Ricardo Duchesne, whose works have been discussed here several times previously (see here, here, and here), has written a wonderfully scathing review of Niall Ferguson’s Civilization: The West and the Rest (see also Anthony Hilton’s review in TOO). Duchesne situates Ferguson squarely in the neoconservative camp, with all the horrible things that implies: Support for big government, rearranging the politics of the Middle East in the name of democracy, and thinking that, since we are all the same, immigration is fine if the newcomers simply embrace the “killer apps” of the West. We’ve all heard the neocon mantra that the US is a proposition nation. In the hands of intellectuals like Ferguson, Western civilization becomes the proposition culture.
In thinking of Ferguson, I am reminded of Duchesne’s comment in his book, The Uniqueness of Western Civilization, on historians who are “happily ensconced … within a world of like-minded academics, backed by multiple grants and prestigious titles” (pp. 53–54). Ferguson’s Wikipedia page describes him as
the Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History at Harvard University[3] as well as William Ziegler Professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School. He was educated at the private Glasgow Academy in Scotland, and at Magdalen College, Oxford. … In 2004 he was named as one of the 100 most influential people in the world by Time magazine. He is currently a contributing editor forBloomberg Television and a columnist for Newsweek. He is currently working on the official biography of Henry Kissinger to whom he has been granted unprecedented access.
Neconservatism definitely has its rewards.
Some tidbits from Duchesne’s review:
The intellectual history of neoconservatism cannot be reduced to Iraq, but calling for aggressive ‘regime change’ is clearly a radical idea in line with France’s Jacobin/imperial efforts to create a ‘universal’ rational human by exporting the ideals of liberty, equality and fraternity. …
Regrettably, Ferguson’s idea of the West is devoid of any pre-modern past. Less historically literate readers will wrongly think that the West came into existence sometime in the 1600s with the arrival of these apps. He writes early on that the West is merely ‘a set of norms, behaviors, and institutions with borders that are blurred in the extreme’ (p. 15). This idea is consistent with his neoconservative universalism. Westerners are no more than individuals who have managed to download successfully the killer apps – regardless of location, religion, ethnicity, and historical background. The world, after all, has been converging with the West, or so he argues, with only a few bothersome radical Muslims standing in the way.
After cataloging a long list of pre-1600 Western accomplishments, beginning with the Greeks, Duchesne comments “These, and so many other achievements, are exceptionally Western and can never be downloaded by other cultures.” Exactly.
Duchesne is rightly skeptical of the willingness or ability of Muslim immigrants to identify with Western culture.
[Fergunson] is clearly worried by the lack of assimilation by Muslims in Europe, and the key role being played at universities and elsewhere by Islamic centers. He tabulates that if the current Muslim population of the UK continues to grow at the current rate, its share of the total population would pass 50 per cent in 2050 (p. 290). So, it looks like the West needs to show resolve on Muslim immigration and assimilation … by teaching kids Western liberal arts? I doubt a population built on mass migration from non-Western lands would be enthusiastic about Elizabethan England, Homer, Chaucer, Aquinas, or even Shakespeare. He says that ‘mass immigration is not necessarily the solvent of a civilization, if the migrants embrace, and are encouraged to embrace the values of the civilization to which they are moving’ (p. 290). It is worth noting that only westerners are inviting resterners to come to their homelands; there is no ‘reconvergence’ whatsoever in this respect; this is one killer app Asia does not care for. If current trends continue, the West will become a mongrel civilization, whereas China, Japan, and India will remain uniquely native.
This, of course, is the fundamental reality. Only the West has embarked on a voyage in which its ethnic coherence and its culture are completely up for grabs. Asia for the Asians; Africa for the Africans; Western cultures for everyone. Visions of the future West as operating under Sharia law and theocracy are at least as likely as those envisioned by utopian universalists like Ferguson.
Utopian universalism is a very problematic, possibly fatal, tendency among us Westerners—most apparent in the Puritan-derived strand of American culture. Ferguson is squarely in this tradition. As I noted elsewhere,
the radical individualism embodied in the Enlightenment ideal of individual rights is especially problematic as a source of long-term stability in a Western society because of the danger of invasion and domination by group strategies such as Judaism and the possibility of the defection of non-Jewish elites from the ideals represented in the other two models of [historic American civilization; i.e., the “republican” ideal of a cohesive, socially homogeneous society and the “ethnocultural” strand emphasizing the importance of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity]. … The transformations of American society in the post–Civil War era resulted from the “liberal” cultural ideal “that opposed slavery, favored immigration, and encouraged enterprise while protecting property rights” and that posed a severe threat to the collective life at the center of American civilization.
It is this liberal legacy of American civilization that the Jewish intellectual movements reviewed in this volume have exploited in rationalizing unrestricted immigration and the loss of social homogeneity represented by the unifying force of the Christian religion. As Israel Zangwill said in advocating a Jewish strategy for unrestricted immigration, “tell them they are destroying American ideals” (see p. 267). The effect has been to create a new American ideal that is entirely at odds with the historic sources of American identity. (From Chapter 8 of The Culture of Critique.)
Since Jewish intellectuals and activist organizations are not burdened by a devotion to utopian universalism, they are famously disposed to quite different strategies: championing Israel as an ethnostate and simultaneously championing the West as a proposition culture. What’s good for the Jews and all that. Ferguson thus becomes a useful idiot in furthering these goals.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
I made a serious attempt to read this book, but, I found it boring & disjointed.
Ferguson’s selection of the 1600s as the time when the West moved ahead seems amazingly ignorant for a professional historian. European technocrats had become a familiar fixture in Afro-Asian courts long before the 1600s and even before 1492, the favoured watershed date among Islamists.
Guillaume Boucher was making clocks in China as far back as the 13th century. The Hispano-Arab traveller al-Mazini, visiting Hungary around 1150, grudgingly admitted that the kingdom of Hungary was far richer than the heartlands of Islam. The critical century seems to be the 11th, when the Islamic blockade was broken and the age-old European primacy re-established.
Here’s an amusing little video animation on the topic of “How Whites Took Over America”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacvR87FzBU&feature=player_embedded
“If current trends continue, the West will become a mongrel civilization, whereas China, Japan, and India will remain uniquely native.”
– Ricardo Duchesne
This is one reason I think East Asian countries (Japan, Korea, China) are well positioned to inherit the world. Furthermore, I think they know it. They show no sign of adopting the chaotic, multicultural model. They don’t want it.
Ferguson’s background is in the British Empire as his parent’s are from Kenya – until the Mao Mao rebellion kicked them out. From the perspective of many Scots, he is one of the Imperialist class who returned home after the end of Empire whom many of the Scottish “natives” were glad enough to see the back of again when he headed off for the rich pickings of US academe. His history of the House of Rothschild was interesting though (or at least an interesting idea, as I’ve never read it).
LL, it’s Mau, Mau. Mao was the guy who murdered 110 million Chinese.
Duchesne comments “These, and so many other achievements, are exceptionally Western and can never be downloaded by other cultures.”
This reminds of something that I’ve been thinking about lately. Hopefully someone will find my comment useful somehow.
