For years I was after this book. Each time I checked, however, Amazon had the paperback edition listed for ridiculous prices, well into the triple-digit range.
At last Greg Johnson came along, contacted the author, and organised a new edition of this long-out-of-print dystopian novel through his imprint, Counter-Currents. It is now in print, and orders are being filled.
Ward Kendall’s Hold Back This Day follows an identifiable pattern in American dystopian fiction dealing with the current prospects for the White race. We are taken to a future after the 2070s, when the forces of egalitarianism have triumphed almost completely, the world government having nearly completed the project of ending war by homogenising the human race. In this future, planet Earth is populated by 19,000,000,000 people, all converging towards a medium shade of brown, almost all of indeterminate race.
History has been re-written, erasing the White man from its annals. If the White man is mentioned in any way, it is as a paradigm of evil: the White race was the most malevolent that had ever existed, having enslaved other races, grown wealthy at their expense, and appropriated their achievements. Its extinction was to be welcome, and the achievement of that extinction the accomplishment of a grand humanist mission, designed to propel humanity towards a more elevated era of brotherhood and equality.
Some Whites still exist, however, and one of them is the main character, Jeff Huxton, a school teacher. Needless to say that he is deeply depressed, ridden with shame and self-hatred. All the same, he is able to hold a job, and enjoy some privileges, thanks to his position, which involves destroying racial identity through education and fomenting racial extinction through the encouragement of miscenegation. (Other Whites are essentially non-persons.) Needless to say also that his White son, Adam, product of a frowned-upon marriage with another White woman and former wife, eventually evolves from bright child to embittered teenager, half-psychotic with contained rage, self-loathing, and clinical depression.
When the story begins, Jeff is married to Li Ming, his second wife, of Asian origin but otherwise racially ambiguous. Later she turns out to be selfish, duplicitous, and basely malicious. Likewise, his daughter, product of this marriage, later becomes involved in a state-sponsored genocidal enterprise.
Jeff exists in a global economy, which has meant being stationed in various regions of the planet over time. One of the worst was North America. When the action begins, he is about to take up a new position in Africa.
Jeff’s boss is Ahmad Yehudit, a corpulent man of medium brown skin, racially neutral, confusing even, whom we visualise more or less as a mulatto. Like most of the other characters, he has a weirdly incongruous name-surname combination; he also professes the world religion, which is mix of all religions, but which also has recognisable Islamic features and in conversation results in comically incongruous expressions.
As the story develops, Ahmad is promoted and enters the privileged circle of the world rulers. The world they preside over is one of universal poverty, authoritarian governance, crumbling infrastructure, hunger-suppressing pills, covert mass killings, and scientific regression. Indeed, the project of racially homogenising humanity has had the predictable effect of lowering global IQ and thus of making it progressively harder to maintain (let alone advance) a technological civilisation. It is Richard Lynn’s worst case scenario.
And not unexpectedly, we discover that the governing class, comprised mostly of individuals with the ideal skin tone 5, live in obscene luxury, albeit well hidden from view, for justifiably paranoid reasons. They are, of course, thoroughly corrupt, cognisant of their lies and uninterested in the future of humanity; their sole preoccupation is the perpetuation of their rule and the continued enjoyment of their hypocritical privileges.
There is some hope, though, for there exists an underground resistance movement. Its members have links with an offplanet colony, which represents the White race’s last hope. The novel is set up to bring these two opposing forces into conflict. We can think of it, therefore, as an interplanetary race war, where the entire future of humanity is at stake, not just that of a single country or continent.
Kendall is adept at maintaining a suspenseful narrative. As the novel progresses and the stakes rise, it becomes ever more difficult to put the novel down. And even where the good guys score a victory, the consequences are depressing, disastrous, and prospects grow ever grimmer. In the end, we one cannot decide whether we could call the outcome a victory or a defeat. It is traumatic. For Kendall, it seems, the price that would have to be paid, should things be allowed to get this far, will be horrific, the end result catastrophic, the loss outweighing any wins.
In various ways this is superior to other popular novels I have read in this genre. It is certainly better than Scott Wilson’s Utopia-X, which contains a number of similar features (browbeaten Whites, malevolent browns, privileged Blacks, squalor, and a monstrous deception by a corrupt ruling class of anti-White racists); and although shorter and simpler plotwise, it has a more in-depth and astutely observant characterisation than Randolph Calverhall’s Serpent’s Walk.
There are some minor flaws. In 212 pages, for example, we are told twelve times that the Earth has ‘nineteen billion’ inhabitants—that is more or less once every seventeen pages. I see no need to pound it this hard.
Also the leader of the resistance is perhaps too good, too noble, to be entirely believable. He certainly belongs to a type, a stereotype, that I seem to have encountered in similar novels, and I tend to think that leaders of any underground resistance movement, of any aggressive opposition to the reigning system, when the stakes are this high, the enemy so ruthless, and the situation so bleak and so critical, would be a pitiless pragmatist, a charismatic but otherwise thoroughly unpleasant person. In other words, a darker and more ambiguous character.
Finally, I would have preferred the dire and harrowing conditions in this future world to have been shown a bit more rather than told, especially considering the fact that this is a novel with a serious message. It would not have been necessary to subject readers to 500 pages of anxiety and claustrophobia, like I did in Mister, but a couple of descriptive passages would have driven the point home more forcefully. Of course, this is the sort of thing that tends get sacrificed in the interest of speed.
All the same, Kendall successfully creates an utterly dark and stomach-churning future of planned extinction, universal poverty, and social degradation, built on cowardice, fuelled by envy, and defined by mediocrity. The reader is left in no doubt that a doomsday asteroid or a thermonuclear holocaust would be preferable to this. The most depressing aspect of this work is that Kendall’s scenario is fairly believable: even if the specifics turn out the be different or more complex or ambiguous, even if the process herein described takes longer, the end result, absent the predicted dominance of the far East later this century, would not differ much from what is described in this novel.
The lesson to take away is clear: either we act now, and risk being called names, or we pay down the line with the entire future of our race, with no certainty of a desirable outcome even if action is eventually taken. I does seem silly—does it not?—to worry about being called names or being frowned at when these are the consequences.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Hold back this day? LOL I think that day is already upon us. For a second there I thought I was reading a scholarly description of white displacement in present-day Southern California. Geez that is sad. 2070? more like 2011
Ordinary folk being willing to speak out is still the day after tomorrow. Yesterday and this morning is the time of KM, DD and other visionaries who hope they can do sufficient to wake up enough of the right kind of people who can independently understand the broad based nature of what is required next, see what parts need more men, and get in there and do the work without need for pats on the head. If, only if, that broad based next stage happens will that day after tomorrow come.
America is already lost, face it. This is about Europe now. Time to be marrying your way back there…plenty of ways to get that done… and getting your roots and insights laid down.
I don’t know about the rest of you but I speak out every day without regard to what people think. And I live in a small enough community that people know me but I don’t care.
I’ve written two letters to the local tv station regarding a story they did about Mexican women using our court system because they have been battered by their mexican husbands. The story was dramatized to make us feel sorry for them but I have no pity.
Cesar Millan talks a lot about how Mexico is a macho place where women are treated differently then in White countries. Mexican culture has a right to exist. We should toss them out along with their battering husbands. Who cares what they do.
I told the news reporter that I cringed at his pc behavior while reporting the story and asked if he was afraid that if he asked tough questions they would be offended enough to go back to Mexico.
They should not be allowed to use the courts, they are here illegally and therefore do not have “clean hands”.
I received a meaningless reply about how battering is a crime and the courts will prosecute, so I replied back with a lecture about how the courts should be prosecuting because they are illegals and deporting them. I said that and a lot more.
I went to maps.google.com and “walked” the streets of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is eerie because you don’t see any White people. I searched for White neighborhoods and farms. I went around the coast of Cape Town, it is so, so beautiful but strangely there are so few people. The water on the bay side is so unbelievably gorgeous along with the mountains, but on the Atlantic side the surf is wild.
I saw Diepsloot squatter camp from R5ll highway. That is where a White woman was raped and tortured before having a broom stick shoved up her vagina, exiting thru her neck.
Its not uncommon for White people to be hijacked driving in Johannesburg. I saw the photo of the White woman on a website but it was quickly banned by South African authorities so today I can’t find it. I feel such a connection to the Boers, I love them and I weep for what is happening to them.
I will not say what I would do if I had the money and resources to do it because my comment would get censored. If only I could win the lottery.
I do not want to be depressed and feel helpless like the people in these novels. I want to go out in a blaze of glory and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I feel exhilarated, like there is a real purpose in life, something meaningful and important, like going on a mission for God, like the Knights of the round table must have felt. Give us a novel like that.
@Barbara
The best route to bio-exorcise aliens and questionable aliens is the tax route. Something you can do as a taxpayer, or as a taxpayer who employs Americans, and pays taxes on them.
A note to your local & state taxing authorities asking if a certain employer, at such & such address in your area is paying taxes on what look to be illegal aliens, or questionable foreign nationals?
Workers Compensation, school taxes, state, and, local income & wage taxes, these are just a few you can ask about. Does so-&-so pay those taxes on what maybe illegal aliens?
With state & local governments in a tax pinch your note will get results.
All this doom & gloom can be quickly reversed, if people start to use a little work ethic!
“I does seem silly—does it not?—to worry about being called names or being frowned at when these are the consequences.”
It is hardly fair to suggest these are the only consequences of speaking the truth. Families have broken apart, jobs lost, social standings ripped to shreds… these are the things that keep a lifetime together, and can easily be denied by a simple, unfounded accusation.
I speak out judiciously, but also chose my occupation and wife so that I could. Not everyone is so lucky. Additionally, speaking out has to be done very shrewdly, with an eye always towards the future and consequences. Us White slaves are usually hustling about so much, it is a tremendous task to be “wise as serpents.”
We do need to be more visible and vocal, due to the stakes, but the consequences shouldn’t be brushed aside as childish name calling.
Mike
Mickey Meadows said:
“Time to be marrying your way back there…plenty of ways to get that done… and getting your roots and insights laid down.
Can you shed any light on how that might be done?
We were blindsided. Little did we know that defending the Jew against Hitler would eventually lead to our own demise. We underestimated the hatred of the Jew against us. We collectively thought to ourselves, “Look we saved them from Hitler, they will be our friends forever!” In reality they repaid us with enslavement and displacement. No wonder ADL heads view Israel as their Insurance policy if things get bad for them in America. They can’t help but project their own hatred for white Americans into their actions. They can’t help but commit pre-emptive strike after pre-emptive strike against us as they know we will eventualy wake up to their treason and deceit against us. White non-Jews remain unforgivingly naive towards the tribe’s anti-white policies. Lets viciously condemn all white persons who fail to see the necessity of a white ethnic identity. If I here one more white Lib defend illegal immigration I’m going to implode! Traitorous behaviour is expected in non-whites and tribe members, but for our own kind to act like this, unthinkable.
Why bother? If the US is shot, so is Europe. It’s even more firmly under the control of bankers and multiculturalists, and has plenty of rampaging Muslims and blacks glutting its urban streets.
The only real advantage presently enjoyed by Europe over America is the absence of millions of militant reconquista-drunk Hispanics. However, this advantage comes with a fatal disadvantage: the Whites of Europe are unarmed and quite defenseless. If they manage to win a single confrontation with their masters, it will be because countless thousands “led with their faces”.
