Wikileaks exposes private anti-immigration attitudes among Sweden’s elite

Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

Recently leaked Wikileaks documents reveals that Carl Bildt, the Swedish Foreign Secretary, privately believes that immigration from Iraq is problematic. These Iraqis are a mixed bunch, but are mostly composed Assyrians/Syriacs, an ethnic minority of Orthodox Christian denomination residing in several countries in the middle-east. They have settled in large numbers in Sweden where they have segregated themselves from the surrounding native population. As with all non-European immigrantion, their presence has caused many serious problems, not least among them the emergence of organised crime.

Bildt has referred to the immigrants as “difficult to assimilate” and “poorly educated.” He also cited their involvement in several “honor killings as prompting more calls for stronger immigration policies from the Swedish public.” (As far as I know, honour killings are primarily a Kurdish/Islamic “cultural practice” and not an Assyrian/Syriac one.)

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How is this significant? Bildt is not saying anything very controversial. He could have mentioned the rampant violent and sexual crime directed towards Swedes. The point is who is saying it, rather than what is being said. A point emphasized at TOO is that our enemies occupy prestigious positions in academia, politics, business and other areas. This has enabled them to spout politically correct nonsense without presenting evidence simply because they are professors, media figures, ministers, and so forth. Opponents could be dismissed instead of debated with. After all, who are you going to believe in a political debate, a truck-driver or a professor? The same applies in the current situation, but to the detriment of the establishment. The establishment simply cannot dismiss a high-ranking, well-respected and experienced minister in the government as a bigot, nut-job or a hillbilly. This can be seen in that in this case the usual ad-hominem tactics have been dispensed with. Rather than condemn him for moral turpitude or intellectual deficits, many of Bildt’s political opponents appear to be suggesting that he doesn’t really believe what he is alleged to have said:

Emma Henriksson, migration policy spokeswoman for the Christian Democrats, found the documents “troublesome” and said that she would bring them up with Bildt when she meets with him next week and ask if they are actually true.

Like several others, Cecilia Wikström, European Parliament member for the Liberal Party, hoped that the ministers were misquoted.

“It is appalling rhetoric. I really hope and do not want to believe that they may have said something so abominable,” she told SvD on Friday.

One MP from the Green Party suggests he is merely adapting to the rhetoric of the Sweden Democrats:

“On the part of the Moderates, they have adapted to the xenophobic forces, which [Prime Minister Fredrik] Reinfeldt said that they would never do,” she said.

Coming on the heels of the sensation caused by Thilo Sarrazin’s book (see “Policing the Elites,” TOO, 9/4/2010) and the alleged anti-Arab remarks of Brice Hortefeux, French Interior Minister, this incident boosts the credibility of anti-immigration forces because it confirms that people at the top levels of the establishment who publicly condemn “racists,” privately agree with them.

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65 Comments to "Wikileaks exposes private anti-immigration attitudes among Sweden’s elite"

  1. Joe's Gravatar Joe
    July 23, 2011 - 1:32 am | Permalink

    Population replacement? If it is needed, with robotics and mechanization reducing the need for laborers, tax and social policies could achieve higher birth rates. If white people can’t afford to own homes and provide for their children they don’t have them.

  2. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    February 15, 2011 - 7:57 pm | Permalink

    If Bildt knew that some of those Iraqis are Jewish – he would have dared to make that stupid remarks.

    It’s not the ethnicity but the religion (Islam) which scared the hell out of European Islamophobes.

    “If you want to talk about being critical of Israel, that is a feeling among many Europeans, so how can you characterize that as Muslim? There is no such thing as a Muslim issue in Europe or growing Muslim influence on politicians,” – Susanne Nies, head of French Institute of International Relations

    Muslim population in Europe is estimated to be around 7% of the total population. However, a significant number of Muslims in Europe are not citizens and therefore, not entitled to participate politically in the countries of their residence. Muslims in many European countries face racism, based on color and the anti-Islam propaganda carried out by pro-Israel groups which own most of Europe’s mainstream media. The racism in France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe (6-8 million) – was summed-up by a diesel-brand jeans and red stiletto heels wearing with no Hijab, Fateh Mansour, a law student at the Sorbonne (2004): “France is not racist, but it’s xenophobic. I can study the law all night, but I don’t know if I will find a job – not because I am not competent, but because I am an Arab”. There is no Muslim in the French parliament and not a single French CEO is Muslim.

  3. EW's Gravatar EW
    February 3, 2011 - 10:35 am | Permalink

    “The victory of Communism over Europe in 1945 (thanks largely to the intervention of foolish American idealists and dupes) made it possible for these bestial plans to be acted out.”

    Funny though, the countries that were directly under Soviets, were hidden behind the Iron curtain. Unfortunately, their homogeneity decreases year to year, as various Asian immigrants are imported to work on assembly lines built here not for employing locals, but for getting the coveted “Made in EU” tag and circumvent the customs regulations. When you can’t import goods directly from Asia, it is still possible to import Asians to do the work in EU.

    Oh, how we were surprised to see, how much the West Europe changed, when we were first allowed to travel freely. What became of sweet Paris and how dark is London now…

  4. Rene Scherger's Gravatar Rene Scherger
    January 27, 2011 - 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Anglo Saxon:
    “Yes, Tom, there are quotations from the 1920s and the early 1950s on record, to this effect. I have them on-disk but don’t have the time to go searching at this moment. Mass immigration into all ‘White’ Nations was planned way back.

    “One Euro elitist (a Count) announced that Europeans would eventually be mixed with African genes to manufacture a new race”. End quote.

    This would be whom and what Anglo Saxon is referring to:
    Count Richard Nicolaus Coudenhove Kalergi
    Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus)
    The Racist and Supremacist Roots of the Ideology behind the European Union

    Notice what a mongrel Kalergi was himself. Yes…what is occurring today was planned a long time ago. I mean this is right in your face a bold statement of purpose of those behind the European Union.

    Follow that up with the ongoing plan and responsibility slipped up by this Jewish Woman and you can see the plan is still in effect.
    Leading Jewish activist: “Jews will play a leading role in multicultural Europe”

    I don’t pay much heed to intellectual political talk about left or right, Rothschild Fabianism, Frankfurt School, Libertariansim etc. as all these are ultimately just branch outlets of the Judeo-Zionist tyrannical elite. Spreading the exposure of their plans around might go a long way toward opening the eyes of the man in the street to either support those who clearly see it and those compromised in the positions they hold who might privately hold some amorphous notion of the destructive ‘immigration’ the power-elite of the Euro-Union have managed to foist off on the various nations through the course of the last several decades.

  5. January 26, 2011 - 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Some background reading on the post WII Libertarian European Project.

  6. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    January 25, 2011 - 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Well, the Serbs can be snookered just as easily as the Swedes–some of them apparently followed Tito, much the disadvantage of their own ethnic interests. Not to mention the fact that the Serbs elected Tadic who is worse for their ethnic interests than any current leader in Sweden.

    You’ll get no sympathy from me for Serbian presence in any Western country because the West has repeatedly betrayed them and put them at the mercy of their communist or Muslim neighbors.

    • ethnonationalist's Gravatar ethnonationalist
      January 26, 2011 - 5:52 am | Permalink

      I will not go into detail, because it is an extremely complicated issue.

      I don’t think Tito was bad for Serbian ethnic interests. He forced ethnic Germans out of Vojvodina and settled Serbs from Eastern Herzegovina into their confiscated houses. That is how Serbs became the majority in Vojvodina.

      Tadić worse for Serb ethnic interests than any current leader in Sweden? Are you kidding me?

      Swedish politicians deny that Swedes even exist as an ethnic group!
      While Tadić closly cooperates with Milorad Dodik (the Serbian nationalist leader in Bosnia). Last year Tadić opened a school in Pale (RS) exclusivly for Serbian children. And nobody in Serbia sees this as a problem. Can you imagine a Swedish politician opening a school exclusivly for ethnic Swedish children?

