Alan Dershowitz: Policing Jewish Opponents of a War with Iran

Kevin MacDonald


Israel Firster and Iraq War architect Paul Wolfowitz addresses soldiers wounded fighting in Iraq.

Jews have always policed their own—a basic element of any successful group and a central idea behind the cultural group selection model of Judaism. A good example is the drama playing out now on the attempt to police Jews who are critical of Israel’s desire for a war with Iran. Media Matters, the leftist news organization whose main goal has been to attack Fox News, has hired MJ Rosenberg, the former AIPAC operative who is now a prominent critic of Israel, to beef up its foreign policy coverage. Rosenberg commits the sin of using the phrase “Israel Firster” to refer to people like Alan Dershowitz and the Israel Lobby generally. (Rosenberg did not invent this label. As discussed here, the phrase had been used long before by Wilmot Robertson, David Duke, and the Vanguard News Network.) As Rosenberg has noted, saying that AIPAC has dual loyalty is giving them credit for one more loyalty than they actually have.

Rosenberg’s argument bears quoting:

Right now, there is only one interest group in the United States that absolutely opposes any diplomacy to avoid war with Iran and which insists that the United States expressly state (as it has) that war with Iran is definitely “on the table.”

In fact, that interest group, AIPAC, actually got Congress to pass a bill, which President Obama signed, that bans any diplomacy with Iran without express approval of four Congressional committees in advance — as if AIPAC will ever let that happen.

Just read this AIPAC-drafted language that is now law:

(c) RESTRICTION ON CONTACT.-No person employed with the United States Government may contact in an official or unofficial capacity any person that-
(1) is an agent, instrumentality, or official of, is affiliated with, or is serving as a representative of the Government of Iran; and
(2) presents a threat to the United States or is affiliated with terrorist organizations.

(d) WAIVER.-The President may waive the requirements of subsection (c) if the President determines and so reports to the appropriate congressional committees 15 days prior to the exercise of waiver authority that failure to exercise such waiver authority would pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the vital national security interests of the United States.

Frankly, this makes me sick. Banning diplomacy almost guarantees war with Iran, a war that must not be fought.

I oppose war with Iran unless Iran attacks the United States directly. Period.

I do not want America to be dragged into a war that Netanyahu provokes and which the United States would then be dragged into. I favor diplomacy, unconditional diplomacy, with all issues on the table.

Another very ominous sign is that the Congressional forces advocating war have now settled on a weaker criterion for war—that Iran simply possess “the scientific knowledge and industrial means to build a nuclear bomb,” not necessarily actually build one or even intend to build one (LATimesObama likely to resist pressure to further toughen Iran stance“). As Philip Giraldi, writing at Council for the National Interest, notes: “There are about 50 countries in the world that have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon if they chose to do so, making Iran far from unique but for its persistence as a thorn in the side of Israel and Israel’s powerful lobby in the United States.” The LATimes article notes that 38 senators also signed a resolution that the Obama administration not pursue containment of Iran, a policy that leaves a military strike the only realistic option. The pressure on Obama is intense, especialy with all the Republican candidates except Ron Paul eager to flog him for not doing enough for


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Rosenberg includes a passage that should evoke righteous anger in every American. Despite the decisive role of the Israel Lobby in initiating the Iraq war, the vast majority of the people he is describing are White Americans, and I rather doubt that even one of them is a Jew.

I oppose war because we lost 4,400 men and women in Iraq, a war built on lies and false premises, conveyed by many of the self-same people promoting war with Iran. I don’t think we should lose even one solider in a war against a country that does not directly threaten the American people.

A  few months ago, on a beautiful Saturday, I was walking on the grounds of the Walter Reed Army Hospital here in Washington. (A friend got me in.) There were dozens of young guys being pushed around in wheel chairs by parents, wives, girlfriends, buddies, etc. They looked like injured members of the high school football team, except that so many were missing limbs.

I approached an officer and said that these boys seemed cheerful considering their situations. He said, “These soldiers are the lucky ones. They lost limbs and, worse, often testicles [from IED's]. But not their minds. In that building over there are the brain injured. Their parents visit too but you won’t see them out on the grounds like these soldiers.”

[Israel Firster and Iraq War architect] Deputy U.S. Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, left, welcomes 1st Armored Division Staff Sergeant Jason Pepper, from Waldwick, NJ, center, and his wife Heather, right, while Pepper’s mother-in-law Denise von Wiecki, background left, looks on during a welcome ceremony for troops of the 1st Armored Division at their base in Wiesbaden, Germany, on Thursday, Oct. 7, 2004. Pepper was seriously injured and lost one eye during fighting in the region around the Iraqi city of Karbala. (See here.)

So obviously, the Lobby is intensely motivated to squelch MJ Rosenberg. And who better to do it than Alan Dershowitz, since he is well known to be on the left and therefore shares many of the same contacts as the Media Matters crowd.

In an interview with neocon Alan Klein on WABC (see here), Dershowitz declares war on Rosenberg and Media Matters. The interview is interesting for several reasons.  Dershowitz is what Philip Weiss calls a PEP—Progressive Except for Palestine. I would simply call him a hypocrit—TOO now has 31 articles on the gulf between the leftist bent of Diaspora Jews and what’s going on in Israel. Dershowitz identifies himself as on the left but notes that it is important to keep the left safe for Israel. He’s an exemplar of the many liberal Jews who claim to be critical of some Israeli policies, like the settlements, yet fail to mount any serious pressure to change Israeli policy. Yes, American Jews can and do influence Israeli policy. But all of their energy is spent pursuing the leftist multicultural madness in the US, while turning a blind eye and implicitly supporting racialist apartheid Israel. Dershowitz: “We can’t let people think that there is any inherent lack of progressiveness in Israel.”  Good luck trying to persuade any reasonably sane non-Jewish progressive with that.

And in this case, the listener can be forgiven for coming away with the impression that Rosenberg’s opposition to a war with Iran marks him as a bigot and an anti-Semite. Indeed, Dershowitz claims that while he is an 80% supporter of Israel, Rosenberg is 100% opposed to Israel. Opposition to a war with Iran equals opposition to Israel.

Dershowitz congratulates the Center for American Progress for clamping down on staffers using the phrase “Israel Firster”. But Media Matters has stuck by its guns, so an all-out assault is warranted.

Like the rest of the left, Media Matters is funded by Jews, and Dershowitz wonders if these Jews are aware of where their money is going. Klein points out that there are very close associations between the White House and Media Matters, including weekly conferences with Obama administration staffers. There are funding connections as well. Klein points out that Penny Pritzker is a major donor and fundraiser for Obama and also contributes to Media Matters, and Dershowitz mentions Barbra Streisand and George Soros as major supporters of both.

So Media Matters is going to pay a price for keeping MJ Rosenberg around, and the Obama administration can look forward to pressure on its Jewish financial base if it does not do the bidding of the Lobby. All this is happening right before the heat is really turned up at the impending AIPAC conference and Netanyahu’s annual visit to Washington. (Last year’s conference created major problems  for the Obama administration, as Obama had to explain away a call to make the 1967 borders the basis of negotiations, and Congress gave Netanyahu around 30 standing ovations.)

Not that we at TOO are sad to see the pressure on Media Matters. They also play the game of drawing boundaries of acceptable discourse and have been in the forefront of the campaign to marginalize Pat Buchanan. (In the interview with Klein, Dershowitz calls Buchanan a “virulent anti-Semite” and claims that Buchanan is anti-Israel despite the fact that supporting Israel should fit Buchanan’s nationalist political bent. This is a ridiculous argument—that supporting one’s own nationalism means supporting Jewish nationalism even when Jewish nationalism has interests that are obviously incompatible with American national interests. I’ve dealt with it here; see also here). Buchanan specifically mentions Media Matters as one of his main enemies in his column on his firing from MSNBC, much to the glee of Media Matters. Media Matters also led the campaign against CNN for having quoted Peter Brimelow and TOO’s James Edwards. From their point of view, any discussion of whether White displacement is good for America much less good for Whites must be pathologized. And any comments that legitimize White identification and White interests must be completely obliterated from the mainstream media.

So they are now the focus of the same forces that would shut down intelligent debate on issues of concern to all Americans. It’s evil versus evil, but it will be fun to watch as the Jewish community frantically tries to get all its forces on page for the war with Iran. Defectors can expect a very tough road indeed.

 

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122 Comments to "Alan Dershowitz: Policing Jewish Opponents of a War with Iran"

  1. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    February 29, 2012 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

    It’s more important for Jews to keep the world safe to the diaspora (meaning a multi-kulti world) than having Israel around, because Israel cannot exist without the diaspora, and it’s obviously not true the other way around.

    So it’s not at all clear to me which side will eventually win in this struggle. It’s also not clear which side perceives correctly the long-term interests of Jewry. It seems to me neither.

    Because what they would need is moderate support for some moderate nationalism (closed borders, etc.) of whites, because otherwise the US will collapse and Israel too, and good luck trying to rule the Mexicans and Muslims in the US and in Europe. This support for some kind of moderate nationalism would be compatible with support for Israel. However, they are incapable of doing that. A nationalist movement they infiltrate only gets hijacked to Israel-firstism or leftist PC mumbling, it’s simply impossible for the Jews to support whites even though stopping short of killing their host should be their #1 problem.

