Does Jewish financial misbehavior have anything to do with being Jewish?

As expected, the fraud charges brought against Goldman Sachs by the SEC and now the Senate hearings are producing a lot of anxiety in Jewish quarters. Back in January, Michael Kinsley wrote an article telling us how to think about the Jewish angle in the financial meltdown (“How to Think About: Jewish Bankers”). The question for Kinsley isn’t whether negative qualities of Jewish bankers or the bad behavior of Jewish firms like Goldman have anything to do with being Jewish.

The question is whether anyone who criticizes Goldman is an anti-Semite:

Because Goldman is thought of as a “Jewish” firm, and because it dominates the financial industry, criticism of Goldman, or of bankers generally, is often accused of being anti-Semitic. Commentators including Rush Limbaugh and Maureen Dowd have been so accused. When, if ever, are such accusations fair?”

So Kinsley passes his Geiger Counter over non-Jews like Limbaugh and Dowd and passes judgment on their moral worthiness. Any link between Jewishness and misbehavior is automatically out of bounds for serious discussion: “Certainly any explicit suggestion that Goldman’s alleged misbehavior and its Jewishness are related in any way is anti-Semitic.”

This statement draws on a general reluctance to ascribe negative traits as being reasonably associated with a certain group. But this can easily be seen to be just another example of political-correctness think. What if indeed a particular group is more likely to engage in some sort of bad behavior? For example, J. Philippe Rushton and Glayde Whitney have claimed on the basis of a rather powerful theory and a considerable amount of data that Blacks are prone to criminality and this is true wherever there are Blacks — whether in Africa, North America, South America, or the Caribbean.

If indeed that is true or at least reasonable, then it would also be reasonable to say being Black contributes to the likelihood that a certain group of Blacks are criminals — that a considerable part of the explanation for the criminality of these particular Blacks stems from their group membership. It would certainly not imply that all Blacks or even anywhere near all Blacks are criminals. Just that Blacks are more likely than other groups to be involved in certain kinds of crime — Rushton and Whitney would argue for a strong role of their common genetic ancestry.

Or take a presumably benign example: It’s well known that the Ashkenazi Jewish mean IQ higher than the European mean. If then one finds that Jews are highly overrepresented in a particular high-IQ occupation, say among mathematicians, then it is certainly reasonable to explain this as partly due to the general traits of the group, as writers ranging from Charles Murray, Henry Harpending and Greg Cochran, and I have argued

Can such an argument be made Jewish involvement in financial scandals has something to do with being Jewish? Back in the 1980s a major financial scandal revolved around Michael Milken. Much of the discussion of the Jewish role in this financial scandal centered around the book Den of Thieves by James B. Stewart. Jewish activist Alan Dershowitz called Den of Thievesan “anti-Semitic screed” and attacked a review by Michael M. Thomas in the New York Times Book Review because of his “gratuitous descriptions by religious stereotypes.”  Thomas’s review contained the following passage:

James B. Stewart . . . charts the way through a virtual solar system of peculation, past planets large and small, from a metaphorical Mercury representing the penny-ante takings of Dennis B. Levine’s small fry, past the middling ($10 million in inside-trading profits) Mars of Mr. Levine himself, along the multiple rings of Saturn — Ivan F. Boesky, his confederate Martin A. Siegel of Kidder, Peabody, and Mr. Siegel’s confederate Robert Freeman of Goldman, Sachs — and finally back to great Jupiter: Michael R. Milken, the greedy billion-dollar junk-bond kingdom in which some of the nation’s greatest names in industry and finance would find themselves entrapped and corrupted.

Thomas was attacked as an anti-Semite simply for mentioning so many Jewish names all in one paragraph. His defense was to note that “If I point out that nine out of 10 people involved in street crimes are black, that’s an interesting sociological observation. If I point out that nine out of 10 people involved in securities indictments are Jewish, that is an anti-Semitic slur. I cannot sort out the difference. . . .”

I can’t sort out the difference either. And once again, the current financial meltdown has revealed a large role for Jewish companies and Jewish money managers who engineered the meltdown and profited handsomely from it.

Kinsley acknowledges that Jews predominate on Wall St. and it’s okay to criticize a Jewish firm like Goldman Sachs — but only if there is no mention that Jewishness has anything to do with it.

Sometimes the stereotype about Jews and money takes a harsher form: Jews are greedy, they lie, cheat and steal for money, they have undue influence with the government, which they cultivate and exploit ruthlessly, and so on. In recent weeks, many have said this sort of thing about Goldman Sachs, but with no reference to Jews. Are they all anti-Semites? No. It ought to be possible to criticize Goldman in the harshest possible terms–if you think that’s warranted–without being tarred as an anti-Semite.

So is it possible to frame an argument that bad behavior in the financial realm does indeed have something to do with Jewishness? Note that this is quite different from showing that Jewishness is involved in the creation of culture — the argument of The Culture of Critique. There it was only necessary to show that a movement was dominated by Jews who identified as Jews and saw their work as advancing Jewish interests.

As I see it, the argument has two parts:

1.)    Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy has always had a strong element of ingroup/outgroup thinking. Entirely different moral standards are applicable inside and outside the group. The result is that the Jewish moral universe is particularistic and the attitude toward non-Jews is purely instrumental — aimed at maximizing personal benefit with no moral concerns about the consequences to non-Jews. For example, a common pattern in traditional societies was that Jews allied themselves with exploitative non-Jewish elites.

The evolutionary aspects of this situation are obvious. Jews were the ideal intermediary for any exploitative elite precisely because their interests, as a genetically segregated group, were maximally divergent from those of the exploited population. Such individuals are expected to have maximal loyalty to the rulers and minimal concerns about behaving in a purely instrumental manner, including exploitation, toward the rest of the population. (A People that Shall Dwell Alone, Ch. 5)

2.)    One would then have to show that actual Jewish behavior reflected the double moral standard that is ubiquitous in Jewish religious writing. There is in fact a long history of anti-Jewish attitudes focused around the charge that Jews are misanthropes with negative personality traits who are only too willing to exploit non-Jews. This history is summarized in Ch. 2 of Separation and Its Discontents, beginning with the famous quote from Tacitus, “Among themselves they are inflexibly honest and ever ready to show compassion, though they regard the rest of mankind with all the hatred of enemies.” Among the more illustrious observers are the following (see here for the complete passage, p. 46 ff):

  • Immanual Kant: Jews are “a nation of usurers . . . outwitting the people amongst whom they find shelter. . . . They make the slogan ‘let the buyer beware’ their highest principle in dealing with us.”
  • Economic historian Werner Sombart: “With Jews [a Jew] will scrupulously see to it that he has just weights and a just measure; but as for his dealings with non-Jews, his conscience will be at ease even though he may obtain an unfair advantage.”
  • Jewish historian Heinrich Graetz: “[The  Polish Jew] took a delight in cheating and overreaching, which gave him a sort of joy of victory. But his own people he could not treat in this way: they were as knowing as he. It was the non-Jew who, to his loss, felt the consequences of the Talmudically trained mind of the Polish Jew.”
  • Sociologist Max Weber: “As a pariah people, [Jews] retained the double standard of morals which is characteristic of primordial economic practice in all communities: What is prohibited in relation to one’s brothers is permitted in relation to strangers.”
  • Zionist Theodor Herzl: Anti-Semitism is “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects” brought about ultimately by gentile persecution: Jews had been educated to be “leeches” who possessed “frightful financial power”; they were “a money-worshipping people incapable of understanding that a man can act out of other motives than money.”
  • Edward A. Ross: “The authorities complain that the East European Hebrews feel no reverence for law as such and are willing to break any ordinance they find in their way. . . . The insurance companies scan a Jewish fire risk more closely than any other. Credit men say the Jewish merchant is often “slippery” and will “fail” in order to get rid of his debts. For lying the immigrant has a very bad reputation. In the North End of Boston “the readiness of the Jews to commit perjury has passed into a proverb.”

Edmund Connelly has reviewed the work of two academic historians, Paul Johnson (A History of the Jews) and Albert Lindemann (Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews), who “have shown that this pattern of Jewish deception and fraud in pursuit of wealth and its legitimacy within the Jewish community have a long history.”

The key point is the legitimacy of fraud within the Jewish community. Successful fraudsters are not shunned but rather become pillars of the  community:

Reflecting the legitimacy of white collar crime in the wider Jewish community in the contemporary world, [Michael] Milken is a pillar of the Jewish community in Los Angeles and a major donor to Jewish causes. Indeed, this is part of a pattern: Ivan Boesky donated $20 million to the library at the Jewish Theological Seminary. And the notorious Marc Rich has donated millions of dollars to a wide range of Jewish causes, including Birthright Israel, a program designed to increase Jewish identification among young Jews. The list of people supporting Rich’s pardon by Bill Clinton was “a virtual Who’s Who of Israeli society and Jewish philanthropy.” A rabbi concerned about the ethics of these practices notes, “it is a rare Jewish organization that thinks carefully about the source of a donor’s money. … The dangerous thing is not that people make moral mistakes, but that we don’t talk about it.”

The idea is that the Jewish financial elite sees the non-Jewish world in instrumental terms — as objects with no moral value. As I noted earlier,

there is a strong suggestion that the financial elite behaved much more like an organized crime syndicate than as an elite with a sense of civic responsibility or commitment to the long term viability of the society. Whereas organized crime stems from the lower levels of society, this meltdown was accomplished at the very pinnacle of society — the Ivy League grads …, the wealthy financial firms and investment rating agencies, the strong connections with government that facilitated the bailout and failed to provide scrutiny while it was happening. It seems highly doubtful that all this would have happened with the former WASP elite.

In psychological terms, these Jews are behaving in a sociopathic manner toward the non-Jewish world. That is, they have no concern for the moral consequences of their actions — no empathy or concern for victims. Recent neuroscience data shows that people are quite capable of having a great deal of empathy and concern for people in their ingroup while having no empathy at all toward outsiders, especially if they are highly ethnocentric. This implies that a strongly identified Jew could be the epitome of a well-socialized, empathic group member when he is among Jews, but treat the rest of the world in a cold and calculating manner and have no remorse or empathy for the victims.

Nor would such a person have any concerns about the long-term future of the society he lives in. Richard Spencer discusses the fact that so many of our politicians are sociopaths (my favorite example is Winston Churchill), noting that “Aristocrats governed with a healthy, long-term goal in mind: they wanted their great grandchildren to inherit a prosperous, powerful realm.”

It can safely be asserted that concerns about the long-term health of the society are not uppermost in the minds of our financial elite.

Concerns that Wall Street is socially irresponsible are widespread now. Just last week I saw CNBC reporter David Faber asking Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs whether Wall Street was good for America. Is it serving any positive social function? — with the implication that it’s at least reasonable to think it isn’t. Such a question would have been inconceivable a couple years ago. Rather than producing any tangible goods or allocating financing in a way that benefits good businesses, Matt Taibbi’s analogy seems to hit home:  “The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.”

As Kinsley notes, this analogy was immediately deemed anti-Semitic by the usual thought police: “This sentence, many have charged, goes beyond stereotypes about Jews and money, touches other classic anti-Semitic themes about Jews as foreign or inhuman elements poisoning humanity and society, and—to some critics—even seems to reference the notorious ‘blood libel’ that Jews use the blood of Christian babies to make matzoh.”

It also conjures up a strong image of economic parasitism, another ancient anti-Jewish theme: the financial sector as not producing products or wealth, but extracting wealth to the detriment of the society as a whole.

The problem for Kinsley and like-minded people is trying to seriously rebut the claim that the socially destructive behavior of the  predominantly Jewish financial elite does in fact fit a strong historic pattern of Jewish ethical behavior vis á vis the non-Jewish society — behavior that is well grounded in Jewish religious ethics.

In any case, it is a very troubling sign indeed for the  US that the financial sector is vastly outpacing the rest of the economy in corporate earnings as well as in executive compensation — especially when it’s being run by a group of people who have sociopathic attitudes toward non-Jewish America.

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98 Comments to "Does Jewish financial misbehavior have anything to do with being Jewish?"

  1. Margaret Katz's Gravatar Margaret Katz
    January 25, 2011 - 5:47 pm | Permalink

    AngryJew wrote

    “We didn’t write Machiavelli’s Prince, a Catholic did, and he’s been worshiped by European statesmen ever since.”
    Very true. but the Pope and the Church denounced the book and for hundred of years Catholics were forbidden to read it because of its lack of morality and decency.

    The communist parties of Russia, and the United States
    were Jewish organizations. That’s all I need to know about Jews. The Russian communist Jews murdered 100 million Christian Russians. The American communist Jews wanted to do the same thing here. Back in the late 1960’s the Jewish communist Bill Ayers stated that when his faction took over the United States “we’ll have to kill about 25 million to achieve our goals.”

  2. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    May 19, 2010 - 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Morality acts as a brake. The dual-morality just acts as a partial brake – set to on for other jews and off otherwise. Although the brake may be off with non-jews what fuels the desire to take advantage of it?

    I think the fuel of the jewish group strategy is paranoia. They inculcate that in their young as a way of promoting cohesion among themselves and to inspire the undermining of the cohesion of the host.

    This paranoia has a side-effect – it leads to a craving for security through wealth. It’s not greed directly it’s paranoia expressed as greed and no amount of wealth is ever enough to sate the paranoia. Hence what we appear to be witnessing now with New York and London trying to suck every last penny of the West’s combined wealth into a financial black hole.

  3. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    May 13, 2010 - 8:29 pm | Permalink

    CultureMan said: “There are other things (like ideas) you can give your children besides toys.”

    You sir, are a condescending twit with a chip on your shoulder. Another pathetic example of Cartoon-like Jewish Hubris and Conceit. “CultureMan”, indeed!?!

    You need to understand something… There are MANY of us who aren’t Jewish who don’t approve of the ideas you “give your children besides toys”.

    The ideas you give your children make them just like you, and you border on Loathsome.

    Do the math.

  4. CultureMan's Gravatar CultureMan
    May 12, 2010 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

    As a Jew myself, I have to admit that yes we do treat non-Jews differently, and yes we do see them as inferior, most of the time. And, I’ve never read the Talmud, and most of my family has never read the Talmud. This is just part of our culture. From day one, you are told you are special, different, and better than everyone else because you are Jewish.

    If you are reading this and you are not Jewish, maybe you should start telling YOUR kids that they are special so that they can grow up to be richer, smarter, and more powerful.

    There are other things (like ideas) you can give your children besides toys.

  5. Anne's Gravatar Anne
    May 12, 2010 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Joy says:

    “Your example of “Blacks as criminals” is flawed in many ways! What you are actually reporting is that because of the myth of “Blacks as criminals” they are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement. Whites on the other hand are given the benefit of the doubt and are less likely to receive jail and imprisonment for their crimes.”

    Joy, it’s not a myth. Go back to ThinkProgress.

  6. Paul's Gravatar Paul
    May 12, 2010 - 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Yes angryjew. You are exposed.

  7. stj911's Gravatar stj911
    May 12, 2010 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

    How many Madoff/Milken victims were Jewish? What is the total number of people in responsible financial positions in the US? What percentage are Jewish, Christian or of other religious background? Which group has been charged the most for white collar crimes? What is the education average for Jews compared to all other ethnic groups? Would low education,ethnic profiling and poor job prospects contribute to one ethnic group being involved in more petty,violent crimes? Your article should start with this as a minimum before you draw any vague conclusions.

