The Dissolution of the Family among Non-Elite Whites

Kevin MacDonald

I heard Naomi Cahn and June Carbone talk about their book, Red Families v. Blue Families: Legal Polarization and the Creation of Culture (Oxford, 2010), on Commie Radio Pacifica, so you can be sure there is a “progressive” message. As summarized in their op-ed in the Christian Science Monitor, the idea is that families in Blue State America are thriving, while families in Red State America are failing because they are too hung up on old fashioned ideas like sexual abstinence.

There is an obvious dishonesty in this approach because it completely ignores race in the analysis in an effort to pin the blame on traditional sexual beliefs and customs. Blacks and Latinos who live in urban areas and in very Blue States exhibit high rates of teenage pregnancy, non-marriage, and dropping out of the education process — much higher than Whites in Red State America.

So what they are really trying to explain is variation in family patterns among White people. And there they have a point. Red State White America is in a crisis. (Indeed, it’s no accident that Red State America is where most of the much-commented-on White anger is coming from.) The data they are summarizing really relate to some of the correlates of education which are in turn linked to IQ. But we have known at least since The Bell Curve that higher IQ people not only are more likely to go further in the  educational system, they are more likely to have stable marriages, they don’t have babies outside of marriage, and they begin child bearing later. These people are more likely to live in large urban and suburban areas where there are jobs for educated people.

The Whites in non-urban Red State America have a lot to be angry about. The present economic crisis is just the most recent disaster in the long pattern of dispossession of Whites who are less educated. Good jobs in the private sector have pretty much evaporated — the unions are gone and the jobs have been shipped overseas. These people see their communities invaded by racial and cultural aliens, many of them illegal, making a middle class life impossible. They see themselves losing political power to the coalition of minorities and elite Whites that has become the Democratic Party.

As The Bell Curve emphasized, since World War II the cognitive elite are pulling away from the rest of America. Hard economic times only make it worse.

And hard times are always difficult on families. As Cahn and Carbone note, “the latest studies show that as the economy has gone south, teen and nonmarital births and abortions have all increased. … Employment figures also demonstrate that male employment has fallen even further than female employment, making youthful weddings that much riskier.”

In evolutionary terms, the high-investment style of reproduction becomes non-viable as men are unable to provide for their families. Women start having babies sooner and don’t expect to receive support from males over a long period of time, especially where welfare programs are available.

Being on the left, however, C & C use this opportunity to propose that the real culprit is traditional family values. If we could just get rid of those Bible Belt ideas, all would be well:

Missing from this debate is recognition of the bankruptcy of traditionalist family values as policy for the postindustrial era. …

In the United States, states that emphasize abstinence-only education, limit public subsidies of contraception, restrict access to abortion – and, yes, oppose gay marriage – have higher teen birth and divorce rates.

Yet the failure of the family values movement simply produces another round of moral panic and calls for more draconian restrictions.

Their solution combines typical leftist utopianism with a very real program of lowering the birth rate of people with traditional values.

The solution? As we outline in great detail in our book “Red Families v. Blue Families,” there are three critical steps we can take: (1) promote access to contraception – within marriage as well as outside it; (2) develop a greater ability to combine not only work and family, but family and education; and (3) make sure the next generation stays in school, learns the skills to be employed, and cultivates values that can adapt to the future.

This is a nice distillation of the bizarre idea that all Americans have the potential to be college graduates with lots of skills suitable for a post-industrial economy. IQ never enters the equation. But this utopian future is just not going to happen. A far better program would be to provide better economic opportunities for White people, especially White males, whose prospects have been blunted by the present regime.

The fact is that traditional sexual attitudes worked perfectly well in the West to produce a very adaptive culture of high-investment parenting combined with individualist social institutions. C & C attempt to tar traditional values with the stigma of Muslim and African societies where female virtue is prized: “We are entirely sympathetic with those inclined to lock up their daughters from puberty until marriage, but we do recognize that the societies abroad most insistent on policing women’s virtue are locked into cycles of poverty.”

But there is no reason to suppose that the problem with Muslim and African societies is policing the sexual behavior of women. Other traits of these cultures are far more likely culprits,  including low average IQ and social institutions like cousin marriage and clan-based social and political systems.

The reality is that social support for high-investment parenting has always been a critical feature of Western social structure until the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Since then, all of the markers of family stability have headed south  — including divorce rates and births out of wedlock for all races and ethnic groups. (Nevertheless, there are very large differences between races and ethnic groups in conformity with Rushton’s lifespan theory of race differences.)

But this relative lack of social support for marriage has had very different effects depending on traits like IQ. For example, a well-known study in behavior genetics shows that the heritability of age of first sexual intercourse increased dramatically after the sexual revolution of the 1960s. In other words, after the social supports for traditional sexuality disappeared, genetic influences became more important. Before the sexual revolution, traditional sexual mores applied to everyone. After the revolution, genes mattered more. People with higher IQ were able to produce stable families and marriages, but lower IQ people were less prone to doing so, and these trends have been exacerbated by the current economic climate. Hence the Red State/Blue State dichotomy among White people observed by C & C.

