Kevin MacDonald: I decided to mention current TOO articles in the blog as a general policy, thereby facilitating discussion in this forum. I just posted an article based on a recent English translation of the 1879 edition of Wilhelm Marr’s The Victory of Judaism over Germanism: Viewed from a Nonreligious Point of View. My article attempts to hit the high points of Marr’s presentation, with a bit of commentary thrown in. Marr’s pamphlet is a provocative and prophetic read.
Wilhelm Marr
Facing the Future as a Minority
I received the following in my http://www.ihr.org/ newsletter. I hope it is ok to post it because I think readers would want to know.
Southern California Weekly Attacks Prof. MacDonald
OC Weekly (Orange County, Calif.)
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/school-daze/notorious-jew-bashing-long-bea/index.php
Over the years, Long Beach State psychology professor Kevin MacDonald has danced a delicate tango regarding his professional work and his personal beliefs .. .. The Weekly can reveal that the professor is now partnering with local skinheads and a notorious racist lawyer to create a new political party modeled after England’s fascist British National Party, a new party created explicitly to oppose and deport non-whites.
The American Third Position Party was formally created on Oct. 15 of last year in Orange, where a group of racialists decided Los Angeles-based lawyer William D. Johnson would be its chair. Johnson became nationally reviled last year when he ran as a judge in Los Angeles County, and details emerged about his past.
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Regarding the article
No wonder the Jews are so good at what they do, they’ve had centuries of experience. That pamphlet could have been written today about America and the condition we find ourselves in.
Except I don’t admire the Jews or think they’re superior, I think our CIA has shown any group can do the same things Jews do. Most races wouldn’t wish to live like glorified wondering gypsies as Jews do.
Marr was mistaken when he used the Jewish creation of describing our defense as religious hatred. That is Jewish casting. We should speak of ourselves and Western Civilization as “having a right to exist”. That justifies the building of walls, ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Since all of this history is well known why can we not figure out how to fight back and destroy Jews. There has to be a fatal flaw in their tactics so why haven’t we figured this out? We could start with Historians and question why this history is not well known.
Given all the problems caused by Israel we could simply condition its existence upon whether or not Jews live there but we have to get control of our media and propaganda machines first. If we got control of media and people realized what Jews are up to, in the age of the internet and satellite tv there would be no safe place on Earth for Jews.
Maybe God will send a fatal Jew Flu if we get lucky. Jews slaughter all the intellectuals of their enemies so no one is left who can rebuild their nation or save their people. We should do that with jews and start with the Rothschilds.
The discussion is worth reading at the site:
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/school-daze/notorious-jew-bashing-long-bea/index.php
Also, the notorious Heidi Beirich chimed in with a comment full of inaccuracies or fabrications (e.g., I did not appoint Johnson and never discussed Blacks in my interview with Kapner:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/01/05/dropping-academic-veneer-prof-starts-his-own-hate-group/
THis is my interview with Kapner:
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=468
And finally, this is an article about it in the Long Beach Press-Telegram:
http://www.presstelegram.com/search/ci_14127622?IADID=Search-www.presstelegram.com-www.presstelegram.com
Here is a weapon we could use against them and cause them misery. They have a state now. We could muck with Israel the way they have always mucked with us.
Where Do Jews Come From?
Evan R. Goldstein — The Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703746604574464023091024180.html
.. .. Enter Shlomo Sand. In a new book, “The Invention of the Jewish People,” the Tel Aviv University professor of history argues that large numbers of Khazar Jews migrated westward into Ukraine, Poland and Lithuania, where they played a decisive role in the establishment of Eastern European Jewry. The implications are far-reaching: If the bulk of Eastern European Jews are the descendents of Khazars – not the ancient Israelites – then most Jews have no ancestral links to Palestine. Put differently: If most Jews are not Semites, then what justification is there for a Jewish state in the Middle East?
Ms. Cornett,
I do not see how your endorsement of mass-murder helps anyone except the ADL and the SPLC.
Dr. MacDonald makes a small, but, very important point:
…Marr seems unaware that the Jewish Diaspora predated the failed Jewish rebellions of the 1st and 2nd centuries].
I find it interesting that there were 12 or 13 Jewish temples in the City of Rome around the time of Christ. I’ve seen published claims that as many as 55 Jewish temples existed in the City of Rome in the First Century AD. Which I doubt. But, then we do know that the Jewish Temple Cult was spread all around the Roman world by at least the Second Century BC.
