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	<title>Comments on: On the Moral Code: An Exchange among Lasha Darkmoon, E. Michael Jones, and Kevin MacDonald</title>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/on-the-moral-code-an-exchange-among-lasha-darkmoon-e-michael-jones-and-kevin-macdonald/#comment-91555</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is apparent to me that Dr Jones has the better argument. His magnum opus, &lt;i&gt;The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History&lt;/i&gt; thoroughly explains the &#039;Jewish question&#039; from both an historical as well as theological perspective. Dr Robert Sungenis called it &#039;one of the most important books ever written&#039;. It is available at culturewars.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is apparent to me that Dr Jones has the better argument. His magnum opus, <i>The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History</i> thoroughly explains the &#8216;Jewish question&#8217; from both an historical as well as theological perspective. Dr Robert Sungenis called it &#8216;one of the most important books ever written&#8217;. It is available at culturewars.com.</p>
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		<title>By: 90404</title>
		<link>http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/on-the-moral-code-an-exchange-among-lasha-darkmoon-e-michael-jones-and-kevin-macdonald/#comment-90498</link>
		<dc:creator>90404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-89825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skadhi_the_Raverner&lt;/a&gt;: 
Welcome StR, didnt know you posted here.
Yeah, I knew a gal who ran a &#039;clinic&#039; for a doc...
SO I POSTED HER NAME ONLINE.

there are various sites, been cheated by a biz, see
PISSED CONSUMER
RIP OFF REPORTS

Not sure if Facebook would allow &#039;moral&#039; postings, along with their &#039;kill Romney&#039; [or whatever] pages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-89825" rel="nofollow">Skadhi_the_Raverner</a>:<br />
Welcome StR, didnt know you posted here.<br />
Yeah, I knew a gal who ran a &#8216;clinic&#8217; for a doc&#8230;<br />
SO I POSTED HER NAME ONLINE.</p>
<p>there are various sites, been cheated by a biz, see<br />
PISSED CONSUMER<br />
RIP OFF REPORTS</p>
<p>Not sure if Facebook would allow &#8216;moral&#8217; postings, along with their &#8216;kill Romney&#8217; [or whatever] pages.</p>
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		<title>By: 90404</title>
		<link>http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/on-the-moral-code-an-exchange-among-lasha-darkmoon-e-michael-jones-and-kevin-macdonald/#comment-90497</link>
		<dc:creator>90404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baby Killer [I do not buse the term lightly]
I just recalled MotherJones mag, 10? years ago.
Dr Birnbaum [?] in NY, who does the &#039;abortions&#039; on the gals a few weeks before live delivery.
You can do a search.
MOTHER JONES MADE HIM LOOK LIKE A HERO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Killer [I do not buse the term lightly]<br />
I just recalled MotherJones mag, 10? years ago.<br />
Dr Birnbaum [?] in NY, who does the &#8216;abortions&#8217; on the gals a few weeks before live delivery.<br />
You can do a search.<br />
MOTHER JONES MADE HIM LOOK LIKE A HERO.</p>
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		<title>By: 90404</title>
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		<dc:creator>90404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-89173&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Floda&lt;/a&gt;: 
Is that why Hussein sent more US troops in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-89173" rel="nofollow">Floda</a>:<br />
Is that why Hussein sent more US troops in?</p>
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		<title>By: 90404</title>
		<link>http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/on-the-moral-code-an-exchange-among-lasha-darkmoon-e-michael-jones-and-kevin-macdonald/#comment-90494</link>
		<dc:creator>90404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-89294&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Starets&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sleepian was on the way to or from the &#039;gog&#039; when he was killed.
i believe &#039;baby killer&#039; Tiller was as well.
I read that Sleepians &#039;fill in&#039; is an Israeli. [in Buffalo NY]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-89294" rel="nofollow">Starets</a>:<br />
Sleepian was on the way to or from the &#8216;gog&#8217; when he was killed.<br />
i believe &#8216;baby killer&#8217; Tiller was as well.<br />
I read that Sleepians &#8216;fill in&#8217; is an Israeli. [in Buffalo NY]</p>
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		<title>By: 90404</title>
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		<dc:creator>90404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-89031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facio Libre&lt;/a&gt;: 
See Robert Lindsay, blog [if I recall correctly].
He lists % of Euros with &#039;black blood&#039;, Portuguese and Southern Italians at about 5%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-89031" rel="nofollow">Facio Libre</a>:<br />
See Robert Lindsay, blog [if I recall correctly].<br />
He lists % of Euros with &#8216;black blood&#8217;, Portuguese and Southern Italians at about 5%.</p>
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		<title>By: anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@I am not Spartacus: you said:&#039;Neither the Jewish or the Mahometan moral code teaches that one must do good towards th eother&#039;
Both Muslims and Jews are closed to outsiders, teaching their insiders that they alone are &#039;clean&#039; and &#039;righteous&#039; and &#039;lawful&#039; according to their own creeds, customs and rituals.

