“I can assure you, we will never go to Canossa!” exclaimed chancellor Bismarck, referring to Emperor Henry IV’s walk to Cannossa in 1077 to do penitence in front of Pope Gregory VII. When the leaders of the European nationalist parties from Flanders, Austria, Germany and Sweden went to Jerusalem in the beginning of december 2010, it was if they were going on a pilgrimage to do penitence. After years of being accused of being Neo-Nazis, Mr. De Winter and Mr. Strache were paying lip service to Israel: “If Jerusalem falls, Amsterdam and New York will be next.” Are they doing the right thing?
First I want to point out the ridiculousness of this situation. Imagine if the leaders of nationalist parties would go to a similar country, for example Serbia, and speak out exactly the same words: “If Belgrade falls, Amsterdam and New York will be next.” They would be accused to being agents of Serbia and ridiculed for their words. In the case of Israel, the mainstream media think it is normal to show this kind of servile behavior. Further, Israel is the most powerful nation in the region, and the only one with nuclear weapons and uncompromisingly backed by the most powerful nation on earth, the USA (which also has a veto in the UN security council). Jerusalem is not under threat by Islam, but is in the process of transformation from a multicultural and multireligious city into a monocultural Jewish capital.
Secondly, I want to show by the case of Mr. De Winter (Flanders) and Mr. Strache (Austria) that making obeisance to Israel is no guarantee for power at home. In 1999 Mr. Strache’s party FPÖ, back then led by Mr. Haider, won a landslide victory in the Austrian elections with 27% of the popular vote. The FPÖ won even more votes than the centre-right People’s Party (ÖVP) and Haider managed to form a right-wing government. The other European countries reacted hysterically and Israel temporarily withdrew its ambassador. In the end, there were no formal sanctions or other lasting damage for Austria and even the vital tourist industry was not harmed. It was a breakthrough for a nationalist party at the time without any Jewish/Israeli support whatsoever.
In Flanders the situation was different. Vlaams Belang, the party of Mr. De Winter, has its popular base in Antwerp—the largest Dutch-speaking city in Belgium and its main port—receiving one third of the votes in 2000 and 2006. In Flanders the party receives between 15% and 25% of the popular vote. Like FPÖ, Vlaams Belang has the capability of expanding its popularity over 10% with peaks of 25% and occasionally even 33%. In Antwerp, there is also a significant Jewish minority, but it is mainly a closed community of Orthodox religious people. Unlike in Austria, Vlaams Belang is excluded from public offices and participation in the coalition government. The central question is whether support for Israel will turn the tables for Vlaams Belang.
Support for Israel is by no means restricted to radical parties. (Incidentally, MP Wim Kortenoeven of Wilders’ Freedom Party has called for “preventive war” against Iran.) Mainstream parties are generally favorable towards Israel and Jewish interests, despite a small but noisy pro-Palestinian faction within the socialist parties. Any Israel lobby will focus on the best way to influence the established liberal, socialist and Christian parties. In other words, from the Jewish side there is no interest in seeking the support of nationalist parties. Local Jewish communities are generally hostile to nationalist sentiments. In 2008, the Vienna Jewish community leader called Mr. Strache “more dangerous than Haider.” By the way, Haider died in October 2008 and got the semblance of a state funeral which was attended by all important political leaders in Austria.
My point is that Israel is not desperately seeking support and is no power broker in European politics. Even more, local Jewish communities in Europe remain hostile towards nationalist and Christian sentiments, as is proven by an official protest by the Austrian Jewish community of contacts between Likud and Mr. Strache. Love for Israel has always been a one way affair and Diaspora Jews are staunchly leftist. Even in Holland, where Mr. Wilders is unquestionably pro-Jewish (married to a Jewish wife and with possible Jewish descent) and pro-Israel, Jews don’t publicly support him in the media or via the polls. I am convinced that within a democratic framework politics is about acquiring support from interest groups, but there will never be a genuine affection between nationalist politics and Jewish interests.
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You hit the nail on its head, you drove it straight.
“If Jerusalem falls, Amsterdam and New York will be next.” That hit the irony nail on the head; the Palestinians today, us tomorrow.
One has to ask: who do these foolish rightist/nationalist Euro politicians really think that they are fooling? Perhaps themselves, but certainly not Jewry. Talk about urinating into the wind!
Maybe they aren’t looking for jewish support as much as they’re trying to lessen unified jewish opposition by offering a bargain of sorts.
That their nationalist parties will not strongly support Palestine or oppose the jewish takeover of Jerusalem if jews will back-off and stop opposing nationalist parties.
Maybe the intended audience is not jews, but convincing European whites leaning in their direction that they are not nazis.
If people don’t start being loyal to White interests first and foremost we are going down the drain. There is no excuse. Israel should be about as important to Americans (and Europeans) as a thistle in a field of weeds. Get this, imprint it on your brains, White loyalty first, white loyalty second, white loyalty third and white loyal always. There is no excuse for concerning ourselves with an alien rogue nation like Israel over and above our own racial and national welfare.
AMEN!!!!!