And this brings me to thinking about Jews and particularly Jewish influence on sexual culture. In their book, C & C note that Jews tend to exhibit  the Blue State pattern— an unsurprising result given Jewish IQ patterns. A theme of Chapter 4 of The Culture of Critique is that the psychoanalytic assault on traditional Western sexual culture had a disparate impact on different IQ groups and benefited Jews:

Jews suffer to a lesser extent than [non-Jews] from the erosion of cultural supports for high-investment parenting, and Jews benefit by the decline in religious belief among [non-Jws]. As [Norman] Podhoretz (1995, 30) notes, it is in fact the case that Jewish intellectuals, Jewish organizations like the AJCongress, and Jewish-dominated organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union … have ridiculed Christian religious beliefs, attempted to undermine the public strength of Christianity, and have led the fight for unrestricted pornography. The evidence of this chapter indicates that psychoanalysis as a Jewish-dominated intellectual movement is a central component of this war on [non-Jewish] cultural supports for high-investment parenting. …

Although other factors are undoubtedly involved, it is remarkable that the increasing trend toward low-investment parenting in the United States largely coincides with the triumph of the psychoanalytic and radical critiques of American culture represented by the political and cultural success of the counter-cultural movement of the 1960s.

I then go into the academic version of the ideas presented here, especially the greater importance of social controls and traditional religious beliefs for people on the left side of the Bell Curve. (See here, in the  Conclusion).

There is nothing wrong with traditional Western sexual codes. C & C are trying to rationalize the destruction of the last vestiges of that culture by noting that people with traditional religious ideas on sexuality increasingly behave in ways that are contrary to those beliefs. But the problem is not the traditional culture. Rather it is the economic dispossession of non-elite Whites combined with a media culture that glorifies expressive individualism and uninhibited sexuality (i.e., drugs, sex, and Rock ‘n’ Roll) — a media culture that, in my view, was critically shaped by the Jewish intellectual movements reviewed in The  Culture of Critique.

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37 Comments to "The Dissolution of the Family among Non-Elite Whites"

  1. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    April 25, 2010 - 1:51 pm | Permalink

    There can’t be selection for women unless some women are not reproducing.

    I think you are really talking about a few upper class males taking their pick of women, that may exist but is hardly representative of any society.

    If ‘Patriarchal Polygamy’ was practiced throughout a society the effect would be to skew the entire population towards the characteristics of the reproducing men. So the women would get more intelligent over generations; not better looking

  2. April 25, 2010 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I was talking about Patriarchal Polygamy.

    You can only have Patriarchal Polygamy in a society where Men produce more wealth than Women, and are therefore not economically dependant on the. In other words, there has no such thing as Patriarchal Polygamy in Africa.

    Ancient Greece had Patriarchal Polygamy and produced both profoundly intelligent Men and beautiful Women.

    The Chinese have had Patriarchal Polygamy for thousands of years and their race produces both profoundly intelligent Men and beautiful Women.

    And once you adjust for the climate much less strongly selecting for intelligence and light skin/small noses, Middle Eastern Caucasian races have produced many highly intelligent Men and beautiful Women.

  3. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    April 25, 2010 - 12:34 pm | Permalink
  4. April 25, 2010 - 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “For every man with two wives another will have no wife, the important point is that the women are all going to have husbands so there will be no sexual selection for women being attractive.”

    Perhaps if you take the narrow view that sexual selection operates only in the first generation.

    But sexual selection actually operates across multiple generations.

    And under Polygamy a Woman’s beauty will, on average, win her MORE grandchildren than under Monogamy.

    This is because a beautiful Woman will be more likely to win her marriage to a socially dominant Polygamist, and thus her sons will be far more likely to become successful Polygamists themselves. This is because they’ll inherit the traits that made their father a great reproductive success.

    “You’re right that the superior mens’ sons will inherit dad’s characteristics – but so will their daughters.”

    And the superior men’s daughters will also inherit the characteristics of the superior men’s wives.

    The superior men’s wives will be more beautiful than the average woman.

    Guess who Helen of Troy’s father was? It was the Superior and Socially Dominant Man Tyndareus, the King of the Spartans.

    And guess who Helen of Troy’s maternal grandfather was? It was the Superior and Socially Dominant Man Thestius, the King of the Aetolia.

    The Ancient Greeks certainly didn’t associate a lack of beauty with a Woman having a Superior Man for her father.

    Was this the face that launch’d a thousand ships
    And burnt the topless towers of Ilium?
    Sweet Helen, make me immortal with a kiss.

    Also it is very notable that Chinese Women are actually more feminine than White Women, which contradicts your theory when you consider that Polygamy has always been accepted by Chinese society, until very recently:

    “Having offspring is very important in Chinese culture. China has practiced polygyny for thousands of years. Polygyny had been legal and was written in the law as recently as the end of the Qing/Ching dynasty of the imperial China (1911).”

  5. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    April 25, 2010 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    For every man with two wives another will have no wife, the important point is that the women are all going to have husbands so there will be no sexual selection for women being attractive. The winners of the competition among men for women will be the ones with many wives, the ‘superior men’.