I’ve been thinking about how cultures should not mix. Not that that’s a new idea, especially around here.
Anyway, one of the reasons that I’ve been thinking about the goodness of separation/segregation is guns.
It seems unlikely that Blacks, left on their own, without the help of White society/culture, are capable of creating guns. (Did Asians invent guns? If so, it still seems likely that Whites would have eventually figured it out.)
And I’m thinking that maybe that is God’s way of saying that Blacks should not be allowed to have guns. Because left on their own, they wouldn’t (have guns.)
I’m not well-read or well-educated about a lot of things myself, so I don’t know exactly what falls under the “European inventions” category. But even the things that were invented by Blacks probably would not have occurred without the help of White technology (the idea of standing on the shoulder of giants.)
Giving Blacks the electric guitar was probably a bad idea. It has allowed their mind and spirit to affect the White mind/spirit. Same goes for giving them microphones or megaphones (Al Sharpton, etc.) My point is, when cultures mix, bad things happen.
If a society/culture/race are not at a level of intellectual maturity to develop that kind of technology, then they probably aren’t at the level needed to use them properly/responsibly on their own, as a whole. Of course there are probably many law-abiding gun owners who happen to be Black – so I’m not saying that every single Black person is incapable of using a gun responsibly. I’m just suggesting that maybe God does not want Blacks as a whole to have guns.
I don’t think God wants the Black soul to affect the White soul via music. Whenever a White kid listens to rap music, he is allowing the Black spirit and mind to affect his spirit and mind. This would not be possible if societies were ordered and separate.
There are probably many humble Black people, some of which are probably a lot smarter and more accomplished than me. So I’m not trying to lump them all together or make fun of them. But I do think that, left on their own, Blacks are inferior to Whites in most ways, and when we exchange technology and art/culture, it mostly harms White people.
I haven’t given this a ton of thought. So I don’t necessarily stand my comment here 100%. And I doubt I’m expressing something entirely new. Thanks for reading.
Thanks to Dr. MacDonald for doing what he does, for his presence in the pro-White movement.
@Gregor: That was a very nice video. :)
The British model for managing multiculturalism involves hyper-surveillance of the population. Britain has announced a proposal that would allow one of its intelligence agencies to monitor all domestic phone calls, text messages and online activity under the rubric of counterterrorism.
That’s a pretty stupid video by White Rabbit. All it did for me is to show another example of the wise and Noble American Indian, and made the English come off looking like ignorant a*sses.
I know the video is suppose to counterpoise today’s white liberal views as opposed to WN views, but White Rabbit must be smoking da weed coming up with a video like this.
There are group of incestuous British Historians who immitate each other haughty moralistic style. Kershaw, Bevoir, Tooze are three recent malparacticioairs of their fallen art like Fergusson who seem to immitate their style. I find them cowardly and vacous not only do they avoid issues such as genetics they explicity go out of the way to reject them without cognicient argument. Morover they have moral agendas they must ‘steer’ us towards, never being honest, courageous or respectfull enough to let us decide for ourselves. I’ve just finnished reading R. H. S. Stolfi’s “Hitler; beyond Tyranny and Evil” and have realised what a massive, deranged tosser Kershaw is. It’s like the epiphany I was seeking and received from reading culture of critique. I have not read Nial Fergussons book but I have watched his BBC documentary based on the book and that is enough. By God, the BBC are impressive documentary makers but how British intelligence, reasoning cabillity and intellectual honesty in the literature have fallen of so horribly and anguishinly after about 1956. Rips my soul.
@blue rose: That’s a pretty stupid video by White Rabbit.”. It kind of did it for me but then I think two factors did it for me, the cute White females which kicked in my protective instinct and the fact I am well down the road to being receptive to this message. Be honest, what would do it for you?
@Bear:
The video ‘did it’ for you? I’m confused. You realize the cartoon showed the British arriving on the shore and talking liberal trash to the American Indians, who knew better, right? Just re-arrange the players in the cartoon: the British = libtards today, and the American Indians = WNs today.
I don’t get what you are saying.
As to the drawing of the little doe-eyed and teary-eyed white girl, all she represented were the images we see of third world children rummaging through garbage heaps in their own countries while a Christian Feed-the-Children spokesman in the background gets people to send money.
Clearly White Rabbit has missed the mark on this video. They must be on drugs.
Another message from the cartoon is just replace the American Indians with the white British, as one of them spies hordes of Muslims and other third worlders slowly making for the shores. Then the white British will be saying the same things as the American Indians did, and the Muslim/third worlders will be saying things like ‘race is just a social construct’, etc. I imagine this is what White Rabbit was trying to get across, but the cartoon fell flat on its face. The cartoon concept just is not convincing to me, and I rooted in fact for the American Indians.
Don’t bogart that joint my friends!
Niall Ferguson needs to explain why it is that if Jews have not accepted universalism for themselves that Muslims will for themselves.
@blue rose:
I’m not impressed with the video either.
The British government on numerous occassions attempted to put the indians on the same political level with the same political rights as the Anglo/Germanic colonists. This kicked off numerous revolts like Bacon’s Rebellion.
Follow this up with the French & Indian War directed at stopping the American colonists from expanding westward by the French & Indians. Then the American Revolution which west of the Blue Ridge was fought by Americans against the British & Indians. Then the large scale, but, forgotten Indian Wars starting in the mid-1780′s, where British trained & equipped Indians were let loose on the new American nation.
You probably never heard of St. Clair’s Defeat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair%27s_Defeat
….by teaching kids Western liberal arts? I doubt a population built on mass migration from non-Western lands would be enthusiastic about Elizabethan England, Homer, Chaucer, Aquinas, or even Shakespeare.
Non-westerners have no reason to care to learn about these things. Each has their own history and wants their own history told and be taught in the classrooms, as we see happening today. And anyway, not everyone (including Westerners) have access to a good liberal education like that.
As Israel Zangwill said in advocating a Jewish strategy for unrestricted immigration, “tell them they are destroying American ideals” (see p. 267).
In PDF format Chapter 8 turns out to be 64 pages. I doubt if I have time to read the entire 64 pages to locate Zangwill’s statement to see in what context he said that about ‘destroying American ideals’. That seems a pretty significant statement when one wants to be convinced of the Jewish undermining of the U.S. I wonder if someone, Prof. MacDonald perhaps, might mention on which page of the PDF file that statement appears on? Would be helpful.
I also have an interest in this idea of Universalism and Unitarianism (or early Transendentalism), so I definitely want to read the link to that. I came across these mystical concepts in the really scarey novel called ‘Uncle Silas’, a Victorian Gothic mystery-thriller novel by the Irish writer J. Sheridan Le Fanu. (The BBC did a wonderful adaptation of the novel, but the BBC always does the 18th Century best.) I’ve been interested in American Transcendental, like with the Christian mystic Emanuel Swedenborg; I found it really fascinating there was such an interest in these things in the 18th Century in America.
@Tom:
omg, no, I never heard of St. Claire’s Defeat. I will have to read the wiki on that. Thanks.
