Stephen Pollard on the English Defense League

The TOO article on right-wing culturism reminds us once again that race and ethnicity are the true bogeymen of political discourse in the West. Stephen Pollard’s statement is particularly striking: “Mainstream Islam …  is no more of a threat to Western society than the Quakers.”

This is nothing more than a gratuitous wave-of-the-hand gesture aimed at preempting all debate. No need to discuss whether a predominately Muslim England would compromise the interests of native Brits, whether it would lead to a society hopelessly fractured along ethnic and cultural lines, increased social alienation, chronic friction and jockeying for position by the different groups, etc.

According to Pollard, who is the editor of The Jewish Chronicle, England’s leading Jewish publication, anti-Muslim groups like the English Defense League “are racists who would expunge all who do not fit their supposedly native White Anglo-Saxon Protestant definition of English society.”

“Supposedly native”? No one has a problem identifying indigenous peoples in any other culture in the world. No one would talk about the “supposedly native” Koreans or the “supposedly native” Native Americans. What is it about White people that they can’t be indigenous–even in Europe where they have existed for thousands of years? The mindset that questions whether Whites can be indigenous is the same mindset that questions the reality of race and ethnicity as biological realities — while nevertheless behaving as an ethnic activist within his ethnic group.

What animates someone like Pollard is a fear of any expression of White solidarity. The EDL is clearly doing its best to fit into the politically correct zeitgeist. It admits Blacks and it has shown no hostility toward Jews or Hindus. It’s pro-Israel stance is clearly an attempt to ingratiate itself with the powers that be — to no avail. The politically correct posturings of the EDL are not enough for Jewish activists like Pollard. The ideology of Western suicide is that Whites — and no one else, least of all Jews among whom the idea of Israel as a Jewish state is sacrosanct — must give up any attempt to defend themselves or their culture.

Pollard’s article is another example of how the organized Jewish community is attempting to manage White rage at their dispossession. As I noted previously in a comment on the American context, Jewish interests may suffer with the influx of masses of Muslims and other groups who are hostile to Israel or do not have any history of philo-Semitism. Nevertheless, Jews overwhelmingly continue to favor mass immigration because they “may well have a reasonable fear that any movement to restrict immigration is bound to bring White racial consciousness to the fore.”

Similarly, the image of all those White people in the EDL protesting against Islam (even with a sprinkling of Blacks and waving Israeli flags) is troubling for Jews because such White people are not far from adopting an explicitly White racialist viewpoint.  And when they do, they may well see that  historically the organized Jewish community has indeed been a major force acting against White people and their interests.  Based on its historical experience in Europe, what Jews fear most is a culturally and ethnically homogeneous White society with a confident sense of its identity and its interests.

The strategy is to continue to suppress and demonize any expression of  White solidarity and opposition to White dispossession — even by organizations like the EDL who do everthing they can to ingratiate themselves with Jews.

So far it’s working. But the game is far from over.

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27 Comments to "Stephen Pollard on the English Defense League"

  1. John Stonehouse's Gravatar John Stonehouse
    January 2, 2010 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    The irony is that virtually ever anti-semitic assault committed in Britain is perpetrated by a muslim – usually a pakistani or black african.
    In fact the long established orthodox jewish community of Stamford Hill, east London was forced to relocate to white dominated Milton Keynes for his reason.

  2. John Stonehouse's Gravatar John Stonehouse
    January 2, 2010 - 8:48 am | Permalink

    Another irony is that Nick Griffin (the BNP leader), who has years of experience in this matter is fairly convinced that the EDL is a false-flag operation devised by Britiah security forces , set-up to vitiate BNP support.
    It’s provenance is distinctly ‘dodgy’ to say the least.

  3. January 2, 2010 - 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Yes, the game is far from over. In fact it’s only just begun. Watch a pot and it never boils. Walk away for five minutes and “suddenly” it’s boiling. As far as I can tell, the heat is on.