    You’re right that the superior mens’ sons will inherit dad’s characteristics – but so will their daughters. So with polygyny the phenotype of the whole population is going to be skewed towards the characteristics of the most reproductively successful men. Does that sound like a recipe for beautiful women to you?

  6. April 25, 2010 - 10:54 am | Permalink

    Also you are wrong to think there’s no reproductive advantage for more attractive Women under polygamy.

    More attractive and charming Women are more likely to get married to a vastly Superior Man. And the sons of a vastly Superior Man are more likely to become successful Polygamists themselves.

    For this reason it’s very important for Women to be attractive in Patriarchal Polygamy, which perhaps explains why Ancient Greek and Roman Women were so often beautiful.

  7. April 25, 2010 - 10:49 am | Permalink

    “With polygyny all women are mated…”

    That’s part of why it’s a good way to avoid extinction.

    “If there had been no monogamy in Europe there would have been no white people.”


    Odysseus was as much a White Man as anyone alive today.

    Penelope and Helen were as much White Women as anyone alive today.

    There’s no evidence that any such thing as mandated Monogamy was practiced by the ancestors of the Homeric heros.

    Maybe the Ancient Greek chicks were a little less hot than White chicks are today, but so freaking what?

    Are you that shallow?

  8. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    April 25, 2010 - 7:36 am | Permalink

    With polygyny all women are mated so there is less sexual selection of women. White women are obviously the result of strong sexual selection.

    If there had been no monogamy in Europe there would have been no white people.

  9. April 25, 2010 - 1:31 am | Permalink

    I mean, I think TGD was saying that problem lies in the institution of Marriage’s fundamentally flawed and recently imposed connection with Monogamy.

  10. April 25, 2010 - 1:28 am | Permalink

    “The Jew will continue to run America until we have fewer [well, none of] the Glenn Becks and one, two, many more Ernst Rohms.”

    It’s probably too late.

    In a society where the Left embraces Homosexuality and takes the attitude that it should all be out in public, you never seem to see Homosexuals putting the talents to the good like Rohms and Roy Cohn did.

  11. April 25, 2010 - 1:24 am | Permalink

    “Holy crap, now we have someone questioning the institution of marriage itself.”

    Monogamy is merely a particular type of Marriage. For most of our Race’s History is was in no way mandated that it be the only type of Marriage available to people.

  12. Global Technologist's Gravatar Global Technologist
    April 24, 2010 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Blowtorch, while you are correct, Adam’s real goal is simply to obfuscate and misdirect attention, keep off those who are responsible for most of the mess. Same tactic they use at every other WN site. Their facts and theories are always ambiguous and malleable. And how familiar is that, lol?

  13. Blowtorch Mason's Gravatar Blowtorch Mason
    April 12, 2010 - 9:23 am | Permalink

    Adam-Again, where is the inexorable law of nature that says we must eschew protectionism, or the Earth will spin out of its orbit? Our Elites definitely want us to think of free trade in the same terms as we think of the law of gravity, but then again, they are the same people whose spiritual ancestors brought slavery to the New World in the same search for ever-cheaper labor, leaving the rest of us to solve a racial conundrum that none of our ancestors wanted or benefitted from, and which has thrust enormous, never-ending costs on the rest of society. You don’t hear much from the elites now about the inevitability of slavery, but I bet you heard plenty about it from those spiritual ancestor elites back in the day. Everything that suits the purposes of the elites is just inevitable, and we’re admonished not to worry our pretty little heads about changing things to something that suits our needs and desires better. If we do, why then the Earth will spin out of its orbit, or we’ll sail over the edge of the Earth! To this, I repeat, “hogwash”! You probably mock the religious, but you take more on faith than any cargo cultist. America has enough natural resources to be entirely self-sufficient if we chose to be-the problem, to reiterate, is to get American labor, particularly blacks, to accept a reasonable wage, and to put in an honest day’s work in return for that wage. These people wouldn’t be here in the first place were it not for Elites seeking ever-cheaper labor-they’d put the dead to work if they could find a way to do it. Outsourcing, free trade and illegal immigration is just the latest tactics for their very old enterprise of looting America.

  14. Adam's Gravatar Adam
    April 11, 2010 - 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Blowtorch Mason says:

    Protectionism is not an economic theory bound to fail by operation of some inexorable law of nature, as some posters here seem to think. It worked quite well in America up until the 1950’s, when America manufacture 96% of the goods we consumed.

    The Greek phalanx worked quite well too, until it encountered the Roman short sword. The horse and buggy worked quite well until it encountered the automobile. Just because a technique used to work doesn’t mean that it will continue to work forever.

    At primitive stages of technological development, protectionism can work, but we have now passed that stage. Protectionism is bound to fail in an age in which the bottom line has superseded nation and race in importance, information travels around the world at the speed of light, manufacturing may be mostly or entirely automated, and transportation costs have dropped so low that it is almost irrelevant where in the world a factory is located. None of those things were true in Alexander Hamilton’s time, or even up to the mid-20th century. But they are all true now.

    Being the only nation in the world that practices free trade, as the U. S. does now, is like being the only woman in town that practices free love.

