Comments on: Mark Rothko, Abstract Expressionism and the Decline of Western Art, Part 3

By: who+dares+wings

who+dares+wings — Sat, 08 Oct 2011 06:44:10 +0000

A welcome and well reasoned examination of a slippery subject. There is no “s” in Duchamp. Jackson Pollock died in an auto accident not of liver failure. He was a binge drinker, but he never drank while he painted. His wife, like Motherwell’s, was a prolific and wildly successful artist in her own right.
Arthur Koestler gave Walter Benjamin the morphine tablets that killed him. Benjamin was a self medicating manic depressive recreational drug user. He may have accidentally just OD’d in Portbou and his Marxist pals mythologized it as a suicide for the victim bonus. Connor Dirk’s comments indicate an understanding of the difference between artists and art culture (the business of art). This is one is a keeper:

“Individuals who take up the very trying life of an artist are first artists, and only secondly, philosophers. Intelligent, sensitive human beings do not dedicate themselves to creating disorder. No matter his political persuasion, an artist is always practicing design, a reasoned arrangement of color, form, texture, etc., regardless of how subversive his spirit. An artist, by nature, cannot survive on “ugly,” despite occasional bewilderment of the viewer.”

By: Pierre de Craon

Pierre de Craon — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 04:57:46 +0000

@Free Thinker: My research confirms what my brain and memory already knew: Prokofiev wasn't Jewish (and that's just for starters). Even a "free thinker" oughtn't to play fast and loose with the facts, don't you agree?

By: Free Thinker

Free Thinker — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:41:39 +0000

MajikFireHornet , I think that a visual medium is more easily wanked about than music . One looks and concludes . Music requires more ambiguous digression that the ignorati would loose interest in . The other thing about Jewish Artistic involvement is that having the technical skill as in memory capacity doesn’t imply the artistic talent . Talent is the x-factor the inspiration that memory can’t create . Prokofiev is the same : His first Sym is interesting and the rest are boring techniqual constructions much like that Gilbert and Sullivan of the Classical world Mahler–boring and others often tedious . If these Composers weren’t Jews they would have been long forgotten .

By: Ciaran

Ciaran — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:44:35 +0000

@me: It's because Whites have taken a powder. We've ceded the field. Shame on us. That Dirk guy is right. We must get back in the game. On our terms.

By: MajikFireHornet

MajikFireHornet — Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:29:20 +0000

I recall seeing Helen Frankenthaler’s garbage canvases hung in various building lobbies during my NYC bike messengering years; wasn’t aware that she was also a “minder” of a non-Jew artist as well, but it fits the pattern. In visual art, the Jews identified one of the main symbolic integrations of white, western civilization and almost totally destroyed it. In music, though, they have not been nearly as successful. The Schoenbergian 12-tone empire of ugly noises collapsed at about the same time as the Tribal global communism project, and a fair amount of genuinely “communicative”/serious music is being written these days by anglosaxon composers…and even a few Jews. I have no ready explanation for the differing degrees of Jewish subversive success in the two symbolic realms, but it’s clearly there. Perhaps it’s because, having some degree of musical facility to begin with (vs. having none with visual) – e.g., Mendelssohn, Bloch, Mahler – the Jews felt slightly less hostile and so their assault was – though still tremendously destructive -eventually less successful.

By: Anglo Saxon

Anglo Saxon — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:33 +0000

@Free Thinker: You may be ‘free’, but you still have some proper ‘thinking’ to do. I would suggest your intellectual rehabilitation is still not complete because you still have Hitler, Goebbels, and “the Nazis”, et al, on the brain.

Goebbels eat your heart out.

Please wake up and realize Goebbels was made necessary by the earlier, Talmudic Judaefication of the Weimar Republic.

The German people had to be awoken and stirred by NSDAP propaganda lest they would never have climbed out of the slave pit of despair they had been pushed into by the machinations of Jewish international bankers and financiers acting without morals or scruples throughout the 1920s. Are you aware that by the late Twenties, some Germans had been reduced to eating grass??? Do you have any idea of the extent to which one of Europe’s greatest cities — the Prussian capital of Berlin — had been taken over, lock, stock, and barrel by so-called ‘Jewish’ characters whose genes originate from somewhere in the grasslands of Central Asia?

Why don’t you demonstrate you actually have balls and testosterone by openly associating what is happening now in the human cattle ranch known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA — and in much of the rest of Western Europe — with what happened under Bolshevism during the first 12 years following the October 1917 revolution?? That is the correct comparison to make, in contrast to sounding off silly sound-bites about a principled man named Joseph Goebbels.

