Jeffrey Goldberg
My Trigger Finger still works
Jeffrey Goldberg (Journalist and ex-IDF Prison Guard)
When in my early teens, the Holocaust swept like an avalanche of pale ashes over Germany and other Christian strongholds, to the effect that dunces and denigrators alike declared themselves fairly mortified by a phantasmagoria so typically Teutonic in its perfection. During those years, much underpinned by kitsch-mongering Hollywood schmucks, the term Righteous Gentile made its debut, and for many years I wished fervently to be one of those. The aspiration lessened somewhat after the Sabra and Shatila massacres, and a few years later flopped altogether when I peeked, albeit with much hesitation and a few shameful side-glances, into a weighty and widely loathed pamphlet called The Culture of Critique. It set off another avalanche, though rather private this time, which has yet to die down. As my whole weltbild turned a somersault, I began to wonder if there might be perhaps a Righteous Jew about, one who could give me and my fellow compatriots the benefit of the doubt as to the greatest crime ever committed on earth. But looking near and far, I didn’t scrape up a single one. All I found were a few outcasts who dared to mention some smutty spots on their tribe’s snowy vest, yet turned decidedly mum when it came to fleecing Judaism’s holiest cow.
Now this has changed. The Atlantic, much renowned in the times of Longfellow and Emerson, but now fallen for an undisclosed sum into Zionist hands and thus an insult to every honest sailor who dearly loves this magnificent expanse of green and aquamarine waves, has of late singled out a vertical man for a spot of browbeating. His offence, believe it or not, is the incredible chutzpah to ask for some objectivity and common sense in the appraisal of recent historical events.
He is Gilad Atzmon, and his new book The Wandering Who stands a good chance to become a veritable firecracker under the elephantine hams of Abe Foxman and his assorted AIPAC thugs. Here I take the liberty to point out, as an appetizer so to say, a few hilarious if not hideous locutions in the aforementioned browbeating which is peddled to the astounded public as a critical assessment of the said book.
As author of the blather signs one Jeffrey Goldberg, ex-IDF prison guard and self-made journalist. It is him, you have guessed rightly, who graces the photo above. Seen at close quarters, he looks remarkably like a bovine reincarnation with rimless glasses, particularly when smirking. His style of writing, a compilation of platitudinous snorts, mendacious grunts and defamatory farts, reflects his former job where he probably told all those incarcerated Pallies that they had, by divine decree and the power of his trigger finger, no right at all to freedom or their ancestral lands.
His piece is titled John Mearsheimer Endorses a Hitler Apologist and Holocaust Revisionist, and this is how it sets out.
Gilad Atzmon is a jazz saxophonist who lives in London and who has a side gig disseminating the wildest sort of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. He is an ex-Israeli and a self-proclaimed “self-hater” who traffics in Holocaust denial and all sorts of grotesque, medieval anti-Jewish calumnies. Here is a small sample of his lunatic thoughts (bold text is mine [i.e., Goldberg’s]).
What makes you frown for a second is the last bit. But reading on, you realize quickly that the author emphasises those lines he deems to be particularly grotesque and mediaevally anti-Jewish. As in the book’s following excerpt.
I think that 65 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, we must be entitled to start to ask the necessary questions. We should ask for some conclusive historical evidence and arguments rather than follow a religious narrative that is sustained by political pressure and laws. We should strip the holocaust of its Judeo-centric exceptional status and treat it as an historical chapter that belongs to a certain time and place.
Ah yes… to ask for some conclusive historical evidence! And isn’t that a demand every honest and objective person the world over would underwrite without a second thought? That the freedom to do so constitutes a corner stone of every democracy true to its vows? So who on earth is the fellow who tries to tell us by emboldening this fundamental truth that it is in fact a hideous transgression? That we must believe unconditionally what we are told and only then can avoid the stain of being labelled anti-Semites or neo-Nazis?
Does this man really believe what he writes?!
There is no need to detail the gigantic bubble that must sooner or later burst with a lot of noise. It suffices to cite a few expositions of the most eminent Holocaust authorities on hand. Take that Dutch cheese head Prof. van der Pelt, a grovelling and bootlicking specialist on Auschwitz who shot himself famously into his own cheese foot by telling the Toronto Star that only one percent of the entire yarn is provable with physical evidence. Or the leading Jewish historian Raul Hilberg who announced solemnly that there wasn’t a blueprint, there wasn’t an agency, there wasn’t a budget, there wasn’t even a single written document, but merely the mind-reading of a far-flung bureaucracy who managed the whole thing kind of telepathically by looking down its nose.
Do they really believe we can swallow these statements without developing a serious hiccup?
But back to one more of Goldberg’s palpitations where he gets mightily displeased about another slur the ex-Israeli and “self-hater” shakes out of his sleeve, to the effect that Atzmon believes the Jews persecuted Hitler.
