American Jews: “We can be racialists in the Diaspora”

Under pressure from American Jews, the Israeli government has withdrawn TV ads urging Israelis to return to Israel to avoid being contaminated by intermarriage and non-Jewish culture. The ads emphasize a central motivation of Zionism: Jewish racial purity. That is, prominent early Zionists (most notably Vladimir Jabotinsky, the father of the Likud faction that now dominates Israel) were deeply worried that Jews in the Diaspora in the West were succumbing to intermarriage.  Zionism  has always been first and foremost a tribal preservation project. As Jewish racial scientist Elias Auerbach phrased it, “Zionism would return Jews ‘back into the position they enjoyed before the nineteenth century—politically autonomous, culturally whole, and racially pure’” (see here, p. 158).

Responding to the ads, a Jeffrey Goldberg blog in The Atlantic was titled “Netanyahu Government Suggests Israelis Avoid Marrying American Jews.” Goldberg claimed that

the idea, communicated in these ads [is] that America is no place for a proper Jew, and that a Jew who is concerned about the Jewish future should live in Israel… The message is: Dear American Jews, thank you for lobbying for American defense aid (and what a great show you put on at the AIPAC convention every year!) but, please, stay away from our sons and daughters.

As Goldberg notes, the real sin of the Israeli government in the eyes of American Jews was that there was no distinction between marrying American Jews and American non-Jews.  The implicit message of the ADL and other Jews who objected to the ads is that Israeli endogamy is a wonderful thing, but it is an insult to American Jews to think that they can’t remain remain culturally separate and racially pure in the Diaspora.

I know that the Jewish double standard on endogamy is an old story around here, but it bears repeating again and again. Whites who are concerned about the future of their race and about retaining their culture are considered moral reprobates—psychiatric cases not fit to participate in civilized political discourse. But analogous Jewish concerns are absolutely mainstream, both in Israel and the Jewish Diaspora in the West.

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140 Comments to "American Jews: “We can be racialists in the Diaspora”"

  1. Hans's Gravatar Hans
    December 2, 2011 - 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald,

    Check this out: woman in UK goes on rant to protest
    White dispossession in her own country, and gets referred for psychiatric treatment, among other things.

    NBC coverage:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45526795/ns/world_news-europe/t/uk-woman-draws-death-threats-over-racist-train-rant/

    Original YouTube video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47HoiM0Au8

    Video is worth posting in the video section on the TOO frontpage.

  2. Hans's Gravatar Hans
    December 2, 2011 - 7:22 pm | Permalink

    @Hans: Arrg! I meant, “referred for psychiatric evaluation” and not treatment.

  3. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 2, 2011 - 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Nevermind the fact that the conservative synagogues of America just approved marrying outside the faith wholesale-Kevin MacDonald will go on with his selective hate mongering. He, and probably most of the other white males on this site, seriously need to get layed.

  4. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    December 2, 2011 - 7:43 pm | Permalink

    … the idea, communicated in these ads [is] that America is no place for a proper Jew, …

    Why would any sane European American take issue with this ?

  5. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 2, 2011 - 11:00 pm | Permalink

    A neocon publication just stated that in the middle easy “Peace will depend on the character and behavior of our foes.” When we suggest the same standard we are declared insane anti-semites and racists. It never ceases to amaze me!

  6. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 3, 2011 - 12:50 am | Permalink

    Since we are essentially a moral people (and therefore can be easily manipulated by moral arguments) it is one of our greatest weapons to expose again and again the Jewish double standards.This will remove the foundation upon which their moral posturing is based.Once the Jews are recognized as the hypocrites they are ,they never again can be our moral arbiters and mislead us.That is why it is so important to keep on harping on the crimes of Israel and the support of the Jewish diaspora for that rogue state.Anti-zionism is becoming mainstream and it can be used as a proxy for what incorrectly is called “anti-Semitism” but what I prefer to call Judeo-critique.

  7. JB's Gravatar JB
    December 3, 2011 - 3:40 am | Permalink

    @Hans:
    yeah this was disgusting. i was expecting a blog post from KMAC on this.

  8. Si's Gravatar Si
    December 3, 2011 - 3:47 am | Permalink

    Jews in America probably intermarry more than not, in other words more than half do so. What is hypocritical therefore about Jews politically supporting exogamy?

    Why does no one understand that all the problems of educated, wealthy and White man afflict Jews more? A higher proportion of Jews would self-identify this way than any other group in America.

    Israel is a different country altogether (it is so obvious, why does it need to be spelt out?). Imagine Scotland were still based on the Clans and traditional and all that; perhaps because England was continually threatening to invade, would Scots American be hypocrites for loving Scotland but still being the SWPL types that they are?

    No, I’m English and I think the Muslim Brotherhood are fine rulers for Egypt but I’d want them immediately deported from here.

  9. Aaron's Gravatar Aaron
    December 3, 2011 - 5:33 am | Permalink

    I think Mr. MacDonald is right that there’s a double standard, but he wrongly identifies it. Historically there has been little opposition, Jewish or otherwise, to white ethnic endogamy – Irish-American parents wanting their children to marry Irish, etc. So there’s no double standard for Jews and, e.g., Irish-Americans (cf. Abie’s Irish Rose and Bridget Loves Bernie).

    Therefore, the opposition isn’t to whites per se. I think it’s there for two reasons. First, there’s the America’s history of white supremacy. Worries about miscegenation are bound up with that whole history; it’s practically impossible to separate them, even now that the situation has changed. Second, there’s the fact that whites are perceived to be the dominant race in America, so there’s the usual identification with the underdog, in this case against whites. As a thought experiment, imagine that WASPs also started expressing worries about inter-marriage. I expect that the reaction would be very negative, much different than the reaction to Irish or Jewish Americans. That’s because WASPs are (still) perceived as dominant.

    Disclaimer: I’m a Jew, so everything I wrote above is a lie.

  10. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 6:41 am | Permalink

    On this issue of racial loyalty, I wonder if there could be conditions under which it might make sense for individuals to defect from their ethnic group. Could it ever be in the self-interest of a person to act against most of his genetic kin and favor those outside his group?

    I can’t help thinking that many defector Whites believe it is in their self-interest (or I should say, some part of their brain does) to destroy a homogeneous White society. Could it be adaptive for some?

    Maybe a White person who would normally be looked down on by other Whites, but imagines his social position would be elevated if large numbers of non-Whites are brought in.

  11. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 3, 2011 - 7:09 am | Permalink

    @Aaron:
    Ethnic groups have ethnic interests and the most fundamental ethnic interest is of course survival,which means in practice : endogamy. This basic interest is the same for all ethnic groups whether they are “dominant” or not.You cannot “trade” in this basic interest according to historical circumstances,allowing it to some ethnic groups but denying it to others.
    We have no problem with Jews protecting this basic interest for themselves in a way they see fit,we have a problem with Jews hypocritically attacking Whites for wanting that very same basic interest.And it is not only the case that Jews attack that basic interest of Whites as “immoral” (because “racist”) but also that with their political influence they actively promote mass immigration of non-Whites into all White countries and with their control of the mass media,film industry,advertisement and education they promote the miscegenation of Whites with non-Whites.

    Your argument that Jews “only” object to endogamy of the dominant White group (Anglo-Saxons that is) but not to that of other ethnic White groups (such as the Irish) is in fact a confession of racial subversion. You admit that your aim is to undermine the dominant group and that your weapon is racial destruction.
    In reality your strategy of criminalizing White endogamy together with the mass immigration of non-Whites and the promotion of miscegenation affects all White groups in all White countries wherever your destructive tribe is active.And you have the CHUTZPAH to ask us for “understanding”?
    Yes,we do “understand”, but in a different way you mean,we understand what your aim is: OUR GENOCIDE,but no,we will not accept that.

  12. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 3, 2011 - 7:21 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Jason,no “Darwinian” mystery here,what you refer to is the benefit for traitors.Yes,that does exist,the whole hostile elite of the Western world consists of such traitors,unfortunately.The benefit is status and wealth,the price is destruction of their own people.

  13. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    December 3, 2011 - 7:40 am | Permalink

    @matthew:

    Nevermind the fact that the conservative synagogues of America just approved marrying outside the faith wholesale-Kevin MacDonald will go on with his selective hate mongering. He, and probably most of the other white males on this site, seriously need to get layed.

    Even though some people caution against responding to comments like this, I want to address a couple things.

    I don’t think Dr. MacDonald is trying to stir up hatred of Jews. He is lovingly and courageously shining a light on some important stories and issues that few others are willing to discuss. Many people here feel a deep sense of gratitude for his contribution.

    Matthew suggests that Dr. MacDonald and others in this community engage in more recreational sex.

    I can’t speak for everyone else in this community, but I do not believe that sexual sin is the solution to any problem, especially a problem which Matthew has failed to prove or even adequately identify.

    It’s merely an attempt at shaming those who do not engage in recreational sex. I hope others do not fall for it.

  14. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 7:45 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Yes, but while I understand the benefit that goes to separate ethnic group (Jews in this case), what about the Whites that cooperate?

    Now, some Whites are part of the parasitical elite and that may explain their actions – although I am not sure if it does in genetic terms – I just don’t know. But what about the millions of Whites that seem eager to embrace the end of White homogeneity?

