Petliura and the Pogroms in Interwar Ukraine, Part 1

Thomas Jones

The fall of the Romanov dynasty saw Russia descend into chaos and even as the First World War was raging, yet more conflicts would spring up. In Ukraine, the violent confusion that came with the end of the Romanov’s empire has become particularly controversial because of the impact it had upon Jewry living there. One figure in particular is contentious, Symon Petliura, who for much of the last century has been vilified as a murderer of Jews. His death and its aftermath have had an impact not only in Ukraine but elsewhere in Europe, particularly France, where the trial of his Jewish assassin would have effects still felt to this day.

Symon Petliura

After the first Russian revolution ended the monarchy, leading members of the Ukrainian intelligentsia came together to form the Central Rada. The Rada was not initially in favour of independence, but began acting almost immediately as if they were an independent government. With the rise of the Bolsheviks, however, they would proclaim an independent Ukrainian People’s Republic. The leader of this new entity was the historian and socialist Mykhailo Hrushevsky. Indeed, all the members of the Rada were socialist to some degree or another, including Symon Petliura. The first incarnation of the Ukrainian People’s Republic would prove short-lived thanks to the Bolsheviks, who, in January of 1918 successfully captured Kiev. With the help of the German and Austro-Hungarian armies, the Bolsheviks were driven out shortly thereafter. However, instead of the Rada the new Ukrainian government was that of the conservative Pavlo Skoropadskyi. He was proclaimed Hetman, but his Hetmanate did not last the year. His government was overthrown by the Directory, which was led by Volodymyr Vynnychenko, Fedir Shvets, Andrii Makarenko and Symon Petliura. The Directory was in many ways a continuation of the Central Rada as both were socialist, both claimed leadership of a People’s Republic and many of the leading figures in the Directory, like Petliura, had been part of the Central Rada in 1917.

Even after the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and the end of the Great War in Eastern Europe, conflict raged on. The Bolsheviks saw their chance to once again strike at Ukraine, but they were not the only rivals the Directory had to face. So-called White armies  — conservative forces loyal to an autocratic Russia of some description, often monarchist but not exclusively — and even an army of   led by the Ukrainian Nestor Makhno were also vying for control of Ukraine.

Certain Cossack hosts like the Kuban and Don also attempted to form their own states, but unlike the Ukrainian People’s Republic, these were generally in alliance with or at least sympathetic to the White movement. Attempts were also made to create Ukrainian states in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire[i] of which the most important of these was the (ZUNR) which had an uneasy relationship with the Ukrainian People’s Republic. Though both were heavily influenced by socialist thought, the ZUNR was more inclined towards less radical social democratic teachings. ZUNR was also under assault although in its case the threat was from Poland.

In February 1919 Petliura had became the leader of the Directory and in this capacity, he tried his best to unify the republics and to focus on the Bolsheviks, as he correctly saw that they were the gravest threat. As such Petliura sought an alliance with the Poles as they were also threatened by Bolshevik incursions. However, given the long history of Polish-Ukrainian animosity and the fact that at this time ZUNR was at war with Poland, they thought otherwise. For them, Poland was the greatest threat. Another point of contention was the more radical socialism of the Directory which bred distrust in ZUNR about how trustworthy their kinsmen to the east really were.

Petliura had also attempted to win support from the French who had forces stationed in Odessa, but they refused to help him as they had ties to the forces of the general  .[ii] Although, French support probably would not have been all that effective, as they do not seem to have done much for Denikin. It turned out that the end of the Hetmanate meant an end to foreign backing of Ukrainian nationalists until April of 1920, when a treaty was signed between Petliura and the Poles which saw them officially become allies. But by this time, it was too late. The Poles were able to snatch victory out of the jaws of defeat, but unfortunately for the Directory, the Polish victory only secured Poland’s independence as by this time Ukraine had been completely overrun by the Red Army.[iii] As such Petliura was forced to leave and ended up in France, where, on May 25th 1926 he was shot to death in broad daylight by a Jewish anarchist named Sholom Schwartzbard.

