Facebook, Money and Power

We’ve all heard the adage “He who pays the piper calls the tune.” Now let’s consider what that means in today’s America.

For starters, we know that Jews collectively have a lot of money. And I’ll bet that has sure increased in the years since Madoff and the 2008 banking crisis. I’ve previously argued that Jewish malfeasance with respect to money is a very old thing. And it’s no canard to make this argument. See my article “The Culture of Deceit,” as well as “Jews & Money” and ” The Smell of Money.” Mostly, however, see John Graham’s powerful writing on the topic on TOO’s pages.)

So one day last week when I opened my browser and checked the mainstream news to see what we proles were meant to ingest that day, I groaned when I read about Facebook going public. As one account noted,

The biggest beneficiary of a Facebook IPO, of course, would be founder Mark Zuckerberg. The 27-year-old native of White Plains, NY, founded Facebook in 2004 with a couple of Harvard buddies.

And how much did he benefit? The headlines told us that his share of the loot was — this is not a misprint — $28 billion, assuming a $100 billion valuation, which may be conservative. Folks, that is a lot of money, even in the era of trillion dollar deficits. Then there’s Dustin Moskowitz, whose Facebook shares are expected to be worth around $7.6 billion and Eduardo Saverin (who had to sue to get his piece of the pie) will be worth around $5 billion. All told, a notable increase in Jewish wealth. (Although he is often said to be Jewish, Peter Thiel, the venture capitalist whose $500,000 investment will turn into shares worth around $2 billion, is not Jewish.)

Now allow me to speculate a bit. First, I join other TOO writers in doubting that Zuckerberg really founded Facebook.  As Matt Parrot wrote of its origin, as presented in the film The Social Network:

The project was hijacked when the gullible Winklevoss twins entrusted Mark Zuckerberg and his accomplice, Eduardo Saverin, to help execute the project. (See also Kevin MacDonald’s review.) The movie adaptation of this true story is a fevered Jewish revenge fantasy against their hapless arch-enemies, the reviled WASP “insiders.” Both the book, by Ben Mezrich,  and the screenplay, by Aaron Sorkin,  wallow in defeating the earnest brothers, heaping these two iconic American Christians with humiliation after humiliation.

Whew, there are a lot of familiar themes there.


Now, I’m going to assert that the success of Zuckerberg and Facebook did not occur in a vacuum. I suspect that he had ample help and support from the wider Jewish community. If a dedicated team of researchers were to spend five years investigating everything about the rise of Facebook, I believe they would find instance after instance of support from Jewish lawyers and judges here, Jewish journalists there, Jewish politicians (and their lackeys) everywhere. It would amount to a full-court press. It would be the usual pattern of Jewish ethnic networking.

The whole thing brings to mind the old case of who won the patent for the invention of television. It’s pretty much the same story as Facebook: Philo Farnsworth invents it, but it ended up in the hands of David Sarnoff and RCA, thereby gaining not only immense wealth but massive social control.

And here’s where it gets weirder: the film The Social Network was written by Jewish playwright Aaron Sorkin (whose father was a copyright lawyer!). Back in the early part of this century, Sorkin himself had even written a play depicting the Jew Sarnoff as stealing the television patent from Philo Farnsworth. Originally meant as a screenplay, it was set to be produced by New Line Cinema but never came to fruition. Later, Sorkin converted it into a stage play by the name of The Farnsworth Invention, described in a press press release as follows:

The Farnsworth Invention tells the story of Philo Farnsworth, a boy genius born in Beaver, Utah, who later moved to Rigby, Idaho, where he began experimenting with electricity. In 1920, when Farnsworth was 14, he showed his high school chemistry teacher a design he had made for an electronic television only to become involved in an all or nothing battle with David Sarnoff, the young president of RCA and America’s first communications mogul.” [Director Thomas] Schlamme described the movie as “a classic American tale driven by the conflict between a Mormon farmer and a Russian [sic] immigrant over the ownership of the most influential invention of the 20th Century.”

Next, I’m going to assert that Zuckerberg will support the usual Jewish causes following the dictum “whatever’s good for the Jews.” So far, however, that doesn’t seem to be the case, as he tossed off $100 million “to improve the long-troubled public schools in Newark.” That means he’s currently following the hip but largely hopeless trend to donate to African American welfare.

Also, traditional Jews might not be happy with his dating habits, as his girlfriend is decidedly not Jewish:

Zuckerberg is still young, though. Keep an eye on him as he ages. He may well begin to steer some of that immense wealth into causes favorable to Jews, including those such as open borders immigration into traditionally White countries.

Returning to my original point about the political power of money, let me relate a story told by anti-Zionist Israeli Gilad Atzmon. He wrote about an elite Quaker school in Manhattan that may have a Jewish enrollment approaching 40%. But their Quaker values are not consistent with Jewish values:

The Zionist parents . . . are now insisting that the school give up on its Quaker principles and start to operate as a Yeshiva. They openly lobby against tolerance,  freedom of expression and relentlessly suppress freedom of speech. As we always knew — in the ‘land of the free,’ money can buy everything.

In fact, what we see here is a microcosm of the Zionification of America. Once Zionist money changes hands, tribal indoctrination will soon follow. The Wall Street Journal confirmed this week that some parents “vowed to pull their applications in protest” unless their demands are met.  The message to the Quaker seminary was clear – surrender or face financial extinction.

The Quaker Seminary is facing a serious challenge here. It has to decide whether to stand up for its precious principles or surrender to mammon seeking and face total moral bankruptcy. Interestingly enough, America faces the exact same dilemma. It has to choose between a fight for freedom or total surrender to a foreign materialist ideology conveyed by AIPAC, ADL and other Zionist warmongers.

I wish America and the Friends Seminary’s Quakers lots of luck, because in this battle we are all together. We’re all Palestinians seeking liberation.

As I once wrote, “The topic of Jews and money is forever important.” You can take that to the bank.

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158 Comments to "Facebook, Money and Power"

  1. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    March 1, 2012 - 2:41 am | Permalink

    @Anty Ep: You are 100% correct. The Chinese played the “Jew role” in Indonesia; at least until the native Indonesians attacked their large Chinese community with machetes to teach them a lesson. Earlier, a near identical drama was played out in Malaysia, with the Bumiputra turning on them with sudden violence. Look back in history and study the Malaysian riots of the late 1960s / early 1970s.

    And finally there is Thailand, which the Chinese ethnic-community has long had hold of by the balls. They (like the ‘Jew’) can pretend to represent and champion the people of the soil, in order to acquire popularity and political power. This is exactly how Thaksin Shinawatra built his populist power base. Shinawatra is a member of the Carlisle Group and (when still Thai PM) used to report regularly to the Council for Foreign Relations in Manhattan. Furthermore, he has frequently been the honoured guest of Nat Rothschild, the British financier who is Co-Chairman of the hedge fund “Atticus Capital”.

    There exists no single (pure) race of Chinese (unless you point to the Han). The whole Chinese community is made up of many different ethnic groups (50 x in China proper). But within that kaleidoscope can be found those who have traditionally performed the “Jew Role” in Asia, and who will continue to do so.

  2. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    March 1, 2012 - 2:28 am | Permalink

    @vened: The Indian diaspora employ similar methods to those you have (correctly) attributed to Chinese students.

    I have seen it all with my own eyes. So-called Indian “Engineers” frequently know squat / zilch (even those who claim ownership of “Masters Degrees”) but they solve that problem by networking together using a combination of: Internet Searches; stupid Goyim (usually American) who supply detailed answers, no questions asked; and e-mail messaging.

    So, when an Indian “engineer” gets stuck — he is likely already subscribed to the informal network — he simply sends a ‘broadcast’ e-mail to perhaps 5 or so Indian addressees, then sits back to await the arrival, in his inbox, of the step-by-step solution.

    Contrast this to my past experiences of seeing most of my fellow ethno-Europeans refuse point-blank to offer me any technical assistance; even when I was new to a job position and in need of local information. The only genuine exceptions have been a mixed-race Californian (senior construction engineer), and a white male (telecoms engineer) from Croatia.

  3. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    February 28, 2012 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

    We should all boycott facebook. I did it for while and got sick of the interpersonal hassles it generated. Who has time for the drama. Ditch it and reduce the power of this hebe in one fell stroke by deleting all your content and then deactivating your account.

    WNs trying to fly under the radar especially need to be careful of this tempting foolishness.

  4. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    February 28, 2012 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    My Korean buddy calls the Chinese the Jews of Asia. In the book Amy Chua “World on Fire” the Yale Professora elaborates the same thesis. I do not welcome Chinese ownership of America in the slightest bit. What are they doing to help throw the Jewish yoke off America? Nothing. Dont get your hopes up James.

    Chinese are tribally money-grubbing ethnocentric materialists with a wide Diaspora. Sound familiar?

    Whats worse about the Chinese than the Jews? Um their numbers for starters– hello– there are a billion of them.

    The one thing Jews have up on them, is that Jews basically look like white people (ruling out there distinctive tribal ugliness) In this they are incredibly dangerous to us whereas the Chinese are a fundamentally different threat.

  5. Diana's Gravatar Diana
    February 16, 2012 - 3:40 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Given the Israel has already sold the american military out and sent lots of our military secrets to the Chinese, it seems to me that is exactly the gameplan.
    BTW, Mao’s advisors were largely jewish,

  6. mari's Gravatar mari
    February 15, 2012 - 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Here is a frightening story about facebook from Los Angeles yesterday Feb 14. A Los Angeles high school teacher’s aid was arrested and charged with some sort of sexual molestation of a minor.

    The girl is 15. Facebook monitors all postings and conversations. Facebook reported the conversations between the girl and the teacher’s aid. The news quoted the conversations that led facebook to notify the FBI.

    It was obvious that the girl completely consented and was eager to participate in whatever they did. The conversations were only about kissing, mostly about how wonderful their first kiss would be.

    There was no intercourse, just kissing and above the waist fondling. Yet facebook found the conversations among the billions of conversations posted on facebook every day and reported the pair to the FBI. It took a long time for the facebook monitors to realize that it was a student and teacher’s aid who were sending messages to each other.

    Presumably facebook flags certain words and then seriously monitors the members who use those words.

    We’ve already heard about teachers who have lost their jobs because of comments about the terrible behavior of black students.

    If facebook will report conversations about kissing to the FBI, what will facebook do to people like us?

    I never posted any of my racial and political opinions on facebook. Working with blacks and radical Whites I learned to keep my mouth shut and just avoid conversations with co workers. Even so, I was sometimes
    confronted with totally false charges made by blacks and radical Whites.

    So be careful what you post on facebook.

  7. mari's Gravatar mari
    February 15, 2012 - 11:24 pm | Permalink

    Edward wrote “Secularized WASP’s brought in the Jews as allies in their power struggles with Christian Whites.”

    If you look at school busing and affirmative action it is obvious that is was a jewish haute White protestant war on White catholics and and middle and working class protestants.

  8. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    February 13, 2012 - 10:49 pm | Permalink

    @Poetryman: You’re comments are those of a propagandist, not a journalist!

  9. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    February 13, 2012 - 2:17 am | Permalink

    Peter Thiel IS Jewish. And he’s also gay. The fact that he grew up in a “Christian Evangelical” family really has nothing to do with his race and ethnicity. There are plenty of Jewish Christians in the United States. Quite a few in fact. I’m surprised to see Connelly make such a stupid error.

    Thiel is also a member of the Bilderberg Steering Committee and attends the annual Bilderberg conference every year.