    The US doesn’t practice free trade. See here and here.

  15. Blowtorch Mason's Gravatar Blowtorch Mason
    April 11, 2010 - 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Protectionism is not an economic theory bound to fail by operation of some inexorable law of nature, as some posters here seem to think. It worked quite well in America up until the 1950’s, when America manufacture 96% of the goods we consumed. Our “protectionist” mercantile policy as a nation was set by no less a figure than Alexander Hamilton, our first Secretary of Treasury. He impemented the so-called “American plan” in which our Federal government was financed almost exclusively by tariff revenues. To the extent foreigners traded with us, we got more money for running the federal government. To the extent they refused to trade with us due to the tariff, this fostered the development of American industry. England embraced “free trade” in 1846 with the repeal of the Corn Laws-at that time England’s GNP was 14 times larger than its nearest rival. By the eve of WWl, both America and Germany had overtaken England. Both America and Germany maintained “protectionist” trade policies during this 68 year period. Therefore, cut the hogwash. Being the only nation in the world that practices free trade, as the U. S. does now, is like being the only woman in town that practices free love. Our problem with protectionism in the U. S. today, like all of our problems, comes down to a matter of Race. Somewhere in the middle of the Civil Rights Movement, American Blacks decided they no longer were willing to perspire for a living. Roofing houses, laying bricks, pouring concrete, etc. were too much like picking cotton on Massa’s old plantation, and they wanted none of it. They would either get a cushy govt. job in an air-conditioned office, or turn to a life of crime to support themselves. Being on the left side of the Bell Curve for American society generally, however, mandates that most blacks are suited only for manual labor. This is the major problem we’d face if we returned to protectionism. It is the same problem we face if we totally cut off immigration from Mexico-Blacks won’t do the work. Hire them, and you’ll find out what “passive-aggressive” resistance is all about. As one wag said, “The American economy has been unable to figure out what to do with black men since the invention of the five row cotton picker”.

  16. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    April 11, 2010 - 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald, I second Darren’s suggestion that you appoint one or more moderators.

  17. April 11, 2010 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Debate Policeman Wannabe Needs “Leg” To Stand Upon
    (Apollonian, 11 Apr 10)

    Hey Darren: why don’t u tell us what’s the “right track”?

    If it’s really a “meaningless argument,” then surely we can count on u to tell us all about it, right?

    And what is ur view of “legitimate difference of opinion,” pray tell?–can u give an example of what would be “illegitimate”?

    CONCLUSION: As for me, I fear I do indeed often have a “defective personality” as a sinner, but I still do my best to work and argue for a society free of Jews and their sympathizers which is what u sound to be like, eh? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  18. Darren's Gravatar Darren
    April 11, 2010 - 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald: I highly suggest you start policing the comments section and/or appoint some moderators to do so.

    You are letting (through inaction) trolls and agents provocateur reduce the signal/noise ratio by creating meaningless arguments to get people off track. This differs from people who have actual legitimate differences of opinion that they would like to debate rationally.

    Some of this is driven by our political opposition who understands that this sort of subversion is highly effective at driving people away and impeding our ability to organize, thus they do it, and some of it is simply driven by people with defective personalities who cling to white nationalism for whatever reasons.

    I would hate to see this blog turn into another VNN, but it seems to be headed down that path.

  19. April 11, 2010 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    Jews, Queers: Peas In Proverbial “Pod”
    (Apollonian, 11 Apr 10)

    “Adam,” u devilishly clever little kike, first u tell us we should strive to legitimate, substantial refutation–THEN u try to pass-off on my arguments without following ur own advice–is that typical of ur sort, or what?

    Otherwise, I’d only note “protectionism” is simply a kind of WARFARE, half-baked.

    People of USA must merely understand in straight-forward and CONCRETE terms the blatant CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY which is being perpetrated before our very eyes, beginning w. COUNTERFEIT fraud of US Fed.

    For presently there is no cultural LEADERSHIP which could emphasize the sheer simplicity, and actual CONCRETE nature, of the Fed fraud–again, COUNTERFEITING, which even children could otherwise understand.

    For “Christianity” as popularly understood is so largely mystified and hi-jacked by Jews, and people are otherwise lost within idiotic abstractions and diversions like football on TV.

    Alas, but people will not begin to taking due heed UNTIL disaster, starvation, and civil unrest are erupting all around, I fear. No matter, we bloggers can at least begin to alerting the people much as possible as we do presently by way of mighty internet.

    “James O’Meara,” I’m surprised u have cheek to show ur putrid face on any intellectual or rationalistic -oriented blog. Jews may have condemned homosexuality, but that’s only natural as any military force must do so by way of integrity for military success.

    In truth and fact, it is reason and health (hence Greeks, at least for potential) which condemns homosexual obsession/fixation/indulgence.

    For queers are psychotic in way of obsession for sense-gratification, always so weak for the intellect (as u demonstrate), u dig?–it (queerness) cannot be condoned as matter of public policy as it ALWAYS, always leads to social degeneration as history consistently shows. Queers, like urself, may contrive to imagine they’re “elite”–but then so do the Jew enemies of humanity, yes?