      The difference between Serbia and Sweden is that in Sweden both the left-wing and right-wing politicians are anti-nationalist, while in Serbia both the right-wing and the left-wing are ethnonationalist (at least implicitly), except a few marginal parties like the LDS.
      Don’t forget that Milošević was a leftist (and the vast majority of the Serb nationalist leaders during the 1990s), and so is Milorad Dodik.

      The reason why Serbs are in decline is their low fertility (the lowest in Europe!) and not the sloppiness of their politicians or some “betrayal from the West”.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      January 26, 2011 - 4:13 pm | Permalink

      I disagree. While it is true that Croats and Slovenes were resentful of political power in Belgrade, Tito severely circumscribed the Serbian Church. Tito may have moved Serbs into Vojvodina, but he also moved them out of Kosovo–which may be poorer, but has much stronger emotional attachment for the Serbs.

      Are you really saying with a straight face that the Serbs wouldn’t have been better of with Mihailovic?

      The notion that Tadic is not a Western shill is unbelievable. He has to deal with the political realities, but whenever possible, he shills for his Western masters, be it giving up sovereignty to Kosovo or allowing gay pride parades in Belgrade.

    • ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
      January 26, 2011 - 5:52 pm | Permalink

      “Are you really saying with a straight face that the Serbs wouldn’t have been better of with Mihailovic?”

      Mihailović’s and Tito’s agenda was actually quite similar:
      1. The re-establishment of Yugoslavia.
      2. Forcing non-Slavs out of the new Yugoslavia.

      The only major difference was that Tito wanted a communist Yugoslavia, while Mihailović wanted a monarchist Yugoslavia.

      So, it is no coincidance that the majority of četniks joined the communists in 1944.

      “While it is true that Croats and Slovenes were resentful of political power in Belgrade, Tito severely circumscribed the Serbian Church.”

      No. It was all about ethnic conflict. You know how Poles complain about Jew-Communism (“Żydokomuna”)?
      Well, in the same way Croats complained about Serb-communism (“srbokomunizam”), i.e. the total dominance of ethnic Serbs in the communist aparatus in Croatia. For instance, in 1952 Serbs were only 5% of the population in Zagreb, while at the same time they were about 60% of officers in the local repressive communist police.

      As for the Serbian Church; it had a much better position than other religious groups.
      After WWII, the high level leaders of all religious groups, except the Serbian Orthodox Church, were executed – 4 Catholic bishops and about 600 priests, the Patriarch of the Croatian Orthodox Church Germogen Maksimov, the Protestant leader Philip Popp and Muslim Grand Mufti Ismet Muftić. Only the leaders of the Serbian Orthodox Church were spared.

      “The notion that Tadic is not a Western shill is unbelievable. He has to deal with the political realities, but whenever possible, he shills for his Western masters”

      Tadić is a Western shill, but he is certainly not “worse than Swedish politicians” as you had said.
      Tadić is a little EU-obsessed, but he doesnt completely ignore his ethnic interests either.
      After all, his father Ljubomir Tadić was one of the most prominent leaders of the “Greater Serbia” movement.

      While Swedish politicians are totally in the multicult.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      January 27, 2011 - 11:13 pm | Permalink

      Serbo-comuna? Really? I realize that Croats resented the fact that political power was centered in Belgrade–but even during the SFRY period, most of the economic development was in Croatia and Slovenia.

      It’s pretty ironic that you say he was the same as Tito. I spent months in an edit war on Wikipedia with a guy who insists that Mihailovic and the Cetniks were Axis collaborators all along. The guy is obsessed though and I eventually gave up. I can’t be more Serbian than the Serbs. I really can’t speak to the extent to which the Cetniks joined the Partisans… as I said this other guy, despite my adding primary sources to the contrary, insists that the Cetniks were working with the Germans till the end. (they even have an ‘infobox’ as “Axis Collaborators”).

      In any event, if Tito was harsher in the IMMEDIATE aftermath on the Croats, it is probably because they clearly supported Pavlic more than the Serbs supported Nedic. The commies were obsessed with fascists. Still Stepinac wasn’t executed If Tito was so pro-Serb, why give Vojvodina and Kosovo autonomy? Why did he break away the Macedonian Church?

      I would add that regardless, the Croat’s behavior during the war to the Serbs was excessive.

  7. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 25, 2011 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    “I read that in 2050 Denmark will have 15 percent Non-European through their current immigration policy. Sweden will have 50 percent (or more) Non-European in 2050 with their current immigration policy.”

    Yes. And of the remaining 50% of Europeans in Sweden, only 25% will be ethnic Swedes.

    You can forget about assimilation.
    I know a lot of Serbs and Bosnian Muslims that live in Sweden.
    These people see assimilation as a sort of treason. A betrayal of their ancestors who over the centuries sacrificed their lives to preserve their identity.

    Of course, they would never say it to your face, because they know that Swedes don’t understand the Balkanic ethno-collectivist way of thinking.

  8. January 25, 2011 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    Note, both India and Pakistan are eyeing up the Shanghai Cooperative Organization (which diplomatically has put Iran on probation).

    Does everyone here not see that this may currently be benevolenly read as the SCO and BRIC sending a powerful wake-up call to the Libertarian Liberal-Democracies that it is their own best interests to change their (evident in their dysgenic birth-rates) currently self-centred, self-destructive, ways?

  9. Christian's Gravatar Christian
    January 25, 2011 - 7:52 am | Permalink

    Letter from Sweden

    About the Swedish Democratic party

    Sweden is for the moment in a political chaos. It has now been about four months since the election. The paleo-conservative party Swedish Democrats are now the 6th largest party in the parliament and almost all the polls show that Sweden Democrats are about to be the third largest party in Sweden next election in 2014.

    Since the election of 2010, Sweden Democrats have gotten about 1000 new members. They have now about 5000 members, an extremely small amount of members when compared to other parties in their ballot size.
    Everything is going pretty well for them and we now see the first effects of their political power. They use their power in the parliament to sink the liberal center-right government bills by voting with the socialists on economical issues such as keeping state owned companies state owned. Sweden Democrats do not thing state owned corporations should be sold to USA, China, India, UK, Arab or Israeli based companies.

    The Swedish Democrats do not want expand salaries and the size of the government cabinet. The Sweden democrats act this way partly because they closer to the social democrats when it comes to economical politics and partly because the center-right government refuse to talk with them.

    The propaganda against Sweden Democrats is still very rapid and harsh. Last week the largest newspaper in Sweden Aftonbladet ran a three days document about the Sweden Democrats. They showed some pictures that was fifteen years old or more and said that below the surface it is the same party as in 1988, when it was created. This newspaper had nothing on them.

    Nothing at all and no politics was criticized only their history and their voters. Yes. Some of the liberal-socialist media attack their voters rather than Sweden democrats. They try to sell the idea that if you vote for the Swedish Democrats you are a poor, undereducated and dull.

    Funny, research has been done since 2006 on the voters of Swedish Democrats and their voters are a bit more extreme than other parties but not much. Sweden Democrats have a high proportion of upper middle class voters and a high proportion of poor voters.

    Seldom are the Swedish Democrats policies and politics up for discussion by the media or by opponent politicians. In fact, often media and opponent politicians just try to find scandals within the party and then sell it to the public. Sometimes it is successful.

    The intern organization of the Swedish Democrats is still not very different from a local kitchen table party. The reason is obvious. Even though they have young academics as politicians for them, they lack them in the non-political part of the organization.

    They have for instance problem to find political secretaries, good analysts, lawyers and others from academia and business to their party organization. Today they have most of their parliament politicians doing their own secretary job. Now, when they are still a relatively small party this is not a large problem, but it will become more important to fill their party with good staff-workers.

    About the media and the new political discourse.

    The media in Sweden is extremely powerful. Pretty much all media is owned by Bonnier Corporation, Schibstedt Corporation, Kinnevik Corporation, Stampen Corporation and the Public Service (state owned). Five companies control pretty much all Swedish media.

