Stages of Developing a White Advocacy Movement

Charles Dodgson

At present the White Advocacy Movement is in the idea-formation phase, actually well advanced. For example, Frank Salter’s On Genetic Interests and Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy on Judaism and other writings form part of a larger literature that analyses the threats faced by White America and the West in general. That has taken a lot of work, typically in the face of discouragement from colleagues and a blackout in the Mainstream Media.

Idea formation is absolutely critical to modern ethnic and nationalist movements. The general pattern in Europe during the 19th century was that small groups of intellectuals would forge a vision of the national community, e.g. in Germany or Poland, long before politicians expressed that vision in political platforms. The ideas that moved people then and now were not race realism. Neither was it economic profit. It was love of country, of culture and of people. The sentiment is fed by ideas about identity and collective need, and is still one of the most potent forces shaping world politics. In a way such intellectuals can be compared to a brother Grimm as well as a brother Mickiewicz because they are engaged in defining America’s national identity. They and their circles go further by defining national interests, all within a scientific framework. There are other circles with their own publications engaged in the same project with different emphases.


While the idea phase is well advanced conceptually, it is weak institutionally. In Germany and Poland leading intellectuals and artists took up the cause. The same is true of 19th-century American patriotism. In Europe and America elements of the elite threw in their lot with the peasants and industrial workers, including aristocrats and army officers in Europe and the wealthy individuals and politicians in America. The elite put class interests aside for the purpose of building a nation, in Germany through unification and defense against French encroachment, in Poland by freeing it from Russian and Prussian rule. The effect was to give nationalist ideas the imprimatur of high social status. The masses were the last to take up the cause as literacy spread and the ideas forged and disseminated by the elite trickled down.

It is the dissemination, not the conceptualization, of White consciousness that is stalled at an early phase, and unless that logjam is loosened, the Movement will never be a major player in national culture or politics. The reason for this logjam has been thoroughly explored by MacDonald and others. America’s cultural institutions—the media, mass entertainment, the elite universities and the education system—are dominated by an elite made hostile or indifferent to White interests by leftist ideology and minority, mainly Jewish, competition. That domination is due partly to ownership and partly to activism. There is also an organisational dimension, with powerful agencies, mostly Jewish funded and led, using marketing and psychological warfare to thwart white advocates. The attack has two tactical goals, first to combat attempts to conceptualize white interests, and second to prevent the dissemination of such ideas that do arise.

The first attack has failed but not without a fight. As the recent article in thOrange County Registestates, MacDonald is recognised as a major threat by the ADL and the $PLC. Peter Brimelow’s is condemned as a “hate group”. Jared Taylor is called a “white supremacist” and his meetings terrorized. Philippe Rushton, the hero of race realism, is mocked in death as in life. Of course. There are wounds to show but the truth has, at last, been forged into a working prototype. It only needs mass production and distribution to galvanise the American people.

That is heartening news for white advocates, and something of which they should be proud. The next critical step is dissemination. The enemy can be expected to oppose the spread of the new white consciousness with every asset at their disposal because they know it to be a necessary condition, and sometimes a sufficient one, for an ethnic group to begin acting as a solidary unit and strain against its chains. And since white America is caged by concepts or their absence—she is still too powerful to be coerced—dispelling lies and ignorance amounts to striking a blow for liberty. Freeing America of her conceptual chains is the vital and noble mission for white ethnic activists. That is the phase of the cultural war in which we are now engaged. The stakes are high, nothing less than possession of North America and, in the longer term, the retention of homelands for Western peoples in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and South America.

What might get the assembly line running?

The two sets of theories about how that could happen rely on passive and active change. The passive changes are the stuff of romantic imagining but not altogether implausible as facilitating preconditions. Israel will drag America into one war too many and reaction will set in. As Blacks and Hispanics grow in number and white taxpayers decline, government debt will explode (even more). When social welfare breaks down the underclass will burn the cities or make them ungovernable. Whites will finally rebel against affirmative action and paying non-white welfare. The economy will collapse. And so on.

The problem with disaster scenarios, no matter how realistic, is that they assume political movements. Like elaborate economic theories they assume that the sinews of collective action will materialize.

That is where theories of active change are more credible. The Great Man theory of history still makes sense, though we should also hope for Great Women. It is not difficult to imagine a famous or powerful figure having a conversion experience and throwing his weight behind the White advocacy movement. Would $100 million help? Yes it would. Would the backing of a modest media empire help? Yes. Or endorsements from a movie star?Assemblages of betas would also be influential. A circle of academics or congressmen see the light and fight the fight. A circle of academics or congressmen see the light and fight the fight. Or a group of business people provide an annual cash flow of $1 million. Or a charismatic union leader emerges who really defends his members’ interests by opposing Third World immigration.

I believe that heroes will step forward to bear the torch higher. But that can only happen if the ideas of Western interests and liberty, developed at such cost, are kept alive and ever improved. That is the sacred mission of the present generation of leaders and activists.

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176 Comments to "Stages of Developing a White Advocacy Movement"

  1. October 22, 2012 - 5:14 pm | Permalink


    I hadn’t heard of him, but I went and read an article by him in TOQ:

    “Today’s text books are sinkholes of anti-white rhetoric, and white parents are totally at liberty to denounce these texts in a white-centric way, thus educating other white parents about how to talk in public in a white voice about white-centric issues.”

    If whites would go to PTA meetings and speak out about the anti-white textbooks, that would be great.

    Of course what will happen is that the anti-whites present will angrily sneer at you that the textbooks reflect the reality that whites have contributed little to the world except the commission of horrible crimes against other peoples.

    That’s when you have a choice of doing two things.
    1. Argue the issue.
    2. Reply, “You’re an anti-white who spreads that belief because it aids your program of genocide against whites. You teach that belief to white children so that they’ll accept your flooding ALL white countries and ONLY white countries with non-whites, and will accept being forced by law to integrate with the non-whites so as to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence.”

    We call option #1 “tailgating,” because it follows the anti-whites into exactly where they want you to go, their own territory that they have already strongly fortified with their own memes and phrases, where they make you defend yourself against their charge that you are an evil white racist!

    Instead, make them defend themselves against your charge that they are evil anti-whites who are carrying out a program of white genocide!

    I mean really, what are you going to do under option #1 when, after you point out that that every technical device that’s being used in the meeting and every mode of transportation that was used to arrive at the meeting was invented by whites, some anti-white repeats Susan Sontag’s statement that whatever contributions whites have made to the world don’t come close to canceling out the crimes that whites have committed?

    Your arguments may influence a few whites who have taken a basic world history course and can recognize your statements as being truths that had simply never occurred to them, and other whites who don’t have the knowledge to judge may have their sense of being white invigorated by your standing up for whites…you will likely do some good, but not nearly as much good as you will do in the long run with option #2.

    Option #2 has a gestation period of unknown length, and when it finally ceases just giving occasional kicks and arrives squalling into the world, all our other concerns will be viewed from its perspective and attended to.

  2. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 22, 2012 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty: Bo Sears, is also one person that is greatl aware of how the left uses language to denigrate European Americans.

  3. October 22, 2012 - 1:38 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I had a similar thought, and I should have written “protected groups” in bold.

    I try to keep in mind when posting here and on other white sites that we’re posting not only to ourselves, but also to visiting whites who may be reachable.

  4. October 22, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Anti-whites are instinctive masters of language, because they’ve been trained in extremely effective anti-white memes and phrases since kindergarten. (Of course, they are likely to regard all the sludge they repeat as incisive ideas arrived at by their own independent intellects).

    In contrast, pro-whites are almost completely clueless about language. As I wrote above, the only person in the white movement I know of whose professional career was in large part that of an effective propagandist is Bob Whitaker. The rest of us are all amateurs and we haven’t even recognized that fact.

  5. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 22, 2012 - 11:53 am | Permalink

    If we are serious about developing a movement it is interesting to note how the opposition does it, inch by inch. The following quote is the opening line in an editorial which pretends to object to the pro-homosexual activity in Australian schools.

    Nobody in this day and age could possibly condone homophobia or any form of discrimination or hate speech towards people just because of their sexuality

    Really? Not even if their sexuality is pedophilia or sadism or directed toward the dead? What if they can only find satisfaction in violent rape? It is absurd on the surface yet that is what passes for reasoned debate today. The overwhelming number of young white people will nod sagely at this sentence.


  6. October 22, 2012 - 11:34 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    To extend Jason’s reply to you, we might respond to someone who’s asked “so what?”,

    “If all African countries were being flooded with non-Africans and Africans forced by law to integrate with the non-Africans so as to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence, what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to that?

    Only a white like yourself who’s an anti-white sociopath would support the genocide of whites!

    Our responses hinge on the fundamental contradiction of PC, which is that PC is a concoction developed for whites only and developed for the genocide of whites.

  7. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 22, 2012 - 9:43 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    Best line in your link: Hate speech against protected groups will be banned. All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others. Chilling!

  8. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 22, 2012 - 9:19 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    I guess if you would use the “genocide” argument with such people you would be answered with an indifferent : “So what?”

    Yes, and that is what Bob Whitaker refers to as the “Sociopath’s Question”. Only sociopaths don’t have normal concern for their families or their extended families (ethnicity and race). They are the ones who say, “why should I care, I’ll be dead anyway”.

  9. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 22, 2012 - 9:12 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    This indicates the degree of suicidal ethnomasochism the brainwashing after WWII has caused in these people. I guess if you would use the “genocide” argument with such people you would be answered with an indifferent : “So what?”

  10. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 22, 2012 - 7:46 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    By the way, advocating genocide normally gets you jail time Germany. But notice this group of 300 is able to march freely and proudly advocate genocide for Germans, and we all know they won’t have the slightest legal trouble.

  11. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 22, 2012 - 7:12 am | Permalink

    Well a group referred to as Leftwing in Germany is openly calling for Germany and it’s people to be destroyed. Forever destroyed. They quite literally used the word ‘genocide’. The banners say:

    The banner at the bottom simply reads “No love for a Germany”. The top one is “We love genocide: for something better than the nation”.

    They want their own “Volkstod” – the death of the German people.

  12. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 22, 2012 - 5:03 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Jews lived in Europe in their ghettos out of their free will most of the time. They were middle class most of the time. Many Jews look back at the time of the Shtetl with nostalgia. So much for the myth of permanent persecution.

  13. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 22, 2012 - 2:44 am | Permalink

    On the issue of how Jews have been treated by Whites, remember, Jews have been treated better than we are led to believe. After all, Jews were allowed to exist. Compare that to other religious groups that were considered heretical in Europe for centuries.

    Muslims were not allowed to have safe areas inside Christian Europe (at least for the most part – yes I know there were exceptions). But Jews were.

    In the 30 Years War, Protestants and Catholics killed each other and brought devastation in Germany and Europe to such an extent, that the population was reduced by 25% to 40%.

    Reflect on that. The White Christians were much more vicious to each other than they were to the Jews. This knowledge should be integrated into any White Advocacy movement.

  14. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 22, 2012 - 2:33 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    That video “How Whites Took Over America” was banned, while all kinds of “N*zi” material is allowed to run free on YouTube. That gives you some idea how much the other side fears it. Guys dressing up in N*zi costumes and stomping around the street do not scare the elites – they love it. It feeds the narrative they like to put out.

    Even David Duke’s channel has never been messed with. All his talk of Jewish Supremacism doesn’t get banned. But an EFFECTIVE message that gets around all the old barriers that Anti-Whites put up does bother them.

  15. October 21, 2012 - 8:03 pm | Permalink
  16. October 21, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    The things people in the white-o-sphere know about! Lol!

    That was amazing, and I thank you so much! Now I can link that whenever I use the Winstons jingle.

    We had our own very good cartoon….TOO had it in its home page video spot for awhile…that was getting over ten thousand views a day on youtube.

    Somewhere I think between 100,000 and 200,000 views youtube took it down, notifying us that it was “hate speech,” which even by Church of PC standards is absurd.

    It’s been allowed to reappear, now that it’s lost its momentum:

    How Whites Took Over America

    ADL, YouTube launch partnership to fight video abuse

    The Anti-Defamation League announced Sunday its recent expansion into the world of YouTube, the on-line video-sharing site. The US-based advocacy group has officially partnered with the digital media powerhouse in an effort to combat hate speech and other forms of abuse…the organization has already made a place for itself in YouTube’s new “Abuse and Safety Center,” where users are given advice directly from the ADL on how to confront hate speech…YouTube’s community guidelines define hate speech as “content that promotes hatred against members of a protected group”

    The mass of whites in this country have no freaking idea of what’s going on!