It is interesting that during the Bosnian War it never occurred to Serbs and Croats to ask Israel for help against the Muslims, even while the native Bosnian Muslims were inviting the Arab Mujahideen to help them.
At least 6000 Arabs (many of them Palestinians) joined the Muslim Army in 1993.
(you can see some of them here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu-2pKDj5dk
)
And still there was no will on the Croatian or Serbian side to call Zionist Jews to help them (though there has allegedly been some silent support in Israel for the Serbian side).
The Jews in Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia staunchly support the Bosnian Muslims (even though the majority of both native Slavic Muslims and the imported Arabs are anti-Israeli).
The nationalist parties should understand that socalled Jewish power is mainly a Wizzard of Oz phenomenon in Europe.They should care for the approval of their own majority populations,not of the Jews.Make the idea of
Ethnic Genetic Interest morally acceptable,then you don’t need the Jews.They can go to Israel.Let them eat manna.
@ethnonationalism: That’s exactly the point. If Serbia cracks down on the Islamization of Kosovo, it gets bombd by NATO. If Israel cracks down on Gaza, they look the other way. In the case of Serbia/Croatia the situation was much more serious and NATO tipped the balance in the favor of the Muslims…
@ethnonationalism: That’s exactly the point. If Serbia cracks down on the Islamization of Kosovo, it gets bombd by NATO. If Israel cracks down on Gaza, they look the other way.
If that was your point then why didn’t you say that?
What you actually said was that if any western nationalist politicians attempted to equate their struggle with Serbia’s they’d be laughed out of the room. Perhaps they would, but that would be because the parallels just aren’t there, not because an attempt to make common cause is itself risible.
In the case of Israel, whether you like it or not, the parallels are there, and they’re not hard to see.
Moreover, the association of nationalism with strident antisemitism (to the point it’s almost the centerpiece of the whole strategy) is a serious impediment to nationalist progress, so what is the actual harm in attempting to dispel such mistaken impressions?
Someday December 29, 2010 – 4:57 pm | Permalink “If Jerusalem falls, Amsterdam and New York will be next.” That hit the irony nail on the head; the Palestinians today, us tomorrow.
Absolutely! I have been comparing the US Whites with Palestinians for a while now. For a reason! The situation is exact. The surface is much different, yes. But the fundamental pattern is the same.
“One has to ask: who do these foolish rightist/nationalist Euro politicians really think that they are fooling? Perhaps themselves, but certainly not Jewry. Talk about urinating into the wind!”
I wouldn’t be at all surprised that they were forced to go, or else.
They may very well have been summoned and then told that if they didn’t want to wind up like Haider then they would do exactly as they are told.
Personally, I have come to the conclusion that this is how they operate, and have been operating, forever.
Nietzsche said it best when he said, in so many words, that the one thing that seperate Jews from the rest of the human race is that when faced with the question all groups are faced with, honor and possibly death, or, dishonor and life, they chose to live dishonorably.
For centuries Jews, in relation to others, have burned their conscience right out of their consciousness. That is why they are so good at hiding and we’re not good at looking.
As everyone knows here, most Whites walk around with no clue as to what is happening to them. Or, pretending they don’t know.
Jews, for centuries have been engaged in the slow accumulation of power, by finance, fraud, deceit, corruption, and, when none of that worked, slander, and murder.
It took them over a hundred years before they got their paws on our money via the establishment of the Federal Reserve. After that it took them another hundred to gain complete control of government, finance, information, and education in the West, but especially in the USA.
They will fail, I have no doubt about that. In a way they are failing now. They are not insuperable. Far from it.
The problem isn’t them, and, in one way, never was. The problem as I see it, is us.
Complaining about Jews reminds me a lot of complaining about a Bully Boss. It works for the moment, it’s a way to vent. Never the less, you have to swallow that big lump and go back to work for them. And as everyone knows, if the company you work for has the Bully Boss’ name on it then you simply have to leave.
Well, they have their name now all over the USA.
Forget about getting it back. Its simply too contaminated.
The same goes for every institution they control. Which is, every institution that drives the civilized world today. At least in the West.
Needless to say, we’ve got our work cut out for us.
Haider “died”? When he hit the brakes, nothing happened. Then he “died”. Like T.E. Lawrence’s motorcycle “accident”. And Winston Churchill’s NYC auto-mishap, just before he sold himself to Zion. Etc. As to the larger issue, the Euro-Right is going to learn all about Jewish perfidy…the hard way.
“They will fail, I have no doubt about that. In a way they are failing now. They are not insuperable. Far from it.
The problem isn’t them, and, in one way, never was. The problem as I see it, is us. ”
I disagree, the problem is not “us” but the way we have been raised to think. In short, we (Europeans and European-Americans) have been conditioned to think in such a way that benefits Jews and not us. It’s no stretch to say that Jewish-controlled academia and media have conditioned us to worship Jews, to sacrifice ourselves for them, to always compromise for them, to alter our culture to support them, to fight their wars for them.