    Ethnopatriots are often fond of defeatism, and the idea that we’ve “tried everything to no avail.” Nope. We’ve only barely begun to try at all. Practically nothing has been tried yet.

  4. January 2, 2010 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    The reaction of someone like Pollard is not surprising, but I was taken aback by his “supposedly native” quip. I wonder, would he make the same remark concerning the Jews in Israel?

    While the White street support for the EDL (and Casuals United) is to be welcomed, I would register some reservations regarding the EDL, which is apparently funded and controlled by a staunchly Zionist organisation called 4Freedoms.

    I think this information is relevant, given both black and Muslim infiltration of the EDL, and Nick Griffin’s suspicions that it a creature of the British domestic security forces.

    For British Nationalists, the trick is to siphon off the White support for EDL into something genuinely effective and hardcore.

  5. Barbara Cornett's Gravatar Barbara Cornett
    January 2, 2010 - 1:16 pm | Permalink

    More and more people are beginning to speak up in defense of White people, in this case, the German people. This University of Portsmouth website explains why you should learn German. This is very touching on behalf of the German people who are still being mulched by Jews to the tune of billions.

    http://userweb.port.ac.uk/~joyce1/abinitio/whygerm1.html

  6. January 2, 2010 - 1:59 pm | Permalink

    With regards to Richard’s comments on the right wing culture/biology divide, I would say that the situation is more complex. He is correct in his assessment of how people generally think. And he is correct that the culture view that is commonly expressed is soft leftism. (By the common culture view, I mean something like the idea that one can replace the indigenous Irish and still have the Irish.) But he is mistaken with the culture/biology dichotomy.

    For myself, I consider ‘culture’ to be a primary factor in group success, but I mean culture in the sense of Kulture. That is, culture, more or less, as particular ways of thinking and behaving which a group has evolved over hundreds of years — ie the anthropological sense. While the Volkish idea is out of vogue, it fits rather well with multilevel selection theory (tying it to genetics) and with many of the findings concerning organization psychology (tying it to group psychology)

    Whites are more than an ancestral population; they are also an ethnos. Insofar as they are the later, their group identity and personality needs to be defended. While highlighting their Ancestral relations may be one way to promote this, focusing on the particular culture bonds is also important.

    As for ‘culturalists,’ the problem is not that they focus on culture, but that they don’t accept that some culture is rather particular. They often argue a soft cultural case to dismiss the antiracist claims, while accepting the liberal frame that these claims are made in. The Liberal frame is: our meta-identity shouldn’t be biased for anyone. The soft culturalist, just say: I agree, but everyone can be apart of our culture. The goal is not to turn them into bioists, but to get them to defend their cultural ways even if it means being rather “illiberal.” The left has already been churning out its propaganda in a preemptive attack (re: against ‘illiberal democracy’). It’s time to start catching up.

  7. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    January 2, 2010 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

    The ‘anti-racism’ of Jews is a symptom of the disease it is supposed to cure. Jews suffer a particularly virulent strain of the condition as becomes obvious when they deny the simple fact – arguments about the Neolithic and why Europeans became white notwithstanding – that the white British are native and the immigrants are not. Zionists denied that Palestinians are in any way indigenous; we can all too easily guess the fate that awaits natives in Europe.

    The real problem for Nationalists is that every Western institution is staffed by people who consider “Britishness” to be about ethical values, ‘race’ refers to a problem whites have accepting these values due to them being deluded, evil or both.

    The EDF ect get lots of publicity but the protests are so weak Muslims have to blow off steam against the police Labour slammed for mosque protest pledge.

    The fertility of Muslims is becoming a bigger source of demographic growth than immigration, it’s a result of their religion (plus British welfare payments). How do the other religions view this? Well the Al-Huda Educational Society of Kilmarnock which now has Ayrshire’s first mosque first started meeting in a local Catholic church, it moved to another Catholic church and them was given permission to use a East Ayrshire Council (Local Government) building.

    Apart from a few activists white Brits are very far down the road of internalising the official ‘values’ ideology.

