Kevin MacDonald: Solzhenitsyn’s Chapter 23 of 200 Years Together

The current TOO article discusses Chapter 23 of Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. I solicit comments here. The main theme is Jewish self-deception–the inability to see things without ethnic blinders, in particular, the history of the Jews in the USSR. After writing it, another example surfaced—they’re not hard to come by—although, as usual, it’s hard to know if it’s more a matter of aggressive intimidation than self-deception. Yet another government official has gotten in trouble for saying the obvious. This time it’s Karel de Gucht, the EU Trade Commissioner (“EU Trade Commissioner  Apologizes for Jewish Comments”).

The European Jewish Congress, an umbrella group, had demanded a retraction of De Gucht’s remarks in which he maintained that Israel frustrates U.S.-led peace efforts and warned not to “underestimate the Jewish lobby on Capitol Hill.”

“That is the best organized lobby that exists there,” the former Belgian foreign minister said in the interview with the Dutch-speaking VRT radio network.

“Don’t underestimate the opinion … of the average Jew outside of Israel,” he said. “There is, indeed, a belief, I can hardly describe it differently, among most Jews that they are right. So it is not easy to have a rational discussion with a moderate Jew about what is happening in the Middle East. It is a very emotional issue.”

De Gucht was saying (he’s since apologized profusely) that Jews honestly believe what they are saying is true, so it’s pretty much impossible to have a rational discussion–self-deception by any other name. It’s the same with the history of the Jews in the USSR—and a great many other things.

The official Jewish reaction has been to see De Gucht’s comments as an example of “a growing wave of anti-Semitism in Europe,” explicitly said to be on a par with Thilo Sarrazin’s comments on Jewish genetics. Again, there is a blind spot where facts are irrelevant. In a comment that is worthy of Abe Foxman, Moshe Kantor of the European Jewish Congress stated, “It has somehow become acceptable to attack Jews through Israel, even at the highest levels,” said Kantor. “The old anti-Semitic libels of the all-powerful Jewish cabals, the recalcitrant Jew and the irrational Jews only caring for their own, are remade to fit 21st- century hostility to the Jewish State.”

Of course, besides self-deception there is the very real possibility in this case that Kantor knows full well that this is just bluster and intimidation attempting to prevent public discussion of Jewish power and relying for its effectiveness on cowed European elites whose defining characteristic since WWII has been terror at being labeled an anti-Semite. Tough call.

Share:
  • Print
  • Digg
  • Facebook
  • Twitter

31 Comments to "Kevin MacDonald: Solzhenitsyn’s Chapter 23 of 200 Years Together"

  1. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    September 5, 2010 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

    I am afraid those EU bureaucrats who bleat about Israel being backed by the wider Jewish community are on a completely different wavelength to nationalists . They want to think that the EU is a super state and are furious that for all its much vaunted so called soft power the EU is ignored by the Israelis. That same ‘soft power’ mindset is what leads ideologues of the the EU to welcome immigrants and stamp on any mention of them taking over white societies.

    I think people who are concerned about the future of Whites need to rethink the way they talk about Israel. Basically Israel is useful to point to as an example of Jewish ethnocentrism, but the steps Israel takes to secure itself as the ‘Jewish State of Israel’ are not directly against White interests. Pointing out the hypocrisy of Israel’s Jewish defenders espousing mass immigration/ white displacement in White countries is fine but for nationalists that it’s a means to an end; the aim is to delegitimize immigration and displacement of Whites – not Israel.

  2. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    September 5, 2010 - 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Israel doesn’t need to be “delegitimized”. It has not yet established legitimacy, and at the rate it’s going, it won’t.

    Jewish exceptionalism being what it is – and this relates strongly to the topic of Dr. MacDonald’s essay – we will never succeed in awakening Jews to their glaring hypocrisy in (e.g.) demanding unlimited immigration for the US while choking it off to a nitpicking, racially hygeinic dribble for Israel.

    As most people know, the best way to get away with a lie is to believe it oneself. It’s good for the illusion of sincerity. Accordingly, Jews have hypnotized themselves (figuratively speaking) to really believe their own lies, including their own supposed “lack of racial identity” through much of their own genetically-continuous history.