Does it make sense for us to do any of that? No. It’s completely irrational. Nor is there any conceivable reason why whites should not act in their own ethnic self-interest on a political scale. The problem is that this very idea is not in the public consciousness; whites are not trained to think in terms of their own ethnicity. Only other races are.
To Fender Strat:
Ironically, though you disagreed, you disagreement only reinforced my point. It IS us.
Please reread your comment. It was excellent and on target. The only mistake you make is blaming them.
For example. You and I obviously aren’t fooled. I was for a time, but I worked myself free from it. And, at least in my case, and I know for a fact not just in my case, that took some doing. First, to see it and register it intellectually, and then to process it emotionally and psychologically. But I did it. And so did you.
So, if you and I and the others here at the TOO Family and VDARE, etc. can do it, albeit each of us in different ways and in varying degrees of intensity, then why can’t the rest?
Well, because they don’t want to or are incapable of even seeing what’s in front of them.
As I’ve said before, They are good at hiding and we’re not good at looking. That is our fault, not theirs. And they are extremely well-organized and we’re not. That is our fault, not theirs.
For me, Nietzsche is right, we are the victims of our own Herd Morality. A herd doesn’t want to think, it wants to follow. How else could you explain a culture that gave itself the opportunity to experience the five basic freedoms to feel, think, act, believe, and express and use them all to develop as individuals who believe in the notion of continual spiritual growth, only to throw it overboard, turn around and devote themselves to erecting a culture based solely on money, status, and automatic conformity?
In short, how else could you explain the spectacle of a people engaged in the single greatest act of collective self-betrayal in recorded history?
Jewish Propaganda?
Are you kidding? No way. Their propaganda and its extraordinarily easy success was symptomatic of a much larger problem – us!
Whites directly, indirectly, consciously, unconsciously, trained themselves to conform automatically to a handful of the most shallow, self-serving “principles” imaginable, throwing away their freedoms in the process, and as it it was nothing. Jews are guilty of everything they project onto us. No question. That is why the most precise definition of Jewish culture is a Culture of Psychopatholgy. But we made it easy for them.
I know of so many Whites while growing up whose parents could tell you all about the details of the professional and personal lives of your average sports or entertainment celebrity, and very little about their own children. They would neglect and abuse their children, then blame their children, and then play the victim. And the rest of the White community was complicit. THAT’s a conspiracy worth talking about. And yet, you would never know such a thing ever happened within the White community judging from what you read here.
In fact, speaking of which, you still see this today even in race-conscious sites like these.
As much as I respect and value the work of O’Meara, Johnson and MacDonald, and consider their work required reading, I get no sense, none at all, that they are concerned with or have any sensitivity toward Whites as individuals. They seem focused solely on the collective. As if it’s going to appear out of nowhere. But the collective is and only will ever be as good as the individuals in it.
The only time Whites as Whites ever stood up for themsevles en masse was in the form of Facism, and that was a spectacular failure. And one a lot of people here seem incapable of learning from. What does that tell you?
No. With all due respect, I have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us.
When a clever person tells a lie to a dumb person, and the dumb person acts on the false information given to him, do you blame the dumb person? No, you blame the liar.
Ashkenazic Jews tend to have higher IQs than whites, and these are the Jews who run the media and academia. They fill the heads of millions of gullible whites with disinformation and propaganda, and whites act on those ideas that have been put into their heads. That’s just biology; people do what they’ve been conditioned to do.
If you’re saying that the problem with most whites is that they are unintelligent and irrational, I’d agree. But you seem to be saying that the problem with whites that they willingly act in favor of Jews because there’s something about whites that makes them self-destructive and altruistic towards non-whites.
I don’t agree. Raise whites in a pro-white society and they will be just as ethnocentric as the Jews, Japanese, and Indians. There’s never going to be some sort of magical “great awakening” among whites unless the ideas are *planted* there by people in the media and academia.
In order to undo decades upon decades of Jewish social engineering there logically needs to be people who oppose it. Someone who is brainwashed can never think outside of what has been programmed for him; he needs someone else to do the deprogramming. Whites cannot “train themselves” to think a certain way without the proper basic ideals.
Fender is a bit off. In raw numbers there are many, many more smart whites than jews. Lots, most of these smart whites believe the lies shoveled their way by the media and jewish controlled academia. It’s the trusting nature of whites that has been turned against them. It’s more a difference of cognitive structure than intelligence. Whites tend to believe what people are telling them as it was key to survival back in the day. Jews lie, assume everyone is a liar and as dishonest as they are, because that’s the mode of behavior and thinking that got this group by. Now we’re stuck with them again. They’re not supermen. They’re gypsies with cell phones.
“Maybe they aren’t looking for jewish support as much as they’re trying to lessen unified jewish opposition by offering a bargain of sorts.
That their nationalist parties will not strongly support Palestine or oppose the jewish takeover of Jerusalem if jews will back-off and stop opposing nationalist parties.”
The problem with this strategy is that Jews have not backed off one iota, even after our side has made every concession possible. You don’t negotiate by giving away everything right off the bat and then hoping the other side will be nice enough to reciprocate.