    It’s fun to watch, but nothing good can come out of this. Israel Firsters and their enemies are both lethal enemies of all whites, it really doesn’t matter, which one of them will eventually finish us off. I am also not really interested in the fate of Israel, except that if Israel ceased to exist, the millions of Jewish refugees from there would simply come to Europe and the US, further strengthening the left. It’s very possible that had Rosenberg had his way, the US and Europe would be going even faster down the drain.

  2. February 29, 2012 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    If the US attacks Iran, Iran will literally bring about a global apocalypse by shutting down the Straits of Hormuz and destroying as much oil infrastructure as they can.

    Iran does not have to win a set piece war; causing a global collapse is a win to the Shi’a mind. Also, unlike Saddam, it’s not just a fight against the most powerful tribe in a disunited country of tribes. It will be a war of all Shi’as everywhere, who are also a majority in Iraq and who are scattered throughout the oily places (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain).

    A war with Iran will be a war that finally comes home to Amurrikans. They will give us the apocalypse. If you want to talk survivalism, my blog is linked above. The most important thing in a collapse situation is the ability to boil water. You cannot take this for granted.

    Here’s a youtube promotion of a book called “Last Light.” by Alex Scarrow. It is a good read and a very plausible scenario of what will happen if we attack Iran:

  3. omop's Gravatar omop
    February 29, 2012 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

    They have been at it since the 7th Century. In 1290 17,000 jews were thrown out of England.

    Details read link:…..http://www.heretical.com/British/jews1290.html

  4. Kullervo's Gravatar Kullervo
    February 29, 2012 - 6:27 pm | Permalink

    I’ve seen other cracks in the edifice, of late. Last Sunday, on the Oscars, both an Israeli film and an Iranian film were nominated for an award and, lo and behold, the Iranian movie won! Now, I attribute this more to a political statement than any objectivity on the part of “the Academy”. It appears liberal Jews may actually be coming around to see the Israel lobby as the bad guy. This is testament to their characteristic flexibility and shewdness–they have forwarded their interests against Islam, but not so much as to jeoprodize their position on the home front. Indeed, they are the only heroes brave enough to confront these issues in the MSM, so it would seem.

  5. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 29, 2012 - 6:38 pm | Permalink

    In fact, that interest group, AIPAC, actually got Congress to pass a bill, which President Obama signed, that bans any diplomacy with Iran without express approval of four Congressional committees in advance — as if AIPAC will ever let that happen.

    Just read this AIPAC-drafted language that is now law:

    So this is all the Constitution and the US form of government is based on? Lobbiest with pre-written laws (for convenience sake) badger Congressmen with hubris and bold-faced demands, while conveniently shoving their pre-written words for inclusion into what Americans think of as ‘laws’? And that’s all there is to it?

    Luckily I don’t have to say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore, because I’d be wondering who I was pledging my allegiance to.

  6. lanceman's Gravatar lanceman
    February 29, 2012 - 7:08 pm | Permalink

    More and more people are waking up to the corrupting influence that the Israel Lobby has on the US. If the US is dragged by Israeli partisans into a war with Iran and that war goes in the same direction as Iraq, I would expect a backlash against Jews so vehement that Pat Buchanan will look like a Likudnik in comparison.

  7. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    February 29, 2012 - 7:19 pm | Permalink

    “And any comments that legitimize White identification and White interests must be completely obliterated from the mainstream media.

    So they are now the focus of the same forces that would shut down intelligent debate on issues of concern to all Americans.”

    Yes, and what becomes of all of those white Americans with legitimate concerns when those concerns can’t be discussed in polite society? They start listening to Pat Buchanan and Peter Brimelow.

    Buchanan’s last book was a best seller, as I recall. Great strategy, Media Matters!

    As far as Dershowitz – he reminds me so much of Duddy Kravitz it hurts. Duddy’s outrageous and self-serving behavior (in the film “The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz” ) is viewed by other jews as being the root cause of anti-semitism towards them. It’s an astute observation that is, of course, dismissed by the film.

    While you’re on Klein’s site, listen to the Mayor Koch interview. He calls Buchanan “David Duke without the arm band.” Koch openly admits that he’s more than willing to abandon all of his liberal Democratic Party ideals when it comes to supporting Republicans who support Israel. I guess that makes Koch “Benedict Arnold without the British officer’s coat”. (Except among us, of course.)

  8. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    February 29, 2012 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

    @Jim: I wish I would have kept the article, it was in the New York Times, and written by ex-Mayor Koch. It just blew me away. The whole editorial he wrote, had to do with the discrimination that “white men” are being subjected to. I do not remember in what context this discrimination the Mayor was speaking of, but the fact that he used the term white males, just blew me away. It was written I would guess, about 15 years ago.

  9. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 29, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    If there is one thing Hollywood is good at it is measuring the emotional temperature of the American people. They are watching the popularity among disparate groups of Ron Paul’s message. They are afraid that we have reached the limit of tolerance. The hands down worst thing that could happen to Jews in America is for Israel to attack Iran, on its own, and America gets the blow back. I have always found it odd that they understand us so much better than Europeans ever do.

  10. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    February 29, 2012 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    I started using the term Israel Firster a lot on YouTube comments and elsewhere because I liked it better than Dual Loyalist, and I hoped it would become widely used. As I recall, I googled it to see if anybody else was using it and got a few hits. It is easy to use for a comment on YouTube. For a comment on a video about Joe Lieberman and the Mideast, for example, one need only state, “Lieberman is an Israel Firster.” The Israel Firster crowd does not seem really to know how to respond.

  11. February 29, 2012 - 10:59 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow:

    Good point, Hedgerow.

    Your comment highlights the power of language, using our terms (words), not theirs.

  12. mm's Gravatar mm
    February 29, 2012 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

    “…I rather doubt that even one of them is a Jew.”

    Probably wrong. See the list on Antiwar.com.

  13. mm's Gravatar mm
    February 29, 2012 - 11:13 pm | Permalink

    @mm: List of US casualties I mean.

  14. February 29, 2012 - 11:23 pm | Permalink

    February 29, 2012
    Alan Dershowitz: Media Matters could become Rev. Wright of 2012 for Obama

    Excerpt:

    The man behind ReportersNotebook, Michael Santomauro, denied that his email or blog is neo-Nazi in orientation, though he admits to questioning the narrative of the Holocaust and says he believes that Israel is a fascist state.

    Dershowitz said he is not on Media Matters’s email list and is only aware of the language they use when discussing Israel and Israel’s supporters because of emails sent to him from… (yours truly–me: Michael Santomauro)

    More:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/14/alan-dershowitz-media-matters-could-become-rev-wright-of-2012-for-obama/

    Peace.
    Michael Santomauro
    ReporterNotebook@gmail.com

  15. February 29, 2012 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: & Hedgerow …

    One could always kick it up a notch by saying …

    “xxx” is a militant anti-White Israel Firster Idiot.

    :)

  16. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    February 29, 2012 - 11:33 pm | Permalink

    The Occupy movement plans a protest at the AIPAC meeting. Click on http://www.occupyaipac.org

  17. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    March 1, 2012 - 12:00 am | Permalink

    The sad thing is that this whole debate about a war against Iran is entirely dominated by Jews. Americans now have the dubious privilege that their interests are discussed by two groups of hostile Jews : those who are “only” harmful for 100% (multiculturalism) and those who are harmful for 200% (multiculturalism + wars for Israel). That happens when your elite is formed by hostile aliens.

  18. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    March 1, 2012 - 12:21 am | Permalink

    @Hedgerow:
    As for the term “Israel Firster” as a propagandistic weapon, perhaps a stronger term would be “Israeli Patriot”. You could call someone an “Israeli Patriot” and then say that what America needs is American Patriots not Israeli Patriots and then add that such people are patriots for the wrong country. That would stress the idea of treason even more.

    • Abe Fauxman's Gravatar Abe Fauxman
      March 1, 2012 - 7:28 am | Permalink

      “Israeli Patriot” is fine with us.

      However I warn you; never, ever try to use the nicely rhyming, but abhorrent “Iscariot Patriot”.

      Farshtay?

  19. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    March 1, 2012 - 12:25 am | Permalink

    Those of you who go to church need to pray for the peace of Jerusalem during your church’s public prayer time. I have done it and it works. Psalm 116:2 is the direct biblical citation to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, so anyone who opposes you has to deal with that verse. After I did it (I am talking out loud during the time when prayers are solicited), mothers who have their boys in the armed forces came up to me and thanked me. Those well meaning fools who say we have to fight for Israel need to be told that Israel has rejected God’s son, God wanted us to fight for the Old Testament Israel, not today’s Israel. Tell them God intended Jews to accept Jesus, not reject him and insult him.

  20. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 1, 2012 - 12:43 am | Permalink

    Amazing how the sheeple are led by the crafty zionists.
    Gullible Goyim!

  21. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    March 1, 2012 - 1:11 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Great turn of phrase. Kind of like damning with faint praise.