Come now! you may say. And isn’t that really a cake too big to swallow?
Well, just wait a minute… Here’s what Atzmon wrote:
Not many people are aware that in March 1933, long before Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany and began restricting the rights of German Jews, the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Gardens and called for an American boycott of German goods…
Jewish texts tend to glaze over the fact that Hitler’s March 28 1933, ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods, was an escalation in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.
There are indeed not many people who have seen the above declaration, but their number is growing steadily. Because as the stranglehold of indoctrination is finally loosing its grip, the historical back-up for facts like this are easily available and authentic beyond doubt.
Whereas Mr. Goldberg continues in his usual vein:
Atzmon is quite obviously a twisted and toxic hater. His antisemitism is so blatant that activists of the so-called BDS movement (boycott, divestment and sanctions), which seeks the elimination of Israel, refuse to have anything to do with him.
An agenda, by the way, that should be the non-plus-ultra in Jew bashing and hardly improvable, were it not that the BDS are a bunch of flea-bitten Marxist lepers and about as enlightened as Mr. Goldberg himself. Who finally arrives at the hub of his sorry concoction by stating an unexpected surprise.
Atzmon still has at least one friend among anti-Israel activists: The R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and co-author of “The Israel Lobby,” John J. Mearsheimer.
Who thus has outed himself as a contemptible pariah far worse than the BDS bums. And this because he thinks that
Gilad Atzmon has written a fascinating and provocative book on Jewish identity in the modern world. “The Wandering Who?” should be widely read by Jews and non-Jews alike.
Well, we’ll see… But let us meanwhile conclude this little exercise with Goldberg’s last broadside.
Now, Mearsheimer is endorsing the writing of a man who espouses neo-Nazi views. In other words, he’s not even bothering to make believe anymore — he’s moved from a self-described critic of Israel to a corrosive critic of Jewry itself.
Which makes me wonder once again if Mr. Goldberg and his like really believe what they write. If the extent of their self-delusion is so vast that they have long since removed themselves from the objective reality and entered a kind of Disney Horror Land filled to the rim with strange mirages where they follow a sumptuous and highly exclusive protocol while screwing the goyim out of trillions to pay for it. Or if they have always known exactly what’s up and privately laughed tears at our incredible naivety.
Whatever the answer, in both cases they’ll probably get swept off their gilded armchairs rather rudely once the bubble bursts.
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I’ve become almost immune myself to the extreme language around what is prima facie serious inquiry into the holocaust – i.e. looking behind the Nuremberg trials, into Hilberg’s sources, etc. I’d strongly recommend the internest video One Third of the Holocaust, based on Mattogno and Graf’s books as an eye opener. Having written history myself, there is certainly a big difference between holocaust studies and other history in terms of method and evidence. To be fair, there are those in holocaust studies who are becoming aware of the situation. And of course, volume 1 of Hilberg is substantially accurate, as far as I’ve heard.
Just this one line written by Atzmon would change people’s minds enormously if it were well known. I didn’t know it:
Jewish texts tend to glaze over the fact that Hitler’s March 28 1933, ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods, was an escalation in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.
If true, that changes the whole narrative. By the way, what kind of newspaper was this Daily Express shown in the article? Was it what would be considered anti-Jewish for any reason, or was it a normal neutral newspaper? If the later, the headline is devastating.
It certainly does change the whole narrative Jim.
This is from the Barnes Review:
‘Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the “New Germany” at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime.
The war by the international Jewish leadership on Germany not only sparked definite reprisals by the German government but also set the stage for a little-known economic and political alliance between the Hitler government and the leaders of the Zionist movement who hoped that the tension between the Germans and the Jews would lead to massive emigration to Palestine. In short, the result was a tactical alliance between the Nazis and the founders of the modern-day state of Israel – a fact that many today would prefer be forgotten’.
‘Thus, the fact – one conveniently left out of nearly all history on the subject – is that Hitler’s March 28, 1933 boycott order was in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership just four days earlier. Today, Hitler’s boycott order is described as a naked act of aggression, yet the full circumstances leading up to his order are seldom described in even the most ponderous and detailed histories of “the Holocaust”.
i’ve read quite a bit about the holocaust over the last couple of years. i’ve also watched all of the video’s at a web site called http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/
after examining the case made by the revisionists, i can’t help but find myself leaning toward the conclusion that it is the greatest lie in the history of man kind.
could i be wrong? absolutely, but the fact that 14 western nations will lock you up for even questioning the figure six million, leads me to believe that i’m not.
everybody should read the case made against the gas chamber theory, and conclude for themselves.
in my humble opinion, the likes of germar rudolf should be a household name in the west.
and just for the record, the person most responsible for starting me down the road of doubting the truth of the holocaust, is a guy named david cole. A JEW! everybody should watch his auschwitz video.
just my opinion.