    Thus, when a Jew says

    “Who, me/us? Whatever are you talking about, you antisemite!”,

    sometimes he’s not kidding. Like a vampire, he is unable to catch his true psycho-historical reflection in a mirror. Were he ever to do so, the cost would be a crippling level of cognitive dissonance, and the end of the diaphanous tissue of lies disguising Jewish root motives.

  3. heartfelt's Gravatar heartfelt
    September 5, 2010 - 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Why does the Admin. of this site feel the need to keep deleting my comments?

    Does the truth hit a little too close to home?

    I suspect it does. F*cking pathetic.

  4. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    September 5, 2010 - 10:40 pm | Permalink

    heartfelt, judging by the manners and level of debate you just showed, I hope the Admin. of this site keeps deleting your comments.

    Serious issues are under discussion here. Trash-talk belongs somewhere else.

  5. September 5, 2010 - 10:41 pm | Permalink

    De Gucht was saying (he’s since apologized profusely) that Jews honestly believe what they are saying is true

    That is the type of balderdash that Whites tell themselves to give them some false hope that the Enemy is NOT as bad as history has shown them to be. The Enemy knows FULL WELL what it is doing and is near to achieving its goals of genocide against the White race. That is the result of conscious planning and group cohesion. The results speak for themselves, the deluded do not achieve goals of that magnitude.

    Read this and you will realize that game was over as early as 1938. There is always hope of course.

    Dupes of Judah — William Dudley Pelley
    A Challenge to the American Legion – 1938
    The Inside Story of Why World War I was Fought.

  6. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 6, 2010 - 4:34 am | Permalink

    “Dupes of Judah” by William Dudley Pelley.

    You might find it useful to learn to link; takes a couple of minutes.

  7. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 6, 2010 - 4:42 am | Permalink
  8. Abe Fauxman's Gravatar Abe Fauxman
    September 6, 2010 - 6:40 am | Permalink

    KMD: “For example, Jews accused the government of enforcing the law on economic crimes in an anti-Jewish manner (“rampant anti-Semitism,” according to one writer).

    Regrettably, nothing has changed.

  9. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 6, 2010 - 8:15 am | Permalink

    Thilo Sarrazin’s comments about lower fertility rates among native born whites vs. non-white immigrants reflects the current situation in the US.

    Fertility rates among whites, however, is something we could do something about …my parents certainly did back in the 50′s and early 60′s (the baby boom): they had five of us kids. It’s one way of helping to secure a white future for this country without condemnation or control from liberal elites. But why isn’t it happening?

    The addiction to affluence, that’s why. Never mind the sexual revolution, feminism or birth control. The collective appeal of fishing boats, Harleys, nice vacations and wide screen TV’s is too great to waste time and money raising more children. I plead guilty…to a degree…by the time it dawned on me what was happenning to white America, my wife was beyond child-bearing age (we have just two kids.) In fact, my parents five children produced only six grandchildren.

    I take great pleasure in our neighbors, though…they’re just a few years older than my wife and I, but have a bunch of grown kids. I walked by their house yesterday while they were in the midst of a family gathering, and asked Dad how many grandkids he had. He had to think about it for a moment, then turned to me and said “I think we’re up to 20 now.” I smiled and thought to myself. “WAY TO GO!!”

  10. September 6, 2010 - 8:31 am | Permalink

    @Someday, you’ve got it backwards.
    European whites have more in common with the Palestinians then they do with the Israelis. Whites are the indigenous people of Europe as Palestinians are in Palestine. It’s the Israelis who are the immigrants. The Israelis flooded into Palestine and took over (which is what you fear with the Muslims in Europe) and now pretend they are defending their national/ethinic interest wereas the Palestinians are the true national/ethinic people of Palestine. The Palestinians have every right to want to throw out the immigrant Israelis, not the other way round. White/European Nationalism has NOTHING in common with Israelis/Jews, though the Jews would have us believe they do. If we want to be consistent, it’s the Palestinians we should ally with.

