Steven A. Cohen: "I'm rich. Obey me."
Thanks to “Tom”, who by posting a link to it in the comment thread to my blog SEC’s Becker/Madoff saga: How could it smell worse? alerted me to Donors to G.O.P. Are Backing Gay Marriage Push by Nicholas Confessore and Michael Barbaro The New York Times May 13, 2011
As gay rights advocates intensify their campaign to legalize same-sex marriage in New York, the bulk of their money is coming from an unexpected source: a group of conservative financiers and wealthy donors to the Republican Party, most of whom are known for bankrolling right-leaning candidates and causes.
Predictably, the NYT avoids the most significant aspect to this story, but the Capital J blog at the JTA.org website is made of sterner stuff:
The New York Times runs a piece today on how the big money behind the push for sanctioning gay marriage in New York State is coming from Republicans.
The figures named are also Jewish….But I mean every name. Here’s what a quick Google search came up with:
–Paul Singer: on the boards of Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs and Commentary
–Daniel Loeb: Appeared at events for YIVO and the Jewish Enrichment Center.
–Clifford Asness: Likened Obama’s proposed tax policies to pogroms. (Yes, philanthropy would be nicer than name calling, but this is still a form of identification.)
–Steven A. Cohen: this excellent Tablet piece by Allison Hoffman exposes a rabbi who tried to use Cohen’s Jewishness in a scheme to extort money from him, but otherwise notes that Cohen’s philanthropy does not have much of a Jewish slant…
And then there’s former Republican National Committee chairman, Ken Mehlman, who’s organizing the whole GOP push, and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who also backs the initiative (but is no longer a Republican.) Jewish, Republican, pro-gay rights by Ron Kampeas – May 14, 2011Advertisement
(I note “Cliff Asness” was the largest donor at Temple Sholom of Greenwich, Connecticut’s Kol Nidre Pledge Appeal this year – here, P5. The Asness Hedge Fund, AQR Capital, is Greenwich-based.).
This story is essentially a microcosm of the 21st Century American political process. Gay Marriage has invariably been rejected whenever the electorate gets a chance to vote on it. What these wealthy Jews are saying is that their opinions backed by their money should get paramountcy, and the preferences and religious scruples of the majority of their fellow countrymen count for nothing and should be ignored. It is a naked display of bigotry and brute financial force.
Perhaps they are moved by the obvious advantages of a political alliance with the wealthy and extremely aggressive homosexual lobby. But these particular men are supposed to be Republicans -- not much to be gained there. Perhaps they are thinking communally.
More likely the motive is straight out of Kevin MacDonald’s analysis – an insatiable and ferocious lust to eradicate the Christian aspects of the culture of their host, regardless of the fruits it has allowed them to reap.
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More likely the motive is straight out of Kevin MacDonald’s analysis – an insatiable and ferocious lust to eradicate the Christian aspects of the culture of their host, regardless of the fruits it has allowed them to reap.
This seems to be true. Jews, religious or not, are obsessed with opposing Christian or White Gentile culture. This zeal actually seems strongest among the non-religious Jews.
Advocating for gay rights, however wrongheaded, constitutes
“opposing Christian or White Gentile culture?”
If you believe this…don’t you find it odd that white gentile culture is and has been the most accommodating to homosexuality of the world’s major cultures with very few exceptions. How could this be the case?
The motivation of leftist Jews and many Jews in general is to promote practices in White culture that undermine White culture. There is an almost instinctive hostility to WASP or White cultures, at least among activist Jews. I wish it were not true.
Has White gentile culture been the most accommodating of homosexuality? Possibly, but White culture has been more open and tolerant of many things …. perhaps tolerant to a fault. It is a much more individualistic culture than any on earth. But most White gentiles do not want to tolerate gay marriage, they simply aren’t interested in persecuting gays.
Exactly how does gay marriage “undermine white culture?” A stupid idea, yes it is, but it undermines white culture?
Was white culture undermined over the past 1,000 years by it’s relatively greater tolerance of homosexuality than it’s enemies?
If anything about marriage is undermining culture, white or otherwise, it’s the heterosexual abandonment of the whole marriage enterprise. This is something Ken Mehlman and the NY Jews supporting gay marriage are not responsible for.
Well White culture hasn’t been that tolerant toward gays historically. Ask gays. Homosexuality was a crime punishable by death or imprisonment until modern times. It fact, White culture has been pretty hostile to gays until very recently.
And yes, there have been times when gays were more openly accepted … perhaps in ancient Greece and the decadent period of ancient Rome, as well as a few other times in Western Civilization. But for the most part, the last 2,000 years of White history has outlawed open homosexuality.
The success of jewish lobbying has not been in promoting homosexuality but in co-opting homosexuals to their cause thereby dividing of nearly 5%-10% of the White population along with their loved ones and familes to race destroying ‘diversity;. This is an increbile loss to the White cause. I would say that homosexuality will always be there, it probably has an underlying sociobiological benefit. Is it rarer in some races? I don’t know.
The friend that gave me a voice to be racialy conscious was a homosexual who came out years latter. Slowly he fell in with the gay crowd which is often but not always ‘liberal’ and now I would call him philosemitic.
Similarly, through a kind of gender-marxism has succeded in schisiming off many White women, (something that has sadly harmed the girls lives in the long run) The more rational and non socially destructive ‘liberal feminism’ is pretty much sidelined. I rather suspect a feminist, who happens to be White, that tries to promoting measures to allow carear and motherhood so as to increse the birth rate is going to feel the wrath.
We need a space for the homosexual in our movement and we need a voice for women. It has been the success of gender-ethno-marxists in the form of jewish script writers to portray the White ‘jock’ male as a mysoginist oaf and the leventine looking jew as a sensitive and strong ideal.
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I’m elected by jews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txwy0K6ssmA
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Haha, I missed this movie. Amazing.
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I.M.F. Head Is Arrested and Accused of Sexual Attack
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Will Strauss-Kahn be replaced as head of the IMF by another jew?
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If the conspiracy exists..
Strauss-Kahn has not done anything different than most of the Jewish elites have been found doing.
Last year, French essayist Bernard-Henri Levi, defended his fellow Jew rapist Roman Polansky on the bais that Roman being a ‘holocaust survivor’ – has already paid for his future crimes. Levi’s other credentials include support of creation of Bangladesh out of Pakistan, war on Iraq for Israel, banning Tariq Ramadan from entering the US for criticizing Israeli policies and the ‘Jews for Darfur’.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/irans-sakineh-affair/
Another wealthy Jew banker promoting the superior Jewish lifestyle & culture:
http://nyti.ms/k2Jsuv
Tom,
Homosexuality is “the superior Jewish lifestyle and culture?” Or tolerance and promotion of gayness is evidence of that superior culture? Which is it?
How is homosexuality part of the Jewish lifestyle? This is just all too silly to be believed.
@Winston
The news reports about the Jew Strauss-Kahn, and those Jews like him are self-explanatory. LOL.
To Strauss-Kahn, the woman was a thing, an animal, to be used to satisfy his “unbridled lust”. Jews haven’t changed since the days of Tacitus.
I think it is more like …
I am rich , but more importantly I am jewish and god’s chosen , so obey me .
Astonishing! The Jew is responsible for feminism–and its opposite; for homosexuality–and its opposite.
Whatever the sins of Strauss-Kahn he seems to be neither a practicing homosexual nor a feminist in practice.
[ This zeal actually seems strongest among the non-religious Jews. ]
That does not hold true in many examples …
Those friendly ” settlers” in Zionist occupied Palestine comes to mind , as just one example .
Yeah the settlers don’t concern me much, it’s like any other ethnic conflict to me. Whites in North America were settlers and dealt rather forcefully with the natives here. I do think the Palestinians have gotten a raw deal, but I don’t romanticize them and they are hardly unique. However, I understand it is useful to use the Palestinians for propaganda purposes.
But if you guys think it’s just a problem with Jewish religion we are facing, then you are mistaken. Yeah, Judaism called the Jews a chosen people. Guess what? So does darn near every other religion in history (about their own people). The Japanese considered themselves superior and so did the Chinese. Most primitive hunter-gatherer tribes think they are superior to their enemies and entitled to kill them. In the deep history of most religions you find this kind of stuff. Maybe Christianity is one of the few exceptions.
If we follow this thinking, all we need to do is get rid of Judaism, and viola, all problems are solved. This is not supported by the evidence. Genetic personality traits matter a lot.
The whole idea that humans are born as a “blank slate” has been disproven. We are born with certain personalty traits and they vary by ethnicity. Jews act the way they do largely because of inborn personality traits. Same thing with Africans and Asians.
I don’t see that this has to conflict with Christian views by the way. Christians accepted the reality of racial differences for centuries. Yes, they thought every soul could be saved, but they had no illusion that different ethnic groups were same. It was only when the Boasian view (that culture is 100% and genes don’t matter) was hammered into schoolchildren that this changed.
quote [ Yeah the settlers don’t concern me much, it’s like any other ethnic conflict to me. ]
Yeah , those – ‘ we are supreme and we want a world
headquarters where we can conduct our global agenda safely in probably the most strategic place on earth and we will have you white gentiles pay for it all ‘ – ethnic conflicts are a dime a dozen .
Not too important , it is .
quote [ Yeah, Judaism called the Jews a chosen people. Guess what? So does darn near every other religion in history (about their own people). The Japanese considered themselves superior and so did the Chinese. ]
The Japanese did not make it a point to rule the world from their world headquarters on other peoples land through their agents in all other nations , with a program of destroying every other nation of the world through subversion .
Bit different , it is .
I think the Japanese intended to rule as much of the Asian world as possible – they realized they couldn’t rule the European world. Certainly the English quite literally ruled huge parts of the earth from England through agents – and religion didn’t even play a role (I’m generally a fan of the British Empire to be honest). The Spanish ruled an empire that spanned the world as well, sometimes directly, sometimes through agents – in their case religion was used as an excuse, but it wasn’t the real motivating factor – power was.
There have been many, many empires throughout history by people that believed they superior (and sometimes they were). The Romans probably were superior to most of the people they conquered. Now, the Romans were more straightforward about it, but that is because they had the numbers to act directly. And they had a much healthier culture.
I’m not arguing that Jews aren’t sneaky, dishonest and harmful to Whites, I’m just saying you have a bigger enemy than just their religion (which most in the West don’t practice seriously).
If anyone would take the time to read about the Japanese, they would find they indeed considered themselves a “master race” favored by the gods. The name “kamakazi” means “divine wind” and those winds swamped Kublai Khan in the harbour in 1281, as he set out to destroy the Japanese. They had never been invaded prior to the US in WW2. They wanted to dominate all of Asia, equivalent to half the world. They attacked us to neutralize the Pacific Fleet. Jews are not unique in their thinking they are God’s chosen, they are also wrong. They are annoying and seem to have an invisible hand guiding them to enormously self serving and sanctimonious behavior, but so do most rich a-holes. As America goes broke, we won’t have the money to keep sending those jerks their life support, and they will get knocked off their ungrateful perch. Unfortunately, even if in some fantasy the jews decide to act differently, we are still stuck with all those darn negroes!