  8. CRIMINALITY NOT A RACIALLY INHERITED TRAIT, I'M AFRAID TO SAY's Gravatar CRIMINALITY NOT A RACIALLY INHERITED TRAIT, I'M AFRAID TO SAY
    May 12, 2010 - 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it too very ‘scientifically correct’ to assert that being a ‘jew’ automatically guarantee’s you are pre-disposed or pre-ordained to be a criminal or a thief, for sure. I’d think it has more to do with culturally taught mores a hell of a lot more than it does any inherited race trait, though I could perhaps be partially ‘wrong’ about there being some form of
    pre disposition of various sociopath leaning tendencies in any race of human being, truly. Science probably bears out that this criminality and sociopath leaning behavior comes from handed down moral values, passed along or observed over time, much along the lines of the more or less accepted ‘role models’ potentially can be good if they are ‘good’ ones, not bent on evil and chicanery and criminal behavior.

    Jews as a ‘tribe’ probably share the same dilemma that most non jews do, with regard to which path should they be on, shall I be ‘criminal’ or shall I be ‘beneficial’ or a ‘good example’ to my fellow human? I think that it best be said that bad behavior on the part of any race is a very bad justification for condemnation of a race based on the perceived or real behavior of a visible, albeit ‘obnoxious’ and ‘arrogantly nasty’ few.

    I don’t have much use for people of the Jewish faith as a whole, based on life experiences with them, but once I put that out, I also have to tell you that the same goes for a significant portion of the african american community, as well as those of russian jewish descent, as well. Toss in the fact that truly I have no use for subsets or veitch diagram sorted subsets of certain professions amongst us, I find ‘used car salesmen’ and ‘lawyers’ and ‘doctors’ and now ‘bankers’ to be pretty low on the evolutionary totem pole, right next to ‘politicians’ who are at the very bottom of the caste ladder. Ironically, those subsets contain people of all races, creeds, and in fact, skin colors.

    taking this one step further, you could truthfully say I have very little use for ‘human kind’ in general, and prefer animals and plants to them, strictly as not too many plants and very few animals who walk on four legs, or in some cases, two (birds) have truly done the nasty things to me that humans have.

    I went way off into the woods here, but the point is, ‘jews’ per-se, as nasty as a lot of them are, by far are not the sole progenitor’s of shit in the universe. they look like it at times, and are often very offensive, but if you think about it, as I have, I can’t pin that tail on the ashkenazi tribe any more than I can I absolve all Palestinians of ugly, nasty behaviors and deeds.

    and that takes us full circle to; “no, jews…as bad as they are, are NOT inherently EVIL any more than the rest of us are..”

    to vilify them all is a big mistake, just as it is to decry all catholics are hence paeophiles based on their reprehensive sexually aberrant behaviors as of late.

    human beings, in general, are evil. Just as we all have the inherent capacity to do good, some of us have the tendency to be those who do incomprehensibly ugly things to others (the Bush clan, the Rothschilds clan, et-al).

  9. Vox's Gravatar Vox
    May 12, 2010 - 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Certainly any group such as the jews that refer to themselves as “The Master Race, all others are insects” has to be kept at lengths and prevented from interacting with society as a whole. We’ve seen the jew work its immorality all through history especially when it comes from profiting from the non-jew’s misery. American involvement in both World War I and World War II were directly attributable to the jew. Brainwashing of the American goyim from cradle to grave is directly attributable to the jew. There is no aspect of business that does not deal directly with working the soil, that is not either controlled or dominated b the jew gangster. “God’s Chosen” indeed! Perhaps if that God is the god of gold or the god of immorality, vice and hatred. The jew is a slave to all that is evil

  10. HLN's Gravatar HLN
    May 12, 2010 - 1:58 pm | Permalink

    If the Jews do have a higher IQ, (I doubt it) I think it might be because the rich Jewish females generally marry genius European men (rich or poor). The Jewish women aren’t geniuses! Only after 100 years or more of such intermarriages did “the Jews” start saying they had higher IQs than the Europeans. Forty or fifty years ago, they used to say Jewish success was due to the high value that the Jews put on education.

  11. Joy's Gravatar Joy
    May 12, 2010 - 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Your example of “Blacks as criminals” is flawed in many ways! What you are actually reporting is that because of the myth of “Blacks as criminals” they are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement. Whites on the other hand are given the benefit of the doubt and are less likely to receive jail and imprisonment for their crimes.

  12. robertsgt40's Gravatar robertsgt40
    May 12, 2010 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

    The “Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Zion” comes to mind. If that doesn’t suffice, read the Bible

  13. J Walk's Gravatar J Walk
    May 12, 2010 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Jews (as a group) are the only people on the Earth that have been expelled from practically every country that’s ever existed.

    Like it or not, there is a reason for that.

    One need only look at the current state of affairs in America’s political, economic, and social landscapes to see the reason why. The game they play is centuries old, only it’s never been allowed to progress as far as it has in the current US; most societies have recognized the threat and acted to neutralize it when it became too great.

  14. May 12, 2010 - 11:04 am | Permalink

    Mediocrity Is Unattainable

    This article needs to cut to the chase and get to the point….

    The point is Pavlovian reverse psychology……. Victim becomes Criminal Criminal is always Victim American over represented ideologues including corrupt bureaucrats, and crony Wall Street Bank Barons operate diversion, distraction subterfuge VICTIMOLOGY.

    The new 21st Century American Victimology has reached such new low standards of accountability, corrupt moral subterfuge, lawlessness, and incompetent leadership that a comparison to the black hole of Calcutta is but a tiny pin hole. There is no bottom to the continued assault of USA citizens ‘We The People”.

    The continued subterfuge manifests itself with extreme arrogance that is unparalleled. This imperious arrogance assists corrupt opportunists in controlled and rigged markets, demise of free market systems, illegal scams, outright daily criminal theft, outrageous stereotyping, and character assassinations including all races, religions and nationality. Negatively impacting the future world with debt slavery, world wars, destitution, famine, poverty, misery, death, and destruction The USA demise is now in effect with every minute of unfolding factual events hidden by corrupt corporate and media barons with continued subterfuge, disconnect, distraction, and diversion VICTIMOLOGY…..Get over It.

  15. May 11, 2010 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

    As the founder and owner of Roommate Finders in New York City for 23 years, the bulk of my clientele was Jewish. I was a exposed to the extremes. One segment of Jews who only trusted other “perfect” Jewish strangers to live with, and the other segment of Jews who wanted only “perfect” non-Jewish strangers to live with. Why the latter? Virtually all of the latter, use to be part of the former. After having so many horrific financial, social and personality-conflict experiences with their fellow travellers, they started not to trust Jews. They would tell me this thinking I was Jewish and would understand their dilemma. This segment of Jews not trusting other Jews also included Jewish landlords, who did not want to rent to other Jews. I even remember one small time Jewish landlord who only wanted tenants with blond hair and blues eyes, he thought they made for more trustworthy tenants.

    When it came to Israelis, the overwhelming majority of my Jewish clients, did not want to live with them as roommates (or trust them).

    A culture of extremes!!!

    Peace.

    Michael Santomauro

    • babelukr's Gravatar babelukr
      May 26, 2011 - 10:25 pm | Permalink

      That culture looks more and more like kultur of blood and excrements of mental degenerative cult with sadism and masochism as their only ruling ideology. With that in mind it is possible to understand their greed, lying, deception – for their final goal was, is and always will be the distruction of those who they first admire, then envy, next despise and finally hate with all their maniacal rage. They don’t even understand that destroing their nation-host they dig their own mass grave. It is obvious that astronomical numbers
      of Zeros in their bank accounts gives them selfconfidence that they are doing extremly well and nobody can question their authority. Now that is maniacal paranoya, complete oblivion to the consiquences of their actions. Everyday news
      confirm this fact – no competence among juden whatsoever. The experts agree on this point although tacitly.

  16. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    May 10, 2010 - 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Kevin MacDonald wrote:

    The problem for Kinsley and like-minded people is trying to seriously rebut the claim that the socially destructive behavior of the predominantly Jewish financial elite does in fact fit a strong historic pattern of Jewish ethical behavior vis á vis the non-Jewish society — behavior that is well grounded in Jewish religious ethics.

    To illustrate the above in the non-financial sphere, there is a trial now going on in Waterloo, Iowa concerning the ultra-orthodox rabbi who was the plant manager and possible co-owner of the former Agriprocessors kosher slaughterhouse in Postville, Iowa- Sholom Rubashkin. Not only was this operation engaging in egregiously inhumane slaughter, which was condemned even by the Israeli rabbinate, but employed large numbers of illegal child immigrants in dangerous jobs. Empathy for animals and non-Jewish children are apparently not found in abundance inside the tribe. Click here for article.

  17. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    May 9, 2010 - 8:59 am | Permalink

    I, for one, appreciate the efforts Angry Jew puts into his obfuscations and out-right lying in the interests of taking our eyes off the ball(s). He tells us much without saying anything.

    … What “ball(s)”, you ask?

    Well…this one, for example: “Can such an argument be made Jewish involvement in financial scandals has something to do with being Jewish?” (asked by Professor MacDonald is this blog post.)

    A careful reading of Angry Jew’s figurative arm-wavings and bellicose and contemptuous attacks on non-Jewish white people, awkwardly disguised as rebuttals to Professor MacDonald’s published opinions and questions, only confirms for me his embarrassing lack of authentic intelligence – a fact which should help put to rest for all time the ridiculous myth/canard that Jews collectively are more intelligent than the rest of us. (Says who?)

    In fact, Angry Jew’s posts only add more piles of poo to that sky-high mound of feather-weight argument that passes for real debate amongst those assigned by fate, circumstance and inclination to defend the vilest aspects of Jewish control over the flow of our information, over our collective financial and personal security and over our political will – even over our capacity to find meaningful work and the freedom to raise our families in ways that encourage their development into constructive members of our commonly-held societies.

    There’s nothing at all insightful, informed, fair or intelligent in his long, rambling, confused and hubristic slags against those he not-so-euphemistically labels “goys” – certainly nothing that should convince him of his own obvious belief in his own and his in-group’s superiority, let alone convince us, the “goys” who suffer the barbs of his sniffling contempt, of the verisimilitude of his opinions.

    So I ask myself this: “Why is he doing this if what he’s typing for public consumption only confirms our worst suspicions of collective Jewish complicity in the brutal rape of our civilization by his own in-group’s leaders?

    Is he for real, and therefore a canary–in-the-coalmine/indicator of the real attitudes of the average Jew or is he an invention of his intellectual enemies who would dearly like to discredit or banish all Jewish opinion from these debates?

    I’m predisposed to think he’s real.

    I’m reminded of a quote from a self-described leader of the American Jewish community back in the 1920’s and 30’s, Maurice Samuel:

    “We Jews, we the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which is not your nature to build … those of us who fail to understand that truth will always be found in alliance with your rebellious factions, until disillusionment comes, the wretched fate which scattered us through your midst has thrust this unwelcome role upon us.”

    In my opinion, Angry Jew is simply another banal “Destroyer” who has had this “unwelcome role” thrust upon him.

    Poor thing.

    …NO!

    …Rather, poor us.

  18. May 9, 2010 - 2:24 am | Permalink

    Beast:

    Jews as front men pulling the strings? Not likely, as far as I can tell:

    Among the economic fields in which Jews today are especially visible is investment banking — “Wall Street,” including interconnected networks of lawyers and other legal and economic manipulators stretching deeply into Hollywood and the mass media. Since the 1800s the “Old Crowd” of German-Jewish banking families (the Seligmans, Lehmans, Goldmans, Sachs, Warburgs, Schiffs, Loebs, et al) had predominated the field; a “New Crowd” of Jews has in recent decades taken their place. After World War II, melodramatically note Judith Ehrlich and Barry Rehfeld, “economic power in America and Wall Street was shifting … Fresh faces came forward as if answering a call … They were the children and grandchildren of Italian, Irish, Poles, and other Europeans who were not of Anglo-Saxon ancestry. But most of all they were Jews.” [EHRLICH, p. 12] This is not to suggest of course that the seminal Jewish American investment firms are today inconsequential. Far from it. In 1999, for instance, Goldman, Sachs and Co. stretched across the world to become the “single largest and controlling shareholder of South Korea’s largest bank, Kookmin. [BLOOMBERG NEWS, p. 11]

    A French Jewish commentator, Bernard Lazare, noted Jewish propensities in high finance in the late 1800s:

    “The man of the lower middle class, the small tradesman at whom
    speculation has probably ruined has much clearer ideas of why he
    is an anti-Semite. He knows that reckless speculation [by financiers],
    with its attendant panics, has been his bane, and for him, the most
    formidable jugglers of capital, the most dangerous speculators, are the
    Jews; which, indeed, is very true.” [LAZARE, B., p. 173]

    Finance, investment banking, brokerage, and commodities are the speediest ways (short of outright crime) to get rich in America; by 1988 the stock and bond market and linked economic activities totaled 12 trillion dollars a year (six times the value of the assets of Fortune’s top 500 companies). “Where the money went,” note Ehrlich and Rehfeld, “and what happened to it were greatly influenced by Wall Street power brokers.” [EHRLICH, p. 19] Corporate mergers, acquisitions, and takeovers have become an especially lucrative field. “By the 1980s, says Ehrlich and Rehfeld, “along with [Gentile] T. Boone Pickens, and a few others … the [Jewish] New Crowd was at the very core of the mergers and acquisitions field.” [EHRLICH, p. 15]…. [This circle of money men] bought luxurious homes, expensive art, high-priced foreign cars, designer clothes and jewelry; they hosted or appeared at the right parties.” [EHRLICH, p. 16] … The old WASP establishment had seen its wealth eroded by changing tax laws and inflation … arriviste Jews began to appear on the boards of such time-honored WASP institutions as the Museum of Art, the Metropolitan Opera, and the New York Public Library.” [EHRLICH, p. 5] … The New Crowd broke the stranglehold of the Establishment WASP bankers and [older Jewish] Our Crowd competitors … and extended profit centers to newer financial activities such as block trading, risk arbitrage, a wide range of retail securities products, financial futures, listed trading of options, and junk bond financing that helped companies expand and made almost every company vulnerable to a takeover, a leveraged buyout that restructured corporate entities and raised critical debt levels.” [EHRLICH, p. 394]

    Other influential Jewish Wall Street ‘players’ (financiers, lenders, borrowers, advisers, lawyers, et al) in recent years have included Alan Greenberg, Ira Harris, Bruce Wasserstein, Jerome Kohlberg, Henry Kravis, Peter Cohen, Joseph Flom, Martin Lipton, Victor Posner (“a onetime Baltimore slumlord” [FORBES, p. 45] who was indicted in 1982 for $1.25 million in income tax evasion and filing false tax returns [BRENNER, p. 72]), [Posner is “the flamboyantly wealthy Miami Beach financier [who has] been discredited as one of the most unprincipled and destructive modern corporate raiders.” [BIANCO, A., 1991, p. 31], Nelson Peltz, the Belzbergs, and many others. Alan Greenberg is the head of Bear Stearns, Stephen Schwarzman founded the Blackstone Group, a prominent investing firm. Well-known traditional Jewish investment banking houses include Lehman Brothers, Lazard Freres, Goldman Sachs, Salomon Brothers, Bache & Co., and Cantor/Fitzgerald. [SILBIGER, S., 2000, p. 78-79] “Jews took the lead in the ’60s,” notes Jewish business author Steven Silbiger, “with new investment banking techniques that helped introduce a conglomeration craze by using multipurpose holding companies … The concentration of Jewish-owned securities firms created well-paying employment opportunities at all levels of the securities industry: securities analysts; portfolio managers; and stock, bond and futures traders; brokers and deal-makers. Among the equity holders of the Jewish investment banking and trading firms on Wall Street are hundreds of Jewish millionaires. Upward mobility based on merit and high salaries has made working on Wall Street a Jewish-friendly career choice … Although exact figures for the numbers of Jews are not available, they no doubt have a leading and disproportionate role on Wall Street.” [SILBIGER, S., 2000, p. 78-80]

    In a book entitled, “The Money Machine,” about the KKR company (Kohlberg, Kravis, and Roberts), the author address three more Jewish Wall Street members:

    “Here were three men who started a firm in 1976 with a few million
    dollars and ten years later had control over what is believed to be the
    largest corporate empire in the world … Why did their names arouse
    such intense emotions, ranging from envy, to awe, to fear?”
    [BARTLETT, p. x]

    And what of this sensitivity to issues of Jewish concern on Wall Street, Jewish solidarity, and Jewish economic influence, particularly (but not only) with regard to Israel? In 1974 Stephen Isaacs noted a premiere example:

    “Gustave Levy [is the] managing partner of the important Goldman,
    Sachs, and Company investment banking firm … Many have regarded
    Levy as the most powerful single individual on Wall Street, able to make
    or break men and companies almost casually. He personally controls the
    movement of billions of dollars. ‘Gus is very conscious of being Jewish.
    He’s very conscious of the problems it can cause,’ said Philip Greer, a
    one-time stockbroker who had reported on Wall Street … ‘When you
    talk about Jewish muscle, Gus will back off — ‘I don’t make waves, [he
    says], ‘I’ve got it, and I can use it, and I know how to use it, and I do
    use it, but I’m not going to talk to you about it because then that redneck
    in Alabama is going to get very upset and I don’t want him to know
    about it.’…. In the Six Day War Gus was sending money over [to Israel]
    like crazy. He would have financed the whole war all by himself. And he
    made no bones about whether you were Jewish or not. ‘You need
    Goldman, Sachs. I need you now. If I don’t get you now, you aren’t
    getting me later.’ It was as simple as that. He could’ve raised it from
    Schwartz or O’Reilly, it didn’t make any difference to him, because
    they’re both after the money that Gus controls.” [ISAACS, p. 263]

    Connie Bruck, a Jewish journalist, notes that

    “Privately, [lawyer Martin] Lipton expressed another concern, one shared
    by many of the businessmen and lawyers who were part of the Jewish
    establishment in New York, and by some of the Drexel contingent as
    well. They feared that the common strain among these nouveau
    entrepreneurs and their nouveau banks at Drexel — an overwhelming
    majority were Jews — would unleash a backlash of virulent anti-Semitism
    … As one Drexel client … put it: ‘It used to be that the Jews would go [to
    WASP lenders] and they’d beg for money, and they’d be rejected while
    the Gentile would come in and they’d all go to lunch and smoke cigars.
    Now it’s a shift of power to the Jews. Drexel is making these huge sums
    of money and the banks comparatively little. The problem is, all
    the entrepreneurs are Jews with the exception of [T. Boone] Pickens and
    [Carl] Lindner — and Lindner, a long time supporter of Israel, is the most
    Jewish non-Jew I’ve ever known.” [BRUCK, p. 205] (In 1999, Lindner
    became controlling owner of the Cincinnati Reds professional baseball
    team.)

    Milken ended up spending only a little over two years in prison, a small sacrifice for the staggering amount of wealth he accumulated. He was sentenced, notes Jewish scholar Norman Cantor, “by a Gentile woman judge who was married to a prominent Jewish lawyer. Eventually she found grounds for sharply reducing his sentence … The skill of some Jewish billionaires in skirting the limits of the law but somehow emerging unscathed, with the aid of high-priced Jewish attorneys, and a compliant press, was remarkable.” [CANTOR, p. 404] Milken court fines alone eventually amounted to $1.1 billion. Still on probation, in November 1997 the New York Times noted that “evidence of further illegal behavior since his release might well cause the government to request further sanctions against Mr. Milken, including even his return to prison.” [TRUELL, D4] Since prison, Milken has been busy collecting tens of millions of dollars, “counseling” the MCI Communications Corporation, advising principal players in the Time-Warner-Turner Broadcasting mass media merger, and working with financier Ronald Perelman. In 1996 the New York Times noted Milken’s presence in Israel in negotiations with a company called the Eisenberg Group. “The Milken Group,” said the Times, “might invest in Israel Chemicals, of which the Israeli government owns 48.5%.” [NYT, 8-14-96] The Eisenberg Group at the fore of all this is headed by Shaul Eisenberg, the richest man in Israel, who, “says Alan Vorspan, “[is] the shadowy Israeli billionaire who had been brokering Israel defense technology to China for more than ten years … ‘Arms merchant of the world’ is not synonymous with a ‘light unto the nations.'” [VORSPAN, p. 31] “The arms business,” note Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, “was and remains central to [Eisenberg’s] operation.” [COCKBURN, p. 17] Other holdings include everything from chemical factories in Korea to projects in Central America. [COCKBURN, p. 12-13]

    If there is credible evidence that jews are merely the ‘front men’ enriching themselves and their nation at everyone else’s expense, while somehow acting in the interests of non-jews who are in fact above them in the scheme of things, I’d sure like to see it.

  19. Powerade's Gravatar Powerade
    May 9, 2010 - 12:18 am | Permalink

    Beast, the jews work to benefit themselves, period. Monsters like Madoff or Milken work for stringpullers who are also jews. Period. While it is true that most of their scientific achievements for example are based on historical distortion, plagiarism, synthesizing the ideas of others or outright lies and theft, they are not stupid as a group. They are not as smart as too many believe either (look at the IQ data on jews, it comes from very small sample groups, intentionally). But they know what they are doing. They might not be able to run a country, but they do know how to destroy them. Or at the very least their goals and aims destroy nations. Look at Israel btw, without American aid, the money confiscated from Middle Class Whites, that stinkpile “light unto nations” would collapse within three days.

    Jews don’t like manual labor. We know this. That they are unwilling to engage in manual labor and in fact are physically inept in so many areas has nothing to do with offshoring production.

    Why pity the jews? They wish to kill us. No doubt about it.

  20. May 8, 2010 - 11:29 pm | Permalink

    Oh, the S.L. blantant robberie’s went hog wild, starting during Reagan’s first term.

    In 1981, as the well ran dry for young men, as White women had been on the pill for twenty years and aborted like crazy, then this led to the perfect cry for we need more Messycan fast breeding labor.

    They have also been radicalized by joooos and their media helps in the continued demonizing of Whites which equals violence against Whites and no safety for the public commons.

  21. May 8, 2010 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Sledgehammer says:
    May 5, 2010 at 9:16 AM
    @Giovanni:
    Fella, no offense but your comparisons of Italians and Jews are ridiculous. Both your genetic as well as your history are screwed up. Italians, whether from the North, Center or South are genetically European. Admixture is ridiculously small, even among Sicilians. Middle Eastern and North African markers are found at remarkably low levels. Germanic genetic influence among Italians is also pretty negligible. Even in the North.(though a lot of northern Italians believe otherwise) As a matter of fact, it’s more pronounced in Central Italy, though still not very important. I’m of course not including the ethnic Germans of Northern Italy(Südtirol). Northern Italians are fairer on average because their makeup is somewhat different than that of southerners. The North had a very strong Celtic influence(Gallia Cisalpina during roman times) while the South did not but had instead a strong Greek one. Even at its peak in the third century, it seems the number of people born outside of Italy in Rome, in terms of free people, was not much more than 5%.(Foreigners at Rome: Citizens and Strangers) The vast majority of these was from all over Europe anyway.(like the soldiers) Of those who came from the near east, many were of Greek descent. The Jewish community, numerically speaking, was very small. About them, the book has this to say; “The group which made the greatest effort to retain a separate identity was the Jews. In their religious and communal institutions, their use of separate catacombs, their epigraphic and liturgical use of Greek, and even their naming practices, they behaved differently from others and were able to pass on a Jewish identity, so that people whose ancestors had lived at Rome for generations and who were otherwise well integrated into Roman society were still identifiably Jewish.”(p. 287)
    Un-Quote
    ——————————————————————

    The Crypto jooos are sneaky and always two faced.

    Too many spoiled son’s of wealthy Whites got married to them in the 1940’s, betraying their familie’s and US. As they for the most part were the spoiled rat leftist in the 60’s thru today.

    They may know squat about the destructive putrid Talmud, but they support their gang leaders and don’t leave town with out Kosher card.

    http://www.ussliberty.org and genocidental achor baby open border law changes ram rodded by LBJ the perverted criminal liar IMO, speaks loudly on a granite table of facts.

    Oh, and LBJ along with FDR ticks in the central regime phucked US over, and over ever since.

    Hey smarty pants name the two jooish brothers from NYC who were the real fire for the Viet Nam war starting in 1960 and worked with LBJ.

  22. Beast's Gravatar Beast
    May 8, 2010 - 1:43 am | Permalink

    I don’t think there is any question that Jews today wield disproportionate power, evidently greater than any time in history.

    Three trends largely precipitated the current state of Wall Street. First, it was not until Michael Milken and Sandy Weill that Jews had access to the real wellspring of financial power – the bond market and commercial banking. The stock market is a side show. Up until that time Jews were largely excluded from these areas in the US by gentile bankers. Don’t underestimate the power of cheap debt to offshore production (all of the PE shops) and spawn most of the big box corporations you see in malls like Home Depot, Loews, Office Depot, Staples, Bed Bath and Beyond, Starbucks, GAP, Limited, Victoria Secret, etc. etc. (yes all Jewish firms), and in fact own the malls through REITs. There is a reason America doesn’t manufacture anything anymore – Jews don’t like “physical labor” and through their PE minions have sought to outsource everything in sight.

    Second, the massive issuance of debt starting the 1970s. The broker dealers, many of them Jewish IBs or now banks, skim insane amounts of money from the issuance of Treasury and municipal debt, and through the shadow banking system have come to effectively print money. There is so much debt floating around that the influence of Wall Street, now largely dominated by a Jewish elite, has exploded. You want to reduce Jewish power reduce debt (and of the course destroy the Hollywood cartel).

    Third, the entire system is predicated on fraud.

    However, even today, there is a distinct possibility that many (not all) of these Jews are the front men for those pulling the strings. Take for example Sandy Weill and Saudis. Norway is a huge investor in GS. Look at the BODs of Citi and JPM. This model is the same as Jews serving as tax collectors and bureaucrats for Eastern European nobility, or pillaging Africa and Asia on behalf of the European aristocracy. A more dominant theme of history is European royals vs. serfs / bourgeosie, vestiges of which continue today. Unfortunately there is too much conspiracy theory out there to get an answer to this question.

    That said after considerable reflection I have come to pity the Jews. Most of their purported historical achievements (e.g. science) are based on historical distortion.

    As if a race of usurers, tax collectors, and glorified seamstresses could possibly build / lead a country, or achieve anything of historical significance (except maybe precipitate the apocalypse) that benefits humanity.

  23. AngryJaw's Gravatar AngryJaw
    May 7, 2010 - 10:13 pm | Permalink

    As noted before, AngryJew consistently fills valuable space with worthless, vacuous posts. His last post here also shows he’s not as intelligent or observant as he believes himself to be. Very typical of most Jews.

  24. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    May 7, 2010 - 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Jewish parasitism definitely mimics certain patterns in Nature, especially those parasites which ‘brainwash’ their host in to committing suicide; see – http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/brainwashed-by-a-parasite/

  25. barb's Gravatar barb
    May 7, 2010 - 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Hey, AJ,

    You donated $ to TOO blog yet?

  26. Tom Watson's Gravatar Tom Watson
    May 7, 2010 - 11:07 am | Permalink

    One thing that I’ve noticed over they years is that the Jews question everything including peoples motives; even when something nice is done for them the Jew will question the motive of why it was done.

  27. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    May 7, 2010 - 4:53 am | Permalink

    @Angry”Jaw”
    Jaw – jaw

    Ameteurish sarcasm – I didn’t know one could make sarcasm a business. Hay, there’s a business idea with a goyishekopf behind it!?

    If I don’t convince you, at least you know one thing – not knowing what the hell the Talmud even is – McDonalds here thinks that every Jew that’s walks the earth READS THE TALMUD.

    Hell, those passages he’s always banging on about – been read by about 1 out of a 100 rabbis.

    Good luck convincing anyone that Jews are exposed to some religiously ordained hatred of Goys.

  28. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    May 7, 2010 - 4:49 am | Permalink

    How is it that I get impersonated here? Someone using my name – that requires they have my email? Hm hm.

    @Sledgehammer
    You’re the one who is way off. You read a genetic profile of Italians and got it all right, did you?

    Hah. Fool. There’s all these genetic experts crawling like bugs here.

    Of course Jews and Italians are related. Italians have Anatolian founder-effects, and a preponderance of north-eastern Mediterranean genes. Hence they cluster closely with Jews, and Turks, and Greeks.

    The question you should really be asking – which Jews? Sephardi Jews are bound to be related because duh- their language is Romance.

  29. Darren's Gravatar Darren
    May 6, 2010 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Argumentum ad populum.

  30. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    May 6, 2010 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Maybe it was out of line to take the tone I did about Rushton, scientifically his following in nationalist circles is beside the point but his evolutionary theorizing isn’t widely accepted by biologists. To me the problem with ‘Race, Evolution, and Behavior’ is the the validity of r/K selection theory to humans, not the validity of the race concept to humans.

  31. AngryJaw's Gravatar AngryJaw
    May 5, 2010 - 7:44 pm | Permalink

    One thing about Angryjew; he’s consistent. He’s continuously able to provide us posts filled to the brim with empty, amateurish sarcasm and false “facts” that manage to never counter any of the truths laid out at this site. The mere fact that these trolls spend so much time here, posting at all hours, is proof enough that somewhere, someone, some THING is worried about the truth. About the – as they see it – slight possibility of losing control. Or some of the hypnotized stumbling across this site and waking up.

  32. Baltasar Nordstrom's Gravatar Baltasar Nordstrom
    May 5, 2010 - 5:48 pm | Permalink

    To be more specific about the extent of Jewish exploitation of other Americans, one thing we need is to know what their average income is compared to the rest of us and the proportion of wealth/capital they own. Jewish income statistics were I believe eradicated as a separate IRS category sometime back in the 1980s. Supposedly at that time (and I cannot verify these numbers), Jewish income was at 178 percent of average. If a separate Jewish category is still suppressed, one of our political demands should be that it be restored, and the category of wealth ownership by racial or ethnic group added. It would be just and fair for all Americans to know who is benefitting from any particular economic arrangement and who is not. If there are serious inequities, we need to know that also.

  33. Baltasar Nordstrom's Gravatar Baltasar Nordstrom
    May 5, 2010 - 4:58 pm | Permalink

    “It also conjures up a strong image of economic parasitism, another ancient anti-Jewish theme: the financial sector as not producing products or wealth, but extracting wealth to the detriment of the society as a whole.”:

    Americans make things, Jews make deals. Somewhat of an exaggeration, but far more than a grain of salt of truth to it. Moreover, the top six U.S. banks own assets worth 60 percent of the gross domestic product. A classic case of exploitation that the Left should be exposing but doesn’t because of the ethnic issues involved, the plundering of one people or peoples by another all out of proportion to their population.

  34. Sean Gruber's Gravatar Sean Gruber
    May 5, 2010 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

    True on average:

    When you hear of a small larceny or a little-bitty crime, the culprit is always a gentile. But when you hear of a gigantic, multi-million-dollar swindle – or even a multi-BILLION-dollar swindle – the culprit is always a Jew.

    Many examples. Not many counterexamples. And Jews are a tiny percentage of population.

    A curious fact: “race realist” Jews defend stereotypes re blacks as having a grain of truth in them. But every Jewish stereotype is an anti-semitic “canard.”

  35. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    May 5, 2010 - 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Eileen posted the New Yorker article “The Influencer”:
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/05/10/100510fa_fact_bruck

    Here’s an excerpt, followed by the legal outcome:

    “the biggest bill by far that Saban didn’t want to pay was the government’s. In late December, 2000, after Saban had exercised his right to sell his share of Fox Family, Matt Krane said that he received a call from him. “He said, ‘Let me ask a question. What are we doing on taxes on the sale?’
    “I said, ‘We’re going to pay the capital-gains tax, like we always discussed.’