Here in the US, we still have the Second Amendment as our Founders intended. But Europe has nothing of the kind. As soon as the Europeans allowed themselves to be completely disarmed, it was all but over. To win now, they’d need to build their road to victory on human dams and levees.
Of course, we can’t rule out a widespread outbreak of sheer mass courage on the parts of ethnic Europeans; Europe was at one time a continent of heroes. But it seems rather unlikely. The political resistance we’ve been seeing displays all the classic warning signs of controlled opposition.
At this point, all we can do with certainty is wish our European brothers and sisters the best. Marry one, and you’re still doing him/her a favor.
The doom and gloom all is lost talk makes me think this is pointless. I would rather be around people who think of things we can do to take our world back.
The average IQ in israel is 94, the only jews giving us problems are an elite that can be removed. The non Whites could then be manipulated into leaving the United States. Just stop their welfare payments and don’t give them housing or jobs.
Stop giving welfare to baby mamas and they’ll immigrate to any place we set up for them in order to work for food.
Our people have colonized every race on this Earth. I’m shocked at how wimpy you people are.
After being inspired by the Popes fighting against Islam and the Crusades I have been fantasizing about modern crusades while you all are waving white flags. Good grief.
A good dystopian novel sells a dark vision of what-could-be. Its only value is in its ability to wake people up to the possibility of this dark fate. You have to know your enemy and you have to know the stakes in order to cross your personal Rubicon.
But after that we should all be ‘happy warriors’,filled with the spirit of victory, no matter what. You have to believe in yourself, your folk, your god(s), your purpose and make it your priority. That happens one step at a time.
We are at the beginnings of the great white awakening. Then comes the Reconquista.
Even though I am an Odinist I see the great truth spoken by Isaiah:
“without vision my people perish”
Build the Vision!
I agree with Barbara, I’ve had it with the endless whining doomsday scenarios. 19 billion ? No way.
No more defeatist masochism.
Dear Mr. Kurtagic: Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful review.
Thanks as well to all those who have read and enjoyed my novel as well.
Briefly, I want to mention that at the time of “Hold Back This Day’s” first publication, there had never been a novel written about the last white people on earth. There had, of course, been many novels written about the last people on earth – period. (“The Road”, by Cormac McCarthy, being the most recent) None, however, about the last whites on earth. I think that’s part of the reason why many have sought it out again and again, long after it had gone out of print.
Part of the reason, as well, is simply because it’s no ordinary work of fiction, something to be read at bedtime, mused over, and then put away and quickly forgotten. It’s more than just another ‘dystopian science-fiction novel’. In actuality, it is closer to a crime story – a crime story about the murder of the white race. I had both those accusations in mind as I sat down when foggy evening and set the story into action: crime…and murder.
Unfortunately, the crime portrayed between the pages of “Hold Back This Day” is becoming less and less fictional with each passing year, as the once-bright future of America is slowly being murdered by multiculturalism, miscegenation, Third World immigration, falling white birth rates, culture-wrecking globalism, and – behind it all – the treacherous betrayal of our own nation’s leaders. “Hold Back This Day” is a cry to take action, as no other novel in WN fiction has. Get it in hardcover or softcover but get it. Pass it on after reading it, or buy extra copies as gifts for those who need a swift slap of future reality in the face.
Finally, some commenters here have scoffed at the idea of a future world bulging with 19 billion people, the period in which “Hold Back This Day” is set. Sure, it’s anybody’s guess what the next century will bring.
Nonetheless, some theorists have indeed predicted such hellish population growth to come about exactly as portrayed in the overcrowded world of Jeff Huxton, the hero of my novel.
Just read here:
“World Population Could Reach 27 Billion by 2100″
http://theglobalherald.com/?s=population+27+billion&x=12&y=8
First of all – the current world history is written by the ‘Western Victors’. Remember the biggest hoax created by the Europen settler to justify the Holocaust of over 100 million Native Americans: “I land without people”. The same lie with a little modification “land without people for the people without land” was used by the World Zionist movement to occupy Palestine which already had 700,000 inhabitants. And those Europe’s unwated Jews had lived in the West for over 10 centuries and had controlled the banks and several governments.
As the Persian saying goes: “Truth is very bitter to swallow”.
“I am learning that holy books change depending who reads them. There was a lot of stuff which I thought was Black and White that – isn’t,” Gwendolyn Willow Wilson (born 1982), an American author and essayist on interfaith and Middle East. She converted to Islam after 9/11 while on a teaching assignment in Egypt. She is married to an Egyptian. Her book ‘The Butterfly Mosque’ is her memoir.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/among-the-righteous-the-ones-who-saved-jews/
Here’s some truth for you Rehmet, ever hear of Timur the Lame? How about his India trip? By all accounts, Timur’s campaigns in India were marked by systematic slaughter, rape and other atrocities on a truly massive scale inflicted mainly on the subcontinent’s Hindu population. What do you think Moe (pbuh -this business I find really ridiculous) have to say about that? Or doesn’t Hindus matter not being people of the Book? There is enough slaughter to go around, so don’t lecture us on the American Indians who had a slave based society. We’ll mind our own business and you can mind yours.
As the Persian saying goes: “Truth is very bitter to swallow”.
Rehmat you may be confused, but this is a site for white identity. I realize white Americans love to go on Islamic sites to express themselves, but do we really need your non-white, Islamic perspective on this site? Unbelievable
Rehmat – 100 million “native Americans” slaughtered is not supported by the facts. Native Americans didn’t believe in ownership of land, anyway – but now they have all they need, but few choose to live in TeePee’s and run Buffaloe over the cliff for food anymore, and I haven’t heard of any scalpings taking place.
The book review is based entirely on a hypothetical future scenario imagined as ramifications of current trends, yet nothing in your post seems to actually discredit or invalidate any of these dystopic predictions. Instead, it makes a clumsy and hideously generalized view of a period in Western History in two sentences, and follows up with a proverb and an Islamic conversion story. I don’t see how any of this successfully contradicts anything in the article. In fact, it probably strengthens it’s argument, considering this:
“History has been re-written, erasing the White man from its annals. If the White man is mentioned in any way, it is as a paradigm of evil: the White race was the most malevolent that had ever existed, having enslaved other races, grown wealthy at their expense, and appropriated their achievements.”
…which, ironically, your post echoes perfectly.
“Holocaust of over 100 million Native Americans:”
100 million hunter-gatherers?
Tell some more lies.
I’ve been witnessing the dissection of Whites for the past four decades and see all the machinations of the Jews, political hacks, and corporations, especially when it comes to mass media (PBS, History Channel, movies, music, documentaries, corporate advertising). I became so fed up with White bashing that I called and also emailed Fedex about their anti-White racist commercials a few weeks back. You may have seen these commercials before they were removed just a couple of days after my complaint was made:
Fedex Mnemonic “Dan fool”
Fedex exchange student
Fedex MBA
The adverts may be comical to some, but if you understand the culture of critique (continuous bashing year after year like water on rock), they become more harmful than amusing. We have to nip such commercials and the like in the bud and use the same critique methods against these cowards.
What we need to discuss are specific acts of resistance. They’ll need to be discussed in purely hypothetical terms, of course. However, it looks like there are those who want no part of that and who believe that if the White race can’t be saved by blogging and writing, then, by God, we just have to become extinct.
This is not the appropriate forum for the kind of resistance you are implying.
On an unrelated note, has anyone noticed it is harder for criminals, especially the not-too-smart kind, to get away with crime? Every txt message, every email, every post, every search on the internet is saved and reviewed by someone, and it becomes a permanent record for the authorities to reference and use in court.
Several black youths were recently put in prison, because they had sent txts to each other discussing the robbery of a liquor store. Dumb. Apparently low-IQ Muslims do the same thing – they literally discuss their plans on internet boards. Of course, they are rightly rounded up and arrested. Really dumb.
So this is one advantage of our digital age – harder for criminals with all the tracking and monitoring that goes on.
The power of the pen Mark. Do you think the lads at the Frankfurt School ever dreamt of any other type of resistance? Don’t underestimate ideas. “He that can have patience can have what he will” B. Franklin.
Cmon, I doubt Mark is naive enough to advocate a one way ticket to the penitentuary. The paradigm for activism has already been provided by the ADL, ACLU, NAACP along with Alinsky and Ghandi. These avenues of activism have worked wonders against us! lmao
Jason Speaks Hebrew said:
“Several black youths were recently put in prison, because they had sent txts to each other discussing the robbery of a liquor store.”
That’s because they discussed SPECIFIC acts to be done at a SPECIFIC time. There’s nothing illegal about discussing revolutionary theory, methods, equipment, or techniques in fictional and futuristic terms.
The topics discussed on TOO will have zero effect on White survival. For the most part the consensus here seems to be: ‘oh well, we’re going to have to just accept our fate, but at least we should try to understand the forces behind it as it happens. If we can’t have our own area with the non-whites’ permission we’ll just have to accept that.’
There is no scenario whereby Whites can vote their way out of the racial situation they are in. Part of the reason for that is because even if we could get our way in an election (which we can’t) the non-whites would still be here inside of White living space and that’s not acceptable. They will all be removed one way or the other.
Whites can’t vote their way out of it NOW and they certainly won’t be able to do it five, ten, fifteen, or twenty years from now. The Jews are laughing at all of these attempts to deal with it.
BTW, when the planning part gets here nobody will be doing it over the phone or Internet.
Mark it sounds like you have no interest in the articles this site. It strikes you as too “academic”. I’m not exactly sure why you are here. Then you hurl personal insults at people you disagree with. Frankly, it is suspicious to me that you keep trying to push the conversation in an edgy direction, quite against the wishes of almost everyone here.
What makes this especially suspicious is that there are other forums you could go to get your fix. But for some reason, you persistently push. Maybe you are just wanting to explore future, hypothetical Rambo Fantasies (even though that serves zero purpose, since the technology and political environment for future generations is unkown).
We have to also assume that federal agents monitor this site. It’s sad but true. I’ve heard that 1 out of 10 “White Nationalists” are actually federal informants. So, everyone should be extremely wary of anyone that comes across as an agent provocateur.
@Jason Speaks Hebrew
What we’re trying to accomplish is not “academic” – it’s not rocket science. Most of the topics discussed here have nothing to do with White racial salvation and will have no effect on it. Don’t stroke you own ego.
“against the wishes of almost everyone here.” It doesn’t look like that to me. When we had the thumbs up/down thing most agreed with my position—especially when it came to beheading race-traitor White women! And you’re aware that most of the readers understand that you are a Jew. You are always trying to pour cold water on the discussion of effective means of resistance or push such means far out into the remote future knowing full well it will be too late at that point.
Why don’t you describe for us a democratic solution for the racial situation Whites face and how any legal measures Whites take will not be declared “unconstitutional” by a federal judge or SCOTUS. Can’t do it? Neither can anybody else reading this.
You do a pretty god job of insulting those who disagree with you.
“Edgy direction”? What’s “edgy” about discussing methods of regime change that have been used many times in history?
“Rambo fantasies”? You don’t know much about political upheaval do you?
It doesn’t matter whether or not federal agents monitor this site—nobody is planning anything on this site. You are misinformed.
As a Jew I’m sure you know that any effective means of resistance threatens you very much because you know in your heart of hearts what the first targets will be.
Mark said,
“That’s because they discussed SPECIFIC acts to be done at a SPECIFIC time.”
but Mark originally said,
“What we need to discuss are specific acts of resistance.”
So you just contradicted yourself. Thanks for com’n out champ.