Forget about your Goebbels obsession (i.e., stop slagging off the noble Germans!) and start learning about Soviet Propaganda. By a long chalk, it is far more sinister and anti-human than anything produced in Germany under the Third Reich.

By: Free Thinker

Free Thinker — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:02:06 +0000

I wonder if the revolution is still continuing . By creating expensive Wow factor Art Galleries , the scene is set for Idol worship , the Bilboa , Sydney Opera House , draws the people from miles around as would have Stone Hinge in its day .They come to oggle, to be awed , in a sense to worship and this sets the scene for hushed silence when these young middle class dupes are Wowed by urine , feces and blank canvas and the endless stream of gimmicks called ‘art’ that are supposed to make the young viewer gaze the navel–an effective tool of subversion .
What I suppose most of the readers of this sight find so very objectionable about the Jewish onslaught it that have set themselves apart from this criticism .And they have twisted the legal system with Hate Crimes legislation to prevent reverse overt public Criticism of Jewish Culture (note the lack of TV doc’s regarding the USSR ) , which would be a heavy critique of their religious books and Jewish social organization and Jewish influence on Western History . The Invisibles . I have said it before and I’ll say it again . This is a con job . The cry of victim is no different from the faking a sickie or pouring smoke suppressant into the oil of an old car before flogging it .
And what we view happening in the the European Foundered countries is the middle class cultural deracination and its replacement with multicultural government imposed quotas and the endless competition for toys and territory as a part of multi-ethic resource competition . Communism through the back door . A middle class society (TV generated ) in a constant state of alienation .Easy friendliness is replaced with hyper competitive en-guard transactions between classes and races .Where the first greeting is suspicion or a blank wall . Do I exaggerate ?

By: Free Thinker

Free Thinker — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:53:38 +0000

Fantastic trilogy , enlightening in many directions , thank you , my subscription is well worth it .

Also it is great to be amongst people who are allowed to pick and eat the forbidden fruit of our Zionist controlled civilization . When one reads/watches mainstream news media , journals etc , I rarely do anymore (get RSS feeds from any news service in the world [try Peoples Daily Online , for a balance view ! ] on Firefox–Sage addon to skim the happenings without being subjected to the insulting propaganda and intimidating brainwash ).. there is an huge hole in the analysis because the Zionist/Mason rulers have created media invisibility , so the real causations of events is invented ! It becomes absurd trying to have a conversation with a brainwash middle class fool who worship at ‘the victims’ alter and so are unable to see (discuss) that their Intellectual Identity is infact a Zionist construction ! If ever there was a propaganda constructed society , we now live in it . Goebbels eat your heart out !

By: Abe Goldstein

Abe Goldstein — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:06:13 +0000

@Franklin Ryckaert: No, it doesn't make me self hating, but I didn't realize that the Columbine shooters were jewish - is that really accurate?

By: Anglo Saxon

Anglo Saxon — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:33:37 +0000

I posted a comment on this same topic here at TOO about 5 or so months back. But, I think it is appropriate I now repeat.
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Taken from BBC News, Monday, 20 June, 2005, 15:43 GMT 16:43 UK

Three abstract paintings by a chimpanzee named Congo have been sold for £12,000 – after being given a price tag of just £800.

The animal art, painted when the chimp was three, went under the hammer on Tuesday at auction house Bonhams in central London.

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The three works were bought by US modern art enthusiast Howard Hong.

Bonhams said there had been a “fantastic” amount of interest in the paintings, which had been sold as one lot.

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Morris, author of The Naked Ape, had attempted to understand “chimpanzees’ ability to create order and symmetry as well as to explore, at a more primeval level, the impetus behind our own desires for artistic creativity,” auction house Bonhams said.

His encouragement led to Congo producing about 400 drawings and paintings in the late 1950s which were received by the art world with a mixture of scorn and scepticism.

Piss Paintings

However, Picasso is believed to have framed one of the chimp’s works on his studio wall after he received it as a gift, while Miro was also said to have owned one.

“I would sincerely doubt that chimpanzee art has ever been auctioned before,” said Howard Rutkowski, director of modern and contemporary art at Bonhams.

He added: “I don’t think anybody else has been crazy enough to do this. I’m sure other auction houses think this is completely mad.”

Also in the sale is one of Andy Warhol’s famous Piss Paintings.

To create the works he put copper paint on canvas, placed them on the floor and invited his friends and colleagues to urinate on them.

Dated 1979, Bonham’s gave it an estimate of between £35,000-£45,000.