"A Corrosive Loss of Confidence"

Ron Brownstein’s latest suggests that a political crisis is on the horizon, spurred by the disaffection of White voters and possibly leading to revolutionary stirrings and a movement toward a third party (“A Corrosive Loss of Confidence“).

Even as voters prepare to send more Republicans to Washington, polls show that Americans are not enthusiastic about the GOP. Indeed, the arc of disillusionment spreads beyond the two parties to virtually every major American institution. If November’s election allowed Americans the opportunity to fire not only members of Congress, but also the nation’s entire public and private leadership class, they might take it. This deep, broad, and visceral discontent is a recipe for social and political volatility.

Whites are more alienated from both major parties than non-Whites. Brownstein proposes that this is solely due to the economic downturn. I suspect that White disaffection also involves racial anxiety about the non-White future. Non-Whites doubtless feel optimistic about the long term future in a White-minority America, even if their present circumstances are difficult.

There is an apocalyptic tone to Brownstein’s essay—a belief that our new elite is out of touch with the great majority of Americans, that revolution may be just around the corner, and that third parties may be swept into power:

If polls existed just before the French Revolution, they might have returned results such as these. They point toward a widely shared conviction that the country’s public and private leadership is protecting its own interest at the expense of average (and even comfortable) Americans.

Because he sees the economic downturn as central, Brownstein sees a successful third party as headed by “a non-politician with a problem-solver pedigree” who is seen as able to turn the economy around.

He may be right, but the American Third Position believes that a prime mover of White disaffection is racial anxiety—amplified by the recession and by the perception that elites are completely out of touch with the interests and attitudes of the great majority of Americans. Good examples of the latter are recent court rulings that nullify popular sentiment on issues like the Arizona immigration law and California’s ban on same-sex marriage. Indeed, today’s op-ed page in the  LA Times shows the divide: The pro-homosexual marriage piece piously defending the courts and the anti-homosexual marriage piece emphasizing the undemocratic nature of the ruling: The “people’s will” was violated.

There is a feeling of powerlessness–that even strong majorities don’t matter any more. And that is indeed what revolutions are made of.

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51 Comments to ""A Corrosive Loss of Confidence""

  1. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    August 13, 2010 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    “There goes the neighborhood”, has a dual meaning, both racial & economic.

  2. TicTac's Gravatar TicTac
    August 13, 2010 - 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Not much better in Britain. The latest employment figures from the Office for National Statistics have provided conclusive evidence that immigration has harmed job prospects for British people and that around 80 percent of new jobs have gone to immigrants.

    80% :(

    American and European governments have absolutely maxed-out on their resentment for White people. Bring on the Revolution.

  3. Jack's Gravatar Jack
    August 13, 2010 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Gay marriage is just a distraction. It keeps whites from enganging in or even thinking about real issues. I mean, who cares if Dave and Larry down the street are living in “sin” or not?

    This fundamentalist obsession with the “sinful” ways of the Other is a major weakness of our people.

    • admin's Gravatar admin
      August 13, 2010 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

      @ Jack: I don’t disagree. My point is that popular opinion doesn’t matter any more. Kevin M

  4. John's Gravatar John
    August 13, 2010 - 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Kevin, please do not use the term “racial anxiety”. I am not anxious. I want a group strategy, like all the other groups have. This is not anxiety. Please do not participate in the Jewish discourse that uses the language of mental illness to describe feelings of ethnic belonging in whites.

    • admin's Gravatar admin
      August 13, 2010 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

      @ John: I think Whites should be afraid—very afraid of what the future will be like if present trends continue. Fear can be an excellent motivating force to get us where we want to get to. Kevin M

  5. HA's Gravatar HA
    August 13, 2010 - 5:50 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t get too excited about this latest episodic grumbling. It reminds me of Newt’s Republican Revolution, or for real nostalgia buffs, “thunder on the right.” Both of those got us all of…nowhere.

  6. Sadie Vacantist's Gravatar Sadie Vacantist
    August 13, 2010 - 6:24 pm | Permalink

    I am not convinced a ‘racial solution’ will resolve US problems. The great crisis is a moral one. People will not start a revolution because of too many immigrants but something like prop 8 is a real provocation. In the same way having a Jewish mayor signing off a mosque project close to WTC in the interests of religious tolerance is so overloaded with irony it would defy the most accomplished of satirists.