    I am thinking of friends I have known going back to high school that seemed to have a grudge against the larger White society. Most of them are middle class or working class. I can think of one that was 1/8th Cherokee, so maybe that motivated it in his case. But there are a more than a few regular Whites that seem to embrace this stuff with some enthusiasm, and most seem to be outcasts of some variety or another. I don’t mean to suggest that most Whites feel this way, because they don’t, but there is a significant minority of Whites that seem rather motivated to tear down traditional White society. Could their be some advantage for these non-elite Whites?

  15. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 3, 2011 - 8:52 am | Permalink

    Dr. Kevin, I dealt with this news on my blog a few days ago.

    I can understand the real purpose of these ads. Israel fears not only its demographic but also its religious and parasitic Tsunami. In Israel the fertility rate for Jews is 2.6%, Muslims 4.6% and among 110,000 Bedouins is 5.9%. However, ABC’s Ben Knight believes that Israel is doomed by religious Jews who hate to be part of work force and not that much from rise in the population of native Muslims and Christians…..

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/bibi-thou-shalt-not-marry-an-american-jew/

  16. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    December 3, 2011 - 8:55 am | Permalink

    What might be important about this Ad is the timing -the collapse of the US $ and the very likely Territorial expansion war in the Middle East . The new land will need new settlers .We that have read through the wickedness of Zionist in the 20th Century should not underestimate their scheming minds . The Average Jo & Suzanne who sit around their pool find it difficult to see into the diabolical minds of fanatical ZioCapitalist –frankly the idea is much to unpleasant , its a house to house combat that nobody wants but which these zealots are engaged in with us right at this moment and have been for the last 100 years . How else can it be that the USA Gov is twisted around their finger : they whip and the Jonkey jumps.
    Look at the end of the WW2 , it is all very very blatant but OUR PEOPLE are frightened to admit whats going on as the Jews control the zeitgeist by controlling the Media lock stock and barrel .Its an insidious web of total deceit and because humans are Herd Animals they are trapped in this room of mirrors not able to comprehend how this can be so , and Big Brother is constantly blaring out …Terrorist ..Terrorist … Anti Semite Anti Semite ….Nazi Gangs …White…White supremacist, Holocaust denial ,Revisionist Historian ,Hate Laws , Hate Trials , Racist Attack ,Sex Crime ,Rape ….. .And with the Universities completely hoodwinked on the Left Wing none-sense of Multiculturalism (who does the shit work when every minority (tribe) wants to be on top (rule) ? , Climate Change (.ooo39% Atmos C and the climate always changing anyway ) , Discrimination that has driven its analysis into every crevice of human existance . And lets not forget the 20 years of Al Greenspan the Talmudic Fed chief who guided this disaster along with Sumner , Rubin and a host of other Jews (the US Fed of course is stacked with them) . Yes my friends it is total intellectual and social chaos Just As the Protocols said it would become …. And isn’t it curious how the crescendo just happens to be centred around evil evil Iran and the poor honest defenceless Israel ? .But it all comes back to controlling the Zeitgeist through the media and so the Herd and the Herds leaders(?) , who look to the Media for social direction , don’t know how to short circuit this MASSIVE CONFIDENCE TRICK . And yet the evidence is so blatantly obvious , where ever we look . Their LIES are so bold so outrageous and yet so congruent with the Social Construct of the MSM that only we the HONOURABLE are able to step outside the Mushroom circle and see what is really happening . But our complaints have become impotent as the Sheeple have been lead to think that they don’t need logic to run a society. Perhaps the Gentile establishment is waking up to whats going on but the Herd Journalist View has them trapped . Does not this financal meltdown in Europe seem a little contrived ? A little convenient that the MSM calls for a European Central Bank with extensive powers to takeover the Euro ? Say like the USA Federal Reserve?

    Why the obsession to centralise the world .To homogenise to nothing . Already TV & Video has done this and I am old enough to have seen the before and after . Why do we want Greece to become a cross between France and Germany ? For what ? So some Wankers in their counting houses can push a few beens down a pole? These soulless digits might try getting a life view , not just a toy view . And I suppose that is the fundamental problem , that these un-appointed know-alls think that because they are more devious cruel & cunning they deserve to rule the world . Alas a flawed folly that we see that the gods will not , do not support for the Earth compared to the Universe is nothing , nothing to them . Yet the folly of some men who think they are a God will be the misfortune of us all .

    Kevin tells us that the adds (if they were actually ever made) have been stopped but these adds have reached their target audience already so the job has been accomplished . Perhaps seeding for the near future .

  17. Shiva's Gravatar Shiva
    December 3, 2011 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

    You cannot be among us because you are a crime syndicate masquerading as a religion. It’s that simple.

  18. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 3, 2011 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Wrong as usual. In the West, the popularity come with blind support for Jewish causes and Israel – and not by supporting immigration. Open your racist eyes and find the truth around you.

    US Defense Secretary, Leon Panett, is a genuine Italian White Catholic – and look what he said yesterday tp “elevate his status” among the American whites.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/pentagon-chief-israel-is-being-isolated/

  19. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:26 pm | Permalink

    The Story of Yaakov Markus
    Quoted from Maxim Ghilan How Israel Lost Its Soul, Penguin Books (1974) p179:

    ‘Yaakov Markus was born in Berlin on 22 November 1927 to a non-Jewish mother named Mathilde Markus and to a Jewish father. He came to Israel and in the fifties was drafted to serve in the 1956 Sinai campaign. He was killed there and buried provisionally at the Shelah Military Cemetery. Later this cemetery was abolished and the dead were transferred to other permanent graves. Yaakov Markus’s bones were to be interred – as Jewish custom stipulates for Gentile dead – ‘beyond the pale’, that is, behind a small stone fence cordoning off a piece of the Haifa cemetery.

    ‘In this plot were buried other non-Jewish fighters, pilots and technicians who lost their lives helping Israel win her independence in 1948 and preserving it in the years that followed. Markus’s parents did not accept the Rabbinate’s ruling. They wanted their son to be granted the same honor as the rest of his fallen friends – burial in the Military Cemetery. General Goren, the Chief Rabbi of the Israeli Army – a visionary racist who wanted the conquest of both banks of the Jordan, advocated a religious state and tried to modernize religion for that purpose – was not in the country. The bereaved parents appealed directly to the Prime Minister, David Ben Gurion, who had to make a special ruling for them. Markus was finally buried in the same row as his fallen friends. But so that ‘his bones should not be mingled with theirs’, as Meshulam Schlesinger, Director of the Military Cemetery, put it, his grave was set somewhat apart.

    ‘Meshulam Schlesinger officially stated that the corpse of Yaakov Markus had been circumcised after his death, to allow it to lie beside the Jewish fighters. This was later denied no less officially by the Ministry of Defense. But the grisly and macabre atmosphere surrounding the case has done much to deepen public concern.’

  20. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:33 pm | Permalink

    THE ‘INCORRECT’ SIX
    Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prizewinner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, in a speech in Washington in 1975 had this to say of the Soviet system which was deemed worthy of recognition as one of ‘our’ Allies fighting ‘for Democracy’ against the ‘Dictators’ in WW2:

    “This was a system which, in time of peace, artificially created a famine causing SIX MILLION PERSONS to die in the Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. They died on the very threshold of Europe. And Europe didn’t even notice it. The world didn’t even notice it. SIX MILLION PERSONS!”

    (Alexander Solzhenitsyn Speaks to the West (1978) p 16)

    Who were these people, and why was and is their fate unknown to the ordinary man in the street in western countries?

    Franklin Roosevelt’s ally and associate Joseph Stalin was the supreme dictator of Russia for almost a quarter of a century, from 1929 until his death in 1953. Born as Iosif Djugashvili, he adopted the very indicative name ‘Stalin’, ‘man of steel’. He lived up to this name in every respect. Soviet Russia under Stalin was a despotic police state that relied on espionage and terror, with a profound gulf in manner of living between the rulers and the ruled.

    Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan (1928-1932) sought to bring about the ‘collectivization of agriculture’ in accordance with the ‘abolition of property in land’ put forward in Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto. But back in 1861 Czar Alexander II had liberated 23 million serfs, four years before slavery was abolished in the United States. In the period before the Revolution, millions of these peasants had been enabled to get title to their own individual plots, boosting Russian agricultural productivity. These independent peasant farmers became known as kulaks. When Communism was imposed on Russia, the kulaks as private property owners now stood in the way of the idea of Communism. In 1929 Stalin called for ‘the liquidation of the kulaks’, and their small family farms, animals, implements and crops were declared to belong to the state. “(The Jews) Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev had always argued that the peasant would never surrender enough food voluntarily, and must be coerced and, if need be, crushed” (*Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p 268). The Red Army and the GPU secret police were used to implement the policy. All peasants who resisted were treated with violence. A very large number were killed or sent in cattle or freight trains to exile in remote areas in the frozen north or the desert steppes. Rather than give up their animals to the collective farms, many peasants killed and ate them. As a result, the number of farm animals in the Soviet Union was catastrophically reduced:

    1928
    1933

    Cattle
    30,7 million
    19,6 million

    Sheep and goats
    146,7 million
    50,2 million

    Hogs
    26 million
    12,1 million

    Horses
    33,5 million
    16,6 million

    (*Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, p 398).