  8. Pitbullexpress's Gravatar Pitbullexpress
    January 2, 2010 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Someday says:
    January 2, 2010 at 2:03 PM
    The ‘anti-racism’ of Jews is a symptom of the disease it is supposed to cure. Jews suffer a particularly virulent strain of the condition as becomes obvious when they deny the simple fact – arguments about the Neolithic and why Europeans became white notwithstanding – that the white British are native and the immigrants are not. Zionists denied that Palestinians are in any way indigenous; we can all too easily guess the fate that awaits natives in Europe.

    Absolutely. I think the ultimate goal of Jewish Supremacism is to turn the entire world into Palestine, and every non-Jew into a Palestinian.

    Personally, I see something brewing similar to that scene in Braveheart where the Scots and the Irish meet in the middle of the battlefield and join ranks against the English.
    It’s so obvious that the society they control today is hopelessly disfunctional and mal-adaptive because they control it!!!!
    Just as it’s obvious that they only way to conceal this is to cover it in a fine gloss via Hollywood and the MSM, which, surprise, surprise, they own.
    But we are living in a time when tens of millions of people are merging into a kind of Cyber-Toto pulling back the curtain on the Great and Powerful Oz.
    Everything they say now, everything that spews from the mouth of Jewish Supremacism can be translated into the words “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
    Too late.

    Life is good, no?

  9. Pitbullexpress's Gravatar Pitbullexpress
    January 2, 2010 - 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Someday says:
    January 2, 2010 at 2:03 PM
    The ‘anti-racism’ of Jews is a symptom of the disease it is supposed to cure. Jews suffer a particularly virulent strain of the condition as becomes obvious when they deny the simple fact – arguments about the Neolithic and why Europeans became white notwithstanding – that the white British are native and the immigrants are not. Zionists denied that Palestinians are in any way indigenous; we can all too easily guess the fate that awaits natives in Europe.

    Absolutely. I think the ultimate goal of Jewish Supremacism is to turn the entire world into Palestine, and every non-Jew into a Palestinian.

    Personally, I see something brewing similar to that scene in Braveheart where the Scots and the Irish meet in the middle of the battlefield and join ranks against the English.
    It’s so obvious that the society they control today is hopelessly disfunctional and mal-adaptive because they control it!!!!
    Just as it’s obvious that they only way to conceal this is to cover it in a fine gloss via Hollywood and the MSM, which, surprise, surprise, they own.
    But we are living in a time when tens of millions of people are merging into a kind of Cyber-Toto pulling back the curtain on the Great and Powerful Oz.
    Everything they say now, everything that spews from the mouth of Jewish Supremacism can be translated into the words “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
    But it’s too late.

    Life is good.

  10. Pitbullexpress's Gravatar Pitbullexpress
    January 2, 2010 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Sorry for that second posting, but the first time I sent it the screen told me there was an error. So I sent it again.

  11. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    January 2, 2010 - 11:07 pm | Permalink

    The Jews will never be satisfied with less than our total racial dismemberment. And in the meantime satisfied with nothing less than total capitulation to their interests. It is my iron conviction that they experience a genetic compulsion to do just that. Any compassion for them a White man could have when mindful of his own interests is fruitless. That said, their presence permanently amongst us is intolerable. They must be expelled.

  12. Adam's Gravatar Adam
    January 3, 2010 - 12:35 am | Permalink

    Captainchaos says:

    “And yet few here would deny that Jews have attained power in the modern world out of all proportion to their numbers,”

    You haven’t addressed my criticism of Jews, only attempted to ‘balance the ledger’. Which tells me that you have no counter to the specific criticisms of Jews I made.

    You’re certainly right, Admiral. I did not address your childish, insubstantial attacks. I thought to spare you the embarrassment.

    “…in most accounts due at least in part to their ability to network and their comparatively high average IQ.”