  22. March 1, 2012 - 2:01 am | Permalink

    @Hedgerow

    I started using the term Israel Firster a lot on YouTube comments and elsewhere because I liked it better than Dual Loyalist, and I hoped it would become widely used. As I recall, I googled it to see if anybody else was using it and got a few hits. It is easy to use for a comment on YouTube. For a comment on a video about Joe Lieberman and the Mideast, for example, one need only state, “Lieberman is an Israel Firster.” The Israel Firster crowd does not seem really to know how to respond.

    Back in the 60′s, it was cool to be a Negro. In the 1970s, it was cool to be a Jew – just like the TOO article “Bob Dylan’s Double Game” told us.

    But now, in the post-false flag 9/11 era, it’s cool to be an Arab – and pro-Palestine. How will “G-D’s Chosen Jews” respond to their replacement by the new “favored oppressed?”

    They don’t know how to act.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy-QScHUSus

    As long time commenter “Tom Watson” might say: LOL

    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=955&cpage=1#comment-4604

  23. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    March 1, 2012 - 5:17 am | Permalink

    Alan Dershowitz resembles a walking exhibit of every Judaic pathology rolled into one. Then they’ve got lampshade survivor Abe Foxman who may as well have stepped off the pages of Der Stürmer.
    Here’s my question: couldn’t the self-appointed Judaic tribal bureaucracy @ least field individuals who don’t remind one of the anti-semitic™ cartoons ? LOL
    Have a look @ what the GOP shabbos goys are doing to up the never ending ‘aid’ to Israel worth $3.1 billion in next year’s budget, while 49 million Americans are on food assistance.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_ISRAEL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-29-15-17-45

  24. Hmmm's Gravatar Hmmm
    March 1, 2012 - 5:37 am | Permalink

    So just to test the assertion “I rather doubt that even one of them is a Jew” (referring to the 4,400 Americans lost in Iraq), I went to antiwar.com and checked the 1st hundred names listed. The fifth name, Steven Shapiro, is Jewish, as his photo appears to confirm (Google the name along with “Iraq”). Daniel L. Elliott is also a Jewish-sounding name (not as certain as Shapiro) and the photo you find when you Google him looks Jewish. Micah Aaron Hill, likewise, Jewish-sounding name, Jewish-looking guy (his photo can be found at http://www.vets.state.ne.us/fallen.html ). So that’s at least one, maybe as many as three, out of 100. Jews are 2% of the population. In other words, it’s about what you’d expect. This is not rigorous, obviously, but just a quick credibility check of KM’s offhand venom and, shocker, his supposition is immediately, obviously false. It is also bizarre in that this website published a piece a year ago about the 37 Jews then reported to have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan (commenting on a piece in the Forward that was linked as the source of the info). I guess KM’s passions get the better of his judgment sometimes.

  25. GREZCM's Gravatar GREZCM
    March 1, 2012 - 6:16 am | Permalink

    @Kullervo:

    There is more about the last Oscars.

    Agnieszka Holland’s “In Darkness” didn’t win the award either, despite her being a straight Jewess, or at least the Polish variety of Marrano, and her movie being a hollywoodized narrative of, yes, yes, holocaust. “In Darkness” was her 2nd major production on the holy subject, after “Europa, Europa”.

    The MSM in Poland reported her outburst of outrage for not winning the award. Mrs. Holland is 63, and the “In Darkness”, possibly, was her final attempt to win an Oscar, to no avail.

    After Spielberg’s “Schwinler’s List” and Polansky’s “The Klezmer”, the Hollywood crowd seem to be noticing, that Shoah is so overexploited, that it’s too late for epigones to cash in.

  26. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 6:27 am | Permalink

    @Rich Pearson:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy-QScHUSus

    That was an amusing video. I subscribe to ‘Atlas Shrugs’ (Pam Geller) and ‘FrontPageMag’ (David Horowitz), and especially Geller gets red in the face in fury that universities are allowing Arabs a voice. She had a hissy fit over Arabs going on stage and disrupting some Jewish talk or other. By the way, Pam Geller is frequently on the Michael Coran program, as seen on his youtube videos. Coran, a Catholic, is against all the ‘proper’ things Catholics should be against, and so he is in league with the Jews. He has on Geller many times, including Ezra Levant, and all three get together damning the Muslims and convincing Catholics we should all hate the Muslims/Arabs. The Muslims I don’t like either, the ones that are a certain ‘type’, but it’s obvious the Arabs and/or Muslims are putting a major kink in the Jewish agenda. For this we should be grateful.

  27. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 6:42 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Americans now have the dubious privilege that their interests are discussed by two groups of hostile Jews : those who are “only” harmful for 100% (multiculturalism) and those who are harmful for 200% (multiculturalism + wars for Israel). That happens when your elite is formed by hostile aliens.

    What a sorry state the US has come to. I’ve been reading ‘The Jewish Utopia’, as a link was provided on one of the TOO articles. I wish whoever scanned it at least scanned it in proper page order. But otherwise The Jewish Utopia reveals a deeper background insight into the Jewish Problem than I ever thought possible. It goes beyond more than I ever imagined.

    In researching (in my own amateurish way) the origins of religion, the closest understanding I have come to is that the Hebrews became privy to ancient secret knowledge, and then tried (obviously,, pretty successfully) to usurp this knowledge only for themselves, and clinching it by calling themselves ‘God’s Chosen’ and ‘the apple of God’s eye’, thus forever mesmerizing the Goyim. And the Christians too, including Catholics. (Though Catholics at least tried to keep a distinction between themselves and the Jews, but what with modern day ‘interfaith dialoguing’ and the Pope’s kissing Jewish a**, well the Catholics are a waste now too.

  28. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 6:53 am | Permalink

    @GREZCM:

    Agnieszka Holland’s “In Darkness” didn’t win the award either, despite her being a straight Jewess, or at least the Polish variety of Marrano, and her movie being a hollywoodized narrative of, yes, yes, holocaust. “In Darkness” was her 2nd major production on the holy subject, after “Europa, Europa”.

    I don’t watch the Oscars (its lost its meaning since Hollywood’s glory days when stars were truly stars), and so I had no idea there was yet another propaganda piece on the ‘Holocaust’ up for a possible award. Had it won, that would have been another belt notch for the Jews, so I’m totally glad it was bypassed. Sends a message to the Jews that everybody’s sick of their ‘the Jews were the only people, ever, to have ever suffered at the hands of the non-Jew’ meme.

  29. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    March 1, 2012 - 7:30 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Bingo, Brother Ryckaert. This is the classic implementation of the observation by Eustace Mullins that jews always try to own & control both sides of every coin. This is why I repeatedly point out that pro-Whites, White race realists, and White Nationalists absolutely MUST prohibit ANY involvement in our movements and organizations by jews who pretend to be on our side, in order to snooker us into allowing them to worm their way into our ranks.

    Our arguments and our positions and our resistance and our opposition to the jewish agenda – must come from OUR OWN mouths, and not filtered through the mouths, pens, or keyboards of our mortal enemies.

    Thus, for those Whites who still haven’t been able to wean themselves off the enemy controlled mainstream media – when you turn on your idiot box, and there are two or more jews on your 32″ wide screen – pretending to ‘debate’ the merits of some facet of the jewish anti-white agenda, this is your signal to either hit the ‘off button’ or, a minimum, at least change the freaking channel.

    In short, STOP letting jews control the language and the debate. Stop letting jews program you and tell you what THEY want you to think or believe on any given issue. Tune every jew you see or hear OUT immediately, except in cases where you might be trying to figure out what the enemy’s next propaganda maneuver might be – so as to better equip yourself to be able to see through it.

    And, remember: jews are chronic, serial liars and nothing they say can be trusted or believed.

  30. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    March 1, 2012 - 8:48 am | Permalink

    Did you follow this link to The Jewish Utopia?

  31. March 1, 2012 - 9:18 am | Permalink

    @mm: Don’t confuse CASUALTIES with DEAD. Opportunists/shirkers, etc. will be OVERrepresented in CASUALTY lists, but obviously UNDERrepresented in lists of DEATHS.

    Various kinds of “wounds” will suffice to get oneself shipped home, or at least OUT of the combat zone, and this will place one’s name on a list of casualties. But it is quite the opposite of getting killed. Jews are very much overrepresented among those “wounded war heroes” now collecting honors and benefits.

  32. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 9:24 am | Permalink

    @Bantam:

    No. The link was given by someone commenting on one of the T.O.O. articles. It’s

    http://iamthewitness.com/books/The-Ultimate-World-Order-as-Pictured-in-The-Jewish-Utopia-1957.pdf

    Part way down the pages begin to not be in correct order. It doesn’t matter much, just that it’s annoying, and I have to wonder why whoever scanned it could not put the pages in proper order.

    In any event the piece is more deeper than I had ever imagined it could be. It’s obvious that the Christians are following the Jewish game plane also.

  33. March 1, 2012 - 11:53 am | Permalink

    See Michael Coren, who has a Jewish father, but identifies as a Cathollic here accusing the rabbi and Jews in general of procucing anti Christian propaganda. He also mentions Hollywood. A must see: Michael Coren vs Rabbi Shmuley Boteach – Feb 23, 2012

  34. mm's Gravatar mm
    March 1, 2012 - 12:04 pm | Permalink

    @Jett Rucker:

    Ok, good point. My bad. I was, in fact, looking at the Antiwar.com “American Military Deaths Since May 1st, 2003″ list. http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php

    So, yeah, I was talking about deaths. Calm down.