    The peasants stopped farming on ground that suddenly, officially, no longer belonged to them. As a result, food production decreased drastically. After a while, the cities started running out of food. Orders were given for grain to be confiscated from the peasants, whether they had sufficient for themselves and their families or not. Those caught trying to reserve food for their families were ‘severely dealt with’. By the winter of 1932-3, virtually no food was left in the countryside. By early March 1933, ‘death on a mass scale really began’ (Robert Conquest, The Harvest of Sorrow (1986) p243). The main farming areas of Russia, in the regions of the Ukraine and North Caucasus, were utterly devastated. Millions of people were forced to eat anything that was available, mice, rats, birds, grass, nettles, bark and even cats and dogs, but even then did not survive. It was a time of great and terrible hunger, a catastrophic man-made famine.

    The American journalist Eugene Lyons was sent to Russia in 1928 as chief correspondent for the United Press agency. Arriving as an enthusiastic communist, he was able to experience the Soviet experiment at first hand. He became extremely disillusioned. He described the famine in his book Assignment in Utopia (published in 1937) in the following terms:

    “Hell broke loose in seventy thousand Russian villages.. A population as large as all of Switzerland’s or Denmark’s was stripped clean of all their belongings.. They were herded with bayonets at railroad stations, packed indiscriminately into cattle cars and freight cars and dumped weeks later in the lumber regions of the frozen North, the deserts of central Asia, wherever labor was needed, there to live or die..”. The number of people that died is unknown, but the famine alone is estimated conservatively to have been responsible for 6 million deaths, almost half of them children (*Conquest, p 303-4). Other millions died from the killings and sickness as a result of the deportations (*p 304-7). At the famous Yalta conference in 1945, Winston Churchill was able to question his friend and fellow ally Stalin about the process. Stalin said ‘ten million’ had been ‘dealt with’, but that it had been ‘absolutely necessary’. Churchill records that he ‘sustained the strong impression of millions of men and women being blotted out or displaced forever’ (*Churchill, The Second World War, vol. IV p448). However Churchill – thank God for Winston Churchill – had no further comment to make on the matter. Controlling the agenda is always so important!

    Lyons, himself Jewish, credits the Jewish commissar Lazar Kaganovich with the major portion of responsibility for this major crime against humanity:

    “Lazar Kaganovich… it was his mind that invented the Political Departments to lead collectivized agriculture, his iron hand that applied Bolshevik mercilessness.” (*Lyons, p 578). The Encyclopaedia Britannica says tersely, “(Kaganovich) was one of the small group of Stalin’s top advisors pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929.. Within the Politburo, Kaganovich and Molotov led the opposition to Kirov’s proposed concessions to the peasantry and to his attempts to relax the harshness of Stalin’s control.. (Kaganovich) opposed Krushchev’s de-Stalinization..”. Kaganovich died at the ripe old age of 98 in 1991 (Encl. Brit.), ethnically safe from pursuit by the Israeli secret service, the Simon Wiesenthal organization, the New York media-intelligentsia or other hunters of real or imagined war criminals or human rights violators.

    The suffering caused by the great man-made famine was covered by some reports in newspapers in Britain, Europe and the United States. Books dating from before World War Two can still be found in second-hand bookshops which describe the ferocity… Arthur Koestler, Soviet Myth and Reality in The Yogi and the Commissar (1945) Muggeridge, Lyons, Chamberlin… Yet this episode has been completely, entirely, totally ignored by our guardians of history, morality and political correctness…

    NO MEMORIAL EXISTS IN WASHINGTON DC

    (obviously) to record the indescribable scale of human suffering which resulted, undoubtedly because such a high burden of responsibility for it lies with the Jew Kaganovitch, and because the victims were not Jewish. No chance exists for such a monument, according to a private consensus, owing to certain political realities.

    This six million is the ‘incorrect’ six million, because their inconvenient story is not and has not been useful to today’s elite. The tribal affiliations of the chief perpetrator (Jew) and the victims (non-Jews) are the wrong ones, not fitting into the ‘correct’ pattern.

    According to Solzhenitsyn in the eighty years that preceded the Revolution in Russia, – years of revolutionary activity, uprisings and the assassination of a Czar, an average of ten persons a year were executed. After the Revolution, in 1918 and 1919, according to the figures of the Cheka, the secret police itself – more than a thousand persons were executed per month without trial. In 1937-8, at the height of Stalin’s terror, more than 40 000 persons were executed per month. (*Solzhenitsyn p17).

    Millions of persons were executed or sent to labour camps. In his magnum opus The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn credits Naftaly Frenkel, a ‘Turkish-born Jew’, with being works chief / chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal, built entirely with slave labour (paperback edition, vol 2 p 72). Solzhenitsyn quotes the official Soviet history of the project which describes Frenkel as having ‘..the eyes of an interrogator and prosecutor.. A man with enormous love of power and pride, for whom the main thing is unlimited power. If it is necessary for him to be feared, then let him be feared. He spoke harshly to the engineers, attempting to humiliate them.’ (ibid p 75). Other Jews were also involved in influential positions. Yakov Rappoport was deputy chief of construction (p 78) and Matvei Berman was the Chief of Gulag (p 79). Frenkel, Berman and Rappoport are amongst six men described by Solzhenitsyn as ‘hired murderers’, ‘each of whom accounted for thirty thousand lives’ (p 91). Is Solzhenitsyn alone in his accusations? Why are these names generally unknown to ordinary citizens in the West?

    “The major role Jewish leaders played in the November (Russian) revolution was probably more important than any other factor in confirming (Hitler’s) anti-Semitic beliefs.” (J&S Pool, Who Financed Hitler, p.164).

    “There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1.. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists.. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.” (Sarah Gordon Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’ Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).

    “The second paroxysm of strong anti-Semitism came after the critical role of Jews in International Communism and the Russian Revolution and during the economic crises of the 1920s and 30s… Anti-Semitism intensified throughout Europe and North America following the perceived and actual centrality of Jews in the Russian Revolution.. Such feelings were not restricted to Germany, or to vulgar extremists like the Nazis. All over Northern Europe and North America, anti-Semitism became the norm in ‘nice society’, and ‘nice society’ included the universities.” (Bernal, Black Athena vol. 1 pp. 367, 387).

    “To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews and included Litvinov (real name Wallach), Liadov (Mandelshtam), Shklovsky, Saltz, Gusev (Drabkin), Zemliachka (Salkind), Helena Rozmirovich, Serafima Gopner, Yaroslavsky (Gubelman), Yaklovlev (Epstein), Riaznov (Goldendach), Uritsky and Larin. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews.”

    When Lenin died in 1924, Zinoviev – the first chairman of the Communist International – formed a triumvirate with Kamenev and Stalin to govern Russia. This ‘Troika’ as it was known was formed to keep Trotsky from the succession. Stalin was the only one of the three members of the Troika who was not Jewish. “Though Zinoviev and Kamenev feared Trotsky as too militant and extreme, they shared his belief in permanent revolution, which Stalin did not. Russia had been in almost continuous turmoil for twenty years and had suffered revolutions and counter-revolutions, war, invasions and a pitiless and drawn-out civil war. There were limits to which the endurance of a people could be stretched. The Russians wanted to bury their dead and resume what they could of normal life. Stalin understood this. Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev (the three Jews) did not.”

    “Jews had a prominent role in Communist parties elsewhere..” (Chaim Bermant, The Jews (1977)).

    THE ‘CORRECT’ SIX MILLION

    What about the ‘Actual’ Holocaust?

    Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York says:

    ‘ “The Holocaust” is an ideological representation of the Nazi holocaust. Like most ideologies, it bears a connection, if tenuous, with reality. The Holocaust is not an arbitrary, but rather an internally coherent construct. Its central dogmas sustain significant political and class interests. Indeed, The Holocaust has proven to be an indispensable ideological weapon. Through its deployment, one of the world’s most formidable military powers, with a horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a ‘victim’ state, and the most successful ethnic group in the United States has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable benefits accrue to this specious victimhood – in particular, immunity to criticism, however justified. ” (Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry (2000) published by Verso, p 3).

    On page 83 he notes that ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ This means, in plain English, that there is no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors.

    Some further quotes:

    “In an authoritative study, Leonard Dinnerstein reported: Sixty thousand Jews.. walked out of the concentration camps. Within a week more than 20,000 of them had died.”. But ‘As it entered into negotiations with Germany [just two years ago, in 1999], the Holocaust industry demanded compensation for 135,000 still living former (camp inmates).’ (pp125-6)

    On page 127 he further notes ‘If 135,000 former Jewish slave laborers are still alive today, some 600,000 must have survived the war. That’s at least a half-million more than standard estimates.. If Jews only constituted 20% of the surviving camp population and, as the Holocaust industry implies, 600,000 Jewish inmates survived the war, then fully 3 million inmates in total must have survived. By the Holocaust industry’s reckoning, concentration camp conditions couldn’t have been that harsh at all; in fact, one must suppose a remarkably high fertility and remarkably low mortality rate.. If, as the Holocaust industry suggests, many hundreds of thousands of Jews survived, the Final Solution couldn’t have been so efficient after all – exactly what Holocaust deniers argue. (pp127-8). ’

    ‘Both my father and my mother were survivors of the Warsaw ghetto and the Nazi concentration camps.. One of my father’s lifelong friends was a former inmate with him in Auschwitz, a seemingly incorruptible left-wing idealist who on principle refused German compensation after the war. Eventually he became a director of the Israeli Holocaust museum, Yad Vashem. Reluctantly and with genuine disappointment, my father finally admitted that even this man had been corrupted by the Holocaust industry, tailoring his beliefs for power and profit. As the rendering of the Holocaust assumed ever more absurd forms, my mother liked to quote (with intentional irony) Henry Ford: “History is bunk.” (ibid. p7).