For centuries we have told the aggressive among our own to do what they what, but don’t do it here. The result was the exploration of the world. Jew both have a higher proportion of aggressive personalities and the firm belief that they have right to dominate.
“Jew both have a higher proportion of aggressive personalities and the firm belief that they have right to dominate.”
Which is precisely why, like clockwork, the native host population always rises up and rightfully hands them their a**es on a platter. Just as the Indians rose up against the foreign occupying force of the British and the Vietnamese against the foreign occupying force of the French, native populations have always eventually risen up against the Jews colonizing their countries.
“It is a naked display of bigotry and brute financial force.”
Your analysis is more than a little bit overwrought. It’s really kind of embarrassing.
“Bigotry” to advance these views? How is it bigotry? Wrong perhaps, but giving money to this cause constitutes “bigotry?”
Would you say it would be “brute financial force” had these guys contributed money to stopping gay marriage or whatever the cause at hand is?
Or is it only “bigotry” and “brute force” when you disagree with the aims of the donors?
Or is it only bigotry when you donate money to a cause most of the public does not agree with at the time…..say, donating money to Kevin MacDonald’s website, is that a sign of “brute financial force?” A clear majority of the American electorate would certainly disagree with the material presented here.
I do NOT support gay marriage. But I do know some of the folks mentioned and find your characterization of their motivations comical. Yes, they are Jews. But they are also either gay or closely related to gays. And if you are going to reply that gayness/homosexuality is a Jewish trait or that advocating for acceptance of gayness advances Jewish interests you will have a hard time convincing me.
So are you saying, based on your knowledge of these donors, that they are gay themselves and that is why they fight for gay “rights”?
Most of the guys mentioned in the article are either out gays (Ken Mehlman) or have very close members of their families that are gay. Yes, I do think that this explains what they are doing in this campaign. Misguided, in my opinion. But not part of some larger movement to destroy white culture.
Just curious Winston, how do you think they would react to WASP culture or to hanging around a group of Evangelicals or Mormons? I don’t think they all have to be explicitly aware of any “conspiracy” to hurt White culture, but they can still have the same instinctive hostility to it.
And for the larger issue, can you deny that Jews have played a leading role, for surpassing their numbers, in Leftist political and social causes that quite explicitly set out to harm White culture? The Frankfurt School … advocating for open mass immigration … multiculturalism … the list goes on.
Jewish men seem to be disproportionately gay and the Jewish community virtually unanimously pro-gay. Something’s going on there.
I support gay marriage. Mind you, I agree with certain libertarians who want government to stay out of marriages and only issue civil unions. Marriage is a religious sacrament and only individual religious authorities should decide who they will marry. The government can grandfather all the civil marriages they performed in the past as civil unions and any couples who are still together and want to be married can to to a private organization and re-say their vows.
White Nationalists love to bemoan Whites’ dwindling numbers, but they are quick on the draw to exclude Whites who do not fit their narrow definition of what being White entails. In a race war, your skin is your uniform and the criteria that David Lane offered is more than sufficient.
Homosexuals are the only white group that is still protected by hate crimes. Moreover, these urban pioneers are doing wonders to take back territory that Whites had ceded to Non-Whites through White Flight years ago.
We need to stop alienating them.
Ok Jason Speaks ,
You are right , jews are not unique . They are just one of many ethic groups with a run of the mill religion and hardly worth discussing .
Let’s tell KM to shut her down and all the posters to stop posting and we will start a site about the eskimos and their conspiracy to take over the north pole .
I’m not saying Jews aren’t unique, I am saying it is most likely a genetic trait we are dealing with. The Eskimoes don’t rule much, but the British, the Spanish, and many others did.
So, it seems likely that Jews have some unique genetic traits that explain most of their behavior.
Jason,
The guys on that list I am familiar with are very cosmopolitan. I know for a fact a couple of them feel very uncomfortable around fundamentalist Jews. I am guessing if Mormons or Evangelicals got round to talking religion with them they might feel uncomfortable. I have seen a couple of them with Mitt Romney and I didn’t detect any tension in the air.
Of course, none of this has any impact on the argument here.
Mehlman is not out to ruin white culture by promoting gay marriage in order to help destroy his “implicit” white competitors…Ken Mehlman IS a newly out gay guy himself! He wants acceptance of the lifestyle he has chosen, and he is willing and eager to use the state to force the rest of us to accept his choices as equivalent to those of heterosexuals. Ken is just confused, as are the others.
Considering the low birthrate amoung jews, maybe many of them are homosexual, and we should support that. The more openly gay and non procreating jews, the fewer jews our children will have to put up with in the future.
By the way, if we raise taxes on high earners, won’t that help us get some of the money back we are wasting on Israel from the rich jews here? If jews are more highly represented amoung high earners, as is strongly suspected, a high earner tax is a “jew tax” and is presumably a good thing for that reason!
If it (the high tax) is imposed by the Democratic President, it is the jews own fault for voting for him. Perhaps we should also eliminate business expense deductions for limos and first class air travel, also disproportionately affecting rich jews while using their own canard of “evening things up for the poor”.
Considering the low birthrate amoung jews
Scooter,
The overall Jewish Total Fertility Rate in America was found by a 2001 survey to be 1.86.
http://www.jewishfederations.org/local_includes/downloads/
I thought this quote from the article was interesting:
It’s ironic how a mainstream group like the United Jewish Communities can so openly so a concern for “Jewish continuity”, when Jewish leaders are so hostile to Whites who even express concerns over non-European immigration.
Or just look at that immigration minister Konstantin Poltoranin in Russia who was fired, no doubt sans any protests from Jews, because he made a statement “the future of the white race is under threat from uncontrolled immigration.”
So Jews can talk about Jewish continuity, but whites can’t talk about white continuity.
Note I used the example of Konstantin Poltoranin because an obvious way Jews could respond to it being pointed out that United Jewish Communities talks about “Jewish continuity” would be to say that it isn’t the fault of Jews that they care more about their own continuity than other groups.
But the case of that Russian showing by his statement that he did care about continuity on a racial level shows that it isn’t always just powerful Jews who care about Jewish continuity, but also sometimes powerful Europeans who care about European continuity.
The big difference here is the double standard where United Jewish Communities can talk about Jewish continuity with no problems, whereas the European guy who talked about white continuity was fired from his powerful perch.
What’s happening here is that Jews make war on the ability of Europeans to openly care about their racial continuity, while Europeans never do the same thing to Jews.
Clytemnestra–Gays have not “taken back” those urban neighborhoods. They have taken them over. Would you want to raise kids in the Castro section of San Francisco or Miami’s North Beach?
If gays are to have all the benefits society bestows on married couples without the main responsibility: bringing along the next generation, that comes a bit too close to the undesirable result of making homosexuality an advantage. If homosexuality is an advantage then obviously it becomes a disadvantage to be straight!
quote [ Would you say it would be “brute financial force” had these guys contributed money to stopping gay marriage or whatever the cause at hand is? ]
If it were to serve a disingenuous covert agenda then yes .
OMG , If you think these guys sincerely care about gays then I have a bridge for sale .
A disingenuous covert agenda?
Mr. John, Ken Mehlman, for example, is a recently ‘out’ gay who, like most misguided gays, is demanding acceptance of his newly adopted ‘lifestyle and culture’ by political means. Ken is a fairly religious Jew, it’s true.
But KM advancing a covert agenda? Be serious. What’s covert about a gay guy openly prancing around NY demanding to be allowed to ‘marry?’ As confused as he is, I bet Ken actually wants to get ‘married,’ but probably only to a goy.
So how does he reconcile being a religious Jew with his gay lifestyle? Is “Reform Judaism” that open? This would not be tolerated by Hasidic and the other more conservative forms of Judaism, as I understand it.
Gay Ken Mehlman, the Republican big-shot! That’s reason enough for revolution in the Republican ranks. Go Tea Party.
quote [ So, it seems likely that Jews have some unique genetic traits that explain most of their behavior. ]
It is genetics and it is religion . The two are entwined .
Many jews converted to Christianity over history . They are no longer jews but I am sure they probably are especially prone to liking chinese food .
But the point is that I do not think you will be seeing any articles about :
” we were jews , now Christian , we are rich , we rule . “
Jason, how K.Mehlman reconciles his jewishness with his gayness is not only of no interest to me, it’s really beside the point.
How does giving money to a campaign to establish gay marriage in NY constitute financial brute force, bullying, bigotry and jewish arrogance? The charges made by this author are really outrageous and so far no one seems to wants to defend them (for good reason).
Winston, I’ll have to think about that a bit, but this is just a quibble you have about the details of this particular case. But you aren’t denying evidence of a general Jewish hostility toward White Gentiles, nor their indispensable role in promoting Cultural Marxism, Leftism, open immigration, and an aggressive attack on Whites in general.
Over and over again, whether through money, media or the academic world, it is Jews playing the crucial role in undermining our culture. There was a powerful Jew who demanded that the Sierra Club drop its anti-immigration stand or he would give them no more money.
Or, the key role Jews played in promoting the Boasian view of human nature and unfairly slandered anyone that disagreed. Or, most of the people that pushed for the Iraq war and believe the US should bleed itself for humanitarian causes to help Third World people were Jewish. The list goes on.
Now in every case, we could try and find a separate individual cause that has nothing to do with their Jewishness … but at some point a pattern emerges.
JS: With respect, I believe that the only reason you find yourself saying that you will “have to think about that a bit” is that you, like any other rational adult, are stupefied that someone would ask you, in all apparent seriousness, why the room is so damned crowded when ignoring the sight and smell of the elephant (Republican or otherwise) occupying 65 percent of its space is a labor of Herculean proportions!
Really now, does anyone at this late date truly have to be held by the hand and given a daylong explanation that the historical American population and its cousins in Europe have been brainwashed into accepting democratic forms as the only morally legitimate political structures, while at the very same time the leading proponents of that brainwashing sneer at the gentile hoi polloi as the brainwashers treat those very same forms with dismissive contempt?
Some things are so clear, so mundane, so fundamental that, like the need for fresh air or the fact of a mother’s love, they are only noticed when they are absent or gone for good. Even then, one is sometimes hard pressed to put a name to them. The blatant hypocrisy of these soi-disant democracy voluptuaries is, in the political sphere at least, one such thing.
quote [ A disingenuous covert agenda?
Mr. John, Ken Mehlman, for example, is a recently ‘out’ gay who, like most misguided gays, is demanding acceptance of his newly adopted ‘lifestyle and culture’ by political means. Ken is a fairly religious Jew, it’s true. ]
Yes , I am sure that the misguided one has his individual interests .
But let us suppose that his interests were that of right to life , how far would you suppose he would have gone ?
6 feet under ?
The way US politics work….Ken Mehlman could easily have become a leading light in the RTL movement. He “earned” his status by serving Bush II and by being national GOP Chairman. After you get those two credits, you can become a part of most any movement you like, and he certainly could have been effective in the RTL movement. He decided, instead, to cash in and serve mammon on Wall Street at a hedge fund and advocate for “gay rights.” That’s what a Harvard education will do to you!