@Lancashire lad:
“But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They [these measures] were taken step by step, one step at a time. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus — mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy.”
- Hilberg, quoted in: George De Wan, “The Holocaust in Perspective,” Newsday (Long Island, New York), Feb. 23, 1983, p. II/3. Also quoted in the Summer 1985 Journal, pp. 170-171.
What Hilberg is suggesting is that a major industrial process (ie. mass murder and cremation) was undertaken in a command-economy without the coordinating mechanism of private property prices. If he were familiar with Ludwig von Mises’ 1920 argument against socialism, he’d have realized how ludicrous this scenario is. Germany is losing a war, supplies are critically short, and the absence of market prices would mean that no means of allocating scarce resources exists. Without some coordinating mechanism, no complex industrial process is possible. And sorry to say, “mind-reading” will not fill this information gap.
Hilberg resorts to a deus ex machina. This is not serious scholarship.
The headlines proclaiming jewry’s war on Germany were in most large papers. The London Times and the New York Times both had the same headlines.
The musical genius of Gilad Atzmon (even KMD started out as a musician before becoming a shrink) has accomplished a masterpiece in prose and thought that boggles one’s mind. I know you will agree. It is a must read!!
Excerpts from the book:
“The `Jewish people’ is a made-up notion, consisting of an imaginary past with very little to back it up forensically, historically or textually.
“Nor has much been found in the Sinai Desert to prove the story of the legendary Egyptian exodus – apparently 3 million Hebrew men, women and children marched there for forty years without leaving a single Matzo Ball behind.
“Jews do not have a common origin, that their Semitic origins are a myth. Jews have no origin in Palestine whatsoever, and therefore their act of so-called `return’ must be realised as pretext for a tribal expansionist invasion.
“If Shlomo Sand is correct, then the Jews, rather than being a race, comprise a collective of many people who have been hijacked by a national movement based on myths.
“If Jews are not a race and have nothing to do with Semitism, then `anti-Semitism’ is, categorically, an empty signifier. In other words, criticism of Jewish nationalism, Jewish lobbying and Jewish power can only be realised as a legitimate critique of ideology, politics and practice.
“Professor Yeshayahu Leibowitz, a Latvian-born philosopher at the Hebrew University, was probably first to suggest that the Holocaust has become the new Jewish religion.
“This new religion is coherent enough to define its `antichrists’ (Holocaust deniers), and powerful enough to persecute them (through Holocaust denial and hate-speech laws).
“The Holocaust religion serves both right and left Jewish political discourse, but it appeals to the goyim as well, especially those who preach and advocate killing in the name of `freedom’, democracy and `moral interventionism’.
“That which maintains the Jewish collective identity is fear.
“To be a Jew is to see a threat in every Goy, to be on a constant alert.
“…whatever is good for the Jews is simply good.
“The Jewish population in the UK is 280,000 or 0.46 per cent. There are 650 seats in the House of Commons so, as a proportion, Jewish entitlement is only three seats. With 24 seats Jews are eight times over-represented. Which means, of course, that other groups must be under-represented, including Muslims. If Muslims, for instance, were over-represented to the same extent as the Jews (i.e. eight times) they’d have 200 seats. All hell would break loose.
“Jewish history engages with the basic question of whether a given account is `good for the Jews’ or not.
“The dismissal of factuality or lack of commitment to truthfulness are actually symptomatic of contemporary Jewish collective ideology and identity politic.
“In the Jewish intellectual insular world, one first decides what the historic moral is, then one invents `a past’ to fit.
“As long as we fail to ask questions, we will be subjected to Zionist lobbies and their plots. We will continue killing in the name of Jewish suffering. We will maintain our complicity in Western imperialist crimes.
“With millions of besieged Palestinians, Israel has given itself the reputation of a pariah state.
“How is it that, in spite of the Holocaust, Israel and Jewish lobbies invest so much energy in evoking hatred towards enemies of Israel and world Jewry?
“…envisage an horrific situation in which an Israeli so-called `pre-emptive’ nuclear attack on Iran escalates into a disastrous nuclear war, in which tens of millions of people perish.
The killing industry is an “intellectual property”-free-zone. Whoever invents a new, improved killing device must rely on secrecy. Once the secret is revealed, or when reverse-engineering allows replication, everybody adopts the technology, physical and intellectual resources permitting.
You have to ask yourself why the most efficient killing process – gassing – – was not instantly replicated by ever other despotic regime. Every other devilish, cruel, killing apparatus has been!