    ‘The Holocaust proved to be the perfect weapon for deflecting criticism of Israel’ (ibid p30).

    ‘Much of the literature on Hitler’s Final Solution is worthless as scholarship. Indeed, the field of Holocaust studies is replete with nonsense, if not sheer fraud.’ (p 55).

    ‘Given the nonsense that is turned out daily by the Holocaust industry, the wonder is that there are so few skeptics’. (p 68).

    ‘Annual Days of Remembrance of the Holocaust are a national event. All 50 states sponsor commemorations, often in state legislative chambers.. Seven major Holocaust museums dot the American landscape. The centerpiece of this memorialization is the United States Holocaust museum in Washington.. (This) museum’s annual budget is $50 million, of which $30 million is federally subsidized.’ (p72). (This is in spite of the fact that, as he points out on page 32, per capita Jewish income in the US is almost double that of non-Jews). ‘With a reelection campaign looming, Jimmy Carter initiated the (US Holocaust Museum) project to placate Jewish contributors and voters, galled by the president’s recognition of the “legitimate rights” of Palestinians.’ (p 73).

    And:

    ‘The Holocaust may yet turn out to be the “greatest robbery in the history of mankind”.. The Holocaust industry has clearly gone berserk.’(p 138-9).

  21. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Zionist trial runs of “6 Million” Holocaust propaganda in 1911 – and 1919

    Max Nordau (1849-1923) was the co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodor Herzl.

    Have a look at this Max Nordau quote from Ben Hecht’s book ‘Perfidy’ – which is available for free in PDF format at
    http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf (on page 232 of 261):

    Quote:
    In the Zionist Congress of 1911, 22 years before Hitler came to power, and three years before World War I, Nordau said, “How dare the smooth talkers, the clever official blabbers, open their mouths and boast of progress. . . . Here they hold jubilant peace conferences in which they talk against war. . . . But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people, and there is nobody, except the doomed themselves, to raise his voice in protest although this is a worse crime than any war . . .” unquote.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    And take a look at the article from The American Hebrew, October 31 1919

    (see attached reproduction below), prophesying a ‘holocaust’ of ‘six million’:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_H._Glynn

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/images/091031crucifixion.gif

    The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!
    By Martin H. Glynn
    (Former Governor of the State of N.Y.)

    From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.

    These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter’s cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

    In the face of death, in the throes of starvation there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.

    Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.

    In this threatened holocaust of human life, forgotten are the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of historical interpretation; and the determination to help the helpless, to shelter the homeless, to clothe the naked and to feed the hungry… etc etc etc

  22. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Dirty Little Secrets – the hidden, awkward origins of World War 2 – the unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events

    Just consider the following:

    · Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying “Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war”. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).

    · Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says “Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.” (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.)

    · Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, “the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.” (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).

    · Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).

    Etc etc etc etc – more detail at http://www.rense.com/general92/dirty.htm

  23. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

    The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: “Passionate, tormenting”. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering “You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten (sic) speak.”

    Lengyel says

    ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

    This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months).

    Could this claim be a misprint?

    Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:

    ‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz – paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

    According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

    Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:

    In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states

    ‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26).

    If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the truly awe-inspiring claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.

    A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, found no evidence of mass graves there. For six days in October 1999, an Australian team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination of the soil at the site of the former Treblinka II camp in Poland, where, Holocaust historians say, more than half a million Jews were put to death in gas chambers and then buried in mass graves. According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1997), for example, “a total of 870,000 people” were killed and buried at Treblinka between July 1942 and April 1943. Then, between April and July 1943, the hundreds of thousands of corpses were allegedly dug up and burned in batches of 2,000 or 2,500 on large grids made of railway ties.

    Krege’s team used an $80,000 Ground Penetration Radar (GPR) device, which sends out vertical radar signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR detects any large-scale disturbances in the soil structure to a normal effective depth of four or five meters, and sometimes up to ten meters. (GPR devices are routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists, and police.) In its Treblinka investigation, Krege’s team also carried out visual soil inspections, and used an auger to take numerous soil core samples.

    The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes.

    “From these scans we could clearly identify the largely undisturbed horizontal stratigraphic layering, better known as horizons, of the soil under the camp site,” says the 30-year old Krege, who lives in Canberra. “We know from scans of grave sites, and other sites with known soil disturbances, such as quarries, when this natural layering is massively disrupted or missing altogether.” Because normal geological processes are very slow acting, disruption of the soil structure would have been detectable even after 60 years, Krege noted.

    While his initial investigation suggests that there were never any mass graves at the Treblinka camp site, Krege believes that further work is still called for.

    “Historians say that the bodies were exhumed and cremated toward the end of the Treblinka camp’s use in 1943, but we found no indication that any mass graves ever existed,” he says. “Personally, I don’t think there was a mass extermination camp there at all.”

    Krege prepared a detailed report on his Treblinka investigation. He says that he would welcome the formation, possibly under United Nations auspices, of an international team of neutral, qualified specialists, to carry out similar investigations at the sites of all the wartime German camps.

    ________________________________________________

    Are hidden tribal agendas a factor in American politics?

    Have a look around you. Study the subject of ‘Palestine’ and answer that one yourself. Study the ownerships and editorial policies of the major news media. Watch Congress and study the issues of campaign financing and lobbying.

    The US is a zionist-dominated lobbiocracy, not a democracy.

  24. George's Gravatar George
    December 3, 2011 - 12:41 pm | Permalink

    It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors :

    Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:
    ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ (page 83)

    I’ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War and the statement is quite correct – not a single mention of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

    Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill’s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.

    In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

    CODOH – Committee for Open Debate of the Holocaust – breaking the power of taboo

    http://www.codoh.com/

  25. December 3, 2011 - 1:41 pm | Permalink

    @Si:
    I personally:
    1) had a family member marry a Jew; and
    2) know other gentiles that have married Jews; and
    3) know Jews that have married gentiles.

    In all 3 cases, there was less reaction from the gentile families than the Jewish ones. These marriages often come at a great cost to the Jew involved. In one case, the Jew took so much crap from the females (the mother, aunts and particularly sisters) that after his mother died he stated on many occasions that he had no sisters. In another case, the gentile female complained that the grandparents openly visited less with her children than those of her Jewish brother-in-law, even though she offered to take the children to their home.

    As for your reference to the Scots and English, it is really not applicable. On top of Clan origins, some mixed French – Fraser, others mixed Nordic – Rollo, there were Clan alliances. While visiting Scotland in the early 70s, there was a story about an innkeeper named MacDonald, who refused a room to a Campbell, because of ancient treachery at Glencoe and Culloden. Still other Clans like the Rutherfords are from the borders area where possession changed, between England and Scotland, many times.

    I do agree, however, with your statement that the Muslim Brotherhood are fine rulers for Egypt, or any other country in the middle east for that matter – just not here. The same goes for any of the other semitic tribes.

  26. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: You didn’t actually respond to the substance of my comment, which was that MacDonald is selectively bringing attention to distasteful aspects of Judaism while ignoring those that refute his preconceptions. My case in point was that the conservative synagogue of America, of which my parents are a member (I am not a believer) just approved intermarriage wholesale. This is an example of Jewish organizations moving away from an emphasis on “racial purity” and it was not mentioned on this website. Comments?

  27. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

    I would also ask Kevin, and every other poster on here, to think honestly of whether it really matters to them that some Jews are averse to intermarriage. If they didn’t (and as a Jew I wish they wouldn’t) it is patently obvious to me that Kevin still wouldn’t look fondly on “whites” intermarrying with recent immigrants or African Americans. He has ascribed to the obviously incoherent notion of ethnic genetic interests (see Razib Khan, Kenan Malik for a clear walkthrough http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/003895.html). That, or he thinks that immigrants have low IQ with high heritability (a dubious proposition on its own) or are otherwise phenotypically programmed to destroy democratic institutions. If the answer is no, I still wouldn’t look fondly on intermarriage, then you ought to realize your guilty of the same moral behavior of the Jews you consistently chew out. If the answer is yes, I would stop caring about “whites” intermarrying if some Jews stopped their racial thinking, then why do you prattle on so much about immigrants on this board in the first place? I don’t expect a reply from you stormtroopers.

  28. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: What is dubious about the high heritability of IQ? And Razib had a technical disagreement on one issue of Salter’s book, but if you notice, while he is obviously not a White Advocate, he posts quite a bit of material on the differences among the races and ethnic groups, which appear to be driven by genetics.

  29. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    December 3, 2011 - 5:23 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:

    You didn’t actually respond to the substance of my comment, which was that MacDonald is selectively bringing attention to distasteful aspects of Judaism while ignoring those that refute his preconceptions. My case in point was that the conservative synagogue of America, of which my parents are a member (I am not a believer) just approved intermarriage wholesale. This is an example of Jewish organizations moving away from an emphasis on “racial purity” and it was not mentioned on this website. Comments?

    This website is devoted to White identity, interests, and culture; that’s what it says at the top of the page.

    And, according to many people who love White people and want to protect them, Jewish people have a bad record when it comes to promoting ideas and policies that are harmful to Whites.