    “ ‘What is it?’
    “ ‘Like, twenty-seven per cent state and federal, combined.’
    “ ‘Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking crazy?’ He was shouting, ‘I’m not paying that!’ ”

    Saban denies Krane’s account of their conversation. “This is a man where we went through seven audits, and all came in ‘No change.’ So I looked at him as a genius of the century. And he always took the lead in setting up structures that were absolutely legal and tax-efficient. And all I asked him to do was this time, too, please do the same.”

    Krane said that he had previously solved every problem Saban had presented, carrying out “very aggressive” tax planning, but he had always tried to design transactions ahead of time to avoid taxes. Here the only recourse was a tax shelter. As Krane began to explore the tax-shelter world, he learned that major accounting and investment-banking firms—including K.P.M.G., Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, and many others—were involved in creating tax-shelter products. He selected one that was developed by the Quellos Group, a financial boutique based in Seattle; he integrated this shelter with a tax plan of his own, and, with the combination, made it possible for Saban to pay no taxes on his $1.5-billion gain.
    __________________________________________________
    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/05/business/fi-quellos5

    $1.3-billion tax-shelter scam alleged

    Two executives of a defunct Seattle fund manager and an L.A. attorney are indicted after a federal probe.
    Kim Murphy June 05, 2009

    SEATTLE — Two principals of defunct Seattle investment management firm Quellos Group and a Los Angeles lawyer were indicted in a tax shelter scheme that allegedly created more than $1.3 billion in fraudulent losses for prominent clients, including media mogul and billionaire investor Haim Saban.

    The operation was “one of the largest tax fraud schemes ever uncovered in this country,” U.S. Atty. Jeffrey C. Sullivan in Seattle said Thursday.

    Saban and four other clients were apparently unaware of the alleged fraud, having been offered written legal opinions from well-known law firms and assurances from their own tax attorneys that the tax shelter was legal. They paid about $400 million in back taxes, plus penalties, and were not accused of any wrongdoing. [more]

  36. barb's Gravatar barb
    May 5, 2010 - 10:44 am | Permalink

    “AngryJew says:
    May 5, 2010 at 3:30 AM
    Oh my! We’ve been exposed. Yes, yes yes its true, we are money grubbing kleptomaniac parasites. Yes yes yes. Of course you poor goyim deserve it, yes! Of course, me stereotypical Jew, here to mock and laugh, and then rob and pillage.

    Should one be crying or laughing at you if that’s the worldview you’d like to espouse?

    @Apollonian

    Your hatred doesn’t bother me. Your health is not my worry.

    Three internet summaries of the Prince and conviction about what I’ve read. Don’t throw rocks at glass houses, lightweight. As far as your concerned FYI “read” does not imply fanned through the pages on a hot day in Barnes and Nobles. My recommendation: read a review from a reliable source, like Britannica or Norton’s anthology. Just so you don’t need to reference the dictionary, the term advice, guidance, and insight all suggest INSTRUCTIONAL intent. That will help you decode whether or not Machiavelli was a Florentine opportunist hawking his wares – or a self-sacrificing Republican trying to root out evil.

    On Tacitus I am not questioning his critique of Nero as emperor- I am questioning Tacitu’s turning a blind eye to the implications Imperial barbarism had for Goyish ethics.

    The Talmud? Oh buddy. For you and all the budding Talmudists here – you don’t even know what the Talmud is, nor would you recognize one if you saw it. You can read all the websites you one, and if you get bored one day, come back to me – I’ve got a few links you’d really enjoy.

    @Daybreaker
    You are missing the point. Oh poor goy. You guys must be right about all the genetic determinism…at first I didn’t believe it…but with every comment it becomes clear. Oh pitty the goys, pitty the stupid goys.

    Okay Daybreaker.

    Do you get what I am saying or not?

    I don’t care how much you claim to have studied your ethics and how unhealthy it was. Stick to the subject.

    One, Machiavelli is amoral. If you want to argue against that – than I have nothing to say to you. Two, Machiavelli is PRESCRIPTIVE. Three, please look up the history of Machiavelli worship in the West. Four, then come back to me and tell me with a straight face that un-ethical conduct is a Jewish invention, and the poor Catholics or Protestants were too damn stupid to be willy themselves.

    That’s all I am talking about.

    I am NOT suggesting that Jews be given a pass on self-critique. Nor am I reducing Anti-Semitism to Machiavellinism. Nor am I saying Tu Quoque because you charged us with being degenerates.

    No, I am merely saying you are ignoring facts, history, and you got the story wrong.

    “Plenty of very smart people have encountered actually existing Judaism up-close and personal over the ages and across the world and have come to verdicts as harsh as Kevin MacDonald’s or harsher.”

    Oh really? So do you think “people” is the same as “scholar” or put another way: “Plenty of people have come to look at the patient, and concluded that he was possessed of the devil… then a ‘doctor’ came, and realized one shot of drug A, would put the man back to normal”.

    Capish?

    “denial has no weight”.

    Just as much weight as your accusations. They have no scholarly or empirical backing. But as you point out, you are not seeking anything scholarly, merely something you’ve chosen to believe. Kevin aint no anthropologist, nor is he really a scholar. The thousands of certified experst in the field are all liars, but good old’ MacDonald, is where YOU go when you need the truth.

    “Jewish financial rapacity is a familiar phenomenon with a long international history.”

    So you say, so you say.

    ” Jewish universalism is the very small brother of Jewish particularism.”

    And you’d know that how? You certainly can’t even have a clue what I am referencing.

    “It’s no surprise that an angry Jew sees no need for non-Jews to comment on Jewish moral faults. ”

    Huh!? You’ve given yourself away buddy. So you are insecure.

    “black gang-bangers associate with each other the list of their victims is bound to include some of each other.”

    Some?

    Now there’s an understatement (how about 95% if you want to look it up)

    “Jewish control of Wall Street or White flight when Black gangs take over a neighborhood. ”

    Please don’t fucking compare yids and n@#%5. There you’re going too fucking far! It is beneath all of us here. WTF!?

    As for Jewish “control”. Ah man. Sure, us Jews are overrepresented, but why the hell do you CONCLUDE control?

    “Rather than looking at the real clashes of interest and accepting that non-Jewish dislike of Jewish control of resources is rational, Jews prefer to pathologize the opposition, with the label antisemitism.”

    Oh, because that’s what you and Kev are doing. Looking at “real” clashes of interests. I’d ask you to give me a break, but something tells me you wont.

    “And Kevin MacDonald is quite familiar with his subject.”

    Oh sure. Sure sounds familiar to me. So was Hitler – supposedly. And from what I hear, prior to Galileo, the Church was pretty familiar with Astronomy. The gypsy next-door tells me all I need to know about the Stars, and yet when I mention the Hubble telescope chimes “now that’s black magic”.

    “go away and don’t come back till you have lots of unavailable numbers”

    You remind me of the old libel “serial murder = disaffected white male”. Sure, you’ve come up with a book that one maniacal Jewish lawyer libeled as Anti-Semitic. So now you are certain that all Jews are Goy-fearing maniacs??

    I did not wish anyone to go away – merely to use your little goy brains (if that’s possible kisses and love – can’t you feel it!?

    “That merits only laughter.”

    I’m glad you’re laughing. But Heaven forbid you ever find your self in a bind and need surgery. More likely than not you’ll prefer the Jewish doctor over the Indian or Wasp. Or your national security needs a mathematician to program that NSA junk so we can pick out the terrorists to save your life. You’ll go with the Jew, no matter how much you protest dear Lady.

    As for your “you are a Jewish stereotype” whine. Not sure if that’s a compliment, but whatever it is, at least I am stereotypically using my brain, and you’re stereotypically not.

    Just kidding! Don’t get so mad or upset. After all, if you don’t know what you are talking about – you are still not Black, and that’s all that matters to me. I want you to be smart and well informed, so that we preserve this civilisation before the dark masses devour what’s left of us.

    Remember, your daddy might have been Irish, mine was Jewish. But we are White. Divide us, and Mandeltopia awaits us in two decades.”

    Wow, the above was an amazingly long post to be so content-free.

    AJ, if you *really* want non-Jewish WNs to see you as an ally, stop it the sarcasm, already. We’re being exterminated here and you’re busy insulting US then telling US not to get mad about it.

    How about actually do something productive to “save what’s left of civilization” by going and telling your own coethnics who are playing the financial shenanigans to knock it off with the stereotype confirming?
    After all, that’s something you can do. Us non-Jews certainly can’t. We’ll get smeared as anti-Semites and insulted or silenced and ignored.

  37. Liam's Gravatar Liam
    May 5, 2010 - 10:15 am | Permalink

    I thought I would add a quote to the above list:

    “Fourthly, where any set of men, scattered over distant nations, maintain a close society or communication together, they acquire a similitude of manners, and have but little in common with the nations amongst whom they live. Thus the Jews in Europe, and the Aremenians in the East, have a peculiar character; and the former are as much noted for fraud as the latter for probity.”

    Extract from an essay titled Of National Characters by David Hume.

    Selected Essays, Oxford World’s Classics, p. 117, ISBN 978-0-19-954030-3

    Given the age of the text “peculiar” probably mean “distinctive”.

  38. May 5, 2010 - 9:26 am | Permalink

    “A couple of things . Firstly would this Apollonian chap maintain a civil tongue , its one thing to rave and another rant– very unpleasant to read , this spewing . Rant all you like but don’t post it.” – Quirous Spectator says: May 4, 2010 at 7:16 PM

    * * * * *

    “Quirous” Advised For Wisdom
    (Apollonian, 5 May 10)

    “Quirous…”: if u don’t like what I write, then don’t read it, fool. I don’t necessarily, particularly care what u think–got it? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  39. Sledgehammer's Gravatar Sledgehammer
    May 5, 2010 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    @Giovanni:
    Fella, no offense but your comparisons of Italians and Jews are ridiculous. Both your genetic as well as your history are screwed up. Italians, whether from the North, Center or South are genetically European. Admixture is ridiculously small, even among Sicilians. Middle Eastern and North African markers are found at remarkably low levels. Germanic genetic influence among Italians is also pretty negligible. Even in the North.(though a lot of northern Italians believe otherwise) As a matter of fact, it’s more pronounced in Central Italy, though still not very important. I’m of course not including the ethnic Germans of Northern Italy(Südtirol). Northern Italians are fairer on average because their makeup is somewhat different than that of southerners. The North had a very strong Celtic influence(Gallia Cisalpina during roman times) while the South did not but had instead a strong Greek one. Even at its peak in the third century, it seems the number of people born outside of Italy in Rome, in terms of free people, was not much more than 5%.(Foreigners at Rome: Citizens and Strangers) The vast majority of these was from all over Europe anyway.(like the soldiers) Of those who came from the near east, many were of Greek descent. The Jewish community, numerically speaking, was very small. About them, the book has this to say; “The group which made the greatest effort to retain a separate identity was the Jews. In their religious and communal institutions, their use of separate catacombs, their epigraphic and liturgical use of Greek, and even their naming practices, they behaved differently from others and were able to pass on a Jewish identity, so that people whose ancestors had lived at Rome for generations and who were otherwise well integrated into Roman society were still identifiably Jewish.”(p. 287)

  40. Baltasar Nordstrom's Gravatar Baltasar Nordstrom
    May 5, 2010 - 7:35 am | Permalink

    “It also conjures up a strong image of economic parasitism, another ancient anti-Jewish theme: the financial sector as not producing products or wealth, but extracting wealth to the detriment of the society as a whole.”:

    Americans make things, Jews make deals. Somewhat of an exaggeration, but far more than a grain of salt of truth to it. A classic case that the Left should be exposing but doesn’t, the plundering of one people or peoples by another.

  41. May 5, 2010 - 7:17 am | Permalink

    @ Quirous Spectator May 4, 2010 at 7:16 PM: “Something weird is going on in USA an I am trying to put a finger on it.”

    I think you came pretty darn close to succeeding. A ‘must read,’ IMO.

  42. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    May 5, 2010 - 5:31 am | Permalink

    On May 4 at 10:53 am, Eileen says:
    Off the immediate topic here: there’s a really interesting, well-written article in The New Yorker about Haim Saban entitled “The Influencer.” WELL worth the read.
    __________________________
    It’s very much *on* the immediate topic. Saban and his large group of fellow Jewish wheelers and dealers exist in there own world, separate from and alien to ours. Here’s fallout from that article:

    http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/exclusive-battle-new-yorker-over-bruck-profile-haim-saban-16870
    Exclusive: Battle at the New Yorker Over Haim Saban Profile
    By Sharon Waxman Published: April 30, 2010

    A raging battle continued down to the last moment before deadline on Friday at the New Yorker over the contents of a magnum opus by veteran writer Connie Bruck about media billionaire and Democratic stalwart Haim Saban, WaxWord has learned. [more]

  43. HA's Gravatar HA
    May 5, 2010 - 4:44 am | Permalink

    Re: Jewish universalism, you mean like the neocons’ touching concern for the welfare of Muslim women? The “genocide” in Sudan? Rwanda? It might all be a bit more convincing if Jews weren’t already known as a deceitful tribe.

  44. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    May 5, 2010 - 3:30 am | Permalink

    Oh my! We’ve been exposed. Yes, yes yes its true, we are money grubbing kleptomaniac parasites. Yes yes yes. Of course you poor goyim deserve it, yes! Of course, me stereotypical Jew, here to mock and laugh, and then rob and pillage.

    Should one be crying or laughing at you if that’s the worldview you’d like to espouse?

    @Apollonian

    Your hatred doesn’t bother me. Your health is not my worry.

    Three internet summaries of the Prince and conviction about what I’ve read. Don’t throw rocks at glass houses, lightweight. As far as your concerned FYI “read” does not imply fanned through the pages on a hot day in Barnes and Nobles. My recommendation: read a review from a reliable source, like Britannica or Norton’s anthology. Just so you don’t need to reference the dictionary, the term advice, guidance, and insight all suggest INSTRUCTIONAL intent. That will help you decode whether or not Machiavelli was a Florentine opportunist hawking his wares – or a self-sacrificing Republican trying to root out evil.

    On Tacitus I am not questioning his critique of Nero as emperor- I am questioning Tacitu’s turning a blind eye to the implications Imperial barbarism had for Goyish ethics.

    The Talmud? Oh buddy. For you and all the budding Talmudists here – you don’t even know what the Talmud is, nor would you recognize one if you saw it. You can read all the websites you one, and if you get bored one day, come back to me – I’ve got a few links you’d really enjoy.

    @Daybreaker
    You are missing the point. Oh poor goy. You guys must be right about all the genetic determinism…at first I didn’t believe it…but with every comment it becomes clear. Oh pitty the goys, pitty the stupid goys.

    Okay Daybreaker.

    Do you get what I am saying or not?

    I don’t care how much you claim to have studied your ethics and how unhealthy it was. Stick to the subject.

    One, Machiavelli is amoral. If you want to argue against that – than I have nothing to say to you. Two, Machiavelli is PRESCRIPTIVE. Three, please look up the history of Machiavelli worship in the West. Four, then come back to me and tell me with a straight face that un-ethical conduct is a Jewish invention, and the poor Catholics or Protestants were too damn stupid to be willy themselves.

    That’s all I am talking about.

    I am NOT suggesting that Jews be given a pass on self-critique. Nor am I reducing Anti-Semitism to Machiavellinism. Nor am I saying Tu Quoque because you charged us with being degenerates.

    No, I am merely saying you are ignoring facts, history, and you got the story wrong.

    “Plenty of very smart people have encountered actually existing Judaism up-close and personal over the ages and across the world and have come to verdicts as harsh as Kevin MacDonald’s or harsher.”