  7. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    August 13, 2010 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Sorry to return to a theme I’ve talked about earlier, but this really comes down to what I’ve called “the politics of space.” As long as whites in America have somewhere to run (suburbs, gated communities, quaint 15 acre spreads, etc.) and have the money to get there, that will be their first impulse. The Fight or Flight response has been mostly flight for the last 40 years because of affluence and wide open spaces.

    Our white population has dwindled to 65-70% and were just now starting to wake up, but Britain has been complaining about immigration for years when their white pop. has only dropped to around 92%. Why? Population density…they have less places to run and are confronted head on with the realities of massive immigration.

    When I was in Northern Ireland many years ago, I asked a Catholic friend, “Why all the fuss about some protestant parades? It seems crazy.”

    He agreed, but said that it wasn’t the parades that were the problem, it was the inability to ESCAPE the parades that was the problem. They were everywhere, and working class Catholic Ulster was a captive audience. As much as my friend despised the IRA, he resented the Orange Order for that one and only reason.

    It sounds crazy to all of you in Cali and Florida, but North Dakota’s gonna be prime real estate for affluent whites in the not too distant future, and when that place is eventually overrun by non-whites, THEN you’ll see the REAL backlash begin. But it will probably be too late by then.

  8. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    August 13, 2010 - 7:47 pm | Permalink

    There is certainly a lot of grumbling at the grass roots level, but an honest-to-goodness revolution is a pipe dream. The Russian Revolution, which was the last violent overthrow of the existing order, was in the planning for years with cadres of dedicated foot soldiers and a dynamic and ruthless leadership in Lenin and Bronshtein (Trotsky). The Russian people had suffered through years of real deprivation and the Tsar and the effete aristocracy bore the brunt of the people’s ire. I can’t forsee such a build up of anger and fury in the USA and there are no leaders of sufficient stature to lead a revolution.

    Sure, some whites are suffering especially those caught up in the “bubble” areas, but the vast majority still drive air-conditioned cars or pick up trucks, eat steak several times a week, live in the leafy suburbs with white neighbors and watch Hollywood fantasies on the telly. That’s not a recipe for revolution.

    What I see is a slow but inevitable transformation into a new Brazil where the majority of the population is of mixed race but also where an elite few whites control things at the top.

  9. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    August 13, 2010 - 8:28 pm | Permalink

    @ KMac

    Perverts don’t do a lot for property values either.

  10. TicTac's Gravatar TicTac
    August 13, 2010 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Jim,

    I think you’re right in what you say – even tho it depresses me to hear it. White people are too comfortable to revolt. But intelligence must also be a factor: PKM’s telling his people what the future will be like if they don’t do something today, now. And if they were people of wisdom they would heed his warning. Assuming, of course, his message is even reaching them.

    And Brits don’t have anywhere to run – apart from into the arms of the BNP – which is very good.

  11. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 14, 2010 - 12:27 am | Permalink

    TicTac says: “I think you’re right in what you say – even tho it depresses me to hear it. White people are too comfortable to revolt.”

    It’s possible to be comfortable in the short run by suppressing your fertility and spending the money on comfort consumption.

    When we think rationally about how that story ends, the appropriate advice is:

    “Be afraid. Be very afraid.”

  12. Sadie Vacantist's Gravatar Sadie Vacantist
    August 14, 2010 - 3:43 am | Permalink

    TGD

    I totally agree that Brazil is the country that the USA will start to resemble in the years ahead. You are right that revolution is a pipe dream. The irony is that a Jewish revolutionary spirit is required to launch one and it is not clear that wasps will leave their white flight communities other than for the game.

  13. Jupiter's Gravatar Jupiter
    August 14, 2010 - 6:22 am | Permalink

    The solution is not handing over huge tracts of Native Born White American territory to China,India,Pakistan,Korea and Iran. This is Farham O’Rielly’s solution. That’s what secession is:allowing china to extend it’s genetic borders deep into America…right up to the borders of the New White Homeland.

    I have full confidence that once Native Born White Americans get through the current cognitive dissonance stage, the wil throw the vast majority of post-1965 nonwhites out of America.