@HeGeMony HoGh
Specific acts of resistance discussed in fictional, futuristic, and hypothetical terms is what I meant and what I’ve said in this thread and in other threads.
Take a look at my post at May 21, 2011 – 6:05 pm above. You’re very observant, aren’t you?
BTW, HeGeMony HiGh, why don’t you take a crack at that problem I put to Jason Speaks Hebrew.
Describe for us a democratic and peaceful solution to the racial situation Whites face and how any legal measures Whites take will not be declared “unconstitutional” by a federal judge or SCOTUS.
Thanks in advance for sharing your intellect with us.
Well Mark, if you are looking for fictional fantasies, you might try the World of Warcraft sites. They seem to be pretty engrossing to a lot of people. Also, Dungeons and Dragons attracts a lot of people. You are just going to scare off people who come to this site. Which may be your aim.
Oh but as a partial answer to your question, first, stop scaring people off. Stop making it seem like White Advocates are the negative stereotypes that Hollywood creates. We aren’t.
That’s what I figured. You can’t describe any scenario whereby Whites will solve their racial problem legally, peacefully, and democratically because there isn’t such a scenario—not on this website and not on any other WN website.
I can’t say I’m familiar with Dungeons and Dragons or World of Warcraft, but it looks like you are and you no doubt have a nice collection of video games.
Mark, why are you motivated to explicitly state, over and over, that there is no way White Advocacy can be successful if done legally, peacefully and lawfully? I find that rather suspect no matter where you stand on the issue.
There are many examples in history of Whites protecting their interests in a manner that was socially acceptable. In fact, all forms of successful White defense have been socially acceptable. Operation Wetback done in Texas back in the 1950s was legal, peaceful and democratic. Illegal aliens were rounded up moved back to Mexico. Once the illegal Mexicans realized Whites were serious and united, they complied.
All of the conflicts that Whites had with Native Americans were legal, lawful and democratic, even if they did involve tremendous conflict. When Europeans drove the Moors from Spain and Muslims from Europe, it was certainly a war, but it was done in accordance with the wishes of White people. It was by definition lawful and in a sense democratic.
The removal of Jews from England and other European countries in history was always done in accordance with the wishes of the majority of Whites. And when Whites in America have separated and/or segregated other groups it has been done legally and democratically – the Jim Crow laws in the South, the internment of the Japanese in WWII, the separation of the Chinese in California back in the 19th century were all done legally and democratically, and more or less peacefully – and most definitely with the approval of most Whites.
The list goes on and on. Whites will win when they get control of the machinery of government and have the right ideas. There is no scenario where Whites defend themselves against the wishes of most Whites. It cannot be imagined and has never happened in history.
@Jason Speaks Hebrew
What makes you think that Whites are being scared off? When we had the thumbs up/down option many more agreed with me than disagreed. By a large majority they agreed that race-traitor White females should be beheaded. You are wrong if you think that Whites are being scared off. In any case, the few Whites who are scared off aren’t worth having. They should not be counted among our allies. They’re kind of like those Whites who flee the fight and who, as they retreat, will be getting kicked in their asses by the non-whites all the way to Kalispell, Montana where they’ll run to avoid having to fight.
After you have pondered the racial situation in this country and throughout the Whitelands for 25 or 30 years you may come to your senses and stop all of these democratic fantasies and your shrill, womanly handwringing. You should have learned the ropes by watching the situation in California with the queers and Prop 8, which was overturned by a federal judge. Do you think that the queers are going to get stronger or weaker in the future?
Same thing in Arizona where SB1070 was gutted by a federal judge because it was “unconstitutional”. Do you think that the advocates of non-white immigration and the non-whites themselves are going to get stronger or weaker in the future? Have you ever heard of the “Diversity Visa”?
I think any reasonable person is going to say that both the queers and the Mexicans (as well as other non-white groups) are going to be getting very much stronger in the near future. They can all vote and that fact rules out any legal, peaceful, and democratic solution for Whites racial survival.
Also, what’s so negative about Whites fighting for their survival? The goal is the goal. The message is the message. Neither should be watered down.
Operation Wetback was in the 1950s. The Mexicans at that time were not radicalized and did not advocate the ‘Reconquista’ idea. Anybody who thinks there’s no difference between the Mexicans then and the Mexicans now, I have a bridge I want to sell to you.
Any conflicts Whites had with the Indians that were peaceful because Whites had already slaughtered many, many thousands of them and the Indians knew that the rest of them would be killed if they didn’t comply.
The conflicts you mention that Whites had with non-whites occurred a long time ago and there is currently a large disparity in the amount of political and social power between Whites and non-whites in favor of the non-whites and the balance is tipping even more in favor of the non-whites because of their numbers and control of the press and educational institutions. Those things are not likely to change any time soon. As a practical matter the situations you mention involving Whites vs. non-whites in the past are for us today completely irrelevant.
BTW, why do you refer to the Indians as “Native Americans”? That’s suspicious.
Dear Marky-Mark and the Man-Love Bunch…sigh… We can’t go back to 1965 and reverse the legislation that let everyone in here to begin with, genius. Moreover Marky Mark, the fact that you’re instigating criminal behavior and some infantile zero-sum game disqualifies you from polite discourse and thus removes the burden of response from those you antagonize. But for arguments sake, I’m interested in non-zero sum solutions as previously outlined. Remember, in this drama called life every actor is not equipped with reason and wisdom, as displayed by your highly emotional and feminine outbursts. As such, I suggest you obtain more than a pedestrian knowledge of American history and you may find an answer to your question. But in the likely event you remain ignorant, fear not for you most-definitely will be squatting behind bars getting funky and feelin that sweet sensation from bubba like you know how and presented with a rare oppurtunity to contemplate and correct your behavior.
@Jason Speaks Hebrew
The dealings that Whites had with Indians involved a great deal of bloodshed and killing. They forced the Indians onto reservations at gunpoint, killing many who resisted. I seriously doubt if all of that was “legal”, as you put it. But it doesn’t really matter whether it was legal or not—they did what they had to do for their survival.
In any case, Whites were able at that time to enact laws that served their racial and economic interests. That’s not something Whites are ever likely to be able to do again in the America or the other Whitelands.
There is a good book on the relations between Whites and Indians:
Scalp Dance: Indian Warfare on the High Plains, 1865-1879
By Thomas Goodrich
Stackpole Books, 2002
ISBN-10: 0811729079
ISBN-13: 978-0811729079
Purchasing information and reviews of this book at:
http://www.amazon.com/Scalp-Dance-Indian-Warfare-1865-1879/dp/0811729079
If you think the dealings between Whites and Indians was “legal”, I think this book will indicate to you otherwise.
BTW, in order for any of the instances of conflict between Whites and non-whites that you mentioned earlier and that were settled in favor of the White population to be relevant for us today, they would have to have occurred in the same or similar context as the conflicts today—and they did not.
Mark, I have answered your question and you continue to hurl insults at me and others. This is annoying and unproductive. Is that your goal? You remind me of a certain White Angel that used to post here and was always trying to tell us how horribly violent Whites were — he acted like he favored that violence, but he was actually a troll trying to smear Whites.
Wars are often legal and democratic. You sound like you are either a troll trying to cause trouble or you are deep in the Rambo fantasy land.
@HeGeMony HiGh
Thank you for your tacit admission that you are unable to describe a peaceful and democratic solution/scenario that would allow us to extricate ourselves from the racial situation we are in. I knew you wouldn’t be able to. Your response that includes sexual references has that typically Jewish feeling to it.
If I were advocating criminal activity my posts would be quite different than they have been so far.
Jason Speaks Hebrew said:
“Mark, I have answered your question and you continue to hurl insults at me and others.”
Gee, talk about the pot calling the kettle black…! If you don’t like it, don’t respond with insults.
Let’s see, you’ve been accusing people of being trolls here now for several months, haven’t you?
I don’t think I need to point out to those who have been reading the TOO comments for the last several months or so – that a lot of people have singled you out to almost certainly be a Jew.
@Jason Speaks Hebrew
Ok, since “wars are often legal and democratic” as you say, it should be easy for you to describe a scenario whereby Whites are going to be able to legally and democratically remove many tens of millions of Jews and other non-whites from their jobs, their homes, their communities, and remove them completely from White living space while they are rioting, burning up cities, killing Whites, conducting guerrilla warfare operations, sabotaging the electrical, industrial, transportation, social, political, and economic infrastructures. Did I mention the many millions of Mexicans who will be invading the U.S. while all of this is going on?
That should be a piece of cake for you. Let’s hear it. And don’t tell us that we’ll just enact the laws that will permit us to do all of this.
Mark,
You are lost in a fantasy world, drink some cold water. A handful of Anglos defeated the entire Mexican army back in 1835. A handful of Spaniards took over the entire Aztec empire numbering in the millions. Those were all fully legal actions. Those Whites were far more outnumbered than Whites are in the US and Europe now.
Exactly what methods will Whites use? I don’t know, nor would it be useful to discuss it. The technology available at some future point is unknowable. It may be far easier than you imagine.
Once Whites are thinking straight, the problem is solved. Because, ultimately, the only real opposition we have is other misguided Whites. South Africa was ruled by Whites for generations, even though they were outnumbered 10 to 1. And they did it legally and democratically. The numbers almost don’t matter.
Mexicans are just not that driven, they are a very passive people. Blacks are almost too dumb to be on the radar. For God’s sake, Whites went over and got them from their home country and brought them here — neither Blacks nor Mexicans have a sufficient fighting spirit to be any real opposition.
You think Jews are gonna fight? LOL. And there are not tens of millions of Jews, their numbers are much smaller.
Jason Speaks Hebrew said:
“A handful of Anglos defeated the entire Mexican army back in 1835. A handful of Spaniards took over the entire Aztec empire numbering in the millions.”
Yes, and those two events involved an enormous amount of violence and killing. Any future race-saving activity will involve more of the same and it will be on much larger scale. That’s one of my points: Whites need to prepare and equip themselves now for that time. They need to understand that like the two examples you gave above, future interaction between Whites and non-white will be very violent. White racial salvation cannot be accomplished non-violently. They need to discuss these issues and not stick their heads in the sand.
And this:
“South Africa was ruled by Whites for generations, even though they were outnumbered 10 to 1. And they did it legally and democratically.”
But it was not lasting—and that’s the only thing that matters! Whites are now getting killed and mutilated for not applying enough violence on a wide enough scale toward the non-white population there. Had they been prudent and done their job properly there wouldn’t be any non-whites in SA to threaten them.
You need to do some more reading and think about all of this a little longer.
Mark,
You are contradicting yourself. Remember you said this was all hypothetical, so there is no need for any actual planning – no need to prepare and equip(!) ourselves now. You claim you don’t want to cause trouble, that you aren’t a federal agent, yet you attempt to draw people into dangerous edgy conversations that serve zero purpose in real world and run a real risk of getting someone in trouble or at the very least hurting our reputation (as well as scaring people away).
Whatever needs to happen will be done by legally appointed professionals, like Cortez and his team. I am not an expert in law enforcement or similar fields. I doubt many here are, so there is no value to our idle chitchat on such topics.
You might prefer to go to some law enforcement sites and read about the technical details of police work.
@Jason Speaks Hebrew
No, I didn’t contradict myself. There’s nothing in the word “equip” that indicates anything illegal. Future actions can be discussed in fictional and hypothetical terms and Whites can equip themselves with items that are legal to possess at this time. You might want to keep a dictionary by your side.