    If you who read this are just visiting here and are white but not pro-white, please watch our little satirical cartoon linked above (I promise that you will be entertained!) and see if you find ANYthing in it that is REMOTELY “hate speech.”

    It was taken down because it is EFFECTIVE speech that satirically lays bare the anti-whites’ program of white genocide! (It does! Watch it!)

  17. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    October 21, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Fred Flintstone shills for Winston

  18. October 21, 2012 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I don’t recall any “padding” in any of the podcasts in Beefcake’s Bootcamp, so maybe you’re referring to the repetition that’s our stock in trade.

    It’s all as simple as the jingle, “Winstons taste good like a cigarette should,” which shot Winstons to the top of cigarette sales in the 1950s.

    That fact may be all one needs to know about the human mind to be an effective propagandist.

    Our jingle is, “Winstons taste bad like the worse cigarette you ever had.”

    A winner in my opinion, but the market will be the judge.

  19. October 21, 2012 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    With the next one million dollar donation the white movement receives we will hire a top notch successful public relations firm to develop an effective pro-white message and disseminate it.

    We seem to not realize that we’re completely untrained amateurs trying to solve a problem in an area that for decades has had a highly developed profession entirely devoted to it.

    At least let’s begin to understand that we are trying to solve a problem in a field about which we know very close to NOTHING.

    In all the white movement, the only person I know of whose professional career was in large part that of an effective propagandist is Bob Whitaker.

  20. Richard Pierce's Gravatar Richard Pierce
    October 21, 2012 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Don’t worrk about Jason Speaks, he is the resident concern troll. He is here to police thought and speech; espcially, any criticism of the crimes of Jews and Israel he will attack as some sort of “distraction” from the real issues.

    He also consistently brings up “UFOs” whenever anyone talks about things Israel has actually done. He even uses the typical Jewish tactic of misspelling/misprounouncing words when he is called out for his hasbara (“hasberry” “troofer” etc.)

    Eventually he starts to grow on you, he’s a real trouper for his side. You have to admire his consistency.

  21. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    October 21, 2012 - 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Charles Dodgson: “It is the dissemination, not the conceptualization, of White consciousness that is stalled at an early phase”

    The dissemination and the conceptualization work together. It isn’t clear if we make up our minds before we speak up, or if speaking up helps us make up our minds. An idea is conceptualized by being aired, articulated, and disseminated through the media. The problem is that the Jews own the media.

    In the recent past, everyone used to be aware of White interests. Then, freedom of speech became restricted, and now, White people behave as if they are no longer aware of their collective racial interests. People still have the right instincts, but as long as they cannot speak up freely and hear other smart people speak up freely about race replacement issues, they cannot elaborate full opinions and take action.

    “While the idea phase is well advanced conceptually, it is weak institutionally.”

    We are making some headway in popular opinion. Hopefully, we’ll soon be back to what people used to think in the 1920s. Ideally, we should go back to how our ancestors thought 3000 years ago.

    We don’t need elaborate ideas. We simply need freedom of speech (as in the bronze age), so that people’s natural instincts and common sense will lead them to explicitly recognize the current government as their mortal enemy.

    Along with freedom of speech, we also need truthful information, especially about Jewish activism and the rate of race-replacement. And in fact, it seems to me that the work of Kmac and Frank Slater is more about spreading information than about creating new ideas, even if they do both.

    “In Europe and America elements of the elite threw in their lot with the peasants and industrial workers, including aristocrats and army officers in Europe and the wealthy individuals and politicians in America. The elite put class interests aside for the purpose of building a nation”

    I agree that the elite does not blindly follow its financial interests, no matter what Karl Marx said. Ideas and genetic interests are more powerful than financial interests. But in the 19th century, the money elites also had a financial interest in achieving political independence for their peoples. After independence, or after political unity had been achieved in a country, the new national government would proceed to defend the financial interests of the capitalist elites, as well as the interests of the whole nation.

    Today, the White upper class and capital owners still have a financial interest in trying to reverse the government’s race-replacement policy. Logically, for their own good, they should finance the White Nationalist movement. What keeps them from doing so is the intimidation and the brainwashing. The elites should set the example, but maybe it is harder to be a rebel if you are a public figure deeply immersed in public networks. In fact, our institutional elites are not real elites. They have been co-opted.

    “The problem with disaster scenarios, no matter how realistic, is that they assume political movements.”

    Not necessarily. Even if there is no pro-White political movement, the naive enthusiasm of White idealists in favor of racial integration is going to wane as White people become targets of aggression.

    “That is where theories of active change are more credible.”

    What we call passive change, that is to say, the new environment brought about by the crumbling of Western society, is really the result of Jewish activism. The emergence of more and more White activists is itself a result of the destruction of White society. As White society is progressively destroyed by Jews, there is more and more pressure for White people to become anti-Jewish and anti-replacement activists. So, it can be said that passive change propels active change.

  22. David Berkowitz Worshiper's Gravatar David Berkowitz Worshiper
    October 21, 2012 - 11:15 am | Permalink


    It is you who is blowing the JFK thing all out of proportion here. My original post uptopic consisted of about 16 paragraphs, only two of which dealt with the JFK issue.

    I don’t read every article posted to this website and only occasionally post a comment. (As an aside, there seem to be a number of other individuals using the name Rob or Bob – maybe a good reason for me to indeed adopt another screen name.)

    Yet I have to wonder how an individual such as yourself can possible accuse others of wasting time on unimportant subjects, when I see your name prominently displayed on virtually every article’s comments section – unless you’re now going to claim that there are a number of other individuals using the name Jason Speaks.
    In addition to the JFK assassination, do you feel that you are also an expert on everything else? You must be quite a fascinating individual.

  23. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 21, 2012 - 8:24 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    Thanks. It did eventually download. I am not a talk radio sort of person and have little patience for all of the padding. I do appreciate the trouble you went to on my behalf. I hope others profit from it as well.

  24. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 21, 2012 - 8:13 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    I certainly agree that righteous indignation is the proper response. I can see how the term genocide will work with those who have long honored those who are most victimized. It is also the most succinct argument I have heard.

    It can be reached in other ways. One of my favorites is that our entire elite tells us repeatedly that we cannot deport millions of people. What they mean is we may not. Politicians have been claiming that we NEED immigration reform, but they dare not bring it up for a vote because the people will never agree to the terms they want. My current favorite meme (never thought I would use that word!) is ‘ I am not a democrat. I am not a republican. I am an American and I want my country back. Very few dare ask “Back from whom?”

    You are doing very good, effective work. If nothing else it is amazingly effective at provoking really hateful responses that show some true colors. It is not the only route forward, however.

  25. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 21, 2012 - 5:45 am | Permalink

    @David Berkowitz Worshiper:

    This site is supposed to be about White interests and White people. There are so many forums based on JFK conspiracy stuff, literally an entire industry. I just heard an AM radio show that comes on before coast-to-coast, and it dealt with 911 theories, UFOs, JFK coverups, and apparently a plot to turn us all into zombies via fungal infections (I kid you not).

    Now if any of that was remotely a threat to the elites, do ya think it would be broadcast over several hundred stations to millions of people? This is time wasting. It capitalizes on the sense of unease many Whites have, but directs it toward something harmless. We have enormous amounts of publicly available information about a REAL problem that impacts Whites all over the world, but this directs attention to intellectual cul-de-sacs.

    But whatever the validity, there are oceans of books, movies, TV shows and internet sites about all these conspiracy theories. They’ve been around for 50 years on prime time TV. Can’t we all focus on something a little more productive here on this site?

  26. David Berkowitz Worshiper's Gravatar David Berkowitz Worshiper
    October 21, 2012 - 1:56 am | Permalink

    Hi, this is Rob, from uptopic,

    Jason ridicules me for having had an interest in and having read books on the JFK assassination, while at the same time claiming that Piper’s Final Judgement is “poorly researched”.

    His position doesn’t make any sense.

    If he feels qualified to make such a determination regarding Piper’s book, it can only mean that he himself has done considerable reading on the subject, even more than me or most others, perhaps even more than Piper, all of which would tend to considerably neuter his ridicule of me.

    Therefore, since reading about the JFK killing seems to automatically label me a Kennedy Worshiper, and since I’ve read a book about the Son of Sam killings, it stands to reason that I’m justified in adopting this new nickname.

  27. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 21, 2012 - 1:44 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    Did you send me a msg over on SF? I haven’t gotten it.

    Yes, the population thing is false. Basically, the Anti-Whites spin all kinds of reasons why non-Whites must be flooded into White countries, to be followed by forced assimilation (against the Whites).

    The justifications change over time and by country. It’s basically whatever they can get away with in a given moment. The need for “diversity”, for example (although 100% black, Asian and Arab countries need no diversity).

    In the US, they will say we have to accept non-Whites because we are a nation of immigrants. In Ireland they are pushing them to accept blacks and Muslims because they are a nation of emigrants! They literally tell the Irish that since they emigrated long ago, they have a special obligation to accept anyone (non-White).

    They tell Germans they have to make up for their history and accept non-Whites. They tell Norway they have to accept non-Whites because it’s so unfair they’ve always had such a high standard of living.

    The excuses vary, but the underlying thrust remains the same:

    White countries and ONLY White countries MUST accept massive non-White influxes, and then be forced to assimilate with them.

  28. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 21, 2012 - 1:26 am | Permalink


    The nebulous nature of the “genocide” conspiracy also seems to pass uncriticized by those who go into high dudgeon when more elaborated conspiracies are offered …

    I haven’t heard anyone on our side describe White Genocide as a “conspiracy”. I don’t and it shouldn’t be described that way (especially if that requires ferreting out deep symbols and secret meetings of this-or-that group).

    The whole point is that everything about it is quite open. The facts that support it are publicly available. It is true that Orwellian codewords are used ( for example, “diversity” just means less White people – no one is trying to bring diversity to Detroit, Mexico, or Japan – they are already fully diverse (i.e. no White people). But that is not a conspiracy.

    It just requires looking at all the massive, publicly available data and statements, and seeing through the use of superficial codewords. But I guess that isn’t as cool as plumbing the Deep Innards of the Spooky Robed Men Who Meet in Private.

  29. October 21, 2012 - 1:20 am | Permalink

    And that Mexican village certainly wasn’t crowded…there were houses empty and I was invited to live for free in a particular one whenever I returned.

    The village was in an area with some very attractive small towns, and they weren’t crowded either.

  30. October 21, 2012 - 1:16 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    “Mexico isn’t that much more crowded than the US.”

    An out of the way village I stayed in a few summers ago I believe had land that had previously been cultivated being not cultivated because so many men were up here. I was told that most of the men much preferred working in the U.S. to farming in their village.
    @ Alice: my response to your request has links and is awaiting moderation.

  31. October 21, 2012 - 1:10 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    “When i tried to download the recommended podcast it took forever. Is there something one can read?”

    Nuts. My computer isn’t very fast, but it downloaded for me immediately. I’m at a loss.

    On our working thread, you could click on some of the recent links to our posts in the mainstream to see what we actually do…that’s what I did when I stumbled across the site a year ago…I posted with them for a couple of days, imitating them to some extent and receiving corrections, before someone informed me there was a Mantra they were working from!
    Here’s the working thread:
    There seems to be a lively discussion going on at the moment about mini-mantras…that should be informative:
    The “are you new to bugs” thread is good:
    Here’s the holy of holies, the Mantra:
    On most pages there is a tab, “forum,” which if you click on, has a list of many threads that could be explored.

    Hey, but for some real fun (I really mean it), read these first short blogs of Bob back from eight years ago:
    I think he wrote his very first blog just for you, Alice…the next to the last line! Lol! :)
    There’s only his first two blogs on that page, but you can click on “newer entries,” or just replace “184” with “183” as the page number in the URL. I’ve only read back a few pages, but want to read a lot more. It may or may not be your cup of tea, but give it a shot. Bob is a unique talent, that much is for sure.

    I’m real disappointed about the podcasts, but I’m a computer idiot and haven’t a clue what to suggest.

    If you get interested and/or have any questions or whatever…more hints about the site…I can be PM’d at Harumphty Dumpty on Stormfront.

  32. October 21, 2012 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    “Sometimes, you guys need to lighten up a little.”

    But that WAS my idea of humor! Seriously! Uh, I mean humorously.

  33. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 11:10 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    That’s an interesting point on the victim thing, which I brought up another blog. I think Whites (normal Whites) do resist thinking of themselves as victims. They don’t wallow in self-pity.

    But what if, objectively, we are being victimized? Maybe ‘victim’ isn’t the best term. I don’t want to encourage some defeatist outlook. What I would want to inspire is a feeling of righteous indignation. The feeling that we have been trespassed upon and that we should take corrective measures.