  14. heartfelt's Gravatar heartfelt
    August 14, 2010 - 7:36 am | Permalink

    Don’t delude yourselves that we will experience a peaceful future. The ongoing demographic transformation of the US will not resemble Brazil in the least. Rather it will be accompanied by bloodletting on a massive scale with enormous geopolitical, demographic, economic, and cultural ramifications.

    On the question of revolution or liberation war, I think Whites need to look into their soul and ask themselves, would they be willing to pull the trigger on rioting blacks and Mexicans, assassinate white traitors in office, and confront non-white fed troops sent to quell an American uprising? Would you be willing to commit extreme acts of violence in defense of your family, your people, your country? For White people, that’s ALL IT COMES DOWN TO. That’s it. It’s not a difficult dilemma. Once you accept the moral necessity of revolution and its attendant behaviors, then the process simply becomes a question of, How? Where? When?

    Make no mistake about it, the more ferocious the anti-white agenda becomes, the more white people will wake up and undertake a specific course of action. Massacres that target whites, such as the one in CT recently, will serve to wake up whites and legitimize racial violence. It’s happening. As white bodies pile up in the streets, Whites can not help but notice and act. Liberation war becomes a moral imperative.

  15. Dunnyveg's Gravatar Dunnyveg
    August 14, 2010 - 9:57 am | Permalink

    This is a case where I think both MacDonald and Brownstein are right.

    Brownstein is right in that there is a huge contingent of lumpengoyim who are happy as long as the bills are paid, the refrigerator is full, and they can stay perpetually narcotized on TV; i.e., panem et circensis.

    While I emphatically reject economism, I do think it is the case that the economy is by far the biggest issue. And until the last couple of years, the economy has been acceptable, though hardly stellar. In other words, when the lumpengoyim don’t have jobs and stand to lose everything, they become do become rebellious.

    On the other hand, MacDonald is right that people sense that something is fundamentally wrong, even if they can’t put their finger on it. I think this is evidenced by the fact that the current distemper started back in 2004, back when the economy was relatively good, and long before Obama was president.

    I don’t envy the PC elites at all right now. My guess is their disinformation efforts will reach a frantic pitch. They have no choice. The PC elites know that nothing good will befall them if the things Professor MacDonald and others write of become common knowledge.

    The PC elites will do their best to be disingenuous with and mislead the goyim. It’s up to people like us to tell them the truth.

  16. mark's Gravatar mark
    August 14, 2010 - 10:59 am | Permalink

    TicTac said:
    August 13, 2010 at 11:30PM

    I think you’re right in what you say – even tho it depresses me to hear it. White people are too comfortable to revolt.

    That’s why it is our job NOW to make Whites, including, and especially, the so-called “elite” Whites very uncomfortable. We need to upset their world using any means. Anything we can do to upset the economy, the food distribution system, to create pandemics, to burn every forest in the USA to the ground, it needs to be done. We need to create a situation in which there is no place in America where Whites can go and have a normal life. They need to have the maximum pressure put on them daily from now on.

    @heartfelt

    great post!

    Whites must accept the idea that there are no moral issues. We must, and we will, do anything we have to to survive.

  17. Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
    August 14, 2010 - 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Relax Mark. With 32 million Americans on food stamps and with the collapse of the housing bubble you don’t need to do a darn thing to upset the economy.

  18. Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
    August 14, 2010 - 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Mark. You might also want to read about the coming great depression by Martin Armstrong http://www.scribd.com/doc/14822407/Martin-Armstrong
    Armstrong is currently in jail but was the force behind Princeton Economics and as far as I know is a very knowledgeable fellow.

  19. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    August 14, 2010 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately, all third parties in the U.S. are obvious Jewish false fronts. And the same thing goes for all the third parties in Europe and the UK.

  20. TicTac's Gravatar TicTac
    August 15, 2010 - 3:45 am | Permalink

    “…a Jewish mayor signing off a mosque project close to WTC…”

    Mark, don’t burn down the forests, burn down this m……. ! 

  21. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 15, 2010 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    Re: heartfelt says:
    August 14, 2010 at 7:36 AM
    Don’t delude yourselves that we will experience a peaceful future. The ongoing demographic transformation of the US will not resemble Brazil in the least. Rather it will be accompanied by bloodletting on a massive scale with enormous geopolitical, demographic, economic, and cultural ramifications.