    CONCLUSION: For there is no justification or use for queer indulgence whatsoever; it produces nothing–it is sheer indulgence and nothing else, which then leads to obsession, esp. for the weak-minded like urself, James. Queers are mere hedonists of low and typically superficial intellectuality, and it’s notorious fact, I believe, queers are such gross and typical alcoholics. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  20. April 11, 2010 - 8:44 am | Permalink

    “SMC says:
    April 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM

    Have you ever noticed that whatever sexual practice is at the edge, it is always Jews who are trying to shove it down our throats? I think this is the main reason most non-Jews hate Jews. From homosexuality to pornography to “polyamory” to incest, it is always Jews leading the charge that this new perversion has to be accepted and become normal. …. It’s time someone exposed the Jews behind these sexual envelope pushings.”

    Um, you are familiar with the book of Leviticus, yes?

    Its still somewhat amusing, though increasingly less so, when a Judaized-Former-Pagan [viz, Christian] attacks “the Jews” for “promoting homosexuality.”

    Of course, anyone with a better than 6th grade knowledge of history knows that the Jews were the only culture to condemn homosexuality, a fact which they boasted about constantly [you know how they are] as setting themselves apart from the pagans [i.e., the rest of humanity].

    Since the male Mannerbund, as opposed to “family values”, is the origin of culture and the State, it is no surprise that the Jews never developed either, living instead as parasites on those who did, and instead developing the hypertropy of family that was Sieg Freud’s specialty.

    The Jew, my friend, always wins because he controls BOTH sides. Sort of like our political parties, both unwavering in support of Israel.

    To the Right, he preaches “family values.” That is why the Right is ugly and stupid — take a look at the mugs shots of the “Michigan Militia.”

    The Old Left shared that view [homosexuality was a “capitalist disease”] so for lack of anything else homosexuals settled into the closest thing to an elitist organization they could find — the Right’s anti-communist crusade, led by Roy Cohn, Whittaker Chambers, J. Edgar Hoover and Cardinal Spellman [Sense a pattern here? Well, at least the last two had excellent fashion sense].

    Same thing in Germany; from the early XXth century Masculinist movement to the SA.

    However, after Stonewall, the Jewish Left crafted an artificial “gay” identity to siphon off homosexuals from the Right, thus crippling it. This “gay” identity emphasized indulgence in drugs and sexual promiscuity, not cultural development. [The very opposite of pederastic education in Athens; Socrates vs. Alcibiades].

    After AIDS this became unsustainable, so a slightly new identity was created: the “gays are just like everyone else” notion that rather than free sex and drugs “gays” really want to marry and have children!

    Please note that in BOTH cases homosexuals are diverted from their role as a natural elite [vs. the Jews’ alien elite] by either suppression or diversion.

    What’s in it for the Jews? Same sick, twisted desire they’ve nursed for centuries: essentially uncreative, they enviously seek to tear down what Aryan Man has created and replace it with their own kind of failed society. That entails eliminating the homosexual elite.

    It’s Athens vs. Jerusalem, baby. Which side are you on, “white” man?

    Or should I say, “white” “man”?

    The Jew will continue to run America until we have fewer [well, none of] the Glenn Becks and one, two, many more Ernst Rohms.

    Or are you afraid of the alien sky god, JHVH-1?

  21. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    April 11, 2010 - 1:13 am | Permalink

    “Nationalizing industries? Yikes!”

    The government could, if it came to it as an emergency measure cease ownership of X and have the best men run x still for profit, yet it would as owner assume responsibility for paying the workers and keep the profits – reinvesting some of the latter in X with long to term growth in mind. The Japs don’t allow shareholders the max return dividends but require some of said return be reinvested in the company concerned to facilitate future growth. Makes sense to me, if it comes to it.

  22. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    April 10, 2010 - 11:57 pm | Permalink

    TGD:”Our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, the bonobos or pygmy chimps, have sexual practices that would make even Al Goldstein blush.”

    Bad example. We humans have evolved far higher than the low/base level of chimps — thus our sexual practices differ hugely from theirs. Whites should not emulate the sexuality of chimps — we have seen how that is working out for Blacks.

    Marriage, monogamy, and a strong nuclear family is the bedrock of advanced civilization — as we have seen these features weaken in the last few decades, we have also seen our civilization weaken: that is not a coincidence. The West is slowly but surely become primitivized – it is devolving due to the influx of non-White primitives and also the adoption of lower/primitive behavior patterns by certain Whites due to their being cheerleaded in the Jewish-controlled American mass-media.

    That being said, monogamy may get tedious for many. So after the children have been raised and are out of the house it is often no problem for a middle-aged couple to part ways and find another partner or two — but raising the children in a committed marriage should be the first and foremost priority.

  23. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    April 10, 2010 - 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Dr MacDonald – did you see the following article on Jewish DNA in the recent Telegraph article? –

    “A scan of half a million variable sites across the genomes of several hundred Europeans and Americans, each aware from their family history of having had a recent Jewish or a non-Jewish ancestry, gave an absolute separation between Jews and others: even a single Jewish grandparent was enough to provide an unambiguous identity, written in DNA. A carefully chosen sample of just 300 of those sites does almost as well, and a test based on that would be cheap.”