    I think there is a kind of false pride that can get in the way of seeing things clearly. It goes along the lines of saying we can’t be a victim. But surely we can.

  34. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 11:01 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Yes, the quality of life for non-Whites improves immediately upon being near Whites. We are the ultimate natural resource. Now, I’ve heard it said that by letting people out of Third World countries and bringing them to White countries, it relieves dangerous political pressures and makes things easier for elites to manage things.

    But I don’t believe it anymore. Elites seem pretty capable of ignoring vast populations for ages. Oceans of poverty stricken Indians didn’t represent any threat to the White world for centuries, nor did the huge mass of Chinese all crowded together.

  35. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 11:01 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    I may not see it entirely your way – but results are what should be judged, not intentions. Never the less, I certainly see the value of framing it as you do. I was not reared to see myself as a victim but it seems to be the only moral value the young still accept.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      October 22, 2012 - 11:01 am | Permalink

      I think we both agree on most issues as we are on the same web site. KMD deserves a lot of credit for speaking the truth.

  36. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 10:57 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Jason, I also agree that it is entirely illogical – what else could cause us to behave in such foolish ways? I think it is an unacknowledged acceptance of the concept, in direct contradiction of multiculturalism, that our way of life is the only really acceptable one. It would be cruel to condemn anyone to a lessor life. Take the justification for the Dream Act – those kids have already benefited by free healthcare and education, yet everyone acts as if sending them back to their own country would be unspeakably cruel, no one ever says why.

  37. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 10:52 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I think what many anti-Mantra pro-Whites (AMPWs) don’t believe is that Whites are being targeted everywhere they live on earth. Enormous resources are expended to make sure Whites do not get an all-White living space anywhere on this planet. There is already great pressure for Eastern Europe to “open up” to mass non-White immigration, despite being relatively poor. The ADL is raising funds to move blacks into an all-White area of Idaho. The examples, of course, are legion.

    And they are being targeted as Whites first and foremost. Not as Christians, or for our “culture” but for being White. The other side has made it pretty clear that we are all Evil in their mind. Yes, they hate White Christians. But they are eager to wipe out very secular Scandinavian countries as well.

    So, maybe the first issue is, are Whites being targeted, as Whites, all over the world? I don’t mean lined up and shot (at the moment), I mean is there a worldwide, concerted effort to pressure every single White community, and only White communities, to be swamped with non-Whites?

    I think the answer is yes, but that is probably the point of contention.

  38. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 10:49 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    I confess to being out on a bit of a limb here. I have no proof, and I agree that it does not come up in conversation but I have long thought that the real reason we do things is very different from the announced ones. It is more than sheer person per sq mile, it is quality of life. It need not divide us.

  39. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 10:36 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I never really hear anyone make the overcrowding argument. Least of all immigrants. Now, I know it has been thrown out there as one of a million reasons for allowing mass immigration, but it’s purely illogical.
    I think we should clear that one up, because I believe it is a misconception. I never hear people in Muslim countries argue that they are just too crowded and therefore need to move to Berlin.

    Certainly India and China have a lot of people, but that isn’t where we get most of our non-White immigrants. Mexico isn’t that much more crowded than the US. And virtually all of the non-Whites who move to White countries, live in the most crowded urban centers available. They show no desire to live in the under populated countryside.

  40. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 10:16 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    For reason’s which elude me every time I try to go to the Bugs site things go awry. When i tried to download the recommended podcast it took forever. Is there something one can read?

  41. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 10:07 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    I cannot rule it out. The Muslim countries have lower density because they are deserts. I agree that it is not the only surface reason, but I think it is why we allow it.

    Your larger point, which is that we must have a conversation about what we owe to other people and what we have a moral duty to protect and defend, is vitally important. The mantra does not resonate with me, perhaps a function of age, but it clearly does with lots of people. The more conversations we have the better we will be.

  42. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 9:43 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    The real demand is for us to permit the crowded places on earth to dump their excess people here. Very short term solution. It does seem that it will result in our demise in the near future.

    But it isn’t a matter of other nations relieving overcrowding by dumping people here. That isn’t why we have White countries being flooded with non-Whites. For example, the Japanese have a much higher population density than we do, but they aren’t flooding us.

    The Netherlands has a high population density, but there are demands they take people from Muslim countries which have much lower population densities. The Netherlands has a population density of over 1,200 per square mile. Egypt has a population density of only 215. But guess which way the population flows!

  43. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 9:30 pm | Permalink


    The Chinese administration flooding Tibet with Han also fails to qualify as genocide, which in my lexicon equates to killing, not competing.

    But we aren’t using your homebrewed definition. We are using the legal definition as agreed upon by The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide 1948.

    Such things matter. You may not call what is happening to Tibet genocide, but the rest of the world does. This is the legal framework we live under. You may not choose to call driving 95 mph speeding, but the law disagrees.

    What we are seeing is not mere competition between races.

  44. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 9:18 pm | Permalink

    I share your aversion to the term in any circumstances. The sad and simple truth is that for far too many of our people it is the only language which they hear or understand. I am not a purist. I am not quite ready for book burning but there is little I will scorn in an effort to break the hold our masters have on our ability to think.

    The indisputable truth is that in an effort to have a decent quality of life we have limited our numbers. The real demand is for us to permit the crowded places on earth to dump their excess people here. Very short term solution. It does seem that it will result in our demise in the near future.

  45. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 20, 2012 - 8:30 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Ave Maria is a comfort to believers, but not a tool for proselytizing, in other words.

  46. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 20, 2012 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Let me offer a more cynical view. Jared Taylor, in my view, was correct, but excessively charitable in disregarding the use of “genocide” in the context of white disempowerment. The Chinese administration flooding Tibet with Han also fails to qualify as genocide, which in my lexicon equates to killing, not competing.

    Jews interned in concentration camps in WWII doesn’t qualify as genocide, either, even though many did die, whilst interned. Now, if there were indeed gas-chambers or dead bodies with bullet wounds, then that could come under the genocide rubric.

    Using hyperbole is dangerous, if credibility is what is desired. Disenfranchisement is less sexy, to be sure. (The nebulous nature of the “genocide” conspiracy also seems to pass uncriticized by those who go into high dudgeon when more elaborated conspiracies are offered, with facts to back the arguments). It’s nebulosity could just as easily turn out to be a catch point, rather than a catalyst.

  47. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 20, 2012 - 7:34 pm | Permalink

    @Alexander: Correct, except that there’s no more Jewish economics than there is physics. Krugman, is wrong because he’s wrong, not because he’s Jewish. Ditto Friedman.

  48. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 3:22 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    Just when we were getting along so well! I enjoy recommendations, not commands. Sometimes, you guys need to lighten up a little. Yes it is serious business, but I am among those who object to being dictated to. Different strokes…..

  49. October 20, 2012 - 3:15 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    “I am no more interested in having my thinking, reading, and actions dictated by Bob Whitaker than the current masters.”

    A few days in Beefcake’s Bootcamp will take care of that, Alice!
    “Anti-whites are carrying out a program of White Genocide, YES SIR!”

  50. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    October 20, 2012 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    if a nation is homogeneous, the birth rate problem takes care of itself. In time, it corrects.

    No it doesn’t. In Hungary there used to be a very small Gypsy minority (less than 1%) a hundred years ago. Since then, there has been no great immigration, and what there was, was mainly ethnic Hungarians fleeing in from neighboring countries. Yet Hungary now has a roughly 5-10% Gypsy minority. (I’m using the lower estimates, some people think they are already over 20% – I’m not buying it, and the lower numbers still prove my points.) Hungarian TFR is maybe 1.3, without Gypsies it would probably be around 1.0. This means that with the low birth rates we are losing our country even in the absence of large-scale immigration.

    Now Jews (and their liberal minions) in Hungary cannot advocate large-scale immigration – who in his right mind would come to poor and half-bankrupt Hungary when they can go to Germany or Austria or the UK etc. Hungary’s population (including Gypsies) are actually emigrating from the country because of the constantly deteriorating economic situation.

    Yet it’s impossible to fight that, because the mainstream media will attack (much less so under the present government, more so before 2010) anybody who advocates higher birthrates, especially if you mention that you only want those higher birthrates for White Hungarians and not for Gypsies, who already have too high birthrates. But even promoting higher birthrates in a race-blind way is almost impossible.

    And the strange thing is, pensioners (especially if they are childless) are good allies against any national idea, or against promoting higher birthrates, because their only concern is higher pensions, and they reject the idea that it’s present taxpayers who provide for them. They insist that they already paid for it (well, certainly much less). If you want to see a totally bankrupt and collapsing society, come to Hungary. Budapest and the bigger cities still have some life, but villages are slowly dying, first Gypsies move in, then, after nothing’s left, they leave too.

  51. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 20, 2012 - 1:57 pm | Permalink

    @norman S:

    Even more reason to become a college educated whiner. LOL.

  52. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 1:36 pm | Permalink

    I, for one, thanks you for both your amazing resourcefulness and generosity. While I think that the genocide mantra has great potential and has had real success, I am no more interested in having my thinking, reading, and actions dictated by Bob Whitaker than the current masters.

  53. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 20, 2012 - 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, I do my best.

  54. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 20, 2012 - 12:57 pm | Permalink


    All nonwhites and their opinions of whites are irrelevant. It is long past due that we cease to take into consideration their desires and frustrations.

    I would say that non-whites should be heard as long as they accept that whites will separate from non-whites in our own respective sovereign communities/nations. This is not debatable. It is only a question of how we go about it. It can be done smoothly or not so smoothly.

    However, If non-whites want to voice their tired old blame whitey opinions then they should treated as the contemptuous and worthless dregs that they are.

  55. ArturoPendriago's Gravatar ArturoPendriago
    October 20, 2012 - 12:26 pm | Permalink

    All nonwhites and their opinions of whites are irrelevant. It is long past due that we cease to take into consideration their desires and frustrations.

  56. ArturoPendriago's Gravatar ArturoPendriago
    October 20, 2012 - 12:22 pm | Permalink

    A very effective next stage would be to develop our own television channel. Blacks and Hispanics have it. It is high time for our own, especially the further we become minorities in our own countries.

    European American Television or some such.

    Topics can include:

    European and/or American inventions
    Political Systems
    Art History
    Economic Systems
    Fairy Tales and their underlying meanings
    Environmental Preservation
    HBD between European peoples
    History of European religions, including xtianity, paganism (Roman, Greek, Celtic, Norse and Teutonic), gnosticism, etc.
    Beauty contests with all fully European women
    European Music (Classical, Folk and others)

    …and anything else we can think of.

  57. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 20, 2012 - 10:34 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    If you set up a coffee shop and state it is for “Whites only”, the federal government will send men with machine guns to FORCE you to do business with non-Whites. That happened over 40 years ago. We have all just gotten so use to these bully tactics and use of force, we don’t even find it odd anymore.

    It’s crazy. The US was built on freedom and here it is the very most basic freedom is missing . That being the freedom to associate with those of ones own choosing.
    It is so obviously FORCED integration that anyone who would argue otherwise is not all there. Americans have gone mad when they call themselves a free people.
    Free to be “demographically changed” maybe.

    • norman sanden's Gravatar norman sanden
      October 20, 2012 - 1:38 pm | Permalink

      rand paul made this point on madows show about the civil rights law and he is right’ but most neighborhoods are segregated by income and defacto by race. forced intergration is as wrong as forced segregation . I doubt you personally are being forced to live with blacks. Also the idea that blacks are bad and whites are good has not heard thomas sowell or watched jerry springer. its class not race

  58. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 20, 2012 - 9:53 am | Permalink

    @Noble Lord:

    I am not a “multiculturalist”

    If you are not a multi-culti then please let’s get started as soon as possible to re-segregate. The jew mixed us all up in the multi-culti madness but now it is closing time and it’s time to go back to the places we are from. It’s time to go back home to our roots and to the people who are our own, as nature had/has intended.
    Problem solved.

  59. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 20, 2012 - 9:43 am | Permalink

    @Noble Lord:

    Tell you what. Let’s agree to making an arrangement for you and all your bros and sistahs to go to your nice chunk of real estate and we whites will have ours.
    We whites will leave you alone as good neighbors with strong fences. You do the same.
    This way you will not have to worry about sniping and whining about whitey and empires and how bad whitey is and we whites won’t have to put up with you blacks and all of your charms. And this way, the jew won’t be able to play the games either.
    That’s the only solution.
    I have a dream, and that dream is that I don’t have to hear a black bitchin’ ever again.

  60. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 9:43 am | Permalink

    @norman S:

    By ‘forced’, I mean that as a practical reality, it is virtually impossible to set up an explicitly all White town. Or an all White school, or neighborhood or business.