  10. Ritchard's Gravatar Ritchard
    February 12, 2012 - 12:26 pm | Permalink

    I knew it, I knew it!!! I always suspected that the Jewish collective mind was behind the start up of companies that corner markets so quickly with so much money that competition is impossible. If any Goy who is the genius behind the idea gets in the way they are cast aside.

  11. weisser wolf's Gravatar weisser wolf
    February 12, 2012 - 10:57 am | Permalink

    Of great interest is the origins of FB with regard to the intelligence community; what would be the perfect spy/intelligence gathering operation? One where the target (patriots,goyim, etc) WILLINGLY give you all their information!

  12. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 11, 2012 - 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Zuckerberg may be a moral-free-zone, but it’s certainly a ripe time to sell into the tech-bubble, redux. Here’s a good chart displaying how aggregates can be dangerous in the social sciences:

  13. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 11, 2012 - 1:16 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Gates isn’t Jewish on either side. Where did you get that?

    Nor does he look Jewish. Whites come in many shapes and sizes. Many white ‘look’ similar to the Jewish simply because many Jewish have a lot of white ancestry. Go to Estonia….I’ll bet you that you see a lot of people that if you saw them in America, you’d think Jewish. But they are not.

  14. Reggie Seradly's Gravatar Reggie Seradly
    February 11, 2012 - 12:53 pm | Permalink


    Oh, there are plenty of Whites with lots of money. And very few of them are involved in promoting or supporting the interests of their people. They are Mammon-worshipers, whose money they lavish on themselves alone.

  15. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 10:14 pm | Permalink

    @I donut:

    Curious. The Zuckerberg logo inside his hoodie, while looking at it straight on, I knew I was seeing it, but wasn’t sure what to make of it. Straight on it shows the Ram’s Head Pentagram – “The inverted pentagram, with the point of the star is downward, is used to conjure up the powers of evil. As the circle is believed to enhance the powers of a particular symbol it is usually added to the pentagram.”

    And there is definitely a circle surrounding the pentagram.

    Zuckerberg sure looked REAL nervous.

  16. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 9:40 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    hehe that was a good one ! That is one girl that has truly just learned a life lesson and just been set on the straight and narrow for life. She may not see it now, but one day when she is older she will thank her father. “Youth is wasted on the young”, so true these days.

  17. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Here is some good news regarding facebook. Some father’s still have good sense.


  18. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 10, 2012 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    @Edmund Connelly: Permit me to add to your comment and Kevin MacDonald’s that Peter Thiel’s being a self-outed homosexual would further tend to make him quite comfortable in Jewish circles; indeed, far more so there than elsewhere. Thiel’s having been born in Germany in the sixties, a time when there were still very few Jews there, makes it quite unlikely that he is genetically Jewish, but his sexual “identity” would almost necessarily lead him toward the crowd that has aimed at normalizing deviance for centuries.

    Since he might well then feel the zealousness of a convert to their cause, everyone, especially principled paleolibertarians, ought to subject everything he says and does to careful scrutiny rather than take it at face value.

    @Trenchant: Strongly seconded.

  19. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 10, 2012 - 4:49 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I’ll see what I can come up with. Like many doctors, however, and like many more just plain folks, I am better at diagnosis than I am at prescribing treatment.

  20. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    @I donut:

    That was one interesting video! And interesting how Zuckerberg was very reluctant to remove his hoodie. I’ve been following Illuminati theories for a long time now, not knowing how true any of it was, what with intellectuals pooh-poohing the whole idea of it and all…so now I know. Star of David = Darpa, etc. Very fascinating indeed. I love the sound score on that video too.

    Take a look at this video and watch carefully at Jon Stewart’s startled reaction when Chis Wallace insists he take a drink from the coffee cup. Stewart had a time of it regaining his composure…What did he read inside the cup?

    Jon Stewart vs. Chris Wallace

  21. bobo's Gravatar bobo
    February 10, 2012 - 10:44 am | Permalink

    Mr Thiel surely looks like having some semitic admixture, maybe he is iranian-german..


  22. I donut's Gravatar I donut
    February 10, 2012 - 10:36 am | Permalink

    This video shows the company logo of facebook on the inside of Mark Zukerberg’s hoodie.


    Beginning part is in French but the interview is in English.

  23. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 10:21 am | Permalink

    @Less IQ than a Jew:

    Well, looks to me like the former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney deserves a hearty round of applause for having first-hand experience of and exposing the inner machinations of the Jews running the US government. Got to give her credit.

  24. I donut's Gravatar I donut
    February 10, 2012 - 10:19 am | Permalink


    I agree. There’s nothing wrong with the idea of computerized social networking, another good thing (like television) that’s been hijacked by the fuckerberg tribe.

    Some people take facebook very seriously. “Defriending” can get you killed.


  25. Less IQ than a Jew's Gravatar Less IQ than a Jew
    February 10, 2012 - 8:56 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeVBa4lSscw Cynthia McKinney US lawmakers forced to sign support of Israel
    The billionaires who run the world are plugged into the Jewish network.

  26. Edmund Connelly's Gravatar Edmund Connelly
    February 9, 2012 - 6:06 pm | Permalink

    I very much appreciate the varied comments. Two ideas this has spawned are: a) the degree of Jewish influence in Asia, now and in the future and
    b) the idea KMAC summed up as: “Someone like Peter Thiel basically lives in a Jewish world and could not possibly survive, or at least continue to get richer, if he publicly said things that Jews didn’t like. It’s much like being a non-Jewish neocon or a non-Jewish Hollywood producer. You live in a Jewish world and play by their rules.”

    Not only do books like Slezkine’s “The Jewish Century” document this sad affair, but others do as well. See, for example, my TOQ review called “America’s Psyche on the Couch” http://www.toqonline.com/archives/v7n1/connelly.pdf

  27. Kratos's Gravatar Kratos
    February 9, 2012 - 2:33 pm | Permalink

    @Jarvis Dingle-Daden: Good mate. It is true that they look upon others with disdain, hence the total disrespect they give to user privacy. Another model compatible to most ppl other than those initiatiated by “chosenites” must be found since they hijacked this one.

  28. Poetryman's Gravatar Poetryman
    February 9, 2012 - 12:48 pm | Permalink

    @Antiyuppie: And at Dr. MacDonald:

    Take the example of George Lucas, Star Wars creator and a billionaire, from a strong Methodist background. Episode I of the Star Wars remakes in 1999 contained some subtexual, symbolic racialist and anti-semitic ideas. In 2006 Lucas had married a black investment executive and now he has produced this Tuskegee Airmen monstrosity. My interpretation is that someone yanked his chain rather hard in the intervening years, and he is trying to walk the cat back in the most emphatic sense.

  29. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 9, 2012 - 12:21 pm | Permalink

    And where has Allah’s little rascal been all this time, Rehmat? We were already missing you. Good to see you again!

  30. February 9, 2012 - 11:46 am | Permalink

    Facebook is Jewish, so is Wikipedia. 48% of Wall Street’s billionaires are Jewish. As far “deception” is concerned, no one can beat Zionists, both Jewish and Christians.

    Chutzpa: ‘Peres sends peace message to Iranian’

  31. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    February 9, 2012 - 4:29 am | Permalink

    Zuckerberg notoriously referred to his “customers” as a collection of ‘dumb f*cks’.
    I don’t reckon there is a way to capture more succinctly the essence of a group of e-junkies who voluntarily air out their underwear before a company that would divulge their personal info to anybody willing to put shekels on the table. Let alone should the feds come beating down Mark’s door.

  32. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 9, 2012 - 3:18 am | Permalink

    IPO @ 25 X sales? Nosebleed valuation, and a canny move by equity holders to cash in chips now.

  33. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 9, 2012 - 1:00 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: On the Holocaust, I do think it’s important to get into details. At least in my own case, it was only after a full immersion in the minutiae of the debate that I came to realize the power necessary to keep such an unlikely tale afloat. My path started at CODOH and brought me here. No revisionist ever claims no Jews were innocents victims, that’s a straw-man of the political correct brigade.

  34. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 12:08 am | Permalink

    @Athanasius: The notion that the holocaust was some sort of unique event in world history fits too well with their narrative as a special people–never mind the fact that it denigrates the very great suffering of everyone who experienced the war and implies that their lives were worth less.

    Very well put. They are privileging their own suffering, placing it on a pedestal above all others. My main thrust is that we don’t have to get bogged down in denying that some Jews were harmed in WWII – as you mentioned something like 40 million of all people were killed – but the “specialness” of Jewish suffering should be denied. There were several major genocides or mass killings during the 20th century, after all and as you point, this is almost boringly common in human history.

    I suspect it would be wise for people to not allow themselves to be tagged as “holocaust deniers” if in the public mind that means that no Jew ever died or faced persecution during WWII. It’s an impossible position to maintain. More productive would be to frame it as a long drawn out ethnic conflict, with atrocities on all sides; after all that is what happens in wars.

    If we could just dismantle the “Jews 100% innocent, Europeans 100% evil” meme that has taken root, we would have dealt a fatal blow their Special Victim status.

  35. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Unequal weights are an abomination to the Lord, but not to the lords.

  36. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 11:20 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Irving doesn’t hold himself as an expert on the Holocaust. The go-to names are Mattogno, Butz, Graf, Faurisson, Rudolf.

    Here’s a good start for those interested in making up their own minds, rather than Spielberg do it for them:

    The second one by Heddesheimer is not as a rebuttal of the Holocaust per se, but of the important symbolism of the six million figure, a recurrent figure in the Jewish historic narrative.

  37. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 8, 2012 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: How many people died in Europe altogether during the war? Thirty-five million? I’m sure some Jews died. I’d go so far as to say that I’m sure there were massacres of Jews, both by the SS and by peasants in the USSR who had just lived through 20 years off terrorism by the Jewish commissars. How many people that amounts to, I have no idea. There were massacres of Serbs, Greeks, Poles, and many other groups who happened to live in an area overrun by people who had a grudge against them.

    What I don’t believe is the story that we’re fed. First of all, if the Germans intended to exterminate the Jews, why are there so many “survivors”? (I use the quotes not to disparage people who were in concentration camps, which was undoubtedly an unpleasant experience, but to indicate that it’s ridiculous to say that everyone who lived in Europe in the 30’s and 40’s is a holocaust survivor under any standard) The notion that the holocaust was some sort of unique event in world history fits too well with their narrative as a special people–never mind the fact that it denigrates the very great suffering of everyone who experienced the war and implies that their lives were worth less.

    Maybe we need historians to seriously promote alternative narratives. The Armenian genocide for one. Or how about the Greek genocide? You’ll probably scratch your head but stop and think about it–in the past 900 years, the Turks have completely exterminated Greeks from Asia Minor, where Greeks had lived for the past 3000 years. They raped women, kidnapped and enslaved children, destroyed cultural heritage sites, turned others into mosques–and in the end their entire country is built on this genocide. Shouldn’t they feel just a scintilla of the guilt we’re all supposed to feel for the holocaust (despite the fact that most of our grandfathers actually fought against the Axis).

  38. Whites Unite's Gravatar Whites Unite
    February 8, 2012 - 10:46 pm | Permalink

    “$100 million “to improve the long-troubled public schools in Newark.””

    The mayor of Newark, Corey Booker, is a light-skinned Black who was president of the L’Chaim society (a non-Jew in charge of a Chabad Lubavich institution!) of Oxford while attending that university on a Rhodes schoarship.

    He has been very succesful at attracting donations to Newark from liberal and Jewish philantropists, enabling him to cope with his city’s budget crisis without slashing the police budget – which has, in turn, been crucial to the success of his campaign to reduce the Newark crime rate.

    Zuckerman is following a trend among Jewish philantropists who support this promising Black politician with close ties to the Jewish community.