    Oh really? So do you think “people” is the same as “scholar” or put another way: “Plenty of people have come to look at the patient, and concluded that he was possessed of the devil… then a ‘doctor’ came, and realized one shot of drug A, would put the man back to normal”.

    Capish?

    “denial has no weight”.

    Just as much weight as your accusations. They have no scholarly or empirical backing. But as you point out, you are not seeking anything scholarly, merely something you’ve chosen to believe. Kevin aint no anthropologist, nor is he really a scholar. The thousands of certified experst in the field are all liars, but good old’ MacDonald, is where YOU go when you need the truth.

    “Jewish financial rapacity is a familiar phenomenon with a long international history.”

    So you say, so you say.

    ” Jewish universalism is the very small brother of Jewish particularism.”

    And you’d know that how? You certainly can’t even have a clue what I am referencing.

    “It’s no surprise that an angry Jew sees no need for non-Jews to comment on Jewish moral faults. ”

    Huh!? You’ve given yourself away buddy. So you are insecure.

    “black gang-bangers associate with each other the list of their victims is bound to include some of each other.”

    Some?

    Now there’s an understatement (how about 95% if you want to look it up)

    “Jewish control of Wall Street or White flight when Black gangs take over a neighborhood. ”

    Please don’t fucking compare yids and n@#%5. There you’re going too fucking far! It is beneath all of us here. WTF!?

    As for Jewish “control”. Ah man. Sure, us Jews are overrepresented, but why the hell do you CONCLUDE control?

    “Rather than looking at the real clashes of interest and accepting that non-Jewish dislike of Jewish control of resources is rational, Jews prefer to pathologize the opposition, with the label antisemitism.”

    Oh, because that’s what you and Kev are doing. Looking at “real” clashes of interests. I’d ask you to give me a break, but something tells me you wont.

    “And Kevin MacDonald is quite familiar with his subject.”

    Oh sure. Sure sounds familiar to me. So was Hitler – supposedly. And from what I hear, prior to Galileo, the Church was pretty familiar with Astronomy. The gypsy next-door tells me all I need to know about the Stars, and yet when I mention the Hubble telescope chimes “now that’s black magic”.

    “go away and don’t come back till you have lots of unavailable numbers”

    You remind me of the old libel “serial murder = disaffected white male”. Sure, you’ve come up with a book that one maniacal Jewish lawyer libeled as Anti-Semitic. So now you are certain that all Jews are Goy-fearing maniacs??

    I did not wish anyone to go away – merely to use your little goy brains (if that’s possible ;) kisses and love – can’t you feel it!?

    “That merits only laughter.”

    I’m glad you’re laughing. But Heaven forbid you ever find your self in a bind and need surgery. More likely than not you’ll prefer the Jewish doctor over the Indian or Wasp. Or your national security needs a mathematician to program that NSA junk so we can pick out the terrorists to save your life. You’ll go with the Jew, no matter how much you protest dear Lady.

    As for your “you are a Jewish stereotype” whine. Not sure if that’s a compliment, but whatever it is, at least I am stereotypically using my brain, and you’re stereotypically not.

    Just kidding! Don’t get so mad or upset. After all, if you don’t know what you are talking about – you are still not Black, and that’s all that matters to me. I want you to be smart and well informed, so that we preserve this civilisation before the dark masses devour what’s left of us.

    Remember, your daddy might have been Irish, mine was Jewish. But we are White. Divide us, and Mandeltopia awaits us in two decades.

  45. Barkingmad's Gravatar Barkingmad
    May 4, 2010 - 11:16 pm | Permalink

    QS, you mentioned parasites. Here is a particularly scary one:

    The fish tongue eating parasite: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cymothoa exigua, or the tongue-eating louse, is a parasitic crustacean… The parasite replaces the fish’s tongue by attaching its own body to the muscles of the tongue stub. The fish is able to use the parasite just like a normal tongue

  46. CompassionateFascist's Gravatar CompassionateFascist
    May 4, 2010 - 10:54 pm | Permalink

    The only goverments that “protect Jews” from the “raging lunacy” of the “goyim” are governments financed by Jews. Like our current rainbow-hued wrecking-crew. But that Jewcrew isn’t going to be around for much longer. If he/she is not already crouched in occupied Palestine, AngryJew(ess) should seriously consider emigration.

  47. giovanni's Gravatar giovanni
    May 4, 2010 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    AngryJew says: “We didn’t write Machiavelli’s Prince, a Catholic did, and he’s been worshiped by European statesmen ever since. Before attacking Jewish ethics, why don’t you study up on your own!”
    ———-

    “Machiavelli and the Italians” is interesting as a parallel with the Jews and brings the argument of Gerard Celente “…what if the Wall Street Mafia would have had Italian names such as Costello, Puccini, Coppola, Celente, Capone…” ? (….instead of Greenspan, Summers, Rubin, Dick Fuld, Jim Cayne, Herb Greenberg, Lloyd Blankfeyn… and then Madoff… and before Milken, Levine, Boesky…)

    Machavelly was basically Jewish as a logic, because at the time Italians were kind of the jews of western europe, in same respects (before they lost out their edge to the Jews from Germany, England, Holland..after the discovery of America…). Let me explain because I have Italian and some Jewish blood and I am in Finance. It helps also to explain that “Jews” means a combination of some social, cultural and racial features that at times were partially present in other mediterranean people, Lebanese and Italians for instance. But we for instance lacked the iron IDEOLOGY, the powerful narrative of Judaism and the minority status to reinforce the elite-against-majority dynamic. With a christian environmente we lost our jewish edge of the Renaissance and (some not all) of the Machiavellian soul

    Basically we Italians were similar to Jews in some attitudes and thinking at the time and still have at least among occidental populations something in common (like machiavellian thinking, only we feel some guilt sometimes). In NY Jews and Italian lived together quite well for a while and it was “Jewish and Italian Mafia” (only we got into more movies) not Polish and Greek or Irish Mafia. In Italy, in spite of the Church, there was less attrition (the French deported Jews with gusto, the Italians less than anybody. Too many fascist jews with Mussolini including his lover in the ’20s. My grandfather was technically Jewish and so his sister. She did not move from home from 1943 to 1945, the whole village knew and nobody said anything to deport her…). And in Italy jews were in turn more liberal and less hostile to society, they were also less as number, but for instance joined more the Fascist movement, that was “constructive” in terms of national traditions, than the Comunist who were destructive…

    Other similarities: in France and England Italian merchants and money lenders were kicked out between XIV and XVI century and hated, much like the Jews. The reasons ? Think of “semite” blood that came from the Mediterranean (Rome was the biggest jewish town of the world untile the III century, Tacitus was complaining about it, and then Arabs and Lebanese stopped here by quite often) . Italians had a tendency to migrate all over Europe for commerce, finance and artisan work between 1300 until about 1600 competing with Jews… And think of the immorality and corruption at the time of Luther in Rome or Florence, coupled with a cosmopolitan and commerce-finance oriented culture… Italians were sophisticated in commerce and finance, always travelling up to China and culturally more cynical, as proven by Guicciardini and Machiavelli and in the arts by Boccaccio, Aretino and others “un-christians” authors (until the Reformation)

    But this Italian “jewish-like” attitude in politics and commerce at the time of Machiavelli was not the thinking of “anglo-saxon-german-frankish” Europe, it was not mainstream at all and Italians contributed little

    Frederik the Great of Prussia the modell King of the Enlightment wrote the “Anti-Machiavelli” to counter its anti-christian and amoral message….
    Machiavelli was a loner and an exception to christian and Englightment thought, he was marginal writer and has less influence than Erasmus, Bacon, Adam Smith, Jefferson, Franklyn, Hamilton, the Federalist, Voltaire, Rousseau, Kant…

    In Italy we had a tradition of cynical and un-christian thinking around the Renaissance, from Bocaccio to Guicciardini and Machiavelli and we are today a very cynical country in everything that is public life, more similar to Lebanon than to Switzerland inspite of the distance. Italian governemts are famous for double crossing everybody, made secret agreements with PLO and arab countries to exempt Italy from terrorism, from Italy also was organized the arm traffic for Israel in 1946, in Lebanon French and Americans were blown up in 1982, but not the Italians that cut a secret deal with Hezbollah. In Somali same thing, in 1943 double crossing both Hitler and the Allied gave lousy results…

    So, semite Mediterranean blood from being in the middle of a bunch of semite people across the ocean… the biggest jewish presence in europe before 90% of european jews converted or disappeared in the dark centuries after the fall of Empire….a disposition for commerce and finance and migration for some historical reasons…

    Race and economics made Italians share some jewish attitudes in finance, commerce and politics (not in the visual arts or music where the Catholic church helped a lot). We are still very cynical, like arabs or mexicans, everybody here assumes that 911 was an inside job, because we had dozen of terrorist acts in which the governement was somehow involved (they were not as efficient as Mossad and sometimes it leaked). We are also more corrupt than is necessary for an industrial country in public life, nor very reliable to manage money and do banking where we trust more the Swiss and we were trusting more than Americans, because we thought they were anglo-saxons. Why are not than just another Greece ? Because in the north we are basically the same mix of the French (celtic and german)

    So, when I get tired of complicated explanations of the Financial Crisis I mention to fellow italians that almost everybody at Wall Street is jewish and people often say…ahhh…..hmmm….this of all this mess….Because it would be as if they heard that Southern Italians were be running the FED, Treasury, Goldman, Lehman, Citi, AIG, Fannie Mae… But they would be found out, because of the names than end in vowels like Costello, Puccini, Coppola, Celente, Capone, Napolitano that they did not change

  48. Finrod's Gravatar Finrod
    May 4, 2010 - 7:50 pm | Permalink

    No, I really think Jews are not genetically predisposed to malfeasance, and that it is strictly cultural. Jews I have known who had not been extensively exposed to other Jews tend to be as good as anyone. And I’ve actually witnessed the metamorphosis of nice, small town Jews into jerks after they have undergone several years of indoctrination by a large, urban Jewish community. On the other side, I have known Non-Jews married to Jews who can mimic their ethnocentrism as well as the best of them.

    Ever noticed that Jew/non-Jew marriages are overwhelmingly female Jew married to Male non-Jew, similar to north asians and Eurpean marriages? That supports another theory of Rushton’s: associative marriage by IQ. Jewish females have similar brain mass, and hence IQ, to non Jewish males.

  49. Quirous Spectator's Gravatar Quirous Spectator
    May 4, 2010 - 7:16 pm | Permalink

    A couple of things . Firstly would this Apollonian chap maintain a civil tongue , its one thing to rave and another rant– very unpleasant to read , this spewing . Rant all you like but don’t post it.

    Well done to Prof MacDonald , the cost of maintaining a public debate must be enormous .He could have had a peaceful life with a Prius and a few hobbies ; enjoying the Winery tours and vacuous academic jokes . In other words he could have been an ass-licker .

    What I find so interesting about the Jewish American Coupe is how similar it is to parasitic activity we seen in nature.There is an bug , somewhere in SAmerica which is attacked by a fungus that drives into into an ants nest that then take the fungus underground , which completes the life cycle of the fungus.(Hope I have that right) .

    In the USA , Jewish parasitism (in the biological sense-no offense intended) , seem to have gone about a similar task through taken over the media in all its forms ,and through it , have promoted and incredible decadent lifestyle (The MTV garbage pile,etc etc, etc) and at the same time suppressed erect civic behavior by siding with the Left wing [social communists] , and accusing people who promote self control and self responsibility of fascist , therefore anti-Semitic tendencies.
    By driving the social structure into decadent confusion , with the endless brow beating of any who oppose them , the way is then open to fleece the Society using the financial and academic structure to bribe confuse and intimidate any who try to resist. Resisters are of course Anti-Semitic and there sirens can be ignored if they can’t be suppressed.
    Further , now that the animal (in this case the USA and the whole west actually) is becoming highly irritated by parasitic attack –one might think of a dog or a chicken infested with fleas and mites–starts looking around for the cause of its misery , the parasite then directs the organism , through control of the Gov [Clinton, Bush , Obama] , seek new paths for treasure and blame. Government intellectuals caught up in this game , create an extensive intellectual convolutions that justify this Chess move or that ,as they go deeper into the mire in a safety mission of world domination ,while all the time keeping the Miserable animal distracted from the true source of misery–the market driven financial rapacity , that parasitically cannibalizes the structure upon which it lives .This parasitic behavior seems to strangely be leaking out all over the world as the US Gov structures use Military and financial tactics and look for new feeding grounds , to distract and suppress their own miserable citizens buy foreign adventures.

    And at the base of all this is the US Fed & Treasury & Wall street that coordinate as a single organism-that is their social set; work together to drive the country into massive debt that entices the military-industrial complex into the Middle East to control the oil reserves that under write the dollar and where they can defend the parasites main nest! Human are more complicated than ants .
    I think Inevitably , if America doesn’t get its own house in order , we will end up in WW III , as their are enough independent Countries to resist this dis-functioning organism , which could take the world straight over the cliff in a frenzy of deluded righteous hubris–Nemesis I think the gods call it.
    There are so many historical examples .Who’s driving this obsession with Iran?Biological weapon would have a similar effect but we hear not of that .The intellectuals are full of hysterical expedient reasoning ,but it really comes down to the fact that the people that control the West will not allow the middle east to form an independent entity.Because the trust only that with they can control , and thus feed upon.

    And the reason I am against what these Overlords are trying to create is the Prime Question : who watches the watchmen? For it is obvious that those who claim the right to rule have misruled. And I do believe they are having another go at a USSR style state , run under a market economy , but again WHO WATCHES THE WATCHMEN ? Surely not the irresponsible lunatics meddling in middle Asia. The US has lost the right to lead because it no longer leads by example. Really what mass of citizenry want to become like this modern USA–no offense to the owners of this sight–just the unpleasant truth.You say Mexicans , but I say the tide is turning there ,as immigration converts the USA into a Mexico of sorts.And those who read these sites know who’s driving that and for exactly the reasons I mention in this rave .The parasite is using a tactic of divide and rule–flying expediently under humanism–to sabotage the animals self defenses. The wreckage of the Left is long and awful yet the hypocrites never look back.
    Something weird is going on in USA an I am trying to put a finger on it.

  50. Kratos's Gravatar Kratos
    May 4, 2010 - 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Over time, people will begin to see the real Jewish financial traits and take their money somewhere else. There is only so much people can take I am afraid.

  51. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    May 4, 2010 - 4:29 pm | Permalink

    AngryJew, I’d think that you must be a joke, somebody’s invention of the most stereotyped Jew possible, for Kevin MacDonald’s readers to argue with, except that I’ve met people like you. You might be a joke, like any other pseudonymous commenter, including me, but they aren’t.

    My favorite ever was a Jewish girl who wanted a university course on Ancient Israel rewritten to strengthen Jewish identity. The set texts struck her as inadequate, because they treated Israel as just another ancient nation, rather than inspiring young Jews to make aliyah. That non-Jews might be studying ancient history just as ancient history, that they might have an interest in academically credible rather than Jewishly heart-warming and encouraging books, and that their interest might be legitimate in comparison with the interests of young Jews – who the history was really all about! – did not strike her as reasonable at all.

    There are actually people that ethnocentric, that certain of Jewish moral superiority (and the fantasy “history” that supports it), and that blind to how they are embodying every stereotype.

  52. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    May 4, 2010 - 3:59 pm | Permalink

    AngryJew says: “We didn’t write Machiavelli’s Prince, a Catholic did, and he’s been worshiped by European statesmen ever since. Before attacking Jewish ethics, why don’t you study up on your own!”

    Because we already did. In fact thanks to the culture of critique foisted on us by Jews we’ve been doing so to a new and unhealthy extreme for generations.