The proffered version of the holocaust only stays afloat because it implies chutzpah that most can’t imagine. Once the penny drops, then it raises the real question of what sort of power is it that enables a bankrupt, illogical myth to persist in the public domain unchallenged for so long. The gas chamber per se is less interesting than the story of the story of same.
@Trenchant:
Quite, no budget, sounds like a real priority for them! The cross-examination of Hilberg by Douglas Christie in 1985 is online too. It was a book by Paget that made me seriously question the whole thing. I’d spent years trying to figure out HOW it could happen, what there was in Western culture that could lead up to it, but WHETHER never entered my head.
My own feeling is that the best way forward might be to say that I’m not convinced by the evidence for a lot of this. I’ve also taken to mentioning that a lot of the evidence on the German side – e.g. Gerstein, who confessed to killing 25 million Jews – was obtained by torture, according a later trial under English rules of evidence.
@Scott Mollett: Thanks, I will look for the headlines from those other newspapers. I appreciate the direction. I think things like that are very persuasive. While some of the more strident web sites make good points, they come off as having such a grudge, and as “proof” they often reference other sites just like themselves, so I don’t think they persuade impartial observers.
Anything that mocks Auschwitz or uses a lot of loaded language (e.g Jew lies, Jew World Order, ZOG, etc) just won’t convince anyone, except those that already convinced. It’s also hard to be convinced to change your mind when it’s just some guy theorizing about things, as opposed to showing hard evidence from reliable sources.
Being able to point to newspapers, magazines and other publications from the period that were not anti-Jewish carries credibility with a much larger audience.
Who cares if this WW2 holocaust thing is true or not; my holocaust is Jesus Christ and that is that.
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The Goldberg Variations on the usual, tire theme and googling something recalled that Spiro T. Agnew once said led me to this writing tip: http://gtotd.blogspot.com/2008/04/pusillanimous-like-agnews-pussyfooters.html. Being a prison guard is often a prerequisite for a law enforcement job– to find out if one can manage the already incarcerated before being given the responsibility of managing the streets. Many don’t make it in that machismo nether world and move on to something else like writing about macho.
Typo: Make that “‘…tired’ theme…”
Jaffrey Golberg is a Jewish terrorist and killer who has turned into one of Israel’s professional propagandists.
There’re of course “righteous Jews” but they’re called “sel-hating Israel-threatening (SHIT)” Jews. Norman Gershman is one of those “righteous Jews” who made a documentary to prove how Muslim saved thousands of Jews in Albania during WW II by risking their own and family lives.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/gods-house-muslims-saved-jews-from-nazis/
@Sandy: I care because the ENTIRE downward trajectory, and self-immolation of the West is based on the Holocost (TM). And do STOP invoking Jesus; do recall that He threw the Money Changers out of the Temple, and had a few words to say about the Children of Abraham.
i would also like to recommend that people go to that site i linked to above and watch the phil donahue episode that had david cole on it to discuss the holocaust. it’s funny and eye opening at the same time.
it might also be on youtube.
In any discussion of Israeli depredations such as the USS Liberty attack or their role in immigration reform, to wit the destruction of White living habitat, one is always confronted with The Holocaust©®
People are sent to prison for merely looking into this, in fact Max Planck scholar Germar Ruolf was STRIPPED of his PhD for his analysis of Auschwitz
Thank Goodness there is such a thing as tenure or surely Professor Arthur Butz of Northwestern would have been out of work back in 1977 for his seminal work, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century
The Case Against The Presumed Extermination Of European Jewry
@Shiva:
Correcting a typo, it should have been: Germar Rudolf
I see the embedded links didn’t make it, therefore I will just give the URLs for the two works:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/
Truth must be upheld and lies dethroned.
@Shiva: i can’t believe i never heard of that book shiva. i’ve got it bookmarked to buy now though. thanks for the heads up.
Hollowco$t information is available at:
http://www.cwporter.com/ and
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
Carlos Porter has a number of articles with links regarding the veracity of the Hollowco$t.
When the Holocaust comes up as a way to silence researchers, it is always timely to change the discussion to The Decline of the WEJs, and discuss whether they peaked in 1995 when they could swing a mighty big dead cat as compared to today. Wouldn’t it be fun to change the subject and attackback from the side?
One clue that the decline of the WEJs is well underway is that the underlying psychology of their defenses has changed. At the beginning of their climb, perhaps around 1945, they made extensive use of a highly successful passive-aggressive strategy in which the Holocaust was used as a shield from the hurts from the non-WEJs. But by 1995 the WEJ people had changed to an aggressive strategy, reaching out to smear and lie about anyone at all who looked into the truth of matters. From a psychological point of view, this doesn’t reflect a growing confidence, it reflects a level of panic and obnoxiousness that has been reflected back on them.
Unfortunately, the WEJ people cannot learn from the past because they don’t understand the concept of cause-and-effect, and they always eventually go overboard.