  24. April 10, 2010 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    Don’t Forget Blogging Is One Of Most Useful New Arts, Featuring Art Of Efficient Reading Too
    (Apollonian, 10 Apr 10)

    Andrew: what’s ur real problem (aside fm spelling difficulties)?–u don’t like to read, eh?–well, join the club–as nature of life is TRAGIC in first place, don’t forget, as Greeks teach us.

    My entry seems long perhaps, but note I give a summing-up at end, “conclusion,” whence u can get basic gist for the entry. Further, at beginning u can ck for a thesis statement, and the title also tries to help. Basically, I try to second the original blogger, Prof. MacDonald, and then try to expand on his basic lead regarding culture.

    Thus I pt. out a significant part of the Jew-oriented problem, a main predicate thereto, their necessary cohorts, the JC hereticalists who mis-represent basic Christianity, and who can well and easily be treated, as I detail quite a good deal.

    Otherwise I rather agree w. u about the idiotic babble regarding marriage being out-moded–on the contrary, it’s (marriage contract) one of few things continuing to hold us up, surely.

    CONCLUSION: Regarding “the troll”–yes indeed, and notice how he writes with that rather large, dense paragraph, not caring much for ease of the readership–but he only thereby under-cuts himself. Trolls are entitled to their opinion too, esp. as long as they’re brief. In this case troll could well have expanded his pts. for good of the expo he tried to present. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  25. Andrew's Gravatar Andrew
    April 10, 2010 - 10:47 am | Permalink

    The comments for this article remind me of a Jerry Springer show, chaotic and coming out of left field.

    @CaptainChaos, “Uh huh, nationalization of key industries which threatened to offshore couldn’t possibly work.” Nationalizing industries? Yikes! There are a ton of reasonable methods that can be used to keep jobs here. Requiring companies to have a certain percent of US workers to receive tax incentives (and punishing off-shorers with tax penalties), etc. Japan provides a template for this type of sophisticated protectionism. Socialism is quite unnecessary.

    @Calvin, “If “Red State” Whites can’t adapt to their new surroundings, if all they can do is run back to Jesus and tune in to talk radio, then they don’t deserve to survive.” Thanks for being a team player for our race, and especially for respecting the foundation of our civilization, Christianity. With Whites such as you, we have our very own culture of critique, thus making the Jews redundant.

    @TDG, “Perhaps the problem is the institution of marriage itself. Monogamy is not natural to our species.” Holy crap, now we have someone questioning the institution of marriage itself. As long as we are doing that, we should question the institution of families as well, and after we determine they are our achilles heel, we could examine ways to eradicate those harmful institutions.

    @Appolonian, I cant even figure out what you are trying to say, I will just assume that whatever it is, its eloquent and worthwhile.

    And of course, there is little reason to try to dissect whatever steaming excretion that the troll has laid, as is his wont. I dont bother reading those.

  26. April 10, 2010 - 10:22 am | Permalink

    Most People Are Not “Intellectuals,” Rather Heed Aesthetic–Cultural Key, Strategic Weak Pt. Of Criminal Oligarchs
    (Apollonian, 10 Apr 10)

    The “last vestiges” of original USA culture would be that basic Christianity, don’t forget–and it’s indubitably true Jews want most desperately to utterly, totally kill it (Christianity) all the way dead, dead, dead. But never doubt there’s surely something patriots can do.

    So what brilliant things have Jews done towards this end of exterminating Christianity?–as indeed, they verily intend to de-populate the present world, documented fm Obama/Soetoro papers, revealed by Alex Jones (, for one.

    Thus, Jews (Rothschilds) took control of Vatican finances back in 1850s or so, I understand. And then Jews had the Bible re-written and glossed (the infamous “Scofield” Bible) with their own pt. of view emphasized which, for example, equates Israelites w. Jews, Jews really only being late deviationists (fm 2nd or 3rd cent. B.C.) who follow Talmud–see and for best Talmudic expo.

    Thus we have now in this day an incredibly active and powerful faction of “Judeo-Christians” (JCs, also called “Christian-Zionists”) who say Christ was Jew (hence Talmudist) and traitorously support enemy terror-state of Israel.

    Meantime and otherwise, Christianity has quite degenerated into mysticism for many if not most, even among Christians. And people need to realize they are and will be directly affected as Jews succeed in destroying and countering such Christianity–which is simply, at root, the defense, reverence, and honor of TRUTH (as esp. Gosp. JOHN, 14:6 and 18:37) against Jew lies and conspiracy.

    Prof. MacDonald is absolutely accurate when he pt.s out not all people are so keen for intellect and intellectuality, logic, science, etc. But the good folks can, will, and do understand and appreciate AESTHETIC and its alternative method to straight-forward rationalist intellect which is precisely what Christianity is all about–NOT MYSTICISM.

    So note comrades: real patriots, and esp. LEADERSHIP, must stay in touch w. dear Christian AESTHETIC as means of keeping in touch w. “the volk” in general–and this includes whites as well as non-whites who all desire FREEDOM fm Jew-bolshevik oppression and tyranny, never doubt. It isn’t only white folk who are anti-semitic. Note Jews have been kicked out of every country on earth at one time or another.