Have fun with your A3P, and take full advantage of the whole California scene, including celebrity gossip, movie stars, surf, the redwoods and whatever else works. LOL.
The vicious racist attacks upon Professor MacDonald reveal that if those who write this hate speech wish to see a racist they can look in the mirror. Accusations of racism against Whites is the tactic they always use to silence White opposition and I’m thankful for those Whites who refuse to be silenced.
The discussions over Professor MacDonald are bringing out White people who are willing to defend our interests and that is a good thing. It would be extraordinary if well known and powerful White elites came to the defense of MacDonald and White people stood together. That is the day we can hope for.
This is the first I’ve heard of the A3P and I’m very happy to know about it! Notice how they wish to spin the A3P by associating it with Skinheads.
They’ve already laid the groundwork, say White Supremacist, KKK, Skinhead or Nazi and like Pavlov’s dogs people are conditioned to respond in a negative way but I expect the A3P is ready for this.
Don’t worry David F. We’ll start with the people at the ADL and $PLC so there won’t be any of their ilk around to complain about what we do.
David F – typical Hasbara Playbook tactic. No mention of mass murder anywhere except in his own post. I guess there really isn’t much creativity on “the other side”.
Thanks for posting this Prof. MacDonald. It is a provocative read. Indeed Marr seems distressingly anti-German in his eagerness to praise the Jews, and his defeatist tone is shocking. Of course he did not live long enough to eat his own words.
Barbara,
According to the latest DNA studies, Jews have mainly Middle-Eastern DNA, with perhaps a small smattering of Khazar genes, and perhaps 1/3 European genes.
I understand your comments about Jews, its frustrating to have an alien elite subverting our culture. But this kind of comment is really unhelpful. In fact, its actually very harmful for our cause. We are trying to build ethnic awareness among Europeans. Comments such as suggesting that Jews be slaughtered are the typical behavior of trolls, who put up controversial comments that make the Occidental Observer out to be a Neo-Nazi organization, something it is not. We dont need anyone to be harmed, we just need pro-European American policies.
From the article:
Wilhelm Marr (1819–1904) has gone down in history as the first racial anti-Semite.
I don’t know about that. Certainly Voltaire, whom Marr wrongly says “treated Judaism as a spiritual matter of small import”, could qualify as a predecessor.
One can also find contemptuous references to the Jewish race in classical times. For example, Cicero, in Pro Flacco, says:
Interestingly, neither the Latin text nor the English text for this passage are visible when one tries to scroll through these files on Perseus. It should appear between section 66 and 67. Someone seems to have hidden it! The only way to see it is to download the entire texts. The impudent haters and their subalterns are even censoring Cicero. Don’t these camel-faced freaks have ANY shame?
First of all, Kevin’s work is always enlightening, as is Marr’s essay that has been translated and made available above. Shameless is hardly the word, Adam. Thanks for the information on Voltaire and Cicero, their commentary is revealing. Another important work in this regard is Alexander Jacob’s book: EUGEN DÜHRING ON THE JEWS. This work is really a translation of Dühring’s famous study called DIE JUDENFRAGE (The Jewish Question) 1881, with a very useful background history. Dühring was a contemporary of Marr who lived from 1833 to 1921. He was also a contemporary of Adolf Stöcker, 1835-1909, another “anti-Semite” of the period, as well as Theodor Fritsch, proprietor of the Hammer Verlag, and author of the HANDBUCH DER JUDENFRAGE (Handbook of the Jewish Question). It’s amazing what these early ‘Judenkenner’ knew and wrote. Could this knowledge be known collectively as Die Weisheit der Alten, or the wisdom of the ‘elders’?
If I has just come across information about the Third Party, and went over to the KM’s site for the first time to find out more and then read the article on Marr I would think how poorly timed the article was since it leaves the reader feeling so overwhelmed, hopeless and depressed.
I realize that one way to look at it is to get people to look at themselves, but tha article backfires in that regard by being so incredibly downbeat and pessimisstic. It’s unlikely it will succeed in getting any newcomer to engage in self-reflection. If anything it will deflate their spirits and depress the s**t out of them.