    If you set up a coffee shop and state it is for “Whites only”, the federal government will send men with machine guns to FORCE you to do business with non-Whites. That happened over 40 years ago. We have all just gotten so use to these bully tactics and use of force, we don’t even find it odd anymore.

    But that is force. That is forced assimilation. Yes, you can go run off into the woods, give up having a career or a business, just fish and hunt all by yourself, and avoid some of the force the Anti-Whites use, but then, someone could run off to Siberia in the old USSR if they wanted to.

    But in a serious, practical sense, legal force is used to MAKE Whites integrate and assimilate with non-Whites all the time.

  61. norman S's Gravatar norman S
    October 20, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    @Tom: It doesn’t hurt that 97% of the MSM is owned by Jews

  62. Noble Lord's Gravatar Noble Lord
    October 20, 2012 - 3:58 am | Permalink

    @John hearns:


    I am not a “multiculturalist”, but when the Jew convinced the Caucasian that Empire/Globalisation was a good thing, HE became the multiculturalist and forced it upon everyone, now it is what it is!

    Trains, planes and automobiles take you anywhere and if you prefer to sit on the couch with your six pack, a Jew beams his world view in your space and THAT is what you are pissed off about!

    As i’ve said before, YOU and your ideology cannot defeat the adversary, you make it easy for him.

    I suspect you are aware of this, but sniping, whining, race baiting etc is fun,or pays

  63. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    October 20, 2012 - 3:49 am | Permalink

    @ Alice Teller. Alice, you wrote, “Find the intellectual silliness in every group which results when we try to adhere to it. We must all attack the system to the people we know, where we live, in any way we can. It can be really funny to simply ask someone why something is good or bad. It is breathtaking how few have sensible answers.”

    I don’t know if you realize it, but you just laid out the kind of thinking called “mantra thinking”!

    “Find the intellectual silliness…” Indeed!

    Now Alice, the next step is to get out there and “kill” that silliness in all of its perverse anti-White manifestations.

    You go, girl!

  64. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 20, 2012 - 3:07 am | Permalink

    @John hearns:

    Yes, good one, they call that “flipping the script” I believe and it works pretty well. Take what is happening to White countries and then change it to an Asian or African country.

    And just imagine that was happening. If the Japanese were going to be a minority in Japan in just 25 years (like we will be), they would be screaming!

  65. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 20, 2012 - 12:51 am | Permalink


    What they would say depends on whether or not they’ve spent their entire lives being brainwashed a hostile race that controls their media and academic institutions.

    That is exactly who “they” are.

    They might start to break out of their BW if they can think in terms of the Japanese and not themselves.
    It’s a strong grip they are in, it’s an uphill battle , I agree.

  66. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 20, 2012 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    @John hearns:

    “What would you expect a Japanese person to say if you could flood Japan with immigration to the point where Japanese were soon to become a minority in Japan and then you told them that this is all just a demographic change and that they are racist if they don’t accept that change? ”

    What they would say depends on whether or not they’ve spent their entire lives being brainwashed a hostile race that controls their media and academic institutions.

  67. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 11:40 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: What particular aspect of Final Judgment do find to be poorly researched? Have you actually read it?

  68. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 19, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Yes, I think pointing out that “demographic change” is an Orwellian term is a good idea.

    A mantra might go something like this …

    What would you expect a Japanese person to say if you could flood Japan with immigration to the point where Japanese were soon to become a minority in Japan and then you told them that this is all just a demographic change and that they are racist if they don’t accept that change? Would you think they were healthy or sick in their heads?

  69. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I don’t speak for “we”, only “me”. I grant people enough intelligence to read whatever they like.

  70. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 19, 2012 - 11:28 pm | Permalink

    @Noble Lord:

    You don’t have to cross an ocean to get it, so all the smart guys and gals, why is it this black dude feels the need to point you in the correct direction?

    The correct direction is that whites go here and blacks go there as nature intended.
    Integration is not possible and the definitely the wrong direction as we all know.

    Love is a wonderful power, try it.

    Yup; love your people enough to not fall for the jews program of multi-culti mix ’em all up recipe for ongoing disaster.

  71. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 19, 2012 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

    @Noble Lord:

    You don’t have to cross an ocean to get it, so all the smart guys and gals, why is it this black dude feels the need to point you in the correct direction?

    The correct direction is that whites go here and blacks go there as nature intended.
    Integration is not possible and the definitely the wrong direction as we all know.

    Love is a wonderful power, try it.

    Yup; love your people enough to not fall for the jews program of multi-culti mix ’em all up recipe for ongoing disaster.

  72. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 10:43 pm | Permalink

    @norman S:

    Jason forcing assimilation and integration is not genocide.

    This is an important point. Yes, that is part of genocide. Understand, that genocide is not confined to lining people up and shooting them. The drafter on the international law on genocide has said that violence and killing are not always present.

    This is why Tibet calls what is happening to it genocide, even though nobody is being shoved up against a wall and shot.

    The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide 1948, defines genocide: “acts committed with the intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group”

    “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.”

    It doesn’t have to be violent.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      October 20, 2012 - 9:12 am | Permalink

      It depends on what you mean by forced. Most are not forced to live in a “bad” area or forced to go to a bad school.(poor whites excluded} Most whites are still content which is why there is so much apathy about White Nationalism. If things continue the way they are going this may change and then the revolution will begin

  73. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 19, 2012 - 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Fred (“on everything” ), is witty and often funny. For example he calls the low intensity war of Blacks against Whites an “inter-pigmental conflictual situation”. He pulls no punches and is ever ready to break PC taboos.
    But don’t you think he is therefore on our side and a WN. Not only does he live in Mexico, he is also married to a Mexican woman. He highly esteems Jews and condemns “anti-Semitism” which he ascribes to jealousy of their “higher intelligence” . Nuff said.

  74. Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
    October 19, 2012 - 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Trenchant = conspiracy theories + Jewish economics.

  75. Host's Gravatar Host
    October 19, 2012 - 10:15 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Final Judgement is the most important book written on the topic. You likely have not even read it. Why are you suspiciously saying it is poorly researched?

    There is considerable interest in understanding historical and recent developments among Whites. Many are rejecting the conventional narratives offered by the mass media and the educational system. This has lead them to search for answers.

    Remarkably, Alex Jones’ Infowars is now the 433 most visited website in the United States. Jones is a sensationalist and deliberately obfuscates the Jewish role in so-called “conspiracies”. He does this for personal and financial reasons. His wife and kids are Jewish. His operation depends on revenue from Jewish advertisers and access to Jewish radio markets.

    The Infowars audience does have a large portion of younger whites. They have the ability to adopt “radical” political positions in spite of social pressure. Some are even capable of thinking independently. We would be well-served in targeting this demographic.

    The works of Michael Collins Piper and Christopher Bollyn are useful to prove that Jones’ elusive “globalists” are really organized Jewish interests. From there, it isn’t too difficult to explain that another “globalist” scheme is to destroy White people.

  76. October 19, 2012 - 9:44 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Your point is correct, and I apologize for being so easily distracted and diluting your point.

    “How about focusing White people’s attention on the GENOCIDE that is happening?”

    Yes, that’s what we should focus on!

  77. October 19, 2012 - 8:50 pm | Permalink

    I would like to say thank you to those of you that have purchased a copy of Jack’s War. Sales of my book have picked up a little bit and I would like to think that it is because of your support.
    For those of you that do not know, Jack’s War contains the complete Mantra plus a couple of mini-Mantras. The book was written for the general public, especially for those white people that need a bit of an emotional push or are already thinking of coming over to our side. Also, the book is available in Europe & England via Amazon. Use this link to order through Createspace e-books, at this link: – it’s the best place to place your order.

  78. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 19, 2012 - 8:43 pm | Permalink

    @Mike: Mike, I don’t want to be the guy with the opposite attitude, I do think Fred has some good points, but why in the hell is it, that these “patriots”, like Fred. always end up living outside the nation they are supposedly so patriotic towards. Fred, lives in good old Mexico.

  79. October 19, 2012 - 8:20 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Jason, I agree with your choice of focus of course, but I’m not sure the book is poorly researched. While I’m suspicious of anyone who cites articles in The Spotlight (I see Piper has a few such citations in his book), since I have reason to believe that Willis Carto was often willing to be loose with the truth, there seem to be some statements from impressive persons who support the book. I withhold judgment for the moment.

    Just glancing through the book last night, I was amazed to see he uses some research by A. J. Weberman! Boy, that name takes me back! In about 1969 A.J. Weberman was a guy who appeared to devote his daily life to going through Bob Dylan’s garbage and pestering Dylan constantly to return to singing lefty protest songs. Hey, that doesn’t mean he may not be a great researcher! But he seemed a bit cracked back then. Hm, the more I write, the more I wonder if you may not be a priori correct.

  80. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 7:58 pm | Permalink


    How about focusing White people’s attention on the GENOCIDE that is happening? Every time we direct people to some poorly researched conspiracy book we lose.

  81. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty: Well, I put it to you that if there’s a mass murderer on the loose with an incontrovertible record of recidivism (Operation Lavon, USS Liberty, etc.), it behoves you to study his past crimes, that you be better prepared when he knocks on your front door!

  82. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 7:50 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Have you read Final Judgment? I don’t recall it as a hagiography of JFK, nor do I have any special sympathy towards any of the Kennedys personally or their political agenda. I do find it a useful exercise for understanding present events, in the sense that the cabal who commissions the crime also manages the politics and the media spin in the aftermath of same.

    In the same way as picking the winner of the beauty contest is not about one’s personal taste, but second-guessing the public’s, my indifference to the Kennedy clique is not shared by the vast majority, who would be very interested in learning of some of the missing pieces in the JFK puzzle which Collins Piper proposes.

  83. October 19, 2012 - 7:29 pm | Permalink

    @ Richard: thank you!
    Re JFK: I can’t help being a little charmed by a guy who, announcing his appointment of his very young brother Bobby as Attorney General (which was regarded as absolutely shocking nepotism at the time), simply smiled at the gaping reporters and said, “I thought it would be good for Bobby to get a little experience before he began practicing law.” Lol! The man’s charm was not to be believed. In more ways than one I guess.

    I think the JFK’s of the world feel more connected to the ruling white elites of Mexico and other Latin American countries than they do to the ordinary white people of their own countries. They could care less if they aid in the genocide of the whites in their own countries and end up ruling over a brown population like so many of their Latin American counterparts.

    When we’re bugsering in the mainstream, white anti-whites often tell us that they can’t be anti-white, because they’re white themselves!

    We simply tell them that there’s a very standard English word for what they are: TRAITOR.

    It makes me sad to say it, because I still retain some fondness for JFK, but by helping to usher in the age of integration, which is one of the two components of white genocide, our history will remember him properly as an anti-white TRAITOR.

    We’re in a war for survival, and sentiment has to be kept within its proper bounds.

  84. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 6:28 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns:

    Yes, I think pointing out that “demographic change” is an Orwellian term is a good idea. They have all these euphemisms for genocide. “Demographic change”, “population shift”, “melting pot”, etc.

    This is a mini-Mantra I find useful in talking about that point, when someone claims it’s just a little ‘ol population shift:

    You seem to be still living in the 1800s. Population movements are natural. But specific POLICIES supported by you anti-Whites to flood all White countries with other races and assimilate them are not natural – it’s genocide.

    No one is flooding any non-White countries with millions of foreigners, force-assimilating them, then screaming “Racist” to anyone who opposes that genocide.

    This ONLY happens in White countries.

  85. Bear's Gravatar Bear
    October 19, 2012 - 6:27 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: No doubt about it, Romney is a member of the liberal elite. There is no difference between him and Obama. Both will produce the same result. They are more alike then different.

    GW Bush, was profoundly incompetent economically and his incompetence continues to make Obama look good. Bush racially only harmed Whites with his no child left behind laws and rampant philo semitism. Romney is exactly the same animal.

  86. Noble Lord's Gravatar Noble Lord
    October 19, 2012 - 6:24 pm | Permalink


    “The general pattern in Europe during the 19th century was that small groups of intellectuals would forge a vision of the national community, e.g. in Germany or Poland, long before politicians expressed that vision in political platforms. ”

    DooooWn’t you believei it folks!

    The industrial revolution cared for no white man, less they offer their sons to be cannon fodder for the JEWS in foreign conquests of lands afar!

    Cecil Rhodes, Clive “of India” “Chinese Gordon”, the latter slayed by the MAHDI army, agaist his wishes i understand.

    I admit i have not read all of the text, but that seems to be all i do nowadays, rebut and point out the obvioius to all these credentialed idiots!