Let me re-question …
OMG , If you think these guys are acting in a spontaneous individual manner based solely on their sincere concern for
” gay rights ” then I have a bridge for sale .
But that is kinda’ long winded .
lol
The suspicious thing is, I don’t think most gay men give a flying flip about being “married” to another gay man. The reality is most of them have hundreds of partners and in no way settle down with a partner in the same sense heterosexuals do.
Why should these men really care if it is just about themselves? They are rich, they can live as they please. Why is it so important that society recognize their “marriage”? Now, there are non-Jews who agitate for the same thing, so to be honest I don’t quite get it. But in all cases, there seems to be some hostility toward Middle Class White culture.
No, I give up, you’re right. There was a big meeting of right-wing conservative Jews in NY last year. The head rabbi from Jerusalem came in for the meeting and advised these six ultra republican Jews in NY to launch a hard-ball campaign to legalize gay marriage, the better to finally destroy white Christian culture and civilization. How could I have been so simple as to think that some gays themselves could come up with this ultimate weapon to be deployed against the West!
Well Winston, your sarcasm touches on a disagreement we are trying to sort out here. Do Jews behave the way they do primarily due to genetics with some influence due to their culture, or is it literally a top-down conspiracy that involves all Jews and is run out of Israel by a Rabbi issuing orders.
Obviously, the second scenario isn’t true – that would be a caricature. But we can sensibly talk about the influence that different ethnic groups have. Jews have a distinctive culture and distinctive traits. Ethnic groups have come into conflict with each other in the past without the need for a grand conspiracy to direct it all.
The suspicious thing is, I don’t think most gay men give a flying flip about being “married” to another gay man. The reality is most of them have hundreds of partners and in no way settle down with a partner in the same sense heterosexuals do.
Why should these men really care if it is just about themselves?
Jason,
They want societal imprimatur for their sexual proclivities.
You’re right that an overwhelming majority of gay men probably don’t want to get gay married, but that isn’t the point.
A lot of gay men who don’t want to get married on an individual level do want other gay men to get married.
This is because seeing even a small number of gay men get married sends the message out to the public, and especially to the young, that we live in a society that views homosexuality as being equal in value to heterosexuality.
Also there’s the issue that a society which values homosexuality as much as heterosexuality is likely to have more on the fence youth go gay.
This makes it easier for the existing homosexual population to find youthful sex partners.
They are rich, they can live as they please.
Yes, but probably the thought of society disapproving of their lifestyle still bothers them.
They think homosexuality is at least as good as heterosexuality, so it makes sense they’d try to impose that view on society via the mechanism of gay marriage.
What I’ll never understand is why heterosexuals go along with it.
Now, there are non-Jews who agitate for the same thing, so to be honest I don’t quite get it.
With the Jews who agitate for gay marriage, there’s obviously a strong anti-Christian aspect to it.
And to some extent Jews are likely interested in attacking the West’s Christian tradition because it tends to undermine the welfare of White Gentiles they view as their main rival.
I think there was a similar thought process with the Jews like Betty Friedan who promoted Feminism, thereby undermining what remained of Patriarchy in the West.
With the non-Jewish homosexuals involved in the movement to have homosexual marriage, it has to do with the Leftist idea that homosexuals are potential victims who need to preemptively protect themselves against traditionalists.
What the Left refuses to admit is that the West’s old homosexuality taboo for the most part only served to protect homosexuals against their proclivity for taking things too far.
Who knows how many homosexuals died of AIDs thanks to “gay liberation”?
A whole lot, I would reckon, and probably more than all the Western homosexuals ever killed by traditionalists. (it was always more Muslims who were interested in actually going so far as killing people for being homosexual.)
YES – Jews are rich and powerful – And the Christians love Jewish money and power.
According to Forbes magazine, there were 1,011 billionaires in the world in 2010 – out of them 40% live in the US and great majority of them are Jewish.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/dramatic-rise-in-hunger-and-poverty-in-us/
Jason, re your 12:02 am post.
Do you persist in seeing this issue…..gay marriage…..as one of Jewish interests undermining or colliding with white Christian culture? I don’t.
So the question of genetics vs conspiracy is not relevant to my position.
Further, the intended point of all my posts here was only to suggest that the author Graham was completely out of bounds, off base and over the top in his description of the actions of those six NY guys financing and running a campaign to permit gay marriage in NY.
I do, very sincerely, apologize for the sarcasm in my posts. I offer no excuse. It won’t happen again.
John Graham,
I found your remarks illogical and ill-informed and can’t believe the OO editor permitted this post. Allowing everyone with a hobby horse (fear and loathing of gayness) to relate it to “white” interests and causes debases and narrows the potential support for your cause….in addition to making you look foolish and paranoid.
Winston,
Sorry family commitments this evening prevented me replying to you earlier. (Of course, being “child free” is a large part of the reason the homosexual community has had the time, resources and energy to build the political influence they have done lately.)
How typical that your response to a post you don’t like is to suggest the OO editor should not have permitted it.
The New York Times I cited, http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/nyregion/donors-to-gop-are-backing-gay-marriage-push.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimes
puts the amount these Plutocrats have already put in as
“…about $1 million in donations, delivered in recent weeks to a new coalition of gay rights organizations”
That will have far exceeded the amount all the white nationalist and even the immigration restraint outfits will have raised over the same period, probably by a multiple. And just for one piece of legislation in one state!
But note how it is targeted:
“The campaign is aimed chiefly at persuading several members of the Senate Republican majority to join most Senate Democrats in backing same-sex marriage…One of the donors, Daniel S. Loeb, said he hoped to make clear to Republicans that same-sex marriage had a broad coalition of support.
“I think it is important in particular for Republicans to know…they will not be abandoned by the party for supporting this.” “
In other words, lavish campaign funding will help them if their constituents rebel. And who knows what consultancies and other work opportunities are being quietly offered? (Hedge Funds with their far flung and fluid research budgets are ideal vehicles for this kind of corruption).
Throwing $1 million + at “several” State senators in a few weeks is a big deal and certainly constitutes massive, brute financial force.
And for what? The question is not lifting the criminal sanctions on Gays and freeing them from the threat of blackmail. It is to give them a privilege which they have never had in history and do not really need. In the process it makes a mockery of 2,000 years of Christian practice and deeply distresses what appears to be on the basis of those direct votes allowed to be a majority of the electorate.
But their views and feelings are not to be considered. All that ostensibly matters is the whims of a tiny minority. This close-minded domineering intolerance is pure bigotry.
Happily, we have been blessed with Freud to teach us that human motivations can be subtle and indirectly expressed. The Jewish plutocrats funding this may say they are doing it for their gay friends.
But in reality they are doing it to harm their Christian quarry.
quote [ The way US politics work….Ken Mehlman could easily have become a leading light in the RTL movement. He “earned” his status by serving Bush II and by being national GOP Chairman. After you get those two credits, you can become a part of most any movement you like, and he certainly could have been effective in the RTL movement. He decided, instead, to cash in and serve mammon on Wall Street at a hedge fund and advocate for “gay rights.” That’s what a Harvard education will do to you! ]
I did not mean to be a sarcastic as I probably came across .
Your point is taken .
However , in my opinion , if he had come out to give right to life some much needed vigor from his lofty position , he would been made to cease and desist in some strong manner.
I do not think that jews talk with one another on a special wave length shoe phone network , but I do think they know what is kosher . Just like we all do .
Gayness is kosher and for any one , and a jew in the rub party in particular , to thumb his nose at the party base like those two did , is to have used brute financial force . Which is in keeping with typical jewish subversive behavior . That’s hardly innocence .
I don’t agree that had Ken M. taken on RTL as an issue he would have been stopped. It would not have been popular with his new crowd, but he would have become an instant icon on the right, including with Orthodox Jews. But he chose to relocate to Wall Street and go with the secular crowd and the gay rights crazies….who would never accept a RTL campaigner.
Never accused any of these guys of being innocent. You don’t make billions at hedge funds or become national party chairman and remain an innocent. These guys all play a very rough game. Surprise!
“Brute financial force.” All I can say is you and the OO should be so lucky as to acquire some of that brute financial force. And I bet you would not complain one bit should a few stray billionaires and accomplished politicos decide to take up your cause!
Yes, gayness is kosher. As Jason Speaks said, “at some point a pattern emerges”.
“Gayness is kosher and for any one…”
So, it’s a “sin” to eat pork or lobster, but licking out another man’s b***hole is in keeping with Mosaic law????
Beam me up, Scotty.
Jason….re your 11:52 pm remarks.
You are generally correct. I do see things mostly the way you describe them.
But I also see that these ideas will be easily discredited and never obtain a fair hearing if everyone with an “issue” is allowed to pile on. Gay marriage, flouridation of the water, premarital sex, television, seatbelt and helmet laws, women in the workforce, unemployment insurance, allowing priests to marry…..all things I oppose, none of which are related or central to the issue of white interests and none of which are part of any Jewish movement to undermine white Christian culture.
I’m sure you get the point.
[ No, I give up, you’re right. There was a big meeting of right-wing conservative Jews in NY last year. The head rabbi from Jerusalem came in for the meeting and advised these six ultra republican Jews in NY to launch a hard-ball campaign to legalize gay marriage, the better to finally destroy white Christian culture and civilization. How could I have been so simple as to think that some gays themselves could come up with this ultimate weapon to be deployed against the West! ]
Really ? The head rabbi ? Was a rothchild there too ?
What did they decide about Iran ? Another major war or no ?
Well , I don’t think your scenario is as far fetched as you would hope to think .
I do think that everyone is aware of what is kosher . There is another term for kosher … political correctness .
I do think that kosher-ness is decided at the very top .
Gayness is kosher . Right to life is very much not so .
I had (kosher) lunch yesterday with four prominent rabbis. All are RTL. All are Kosher. All donate money to the RTL movement. Don’t confuse secular Marxists and religious Jewish culture. There is much tension between the two, and it’s growing.
(There was no time at that NY meeting for the rabbi to bother about what to do about Iran. The pressing issue of gay marriage is the top priority….
It’s the secret weapon to destroy white culture, and yes, TWO Rothchilds were present!)
In all fairness, I generally agree with your point. Gay is PC, RTL is not.
However, this silly post about the gay marriage issue is an embarrassment to your cause.
I think there is a divide between secular Leftist Jews and the Orthodox religious Jews. Just last week, we just saw secular Jews openly mocking Hasidic Jews for photoshopping women out of a picture. They referred to them as religious extremists.
Frankly, I don’t think the more conservative religious Jews are our problem. It is much more the Marxist, the Cosmopolitan, the Leftist Jews that have been the main problem for over 150 years. But for some reason, a lot of people have it deeply ingrained that it MUST be a religious war we are engaged in.
I like that. Kosherness.
What about “Political Kosherness” to more accurately describe our current cultural restraints?