  11. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 6, 2010 - 10:10 am | Permalink

    Solzhenitsyn also points to the special role of Jews in economic crimes, where quite often Jews formed the “vast majority” of these accused.

    Yes, but Russians in the early 20th century were a notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people, and thus easily taken advantage of.
    It’s unthinkable an equally repulsive behavior, coming from the same quarters, would be warranted, much less tolerated today in the Home of the Brave.

  12. September 6, 2010 - 10:16 am | Permalink

    MacDonald: “Of course, besides self-deception there is the very real possibility in this case that Kantor knows full well that this is just bluster and intimidation attempting to prevent public discussion of Jewish power and relying for its effectiveness on cowed European elites whose defining characteristic since WWII has been terror at being labeled an anti-Semite. Tough call.”
    —–
    To my mind, there’s no question that the Jewish Zionist leadership simply wheels accusations of anti-Semitism our as a tool to intimidate discussion, criticism and scrutiny.

    Component of the Jewish Zionist masses might sometimes be engaged in reflexive self-deception when doing this, but not Jewish Zionist leadership, which knows exactly what its doing, and why. It will occasionally feign reflection in order to seem less ruthless and self-absorbed, but this is merely a temporary pose. It’s true nature quickly resurfaces.

    I think it’s interesting that De Gucht’s remarks are merely an expansion upon similar remarks that Oliver Stone recently made, which demonstrates that rebel European elites are confident that it’s safe enough to follow quickly in the footsteps of anti-Zionist, “anti-Semitic” ice breakers of Left and Right.

  13. RF's Gravatar RF
    September 6, 2010 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    Bantam says:
    September 6, 2010 at 10:10 AM

    “Yes, but Russians in the early 20th century were a notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people, and thus easily taken advantage of.”

    Can you confirm that? Please, PLEASE provide me evidence that Russians were notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people in the early 20th century.

  14. September 6, 2010 - 11:04 am | Permalink

    I don’t know it it’s true or not; I have my doubts, because Hitler had all kinds of ulterior motives for professing this, but according to Robert Gellately in ‘Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler,’ Hitler claimed that the pre-revolution, Russian elite that the Bolsheviks ended up eradicating were mostly Germanic in origin. If there is even a grain of truth to this, then what amounted to Communism’s program to eradicate an entire racial segment of Russian society under the guise of “class war” makes more sense.

    I mentioned Jewish Zionist Moses Hess, who essentially educated Marx and Engels, on the other thread. Although Jewish-German himself, he was a vicious Jewish-supremacist, anti-German racist, as demonstrated from the string of following quotes on Wikipedia.

    “The race struggle is the primal one, and the class struggle secondary. “The last dominating race is the German.”
    “Yet it seems that a final race struggle is unavoidable”
    “The Messianic era is the present age, which began to germinate with the teachings of Spinoza, and finally came into historical existence with the great French Revolution.”
    “To this coming cult, Judaism alone holds the key.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Hess#Quotes

    It makes sense that Communist-indoctrinated and influenced Leftists and left-liberals would want to eradicate anyone of German blood, then.

    BTW, a plurality of Americans have at least some German blood flowing through their veins.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American

  15. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 6, 2010 - 11:07 am | Permalink

    Sorry, got to learn how to link!

    Solzhenitsyn also points to the special role of Jews in economic crimes, where quite often Jews formed the “vast majority” of these accused.

    Yes, but Russians in the early 20th century were a notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people, and thus easily taken advantage of.

    It’s unthinkable an equally repulsive behavior, coming from the same quarters, would be warranted, much less tolerated today in the Home of the Brave.

  16. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    September 6, 2010 - 11:14 am | Permalink

    “Jews who fancied themselves assimilated engaged in self-deception. Solzhenitsyn quotes a scientist who rejected “any nationalism” but then it dawned on him that all his friends were Jews.”

    White liberals who say their national identity has nothing to do with being white are also practicing self-deception. The difference is that Jews are loyal to their own people, whereas liberals automatically favor the non-white side in any racial issue. Their inverted behavior is proof of their racial conscience.