    On the question of revolution or liberation war, I think Whites need to look into their soul and ask themselves, would they be willing to pull the trigger on rioting blacks and Mexicans, assassinate white traitors in office, and confront non-white fed troops sent to quell an American uprising? Would you be willing to commit extreme acts of violence in defense of your family, your people, your country? For White people, that’s ALL IT COMES DOWN TO. That’s it. It’s not a difficult dilemma. Once you accept the moral necessity of revolution and its attendant behaviors, then the process simply becomes a question of, How? Where? When?

    Make no mistake about it, the more ferocious the anti-white agenda becomes, the more white people will wake up and undertake a specific course of action. Massacres that target whites, such as the one in CT recently, will serve to wake up whites and legitimize racial violence. It’s happening. As white bodies pile up in the streets, Whites can not help but notice and act. Liberation war becomes a moral imperative.”

    Please Dr. MacDonald, close comments, don’t allow them here anymore.

    I would say “moderate all comments” except I know you don’t have anyone to do it for you, and your time is too valuable to be wasted like that.

    I like to comment here too. But it’s better to weld a lid over a well than to let it be poisoned and let people drink from it.

    Comments like the one above are poison. They don’t represent what you think, or want anyone thinks who is moved by respect for truth and love of White people. The right kind of people, the ones you want to reach, will be repulsed by comments like this. And with the wrong kinds of people, these provocateur-style, Nazi-like, pro-terror comments are bad in so many ways I don’t know where to begin.

    For a start, they will surely be used to make hate propaganda against you and those influenced by you.

    Don’t allow that.

    I know it’s rotten to shut down honest discussion between people of goodwill because the trolls and provocateurs have gotten to be too much. But sometimes the bad guys win, because the good guys don’t have enough resources. This is what it’s come down to, and it’s better to acknowledge it.

  22. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 15, 2010 - 10:13 am | Permalink

    (Typo correction…) Comments like the one above are poison. They don’t represent what you think, or what anyone thinks who is moved by respect for truth and love of White people.

  23. TicTac's Gravatar TicTac
    August 15, 2010 - 11:03 am | Permalink

    Daybreaker,

    If you’re talking about my comment – I was joking. :) And that’s a pretty mild comment compared to the comments on YouTube.

    Gee, there isn’t even a mosque there so how can he burn it ?

  24. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    August 15, 2010 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    One of the reasons the multicult has been so successful is that the people least effected by its guilt-based conditioning are sociopaths who then scare normal people away. They’re the multicult’s accidental secret weapon.

  25. Royal Pair's Gravatar Royal Pair
    August 15, 2010 - 12:40 pm | Permalink

    A revolution is inevitable, if and when enough unfiltered light spreads through our propagandized culture. The brainwashing has been so vast and so deep for so long — but yet it’s surprisingly brittle, and many of us are managing to break on through.

    If only the masses could read and grasp the brilliant “Culture of Critique” — the indispensable antidote, the Rosetta Stone of our era.

    Or if not the masses, at least a good healthy vigorous Remnant that can still reason.

    In CoC’s aftermath, nothing remains the same. The old chaos of current events begins to make surprising sense. Things click, and after a while you don’t even need to say “a-ha” anymore. One comes to understand the pivot-points of America, and the true scope of the ice beneath the tip of the iceberg.

    It is really too bad that so much of this understanding is frustrating and even intolerable — but it speaks thus to the necessity of revolution. Not sure exactly how, nor when, but it does already seem to have wheels.

    Thank goodness for this website.

  26. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 15, 2010 - 12:53 pm | Permalink

    I know you were joking, TicTac. I wouldn’t take fright at that. :)

    Unfortunately, Wandrin is right.

    And I also suspect some people post outrageous things at race realist sites with intent to do harm.

  27. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    August 15, 2010 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

    @Tictac
    I didn’t mean you with the sociopath comment btw.

  28. Phil's Gravatar Phil
    August 15, 2010 - 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Ronald Brownstein, in his article, failed to mention (just an oversight?) the effect on the public attitude of the bipartisan bailout with taxpayer money of the failed Wall Street bankers. I think the failure of Wall Street banks had a devastating impact on confidence in the ruling class and the political elite. Their credibility is shot.