Man, you are really off in fantasyland if you think that “legally appointed professionals” are going to save Whites. You’ve claimed before that you are not a Jew, but your suggestion that Whites rely on some futuristic team of “professionals” that might exist calls that claim into question. Hahaha.
“Like Cortez and his team…” Then you agree with me that much violence is going to take place. Why would you want Whites to be unprepared for that?
Mark you are unworthy of debate on a host of levels. I feel like an attorney trying to persuade his juvenile client to stay out of trouble!lmao You couldn’t even respond to my zero sum game comment as your emotions control you in true adolescant fashion. But just to highlight your ignorance, here you go. You state: “You can’t describe any scenario whereby Whites will solve their racial problem legally, peacefully, and democratically because there isn’t such a scenario—not on this website and not on any other WN website.”
Firstly your Correlation Implies Causation.
In other words, there are non-whites in America and yet we are discussing white identity. So although America was whiter in past decades, the non-white rate in America has been going up and therefore the presence of non-whites causes our lack of white identity. (correlation implies causation ) When in reality tribe control over our power centers in law, media and academia impedes our white identity. Moreover the increased presence of non-whites has sparked white identity as we all know that attacks from hostile out-groups upon the in-group breeds unity. Ultimately, there was never a time in American history where North America was completely white. So how does one solve a racial problem that has always existed? You falsely assume that removing all non-whites will bring back white identity when American history is nothing but whites exercising their identity in the midst of non-whites, ever since America’s founding. Whites know how to deal with non-whites, that has been and always will be the story of America. What whites don’t know how to deal with is a hostile tribe group that has infiltrated us and turned America against us. But when we collectively wake-up, we will subsequently solve our non-white issue that you are so concerned about. This is why you need to educate yourself before attempting discourse with intelligent people. But of course you’re not worried about how you are perceived because your ultimate goal is not the protection of white people, it is the downfall of white people as you attempt to persuade our kind to a life behind bars.
HeGeMony HiGh said:
“Mark you are unworthy of debate on a host of levels.”
Then don’t respond to my posts.
There are a lot of “ifs” and “maybes” in you dribble.
@Barbara
Do you post on any forum that has a PM feature?
I recently read several reports commissioned by NASA in the late 70′s on large space stations. All the reports mentioned ethnic seperation as a reason to build these space colony’s It is facinating reading and may just be the white mans last hope.
Fiction is a great way to pull people into the cause.
There is one more out-of-print dystopian novel worth mentioning–Kevin Beary’s excellent “The Savaged States of America.” Read then while watching “Idiocrasy.” It also shares some themes with the Northwest Quartet, though Beary is deliberately using dark humor and irony. You might be able to get a copy of the novel online.
One thing that needs to be shown to Whites is why this type of dystopian future will happen if Whites are not allowed to have a homeland. Often novels and other discussions assume a really bad situation for Whites, without making it clear why it will necessarily have to be that way.
To the average White person living in Los Angeles or Houston or Phoenix, or any other city where minorities are the majority, the upper half or two-thirds of Whites are not suffering that much. It’s only the poor Whites that are truly feeling it at the moment, and even with them, we are not talking great pain.
Whites need to feel what a world without a white majority country will be like, and to have it proven to them that disaster will follow. I’m afraid most just shrug off predictions of a dark future as avoidable, something that can be managed with social policies.
Look no further than Zimbabwe and, soon to follow it, South Africa, if you want to see what Whites living as a minority governed by corrupt morons will look like. I’m in Australia, where we have very many White SA Immigrants. Hearing them speak of life in their former homeland is quite an eye opener. For my part I’d welcome every SA White into OZ, they are not afraid of work, they don’t come here with an ‘entitlement’ mentality and they fit into our communities with ease.
By contrast we are experiencing an invasion by Boats from Indonesia carrying hundreds of Afghans and Iraqis every week. They come here and DEMAND to speak, not with our officials, rather they want to speak with United Nations representatives, because they’ve been told Australia is a signatory to the UN Universal Human Rights Charter, and interpret that as their right to come here without bothering to go through the usual channels and demand to immediately get onto our welfare system.
This is how the Jews have undermined our countries for decades: Infest the UN, the EU and the US and all Western governments and start making subtle Laws and regulations whose consequences are not at all understood by the sheeple until it’s way too late. But there will come a day when our Navy will start sinking these boats and a day when we will see the end of the Jews in every White Nation. It has happened before in individual countries, but this time it will happen a far greater scale. The pendulum is swinging very much to the right around the World. People understand who is behind economic collapse, it started with Iceland and will not end there.
To Euro Mike: what is a good book to read on Odinism?
how about a novel that starts from where we are right now, with a surging anti-immigrant movement in Europe and N. America, White economies going into austerity because of the burden of blacks and browns, the tax revolt of Whites protesting their cuckholding by the untermenschen, the Arab Spring-(Trap) which is going to crush not only the Jews, but the whole LIberal Apparatus of ideology, pols, and foreign policy …negating it in just a year or two? There will be either larger war against the Arabs/Muslims, or there will be a military withdrawal from the middle east, centrist (middle position, cannot hold, it is exhausted. Imagine even a U.S./Russian joint strike on Israel. Impossible? Do you think the Pentagon has no war-plan on its shelf for dealing with the final solution to Israeli hubris?
Now there’s a thriller to novelize; and the devolution of Europe, the dissolution of tghe EU, the mass migrations of 55 million Muslims out of Europe, and the Mexers out of the U.S. Stalin moved tens of millions of people around in months. The Germans were ethnically cleansed first in Russia, in the 20s and then after the War when about 15 million were moved back to Germany. Think this cannot happen? When Race reasserts itself, there will be hell to pay. It is coming, it has started. Let the novelist not be caught flat-footed. Joe
There is Crisis everywhere, politically, socially, and economically.
Whites are awakening and the pace is swift. The National Front in France may win next year and the White Nationalist parties all over Europe are growing. The U. S. will have to follow Europe. The novel should be set in Europe, maybe France, and where is Jean Raspail when we need him again?
These dystopian novels are alright, but too pessimistic. I say pessimistic because they do not reflect where we are right now.
I talk to strangers frequently…they are ready to go with us. Just a couple days ago a poll had about half of Americans stating that they wanted a third political party. This third party is not going to be a leftist party, it will be a national party, implicitly White with an explicitly anti-immigrant position. That will be how it begins. Joe
[ First of all – the current world history is written by the ‘Western Victors’. Remember the biggest hoax created by the Europen settler to justify the Holocaust of over 100 million Native Americans: “I land without people” ]
It was virtually a land with out people .
Indians lived in pre-historic conditions and with out the means to support a population of one tenth of your wacky death toll . Tribal war fare was vicious and barbaric . Life was harsh to say the least with a life expectancy of late 20′s and an astronomical infant mortality rate .
Their numbers only flourished with the improved living standards that the white man brought them .
The pioneers came poor and desperate from Europe and survival was their first priority . It was not a picnic for Indian or white man .
Indians were famous for their vicious barbarity since they came from a barbaric pre-historic culture .
Mark Twain did some writing on the subject of Indians .
I would give his writing much more credibility than modern politically correct anti-white nonsense .
@ Rehmat
I missed directing my above post to you .
You know I see you defending Islam all of the time . I do know that Islam gets a bad treatment for the obvious reason that the self chosen are wanting war these days .
But , regardless of how good or bad Islam is , I would just like Islam to stay in the east .
I am a white Euro and I don’t believe in multi-cult globalism . Strong fences make for good neighbours . You can have your culture and I will have mine .
I don’t know that being negative inspires people. It might scare them, but would fear inspire them to constructive action?
We urgently need our own communications system. We never dreamt an alien species like the Jews would sneak ours away from us and pretend they are the White Race’s communications system.
People look to media for information, guidance, understanding, to know for themselves what is going on in the world and to know what to think about it all. It is natural for us to look at what should be our life line. That is why cultures and groups have a communications system. People turn to it without even thinking.
We, somehow, have got to figure out how to by-pass the Jew’s corporate media and render them impotent. What can we do that would put a replacement system in everybody’s living rooms as readily and uncomplicated as a TV set?
Heather,
The trouble with a non-Jewish TV channel, apart from being extremely un-Pc, is as soon as one is launched it immediately infested with them. England’s BBC is funded by a TV license on households but names of its senior management reads like the Tel Aviv phone book. Same in Australia and I’d bet London to a brick, everywhere else in all White countries.
The only way is forbidding them access to Jobs is such Key positions, again very un-Pc.
<i"The trouble with a non-Jewish TV"
Is there such a thing. :)
@ Helvena
The power of the pen is ONLY useful if the sentiments are ultimately expressed on the battlefield. Otherwise it is worthless.
@HeGeMony HiGh
We’re just going to have to get used to the fact that at some point we’re going to have to use means that are illegal—just like the Founding Fathers—they put their lives on the line. Are we not as good as them?
Mark I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but it’s now clear you’re smoking rocks!LOL I’m sure the majority of posters on this site carry the sentiment of a PATRIOT, knowing how to ACT within the law rather than outside as you advocate. Where would the tribe be today if they stupidly followed your advice? They would all be locked up and we would still be enjoying our culture. But I do agree that we can invoke the spirit of the founding fathers when creating competing protection agencies to the ADL and SPLC. Imagine if one of our members were to call every professor in a department, threatening lawsuits and public marches if they spew anti-white sentiment in their classrooms or support anyone who does. That is the power we need, not some RAMBO wannabe who fails to follow his thoughts to conclusion. The tribe is WAITING for us to do something stupid so they can initiate more hate crime legislation against us and further slander our name to impressionable non-whites. So kick rocks with your juvenile rhetoric. How much did the SPLC pay you to post such rubbish?LMAO
Whites will most likely never be unified. It’s too late to start now anyway; Jews are 2,000 years ahead of us when it comes to adhering to strict racial and philosophical ideas. These rules are, by now, part of their very being. Even if some group of whites were to write up similar laws for their fellow whites, what chance does it stand of ever being adopted in this day and age?
[ We’re just going to have to get used to the fact that at some point we’re going to have to use means that are illegal—just like the Founding Fathers—they put their lives on the line. Are we not as good as them? ]
If there comes a time when war is called for as for saving white people …
I would be very careful as to it not being just just another war in a very long history of whites fighting for what in the end is their own destruction .
There’s maybe 0,01 % Jews living in my country, but it’s ironic that the leader of our National Party has a son, who is Sefardic Jew and is studying Talmud in Israel. The principal enemy that we White People face today is our own corrupt political elite. In fact these people should all be incarcerated for High Treason! Our school system is teaching our children about poor undeveloped countries, poor blacks and browns, pakis and maccacis, yellos and mongrellos, who all need our help.
I was totally neutral on this topic until my sons began questioning me about “racism”. Soon after I discovered Rushton, Lynn, Francis, Mac Donald and many others. Almost over night I became very racial conscious. Thanks God for Internet!
It’s good to have bright white children indeed.
John: The first step toward fighting back is to reclaim our own history. Find out what your children and grandchildren are learning in school. Talk to them about what America’s true history is…(do it gently, don’t harangue)…and what a toilet the world would be without White/European culture and its accomplishments.
Explain to them the great achievements of European culture: The monastic tradition The Rennaisance, the Enlightenment, The Scientific Method. Ask them if African countries, India and Asian countries are really equal, why aren’t people flooding them instead of the countries of North America (minus Mexico) and of Europe?
The Jews never miss an oppurtunity to tell their children how great Jews are and how they’re the master race. Let’s not miss a chance to do the same.