    “The Quaker Seminary is facing a serious challenge here. It has to decide whether to stand up for its precious principles”

    I fully expect the Quakers to cave in to Jewish pressure. They don’t make them like John Woolman any more.

  39. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: By the way, writers are probably the most indispensable element of any pro-White movement (or any political or social program). Improved writing, whether in letters to the editor, blog sites, comments sections, or entire books, would probably do more to help our cause than any other factor. I don’t mean our side has poor writing by the way – far from it. The comments here at TOO are head and shoulders above comments on sites such as Huffington Post. I just mean we need even more of it. And of course, the articles are outstanding.

    Given your experience in publishing and skill as a writer, if you ever get time to give us a brief outline of how to present ideas or gain attention, I think it would be invaluable. Or, if there are any books or articles on the topic you recommend, that would be very helpful. There are many contributors to this site that very impressive and probably even more waiting in the wings.

    We need to learn how to argue for White Advocacy, or White Nationalism, or whatever we call ourselves!

  40. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 9:06 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Yes, Irving seems to have been THE historian for that period that everyone deferred to, until he stepped on some kosher toes. My confusion, and perhaps that of others, is not so much what he said, but what various websites and individuals insinuate while quoting or referring to Irving.

  41. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 8, 2012 - 8:58 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: “My impression is that David Irving no longer denies the holocaust. . . .” In fact, he has not to my knowledge ever denied it, publically at least, on the quite reasonable ground that a historian, speaking and acting qua historian, ought to stick to topics he has thoroughly researched and on which he has published essays, monographs, or general studies.

    The scope and vitriol of the campaign against him ought to indicate to anyone with half a brain or more that the Tribe knows full well that anyone with Irving’s (unsurpassed) knowledge of the Germans’ World War II–era archives is on to their massive grift.

  42. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 8:33 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Thanks. But so I still get the impression that there is no challenge to the idea that large numbers (well over a million) Jews died in WWII, but that they were not killed in gas chambers. My impression is that David Irving no longer denies the holocaust, but I can’t quite pin him down from what I read, it seems to change. But I saw him say the holocaust took place in an interview.

    So, is the argument now over techniques of killing? Or is the claim that most Jewish deaths were simply an accident, unintended starvation, that kind of thing?

  43. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    This torrents audio version of Mein Kampf is quite well narrated.

  44. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

    @pessimist: Your comment on water quality brought back memories of this:

  45. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 7:50 pm | Permalink

    @Floda: Excellent comments. Thank you.

  46. Kratos's Gravatar Kratos
    February 8, 2012 - 7:49 pm | Permalink

    FB are modern day slave traders who pry upon unsuspecting naive indivituals filling out web forms, only to sell their personal details in whatever way that pleases them.

    I wouldn’t encourage such people who want a lot for nothing.

  47. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 8, 2012 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    This is a good starting point.

  48. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 8, 2012 - 6:31 pm | Permalink

    @fender: The reality we face is pretty terrible, but then some people see monsters in every shadow. It is a fact, and bad enough that Jews control the three networks and the movie studios, but when we start saying that every prominent person of questionable morality is a Jew, it makes us just look paranoid and out of touch with reality. Such is no way to gain support.

  49. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 8, 2012 - 6:08 pm | Permalink


    A lot of antisemites throw the Jew label around without any proof. Bill Gates is just another soulless White man after his billions. I’d wager a thousand dollars both of his daughters will end up marrying Jews and converting to their religion.

  50. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 8, 2012 - 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Did the twins have a written agreement with MZ?
    Social network site ‘ideas’ were all over the place by 2004.

    from the web…………………..

    Former Harvard President Larry Summers Slams Winklevoss Twins …
    Jul 20, 2011 – Olympic rowing twins Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss have decided not to appeal to the Supreme Court a ruling upholding their $65 million

  51. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 8, 2012 - 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Hey folks this is off topic BUT I looked up Obamafiles.com and went to Factcheck [I am told it and snopes are Soros funded].

    At FC it talks of Michelles ‘distinguished career as a lawyer’..yikes.
    Miss Obambi never tried a case and thats true of obamabi as well.

    Snopes and factcheck are bullsht.

  52. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 8, 2012 - 5:28 pm | Permalink


    I too was told Bill is Jewish, no. he is atheist and was raised Christian. His wife is the one who decided to try to save Afreeka.

    ‘I’m actually a bit surprised that Jason has noted people with many FB friends with whom they aren’t acquainted personally. This seems extremely uncommon among people I know. It is my understanding that the site succeeded because initially, one had to have a university email account to get a FB account. Therefore most people who initially joined had to use their real names, and tended to friend those they already knew (rather than face “real” rejection). ‘

    Facebook is an improved version of Myspace [now called dead space] and FB was made possible by the endless spams
    it sent from the get go….’yr friend wants you to join’.
    In joining it fished ones email account and mercilessly spammed yr contact list.

  53. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    @fender: I suspect the lack of support for WN among the rich is because of the severe social stigma associated with supporting anything pro-White (I wish it were otherwise, but there it is). Remember, it is deeply unpopular among Whites themselves. People who are rich worry about being singled out and having their family reputation destroyed, or having various “civil rights”, hate-watch or even federal agencies start showing an interest in them.

    That doesn’t explain why they don’t make anonymous donations. This is why I think it is still very early days in this “movement”. The vast overwhelming majority of Whites simply are not thinking in racial terms.

    And as a final note, wealthy donors must find White organizations that seem worth of the donation. Certainly TOO is, but many of the sites and groups that call themselves “White Nationalist” are a bit sketchy. This is why having clean operations with high quality people with NO association with neo-Nazis is crucial. You won’t get any serious money for anyone with former skinheads or people that have written about imminent collapse and the need for armed struggle, that kind of thing.

  54. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 8, 2012 - 4:33 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Bill Gates’s father is not Jewish, he’s a typical WASP. His name is William H. Gates II for God’s sake. If you have any proof of Gates having Jewish ancestry I’d like to see it.


    It is not at all impossible for a smart, racially-conscious White man to tow the Jewish line until he gets his fortune, and then cut himself off from them and use his money to support pro-White causes. All it takes is foresight and careful manuevering.

    The problem is that White youths are taught to ignore their own racial interests and fight imaginary Nazi evils. That’s why our best and brightest are actually our worst enemies, because they’re ironically the most brainwashed.

    But again it’s not impossible for a White man to make it in a Judaic society, and then turn the tables on them. Imagine if we had these supersmart hackers on our side wreaking havoc on the ADL and SPLC sites.

  55. Antiyuppie's Gravatar Antiyuppie
    February 8, 2012 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Nothing is stopping White millionaires and billionaires from giving money to White causes. They already have their fortune; they no longer need to to pander to Jewish interests to get rich.

    You don’t understand. To become a billionaire you must become a Jew. You must see your employees, your clients, your suppliers as a bunch of little Goys to whom no loyalty, no honor, no sense of shame is due. Then you can become a billionnaire, but at that point you have sold your soul to the devil and all the connection with your people – your Volk – is lost. Look at “our” billionaires, what kind of high-IQ-idiots and degenerates they are. Look how “cultural marxism” and “turbo capitalism” are a match made in heaven, with all these ex-hippies/druggies turned corporate Tycoons.
    Tell me a name of a single one “Aryan” billionaire that used the power of his money to help his people in the last 30-40 years. Not 10, not 5, not 3 but 1. There is none. Ask yourself why.
    It might have been possible in the times of “robber barons” or Henry Ford, when the capitalist system was not (yet) as Judaic, but today…

  56. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 8, 2012 - 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Becoming rich means becoming part of a Jewish world, staying rich means staying part of a Jewish world. Even if you would like to break with that world and “take your money with you” you can’t. Rich people don’t have big cash money, they have big investments. Those are controled by Jews and they can punish you with that. If these people can wreck “disobedient” countries, they can easily wreck “disobedient” persons. Such is the range of their power. We need a global intifada against these anti-humans.

    P.S. Bill Gates is a half-Jew via his father and that is visible both by his appearance and his behaviour.

  57. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 8, 2012 - 2:00 pm | Permalink


    Nothing is stopping White millionaires and billionaires from giving money to White causes. They already have their fortune; they no longer need to to pander to Jewish interests to get rich.

  58. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 8, 2012 - 12:44 pm | Permalink

    I hope the youtube link doesn’t embed the video itself, so if it does — my apologies

    Facebook has 850 million users, with over half logging in daily. How quickly will it continue to grow? Will its IPO only contribute to a new tech bubble? Will Facebook’s success among users translate into sizeable profits? Will Mark Zuckerberg and investors find common language? And will Facebook have to create a breakthrough to generate more money? CrossTalking with Peter Leeds, Gareth Feighery and Jay Ritter.

    CrossTalk: FaceBook / CheckBook

  59. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 8, 2012 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: The account in question is a Hotmail account. I don’t know whether their filtering is known to be inferior to Yahoo’s or Gmail’s, but I can say that “aggressive” is not a word I would ever use to describe it. And of course, the spam is not simply deleted before it reaches my account; it gets dumped in the spam folder instead, where I have to wade through it.

    Things might be better were it not that I get mail I want to or ought to read once a week or so from people not in my address book, people who sometimes are offering me work. Otherwise I could simply eliminate all mail from sources not entered therein without further endangering my already spotty income. The spam barrier is thus as high as I can reasonably set it; using a filter to eliminate an e-mail with a subject line like “Homroenes,BlooodVesesls,AndNevreesMustAllWorkToegtther” (that’s actually only the first half of it) is, I think, impossible.

    I won’t continue with this tangential moan, though in closing, as I wrote above, the problem got exponentially worse thanks to two minutes on LinkedIn. Thanks for your suggestions and your sympathy.

  60. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 7:20 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: You are getting way too much spam. I don’t know why, but that is way too much. It seems like most yahoo and gmail accounts filter most of the spam out. I would take a look at your spam settings or consider migrating to a new email.

  61. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 8, 2012 - 4:46 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Thank you both for your enlightening comments. Utterly depressing, alas, but still enlightening.

    Apropos the privacy comments you make, my own sole experience with a networking site—I mentioned the matter on another thread whose subject I don’t recall—was with something called LinkedIn. My last boss in publishing, who was rather a big shot and is now wealthily retired, sent me a form-letter e-mail inviting me to register on his LinkedIn page. I took a look at the site and at his page, and I saw that all the people mentioned there were ones I either knew or knew of. I thought, “oh what the hell,” and started to try to add my name to the list. At that point, as you no doubt will know, I got the message saying that I had to register myself first. Being alert to the fact that the government and virtually the entire world would then learn more about me than I wanted known, even if it was just my name, as soon as I registered I immediately went to the options page, where I made literally everything about myself private.

    What a mistake! In the two minutes between registering and making everything private, something like seventy e-mails poured into my inbox and spam folder, all of them disgusting in the usual ways. I was in such a state of rage that I went straight back and deleted my account.

    Too late, of course; the damage was done. All that happened months ago, yet I am still getting an extra hundred spam e-mails a day over what I ever got before. No blocking code or spam filter has done me any appreciable good. Yet since I don’t want to scrap the address—it is one I have used for years for business and some private communications—I now lose almost half an hour every day in sorting through the junk to find the one or two legit communications.

    I am sure I am not the only one with a story like this, but I simply never imagined that a site that lauds itself as a business tool would be so plainly in cahoots with Internet lowlives. If this isn’t a case of Jewish ethnic networking, I don’t know what is.