Christ  constantly confronted and challenged the hypocrisies of his own righteous /mocking ones: there is only One God and that is the God of Truth and Life and the Way.
We are all broken sinners, and depending on the choices we make 24/7 along our life paths, have a chance at redemption.
This begins in our hearts and minds and our guts, using our con science at all times, in accordance with the situations/events confronting us.
Last year, I read in the news of a young Jewish boy who went missing in NYC.  He had finished camp and was waiting for his mother to collect him.
We later heard that he was brutally murdered by an older but still young fellow Jew who had butchered the body and deep freezing it in his mother&#039;s home.  Acc to the news reports, this young man was suffering grief over the death of his mother.  The entire Jewish community closed ranks around this perpetrator, and I have heard nothing more.
A closed system denied all others methinks, and sicker for it.
Similarly, we had a celebrity Jewish stockbroker here, fabulously wealthy and feted by the media.  He ended up suiciding in the second bedroom of his mother&#039;s apartment, even though he had five adult children of his own, and a beautiful wife to whom he was allegedly serially unfaithful.
So to respond to Ken Freeland&#039;s question re Jews being the product of nature or nurture, I say unequivocably: both nature AND nurture.
They are so tightly controlled and conditioned by their closed belief  and Jewish family systems, that they end up with far worse neuroses/psychoses and guilt/shame complexes than most others, when their belief system does not produce the outcome they want/believe themselves &#039;entitled&#039; to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@I am not Spartacus: you said:&#8217;Neither the Jewish or the Mahometan moral code teaches that one must do good towards th eother&#8217;<br />
Both Muslims and Jews are closed to outsiders, teaching their insiders that they alone are &#8216;clean&#8217; and &#8216;righteous&#8217; and &#8216;lawful&#8217; according to their own creeds, customs and rituals.</p>
<p>Christ  constantly confronted and challenged the hypocrisies of his own righteous /mocking ones: there is only One God and that is the God of Truth and Life and the Way.<br />
We are all broken sinners, and depending on the choices we make 24/7 along our life paths, have a chance at redemption.<br />
This begins in our hearts and minds and our guts, using our con science at all times, in accordance with the situations/events confronting us.<br />
Last year, I read in the news of a young Jewish boy who went missing in NYC.  He had finished camp and was waiting for his mother to collect him.<br />
We later heard that he was brutally murdered by an older but still young fellow Jew who had butchered the body and deep freezing it in his mother&#8217;s home.  Acc to the news reports, this young man was suffering grief over the death of his mother.  The entire Jewish community closed ranks around this perpetrator, and I have heard nothing more.<br />
A closed system denied all others methinks, and sicker for it.<br />
Similarly, we had a celebrity Jewish stockbroker here, fabulously wealthy and feted by the media.  He ended up suiciding in the second bedroom of his mother&#8217;s apartment, even though he had five adult children of his own, and a beautiful wife to whom he was allegedly serially unfaithful.<br />
So to respond to Ken Freeland&#8217;s question re Jews being the product of nature or nurture, I say unequivocably: both nature AND nurture.<br />
They are so tightly controlled and conditioned by their closed belief  and Jewish family systems, that they end up with far worse neuroses/psychoses and guilt/shame complexes than most others, when their belief system does not produce the outcome they want/believe themselves &#8216;entitled&#8217; to.</p>
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		<title>By: I am not Spartacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>I am not Spartacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Or from the wisdom of generations inscribed in the Codifier’s genes? My natural instinct tells me that incest is wrong. I don’t need Moses or Manu to tell me this. If they were to reverse their teachings and tell me that incest was okay, I would not suddenly become pro-incest.