    The result was that those who were constantly critiqued, and who were sensitive to ethical criticism, withered, and their places were taken by Jews who were insensitive to moral criticism by non-Jews and who have been less ethical and far less concerned with the long-term good of non-Jewish Whites than the men they replaced as a ruling class.

    Everybody who’s reading Kevin MacDonald should already understand that pointing to the negative side of non-Jewish Whites having a dominating Jewish financial elite will spur Jewish demands that non-Jewish Whites look to their own sins first … and persistently, pervasively, and self-destructively in the long run.

    AngryJew says: “If MacDonald were an anthropologist, we’d expect him to do more than read about his subjects from a variety of sources. Whether detailed topographical maps of their location, charts of rainfall, to details about surrounding flora and fauna, at some stage we’d actually expect him to know his subjects FIRST HAND!”

    Plenty of very smart people have encountered actually existing Judaism up-close and personal over the ages and across the world and have come to verdicts as harsh as Kevin MacDonald’s or harsher. His contribution, which is great, has been to put the well-known data into a new and powerful theoretical framework based on Darwinism.

    If he was an anthropologist he’d have to do things in the way that anthropologists are required to do. He isn’t and he doesn’t.

    AngryJew says: “Jewish financial rapacity has little to do with negative perceptions of Goys. There is no need for elaboration about Jewish social pathology, which is easy to disprove with the largess of Jewish universalism.”

    Jewish financial rapacity is a familiar phenomenon with a long international history. There have been plenty of credible statements that it is associated with negative Jewish perceptions of non-Jews, and it makes sense, theoretically and intuitively, that it would be. Your mere denial has no weight.

    Jewish universalism is the very small brother of Jewish particularism.

    It’s no surprise that an angry Jew sees no need for non-Jews to comment on Jewish moral faults. This, combined with Jewish recommendations for non-Jews to focus on their own moral faults endlessly before beginning to address Jewish faults, is how we got into the fix we’re in.

    AngryJew says: “When Jews get in Jews way, Jews get kicked out of the way. There is no special venom reserved for the Goy, simply the Goy interprets his misfortune in Anti-Semitic terms. For an “expert” on Jews, MacDonald again displays a poverty of familiarity with his chosen subject.”

    When rapacious Jewish financiers associate with each other some of their victims are bound to be members of the in-group, just as when Black gang-bangers associate with each other the list of their victims is bound to include some of each other.

    This pales by comparison with their effect on out-groups, whether it’s non-Jewish Whites having to accommodate themselves to Jewish control of Wall Street or White flight when Black gangs take over a neighborhood. The effects of aggressive in-groups on out-groups generate clashes of interest.

    Rather than looking at the real clashes of interest and accepting that non-Jewish dislike of Jewish control of resources is rational, Jews prefer to pathologize the opposition, with the label antisemitism.

    And Kevin MacDonald is quite familiar with his subject.

    AngryJew says: “Why don’t you actually show some numbers, do an empirical study to prove some over-representation of Jews among white collar criminals. And don’t try to cheat the numbers without taking into account the overrepresented for Jews among the white collar to begin with!!”

    In other words: go away and don’t come back till you have lots of unavailable numbers, which I would just dismiss anyway as I’ve met the rest of your evidence with mere denial. And don’t try to cheat me, you crooked non-Jew!!

    AngryJew says: “Personally I find the basic premise of the article ersatz. History demonstrates that virtually anyone with power trends towards crime. Jews possess the rare moral integrity disabusing this trend. This is the secret of our success. It’s what accounts for our trustworthiness and efficiency, and why governments always protect their Jews against raging lunacy of the masses.”

    That merits only laughter.

    AngryJew says: “We didn’t write the Prince, your people did. Nor did we worship his work, like your Goy Kings and Queens did until a few decades ago. Tacitus can express his ignorance of Jewish ethics all he wants. But you – the Enlightened of the 21st century should tread more carefully. If Tacitus could turn a blind eye to Germanicus, Nero, and Caligula, you should know better.”

    Ditto.

  53. dan neil's Gravatar dan neil
    May 4, 2010 - 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I am happy to see so many post comments on both sides it shows people are reading these great essays and articles. The seed wil be planted when they see in the media a zionist thief a moral issue regarding jews left untouched while the gentile lmbasted. They will see through the veil into the temple of the syagouge of Satan( as William Blake referred to them).

  54. Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
    May 4, 2010 - 1:13 pm | Permalink

    I attended a panel discussion given at the Yivo institute for Jewish research in Jan. 09. Michael Steinhardt was on the panel of six and stated that “our people” run Wall Street. I’ve never heard that Steinhardt was given to hyperbole.

  55. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    May 4, 2010 - 11:28 am | Permalink

    Critique of Rushton:Could r Selection Account for the African Personality and Life Cycle?

    Blacks are from humid west africa and are not adapted to the savanna the only Africansn who can be said to be are the Khoisan

  56. Eileen's Gravatar Eileen
    May 4, 2010 - 10:53 am | Permalink

    Off the immediate topic here: there’s a really interesting, well-written article in The New York about Haim Saban entitled “The Influencer.” WELL worth the read.

  57. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    May 4, 2010 - 10:33 am | Permalink

    From what I can make out John Paulson was frustrated at the dearth of bad loans to make crappy CDOs to bet against so he gave 15 million to a non- profit Center for Responsible Lending (CRL) which got things moving. He then picked the very worst ones and:-

    the Wall Street bank now part of JP Morgan Chase, turned down a similarly structured deal to the one under scrutiny between Paulson & Co and Goldman Sachs because it “didn’t pass the ethics standards”.

    The bank, which collapsed during the credit crisis, “smelled trouble” when John Paulson, the hedge fund’s founder, approached it with the idea of creating an investment that the fund could bet against, according to author Gregory Zuckerman in his book on Paulson, The Greatest Trade Ever.

    Scott Eichel, a senior Bear Stearns trader, met Paulson to discuss the creation of a CDO (collateralised debt obligation, the toxic financial instrument at the heart of the credit crunch), but feared the hedge fund would push for especially risky mortgage assets to be put into it. He likened it to a gambler asking an American football team owner to bench a star quarterback so that he could bet against the team, the book says

  58. May 4, 2010 - 7:48 am | Permalink

    [Apollonian commentary in below-copied text, capped, bracketed. A.]

    * * * * *

    AngryJew says:
    May 4, 2010 at 6:38 AM

    “We didn’t write Machiavelli’s Prince, [IT’S ACTUALLY A NEAT BOOK–I DOUBT THIS BRAINLESS JEW HIMSELF EVEN READ IT. OLD NICK MERELY GOES ON TELLING HOW THE MONARCHIST (DISTINCT FM REPUBLICAN–WHICH MACHIAVELLI HIMSELF PREFERS) MIGHT WELL ACT TO ENHANCE AND PRESERVE HIS POWER, SPEAKING OF ETHICS IN MANNER NOT HOW IT “COULD BE” OR “SHOULD BE”–BUT REAL-POLITIK–HOW IT ACTUALLY IS–AS MACHIAVELLI HIMSELF HAD OBSERVED THROUGH HIS EXPERIENCE. AND MACHIAVELLI VERY MUCH USES CESARE BORGIA (SON OF SPANISH POPE ALEX VI, I BELIEVE) AS HIS EXEMPLAR AS TO HOW SUCH THINGS WORK.]

    “…a Catholic did, and he’s been worshiped by European statesmen [YES, BUT THAT’S BECAUSE MACHIAVELLI WAS (A) BRILLIANT OBSERVER FOR SUCH POWER-POLITICS, AND (B) HE MOST EXCELLENTLY SUMMARIZED AND ORDERED THE PRINCIPLES FOR SUCH POLITICS SO FOLKS COULD UNDERSTAND HOW AND WHY THINGS WORK.]

    “…ever since. Before attacking Jewish ethics, why don’t you study up on your own! [JEW “ETHICS” IS HELP UR FELLOW JEW(S) LIE AND CHEAT, ROB, AND MURDER GENTILES, ALL IN ACCORD W. TALMUD (SEE RevisionistHistory.org AND Come-and-hear.com FOR BEST TALMUDIC EXPO). WESTERN ETHICS UNDERSTANDS THE BROAD SUBJECT AND CIRCUMSTANCES IN FULLEST ACCORD W. REASON, CHRISTIANS THEN UP-HOLDING VALUE AND PRINCIPLE OF TRUTH, HENCE HONESTY AS HIGHEST VIRTUE–THIS IN CONTRA-DISTINCTION TO JEW LIES AND CONSPIRACY (SEE GOSP. JOHN).]

    “If MacDonald were an anthropologist, we’d expect him to do more than read about his subjects from a variety of sources. Whether detailed topographical maps of their location, charts of rainfall, to details about surrounding flora and fauna, at some stage we’d actually expect him to know his subjects FIRST HAND! [HOW DO U KNOW HE DOESN’T?]

    “Jewish financial rapacity has little to do with negative perceptions of Goys. [THIS IS JUST A TYPICAL JEW LIE, UTTERLY UN-FOUNDED, AND NOTE THE JEW DOESN’T EVEN BOTHER GIVING SLIGHTEST REFERENCE OR EXAMPLES.]

    “There is no need for elaboration about Jewish social pathology, which is easy to disprove with the largess of Jewish universalism. [OH–SO A LITTLE SHAM “CHARITY” FOR THE GOY COVERS-UP AND EXCUSES JEW MASS-MURDER, ETC.]

    “When Jews get in Jews way, Jews get kicked out of the way. [INDEED, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE TRUTH, AS CHRIST INDICATED–“THERE IS NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES,” TRULY, IS THERE? FOR ONCE JEW PARASITES DESTROY GENTILE HOST, THEY MUST BEGIN TO IN-FIGHTING THEMSELVES, EH?–THUS IT’S TRULY CYCLIC PROCESS, AS IN “DECLINE OF THE WEST,” BY OSWALD SPENGLER.]

    “There is no special venom reserved for the Goy, [THIS IS GROSS, TRANSPARENT LIE–PROVEN FM TALMUD–SEE RevisionistHistory.org AND Come-and-hear.com.]

    “…simply the Goy interprets his misfortune in Anti-Semitic terms. [JEWS ARE PSYCHOPATHS (TALMUDISTS, BY DEFINITION), AND HONEST GENTILES PROPERLY KICK AND CURSE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY REALIZE HORRIFIC FOOLS THEY WERE TO EVER TRUST JEW, IMAGINING THEY’RE HUMAN.]

    “For an “expert” on Jews, MacDonald again displays a poverty of familiarity with his chosen subject. [PROF. MACDONALD LIBERALLY CITES NUMEROUS SOURCES, REFERENCES, WORKS, ETC.; U HAVE NO COMPLAINT, JEW, AND NOTE ACADEMIA IS THOROUGHLY INFESTED W. JEWS. AT NMSU (NEW MEXICO STATE) WHERE I WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL, OF 20-22 TEACHERS IN HIST. DEPT. THERE, AT LEAST 7-8 OF THEM WERE JEWS–WE KNOW JEWS TOO WELL–CANNOT HELP HATING THEM.]

    “Why don’t you actually show some numbers, [WHAT DO U WANT?–JEWS ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE FINANCE–VIRTUALLY ALL FED CHAIRMEN HAVE BEEN JEWS, TREASURY SECRETARIES ARE TYPICALLY JEW, COUNCIL ON ECONOMIC ADVISERS ARE HEAVILY JEW, ETC.]

    “…do an empirical study to prove some over-representation of Jews among white collar criminals. [“EMPIRICAL STUDIES” ARE DONE IN NEWS (WHEN THE INFO IS DIVULGED AND NOT COVERED UP), JEWS DOMINATING SO TREMENDOUSLY–ONLY JEWS COULD POSSIBLY BE ON TOP OF ANY SCAMS AND CRIMINALITY–THERE SIMPLY ARE NO GENTILES WHO COULD BRING OFF CRIMINALITY WITHOUT JEW COOPERATION AND OVERSIGHT, CUTTING JEWS IN FOR LION-SHARE.]

    “And don’t try to cheat the numbers without taking into account the overrepresented for Jews among the white collar to begin with!! [OH, RIGHT–SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL U IN THE FIRST PLACE?]

    “Personally I find the basic premise of the article ersatz. [YES, WELL WE ALREADY KNOW FM PAST EXPERIENCE JEWS ARE SCUM AND CRIMINALS BY NATURE–BUT IT’S GOOD TO RE-CONFIRM IN SPECIFIC TERMS, IN SPECIFIC INSTANCES.]

    “History demonstrates that virtually anyone with power trends towards crime. Jews possess the rare moral integrity disabusing this trend. [THIS IS JUST ANOTHER IDIOTIC LIE–GAD, BUT U JEWS JUST BLITHELY LIE LIKE U BREATHE OXYGEN, DON’T U?]

    “This is the secret of our success. [AHHH–NOW THIS IS INTERESTING. JEWS ARE JUST PARASITE DISEASE-OF-OPPORTUNITY, AS I’VE NOTED, WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HUBRISTIC, CORRUPT GENTILE CULTURE DEGENERATED IN MORALISM-PHARISAISM, AS WHEN NORTHERN FASCISTS/STATISTS IN USA DECIDED TO GENOCIDE THE SOUTH WHICH WANTED TO SECEDE BACK IN MID-19TH CENTURY, I SUBMIT.]

    “It’s what accounts for our trustworthiness [YES, JEWS CAN BE TRUSTED TO BE CRIMINALS, FRAUDS, LIARS, AND MASS-MURDERERS–AS ALL HISTORY DEMONSTRATES–IT’S WHY JEWS ARE LOVED SO MUCH AND UNIVERSALLY BY GENTILES, RIGHT?–KICKED OUT OF EVERY NATION, THROUGHOUT HISTORY.]

    “…and efficiency, and why governments always protect their Jews against raging lunacy of the masses. [YES, THE POOR PEOPLE COULDN’T STAND BLOOD-SUCKING JEWS WHO TYPICALLY WORKED FOR THE TOP RULERS–AS OF THE OLD POLISH KINGDOM-EMPIRE. AND FRED THE GREAT OF PRUSSIA NOTED HE COULD COUNT ON JEWS TO EXTRACT EVERY CENT IN TAXES FM THE PEOPLE, AS JEWS WERE SO HATED, DEPENDENT UPON FRED FOR THEIR PROTECTION.]

    “We didn’t write the Prince, [WELL OF COURSE NOT, U’RE FUNDAMENTALLY INCAPABLE OF HONESTY–U NEVER TELL TRUTH WITHOUT TELLING SOME LIES TO GO ALONG.]

    “…your people did. Nor did we worship his work, like your Goy Kings and Queens did until a few decades ago. Tacitus can express his ignorance of Jewish ethics all he wants. But you – the Enlightened of the 21st century should tread more carefully. [YES, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT “SAMSON OPTION,” DON’T WE?]

    If Tacitus could turn a blind eye to Germanicus, Nero, and Caligula, [HE ACTUALLY DIDN’T–AS USUAL, U DON’T KNOW WHAT U PRETEND TO BE TALKING ABOUT.]

    “…you should know better.” [WELL, I ALREADY GAVE PROF. AN “A” FOR HIS EXCELLENT WORK.]

  59. May 4, 2010 - 6:59 am | Permalink

    I found the Steinweis book about Third Reich Era German racial science to be exceptionally objective and informative. In this perverse day and age, and coming from a likely Jewish author, Steinweis’ study is really quite good. I even recommended it to Kevin when it first came out -Junghans says: May 3, 2010 at 10:21 PM

    * * * * *

    Steinweis Book, “Studying The Jew,” Typical Jewwy Production, Mercifully Short
    (Apollonian, 4 May 10)

    I read the Steinweis book, “Studying The Jew”–it’s typical Jew production featuring Pharisaist self-righteousness and retailing same Jew lies asserting Germans “murdered” Jews in holohoax. Jews are liars, of course, who cannot restrain themselves fm lies and lying, addicted to lies. And problem is, as always, when u tell one lie, how can we know u’re not lying for everything else too?