  62. Antiyuppie's Gravatar Antiyuppie
    February 8, 2012 - 3:30 am | Permalink

    Whites can and do [become multi-billionaires]. Gates and Jobs come to mind…
    The problem with this Judeo-Capitalistic system is that to become extremely wealthy, you have to become a Jew – spiritually, morally, mentally – even if you are an Aryan. That’s why our billionaires are so useless.

    • February 8, 2012 - 10:21 am | Permalink

      That’s phrased a bit bluntly, but there is some truth in it. Someone like Peter Thiel basically lives in a Jewish world and could not possibly survive, or at least continue to get richer, if he publicly said things that Jews didn’t like. It’s much like being a non-Jewish neocon or a non-Jewish Hollywood producer. You live in a Jewish world and play by their rules. But as long as you do, you can definitely have a career–even a very lucrative one.

  63. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 8, 2012 - 3:07 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Not to mention the fact that pictures of any of use can be posted on FB without our consent. I think I’ve posted maybe 4 pictures of myself, but other people have posted hundreds.

    Interesting about the dynamic with young girls. That may yet be FB’s demise. It is my hope that someone will develop a decentralized system of blogs with a good search function that can yet displace FB. I would pay for such a service if it ensured my privacy…of course most people probably wouldn’t but it could be marginally ad-supported.

  64. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 2:54 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: By the way, FB settings can be set to afford some privacy – actually quite a lot. Your pictures and notes don’t have to be on parade for the world to see (only your “friends”). Of course, that only means privacy from the general public, not government agencies or FB itself.

    And please warn any young people you know that the “antics” they write about on FB, complete with profane acronyms and lewd pictures, can very much find their way in the hands of prospective employers; they search FB now.

  65. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 8, 2012 - 2:47 am | Permalink

    @Athanasius: I’m actually a bit surprised that Jason has noted people with many FB friends with whom they aren’t acquainted personally. This seems extremely uncommon among people I know.

    It’s actually uncommon among the people I know as well, that is adults over college age, especially over 30. Some coworkers I know have just a few friends on facebook (even though they are social people). However, based on what I’ve heard from my friend who has a daughter, as well as feedback from my nephews, an attractive 18 year old girl can literally have 1,000+ “friends”. I am just assuming she doesn’t know most of these people. According to my friend, some girls simply add anyone that requests “friendship”. It’s a competitive thing to see who can have the most friends/admirers. I have no idea how much of facebook is made up of stuff like that, but it has to be a major portion. One teenage girl can literally have as many friends as 40 middle aged men.

  66. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 8, 2012 - 1:57 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: We have indeed come a long way, Alice; sadly, everything behind us on the road we travel seems to be subject to periodic demolition—presumably by people who wish to make any trip back difficult or impossible.

    Thank you for the witty and morally piquant compliment. It’s a comfort to be able to speak with candor and know that it won’t be taken as deliberate hurtfulness.

  67. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 8, 2012 - 1:31 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: I think Jason is on the right track.

    In fairness, the site does serve some utility. I used it myself to locate quite a few relatives living all over the US and in Europe–people I probably would never have met otherwise. Moreover, in today’s world where many more young people travel across the country to go school, then work or study abroad then move numerous times, it is a useful way to keep in touch (I don’t fully approve of this lifestyle–particularly when it detracts from starting a family–but I’m not one to criticize on that count).

    Having said that, the site’s main lures are:

    1) To create a persona rooted in self-delusion, that the pop culture activities that are shoveled at young people lend some relevance to their lives. (one “likes” the latest Jew entertainment offerings and takes pride in identifying with them).

    2) To look for trim. People try to scope out sexual partners there–and try to discern who is having sex with whom based on pictures and posts.

    3) Least importantly, to share ideas. Of course, since I never know who is looking at my page, and it is my real name, I occasionally post what I deem to be interesting news articles, but they are always bland and inoffensive. You can be sure that the thought police are always watching you.

    I’m actually a bit surprised that Jason has noted people with many FB friends with whom they aren’t acquainted personally. This seems extremely uncommon among people I know. It is my understanding that the site succeeded because initially, one had to have a university email account to get a FB account. Therefore most people who initially joined had to use their real names, and tended to friend those they already knew (rather than face “real” rejection).

    This site couldn’t have been accomplished had Sugarmountain not gone to Harvard. It wasn’t any work of programming genius, but the elite aura of the school that lent itself to the site. Initially it was only open to Harvard students, then to Ivy Leaguers, then to Northwestern and Standford, and on down the college rankings. So the site was initially forbidden fruit to people at lower-ranked schools.

  68. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 7, 2012 - 9:39 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    I have great faith that if you wanted to offend me, Pierre, it would be done with far more style. I agree with your general position. Like so many of the Tribe’s innovations it is seductive. It is so easy, all there for you and you rarely notice the downward slide.

    We have come a long way since the day when a family prided itself on the women only being mentioned in the press at their birth, marriage and death.

  69. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 7, 2012 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    I have great faith that if you wanted to offend me, Pierre, it would be done with far more style. I agree with your general position. Like so many of the Tribe’s innovations it is seductive. It is so easy, all there for you and you rarely notice the downward slide.

    We have come a long way since the day when a family prided itself on the women only being mentioned i the press at their birth, marriage and death.

  70. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 7, 2012 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Just as Jason said in his note to me, I meant no offense to you or anyone else. That is to say, I meant what I wrote; my questions weren’t rhetorical. But I will grant you that, in seeing the disproportionate ratio of harm to good done by social-networking sites—not restricted to but certainly including having one’s mailbox flooded with a hundred or more vulgar and pornographic e-mails a day—my default response has become to look on the dark side for an explanaion.

    May I extract an example from your own comments? How hard would it be for the family members you speak of to figure out a better way of setting up a round-robin? Indeed, without much thought at all, I can suggest a way that seems to me better: open a free online e-mail account whose name all family members know, and drop news, bits of gossip, and photos into the Drafts folder. No one outside your circle will have access to the posts and pictures, and since nothing is sent or received, the hackers that troll Internet accounts for addresses and info—with the collusion, I don’t doubt, of Google, Yahoo, AOL, and various other ISPs that are only nominally on the side of us mere goys—will be none the wiser.

    I wouldn’t be in the least surprised, actually, if you yourself or a teenage-boy relative came up with an even more secure, simple, and private solution than mine in an hour. I know that for the Tribe, naive Gentiles are the mother of Invention, but for the rest of us, it’s still Necessity, isn’t it?

    @Jason Speaks: In grounding your analysis in one of the Tribe’s ugliest and vilest successes—rendering illegitimacy and the quick-and-easy divorce so widely acceptable as to verge upon the normative—you have, I think, hit upon something extraordinarily noteworthy. A girl’s upbringing has to be warped almost beyond description for her to think that anything but harm will ever come from the sort of “admiration” she might get from displaying smutty pictures of herself.

  71. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 7, 2012 - 7:12 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Are Facebook posters truly so devoid of mental, emotional, and ethical resources that they need to seek approval, applause, and long-distance “companionship” from utter strangers?

    Yes (for the most part).

    Facebook seems to be skewed heavily female (no offense to any women). The group with the highest number of friends tends to be very young women, in fact, a friend’s daughter (in high school) has an astonishing number of “friends” (most of whom she has never met). And even she is a slacker compared to many, because she isn’t allowed to post and endless barrage of bikini pics like fatherless friends do.

    However, there is a legitimate use for some family members to keep up long distance, share photos, or create an online community around some issue or the other. Also, people use it to look up old friends. But I would say the bread-and-butter of facebook is female narcissism. Which is why I doubt the company can be worth as much as is speculated. Eventually, the users will move on to some new platform.

    By the way, it’s not that guys are more ethical, but for most of us, it’s too much trouble to keep a page up and we don’t get all the groovy feedback on our pictures. And we are more likely to be voyeurs than exhibitionists.

  72. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 7, 2012 - 6:54 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    May I issue a mea culpa? I know, I am weak and foolish and self indulgent. For families who are so wide spread geographically it is very seductive. It is the equivalent of round robin letter.

    I resisted initially, horrified by the notion of images of the family children on line, but it became clear to me that young people would post no matter what I thought. ( I pick my fights very wisely). It is a fast simple way to be assured that one’s loved ones are alive and well, see photos of the new baby, and wish my cousin happy birthday.

  73. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 7, 2012 - 6:29 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks

    Can either of you gents explain to an aging fart what the attraction of Facebook is to anyone, young or old? What purpose is served by giving a world full of cheats and grifters an incalculably valuable supply of information that ought to be kept as private as possible? Are Facebook posters truly so devoid of mental, emotional, and ethical resources that they need to seek approval, applause, and long-distance “companionship” from utter strangers? Since when have white people—no, make that anyone who is not Jewish—become so “maturationally challenged” as to believe that this whole “Grandma, look at me!” attitude oughtn’t to be tossed over a cliff on or shortly after one’s tenth birthday?

    Let me emphasize that I am not being facetious or faux-naïf in asking these questions. This entire social-networking phenomenon, at least divorced from job-seeking or a similar consideration, variously puzzles and repels me.

  74. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 7, 2012 - 6:05 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: “I never heard of this Quaker institute in NYC before . . . , as I can bet no one [else] here has either.”

    Sorry, Bluerose, you lose. (I just wish you had backed your bet with some cash; I am rather hard up at the moment.)

    Apropos rather less inconsequential matters, I sincerely believe that you would be doing yourself a favor by being less hasty in summarily dismissing comments and corrections from Athanasius. There is hardly a commenter on this site who is so sound a guide to rightly formed thinking.

    Also, I earnestly request that you think twice before again posting such a comment as “let the devils, down to every last child of them, and even unto their archaeological sites all be blotted out forever. If that’s what it’s got to take.” The habit of Talmudic thinking is easy to don, but once part of your wardrobe, it becomes daily less and less easy to doff. Understanding the Tribe’s way of thinking is desirable and indeed necessary; adopting it leads only to moral and practical disaster—for oneself and one’s people.

  75. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 7, 2012 - 12:12 pm | Permalink

    The FBI seems worried. Look out for all those home grown terrorists who have objections to the current regime.


  76. KingTut's Gravatar KingTut
    February 7, 2012 - 8:19 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I don’t have the right words to say how much I agree with you.

    What you’ve said on the blatant idiocy of a lot of Stormfront-type “WNs” is definitely true, and I’ve often found myself wondering what was the point of their white nationalism.

    They criticize Blacks for their lack of intelligence, but ironically, most of them are as “dumb” as the average Black.

    What we need is less skinheads and more smart, reasonable, rational persons.

    When you read “Hitler’s Table Talk”, you understand that Hitler would never have succeeded if he had been surrounded by low-brows and alcoholics instead of the German elite of the time (including the heir of the dethroned Kaiser, the man who owned half of the German press at the time, and the CEO of Lufthansa).

    True, Hitler was surrounded by some “brutes”, but they were in his security crew and were not allowed to speak their mind in public. A bit like women, who were welcome in the Party but forbidden to hold even the smallest post.

  77. KingTut's Gravatar KingTut
    February 7, 2012 - 7:53 am | Permalink

    @Edward: Muscle power certainly trumps money power.

    But that was a long time go, before the Scientific Revolution and the Industrial Revolution which followed.

    And only a fool thinks that we can revert back to this epoch. Once a Pandora’s box is opened, like the contraceptive pill, electricity or the modern knowledge in biology, it cannot be shut down anymore by definition.

    Napoleon understood that you cannot even do anymore physical war without money. “L’argent est le nerf de la guerre”.

    To win a physical war today, you need bombs and missiles, and lot of them. They are not free, even if you use slave labor.