If needs be teach your children that they can really only trust members from their own group. Enough with this multi-culti, it’s-a-small-world-after-all crap. It’s brought us to the brink of national suicide. Other ethnic groups teach ethno-centrisim, intelligent people of European origin need to begin doing the same.
Mark – I post at the Tennessean as pussyfootin
http://www.tennessean.com/comments/article/20110521/NEWS/305210025/-Don-t-Say-Gay-bill-clears-TN-Senate
Unless my comment gets tagged and deleted which is usually what happens. We used to have compete free speech at the Tennessean online forum but that has changed, look at who now publishes this paper, the jews must have heard about our free speech and realized they had to take the paper over. I wish this forum had pm.
Tom’s idea is brilliant, I will start calling and reporting people and asking about taxes, we should all do this.
I found Hold Back This Day at goodreads and librarything, put it on my to read lists and posted new threads to get a discussion going about it. I am calling my local library and requesting they buy a copy and make it a book in their book club for discussion.
Ward Kendall, Kevin MacDonald and all the writers here should become a part of goodreads and librarything.
@ Barbara
Every state & local government, and every school board, is hurting for tax revenue, and if you know of, or suspect that an employer is not paying payroll taxes on illegal aliens, or questionable foreign nationals, you are doing yourself, and your community a favor by turning them in to the taxing authority.
I suggest a note, because phone calls are forgotten, but, a note sticks around—and there are often incentives/rewards for catching tax cheats.
I hate this kind of apocalyptic thinking. The “mainstreaming” (even Kevin MacDonald thinks this way now) of this thinking in the WN movement has pretty much ensured that almost no “normal” people will ever want to be involved in it. If I was running the ADL or the SPLC, I’d be paying writers and internet trolls to promote these unhinged apocalyptic racial extinction scenarios.
Yes, we all know how terribly counter-productive and virtually ignored novels like Nineteen-Eighty-Four, Animal Farm, and Brave New World have been.
Really, most of the comments on this thread could have been posted on any other thread too, which means that we have a lot of hobby horse riding bores wrenching every discussion around to their favorite topics: themselves and their pet ideas. The weeds have obviously now choked out most thoughtful commentary here.
@ABC I hate this kind of apocalyptic thinking.
If you think this is “apocalyptic thinking” you must NOT be white or have lived as an elite white who’s never travelled outside your respective bubble. Either scenario screams your complete ignorance of the subject. In fact, the fiction represented in this book is SO REAL it is happening now at accelerated rates. 2070 my ass, this scenario could be found within 10 minutes of leaving LAX and travelling into the naked underbelly of the multi-cultural beast that is LA County. Picture the DUKE RAPE CASE being played out on a daily basis as whites are hung to dry if they are robbed, beaten, ripped off, or falsely accused by non-whites. I know, I live and work in Santa Monica so don’t tell me how it is for whites you ignorant douche. If you were white and I heard you spouting this garbage off in public I would bitch-slap you. I’ve heard enough out of ignorant whites who blindly follow mulitculturalism, teaching non-whites to HATE us while leaving their children to be beaten and robbed in the streets by brainwashed people of color. Mexican Americans fought and died in World War 2 and Korea and were proud to be Americans. Now their children despise us and wave Mexican flags in our face and tell us to get out of their land while their street gangs murder innocent blacks and Asians for intruding upon their territory. Thanks multi-culturalism! Assimilation is a pipe-dream for these re-conquistadors. So ABC, what world do you live in so I can be a part of it??!! I want to live in a place that, when I read an article such as this, I can safely conclude that it is apocalyptic in nature because my world is so safe and so white, I have the luxury of entertaining such a detached perspective!
Greg you seriously need to get laid. You sound like those north westerners who want to create a homeland but don’t want us average IQ people to live there. Who will carry off their garbage or mow their lawns or build their infrastructure? They’ll probably have to hire Mexicans.
There is just so much that can be said about a novel you haven’t read yet. What do you expect us to say? Its not our fault if you can’t attract intellectuals?
Why don’t you print a free chapter on your site, we’ll read it and let you know what we think.
If you have nothing to say on a given topic, try saying nothing. That way, you don’t crowd out people who might have something productive to contribute.
Does anyone have any ideas for Greg so that he can attract intellectuals to this movement? Its a rhetorical question. You’re too dumb to think of any ideas. And besides Greg doesn’t like your stinking ideas so keep them to yourselves.
I sent you a message in three parts at The Tennessean.
I get frustrated as well, Grey Johnson. I don’t really know how anyone perceives what I write, but I express what I believe is a constructive point and readers pick up on something else I may have mentioned completely overlooking the point I was trying to make.
Perhaps, I missed the point of the book Professor Kurtagic reviewed and if so, I am sorry. But in my mind it only confirms my belief that if ONE or a few books are important to us then so is developing a massive new communications system for white culture…one that will not allow alien “fairness” to get a foothold in it. After all, we are the ones who produce original ideas. I make my appeal to those geniuses. It is something they MUST think about. It would certainly hold back the day.
“Why don’t you print a free chapter on your site, we’ll read it and let you know what we think.”
Good morning, Barbara. Here’s a link to my website where you can read an excerpt from Hold Back This Day:
http://wardkendallnow.blogspot.com/p/about.html
Should you purchase a copy, let me know your views after you’ve read it. My email is wardkendall@gmail.com
CORRECTED VERSION:
Some constructive criticism for the commenters of this worthwhile site. Almost everything you say is true or semi-true about prospects and the like but sometimes there are feelings and observations that one shouldn’t share. So all these “woe is me! we should just give up!” or “we have no chance of winning because of this stat and this stat” or “the personal sideffects aren’t worth it”, comments etc just kind of suck and weigh this site down and detter people from this site and the larger movement for the west. So if you care about this cause you want to avoid the world described in the above review then one of your goals I believe should be too not needlessly demoralize people in and around this fight which is already hard enough as is. When people come to sites like this or Alt-Right or Vdare (don’t start the infighting by dissing) it should ideally be a piece of fresh air. People should feel t hat they have discovered other smart people with good minds not a bunch of perptually angry people who enjoy talking about “ZOG”. Reading half of these comments is depressing as hell and the opposite of a breath of fresh air. Ofcourse we don’t come here for comedy but thats my point also. We don’t need a triple dose of pessmism (and the commenters are way way more pessmistic than the writers). And all this is just so bad for this whole cause.The jew-bashing should be done with much much much more care. I understand that there is a justified rage at jews because many jews have spearheaded many of the most destructive movements against the west, etc. I understand. But in the intrest of getting even, lets say, (getting even as far as bringing the west back to being…the west) why don’t you try to tone down the jew bashing. So instead of saying stuff like, “the problem is we saved the jews from Hitler, we should’ve let him finished them off. There all scum.” or something like that write with a bit of skeptical doubt and be precise and say “I don’t see why so many jews have embraced mass immigration since….”. You see? The first quote if littered all over a website will doom it to obscruity that this site’s content doesn’t deserve. Even if you think saying “all the jews are scum. kill them all” is right and just do not post that here. Do it on a message board. Why? “to appease the jews”, you say? No, I would frame it like this: to beat the evil SPLC and advance the good fight. If you think something of this type and want to post it do so in a way that won’t make most modern whites run away scared back to the mainstream coma (“I don’t want to be one of these scary Nazi people I’ll go back to just caring about the Chicago Bulls!”). Its very simple: this fight like all important fights is a hard one and you partake in it or you don’t and maybe you don’t partake in it 24 hours a day. But theres no point putting all this demoralizing stuff on this site. All these comments say parts of a inner dialogue anyone with apostate views on these subjects is aware of.
“we saved the jews from Hitler”
America came to the rescue of Jews in World War 2 and allowed them to come to our country, a free and loving country. This country is the anti-thesis to Hitler and fascism. Is that somehow inaccurate and contradictory to the 2,000 plus historical monographs on the subject?
And why should you hold a flame to the feet of posters on this site in fear of offending the SPLC? We’re supposed to bend our lives to the wishes of the SPLC? Would they bend their lives for us or for our culture, like when Larry David pissed on a picture of Jesus in “Curb Your Enthusiasm?” Or how about when they teach our children to hate their white skin as were nothing more than racist slave-holders who have contributed nothing but hate and enslavement to the people of the world, are they bending to American culture then? Your funny diatribe is comparable to a hiroshima survivor throwing a rock at the Enola Gay and the NewYork times reporting on the “rock-throwing” rather than the “nuke blast” that just went off killing 40,000 people. So let’s put things in perspective, I hear your concerns but “jew-bashing” really? Stop trying to make a symbolic “throwing of a rock” a “nuclear holocaust” with your apples and oranges comparisons. And adjusting our lives so the SPLC is not mad at us? WHAT is that all about? Any group that hates me for having pride in my race is RACIST. Last time I checked the SPLC would call me a racist if I told them I was a proud white American with a rich white history going back 300 years. In my book, all people of color are worthy of life and should be allowed to pursue pride in themselves as that is how our creator ordained it. But let’s be honest, we don’t have that right and I’m sick of it pal. IM SICK OF IT. I deserve to have pride in my family, in my forefathers who fought and died for this country and the SPLC wants to take that AWAY! How dare they and how dare you pay homage to that. So I’ll make you a deal, why don’t you write the SPLC a letter and ask them if they will defend a white non-Jew who as been the victim of a racial hate crime. They will tell you its impossible for a white to be a victim as whites are the majority. That is RACIST! I would love to be able to write that the SPLC is a great organization, but not until they respect me and allow themselves a chance to get to know me. But they don’t allow themselves to know me because in their book I’m a nazi who hates them! They hate me because of my white skin and I just want them to stop! Look at the destruction wrought on America because of this sentiment! People don’t want to live their lives hating others like the SPLC. I love all people but still we are NOT allowed to exist without being damned in public as RACISTS!! And if we don’t want to be called racists we have to call our own people and culture racists. Its a lose-lose game for white people! What other country in the world sustains such a diverse population without mass murder and riots, America. She is the only example you hypocrite, yet we’re racists. Do your homework simpleton. The last thing I’d be worried about are the erudite posters on this site. I love coming here because if you haven’t noticed Einstein, white identity is white suffering at the hands of the tribe while Jewish Identity is holocaust suffering at the hands of whites. That’s not what white identity used to be about, but that’s what it has evolved into. So they’ve put their will on us the last 40 years and your tripping on a small website in the face of the full power of the Media, Wall-street, Pop-culture, Foreign Lobby’s(AIPAC,ADL), Academia, and Washington? At this point you should be metaphorically tarred and feathered. Absolutely absurd.
Regarding what I said earlier, about the last whites losing it and eating each other, and inborn self-destruction and so forth — I rest my case.
D.K. You are absolutely right. A few people like to blow off steam and see who can say the most incendiary statement. But that kind of talk is more appropriate for a beer joint. We need to develop a language that invites other Whites to open their minds, not scare them away.
I think we are starting to get more people here who think like you do.
Then stop scaring them away with your endless accusations of being skinheads, federal agents, etc.
Sorry, D.K., but I’m not going to sugar coat it. The white race is up against it like we’ve never been before in our entire existence. Even Europe threatens to be lost. OUR Europe! We’ve never been without Europe before. It is no lie that human population levels will be beyond what is sustainable by this planet in only 30 years time. We’ll all still be alive to see this happen. It is no exaggeration to say that white nations will be swamped with nonwhite refugees and subsequently destroyed. It’s later than any of us think. The time to dance around the subject is over. I WANT mainstream whites who may read this to be filled with dread. I want them to feel true fear, because that fear might just be what gets some people off their butts and doing something about it. At the very least, it might scare someone into not lying about his true feelings anymore.