    I’m glad you qualified your account of their power getting with “at least in part,” that was prudent. For there is far more to say as to how it was done, but it does not speak well of the Jewish people. No lie there, but the whole of the truth self servingly omitted.

    By all means, Admiral, feel free to fill us in about “the whole truth”. Yawn.

    “How can we account for those genetically-based traits without having recourse to hybrid vigor, or something similar?”

    If you would widen the scope of your analysis beyond the crude little toy you’ve found in your “hybrid vigor” you may come to see that it is not needed at all to account for the traits you ascribe to Jews, nor would hybridity of Europeans and Middle Easterners tend towards the production of those traits either. How so? You mention two traits of Jews that you say if the result of hybrid vigor: ability to network and high average group intelligence. The ability to network as a kinship group is best accounted for by genetic similarity, high average collectivism and ethnocentrism. The populations of the Middle East are on average more collectivistic and ethnocentric, so then, if they were to interbreed with Europeans – who are on average less collectivistic and ethnocentric – we can expect the end product to be less collectivistic and ethnocentric than what the Middle Eastern stock was to begin with. Also, the final product would be less genetically similar than the original Middle Eastern group. It appears the original Middle Eastern group’s ability to network would actually be harmed and not helped when taking into consideration those criteria.

    Which should have told you right there your assumptions were wrong. But anyway, continue…

    As for higher average group intelligence, Middle Eastern populations have on average lower group intelligences than do Europeans, so we can expect the product of mixing to be of an intermediate level of average group intelligence. Perhaps a win for the original Middle Eastern group, but decidedly not for Europeans. And, if the newly formed group could be expected to have a lower level of intelligence than the original European group, then we can say that hybridity did not account in whole for the higher average group intelligence of Jews as above Europeans. So what accounts for the higher average group intelligence of Jews? MacDonald contends, and I agree, that it is due to a eugenic breeding strategy intra-group (that is it did not involve in the main nor depend upon hybridity!).

    The clear implication: Europeans would be better served in increasing their ability to network and average group intelligence via endogamy and eugenics, not hybridity!

    This whole line of argument is a little surprising coming from an anti-semite of the hysterical kind like the Admiral here. After all, don’t such anti-semites usually like to rant about Jewish “gene stealing”? Here’s Holocaust Museum shooter James von Brunn in his book Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog:

    “Survival of the JEW nation depends upon maintaining its status as GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE. The TALMUD, therefore, makes it a crime for JEWS to marry non-JEWS. But not always. Male JEWS, seeking to invigorate sickly tribal genes may receive rabbinical dispensation to mate with trophy Gentile women. The mongrel offspring (bastards) of those mixed marriages are considered non-JEWS; however, sons of those marriages can redeem the JEW lineage by marrying JEWESSES, whose issue is always considered JEWISH.

    Selah, the TRIBE captures healthy Gentile genes! In a patriarchal society, as the JEWS’, the above described dispensation indicates a biological necessity. It was common practice for wealthy JEWS, following the wars, to search the ruins of Europe for starving Aryan widows and orphans to take back to the States.”
    –James von Brunn, TSGH, p. 16

    KM attributes essentially the same theory in SAID to Ruppin:

    27. In Jews in the Modern World, Ruppin (1934) asserts that Jews are not a racially pure group, because of widespread intermarriage and illicit sexual relationships in the diaspora. Nevertheless, he describes three “racial types” of Jews, one (the Oriental Jews) genetically identical to the ancient Jews, and two others (Sephardic and Ashkenazic) resulting from an influx of gentile genes in the diaspora. Although these racial types are not racially pure, because they originated as a result of cross-breeding, they represent racial types because they have been genetically isolated for centuries in particular areas. Ruppin therefore conceptualizes the Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jewish populations as originating from a high level of crossbreeding followed by prolonged periods of genetic isolation, with the result that contemporary Jewish populations have a high degree of genetic homogeneity and phenotypic resemblance.
    –KM, Separation and Its Discontents, p. 209

    Also, it appears he endorses the theory of Jewish gene stealing from Gentiles himself:

    “Kevin MacDonald confirms that the Jews have been long-standing and committed practitioners of racial purity through eugenics, and that they have practiced discrimination against poorer and less fit Jews “as a function of genetic distance,” particularly in times of economic and demographic crisis. Intriguingly, he also suggests that Jewish eugenic practices have extended to Jews “stealing” selected genes from Gentiles. These genes are then submerged into the Jewish gene pool, so strengthening the Jewish genetic stock.”