[ Gay marriage, flouridation of the water, premarital sex, television, seatbelt and helmet laws, women in the workforce, unemployment insurance, allowing priests to marry…..all things I oppose, none of which are related or central to the issue of white interests and none of which are part of any Jewish movement to undermine white Christian culture. ]
Taken in total along with many others and some not so much ,
yes they are meant to undermine white Christian culture . They are kosher .
It’s really not that complicated . Jews are brought in a climate of fear the possibility of whites coming together and pushing them out . Because they really have been pushed out many times in history for behaving very badly . Its’ kind of a vicious circle .
So jews don’t have to be tuned in to head rabbi special radio from head quarters to do what they do , it is ingrained , it is a mind set .
The mileage achieved by promotion of gay marriage in western countries is a no brainer for jews. Along with gay marriage comes a new social and sexual paradigm amongst whites most noticeably. The new order consists of women who marry later in life or don’t marry at all. Have fewer or no children. Hence, fewer white males born. The jewish wet dream. White men become more effeminate. This is a turn off to white women who turn to non whites for that spark of ferociousness they used to see in whites. But this debasing of white men has a more intended consequence for jews; it makes white men completely neutered and de-fanged. They become easily controllable pawns who are terrified of being called out on a violation of hurting someone’s tender little feelings. They’re easy to shut up and easy to keep down.
Acceptance of gay lifestyle teaches white males to give up on traditional values, give up on families, give up on any kind of tribal group think. The new message is, “You are isolated, heterosexual white man. Get with the times or be crushed by the weight of them.” Gay marriage is just another cut in the death by 1000 cuts that adds up to the marginalization of heterosexual white males in their own society, and you’d best believe that EVERY jew out there wants to see that.
Fenria…..how does acceptance of gays, much less gay marriage, cause “white men to become more effeminate?” I do not argue that men have not become very much more femm in the past few decades. It’s a very distressing fact I notice daily. Even average male sperm counts are down if media accounts are to be believed.
But how you can blame this unfortunate turn of events on gay marriage or acceptance of gays in general is really beyond (my) understanding.
I think gay marriage does serve the interests of those who wish to see what the Frankfurt School called the “authoritarian personality” torn down. They have been at war with the John Wayne image of masculinity for generations now, sensing that it gets in the way of their Marxist ambitions. That’s not speculation, that is their own words speaking. They tend to see any strong heterosexual man as a potential oppressor of Jews. See this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality#Overview
Why are those on the Left so eager to emasculate men in the West? So much of the resistance to open immigration, the protection of our families from that onslaught, the refusal to accept Marxism, comes from traditional men and women who have the normal psychological reaction to Marxism – rejection.
How does gay marriage help tear down the traditional masculine role model and the traditional family? For one thing, by corrupting the concept of marriage itself. If we think of marriage as something between a man and a woman, primarily for the purpose of having children and raising a family, all sorts of anti-Marxist things flow from that.
If gay marriage is accepted, it is yet another way of saying to heterosexual white males, you are nothing special. Young boys will no longer see themselves growing up to be the “head of the household”, with the authority and protectiveness that implies. Of course, that role model has almost been destroyed already, so this is just another attack.
Watching some of the “most dangerous prison” TV shows gives one the idea that many of the inmates are White men who have been deprived of their manhood by both our economy and Politically Kosher culture.
Young boys will no longer see themselves growing up to be the “head of the household”, with the authority and protectiveness that implies.
That’s an interesting point, Jason.
I never really thought of it before, but it’s true that in a homosexual marriage there can’t be any gender based head of the household.
So yeah, homosexual marriage will probably make things even worse when it comes to young boys being able to imagine themselves growing up to be the head of a household.
“The man is the head of the household? Don’t be absurd! What when two men are married, who’s the head of the household then?”
And if young boys won’t be able to imagine becoming the head of a household, how will they ever have a chance of ever actually doing it?
Of course, that role model has almost been destroyed already, so this is just another attack.
Yeah, endless Feminist attacks on the head of the household concept has made it all too fringe in our society.
Still if homosexual marriage ends up widely accepted as being as valid as heterosexual marriage, and if elite of both the Republican and Democratic parties get their way it will be, this will probably make even harder for young people to think in Patriarchal terms.
I never really thought of this negative to homosexual marriage before, but it seems sound logic behind thinking it is (or at least will be) real.
@Fenria, Excellent comment. Every bit of it true. All I would add is that the Jews are also openly using the media and advertising houses to churn out the anti- White,hetero male message. It’s so blatant now that it’s shocking. It has to be a plan. There’s just no way that all these racial images featuring White women seperated from White men is an accident. Every time a pretty White woman is shown, a non-White is shown with her. As far as I’m concerned this is the darkest form of hatred I’ve seen.
[ “Brute financial force.” All I can say is you and the OO should be so lucky as to acquire some of that brute financial force. And I bet you would not complain one bit should a few stray billionaires and accomplished politicos decide to take up your cause! ]
yeah , Henry Ford tried .
If others did , then they would not be a foreign interest fulfilling an agenda that is well documented as being very much hostile to the people they live amongst .
Bit different .
[ However, this silly post about the gay marriage issue is an embarrassment to your cause. ]
No it is not silly and yes it is good for the cause .
The vast majority of people are well aware that there is something very wrong with the gay agenda thingy . They representation and WN should champion . The gay agenda might just be one of the straws that breaks the rabbis back .
And now we have major republicans on board ? It is getting too thick.
To dispute that the institution of marriage being between a man and a woman as being the very corner stone of both Christianity as well as white culture is ridiculous . Family is white culture . Race is a kind of extended family .
Let cousin michel alone and to be gay , but don’t have him forced on the rest of whites . That is what whites will go for , big time .
@ Fenria
Definitely !
Well put .
[ I don’t agree that had Ken M. taken on RTL as an issue he would have been stopped. It would not have been popular with his new crowd, but he would have become an instant icon on the right, including with Orthodox Jews.]
Orthodox jews are very pro life for jews .
For goyim unborn babies not so much .
IMO , he would be stopped .
That us until the green light goes on for at least some token jewish pro-life support and I have actually heard that it might be coming because it is just too much of an apparent totalitarian agenda with kosher finger prints being all over it .
We’ll see .
The idea of two men getting married is supposed to be not only accepted but to be ” celebrated ” as a good thing .
The nature of masculinity holds that virility is to be strongly supported . You don’t accept other men playing ladies unless you are spiritually broken as to accept the world turned side ways like alice in wonderland .
The whole idea of masculinity is based on pro creation and there for sexuality . Masculinity is about being the one who has the pee pee that goes in the woman’s pee pee and a baby comes out .
The daddy is a man , and the mommy is a woman . Getting these things all mixed up messes up people’s minds about their roles . When you make it normal for man to replace the role of a woman that makes the man less a man . I would think that obvious .
It’s supposed to be sacred and special because it creates new life , which we know is essential to WN .
Christianity has nothing to do with Whiteness. Unless your idea of Whiteness is Pat Robertson and his brain-dead followers.
I’m with the gays. They’ve done far more for European culture than Christian fundamentalists have.
Yes, you’re right. If only there were more Village People music, John Waters films, and Karl Lagerfeld suits, white culture would ascend triumphantly.
LOL: Pat Robertson + Robertson’s Dumb Followers = Christianity
What a hoot!
Yeah. Like bringing back AIDS from Africa.
Homos have contributed a lot to our culture. Piss Christ, for example.
Yeah. Like bringing back AIDS from Africa.
It’s both unfortunate and disturbing that they didn’t get any heat for that.
I think a lot of heterosexuals got AIDs because the media and government (especially surgeon general C. Everett Koop) refused to point out to people that homosexuals are far more likely to have HIV than anyone else, and that it is much more easily transmitted via anal sex.
Jason, you said “”The suspicious thing is, I don’t think most gay men give a flying flip about being “married” to another gay man. The reality is most of them have hundreds of partners and in no way settle down with a partner in the same sense heterosexuals do.
Why should these men really care if it is just about themselves? They are rich, they can live as they please. Why is it so important that society recognize their “marriage”? Now, there are non-Jews who agitate for the same thing, so to be honest I don’t quite get it. But in all cases, there seems to be some hostility toward Middle Class White culture.”"
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1. They are rich? I know plenty of poor gay men, and oodles and oodles of very very poor gay women. You really can’t make your assertion on the basis of any facts….how could you know that?
2. There are non-Jews who agitate for the same thing? Your assertion and that of other posters here is that the driving force behind this silly proposition (gay marriage) is Jewish. I don’t believe that to be true. I have seen no such evidence.
3. Hostility to middle-class white culture? The only way this statement works is if you assume that any challenge to the status quo is evidence of hostility to white culture. Here is the crux of my main issue with you…..is any desire for any change in traditional “white” culture evidence of a desire to destroy white welfare? The stockade, capital punishment for an endless list of crimes, no suffrage for women, unequal pay for equal work….are all the changes and reforms of these common white practices destructive of the white culture? Is every proposed change or reform a threat to the welfare of whites? Are we to be frozen in place, culturally, sometime around 1800? Do you have to see every change as destructive, negative and a threat to white interests? When it became no longer acceptable, legally or culturally, to physically beat up gay kids due only to the fact of their suspected gayness, was that somehow destructive of white culture?
4. If there is gay hostility to middle class culture do you think it might have something to do with the real persecution that gays suffered in the recent past? Could that be a better explanation than it being due to some Jewish assault on white culture?
You say you don’t quite understand why they want gay marriage, given the culture they live in. Well, many of them don’t want gay marriage. The political gays do, of course. They want it because they refuse to accept the fundamental facts of their existence….that being gay is NOT the same as being hetero. These guys crave, and now demand, acceptance by the hetero society on the same terms enjoyed by everyone else. The problem is that they are not the same as everyone else, and they just refuse to accept this fact. They are, in fact, self-hating gays! They don’t celebrate gayness, or work to create a culture relevant to facts of gay identity. Instead they demand to live as faux heteros. Marriage, adopting kids….
But however silly gay marriage is….don’t blame the gays for the destruction of the modern institution of marriage. The heterosexuals have done a very thorough job of destroying that institution all by themselves. And they completed the task long before the rise of gay rights/gay marriage.
Rich Jewish non-gays have a very well-pronounced left-wing liberal tendency, which far exceeds any such tendencies in rich non-Jewish non-gays. Yes, there are non-Jewish gays and even non-Jewish non-gays being advocating gay rights, but you have to acknowledge this tendency in Jews. Moreover, conservative Gentile rich people have never been advocates of gay rights (at least, not gay marriage), so this push by so called conservative Jewish rich people is a bit odd at the very least.
And it does fit a pattern, where Jewish rich people are way more liberal than non-Jewish rich people, where Jewish rich people even finance so-called ‘idealistic’ left-wing policies from heavy immigration to anything else.
Gay marriage is just one more nail to the coffin of heterosexual marriage, and by the way the sexual revolution responsible for the already rotten state of heterosexual marriage was also a thing that was largely made possible by Jewish-lead movements like Freudism. So this push for gay marriage just finishes off (or pushes one step further) an already largely Jewish push to turn over Gentile morals etc.