    They are all heavily supportive of multiculturalism as identity politics for minorities and secondly for open border policy – which means that we should have free immigration with no restrictions. They call illegal immigrants (not a major problem yet in Sweden) for “rejected refuges” or “paperless”.

    Note the Sweden have not been open for work force immigration since 1970. All people after 1980 have been refugees or family to refugees. Since the beginning of 1990, Sweden has taken in over a million immigrants. Only ONE percent of those have come to Sweden for work the liberal Newspaper Dagens Nyheter write in an editorial today.

    But in all chaos we see some new movements in the elite. It is pretty simple actually. The Moderate Party (Conservatives) was forced after the election of 2002 to become less economically libertarian when it came to economical policies. The election of 2002 was one of the worst elections in the Moderate Parties history. They also had to be less conservative when it came to moral issues. In this they pretty much let the old organization grow away from the party.

    The old institutions like the Think Tank Timbro had to be left out. Now, when such an organization loses their power as the teddy-bear of the largest conservative-libertarian party, well they rebel.

    Since two weeks ago it is pretty much the leading official libertarian critics of multiculturalism understood as identity politics. Now, they claim that immigrants should adopt their classical liberal ideas of individual liberty. The most important thing – they are trying to sell the concept of assimilation. It has been taboo to talk about assimilation in the elite political discourse since at least 1994.

    The reason why it has been taboo to talk about assimilation is that the elite draw their ideologies from Canadian liberal multiculturalism – which rejects all sorts of assimilation and nation-creating ideas. It has all been a game of hegemony of words and now the word assimilation is about to be accepted and used for its purpose.

    Those who have been explicit angry have been the Bonnier and Schibstedt owned magazines that reject all kind of assimilation because it would force Jews and Muslims do adopt some Swedish values. The Bonnier owned Newspaper Dagens Nyheter even propose that assimilation leads to Auswitch, anti-Semitism, islamophobia and war. One of their editorial journalists named Lisa Bjurwald even called Timbro and some of its scholars for racists and as dangerous as French president Sarkozy. She is officially connected to the anti-racist organization Expo, were she works part time.Expo is like SPLC.

    But the libertarian supporters of Timbro do not like to be called racists and they have support among the libertarian fraction in the bourgeois parties and newspapers. Timbro is still a powerful organization and they do not like young “anti-racist socialist-liberals” saying what to do.

    They answered with by attack and they got support by other parts of the media and political mainstream elite. Now it is a small debate going on and gives it a year or two and the concept of assimilation will not be taboo.
    It’s important to note that integration has been used instead of assimilation, because integration does not mean that the immigrants have to reject their cultural, religious or ethnical identity.

    They do not even have to learn the language. Still Lisa Bjurwald and many others in the elite call people racist for saying that people should know Swedish before getting a citizenship.

    Now when the Swedish Democrats is around and they go pretty tuff on their opponents it is not as taboo anymore to say you think immigrants should learn our language. You will be seen as a right-wing person, but you will lose your job, family and friends.

    You have to remember that since 1994 all criticism or even raising issues about immigration and liberal multiculturalism has been called an act of racism. Just ten years ago you could lose your job if you said you thought Sweden took in too many immigrants.

    After 2002 it became a bit better. Then you only could lose your job if you were an actually member for the Swedish Democrats or any national organization. This was true until around 2008 – but after some course cases the law was clear.

    You could not be fired for being a member of a party. Today your company may buy you out or they just won’t promote you. They will not fire you as before.

    Just before the election people very kicked out from their unions if they were members of the Swedish Democrats parties. Now we talk about 2010. This is was possible because the unions are not companies. Interesting enough it created controversy because the union is connected with something called “Saltsjöbad agreement” – which was partly done to protect workers political rights.

    This had been done since 1988 – but now the Swedish Democrats were on their way into the parliament. Time had changed and the workers unions this not realize that.
    Either way – things are moving slowly here. I can say that I think we will see improvement every 6 month until the election Day.

    When the Swedish Democrats get 10 percent and the Christian Democrats are forced out the parliament I think the Swedish Democrats more or less have won. For the moment 15 percent of the Moderate politicians (maybe even more) wants to work with the Sweden Democrats and create this alliance that is now present in Denmark.

    I read that in 2050 Denmark will have 15 percent Non-European through their current immigration policy. Sweden will have 50 percent (or more) Non-European in 2050 with their current immigration policy. Sweden is now ranked as the most extreme country when it comes to multiculturalism in the western world.

    The welfare-system and the high work-motivation among the ethnic Swedes create still a good economy. The current government also keeps the economy in some kind of economically working shape.
    But the burden of taking in 100 000 new people from the third world every year is getting more and more difficult. Some cities are on the way of economical and social collapse. If you walk around in Sweden, especially the southern municipalities of Stockholm you will see that the streets are getting dirtier and you see negligence of streets and roads.

    Today the municipalities in some Swedish regions have barely enough taxes to pay for school lunches. Yes, in Sweden, School lunches are for free.

    So how they do solve it? Well, they tell the parents that they have to pay for their children’s food. But if you pay 30-50 percent in income tax and there is high taxes on almost every product, including that gasoline now cost 6-7 US. dollar per Gallon. Almost everything is tax. It is a big deal.

    The house prizes in Sweden’s largest cities have also reached astronomical numbers. The wages are internationally rather low in Sweden, taxes are very high and now a living in the larger cities in Sweden is becoming more difficult.

    Note that school, police, fire department, hospitals, infrastructure, elderly care and everything else that is important is lacking of resources. If your house is burning you are lucky if you get a fire truck. Note also that crime is an eminent threat.

    Normal people buy new locks, put alarms and those who are wealthier buy surveillance cameras and even guards. I have listen among friends and they now look their doors when they drive their cars.

    Historically people did not lock their car-doors when they were driving because if there were an accident people on the sidewalk could help them out. Today people lock their cars while driving, they are afraid of being hijacked by a read light.

    In the situation Sweden is in now, voters have no choice. They can let the current politically elite destroy the country or they can vote them away. The change will come and I think it is just ten years or so before Sweden are in the Danish position.

    Then you can have ended the first taboos and we will real see improvement. Maybe it will go more rapidly here – because here the elite class is even more extreme then in Holland or UK. They are mad.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 25, 2011 - 12:36 pm | Permalink

      @ Christian …
      Indeed, the so-called ‘elite’ class in Sweden are insane. A people who can tolerate the likes of Mona Sahlin, as leader of the Swedish Social ‘Democratic’ really do require counselling. By the way, is not Sweden’s all-powerful Bonnier Corporation Jewish??

      The famous Norwegian Blogger, Fjordman, has written extensively about the insanity that is Sweden. Here are some extracts:


      There is a disproportionate amount of Scandinavian material in this book, obviously because I am Scandinavian myself and follow the developments in Norway, Sweden and Denmark closely in the native languages. The primary reason why I write much about Sweden is because it is one of the most totalitarian countries in the Western world. It is an interesting — and frightening — example of Political Correctness and self-loathing and can as such serve as a warning to others. Most of the problems described here exist throughout the Western world, although there is a difference in degree. The second reason is that Sweden, like my own country, needs some “tough love.” Too many Swedes still cling on to the myth of the “Swedish model” while their country is disintegrating. If Sweden the nation is to be saved — if it still can be saved, I’m not so sure — then Sweden the ideological beacon for mankind must be smashed, because vanity now blocks sanity.

      Leading newspaper Aftonbladet has close ideological ties to the Social Democrats, the country’s dominant party for most of the past century. Helle Klein, its political editor-in-chief from 2001 to 2007, during a demonstration organized by Islamic and anti-racist organizations in December 2006 stood in front of a banner which read “A Sweden for all — Stop the Nazi violence“ and held a speech warning against Islamophobia in the media. Klein has voiced sympathy for terrorist organization Hamas in her editorials while warning against the threat posed to world peace by Israeli aggression and the Christian Right in the USA. Hamas is a Fascist organization openly calling for mass murder of Jews. Violent attacks against Jews in Europe in 2008 are to an overwhelming degree caused by Muslim immigration, which is encouraged by the EU and the national political elites. The irony of warning against “Nazi violence” while showing sympathy for an organization that wants to finish what the Nazis started apparently doesn’t strike Ms. Klein. She still blogged at Aftonbladet‘s website as of early 2008.