    See http://www.ferris.edu/isar/bios/Macdonald/macdalliance.htm for more.

    But however all of that may be, it’s important to note that hybrid vigor and the Jewish eugenics program as envisioned by KM aren’t mutually exclusive. Even if KM’s hypothesis is correct, hybrid vigor in the case of foundational Ashkenazi populations isn’t disproved.

    The processes of meiosis are random, and don’t necessarily lead to the averaging of racial characteristics. Though on average the result of breeding a highly intelligent race with a less intelligent one will be offspring of intermediate intelligence, in a small sample it won’t necessarily be so. It’s quite conceivable that the Jewish merchants in Europe who bred with local women produced offspring that had genes for both high intelligence from their mothers and high collectivism from their fathers, especially since there were only a few of them. The hypothesis would be that the Jews may have then returned to endogamy, but these valuable traits persisted.

  13. Dmitri's Gravatar Dmitri
    January 3, 2010 - 1:28 am | Permalink

    There’s a long tradition of this kind of stupidity in Great Britain. The original “Oi!” skinheads had similar views. They were raging GB patriotards who liked to listen to reggae, especially that boring mulatto pothead Bob Marley, and search for communists and “fascists” to beat up.

  14. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    January 3, 2010 - 1:30 am | Permalink

    Adam, I’m afraid you haven’t dented my analysis one scintilla’s worth. And if you can’t see that now I won’t bother explaining it to you further. That you accuse me of petty insults whilst dishing out your own needs no comment. All I can do is to urge you to be a credit to your people, which shouldn’t be that hard as the bar is not set that high, given that I acknowledge you may already have exceeded it.

  15. Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
    January 3, 2010 - 5:17 am | Permalink

    What I don’t understand is why some people prefer to call themselves “white nationalists” in the 21st century (unless, of course, they succeed in creating a homogeneous ethnostate somewhere, which is rather unlikely).

  16. January 3, 2010 - 6:55 am | Permalink

    “What I don’t understand is why some people prefer to call themselves “white nationalists” in the 21st century”

    Probably because they are rather uninventive; what most mean is:
    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nation

  17. freddie_turnill's Gravatar freddie_turnill
    January 3, 2010 - 9:30 am | Permalink

    Although Pollard has been around the block quite some time (he written, inter alia, a David Blunkett bio) he 1st came to my attention through the article below where he ranted about Lord Ahmed, a respectable “Establishment” Muslim if ever there was one giving the anti-Zionist commentator Israel Shamir a platform for launching his book with the House of Lords as his venue back in 2005.

    We know how much types like Pollard attach to “status giving credibility”, being obsessed with it so much themselves, so the vitriol spit out is no surprise.

    Not sure though how this squares with his subsequent claim quoted by KMac that in the EDL article “Stephen Pollard’s statement is particularly striking: “Mainstream Islam … is no more of a threat to Western society than the Quakers”

    It seems that “Mainstream Islam” had better stay within the bounds set by Mr S. Powell (no known relation in all senses of a Mr E Powell) or else, which is, of course, par 4 the course, the usual Zionista Way ..

    A methodology of methodical combinations of physical, economic, social and psychological “erasure” of opponents is constantly practised.
    It is THE definitive, decisive and their one and only MO of argument settling, all accomplished without ever actually ever “arguing” with you.
    Your substantive argument will remain pristine and untouched whilst your personal history will be sprayed with pig dung and your economic prospects eclipsed. Poor old Mr Death, Fred Leuchter having one particular grisly encounter with this MO witnessing his own “Death” of reputation and livelihood by associating with Ernst Zundal, another victim.And then there is the very real threat of heavy physical violence being visited upon you by their hardcore bootboys of the ANAL.