Whether anyone else will comment to that effect is another story, but I doubt if I am alone in feeling this way. You have the pleasant surprise regarding the Third Party and the hopefulness of at least getting the word out to more people that comes with it, followed by the gloomy aura that oozes from this depressing article and hangs over the readers head like a heavy fog.
Go Team! Fight Team! Yeaaaah Team!
It just struck me as one of those cases where, truths aside, maybe after so much diagnosis, we need a little enthusiasm if we are going to begin to take action.
Yes, there are some truths in the article. Yes, they do need to be faced. But now that they are going to begin to organize maybe we should begin to highlight our attributes. We have some, don’t we?
Marr’s at times fulsome praise of the Jews reeks of the “altruistic punishment” KM talks about as characteristic of whites. But it’s good to see him raising the issue of the Jews’ control of money as the means by which they have penetrated German society and (at least so far) triumphed. The real reason the Jews flourished and always prove so difficult to get rid of is that they facilitate the expansion of the global technological system, which is something that nearly everyone favors. Through their mastery of the technique of money, this tribe of internationally-distributed parasites are able to invade a state and, using the lure of prosperity, bring it into the world’s financial network. They then act collectively as a kind of catalyst, a dissolving agent that aids in breaking down the bonds of race, religion, and culture that tie their host people together, so that the land they’ve invaded can then be integrated with their other financially subjugated lands. The whole thus formed is then stronger than either land individually.
In my view, this talent for finance is actually the source of the Jewish “realism” that Marr and others are talking about, and the complete origin of their strength. Their mastery of this technique, together with their genetically and culturally conditioned racial cohesion, which allows them to leverage their wealth, makes them a formidable opponent for any nation, race, or culture they invade. That’s why they win, not because they are any more energetic, tougher, or have a better grasp of reality. They mastered financial technique and techniques of racial cohesion early, as part of their religious superstition. Through usury, the Bible prophesizes that all the wealth of the world will eventually be concentrated in Jewish hands.
Generally, the Jewish strong point isn’t interfacing with an objective reality. Their greatest skill is social and lies in manipulating and exploiting their host people. For example, I would suggest that whites were the first to develop the scientific method because of a genetically-based “reality orientation” found in the most intelligent of them, as opposed to the Jewish intellectual orientation towards religious fantasy and mythology, which lends itself to social applications. The one is externally focused, evolved under the harsh environmental conditions of neolithic Europe; the other internally focused and narcissistic, evolved in the segmentary societies of the Middle East. Both are survival strategies and have a certain value. The latter skill in manipulating people confers survival advantages in preying socially upon other groups, while the former leads to survival advantages where one must contend primarily with nature.
The people love the benefits that material technique brings them, even so much that they are willing to turn their state and its cultural apparatus entirely over to the Jews.
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Marr even equates the Jew directly with money.
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This observation about the dynamic unity between Jews and money, and how it led them naturally into the control of culture and other lands, was already a part of the intellectual ferment by 1879, however. Compare remarks by Bakunin and Marx.
Barbara said: “Notice how they wish to spin the A3P by associating it with Skinheads. ”
Yes. The blogger, Gustavo, compares A3P to the British National Party which, he claims, is “reviled” by everyone in the UK except for “skins” as he calls them.
I pointed out to him that in the last European election, the BNP actually got one million votes, representing 1.7%+ of the UK population, and that all those people can’t possible be skinheads.
He won’t correct himself, I’m sure. All of his argumentation is pure hyperbole.
Most comments here refer (more or less) to the guilt-by-association game – the only game in town for the last 60 years or so. Decode that game, and open the discourse
Has anyone thought about starting a branch of the A3P in your state? If anyone has comments, suggestions or information, I would appreciate it.
Check this out! An exchange on C-Span of all places, others are speaking out against Jews! YES!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135427
To Eileen – Gustavo has written an article that is lowbrow and full of hate and he ignores the rights of White Americans to oppose ideas and political parties.
The article reminds me of how black kids will label a good black student as acting White. Gustavo ridicules Professor MacDonald who spent years and years of hard work upon which he bases his opinions. Yet we’re supposed to be convinced by Gustavo’s arguments!
OT: racist eugenics going on in Israel?