    I’m further guessing it is the same list that “Hmmm” @ March 1, 2012 – 5:37 am looked at.

    Anyway, it occurs to me that KM might have been referring to the soldiers at Walter Reed, but I’m going to make another guess that at least one at WR was Jewish too.

    So my complaint criticism of KM’s aside still stands.

  35. Kullervo's Gravatar Kullervo
    March 1, 2012 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

    @GREZCM: That’s another good point–I noted it too at the time. Much less “holocaust” exploitation than in previous years. And if you look at the best pic winner and other nominees(haven’t seen all of them), there appears to be less “diveristy” and “gay” politics at work. That Mr. Knobs monstrosity thankfully wasn’t even nominated. Please, just show us a decent movie.

  36. fender's Gravatar fender
    March 1, 2012 - 12:53 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    There’s never going to be a Jewish utopia or “world order.” Due to their psychological makeup (paranoia, resentment, and hostility) the Jews are incapable of actual leadership. They can only destroy, level, and ravage. Every country that has ever had substantial Jewish leadership has been run into the ground, and as a result the Jews have always lost their own power as well. We don’t need to worry about a world order, we just need to worry about our own people.

  37. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    March 1, 2012 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

  38. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 1, 2012 - 1:09 pm | Permalink

    @Balder:
    Classic, deny, deny, deny. I love the part about the ancient antisemitic view of Jew controlling Hollywood!

  39. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 1, 2012 - 1:24 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:
    That must explain why they can teach the world the fine art of getting along with their neighbors!

  40. GREZCM's Gravatar GREZCM
    March 1, 2012 - 1:29 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    re: the youtube video

    I’ve once watched this troubled woman’s videos. In one of them she said, she had written to the Sassoons of Britain, so that they do something to “fix” wrongs in Israel. Of course, she was not concerned with well-being of Palestinians. Neither did she said that they responded…

  41. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 1:35 pm | Permalink

    @Balder:

    That’s nice, but as long as Michael Coran of Canada sits on the fence with his buddies Pam Geller and Ezra Levant (who is practically his co-host), and some other key Jews, as far as I’m concerned Coran is useless. He has no idea of white nationalism either, and his sole purpose it seems is just to keep the Canadians brainwashed while being entertaining.

    The “: Michael Coren vs Rabbi Shmuley Boteach – Feb 23, 2012″ , to help Canadians understand a Kosher Jesus and why Jews are leery of Christians ‘after 2,000 years of anti-Semitism, for instance. Just plain helping to brainwash the Canadians some more, with the blessings of his ‘co-hosts’ Pam Geller and Ezra Levant.

    Other than all that, he’s clever and amusing with his use of words.

  42. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 1:38 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    There’s never going to be a Jewish utopia or “world order.” Due to their psychological makeup (paranoia, resentment, and hostility) the …

    Thanks for that. There are times when I think if the Jews are all this ‘all-powerful’ as people seem to think, that I wonder just who are these Jews really, if not some alien Reptilian race as some say they are, and it seems hopeless.

    Your words give me hope.

  43. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    March 1, 2012 - 2:07 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm: He was obviously referring to the “dozens of young guys being pushed around in wheel chairs by parents, wives, girlfriends, buddies, etc.”, and of course to those upstairs.

    However, having 37 Jews killed out of 4400 fatalities is less than 1%, whereas Jews are 2% of the population, so obviously they have paid less than their proportion in the general population in a war which was primarily started by Jewish lobbies for the sake of the Jewish state…

    @blue rose: I think fender is right, but that doesn’t give us any hope. What fender said only means that our destruction will cause the Jews’ downfall as well. Although that might be reason for some bitter schadenfreude on our part, it’s still a very dark (and very likely) outcome.

  44. March 1, 2012 - 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I don’t follow Media Matters but in cursory research it seems to me that Media Matters as such does not use the term Israel Firster. It seems to be mainly this M.J. Rosenberg.

    I did a search of MediaMatters.org looking for instances of the use of Israel Firster. It produced ten hits — but in each case, the term was in the comments section, and I believe it was the same commenter, 4teepee, in each instance.

    Media Matters seems to be trying to distance itself from this, because those comment-sections are no longer visible online except through Internet caches. That spells backpedaling to me.

    This use of the term Israel-Firster by M.J. Rosenberg seems to be gratuitously provocative. In a recent column he explained that what he really meant was Netanyahu-Firster. But that’s not what he said.

    It reminds me of the young Jew at Occupy Wall Street who told an old Orthodox Jew to go back to Israel and ended up being prominently featured in videos purporting to demonstrate the vicious anti-Semitism of OWS. It seems that leftist Jews criticizing Zionist Jews can be like loose cannons, probably because as Jews they do not feel as vulnerable to whatever reaction might come, and thus lacking caution they tend to drag their non-Jew associates into unnecessary difficulties.

  45. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 2:19 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    I think fender is right, but that doesn’t give us any hope. What fender said only means that our destruction will cause the Jews’ downfall as well. Although that might be reason for some bitter schadenfreude on our part, it’s still a very dark (and very likely) outcome.

    Who the hell are these damned-able Jews anyway that they have reached such pinnacles of power and intend to take the world down with them? With this viewpoint all Catholics and Christians that support Israel in any way, including this ‘Judeo-Christian’ bullsh-t, are damned-able also. I can see that clearly now. And Michael Coren of Canada is not doing anybody any favors either.

    Well, last case scenario — come 12/21/2012 and the rightful Ancient Aliens return, wake humanity up, and restore our ancient history. Hell, I’m up for it — something completely different!

  46. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    as Jews they do not feel as vulnerable to whatever reaction might come, and thus lacking caution they tend to drag their non-Jew associates into unnecessary difficulties.

    And with that, Hadding, sums up COMPLETELY the idiotic Michael Coren ‘interview’ with this Rabbi Boteach. In the end the babbling interview was completely forgettable by the Canadian viewers. Aired for sheer entertainment value.

  47. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    March 1, 2012 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Funny now cohnservatives like Wolfowitz, Frumm, Kristol and Perle are so happy to have someone else die in wars of their making. If they are emblematic of how their people have behaved throughout history, it’s surprising they haven’t been kicked out of more countries.

  48. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    March 1, 2012 - 2:48 pm | Permalink

    FTA: ” Dershowitz is what Philip Weiss calls a PEP—Progressive Except for Palestine. I would simply call him a hypocrit[e].”

    Dershowitz is a hypocrite only if you judge his behaviour by the Graeco-Roman or Christian tradition: That good is universally good and evil unversally evil, and everyone should be held to the same standard. Once you realize that Dershowitz adheres to a Judaic tradition of ethics and morality, wherein Jews are supreme and everyone else inferior, why he always puts his tribal interests above all else becomes comprehensible.

    I used to wonder at the hypocrisy of most of the Jews I knew with regard to the Middle East and Palestine. Once I recognized that they adhered to a non-Western ethical tradition, their behaviour was understandable.

  49. March 1, 2012 - 2:56 pm | Permalink
  50. March 1, 2012 - 3:06 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: You know that Michael Coren is also a Jew, right?

  51. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    March 1, 2012 - 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Israel-firster is a great term. Sadly, too many “American” Jews are Israel-firsters. They should be held to account for Israel’s misbehaviour.

    The diaspora was not held to account for the likudniks and neo-cohns getting us into the war in Iraq. (We don’t yet believe in collective guilt). However, if we do get into a war with Iran, which will be due largely because of the instigation of the Israelis, the neocohns and their other supporters, it might be right for non-Jews to look at their Jewish neighbors, especially the ones most vocal in support of Israel, as accessories.

  52. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 4:04 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    No, Hadding. Michael Coren is a Tradition Catholic. I’ve watched enough of his youtubes and he’s even said so.

  53. Heather Blue's Gravatar Heather Blue
    March 1, 2012 - 4:04 pm | Permalink

    White Christians everywhere are the victims of liars. We are entangled in the web of a cult, a Cult of Liars whose number one goal is to trick and deceive honorable men. Our fathers and grandfathers were decent, honorable men. It is sickening that Jews used trickery and deception on these decent family members. These honorable men deserve better than that.

    Both the Protestant and Catholic Churches are victims of the Cult of Liars. The Cult certainly seems to be stronger than the Christian Community. Deceived, we changed our religion to accomodate their lies while they changed nothing to accomodate Christian truth. Until the Church faces the fact that she must get out from under the power of this Liars Cult and function wholey on her own authority the entire white race of people face extinction.

  54. March 1, 2012 - 4:15 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: If you check the Wickipedia entry on Michael Coren you will find that all of his grandparents except his mother’s mother were Jews by birth. That one non-Jewish grandparent converted to Judaism. I recall that when Coren was the evening talk-host on CFRB he mentioned occasionally that he was a Jew.

  55. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

    adheres to a Judaic tradition of ethics and morality

    So does Catholicism and all forms of Protestantism. It’s all based on the Judaic tradition of ethics and morality. And as has been often pointed out, Christianity is merely an extension of a Jewish religion. It’s no wonder Protestant fundamentalists were kicked out of England for fanaticism, whereupon they blighted the American shores. Next came the Salem witch-hunts. And the fanatical history of Catholicism, I expect speaks for itself.