      One of Klein’s fellow columnists at Aftonbladet, the long-time Communist Robert Aschberg, is the publisher of Expo magazine. Leading Expo member Charles Westin in October 2007 published the book Brunt! (“brown,” as in “Fascist”), where he let members of AFA contribute some of their intelligence regarding “right-wing extremists,” among them people associated with the legal party the Sweden Democrats. In addition to Mr. Westin, the book was co-authored by Mats Deland, who is a journalist in Aftonbladet. Why is it considered OK that a representative of one of Scandinavia’s largest newspapers, with ties to the country’s largest political party, thus associates himself openly with an organization known for physically assaulting members of a legal opposition party, even in their private homes?

      Before the elections in 2006, the established parties cooperated in boycotting the Sweden Democrats and other “xenophobic” parties. In one of many similar incidents, which extreme Leftists bragged about on the Internet, around 30 members of the SD were attacked during a peaceful, private party outside the town of Växjö. The brave “anti-Fascists” threw tear gas into the building, forcing people outside where they were beaten with iron bars and axes. Open, aggressive and sometimes violent harassment of critics of the country’s immigration policies has been going on for years while the authorities have largely turned a blind eye to the problem. Still, the SD’s press spokesman Jonas Åkerlund has said such attacks have become less common, and in 2008 the party does seem to be treated slightly better.

      The girlfriend of a politician from the Sweden Democrats was attacked at her home outside Stockholm. The young woman was found bound with duct tape in the apartment block where she lives with Martin Kinnunen, chairman of the youth wing of the SD. Three men had forced their way into the couple’s apartment and held the 19-year-old at knife point. Kinnunen tells of several threats and anonymous phone calls to the family. He blames the media for systematically portraying the SD as monsters and thus for legitimizing aggression against them, and claims that the Swedish democracy is a sham.

      According to Jonathan Friedman, an American working in Sweden for years, “no debate about immigration policies is possible, the subject is simply avoided. Sweden has such a close connection between the various powerful groups, politicians, journalists, etc. The political class is closed, isolated.” The elites are worried to see their power slip away and therefore want to silence critics, for instance the Sweden Democrats, a small party opposed to immigration: “It is a completely legal party, they just aren’t allowed to speak.…In reality, the basis of democracy has been completely turned on its head. It is said: ‘Democracy is a certain way of thinking, a specific set of opinions, and if you do not share them, then you aren’t democratic, and then we condemn you and you ought to be eliminated. The People? That is not democratic. We the Elite, we are democracy.’ It is grotesque and it certainly has nothing to do with democracy, more like a kind of moral dictatorship.”


      I recommend you ALSO read this Fjordman article published in October 2008 at the blogsite, The Brussels Journal:

      Once read, you will understand just how dire the political and immigrant situation in Sweden has become. By the way, for those ‘White’ Nationalists interested in the European scene, The Brussels Journal serves as an excellent adjunct to reading The Occidental Observer.


  10. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    January 24, 2011 - 11:46 pm | Permalink

    The liberal ECONOMIST has a “democracy index” which rates countries by the integrity and function of their democratic governments. The countries of Scandinavia top the list, not only because of their inherent civility, integrity, tolerance and intelligence, but because of their relatively (until recently) homogeneous populations. The 51% vs. 49% nature of democracy better serves a nation where most people think, act and look like each other than it does a potpourri of ethnic/racial groups who usually feel cheated after every election (as in the United States.)

    Sweden WAS number one on the list, the highest rated democracy in the world, but then dropped to number four in 2008, probably due (at least in part) to the influx of immigrants who, in modern times, seem to bring with them political dissatisfaction rather than gratitude towards their host country. Norway is now number one, but is facing immigration challenges of it’s own. Finland is number seven, behind Australia and New Zealand. Australia, however, is having a problem with boat people from Asia and middle easterners.

    True, the index isn’t entirely scientific in a comparative sense, as the criteria for ratings can’t be entirely consistent from country to country, but among Western industrialized nations, the more “diverse” a country is, the farther down the list it is, with only a few exceptions. (Multi-lingual Switzerland and Canada are pretty high on the list.)The U.S. is number 17, only ten positions (and a one fifth of a point) away from the category of “flawed democracy.”

    • January 25, 2011 - 7:55 am | Permalink

      Readers will note that The People’s Replublic of China is not classed as a democracy. Yet China regards itself as the epitome of democracy, as its one party system of Democratic-Centralism elects its leaders from the bottom up, hence it is known as a dictatorship of the proletariat (workers). China regards Liberal-Democracy as corruption of democracy. How many students in the USA/UK/EU are taught how the Chinese political economic system actually operates? Why are its leaders treated as dictators? Why are Obama and Cameron called upon to take decisive executive action as ‘leaders’ (rather than as ‘dictators’) when they are not empowered to do so? Is it muddles like this which lead some countries censor The Economist and web?

    • January 25, 2011 - 2:25 pm | Permalink

      Sweden is in the EU and thus a signatory of Lisbon and the FCHR. However as with other Liberal (Social) Democracies it has a problem with dysgenic/differential fertility, although not all researchers see this. A major driver of this seems to be ‘brighter’ female liberation, in that these females will either delay, or forego, motherhood for independent incomes relative to less bright females (who will also go out to work, but probably start families earlier). The reasons why people do this is less important than that they do it, and I suggest readers focus upon differential fertility, by which I mean that there will be more progeny from the lower half of the Bell Curve relative to the upper half. This in turn is bad for personal debt, but, paradoxically, good for financial services and banks in the short term (hence all the securitization and offshore dumping of this debt).

      This is now a (perhaps THE) most serious problem, in that it means that serious genetic deterioration in the population’s cognitive ability is probably occurring, albeit probably at too slow a pace for most people to immediately notice. Using US data from the past, it hits the upper and lower standard deviations hardest, deflating the upper 3rd SD most by 60% over five generations and inflating the lower 3rd SD by the same (cf. Herrnstein 1989). This, I suggets, is showing up in classic measures of arrested development, i.e increases in offending behaviour, divorce, lower school performance relative to the distant past, narcissistic entitlement, and ultimately, economic decline.

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      January 25, 2011 - 4:52 pm | Permalink

      David said:
      “[Sweden] has a problem with dysgenic/differential fertility… females will either delay, or forego, motherhood for independent incomes relative to less bright females….”

      I won’t pretend to know the thought processes or opportunities that lead migrating middle-easterners to choose one country for relocation over another, but I can’t help but think this is a large part of it. A relatively benign, wealthy and declining population in an affluent country must seem like a golden opportunity, not just for individuals, but for ethnic groups. They’re surely being targeted.

  11. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 24, 2011 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “I’m afraid you won’t get much agreement round here with that position. This is a **racist** site. Criticism of white people **unerwunscht**!”

    American “White nationalists” certainly don’t agree with me, but I know that most Swedish nationalists agree with me.

    In the eyes of the Swedes, there is no “European immigrant” and “non-European immigrant”.
    An immigrant is an immigrant.

    Sweden is not an artificial immigrant-creation like the US, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico and all the other New World countries.

    The ancestors of ethnic Swedes have been living there for thousands of years.
    Why would Swedes let Greeks, Serbs, Ukrainians, Italians, Albanians (and other EUROPEAN immigrants) take over their country?

    I can only imagine what would Serbs do if 120,000 Swedes immigrated to Serbia (probably the same thing they did to Hungarians and Germans in Vojvodina).