  78. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 7, 2012 - 2:31 am | Permalink

    @Athanasius: People need to think twice what they post on facebook. First off, governments can use face recognition software to scan facebook and match it to security cam pictures (actually maybe we should encourage more high crime groups to use face book – blacks and mestizos). But second, if you don’t log out, you may be notifying your friends of comments and other “likes: you didn’t want them to know about. The whole thing keeps track in you of ways you never anticipate and makes the information available to the world.

    This is a problem for your kids too. They all use it and they are not very prudent about the information they post. They often put email addresses and phone numbers on there. In addition, they may say things like, “we are on vacation”, which let’s the world know your home is unattended.

  79. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 7, 2012 - 2:00 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: WWII is tragic because so many sacrificed so much, and even those who “won” ended up losing what they fought for. Countries that accomplished so much in the first half of the century became laughing stocks (I include countries like Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria).

    Anyway, Zuckerberg is hardly a genius, that’s what’s so infuriating. And once again we have your Jew and my Jew. We now the the ‘battle’ between google and facebook, but either way we lose.

  80. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 7, 2012 - 1:49 am | Permalink

    @Marcus: The Chinese feel the same way. Most of them don’t mind Chinese women marrying Jews (anymore than marrying any laowai, and in most cases, considerably less). They are glad to be marrying into money.

    I personally believe that they marry Asians so they can infiltrate Asian countries.

    Incidentally, there is a concerted propaganda effort by Jews in China to promote the idea of Jewish genius.

  81. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 7, 2012 - 1:47 am | Permalink

    @Athanasius: Well that’s a good point, I had doubts because I’ve complained about too much interest in AH, and then … I express interest in it. Color me imperfect. I wish there was a site where the issues of WWII and AH and related topics could be discussed because it is an interesting topic (suddenly for me), but this is not the best place for it, and given the public image of WWII and AH, it should be downplayed here. A place that isn’t infested by AH worshipers, America haters or German haters on the other hand, would be nice. But anyway, you are right.

    Yes, Zuckerberg having all this personal information is a huge threat to personal freedom. Of course, the same is true of Google.

  82. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    February 7, 2012 - 1:41 am | Permalink

    I would be interested if anyone could dig up an article on the subject, but as has been hinted at earlier in this discussion, i believe there was an almost superstitious belief on the part of the Japanese (in particular although i guess other Asian countries may have had a similar phenomenon) in the financial shrewdness of Jews due to the proliferation of antisemitic literature from White Russian emigres. I may be wrong on this, but i recall that this was supposedly one of the reasons a couple of wealthy Japanese welcomed Jewish refugees even in the midst of WWII. Anyway i wonder how Asians feel about these Jewish men marrying Asian females, Zuckerburg, Matt Stone (South Park co-creator), etc. On the Jewish side it seems that heterosexual Jewish males are increasingly choosing to settle down with shiksas, i surmise this is due to the high rates of lesbianism, abrasive personality, and physical ugliness exhibited by Jewish females. Jewish women are generally viewed as the opposite of their Asian counterparts with their constant nagging: there’s a reason why so many influential feminists were Jewish (aside from their presumed interest in undermining Western institutions and mores).

  83. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 7, 2012 - 1:36 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: More HItler? Countering the WWII narrative is important, but it isn’t relevant to every topic.

    Here we have a guy who looks like an extra from the Star Wars cantina scene who has convinced 800,000,000 people to give him their most private information and in doing so has become one of the richest men in the country–with an idea that was neither novel nor unique. No one here seems to think these facts are of any interest, but concern themselves with what the Chinese think matzo ball soup and whether the toothbrush mustache can be rehabilitated in American culture.

  84. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    February 7, 2012 - 1:34 am | Permalink

    The last time TIME magazine had a credible “Man of the Year” was in the 1930’s.

  85. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 7, 2012 - 1:31 am | Permalink

    @pessimist: they have microchip factories, I wonder if that has to do with one of our companies, Intel, being run by a Hungarian Jew?

  86. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 7, 2012 - 12:54 am | Permalink

    @arthurdecco: I was relating that this is the position that seems to be held by David Irving today, who was once called a “holocaust denier”. I am asking for clarification on what revisionists actually think. My impression is that they don’t really deny that large numbers of Jews died during the war, but that it didn’t happen as portrayed in the movies. If you have anything … anything at all … of value to add to the discussion, I would appreciate it.

  87. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    February 7, 2012 - 12:37 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    The Chinese don’t feel admiration, they just want to butter up the greedy Jew and figure out how he make his ill gotten gains. Heck just about every foreign business venture operated in China has had all their IP ripped off and now face Chinese knock-offs.

    Also the Jews are no supermen, far from it. At heart they are a greedy, parasitic, xenophobic, racially driven nepotistic tribe that figured out that nepotism and chicanery were the means to achieving their goals. Take these two tools away and the Jew looks like a 3rd rate White.

    For example Israel is a economic basket case that without U.S. aid would cease to exist in short order. It has no real industry to speak of besides exporting weapons and tourism. Sort of like Greece without the beauty, dancing and good food. The Jews themselves are a lazy bunch, who refuse to do any sort of physical labor and have to rely on imported Arabs and Asians from farming to construction. Most work for the government. (there are eerie parallels with Yemen and Egypt on numerous issues BTW)

    Ecologically the Jews have devastated their lands because they don’t believe in sane ecologic practices like not polluting water sources, etc. The Jordan river is a toxic dump that would make the Chinese blush with envy. They’ve consumed so much of the limited potable water in the region that it’s made war inevitable. Yeah their green revolution was a lie, it was based on taking all the water sources for themselves.

  88. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 7, 2012 - 12:33 am | Permalink

    Quaker school…in the 1970s I knew a rich jewish lawyer who set his 2 to…..St annes/ brooklyn hts.

  89. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 7, 2012 - 12:31 am | Permalink

    Does Zuckerberg attend any house of worship?
    is he miztvahed?

  90. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 7, 2012 - 12:29 am | Permalink

    ‘The Chinese can never be guilt tripped with the Holocaust story’
    They have their on Holocaust….killed 70 million of their own +
    And continue to kill live infants, I am told US taxpayers / Planned parenthood help….
    anyone have the facts on this?
    Also I doubt non whites would allow jews to be the bankers / federal reserve etc.

  91. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    February 7, 2012 - 12:26 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: You’re making things up again, Squeaky. If millions of Jews did die in during the 2nd World War, surely there must be some evidence of it? I mean beyond the paltry evidence presented by the dishonest Zionists engaged in a subversive campaign to CONVINCE us of it?!?! I mean, really!

  92. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    February 7, 2012 - 12:01 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Whites can and do. Gates and Jobs come to mind or before them Xerox PARC which came up with all the ideas these two men stole then popularized in their software.

    What Jews have beyond their odious racially charged nepotism is a lock on the MSM and financial communities. This allows a 2nd rate intellect and IP pirate like Zuckerberg to bankroll a BS scheme like Facebook, that has no real revenue outside of selling personal info and conning people into using real $$ to buy virtual money for their virtual Facebook farm. In short it’s a scam IPO.

    The smart money knows this via numerous write ups and has avoided this modern day Hindenburg. Now it isn’t stopping greedy fools who should know better than to invest in what amounts to the next Pets.com. It seems very few have learned their lessons from the Dot Com bubble of the late nineties, where scams like these abounded.

  93. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 6, 2012 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    @Floda: What confuses me is that most people who were part of the “revisionist” school of thought now seem to say that, indeed, many millions of Jews died, but that it wasn’t a part of any deliberate plan, so much as the fate of people in concentration camps when a country is at war and facing starvation. Is that the current state of the art thinking on the issue? That millions of Jews did die, along with tens of millions of Whites, but it didn’t happen like we see in the movies?

    This seems to be a reasonable viewpoint.

  94. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    February 6, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink


    If you do some research on Uncle Adolf, I think you’d find there is an enormous question mark about “his killings”. My own mother for example, she spent a few days in Auschwitz in December 1944 about one month prior to the arrival of the Russian Army in January 1945. She aged 24 and six months pregnant on foot with about 25 other women and children fleeing in front of the advancing Russians. In 1996 her grand daughters in Australia asked me to sit down with her and make a record of her Wartime experiences. She told me that among the group she was with were several older Nuns who asked the SS Guards if they would permit the Women to shelter there for a few days. The SS men agreed, but only for a few days. I asked my mother about the time she spent there:

    On Auschwitz, she said they were permitted to stay there but no longer than a few days. She recalled how OLD and POLITE the German SS were to the women, especially to the Nuns and how pleased these men were to have them join their evening meals so close to Christmas.

    I asked her where she slept and about the food:

    She remembered sleeping on a dry wooden parquetry floor in an indoor hall which may have been used for sports such as basketball or gymnastics. She remembered sleeping near what must have been a bakery as she recalled the sweet smell of bread baking.

    I asked her about the SS guards:

    She said they had evening meals in a large dining room and she remembered having had pea and ham soup. Throughout our ‘interview’ she repeatedly mentioned how polite and ‘correct’ the ‘Old Gentlemen’ of the SS were.

    I asked her about the conversation and small talk, what she remembered:

    The dominant conversation was about the war and how everyone just wanted and end to it and GO HOME.

    I asked her if the SS (Mannshaft) understood Germany had lost the war, her answer actually astonished me:

    The SS Guards TO A MAN, felt the war would end as did the first World War, with an armistice! As late as December 1944, I found that incredible but somehow understandable.
    Then of course. came the most important question: The Gas Chambers and 4,000,000.00 (in Auschwitz) Dead Jews.

    Back in 1996 I wasn’t as wise to the Holocaust lie as I am today, but sure as hell, my 76year old Mother was! She went off like a firecracker! Anyone who has seen the numerous Youtube spoofs of Adolf Hitler going off his rocker as he (actor Bruno Ganz) is given some bad news in the film ‘Downfall’, will understand.

    She said ‘We spent about three, maybe even four days there, in our group were educated intelligent people, Doctors and Teachers, all Women and we were given free access to whatever we wanted. Nobody hid anything from us and nothing was off limits. I even bought or exchanged a fine pair of Leather Boots with a female prisoner there. The old Gentlemen of the SS were old and frail, there were no young men anywhere, all were at the front! Twenty five women and women talk. If there had been any hanky panky there we would have known about it! This fiction of millions of Jews being gassed there is lunacy! The place was a very big FABRIK! For God’s sake!……….

    I was not expecting such an outburst and wanted to calm her down, so I changed the subject and asked her about Typhus:
    My dear old mother then steadied herself and said,

    ‘Yes, the SS Men warned us about Typhus. They told us never to seek shelter in Barns or anywhere near animals, as the disease is carried by fleas and that in Auschwitz they had some terrible epidemics, which sometimes killed hundreds of people a month, including them and their own family members.’

    She turns 92 in February 2012 and is living in Australia, still in reasonable shape. I dare say were she in Germany, or any other European state she would find herself imprisoned for telling her story. Auschwitz and ‘Gas Chambers’ (not so much as even ONE has ever been found anywhere), are a Jewish LIE! The one shown to gullible tourists in Auschwitz was completed AFTER the War in 1947! It took me over 50 years to discover why the 1930′s Germans were told Jews were a bacillus and had to be removed.

  95. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 6, 2012 - 11:20 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Yes, I agree, good point. I advise against the use of the “n” word, especially in print or in speeches (what you say among friends is of less concern to me, especially if it’s in a bar after a few drinks). It basically becomes a distraction at this point in our culture. Instead of listening to what we have to say, they respond to that.

    I understand it can be fun to shock those suffering from terminal political correctness, but it should be something done on your own time and not at the expense of WN’s reputation.