I can’t say I ever paid much attention to American History. It bored me no end. I especially did not like the treatment of the American Indians at the time. I am so grateful to hear that ‘The British government on numerous occassions attempted to put the indians on the same political level with the same political rights as the Anglo/Germanic colonists.’ Very enlightened of the British, I must say, notwithstanding the irony of an ‘Enlightened’ artificial nation built on Enlightenment principles that could not, of its own, think for a minute that here were ancient tribes of American Indians already here. Seems to me the colonizers would want to learn from them, instead of slaughtering them and attempting a genocide. It was things like this that turned me off to American History. American Indian Spirituality always struck me as higher than what passes for pulpit-derived Christianity in America. Especially the fanatics like the Puritans.
@blue rose:
The American Indians were different than the Mexican Indians. The Mexican Indians would rip out their enemies heart, and eat it. The American Indians would split their enemies skull, pull out their brain, and eat it.
@blue rose:
“The video ‘did it’ for you? I’m confused.”
Actually I though I saw the White Rabbit White genocide song.
” You realize the cartoon showed the British arriving on the shore and talking liberal trash to the American Indians, who knew better, right?”
When “Lord Nelson” told the indians who were trying to object to the settlers living in America that they were ‘racist’ for not ‘sharing the ‘globe’ and that ‘race is just a social construct’ I think we can say that it is tongue in cheek inversion.
@Tom:
I guess the thing to do would be to become an anthropologist, because I’m sure not all American Indians split the skull and ate the brains, if some did. The Mexicans of course were different, yes. In any event, I’m sure the torture methods and killing methods of Americans (and even in Europe) at least rivaled any alleged atrocities *some* American Indians ever did. It may be called the hated word ‘relativism’, but I don’t care for always thinking in terms of *generalizations* either. Except for the Jews of course.
I think Ricardo Duchesne’s has utterly nailed Fergussons idiotic politically correct fogginess in evading the full scope of the situation and skirting around the solution. To be an intellect don’t you have to be honest? One of the more puerile ‘solutions’ I often hear now is that to ‘save’ western civilisation it is neccesary to increase 3rd world immigration.
@Bear: I don’t think “Blue Rose” has ever experienced “tongue in cheek inversion”. :)
@Bear:
Anyone who has spent time studying the perennial topic of this blog already knows the answer to that question. Don’t they?
@Gregor:
Excuse me, Gregor. “Tongue-in-cheek inversion” is what I was trying to say all along. Only I didn’t use that phrase. You would have understood instinctively what I had posted and that I was fully aware of “tongue-in-cheek inversion”.
What threw me as to what Bear was getting at was his aside about “the cute White females which kicked in my protective instinct”. I should have asked him to explain exactly what he meant here. It sounded to me like he was in favor of the British and everything they said in the cartoon (about ‘race being a social construct’ and the rest of the liberal creed) just on the mere cartoon drawing of a doey and teary-eyed little white female that ‘kicked in’ his ‘protective instinct’. While I understood the entire exchange between the American Indian and the British to be ‘tongue-in-cheek’ inversion’, yet it sounded like he was in favor of the liberal lies being told to the American Indians just by mere dint of a doey and teary-eyed little white female being brought into the cartoon. In other words, I experienced a moment of cognitive dissonance. This led me to think, ‘ well what goes around now comes around for whitey’, if you know what I mean. THERE’S ‘tongue-in-cheek inversion’ for ya.
All this over an ignorant cartoon made by White Rabbit.
But don’t tell me I don’t know ‘tongue-in-cheek inversion’ when I see it. *smiles*
Not a bad article, but I’d question the claim that “the transformations of American society in the post–Civil War era…favored immigration.” The Republicans were the dominant party in the US following the war and many, if not most, were nativists or “Know-Nothings”. President Grant was a Know-Nothing before he joined the Republicans. The Democrats then, as now, were the pro-immigrant party. Consider this: twenty years after the Civil War the Chinese exclusion acts were passed. These were followed by ever more anti-immigrant legislation designed to preserve America’s ethnic make-up.
The Civil War resulted in a lot of changes — many of which were indeed negative — but mass immigration into the US preceded that conflict while the legislation halting it was passed afterwards.
The Republicans were quite happy with immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe at a time when immigration was opposed by labor unions, the South and the West. Jewish immigration eventually had a huge impact on the country in a way that Italian and non-Jewish immigration from Eastern Europe did not. Jewish immigration to America dates from 1880 until the Immigration Restriction law of 1924. In Chapter 7 of CofC, it is noted that American public opinion was opposed to immigration by around 1900, but the doors were kept open, and a lot of that effort came from Jewish activism.
Didn’t Niall Ferguson ditch his wife for his Somali mistress?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249095/The-history-man-fatwa-girl-How-David-Cameron-news-think-tank-guru-Niall-Ferguson-deserted-wife-Sue-Douglas-Somali-feminist.html
How very multicultural of him.
@blue rose:
Let me assure you that I’m not exaggerating, the Indians were little different from the wild animals of the forest. You should read some of the literature, and accounts of Indian behavior in North America.
There is a common term you read in almost all early American writing about the Indians—”the Indians were upon us”. In those days before repeating weapons, combat was hand to hand with the Indians. You might get a shot off, but, before you could reload, it was knife, axe, hatchet, whatever weapon you could use.
It should also be remembered that the Indians were as brutal to their Indian enemies as they were to White people.
If maybe a dozen Jewish historians were either scalped, had their finger nails pulled out, beaten with clubs, their skulls split, their brains eaten, roasted on fires while being poked with flamming brands, they might have a different view of the American Indians and early American history.
Can you imagine a Jew historian grabbed by his forelocks, his hair & scalp pealed from his head with a rusty knife before he died screaming for holy Israel.
Good grief! Well, it will be very interesting to see how the video plays in the mainstream. I’m expecting it to be a phenomenon, but it also had not even occurred to me that any pro-White who saw it wouldn’t like it! I am still so naive.
Those of you who don’t like this video, I can’t help wondering what WOULD light your fires! What would? Is there anything at all that happens in the pro-White world that makes you rapturous with delight?
Rapturous delight was my own reaction to this video.
@blue rose:
Uh, “ignorant”? As in “you an ignunt racist”?
Any other terms from the anti-White lexicon you’d like to lay on us?
I wish everyone were required to take some really hard math courses in their lives so that they could discover that sometimes even their best thoughts are wrong. You strike me as a person who never took any really hard math courses.
Hilarious video. Thanks for including the link on your site. i will have to share.
@Harumphty Dumpty:
Do I really have to respond to this ignoramus?
Excuse me….”lay on us”? Am I so soon excluded from your little clique because I didn’t care for a stupid cartoon by White Rabbit and said so? Sorry, but I do my own thinking and I don’t go lock-step into that good night.
Speaking of which, good night and have a cup of STFU.
@blue rose:
“Sorry, but I do my own thinking”
Ah, you DO have a sense of humor! Good one! This quip of yours didn’t produce in me a feeling of rapturous delight, but it did make me laugh!
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Of course this anti-White is worried by the lack of assimilation by Muslims in Europe. The mere flooding of White countries with non-Whites is not sufficient to carry out the anti-Whites’ program of White Genocide. For Whites to be blended out of existence, there has to be assimilation with the non-Whites.