Schwartzbard’s reasoning for killing Petliura was that it was revenge for the treatment of Jews in Ukraine during the chaotic days of 1918 —20. Schwartzbard may very well have been a Soviet agent and certainly that is what the prosecution set out to prove. The defense rested their case on pulling at the heart strings of the court by bringing up cases of pogroms that had happened in Ukraine, none of which could be connected to Petliura, but that did not matter. At the trial, the defense did not actually seek to prove that Petliura had been responsible for any pogroms, but simply that they had taken place. Evidently this was enough for Schwartzbard to be acquitted.[iv] The defense was helped by the fact that in France the intelligentsia was very much Philo-Semitic and French society in general had been shamed by the Dreyfus Affair, enough to decide that this time they would not turn against a Jewish defendant. Moreover, prior to Petliura’s murder, the international press had largely denigrated the man, casting him as some horrid bigot who purposely went around targeting Jews. The truth, however, is far different.

During the anarchic period in which the Directory existed, the Jewish population was subject to acts of violent persecution. The exact number of people who died from this is debatable. One estimate is that in 1918–19 some 1,236 pogroms took place in Ukrainian provinces with around 40% taking place in the area controlled by the Directory.[v] Orest Subtelny states that 1919–20 saw the murder of 35,000–50,000 Jews.[vi] Soviet Jewish organizations claimed in 1920 that 150,000 Jews were killed by the actions of Ukrainians and Poles.[vii] Given the source for this number I’d say one has every right to be sceptical. One important point to note is that it was not just forces loyal to Petliura that went after Jews but also White armies and perhaps even Makhno’s forces as well. As we will see, the Directory and its predecessor were very much Philo-Semitic,[viii] but before I discuss that, I think it is important to make a few points regarding the targeting of Jews during this time.

As if often the case with such outbreaks of anti-Jewish violence, the prevailing narrative is that it was for no reason; a scapegoat was needed and Jews always just happen to be that scapegoat. Reality, of course, is far different. Its important to note that there had been a long history of animosity between Jews and Ukrainians largely stemming from the high-handed treatment of the latter by the former. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries Ukrainian revolts against their Polish rulers saw violence inflicted upon the Jews as a result of their attitudes to Ukrainians and the privileged position in society they held.[ix] Animosity between Jews and Ukrainians, then, was not something recent or contrived for political expediency, but was something which had existed for centuries. It was also not simply the case of perpetual Jewish innocence and Ukrainian villainy.

According to Orest Subtelny, attacks on Jews by White forces were more systematic than those of other armies.[x] Given the heavy presence of Jews in the Bolshevik movement and other socialist movements that were firmly against the Russian Empire (Subtelny also notes that the bulk of Jews in Ukraine at least, were supporters of the Mensheviks; however, he also notes that most prominent Bolsheviks and in particular Chekists and tax officials in charge of collecting taxes and grain were Jews — Denikin’s chief propagandist, Vasilli Shulgin, called Jews ‘executioners’ due to their involvement in the murderous Cheka.[xi]) It is no surprise that anti-Semitism was higher among the White movement which was a successor to the fallen empire. I suspect Ukrainian anti-Semitism was not as systematic or structured given that the Ukrainians weren’t as devoted to the old system which many Jews were actively destroying. During this time, there were many examples of the active role Jews were playing in militant, revolutionary socialist movements throughout Europe which must have helped determine the violent events in Ukraine. In Hungary and Bavaria in 1919, Jewish-led communist groups had briefly taken over, and during their short stints in power they had unleashed a Red Terror upon their subjects. In the case of Hungary, the terror was lead by a militia known as ‘Lenin’s Boys.’ Regular readers will already be aware of how Jewish the Russian Bolsheviks were, especially among the lower echelons of the Bolshevik organization, in particular the Cheka. (For example, the man responsible for the execution of the royal family was the Jewish Chekist Yakov Yurovsky.) And of course, many members of the higher ranks of Bolsheviks were Jews — Yakov Sverdlov, for example, or Karl Radek, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev, and Leon Trotsky. Because of perceptions of anti-Jewish pogroms and discrimination, international Jewry as a whole, seemed to be against the traditional society of the Russian Empire. A good example was he leading Jewish-American banker, businessman and notorious Russophobe, Jacob Shiff. Anti-Semitism was not something made up in the name of finding scapegoats.