So let’s make casual wagers as to when their little world breaks down, and we get to enjoy the decline of the WEJs in the same way they enjoyed the decline of the WASPs. I’ve got $10 down on 2015 as the year when their decline will be unavoidably visible, but not yet complete. They’ve got a long way to go down in their decline.
What made me question the holocaust, was the way the holocaust- defenders were arguing. I had seen it before, both with man-made global warming and with racial reality.
Because the defenders have no clue to what is fact or fiction, even if they believe most of it is true, they need to defend everything, even the most stupid story that defies simple schoolyard empirics and knowledge.
If we compare it with the way the argument about the moon landings, it is no problem to get people who believe this happened, (I am an agnostic here, but think they happened), to agree that if we created the moon landscape in a 3d computer program, we could easily see if some of the pictures are fakes or not.
Nothing like this with the ones defending the holocaust, where no empirical test, recreation and simulation in 3d, or any other experiment would suffice to disprove that something did or did not happen.
For instance it was not possible according to them to do a row of experiments to find out if Germar Rudolf was speaking the truth or not, when he said that cyanide reacts with iron in bricks and creates Prussian blue.
That nobody even tried to disprove him with experiments, but put him in jail and stripped him of his PHD, was what confirmed that the mass-gassings were a hoax for me.
Later I have found out that the gas chambers are soviet recreations, so we could not expect any proof from the walls about gassings, but nobody is supposed to know that.
One theory about the gas-chambers in Auschwitz that I find possible, is that they were bakeries. This would explain the smoke from the chimneys, the security and the look of the ovens with rails and all. As far as my knowledge goes, if they had been heated to 1000 C, the iron parts would break from heat fatigue, and you would also need to replace the firebricks pretty often.
Also the Diesel-engine exhaust used in Treblinka as poison gas defies simple rationality, since the Germans would have used wood gas, as Paul Berg have shown. Wood gas was what the cars in Norway ran on during the war, and we were a technological outpost in Europe at the time.
http://www.nazigassings.com/
Abraham Foxman, the ‘defender of the Zionist-regime’, has issued a statement on January 6, 2011 – calling Hamas a “Holocaust denier”. The dude expects to scare Hamas’ senior leader, Mahmud Zahar, for repeating the same truth which Jewish academic, historian and writers like Finkelstein, Roger Tucker, Gilad Atzmon, Henry Makow, Jeff Prager, professor David Nobel and others have been saying for many many years that Israel has been using the Jewish tragedy (at the hands of both Christian and Jewish Nazis) – as a political tool to silence its critics.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/adl-hamas-denies-holocaust/
Mere asphyxiation would satisfy Occam’s Razor more satisfactorily than gassings, in any case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/11/burma.thailand
@The Decline of the WEJs: Sadly, I would take that bet. I don’t see any indication that Jewish power in the US will start declining that fast. With 25% of the student body at Harvard and other elite schools being Jewish, they have a lot of people in the pipeline coming up. As far as I can see, their influence in the media and politics is as strong as ever.
But by 1995 the WEJ people had changed to an aggressive strategy, reaching out to smear and lie about anyone at all who looked into the truth of matters. From a psychological point of view, this doesn’t reflect a growing confidence …
I’m not sure, it could also reflect their feeling that they now have so much power that they no longer need to use subtlety and finesse, but can use more direct means. When Stalin started using bullets to make his point, it wasn’t really sign of weakness, just proof that his power had reached new proportions. I’m not trying to be a downer, but I think this will be a long struggle.
Remember, the WASPs were being actively pushed from power by a very motivated, intelligent and well financed group of activists over several generations. I don’t see Jews facing that kind of pressure from anyone at the moment.
Mahmoud Abbas’ past holocaust denial hasn’t stopped Israel dealing with him as the lesser of evils.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143752#.Toz-Ad5kZKw
You can find authentic histories written by the Rabbis Weissmandel on the internet and in big city and university libraries. Google MichaelDov Weissmandl and Michael Weissmandl to get going on the internet.
The Weissmandl rabbinic dynasty claims that the zionists were in league with the Nazis to kill all the capitalist Jews because the zionists were socialists and communists of various degrees.
The Weissandl rabbinic dynasty claims that the zionists urged the nazis to exterminate all the Jews over 30 so they would have a million or so children and young adults to indoctrinate with socialist zionist atheist thought.
The weissmandls were strictly kosher. One of their big beefs with the zionists is that the zionists were anti kosher.
In one of their books, the Weissmandls prove their contention that it was the various zionist organizations in European countries under German rule that made up the lists of Jews, submitted the lists to the Germans adn organized the submission that led to the concentration camps.