    If Jews think they are assimilated, they are lying to themselves. But it is even more absurd for White liberals to pretend that they don’t see any difference between themselves and Blacks. I think White people everywhere are naturally interested in what is happening to White South-Africans, just as Jews are interested in Israel. By contrast, I feel I don’t have anything to do with the non-whites who live down my street.

    Liberals also lie to themselves if they think they are moved by altruism and not by self-interest. Most often, they are afraid to hurt their careers or be criticized. I don’t think most of them want to hurt others. It’s not active self-deceit on their part. I think they just go with the flow, not caring about logic and coherence. Jews are different in that they have more of an active role.

  17. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 6, 2010 - 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Come on RF, don’t you see my point?

  18. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    September 6, 2010 - 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Bantam says: “Yes, but Russians in the early 20th century were a notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people, and thus easily taken advantage of.”

    This notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people had a huge revolution, fought in two world wars, crushed the Third Reich and conquered Eastern Europe. And they did it, as military historian Richard Overy says in his book Why The Allies Won. in part because of their superior culture. Stalin was right: you couldn’t get the average Ivan to fight for Communism, or not as hard as the world war required, but it was easy to get him to fight for Mother Russia, and this was because of high Russian cultural achievements that ordinary Russians were proud of.

    If Russians had really been the culture-less subhumans that the National Socialists thought they were, Russia would have lost.

  19. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    September 6, 2010 - 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Ah, Bantam, I see I should have followed your links before I replied. You do get it.

  20. HA's Gravatar HA
    September 7, 2010 - 4:58 am | Permalink

    Everything about Israel is directed against white interests: the billions in aid whites are forced to fork over to it, the thousands of white troops who’ve died fighting Israel’s enemies, and the Holohoax guilt that Israel continues to impose on whites, which continues to gnaw away at any sense of white solidarity.

  21. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    September 7, 2010 - 8:53 am | Permalink

    It really doesn’t matter which Jews are self-deceptive and which just have the chutzpah to deny reality. The more they indulge in this behavior the more people will wake up. We can see the truth in front of us and demands that we deny that truth and kowtow to Jewish dictates are getting very old.

  22. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    September 7, 2010 - 10:53 am | Permalink

    From A. Solzhenitsyn’s chapter 23

    “In 1961, an explicitly anti-Semitic campaign was initiated against the `theft of socialist property.´” Beginning in 1961, a number of punitive decrees of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR were passed. The first one dealt with “foreign currency speculations,” another – with bribes, and still another later introduced capital punishment for the aforementioned crimes, at the same time lawlessly applying the death penalty retroactively, for the crimes committed before those decrees were issued (as, for example, the case of J. Rokotov and B. Faybishenko). Executions started in the very first year. During the first nine trials, eleven individuals were sentenced to death – among them were “perhaps, six Jews.”The Jewish Encyclopedia states it more specifically, “In 1961-1964, thirty-nine Jews were executed for economic crimes in the RSFSR and seventy-nine – in Ukraine,” and forty-three Jews in other republics. In these trials, “the vast majority of defendants were Jews.” (The publicity was such that the court reports indicated the names and patronymics of the defendants, which was the normal order of pleadings, yet it was getting “absolutely clear from that that they were Jews.”)

    Khrushchev to his credit dealt firmly with Jewish financial crime. Even in socialist Russia of the 1950s and 1960s, Jewish miscreants found clever ways to cheat the state and enrich themselves. Now, however, with the demise of the Soviet state, the Jewish miscreants sometimes labeled “the Russian mafia” and including the super rich “oligarchs” are lounging on their mega yachts enjoying beluga malossol and the company of international starlets rather than suffering a bullet to the back of the head.

  23. September 7, 2010 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Hi,

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n1p16_Smith.html
    More at this LINK:
    The Vexing ‘Jewish Question’: A Nineteenth-Century Scholar’s View

    Although today it is considered tactless if not hateful to speak openly of a “Jewish question,” the often thorny matter of relations between Jews and non-Jews in society is a real issue that has bedeviled countless governments and scholars for centuries. In the following essay, a prominent British scholar tackles the subject in the year 1998:

    Peace.
    Michael Santomauro @ 917-974-6367 

    What sort of Truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth?