  96. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    February 6, 2012 - 10:48 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:
    “Jews are not only financial parasites, they are also intellectual parasites. Creative ideas of others are stolen, made lucrative for themselves and then the thusly accumulated wealth is used to destroy the host population, the typical behaviour of destructive parasites.”

    The money, all supposed 100 Billion of it, is hoicked from the retirement funds of the gently grazing sheeple Worldwide. They’re called superannuation in Australia, Pension funds in UK and yours are 401K funds.

    Money never sleeps.

    The deceptive shysters do this all the time, get the inside running on something, dud the unsuspecting Goy whose creativity and perseverance initiated it, then dump it onto the World stock markets to separate the dopey taxpaying zombies from their money. They do it because they can. We have to rid ourselves of these creatures or we are doomed.

  97. Poetryman's Gravatar Poetryman
    February 6, 2012 - 10:28 pm | Permalink

    @Riley DeWiley: That was my take on the movie too–Zuckerberg was being gently pilloried by the Jewish community for some reason, probably his alleged mistreatment of Saverin and marrying non-Jewish. Notice how the other Chinese girl is portrayed as nutso in the movie, while Zuckerberg’s original Jewish girlfriend is portrayed as semi-saintly. The Jewish girlfriend was a completely imaginary construct, by the way; no such person existed in real life to the best of my knowledge. I suspect this was a veiled message for Zuckerberg.

    On the other hand, I have to admit that all the Chinese and Jewish students I went to school with were completely honorable. Multiple white Europeans were caught cheating, however, in college in beyond. Except me–I never got caught!

  98. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 6, 2012 - 9:59 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Indeed. I went to the other site you mentioned in another thread. By the time I got there it had degenerated so that I did not want to be associated with that crowd. I do not know how we address the problem. It is real and it is hurting us.

  99. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 6, 2012 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I never use the n-word.

    Because I love White people; I think the n-word hurts Whites much more than Blacks.

    I understand that some people do not want to give that word up; I’m certainly not looking down on them, especially the older crowd. I understand that the word itself has been demonized and misrepresented. But still, at this point in the game, using the n-word does not seem to be good for the pro-White movement. I’m not trying to censor anyone, though.

    Maybe others have examined this issue more thoroughly or from different angles, but I wanted to share my thoughts.

    In my previous comment, I mentioned that it would be my last for the day. So I apologize for writing another comment here. It’s just that I really do love White people and I figure maybe someone else out there reading this might find something useful in my comments, even if they do not necessarily agree.

    Have a good week, all. Sometimes I think about how great this site is, the fact that it exists, and the kind of people it attracts — it’s such a good thing. Thanks to all who make it possible. It really is a bastion of sanity.

  100. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 6, 2012 - 9:14 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: Yes I agree. I am absolutely not an AH booster, but he’s been demonized all out of proportion. I would like to see honest, objective evaluation of him and this book may help. And if the stigma around him could be diminished a bit (and this most effectively done by people who are not WNs), then it would probably get people to think about White issues in a new way.

  101. February 6, 2012 - 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Attention Everybody!

    Everyone here loves a good White author, right?

    Tomorrow — February 7th — is Charles Dickens’ 200th Birthday. Please let us all remember to enjoy a toast to Charles by raising a glass of red wine — To The Inimitable !!!

  102. February 6, 2012 - 9:04 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I glanced over the book description and reader comments at amazon: Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny [Hardcover]
    R. H. S. Stolfi (Author) , and actually the book sounds interesting. I never read any book about Hitler before, and this book sounds like it sounds like it’s worth a read. I never saw Hitler as utterly evil. I only wished he hadn’t gone as far as he did, what with the killings and all. I might get that book since I’m not reading anything currently.

    Anyway, you are quite right about not using lowbrow ethnic slurs. The reason why I like the TOO website is that it is more academic and the comments are more intellectual than anywhere else I’ve found.

  103. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 6, 2012 - 8:45 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: What I would like people to learn from AH is that the tone is important. AH did not use ethnic slurs in speeches. If WNs find themselves using a tone that is more thuggish and lowbrow then the lowest of AH’s street activists, then something is wrong. I am thinking of the Alex Linder types. There are a few loud, noisy, embarrassing WNs that like to shock. Basically, they are shock jocks using WN as a vehicle for self-promotion.

  104. February 6, 2012 - 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Everybody has something good to recommend themselves, and Hitler was a vegetarian. This puts him on the level of having a Higher Consciousness, in my book.

  105. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 6, 2012 - 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Browsing a biography of Hitler I came across something interesting. He said his own antisemitism took a while to grow, because AH was put off by the crude and unscientific nature of most material on Jews. It was only after he got past that and discovered more scientific evidence that AH formulated his views. I think we have the same problem today.

    Bad, crude, superstitious discussion of Jewish influence drives out intelligent, scientific critique of Jewish influence, and actually limits it to a kind of ghetto that most people ignore. I see this on websites that allow comments. Someone will make good comments on Jewish influence and it will be derailed by someone else giving bible quotes about “satanic Jews” and/or endless conspiracy theories and links to Rense. Persuasive commentary gives way to crude “ZOG” and “JewTV”, remarks that 99.99% of people blow off.

    White Nationalists should reflect on this, not to emulate AH, but to understand he was not some low IQ thug that repeated idiot conspiracy theories. He simplified his arguments for the masses when the time was appropriate, but he had a fuller understanding of the issue. The kind of people we desperately need will be put off by lowbrow, vulgar antisemitism. But they will respond to the kind of material Kevin MacDonald and others have put forward. Let’s focus on that.

    Here is the biography by the way, it’s at Barnes and Noble, I can’t vouch for it but it looks more interesting than most.


  106. February 6, 2012 - 7:57 pm | Permalink


    ooops should be ‘and often gives her philosophy about food and how it brings the family together’.

  107. February 6, 2012 - 7:49 pm | Permalink


    I’m aware of that whole issue of universities favoring foreign students. Lord knows when I worked for one I was hard pressed to even see a white face among the students. All the professors, scientists and researchers seemed to be Jewish, and oh there were plenty of Jewish students though.

    I’ve been following as many angles to the White predicament as I can over the years and it comes at me from all directions — a war on this, a war on that.

    Cultivating a work ethic is part of the reason why I pointed out the Oriental community of favoring tidy little backyard farms over barbeques, growing produce, plus flowers and herbs. (I didn’t like the selling of ducks and chickens). What I *tried* to point out is that in these very strange days, the time has come for a reassessment of the ‘American lifestyle’, I think. Survivalists forming similar communities based on the Oriental Californian model seems ideal. It’s not the entire war — but a small part of it, and one that in coming years might well be indispensable.

    The Italians in Italy also have a similar tradition regarding growing their own food on their own land. And it’s an entire family affair. I sometimes watch the Italian cooking chefs, and one Italian woman, well known but I forget her name, even had her grandson on once, and often gives her philosophy about food and how it brings the family today. The grandson was instructed to go into the garden and pick a certain herb that would be used in the recipe.

    So it’s not strictly an Oriental thing. Only the model shown in the news segment seemed workable and unique. On market days, the home-owners would bring out their produce directly in front of their homes and set up tidy, neat stalls, one after another, right in the street where cars would be parked, only they were kept in the driveway. So, people simply gathered and socialized as they browsed the stalls and made their purchases. The street stalls went on for I don’t know maybe two or three blocks. I imagine the food, flowers, herbs and all were cheaper to buy, and considering a couple of bags of groceries at the supermarket now goes for around $70, I was struck by how easily something can actually come together at a local level like that.

    The problem with Whites trying to figure out what to do about anything, from my observation is that they don’t seem everything doesn’t just boil down to education (though that’s a great part of the problem), but truthfully — it all begins in the home. And that’s where ‘values’ come in.

    Take White ‘block parties’. What are they? They hire amusement park vendors to come in and set up rides to indulging their self-centered little kiddies, while the adults sit on their front lawns, each in their own little clique, while they all drink beers, guffawing and laughing loudly, ‘to be seen of men’. And these are Catholics too.

    Frankly, if things are as bad as TOO readers say they are, I think it’s time to find new ways of living that reflect actual ‘values’. But what I mean to say is, this war is being fought on many levels — education too, and you are quite right, as I’ve read all the articles about the foreigners for years now.

  108. me's Gravatar me
    February 6, 2012 - 7:17 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: i don’t disagree about american consumerism, laziness, ect, but we should be cultivating a work ethic and, more importantly our education institution should be for us – I understand that some state universities now favor foriegn students over in state native borns- despite the fact that the state u’s are funded by the state and it is their charter that they are there to help in state students.

    the professors shrug it off, welcoming more $$ and can claim its for ‘diversity’.

  109. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    February 6, 2012 - 6:02 pm | Permalink

    @Mike: Not surprising…

  110. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    February 6, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    …”The whole thing brings to mind the old case of who won the patent for the invention of television…”

    As a matter of fact TV was invented in Germany:

  111. February 6, 2012 - 4:17 pm | Permalink


    Amen. And again I say Amen.

  112. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 6, 2012 - 4:02 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:

    I totally agree with everything you wrote. The remark about the girlfriend, the work ethic of Asian college students, the ridiculousness of Whites who support and cheer on their favorite NBA players/teams…

    I refused to watch the Super Bowl yesterday. How can I enjoy a single moment of that kind of anti-White nonsense? And the extreme commercialization of the event makes it an unofficial American holiday — truly sad. Nothing about it is beautiful or good. It’s just a sign of our decline.

    I’m not interested in knowing who won. A week from now it won’t really matter and no one will care.

    I wanted to convince myself that it was worth watching, that there is something good about a shared experience, which is what the Super Bowl is — a shared experience. That can be spiritual. But in this case it’s a poisonous spirit and diametrically opposed to the good health of a White society.

    (This is my third comment under this article. That’s more than my usual, so I will call it a day. Take care, all.)

  113. February 6, 2012 - 4:00 pm | Permalink


    I know you ask a trick question, but yes, I am all for Mother Nature doing a job on every single one of those cat-and-dog eating countries, let the devils, down to every last child of them, and even unto their archaeological sites all be blotted out forever. If that’s what it’s got to take.

    Now… let me elaborate a bit more on what I though while watching that news segment about the California little back yard farms. Always leaving out the animals, I refer ONLY to produce. My idea was why that America has changed, perhaps forever, yes forever, and we are entering a New Paradigm altogether, one in which Survival is uppermost on the minds of Whites. While there is yet time, I wondered why can’t small White communities do as these Orientals are doing, and create neat, efficient back yard little farms too, set up street markets, and use them as socializing networks too? After all, one main complaint I often see coming from Whites is the estrangement they feel towards each other. So let little Survivalist communities show the way. The ones that own homes and can set up little back yard farms. Let them not get themselves on the radar map, lest the government interfere in any way (taxes, or government claims produce cannot be sold by local people to each other), but if the government does interfere — just point out the Philippino/Taiwanese Californian communities, and let it be known if Whites who in future may decide to have a similar produce model, that they will take down the Philippino/Taiwanese communities along with themselves if the government interferes.

    I hope all this explains why I thought the California community model was impressive, and in these days with the Apocalypse on the horizon – is not a minor issue (the model the community presented).

  114. February 6, 2012 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:

    I have to agree with you. The Daily Mail newspaper in the UK always has the best pictures of any newspaper anyway. I followed the Daily Mail during the London Riots. Here at the link you will see pictures of the half-time show that was put on by Madonna. The entire Super Bowl is nothing more than a mere staged reality, a diversion from reality, where people think they are actually ‘living’ because they go haywire over some team or other. Meanwhile, it’s all staged for public consumption, the teams included. At the bottom on all the pictures is a video so you can see Madonna’s performance as a Pagan Roman. Such wonderful ‘values’ Americans have:


  115. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 6, 2012 - 3:38 pm | Permalink


    I agree that we Americans are not only “not without sin”, we are swimming in it. Almost every aspect of our culture is corrupted by some evil force. There is no shortage of greed, lust, lies, nastiness, etc. It’s all around us.