Fenria, I don’t think D.K. is asking us to sugarcoat anything, but you have to admit, some of the commentary sounds like adolescents sitting around in their camouflage, playing Apocalypse Now on XBOX. This isn’t helpful. It hurts. A lot.
You do want Whites to realize how dire the situation will be for them and their children, but the best way to accomplish that is not to come off like survivalists. Simply lay out the case, describe the actual facts, connect the dots. But there is no reason to conform the Hollywood image of a White Advocate (scary dude, no friends, gun fetishist, tats on his shaved skull). That’s not us, but they will most likely come to this site with the fear of meeting such social outcasts.
We need to, above all, establish our own credibility as serious, thoughtful, intelligent and friendly people.
I agree Fenria and Jonathon. It’s ridiculously counter-intuitive to suggest one read the articles on this site and subsequently promote a neutered environment when it comes to comments. Every article on this site points to injustices perpetrated against white people, so obviously, the natural reaction is to foment outrage at said injustices. That is the entire purpose of the site. However, if this were a site dedicated to European poetry of European philosophy, I could anticipate your reaction if the comment section constantly turned to the tribe subject. But, the comments D.K. wishes to censor are directly connected to the outrage felt in the article and are therefore worthy byproducts of the scholarly pursuits chosen by this site. For one poster to act as the King of the Comment section and demand that posters conform to his or her wishes while simulating the will of the majority is well, ridiculous given the content on this site.
Oh come on. People are just giving honest feedback about the silly survivalist tone of a few of the posts. We aren’t here to indulge a bunch of old geezers who want to play Patton.
D.K. and others are saying “hey guys, you need to first make the case for Whites and why Whites are under attack – you need to reach a mass audience”. The fact that you have an emotional desire to lash out is understandable, but take to a bar. Or to some place that isn’t primarily an intellectual forum like this one.
D.K. and Robin, as well as some other new comers, have made good points about the need for more upbeat and less hostile commentary. This makes a lot of sense.
A few of the negative posters are trolls and a few are just blowing off steam (which would be better done in a pool hall). I think we should all remember that Whites that happen upon this site will be judging White Advocacy based on the articles and comments they read.
If there are too many that come across as scary and conform to the “Hollywood Skinhead” stereotype, it hurts our cause a great deal.
Jason Speaks Hebrew said:
“…have made good points about the need for more upbeat and less hostile commentary. This makes a lot of sense.”
There is every reason to encourage hostile thinking against the enemy. Whites are being destroyed. This is serious business—not some kind of game. The stakes are high.
I can understand why you, however, as a Jew, want to discourage any kind of aggressive or hostile posture against the enemy.
I believe that most white advocates would agree that one of the primary problems facing the cause has been that the establishment has controlled discourse on the all important subject of race .
And here we have so called white advocates attempting to exactly the same .
This site is not about being friendly touchy feely or nice .
No poster has the right to dictate as to the content or tone of this forum . We are all allowed an opinion , but let’s keep it at that .
By the way , ironically , this is cut and paste from a feature article on this very site and it is very applicable here …
White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century is a sequel of sorts to Paved With Good Intentions. Readers with high blood pressure are warned: consult with your physician or pharmacist before reading this book. The late Terry Anderson’s admonition to his radio listeners: ‘if you ain’t mad, you ain’t paying attention’ aptly applies to readers of White Identity.
john hearns said on May 23, 2011 – 2:38am:
“I believe that most white advocates would agree that one of the primary problems facing the cause has been that the establishment has controlled discourse on the all important subject of race . And here we have so called white advocates attempting to exactly the same.”
“This site is not about being friendly touchy feely or nice. No poster has the right to dictate as to the content or tone of this forum.”
I agree. You see people trying to control the discourse by calling people federal agents and trying to pretend they are smarter and more knowledgeable than everybody else, like their opinion matters more. It’s disgusting.
Mark, you are an agent of some kind. You have spent months doing the same thing – constantly pushing the conversation in a direction that, could, if it continued long enough, get people in serious trouble. You bait people, encourage them to contact you privately. Your game is all too obvious.
White Advocacy is legitimate, OK? Tell your boys wherever you work that Americans are still allowed to discuss political and intellectual ideas.
Yes and you should read those books – they don’t come off as a written by a madman in camouflage in some basement somewhere.
JS
The problem lies with the fact that you are only one of many posters . It is not your job to decide these things .
I find your opinion on some very important issues to be lacking to the point of suspicion as to your integrity and I believe others might agree .
But , I won’t try to dictate to you that you must post in this manner or in that tone … ” because you hurt the cause ”
It is true that some posts are pretty much out there , but so what ? I find some of what you have posted to be out there as well . But that’s just my opinion and that is all .
“because you hurt the cause”
That’s called “concern trolling” and you can just do a google search and find a good bit written on this particular tactic. In the current case, anything that doesn’t fit into a Rush Limbaugh routine, or is too “liberal” or (the favorite) or too “conspiratorial” is out of bounds, and “hurts the cause.”
It’s all pretty transparent, especially combined with the attempts to manufacture the illusion of consent.
As long as White Identity is confined to the far right of the “right wing” and “conservative fringe” the easier it is to control. Even Rush Limbaugh makes some “racist jokes” (against Blacks or Mexicans, never Jews) and the “moderate conservative” distance themselves. That’s how the system is supposed to work.
I’m willing to bet nothing happens until the SWPLs get on board, and that’s coming. The idea that “conservatives” are more racially conscious than “liberals” is a liberal myth as Tea Party favorite Herb Cain shows us.
Whites will never get anywhere as long as we’re stuck in the Kosher Conservative ghetto.
Mark, please stop calling me and everyone who disagrees with you a Jew. It’s really tiresome. If you read my other posts you would know that is not remotely possible.
You are either profoundly ignorant about how to influence people or you are an agent/informer trying to get some poor soul in trouble. I have never in my life heard anyone concerned with White people talk the way you do.
We are a legitimate people, with legitimate complaints, we have intelligence and education. We have families and jobs. We are not a bunch of ne’er-do-wells living in fantasy land. Nor or we a threat to anyone, please stop trying to portray us that way.
I find it insulting that you try and hijack a legitimate site with academic articles and try to turn it into your personal house of horrors. Go play Quake on Xbox.
There you go again, name calling and trying to talk down to other posters with whom you disagree.
It seems that nobody has been trying to hijack this site more than you. You’ve probably posted more on this site in the last few months than anybody else has since the site’s inception.
You’ve already conveyed your complaints so why don’t you stop trying to hijack most of the threads?
Please explain how intelligent you are.
Go play with your video games that you spoke of earlier.
Jason Speaks, you don’t need to explain the “White Advocacy” movement to me. I’ve been involved in it longer than you have.
Ever since about the time you showed up in this site you have been constantly yelling “troll alert!, troll alert!” whenever someone disagrees with you. Hardly a day goes by where you are not accusing someone of being a federal agent, a troll, a video game player, an agent provocateur, a beer hall regular, a trailer park dweller, a camouflage apparel-wearer or some other name. When are you going to stop it?
I should point out for any new viewers that for the last few months Jason Speaks has been thought by quite a few commenters to almost certainly be a Jew. Go back through some of the comment sections on threads from a few months or so ago and you’ll see what I mean.
Americans are still allowed to discuss resistance to the enemy, too, without being steered toward inactivity or being subjected to name-calling.
You wrote: “We are a legitimate people, with legitimate complaints, we have intelligence and education. We have families and jobs. We are not a bunch of ne’er-do-wells living in fantasy land.”
Well, we really don’t know for sure what YOU are, do we? And what makes you think that the others here don’t have intelligence, education, families and jobs—just their disagreement with you?
You wrote: ” …encourage them to contact you privately.”
There’s nothing unusual or suspicious about that. People routinely PM each other on blogs and other websites that have that feature. TOO blog does not have that feature.
Jason Speaks, I assumed mark was calling you a Jew because you’re constantly gate-keeping on this site (dozens of posts from you each and every article, all day every day) with the same basic set of propositions:
1. Don’t sympathize with the Palestinians or be too hard to Israel.
2. Your opponents are “trolls” (you said so in this thread).
3. Everyone is too angry, negative, too controversial and should all be more like you.
4. Don’t ever discuss Israel’s involvement in 911.
Combined with your sycophantic “greetings” to new posters and transparent and shallow apple-polishing for the authors, it all makes you seem a bit kosher. Maybe you don’t see it, but everybody else does.
I’m fairly certain now that most threads on this site have more words written by you than any other poster, and certainly the authors themselves. You are really, really into this place, and constantly trying to “referee” what goes on here.
Then you need to seriously review the way you analyze people to figure out of they are part of some conspiracy against you. There is nothing but White Gentile blood in my veins going back 500 years – and I assume nothing but White for thousands more.
Some have latched on to a few concepts that MacDonald and others have developed but I don’t think they get the heart of it. A poster, like myself, with no association to the site cannot be a “gatekeeper”. I have no power. I am simply trying to point out to new visitors to the site that there are a few crazy people that post. If some of you guys would dissent from the obvious cranks, it might help.
There are very negative stereotypes of White Advocates out there and we need to disspell them. I understand that emotions run high and people want to let off steam … but this is a public record viewed by tons of people searching for a new way to see the world.
And yes, the site means a lot because it was the first I had ever seen that explicitly championed White people and dealt with Jewish influence in an intelligent and balanced manner. Most of the posters are great, but there are some cranks that add nothing and simply want to hijack the site for their own agenda, and I resent it.
Jason Speaks Hebrew said:
“some cranks that add nothing and simply want to hijack the site for their own agenda…”
It sounds like you’re describing yourself.
And this:
“and I resent it.”
Nobody cares what you resent. It’s not your place to referee this site. Keep your thoughts to yourself or we’ll always be letting you know what we think of you.
D.K. you’re hallucinating,
“Even if you think saying “all the jews are scum. kill them all” is right and just do not post that here.”
I’ve never seen that sentiment posted on this site, so why the dramatic overplay? “Kill them all?” Okay now you’re just making stuff up because no one has said anything close to that. You must be related to this girl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENMV42eGTSo&feature=related
D.K. is right about the over the top tone some of the comments made here. I’ve ever seen that exact phrase posted here either, but the point is still well made. We get some posters that would scare off any normal person.
Why not listen to the people who show up and say “hey, I like this site, but here are some suggestions for improvement”. If I see one more post demanding we talk about “resistance tactics” I am going to blow a gasket.
Thank you Mr Kendall for the online chapter of your book and I do want to read the entire book. I think its vitally important that White people recognize what is being done to us and the consequences and I fully support all efforts by White elites to accomplish this. I fully support you and your work. I will contact my library and ask them to get the book and make it a book club selection.
I imagined a future in which jews get their jew world order as a place where all the races are stuck in racial zones and a few jews rule the world along with their shabbos goy underlings.
White Zones are besieged by hordes of non Whites who are starving and incapable of caring for themselves, so Whites have to have weapons and everyone is expected to defend the Zone.
The only people who are not subjected to the horrors of disease, starvation, continual war and bloodletting are the jews who will live in protected areas and enjoy a splendid life. I don’t think they would breed with other races although they would force it upon the rest of us.
The United States and Europe are the first to be zoned after White people rebel against what is happening.