Israel’s treatment of Ethiopians ‘racist’
Jonathan Cook, Foreign Correspondent
Last Updated: January 05. 2010 11:43PM UAE / January 5. 2010 7:43PM GMT
NAZARETH, Israel // Health officials in Israel are subjecting many female Ethiopian immigrants to a controversial long-term birth control drug in what Israeli women’s groups allege is a racist policy to reduce the number of black babies….
Maybe Marr was right and there is no method available to nationalists that will actually work to convince whites.
Yet another amazing document of “The Struggle.” I for one appreciate Marr’s clear headed analysis. Even if he misses on a few points of fact (i.e. the origins of the diaspora), his pamphlet is a authoratative summery of the situation of Europe and turns out to be incredibly prescient.
Someday says:
Maybe Marr was right and there is no method available to nationalists that will actually work to convince whites.
It’s worthwhile to recall that Nietzsche, in The Antichrist, said that the Jewish race displays “…the toughest national will to life which has ever existed on earth.” Also:
So much for Jewish “realism”.
I will believe the project to “convince” whites to continue to exist as a race is worthwhile when someone can show me that the Jews ever needed to be convinced.
By 1848, according to Wilhelm Marr, Judaism had entirely ceased being a religion at all. This week, in the Occidental Observer, C.Dodgson mentioned a similar idea: “the hollowing out of Jewish identity, by which Judaism is being replaced by tribulations and ethnic enemies”.
I wonder if Wilhelm Marr was right, or if some people can still be found today who “believe in Judaism”.
I will believe the project to “convince” whites to continue to exist as a race is worthwhile when someone can show me that the Jews ever needed to be convinced.
They sprang from the eye of Zeus then, fully formed and ethnocentric? They had to start somewhere.
Every ethnopatriot today not born an ethnopatriot (100% of them) is living proof that the project is worthwhile).
Jews have spent the last 3k years shedding those who weren’t convinced. That’s why, despite being the most ethnocentric people in history, there’s fewer than 20 million of them.
Svigor says:
They sprang from the eye of Zeus then, fully formed and ethnocentric? They had to start somewhere.
No doubt they started small, as did all of the inbred tribes of the Middle East. But the Jews’ genetically-based ethnocentrism was fostered by the precepts of their religion, some of which I quoted in my remarks below. Whether it was divine guidance, blinding insight, or just happenstance that they hit upon two very powerful techniques, usury and ethnocentrism, to comprise the core of their religion, I suppose we will never know.
Every ethnopatriot today not born an ethnopatriot (100% of them) is living proof that the project is worthwhile).
The project of trying to form a mass movement among whites by “convincing” them that they have a right to exist may be worthwhile for other reasons, even if it fails. The few may save the many.
But I will never believe that racial groups are so constructed that you can “convince” them to exist if they don’t already want to. It just doesn’t work that way.
Jews have spent the last 3k years shedding those who weren’t convinced. That’s why, despite being the most ethnocentric people in history, there’s fewer than 20 million of them.
There’s a lot of reasons to think that the ethnocentrism of the Jews wasn’t arrived at by “convincing” them of anything. In 3,000 years of eugenic practice they have encoded the technique at the genetic level.
“So long as Judaism flourishes among Jews there is no need to talk of safeguarding race or nationality; both are automatically preserved by the religion.”
-Israel Zangwill, quoted in Israel Zangwill, by Joseph Leftowich, 1957.
To believe there is less than 20 million Jews in the world is sheer idiocy. There are probably 20 million Jews in the US, although they themselves will tell you there are half as many. Take numbers supplied by Jews with the proverbial grain of salt. There are probably 50 – 60 million Jews in the world. Not a lot in terms of the world’s population. But what is the population of GB? Germany? France? The Jews are spread out. That’s how they get away with their ridiculous claims.
TOL, I agree with your belief that Jewish population numbers are played down. In the early 20th century, Jewish leaders told their people to hide their background during the census so that the public would not know how many of them there were in the US. I’ve had several Jews tell me that there’s lots more of them than people think, telling me that there’s “3 times as many” and things like that. Keeping their numbers secret or down to avoid anti-semitism is what they said.
I don’t get it, you guys took off my comment?
First Amendment fundamentalists I see?
Lustig, ich hätte garnicht gedacht das das *wirklich* so funktioniert. Komische Welt.
Irgend ne Ahnung wie sehr das verallgemeinerbar ist?
Ich denke das ist eh nur ne Modeerscheinung.
Krass! Hätte ich garnicht gedacht…