I often gasp when I regard the balls the Jews have. I mean, Jews could NEVER have tamed this land. Badass white men tamed this land. The mexicans couldn’t do it either.
Now, all of them have to gang up on us to kick our butts. None of them alone, not the Jews or the blacks or the browns could do it alone. No way.
I keep hearing “amnesty” after BO gets reelected, as his way of paying back his brown friends. If this happens, the shit will hit the fan for sure.
“Ferguson has become a usefull idiot in furthering these goals.”
And there are so many millions of usefull idiots.
The discussion about the video Gregor embedded has so far been a bit beside the point, since it was created primarily not for pro-Whites but as a tool to bring mainstream Whites to their senses. The important question isn’t how we as pro-Whites feel about it, but how it will be received by mainstream Whites.
Any opinions on that?
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blue rose, having taken a moment to read some of your comments elsewhere, I see you are an interesting and intelligent commenter on Europe. But I don’t think your best thinking has helped you at all to see this video as what it is. Just my opinion of course; the video’s effectiveness with mainstream Whites will be the only meaningful review of it.
@Harumphty Dumpty:
I don’t understand what you are talking about. What do you mean this video’s (the White Rabbit cartoon’s?) effectiveness with mainstream Whites? Where will this video cartoon be shown? on TV? Where are mainstream Whites suppose to be seeing this video?
No where, from what I can see. Gregor simply posted it here for our edification. And thankfully TOO put up another one. So this entire thing with this cartoon is a total waste of time.
And even if it were meant for a prime time commercial, the cartoon is absurd. Seems to me any white Americans seeing it would simply side with the the wise and noble American Indians and come away with another case of the guilts, this time feeling guilty over how American Indians were treated.
Anyway this whole thread over this idiotic cartoon is a waste. It’s not going anywhere and it was posted for our amusement only.
Well, I spoke too soon as usual. The silly cartoon is back at the top after all.
@Harumphty Dumpty:
“Sorry, but I do my own thinking”
Ah, you DO have a sense of humor! Good one! This quip of yours didn’t produce in me a feeling of rapturous delight, but it did make me laugh!
How terribly drole. I’m going to let this slide for now and bite my tongue of a couple of choice descriptive terms. For the moment, I’ll let Alice do the talking:
“I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’ ” Alice said.
Harumphty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t—till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’ ”
“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.
“When I use a word,” Harumphty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Harumphty Dumpty, “which is to be master– that’s all.”
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Harumphty Dumpty began again. “They’ve a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they’re the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!”
@James Atworth:
I have no problem with Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s writings given her background her arguments are congruent and certainly not an attack but in support of western values and we as Whites could regard her as a friend. She is not one of those PC cultural relativists denigrating us, I could not in all fairness expect anymore from a Black person. However given Niall Ferguson’s, shall we say, lack of integrity in his personal life can we expect racial loyalty to his race and culture or him to take the interest of the millions of White people now being minoritised and alienated in their own countries of birth. He strikes me as the kind of person who has mastered the art of self deception and playing to an audience. His History of money and banking is entertaining but as soon as he steps into any kind of social analysis he gets with the programm and puts his blinkers on.
I don’t even have a problem with him having sexual relations with Hirsi, just so long as he doesn’t make any babies though leaving his wife and 3 children in such a public manner is very unseemly
It’s worth noting that people in Fergussons position (and mine) deal exclusively with elite’s of other races whether it is with academics, officials, government people or the well paid waitress at the Raddison Hotel in Delhi. Self cocooned thusly they see become loyal to their ‘elite’ group. Christopher Lasch’s “Revolt of the Elites” was a seminal analysis for me. Once there is nationalist success such men will fall in line to reap the rewards.
As a Jew, I am getting increasingly disturbed by the groundswell of hatred toward ALL jews in general for the crimes and misdemeanors of the few.
This article predicts a future war between America and Israel. It looks forward, almost gloatingly, to the extermination of Jews in America en masse by angry Whites “once they discover the truth about 9/11″ — i.e., that Jews were supposedly behind it:
http://www.darkmoon.me/2012/911-bombshell-%E2%80%94-the-truth-about-911-will-destroy-israel/
An interview between Ferguson and a BUGSer or even a mantra user would be very funny.
The “How whites took over America” video is anti-white cult attacking gold!
@Gregor:
Brilliant piece of work Gregor.
Is there any way you can upload it to YouTube using an account that otherwise uploads neutral or PC/anti-white videos?
I think this will make it a lot easier for a lot more people to propagate it.
@Miriam K:
I agree it is worrying Miriam…especially when you consider that developments like this would very much be in line with hundreds of similar events in the past, generally occuring roughly 50-100 years after Jewish settlement was initially welcomed and great generosity and trust extended.
But – with respect – I would suggest you would do more good by addressing your concerns within the Jewish community, such that there is pehaps some new ‘growth’ of insight at the damage being done by those few among them.
Most Jewish people are decent, law abiding…non-hateful and actually very generous. Just like most White people. I know that.
@blue rose:
Rose, I’m glad you added the “smiles”. We share a “sense of humor”, and that’s good!
BUT, all of your comment and the preceding ones display to me that you really did NOT “get it” regarding that video. Maybe standing on your head and watching will improve vision? :)
BTW: The “White Rabbit” wasn’t the concept-creator of that video, it was a guy named Adelheim. Horus was in the movie, but Adelheim created the concept. Just to clarify where credit is due, even if it didn’t “come across” to you.
When I first viewed it yesterday it had less than 300 views. As of now, over 10k. I’m not sure what that means ….
@Miriam K:
Anything new in this? Tsk, tsk.
@Mickey Meadows:
Mickey, that video was NOT my work. I wish I could take credit for the insidious brilliance encoded in it, but I cannot. Regarding where it could be uploaded to be more effective, I have no control over that. The guys that do are all present at
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/04/03/for-your-visual-pleasure/
Drop on by that space and talk to the people who MADE the film. I’m sure they’d be open to any questions or thoughts you might have.
Some of the AMPW “discussers” here may have a hard time understanding …
“No matter how good a book is, you have to break the mentality that makes people put it down after looking at the title.”
… and for the same reason they have a hard time understanding the video about “How Whites Took Over America”.
If you want cookies, follow the crumbs to …
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/04/04/the-mantra-is-not-a-program/
@Gregor:
This was good insight by Bob. Too many on the pro-White are selling saving Whites as only a subset of some other ideology. I enjoy the discussions over libertarianism, limited government, etc., but most of it is not urgent, to say the least. And worrying over the fate of Christianity vs Paganism is a centuries long project.
Meanwhile, Whites are in danger of losing every country they live in. This is an emergency.
I will tell people this: It feels good to post the mantra, or just some part of it a few times a day. Just copy and past your favorite part, even if just a sentence, and get it out there. Now, this is not some full solution – not at all. But it is actually something most of us can DO. And that will make you feel better. It’s actually fun trying to change the national discourse by introducing the term “anti-White” into regular conversation.