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      January 25, 2011 - 12:21 pm | Permalink

      Alternatively, Sweden could have helped to prevent such immigration by not supporting NATO’s actions in the Balkans and recognizing Kosovo.

    • January 25, 2011 - 5:13 pm | Permalink

      It’s official EU policy. Here’s Frattini in 2007 Hence my remarks about those in public office being obliged to speak (verbally behave) in certain ways as public employees.

      This is how people here must try to understand behaviour. These are the realities. What people ‘think’ or ‘believe’ literally does not come into it, nor does what these officials ‘say’ outside of their official capacity (aka in private).

  12. January 24, 2011 - 1:05 pm | Permalink


    “Coming on the heels of the sensation caused by Thilo Sarrazin’s book (see “Policing the Elites,” TOO, 9/4/2010) and the alleged anti-Arab remarks of Brice Hortefeux, French Interior Minister, this incident boosts the credibility of anti-immigration forces because it confirms that people at the top levels of the establishment who publicly condemn “racists,” privately agree with them.”

    Sweden is in the EU, and as covered elsewhere, the Lisbon Treaty’s 51 Article Fundamental, Charter of Human Rights obliges those in all public employment to behave in prescribed ways, or else put their government (of which they are part of) in breach of EU law. How individuals behave as private citizens, i.e the views which they hold and express unofficially, are a private matter, and have nothing to do with governance. This is a very important distinction to grasp about modern behaviour. Elsewhere, this point got the ‘thumbs down’, ironically, perhaps, because many people here fail to discriminate adequately? (Even more probably don’t see how such Human Rights legislation favours libertarianism over communitarianism. China etc is well aware of this).

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 24, 2011 - 1:30 pm | Permalink

      @ David …
      Some of your intelligent comments apparently did not survive the “Atlantic Crossing” so to speak … remember, same language, different meaning, etc., etc. So please don’t feel disheartened. You have already contributed some classy and valuable insights (IMHO) that deserved a better reception than their low ratings suggested.

    • January 25, 2011 - 6:08 am | Permalink

      I suspect many will not see how behaviour actually works, its diversity along the continnum of IQ and impulsivity, and how it is collectively managed across the Liberal-Democracies. Governance is largely effected through legislation and regulation, which determines what state (public) employees say and do. Most in the USA are thus in practice, Libertarians, and so most reader and posters here will understandably want to have their cake and eat it in these difficult demographic times. Those who find it upsetting to have their individualism and freedom (so central to the US rights based rather that duties based Constitution) might look to Charles Murray for a defence of the Libertarian position, as in many other respect Murray does good work. However, they should also read Skinner’s ‘Beyond Freedom and Dignity’ (and perhaps ‘News from Nowhere, 1984′ whilst looking into the highly technical work of Richard Herrnstein, Howard Rachlin (these two being Jewish), George Ainslie on impulsivity, self-control, and Behavioural Economics. But they should also bear in mind that the AEI is a Neoconservative Think Tank, that Leon Trotsky wasn’t a statist/Fabian like Stalin or Hitler, and that it has always been regimes inspired by the latter (not Left-Communist/anarchist Trotsky) which Neoconservatives have vilified and/or encouraged the USA to wage Cold or hot wars against in pursuit of regime change and consumer freedom. Domestically, in these progressively more austere economic times (for some parts of the USA and UK/EU more than others), this is what non Libertarian democrats (e.g. Democratic-Centralists) must bear in mind as Old Labour was basically Democratic-Centralist, and Fabianism (cf. the Webbs, HG Well etc) was to the best of my knowledge, a non-Jewish, Gentile creation with roots in Owen (I’m happy to be corrected). After 1945, this was understandably subverted by Conservatives (where the chief ideologue was Keith Joseph) and by entryists calling themselves ‘The Militant Tendency’, under Blair it all gathered pace. This all no doubt seemed to be working in the USA’s best interests, as did the European Project today.

      The problem for Europe today is its below replacement level birth-rates, and how genetic low-skilled immigration impacts on its gene pool, and ultimately upon economic productivity/competitiveness/health. So the question is: Is Europe’s apparent Balkanization into EU NUTs a transition process which will be to its advantage and the USA in the end? Is it just a case engineering ‘ Pulchrum in parvo’? See Skinner 1985 article above. That to me is the big question.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 25, 2011 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

      @ David Longley …
      Please consider writing a full length article for presentation to Professor MacDonald for review and possible publication here at TOO.

      I fear that most of your opinions and arguments tend to be rather too ‘deep’ for Comments. You need to better explain some of the terminology you are employing. You would also benefit from having the additional room to develop your intellectual argument(s).

      By the way, I would conditionally agree with your short assessment of the ideological roots of Fabianism. Although you really need to keep in mind the ever-present back-drop of “British-Israelism”, which was very strong throughout the 19th century and surely would have influenced the Webbs, et al. Furthermore, the Fabian Society established the London School of Economics, which is basically a “shill institution” for advancing internationalist policies favoured by the Rothschilds. The geographic location of the LSE speaks volumes about its ideological loyalties.

  13. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    January 24, 2011 - 12:54 pm | Permalink

    “As with all non-European immigrantion, their presence has caused many serious problems, not least among them the emergence of organised crime.”

    Unassimilated groups in any country, even ones that are very well educated, will resort to organized crime. Albeit the better educated ones do it with a veneer of legality.

  14. Tom Brown's Gravatar Tom Brown
    January 24, 2011 - 9:29 am | Permalink

    Because immigration was encouraged in the USA and Europe at the same time, you can bet the internationalists were behind it.
    They plan on a polyglot populace permeating every nation and region thus sundering white ethnic cohesion. And we let them!

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 24, 2011 - 1:39 pm | Permalink

      @ Tom Brown …
      Yes, Tom, there are quotations from the 1920s and the early 1950s on record, to this effect. I have them on-disk but don’t have the time to go searching at this moment. Mass immigration into all ‘White’ Nations was planned way back.

      One Euro elitist (a Count) announced that Europeans would eventually be mixed with African genes to manufacture a new race. A circa 1952 meeting of Jewish Rabbis in Hungary (I think it was) boasted that the last generation of white children was now being born. The victory of Communism over Europe in 1945 (thanks largely to the intervention of foolish American idealists and dupes) made it possible for these bestial plans to be acted out.

  15. Gravitas's Gravatar Gravitas
    January 23, 2011 - 9:41 pm | Permalink

    @ Art

    “Speaking of open discussion, might we eliminate the ratings? I sense they are used to censor some people.

    Yes, the trolls would just love that, wouldn’t they?

    The thumbs up/thumbs down rating system is one of the best innovations this site has introduced.

    For two reasons:

    (1) The best posters are the ones who express most eloquently the thoughts that are dormant in the minds of most of the other posters who then show their approval of the post by a vote of confidence — a thumbs up.

    (2) The worst posters are the ones who are going to get wiped off the page by votes of non-confidence in what they say. These posters are obviously alien intruders on this site. They don’t share the common assumptions and likes and dislikes of the MAJORITY of bona fide posters here. They are almost certain to be Zionist trolls.

    The new rating system has been called a “self-policing device.” It’s much more than that. It’s a fantastic tool for troll identification.

    The trolls had it easy before. Now they’re worried. They’re squirming around like bugs who’ve just been sprayed with insect repellent.

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      January 25, 2011 - 11:36 am | Permalink

      I agree. I don’t think I’ve seen a flame war since the rating system was engaged. Heated discussion at times, but no personal attacks or accusations.

  16. Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
    January 23, 2011 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    In defense of “Barbara”

    Someday @ January 23, 2011 – 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I know TOO admin understand they are taking a certain risk by allowing the commenter who goes by the name ‘Barbara’ s comments (and similar ones) to appear here but I think they are taking a much bigger risk than they realize.

    Madam Someday,

    We don’t have to always AGREE with Barbara’s posts to be amused and entertained and instructed by them. She has an original mind and a unique way of expressing herself that makes everything she says a positive delight.