  29. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    August 15, 2010 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    We are beginning to wake up, especially as the media keeps telling us we are due for a bruising from the Hispanic voters. We gave multiculturalism a chance and are horrified by the results. We are running out of places to flee to – and the funds to finance a secure place. We must realize that unless we want to be a lame-duck people we must get out and organize while we still have the numbers. I don’t much like either party – but the democrats are really more hostile to whites.

  30. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    August 15, 2010 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    “One of the reasons the multicult has been so successful is that the people least effected by its guilt-based conditioning are sociopaths who then scare normal people away. They’re the multicult’s accidental secret weapon.”

    One man’s sociopath is another’s man on a white horse. In practice, it’s easy to characterize anyone holding extreme views as a sociopath, and gets even easier when they begin to act on those views. It’s a label that will doubtless be assigned to anyone wishing to save the White race, which is itself an extreme view, and given its desperate straits, extreme measures to effect. You should give us a few examples, Wandrin. Was Hitler a sociopath? Churchill? Lincoln? Stalin? They didn’t exactly scare “normal people” (whatever that is) away.

  31. surfer rosa's Gravatar surfer rosa
    August 15, 2010 - 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Daybreaker/Parler White,

    Man up and grow a pair. What exactly in the post frightens you?

    Nothing in the post advocates anything resembling a ‘pro-terror’ position.

    The post simply makes a point (that at some stage white people will probably have to take action) and makes predictions. Pretty uncontroversial positions I would say.

    What precisely got your panties in a twist?

    Keep deluding yourself and your little cyber buddies that this is going to end peacefully.

    Professor MacDonald himself has warned us to keep in mind the terror and mass murder inflicted on Russians and Eastern Europeans by Jewish Bolshevik regime, which could well happen here, to our people.

    It’s time to look reality squarely in the face. Don’t be afraid.

  32. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    August 15, 2010 - 4:11 pm | Permalink

    “One man’s sociopath is another’s man on a white horse.”

    True.

    “In practice, it’s easy to characterize anyone holding extreme views as a sociopath, and gets even easier when they begin to act on those views.”

    I disagree entirely. There’s a fundamental difference between people who desire certain ends and who will grit their teeth over the means neccessary to attain them and those who relish and salivate over the means.

    I knew some actual terrorists once. Serious ones who’d planted bombs and killed people. They were all sociopaths. They had a cause that a lot of people thought was legitimate but for them that was just an excuse. They got a thrill out of the power to hurt people.

    Not one of them would ever discuss anything like that on a public blog. Not one of them would discuss anything like that except in absolute private with people whose personal history they knew going back to their school days or people they thought they knew that well.

    The only people who’d talk about that stuff wildly and in public are the sort of people who are both a) sociopathic and b) stupid.

  33. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 15, 2010 - 4:24 pm | Permalink

    “Normal people” for practical purposes are Whites, specifically the kind that are presumptively racists, that is non-Jews. Crackas. Honkies. Etc..

    They have a bunch of regular characteristics. They’re much more inclined to good manners and restraint than either African-Americans or Jews, they’re less intense than Jews, they’re less ethnocentric and more inclined to believe in highly generalizable rules for assigning fame and blame than other races are, they’re smarter than most people except Jews and some kinds of Asians, they’re remarkably creative unless you absolutely kick the cultural self-confidence out of them, they are inclined to live by productivity rather than predation, they are far better suited to loving lifelong monogamous marriage than any other people, they look good and they like other people to look good (see in old photos how well everybody dressed and presented themselves before the anti-White revolution of the 1960s), and when they get a set of high ideals in their heads they are likely to persists with it for centuries at a stretch despite punishing consequences. (I’m not aware of any other people that pursued something like the crusades.)

    There’s no point in talking to people of other races about White survival, because at best they don’t care, and often they’ll gloat, both about what is happening to Whites and about the distress of Whites that are aware of this.

    Is talking like you have way too much in common with Timothy McVeigh going to make a positive impression on educated, intelligent, socially successful Whites, the kind that are needed to supply Whites with a solid, trustworthy elite? Not a chance.