@blue rose:
One thing with those YouTube videos is that they can go “viral” as they say – in other words, suddenly millions of people look at it. Kids today spend a ton of time on YouTube – almost as much as TV! So, the message is actually quite good. It is subversive to the anti-White side. They are promising even more videos of even higher quality – I was quite impressed with this one, in terms of substance and production values.
Remember, we live in an age where people sit at work and watch YouTube videos, so it’s a real opportunity.
You know, I defended this Ferguson guy before, and as far as Establishment Boys, he is probably one of the better. But it is still bad what he sells. It’s not just some “killer apps” that makes White Civilization great. Trying running those killer apps on any brown country on earth. Good luck.
It’s like trying to run Windows 7 on an old 8086 computer. It just locks up. This is what we have to rediscover and say proudly. It was never a religion, or an ideology, or a set of ideas – it was US and it always has been.
@blue rose:
“I don’t understand…”
Ah, the beginning of wisdom.
“Where are mainstream Whites suppose to be seeing this video?…
No where, from what I can see…Gregor simply posted it here for our edification…It’s not going anywhere and it was posted for our amusement only.”
Well, I spoke too soon as usual.
“Seems to me any white Americans seeing it would simply side with the the wise and noble American Indians and come away with another case of the guilts, this time feeling guilty over how American Indians were treated.”
Gregor, have you read the 10,000 comments posted to the video on youtube since it was put up two days ago, and seen that response? I suppose there could be a few.
My own reaction was that the video brilliantly took the current struggle with PC and ripped that struggle loose from its customary setting in which PC prejudices (“you are an R-word,” “we all bleed red,” etc.) are warmly accepted BECAUSE THEY ARE DIRECTED AGAINST WHITES, and directed those prejudices instead AGAINST HALLOWED “NATIVE AMERICANS.”
Thus bringing one set of PC prejudices into conflict with another set of PC prejudices.
The whole BUGS approach (the video is a BUGS production) is to illuminate the contradictions in PC. That’s why we don’t just point out that all White countries are being flooded with non-Whites and Whites legally forced to assimilate with the non-Whites and be blended out of existence, but that this is being done ONLY to White countries!
All the PC that supports that genocidal program against Whites is for WHITES ONLY!
EXCEPT IN THIS VIDEO, where PC is also FOR NON-WHITES! That doesn’t happen in real life, and that’s why this video packs a wallop!
@blue rose:
People I care about put a lot of work into that video, and you called the work “stupid” and “ignorant,” and (somewhat humorously, to be fair) said they must have been on drugs.
When you select that style as the mode of expressing your disagreement with something that other people care about, you should expect to be responded to in kind.
@Miriam K: Ah, there you are! As interesting as the comments here are, your periodic screeds always add a good bang to the thread.
@Jason Speaks and Gregor:
Well, I don’t get it. I can’t imagine a silly video like that going ‘viral’. The thing is, after viewing it I was left rooting for the American Indians. Seems to me the Left and Liberals will simply discard the ‘race is a social construct’ speech and once again point to Whites as oppressors of the American Indian.
But whatever. I’ve wasted enough time with this cartoon. The cartoon just seems an awkward way of getting a ‘tongue-in-cheek inversion’ across.
“…after viewing it I was left rooting for the American Indians.”
Me too. That’s the brilliance of the video. PC-trained mainstream White viewers will side with the Indians even more, and doing that, how will they be able to still side with all the PC baloney that’s being directed at the Indians?
That’s the conflicted state that the video seeks to provoke in mainstream White viewers I’m sure. The video presents PC in a reversed setting that will reveal its naked madness.
@Harumphty Dumpty:
I agree. The psychological balance is in our favour. But it’s a subtle business…and for this reason I tend to be quite hopeful that an awful lot of Whites are spending an awful lot of time fuming away to themselves with no one to talk to except online, and that this is driving a rapid development of a psychological instinct of ‘what is good for the whites’ to quite a sophisticated degree such that people can get this sort of fine balance right.
This is amazing. This is the sort of insights that will be needed for the upcoming struggle which will be as devious and multi-faceted as any that has ever occured.
Once again I find myself looking upon the European people and marveling at their innate genius, and how so much of what is special about them derives from the common/ordinary folk among them. It is ordinary people out there by the bucket load, now evolving the psychological instincts and mental tools that onsome level – not necessarily intellectual – that they know will be needed.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve been spending time in the comments section of “The Video” (the one at the top right of this site).
It’s a veritable GOLD MINE for seeing how to use talking points to “handle” anti-Whites.
Copy/Paste to your heart’s content, and you’ll have all the “ammo” you need to go into anti-White spaces and disrupt the hell out of the anti-White narrative!
In case you haven’t noticed that video, it’s here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacvR87FzBU
@Harumphty Dumpty:
Here’s a fun comment from THE VIDEO. Views are about 15,000, and comments just clicked past 2000.
“Hilarious and ironic! This clip uses all the dirty liberal Left tricks in this role reversal: “race is just a social construct”, “common African ancestor”, “one race, “diversity is our strength”, “Neo Nazi conspiracy theory”, “just skin color”, “person inside that matters”, “Nazi”, “too short to go around full of hate”, “we’ll all be integrated”, “pay taxes”, “racist attitudes”, “one humanity”, “superior race”, “supremacist”, “persecution” abroad, “discrimination”. Very clever production.”
@Felix:
Nice to know I have one admirer on this site.
@Gregor: Gregor, mantras have their place. No doubt about it. They have much in common with symbols. However, mantra’s spoken without a total belief by the individual uttering or writing them will come through very unconvincingly. They will have exactly the effect of a fork hitting water. Remember that commercial just a while ago, where a tech company called “double my speed.com” ran a commercial on radio where everyone that uses that service goes around like a zombie uttering “double my speed.com , double my speed.com.? No matter what the persons spouse asks them, they just go around babbling “double my speed.com, so amazed are they by the results of the service that company offers.
European-Americans don’t exhibit the sense of urgency that one would expect them to, considering the massive attacks being waged against them from so many quarters. I can see the value of a mantra, spoken over and over, but if it stops there, NOTHING WILL, IN THE LONG RUN BE ACHEIVED.
That is why Americans need to be guided back to their roots, to the time of their glory. Back to a connection with their European-Ancestors that created this marvelous country. Think of all the English-American history back east. Think of all the German, Dutch, Norwegian, French, Polish, Italian, Croation, Serbian, Greek, etc.etc.etc. history in this nation, and the fantastic country created from it all. My sense is, most Americans are oblivous to all of this, have forgotten it, and need to reconnect to it, by reading about it, participating in it, and seeing the value of it.
If part of the mantra is China for the Chinese, Africa for the………….etc.etc. than it seems to me that AMericans better get serious in reclaiming their history, who they are, what they accomplished, etc, How many blogs have I read where many hispanics are becoming so arrogant that they are actually claiming they and the “slaves” and other Non-European Americans, created the U.S.? Does anyone reading this get my drift? You better believe it’s about collectivism, because no matter what folks like Marcy and the libertarians preach, NO ONE IN THE U.S. HAS ANY POWER OR RIGHTS AT ALL, OUTSIDE OF A GROUP, AND THE LARGER THAT GROUP IS THE MORE RIGHTS AND POWER THEY HAVE, so my apologies ahead of time, to all of the Constitutionalists and Bill of Rightists that think otherwise.