In the case of the outbreaks of violence by soldiers loyal to the Directory it is important to note that the bulk of them were peasants — the same people who had also been the most negatively impacted by the economic activities of Jews in the days of Polish rule. The refusal of organized Jewry to support independence undoubtedly also played a role:

The Ukrainians viewed the Jewish concern for a ‘one and indivisible Russia’ with suspicion; it appeared to them as a lack of regard for the Ukraine despite the privileges the country gave them. The Jews, on the other hand, apprehensive of the growing national consciousness of the Ukrainian masses, remained either neutral during the initial phase of the Russo-Ukrainian struggle or eventually, in many cases, moved to the side of the enemies of Ukrainian statehood.[xii]

Alexandr Solzhenitsyn  also noted that Jews were often the targets not so much because of their ethnicity but because they happened to be the most promising targets. They were generally wealthier than the peasant soldiers fighting in the civil war, so it made the most sense to target them. The influence of alcohol is yet another factor which needs to be remembered. Soldiers fighting for the Whites, Ukrainian People’s Republic and Makhno were often undisciplined and easily succumbed to drunken depravity. All armies engaged in these hostilities found it hard to maintain discipline and it would seem that this was especially true for Directory forces whose generals often acted as if they were independent war lords.

On a side note I think it worth mentioning that as is often the case with such outbreaks of ethnic cleansing, it was not simply a case of everyone targeting Jews and Jews alone. In particular, consider the Germans. During World War I, the Russian government had deported Germans living in Volhynia for fear of them becoming a fifth column, but it was during 1919 that the worst acts of violence were committed against them. Many Germans were Mennonites and their prosperous communities, which were pacifist, were the preferred targets. There were 750,000 Germans in Dneiper Ukraine in 1914 but as a result of the deportations and later the attacks on their communities which saw them either killed or forced to flee, the number of Germans was reduced to 514,000 in 1926.[xiii]  In regards to the Mennonites, attacks on them, which were largely from Makhno’s anarchist army, became so bad that they actually abandoned their pacifism and took up arms in self-defence.[xiv]

Despite all the negative portrayals of Petliura and his associates, at that time especially, Ukrainian nationalists had gone out of their way to provide representation for non-Ukrainians and Jews in particular. When the Central Rada was formed, it took control  — or at least claimed sovereignty over  — a mostly homogenous region, at least in the countryside. The rural portions of their new state were largely Ukrainian although there were areas in which Ukrainians were a minority. As for the cities, these were largely non-Ukrainian in make-up, mostly inhabited by Jews, Russians and Poles — groups which the Rada felt had to be won over just as much as their fellow Ukrainians. Given this, laws were passed with the well-being of non-Ukrainians in mind. Jews, like other minorities, were against independence for Ukraine. The Rada went out of its way to encourage participation of minorities in the body politic and to get them to support the government. Their nationality policies were greatly influenced by Otto Bauer  — who was Jewish. National-personal autonomy was granted to various minorities, ensuring that they could speak their language, follow their religion and identify as they wished anywhere in Ukraine. However, this autonomy was only provided to Russians, Poles and Jews. Tatars, Greeks, Romanians, Germans and other minority groups were not given the same rights.[xv] Russians, Poles and Jews were to be represented in the executive branch of government via their chosen representatives who were to hold the position of Under-Secretaries. These Under-Secretaries in turn enjoyed fully equality with the General Secretary for the Nationalities in the area of their jurisdiction. Article 20 of the 1917 constitution also stated that all laws, administrative rules and decisions were to be published not only in Ukrainian, but in Russian, Yiddish and Polish as well.[xvi] Jews were allowed to establish their own schools and plans were made to set up kahals (Jewish self-governing communities) which the Tsarist government had done away with in 1844.[xvii] This shows the influence and power the Jews held  — as well as Russians and Poles although this is more obvious given the history of the region.