    The only thing I stand apart: Jesus Christ was an Ascended Master, a Bodhisattva like Krishna, Buddha and Zoraster, an enlightened being who manifested among the Jews. His middle years are silent in the Bible because he traveled to India, and even to America (at least some believe this) among the American Indians. If it weren’t for religious ideologies, dogmas, and false doctrines, civilization might well have been far more enlightened by now.

  56. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    March 1, 2012 - 4:23 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: I just feel sorry for her, really. If she was in the wrong kind of society, she’d simply starve. There are actually hundreds of thousands of people like her, of all cultures, but if they weren’t in an advanced society they’d starve, because when your head is in the clouds in a third world society, you wouldn’t be able to even eat.

  57. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 4:32 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    Well, you seem to always know what you’re talking about, so o.k. I’ll check.

    I could have sworn I’ve heard Coren say on several occasions he’s a traditional Catholic. I became turned off when I saw he had nothing but Jews on his show. Maybe he converted to Catholicism? Either way, he’s a propagandist, either for Catholicism or Judaism, or both. Anyway, the person who’s channel I subscribed to who posts all of Coren’s videos once told me Coren was Catholic. Maybe he was lying to me. I don’t know. But either way Coren promotes mainstrem Judeo-Christian notions of morality and ethics, and as such he has a Judeo-Christian religious agenda of a man-made religion all the way.

  58. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 4:42 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    OK Hadding — you owe me one. I was right — Originally Jewish, he converted to Catholicism (note where it says “”converted to an institution.” — a man-made religion). Now he’s something called an Evangeline Christian (but note how phoney he is in this also, where he says ‘”The evangelical Christians may be intolerant, small-minded, and repellent, but at least they hold a consistent set of beliefs”. ”

    All in all, I saw that Coren was a phoney with a phoney set of beliefs, but I had no idea he was *this* phoney, as per his background. Thanks!

    wiki:

    He converted to Roman Catholicism in his early twenties while still living in England, but that didn’t last long. He said that he “converted to an institution.” He eventually converted to Evangelical Christianity in the 1990s, after a conversion experience as an adult, greatly influenced by Canadian televangelist Terry Winter.

    In 1991 Michael Coren said in a column for a humour magazine: “The evangelical Christians may be intolerant, small-minded, and repellent, but at least they hold a consistent set of beliefs”.

  59. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 1, 2012 - 4:44 pm | Permalink

    oops, sorry I meant ‘Evangelical’ not ‘Evangeline’. Same thing I guess though — a right-wing fanatic with Judaic derived morals and ethics, and with a scripted right-wing agenda.

  60. omop's Gravatar omop
    March 1, 2012 - 4:59 pm | Permalink

    According to this artilce in the Daily Mail [english website] Alan has a new opponent…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108386/Blackest-lie-history-congressional-candidate-describes-Holocaust.html

  61. March 1, 2012 - 5:11 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    From what I have observed, many New Age people, the kind that read Oprah’s featured authors (such as Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie and The Secret), have seriously messed up families/lives.

    A lot of New Agers seem to look down on traditional Christians, the ones with healthy, whole families. They feel more “evolved” and “enlightened” than those who hold traditional values.

  62. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    March 1, 2012 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    @Paul Weir: Hey Paul, could you be a bit more specific?

  63. March 1, 2012 - 5:34 pm | Permalink

    What’s depressing is that it’s so easy to be an ‘Israel Firster’. Here we are, trying to dissect subtleties of belief systems, forced to burrow through ridiculous ‘sacred texts’, trying to see the other’s point of view, and the further points of view of yet other groups who’ve been damaged or affected. We try to work out fair schemes, and the decent thing. All they do is grab what they can, cry “me, me, me”, defraud, damage, bloodsuck.

  64. March 1, 2012 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Israel’s former Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef 91, in his recent weekly Talmud lecture broadcast on Israeli radio every Saturday night advised the Zionist regime: “Don’t attack Iran. Learn Talmud and G-d will save the people of Israel and send Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to hell. In every generation, there are those who tried to destroy us and HaShem (G-d) saved us. Now, there is a tyrant in Iran, perhaps a reincarnation of Haman. We have no one to rely on except our (revengeful) G-d in Heaven,” said the Rabbi.

    Unlike Benji Netanyahu and Ehud Barak – Ovadia is not depending on Obama administration or the Jewish Lobby, which he did not even mention. Rabbi Yosef pointed out that there never before have been so many Jews studying Talmud and reiterated that HaShem will fight for Israel.

    Rabbi Ovadia Yosef who is head of Orthodox Arab Jews and founder of Israel’s political Shas party which has its member, Minister of Internal Affairs and deputy Prime Minister, Eli Yishai, in Benji’s government. The rabbi is a typical Zionist whino. In April 2001, he called for the annihilation of Arabs. In August 2010 – Ovadia prayed to his Jewish G-d for death to Palestinian and their President Mahmoud Abbas. He called Palestinan “evil, bitter enemies of Israel” and condemned any dialogue with them. In December 2010, Ovadia’s daughter joined wives of 27 Israeli rabbis urging Jewish women to avoid dating or working with native Palestinian Muslims and Christians. Rabbi Ovadia also composed an anti-Muslim song, entitled “Day missiles on Ishmael“.

  65. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    March 2, 2012 - 12:02 am | Permalink

    Wolfowitz addressing servicemen: in the wake of 9/11, this photo is truly an horrible example of bad taste.

  66. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 2, 2012 - 1:28 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Your obserations are irrelevant to me. I’ve never watched Ophrah or read Eckart Tolle whoever he is, and I am not New Age.

    I’m surprised though that you were able to formulate ‘observations’ without being confused or ‘not sure’.

  67. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    March 2, 2012 - 1:30 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    They feel more “evolved” and “enlightened” than those who hold traditional values.

    lolll come to think of it …. don’t you?

  68. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 2, 2012 - 1:31 am | Permalink

    Kevin, Would you write about Van Jones?
    Hes set to speak at SMC here in Soviet Monika.

    Also LA Times just did a puff piece bemoaning the lack of ‘diversity’ at Awards.
    Folks commented that comparing male/female is a joke
    if ya dont also compare joo/goy ratios of 3000? who vote!

  69. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 2, 2012 - 2:11 am | Permalink

    offtopic….
    found this in yr Dylan thread…

    did you know that Dyaln wrote a love song to the rosenbergs?
    the lyrics are online..

    and pete seeger helps the rosenbergs spawn at their ‘charity’.

    re:

    listening to Dr W Pierce’s, ‘The Hurricane’ about 12 years ago. The way he tells it the Black Journeyman Boxer, ‘Hurricane’ Carter, was seen murdering some Whites in a bar. Witnesses testimony led to his conviction for murder and imprisonment for life.

    But along comes Zimmerman and a song which (typically) turns the facts of Carter’s ruthless murders on their heads, eventually leading to his full pardon and release. It wasn’t only Dr Pierce who doubted the veracity of this decision. A few weeks ago while motoring alone on a long journey, I listened to an in depth discussion concerning this case between the Radio anchor and an investigative journalist who is very familiar with the facts. He verified everything Dr Pierce said many years ago and much, much more.

  70. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    March 2, 2012 - 8:57 am | Permalink

    @Rehmat: I would be perfectly happy for Israel to rely on Hashem and not the United States. Let’s try it out for 100 years or so and see what happens.

  71. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    March 2, 2012 - 9:11 am | Permalink

    @90404:

    Also LA Times just did a puff piece bemoaning the lack of ‘diversity’ at Awards.
    Folks commented that comparing male/female is a joke
    if ya dont also compare joo/goy ratios of 3000? who vote!

    yup, it’s good that some folks turned the tables, although not near enough.

  72. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    March 2, 2012 - 9:18 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:

    Wolfowitz addressing servicemen: in the wake of 9/11, this photo is truly an horrible example of bad taste.

    an understatement if there ever was one

  73. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    March 2, 2012 - 10:03 am | Permalink

    @John hearns:
    You cannot expect “good taste” from a people that considers chutzpah (=”shamelessness”) as their highest virtue.

    According to the captions these photos are from after the war in Iraq (2003) and these wounded soldiers are the direct victims on the schemings-behind-the-scenes of Wolfowitz himself. To feign “compassion” with their plight is the height of Jewish chutzpah.

  74. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    March 2, 2012 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:

    Let them also rely on HaShem for the billions in “baksheesh” we give them every year, which has made it easier for them to brib…er, lobby…, our elected officials.

  75. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 2, 2012 - 7:38 pm | Permalink

    I know it is only a Kabuki dance, but I am so tired of this crowd acting as though as we don’t even exist. The Nobel Peace Prize president has just promised his pals at the Atlantic that he will get us into a third war if Iran gets a weapon. Hell with the Constitution, Congress – us.

    I know that a lot of vets are fit to be tied about his apology for the koran burning. The tin ear of this guy is shocking!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/obama-to-iran-and-israel-as-president-of-the-united-states-i-dont-bluff/253875/

  76. Balthasar's Gravatar Balthasar
    March 2, 2012 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

    @fender. Jewish utopia

    Israel with its jewish leadership seems to be doing quite well. Granted they are getting some help. To the tune of £70 billion annually from the U.S. according to Baroness Tonge of Britain. (All over the British news media but conveniently unnoticed in America.)