@Hedgerow: Right! in my humble opinion.
@Bobby:
As one of those constitutionalists and semi-libertarians, you may be surprised that I agree with you. The constitution was written for a self-governing people, that is, people capable of controlling themselves. It is clear that it is inadequate to deal with those unwilling or unable to control themselves and accept responsibility for their own actions. Jews took one look at the constitution and decided this is a contract they could work with. They have been perverting it ever since.
If I had a magic wand, I would have us all to join together to work to free ourselves from the monstrous federal government we now live under. White loyalty for white freedom!
@Alice Teller: Wow! There’s a mantra for you. “White loyalty for white freedom.” Tee shirt worthy, at the least.
@Harumphty Dumpty: This was a brilliant video.
@Bobby: Right Bobby, whatever you say.
You see, I’ve been so busy working over anti-Whites for the last couple of hours, I’m not sure if I have the time to READ all the reasons you give for me to stop doing that, and sit here and read your stuff instead. It’s a real problem.
You see, if I spend time reading stuff like “NOTHING WILL, IN THE LONG RUN BE ACHEIVED”, I won’t have a chance to get off my ass and actually ACHIEVE what I’m achieving.
And if I dwell on your discussion of “NO ONE IN THE U.S. HAS ANY POWER OR RIGHTS AT ALL”, I won’t have time to log into all kinds of sites and slam the anti-White narrative with all the other people having fun messing up the stuff you are still complaining about.
Maybe you could help me out with an answer: Should I read more of your ideas, or should I continue whittling away at the problem itself?
And now Alice Teller is Tellering us what she WOULD do, IF she had a MAGIC WAND.
Alice, back on planet earth, we don’t have those, so we work with what we do have and don’t prance around talking about what we WOULD do, only IF we had a magic wand. Please stop this crap!
@Gregor:
Please explain why it is more productive to lash out in anger and bitterness at a fellow white rather than in agreement and fellowship?
@Gregor: Easy man, I see your point and was simply trying to present an addition to the mantra idea. If I sounded critical of you in any other way, I wasn’t. I’ve enjoyed most of your postings in fact. Beleive me, I know how to be critical and it wouldn’t have been like what I wrote.
@Gregor: P.S. It @Gregor: P.S. Gregor, try reading my posts more carefully if youre’ even going to bother. Where exactly did I tell you or anyone else to stop doint what your’e doing?
@Bobby I see your points too, and I do read what you write. I read all the posts on TOO. I’m not criticizing you …
I’m just making a point! :)
@Alice Teller:
Now Alice waves her imaginary magic wand and becomes an instant mind reader! Alice’s magic stick tells her that Gregor is “lashing out in anger and bitterness”, and at “fellow whites” no less.
Silly silly Alice! In her OPINION her magic wand makes her a mind-reader, meanwhile Alice hasn’t the slightest idea at what Gregor is busy doing.
@Gregor:
No need to be a mind reader to grasp the anger and bitterness in your comment to me. I am white. I assumed you were too.
@Alice Teller:
Alice, Alice, Alice!
It seems to me that you look into your computer screen as if it were Cinderella’s Mirror. You put on your lipstick, poof your hair and ask the question: “Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the most pro-white of them all?”
When the mirror catches you playing with sticks and telling everyone what you WOULD do if you had a MAGIC WAND, and tells you to “cut the crap and get real” … you lash out at the mirror, “You’re a very angry and bitter mirror for pointing out that I’ve got lipstick on my eyebrows!”.
And then Alice storms away from the mirror, hurling a catty comment at it, “I am white. I assumed you were too”.
The mirror just sits there, reflecting.
@Gregor:
You may want to consult another White Rabbit. We were warned of the times “when logic and proportion fall down sloppy dead”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9A8C4lN_7fw7fFYtc5rHIb1
@Alice Teller:
“fellowship”
Fellowship arises most easily among humans who are working together on a shared project.
Right now that’s happening right here where pro-Whites properly armed and trained are blowing the anti-White narrative to smithereens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacvR87FzBU&feature=plcp&context=C4660e90VDvjVQa1PpcFMUXSBCP0CXLIqoER3Q8YQdefBDXJLXgv4%3D
Oops, I didn’t mean to embed, and I was referring to the war (more like a massacre) being waged in the comment section right now.
The comment section to that video at youtube…sorry.
@Alice Teller: Alice, thanks for the flashbacks! I was “there” when that song “happened”. But I always liked this one better ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmAmJFUvzM&feature=player_embedded#!
@blue rose: p. 402 of the PDF version, p. 327 of the book. You can always press “Control” and “f” at the same time and type “Zangwill” in the search window to locate all mention of the word in the PDF. Saves time.
@Gregor:
Got it – certainly no anger there!
@Gregor: Gregor, I didn’t fully Morrison and this great rock band when they were at the height of their fame. I like them yes, but didn’t realize how great they actually were at the time. “Riders on the storm” their last song was ethereal and true genius.
@Bobby: “appreciate” is the missing word above.
@Richard: I think you are right on the money. If multiculturalism is so good, why do the massively Han Chinese (92% of the nation, most of the others some other Asian looking race) look to economically surpass the multicultural US? Probably because diversity is not a strength, just a recipe for a police state to stop all the “mistreatment”, and tax and divide the spoils.
Multiculturalism benefits the elite and the rich, to divide and conquer the poor. That is why the jews love it so much, because they will always be outnumbered, except at the money trough.
We should make a secret deal with the Muslims. Limit your population in America and Europe to under 2%, and we will limit white Christians in your countries to under 2%. Then tell the jews to head to Africa, and make them buy the land this time, along one of the coastlines. Then give the land in “Israel” back to the people it was stolen from after WWII.
@Trenchant:
Oh. Thanks for that information. I didn’t know about there was a way to locate something within a PDF. I’ll make a note of it. Thanks for letting me know.
@Marcy Fleming: He was a puppet. Read the Chinese documents. He was brainwashed by Russian Jews to promulgate a new revolution.
Jews communized Russia, and China.
And Indians saw themselves as part of the land, whereas Whites saw the land as belonging to them.
@Bobby: You’re not alone with failing to appreciate a the Doors (as poets and such) at the time. I don’t know YOUR excuse, but mine was that pretty little 17-year old that accompanied me to one of their concerts! :) What sane young male in that situation would focus on “the words”!
@knowthyenemy: I’d be very interested in getting some links to the documents you reference. I don’t doubt you, but would like to know more.
When I was studying Chinese in college, there was one guy (not in the class) who “hung around” with the rest of us studying the language. He spoke it fluently, even “street Chinese”, because he grew up there. He was VERY jewish, and said that his father was an “economic advisor” to Mao’s government. When he lived, and grew up, in China, it would have been in the mid-sixties … a very dicey time there.
I always wondered what the hell his father was actually “advising” about. I still do … so if you have more info (links), I’d love to see them. Of course, jewish influence goes way further back in time than the period I mentioned. We all know about that, so no need to go into that.