Over the last 70 years the Weissmandls have written many books claiming that the zionists went to the Germans and started the idea of exterminating European Jews for various reasons:
(1) to raise money from rich American Jews. That’s one reason they “saved” so many children, to get money from American Jews to raise the orphans.
(2) To start a communal farm highly socialistic state in the middle east to show the world that communism was good and that not all communist states were as disfunctional as Russia
(3) To get rid of the older Jews so as to have a million children and young adults to mold into the IDF and militant zionism and communism.
Summation is that the zionists killed off European Jews to create a new people different from what Jews had always been and to suck money from American Jews.
Very interesting point of view.
@Volksverhetzer: The beginning of dis-belief for me came in the 1980s with the Zundel trials, and the birth of a new term – Holocaust denier. All of the TV talking head news readers used it. It troubled me that a someone could be prosecuted under an obscure law, publishing false news, for asking questions about history and expressing an opinion. Why would the government take on a prosecution about false news, at the behest of a Jewish woman, when newspapers print and TV stations broadcast false news on a daily basis? The term “Holocaust denier” itself was false news, as Zundel was being prosecuted for questioning the number 6 million, rather than the “event”.
The interesting part, of course, was that one of Zundel’s defence witnesses was a woman who was at Auschwitz and testified that she had seen nothing like the events of the myth occur. The media only mentioned her name as a witness, not her testimony. This followed the pattern of all of the prosecution witnesses that were completely discredited under cross examination, no mention of what the testimony was. That clinched it for me.
The matters certainly weren’t helped by the fact that the largest camps had been captured by the Red Army. Which allowed Russians to control access as regards studying the evidence. In the end winding up behind the Iron Curtain altogether.
For obvious reasons, the Soviet side had a vested interest in demonizing everything related to the vanquished National Socialist regime. That would subsequently manifest itself in decades of recycling war propaganda garbage cooked up by the likes of Ilya ‘Germans Aren’t Human’ Ehrenburg and his kosher brethren toiling for the duration of the war @ the Political Directorate of the Red Army .
The post-war stretch that lasted 44 years permitted Judaic fabulists to practically run wild with their holocaustomania up until the collapse of the Soviet bloc. Which is when the local Polish researches could finally explore the problem without secret police kommissars breathing down their necks; ideological shackles or fear of ending up in Gulag.
Before you knew it, the sacred number ’4′ suddenly gets revised down to 2, and eventually 1 million.
As in total number of perished Auschwitz inmates; Jew and non-Jew alike.
@Curmudgeon:
I am to young for the Zundel trials, but it is interesting to see what made people start to question the mass-gassings in the first place.
I must say I was completely shocked when I found out it was a hoax though, and later came the anger, because I used to have nightmares about the gassings as a child.
When I think about it once more, the lies about the run up to the war in Norway, was what made me search out revisionist websites and fora where ww2 was discussed.
I had learned in school that the German attack on Norway was more or less unprovoked, and then I read somewhere that British historians were open about the British plans to occupy northern Norway, and that the Germans simply beat them to it. If the Norwegian historians had lied about this, what more had they lied about, was what I was thinking about.
Later when I had found out the mass-gassings were a lie, I still had the problem about the “Norwegian” jews all being dead to explain, and then I found the book “the dentist of Auschwitz”, where I learned about the sinking of the “Cap Arcona”.
Folke Bernadotte was supposed to transfer most of the western Jews to Sweden in ships, after he had brought the Norwegian and Danish prisoners to to Sweden by buss. The “Danish” Jews also went on the buses, and survived the holocaust, but the “Norwegian”, “Dutch”, “French” Jews all died when the British sunk the three ships. Official explanation for the attack, is that the British thought they were fleeing Nazis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Buses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_Arcona
Golberg need to be excused for his Zionist Jewish bigotry which defines everyone, Jewish or Goyim, criticizes the Zionist entity – is “an anti-Semite”.
As an Israeli ‘self-denial’ Jew – Goldberg will not admit reading former Israeli cabinet minister Shulamit Aloni who told her fellow Jew Amy Goodman: “It’s a trick we always play. In Europe, when someone criticizes Israeli policies, we bring in Holocaust – and when someone in this country (US) criticizes Israeli policies, we bring in anti-Semitism…..”
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/ottawa-42-increase-in-anti-semitism/
At Michael Colhaze:
How do you reconcile yourself to the collapse of German science and invention after the expulsion of its Jewish population? Germany has essentially been reduced to the level of China or some other goy nation. The ox has lost its driver, whether he simply scared him off or gored him.