    Is Kevin MacDonald taking a risk in publishing Barbara’s posts? If controversial ideas and originality of thought are risky propositons, then yes, Kevin is taking a very great risk.

    As far as I’m concerned, Madam Someday, Kevin MacDonald is taking a far greater risk each time he publishes one of YOUR posts. I am not being vindictive or mean-sppirited when I say this. I am being honest and truthful.

    I find your posts so utterly boring, so devoid of common sense and logic, so spiteful, so sanctimonious, so groveling, so emotionally jejune and spiritually bankrupt, so narrow-minded and politically correct, so pusillanimous, so reeking of malice and malevolence, so trollish and terrifyingly soul-destroying, that I cannot help feeling Kevin MacDonald is taking a MASSIVE RISK every time he allows you to come on to this site and spray your vomit over everyone.

    You are enought, Madam Someday, to chase any new visitor to this site away!

    You are a major deterrent to anyone wishing to take an interest in this site or donating to it.

    The average White Nationalist, after reading any of your posts, will groan in spirit and take to his heels — and NEVER AGAIN visit the Occidental Observer!

    Barbara, you’re a doll. Please continue to regale us with your wisdom and charm. And pay no attention to our resident Zionist troll masquerading as a White Nationalist.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 24, 2011 - 4:59 am | Permalink

      @ Anonyma …
      Madam Someday has been hitting this website 24/7 for the past 4 weeks. Maybe longer, but I wasn’t attending before then on a regular basis. She is a nutter. She is also clicking on the Thumbs Down button almost immediately, whenever certain Monikers post a comment (any comment).

      I would also like to compliment you Anonyma on the content of your above post. I suspect you took the words out of many TOO visitors mouths, and then some. Thanks for saying what was needed to be said. Quite amusing and satisfying actually.

      Barbara … your provocative style of thinking and analysis is, although occasionally uncomfortable, nonetheless very welcome because it is consistently thought provoking. You have posed many illuminating, “what-if” scenarios, while testing certain people’s resolve. Several have cried or pissed their pants as a result; while the backbone of the remainder (the majority) has grown more steely. Well done.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      January 24, 2011 - 5:25 am | Permalink

      @ Anglo Saxon

      Thanks, fellow countryman.
      I suspect we come from the same benighted land.
      Evil Albion! :)

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      January 24, 2011 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

      Anyone can be anything on the internet, case in point the the numerous nutzi posters on VNN and Stormfront who turned out to be one Canadian man trying to inveigle gullible fools into saying something he could use in court cases. Many of the false identities he is known to have used were female . The known ones are the tip of the iceberg as he claims to have forgotten most of them. He spent a lot of time complaining about trolls and sometimes said he was British.

      Nutzis are not put in cells with blacks in Britain so Barbara’s fans (AKA ‘the TOO brains trust’) may well get locked up with one of these fellows. They can pass the time by accusing each other of being a infiltrator. A white man who gets thrown into a US prison will have a much less easy time of it.

  17. Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
    January 23, 2011 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    “Bildt is not saying anything very controversial. He could have mentioned the rampant violent and sexual crime directed towards Swedes”.

    Yes, I can attest to that. When I was in Stockholm, I was almost raped on the subway by an immigrant from Bongo Bongo land. Was I dressed like a tart? No way! I was wearing jeans.

    See here: Immigrant Rape Wave in Sweden

    “Swedish girls Malin and Amanda were on their way to a party on New Year’s Eve when they were assaulted, raped and beaten half to death by four Somali immigrants….

    A group of Swedish teenage girls has designed a belt that requires two hands to remove and which they hope will deter would-be rapists. “It’s like a reverse chastity belt,” one of the creators, 19-year-old Nadja Björk, told AFP, meaning that the wearer is in control…[and can stop her rapist undressing her].

    There are reports of rapes happening in broad daylight. Thirty guests in a Swedish public bath watched as a 17-year-old girl was raped recently, and nobody did anything. The girl was first approached by 16-year-old boy. He and his friends followed her as she walked away toward a grotto, and inside the grotto he got her blocked in the corner, ripped off her bikini and raped her, while his friend held her firm.

    There are even reports of Swedish girls being attacked and cut with knives on the dance floor. A 21-year-old man who came to Sweden a couple of years ago admits that he has a low opinion of Swedish females — or “whores” as he calls them.

    * * *

    Yes, it’s those darn miniskirts. Those chicks are asking for it. I suggest that Swedish women cover up their charms a bit more discreetly and wear jeans like me — though I can’t say wearing jeans helmed ME all that much. Sigh.

    Trouble is, these immigrants come from weird countries where their women are all buried under mounds of clothes. You barely know what these women look like. They’re like walking tents.

    Naturally when the men from these outlandish countries get to the West and see beautiful chicks strutting around, all honey-skinned and horrendously sexy, they go berserk.

    You got to feel sorry for them. We Westerners need to adapt. Western women need to show less leg.

    It’s the only way to survive.

    • AWoLsco's Gravatar AWoLsco
      January 31, 2011 - 7:04 pm | Permalink

      I take it you are female Anonyma. I’m male and was thinking of wearing my kilt when I visited Stockholm.
      Maybe I would be best to wear plain trousers.
      Now those chastity belts, where can you buy those?
      Or maybe I should resort to the Glasgow girls’ primary anti-rape weapon…the sharpened steel comb.
      “You put that f.ckin’ thing awa’ pal or you’ll get this up yer aerosol”
      Just a bit of friendly foreplay, you understand.
      Perhaps the Stockholm/Swedish lassies might benefit with conferring with their Glaswegian counterparts?

  18. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 23, 2011 - 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Magnus Unger:
    “As with all non-European immigrantion, their presence has caused many serious problems, not least among them the emergence of organised crime.”

    European immigrants (like Albanians) are not really much different.

    O.K. Most European immigrants are not troublemakers, but Sweden is just not Sweden with all those non-Swedes running around.

    So, when are you finally going to start talking about European immigrants?
    I mean, there are more Serbs in Sweden than Turks and Blacks combined. And they have no intention of assimilating into Swedish society, just like the notorious Mijailo Mijailović who killed Anna Lindh (Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs) in 2003.

    • Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
      January 23, 2011 - 11:33 pm | Permalink

      Ethno, that guy was clinically insane. He had attacked his own father with a knife–though among Serbs this may be a cherished tradition.

      I’m afraid you won’t get much agreement round here with that position. This is a **racist** site. Criticism of white people **unerwunscht**!

    • Geiseric's Gravatar Geiseric
      January 24, 2011 - 6:17 am | Permalink

      Ethnonationalism points out a serious problem in EUROPE, even if it is not understood as such in an AMERICAN context. WN is nonsense in Europe.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 24, 2011 - 8:19 am | Permalink

      @ Geiseric …
      Correct. WN is indeed a ‘nonsense’ term when it comes to turning around the situation in Europe. There, all we need do is revert to plain vanilla Nationalism, as of course, Europe was always ours to begin with. It is where the ‘White’ peoples of the world actually evolved and established their unique DNA. No moral argument or special pleading is necessary.

      The so-called Sephardic ‘Jews’ first entered Europe from North Africa (mainly Morocco) and then the Iberian peninsula. The earliest Ashkenazi ‘Jews’ came from Italy following the fall of Rome, followed by those entering later from the Pontic Steppe region and beyond.

      The fact that the Ashkenazim have been residing in Germanic territory and in Poland for centuries is neither here nor there. They didn’t start out there. But it is in England where the rot began, and where it continues. Because this is of course where the City of London resides: the engine — fuelled by the huge vacuum cleaner that is the US Federal Reserve System — that is ultimately ‘driving’ the demise of ethnic ‘Whites’.