    Steinweis tells us a bit about German race-science and scientists, esp. by way of brief personal biographies w. typical, fatuous, Jewwy commentary attached.

    But worst thing–and most interesting thing, I found–was how Steinweis CURSED the good Germans who educated the people about the Jew Talmud, Steinweis defending the Talmud, pretending it doesn’t say anything bad about gentiles. Steinweis hates people who say anything “bad” about Talmud, filthy Jew.

    CONCLUSION: Steinweis is typical, scummy, lying, gentile-hating Jew. Thankfully, the work is short (about 160 pages). Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  60. admin's Gravatar admin
    May 4, 2010 - 6:56 am | Permalink

    @ Riley DeWiley: That’s an important point. I’ve been looking for evidence that there was a guru of CDO–someone who preached it and sold it to the rating agencies as a triple A investment even with all the crappy mortgages in them. Kevin M

  61. AngryJew's Gravatar AngryJew
    May 4, 2010 - 6:38 am | Permalink

    We didn’t write Machiavelli’s Prince, a Catholic did, and he’s been worshiped by European statesmen ever since. Before attacking Jewish ethics, why don’t you study up on your own!

    If MacDonald were an anthropologist, we’d expect him to do more than read about his subjects from a variety of sources. Whether detailed topographical maps of their location, charts of rainfall, to details about surrounding flora and fauna, at some stage we’d actually expect him to know his subjects FIRST HAND!

    Jewish financial rapacity has little to do with negative perceptions of Goys. There is no need for elaboration about Jewish social pathology, which is easy to disprove with the largess of Jewish universalism.

    When Jews get in Jews way, Jews get kicked out of the way. There is no special venom reserved for the Goy, simply the Goy interprets his misfortune in Anti-Semitic terms. For an “expert” on Jews, MacDonald again displays a poverty of familiarity with his chosen subject.

    Why don’t you actually show some numbers, do an empirical study to prove some over-representation of Jews among white collar criminals. And don’t try to cheat the numbers without taking into account the overrepresented for Jews among the white collar to begin with!!

    Personally I find the basic premise of the article ersatz. History demonstrates that virtually anyone with power trends towards crime. Jews possess the rare moral integrity disabusing this trend. This is the secret of our success. It’s what accounts for our trustworthiness and efficiency, and why governments always protect their Jews against raging lunacy of the masses.

    We didn’t write the Prince, your people did. Nor did we worship his work, like your Goy Kings and Queens did until a few decades ago. Tacitus can express his ignorance of Jewish ethics all he wants. But you – the Enlightened of the 21st century should tread more carefully. If Tacitus could turn a blind eye to Germanicus, Nero, and Caligula, you should know better.

  62. Dave Coe's Gravatar Dave Coe
    May 4, 2010 - 12:12 am | Permalink
  63. Riley DeWiley's Gravatar Riley DeWiley
    May 3, 2010 - 10:45 pm | Permalink

    K-MacD:

    If you read Stewart carefully you will see that Michael Milken was the Grand Rabbi of a classic Jewish intellectual cult … all the signs were there.

    There are other little cult-lets. One was around Dr. Bruno Bettelheim.

    Riley

  64. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    May 3, 2010 - 10:21 pm | Permalink

    I found the Steinweis book about Third Reich Era German racial science to be exceptionally objective and informative. In this perverse day and age, and coming from a likely Jewish author, Steinweis’ study is really quite good. I even recommended it to Kevin when it first came out

  65. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    May 3, 2010 - 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Finrod:”I don’t believe that Jews have any genetic predisposition to financial crimes, any greater than any other subgroup…”

    READ:

    “Steinweis surveys German studies that implicated Jews in economic crimes and crimes against morality (Sittlichkeitsver­brechern). Ironically, as Steinweis notes (p. 138), it was a Jew, the Italian crim­inologist Caesare Lombroso, who invented the concept of the “born criminal.” J. Keller and Hanns Andersen used Lombroso’s idea in their book The Jew as Crim­inal, in which Jews were described as “born to crime” and possessing a special pre­disposition to and ability for fraud, dirty dealing, dishonest gambling, usury, sexual transgressions of all kinds, pick pocketing, and treason. As Steinweis points out, neither of the authors had academic credentials of any sort, nor were they associated with any university. However, Johann von Leers, a trained jurist holding a professor­ship in history at Jena University, did publish a booklet, The Crimin­ality of the Jews, in which he presented statistics showing a disproportionately high Jewish participation in white-collar crime. Jews were 12 times more likely than non-Jews to be involved in usury; 11 times more likely to engage in the theft of intellectual property; 8–9 times as likely to declare fraudulent bankruptcy. Between 1903 and 1936, Leers noted, the frequency of Jewish participation in usury was 29 times that of non-Jews.” – http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Michaels-Steinweis.html

  66. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    May 3, 2010 - 9:07 pm | Permalink

    And did anyone else notice that Obama just nominated 3 more Jews to the Federal Reserve even though the FED is already stacked and stuffed with Jews?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/business/29fed.html

    Obama just nominated Janet Yellen (Jewish), Peter A. Diamond (Jewish), and Sarah Bloom Raskin (Jewish) — this despite the fact that the FED is already disproportionately Jewish by an astronomical margin.

    If you didn’t know better you’d think 90% of America’s population is Jewish judging from their gross over-representation in the highest echelons of American banking, business, mass-media, academia, etc.

  67. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    May 3, 2010 - 8:56 pm | Permalink

    NPR radio report on the Atlantic story Dr MacDonald referenced – http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126310251 – “Is Criticism Of Goldman Really Anti-Semitism?”

  68. Zeitgeist's Gravatar Zeitgeist
    May 3, 2010 - 8:54 pm | Permalink

    The Jews are our undoing. They must be stopped.

  69. Art's Gravatar Art
    May 3, 2010 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Philippe Rushton’s Race, Evolution and Behavior is one of the ten most important books I have read (out of hundreds).

    Re Jews in academe, Gould was a full professor at Harvard and denied that race exists. His field? Biology. That knocks it for me.

  70. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    May 3, 2010 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    admin says: “Re Bantam: The issue is the sheer percentages of these crimes perpetrated by Jews and their legitimacy within the Jewish community. […] We have to explain that.”

    I think part of the explanation is in-group charity, with Jews traditionally not being part of gentile charitable networks, e.g. the Catholic Church wasn’t providing Jewish funeral rites. It doesn’t take much money for wealthy Jews to render themselves morally bulletproof, and there’s nothing cynical about that. Wealthy Jews consider consolidating the identity of poorer Jews and taking account of their needs a worthy use of their money. For many Jews feeling a bit estranged from the world of the “exile” and aware of where charity for people like them comes from, it would take a remarkable lack of ethnocentrism for them not to want the business ethics of big providers to be “off the table” and of no interest.

    Jews are not noted for any remarkable lack of ethnocentrism.

  71. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    May 3, 2010 - 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Aaron says: “2. Using phrases like “purely instrumental” belies the implicit claim to rational analysis of the article.”

    I agree that “purely” was a mistake. It invites nit-picking and adds nothing.

  72. May 3, 2010 - 5:57 pm | Permalink

    “Please stop citing Rushton, he is the modern equivalent of Carlton Coon in that his evolutionary theorizing is considered just plain wrong, even preposterous, by experts.” -Someday says: May 3, 2010 at 2:45 PM

    * * * * *

    Presumptuous “Someday” Wastes Readers’ Time With Brainlessness
    (Apollonian, 3 May 10)

    “Someday,” ur inferior, brainlessly presumptuous, Jew-friendly sort of mentality says nothing in above quote.

    If a theory is wrong, u must say why and how in specific terms.

    “Experts?”–says who?–and why are they so considered?–by what criterion? Pt. is second-hand fool like u is merely taking someone’s word, merely because a sap like u is persuaded they’re “expert”?–because someone else “says so”?

    CONCLUSION: First, u need to read and see what Rushton says, and if he’s wrong, u have to say HOW AND WHY. Pls quit cluttering the blog w. stupidity. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  73. May 3, 2010 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    “What says KM: does Wall Street serve “any positive social function”? Traditional Catholicism, Islam and German NS were all opposed to usury/interest/riba and financial speculation. Is there a sociobiological reason for that?” -HA says: May 3, 2010 at 1:06 PM

    * * * * *

    Note “Usury” Is Notorious Buzz-Word Requiring Careful Definition
    (Apollonian, 3 May 10)

    “HA”: note it’s mere matter of careful DEFINITION OF TERMS. Note then “usury” is gross buzz-word used for several DIFFERENT things–and which Jews have great fun with confused gentiles, Jews most consummate frauds, liars, and cheats, in accord w. their infernal, Satanic Talmud which urges war and fraud against gentiles.

    (a) Charging of interest is strict matter of CONTRACT which should be right of citizens on individual basis. If someone is willing to pay a “high” rate of interest in order to acquire capital, that’s his right–it’s strictly private matter btwn parties.

    (b) But “usury” is also and properly used in pejorative sense in reference to what’s now called “fractional-reserve money and banking,” also “central banking” (see RealityZone.com and TheMoneyMasters.com for expo/ref.), whereby tokens or receipts of (PAPER) “money” are lent out, the backing gold or silver (or whatever commodity) kept in reserve being static relative to evermore replicated (COUNTERFEITED) receipts/tokens being lent, these then replicated FAR IN EXCESS of what is actually kept (in gold or silver, etc.) in “reserve” on hand, as presently.

    Ron Paul (CampaignForLiberty.com), Tom Woods, Lew Rockwell (LewRockwell.com), and the “Austrian School” (Mises.com) of economics all give detailed expo and history on these items and terms. “Central banking” has been curse of West since French Revolution and rise of Rothschild bankers ever since. Jews were allowed back into England by Oliver Cromwell in mid-17th cent. and Bank of England was established in 1696.

    CONCLUSION: All reputable, rational culture, Christian, Islamic, etc., but NOT Jew, makes FRAUD illegal–and this fraud is precisely what is present US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed), a crass, putrid COUNTERFEITING scam (“central banking,” again)–but note again, charging of interest is entirely SEPARATE issue. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  74. Darren's Gravatar Darren
    May 3, 2010 - 3:49 pm | Permalink

    By “experts” do you mean Boasian anthropologists, Lamarckians, and clowns like Stephen Jay Gould and Leowontin? Hmm?

  75. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    May 3, 2010 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Please stop citing Rushton, he is the modern equivalent of Carlton Coon in that his evolutionary theorizing is considered just plain wrong, even preposterous, by experts.

    ‘Jewish lightning’ seems to be a recurrent theme; insure and deliberately burn out the investment of others.

  76. Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
    May 3, 2010 - 2:16 pm | Permalink

    The question is if the fraud issue extends into science. Are Jewish scientists/scholars genuinely seeking “truth” or is there another, parallel, name of the game?

  77. HA's Gravatar HA
    May 3, 2010 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    What says KM: does Wall Street serve “any positive social function”? Traditional Catholicism, Islam and German NS were all opposed to usury/interest/riba and financial speculation. Is there a sociobiological reason for that?

  78. John Stonehouse's Gravatar John Stonehouse
    May 3, 2010 - 11:32 am | Permalink

    For most of us who cannot remember pre WW2 times and the roots of European anti-semitism, perhaps the best analogy to the American financial meltdown is the looting of post-communist Russia by the Jewish ‘oligarchs’ with a nod and wink from the corrupt Boris Yeltsin and ‘advised’ by ‘smart Harvard economist’, the Jew,Jeffrey Sachs.

  79. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    May 3, 2010 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/01/goldman-sachs-lloyd-blank_n_559606.html (video excerpt –scroll down for comments)

    http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10989 (full video)

    Nauseating on both their parts: Blankfein and Rose.

  80. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    May 3, 2010 - 9:39 am | Permalink

    Professor MacDonald,
    Finrod,

    Please click each word of my comment, which was in sarcastic mode.

  81. May 3, 2010 - 9:11 am | Permalink

    “The difference is that the corrupt, post-Christian establishment (Right and Left) acquiesces to Jewry because it is in bed with them on so many levels, from politics to Zionism to financial shenanigans, whereas the Crips and Bloods are treated like pariahs because they are street criminals with little political or economic power.” -Chris Moore says: May 3, 2010 at 8:37 AM

    * * * * *

    Criminal Hold Over USA Is “All In The Mind,” Literally
    (Apollonian, 3 May 10)

    “Chris”: once again, u hit nail on proverbial “head.” Observe that over-whelming, absolutely INVINCIBLE Fed COUNTERFEIT scam/mechanism/operation LITERALLY buys the very souls of practically everyone, anyone not co-operating is assassinated.

    That’s why present politicians will vote for “amnesty” for illegal alien invaders–EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE AGAINST IT by incredible margins of up to 80%, even more–they’re simply bribed by infinite funds which are simply COUNTERFEITED (printed) up, literally, and they know if they DON’T go along, they will be dis-elected or out-rightly killed.

    Thus Jews (and accomplices) literally CONTROL every single establishment Christian church without exception; they lobotomize the youth in public-“education,” and then continue the programming/indoctrination of entire culture/society by means of “Jews-media.” Thanks goodness for mighty internet and bloggers like Prof. MacDonald.

    IT’S FOOL-PROOF–until the ZOG-Mammon empire-of-lies system has to CYCLICALLY collapse due to over-use of COUNTERFEIT racket, as we see, US Dollar about to collapse–but still, look how brilliantly it cooked along for almost 100 years.

    People need to snap out of this prison of ABSTRACTIONS dis-connected fm CONCRETE reality by which they can’t see through this HUGE, incredible “BIG-LIE” of Fed fraud.

    CONCLUSION: Similarly, folks, esp. moronic “Judeo-Christian” (JC–see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists, KEY to Judeo-conspiracy presently holding entire nation in thrall, need to face-up to simple fact dear Christianity is SUPPOSED to be ANTI-SEMITIC (anti-Talmud, as Gosp.s MARK 7:1-3 and MATT 15:3-9). Christ was NOT “Jew” (Talmudist), and if u’re NOT anti-semitic, u aren’t and can’t be Christian, pilgrim. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  82. May 3, 2010 - 9:08 am | Permalink

    @ Aaron: “I’m sure blacks commit almost all of the NBA basketball fouls, but the right thing to compare is the foul rate among black NBA players with the foul rate among white NBA players.”

    Not when corrupt Jews, Dispensationalist Zionists, and Judeophile liberals comprise the referee squad and its bosses, who order them to almost never blow the whistle on Jews, or allow Jews to drag out appeals and obfuscations every time a Jew is called foul.

    The game is rigged by Jewish supremacists of Left and Right. Jewish supremacists are the problem, and Jewish supremacy in America must be dealt with on no uncertain terms.

  83. Finrod's Gravatar Finrod
    May 3, 2010 - 8:44 am | Permalink

    @Bantam:

    Sure there are fraudsters from all groups, dating back to the earliest days of Wall Street. The actual Ponzi was not himself Jewish. I don’t believe that Jews have any genetic predisposition to financial crimes, any greater than any other subgroup, but there is something about Jewish moral particularism that makes it so much more dangerous. When gentiles are crooks, they are isolated cases which are condemned by society at large. However, if crooks are condoned or actually supported by their ingroup, then this makes for more damaging extended crime networks, ultimately these fraud leviathans such as Madoff and possibly Goldman-Sachs, that have been cropping up in recent years.

    @ Focus:

    That’s an interesting anecdote. Are you the same guy who used to work in visual effects in the film industry?

  84. May 3, 2010 - 8:37 am | Permalink

    I have found that the Jewish Zionists (and many other elements in organized Jewry e.g. the Postville Jews) seek to hid behind all Jews in order to excuse or obscure their own criminal behavior.