@Brother Francis: Not true at all. Germany simply receives no media fanfare for any breakthroughs etc. Meanwhile, jews receive far too much fanfare. Look at the stories behind many of the Nobel prizes awarded to jews over the last few decades. In many instances, we have men who were named heads of University Departments via ethnic networking, and then they used their positions to make sure that any papers, etc. heading out had them listed as the originator, key person, etc. even when they did little or no work. Or in other cases, they simply stole the work of undergrad and grad students. The jews have no shame, hence the behavior. The term “jewish guilt” is an inside joke amongst the self-chosen, as they do not possess guilt. It’s something they see in non-jews and make fun of.
Historiaverophobia: First coined by ijil RHG in response to the common use of propaganda by ‘spin doctors’, and partyline answers, in deciphering current events and actions by instutitions or governemnts with particular self-serving agendas.
An entire race of people are complicit in propegating a giangantic lie – that many of them ultimately realize is a lie. This fear of discovery has driven their entire race from a natural state of sociopathy to something even deeper and darker.
@Brother Francis: Have you stopped beating your significant other? What will you do when the authorities discover that you are running a bawdy house as a cover for receipt of stolen goods?
These questions, like yours to Mr. Colhaze, assume facts not in evidence. Why should he or anyone else treat them with anything but contempt, Brother Francis?
Just for starters, if you can explain to folks hereabouts why Germany’s all-German, all-Gentile rocket scientists of seventy years ago became the spoil of war in 1945—and why its leader, Wernher von Braun, remained the most critical figure in the U.S. “defense” establishment for the first twenty years of the postwar arms and space race—you will have at least established a minimal measure of bona fides from which to launch a question that has at least a few shreds of factuality at its base. Till then, you might do better to return to any of the many channels of Tribally sponsored entertainment that your local Zionist cable or satellite provider is allowing you to pay for.
@Jason Speaks: “Sadly, I would take that bet.”
Absolutely! Ask for decent odds—say 7 to 3—name January 1, 2016, as the call date, and then bet the ranch. A comfortable, work-free retirement will be guaranteed—though not necessarily in a Gentile-run environment. Oh well, one thing at a time.
@Trenchant:
Wait until people understand exactly what the Naudet Brothers were doing.
The Zionists have been out to skin Walt and Mearsheimer ever since their book on the Israel lobby came out, hoping to “prove” that even academic critics of Zionism are closet racists and anti-Semites.
It’s just another variation of the same old shopworn organized Jewish ploy: “Acquiesce to all of our demands and all of our bullying, or we’ll tar you as a Nazi.” Now its: “Don’t even dare to turn over Zionist rocks and describe what you see underneath, otherwise sooner or later we’ll get you, too.”
But at this point, they’ve simply made to many enemies, and people are simply rolling their eyes. Unfortunately, they have their hooks in a lot of American institutions now, so those under their thumbs there can’t afford to roll their eyes. But thanks to the Internet, the masses are increasingly wise, which means a corner may have been turned and their extortion racket may be on its last lap.
Additionally, the 9/11 inside job is making huge segments of the American population look more closely at organized Zionist treachury and Jewry’s various self-serving narratives, including the Holocaust (TM).
@Volksverhetzer: Virtually all of the “history” of WWII is BS. British historian A.J.P. Taylor acknowledged in the late 1940s that the German expansion of the war was a direct response to British expansion of the war. His book “The Origins of the Second World War” 10 years later caused an Outrage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUngG2CRYdY
Here is a more accurate portrait of Vidkun Qvisling:
http://www.barnesreview.org/index.php?main_page=document_product_info&cPath=89_112&products_id=513
My father, 4 uncles and an aunt were in the armed forces during WWII. I grew up with friends whose fathers were in the armed forces in WWII. None of them spoke ill of Germans, virtually all spoke about Jews in a derogatory manner.
The myth of the 6 million didn’t exist when I was growing up. It seemed to start with the film of The Diary of Anne Frank. I remember my father watching for a short time, then muttered something under his breath and left the room until it was over. Although we made jokes about Jews in ovens, Jews being gassed, lampshades from Jews, etc. I don’t think I, or any of my friends, really believed
@Rich Pearson:
Quite so. The enigmatic Naudet brothers and their good timing! I read the Leslie Raphael piece long ago, and actually sat through various version of Gideon and Jules’ propaganda-piece. To laugh or to cry?
http://www.spingola.com/jules_naudet.htm
The predictably hysterical, over-the-top reaction by Judaic establishment to what I thought were unemotional, reasoned arguments set forth by Mearsheimer and Walt, demonstrate that the professors twisted themselves into figure 8 so as to ensure the impartiality of their piece all in vain.
The malodorous, two-legged turd who calls himself Foxman immediately fired back with a screed (hey, gotta keep the donors happy) trying – in a half-assed attempt – to convey that collectively Jews are little more than violin playing, chicken soup cooking martyrs on stand-by.
I don’t reckon offering Elie Wiesel to buy a used can of Zyklon B would’ve triggered as big of a piss-storm, to be perfectly frank.