    Thus patriots can verily unite ALL GENTILES, not just whites against our genocidal Judaic enemy, including Jews’ allies among homosexuals and other criminal element-types (including bolsheviks and the illegal alien invaders, who are mostly dupes, don’t forget).

    And crux therefore, I submit, to our anti-semitic opposition and movement is HEALTH of real Christian aesthetic which understands Christianity as FUNDAMENTALLY anti-semitic at its core–as anti-Talmudism of Gosp. MARK 7:1-13, for thematic example.

    Hence then, we have EASY target–for as Judaic-led enemy prospers and thrives, thus he becomes evermore ISOLATED and prominent, making up a literal CRIMINAL oligarchy, sociologically recognizable and definable, beginning w. the COUNTERFEITING “bankers” at the top and extending through the hierarchy, reaching down to the lowest-level bolsheviki enforcers, as I’ve noted and detailed.

    Specifically then, observe the weak-pt. to this large Jew-led criminal conspiracy are the aforementioned “Judeo-Christian” hereticalists–they’re really easy to spot out, isolate, and treat for their idiotic so-called “theology” and loyalty to the enemy terror-state of Israel.

    Hence then, it ought to be seriously considered the “intellectual” -types who frequent this blog, for example, need to be most familiar w. aesthetic developments and activities of Christians and Christianity; this familiarity isn’t difficult to do.

    Basic principle is Christian TRUTH vs. Jew lies and conspiracy (as esp. in Gosp. JOHN), and it extends to reason vs. mysticism. Surely most striking principle to place within mind is serious idea Christianity actually and genuinely OPPOSES mysticism–esp. for understanding of the buzz-word “faith” which only really means LOYALTY, never forget.

    So as I note, patriots have a really EASY avenue of attack against these disgusting CRIMINAL oligarchs, led by Jews, who are steadily DESTROYING the world, and this weak-pt. is aforementioned “Judeo-Christianity.”

    We (patriots) just need more people emulating good Pastor Carlson of, for example, who goes out and challenges these scummy JC hereticalists to their faces–they’re just putrid APOSTATES and crass liars: Christ was NOT a Jew (“Jew” being simply a Talmudist, different fm Judean, remember, most of whom were NEVER Talmudists, hence “Jews”).

    And supporting terror-state of Israel is gross, crass TREASON, pure and simple. Don’t doubt then VIOLENCE is justified–even if not necessarily most expedient for practical political purposes. And as von Clausewitz pt.s out, as war is mere politics by other means, so politics is war by other means too.

    CONCLUSION: Necessary end, to achieve health and cultural cure, is to remove this Jew plague–Jew disease-of-opportunity–upon heretofore horrendously hubristic society; best method then is to remove the “predicates” thereto such plague, like their indispensible allies and accomplices, the JCs. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  27. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    April 10, 2010 - 9:37 am | Permalink

    Perhaps the problem is the institution of marriage itself. Monogamy is not natural to our species. Marriage, with its religious imprimatur, is a way that society seeks to tame the base instincts of its people. The ancient and pagan Romans and Greeks had what we now call “liberated” sexual attitudes. Voltaire said, “We must blush for Greece.” Coming from a Frenchman, that is something. Our closest relatives in the animal kingdom, the bonobos or pygmy chimps, have sexual practices that would make even Al Goldstein blush.

  28. me's Gravatar me
    April 10, 2010 - 7:01 am | Permalink

    off topic but how’s this for a little Jewish networking (small but poignant example”
    Adam Rich on Ben Simon, Guitar Superhero
    BY: DAVID LIDSKYApril 1, 2010
    “We asked Adam Rich, editor-in-chief of Thrillist — the guy who tells guys what’s cool — to tell us the coolest thing he’s seen lately and why.”

    replace these guys with ones discussing foreign policy, immigration policy, well any policy and you have jewish networking in a nutshell – “next up Wolf Blizter will ask middle east expert Daniel Pipes on the best course of action for dealing with Iran’s nuclear threat..

  29. SMC's Gravatar SMC
    April 9, 2010 - 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Have you ever noticed that whatever sexual practice is at the edge, it is always Jews who are trying to shove it down our throats? I think this is the main reason most non-Jews hate Jews. From homosexuality to pornography to “polyamory” to incest, it is always Jews leading the charge that this new perversion has to be accepted and become normal. Look at Judith Levine and her book minimizing the harm of incest. Jews try to euphemize it to “sibling sex” or some other non-sequitur. It’s time someone exposed the Jews behind these sexual envelope pushings.

  30. April 9, 2010 - 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Projections of White EXTINCTION by 2200 have been made by futurist demographers.

    To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle. – Orwell

  31. April 9, 2010 - 10:29 pm | Permalink

    KM has delineated the economic firestorm that was unleashed on working-class White Americans, which today has now caught up with most middle, if not upper-middle class Whites.

    I recall Dan Quayle cheerleading the government SUBSIDIZATION for American manufacturing companies to move abroad.