    So naturally Dr. MacDonald is going to focus on that sort of stuff, instead of stuff that frames Jews in a positive light. If people want positive articles about Jewish people, then there are other places on the internet where those can be found.

    Honestly, I’ve never had bad feelings toward Jews. I don’t want to dislike them or any other group. But it seems that a lot of powerful Jews do not like us.

    You mention that your synagogue recently approved intermarriage. That does not impress me; for starters, that isn’t going to change Jews’ natural aversion to interracial marriage. Also, I respected the fact that Jews openly oppose interracial marriage for their own race. It’s natural and healthy for cultural leaders to want to preserve their own race. Whites just want the same for themselves without being demonized as “racists” or “nazis”.

    (I have to admit: I’m not the greatest spokesman for this website or its values, etc. I’m not well-read and I’m relatively new here. But I thought I’d try to answer your questions to the best of my ability.)

  30. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Estimates range from 0.4 to 0.9 for IQ, and the direction of causality between the IQ of society and “democratic” institutions is even shakier. But thats besides the point. You didn’t respond to the main thrust of my comment. Reread it if you’d like to.

  31. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 3, 2011 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: Matthew, this means that your descendants might not be Jews anymore. However, this will mean that the future of Jewry lies with the extremists – just as it has in the past. Dr. MacDonald has described the dynamic in detail – those who are not committed to Judaism, eventually lose out, because they eventually leave Judaism, and also because their fertility rates are far short of reproduction, so eventually it will only be extremists left. Haredi, Hasidic, and Orthodox Judaism is the future, Conservative Judaism is the irrelevant present. (Conservative Jews are still lobbying for their Orthodox brethren in Israel, though, so they are still useful to the Jewish community.)

    The double standard discussed here is that we Whites are not allowed to talk about that, whereas Jews are. You are not commenting on a Jewish website incensed by the racialism still commonplace in Orthodox and Haredim circles, but instead you chose to comment on a white racialist website. We are totally powerless, 99.9% of whites do not hear what we say, so we might think we’re totally irrelevant for you. Whereas the Orthodox Jews still have strict rules, and Conservative Jews are also heavily discouraging intermarriage, although now advising against total excommunication in such cases:

    While the Conservative Judaism discourages intermarriage, its understanding and approach to intermarriage is more open than that of Orthodox Judaism. According to the Conservative Movement’s Joint Commission on Response to Intermarriage: “In the past, intermarriage…was viewed as an act of rebellion, a rejection of Judaism. Jews who intermarried were essentially excommunicated. But now, intermarriage is often the result of living in an open society….If our children end up marrying non-Jews, we should not reject them. We should continue to give our love and by that retain a measure of influence in their lives, Jewishly and otherwise. Life consists of constant growth and our adult children may yet reach a stage when Judaism has new meaning for them. However, the marriage between a Jew and non-Jew is not a celebration for the Jewish community. We therefore reach out to the couple with the hope that the non-Jewish partner will move closer to Judaism and ultimately choose to convert. Since we know that over 70 percent of children of intermarried couples are not being raised as Jews…we want to encourage the Jewish partner to maintain his/her Jewish identity, and raise their children as Jews.”

    That is obviously not as strict as Orthodox or Hasidic opinion, but it is hardly liberalism. Are you going to Hasidic websites, accusing them of antigentilism, and denouncing them as racists and Nazis?

    Of course not. You are still useful to them: before you and your descendants will leave Judaism, you will do a great deal of service to them.

  32. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 3, 2011 - 5:56 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: We are not criticizing Jews for not intermarrying or being ethnocentric. We are criticizing them for

    - not intermarrying and being ethnocentric and at the same time pretending to be just like anybody else (e.g. normal Americans, Frenchmen, Hungarians, etc.)

    - not intermarrying and being ethnocentric and at the same time pathologizing the exact same behavior in whites

    We are simply pointing out the double standards that we are being subjected to.

  33. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 3, 2011 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: IQ has a high heritability within ethnic groups, which is mainstream. What’s not mainstream is that whether the differences between ethnic groups are heritable or not. However, slowly even that is becoming mainstream. I propose that you google Michael Levin (he’s your fellow tribesman so you might believe him more than me) and why race matters, you might read interesting things there.

  34. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 6:13 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    Unlike you and KMD, I am unable to look into my crystal ball and see what the future demographic trends of Judaism will hold. I see conservative Jews approving intermarriage and my cousins and friends marrying outside the faith and raising their kids Jewish. What Jewish identity will look like in the future is up in the air as far as I can tell.

    Also, you are certainly not criticizing “Jews” for the things you listed. Rather, you are rather listing some Jews’ stances on issues such as intermarriage and basing your perception of the group based on those instances. You don’t know me, my Jewish friends, or my Jewish family. Stop stereotyping.

    I AM a normal American, and I think its racist for people like you and other Jews to tell their children and peers that they can only marry people of the same race or religion. I’d be happy to go on a Haredim website (if they even exist) to say such as thing.

    As for the rest, all I see coming from you is a whining politics of resentment. “Some Jews preach racial advocacy, so why can’t I” is a pathetic sentiment. Nevermind the fact that “white” identity is a construct established in the face of a perceived threat of immigration and which has never existed as a unified entity in the past. I wonder what the ethnic germans who called the Irish “Irish-N*****” would say from their grave.

  35. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 6:19 pm | Permalink

    And BTW. I hope my children will not be Jews but rather citizens of the world when you grow up. That is, of course, dependent on whether you and the rest of the Einsatzcomandos on this website get to them first. On that note, Its incredibly naive to think that Jews wouldn’t have a defensive posture when commenters here and places like storm front still think we should all bake in the oven. I didn’t request my parents.

  36. Dirk's Gravatar Dirk
    December 3, 2011 - 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Read the priceless blog on Taki’s Mag on Bibi and his come-home campaign: http://takimag.com/article/a_boob_named_bibi#axzz1fW65YqMi

  37. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 3, 2011 - 7:07 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:

    “Some Jews preach racial advocacy, so why can’t I” is a pathetic sentiment.

    No, it’s called a desire for equality. We resent Jews being more equal than us.

    And BTW. I hope my children will not be Jews but rather citizens of the world when you grow up.

    That’s what I was talking about. Jews marrying out have a very high chance of their children not being Jewish, because, uhm, their identities are weaker. Also you will most likely have one, two, or at most three children. The Haredim are having five or six. (Or even more. And that’s the average.) Who will be the majority? That’s not a crystal ball, that’s a trend. You have fewer children, many of whom won’t even be Jewish. (Even if they will be, the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox might have problems accepting them as such. And that will matter a great deal, because by then they will be the majority, because of the trends I mentioned above.)

    “white” identity is a construct

    The identity might be, but the white race is not a construct but a biological reality.

  38. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 7:16 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: Estimates range from 0.4 to 0.9 for IQ, and the direction of causality between the IQ of society and “democratic” institutions is even shakier.

    I’m not sure what that sentence means. 0.4 to 0.9 is extremely high for heritability. The twin studies suggest that IQ is almost 80% genetic.

    As far caring about whether Jews intermarry or not, as others have pointed out, I think what we are pointing out is the hypocrisy and the double standard. MacDonald has expressed admiration for the way Jews have maintained ethnic cohesion for such a long time, so that isn’t the issue. It’s the fact Jews work actively to keep Whites from doing the same, and unleash unholy hell on any White person trying to do anything remotely similar to what Jewish leaders recommend to their own people, routinely.

  39. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 3, 2011 - 7:17 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:

    I’d be happy to go on a Haredim website (if they even exist) to say such as thing.

    I’m not sure if there’s commenting there, but here’s a website. I find it interesting that you didn’t choose to find an extremist Jewish website, which must affect you way more than this minuscule group of white nationalists, who are a statistically insignificant part of the American populace. (Just for your information, many of the commenters here are not even Americans. I am one example of such people.) Somehow you found the non-Jews who merely want the same rights that extremist Jews already have, but you didn’t even bother looking to the extremist Jews themselves.

  40. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    December 3, 2011 - 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Dear Richard, Jason Speaks, and the Equestrian Admiral:

    May I fraternally advise hesitancy in engaging “matthew” on the grounds of his choosing, grounds that are themselves bigoted and biased to an extraordinary degree. Nowadays one would need the patience of Job and the perseverance of Diogenes to locate a practitioner of either a soft or hard science with the wits or the intellectual unpresumptuousness to admit that his own discipline (let alone science generally) is not omnicompetent—that is, neither has all the answers nor possesses any position in the hierarchy of knowledge beneath the very top spot.

    For example, several of matthew’s first premises are dubious in the extreme. First and foremost, to accept his claim that Judaism is a bona fide religion is to cede precious ground without even a struggle. His chosen subdivision, Conservative Judaism, is nothing other than an attempt to stake a middle ground between the Orthodox, whose smelly and ugly but expensive clothing and whose scraggly beards and spit curls make doing business in the larger goyische society unnecessarily difficult, and the Reform Jews, who are so embarrassed at the mere mention of the word God (even a god who is a mask for themselves) that they have happily redefined themselves in terms of penile mutilation, material wealth, and, of course, the Holocaust®.

    Nor should you or anyone else be overly impressed by his reference to the self-satisfied ramblings of a Muslim H1B type whose principal claim to distinctiveness is his enjoyment of hot Mexican peppers. Has anyone even examined the bases for the validity, in what used to be called the larger world of knowledge, of the pretentious claims of Khan and matthew?