Someone wrote the metaphor of cowboys joining the Indian party and then starting giving money to Indian senators and congressmen to vote for a new cavalry campaign… from the point of view of a grass-roots Indian activist, what would you think about it?
[ Christianity has nothing to do with Whiteness. Unless your idea of Whiteness is Pat Robertson and his brain-dead followers. ]
wow , you talk about a harsh assessment .
I think there is just a little more to it than made for tv pat .
[ I’m with the gays. They’ve done far more for European culture than Christian fundamentalists have. ]
Probably true , but personally, I’m still not with the gays .
Jason Speaks = Jew Squeaks
Is there any point to that “Facio”? I wouldn’t respond but it is tragic to find posters operating on such a low level. I talked about the negative impact of Jews on Whites culture in this thread in some detail, but because I don’t buy into one of your cartoonish low IQ conspiracy theories, you call me names.
[ Jason Speaks = Jew Squeaks ]
Personally , I do not think that charge is true .
I strongly disagree with his take on some important stuff , but I think he is sincere .
But , anyone could be a jew . Who knows .
Shalom .
lol
MR. G. Re your 2:23 am post.
1.Every wealthy (white) gay guy I know has at least one trophy kid, many have two. It’s apparently very fashionable these days. 2. How could you find the complaint in my post “typical?” I don’t recall having ever posted here before. I think that your line of “reasoning” is not healthy to the cause you support and does not further the purpose of this site, hence my objection. 3. You sound impressed that these guys raised $1M. for their cause. You contrast that with the amounts raised by WN and immigration restrictionist movements to make what point? I’ve seen guys write million dollar checks when they truly believed in a cause and had the means. Even if just 10 of these guys gave $100K each, it would still be only pennies to these very very wealthy individuals. When I am convinced about a cause I give generously….don’t you? There are lots of white Christians who are rich….somehow they just don’t seem to share our views in these areas, or they don’t think they are important enough to part with their dollars.
I repeat my question….would you object if rich folks started to donate in a like manner to the OO? Would you view it as suspect? 4. You think it sinister that the campaign is directed at republicans. This is how business is done in American politics. There is nothing unusual here. Offering financial cover to republicans who want to vote for this foolishness is hardly corrupt by any contemporary standard. 5. You don’t think gay marriage is a good idea. I don’t either. But I don’t assume that New Yorkers agree with me. And they elected these jokers in the legislature. Are you are arguing that because public opinion is generally opposed to gay marriage, therefore these NY Jews have no right to spend their money trying to convince lawmakers to pass such a law? You don’t take part in campaigns when the public is opposed to your views? I suspect you do. 6. Where do you prove any “close-minded domineering intolerance?” Close minded because they hold views you don’t share and most voters, nationally, don’t share? “Domineering” because they are willing to put up their dollars to fight for the cause they believe in? 7. You offer no proof at all, NONE, that this campaign is being carried out to “harm their Christian quarry.” Even after you have been advised that some of the campaigners are gay themselves! So the motivation of gay Ken Mehlman in spending his time and money to infect the goy with gay marriage is to harm white Christian culture? Do you realize how silly your position is? How utterly preposterous?
Winston you claim to know gay men with trophy kids, jews rabbi’s, and tons of poor lesbians.
Man you swim in a nasty pool.
Jews are in charge and the money behind every national gay movement in the USA. Jews chair all the boards. Jews are behind the gay agenda. You can google and find tons of jews claiming it all over the internet. You can also find them taking responsibility for multi-culturalism.
I see it like this. The bible gave jews dominion over everyone. Jesus came along and the New Testament took that dominion away from jews. Now the jews hate christians and Jesus. Christians don’t like homosexuals so jews are going to empower homosexuals.
If the Jesus followers would read their bibles they would know that their God has foresaken the jews.
[ I talked about the negative impact of Jews on Whites culture in this thread in some detail, but because I don’t buy into one of your cartoonish low IQ conspiracy theories, you call me names.]
IMO , the status quo conspiracy theory with building falling down and the evil bearded one running away and hiding in caves is cartoonish . But then I must be low IQ , and that’s ok because dummies tend to be happier cuz life is simple and we sometimes do not make things so complicated as to be confusing . LIke when really large buildings fall down they need a really good reason to fall . Simple right ?
I would strongly recommend dummyhood .
lol
And yeah , some of what you posted was definitely not jew squeakish .
@ winston
Let us suppose that these were cowboys that were to suddenly join the indian political party and then to give a very large donation to the Indians for a strong and well armed cavalry campaign .
How would you feel as a grass roots indian party member ?
I sincerely think a whole lot of conservatives feel very much
like they are being railroaded , as they should , because they are .
To champion the cause of some much needed moderation on the radical gay agenda is populist and a solid political winner .
You seem concerned in several posts that these Jews are members of the GOP and therefore they were committing treason by working for gay marriage.
I think your opinion of the GOP needs updating. It is not a party dedicated to the preservation of traditional American culture…..where were you during ’89-’92 and ’01-’09?
More importantly, the issue covered in the article above was not about disloyal GOP’ers supporting gay marriage. It was about some Wall Streeters raising $1M and spending it to advance the cause of gay marriage….and the author’s view that this was sinister and part of a strategy to destroy white Christian culture.
winston
“Exactly how does gay marriage “undermine white culture?” A stupid idea, yes it is, but it undermines white culture?”
Peoples have a culture. A culture is a list of stuff they all (or mostly all) agree on. The point of it is the agreement. The point of it is to provide the glue that holds a people together through sharing common values. If any aspect of that glue is weakened the group is weakened. So if a person cares about the cohesion of their people then they would want any change in the culture at any one time to be limited in scope and gradual in nature.
On the other hand the culture needs to be able to change from time to time to adapt to changing conditions.
For the sake of example say a culture has 12 elements with 95% agreement. Then say there was pressure to change 6 of them. One way would be for all 6 to change at once and rapidly and drop to 50% agreement causing a great deal of internal conflict. Another way would be for one of them to change at a time, drop to 50% agreement before that element of the culture changes then that agreement to go back up to 95% again before the second is changed.
In numbers thte total amount of agreement in the original state was (12 x 95). In the first option the minimum drops to (6 x 95) + (6 x 50). In the second the minimum drops to (11 x 95) + (1 x 50).
Now obviously you can’t really control things to that degree but the principle should be plain. If the culture changes in a slow, gradual and limited way then it retains its glue effect. If the changes are rapid and wide-ranging then the culture becomes corrosive and divides people instead of uniting them.
That’s why gay marriage undermines white culture. Anything that was previously 95% agreement which becomes a 50/50 source of conflict undermines the culture. The rights and wrongs of any individual case are a separate issue.
Jews were developing the ideas behind this form of cultural warfare from the 1880s onwards, formalised them into cultural marxism from around the 1920s onwards and have been using their media dominance to put them into practise by mounting a full spectrum assault on every aspect of traditional white culture since the 1950s precisely to create this corrosive effect.
“We’re going to make western civilization stink.”
Israel Cohen 1924
It’s simply divide and rule. If the host population is divided and fighting among themselves then they’re not a threat to the Jews. Obviously destroying the social cohesion of the host population causes a great deal of harm to the host population but they don’t care about that. The only thing they care about is what’s good for the Jews.
Is that when IT really ALL starts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZy5lbWb9Xg&feature=player_embedded#at=85
Culture or comedy?
“Exactly how does gay marriage “undermine white culture?” A stupid idea, yes it is, but it undermines white culture?”
Geez, why are so many people missing the most important point in this discussion? It is a non-debatable FACT that jews are seeking the complete eradication of not only Christianity, but the total eradication of the entire White race.
Literally every political policy, social trend, cultural or behavioral poison that they push using their media control are all, in one way or another, designed to destroy the White race. Race mixing, abortion, feminism, glorifying drug use as being trendy and hip, pornography, brainwashing whites with their relentless barrage of white guilt and their demonization of any display of white racial pride, churning out endless ‘holocaust’ movies, constantly harping on Hitler and those ‘awful’ Nazis, conspiring to manipulate White nations into fighting endless wars that benefit only Israel and which get thousands of mostly white combat troops killed, or wounded, or dusted with Depleted Uranium, pushing Cultural Marxism 24/7, producing diabolically evil movies like ‘Roots’ or ‘Machete’, or the soon to be released movie ‘Django Unchained’ – all of which are deliberately designed to arouse and inflame non-whites with hatred of white people, efforts which will certainly increase the number of violent attacks on whites by minorities. Then there is the jewish lead left who relentlessly seeks to confiscate ever increasing portions of the dwindling paychecks of white middle class tax payers in their endless income redistribution programs and use that money to subsidize the irresponsible breeding habits of our non-white ethnic competitors, which has the reverse effect of helping to lower the ability of white families to afford to have more white children.
Oh, and let us not overlook the Affirmative Action oriented, government sanctioned discrimination against primarily white males and the deliberate attempt to disenfranchise the White Male, as was recently discussed in an article which appeared in the Wall Street Journal on May 11th. Has everyone had a chance to watch the new video by Brother Nathanael Kapner titled: “The ADL’s War on White America”?
(Found here: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=634)
I highly recommend this video.
News Flash: “White Culture” is and has been primarily based on the principles of Christianity and Christian morality, people. And, it isn’t necessary for all White people to be regular, life-time, dedicated Church goers in order for them to fall into line and follow the general White Culture ‘template’ that has made our Western Culture so successful, up until the last 40 or 50 years. The key, however, is to expose young white children to Christianity at an early age and that exposure will usually ‘take hold’ and they will be taught right from wrong and learn valuable lessons that will help guide them throughout their lives. The jew understands this fact and they know how important it is to grab a hold of our white children at an early age, and start poisoning their little impressionable minds with their decadence and anti-white garbage. Hence, now the jew is pushing homosexuality to our elementary school age kids as part of their ‘teaching tolerance’ Cultural Marxist, anti-white agenda. This effort to teach young white kids about homosexuality is an effort to brainwash them into abandoning their Christian teachings on this topic, which incidentally, does not condone it.
So, as I said – the goal of the jew is to genocide the White race. White Homosexuals do not have cute little white babies. This reduces the white birth rate. This also reduces the ability of the normal Whites to preserve ‘white culture’ and to expand their racial numbers and carry on their genetic lineage.
With fewer white babies being born who won’t grow up to be young white adults, the existing white men and women will therefore have fewer mating and marriage opportunities with other white men and women, and therefore more susceptible to race mixing – which is the jewish agenda.
What is so difficult to understand about this, folks?
“It is astounding that so few people have removed their blinkers. Mine were ripped off early for a very good reason. Being Jewish, White and a gay – one strikingly similar to the Jews though with significant differences…. Like Jews, gays have ancient roots of persecution and have been mostly outcast since the rise of Christianity (though the roots of persecution, ironically, are in the Torah). This persecution complex – I know it first hand – leaves a indelible mark on one’s character – defiance of a hypocritical, unjust society, a desire for revenge, a feeling of superiority and lack of patriotism,” Simon Jones.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/israelis-and-gays-birds-of-a-feather/
Why is every-one arguing with “winston”? It’s obviously here to troll, and waste time. Do’t waste time with JIDF trolls!