    The idea of white identity emerged when?

    You don’t have to cross an ocean to get it, so all the smart guys and gals, why is it this black dude feels the need to point you in the correct direction?

    Love is a wonderful power, try it.

    Ooops you have to be quiet to hear it first, in order to take on board what OUR world problem is and how we can defeat it.

    Don’t believe the…your hype.

    Gotta go, the usual suspecra are busy gaining ground and i havve to awaken some seeds of love.

  87. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 19, 2012 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    “Your comment is very appreciated, and I hope you won’t mind my posting it immediately on BUGS without appending your name.”

    I don’t mind one bit. Actually, I really appreciate everything about your response.

    In one of your earlier comments you mentioned that you’re 71 years old. That’s awesome. Your passion and pro-White attitude are inspiring. I’m not just talking about the BUGS thing; there is something likeable, friendly, and enjoyable about your comments under this article.

    Regarding the layout and appearance of the site — nobody’s perfect, of course. And most of us are limited by time and money and other things that go along with being a human. What’s great about the internet is that we can help each other in different ways.

    Thanks again.

  88. October 19, 2012 - 6:07 pm | Permalink


    I’m delighted to have this wonderful online edition (your link!) of this book that I’ve wanted to read for a long time, and I thank you very much!

    But like Jason I wish that the primary focus of all of us was not such books, but was spreading the message of the anti-whites’ program of white genocide.

    It’s very odd to focus primarily on reading about one’s genocide and discussing one’s genocide, rather than focus primarily on fighting against one’s genocide!

  89. Invictus's Gravatar Invictus
    October 19, 2012 - 6:02 pm | Permalink

    re JFK

    There are very good reasons for strongly suspecting that the Self-Chosen killed JFK. In addition to those mentioned above, he was preparing to introduce silver-backed dollars that would bypass the Federal Reserve.

    One can acknowledge this without hero-worshipping Kennedy.

  90. October 19, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink
  91. Rudd's Gravatar Rudd
    October 19, 2012 - 5:38 pm | Permalink

    @ Rob
    So it was AIPAC that got JFK killed?
    Everybody knows that JFK was killed by friends of Joe DeMaggio because of his affair with Marlyn Monroe. Joe was a very jealous man.

  92. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 19, 2012 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    This is anything but the Colonel’s recipe.

  93. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 19, 2012 - 4:56 pm | Permalink

    If you consider how many sins Jews commit every year you understand why they need a million chickens to take their sins away!

  94. Peters's Gravatar Peters
    October 19, 2012 - 4:55 pm | Permalink

    @peppermint Anti-Whites demand Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians

    Can you give some published examples for this?

  95. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 19, 2012 - 4:17 pm | Permalink


    I first read about this Jew cult circumcision practice in the late 90’s, and was very skeptical about it, and had no idea how widespread it is among the Jews.

    Another weird Jew cult practice is chicken swinging where the Jews swing chickens over their heads, and wish their sins off on the chickens, after which the chickens are slaughtered. According to the New York Times a million or so chickens are slaughtered in this ritual every year in New York. Bizzare. I still have a hard time believing that one—even though I have seen NY newspaper photos.

  96. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 19, 2012 - 3:53 pm | Permalink

    @Free Ride:
    USA did produce most finished goods, even before the war?
    UK and Germany did do manufacturing, yes.

  97. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 19, 2012 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Not in the dark at all..
    The schools teach of Saint Einstein and Ann Frank and take the students to the holocaust museums.

  98. mark's Gravatar mark
    October 19, 2012 - 1:44 pm | Permalink

    French Jews Threaten Lawsuit Against Twitter for Racist Posts–finance.html

  99. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 19, 2012 - 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Most White Americans would not believe this about the Jews:

    Shows how in the dark we Americans are about the Jews.

  100. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    October 19, 2012 - 1:25 pm | Permalink

    The Internet is our saving grace. One effective writer is Fred, a man who uses the sword of laughter. His current offering – is apropos the race issue. Fred will not name the Jew but he is effective, far more effective than a ranter would be.

  101. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 19, 2012 - 1:18 pm | Permalink

    I think the mantra should also deal with deconstructing the phrase “demographic change”

  102. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 19, 2012 - 1:15 pm | Permalink


    “demographic change”

    It is strange how white people are used to hearing/reading about this change. Yet they do not see it for what it is… their ongoing genocide.

  103. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 19, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: I downloaded the video on this drug money laundering news but haven’t watched it yet.

    I may not bother. We’ve had drug smuggling and criminality of this sort coming out of every White House since Reagan was forced to pick GHW Bush as his VP. Prior to Reagan harvesting Bush Sr. out of the garbage bin of corrupt and criminal humanity, its my studied opinion that most of the drug running was being done out of the CIA, as far back as Viet Nam and the Golden Triangle years. Presidents may have been aware of it or may have suspected it was going on, but they kept their mouths shut for fear of winding up like JFK did in Dallas.

    That changed with the departure of Reagan – and I am convinced that every single slab of human filth who’s hiney cheeks have sat behind the desk in the Oval Office since then has been personally involved in the drug trafficking industry.

    Most of these guys enter office with a net worth of maybe a million bucks, but by the time they leave, they’ve got 50 or 100 times that amount stashed away. Oh, and you may notice that the jews who own the book publishing industry like to give multi-million dollar ‘advances’ on the memoirs of their obedient stooges – cash payments up front, before a single book is ever read or purchased. That’s the standard method of paying these sleazy rats off.

  104. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    October 19, 2012 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Well the beautiful thing is that people are hearing about it, and even if only a fraction are convinced that we face genocide, and another fraction see the injustice of it even if they don’t think it is technically genocide, we are in business.

  105. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 19, 2012 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

    @JustaWhiteMom: No, he made no attempt to convince me that I, or White Americans in general – should support their racial dispossession or any of the policies which were attempting to bring it about.

    He simply reacted with what I thought was a little too much emotion to my use of the word ‘genocide’ and claimed that it wasn’t that at all. Remember the old adage about ‘doth thou protest too much’?

    I’m hoping that rats of his ilk are having occasional nightmares about visits to the gallows.

  106. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 19, 2012 - 11:55 am | Permalink

    The fact that this man couldn’t really defend himself and ended the conversation means that “the mantra” or the accusation of “genocide” is working. This is encouraging!

    Perhaps you could also have mentioned that it has been revealed that Romney is a DRUG MONEY LAUNDERER.

    For information see Veterans Today :
    Monday, October 15, 2012 : Breaking : Romney’s “Bain Capital” Drug Front for Bush Cartel, by Gordon Duff.

    Wednesday, October 17, 2012 : LA Times : Romney’s a drug-money launderer, by Kevin Barrett.

    Know your candidates.

  107. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    October 19, 2012 - 11:28 am | Permalink

    @Luke: @Luke: That’s really interesting Luke. I wish you would tell us more about the conversation. It is FANTASTIC that he says he had heard the mantra. What I would like to know is, did he give you any reason why you should support this “demographic change”, or did he just defend himself by saying its not genocide?

  108. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 19, 2012 - 10:47 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty: Someone in the Romney campaign made the stupid mistake of calling me the other day. The voice on the phone launches into the standard line of baloney about he had gotten my name (didn’t say from where) and thought that I might be interested in volunteering to help with the Romney campaign in some unspecified capacity.

    These kinds of golden and open opportunities to perform a radical hemorrhoid surgery on these sleazy, race traitorous, Israel lobby toe sucking, neo-con and RINO dirt bag politicians are just too tempting to pass up. So, I opened up my surgeons bag of cutting instruments and went to work on this Romney nitwit.

    I ran down the whole gamut of issues, but the one I wanted to cite for the TOO audience – was when I reached the subject of Romney’s vow to increase ‘legal’ immigration and how he is now backpedaling on his earlier vows to crack down hard on illegal immigration. Romney had recently announced that he wanted to drastically INCREASE ‘high-tech’ immigration quotas, meaning that he wants to import more H1B-Visa IT aliens from Pakistan and India and probably from a few Asian countries. So, more American IT workers could be forced to train those H1B-Visa aliens and then get fired, and be replaced by these guys who will be paid scale and receive no benefits.

    Anyway, to get to my point – I brought up the fact that flooding the USA with millions of third world people who are not of European descent was equivalent to genocide of White European people and was harmful to the native founding stock of this nation and that the 1947/1948 Convention on the Crime and Punishment of Genocide clearly defines this as genocide.

    The Romney staffer immediately said he had heard that claim before (which must mean that he and the White traitorous ruling elites are aware of what they are doing and are hearing these claims and they are getting defensive about it, because they know they are guilty) but, then he assured me that it wasn’t ‘genocide’ at all. I flatly told him that he was a lying SOB and that it WAS genocide – according to the official definition – and that the day was coming when genocide trials will be held and every last politician who has participated in this genocide conspiracy was going to be tried and convicted and then sentenced to capital punishment.

    The jerk mumbled some feeble excuse that he had to go, and the call ended.

    Conclusion: These rats are fully aware of what they are doing to the White European majority in America. So, let us all make a promise to ourselves to make extra sure that the knots on the nooses are extra tight, before the trap door levers are pulled.

  109. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 19, 2012 - 10:17 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I agree with Jason about JFK. I have for quite some time been amazed by this very misplaced ‘JFK worship’ that seems to afflict so many of our people who are loosely connected in some way with the pro-White, or ‘patriotard’ community. Part of this JFK worship might stem from the fact that he appeared to be a little jew-wise and that, according to Mike Piper’s book Final Judgment, wound up falling victim to assassination due to his willingness to buck the jews and Israel.

    The bottom line is simple. The entire Kennedy clan, the entire Bush clan, the entire Clinton clan and every one connected or affiliated with any of these families – are now and have always been the mortal enemies of every White man, woman and child of European descent.

  110. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 10:14 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Norman, JFK was as anti-White as you could get at the time. Forcing Southern Whites to integrate and assimilate at gunpoint is part of genocide. JFK wanted to FORCE Whites to go to school with blacks, eat with them, and do business with them, even on their own property against the deep wishes of Whites.

    When Whites said, “No thank you “, JFK sent men with guns to threaten their lives if Whites didn’t submit. Other presidents did the same thing. That’s called being Anti-White.

    You conspiracy kooks let your own children down. You want to blame the Masons or “the Jew”, well you might look in the mirror. You have more emotion invested in a drug addicted, whoremonger that someone told you was glamorous than the genocide of your people.

    Imagine what we could have accomplished if we had focused on real facts. You might have saved your children’s future.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      October 19, 2012 - 10:30 pm | Permalink

      @Jason Speaks: Jason forcing assimilation and integration is not genocide. The white race is not that fragile. You may not like integration and you may attend a private school. The big problem came with busing which sought to better blacks scores but lowered whites. When Rock and Roll started many thought the integration of black and white music was the devils work but most kids just liked the beat. Blacks are not the enemy. It’s those who use them as a tool to weaken both blacks and whites.

  111. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 19, 2012 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    @Gary John: Here we go again. Another not-very-bright and pathetically short-sighted ‘supposedly’ white voice (I am beginning to be suspicious about such voices and whether they really are white) – stupidly advocating the very same ill-advised and poorly thought out strategy.

    I’ve said it before and on more than one occasion, Gary John. Perhaps you’ve not seen my earlier comments, so I will repeat myself. This current virulently anti-white ‘system’ that is in place across the entire White, Western world – was put there by our jewish enemies and by our treasonous, race-traitorous White elites. This anti-White system offers an incredible number of very juicy benefits to the non-Whites who go along with it. It was no accident or coincidence, GARY – that the jews set the system up that way and that non-whites BENEFIT in countless ways as long as it remains in place.

    So, just how deficient does one’s White IQ have to be in order for a White man or woman to foolishly believe and promote the clearly laughable notion that Whites are going to be able to troll for allies in the various non-white ‘gentile’ demographic groups and recruit these minorities to help us do battle with and defeat the jews, and then dismantle the anti-White system that these very same minorities profit and gain so much advantage from?

    Allow me to remind you about the realities of race and racial differences and how they factor into the benefits that the anti-White system offers to non-whites. The vast majority of these ‘perks’ and ‘affirmative action’ laws and minority set-asides bestow advantages upon minorities who do not possess the IQ or work ethic or aptitude or talents to achieve on their own. Only a complete and utter moron would believe that minorities would voluntarily surrender these unearned advantages by allying themselves with the Whites who are being harmed by such laws – and then help the Whites defeat the jews and anti-white White race traitors and then dismantle these anti-white systems.