    It seems strange that anyone familiar with Israel Shamir through his newsletters that all Zionistas keep repeating the same refrain, a bit like
    the treatment given to the “Protocols”, that he is not who he says he is but is a Swede called Jöran Jermas and ipso facto, a fake Israel Jew.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article378140.ece

    April 7, 2005
    Lord Ahmed’s unwelcome guest
    The Labour peer must admit his error in inviting an extreme anti-Semite to air his views
    Stephen Pollard

    “On February 23, Lord Ahmed hosted a book launch in the House of Lords for a man going by the name of Israel Shamir. “Israel Shamir” is, in fact, a Swedish-domiciled anti-Semite also known as Jöran Jermas.

    The gist of Shamir/Jermas’s speech at the meeting can be gleaned from its title, “Jews and the Empire”.
    It included observations such as: “All the [political] parties are Zionist-infiltrated.” “Your newspapers belong to Zionists . . . Jews indeed own, control and edit a big share of mass media, this mainstay of Imperial thinking.” “In the Middle East we have just one reason for wars, terror and trouble — and that is Jewish supremacy drive . . . in Iraq, the US and its British dependency continue the same old fight for ensuring Jewish supremacy in the Middle East.” “The Jews like an Empire . . . This love of Empire explains the easiness Jews change their allegiance . . . Simple minds call it ‘treacherous behaviour’, but it is actually love of Empire per se.” “Now, there is a large and thriving Muslim community in England . . . they are now on the side of freedom, against the Empire, and they are not afraid of enforcers of Judaic values, Jewish or Gentile. This community is very important in order to turn the tide.”

    Why would Lord Ahmed have hosted such a man in the Lords? It is, of course, possible that Lord Ahmed had no idea that Shamir/Jermas was a rabid anti-Semite. Yet it takes only a quick Google to discover his views and background.
    He has worked for Zavtra, Russia’s most anti-Semitic publication, and is allied with the Vanguard News Network, set up by an American, Alex Linder — a man so extreme that he was even ostracised by the US neo-Nazi National Alliance.” (Not sure what Allied means here)

  18. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    January 3, 2010 - 10:44 am | Permalink

    Stephen Pollard is mainly worried about Muslims because they are already aware of themselves as a positively evaluated ingroup, unlike whites . Britain’s Respect Party:
    The Leftist-Islamist Alliance and Its Attitude toward Israel
    . The Respect party has an MP.

    Pollard was really articulating Jewish concerns about Islamist influence in the Muslim community, the the EDL are basically saying the same thing so he has tried to disassociate the Jewish complaints from the EDL’s.

    The tactics of the EDF must be thought very very unlikely to increase racial consciousness among whites if Jewish spokesmen like Pollard are willing to risk giving credibility to the EDL’s campaign by saying similar things in the mass media.

  19. Jason Bates's Gravatar Jason Bates
    January 3, 2010 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

    John Stonehouse, keep in mind the Jews have “worked” with the Muslims in the past when it hurts whites, think of what happened in Spain etc. centuries back – who opened the gates? Besides, the Jews wanting to flood white nations with Muslims shows who they actually hate more, the people they truly consider their enemy, and we can point to this while trying to awaken the sleepwalkers. I still believe a lot of the Jewish hate towards whites stems from a form of cultural jealousy, jealousy of achievements and so on, but that’s for another topic / thread.

  20. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    January 3, 2010 - 2:13 pm | Permalink

    What the appearance of likely false flag fronts like EDL signifies, is that they are created (or harnessed, if spontaneous loose cannons) in order to de-rail legitimate WN groups. As Whites become ever more dispossessed and threatened, the ruling inner parties will create and fund decoy groups in order to marginalize legitimate ones. The ruling oligarchy seeks to kill or co-opt any real WN growth in its incipiency. This is called ‘preemption’, or the Pogrom Protection Plan. They can’t let the organized will of the people gain any real momentum.