Despite all this goodwill, no Jewish party supported independence when the People’s Republic held a vote on the matter. When the Hetmanate came into being, these liberal laws were done away with, but were brought back by the Directory. Petliura, it should be mentioned was very much a Philo-Semite. As such, he and his colleagues readily accepted the suggestion by Solomon Goldelman (a professor and former member of the Central Rada and one of the few prominent Jews who actually supported Ukrainian statehood) that the nationalities law be reinstated. This support for the Jews was not something which had been developed for cynical political reasons, however, because even when he was a boy Petliura was Philo-Semitic. He was nicknamed the ‘Jewish father’ at school because of how readily he came to their defense.[xviii] During the first attempt at revolution in the Russian Empire, in 1905, Petliura again showed his pro-Jewish credentials when he spoke out in favor of granting Jews full access to education as other groups and an end to the Pale of Settlement.[xix]  Similar discriminatory laws regarding Jews and education were overturned in Romania and elsewhere, only for Jews to become heavily disproportionately represented, which in turn only fueled resentment towards them.

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[i]One of which was proclaimed just prior to the outbreak of World War II, but it lasted only one day

[ii]OS 362

[iii]The ZUNR was also destroyed, in its case by Poland. Although Ukrainians did not have to suffer mass slaughter and forced starvation in Poland, they still had to endure Polonization policies which would set the stage for further Polish-Ukrainian bloodshed in the 1940s-50s.

[iv]After his acquittal, Schwartzbard was free to travel the world and live out the rest of his life in peace. His remains were eventually brought to Israel where evidently, there are streets named after him.

[v]George O. Liber, Total Wars and the Making of Modern Ukraine, 1914-1954, (University of Toronto Press, Toronto, 2016), 70

[vi]Orest Subtelny, Ukraine A History, (University of Toronto Press, Toronto, 1988, 4th ed. 2009), 363

[vii]George O. Liber, 70

[viii]The ZUNR was as well

[ix]On a side note I think it worth mentioning that Khmelnytsky’s Rebellion had a major impact on the development of a millenarian Jewish movement in the Ottoman Empire led by one Sabbatai Sevi. He claimed to be the messiah and believed that the Jews would one day conquer the world; albeit bloodlessly. The sultan would become his servant and the “uncircumsized nations” of the world would be slaves to Jews; trembling in fear “of what the Jew will command.” (John Freely, The Lost Messiah: In Search of the Mystical Rabbi Sabbatai Sevi, (The Overlook Press, Woodstock & New York, NY, 2001), 68). He ran afoul of the established Jewish leadership by openly flaunting Jewish customs and traditions and more than likely had his followers engage in sexual orgies (John Freely, 196). Sabbatai’s cult would in turn go on to influence the rise of Frankism in Central Europe. He and many of his followers were eventually made to convert to Islam and their relatives exist today in the form of the shadowy Dönmeh community  — in many ways an Islamic version of conversos  — which has included high-ranking members of Turkish society like Djavid Bey, a leading member of the Committee of Union and Progress.

[x]Orest Subtelny, 363

[xi]Ibid, 374

[xii]Taras Hunczak, ‘A Reappraisal of Symon Petliura and Ukrainian-Jewish Relations, 1917-1921’, Jewish Social Studies Vol. 31, No. 3 (Jul., 1969), pp. 163-183, 168

[xiii]Paul Robert Magocsi, A History of Ukraine, (University of Toronto Press, Toronto, 1996), 508

[xiv]Ibid, 509

[xv]Ibid, 504

[xvi]Taras Hunczak, 165

[xvii]Paul Robert Magocsi, 504

[xviii]Taras Hunczak, 170

[xix]Ibid, 171


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27 Comments to "Petliura and the Pogroms in Interwar Ukraine, Part 1"

  1. Nick Dean's Gravatar Nick Dean
    September 27, 2017 - 2:35 pm | Permalink

    This was not written by a Welshman, Thomas Jones is a pseudonym. Well enough. But perhaps the author should reveal his own background? This is a race and nation blog, after all. This would provide a fuller picture, definitely.