  34. inga's Gravatar inga
    August 15, 2010 - 8:47 pm | Permalink

    My observation regarding White flight from reality has to do with one thing : Sports, including Hunting and Fishing. Ever see the picture of the White hunter, his 12 year old son at his side all in camo, rifles at rest, hovering over a dead deer ? Now that’s one happy dude oblivious to the cares of the world including his own destiny.

  35. August 15, 2010 - 9:43 pm | Permalink

    The conspiracy of the fascist communist internationalist as stated by Norman Dodd-The Hidden World Agenda has proceeded without intervention
    from any class.JFK Speech on Secret Societies is answer.The reason is
    the conspiracy for New World Order is international.It also permeates at
    all levels of control in USA.Within our classes we have the enemy within.
    Universities support the NWO.Corporate-Military-Private Business Sector-
    part of the minorities.There are exceptions!

    Norman Dodd stated they would distort history and control State Dept.
    They would blend the U.S. with the Soviet.This is transpiring today.If you notice no one wants to say the establishment is the enemy.It is
    being said in the closet.It is being said in”A Corrosive Loss of Confidence”.There are exceptions!

    This being said we must narrow the point of why in a nut shell as retards
    can’t remember what they never knew.Globalization and Free Trade are
    the down fall of nations and way to NWO adding illegal and legal immigration.Exporting industry and import goods at cost that can’t be
    counter by America production that has been gutted by the FED-IMF-CFR
    etc.WTO-Corporate-Private Business Sector are driven by greed not
    interest of America.Capitalism like sex does not have a brain!

    I will prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.The Conspiracy of the “North American Union”The Dream Act.Please research these titles at
    Yahoo-Google.com.Our establishment is lying to us.The congress and president which are puppets of the corporates as BP Global has shown
    are as phony as our worthless money being debased by FED further.

    The corporate will erode the U.S. Constitution until it does not exist.The NAFTA highway is in progress-Canada-U.S.-Mexico open borders.If you investigate the” North American Union”you will understand we have fascist U.S. government including the U.S.Congress.The U.S.Constitution is null and void-Ralph Epperson.com-Catalog.Why has congress and FOX
    CNN-not exposed the “North American Union”Status Quo-NWO.

    Capitalism is destroying the world and itself in consolidation of centralized power for elite as in past except NWO one king and one
    bank IMF credit enslavement of the world and its people.

    Leo Zagami in the 2012 Armageddon-You Tube

    “1/7 Syndrome of Control”Presentation Lindsey William-You Tube

    The Hidden World Agenda-Norman Dodd-You Tube

    Benjamin Freedman Speech-You Tube

    Noam Chomsky-Class War-You Tube

    The Committee of 300 Conspiracy-John Coleman1/10-You Tube

    JFK Speech on Secret Societies-You Tube

    The truth about middle east and israel-The Illuminati-Jordon Maxwell-You Tube.

    The U.S. Declaration of Independence has the answer to TREASON.

    TREASON-The New World Order-BY GURUDAS

    How The World Really Works-Allen B. Jones

    Walter E. Haas Search Yahoo-Google.com
    God Bless America

  36. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    August 15, 2010 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

    “The only people who’d talk about that stuff wildly and in public are the sort of people who are both a) sociopathic and b) stupid.”

    Not necessarily. Dr. Pierce put his revolutionary advice in his novels (The Turner Diaries and Hunter), and few would consider him either sociopathic or stupid. And of course, where outright incitement occurs, there exists the distinct possibility of an agent provocateur. On the other hand, such comments may be sincerely made, but ill-advised. Yet even if they are, it doesn’t follow that the commenter is a sociopath. If he were, he wouldn’t consult with us first. He’d just take his own advice and go do the things he suggests.

    I would also observe that the goals of reforming the system via political process and overthrowing the system completely via revolutionary violence are fundamentally at odds with each other, and different personality types are required for each. If violence is allowed as necessary, then it will often be true that the perpetrators will enjoy their work. Perhaps you find that fact personally distasteful, but it’s just how people are. On the other hand, if all use of violence is renounced, then there could be a point in saying that some of those wanted for the former might be frightened off by talk of the latter. Yet if we examine the history of political movements, it would be hard to find even a single example where real change occurred without violence. You don’t defeat an entrenched system by playing within the system’s rules. That is probably part of the reason that the White cause seems at times so hopeless. Having accepted the basic premises of racial egalitarianism, White people in general don’t see themselves as part of a group worth preserving, and are therefore disinclined to use force for that purpose on their own behalf. Thus, there is no prospect of violence, at least of the type and on the scale that is usually envisioned. Most of us are realistic enough to understand that without violence, there will be no change. A pervasive sense of hopelessness is the result.