    I don’t know if it was always this way, to the degree that it is now. Maybe America really did have good values at some point in the past. But I agree with you that whatever good values we had, they are buried and forgotten somewhere in our collective mind/soul. We can unearth them.

    Turn away from drugs, alcohol, pornography, garbage music/tv, etc. And turn to God, love your people, Whites.

    Each of us is important. Every moment counts.

    I think there is a sort of “Nothing matters” philosophy or outlook in different Eastern religions or new age stuff. But maybe everything matters. That seems true. Everything matters. And there is always hope. Every moment seems to have a ripple effect, maybe an eternal one. Maybe every thought, word and action lasts forever. So make them good.

  116. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: You’re all for earthquakes?

  117. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 6, 2012 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    If I had a billion dollar stake in a company such as facebook, I think I could find a prettier girlfriend! Anyway, I was never impressed with the intelligence of the Asians in college, but they certainly worked hard. I had a senior project with 2 of them, they came up with a workaday solution, but nothing creative. They are copycats, and with the exception of the Japanese, not very thorough and probably don’t have the word “craftsman” in their dictionary. In my experience, only less intelligent white people are intimidated by Asian brainpower. They are decent neighbors, though, and their presence in America doesn’t seem parasitical, even though I prefer white folks.
    However, some white folks are lost. I have a friend who travels out of town to follow his favorite NBA basketball team. He is otherwise smart and hardworking, supporting his family by working an emotionally draining job, loving towards his children, and yet…there he goes to cheer for something as meaningless as a game between overpaid millionaires who probably disdain him and the other suckers who pay for the tickets. He sees I look at him funny when he “brags” about the “fun” he has, but I’m just thinking that he wasted another thousand dollars that could help out white people, not prop up a dsyfunctional, dying culture.

  118. February 6, 2012 - 3:22 pm | Permalink


    February 6, 2012 Monday 6.0 Strong EQ
    Location: 9.874N, 123.070E
    37 Miles N from Dumaguete, Negros, Philippines
    [9.3 Miles Deep]

    Needless to say, I’m all for it. Let Mother Nature handle the Philippinos and others.

  119. February 6, 2012 - 3:13 pm | Permalink


    And just as a last remark, I am sure I would be APPALLED at the treatment of animals in American slaughter houses. AMERICANS ARE NOT WITHOUT SIN, no matter WHAT Whites say about how wonderful our ‘values’ are.

  120. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 6, 2012 - 3:13 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara:
    It has been said (on VNN I believe) that the Chinese can never be subverted by the Jews as happened to us. As reasons are given :
    1) The Jews can never infiltrate the Chinese because they always will remain physically recognizable.
    2) The Chinese can never be guilt tripped with the Holocaust story.
    3) The Chinese will never fall for the “Jews as God’s Chosen People” idea.
    4) The Chinese are themselves strongly ethnocentric.
    5) The Chinese are ruthless.
    All these reasons may be true but fact is that presently the Chinese feel great admiration for the intelligence and the success of the Jews. Some even think that the “secret” of their success lies in the Talmud and study that scripture! It is this admiration that might become their undoing. First they will start joint ventures with Jews, then the Jews will subtly take over. There is already talk among the Jews to change host from the West (ruined by themselves) to China. What if the Jews will rule China and use its future formidable military power to conquer the world?

  121. February 6, 2012 - 3:10 pm | Permalink


    I don’t know why you insist on showing us pictures of Oriental animal cruelty when all I posted was that I was impressed with the Oriental or Asian California community’s use of back yard space. I don’t even view it as a minor issue either. Leaving out the animals for the moment, let’s face it — times have changed. Food prices have sky-rocketed, and at least a certain segment of Americans are Survivalists. Not only that, Americans seem to distrust each other, which includes Whites too. Mostly Whites, actually. I was thinking it might be time to learn from this California community as a springboard for something otherwise self-indulgent Whites could emulate. Sheesh. Forget about it.

  122. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 3:03 pm | Permalink

    And (warning, this is not for the faint of heart) http://bbs.daqi.com/bbs_editor/05/1117095528.html
    you might want to rethink your relativistic stance with respect to us and them on treatment of animals.

  123. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    February 6, 2012 - 2:56 pm | Permalink


    As war with Iran gets closer, and the probability of Israel attacking Iran, and possibly Syria too, increases daily. I think you will see more wealthy & famous gentiles who have been mis-identified as Jews, letting everyone know they are NOT!

  124. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 2:52 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: I suspect you haven’t been to Asia, either.

    In any event, I’m not arguing that other cultures don’t have positive aspects or that we shouldn’t be open to learning from them. I’m just not sure what your point is wrt gardens. Every immigrant family from Eastern and Southern Europe at the turn of the last century had a garden and they were mocked for it. Sure, more gardens would be great, we could import less from Mexico and Chile–but it’s a small issue among many.

  125. February 6, 2012 - 2:42 pm | Permalink


    In that news segment, it was bad enough those Orientals in California also raised ducks and chickens. But I liked how they made good use of their back yards for produce. Bear in mind, too, American slaughter houses. So Americans are hardly better than the orientals when it comes to the Animal Kingdom. Enough said.

  126. Thiel's Gravatar Thiel
    February 6, 2012 - 2:32 pm | Permalink

    He’s wrong, Thiel discusses his upbringing and origins in the new yorker article above, stop seeing shadows where none exist.

  127. February 6, 2012 - 2:29 pm | Permalink


    I didn’t bother to look at the link you gave, as I am WELL AWARE of what these cat-and-dog eating countries do to them, including their unfeeling treatment of all other animals they make use of. If I had my way these cat-and-dog eating countries would be nuked out of existence, and every last devil one of them, man, woman, or child, blotted out forever.

    Needless to say, if found doing same here with cats and dogs, they and their families should be hunted down and — fill in the blank for the rest.

    Saying all this, nevertheless I still say Americans can learn a thing or two from these cultures in other areas, like comparing American self-indulgent barbeques with instead a more down-to-earth and practical use of back yard space, with the object of selling their produce and having little street markets as socializing get=togethers.

    One of the things that REALLY annoys me with the American mind-set flauting their unseen ‘values’ is that there is always one who automatically nay-says any actually positive thing a foreign culture does that is something Americans can learn from. Especially given the price of food these days, and also given how most Americans don’t even know — or care — who their own neighbors are. Another American ‘value’.

  128. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 2:12 pm | Permalink

    @Bluerose: You know what else the Asians eat because of past food scarcity? Cats and dogs: http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/boiled-alive-cat-prepared-served-in-guangzhou-restaurants.html

    You are correct that Chinese think we are stupid. They consider us to be brutes who only became powerful and wealthy because of force. They think we can’t speak their language because we lack the intellectual capacity to learn characters or tones. They also think that Jews are our super-intelligent overlords. Many Chinese seem to be in awe of Jews.

    And to be honest, I’ve seen many more Jews who were fluent in Chinese than whites who were. We need whites who can deal directly with the Chinese–to avoid the “court Jew” situation that has bitten us in the ass repeatedly. But again, what happens at home is much more important.

  129. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 6, 2012 - 2:08 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara:

    You actually think the East won’t become the new headquarters of the tribe once they’re done with us? Think again. The Chinese are far more materialistic and career-driven than we are. The Chinese elite will welcome the Jews with open arms because it will mean money and power for them, and the Jews will turn them against their own people even faster than they did with us.

  130. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    February 6, 2012 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Oy vey! Zuckerburg can’t be scoring points with the Jewish community chasing after all these shiksas, or is that becoming more acceptable.

  131. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 1:59 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Don’t worry, people who say that haven’t been to Asia and don’t understand what is really happening.

    The Jews are trying (fairly successfully) to co-opt the Asian elites and merge them with the American and European elites already under their control. The Asians are benefiting greatly from our technology and know how, but they have tremendous social (to say nothing for environmental) problems themselves. If we were to close up shop and stop doing business with them, they would quickly stagnate again. The problem is that the Jews are creating a system in which we and the Asians are economically reliant on each other, the Jews will then exploit our feelings of dependence (on both sides of the Pacific) and keep us paralyzed and in their power.

    I’m not saying that what is going on in Asia is irrelevant, but with respect to our future, it is paltry in comparison to what is going on here.

  132. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    February 6, 2012 - 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Here is an essential interview that provides valuable information about Jewish virulence and a number of other important issues. It is an interview of James Bowery conducted by Robert Stark. Bowery discusses a number of ideas in this interview that tie-in to this topic (Jewish virulence, nepotism, financial power, the hollow state, and use of the Internet). Highly recommended.


  133. February 6, 2012 - 1:53 pm | Permalink


    One CTO of a major corporation was Taiwanese and received a scholarship to harvard – he considered Americans lazy and stupid and said, in effect, they don’t/can’t work so I bring in Taiwanese (what a co-incidence, he prefers his co-ethnics).

    I would have to agree with this Taiwanese CTO. Perhaps Americans are simply way too indulgent also.

    About one week ago I saw on one of the news channels, a segment about some Oriental community (Philippine, Taiwanese, I forgot what), just immigrants or born here, who purchased homes somewhere in California. Their back yards were converted into the neatest and most economic space-utilizing little ‘farms’ where they grew their own vegetables and fruits. Once a week they have their own street markets where they bring their produce to sell to each other. It was remarked by one of them that not only do the street markets provide a way to sell their produce, but also provides a way for their community to socialize with each other.

    I suppose these Philippines, Taiwanese (or whatever they were in the news segment) have arrived in the US from cultures where sometimes food in the past may have been scarce, and so they developed a culture where food, and its production, take center stage in their lives. They know the value of Food, in other words. You see this in most all Korean corner grocery stores also, how they utilize and maximize space and set out their produce in eye-appealing ways.

    In any event, compare all this to the American use of back yards for self-indulgent summer barbeques, the epitome being their over-indulgent 4th of July food fests and thinking themselves this is what being patriotic is all about.

    Sometimes I wonder just what these American ‘values’ are suppose to be, after all is said and done. The average American seems to think they have nothing to learn from other cultures, and perhaps this mindset is helping to lead them down the path towards obsolesce. At the very least, I think it can be said Americans have forgotten something, just what I’m not sure. But I don’t see these purported ‘values’ much. The American Dream was one I guess, but that has passed.

  134. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 6, 2012 - 1:47 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara:

    I for one welcome our new Asian overlords!

    I don’t, and I hope others here don’t either.

    The West is done

    We’re far from done. Right now, I think a lot of Americans and Europeans are soulless, without a soul. The more I spend time here and/or think about and meditate on Whites and how beautiful our history is and how much potential we still have, the more I regain my soul. I never realized how soulless I was until I started to understand the current situation Whites are in. My soul has ballooned in recent months. And, for me, it is very much related to Christianity.

    There are some great pro-White Christian thinkers and websites, and they have helped strengthen my faith. It’s not surprising that many Whites are leaving the mainstream denominations; the mainstream churches have abondoned Whites.

    I’m not sure where I’m going with this. Except to say; we are far from done, and the more I love White people, the more my soul grows.

  135. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    February 6, 2012 - 1:29 pm | Permalink


    I suspect the Orientals cheat in the ways you describe; Asians in general co-operate to graduate.