@Gregor: Ahhh, Gregor, now you did it. My excuse was a 16 year old, same age as me, girl from Canada. A short description for old times sake. She was blond with big brown eyes and ivory skin, with a beautiful smile and ful lips. Yes, she assisted me in ignoring most everything in high school except my cross-country, swim team, and track obligations. When she returned to Canada, British Columbia ; how I got through college and actually received my degree is a mystery to me to this day. Nevertheless, the Doors were with me every single year through high school, creating one great hit after another. God bless the lizard man and the rest of those guys. The other big group at the time was Chicago. I’d never trade that period of my life for gold.
@Gregor:
I can give you no link to real documents, but for an impression that will only confirm your worst suspicions, go to : JewishFaces.com > More Jewish Faces > Government > China. Enjoy.
@Gregor: “One gets chills hearing a refugee tell how none of the Jews in Shanghai even knew about the Holocaust until the war was over.” Indeed.
http://www.gluckman.com/ShangJewFilm.htm
Shanghai Ghetto (2002) is quite interesting, too.
http://goo.gl/ud9oV
@Miriam K: Miriam: I can sense your increasing level of concern, but perhaps you could ponder the following question:
What should be the reaction of a racial group of people – when they finally begin to grasp, on a massive scale – that they have been targeted for genocide by jews, who’ve hijacked one historic White European nation after another, and who are using their disproportionate power to systematically and maliciously wage a full scale war of blatant persecution and eventual total extermination against the majority White populations of these host nations?
And, as for your assertions that there is a groundswell of hatred and anger towards all jews in general, for the ‘crimes and misdemeanors’ of the few – I would have to point out that the lower level jews are, by and large, fully on board and 100 percent in agreement with nearly all of the anti-White, anti-majority positions and ideologies of the elitist jews at the top.
Polling data is very clear and easy to read on this issue. Keeping the borders open and increasing non-white immigration into historic White majority nations is overwhelmingly supported by nearly the entire jewish diaspora community. Opposition to White racial pride, White racial consciousness and to White racial solidarity, i.e., White Nationalism – is also widespread and the dominant view in nearly the entire jewish diaspora community.
Hostility to any expression by Whites that they do not wish to be reduced to a minority inside their own native homelands and any expressions of resistance to being subjugated to permanent rule by a motley collection of blacks, mestizos, and other non-whites from every failed third world nation on the planet – again, nearly 100 percent of high and low level jews would support passage of laws to criminalize any and all White resistance to their own dispossession and subjugation.
Then, there are the jews who pretend to be on the side of Whites who are opposing these open borders, race replacement, white genocide policies of the hostile elite jews at the top of our government. Even these jews will try their very best to deflect the issue and all-important matter of race and racial differences – when they ‘offer advice’ (a.k.a, Ilana Mercer) to pro-White advocates that they should not try to appeal to their fellow Whites on the basis of race or to try to motivate them to fight for their perfectly legitimate ethnic and racially specific interests. To state that all jews, big or little – vociferously oppose and fear the resurrection of the White racial consciousness that the Hollywood jews have spent the last 50 plus years trying to demonize and eradicate – would be not only truthful, but also an understatement.
So, again I pose the question: What would you, Miriam, want the reaction of Whites to be once they have finally grasped the ugly truth that they are involved in what is clearly a race war with your fellow jews – and that those jews have as their ultimate objectives the following: (a) Reduction of Whites to minority status inside every historic White European founded nation, (b) Creation and the imposition of a Soviet-style, totalitarian Police State on top of every historic White European nation – where laws against freedom of speech, and especially against criticism of jews and their policies or against expressions of White racial pride will become the norm, (c) Continued promotion, eventually via government issued mandates, of race mixing (miscegenation) as a means of speeding along the elimination of the White European people by reducing the numbers of White babies being born, and (d) The eventual genocide and extinction of White European people.
I will eagerly await your opinions on how you would prefer Whites to react to their awakening to their planned genocide. Oh, and at a minimum – I would think that most reasonably intelligent people would have to conclude that there is no possibility of Whites being able to continue to share the same geographic territory with an alien race that has shown through their malicious behavior and through the silence of their low-level tribe members that they are a dangerous threat to the continued existence of White European men, women, and children.
@Vlad Writes: That 2% is going to get lonesome for their relatives, Brother Vlad. And, unless every White European nation passes a law that mandates the immediate application of the death penalty for any White do-gooder who espouses ‘liberalism’ – which in this case, would prompt these race traitorous White liberals to allow that 2% Muslim population to import their relatives, visi vi, chain immigration – it would not be very long, before that 2% deal turned into 20% of the population.
And, we’d be right back to where we started.
Couldn’t stomach Niall Ferguson’s hyper politically correct book about World War Two. What a Neoconrunningdog. Ugh.
@Luke: Luke, I’ve surprised myself by NOT, even regarding your recommendation on liberals in Europe to be in any way radical, so serious is the situation that only an outright traitor or stupid individual would fail to see it. When you have descendants of people like Vincent Van Gough having their throats slit in public and still don’t get it, you are a liability, you are poison to the people and nation you live in.
@Bobby: The Muslims wouldn’t be there if there did not exist a coalition of the willing (read about Luttazzo’s “crusade” in the piece appended). This alliance of convenience is not confined to continental Europe, either.
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives%20-%20News/archive-news-2005-0915.htm
@Bobby: Note also Pope Benedict’s sole mention of Jesus in his speech at the Cologne synagogue: “Whoever meets Jesus Christ meets Judaism.”
Anodyne, or what?
One practical thing we can all do right now is to sign the online petition against White Genocide. It has over 500 signatures now but needs more.
http://www.change.org/petitions/robert-walker-whitaker-and-other-american-dissidents-appeal-to-dmitry-anatolyevich-medvedev-for-solidarity-against-white-genocide
@Trenchant:
The Pope has lost it. He’s just the head of a political party now and must tow the PC/MC line.
And considering that in the Talmud, the Jews admit to having Romans kill Jesus and regard him as a heretic and Christians as less than human. There really is no connection. The OT shouldn’t even be studied by Christians, it’s just a old Jewish Mein Kampf that even the Jews themselves no longer study.
We have more of a connection to Athens and their ideals rather than a bunch of artistically blind, murderous, xenophobic herdsmen who believed they were God’s “chosen” people.
@Trenchant: As you well know, “anodyne” is the least of it!
Back in the late eighties, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre said of then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, “He’s not a Catholic.” (Lefebvre had known and dealt with Ratzinger since the Vatican Council twenty-five years earlier, and so he knew whereof he spoke.) Much about JR has changed since then, but little that is essential to his nature, alas.
Benedict/Ratzinger is a Hegelian by training and disposition, and though he is second to none in being repelled by much of the foolishness and—not to mince words—evil that has come in the council’s wake (now extending out fully fifty years), his reaction to those excrescences is founded upon his aristocratic temperament, not his reason. He insists and plainly believes that the “new springtime” that Vatican II’s true believers still speak of has in some sense actually happened. Barring a road-to-Damascus experience, he will go to his grave so insisting and so believing.