  2. September 27, 2017 - 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Historically, Russian Christian majority has always been good to country’s Jewish minority. Stalin created the first autonomous Jewish state in Soviet Union in 1934.

    But Jewish payback was horrible. Harvard historian professor Niall Ferguson in his highly praised 2006 book, The War of the World, claimed that some of the greatest mass murderers of modern times were Jewish. Ferguson’s research, however, centered on the Bolshevik revolution and the Lenin and Stalin era during which Jewish elites in the Russian government and Bolshevik terrorist organs like Cheka, GPU, NKVD and KGB, sent over 100 million Christian and Muslim communities to death camps or rooted out of their native homelands.

    On May 6, 2014, the deputy head of Dnipropetrovsk, B. Filatov and Ukrainian oligarch Kolomoyski announced a plan to revive the old Jewish-Khazarian empire in Ukraine. Kolomoyski’s Jewish buddy Petro Poroshenko is the current president of Ukraine.

    Jews, who make only 0.2% of Ukraine’s total population, have total monopoly over country’s government, media and finance. In 2005, professor Vasyl Yaremenko in an article, entitled ‘Jews in Ukraine today: reality without myths’, wrote: “Ukrainians need to know that the mass media is completely in the hands of Jews, and everything that we watch or read is the product of Jewish ideology…”

    • Charles Frey's Gravatar Charles Frey
      September 29, 2017 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

      Rehmat, think, at the latest by now, about the juxtaposition of your first two sentences.

      Since the Ukraine appears to be your area of special interest, why don’t you treat us to a comprehensive comment regarding that gangster Kolomoyski: his closeness to the Governor of Dnipropetrovsk, the very location of Air Traffic Control which re-routed MH 17 fifteen miles north of its usual flight path; belonging to Malaysia, whose PM Dr. Mahatdir Mohammad had consequentially called Soros a dirty little Jewish speculator in Hong Kong. As well as the collapse of Kolomoysky’s Privatbank with enormous losses incurred by the ordinary Ukrainian working stiff; as well as his financing units of the Ukrainian Army and their deployments and commissioning the murder of his opponents in Odessa.

      You may well want to look at an Israeli “businessman”, exceedingly busy on the Maidan, who went by the codename “Delta” and was a member of an elite Israeli unit. One of several ex Israeli officers there at the time, leading sizeable local revolutionary units [ by their noses] shooting their own in the back. For a man of his caliber, simple child’s play to bring down an airliner, with a ” Russian ” Bug missile of undetermined provenance.

      Following the recommendation of a commenter here, ca. six months ago, I viewed some of the videos of Kolomoyski, giving millions of “dollars” for Jewish charities and cohesion in a, as usual, opulent dining room setting, in stark contrast to the described desperation of the average Ukrainian. He called Dnipropetrovsk our Ukrainian home; which lends credence to your comment regarding a formal Khazaria.

      It’s all there. Please compile it for us, since in all likelihood you are proficient in Ukrainian. To placate the Moderator, let’s remember, that the beset Ukrainians are as close to kin as we can hope for: and damned good fighters. We want them – and they reject ” fuck the EU ” Nuland, along with her avowed $ 5 billion in US, neocon Jewish subversion money.

  3. September 28, 2017 - 9:13 am | Permalink

    In February 2016, despite protests from Moscow, Ukrainian government sent Muslim Crimean Tatar singer Susana Jamaldinova , known as Jamala, to represent her country at the” Eurovision Song Contest” in Stockholm, Sweden.

    Her song, “1944”, won the first prize.

    The song is about the plight of 238,000 Muslim Crimean Tartars expelled from their home in Southern Ukraine by Russian mass-killer Josef Stalin. Nearly 50% of them died during deportation. Today, Crimea is mostly populated by ethnic Russian Christians and Jews.