    I think, often times they get the tests from graduate assistants, or the instructors themselves. Money may change hands?

  136. February 6, 2012 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Regarding the Quaker Institute, I read about that from of all places a Raelian email list that I subscribe to (I like to keep an eye out on the UFO angle, especially after I read that the founder, Rael, was born a Jew. Rael has all the Leftist views on everything, but posts a lot of Anti-Zionist articles.]

    I never heard of this Quaker institute in NYC before [known as the Friends Seminary, an elite Quaker private school in Lower
    Manhattan], as I can bet no one here has either.

    After reading about Gilad Atzmon’s experience with Jews trying to close down his performance of music there and force the Seminary to ‘apologize’ for inviting him, I thought here is an opportunity for White Gentiles to get to know about this Friends Seminary (literally get in touch with them, ask for brochures, whatever, even go to the site and ask to be shown around), and maybe help this Seminary fend off this unbelievable Jewish attack of trying to get them to become a yeshiva. I find this part of the article very hard to believe, that Jews would go quite this far. But I suppose they could. If the Friends Seminary has financial trouble, the Zionists and Israeli parents behind all this could ‘offer’ financial help with the proviso the Friends Seminary becomes more Jewish. I just think here is a rare opportunity for Whites to step up to the plate and insert themselves as a wedge between these Israeli Zionists and the Friends Seminary. Wishful dreaming, I suppose.

    In any event, if Whites were successful in this, at least some of their children might be educated at the Friends Seminary (those Gentiles with money) and eventually more Gentiles could send their kids there. If the Israelis are sending their kids there, it’s got to be a pretty good educational institute.

    The American Dilemma by Gilad Atzmon

  137. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    February 6, 2012 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a source that is convinced Theil is a Jew—and invested in Israel. http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/media/internet/news.php?q=1262024557

    Theil claims he is from Frankfurt.

    Someone could write Theil and ask.

  138. February 6, 2012 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I read about the Gilead At@Edward:

    I think Lew is right. Gentiles need to wake up and take a new look at money. I don’t mean Gentiles should worship money, and it’s great to know it is only a social construct, and that the love of it is the root of all evil, but it’s obvious who has all the money and power these days and who is fast losing their own civilization.

    As it stands, if I had extra money to spare I would think investing in Facebook shares would pay some good dividends as a means of building up more extra money.

  139. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 12:46 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara: You obviously haven’t spent much time in Asia.

  140. Edward's Gravatar Edward
    February 6, 2012 - 12:45 pm | Permalink


    their hypocrisy is stunning, their abuse of trust is disgusting. WASPs felt guilty, opened their doors, gave them the keys to power, trusted them, what have we got in return??

    Secularized WASP’s brought in the Jews as allies in their power struggles with Christian Whites. Similarly, liberal Masonic “Christians” made alliance with Jews against traditional “anti-semitic” Christians. The Jews were happy to be of service, but responded to White disunity and shortsightedness with contempt rather than gratitude. White secularism and Masonry must be overcome to reverse the direction. That is not to say that everyone must have Christian faith, but that the traditional culture of White society must be defended.

  141. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    February 6, 2012 - 12:45 pm | Permalink

    I can tell you for a fact that Chinese both cheat their way into American universities and get special treatment once they’re there. I’m sorry that I can’t go into the specifics here.

    In any event, that glosses the larger problem. The universities are the gatekeepers to economic power, and they have been keeping out whites. We should demand open admissions to all universities as a civil right. I’m serious, anyone who can pay and either pass some sort of standard test or maintain a given GPA should be allowed to get a degree from the university of their choosing and the standards should be the same for all. That would go a long way toward breaking Jewish power. “Everyone can’t go to Harvard,” you say? Already nearly any elite school will take your money for NON-degree seeking classes, and they aren’t overflowing. Why not make it mandatory that if people can get a certain GPA, the university has to grant them a degree.

    Professor MacDonald, you’re in academia—how about it?

  142. February 6, 2012 - 12:35 pm | Permalink

    FB, the FB movie, and now the FB IPO, are a textbook example of what the Masons call “The Revelation of the Method.” Such good examples, as to suggest we may have entered some kind of endgame.

    If any White person can view those events and not “get” the Judaic M.O., then, as Frank Costello says, “I don’t know what to do for you.”

    In light of the totally “cowan” nature of today’s goyim, I’ve washed my hands of them, and place my hopes in the East. The West is done [killed by the Jew] but the sun will rise again in the East. Hint: No Jews! {The Jewish Encyclopedia: “The percentage of Jews in China is small enough to count as none” or words to that effect]. Contrast China’s thriving, non-bankster economy, African neo-colonialism, etc. with the “pitiful helpless giant” of the US, lurching around the world spending blood and treasure at the behest of the Jew.

    I for one welcome our new Asian overlords!

  143. Thiel's Gravatar Thiel
    February 6, 2012 - 12:29 pm | Permalink


    Long wide ranging article about Peter Thiel and his religous upbringing, political beliefs etc.

  144. vened's Gravatar vened
    February 6, 2012 - 12:07 pm | Permalink


    “In many cases, according to anecdotal evidence and hard-data surveys, the successful Chinese applicants will have cheated their way into college.”

    I took a couple of college math classes with a bunch of foreign Chinese students recently. It’s mafia. They have databases of all the questions and answers by teacher – i think they just pass it on to newly arriving students. During the midterms and finals i could see them passing answers to each other. Essentially it was impossible to compete with them – they always had 90%+ correct answers. So as a result i (and other Whites) were hit by the curve. My 85% on the tests would have being more than enough to get “A” if not for these cheaters….

    Jewish students on the other hand responded to this Chinese threat by claiming that they have some sort of health/mental condition, thus giving them ‘option’ to take the tests NEXT day and give TWICE amount of time. Of course, they came to the class and learned all the questions from students leaving after test.

    After observing this circus for a few semesters, i decided to leave and study online.

  145. Edward's Gravatar Edward
    February 6, 2012 - 12:06 pm | Permalink


    Money is the foundation of all political power

    Muscle power trumps money power. This understanding enabled the old European Christians to retain the upper hand in their countries for many centuries. They understood that money is only a social construct and that the love of it is the root of all evil. Free men do not respect the “sanctity” of money that is being used to corrupt their society.

  146. icr's Gravatar icr
    February 6, 2012 - 11:49 am | Permalink


    Thiel’s identification on the internet as a Jew seems to based on the post-60s assumption that any prominent American with a German surname must be Jewish-even if he was born in Germany in 1967!


    Thiel is #377 on the 2009 Forbes 400, but he isn’t counted as jewish (“either personally or in their giving”) by Jacob Berkman in Jewish Philanthropy Navigates The Economy’s Rough Seas.

    And you know, for several rather obvious reasons, there weren’t many Jewish (or half-Jewish) families living in West Germany in 1967.
    There were probably more Jews (committed leftists) living in the DDR at that time.

  147. me's Gravatar me
    February 6, 2012 - 11:27 am | Permalink

    OT but on topic of chinese cheating:
    Mark McDonald writes in the NYT:
    In many cases, according to anecdotal evidence and hard-data surveys, the successful Chinese applicants will have cheated their way into college.

    I wonder what other group behaves in a similar manner. Every year that goes by and the non-white elite expand, our values become more and more unworkable. We cannot function in a low trust society, on the other hand they are like pigs in shit.

  148. Riley DeWiley's Gravatar Riley DeWiley
    February 6, 2012 - 11:18 am | Permalink

    As I deconstruct the movie, it was a warning to an assimilated Jew who had recently come into money that he needed to hew to the ways of the Tribe, or be publicly shamed. Zuckerberg came up with $100 million and the press coverage has gotten much better.

  149. me's Gravatar me
    February 6, 2012 - 11:16 am | Permalink

    I was looking at lot of the ‘players’ of the Facebook IPO – the sad truth is that the new generation of the elite will be almost entirely a hostile elite – and not just Jewish – I recall a remarkably candid article in the Atlantic about the new elite. One CTO of a major corporation was Taiwanese and received a scholarship to harvard – he considered Americans lazy and stupid and said, in effect, they don’t/can’t work so I bring in Taiwanese (what a co-incidence, he prefers his co-ethnics).

    Can one even imagine an immigrant, receiving the fruits of our nation, saying anything like this even a generation ago?

  150. me's Gravatar me
    February 6, 2012 - 11:05 am | Permalink

    @Lew: Summers also protected the jewish professor/economists who abused the authority given to them by the US and helped the oligarchs loot Russia. It was so bad the FBI wanted to prosecute – but pressure from the ADL, jewish politicians like Schumer, etc and 20 million of harvard’s money on legal defense eventually caused the case to be dropped.

    The side note about the quakers is incredible – zionist jews have taken over nearly every elite educational institution in the US. they have not only de-christianized them, they have judafied them. The same year christian groups were banned from using the campus mail @ Darthouth a jewish center opened on campus.

    their hypocrisy is stunning, their abuse of trust is disgusting. WASPs felt guilty, opened their doors, gave them the keys to power, trusted them, what have we got in return??

  151. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    February 6, 2012 - 10:11 am | Permalink

    According to Sorkin’s script, Larry Summers, Jew, gave Zuckerberg indispensable help early in the dispute. Summers was the president of Harvard at the time.

    Whites and especially nationalists ought to drop their incessant moaning about “Mammon” and “Mammon worship.” Money is the foundation of all political power, and any group that wants to control its own destiny absolutely has to have it and do whatever it takes to get it. Any other approach amounts to de facto pacifism and unilateral disarmament in the struggle for survival in this complex world.

    Jews understand this.

  152. icr's Gravatar icr
    February 6, 2012 - 9:12 am | Permalink
  153. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 6, 2012 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    P.S. That photograph of Zuckerberg’s on the cover of – of course Jewish owned – Time, with its wide open dreamy blue-green eyes is of course to suggest “exceptional Jewish genius”, while we have understood that it is nothing more than a combination of shameless manipulation and ethnic nepotism, the real formula of Jewish “success”.

  154. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 6, 2012 - 7:56 am | Permalink

    Jews are not only financial parasites, they are also intellectual parasites. Creative ideas of others are stolen, made lucrative for themselves and then the thusly accumulated wealth is used to destroy the host population, the typical behaviour of destructive parasites. There is no possibility of coexistence of humans with such creatures. Confine them to an ethnic ghetto, rob them of all culture and let them vegetate on a stone-age level. I doubt they ever will have the creativity to re-invent the wheel.

    Zuckerberg’s support of Black education and his dating of non-Whites is a clear indication of an anti-White attitude. Active anti-White behaviour will surely folow, he is still young. We are tired of seeing these creatures always being successful in their acts of robbery and destruction. The least thing Zuckerberg and his co-tribals could do is to be present in Israel when the mullah’s of Iran decide with their thousands of missiles to wipe Israel of the ma… err “remove the Zionist regime from the page of history” (per Ahmedinejad).

    Cannot White nationalists come up with similar schemes to earn such enormous amounts of money and then use them for the advancement of their ethnic interests? As we have seen with the Jews, it is more a matter of ethnic networking than of intelligence or creativity.

  155. February 6, 2012 - 3:31 am | Permalink

    Ah, the Judeo-burglar syndrome! Reminds one of Einsteins intellectual thieving! Most of his “ideas” were stolen from one Henri Poincaré. To quote Cracked.com:

    “It’s interesting that Einstein sat studying and discussing the work of Poincaré for years, published a book that featured a theory that was startlingly similar to Poincaré’s, and then didn’t reference Poincaré once in the entire book. Wait, that isn’t interesting? It’s plagiarism. It’s total bullshit plagiarism.”


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