Does he fail to see the utter rottenness in the synagogue and its habitués? Or as seems to me more likely, does he fear the damage that a confrontation with it and them might do to the institutional church that he himself has played no small part in compromising? It hardly matters. He has not stood up for the truths of the Faith, truths against which no demonic Tribal structure could stand were he to proclaim them and summon Catholics worldwide to follow his call.
His Master said, in no uncertain terms, “He that is not with Me is against Me; and he that gathers not with Me, scatters.” Even if only by default, the pope is against Him. White Christians are not alone in suffering the consequences.
@Luke: Powerful truth Luke . Though you forgot to mention the Jonkeys promoting this ‘brotherhood’ of mankind : Freemasons and their Zionist masters .
The Miriam’s silence is deafening . As for the sight she posted (yet to have a look but ) this could be dupe sight designed by Zionists to stir the pot of paranoia of Liberal Jews for an Expansionist War in the ME .
We mustn’t forget that the sick Zionists are at war with humanity and anything goes to save their chosen people for all the evil goyem in the world i.e. any none Jew that won’t submit to Jewish control (sooner or later) . They wage war by lies and deception and death : anything goes . Anyone who thinks that by Extending Jewish Israel till its all of the ME is the end of the matter is kidding themselves . The Talmud states that the whole world was designed for Jews to own and do with what they like . This is the heart of Judaism Identity .
This has been the scam right from the beginning of Zionism : As for something , then ask for something more then more and more and more . Now that Zionist Jews have taken over the Western World , they don’t ask , they tell , but this tell is still thinly cloaked by the MSM .With the inevitable crys of Nazi and Anti-semitism thrown to cower the Jonkeys and their flock .
Eventually we will arrive at a situation similar to the USSR . They will tell and any who doesn’t submit will be Gulaged .
This has been the incremental behaviour over the last 70 years . Attack with Communism , Unionism , Multiculturalism : Divide Divide Divide . Get one side to fight the other . Look at the Trayvon Affair : insighting one side against the other using the MSM . This is pathetically simple and why I continually advocate to pre-record any TV : to send down the shoot THEIR offensive propaganda .
80 % of Americans are ignorant Christians & kept that way ??
The whole Old Testament Prophesies & Bible scriptures mumbo jumbo nonsense was written about 500 B.C.
Stories of Samson & Delilah , the Exodus , temple of king David etc are all glorious fiction.
Where are the ruins of this glorious Ancient Jewish Civilization ?
Yet the foundation of Israel is based on all those Biblical myths.
Jewish delusional history as told in the “Greatest Story ever Sold”.
Top Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein has denied the existence of Jewish roots in the city of Jerusalem.
Proffessor Finkelstein at Tel Aviv University, said Jewish archaeologists have failed to unearth historic sites to support some of the stories in the Torah. Among those stories are the Jewish Exodus, the forty-year wandering in the Sinai desert, and Joshua’s victory over the Canaanites. He also said there was no archaeological evidence that concludes that the alleged Temple of Solomon ever existed.
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/top-is….
http://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/13/israeli-scho…
Gullible Crristians have become “Jews for Jesus” by believing in Jews as a Chosen people by God and having a DIRECT mandate .
@Neville:
They also excavated Masada, where the Jews’ famously were supposed to have committed mass suicide instead of surrender to the Roman army…and lo and behold, no signs of any kind of mass suicide were found.
90% of the tribe’s history is probably pure BS, and that goes all the way up today, They don’t even know what’s true or not anymore; probably why so many of them are in therapy and mental institutions. You can only lie to the goyim so much that you start believing your own lies.
@fender: Do you have any supportive links or book or essay titles for the Masada assertion? I don’t disbelieve you, but documentation can be very helpful, as you know.
@Pierre de Craon:
http://blog.hmns.org/?tag=mass-suicide
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286607,00.html
@fender: Thanks very much. This is all news to me. The mainstream nature of these reports will be a very useful credibility factor for some of the people I intend to forward the links to.
Pierre de Craon —April 9, 2012 – 11:50 pm
fender is right & that is why Jews have a “terror” that all of these myths will be exposed leaving Israel as a total fraud.
Remember the attempt to create a 6 million Jewish Holocaust after WWI which failed but then after WWII Hollywood was well prepared.
http://www.amazon.com/The-First-Holocaust-Raising-Campaigns/dp/1591480035
Ben Hect let the way & the rest is history.
It as worth looking at Niall Fergusson review of Charles Murray’s (of Bell Curve fame)
“Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010″ on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-State-America-1960-2010/dp/0307453421/ref=pd_rhf_pe_shvl10
I think White Nationalist who forever name The Jew as the problem are being stupid. I am not exonerating them of their Anti-White antics by any means, but this bunch cannot operate without White collaborators.
Even though I hate the fact that he mowed down scores of Norwegian teenagers, Anders Behring Breivik is onto something. He has stated that he is well aware that the Jews are behind the genocidal Turd World immigration, but he is clear that they could not and cannot continue to do this without help from Norwegian collaborators.
Yes, all the lefty teeny-boppers were agitating on behalf of the Palestinians against Israel when he went after them, but what else would competitively altruistic leftards find common cause over to gather en-masse, but a Non-White, Non-Japhethite population like the Palestinians?
Mind you, I am not pro-Israel. I even feel badly for the Palestinians who did not ask for a guilt-stricken West to make their country the dumping ground of alleged Holocaust survivors.
I just feel that the biggest mistake the USA and Europe made was getting involved in establishing that bandit state. Not that I would be for any Western Caucasian stopping the Jews from emigrating to Palestine, either. But if the West had simply opted for strict neutrality and non-interference, leaving the Jews and the Arabs of that region to sort it out all by themselves, on their lonesome, this would not be the nightmare that it is today. Both groups would have come to terms.
Breivik made it perfectly clear that he did not kill those kids because they were wearing Palestinian colors and chanting anti-Israel slogans. He was pissed off at their parents, indigenous Norwegian traitors for allowing the Muslim and African invasion of his country and wanted to send them a strong message that it better stop or Norwegian nationalists would make sure that THEIR blood ran in the streets.
Every effort should be made to isolate and eliminate White American shabby goy collaborators who have proven that they would sell their own family down the river for their own personal enrichment and advancement.
Jews can only do what they do with a lot of cooperation and collaboration from White race traitors. Anyone can contemplate a mischief, but all they can do is scheme if they don’t have the wherewithal to follow though or the tools to work with.
Eliminate the Shabby Goy White Tools: Boycott the presstitute rags. Boycott Anti-White movies and television programs. Do whatever you can to throw out the Parliament of Whores in Congess even if you have to actively campaign for their opposition. When they were pandering about the Dream Act to the Latino community, I scared the crap out two White senators of my state by letting them know that if they voted this crap in, I would find and campaign for a Hispanic to personally replace them in office. That they are not the only ones who can elect “a new people” and if they were going to replace me, I would do handstands to return the favor. They both backed off that scheme forthwith.
We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by focusing on the Jews’ treacherous White collaborators. We may have to settle for taking them out by a ballet … for now … but I look forward to the day when we can put them all on trial for their lives for treason.