    Thus, in order to evaluate the racial sincerity and integrity of these questionable groups, first look at who really benefits (cui bono?) by their actions, and secondly, whether they are really, or even potentially effective. Are they real racial/ethnic patriots, or clueless jingoistic patriotards? Next, in order to ascertain whether they are the real White McCoy, or just phony poseurs of inviting ‘honey pots’, seek to find what visibly means of support the individuals, or ring leaders have. People ‘working full time’ at ’causes’ either have to have a real job, be very independently wealthy, or on some one’s payroll. Follow the money, its the key clue.

  21. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    January 4, 2010 - 6:48 am | Permalink

    Wrong as usual.

    I am a Jew, who is racially White.

    If you want to marginalize me, because Pollard doesn’t tow your line. Go ahead. But it strikes me as foolishly stupid. Before you know it, you’ll all cannibalize yourself. First its the Jews, then it will be the non-Nordics ,then it will be the Lefties (who happen to be left-wing, but proudly White), etc. The White nationalists already waste nearly 50% of their time bickering with Jarred Taylor. And believe me, it isn’t Taylor who is being divisive, its the insanity of the low-IQ whites (insult intended)

    I am not saying it is wrong to point out Jews who are on the wrong side of the fence, and to tie that to their Jewish identity – but you’re wrong to push us all away. It is simply logically defunct. You don’t know enough about Jewish identity, to go that far.

  22. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    January 4, 2010 - 6:56 am | Permalink

    Let’s be factual.

    “Organised Jewry” doesnt’ represent all Jews, hence you shouldn’t be marginalizing all Jews from White Nationalism

    There is not a single “Organized Jewry”.

    Especially on the issue of Islam, we are at the forefront of defending Western Civilization! And it begs beliefe you are unaware of this. How can you ignore the massive effort, led by Jews, organized with non-Jews, to fight Islam?!?

    Mr. MacDonald, don’t lose your scholarly credentials, pandering to the public. There are many Jews who respect your work, even if we disagree with it all or in some part. If you go off the deep-end, no respect is possible.

    In as much as we are White, and White is a genetic fact, marginalizing Jews who are on your side, amounts to marginalizing Whites.

    I’d call that suicide.

    You are claiming to defend White interests, but you want to be the one to choose who is the right White, and who is wrong, instead of taking into account the diversity of such interests.

    Which is it then – White is a social construct, or genetic? You preach the former, act the latter.

  23. Justin Time's Gravatar Justin Time
    January 4, 2010 - 7:19 pm | Permalink

    AJ goes overboard. I’ve seen the same Hasbara Playbook tactic used on other sites. The remarks are stated in a fashion that seems as if AJ hopes will encourage and create more backbiting and infighting among whites. All this while the majority of Jews back their “leadership” to the hilt. Whites are going to end up in a situation where they’re forced to see themselves as a distinct group, and they will be forced to make some sacrifices in terms of immediate goals in order to get things squared away and out from under the thumb of the Zionists. No amount of internet posting or MSM propaganda will be able to stop this eventuality.

  24. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    January 5, 2010 - 2:26 am | Permalink

    Let is be stated that the related contentions that “all Jews are [not] anything.” and “it’s the organized Jewish community and Jewish media influence [that are responsible for whatever damage to the West it can be established per evidence they are guilty of]” and “There is not a single ‘Organized Jewry’.” do not necessarily deny the existence of a collective dynamic of Jewry which has a decisive (we contend negative) impact on the West. Which of course has implications for whether or not the Jewish people need be dealt with collectively (and that observation does not, and need not, imply ‘sinister’ implications).

  25. January 10, 2010 - 7:34 am | Permalink

    Great idea, thanks for this tip!

  26. January 11, 2010 - 6:34 am | Permalink

    Hey, ok, I get it, I guess – but does this really work?

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