    (Mod. Note: “Rehmat”, please note that TOO is about “White Identity, Interests and Culture”. It’s NOT about “Jewish” or “Muslim” identity, interests and culture, except to the extent they impact White Identity, Interests and Culture. Pay attention to this, and craft your comments accordingly, or you will not see any of your comments here again.)

  4. Polonia Restituta's Gravatar Polonia Restituta
    September 28, 2017 - 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Re: “Although Ukrainians did not have to suffer mass slaughter and forced starvation in Poland, they still had to endure Polonization policies which would set the stage for further Polish-Ukrainian bloodshed in the 1940s-50s”

    Polish-Ukrainian bloodshed in this case is a misnomer. It was purely onesided genocide by sadistic Ukrainan-chauvinist maniacs of up to 200.000 Polish peasants (as well as Czechs, Hungarians, Romanians and Jews) and it was called the Volhynian Genocide:

    • Charles Frey's Gravatar Charles Frey
      September 28, 2017 - 8:46 pm | Permalink

      You sound as if there were even a single nation in Europe, that doesn’t have shit on its stick.

      Rather than remembering ‘ sadistic, chauvinistic maniacal neighbors ‘, which covers almost everyone in Europe, at one time or another, we had better concentrate on our communal problem for today and tomorrow.

      • September 29, 2017 - 11:56 am | Permalink

        We had better also concentrate on who funded and armed and chose the various groups, rather than treating armed killers as though they made their own arms.

  5. Karen T's Gravatar Karen T
    September 28, 2017 - 4:05 pm | Permalink

    “In the 1500’s when the Jewish centre was set up in Poland , having left Spain, a Jewish population of millions came into being there.” (Dr.Josef Kastein)
    “Such was the constitution of the Jewish state, planted on foreign soil…it had its own Jewish law, its own priesthood, its own schools, its own social structures and its own representatives in the Polish government. (Dr. Josef Kastein). One can see why the native Poles were offended by Jewish privilege and high-handedness.
    When Poland was partitioned in 1772 the Jews came under Russian rule and soon thereafter the twin towers of Communism and Zionism were born, slithering their way into Russia. No disrespect to Thomas Jones but International Jewry as a whole seemed to be against the traditional society of the Russian Empire, as they seem to be against all traditional Gentile Empires, not “because of perceptions of anti-Jewish pogroms and discrimination” although it’s certain they existed given native resentment against Jewish privilege and high-handedness, but because like all Empires they stood in their way of conquest.
    “Murder in the Ukraine 1919 -20 was 35,000 to 50,000 Jews.” Sad, I’m sure many of these unfortunate Jews were good people. Jewry had its revenge. The holodomor murdered 7 to 10 MILLION Ukrainians, many of which were good people.

    • Charles Frey's Gravatar Charles Frey
      September 29, 2017 - 11:22 am | Permalink

      01 Karen, was Poland not also partitioned into non-existence in 1774 and 1775, whereby your aptly-named ‘ Twin Towers slithered ‘ into Prussia and the Habsburg Empire as well ?

      [ My father told me, that his more than literate father repeatedly wrote letters to the Kaiser on behalf of illiterate Silesian small peasant-owners, about to lose their Grund und Boden to Jewish rabble moneylenders. Not unlike Goldman Sachs, [ whose Blankfein should require a license for his visage, bereft of anything good ] et. al, in 2009 and indeed thereafter; perpetuated by obscene dimensions of lobbying ‘the Peoples’ so-called representatives and their purposeful sieve laws ].

      02 ” … but because like all Empires they stood in their way of conquest “, is an excellent encapsulation of a great number of subsidiary thoughts based on demonstrable fact.

      03 Unwittingly and anachronistically, Dr Kastein wrote of the Jewish Communities’ machinations across the US, and the world. Especially in those well-known enclaves.

      A Jewish Speaker of the NY House of Representatives, funded a professor at Columbia to research mesothelioma with public money. The afflicted flocked to him and were soon referred to a Jewish law firm to sue their former employers. Said firm, in the justice business, kicked back hundreds of thousands to the Speaker.