@Lancashire lad: I applaud Lancashire Lad for mentioning the excellent, must-see documentary ‘One Third of the Holocaust’. I have also taken time to view this entire documentary, and while it was a little dull and boring at times – it was an educational experience that I am glad I had the discipline to complete, and I cannot recommend it highly enough for others who are curious about this topic. In my opinion, every White child and White adult should be required to view this documentary – as part of a nation and worldwide reprogramming of all White European people towards curing themselves of jewish induced ‘white guilt’.
@Jason Speaks
So is it the opinion of most of the posters here that vacines are a conspiracy or at the very least very bad medicine that is unnecessary? Would most of you say that children don’t need to get any vaccination?
I just want to know what kind of people some of you are. Vaccines are Jewish frauds according to many of you that should be avoided, correct?
Yeah, I think vaccines should be avoided.. Here’s JUST ONE example why I think so..
http://www.thelocal.se/36596/20111007/
Using tragedy to further their interest is an old Jewish specialty..
Alluding to my previous post, here’s another one to chew on.. this time it has to do with cancer..
http://www.naturalnews.com/033783_Komen_for_the_Cure_pinkwashing.html
Oh no.. What conspiracy?? Righhhh.. more like conspiracy facts..
Although Nancy Goodman Brinker started the foundation named for her sister, Susan (Goodman) Komen, who had recently died of breast cancer, in the early 80s, I had never heard about it until I saw a pink ribbon on a box of Muller’s elbow macaroni and immediately put it back on the shelf.
How does one escape from a global octopus?
I automatically categorized it as another kosher tax and suspected I’d find a link to Jewishness. I did. In an August 2009 article in Tablet Magazine, Allison Hoffman began his article about New National Jewish Democratic Council president David Harris with these words:
“In late July, when the White House announced the recipients of the annual Presidential Medal of Freedom, staffers at the National Jewish Democratic Council posted a bland little blog item on their website noting that two Jewsslain gay-rights activist Harvey Milk and Nancy Goodman Brinker, founder of the Susan G. Komen breast cancer foundationwere among the recipients.”
http://www.tabletmag.com/news-and-politics/13344/israel-second/
A ScienceDaily (Nov. 3, 2006) article entitled Research Linking Ashkenazi Jews And Breast Cancer Genes Beset By Problems stated: Genetic research over the past decade has linked Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity to an increased risk for hereditary breast cancer, so much so that certain gene mutations have become known as “Jewish ancestral mutations.”
Nancy Brinker has achieved fame and fortunte from her foundation, which is now worldwide. Among many other Boards and honorary positions, she’s a former board member of the Republican (formerly National) Jewish Coalition Board of Governors.
Wiki Answers writes that according to Charity Navigator, “the CEO of Susan G Komen, makes $531,924 plus bonus. This is a private charity, so there is very little information leaked to the public. That said, there are several jobs listed on many boards for $100,000 to $200,000+. Guess there is good money painting everything pink!”
My own extreme annoyance comes from the fact that the non-Jewish masses are once again captive donors to a Jewish money-making initiative that can hardly be avoided and that can’t be attacked, since it’s for such a noble cause. I have NEVER accepted the kosher sales tax, repeating what I wrote when I first learned of it a dozen years ago: if Christian clergy ever dared to put tiny little crosses on products to signify that they’ve been blessed, Jewish screams would be heard around the world, and the tiny little crosses would disappear. Instantly.
I know how the “global octopus” line wound up where it is, instead of where I put it, at the very end. It’s this darned new Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 that has everything–the cursor, the scroll bar, you name it, jumping up and down like a pogo stick gone wild. The global octopus doesn’t refer to the Komen Foundation alone; it refers to the myriad Jewish enterprises, initiatives, organizations, networks, everyplace you turn, ad infinitum . . .
“Whatever the answer, in both cases they’ll probably get swept off their gilded armchairs rather rudely once the bubble bursts.”
Let’s earnestly hope so!
The Judaic tribal network is comprised of 52 major organizations. I stress the word major. How many are there in total is Yahweh’s guess.
Now imagine what type of shytstorm this grouping is capable of setting off should the Teleprompter-Reader-in-Chief get out of line.
BTW, does any other minority group in America boast a dedicated liaison to the White House irrespective of which so-called political party may be in control ?
Abe Foxman – The Power of Self-Delusion
A study by the Gino Germani Research Institute at Buenos Aires University conducted on behalf of powerful Zionist-Jewish lobby group, Anti-Defamation League (ADL), relesed last week, says that majority of 1510 Argentinian (out of country’s total population of 41 million) who participated in the survey, believe the Jews’ first concern is making money and second they’re more loyal to Israel than Argentina…..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/adl-argentinians-hate-jews/