    I am beginning to suspect that people who post and promote these kinds of comical ideas on pro-White websites are doing so for devious reasons. Such as trying to persuade Whites to not realize that they are in this battle alone and that they must begin to think ‘tribally’ and realize that they are in a racial battle for their survival and the only way to fight and win a race war is to think, organize, and fight on racial terms.

    Also, the people who promote this stupid idea always seem to conveniently forget to address the all-important topic of what happens if, in their fantasy world – such an alliance were to be established and the jews are defeated – what happens afterwards? Non-whites inside historic White European nations will still continue to be a huge existential threat to the long-term survival of Whites and their ability to secure their dominance and unchallenged control over their nations. Non-whites inside White nations will still think it is their ‘right’ to chase after and breed with the females of White Europeans. Non-whites inside White nations will continue to be a parasitical drain on the financial resources of Whites. Do IQ challenged people like Gary think that once non-whites help Whites fight and defeat the jews and anti-White race traitorous white elites and dismantle the anti-white system – that they are going to volunteer to be repatriated to their own historic homelands and that they will swear to an oath to stay away from our women?

    I really do have problems believing that there are White humans as stupid as Gary appears to be. But, if such Whites do exist in any sizable percentages of the White population – the White race is in bigger trouble than anyone ever thought.

  112. kilroy's Gravatar kilroy
    October 19, 2012 - 9:52 am | Permalink

    I think I detect a consensus emerging; that the mantra is the way to break through the “logjam”. The mantra is the only kind of approach that makes sense to me, as I, and I think most people, actually like the different races and cultures of the world. The problem is that our own is perishing, under the weight of a coercive ideology. The mantra approaches the real problem head on, and strikes at the roots.
    The next phase is (competent) organization. At present it is rather lonely holding these revolutionary views, at least where I live. As the author points out (although unfortunately leaving out the mantra), the intellectual framework has been laid. People need to realize that at least some kind of victory is a foregone conclusion, and so step publicly into the fray.

  113. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 9:00 am | Permalink


    JFK was as Anti-White as anyone. He had a well-known visceral dislike of Southern Whites. He pushed hard for the Civil Rights Bill but couldn’t pull it off. He sent federal troops to enforce integration.

    I mean, WTF fellas? He was Anti-White. But you guys entertain 40 year old whack off fantasies that “THEY” had to get him because he was so much own our side. Decade after decade, some version of a ghost story comes forward and wastes everyone’s time. When it is finally debunked, another decade has been lost.

    LOL LOL. I mean, it’s funny at this point. You guys aren’t serious.

    The sad thing is, the evidence for worldwide White Genocide (as defined by UN Treaty on Genocide, which does not require killing to be genocide), is supported by routine public statements. We have leaders everywhere saying Europe, Canada and America MUST not be homogeneous. We have them describe Whites as the cancer of the world. Openly.

    Not in some goofy occult ceremony, wearing devil outfits and speaking in Masonic tongue, but in English, in well circulated, widely available books. But that don’t get ya going does it?

    Simply studying real, public, massive, repeated statements, actions and policies to destroy ALL White countries and ONLY White countries just bores you, huh? It doesn’t give you the spooky thrill of chasing down JFK spook stories.

    There was a genocide of your people going on and so many of you chose to waste your time on this nonsense.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      October 19, 2012 - 10:01 am | Permalink

      JFK was assassinated because of his opposition to the Vietnam war. Being against segregation does not equal anti white. It is true that the civil rights cause was co opted by the same group that runs our country today.

  114. Free Ride's Gravatar Free Ride
    October 19, 2012 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    @90404. “One man working 40 hours….” Did he actually produce the wealth he consumed or were there other factors involved, such as the world’s factories lying in ruins after WWII.

  115. Csaba's Gravatar Csaba
    October 19, 2012 - 4:13 am | Permalink

    The proble is with “Brother Mickiewicz”, that he was a kabbalist, frankist jew. The 19th century German and Polish “Nation-building” are good examples, how the kabbalist jews hijack the collective imagination of whole nations and how they opress the minority, which is sober enough to recognize their criminal activities. Mickiewicz is a jewish arch-enemy of the Polish people.

  116. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    October 19, 2012 - 3:48 am | Permalink

    Great article .This a bit of an article of my own (got a little carried away) .
    What is critical is to get Europeans from around the world to start to see themselves in this manner . Again I must advocate for the use of the word European American ,European Australian ,etc; white is too generic and has been tar brushed . The malign forces of Jewry and Masonry desire the destruction of the races of the world . Masons , for religious reason (ie they think their beliefs [reincarnation] is the real truth) and international Jewry to prove themselves the chosen people (master race) .The common people have been culturally degraded and deserted ( trashed by the MSM (drug and porno) and “educationalist” (dumbing down) ) by our ‘leaders’ , who have now submitted totally to the racist policy(religion) of multiculturalism throughout Western countries.
    They seem not to have considered what will be the outcome of a rising China and India , when the allegiance of these people(in Western countries) will be to their own roots . How can this toxic philosophy possibly work when these individuals can’t help but support(quite naturally) the people of their mother country . Especially when the racial AND religious differences are so very very different. The bankers plan obviously is to have everyone competing so much that no one will have time to develop another cultural association.By keeping the society in a constant state of confusion (competition and racial discord) and befuddlement (sex ,drugs and toys) And by putting our children in daycare (Jews,Muslims,Indians will set up their own institutions under the claim of ‘cultural requirements’) and brainwashing the kids to miscegenation .The MSM celebrates .That is the European people will be bred down as the matrix for Jewish rulership . Have a look what constitutes Egypt for a dubious indication.

    Sure Mr Mason it all looks good on paper but as the % of Europeans falls towards the 50% mark inevitably those European( unbastardized ) people will (want to) coalesce .Why ? Take a look in the mirror .Multiculturalism inevitably leads to totalitarianism just a communism did . It is the only way to get people to cooperate who’s capacities and self image are very different . Ignorant Masons don’t seem to see that once they ‘win’ then everybody will want to become a Mason and then it will lose it exclusive cache and fall into oblivion (first through corruption) .Didn’t any body who wanted to get ahead in the USSR join the communist party ? What makes yours system so special ? Nothing . All the Masons are doing is clearing a way for world Jewry to dominate . The international bankers will ditch you lot at the end , it so obvious. Why obvious ? Have the Jews ever ever ever joined the club ?As I write Jewry is setting up its own Parliament in Europe! What happened at the end of the USSR is Jews clubbed together and left on mass , robbing the joint and degrading the people . Yet all we hear from the Ziomasonic media is evil Putin . Not even a squeak about this disgraceful evil Jewish behavior over what , 70 years ? How can this be ? Something is very rotten .
    Then there is their technological argument : The world has changed . Really ? So maybe you don’t eat ,…. , and breed . The only thing that will change is the social cage to hold people in , that is society . Will it be cooperative and democratic ? Or will it be compulsory and totalitarian ?
    We undermine the racial identity-ethnic ballast , cultural roots (religious and intellectual) , and genetic disposition (towards democratic structures ie aggression with cooperation ,order with intelligence ) at our children’s peril ; at the social meaning of what it is to be human , to have to right to freely congregate in which way we choose .
    This last point is being stripped away in many Western countries as we converse , the right to freely associate . At the moment ‘they’ are using employment laws to force associations (M&F and race) but we could soon see something much darker : racial zoning laws and then who you can congregate with in public (by taking away the license to operate), where your children can be schooled .
    First it starts as an MSM shame game , then those who contravene the ‘good’ stereo types are legislated against .

    All for what , a ‘theory’ called multiculturalism and a banking system called Rothschild .

  117. -JC's Gravatar -JC
    October 19, 2012 - 3:11 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    “Jews assassinated JFK” thread here starting with chapters from Michael Collins Piper’s book on the subject:
    Consider the irony of how differently JFK approached the same economic problems that Black Obama addresses them, today JFK – Path to Prosperity (1962)

  118. -JC's Gravatar -JC
    October 19, 2012 - 3:01 am | Permalink

    Here’s one of the problems: College students, these days, Their behavior particularly during the question and answer portion of the full-length video of this Rushton/Suzuki debate that took place in Canada is pretty disappointing. Suzuki benefits for that extorted federal income tax money funneled to so called public broadcasting which really ought to be private.

  119. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 3:00 am | Permalink

    @Rob: Thanks for the recommendation of Ultimate Evil. For those not familiar with the Collins Piper work:

  120. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    October 19, 2012 - 2:49 am | Permalink

    Back in the mid 1990’s in Queensland, Australia’s third largest state, a woman was expelled from running for a seat in Australia’s conservative ‘Liberal’ party because she claimed Aboriginal school children received disproportionate welfare assistance. Her name was Pauline Hanson, then in her early 40’s, single, quite attractive, she ran a fish and chip shop in working class Ipswich where it was thought she was never going to win a seat for the conservative party anyway.

    Her expulsion made headlines and so she decided to run as an independent. To everyone’s surprise she actually BOLTED in. Once in parliament she continued to voice her opposition to all kinds of inequalities and eventually formed her own party.

    In the 1988 election this party nearly attracted one vote in every four in the Queensland parliament and she won a seat in Australia’s National Parliament in Canberra. Her enormous support came from the White, poorer working class of older Australians who lamented the passing of the White Australia of their youth. Pauline came from a fish and chip shop in a small town to being a national figure with some serious opposition. She was not equipped to understand what she had taken on.

    The Australian establishment, meaning all the venomous lefties who infest Print media, Television and Radio went to unbelievable lengths to destroy this politically incorrect woman. The inner part swindlers, as they do in EVERY ‘White’ country, rule this nation from behind a curtain, funded ‘rent a crowd’ thugs to physically harass and assault her supporters at Town Hall meetings

    Eventually she was jailed for wrongly receiving nearly a Million Dollar government grant for her massive electoral success in the 1988 election. This was appealed and eventually, after several years of blatantly wrongful imprisonment she was released. During her time in prison, every time one of her children visited her she was subjected to body cavity searches by the Prison guards.

    Looking back I think she came too soon. The internet had not taken hold as it has today. If she had waited until now I think her movement back to a Whiter Australia would be unstoppable and instead of imprisoning her, they’d have to shoot her.

  121. peppermint's Gravatar peppermint
    October 19, 2012 - 2:04 am | Permalink

    Take a step back, and ask yourself what these mean:
    * anti-Semitic
    * Jewish
    * Zionist

    Then you will know what these mean:
    * anti-White
    * White
    * pro-White

  122. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 19, 2012 - 1:13 am | Permalink


    The Kennedy’s never gave any resistance to the Jewish Lobby or to Israel, that is all made up fantasy stuff.

    Why on earth, when we have massive, overwhelming, publicly available and admitted data that there is a worldwide drive to flood each and every White country with a mass of non-Whites, and then force assimilation, so as to destroy the White populations, do we spend time on boutique conspiracy theories?

  123. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 19, 2012 - 1:07 am | Permalink

    @Eric: Bottoms up to bottom up.

  124. Rob's Gravatar Rob
    October 19, 2012 - 12:43 am | Permalink

    Rudd wrote:

    I think we have to get the Jewish AIPAC and other Zionists lobbyists under control. At the bottom of the White issue is
    getting back control of our government from the jewl.
    First this may seem not connected but we must look at our
    Israeli policy verses US interests.

    JFK was killed largely because of that. His administration was pushing the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs (former name for the present-day AIPAC) to register as a foreign agent, which would have greatly limited what they are able to do.
    That, and his opposition to the Israeli bomb, is why he was killed.
    Read ‘Final Judgement’, by Michael Collins Piper for the details.

    As a former JFK assassination buff, for lack of a more handy term, as well as a person who has been “jew aware” for my entire adult life (and earlier), it was amazing for me to discover how the evidence implicating Mossad involvement in the assassination was kept completely out of the mainstream literature concerning the assassination, until Piper’s book.
    Many people in the White Advocacy Movement are aware of this.

    I know I’m digressing and I apologize for it, but let me just mention another book I recently re-read.
    The title is The Ultimate Evil, by Maury Terry. The book deals with the so-called Son of Sam murder case of NYC from the mid 70s, specifically, the conspiratorial aspects of the case.
    First published in 1987, when when I first read it, and most recently republished with various updates in 1999, which is the version I recently read.