      ” The RUSSIAN Mafia ” is a common reference. Yet we are encouraged to forget, that it was primarily Russian Jews, because of their “well-known disadvantaged and persecuted position in Russia “, who were admitted to the US [and Germany] on visa waivers.

      Apparently the chain-letter reaching a majority of Russian Jews at home, as published by Haaretz, exhorting them to grab all well-paying jobs, but in particular those giving them control over a broader area, was ineffectual. Too absurd. The endless benefits for them lie elsewhere.

      04 A brief You Tube depicts a corpulent, $ 820,00 plus benefits per annum Abe Foxman, as then Director of the ADL hectoring a Minister of the Ukrainian Government in Kiev.
      [Paraphrased] ” There can be little advantage for the
      Ukraine and the Jewish people if the Holocaust and the
      Holodomor were to be relativized ” .

      Translated from the Jewish phraseology: ” I have CNN, State, the IMF, the World Bank, Goldman Sachs, Brussels, London, Paris and Berlin on my speed-dial. And the Pentagon is listed in my local White Pages “.

      A female, Jewish member of fat Abe’s retinue, interviewed while being handed her coat by her anxious husband, says to the filming interviewer: ” Yes, we Jews are good at playing the guilt card ! ”

      Why should our visceral disgust be any less than that experienced over the centuries by our ancestors ? No amount of money or institutional arrangements and special anti-Semitism commissars can even diminish anti Semitism. Only the Jews themselves can do that: commencing with the Likud and the Republikuds.

  6. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    September 28, 2017 - 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Tangential to the article, I have begun to wonder about Dreyfus’ innocence.

    • Charles Frey's Gravatar Charles Frey
      September 29, 2017 - 11:42 am | Permalink

      I wish you success in your wonderment. If you reach a conclusion you will then require another 20 years, at 24/7, to discern what happened during the last year alone; given the deluge of untreated sewage spilled over our heads by the Real Housewives of CNN [ not limited to the female gender ].

      • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
        September 30, 2017 - 11:12 am | Permalink

        Dear Charles,

        I am drawing a senior-style blank as to the name of the notorious French law that both criminalizes open expression of the opinion that Dreyfus was actually guilty and, in anticipation of Holocaust-denial legislation to come, prohibits any further investigation of the case that might even point in the “guilty as charged and convicted” direction.

        As four hours of brain- and Internet-racking have got me nowhere, can you help a comrade in arms and remind me of the law’s name?

        • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
          October 1, 2017 - 3:32 am | Permalink

          The name isn’t specified, but even the date, 24th December, 1900, raises suspicions. How many Holocaust laws have been passed near holidays, when both Houses are almost empty?

        • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
          October 1, 2017 - 3:46 am | Permalink

          I don’t know the name, but it was passed on 24 December, 1900. Nice timing with empty benches and all. Here’s an amusing paper on it:

          • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
            October 1, 2017 - 4:27 pm | Permalink

            Thanks, T. I asked Charles specifically because he had referred to it by name six months ago or so. Oddly, I too recalled the name then, but now …

            What a depressing document you’ve linked to! How many of its CIA insider readers, I wonder, realize that they are being propagandized rather than informed? The matter-of-fact reference on the file’s page 27 to the Leo Franks case as an injustice is case-closed evidence for (((undue influence))).

          • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
            October 1, 2017 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

            Likewise, the Holocaust denial law (Gayssot Act) was passed on July 13, 1990. The day before the Bastille Day national holiday. Good timing, with the people distracted? One wonders.

          • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
            October 1, 2017 - 7:01 pm | Permalink

            I know zip about Kabbalah, but in Italy denying the 6 million will get you 6 years jail and a 6,000 Euro fine. 6,6,6, they sure like that number.

          • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
            October 1, 2017 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

            Comforting indeed that the CIA is super partes.

        • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
          October 2, 2017 - 1:19 am | Permalink

          Ironically, a bill to criminalize the Roman salute (and fascist memorabilia, increasingly popular) has passed Italy’s lower House and awaits the Senate’s consideration.