    Back in the missed-by-few David Longley days, I urged caution in accepting any claims founded upon the DSM and the immoral, indeed antihuman, falsity of behaviorism. I urge the same caution now.

  41. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 7:23 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: Perhaps a more interesting psychological questions is this: Why do you hold so much animus toward a few people discussing White interests? What threatens you about it? Our numbers and funding are tiny compared to La Raza, the ADL, or the NAACP. Those are organizations that explicitly promote the ethnic interests of specific groups, yet you are saving all your fire for a small number of White folks trying to save their society. Why? If what we stand for is such an affront to you, then if it is a principled position, you must be picketing in front of La Raza, Lulac, and AIPAC almost 24/7.

  42. thm's Gravatar thm
    December 3, 2011 - 7:29 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:

    Nevermind the fact that “white” identity is a construct established in the face of a perceived threat of immigration and which has never existed as a unified entity in the past.

    Let’s see, the Palestinians don’t exist (they are really Jordanians) so they have no right to their ancestral home. And Christian European ethnic people don’t exist, so they have no right to their values, culture, societies, religion, or to look out for their collective interests. But Hispanics, Blacks, Jews etc. DO exist so they do have a right to ethnic cohesion and identity. Right, Matthew?

    Matthew, to me you have your own kind of ethnic hatred. And your implication that any Christian European ethnic people who identify with their ethnic group and seek to look out for collective interests are Nazis is straight out bigotry to me. And for the record I am ethnically Jewish. And I have a lot of respect for Dr. Kevin MacDonald, and have extensively read his books and articles.

  43. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    December 3, 2011 - 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Wow, looks like Matthew blew his cork and like many Leftist Jews resorted to the most vile insults that is so common among his ilk when confronted by people who question Jewish behavior at large over the last 60 years.

    But on the bright side, he does show us the level of hatred that exists among Jews towards Whites who are proud of their race and civilization. It’s amusing you never see Jews blow their stack over racial pride movements by Mexicans, Blacks and others. That’s ok, but when the despised White Goyim start copying say La Raza, then we become Nazi death squad troopers in the eyes of the Tribe.

  44. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 3, 2011 - 7:43 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Good advice from Pierre. We should avoid letting these random pests get us all wound up. They have malicious agendas and are not educable on the matters at hand – their intractability, the mental denseness they flaunt, is the only weapon in their arsenal.

    Might as well argue with a brick wall.

  45. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    December 3, 2011 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    I appreciate your advice and thoughts, Mr. de Craon.

  46. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 9:15 pm | Permalink

    I do not approve of La Raza and NAACP, so I don’t know why you attribute that stance to me. I wish everyone would stop being so damn tribal.

  47. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    December 3, 2011 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Apropos nothing at all, I am still catching up with additions to several recent threads, but I wanted to tell you how much I admire and second one of your comments on the Dada part 2 thread, the one where you pulled the veil off Connor Dirk. “He’s not here to debate or engage, but rather to disrupt and I would say slander” (you omitted just one other critical object of his: to seduce). By then refusing to be baited by the nasty reply you got, you reinforced the weight of your observation. Very well done indeed.

    Matthew plays a variant of the same game, save that seduction is beyond his powers. The more that we take our cue from KM, who put matthew neatly but politely in his place, the greater the chance that this site might accomplish something worthwhile.

  48. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Where did KM put me in my place? By the way, excuse me for thinking that a site administered by someone who considers an individual who mowed down seventy innocent children to be a “sophisticated political thinker” is wholey unlike the, albeit reprehensible, La Raza and NAACP.

  49. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 3, 2011 - 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Pierre you have not responded to the substance of any of my posts with anything other than idiotic chest thumping. Goodnight.

  50. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    December 3, 2011 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: Wrong! I didn’t respond to you at all. You wrote nothing worthy of response.

  51. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    December 3, 2011 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Non-Jew spouses who never converted to Judaism aren’t permitted to be brought to a kosher cemetery for burial next to their Judaic half.
    Several years back a huge shytstorm broke out in Israel when Pals had killed an Israeli soldier on patrol in the ‘territories’, and yet the local religious authorities flatly refused to allow that he be laid to rest next to his Judaic father.
    Merely on account of his Slavic mother failing the kosher test.
    After much back-n-forth, accusations of racism, outraged Israeli leftists proposing to re-open an abandoned kibbutz cemetery to alleviate mother’s anguish – neither side proved willing to budge. BTW, as a ‘compromise’ the good rabbis did propose to select a spot for burial on the other side of the kosher cemetery’s fence.
    Struggling to control her revulsion, the Slavic mother eventually collected her son’s casket from the freezer, booked one-way ticket to Russia, and was never seen again.

  52. December 4, 2011 - 8:09 am | Permalink

    As several other commentators have noted, if various Jewish groups and organizations have sought to eliminate or highly reduce Jewish intermarriage, it seems to have been a singularly ineffective policy so far.

    From the Gentile side, this problem is due to the prevalent misconception that Jews are just white people who aren’t Christian. Whites who marry Jews just think that they are marrying members of their own race who happen to practice (or to have been born into) another religion.

    The white race needs to realize that Jews are just light-skinned Arabs; Jews are not descended from the people of Europe. They are a Semitic, Middle Eastern tribe who have gained a considerable percentage of white physical trait due to intermarriage.

    Jews are not white people! Just look at their faces on http://www.jdate.com and this fact becomes obvious.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinhardVonSiegfried

  53. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 4, 2011 - 9:08 am | Permalink

    America is a Jewish occupied nation.

    On December 2, 2011, Al-Akhbar English published a research piece by American Jewish author, writer and blogger, Max Blumenthal. In the article, entitled ‘From Occupation to Occupy: Israelification of American Domestic Security’ – Max claims that the high-handed tactics used by American security forces against the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement and American Muslims, were taught to them by Israel Occupation Force (IOF) officers……

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/ows-and-israelification-of-american-domestic-security/

  54. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    December 4, 2011 - 9:29 am | Permalink

    @matthew: Segueing the Admiral’s comment on Michael Levin, here’s a preview of Why Race Matters
    http://goo.gl/9UkAs

  55. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 4, 2011 - 2:16 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Thank you for your wise advice. The problem with Jews is their greed. Greed for money, power, influence, and air time. They simply take up too much air. We need not give it to them here. There is nothing to be gained by this. They are not interested in a genuine exchange of ideas. It is a waste of very valuable time and effort.

  56. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    December 4, 2011 - 2:39 pm | Permalink

    This is long, so I will break it up in three sections.

    K-Mac is overlooking something more fundamental here where Netanyahu’s squabble with American Jewry is concerned. Because he is a Gentile, he is looking from the outside in and what is escaping him is the fact that having race and religion in common is no more a unifying factor to the Jews than being Catholic and Caucasian was to the kings of Europe. If you look at Sarkozy’s remarks through a similar context rather than through the lens of Jewish NWO paranoia, Nick’s dislike of BiBi suddenly makes sense.

    Where does BiBi’s animus towards American Jewry come from? It’s just a power play, it’s nothing personal. To all outward appearances, it looks like American Jews are at that point where they have to decide whether they are Americans or Jews first. And Netanyahu is trying to frame the argument that way, because it suits his own purposes to do so.

    That is not true and the American Jews know it. American Jewish interests don’t necessarily have to coincide with American Gentile interests. They actually do more than Jews want to admit, but they are too blinded by Anti-Gentilism to see that. In any case, American Jewish interests don’t have to coincide with Israeli Jewish interests either. After all, as he was exiting Jonathan Pollard’s prison cell, it was Netanyahu himself who allegedly told Pollard that, “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”

    He’s the leader of a weak country who is trying to dominate Jews through propaganda that only Israelis can be considered real Jews. The rest of them in the Diaspora are on sufferance as being Jews at the pleasure of Israel. There is the implied intimidation of Diaspora Jews not being allowed into Israel should things get too hot on their own turf.

    There is no such thing as a real Jewish race. If any race of people are a social and/or political construct it is the Jews. Their history suggests an ongoing racial eugenics project. When the numbers are too small for comfort and the bloodline is too inbred or anemic, leading to all kinds of genetic disorders like Tay-Sachs disease, they go through intense spurts of proselytism and take in converts and then they put a screeching halt to it until the new blood gets assimilated to the Jewish way of doing things.

  57. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 4, 2011 - 2:42 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Do you realize how stupid you sound?

  58. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    December 4, 2011 - 2:43 pm | Permalink

    So, like all other things in life, it is a matter of six of one and half a dozen of the other where good news-bad news is concerned with this “family squabble.” All the formerly Gentile-controlled countries have experienced nothing but problems from Jews who have been raised to believe that they are the Chosen of God, the most brilliant men on earth and the next Jewish messiah by their doting Mommies. Keep this in mind.

    The reason why ten out of the twelve tribes of Israel are lost has a lot to do with none of the tribes willing to take second place to the dominant tribe of Judah. So, this made it possible for the Assyrians to peel them off and disperse them. Pax Romanica was imposed on Judea by Jewish invitation, because none of them would submit to the authority of one Jew; they all wanted to be the leader. The destruction of Jerusalem was largely because three zealot factions inside the city walls were fighting it out to the death for dominance while the Romans encircled the city.