To tell the truth its hard to imagine that the other races will just accept their destruction, not only White people but other races have pride and Muslims I simply cannot see as melting into other races and religions.
My view of the future world is a lot different than yours, but I think a discussion of the subject is desirable and I would love to hear what others think. I’m not an expert and it could be that we could be forced to accept a world race along with the world government the jews are setting up.
Barbera;
I am so glad you asked. Now I can give my opinion without seeming to preach, lecture, etc.
Here’s how i see it:
We are going to have a world system, (much as I hate the thought) simply because you can’t squeeze billions of people into a big sardine can without some kind of system.
Ever open a can of sardines?
The only question is whether it will be ruled by Jews or those thinking people everywhere who understand that in order to live with dignity ALL need a place of their own, not just the Jews.
This is a Natural Law that is reflected in all religions that I am aware of, which is in turn a manifestation of mans instinctual desire for his own house, teepee, igloo, etc.
For one people to claim this “right” for themselves exclusively I don’t think will fly in the near future, if for no other reason than people like you and me are going to expose their false God, as the superstitious BS that it is….
So i’m betting that the thinking people of earth will do away with all dysgenic, insane systems such as Judeochristianity (an oxymoron) democracy, etc. an institute a system based on the immutable laws of nature and administered by wise elders who understand both the need for some (voluntary) diversity while (more important) understanding the need to be free from what amounts to FORCED diversity. (Social Rape)
Reading some of back-and-forth fighting on this list of comments… It makes me wonder if there is some precedent in nature, where a species dwindles to extinction-level numbers, and then the last of it’s kind collectively begin to exhibit lunacy or even cannibalism…
Maybe we really are finished; our cognitive superiority just being a failed adaptation to a biological absence of racial cohesion. Maybe for that, we don’t deserve to survive in the first place. They say, “birds of a feather flock togethor”. And what do white people do when they get togethor? Fight with each other over petty shit. I t kind of reminds me of that scene in ‘Terminator 2′ where Arnold and that kid are working on a truck, and two boys run past fighting over who killed who first. The kid says, “we aren’t gonna make it, are we? People, I mean.” And Arnold replies, “It’s in your nature to destroy yourselves.”
If that’s not the white race summarized in a conversation, I don’t know what is.
Barbara: “To tell the truth its hard to imagine that the other races will just accept their destruction, not only White people but other races have pride and Muslims I simply cannot see as melting into other races and religions.”
Hi Barbara.
I can’t argue with your point of view, not in the sense that the kind of future you foresee might not actually be the one to come to pass, rather than the one portrayed in Hold Back This Day.
Now, would the Muslim world willingly submit to a globalized melting-pot?
Well, that depends. As I see it, the world is being homogenized even as we speak, especially on a cultural level. But it’s a slow process, like watching a tiny seed grow into a tree. The point is – you never see the transitional stages between seed and tree, for it is too slow and too subtle to be perceived.
That’s the same process I envisioned when I wrote Hold Back This Day. Ergo, given sufficient time and unrelenting indoctrination on a global-scale, the insidious mantra of multiculturalism will have sufficiently oozed over the entire planet, taking all cultures and racial groups down with it.
Again, it’s happening now.
You see, today’s Muslims will not be able to protect the next generation of Muslim children from the onslaught of egalitarianism sweeping over the world. And the generation after that will be even more malleable to the homogenization of races, religions, and governments ‘for the sake of world peace’, or some similar tripe as that.
Even now, American Christians are giving up so much, accepting gays, mixed-race marriages, erosion of their religious freedom to celebrate and display Christmas symbols, and so forth. Think about how much we have already surrendered in the name of so-called ‘racial harmony’. Think too of all the other things we have let be taken from us, which we wouldn’t have stood for a mere generation ago.
Seeds grow slowly.
Some seeds are good.
Others – poisonous.
And the seed that is growing throughout the world today is multiculturalism. Fertilize it with enough government-mandated indoctrination in our schools and within two or three generations that seed will quite likely grow into something resembling the stagnant, fear-ridden world depicted in Hold Back This Day.
Ward Kendall
Two of my favorite scenes in the book; when he looks at all the dark faces on the monotrans traveling through Africa. Not unusal until one considers the train originated in Europe. The second, Yehudit finding the protagonist’s archaic Anglo morphology repugnant. The skin tone scale was also great. Didn’t Beck’s rants about all religions being equal remind anyone of the universal religion of Mr. Kendall’s book? I thought of it instantly when it was uttered.
@Christopher Monti
Hate is good.. :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mbNzg2YUQ&feature=player_embedded
This Idea that the population of the whole world will become a color of light brown is very unlikely to happen .
Unless there is some radical change , the world will be made up of Oriental and Negro and various mixed race browns and jews .
Whites will virtually disappear from the face of the earth .
This Idea that the population of the whole world will become a color of light brown is very unlikely to happen .
Unless there is some radical change , the world will be made up of Oriental and Negro and various mixed race browns and jews .
Whites will virtually disappear from the face of the earth .
We may not move toward one uni-race. Steve Sailer and others have written about the tendency of powerful rich men to prefer light skinned women in all societies – even non-White societies, throughout history.
So when you look at the ruling elite of most countries, they are lighter than the poor masses. We see this pattern over and over – in India, the light skinned are at the top; in Latin America, the rulers tend to be very European looking. Why?
Well over generations the smartest, richest, most powerful men keep marrying the Whitest women. So, the theory goes, in time, the tippy top tends to be pretty White. Something tells me genes for fair skin are still going to be in great demand in the future, just like they always have been.
Here is the article, it’s good reading:
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/050612_blondes.htm
The future: The year 2050. World population will be 10+ billion humans, mostly brown people. Western nations will be unwilling and unable to turn away population and climate refugees. Western nations will be swamped to death under the load of constant hordes of uneducated, low IQ, criminally minded, violent brown people.
The US and Canada will resemble the gang ridden wastelands and favelas of South America. Europe will resemble some eighth century caliphate of the Arab world. Australia will be Asia.
Half the white race that we know today will be gone, having bred themselves away, producing halfbreed nonwhite children. The only whites remaining will be those who have made a conscious commitment to preserving our race, culture, and producing white children. We will be the rarest of diamonds in a world of s***. The natural world will be destroyed by hordes of starving brown people moving like plagues of locusts across the landscape, eating every animal in their paths and cutting down every last tree.
This world will end, not with a bang, but with the most pathetic of self induced whimpers, as all beautiful things are consumed by a great wave of eaters, breathers, birthers, and sh*ters.
The future is an open mouth pouring food into one side, complaints from the other, and an enormous gaping maw of an ars*hole spreading it’s defecation across the globe.
Ride the tiger. Hopefully some of us and our children can make it through this impending storm of filth and emerge clean on the other side.
With regard to developing Talking Points for use on other blogs, websites and forums, here are some ideas for introducing neophytes to the issue of Jewish influence in the US, in a way that will not turn most of them off and will neutralize some of the kneejerk criticism.
Point out that it is legitimate to discuss Jewish power, in the same way that White Gentiles have been critiqued throughout the 20th century. Exploring Jewish culture and influence is not hateful, it is sociology, just like any other examination, like that of Whites or Hispanics or Muslims. There are discussions of “White privilege” all the time. Discussing “Jewish privilege” is the same thing.
Point out that there is a lack of diversity in key institutions of American life, especially in the media and Wall Street. If many of the power positions are held by one group (Jewish in this case), doesn’t this lead to a lack of representation for the many groups inside the US?
Point out how strange it would be if most of the power players on Wall Street were Mormon, the Fed chairman was Mormon, the Fed chairmen for the last 30 years have been Mormon, many of the regulators were Mormon, and a Mormon firm had been at the center of the financial crisis and bailout of 2009. Do you think we’d be hearing more about it? The answer is obviously, yes. Point out that you can literally replace the word ‘Mormon’ with ‘Jewish’ and you are describing current reality. Then ask, are we failing to hear more about this due to the aforementioned lack of diversity in media circles.
All of this serves to point out the reality of Jewish dominance in our society in a way that conforms to current sensibilities.
Overly optimistic dystopia.
“In this future, planet Earth is populated by 19,000,000,000 people, all converging towards a medium shade of brown, almost all of indeterminate race.”
(1) This sounds like an important book for all to read, but, at least as I understand it from the fine review, all on earth are converging into the same “medium shade of brown.” How, I wonder, were such people as the Chinese or even the Mexicans persuaded or coerced into accepting this? Hence this scenario is way too optimistic. It is Whites who are being targeted. If all races were speeding down the global off-ramp to extinction, we might at least have a few enraged allies. The Chinese, the people of India, Mexicans, Nigerians, you name it, don’t even debate these things–because this would be unthinkable in their homelands.
(2) I am personally suspicious of any future dystopia that in any way depends upon a favorable solution that involves space travel. Space travel only takes place as a result of highly advanced civilizations that are extremely wealthy and dynamic (okay, the Soviet Union, but their program began to peter out and Russia still has vast almost untapped natural resources). After all, we would be on Mars by now if money had been no object. As the West continues to sink into becoming part of the Third World, space-travel-grade wealth, including physical and intellectual infrastructure, ultimately based on a cornucopia of mostly fossil natural resources and at least carefully managed sustainable natural resources, and coherent, partly race-based traits of character, values and traditions, will disappear.
(3) I heartily agree that actions in pursuit of White survival should be legal. However some commentators here seem to assume that the only choice is the ballot or the bullet. And they somehow believe this after we have been propagandized for decades about the saintly actions of peaceful ‘Civil Rights’ disobedience. There are a lot of areas where Whites are clearly being discriminated against, by the law and especially by its purposeful non-enforcement. Certain well planed but entirely honest acts of civil disobedience, recorded and reaching their way to large White audiences on the Internet could cause a lot of now slumbering Whites to identify with other ordinary Whites getting pummeled and arrested, causing the viewers to awaken from their PC narcolepsy. However, as Richard Spencer and others have warned, this should never be presented, by word or, especially, symbolically, as our simply being one more interest group whining for more crumbs from the table of power–because we are not.
(4) Despite what I said about the too optimistic dystopia, our survival depends on our being as positively constructive as possible. Sometimes being cynically fatalistic sounds like a tough, sort of hardboiled detective-like realism, but could just as easily be seen as cowardly escapism. Few of us are immediately physically threatened. So it is easy to sound tough and fatalistic, pop open another beer and let our grandchildren take it in the neck.
(5) Our movement, if you can call it that at this point, can benefit from all different personality types. Even someone bitterly pessimistic might come up with some useful information or idea. But, overall, our survival as a people depends upon those with sharp and creative minds, traits that are not all that compatible with dwelling in a depressive crybaby funk.
(6) Those among us who are more constructively positive will tend to gravitate toward leadership, and they should remember that the best way to steer the discussion away from negative personal attacks is not to embark on negative personal attacks on people who make negative personal attacks (sorry about “crybaby,” a moment of weakness). Better to shift any unproductive line of discussion away from some endless back-and-forth name-calling session by putting something forward that might actually help our people to ultimately survive and thrive.
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Border Enforcement + Immigration Moratorium = Job, Crime and Eco Sanity.
I believe that most white advocates would agree that one of the primary problems facing the cause has been that the establishment has controlled discourse on the all important subject of race .
And here we have so called white advocates attempting to exactly the same .
This site is not about being friendly touchy feely or nice .
No poster has the right to dictate as to the content or tone of this forum . We are all allowed an opinion , but let’s keep it at that .