        • Charles Frey's Gravatar Charles Frey
          October 4, 2017 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

          Dear Pierre. Please forgive my tardiness: a major heating-plumbing crisis deprived me of the pleasure of visiting here for a few days.

          Regrettably, I too don’t remember the answer to your question – I didn’t realize senior-moments could be projected – even ” virtually “, as you would put it.

          The Army considered the kaleidoscopic regime a joke, and vice-versa: with no love lost by either.

          Interestingly Herzl was a journalist there from the beginning of the affair, which unquestionably hastened his decision to stage the First Zionist Congress in Basel in ’97.

          Dreyfus came from the nationally-mixed Alsace and was seen as a German in addition to being a Jew. A number of Alsacean-German Protestants came to his defense, which didn’t help.

          As I would deem myself entitled to complete justice in any undertaking against me, I cannot do otherwise with Dreyfus. Considering everything, I deem him innocent: though a French historian Douin [?] postulates the entire affair as a false-flag in order to attack those adhering to the ‘ancien regime ‘, foremost anti-Semites and the Church.

          The Republic sent him to Devil’s Island, which is a tad further and hotter than the two islands Napoleon enjoyed, until the British terminally plied N with arsenic, [ as demonstrated by his hair analysis ].

          By contrast, D was exonerated, promoted and made a Knight of the Legion of Honor. In my ‘expert’ opinion, the most reliable way to reach a conclusion in this welter of mysteries and personages, lending themselves to manipulations multiple times at every way-station, is to flip a coin.

    • September 29, 2017 - 11:57 am | Permalink

      There is what looks like a very good article on Dreyfus in saying in brief the whole issue was a media false flag.

      • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
        October 2, 2017 - 1:31 am | Permalink

        I haven’t read Mathis’ article (I read his paper on the Manson band and it made some good points), but overall, he’s unreliable. No mention of the Holocaust or 9/11 in his oeuvre. To boot, read this:

    • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
      September 30, 2017 - 11:05 am | Permalink

      Delighted to learn this, Trenchant!

      You may or may not have discovered that the recent (2012) Piers Paul Read book on the Dreyfus affair has met with anything but full-throated acclaim. I haven’t read it, but I see no reason to disbelieve those who say that Read doesn’t wander far from the present dogmatic view that Dreyfus was railroaded.

      In the view of (((some))), however, Read does something damn near as bad: in pointing to enormous Jewish power in the Third Republic, he actively discounts “anti-Semitism” as the basis for the prosecution and suggests that the prosecution went forward despite weighty Jewish influence. I am told, too, that he tastelessly points out that the huge bulk of the Dreyfusards were Jews and their epigones—inter alia, Zola, the erstwhile pornographer, now in the Panthéon—and that the anti-Dreyfusards were Catholics, royalists, and other openly avowed enemies of the Third Republic.

      There is also the fact that to this day, only one-third of the now-Establishment Dreyfusard narrative ever deals with the dubious Dreyfus himself, whereas the remaining two-thirds of the narrative encompasses scurrilities aimed at French Catholicism and at anyone, past or present, who has exhibited awareness of the eternal Jewish grift. This is what our masters invariably refer to as fearless and unbiased reporting of a crime of historic proportions.

      • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
        September 30, 2017 - 10:43 pm | Permalink

        Thanks. It’s a murky story, but it’s the very dynamic you suggested that makes me curious. These people have form.

      • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
        October 2, 2017 - 5:59 pm | Permalink

        I don’t know how you feel about Yeager, but this podcast was quite good.

        • Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
          October 3, 2017 - 7:55 am | Permalink

          Yes, I stumbled across this interview a few weeks ago; I agree it was good. Given CY’s track record, however, not least her unappetizing comments here at TOO, I consider this both an instance of Broken Clock Syndrome and a reminder that insight has a way of turning up in unexpected places.

  7. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 1, 2017 - 3:49 am | Permalink

    The name I do not know, but it was passed on 24 December, 1900. Interesting, I had a CIA paper to post, but it won’t allow the link to be copied. (“The Dreyfus Affair: Enduring CI Lessons”).

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