Yes, what a waste of time. Obviously he hasn’t read MacDonald.
Exactly! “Winston” (or his/her/it’s internet persona) claims to have intimate knowledge of gays and Jews vis-à-vis “Rabbinical luncheons” and other social interactions. Since he/she/it has made their “tribe”/bias quite clear, why feed the troll?
At last! Thank you, Ciaran and especially Hans. Thank you very, very much. I was starting to wonder whether anyone was going to express impatience with the tiresome, self-important commenters who—in the typical “all self-esteem all the time” mode shoved down our throat for sixty years and more by our Hebraic masters—have been insisting that the rest of us reinvent the wheel for them because they are too bloody lazy to look beyond the reflecting pool of their own complaisance.
Indeed, Hans, not only haven’t Winston, John Hearns, and their fellows read MacDonald, they appear not to have read anything published on this topic that seemingly wasn’t hand-delivered to them within the last hour or two. While even habitués of this website, TOO, might be slow to contend that it is an unimpeachably reliable source of wisdom and insight—pace the truly laudable efforts of Professor M., Mr. Graham, Mr. Parrott, Professor Darkmoon, et alii (not to mention my new hero John Schretenthaler) and not excluding the several extremely lucid commenters—were Winston and seemingly countless like-minded others merely to spend half a day perusing the enormous wealth of archived articles and comments here, they wouldn’t (Deo volente!) be quite so quick to waste everyone’s time with their spoiled-child insistence that their immature questions get full and immediate answers. And just as a real-world spoiled child screams and yells when its demands aren’t instantly met, so too our cyberbrats wreck our peace of mind with the endless prattle of their multiple posts.
The bottom line in this discussion is that if you fail to see (1) that gay marriage is something between a frontal assault on the foundations of Western culture and a moral abomination of the first water and (2) that recognizing the factual accuracy of Mr. Graham’s article about it and its Tribal supporters requires only a pair of functioning eyes, you need to subject yourself to a root-and-branch overhaul of your mental processes and, a fortiori, your character before you are in a position even to consider commenting intelligently hereabouts. Then you need to start cracking the books.
Right now, millions (probably) of people are using google to find out about Dominique Strauss-Kahn. This is a great time to publish some belligerent stuff about him and the crowd he travels in.
Can’t we be honest with ourselves? We have trashed traditional marriage, it is hard to defend the current state of affairs. But many of us who are willing to be tolerant of homosexuality resist when it is demanded that we affirm it. We are tired of being bullied by the Jewish, liberal elite.
You won’t get any arguments from me, Ms. Alice. I agree with you 100%.
New Jew. Old Jew. Same old Jew:
Strauss-Kahn to be replaced by another Jew named “John” Lipsky.
Professor MacDonald, can you please shut up JIDF winston, jason speak, john hearns and the likes? Follow-up discussion on this site became unbearable/unreadable.
out of 79 comments (at time of my reading): 19 from winston, 17 from jason speaks, 20 from john hearns.
So almost 56 (75%) comments come from trolls . I personally think that they are the same person or couple of jew-kiddies. OO is being infested badly.
At least change the comment format to “forum format” so users have to register to post, and can be put on ‘ignore list’. VNN forum format is a good way to deal with JIDF trolls.
I personally stopped reading discussions afterwards for that reason. Please don’t let them take over your site.
It is ridiculous to classify Jason Speaks and John Hearns as Trolls. Both made valuable observations. I do not see how one can fault the first Jason Speaks posting on this thread:
“Jews, religious or not, are obsessed with opposing Christian or White Gentile culture. This zeal actually seems strongest among the non-religious Jews.”
In this kind of dispute one must appreciate allies and not demand Clones.
As for “Winston” – well, the frothily vituperative logic-chopping fact-impervious thug is a familiar figure on this battlefield. Up to a point they have to be answered. A large part of the Jewish conquests in intellectual life have been won simply by bullying. Many of our brethren dislike fighting. Some have not thought enough about the issues and can be swayed by glib sloganeering.
To “Winston” I say
• Your wish that the OO editor had repressed me is “typical” because that is how Jews handle controversy. Kevin Macdonald has discussed this well at http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/090511_hate_crimes_prevention_bill.htm
• Yes, I am very impressed by this group of Jews putting $1Mm so quickly into this tangential issue. It is a reproach – possibly lethal – that wealthy white Christians will not spend like this. Partly it stems from many years massive repression and intimidation, so that they are afraid to even consider their own ethnic interests. But partly it stems, as Kevin MacDonald has extensively discussed, from the atomistic and non-communitarian tradition they inherited: they make good pioneers but poor political police.
• With the Robert Rubin Financial Asset bubble having put so much more liquid wealth into the hands of an over-confident generation of indiscreetly domineering Jews, the rest of us face the prospect of the political process being even more distorted to fit the predilections of this hostile elite.
How to defend ourselves is a problem. A first step is to clearly identify the arrival of Jewish money, and to consistently point out this money is not being spent for the benefit of true Americans.
‘jason speaks’ persona is the “smartest” jidf troll of them all. very slippery and quite often says the “right things” to get others in the groove. His other two+ sock puppets (winston and john hearns) are not.
Don’t underestimate joo-obfuscation.
I personally don’t care about any of them as long as i have ‘ignore list’.
Mr. Graham,
“frothily vituperative logic-chopping fact-impervious thug”
Seems everyone who disagrees with you is a thug. Strange that if you have all the good arguments you so often resort to name calling as a sole response to your critics and opponents. You must be very young. Reminds me of the tactics of the “objectivists” I used to run into in the ’60′s….. And I would have enjoyed the luxury of being fact-impervious, had you bothered to present any relevant facts in a coherent manner that supported your vile conclusions.
And no, I am not Jewish. Never have been. Never even considered it.
In fact, you should know that I am a financial contributor to this website!
And I am not now, nor have I ever been a close personal friend of Mehlman or any of those other guys whose character you so recklessly assassinated.
In fact, quite the opposite.
You are correct that gay marriage is a trivial issue. I believe we both oppose it (though I’m guessing you will change sides should the Jews decide that it’s not a good idea after all).
These few like-minded individuals related by business and social links coming up with a measly $1M to advance their personal and family related cause is hardly remarkable apart from the political party they support. Their actions do not constitute “bigotry and brute force” no matter how ill-advised the policy they advocate.
To ascribe to these men, misguided as they may be, “an insatiable and ferocious lust to eradicate the Christian aspects of the culture” reveals your complete ignorance of these men and what clearly motivated them. This charge and your words are so over-the-top and hyperbolic that I still can’t believe the OO editor published your libel.
Perhaps someday you will discover that your child or grandchild is gay. Perhaps you will still hold them close and want to protect them from the consequences of their gay identity, and foolishly join an organization or contribute some money to the cause of gay acceptance….because you love your child and can’t stand to see them suffer. That’s what these guys were/are all about here – not some sinister Jewish attempt to undercut white Christian culture. And my guess is that your $5 contribution to PFLAG or whatever would have the same financial impact on your life as a $100K donation by one of the victims of your smear.
To those who have pointed out that the gay rights movement/gay marriage movement is Jewish dominated, I must admit that I had never considered or noticed this. I will make it a point to find out if it is true.
Not banning these trolls immediately was a mistake. They are just gaining experience in how to blend in and gain trust so that they cause problems more effectively. Sort of a microcosm of Jewish behavior in society.
John Graham wrote: “Your wish that the OO editor had repressed me is “typical” because that is how Jews handle controversy.”
“Is it true?” is the central thesis of every major relgion I can think of. The central thesis of Judaism (and it’s not a religion. It’s a cult) is “Is it good for the Jews?” This is precisely the reason that most Jews can never look beyond their rabbis or their own small group for philosophic input. They might discover that there’s no more truth to the myths of Moses, Abraham and “the chosen people” than Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.
Professor MacDonald, can you please shut up ak and the likes ?
He’s calling people ridiculous names and he whines too much . He’s also not appreciating the good postings of the others and wants to dictate to all the rules of discussion .
On second thought , don’t shut him up , that would be censorship . Just tell him ak that he is free to post as much and as often as his lil’ heart desires .
@ John Graham
[ It is ridiculous to classify Jason Speaks and John Hearns as Trolls. Both made valuable observations. ]
Yeah thanks bud , some posts may not have been nuggets of profound enlightenment , but I think some of the posts were worthwhile , while possibly some of us were a bit ‘ post happy ‘ . Oh well .
Also , well written article .
I am shocked that anyone would disagree with your premise , and on OO of all places . I thought we all were more or less on the same page on these sorts of matters , let alone the same book .
Censorship pertains only to acts of government- coercive acts.
James Sanchez of EAIF looked through a list of the Presidents of the 125 largest gay organizations in the country. 100 of those Presidents had Jewish names.
For yeard I have noticed that Jews are as prominient in the gay movement as they were in the communist party of the USA and the NAACP before 1970.
I neither know nor car why Jews run the gay organizations, but I know that it is true. Just look at the names of every gay organization and press release.
[ Censorship pertains only to acts of government- coercive acts. ]
Censorship is not defined as being applicable to acts of government exclusively .
Not at all .
@ winston
[ I think your opinion of the GOP needs updating. It is not a party dedicated to the preservation of traditional American culture…..where were you during ’89-’92 and ’01-’09? ]
Wow , what a revelation .
Not .
It has not been a party for the POTAC for probably near a century .
The issue here is that the repubs were assumed to at least feign some support for cultural conservatives and to be a little less supportive of radical in the looney leftism of zionist occupied america .
But , apparently now more than ever , that is not the case with these recent arrival very rich but sincere bleeding heart innocent activists who care so deeply for the poor gays who want to get hitched and do the white picket fence thing .
It says volumes that you were not aware of jewish involvement in gay activism . How can you be aware of jewish cultural subversion and not connect those dots ?
@ ak
[ jason speaks’ persona is the “smartest” jidf troll of them all. very slippery and quite often says the “right things” to get others in the groove. His other two+ sock puppets (winston and john hearns) are not.
Don’t underestimate joo-obfuscation.
I personally don’t care about any of them as long as i have ‘ignore list’. ]
winston is no dummy either . Badly misguided , yes , but he seems quite smart .
Me ? I’m just a dummy and that’s ok . Dummies sometimes can ” keep it simple stupid ” and dumb people tend to be happier because they take enjoyment out of simple things , like just rolling over on the carpet for hours on end can be very fun .
Any hoo , did you even bother to read my posts ? You couldn’t have , could you ? I find it very strange that you would call me a jew troll unless you did not bother to read them .
I think that you should be careful about making false accusations . It just causes confusion and it is subversive to the spirit of this forum .
In any case , you can always just ignore . You do that . Be my guest .