    I maintain that this has been a pervasive pattern by the HIVE to effectively be one of their more potent tools in the destruction of White Christian families. True it is and was but one tool but one that has underpinned many another tool in their ARSENAL of weapons.

    Take their jobs, take their education, take their minds, their culture, their history.

    Then, as Edmund Connely, Patrick Cleburne and KM have all suggested, the Bolshevik with the leather jacket in the basement of some HQ.

    We know that the HIVE hungers for genocide, as old as their manufactured religion.

    They have produced nothing of beauty, least of all their desert tribal demon.

    The Jews’ determination to wipe out of public life every sign of the predominant Christian character of the United States, is the only active form of religious intolerance in our nation today,”
    Henry Ford

    To secure this we must have everybody vote without distinction of classes and qualifications, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention, In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any’ direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.

  32. Enoch Powell Was Right's Gravatar Enoch Powell Was Right
    April 9, 2010 - 8:35 pm | Permalink

    More bupkes from the ADL’s resident shmendrick, “Adam.” Gee, we’re supposed to believe that in the modern world, America can’t possibly provide better economic opportunities for White people on either side of the bell curve. How about an immigration moratorium? Or the repeal of disparate impact laws? “Adam” offers nothing but dreck. Don’t respond to this meshugana’s spiel. Mr. Foxman, fire this putz!

  33. Tom Watson's Gravatar Tom Watson
    April 9, 2010 - 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Yep. It’s the $64 dollar question, how do you help these young White men in their late 20’s, 30’s & 40’s find decent jobs, when the jobs don’t exist.

    The two counties west of me both have high (15%) small town and rural White unemployment. We have it here too (11%), but, we also have a couple of concentrations of Black & Puerto Rican unemployment in old small industrial cities. The product of this county is still majority agricultural.

    The only thing I can see turning things around is protectionism to a greater or lesser degree.

    We have an excellent education and training base—but—that ain’t creating jobs. It only costs the taxpayer money.

  34. Calvin's Gravatar Calvin
    April 9, 2010 - 5:43 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it’s useful to portray this nonsense as simply “the culture of the Left.” As if only a bunch of bohemian Che-loving crypto-communists believe in this stuff. Communism is gone. If anything, these two are bohemian Che-loving capitalists. …And their behavior is NOT a deviation from the system, it IS the system!

    On a different note, I think that racial protectionism is even worse than economic protectionism.

    If “Red State” Whites can’t adapt to their new surroundings, if all they can do is run back to Jesus and tune in to talk radio, then they don’t deserve to survive.

    Despite all of the racial hysteria you’ve heard from so-called White Nationalists, Whites are not headed for extinction.

  35. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    April 9, 2010 - 4:18 pm | Permalink

    “If it is cheaper and hence more economically efficient to offshore manufacturing or intellectual labor, then it will be done. Nobody seems to have an adequate solution to this problem,”

    Uh huh, nationalization of key industries which threatened to offshore couldn’t possibly work. Not a chance in hell. Otherwise Adam van Adwarfstein would have thought of it already.

  36. AmusedEuro's Gravatar AmusedEuro
    April 9, 2010 - 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I’m not much of a conservative myself, but I find this whole “debate” over “abstinence only education” to be nothing but a liberal red herring. Other than basic biology and health, why is sexual abstinence or otherwise even an issue in public schools?

    But leaving that aside – in the age of the internet and social openness about sex, what are teenagers actually learning about sex in public high schools that they don’t already know?

    “Sex education” in high school is nothing but cultural propaganda. Nobody in our class – years ago – learned anything that we hadn’t looked up in the library years ago.

    The conservative fundamentalist Christians of years ago were precisely correct, this is nothing more than ideological conditioning.

  37. Adam's Gravatar Adam
    April 9, 2010 - 3:13 pm | Permalink

    This is a nice distillation of the bizarre idea that all Americans have the potential to be college graduates with lots of skills suitable for a post-industrial economy. IQ never enters the equation. That’s just not going to happen. A far better program would be to provide better economic opportunities for White people, especially White males, whose prospects have been blunted by the present regime.

    Maybe it’s just me, but the first sentence and the last sentence don’t seem to match up very well here. Isn’t the real problem that, in a global economy, there just aren’t any jobs for people not willing or able to work for what the market establishes as the prevailing wage? The “present regime” is more than anything an economic regime that has been inexorably advancing on everyone at least since the time of the Industrial Revolution. The speed and invidious power of this globalization has been picking up in the last few decades and has now become visible to everyone. It’s flooding into all sectors now, even the intellectual ones that were the special preserve of the high-IQ types. If it is cheaper and hence more economically efficient to offshore manufacturing or intellectual labor, then it will be done. Nobody seems to have an adequate solution to this problem, which is inherent to the expansion of the global technological system. This is another way in which the expansion of this system is bolshevik in its outcome, even if not in its intent. It’s a leveling effect produced solely by economic factors that inevitably destroys natural categories of race and culture in favor of a unified global production environment. Perhaps the time has come to face the fact that, in the long run, you can have either the global technological system or individual nations and races as they existed, say, about 1900 — but not both.

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