  19. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    January 23, 2011 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Wikileaks is in reality a CIA / MI6 / Mossad tool for enacting the mass cognitive manipulation of (especially young) people worldwide. The idea for creating something like ‘Wikileaks’ originated with Cass Sunstein, who today heads Obama’s White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

    Please take time out to listen / read Webster G. Tarpley’s compelling explanation at this URL:

    Awareness is growing around the world that the Wikileaks-Julian Assange theater of the absurd is radically inauthentic – a psyop. Wikileaks and its impaired boss represent a classic form of limited hangout or self-exposure, a kind of lurid striptease in which the front organization releases doctored and pre-selected materials provided by the intelligence agency with the intent of harming, not the CIA, nor the UK, nor the Israelis, but rather such classic CIA enemies’ list figures as Putin, Berlusconi, Karzai, Qaddafi, Rodriguez de Kirchner, etc.


    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      January 23, 2011 - 5:23 pm | Permalink

      Anglo-Saxon, I’m starting to think you’re right. This ‘leak’ seems like a classic red herring. Take your eye off the ball of the Muslim hordes, throw in a little cultural relativism (another favorite of the hostile elites)….

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 24, 2011 - 5:16 am | Permalink

      @ Athanasius …
      You might find this YouTube video (inserted on a Jeff Rense page) both entertaining and highly informative.

      It cleverly exposes just how Wikileaks fits in with the overarching strategies being dreamt up in Manhattan, Washington, the City of London, and the Rothschild lair on the island of Corfu.

    • January 24, 2011 - 1:44 pm | Permalink

      Sunstein is a Libertarian (anarchist) as is Thayer, the coauthor of the popular book ‘Nudge’. Thayer (a cognitive psychologist) has also been advising the new UK (Libertarian) coalition Government. The irony here is that as explained elsewhere, Herrnstein effectively wrote in 1990 (just as Skinner did before him) that respectable (animal) research evidence in Behavioural Economics points to communitarianism (including protective financial sector regulation), not to economic anarchism/Libertarianism. But as that’s bad for some people’s fame or fortune, it probably won’t get the thumbs up, even here? Sadly, Herrnstein died in 1994, the year his book (‘The Bell Curve’ co-authored with AEI Libertarian Charles Murray) was published.

      Some food for thought, for those who can muster it?

  20. Student's Gravatar Student
    January 23, 2011 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    It’s an interesting development, but I’m not going to get my hopes up. I’m sure that many of the people at the top in the UK have harboured these kinds of feelings for a long time – but that doesn’t mean they would ever change policy to suit their beliefs, lest they take the risk of losing their job, livlihood and reputation. Career politicians will always be the same, concerned with their own selfish needs first, and with the wellbeing of their subjects last.

  21. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    January 23, 2011 - 11:12 am | Permalink

    Sweden always has been compassionate toward the world’s poor and distressed

    In effect Caleb ” help to these populations **in situ**” is all part of a Proxy War Against Israel

  22. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    January 23, 2011 - 10:39 am | Permalink

    Sweden’s more liberalized immigration policies were not wholly altruistic. Even employing women in occupations like combat pilot, merchant mariner and miner, the birth rate among ethnic Swedes dropped so low that there simply were not enough young people to fill essential jobs.

    Sweden always has been compassionate toward the world’s poor and distressed but historically gave help to these populations **in situ**, keeping them well away from Swedish soil.

    • P. Main's Gravatar P. Main
      January 24, 2011 - 12:39 pm | Permalink

      Birthrates go up and down naturally, depending overall on what the individual population requires for the most part. The whole ‘replacement’ myth is just that, myth. The birthrates amongst non-whites in the US are sky-high because they are subsidized with white tax dollars. More babies, more money. The entire West is submerged in an artificial system. That the ‘elites’, non-jewish elites, see problems, is a good sign. Something is going to blow, and the flood isn’t going to go the way the jews would like, despite their innate arrogance and usual overconfidence.

    • Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
      January 24, 2011 - 4:16 pm | Permalink

      The “myth” is that welfare payments are a driver of fertility rates. Some local politicians like Mayor Rudy Giuliani in New York have tried to reduce the size of the underclass by placing dollar limits on AFDC payments per capita. Birthrates remained where they were.

      “Replacement” means simply keeping national population at the same level. Governments get anxious when statistics clearly show a drop in population- -unless this is a deliberate step like China’s “one child” policy. Certain jobs are considered essential and when there are no young men to fill them governments will resort to untried steps, recruitment of women for one.

    • JS Settings's Gravatar JS Settings
      January 24, 2011 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

      Not true at all about welfare not being the driving force behind high fertility rates among the blacks and browns. Fertility rates among Mexican women for example, are higher in the US where they get the freebies, than in Mexico where they get dirt floors and VD. The “caps” Rudy put on AFDC did not stop women from getting more money for each child they had, nor stop more and higher benefits from other sources, WIC and the like. They were an attempt to put a limit on the payments for each child per year.

      Populations do go up and down. For instance, White American families no longer need 6 children each to work the farm. White Americans certainly don’t need the additional “children” the government has mandated they support, each working White tossing more and more of of their hard earned dollars at blacks, browns and Israelis, all of these “children” Uncle Sam has saddled Whites with always feeling entitled to more and more of the fruits of our efforts. These parasites are busy 24/7 eating up more and more White earnings through our confiscatory tax system. A system now designed solely to take money from Whites, and put it it in the pockets of jews, blacks and browns. The jews can attempt to build their empire, the blacks and browns can have their illegitimate children, buy their liquor, drugs, enjoy subsidized housing and be told the people that pay for it all are vile racists who deserved to be victimized. And we all know who’s telling them this. It’s the same people who try to tell the Swedes that immigration is necessary.

  23. Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
    January 23, 2011 - 8:19 am | Permalink

    It is demanded that white countries and only white countries, take in millions of people that are not of their race, until the whites are a minority and for everyone to “mix in”. It is genocide.

  24. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    January 23, 2011 - 7:59 am | Permalink

    If only our leaders could grow some courage. They must know that the majority of Americans would support them.

    How could we use these non White immigrants and turn them against the jew so that he is hanged by his own petard.

    We could stir blacks against them by reporting on how black diamond miners in Africa live on dirt floors and near starvation while the jew reaps billions off African resources.

    We could report to blacks that every jew organization in America has abandoned them in favor of helping hispanics and when these hispanics come to America they force blacks to the bottom of society.

    Diversity actually makes blacks worse off because White society can no longer help blacks who have been here since the time of the founding fathers because we must be forced to deal with immigrants who have been here only a short time.

    We should stir up every Muslim in the nation by telling them that the jew media has insulted Islam and used the most powerful military in the world against innocent Muslims in their own countries.

    The jew media scapegoats Muslims for terrorism when obviously there is no Muslim terrorism. 9-11 was a Mossad operation which was blamed upon Muslims. If Muslims were a threat, the United States would have experienced many acts of terrorism given our open borders.

    jews insult the intelligence of Muslims. Any Muslim capable of pulling off 9-11 would be intelligent enough to know that it would accomplish nothing and it would be far better to attack AIPAC headquarters or to use assassination techniques as jews do. The jew is setting up the Muslim and in America they have golden opportunities to attack their enemies.

    Why don’t we use psychological warfare and turn these other races against the jew since he likes so much to keep bringing more and more of them into our country?

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      January 23, 2011 - 12:47 pm | Permalink

      @ Barbara …
      We in the West haven’t had any leaders worth the name since John F. Kennedy had his brain’s blown out and spread over the back of the Presidential Limousine, with the 3rd shot that hit him. They say a mercury filled “assassin’s” bullet was used for that shot fired from the grassy knoll.

      Ultimately, JFK was killed on the orders of the Rothschilds, because the primary sponsor of Israel has always been the Rothschilds. JFK had threatened both the future of the Federal Reserve’s Currency, and Israel’s illegal nuclear programme. That was a double insult to the Rothschild Satanic Clan.

      There is no politics today. It is all theater. In every country it is the same. Every nation’s politics is being conducted by a baton being waved by agencies of the United Nations and the EU (and in Asia by ASEAN). The music the baton waivers are conducting has already been composed by the Bilderberg attendees and by the Committee of the 300. This is why the Hollywood B-Movie actor, Ronald Reagan made such a ‘good’ president, and why “Obama the Clown” can’t speak in public if the teleprompt breaks down.