    Let’s End Thought Crimes in the Twenty-first Century. — to separate historical fact from propaganda…peace is patriotic!

  24. Phil's Gravatar Phil
    September 7, 2010 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

    The accusation of anti-Semitism is a conscious attempt to preclude criticism of Israel. Were is it otherwise, there would be an attempt to factually refute the claim about the Israel lobby’s power. The lobby doesn’t even bother attempting that.

    By the way, when Jews boast about the Israel lobby’s power, are they being anti-Semitic?

  25. September 7, 2010 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Bantam says:
    September 6, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Yes, but Russians in the early 20th century were a notoriously uneducated, impotent and submissive people, and thus easily taken advantage of.

    It’s unthinkable an equally repulsive behavior, coming from the same quarters, would be warranted, much less tolerated today in the Home of the Brave.
    ___________________________

    Bantam – hopefully your tongue is well inside your cheek on the above.

    Also btw William Dudley Pelley was a Christian , believer in Christ etc which to all thinking people is nonsense.

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/dupes%20of%20judah.htm

    Americans have what is known as a “Goyishe kop” which is the reason that Christian Goyim are so gullible they would believe almost anything.

    Especially their Jewish Bible.

    The Goyim is ruled by Jews & probably always has been.

    That’s why we are referred as a Judeo/Christian society.

    Americans have what is known as a “Goyishe kop”

    P.S. Remember http://tinyurl.com/22p786w

    Today the masterful way the gullible Goyim have been set up to “War” for “Israel” once again is a shameful reflection on “dumbed down America

    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/12/08/the-deadly-embrace/

  26. September 7, 2010 - 6:22 pm | Permalink

    P.P.S. Solzhenitsyn the darling of the Jewish intelligencia for years until he let out the truth on the Jewish involvement in USSR attrocities.

    When the Jews were exposed by Solzhenitsyn he was banished to “Book Siberia” ASAP. & FOREVER.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1033.htm

    Suicide in the media by saying anything which shows Jews in an
    unfavorable light.

    The late Irish-American author Frank McCourt even “had” to change the moneylender in his Angela’s Ashes to becoming a NON Jew.

    Juden Uber Alles with 2.5 % of American population.

  27. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    September 7, 2010 - 8:55 pm | Permalink

    RF, please read Daybreaker’s comment at 9:32 PM and Mathew’s at 5:58 PM; you might avoid, though, his outrageously biased & hateful links.

  28. RF's Gravatar RF
    September 8, 2010 - 12:28 am | Permalink

    Bantham,
    Its all right. Though it seems that your humour is so sophisticated and my mastery of English is so poor that I am not able to discern the subtlety of your irony in all its entirety.

  29. Eman's Gravatar Eman
    September 9, 2010 - 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Mathew said “Juden Uber Alles with 2.5 % of American population.”

    Jews are A LOT more than 2.5% of America’s population. Possibly upwards of 10-20% and even higher (1/3-1/2) in more than a few of the America’s large urban areas in many of the major coastal states. This is obviously counting partial Jews as well.

  30. 3D's Gravatar 3D
    September 10, 2010 - 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Mathew says: 9-7-6:22 PM. “Especially their Jewish Bible”. The Bible is not “Jewish”. The bible is Israelite, the Talmud is Jewish. As far as scriptural authority is concerned the Talmud is, as one of their Sages said: “a mountain hanging by a hair”.

  31. Kratos's Gravatar Kratos
    September 10, 2010 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Funny how it takes only a couple of centuries for Jews to be found out. North and South America are still safe havens for Jews to do evil whether blaming white people for the slave industry which they took part or concocting shady accusations of “anti-Semitism”.

    It would be nice to figure out the maturity of peoples awareness concerning Jewish hate industries and at what levels they fully choose to take action.

2 Trackbacks to "Kevin MacDonald: Solzhenitsyn’s Chapter 23 of 200 Years Together"

  1. on September 5, 2010 at 11:06 am
  2. on September 15, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Comments are closed.