  77. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 3, 2012 - 12:40 am | Permalink

    By the way, those who think the reelection of Obama will be a good thing because he will be less warmonger-y than the GOP might reconsider after Obama’s recent statements. He seems pretty willing, in his own quiet way, to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities Plus, if done before the election, it might help him win:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-obama-iran-20120303,0,5906341.story

  78. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 3, 2012 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    Kevin…In response to yr post above this..
    LOOKS LIKE THE JOOS GOT HER!

    Lib Dem Baroness Tonge quits over Israel remarks

    Lib Dem Baroness Tonge quits party over Israel remarks
    BBC News‎ – 1 day ago
    Jenny Tonge, the Lib Dems and Israel
    The Guardian‎ – 1 day ago

    BBC News – Lib Dem Baroness Tonge quits over Israel remarks
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17218291
    1 day ago – Liberal Democrat Baroness Tonge resigns from the parliamentary party after refusing to withdraw her comment that Israel “is not going to be …

  79. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 3, 2012 - 1:03 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Sorry I missed your post, I just said something similar. I suspect the foreign-policy establishment will come to the same conclusion no matter who is president. Obama is probably just as likely to attack Iran as the GOP. However, since this won’t be an occupation of Iran but instead a massive air strike, perhaps with limited ground action, we may be surprised at how little resistance the Iranians can actually put up.

    We have no way of knowing what kind of technology the US possesses but apparently we are so far beyond the competition that I rather suspect we can shut down any Iranian opposition to our strikes. It’s when we occupy and attempt to transform societies that we get into trouble. If it’s just a matter of sheer violent destruction combined with incapacitating the enemy’s ability to counterattack, I think the US wins.

    We may know the answer soon enough, because it’s looking like Obama will do this. Great, not only will young people have had eight years with a black man as the supreme authority figure, but he will have willfully used military power on several occasions. Some white nationalists think there are advantages to having Obama in office. Well, in some ways there are and God knows the current GOP sucks, but I still worry about the long-term impact of a decade under black rule (on the culture and psychology of young white people).

  80. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 3, 2012 - 2:31 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    I actually think this is just more posturing. If anything, Obama is more open and honest about his disdain for the American people and our institutions. The entire Washington crowd, politicians, media, lobbyists, all of them are an incestuous lot who rarely bring us anything but shame. Perhaps he will be the one who finally goes too far. I live in hope.

    When he was elected, a very wise woman I know said ‘Let that be an end to it then’ by which she meant all the guilt tripping. affirmative action and so on. I think this attitude is very wide-spread. The Nobel prize committee did him great damage by their international acknowledgement of him as the affirmative action President. He gets credit simply for existing, no action or accomplishment needed.

    If the Supreme Court upholds affirmative action again, they will also loose whatever credibility they have left. There are simply far too many white boys and men who have lost out to those clearly less qualified, and there is zero positive effect on society. It might be justifiable if some of those folks returned to the black community and made a difference, but just getting a better job, or becoming better qualified to defend indefensible behavior getting real old. It may not make the papers, but everyone I know is pretty clear on who the victims are today.

    I am most fearful of the Obama healthcare getting implemented with more people at the government’s mercy. I want everyone to have healthcare, but I do not want to pay for mine and someone else’s for the pleasure of getting in line behind two Mexicans and a Muslim. But, if more women are married to the government it may never end. The absurdity of a grown woman, a law student, admitting in a congressional hearing that neither she nor her partners are responsible even for her co-pay on birth control stuns me. The fact that so many women support her horrifies me.

  81. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 5:48 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I guess it all depends on immediate vs longer term priorities. Obama is possibly the only thing standing in the way of a war on Iran. He deserves a lot of credit for doing that. I don’t know if he’s there because of affirmative action, but he’s earning his passage by being willing to do what none of the white cowards sellouts are doing. The pressure must be intense.
    I’d be voting Obama this year for sure.

  82. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 5:58 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    A war on Iran is bad for us, because it makes Israel much stronger. The Israeli far-right (bascially everyone that isn’t on the left) hates Obama. This is the best measure of whether Obama is just like any other leader at the moment. He isn’t.

    Maybe the lobby can break him…probably….but the situation is that he will have to be broken. The other candidates have got their pants down walking in.

    White kids can probably live with a black leader. They’re going to get plenty more like that in the future unless things change. The best immediate way to support the odds of those changes taking place is by voting for Obama.

  83. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 6:04 am | Permalink

    @Balthasar:

    Tonge couldn’t substantiate her 70 billion claim and had to resign. No one has substantiated it since.
    The direct financial benefits aren’t 70 billion, but if you add up the cost of the wars and all the non-tangibles involved in going from the world’s most loved nation to its most disliked plus all the much higher social/civil costs of extreme multiculturalism…I think you’re looking more than 70 billion a year. Buchanan recently mentioned 40 trillion since the 60′s just on the multiculti thing.

  84. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 3, 2012 - 9:21 am | Permalink

    Reading articles like this makes me wonder how long this situation will go on before something happens.

    But we have to be honest here and really appreciate the ability of the Jewish activist to manipulate events in America as they are doing without any real resistance except for a few articles in the net.

  85. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    March 3, 2012 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    Attn: Dr. MacDonald: Here’s the Baroness Tonge story & quote:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/29/lady-tonge-lib-dem-israel

  86. Hmmm's Gravatar Hmmm
    March 3, 2012 - 12:21 pm | Permalink

    So if it’s the Jews who want America to fight wars in the Middle East to protect Israel, how do you explain this?: http://www.gallup.com/poll/26677/among-religious-groups-jewish-americans-most-strongly-oppose-war.aspx

  87. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 12:28 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm:

    hmmm – after the iraq war there was total denial that all the pressure came from the jewish lobby, and lots of arguments floated around how iraq was bad for israel etc, how some polls showed us jews against it etc etc.
    But looking from the other direction…the only source of sustained pressure is from israel and the jewish lobby.

    Read buchanan’s latest artile on it buchanan.org

  88. Hmmm's Gravatar Hmmm
    March 3, 2012 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    For those who don’t feel like clicking on the link, Gallup aggregated the religious internals from all their polls taken from 2005 to 2007 and found that of all religious groups they polled, Jews most consistently opposed the Iraq War, regardless of party affiliation, with 77 % against, 21 % in favor. Mormons, by contrast, an almost completely White religious population, supported the war 72-27.

  89. fender's Gravatar fender
    March 3, 2012 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm:

    Why would you trust what Jews say in the polls any more than what they say in their books and on their television shows? It would make them look bad if 95% of them favored annihilating Iran for the benefit of Israel.

  90. Kievsky's Gravatar Kievsky
    March 3, 2012 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm,

    I’d like to see what the polls of Jewish Americans were before the war, say in 2002.

    Jews aren’t stupid, and by 2005, intelligent people could see that the war was a mistake. Also, the ordinary Jews on the street don’t benefit as much from the neocon imperial adventure as the Wolfowitz types, so it makes sense taht they would oppose it in a poll.

    This does not change the fact that the US government is controlled by Jewishly motivated Jews pushing neocon imperialist policy in the belief that it is good for Jews, even though I’m sure there are many Jews who would say “not in my name.”

  91. Hmmm's Gravatar Hmmm
    March 3, 2012 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I just read Buchanan’s column and agree with it. But the obvious inference, if AIPAC supports a war and Jews overwhelmingly do not, is that AIPAC does not represent the views of most American Jews. I note in that regard that the critics of the war quoted in the piece above this comment thread are Jews –MJ Rosenberg and Philip Weiss. And both of them are harsh, public critics of AIPAC who say that it places Israel’s interests before those of the US. Paul Gottfried, a Jewish paleocon, also gets quoted a lot on this site. My point is simply that, contrary to the assumption that seems to underlie much of the writing and comments on this site, Jews are not a single entity with a single view. For the last 30 years, and especially the last 12 years, the Republicans have been much more loudly pro-Israel than the Democrats, and aggressive proponents of our various wars against Muslim countries, yet Jews have consistently, overwhelmingly voted for Democrats. If you poke around the poll numbers, you’ll find that Israel is ranked very low as a voting issue for American Jews.

  92. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    March 3, 2012 - 1:04 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Alice you have made some great points as usual. I can also affirm your reasonable concerns about health care in this country. A family member of mine gets excellent care on Medicaid, so I don’t see where people are suffering through lack of Obamacare, but I can see him screwing the system up!

  93. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    March 3, 2012 - 1:10 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm: I wish they would become more vocal as a group to oppose war with Iran, then, because actions speak louder than words. It certainly looks to us like the Jews would be happy to see the US continue to stupidly pour billions into Israel and fight their wars for them, suffer massive casualties, and care for and honor the servicemen (and a few women – not a misogynist here) who fought. I guess if a white nationalist country in Europe managed to get the US to give them billions and fight on their behalf, I’d be happy about it, and might mislead the pollsters into not thinking I’m a greedy, selfish, chicknsh!t cowardly a-hole.