By the way , ironically , this is cut and paste from a feature article on this very site and it is very applicable here …
White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century is a sequel of sorts to Paved With Good Intentions. Readers with high blood pressure are warned: consult with your physician or pharmacist before reading this book. The late Terry Anderson’s admonition to his radio listeners: ‘if you ain’t mad, you ain’t paying attention’ aptly applies to readers of White Identity.
No one has any “right” to post anything here. Period. Posters have been banned in the past. We do not all have a right to share our opinions here. It is true that no poster can dictate what is allowed, but they too may give their opinion, as long as TOO allows it.
And some of the posts are pure BS by people who hurt the cause.
Yes, it is understandable that people are upset and it is important that they convey that feeling to other Whites and encourage them to get upset, too. The problem is that there aren’t enough Whites who are pissed off and it’s our job to get them good and angry.
@Ward Kendall – Now that you mention it, it is scary, the degree to which we have lost so much of our culture and our religious rights.
jews have managed to take Jesus out of the schools and turn Him into a controversial figure that causes divisiveness, encouraged kids to deny Him, yet nobody is allowed to deny The Holocaust.
I used to be a liberal. Today I read people such as Gail Kerr at the Tennessean and I can see how she is not attempting to help our situation but she is constantly tearing away at our traditions and culture, always agitating, always whining and complaining and attacking, part of the culture of critique.
But I would also like to point out that in spite of all of the media propaganda and agitation, any poll will show that the people do not want more immigrants, we do not want gay marriage, we do not want Mosques built in our communities.
The media can make it appear that things are a certain way but most of the time the reality is quite different. If we could just get enough people angry enough, we could tun the death squads from Iraq, Afghanistan and other nations in the middle east and use them here at home. I’m not proposing anything illegal, unless the current death squads and use of predator drones are illegal?
Somehow the post I just posted ended up half way up the page.
Preserving White race should become part of a question- do we want to preserve life on this planet! Different races of species Homo are biological reality and mixing them would be a manifestation of our total disrespect to Mother Nature.
Do we want to demolish what Nature has accomplished in millions of years? Are we really so out of our minds? Social engineers who are advocating race-mixing should be outlawed and punished this very second!
Races of mankind are a product of Evolution ( or God ) and it is sinful just to think about mixing them. To preserve our kin is not just our right. It is also our tribute to Mother Nature.
And remember, Nature is always right!
Barbara wrote: “But I would also like to point out that in spite of all of the media propaganda and agitation, any poll will show that the people do not want more immigrants, we do not want gay marriage, we do not want Mosques built in our communities.”
@Barbara: True. Many white Americans are resisting everything of which you speak. However, while we white American adults are busy resisting, we sometimes overlook the fact that INSIDE our classrooms, where our children sit under tight control, their brains are daily being pumped full of multicultural sludge, the ooze of ‘gay acceptance’, and the sewage of unfettered liberalism.
It’s like that scene in the movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”, when Kevin McCarthy runs down the middle of the highway and cries out, “They’re here!”
Well, we certainly know who ‘they’ are.
I know it and you know it.
But do our children?
In my novel, I more than once make reference to the fact that the children are the ‘special targets’ of WorldGov. Capture the minds of a society’s children, and then just twiddle your thumbs until the current generation of adults grows old and dies off. Then: instant New World Order.
In closing, I should mention that I have two children of my own, now young teenagers. In order to avoid being labeled racists or haters amongst their peers, what recourse do they have but to give in? Afterall, so many other whites have already given in. More sickening still, white politicians stumble over each other every month or so, all falling down to grovel before the almighty network news gods, apologizing over this or that racial impropriety. Oh, how the mighty are broken – daily! If that is the case, how then can our own children bear up to what we ourselves often cannot endure?
So, in one final sense, “Hold Back This Day” is intended as a grim and dire epitaph, writ large: we are losing the race war. Unfortunately, we are not losing it in some future year, as portrayed in my fictional story. The darker truth is that we are losing the race war at this very instant, at ground zero, in the here and now.
Ward Kendall
I have to agree with all of that and its depressing and scary. It occurs to me that your book should be made into a movie. Americana Pictures might be interested in such a project. Is that something you would be interested in?
http://www.americana-pictures.com/
@ Ward Kendall – When I think of movies from books like yours I think of Mel Gibson. Mel warned the actor who played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ not to take the role. He told him he would never work in Hollywood again. The actor replied that we all have our crosses to bear but it turned out Mel was right.
The thing is, Mel knew what would happen to him for making the Passion, yet he did it anyway.
There is a professional membership at imdb.com where you can get the contact information for Hollywood professionals, if you had Mel’s contact information and offered him your book, he might be interested.
Barbara wrote: “I have to agree with all of that and it’s depressing and scary. It occurs to me that your book should be made into a movie. Americana Pictures might be interested in such a project. Is that something you would be interested in? There is a professional membership at imdb.com where you can get the contact information for Hollywood professionals, if you had Mel’s contact information and offered him your book, he might be interested.”
@Barbara: Yes, I would be interested in such a project. However, would Mel be interested? Were a copy mailed to him (or his manager/agent) he might give the book a reading. Beyond that, who knows?
Anyway, there’s nothing in the novel that’s beyond current film technology to re-create. Even the NAACP might approve, since a film version would be a bonanza for non-white actors. As a matter of fact, Hold Back This Day would probably win the Academy Award for best picture since it would be so jam-packed with colored people it’d be racist not to let it win.
And then there’s the Jeff Huxton action-figure angle. BIG money there. Well, I could go on but better not. Still, in all seriousness, I would even be happy to see a well-made ‘comic’ book version put out, provided it was true to the story line. I think they’re called graphic-books now, or something like that.
The bottom line is we need to produce our own entertainment media, so you’re right to make such a suggestion. I’ll check out the Americana Pictures website and see what I can find out. – Ward
Please do check out Americana Pictures. I just checked the site to find out what is happening with Merlin Miller’s Liberty Ship movie called False Flag and he has put the script on the site. I read it and really liked it. I think he hopes to make these characters into a series.
Merlin is attempting to create a White movie industry and you definitely should contact him about your book. Also send your book to Mel, he might option it, you can never tell. This is what we need instead of just preaching to the choir, using movies is a great way to get messages out as the jew knows very well.
Barabara wrote: “Also send your book to Mel, he might option it, you can never tell.”
@Barbara: Would you be willing to represent me, for a fee? Heck, if you could get Mel Gibson interested in my book, I would be more than willing to pay you a fair fee for representing me.
Let me know.
Ward
I pray everyday that Mel is getting more and more fed up to the point that he is willing to make pro Western movies and tell the jew to take a flying leap.
Get me his contact information and you’ve got a deal.
There is precious little ordinary people can do, we are dependent upon elites like Mel. If an indy company makes a movie it can get lost and be ignored but if Mel makes it people are going to know it.
I hope that Mel has lots of like-minded rich, famous and powerful friends who would work with him on such a project as your book, so the jews can’t single Mel out to destroy him and the public is more likely to listen.
If I knew how to contact Mel I would do it in a New York minute. I don’t see how we have anything to lose and it might nudge Mel to take action that in his heart he is dying to take anyway.
It would be best not to have to go thur his agent who is probably a gate keeping jew.
@Barbara: I’ll research Mel Gibson and see if I can locate contact information for him or his production company. I can then email the information to you.
Ward
My two cents….stick to the subject. Don’t be overly influenced by annonymous posters. Dr. Kevin MacDonald and his list of approved authors are the ones to trust. Otherwise, it’s water off a duck’s back.
Anyone who thinks we’re EVER going to reach a “majority of whites” is sorely deluded and will end up being very disappointed. Shall I tell you about a “majority of whites”? I go to the grocery store here in my majority white town and the majority of whites are race mixers with nonwhite children. Every time I go! I went to the circus with my son on Sunday. The majority of whites were single mothers, many with one or more nonwhite children. I work in a dentist’s office and the majority of our patients are white. Not a single one has ever expressed even the semblance of a pro white attitude. THAT’S what’s really out there. It’s sad, but it’s something we all have to face.
A full half of our race has fallen away and will fall away in the coming decades. You’re not getting them back. You can water White Nationalism down to a series of bland slogans and catchy phrases, but you’re not going to win them back. They’re gone. And good riddance, really. Who the hell needs fairweather friends like that?
If you think I’m going to tailor my commentary to appeal to some b*tch who’s debating weather to have a second mulatto child or not, you’re seriously kidding yourself. We are a race within a race at this point. Realize it now, or have it stomped into your head by nonwhite boot later.
Fenria wrote: “Anyone who thinks we’re EVER going to reach a “majority of whites” is sorely deluded and will end up being very disappointed. Shall I tell you about a “majority of whites”? I go to the grocery store here in my majority white town and the majority of whites are race mixers with nonwhite children. Every time I go! I went to the circus with my son on Sunday. The majority of whites were single mothers, many with one or more nonwhite children. I work in a dentist’s office and the majority of our patients are white. Not a single one has ever expressed even the semblance of a pro white attitude. THAT’S what’s really out there. It’s sad, but it’s something we all have to face.”
@Fenria: Everything you describe above is exactly what did not exist when I was born in 1954, except for rare and remote exceptions. By the time I was ten years old, I was very self-aware of the ‘racial divide’ that dominated the white American mindset. Put another way, if you went around in 1964 and told random groups of whites that your mission was to ‘bring peace and racial harmony’ to America by promoting unfettered sexual relations between whites and blacks, marriage and mulatto children, the domination of our cities and our television airwaves with white/black love – AND THEN, for good measure, told these random groups of whites back in 1964 that men should be allowed to openly hold hands and kiss each other and EVEN get married, such a random group of whites would have looked at you as if you were INSANE.
What would they have told you, Fenria?
Well, I’ll just copy and paste the top line from your post to provide you and answer: “Anyone who thinks we’re EVER going to reach a “majority of whites” is sorely deluded and will end up being very disappointed.”
I hope the irony is not lost on you. Because, back in 1964, the vast majority of whites would have told YOU that the “majority of whites” would never be reached by any appeal whatsoever to remake their country into The Planet of the Apes.
Only – they WERE ‘reached’, weren’t they Fenria?
Just how, just why, and exactly by whom, still remains open to debate. However, one thing is certain: a vast nation of racially-aware whites were turned away from their core beliefs and remade into the gelatinous, groveling mass of cowardly goo that we know them to be today.
Now, to my point: if hard-fast racially-aware whites of the ‘60’s (keep in mind I grew up in that time period, so I know what it was like) could be ‘reached’ and completely flipped over to what they are today, then I contend that the reverse is true: whites can be reached again and be ‘re-flipped’, so to speak. However, it will never be accomplished by resorting to the street-antics of Neo-Nazism, or by wearing white hoods and parading with Confederate battle flags.
The answer is out there, I believe, and some of us are working towards the restoration of America as a white nation. On my blog Beyond This Horizon (which is under construction now, but can be visited) I will offer detailed ideas as to how this can be done.
Finally, no one can predict the future. We can only hypothesize what it might be, for better or for worse. You, Fenria, may be right. There may be no hope for the majority of whites. Even I acknowledge that possibility. But as long as we have breath in our lungs, and the will in our hearts, we should not go down without a fight.
Let it our Alamo, if it must.
Then again, let us hope instead it turns out like the Battle of Rorke’s Drift.
Ward Kendall
Here’s the cure for what ails you white man, breed like rabbits and slaughter your enemies. It worked for our ancestors and it will work for us.