    Long story short, Berkowitz was not the only shooter. Anyone familiar with the case will know this beyond a reasonable doubt.
    The Brooklyn District Attorney at the time was a character (or lack thereof) named Eugene Gold. He was the one responsible for the “prosecution” of Berkowitz, as it were. Of course, on the very night of his arrest, Berkowitz confessed to having perpetrated all of the shootings, so there was no trial and nothing for Gold to really prosecute.
    During the several months between Berkowitz’ arrest in August ’77 and his formal admission of the crimes in May ’78, DA Gold was inundated with evidence indicating more than a single shooter in the case. Among others, many of the NYPD detectives on the case didn’t buy into Berkowitz’ confession. Nor did the Queens DA at the time, John Santucci. But solid evidence of multiple shooters that would be meaningful in court didn’t exist at the time, so Santucci could do nothing.
    Since Berkowitz was caught due to evidence in the last shooting in Brooklyn, it was Gold’s case to handle.
    And, in his capacity as DA, Gold steadfastly refused to act on any of the conspiratorial evidence in the case. (Neither did the Bronx DA, whose Italian-sounding name I forget, Meola or something.)

    A few years later, as evidence of conspiracy grew ever stronger, Gold decided not to run for reelection in 1981, mainly because of the Son of Sam case, although this is never stated in any writings about him, except the Terry book.

    A few months after leaving office, Gold attended a DA’s convention in Alabama, where he molested a 10 year old girl. He was caught, and in return for undergoing psychiatric counseling, he was not prosecuted. He chose to undergo the counseling in his “home” in Israel.

    Here’s my point.
    99% of people reading this will have never heard of this episode.
    Gold was DA in the most populous section (Brooklyn) of the largest city in the country. He admitted to molesting a young girl only a few months after leaving office and was given the option of undergoing psychiatric counseling in a foreign country, in lieu of being prosecuted.

    I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade, but that’s the kind of power and influence we are up against.

    Read the book, the 1999 edition if possible – it’s a page turner.

  125. October 19, 2012 - 12:01 am | Permalink


    I couldn’t bear to repost that to our beleaguered (especially at the moment) webmaster at bugs. I did forward it to another bugser who may see that it gets around a bit. Thanks again.

  126. October 18, 2012 - 11:10 pm | Permalink


    Your comment is very appreciated, and I hope you won’t mind my posting it immediately on BUGS without appending your name.

    I feel exactly as you do….I’ve been a bugser for one year now, but I had actually stumbled across the BUGS site several years previously, and if I hadn’t been totally bewildered as to what they were all about (the site is actually slightly more organized now!) I would have become a bugser at least a couple of years earlier than I did!

    But a very busy someone is making a sacrifice to keep the site even in as good shape as it’s in, and we are all properly very grateful to him. Yow, now I’m not sure I should post your comment there or not. I complained about the site in my customary thoughtless way some weeks ago, and it was not helpful. Let me think about it. Ha! It would actually be better if YOU posted your post there! :) It really would.

    We may be doing about as well as we can with the site right at the moment, but notification like yours might be very helpful in keeping the problem in the mind of everyone who may eventually be able to do something about it.

    If you feel like posting it yourself, just post it to one of the daily blogs by Bob:

    If you’d rather not, I’ll probably do it, after I figure out how to do it without causing injured feelings.

    Right now it’s that time of the evening when I (obviously) just turn into a gabby old man, so I’m going to check out.

    Thanks again for the VERY constructive criticism. It’s ironic I guess, that the part of the white movement that I consider to be the most highly focused and highly organized also has the most rattletrap website! Kind of cool, in a way.

  127. October 18, 2012 - 10:38 pm | Permalink

    “the White Advocacy Movement (WAM)”

    I’m sorry, but I don’t like that gussied-up name! “Advocating” against white genocide? Not gussied-up enough for the task!

    My personal suggestion is to just call ourselves “the white movement” or “the White movement”, as in:

    “I agree with Richard the Lionheart that we in the white movement should work to ‘stop the global program of white genocide that is using the entire third world as a weapon against our race.'”

    Just calling ourselves the white movement is part of a huge personal urge I have to appropriate the word white to mean “pro-white” whenever the context makes that clear. As an independent experiment, myself and another bugser did that subtly one day to a white anti-white online, and you should have seen how angry and protective of his status as a white he suddenly became! And probably he’s one of those who usually claims that “whiteness” is meaningless! Lol! (Alice, if you’re reading this, there’s a contradiction you might enjoy! :)

    But I got confusing messages when I ran the general idea of using “white” to mean “pro-white” by Bob Whitaker…I’m assuming a misunderstanding occurred between us as had happened once before, but until I learn to use skype and can talk with him about it, I’m carrying the idea no further than just saying that my personal idea is to call ourselves “the white movement.”

    When it comes to which words work and which words don’t, I definitely trust Bob’s judgment more than my own, you betcha’.

  128. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 18, 2012 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    I appreciate what you (and all the other mantra posters) are doing with the mantra, and I know you don’t do it to receive thanks.

    You wrote:

    “We are looking for a few (hundred) good men and women!”

    I don’t know a nice way to put this — the last time I went to the Mantra / BUGS site, I thought it looked cluttered and difficult to navigate.

    And I remember seeing another T.O.O. commenter say something similar a couple months ago.

    My point is, appearances do matter, and a clean, simple, easy-to-navigate website will attract more mantra posters.

    I don’t want to sound ungrateful for that site or the people who created it and maintain it. I’m just trying to offer some constructive criticism.

    If it’s not my place, if this comment is not helpful, then please forgive me.

  129. Champ's Gravatar Champ
    October 18, 2012 - 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Great article Mr. Dodgson. You ask, “What might get the assembly line running?” The Mantra will get the assembly line running. I’ve been in the trenches swarming for over six months, and I still marvel at how effective it is. It may not be for everyone, but every pro-White who has read the legal definition of genocide should at least give some serious thought to Bob’s Underground Graduate Seminar. I got hooked, and I can’t keep from saying it….anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White!

  130. Richard the Lionheart's Gravatar Richard the Lionheart
    October 18, 2012 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    “The big problem is very low white birthrates.”

    Japan and Korea have lower birthrates than the West, yet are almost 100% Japanese and Korean and will always remain so.


    No one is trying to genocide all Asians, using massive foreign immigration and forced integration, as well as 24/7 race mixing propaganda, on all of their media.

    These anti-whites, are targeting all white countries and only white countries.

    And a few thousand pro whites, having more babies, isn’t going to stop a global program of white genocide, that is using the entire third world as a weapon, against our race.

    What we need to do, is go after the white genociders and stop them ASAP.

    Increased white birthrates, will be a natural outcome of stopping the white genociders.

  131. October 18, 2012 - 8:33 pm | Permalink


    I’m 71, and I must be getting senile because I’m not catching your drift at all! My age group is the group that remembers when this country was WHITE.

    And could not have believed that it would ever be anything else.

    The people who’ve done this have a lot to answer for. And that includes me in my younger years.

    It’s amazing to see something that took millenia to build be nearly destroyed in one’s own short lifetime.

  132. Bear's Gravatar Bear
    October 18, 2012 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    It’s is likely that within your age group that Whites are already a minority, so you should have the same assistance.

  133. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 18, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Your, sorry.

  134. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 18, 2012 - 7:54 pm | Permalink


    Hell hath no fury like Whites smug in moral superiority.

    Hands down you’re best post ever. Thanks!

  135. Andrew's Gravatar Andrew
    October 18, 2012 - 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Dodgeson is completely correct. I think that the Great Man theory is very relevant, although it might be more accurate to call the modern version the “Great Cabal” theory, which involves a tightly-knit group of great men acting in concert. History is, to some extent, a biography of the achievements of great men, individuals with high levels of intelligence and talent, who gathered resources and people together to achieve great things. “One man with courage makes a majority”.

    In recent times, the achievement of the Neocons is an outstanding example of what a small group of dedicated and talented outsiders can achieve, in effect capturing a primary U.S. political party and using that to command the nation’s policies in many key areas. While this has not been in the interests of European Americans, it has certainly been an incredible achievement (or anti-achievement). What one group has done, others can do.

    One of the necessary first steps of developing a “Great Cabal”, as Mr. Dodgeson describes, is developing theory and doctrines, understanding the problems that are to be solved and the aims that are to be achieved. This leads to policies and initiatives, which are carried out under the leadership of great men, a talented elite with the abilities to marshal the masses. Everyone can and should contribute to the growth of the movement according to their capacity, but the key role will be played by the great men that naturally arise within the movement.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      October 19, 2012 - 8:43 am | Permalink

      Neo Cons were able to take over the republicans with the help of the media. Most Fox viewers don’t even know what a neo con is yet that is all that is on Fox. Judge Nepolitano offered another view (Libertarian} and got fired because his ratings stated to soar. 97% control of the media is Pravda USA

  136. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 18, 2012 - 7:46 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    I thank you for the kind words, and congratulate you on making a fine argument on behalf of your favorite tactic. I am very impressed by the power of the mantra. However, if one is uncomfortable or unable to put it to good or frequent use it does not exempt them from the fight. We will each be most effective in our own sphere’s. We must all resume personal responsibility.

    Sorry about that third sentence. It did kind of run away on me.
    I enjoy finding the inherent contradictions. Environmentalists who do not notice population growth, the elevation of the single mother to heroine while complaining about taxes, everything in education. It us a fun game and anyone can play, there are lots of targets.

  137. October 18, 2012 - 7:45 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry, but I compulsively have to correct an error I made above. Words are everything in the present battle, and I wrote,

    “I forget I’m not out in the mainstream ‘arguing’ with anti-Whites…apologies!”

    That should be,

    “I forget I’m not out in the mainstream SQUASHING anti-Whites…apologies!”

    And that’s not chest thumping! I put “argue” in quotes in the first statement because we don’t do that! I cringe when I see so many of our leaders responding to the charges made against them by anti-Whites, and even helpfully repeating the anti-White terminology as they do so!

    WE hold the moral high ground, and WE ask the questions!

    The proper response to every sneering question and accusation from anti-Whites is to aggressively charge them with supporting white genocide and press them and press them and press them on that issue!

  138. October 18, 2012 - 7:22 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Your first paragraph delighted and instructed me, and I agree entirely with your second paragraph (if I understand correctly its third sentence).

    But I strongly disagree with the beginning of your third paragraph:

    “There is no one best approach…no right way to do this.”

    There IS!

    There is one single theme that both shocks and carries our fundamental truth to whites! If that theme were the core of virtually every utterance by pro-Whites for one or two years, that theme and the pro-white terminology we deliver it with would enter into the public domain and into every white mind in this country.

    When every white has heard the term, “White Genocide” (you who are reading this are sick of hearing it? Then help us make whites in the mainstream equally sick of hearing it!), and the term “anti-white” has begun to push aside the 3000 pound R-word that sits in every white mind, then we’ll have a movement instead of a collection of molecules in random motion.

    The effective ways of delivering this unified message, and of responding to the responses it generates, are being constantly developed and improved. We are looking for a few (hundred) good men and women!

  139. thm's Gravatar thm
    October 18, 2012 - 7:03 pm | Permalink


    Speaking of pornographer Al Goldstein who you quoted, here is a story in today’s news that is to me along the same lines: Jewish supremacist suppression and marginalization of traditional religious values. Yes, there is a small victory here, but notice how the ADL weighs in, as well as, on the video, Jewish attorney Mark Eiglarsh. This is the kind of issue that enrages typical White people, yet, there is failure of White activists to effectively respond!

    Texas judge rules for cheerleaders in Bible banner verse suit

  140. October 18, 2012 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Win…and attach White advocacy to every victory. Win arguments against shrill anti-Whites.
    Mock anti-White policy ruthlessly at every turn.
    Be the better man or woman when everyone can see. Jews got you down? Out-donate them (to benign charities only of course). Be a paragon.

    Enough small wins will snowball into a big one. “Quality not quantity” gets peddled a lot here and for good reason. But to a critical eye it highlights low numbers. We need political soldiers, professional advocates, and money. White advocacy needs a base even more.

    Jews don’t work for free. Who pays for ADL lawyers? Thousands upon thousands of little Jews. Dentists, psychologists, petty clerks, and so on. Get a base and let the tithing begin. Take half of what Whites donate to endangered species and we’ll have an army! Hell hath no fury like Whites smug in moral superiority.

  141. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 18, 2012 - 6:20 pm | Permalink

    I think it was 4 children.
    And 1 man worked 40 hrs a week, to support 6 IN THE MIDDLE CLASS.

  142. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 18, 2012 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    @joe manson:
    If this is the ‘body parts, mayor and Othodox Jews’ give more info. Thanks.

  143. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 18, 2012 - 6:16 pm | Permalink

    immigration, which is why the left has pushed so much for I, and the destruction of White Nations.

  144. Phil's Gravatar Phil
    October 18, 2012 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Mr. Dodgson, can you then give us a simple bullet point, declarative list of the things that you believe a White movement should stand for so that we may disseminate the list?