  37. August 15, 2010 - 11:42 pm | Permalink

    So Adam,

    You support violence?

  38. August 15, 2010 - 11:45 pm | Permalink

    “On the other hand, such comments may be sincerely made, but ill-advised. Yet even if they are, it doesn’t follow that the commenter is a sociopath. If he were, he wouldn’t consult with us first.”

    No one’s “consulting with us”. They’re just trying to talk other people into being violent.

    “He’d just take his own advice and go do the things he suggests.”

    There are sociopaths who are too cowardly to act on their murderous and insane desires.

    Talk about a stupid argument.

  39. August 15, 2010 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

    “It’s a label that will doubtless be assigned to anyone wishing to save the White race, which is itself an extreme view, and given its desperate straits, extreme measures to effect. You should give us a few examples, Wandrin. Was Hitler a sociopath? Churchill? Lincoln? Stalin? They didn’t exactly scare ‘normal people’ (whatever that is) away.”

    Did any of those guys talk about burning down the forests before they took power?

    Did any of them praise someone for going around stabbing people?

  40. Jupiter's Gravatar Jupiter
    August 16, 2010 - 6:47 am | Permalink

    Whites are not revolting because they are too confortable. On the contrary, most of them are a only a few pay checks from the street. And this very likely explains why there hasn’t been a full-blown Native Born White American revolt. There is a very understandable day-to-day preoccupation with survival.

    However, there is a massive amount of anxiety. More and more White Americans are so nasty things about nonwhites. I hear it all the time.

    White Americans who live in White Areas are struggling. But they are also in a fantasy mental state that makes them oblivious to very real possibility of their towns being invaded and infested with nonwhites….it’s just magical thinking.

    Even if these commuities manage to stay nonwhite, large nunmbers of White refugees will flood into places such as Bennington Vermont causing housing prices to skyrocket,property taxes to sky rocket and route 9 to eventully become a rush hour parking lot. You really can’t escape it.

    I think it comes down to two things:1)you can’t give people excuses not to fight back 2)Worse is better.

    We just have to keep agititating,agitiating and agititating.

    I really do believe if the celebrities of the movememt made the right statements in public, things would speed up. If they framed the issue the way I have in my many posts here and the other places I post have posted…and made the kinds of statements I have made publicly, the enemy would have brain spasms and give the cause lots of free publcity.

    So what would happen if Peter Brimelow made a public defense of the Chinese Exclusion Act…or for that matter what if Jared Taylor did..I mean why hasn’t Jared Taylor gone after the asians…if he did, the asians would go nuts, but this would give us free publicity and emboldened our fellow White Americans to boot the asians out of our America…why does Kevin McDonalkd go after the asians?

    An incredible opportunity is being blown by Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor and Kevin McDonald.

    I have laid out in painstaking detail over at American Renassaince and Alternative Right how you go about taking on the asians. Can you imagine what would have happened if Pat Buchannan had written what I have written on these websites in his two books…the asians would have gone nuts..more of his books would have been sold….and there would have been more White anger towards asians….anger that is very justified….next step would have been deportation

  41. Jupiter's Gravatar Jupiter
    August 16, 2010 - 6:55 am | Permalink

    Worse is better. It is an evolving situation. The transformation is taking place. Full-blown Native Born White racial conciousness is inevitable. It is not very difficult to imagine the circumstances and events that will provoke. It is just a question of whether or or not you think these circumstances ans situations will arise. I think it is kind of obvious that they will.

    For the time being it’s very important to have the right framework in place so that when Native Born White American racial conciousness is provoked on a mass scale, this framework can be easily tapped into by millions of pissed of Native Born White Americans…this will help speed up the reclamation of Native Born White American territory and resources stolen by post-1965 nonwhites.