  94. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 1:19 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm:

    Hmmm…it’s a complicated picture. If you are coming to this from a perspective of being white and realizing you actually care about the future for whites…then I would suggest beginning by reading KM’s books, and then a book, say “White Identity”. This’ll allow you to see that the position taken wrt hostile Jewish influences, is researched, reasoned, and not bigoted. No suggestion that all jews are evil or even most.
    You’re not at a level where you can be persuaded by already-awake often-angry-and-bitter white folk. Please…read the books and make a reasoned judgement for yourself and then come back and talk if you want to.

  95. EP's Gravatar EP
    March 3, 2012 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Most jews are pro Israel. Can we at least agree on this? I believe many jews to quietly support these Middle Eastern wars but since many of them are preoccupied with face value (how they appear to others), most will not go out in public and loudly support the welfare racist zionist commie state.

  96. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 3, 2012 - 2:20 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:
    You have been reading the Jewish media again, haven’t you? Why is it that people who clearly understand that they lie about everything else always assume that they accurately represent the American people?

    Obama is holding back because he knows the American people want no part of another war. Go back to post 911. Whatever the actual cause, at the time we all believed that it was Arabs/Muslims. We really didn’t care about the subdivisions. So we picked the biggest, baddest boy around, the one who seemed to scare all the others, Saddam, and made an example of him. This had wide support. If we had done what was suggested, go in, kick butt, and leave it would still be wildly popular. It was the madness of nation building, which Bush ran against, that turned public opinion.

    We may not be very bright according to you worldly wise, sophisticated Europeans, but we do catch on eventually. When the voices on the far right and far left start singing the same tune, it says something. Even the wiser voices in the Jewish media are warning Israel off on this one. Have they changed their mind or do they know that the backlash might be uncontrollable?

    Obama is like any other drug dealer, luring people in with free samples, and then, once they are hooked, he owns them. This is currently the greatest threat to freedom and human dignity Americans face. When the government controls health care and can casually disregard a concept as old and fundamental to us as religious freedom, freedom will have truly died in America. I might decide at that point to go live in Afghanistan, where they, at least, are willing to give all to live life according to their own lights.

  97. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    In this particular context, it’s not really about Obama so much as how much importance you attach to the question of a war on Iran. Obama is definitely resisting the Israel lobby.

    If you think he’s doing it purely because that’s where the votes are…then I guess the question is why the other candidates are not doing it. If he was doing things because the majority of Americans wanted it so, then that would be pretty cool. But even if you are right on that judgement, standing up to the Israel lobby is an incredibly stressful thing to do that in my view takes a lot of courage. And the Israel lobby really does not care what the majority of Americans want, or even what is good for America.
    I read a lot of media. One Jewish dominated media I read every day is domestic Israel’s. Another is Buchanan..another TOO. I also read the BBC, and so on. I also think and try to be intrepid. I am sure the same is true for many/most people who end up here.
    Buchanan asks will Obama be broken by Israel. So even he recognizes Obama is doing something that the other candidates are not doing.
    So my only point about Obama, is that if you think the question about the war on Iran is the most important issue for us at this moment, you should vote for Obama. If you don’t agree that is the key issue at this moment, then obviously you’ll have to vote as per whatever you calculate.

  98. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 3, 2012 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:
    I’m with Ron Paul on healthcare. Medicare makes sense as a program for the elderly, although it has real problems in cost containment, but the more money we throw into the healthcare system, like education, the more expensive it gets, and the lower the quality.

    No one even suggests the obvious first step, build more schools of medicine. Are we certain that all those immigrant doctors are really qualified ? Catholic hospitals are the largest group of non-profit hospitals in the country. How much sense does it make to risk forcing them to close their doors in order to provide free contraception to people who knew the deal when they took the job, or applied to a Catholic school?

    Take one look at centralized anything in America and it doesn’t work. End of story.

  99. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 3, 2012 - 2:43 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows: It is not about votes, it is about riots in the streets. Americans will not stand for another war, especially if there are boots on the ground, right now. Did you ever note how many Americans don’t bother to vote because they have no faith in the system? I repeat, we are watching a Kabuki Dance.

  100. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 3, 2012 - 2:47 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Alice – you know better because it’s your country and you are there. I hope you’re right. The way it looks from where I am standing is massive, consistent, powerful pressure to bomb Iran. Given the way your politicians seem already to be totally broken by the power of the lobby, I think it stands up that Obama deserves respect for the resistence he is offering.
    None of this is a reflection on the American people IMHO. I certainly have no snobby or derogatory views about ordinary Americans. No way.

  101. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 3, 2012 - 3:32 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:
    Sorry Mickey, I didn’t really mean to address that snarky remark to you. It is just that the condensation and schadenfreude gets old sometimes. Maybe we deserve it, but it is not helpful to white unity.

    Obama appears to be resisting pressure from the lobby because as Commander in Chief, he is the only one who can. I don’t see his promise to bomb Iran on behalf of his pals as the height of moral courage.

    Other candidates, with the exception of Ron Paul, are not even mentioning Iran, just mouthing the usual platitudes about supporting Israel. The only reason Ron Paul is not in front is because he really is too old. Even on mainstream stations such as PBS democratic commentators are mentioning the outrage of such a vow from Obama without so much as a debate or consultation with congress.

    I admire Pat Buchanan, but he is part of Washington too. Everyone, to our great shame, plays the game there. They do not speak for us.

  102. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    March 3, 2012 - 3:42 pm | Permalink

    @Hmmm:

    That’s why Jews are called back stabbers. Smile in your face, stab you in the back.

  103. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    March 3, 2012 - 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Ignore the entire mount Everest of evidence to the contrary and just go by what the piss-stream media report as ostensibly true sentiment of American Jewry on any given subject merely based on some ‘poll’.
    LOL

  104. Lombard's Gravatar Lombard
    March 3, 2012 - 5:28 pm | Permalink

    I doubt you guys really want Israel to go down. You think Jews have ‘dug in’ to your countries now… What about when there’s no longer a home base? lol and you think the holocaust is a guilt trip. Plus, having Israel at least provides a humanitarian option if you do decide to repatriate them.

    ‘ Israel Firster’ is not a bad term but if you think international jews really ‘care’ about that place, you’ve got alot to learn.

    Oh and i’m amazed that some people think Obama is anti-Israel. Right now, there are only two groups at the chess board and they’re both from the same tribe.

  105. March 3, 2012 - 5:47 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback: I see this 2% figure for the percentge of jews in the Us population. My observation and intuition tells me that this is bullshit. i reckon jews are much more numerous than we realise and the figure is probably more like 5%. I wonder waht Dr MacDonald has to say about this ? They deflate the numbers because it is to their tactical advantage.

  106. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 3, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm
    March 3, 2012 – 12:31 pm | Permalink
    For those who don’t feel like clicking on the link, Gallup aggregated the religious internals from all their polls taken from 2005 to 2007 and found that of all religious groups they polled, Jews most consistently opposed the Iraq War, regardless of party affiliation, with 77 % against, 21 % in favor. Mormons, by contrast, an almost completely White religious population, supported the war 72-27. End quote

    That is because the popular America culture portrayed Jews as being part of the “Judeo-Christian” identity while Muslims follow this moon God called Allah and his pedophile prophet.

    Jews are portrayed as victimes while Arabs as villians.

    As far as Jews oppossing the war in Iraq if you had a poll of lets say how many Muslims symphatize with Osama bin Laden you will find most American Muslims being very careful what they say to pollsters.

    As israel becomes more Eastern and ethnocentric led by a Rabbinic authority deeply genderly biased and hostile to Christianity it will be these very Evangelicals today who bash Islam who will be the Jews bashers of tomorrow. The culture they helped promote will haunt the Jews.

    In a way you have to give liberal Whites credit in the sens ethey didn’t fall for that propaganda as many conservatives and Christian Whites did. But then again any anti-semitic revolution in America will be led by these very same White Christians who are cheering for Israel.

    Then there is that old rivalry between Christianity and Islam and the general negative outlook most conservatives have towards Arab culture in general.

  107. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    March 3, 2012 - 8:18 pm | Permalink

    While white America had her collective nose glued to the screen of Judaic zombie box watching Leshawn and Darnell struggle over who’d force a spinning object outside the borders of designated field first (in the process helping franchise owner Mr. Halperin and his kosher underlings to the tune of a couple billion dollars a year), the zio-cons in D.C. are beavering away to drag America into yet another calamitous military engagement for the benefit of their favorite country on earth.

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/02/daylight_new_film_blasts_obamas_israel_record

  108. Scott Mollett's Gravatar Scott Mollett
    March 3, 2012 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:
    Jews are an ethnic group and Judaism is their traditional religion.
    a person can be a jew and a Catholic at the same time.

    I do not know who this Corun guy is but he obviously cannot be trusted.

  109. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 3, 2012 - 9:51 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    Oh, I don’t think Obama is standing up to Jews in the slightest. There is a reason they call him the first Jewish president. It’s just certain aspects of the Israel Lobby he doesn’t quite jump on-board with as fast – since there are disagreements among American Jews about how to proceed anyway. Some of the biggest critics of the Iraq war were Jews (e.g. Jon Stewart), not because they are ant-Israeli, but I suspect they just didn’t think this was the best strategy.