    So, first the bad news. Jews have assumed positions of leadership all over the Western World. Now the good news. Jews have have assumed positions of leadership all over the Western World. So, you have all these Jews controlling all these Gentile countries. The Gentiles themselves are irrelevant except how to control them. These Jews control countries that are not reliant on frequent blood and treasury infusions from other countries to keep their countries afloat. Ideally, they are in a position where they should be consolidating their own power bases. Nowhere else in the world is this more true than America.

    Before they all assumed positions of leadership, Diaspora Jews, particularly in the United States, felt they had to support Israel as a point of refuge, because they had no power. Now they run the damned place and they are dealing with an Israeli who clearly has demonstrated that he does not give a damn if they lose that power base by his own remarks.

    The idea that Israeli Jews will be contaminated by intermarriage and a non-Jewish culture is absurd. If one could go back over two hundred years and bring a European Christian to see what America is today, it would be obvious that the reverse is true. It is the Christians who have been contaminated by intermarriage with Jews and have been gradually immersed in a Jewish culture.

  59. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    December 4, 2011 - 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Of course, they are also being undermined by several self-inflicted factors. There is five thousand years of history of Jews as a hostile minority with a “take the money and run” mindset. Thus, we have their corrupt version of crony capitalism resulting in the debacle of Occupy Wall Street becoming more “Anti-Semitic” by the day.

    There is their constant knee-jerk hostility to Christianity even though they have not only appropriated it, but subverted it to Jewish interests. That mutation, “Judeo-Christianity,” is their only hope of keeping a lock on America, that most Philosemite of countries. In my opinion, “Judeo-Christianity” is the Jewish version of Arab Dhimmitude for the Gentiles, except that it’s voluntary on the part of brainwashed Christian Zionists.

    One would think that Jews would do everything to support it, but for whatever reason they don’t, hence we have boils like Sarah Silverman, Sandra Bernhardt, etc. popping up. For some reason, the fact that the more secular a formerly Christian nation becomes, the more hostile to Judaism it is seems to completely elude them. Free of any religious awe where the Jewish god, Yahweh is concerned, Gentile leftists don’t have to buy that Chosen People Schtick.

    But it was during the Christian Zionist administration of George Dubya Bush that Israel, AIPAC, and their Neo-Confederates working with him managed to mire the country into an unwinnable war in Afghanistan and lie the country into war with Iraq. The 911 attack does not bear up under close scrutiny with the Dancing Israelis, WTC Building 7 mysteriously going down and its owner (as well as the other two centers) having an amazing run of luck what with heavily insuring all three buildings and happening to be nowhere around the day they came tumbling down.

    There are all the costs involved in maintaining Israel that is draining both their blood and national treasuries and trying the patience of the Gentiles they are trying to control. It is America that has shouldered the biggest burden of upkeep and maintenance of Israel and the costs are becoming too prohibitive. The natives are getting restless and the Jewish leadership are finding their Gentile peasants revolting.

    So, what happens to them if they have to run out of the country in the dead of night one step ahead of a howling mob armed with pitchforks thanks to Netanyahu and his antics? Netanyahu who is displaying the chutzpah to imply American Jews aren’t real Jews anyway and don’t qualify as future Israeli citizens, even after all the time, treachery, effort, and money they have personally invested to ensure Israel’s existence? Even if they were welcomed by BiBi, could they really be content to step down from running the United States to replace Arabs as the Israeli Jews’ menial labor? Hmmmm?

  60. George's Gravatar George
    December 4, 2011 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    The US is over-Edomed

    Wall Street, Hollywood, US foreign policy, the Supreme Court, the legal system generally, mainstream media-management, the universities and the radical feminist and pro-abortion and pro-gay movements, are all over-Edomed. A century before the birth of Christ, a people utterly condemned by all the major prophets, the Edomites, were converted as a group to become ‘Jews’. According to Josephus, the Jewish historian who lived just after the time of Christ, ‘They (Edom) were hereafter no other than Jews’ (Josephus Antiquities of the Jews, XIII ix 1; XV vii 9). Roth’s Concise Jewish Encyclopedia (1980) says ‘John Hyrcanus forcibly converted [Edom] to Judaism. From then on they were part of the Jewish people..’ (p 154). The Jewish Encyclopedia (1925) says ‘Edom is in Jewry’ (Volume 5 p. 41). Yahweh the God of Israel, ‘hated Esau (Edom)’, a people ‘against whom he has indignation forever’ (Malachi 1:2-4). Revelation 19:13 describes Christ’s cloak as soaked in blood. Bibles with marginal references and other reference Bibles virtually all link this to Isaiah 63:1-6, so Christ Himself will destroy Edom. Obadiah verse 4: ‘Though you soar like the eagle and set your nest among the stars [referring to Edom’s power at the end of the age - see the US President's official crest with occult, non-biblical, so-called 'Star of David' formed with stars], I will bring you down from there, says the Lord.’ ‘There shall be no survivor from the house of Esau, for the Lord has spoken’ (verse 18). If you study the subject of ‘Babylon’ (Revelation 17 and 18, Isaiah 47, Jeremiah 50 and 51), it clearly refers to the sordid, rotten, sick, corrupt anti-Christian money-power so visible today, manipulating politicians and controlling the media. Edom is linked to this Babylon (compare Isaiah 34:5-15 and Isaiah 13:19-22 with Revelation 19:3).

    Ezekiel refers to Idumea (Edom, also referred to as Mount Seir) as taking possession of the land and heritage of Israel and Judah (Ezekiel 35:10, 11, 15; 36:2, 5).The Edomites took control of Judea under the Romans – the evil Edomite Herodian dynasty symbolises this control. Jesus twice accuses ‘those who say they are Jews and are not’ as being a ‘synagogue of Satan’ (Rev2:9, 3:9). Jesus said to these Jews ‘Because you are not sheep of my flock you do not believe’ (Jn10:24-27). True Israel is hidden in the church – the evil modern Jewish counterfeit is anti-Christ (1Jn2:22-3) . ‘He who denies that Jesus is the Christ.. is the antichrist.. No one who denies the Son has the Father’ . Pharisees = ‘vipers’.
    “Democracy” in the United States is terribly skewed in the direction of money, through lobbying groups such as AIPAC. Ordinary US citizens are essentially vote-fodder. This is the ‘democracy’ that the US tries to export to other unfortunate countries, using the ‘shock and awe’ tactics of fire and destruction. Since 1973, violently racist Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion, according to an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in Washington. http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html. If divided by today’s population, that is more than $5,700 per person.This has created the terrible injustice against the Palestinian people, including dispossession, ethnocleansing and the Nazi-like war crimes committed in Gaza by Israel, and tremendous burning hatred against the US in the Moslem world and resultant deaths in the US military.

    The only way to stop the interminable non-Christian wars that America now wages is to expose and deport the zionists. [The so-called 'Judeo-Christians' presumably imagine that Jesus wished to form a coalition with the 'serpent-viper' hypocrit Pharisees.] These promote or excuse the ruthlessly violent racism of Israeli ethnic-cleansing, land thefts, political assassinations, phosphorus bombing and general killing of children, Nazi-like border controls and maltreatment of people generally because they are non-Jewish legitimate citizens of Palestine. Google: ‘Neocons Jews Iraq war JINSA AIPAC PNAC’. For the Afghanistan war, examine http://www.ae911truth.org/.

  61. George's Gravatar George
    December 4, 2011 - 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Churchill and Hitler.. and history..

    Winston Churchill was knighted after World War 2 and buried from Westminster Abbey, perhaps the highest tribute that could be paid to him, while Adolf Hitler has been accorded the status of perhaps the most evil politician in human history.

    WINSTON CHURCHILL in July 1940

    “When I look around to see how we can win the war I see that there is only one sure path. We have no Continental army which can defeat the German military power.. Should [Hitler].. not try invasion [of Britain].. there is one thing that will bring him back and bring him down, and that is an absolutely devastating, exterminating attack by very heavy bombers from this country upon the Nazi homeland. We must be able to overwhelm them by this means, without which I do not see a way through. We cannot accept any aim lower than air mastery. When can it be obtained?” [Extract from Winston S Churchill The Second World War (Volume 2 Their Finest Hour Appendix A), Memo from Prime Minister to Minister of Aircraft Production, 8.July 1940].

    ADOLF HITLER in May 1940

    Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Hitler actually wanted peace with Britain, as the German generals admitted (Basil Liddell Hart, The Other Side of the Hill 1948, Pan Books 1983) with regard to the so-called Halt Order of 24 May 1940 at Dunkirk, where Hitler had the opportunity to capture the entire British Army, but chose not to. Liddell Hart, one of Britain’s most respected military historians, quotes the German General von Blumentritt with regard to this Halt Order:

    “He (Hitler) then astonished us by speaking with admiration of the British Empire, of the necessity for its existence, and of the civilization that Britain had brought into the world. He remarked, with a shrug of the shoulders, that the creation of its Empire had been achieved by means that were often harsh, but ‘where there is planing, there are shavings flying’. He compared the British Empire with the Catholic Church ­ saying they were both essential elements of stability in the world. He said that all he wanted from Britain was that she should acknowledge Germany’s position on the Continent. The return of Germany’s colonies would be desirable but not essential, and he would even offer to support Britain with troops if she should be involved in difficulties anywhere..” (p 200).

    According to Liddell Hart, “At the time we believed that the repulse of the Luftwaffe in the ‘Battle over Britain’ had saved her. That is only part of the explanation, the last part of it. The original cause, which goes much deeper, is that Hitler did not want to conquer England. He took little interest in the invasion preparations, and for weeks did nothing to spur them on; then, after a brief impulse to invade, he veered around again and suspended the preparations. He was preparing, instead, to invade Russia” (p140).