In a word: the moral code is inscribed in our genes. If Jones is repelled by this idea, let him reflect that it is God himself who may be the inscriber&lt;/I&gt;

Any process (especially evolution) which is putatively about random this and mutation that can not rationally be described as having a purpose.

As to questions of sex, perhaps the good doctor would have been ok with polygamy had she been into Mormonism a century ago]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or from the wisdom of generations inscribed in the Codifier’s genes? My natural instinct tells me that incest is wrong. I don’t need Moses or Manu to tell me this. If they were to reverse their teachings and tell me that incest was okay, I would not suddenly become pro-incest.</p>
<p>In a word: the moral code is inscribed in our genes. If Jones is repelled by this idea, let him reflect that it is God himself who may be the inscriber</i></p>
<p>Any process (especially evolution) which is putatively about random this and mutation that can not rationally be described as having a purpose.</p>
<p>As to questions of sex, perhaps the good doctor would have been ok with polygamy had she been into Mormonism a century ago</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Freeland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Freeland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-90409&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I am not Spartacus&lt;/a&gt;: This kind of thinking reduces to moral relativism:  So you are saying, then, that what is moral for a Jew is not moral for a gentile and vice versa?   This approach denies the essential claims of natural law, that human reason is incapable of denying certain universal moral truths that are universally applicable.   If you do deny this, then one has to wonder on what basis you would expect international understanding and world peace to ever come about, since conflicting moralities and moral claims offer no common ground for peaceful agreement....it&#039;s just a question, finally, of ethnicity?   Seems rather hopeless (and unreasonable).

But in the end, I do think that this is the question that divides those, even in this debate, that contend on the one hand that everyone is qualitatively equal and therefore susceptible to the same moral accountability, and those who hold that a particular ethnic group (with an unarguably dismal moral track record) is typologically unique and therefore not entitled to the same moral consideration that other human beings might claim as a natural right.   In other words, is it nature or nurture that makes a Jew?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-90409" rel="nofollow">I am not Spartacus</a>: This kind of thinking reduces to moral relativism:  So you are saying, then, that what is moral for a Jew is not moral for a gentile and vice versa?   This approach denies the essential claims of natural law, that human reason is incapable of denying certain universal moral truths that are universally applicable.   If you do deny this, then one has to wonder on what basis you would expect international understanding and world peace to ever come about, since conflicting moralities and moral claims offer no common ground for peaceful agreement&#8230;.it&#8217;s just a question, finally, of ethnicity?   Seems rather hopeless (and unreasonable).</p>
<p>But in the end, I do think that this is the question that divides those, even in this debate, that contend on the one hand that everyone is qualitatively equal and therefore susceptible to the same moral accountability, and those who hold that a particular ethnic group (with an unarguably dismal moral track record) is typologically unique and therefore not entitled to the same moral consideration that other human beings might claim as a natural right.   In other words, is it nature or nurture that makes a Jew?</p>
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		<title>By: I am not Spartacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>I am not Spartacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A moral code does not derive from biology if a moral code is understood as an objective code of behavior applicable to all men in all circumstances for all time and any peek at the Talmud will prove that.

Morality for Jews is different than is morality for Christians; in fact, Jewish morality is more akin to Mahometan morality that it is to Christian morality.

Neither the Jewish or the Mahometan moral code teaches that one must do good towards th eother.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moral code does not derive from biology if a moral code is understood as an objective code of behavior applicable to all men in all circumstances for all time and any peek at the Talmud will prove that.</p>
<p>Morality for Jews is different than is morality for Christians; in fact, Jewish morality is more akin to Mahometan morality that it is to Christian morality.</p>
<p>Neither the Jewish or the Mahometan moral code teaches that one must do good towards th eother.</p>
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