  42. TicTac's Gravatar TicTac
    August 16, 2010 - 7:30 am | Permalink

    Guys, I really didn’t mean that, and I really wish I hadn’t said it. I’ve been worrying about that all day. I’m such an idiot. I hope Kevin removes it. If someone did do that, they’d blame it on me. :(

  43. HA's Gravatar HA
    August 16, 2010 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    Jared Taylor (born in Japan) loves Asians, though not as much as he loves Jews.

  44. Jupiter's Gravatar Jupiter
    August 16, 2010 - 10:18 am | Permalink

    The most radical and “extreme” thing that can be done right now is to stop voting for the Republican party and let it croak. This is the big fear of liberals such as Brownstien. At least they are intelligent enough to understand the obvious:poltics abhors a vacum.

    The only thing can possibly fill the polical vacum is White Nationalism which is a Native Born White American revolt against race-replacement at the hands of high fertility post-1965 asians,muslims,aficans,muslims,carribeans and hispanics.

    Why are Peter Brimelow and Steve Sailer so fearfull of letting the Republican party croak? It would be the best thing that ever happened to Native Born White Americans.

  45. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    August 16, 2010 - 11:12 am | Permalink

    TicTac, I believe you 100%, and so will anyone else with sense. The best thing you can do now is accept that, and let your mistake go. Forget about it.

  46. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    August 16, 2010 - 11:48 am | Permalink

    How can any one put faith in either party. The two parties work together taking turns destroying our Republic, the White race, along with our culture. It was the Republicans who threw the election to Obama. The Republican Party was handed the election 2008 when the Democrats ran Obama. They were complicit in Obama’s win by running McCain, the designated loser, they could have won hands down with a decent canidate, and they had them Romney, Paul, Tancredo, and with Palin in the VP slot a sure win, discounting Diebold shenanagins of course. It is the ignorance and apathy of the public that allows the destruction to continue. Sites like this are a wake up call to the White Race if they would only turn off the TV, put down the beer can and listen.

  47. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    August 16, 2010 - 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel

    “Not necessarily. Dr. Pierce put his revolutionary advice in his novels”

    Putting it into a book is one way of not doing it wildly, imo.

    “I would also observe that the goals of reforming the system via political process and overthrowing the system completely via revolutionary violence are fundamentally at odds with each other,”

    My view is if you try and build an organisation around revolutionary violence in the current climate (or that of the last 50 years) then it won’t be able to grow large enough to be a threat. However if you can build a peaceful political organisation that looks like it could be a threat to the multicult then the multicult state will attack it and one thing will lead to another.

    It seems to me revolutions are more likely when the state attacks a peaceful legitimate organisation that the state percieves as a threat. If the state attacks a violent revolutionary organisation the average person just shrugs. It’s why the MSM is so keen to present the Tea Partiers as violent or the recent thing with the A3P and the bogus photographs.

    “and different personality types are required for each.”

    Professional volunteer armies are always better than conscript ones but conscript ones are okay if the individual soldiers are enthusiastic and they have enough good sergeants.

  48. gdj's Gravatar gdj
    August 16, 2010 - 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Reading the Culture of Critique has opened my eyes to the

    pervasive destruction of Christian, European values in America.

    Last night we were watching the original “Jaws” movies in which all

    characters appear to be gentiles. The three characters who

    are represented as intelligent and well-meaning are all played

    by Jewish actors. All the stupid and/or malvolent characters

    appear to gentile actors. What a coincidence! Steve

    Spielberg in that 1975 is already shoving his Jew supremacist

    shit.

    Perhaps Professor MacDonald was too diplomatic in his

    terminology. It should have been termed the culture of demonization

    and extermination.

  49. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    August 24, 2010 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Looking back on it, the Republicans deliberately engineered John McCain winning the nomination, because they wanted to lose the White House in 2008. I think they preferred a Democrat behind the wheel when the economy went off the cliff. Because of the marked lack of enthusiasm for McCan by the rank and file Republican who loathes the man, they ran Sarah Palin to galvanize everybody and make election look close.

    It is too bad so many Republicans held their nose and voted for McCain, hoping he would croak the day after he was inaugurated. I can’t see that many of them voting either third party or Obama, but had they simply made a point of voting for their Senatorial or Congressional candidates while leaving the Presidential choice unchecked, that would have sent a clear message to the folks manipulating things behind the scenes.

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