  110. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 3, 2012 - 10:01 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I agree that Obama has more disdain for Americans (especially white Americans) than any president we’ve ever had. He has no natural feeling for them, no organic connection. Much of his early years were spent outside the US, his father was a Kenyan and his mother a communist. How likely is a guy like that to care about white Americans?

    A lot of goofy white nationalists (yes I said goofy because a substantial minority of them appear to be goofballs) prefer him to a more established that white figure because they wanna “bring the system down, man”. They are basically loser hippies of different stripe. Now, I do think there are advantages to having a black man have ultimate authority of the US – it may shake tens of millions of “conservative” Americans out of their slumber. Maybe several hard smacks in the face will wake them up, but it’s a gamble at this point. Like I said before, it could just as easily emasculate any hope of a white resurgence in North America.

  111. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 4, 2012 - 1:06 am | Permalink

    Related, this just caught my eye………………….

    Harvard University professor Alan Dershowitz alleged Friday that Media Matters has “crossed the line into anti-semitism” by tolerating an employee who uses charged language to criticize supporters of Israel.

    Dershowitz, a liberal Democrat who is a staunch supporter of Israel, first started speaking out against the liberal media watchdog group last month. He went further in an interview on Fox News, saying Friday that Media Matters has crossed the line into “bigotry.”

    The professor directed his complaints at one staffer in particular, M.J. Rosenberg, for downplaying the Iranian nuclear threat and repeatedly employing the term “Israel firster” — an epithet that implies somebody’s loyalties are to Israel before America.

    “When you accuse Jews of dual loyalty, you invoke a canard that goes back hundreds of years and falls into the category of anti-semitism,” Dershowitz said. “To the extent that Media Matters hired him to do that and is tolerating him, they have crossed the line into anti-semitism.”

    Dershowitz called on Media Matters to fire Rosenberg, but also called on the White House to disassociate itself from Media Matters — warning that their cozy relationship would cause problems in the 2012 reelection campaign.

    “The president should do to Media Matters what he did to Jeremiah Wright — totally disassociate, rebuke and say ‘I stand with Israel,’” he said.

    Rosenberg, a senior foreign policy fellow, often writes about the heated rhetoric in Washington regarding the possibility of a conflict with Iran over its nuclear program. He is a sharp critic of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and has been warning the U.S. against joining his administration in any military campaign against Iran.

    Rosenberg is hardly alone in those opinions, but his critics complain he also resorts to name-calling in the course of making his arguments.

    In a column last month, Rosenberg argued that the “Israel firster” term is “accurate,” if not polite, in covering the issue of a possible war with Iran.

    “There is no need here to describe who the Israel Firsters are. They are those people (of whatever ethnic background) who invariably support Israel’s policies over those of the United States,” he wrote.

    Dershowitz, though, argued that Israel’s and America’s interests are aligned, and said Rosenberg was effectively accusing people like him of “treason.”

    “It’s the oldest of charges … accusing Jews of dual loyalty, and it can’t be tolerated, whether it comes from the left or the right,” he said. “The tent is not big enough to include people who have engaged in bigotry against the Jewish people.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/02/harvard-prof-dershowitz-says-media-matters-has-crossed-line-into-anti-semitism/?google_editors_picks=true#ixzz1o7q42pa9

  112. fender's Gravatar fender
    March 4, 2012 - 1:17 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    “Some of the biggest critics of the Iraq war were Jews (e.g. Jon Stewart), not because they are ant-Israeli, but I suspect they just didn’t think this was the best strategy.”

    Like I said earlier, we need to stop listening to what members of the tribe say in public, no matter how endearing they are. I forgot who it was, but there was some Jewish figure who literally said that Jews need to live in a state of permanent schizophrenia in people’s nations (an actual quote from an article on this site, I believe). Kind of like Ted Bundy, they have to have “masks of sanity” to get along with us.

  113. fender's Gravatar fender
    March 4, 2012 - 1:24 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    Here’s the schizophrenia quote I was talking about:

    “Moses Mendelssohn advised Jews to “live in a dual, deceptive mode, if not practically in a state of schizophrenia.”"

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/10/a-dissident-meditation-on-jewish-identity-a-review-of-gilad-atzmons-the-wandering-who/

    There you have it. I don’t think there is any possible way to trust a people who are so committed to deception. Heck even Gilad might be just a ruse. I honestly think the best way to combat them is to simply ignore everything they say.

  114. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 4, 2012 - 2:09 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    Yes, I notice the leftwing version of the “anti-war” movement dried up after Obama was elected. That suggests it was more of a pose than a serious position. I think in the case of Jews like Stewart, he knew the war was going forward anyway, so he could spit on it and count on it happening at the same time.

  115. Nothing is Free's Gravatar Nothing is Free
    March 4, 2012 - 5:02 am | Permalink

    Edward Koch defeated the first and only African American mayor of New York City, David Dinkins, using the immigrant vote. Jews intend to use immigrants to break black power as well as to undermine white interests.

  116. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    March 4, 2012 - 6:47 am | Permalink

    @fender:
    This criticism by Jews of the bad behaviour of other Jews is more often than not part of what I call the “not all Jews are bad” – strategy. Whenever Jews behave badly and run the risk of being condemned collectively, they cause a small group of Jews to criticize them, thus planting the idea in the public mind that “not all Jews are bad”. Of course this criticism is never intended to really stop the bad behaviour. You can see this strategy at work in many – often theatrical – ways.
    Dr. William Pierce mentionned a small group of Jews who founded the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership organization (JPFO), intended to spread the idea that “not all Jews are bad” while the majority of Jewish politicians is fanatically intent on robbing the American citizen of his second amendment.
    Gilad Atzmon mentions a Jewish boat to Gaza during the Gaza crisis, a small sailing boat with only 4 Jews aboard and a ridiculous small amount of “aid” for the people of Gaza while the whole world was outraged at Israel’s criminal behaviour.
    Then there is the case of the Neturei Karta a small sect of orthodox Jews that is always clamorously present at any event that puts the Palestinian problem at the centre of attention. These bearded, black clad fellows loudly proclaim their “opposition to Zionism” and never cease to stress how much they care for the plight of the Palestinians. They even attended a Holocaust Revisionism Conference in Tehran, at which besides Ahmedinejad also David Duke was present. Their trick seems to be working. I have seen them praised as examples of the “good Jew” even on Neo-Nazi websites.
    I think in this respect we also should mention TV comic Jon Stewart (Jonathan Leibowitz) who often criticizes bad behaviour of Jews, in his case in a funny way (he once called the people of AIPAC the “Elders of Zion”). His criticism has of course no real effect but it will plant the idea in the public mind that “not all Jews are bad”.
    BTW Jonathan’s elder brother Larry Leibowitz is Chief Operating Officer of the New York Stock Exchange, but you will not hear Jonathan criticizing that!

  117. Lookaroundu's Gravatar Lookaroundu
    March 4, 2012 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    It’s likely Media Matters will be brought into line by their real, i.e. Zionist, masters. A larger lesson here is that wars fought for the international banking cartel, promotion of “democracy”, or what have you (different names, same goal?) never turn out well. See what happened to the Benghazi graves of British and Commonwealth dead of WWII after the US/NATO “liberated” Libya from Gadaffi.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lubTLu_AnFA
    (Ironically, at least one of the headstones shown is inscribed with the star of David.) This destruction is just more evidence of the stupidity of WWII having been fought in the first place. The great shame is these men thought they were fighting for God and Country. Since the end of that obscene conflict, their beloved Britain has been all but overrun by many of the types desecrating this cemetery. The sad legacy of a profoundly self-destructive war fought 70 years ago has, once again, come back to us in 2012.

  118. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    March 4, 2012 - 6:38 pm | Permalink

    A clear demonstration of Obama’s priorities and compassion. Leon Pannetta tries to reassure congress that they will look into the fact that under Obama’s new healthcare plan, welfare recipients get free healthcare, while he raises the co-pay on disabled veterans. You cannot make this stuff up!

  119. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    March 5, 2012 - 2:10 am | Permalink

    Offtopic but worthy of at least consideration:

    Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.
    There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:
    Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
    Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
    Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007. (Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.)
    Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President.
    MORE DETAILS BELOW, FROM HERE: fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up

    In late May, Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s Country. Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir-director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology. Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.
    Larry Bland
    There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:
    Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
    Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
    Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007. (Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.)
    Nate Spencer (r)
    Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President.
    ~Eowyn
    White House ramps up damage control over Obama Chicago gay history
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….…………
    Snopes is a left wing lie factory funded by George Soros.
    There were articles about it all over the internet last week. Run by a left wing couple with a web site and an agenda.
    Soros saw them as useful tools and began funding them.
    They NEVER claim that any article negative to Obama is true!.

  120. Neville's Gravatar Neville
    March 12, 2012 - 9:01 am | Permalink

    There are 12,000,000 Jews in the World.

    A tightly knit community that is well “controlled” by their local Jewish Chronicle & Synagoge unless it is necessary to bring in the big guns as was the case with Judge Goldstone & his UN Report.

    Jews have so many fairy tale horror stories of the Exodus , Diaspora & the Holohaux etc not to mention the self hating Jew accusation to help them keep them in line.

    http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/top-israeli-archaeologists-contest-jewish-ties-to-jerusalem/

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