      Ergo, there is no sense in appealing to “leaders” because those that we do have are … for the time being … remaining low key and avoiding direct confrontation.

      There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven. [Ecclesiastes 3:1]

      To everything – turn, turn, turn
      There is a season – turn, turn, turn
      And a time for every purpose under heaven

      A time of war, a time of peace
      A time of love, a time of hate
      A time you may embrace
      A time to refrain from embracing

      ~ The Byrds (Turn! Turn! Turn!)

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      January 23, 2011 - 2:44 pm | Permalink

      I know TOO admin understand they are taking a certain risk by allowing the commenter who goes by the name ‘Barbara’ s comments (and similar ones) to appear here but I think they are taking a much bigger risk than they realize.

      There are a lot of unstable people in this world (eg the Spokane bomb culprit) who are primed by coverage of events such as the the Arizona shooting. This stuff is in the air now. Being left alone on ‘On violence as a tactic’ seems to have emboldened ‘Barbara’ now she’s advocating that nationalists provoke Muslims into terrorist acts:-

      should stir up every Muslim in the nation by telling them that the jew media has insulted Islam[…] it would be far better to attack AIPAC headquarters or to use assassination techniques

      People like Rachel Maddow will not have to task their skills in making connections. An internet log showing visits to TOO to read stuff like ‘Barbara’s comments will be taken as a cast iron connection.

  25. mysmajcus's Gravatar mysmajcus
    January 23, 2011 - 6:12 am | Permalink

    Bildt and Billström belongs to Moderaterna, the former rightwing party, allthough they praise multiculture and they implement the same massimmigration policies as the left, they are probally not true believers in the same fashion as the left. The social democrats(s), and especially the greens(mp), the liberals(fp) and the former communists(v) are to a large extent multiculturalists fanatics. After having decried the sweden democrats as nazies for years and publically approved of violence against them the moderates are trapped in their multiculturalist policies. It would be almost impossible now to do a u-turn now and promote a more restrective immigration policy.

    • January 24, 2011 - 4:11 pm | Permalink

      More mundanely, and more likely, all the immigration is just a necessary evil (under the current political-econoimic system) to compensate for chronically below replacement level birth rates (nearly all are way below 2.1).

      There wasn’t so much a baby-boom after WWII as a baby-blip. There was a low-birth rate well before the war in Europe, and these problems were predicted before the war (to begin hitting the UK in the 70s), and now, across the Liberal-Democracies (East and West), this has become a very serious political-economic probem, as it’s a looming disaster for any remaining welfare state because populations are now ageing, and older people need pensions, more healthcare, and …there are not enough young people to shop, borrow etc. Basically, it’s bad for consumer debt – which in turn, means projected shrinking profits and pensions. Hence it’s bad for the liberal economies, and immigration is deemed good for these economies. It’s just that with such wide wealth disparities, it’s far better for some groups’ economies (i.e. the tiny percentage with most of the wealth, and Jewish people are over-represented because they have somehow developed a higher group mean IQ – especially verbal (a female characteristic) – via eugenics?) and not so good for the rest (majority). So many are just slagging off the elite as usual. Many amongst the elite have never been never nice. But, hey, that’s our system – Now, who wants to change it? Not many according to ratings here and at the polling stations across the Liberal-Democracies.

      That’s probably the truth you know.

    • January 24, 2011 - 5:34 pm | Permalink

      “P. Main January 24, 2011 – 12:39 pm | Permalink Birthrates go up and down naturally, depending overall on what the individual population requires for the most part. The whole ‘replacement’ myth is just that, myth.”

      Myth? Not according to a consensus of academic demographic research from all over the Liberal-Democratic world. I suggest you look into the research. This is the core problem hitting the liberal-democracies today, it’s been insidious, people don’t notice it and blame other variables, most of which are just consequences. It was at the core of The Bell Curve and the eugenics movement well before WWII, and for some, even before WWI (see how NCAH affects fertility). It was also one of the major problems Germany was trying to deal with it in 30s, although some would have many believe that their objectives were unique and sinister. See Gemany and its TFR today, and its immigration to compensate. See Russia and Eastern Europe since the end of the USSR. See Japan since the end of WWII – this is Libertarian freedom:- below replacement level fertility is >i>prima facie evidence of poor ‘biological fitness’. We also have dysgenic differential fertility on top of that.

  26. Philip's Gravatar Philip
    January 23, 2011 - 4:54 am | Permalink

    Why would multiculturalists object to honor killings?

  27. January 23, 2011 - 4:17 am | Permalink

    “As far as I know, honour killings are primarily a Kurdish/Islamic ‘cultural practice’ and not an Assyrian/Syriac one.”

    Honor killings are rife in the Middle Eastern Muslim world due to the levels of inbreeding there. But honor killing is also quite common in the Hindu world. And not unheard of amongst Christians in the Middle East. It all has to do with the type and degree of inbreeding in the community.

    Here is a possible case of an Assyrian Christian honor killing, although she may have been Armenian, not Assyrian.

  28. Robert Browning's Gravatar Robert Browning
    January 23, 2011 - 1:34 am | Permalink

    this incident boosts the credibility of anti-immigration forces because it confirms that people at the top levels of the establishment who publicly condemn “racists,” privately agree with them.

    EVERYONE does, and the majority of White Americans do too, but are cowed because the Jewish TV “news” shows say that it’s somehow “bad” to be for your own people and your own country.

    It’s the TV, that’s it. Especially with the older crowd, they believe whatever it says.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      January 24, 2011 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

      Elites don’t like the Third Worlders’ backward attitudes but they don’t think in racial/ ethnic terms. It is a mistake to think the political leadership in Europe are having second thoughts about the displacement of white people, they don’t think in racial/ ethnic terms. David Cameron wants Turkey in the EU despite the fact that:-
      <blockquote.if Turkey did achieve membership in 2025, say, it is projected to have a larger population than any other EU country. That would give Turkey, overnight, the largest delegation of members of the European Parliament.

  29. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    January 23, 2011 - 1:17 am | Permalink

    I find it hard to believe that Assyrians have been perpetrating honor killings in Sweden. I can’t help but wonder if accusing Christians is more tolerable by a good liberal in Sweden than accusing the Muslims.

    • mysmajcus's Gravatar mysmajcus
      January 23, 2011 - 5:51 am | Permalink

      I don’t know what honourkillings Bildt is talking about but assyrians is a group that are behaving very badly in Sweden and who are inherently incompatible with europeans. The swedish town of Södertälje is more or less taken over by assyrian criminals. The infamous Ronna-incident in 2006 was perpetrated by assyrians. A group of assyrian men sexually/verbally assaulted a young swedish girl to the point that she had to take refuge at the local policestation. When she was giving the police her testomony the station was shot at with automatic riffles. As far as I know no one was convicted and shortly there after swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt held a speech at Ronna where he praised immigration, “All progress have come from abroad”, and decried everything swedish “the only thing ur-swedish is barbarism”.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      January 23, 2011 - 5:05 pm | Permalink

      Well, I can’t claim any knowledge of what is going on in Sweden. I won’t try to change your mind. However, there are about 3.5 million Assyrians in all the Middle East. If they ALL came to the West (evenly distributed of course, not all to Sweden), they would be irrelevant. On the other hand, there are over a billion Muslims who are inherently hostile to Western culture… many of them flooding into the West from places like Pakistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, etc.

      I think that Middle Eastern Christians could be assimilated into Western societies once they lose the mentality of 1600 years of struggle with the Muslims. That said, I’d prefer they stay where they are. We could help keep them where they are by constantly stirring the hornet’s nest of the Middle East for the benefit of… Regardless, we mustn’t succumb to cultural relativism, and we should bear in mind whence the true demographic and cultural threats are coming.

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