LOL “ak” is too obvious. I notice he uses the term phrase “joo”. The last person that did that extensively was a weird little disruptor called The White Angel that endlessly ran down the founding fathers. Coincidence? Maybe, but something doesn’t seem right. It is amazing how many people feel the need to disrupt this site.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn is for some reason currently unable to work as head of IMF, so a new acting president has been named, John Lipsky. A commenter somewhere noted his face looks a bit similar to DSK, is he also a Frenchman?
I noticed they took him out of first class on the airplane, and he was staying in a 3000 buck a night hotel suite. I guess what you guys have said about jews raping the IMF are true after all, and with multiple meanings.
Do any of you conspiracy lovers think he was set up?
“Frenchman” Dominique Stauss-Kahn,the millionair-socialist head of the IMF,who had hoped to become president of France,is of mixed Ashkenazi-Sephardic Jewish descent. He is a financial globalist,in politics his main passion is Israel,and as a good patriotic Frenchman he warmly advocates the RUIN of France by unlimited coloured immigration.In his private life he is a sexual predator.Whether this latest sexual scandal (he has had more) is real or a set-up by his rival (part-Jew) Sarkozy is not clear.His substitute John Lipsky is an Ashkenazi-Jewish American with a long career in banking.So Jew replaces Jew and nothing changes.
Dear Scooter: One person who makes a case for at least the plausibility of a setup is Robert Wenzel over at the Economic Policy Journal site (I saw the article courtesy of an LRC link). I know nothing about Wenzel, including any racial/ethnic axes he may have to grind, but he does point up the sheer oddness of the circumstances and the unlikelihood that a hyper-rich guy used to getting what he wants would waste his time with someone like his accuser.
Be it noted that I carry no brief for Strauss-Kahn, nor do I see any reason to bemoan his downfall, if downfall it is to be. Yet everything about the story smells funny, not least the prominent play it’s been getting. Implausibility doesn’t trump facts, of course, but as with most stories peddled by the MSM, facts presented about this incident have so far been in very short supply.
The set up scenario still does not look very likely to me.
First, for a rich guy womanizing (and with rough methods) that much, it was inevitable that sooner or later a woman will raise (well-founded or unfounded) rape charges against him. So one needn’t have a setup here.
Second, the woman of course might be lying. She is African, and that says a lot about her expected brain capacity. (As an aside, one needn’t use words like Negro to sound pejorative. LOL) So the lies might not even be very intelligent lies. But given the feminist laws in the US, the charges will be pressed nevertheless, and it might be difficult for DSK. (I know that in the UK, actually the accused male has to kind of disprove the charges…)
That’s what I think sitting at my desk. But that’s just theory. As Goethe said, “grau, teurer Freund, ist alle Theorie, und grün des Lebens goldner Baum” (“grey is all theory, my friend, and green is the golden tree of life”), so I guess anything is possible.
“More likely the motive is straight out of Kevin MacDonald’s analysis – an insatiable and ferocious lust to eradicate the Christian aspects of the culture of their host, regardless of the fruits it has allowed them to reap.”
Indeed; since Justin Raimondo and myself have tirelessly blogged on the absurdity and outright stupidity of “gay marriage;” since gm [genetically modified? No, 'gay marriage'] provides no benefits over civil union, the goal is obviously to give a sharp poke in the eye to the goyim.
Also, since there seems to be some confusion here in the comments on this, let me explain: I call it The Judaic Two-step. The Jew always wins, because they control both sides of the debate.
Aryan culture is based on the Mannerbund, male warrior bands [see Baron Evola]. The Jews are unique in trying, obviously unsuccessfully, to base a culture on “family values” [sound familiar?].
For 2000 years, the Jews have boasted of “teaching morality to the pagans”, ie, inculcating homophobia ["No homo!"] through their Christian sock puppets, thus making all male associations suspect [read the review of 300 or Fight Club], thus smashing the foundations of Western Culture. The results: homo-free Kansas City. Like Mencken, I choose Athens.
Having succeeded so far, the Jew then CHANGES SIDES. After Stonewall, the Jew Left created a fake, phony ‘gay’ identity to enlist the talents and money of what should have been Aryan culture creators in the struggle, instead, of ‘victims’ against ‘oppression’.
Heads they win, tails we lose.
See my blog, generally, and in particular the late English New Rightist Alisdair Clarke: http://tinyurl.com/3ug9uc2
Power-mad, diaspora Jews are usually contrarian to whatever traditionalist paradigm holds power that they covet and is resistance to Jewish infiltration and subordination. Hence, they will tenaciously oppose traditional [“anti-Semitic”] Christians, but not so much Judeo-Christian Zionist. They will tenaciously oppose traditional conservatives, but not so much neocon conservatives. Their main goal is to break the traditional power structure and replace its leadership with themselves. They have no real morals or ethics when it comes to this process, and I suspect that even highly religious Talmudic Jews would support using gay marriage to break any hostile, rival non-Jewish power structure if at least part of its agenda was to gain Jewish power.
Hence the Jewish Ken Mehlman who would not be tolerated in any conservative party in Israel would likely gain sanction from Israeli rabbis for doing what he is doing in the U.S. because it is part and parcel of breaking the traditional [“anti-Semitic”] Christian order with an agenda of replacing it with the Judeofascist power structure.
The ethnocentric Jew Mehlman is thus able to reconcile his Jewish supremacist identity with his homosexual identity, and while his homosexual identity might be tolerated in Israel right now, it wouldn’t be in the long run as the Judeofascist rabbis and Pharisees gain more and more power. And he unquestionably would NEVER be allowed in a plank-formulating leadership position of any conservative party in Israel.
In fact, he would be run out of such a party on a rail, and he most likely knows this. But that doesn’t stop him from pro-gay-marriage agitation in the U.S. on the one hand, and an Israel-first agenda on the other, because he knows he’s serving the interests of Jewish power by helping to break a traditional non-Jewish power structure outside of Israel.
All of this is what makes not only the Judeofascists, but their non-Jewish collaborators the most poisonous, destructive enemies of Western civilization known to man. Vis-à-vis the latter, any other traditionalist, pro-Western or Western conservative position these cads might take is more than outweighed by their Faustian willingness to collaborate with the Judeofascist predators.
In fact, they may even be worse than the Judeofascists because they often successfully pass themselves off as Christian and Western partisans, even as they cynically facilitate the most anti-Christian, anti-Western snakes ever known to man.
All of this is a perfect example of what I call the Jewish “dual-strategy”-morality:
one set of morals for the in-group,but an opposite set for the out-group.
I have noticed a very large Jewish component in the homosexual movement, I refuse to use their ‘gay’ agit-prop term. I believe that same sex, like 99.99% of the activities I find totally repugnant, should be decriminalized.
But that’s it. Tolerance yes, sanctioning it NO.
I think there’s a large, nasty Jewish streak to just the contrary opinion for opinion’s sake.
This runs from Ayn Rand Objectivists over to Maoist Communists and all shades in between.
If they think the goyim is agin it, they are for it and vice-versa. It’s no more complex than that.
The Left attributes everything to environment and too many people here attribute everything to genes.
How about faulty epistemology as an explanation ?
Yeah wow, a usurious bankster also has weird sexual fetishes. Oy, these people are predictable. Did the maid make it out with both her kidneys?
It’s sort of odd that with respect to homosexuality, that’s the one area where you have ‘rationalists’ demanding that people NOT use the scientific term. They won’t even permit one to call a fidgety kid fidgety (but ADHD), but ‘gay’ is the proper word?
Athanasius: You may not know quite how right you are. Until two or three years ago, publishers of academic and scholastic reference materials (i.e., encyclopedias and book series) invariably incorporated a ban on “gay” meaning “homosexual” in their stylistic guidelines. (Of course, they also mandated use of BCE and CE and banned BC and AD, but that’s another matter, sadly.) All that has changed, however, and many (not yet all) of those publishers either mandate “gay” or do not disallow it. I know of at least one publisher (Sage) that outlaws “homosexual” outright.
In such a context and such a world, can the merely fidgety or (as in my case) the cranky, crotchety, and grumpy reasonably expect to escape faux-medicalization?
Speaking as someone who is viscerally repulsed by the thought of homosexuality, I nonetheless fail to see this as a pressing concern for whites. The problems facing Western Europe do not come from Europes’s tolerance of gays. It is the intolerant, crime-prone, and religiously zealous non-white immigrants who pose a real and immediate problem. The Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was gay and was also an ally of the anti-immigration movement in Holland. The issue of homosexuality is mostly a distraction imo.
“We are Jews and we are powerful – therefore, we can infiltrate into every foreign land but Goyim cannot infiltrate to our occupied Palestine,” Eretz Israel.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/israel-only-jews-have-the-right-to-infiltrate-arab-lands/
Some idealistic Jews ditch their loyally to the Jewish state out of moral disgust. Christian convert Mordechai Vanunu heroically revealed the existence of Israel’s nuclear weapons.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn continues to unravel. Did he think his fellow Jews could keep the crimes he committed quiet forever?
Kahn was a rival to Sarkozy, another Jew.
If we can just bring America back to Jesus and the Gospel, the Jews will go running scared. Never mind the fact that Christians are philo-Semites and the biggest enablers of the Jewish agenda.
Praise the Lord.
@Z.O.Gster I think Jews are the biggest enablers of the Jewish agenda. Moreover, non-Christian whites are securely fastened to leftist tribe ideology and blindly follow Ed Schwartz on MSNBC while believing illegals to be rightful participants in the American dream.LMAO White non-Christian youth blindly howl in laughter at the marxist, Anti-American sarcasm spewed by Jon Stewart. Stewart couldn’t be happier with his loyal band of secular humanist, deeply indoctrinated, targets of billion dollar ad campaigns, white goy puppets who laugh at every one of his hook-nosed jokes. And his Goy puppet Stephen Colbert follows with his “paid prostitute” performance, bending over for the crowd to get a cheap laugh.
Also why does Hollywood piously attack Christianity? Why go after your strongest supporter? I mean if Christianity is such a Jewish enabler it would be protected in the media. Hollywood is not mysterious in its beliefs. It is pro-communist, pro-choice, pro-vice, pro-porn, pro-homosexual, pro-diversity, and anti-christian: Yet Christianity is the big enabler. Zoggy baby, cmon…
How does Christian doctrine differ from Marxist/leftist ideology? They are both essentially the same, i.e. they are both based on radical egalitarianism.
There’s no question marxism is a perverse distortion of Christianity. I’m not going to deny that Christianity has a very strong egalitarian impulse.
Two points:
1) Marxism is irredeemably materialistic. Christianity is the antithesis of this. It is probably for this reason that–
2) Christianity upholds the nuclear family, whereas marxism views people as economic units that must be controlled by the state.
Christianity upholds the nuclear family? Rabbi Jesus says just the opposite:
Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:21
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:34
For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:35
Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:51
From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:52
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:53
Jews were just as much a problem for the ancient Hellenistic Greeks and the imperial Romans, centuries before Christianity even existed. The Jewish problem really has nothing to do with religion per se, despite what the evangelical Christian writers on TOO would have you believe.