    They operate as merely a more sophisticated and elaborate form of the Crips and the Bloods, and their shouts of “anti-Semitism” are akin to black gang-bangers running a crack house shouting “racism” as they’re put into the back of a police car.

    The difference is that the corrupt, post-Christian establishment (Right and Left) acquiesces to Jewry because it is in bed with them on so many levels, from politics to Zionism to financial shenanigans, whereas the Crips and Bloods are treated like pariahs because they are street criminals with little political or economic power.

    So America will eventually either have to mainstream and legalize the criminalism of the Crips and Bloods, or outlaw the criminal Jews. Given the insanity of our rulers, we all know which way they’re planning to go, don’t we? (Hint: mass amnesty, anyone?)

  85. May 3, 2010 - 8:28 am | Permalink

    [Apollonian commentary in below-copied text, capped, bracketed. A.]

    * * * * *

    Aaron says:
    May 2, 2010 at 8:07 PM

    “Here are some things that would have improved the argument. [THIS IS MERELY UR OPINION, AND U GIVE NO CRITERION. NOTE THE ARGUMENT MUST BE REASONABLY BRIEF ENOUGH TO BE READABLE, AT SAME TIME IT MUST CONTAIN ENOUGH FACTS TO SUPPORT THESIS AND CONCLUSION. I GIVE PROF. MACDONALD AN “A,” AS HE SUPPORTS HIS CONTENTION QUITE WELL. NOTE THERE’S STRICT SCIENCE, WHICH WAS EXCELLENT, AND THEN THERE’S THE ART OF EXPO, WHICH WAS ALSO OUTSTANDING. PROF. MAC WELL-EARNED HIS PAY–AND THEN SOME.]

    “1. There was no comparison of Jews in the financial sector to non-Jews in similar positions in the financial sector. [PROBLEM IS JEWS ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE FINANCE–IT SIMPLY ISN’T POSSIBLE TO COMPARE. ALL THE GENTILES ARE IN SUBORDINATE POSITIONS TO JEWS, HENCE NECESSARILY GO ALONG, FOLLOWING ORDERS. USA IS A CORPORATE-FASCIST DICTATORSHIP W. JEWS IN COMMAND POSITIONS, NEVER FORGET. OBSERVE THE VERY FUNDAMENTAL FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT IS COUNTERFEIT SCAM KNOWN AS FEDERAL RESERVE BANK–SEE RealityZone.com AND TheMoneyMasters.com. FOR EXPO/REF. ON FED FRAUD.]

    “Analogously, I’m sure blacks commit almost all of the NBA basketball fouls, but the right thing to compare is the foul rate among black NBA players with the foul rate among white NBA players.

    “2. Using phrases like “purely instrumental” belies the implicit claim to rational analysis of the article. It’s just propaganda. Besides being wrong (hardly anything is “pure”), the article could make the point as well or better without this kind of hyperbole.

    “3. Where’s the evidence that these Jewish Wall Street types preyed specifically on non-Jews? [PROF. DOESN’T NECESSARILY MAKE THIS CLAIM. WELL-KNOWN FACT IS TOP JEWS ROUTINELY VICTIMIZE LOWER-LEVEL JEWS WHEN NEED ARISES–AND LOWER-LEVEL JEWS WILLINGLY ALLOW THIS, MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEIR BEING VICTIMIZED AS LONG AS GENTILES ARE VICTIMIZED MORE.]

    “I’m not saying they didn’t, only that it would have been nice to see some evidence. [U HAVE PLENTY OF EVIDENCE FOR JEW CRIMINALITY–ALL HISTORY IS EVIDENCE. TALMUD ITSELF IS THE MASTER-PLAN OF WARFARE AGAINST GENTILES WHICH JEWS FOLLOW AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE, JEWS BEING JEWS (TALMUDISTS).]

    Bernie Madoff famously preyed almost exclusively on Jewish investors. [RIGHT, BUT THIS DOESN’T CHANGE ANYTHING, AND IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. AGAIN, TOP-LEVEL JEWS NOTORIOUSLY PREY UPON LOWER-LEVEL JEWS WHENEVER NECESSARY. PARASITES EVENTUALLY KILL THE HOST; THEN PARASITES MUST KILL EACH OTHER. SUCH IS THE CYCLIC NATURE OF BIOLOGY, SOCIOLOGY, AND HISTORY, ACCORDING TO OSWALD SPENGLER IN “DECLINE OF THE WEST.”]

    “Common sense [YES, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS INDUCTIVE LOGIC]

    “…tells me that there is a connection between being Jewish [TALMUDIC PSYCHOPATHS AND MURDERERS]

    “…and committing this kind of crime, [TALMUD IS LITERALLY WAR-PLAN AGAINST GENTILE HUMANITY.]

    “…but this article doesn’t take things much beyond a statement of common sense.” [SO WHAT? THE THESIS WAS PROVEN, JEWS WORKING TO BENEFIT JEWS AGAINST NON-JEWS. THERE ARE INDEED OTHER NOTES TO BE MADE (AS I MADE, ABOVE), BUT THE ARTICLE WELL DEMONSTRATED THESIS NONETHELESS. PROF. DESERVES AN “A,” AND U DESERVE MERE “C-,” I SAY.]

  86. admin's Gravatar admin
    May 3, 2010 - 8:12 am | Permalink

    Re Bantam: The issue is the sheer percentages of these crimes perpetrated by Jews and their legitimacy within the Jewish community. As Thomas says, “If I point out that nine out of 10 people involved in street crimes are black, that’s an interesting sociological observation. If I point out that nine out of 10 people involved in securities indictments are Jewish, that is an anti-Semitic slur. I cannot sort out the difference. . . .” We have to explain that.

  87. May 3, 2010 - 8:08 am | Permalink

    [Apollonian commentary in below-copied text, capped, bracketed. A.]

    * * * * *

    chubby says:
    May 2, 2010 at 8:37 PM

    “You claim the WASPs would never have committed such crimes. [OBVIOUSLY FALSE.]

    “Perhaps. Then again, they had no problem importing a million or so Africans [THIS SLAVE BUSINESS WAS LITERALLY MONOPOLIZED BY JEWS AS NUMEROUS SOURCES CONFIRM. AMONG EUROPEANS IT WAS ONLY VERY, VERY FEW BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO TOOK PART IN SUCH SLAVERY. NOTE FURTHER, IT WAS BLACKS WHO ORIGINALLY TOOK OTHER BLACKS AS SLAVES, THEN SOLD THEM TO VARIOUS PEOPLE, LIKE ARABS. WHITES WERE LATE-COMERS TO AFRICAN SLAVE BUSINESS.]

    “…whom they knew would unassimilable and would cause their progeny no end of problems. They just did not care, because they were too interested in solving their short term problems not about what might happen in a hundred years or so. They were selfish [ALL PEOPLE ARE SELFISH, AS BEING CREATURES OF WILL, ONE IS NATURALLY “SELFISH” AND SELF-INTERESTED BY DEFINITION AND NATURE–IT’S WHY CHRISTIANS HOLD HUMANS ARE “SINFUL” BY NATURE.]

    “…and short-sighted in the extreme. We would not be in as perilous a position now had they a little (and I do mean just a little) more foresight and concern. If Whites survive we must base our future government on an explicitly racial basis.” [I SAY WE WHITES SHOULD FOUND OUR SOCIETY AND ACTIVITY IN ACCORD W. REASON AND LOGIC–HENCE WE SHOULD REMOVE AND EXPEL JEWS AND OTHER PSYCHOPATHS AND CRIMINALS.]

  88. May 3, 2010 - 7:29 am | Permalink

    Facts Of Jew Behavior Confirm Perfectly Talmudic Hatred And War Against Humanity, Reason, Truth, Etc.
    (Apollonian, 3 May 10)

    Prof. MacDonald does more excellent work, once again simply defending, demonstrating, and exerting science and INDUCTIVE LOGIC. Thus our good Prof. applies his trusty logic and keen observations to specific subject of Jew financial behavior and dealings as we are privileged to see in his excellent article.

    Thus detail, after detail, after fact, after fact, with no dis-confirming facts or details, THEN LEADS TO INDUCTIVE CONCLUSION–which now must be DIS-PROVEN for the conclusion not to be accepted as actual truth of reality. Or as Sherlock Holmes put it, “once u’ve eliminated the impossible, the remainder, no matter how unlikely, is necessary solution.”

    Such again, is the very scientific (Inductive) method demonstrated by Prof. Mac, who well confirms his fame. U. of Cal is lucky to have such exemplary scientist. Thus do lucky students learn fm such master–but Jews don’t like this–for a very understandable reason.

    So the facts and details all lead to INDUCTION (generalization) that Jews are simply an extended criminal gang/family–which all history of humankind CONFIRMS. Christ himself said of Jews: “ye are liars, sons of ur father, Satan, father of lies….” (Gosp. JOHN 8:44.)

    So now what do Jews say and tell us, and scream, as they jump up and down?

    Jews tell us that science and INDUCTIVE LOGIC (and conclusion) cannot be accepted on grounds of MORALISM-PHARISAISM. Thus we CANNOT and are NOT allowed to hold to any conclusion if it is un-favorable to Jews–as golly gee, it would be “anti-semitic.”

    As Immanuel Kant would have it, thus “moralism” TRUMPS truth and reality (or at least inductive logic, eh?). And golly gee, but do u see how such Jew-friendly “moralism” (anti-antisemitism) ALWAYS FAVORS Jews?–Sure is clever of these Jews, isn’t it?–they’re sooooooo “intelligent,” aren’t they?–they’re certainly quite clever, regardless, like any criminals, for sure–too clever, by half.

    Observe further: in PRECISELY same inductive manner, ALL EVIDENCE (see Bollyn.com) for 9-11 leads to INDUCTIVE conlusion Jews and Israeli MOSSAD perpetrated 9-11 mass-murder and continuing cover-up by political means and the Jew-controlled mass-corporate “Jews-media” (see http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/index.html).

    But again, Jews tell us all we can’t so hold Jews responsible (for 9-11) becasue, golly gee, that would be “anti-semitic.”

    So note then: INDUCTIVE LOGIC and all human reason are now “anti-semitic.” Thus “Decline of the West,” by Oswald Spengler is confirmed–but after awhile, it’s reduced-to-absurd, isn’t it?–for now it’s matter of survival of gentile people. Wake-up, people.

    So be it, I say. For Christians uphold TRUTH above all, co-equal w. Christ himself (Gosp. JOHN 14:6). Any proper “morality,” which is mere logic btwn ends and means, MUST BE SUBORDINATE TO TRUTH and reality.

    CONCLUSION: Comrades: we need JEW-EXPULSION; it’s long past time. And don’t forget Jews ARE NOT “white”–any more than are mestizos and mulattos. Jews ARE ENEMIES of white folk–and all humanity, don’t doubt. And and don’t forget FACTS of Jew behavior all correspond PERFECTLY with THEORY of Talmudic ritual murder (see RevisionistHistory.org and Come-and-hear.com for best Talmudic expo). Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

  89. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    May 3, 2010 - 7:17 am | Permalink
  90. Focus Ring's Gravatar Focus Ring
    May 3, 2010 - 12:40 am | Permalink

    Charles Martel, thanks for the links.

    Finrod, you may be interested in a story a friend of mine who’s a news cameraman told me. He isn’t really “into” the whole “jewish thing” yet, but he did say that the jews outside the courthouse when Madoff was on trial, was sentenced and so on were staged. He said the whole thing was like a stage play, with news producers arranging where they would stand, react. He said it actually scared him. These outraged victims were motored in day after day to be ready for their performances. By the way, my friend covers the stories he does because the jews think he’s a jew. He could pass as one and they assume his name, which is Irish, is some kind of swiped E. European name because of the spelling. This ties in with the observations and investigations that show jews didn’t really lose much of anything in the Madoff affair.

  91. Harumphty_Dumpty's Gravatar Harumphty_Dumpty
    May 2, 2010 - 10:47 pm | Permalink

    “Michael Kinsley wrote an article…’How to Think About: Jewish Bankers'”

    Titles like that seem to crack the facade slightly just in themselves. How many articles can be published on “Why the Emperor doesn’t not have any clothes” before people see the naked truth?

  92. OR's Gravatar OR
    May 2, 2010 - 9:56 pm | Permalink

    As I read that last phrase, ” … especially when it’s being run by a group of people who have sociopathic attitudes toward non-Jewish America.”, the first thing that came to mind was James H. Kunstler and his snarky references to “corn pone nazis”. Kunstler looks down from high on the mass of Americans as superfluities who no longer serve any instrumental purpose.

  93. May 2, 2010 - 9:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad that you raise the issue of extraction of wealth vs wealth creation through productive economic activity. This is a notion taken from classical economics that has been purged from most economics classes by Milton Friedman & the Chicago school.

    Former chief balance-of-payments economist for Citigroup, Michael Hudson, makes this a regular issue in his interviews and in his writings. I encourage those who are curious about this topic to check out the links I have embedded above.

  94. Finrod's Gravatar Finrod
    May 2, 2010 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Here is just some further data on this point. A show called “American Greed” on CNBC or one of those channels the other night reviewed the case of Shalom Weiss, who with the help of a New York law firm, would loot insurance companies, eventually stealing to the tune of 200 million. It had been one of the largest fraud cases before Madoff. Shalom Weiss was ostensibly a devout, orthodox Jew who would always sport a Yarmulke. I was struck how Jewish the whole affair was, although naturally the show didn’t comment on this detail. All the fraudsters were Jewish and all their defense lawyers were Jewish. Weiss fled after his conviction, but was eventually captured through use of a little deception. The pique of his defense lawyer on this point was comical.

    @Aaron: There is an article in the archives on this site arguing that Jews did not primarily lose money in the Madoff scandal, that this was just a media spin job.

  95. chubby's Gravatar chubby
    May 2, 2010 - 8:37 pm | Permalink

    You claim the WASPs would never have committed such crimes. Perhaps. Then again, they had no problem importing a million or so Africans whom they knew would unassimilable and would cause their progeny no end of problems. They just did not care, because they were too interested in solving their short term problems not about what might happen in a hundred years or so. They were selfish and short-sighted in the extreme. We would not be in as perilous a position now had they a little (and I do mean just a little) more foresight and concern. If Whites survive we must base our future government on an explicitly racial basis.

  96. Aaron's Gravatar Aaron
    May 2, 2010 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Here are some things that would have improved the argument.

    1. There was no comparison of Jews in the financial sector to non-Jews in similar positions in the financial sector. Analogously, I’m sure blacks commit almost all of the NBA basketball fouls, but the right thing to compare is the foul rate among black NBA players with the foul rate among white NBA players.

    2. Using phrases like “purely instrumental” belies the implicit claim to rational analysis of the article. It’s just propaganda. Besides being wrong (hardly anything is “pure”), the article could make the point as well or better without this kind of hyperbole.

    3. Where’s the evidence that these Jewish Wall Street types preyed specifically on non-Jews? I’m not saying they didn’t, only that it would have been nice to see some evidence. Bernie Madoff famously preyed almost exclusively on Jewish investors.

    Common sense tells me that there is a connection between being Jewish and committing this kind of crime, but this article doesn’t take things much beyond a statement of common sense.

  97. AmusedEuro's Gravatar AmusedEuro
    May 2, 2010 - 7:29 pm | Permalink

    When an affirmative action black lady cries “racism” because she was reprimanded for being late for work, at best, people smile and nod politely.

    Why would anyone take these Jews – criminals caught red handed stealing money and scamming people – seriously when they cry “anti-semite” when someone notices their crimes?

    It’s a joke.

    I’m sure Bernie Madoff is crying “anti-semite” in prison. Who cares?

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