  145. Rudd's Gravatar Rudd
    October 18, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    I think we have to get the Jewish AIPAC and other Zionists lobbyists under control. At the bottom of the White issue is
    getting back control of our government from the jewl.
    First this may seem not connected but we must look at our
    Israeli policy verses US interests.

  146. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 18, 2012 - 5:19 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    Great points. And no, the whole “birth rate” canard is not the answer. We don’t have to breed like rabbits in some side-by-side competition with brown people. I believe MacDonald has shown, that if a nation is homogeneous, the birth rate problem takes care of itself. In time, it corrects.

    But if you are flooded with non-Whites, no amount of rapid breeding will save Whites. So, the answer is, stop the mass immigration and stop the forced assimilation.

  147. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 18, 2012 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

    We are fighting a system of etiquette. Etiquette is an artificial system which need have no moral underpinnings nor justification. It is used to label people as acceptable or ‘one of us’. Having abandoned all real systems of shared morals the elite have fooled us in to unthinking acceptance of their rules make us ‘good’ people.

    We must attack this system every way we can. Make fun of it, laugh at it, devise sensible questions which really cannot be answered. Find the intellectual silliness in every group which results when we try to adhere to it. We must all attack the system to the people we know, where we live, in any way we can. It can be really funny to simply ask someone why something is good or bad. It is breathtaking how few have sensible answers.

    There is no one best approach, no single level of commitment which is acceptable, no right way to do this. Everyone must use their own talents and resources in every way they can. We can do this, if we ever stop blaming each other, knocking other people’s efforts, and hating more whites than we love. Being free and white means you don’t wait for someone’s permission or approval. Find a way.

  148. joe manson's Gravatar joe manson
    October 18, 2012 - 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Not trying to spam with stuff off topic, but you guys and girls should check out the Solomon Dwek sentencing.

    This guy lives in my county and is considered one of the biggest conmen in NJ state history.

    He cooporated with the FBI and 46 rabbis got convicted.

    It is absolutely amazing how much fraud was going on right around me.

    Check it out|topnews|text|Frontpage

  149. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    October 18, 2012 - 4:48 pm | Permalink

    @thm: Thank you for your reply. We need to alert our young people to this outrage. Teenagers are contrarian and if they only knew how they were being manipulated they would all embrace traditional ways just to spite their enemies.

    “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism. Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged…”

    (My apologies to KM for failing to capitalize Whites. I am having trouble remembering to do that.)

  150. October 18, 2012 - 4:39 pm | Permalink

    @Huntelaar: I always end up needing to apologize for my tone on TOO threads. I forget I’m not out in the MSM “arguing” with anti-whites…apologies!

  151. October 18, 2012 - 4:30 pm | Permalink


    Speaking of donations, the white students forming a white student union at Towson University in Baltimore need some. More info and instructions for donating are at the link below.

    “Towson University has not recognized the WSU [White Student Union] as a registered student organization, which means that the WSU is ineligible to receive funding from the university.”

  152. Bear's Gravatar Bear
    October 18, 2012 - 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Dearest Fellow Occidentals.

    Donate, donate widely, wisely and generously. Our enemies donate very generously, extravagantly at times. Also be active as possible.

  153. thm's Gravatar thm
    October 18, 2012 - 3:51 pm | Permalink


    The attack on the white Gentile family is part of “a coordinated plan of different actions” aimed at destroying whites by way of feminism and pornification of culture. We whites must take responsibility for ourselves, but part of that is realizing how we got to where we are today.

    It is worth noting that in 1950, White couples averaged over three children, far more than replacement level, and only about one percent of White babies were born out of wedlock. This change is a testament to the amazing success the Frankfurt School and like strategies have had at destroying a functioning European ethnic society and culture. The marginalization of the Christian Faith among the young, something those who control the major cultural influences have been especially effective at, is a major factor in this.

    I was a child in the 1940’s and 1950’s (yep, I’m an old codger!), and believe me it was a different world.

    Below is documentation for this. (Yes, I’ve posted these links before):

  154. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 18, 2012 - 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Miscegenation is a major issue among the former working class of the US, many of these relationships don’t last, leaving behind white trash baby mommas who have all the characteristics of “welfare queens” to raise their peanut colored brood on Walmart and McDonald’s.

  155. Eric's Gravatar Eric
    October 18, 2012 - 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Interesting article but I believe it is too steeped in a misreading of history to do much of us any good. Our movement must be a ‘bottom up’/personal awakening. Our so-called leaders aren’t worth anything in this struggle to keep our people from becoming extinct.

    The parrallels that Mr. Dodgson draws might have been valid when Germany and Poland were forming their national characters; however, Poland was a kingdom long before it was partitioned and had a national character, i.e. language, customs, religion, etc. that united the country. Germany had a common language or derivatives thereof and neither country was being overrun with savages from different continents [though one could argue that Poland suffered both Russification and Germanization in schools]. The cultural elites of the U.S. and Europe and everywhere else that Whites call ‘home’ are too imbued with cultural, Jewish-inspired Marxism to be of any help to us. We must help ourselves and it starts with our character. We must disconnect from the pop culture that surrounds us and start to reconnect with the White culture that is inside of us.

    Everyday, we see White men and women who have thrown away their lives on drugs and alcohol abuse [the Ameri-Indian analogy holds here, I believe] because the system is stacked against them. They have lost their birthright through a culture that is foreign and they know it’s foreign to their natures’.

    In Poland [at least where I live], there are very few ‘colored’ but those that are are married to white Polish girls and have children. The idea that ‘colored’ means great has hit Poland quite hard and Polish girls go to Egypt, Turkey, etc. to get a boyfriend or husband. Polish men are partly to blame [alcoholics, ‘playas’, etc.] and they treat Polish women like crap.

    Again, the problem we face as a race is internal – meaning it’s a spiritual crisis. Until we face this fact, we will keep spinning our wheels defining the problem and doing nothing about it.

  156. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    October 18, 2012 - 2:57 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty: @Huntelaar:

    You are both right. The main problem is immigration and forced assimilation, but low birth rates are another dimension of the ongoing genocide against whites:

    Raphael Lemkin:

    “Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of CULTURE, language, NATIONAL FEELINGS, RELIGION, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, DIGNITY, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.”

    The attack on the white Gentile family is part of “a coordinated plan of different actions” aimed at destroying whites by way of feminism and pornification of culture. We whites must take responsibility for ourselves, but part of that is realizing how we got to where we are today.

  157. October 18, 2012 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

    “Occasionally I have seen a Girl with a Turkish boyfriend”

    I think I’m done for the day! :)
    White GeNOcide Project had an exchange with Jared Taylor recently on the tactical advisability of using “white genocide” as our message. Anyone interested can read the exchange here, and Jared’s responses are collected near the top:

  158. October 18, 2012 - 2:12 pm | Permalink


    “Maybe race mixing is a big problem in America, I don;t know, but in Europe it is not a problem. We stay with our own.”

    Am I right in thinking that you’re not able to “stay with your own” even in your schools, that public schools are integrated just as they are here? And that all the laws we have in the United States that prohibit whites from “staying with our own” ANYwhere are laws in Europe also (no refusal to rent or sell living quarters to other races allowed, etc.)? And that some European leaders recently called for “greater assimilation”?

    In short, are you confident that Europe’s present rate of assimilation will hold for the next generation and for the one after?

  159. Huntelaar's Gravatar Huntelaar
    October 18, 2012 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    Demographic transition model appropriately explains that societies which industrialize will have a peak birthrate and then it will go on a path of long decline. TFR’s of below 2.11 will result in extinction at the most in ~250 years. Many European nation’s TFRs are already below 1.5.

    I have never seen a mixed race family. Occasionally I have seen a Girl with a Turkish boyfriend, but with no kids. Maybe race mixing is a big problem in America, I don;t know, but in Europe it is not a problem. We stay with our own. Our problem is not having enough kids. If Our TFR is not raised to 2.11 at some point in the next 100 years we will have committed extinction by suicide.

  160. October 18, 2012 - 1:18 pm | Permalink


    “Miscegenation isn’t really that big of a problem for white survival”

    Some whites seem to need time-lapse photography to see the obvious.*

    Is there anyone reading this who doesn’t know some “white” family that already has mixed-race children in it? We are roughly in the stage that Amerindians in Mexico were several hundred years ago shortly after the Spaniards arrived. Several hundred years later their numbers are severely reduced, and the word “Mexican” generally refers to a member of the predominant mixed mestizo population.

    Birthrates go up and go down for various reasons, and neither spikes nor declines should be regarded as permanent. If our birthrate begins to climb, flooding us and forcing our assimilation with non-whites would still blend us out of existence and would be genocide.

    (Japan has a low birth rate also, but Japan isn’t being flooded with non-Japanese and forced by law to assimilate with them and be blended out of existence).

    Flooding and forced assimilation is genocide! It’s genocide in Tibet, and it’s genocide in white homelands!

    * ”Black-White Kids Surge in South Where Mixed Unions Once Banned”

  161. Gary John's Gravatar Gary John
    October 18, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    We must stop trying to be too individualistic. Differences lead to more conflict.

    And we must establish an international intellectual gentile alliance to counter the global power of Jewish extremists. All gentile races need to combine their efforts to defeat the Jew. Whites cannot do it on their own strength. We don’t have the numbers or power to fight alone.

    Every nation and group of people are potential Jewish extremist victims.

  162. Huntelaar's Gravatar Huntelaar
    October 18, 2012 - 12:50 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    Miscegenation isn’t really that big of a problem for white survival, although it is a problem. The big problem is very low white birthrates.

  163. October 18, 2012 - 12:50 pm | Permalink

    (my preceding post continued)

    The point is not simply that we are losing our homelands! (Why must white advocates always stop short of the issue?)

    The point is that without homelands in which to preserve ourselves, our race will perish!

    Anti-whites have created (among their many other illusions) the illusion that they favor “mixing races.” That phrase is an outright lie! They don’t favor any such thing! What anti-whites favor is the genocide of whites by blending us out of existence in all white homelands. Anti-whites are perfectly content that once that has been done, the races that were used to do it will still be preserved in their homelands!

  164. peppermint's Gravatar peppermint
    October 18, 2012 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Anti-Whites demand Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody; anyone who disagrees with this genocidal agenda is ‘racist’. Anti-racist is nothing but a code word for anti-White.

    The anti-Whites lose as soon as enough Whites are no longer afraid of the word ‘racist’.

    The anti-White media is overplaying its hand by throwing that word around so much. Random schoolteachers think that peanut butter sandwiches are racist, and the media thinks the words “Chicago” and “apartments” are racist.

    Those Whites who are pro-White can help win by calling the anti-Whites anti-Whites.

  165. October 18, 2012 - 12:28 pm | Permalink

    “The stakes are high, nothing less than possession of North America and, in the longer term, the retention of homelands for Western peoples in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, and South America.”

    All our homelands are being flooded with non-whites with whom we’re forced by law to integrate so as to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry and be blended out of existence.

    This successful program of world-wide white genocide that’s being carried out by anti-whites is the message we must disseminate to all whites.

    A message that states anything less only insists futilely that white genocide be carried out with greater comfort for its victims.

  166. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 18, 2012 - 12:14 pm | Permalink

    The Jews are whiners. If a newspaper, or TV station runs something the Jews don’t like they call the editor or the station manager and whine. A high pitched shrill Jew whine. LOL.

    This is one reason editors, are so gun shy of the Jews. They have been conditioned by Jew whining. Who in their right mind wants to listen to a Jew whine in their ear about some story or news report? Not too many. The same Jews will also whine to the advertisers if necessary to get the editors attention.

    White people need to learn how to whine to editors & publishers.

    The demographics of TOO are about 70% White college graduate. I’m sure that any White college graduate here could be a first class whiner. Try creative whining as a hobby—you are a college grad use your education for a good purpose.

    There are all sorts of sources about tricks & jokes journalists used to play on each other. Don’t forget that either.

  167. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 18, 2012 - 11:58 am | Permalink

    The great man theory is silly. Ability is nothing without opportunity.

  168. norman S's Gravatar norman S
    October 18, 2012 - 11:57 am | Permalink

    The MSM has done a great job at brainwashing the population that any one who supports white interests is really a Klan member ready to lynch blacks. Tell a lie long enough and many will believe it.

  169. thm's Gravatar thm
    October 18, 2012 - 11:43 am | Permalink

    Interesting and possibly hopeful development:

    US Jews cancel talks with Protestants over Israel

  170. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    October 18, 2012 - 11:35 am | Permalink

    Probably the greatest use of tenure is how Dr. MacDonald described an obligation to use the platform for white advocacy. I wonder if tenure will come under greater attack if more advocates for white nationalism use it to help the intellectual movement along?

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