Jews are a biological problem, not a cultural one.
Not all biological Jews are evil. Those that legitimately convert to Christianity have fit in with rather than undermine their host societies.
Amen Edward, conversion of jews to Christianity is something I support. I also support conversion of all the other races, and wish they would stay in their own God given countries, with their own cultures.
Tower of Babel, anyone?
Bless you, Scooter. I couldn’t have said it better myself, not in a million years. And the Lord knows—along with everyone else—that I would never have said it half so succinctly!
Oh yes, converting Jews to Christianity is a great idea. After all, it has worked so well in the past and has a terrific track record.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn ?
When I hear of a big jew being in trouble then I often suspect that he got himself in trouble with an even bigger jew , or jews , and so he is possibly being purged from the jewtocracy . An inside thing .
Perhaps like Eliot Spitzer who got in trouble for investigating the banksters.
Could the centuries-long inbreeding in the shtetl be responsible for their predisposition for pederasty, among other numerous pathologies ?
In terms of Ken Mehlman , the guy’s gayer than a stack of Liza Minnelli records.
Censorship is exclusively defined as a government action legally. We know all sorts of venues do not publish things they disagree with and censorship is a convenient word to use in response but legally it is totally without merit.
Spitzer was a loudmouth statist-collectivist who got in trouble because of his low morals, nothing else.
Same appears to be true with the IMF ex-chief, we don’t need to read more into it.
What is it with Jews and homosexuality? Could it be that homosexuality is the Jews’ true secret weapon against White and Christian-heritage society? The true essence of what they wish to bring?
I have been reading “The Pink Swastika” and the “The Hidden Hitler.” It turns out that pro-gay movements began in Germany, with their first major exponent a Jew. And even though Nazism turns out to be basically created by homosexuals and riddle with them, the Jewish-dominated media has filtered that out since at least the 1960s. Why would they do that? Often in the past the smear of homosexuality/perversity has been readily used by Jews against opponents. Yet they’ve not wanted to push that obvious button regarding the one they most want to demonize: Hitler. (And Hitler himself, it turns out, was most likely a homosexual.)
It makes you really stop to think.
The good news is:
1) The destruction of Germany and loss of the Germans now makes much more cosmic sense.
2) Germans, Germany, and White racialism can now be extracted away from Hitler and the nazis, because the revelation of the basic homosexual nature of the Nazis will set up a natural fracture line.
3) Now that the tribe has demonized Hitler/nazis 24-7 for 65 years, it is quite easy to discredit the gay movement simply by exposing the butch-gay truth about the Nazis. And maybe doing that, and setting back that corruption, is the most important thing of all.
Here’s a start:
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
The great oddity is that the butch-gays who created Nazism were said to be anti-Jew partly because traditional Jews were decidely anti-gay, and a reservoir of what came to be Judeo-Christian morality. It is said that the Torah Jews’ animus toward homosexuality was a factor in the Nazis’ animus toward Jews.
Yet now look at the more recent past! Jews have been the overwhelming players in the promotion and normalization of homosexuality! So what’s the deal here? Did they change? Now go back and look at the fact that the first major gay-promoter in Germany was a Jew, and it makes you think and wonder.
My view is that the corruption that homosexuality is, and especially the destruction it will do to the natural family and our understanding of of natural parent-child bonds, is the greatest danger, and the greatest evil, that White nations now face.
Julian Lee, you’re so full of crap your eyes are brown.
You’re a two bit con-man who cheats people out of their hard earned money in order to make a living. You have no credibility.
The Pink Swastika and its jewish author have been debunked for years. Don’t fall for it.
Nazis hated jews because Nazis were gay and jews were anti-gay? Come on now. Yet this is basically the thesis of the Pink Swastika. Ridiculous. Jews gave Germans (and everyone else) plenty of tangible reasons to hate them. Leviticus’ anti-’abomination’ stance had nothing to do with it.
The myth that the Fuhrer was light in the loafers is just another CofC attempt to utilize negative association to scare the goyim away from thinking about employing anti-jew pro-gentile survival strategies that work.
There are many point-by-point demolitions of Abrams’ revisionism online. Check ‘em out.
Then read Irving, Kershaw, Toland, or Kubizek instead.
Hitler was most probably not a homosexual himself. He had affairs with a number of women, and he spent the last decade or so of his life in a monogamous heterosexual relationship with a woman. He simply didn’t want to make it public knowledge (he wouldn’t have liked the tabloids being full of stories of the marriage of the Führer…), and he also didn’t want children for himself because he thought – probably correctly – that it would be difficult for any children to grow up with such a father.
Most likelihood all the stories anyone can read about the Führer having been gay, pervert, sadistic, masochistic, fetishist, etc: everything like that is pure bullshit. He was probably a quite normal man regarding his sexuality.
Before someone give ‘high-five’ to Barack Obama for his support for a Palestine state – he should know that Benji Netanyahu has already rejected Obama’s vision of a demilitarized Palestinian state based on the 1967 borders. He should also keep in mind the fact that it’s not the politician at the Capitol Hill who rule America but the ones in Knesset.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/obamas-latest-deception/
[ Spitzer was a loudmouth statist-collectivist who got in trouble because of his low morals, nothing else.
Same appears to be true with the IMF ex-chief, we don’t need to read more into it. ]
You have must be delusional if you think that low morals is an offense for these people or that these low morals would make them vulnerable to prosecution like the little people are .
[ We know all sorts of venues do not publish things they disagree with and censorship is a convenient word to use in response but legally it is totally without merit. ]
That’s debatable and not worth debating .
The use of the word ” censorship ” is not a legal issue .
We are not weasel lawyers , we are posting , we are not making legal documents .
[ Spitzer was a loudmouth statist-collectivist who got in trouble because of his low morals, nothing else.
Same appears to be true with the IMF ex-chief, we don’t need to read more into it. ]
It’s like : ” Hey , what’s our next major war ? Will it be packistan or Iran ? I think we should start with a call for tougher sanctions at the UN . We’ll starve a few hundred thousand to soften them up first , then we will freeze their assets globally and devalue their currency ”
Ooops , better put the plans on hold boys ,
Kahn just got busted for sexual harassment . Just when things were going so well , what rotten timing that is ! “
[ The great oddity is that the butch-gays who created Nazism were said to be anti-Jew partly because traditional Jews were decidely anti-gay, and a reservoir of what came to be Judeo-Christian morality. It is said that the Torah Jews’ animus toward homosexuality was a factor in the Nazis’ animus toward Jews. ]
And here I was thinking that Hitler came to power in defense of Germany against the same global nation wrecking forces that have America and much of the world well it it’s grip today and the subject of this very site .
And now I learn that the second world war was really all about a bunch german panzies who wanted to create a non-stop homo orgy ?
Wow , you learn something new every day .
A few days ago, Shimon Samuels, the Wiesenthal centre’s director for international relations had sent a letter to country’s caretaker Prime Minister Yves Leterme, asking him to sack his Justice Minister Stefaan De Clerck for calling for amnesty for Belgians who may have collaborated with Nazis. “De Clerck to be promptly removed from his ministry, his party and shunned from the political arena. To remain silent would be perceived as complicit in De Clerk’s apparent endorsement of genocide,” wrote Shimon Samuels.
De Clerck’s remarks which shook Israeli foundation, were: “Perhaps we should be willing to forget, because it is the past. At some point one has to be adult and be willing to talk about. perhaps to forget, because this is the past”.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/belgian-storm-in-zionist-eyes/
Have you forgotten the **Nakba**, Rehmat?
“A lot of gay men who don’t want to get married on an individual level do want other gay men to get married.
This is because seeing even a small number of gay men get married sends the message out to the public, and especially to the young, that we live in a society that views homosexuality as being equal in value to heterosexuality.
Also there’s the issue that a society which values homosexuality as much as heterosexuality is likely to have more on the fence youth go gay.
This makes it easier for the existing homosexual population to find youthful sex partners.”
There may be some truth in this. There may also be some truth in the fact that so many Jews are pushing gay marriage, because this is another way they can harass/annoy/humble White European Christian Fundamentalists.
I’m sure there are no small number of “Usual Suspects” who want a gay version of the interracial “Loving” marital issue to be mandated by the Supreme Court so every gay activist couple out there can descend like a plague of locusts on Christian fundamentalist churches and demand that they be married or slap them with a civil rights lawsuit.
The way we nip that nonsense in the bud is we get government out of marriage altogether. Mandate the government to only issue civil unions and grandfather all past civil marriages as civil unions. This way, we can leave it up to churches, temples, mosques, and synagogues to determine who they will and will not marry. We pursue this as a separation of church and state. Marriage is a religious sacrament. The government never had any business being involved.
AFAIC, White Japhethites should be tolerant of homosexuality, because homophobia is a Semitic taboo. White Western civilizations did not suffer because Whites tolerated homosexuals; they went to hell in a hand basket when they moved from Republics that relied on their own labor to relying on slave labor, particularly Non-White slave labor.
Gay marriage — in fact ALL marriage — sanctioned by government needs to be avoided, but pushing for civil unions for everybody is NOT going to end marriage as we know it. Traditional people will still go to a religious organization to have God as they know Him bless their union.
Moreover, the best way to keep gays from recruiting any of our young who might be sitting on the fence is to instill them with strong religious, moral values. That means you get your rear into gear rather than stay in bed on Sundays and you take them to church.
You can discourage any homosexual experimentation just like you discourage any interracial dating. You need to talk to and train your kids.
That said, WNists need to choose their battles wisely. As pointed out, homosexuals are very well off financially, and aggressive about pursuing their agendas politically. As the only protected White group left with these hate crimes laws, it is not worth our while to publicly discriminate against them.
It doesn’t hurt our cause to allow them to be seen as respectable members of our society. We should encourage them to couple up and get married via civil unions (and by any private church that wants to marry them). By doing so, we neutralize a powerful weapon against us.
We need all the White allies we can get and we should really stop making a point of alienating every one we can by some weird purist, narrow ideological criteria. I don’t care what religion a White is, if he is pro-White or what his sexual orientation is as long as he is advancing White agendas.
One of America’s major Jewish Israel lobby organization, Anti-Defamation League (ADL), has blasted ‘Foreskin Man’ comic book’s circumcision images, depicting Mohel (a Jewish person trained in the practice of Brit milah or circumcision) as ‘monster’ looking.
The colorful series was created by the “intactivist” group MGMBill.org as part of its campaign to ban circumcision through ballot initiatives.
Nancy J. Appel, ADL associate regional director has claimed that the comin book invokes the centuries-old western accusation of ‘Blood Libel’ that Jews kill Christian kids and use their blood for religious ritual. Interestingly, an Israeli Jewish professor Ariel Toaff (Bar-Ilan University) in his book Bloody Passover: Jews of Europe and Ritual Homicide (2007) has admitted that certain Jewish communities in Europe committed those crimes…..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/adl-foreskin-man-comic-book-is-anti-semitic/