    David Irving in the foreword to his book The Warpath (1978) refers to “the discovery.. that at no time did this man (Hitler) pose or intend a real threat to Britain or the Empire.”

    http://rense.com/general95/churchill.htm

  62. George's Gravatar George
    December 4, 2011 - 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Hitler saw the tremendous danger posed to Germany by Communism. He appreciated the desperate need to eliminate this threat, a fact that earned him the immense hatred and animosity of the Jewish organisations and the media and politicians of the west which they could influence. After all, according to the Jewish writer Chaim Bermant, although Jews formed less than five percent of Russia’s population, they formed more than fifty percent of its revolutionaries.

    Bermant in his book The Jews (1977, chapter 8):
    ‘It must be added that most of the leading revolutionaries who convulsed Europe in the final decades of the last century and the first decades of this one, stemmed from prosperous Jewish families.. They were perhaps typified by the father of revolution, Karl Marx.. Thus when, after the chaos of World War I, revolutions broke out all over Europe, Jews were everywhere at the helm; Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev and Zinoviev in Russia, Bela Kun in Hungary, Kurt Eisner in Bavaria, and, most improbable of all, Rosa Luxemburg in Berlin.
    ‘To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews.. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews.’

    Other authors agree with this:

    “There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1.. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists.. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.” (Sarah Gordon Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’ Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).

    “The second paroxysm of strong anti-Semitism came after the critical role of Jews in International Communism and the Russian Revolution and during the economic crises of the 1920s and 30s Anti-Semitism intensified throughout Europe and North America following the perceived and actual centrality of Jews in the Russian Revolution.. Such feelings were not restricted to Germany, or to vulgar extremists like the Nazis. All over Northern Europe and North America, anti-Semitism became the norm in ‘nice society’, and ‘nice society’ included the universities.” (Martin Bernal, Black Athena vol. 1 pp. 367, 387).

    “The major role Jewish leaders played in the November (Russian) revolution was probably more important than any other factor in confirming (Hitler’s) anti-Semitic beliefs.” (J&S Pool, Who Financed Hitler, p.164).

  63. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 4, 2011 - 4:37 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: You also oppose La Raza, but you didn’t find it (although it’s as big as the Everest), but you did find a minuscule white nationalist group, even though it must have been quite difficult finding this site… Strange, to say the least.

    Of course someone can kill 70 people and still be a serious political thinker, these two things are not mutually exclusive. Vladimir Lenin or Mao Zedong are considered great theorists of politics and strategy, and yet both of them were among the bloodiest murderers in history.

    However, I’m now going to heed Pierre’s advice in not replying to you anymore.

  64. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    December 4, 2011 - 6:12 pm | Permalink

    @Clytemnestra: Your comments get more and more valuable every day. Thank you.

  65. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 4, 2011 - 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Fine, we can be done. As I’ve said before, I don’t mind you advocating for “white” interests (although I think this is a construction), and it is to be expected with groups like La Raza and NAACP. But I do mind you basing your discussion of white interests on the hatred and demonization of another group of people, the majority of whom are just citizens among you (my family are social workers and doctors).

  66. thm's Gravatar thm
    December 4, 2011 - 8:27 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:

    But I do mind you basing your discussion of white interests on the hatred and demonization of another group of people, the majority of whom are just citizens among you (my family are social workers and doctors).

    Isn’t your calling White interests a construction and your claiming there is no such ethnic group as Christian heritage European ethnic people, which you did earlier in this thread, a way of denying the values, culture and heritage of European ethnic people and demonizing them?

    Isn’t your claim that White people who are looking out for the interests and protection of their heritage, values, religion and culture are Nazis and White supremacists demonizing White people?

    The very assumption you make that, while Jewish people and organizations regularly defame Christian European ethnic values, culture, history, the Christian Faith, when European ethnic people make any comments whatever about what Jews are doing as a group they are bigoted anti-Semites is itself demonizing White people. Isn’t this true?

  67. Sandman's Gravatar Sandman
    December 4, 2011 - 8:51 pm | Permalink

    And the Orthodox Jews in Israel look down (and despise) secular Israeli Jews, American Jews, and of course feel pure hatred towards White Gentiles. Their precious DNA must survive!, lol.

  68. Sandman's Gravatar Sandman
    December 4, 2011 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    One more thing; the typical “settler” being Orthodox has a wife who gives birth to an average number of 7-8 little nation wreckers. They get incentives from the government to do this but don’t need any extra encouragment. They are quite dedicated. Netanyhu likes this but also wants the “useful idiot Christian-Zioinsts” to keep blessing Israel with money,trees,and political suport, and propaganda. That’s part of the reason they yanked those ads. They don’t want the useful idiots to wake up and understand how much the Israelis really hate them. That’s the truth.

  69. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 4, 2011 - 9:37 pm | Permalink

    @Clytemnestra:

    It’d really help things if you didn’t use their own Jew/Gentile dichotomy in your posts. If you divide the world between jew and goy you’re still operating under their paradigm. It’s not jews vs. gentiles, it’s Europeans vs. non-Europeans. Stop living in their narrative.

  70. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 4, 2011 - 9:40 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    “The problem with Jews is their greed. Greed for money, power, influence, and air time.”

    Um, no. Jews are doing what any group of people should do, which is improving their station in life and defeating their enemies. The problem is not with Jews, it’s with us. The Jews fight, we don’t. The Jews would not be a problem if we had an ounce of pride or solidarity. The strong always defeat the weak, that’s the way of the world.

  71. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 4, 2011 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    @George:

    Churchill and Hitler.. and history..

    Winston Churchill was knighted after World War 2 and buried from Westminster Abbey, perhaps the highest tribute that could be paid to him, while Adolf Hitler has been accorded the status of perhaps the most evil politician in human history.

    Historical truth is not only our best weapon, it is the necessary analysis, how we got into the situation where Jews wield absolute power.

    When the most sacred principle of “western democracy” – free speech – is sacrified inventing ridiculous “crimes” like holocaust denial, you can be sure that our adversaries are frightened to hell with revisionism.

    It has already been said on this site:
    The history of the last century has to be completely rewritten.
    We are trapped in the Jewish version, which boils down to: “the racist Germans wanted to conquer the world and hated the Jews for no other reason than not being Aryan.”

    After WWI, especially during Weimar, the Germans had their experience with both variants of Jews, the communists and the capitalists. So what we have been told was the folly of a lunatic people and their crazy leader, was in fact a well reasoned approach: let’s separate the tribe from the Aryans to prevent it from destroying the white race.

  72. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 4, 2011 - 10:53 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    That must be why they have such a sunny, happy history, and have been so well respected wherever and whenever they have lived. The problem is that they are cursed with an inability to understand the concept of enough! While I may agree with you that we are desperately in need of both pride and solidarity, that will not suffice to allow us to live with this peculiar people. I certainly don’t want to spend the rest of my life fending them off.
    I submit that the rise in “female accomplishment” are a result of far too many white men refusing to enter the fray because they will not abide Jewish arrogance in the workplace. Women are more compliant. So they are now better educated and better employed.
    Perhaps the current “mancession” will make some men realize there are too few places left where a living can be made without kowtowing to Jewish sensibilities.
    Their media poison our children’s minds, their lawyers pervert our legal system into one of completely legal corruption, their scholars have ruined the best system of higher education in the world, their sociologist and psychologists and critics have undermined our entire culture, and their politicos have destroyed the greatest country ever created. All of this from 2% of the population? Enough!

  73. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 4, 2011 - 10:55 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Jews are doing what any group of people should do, which is improving their station in life …

    Um, yes.
    The Aryans improve it listening to Wagner, Mozart and Beethoven, inventing cars, GPS and Mickey Mouse movies.

    The tribe improves its “station in life” listening to Rothschild’s melodies:
    “Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.

    Money is not all that counts in your “station in life”, Mr. fender.

  74. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    December 5, 2011 - 2:10 am | Permalink

    @fender: Not so fast. Both strategies have their downsides. Jews are for example not quite capable of operating a society in Israel without outside help, and most likely even with outside help they are going to have problems. They already do, for example emigration.

    On the other hand, while the white European strategy might have its weakness (its vulnerability to parasites), it also has upsides (which the Jewish strategy totally lacks): I am now at the moment of writing listening to Ein deutsches Requiem by Johannes Brahms, Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit (soprano) – Ich will euch

  75. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 5, 2011 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    @sylvie: After this comment, excuse me for thinking that most people on this site are Nazis.

  76. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 5, 2011 - 9:21 am | Permalink

    @matthew:
    Na und? (German for: “So what?”).

  77. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 10:52 am | Permalink

    Matthew – most Jews are nationalists and, at least nominally, in the diaspora context, ‘socialists’, i.e. ashkeNazi national-socialists (Nazis). Jesus accused their leaders of being hypocrites.. hypocrites.. hypocrites.. hypocrites.. serpents.. vipers..

  78. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 5, 2011 - 11:17 am | Permalink

    @matthew:

    Please present arguments.

    You should have noticed that your “Holocaust” vocabulary (Nazis, Einsatzgruppen,…) is completely lost on this site.

    Save it for scaring the boobs on politically correct sites.

  79. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 11:51 am | Permalink

    Ben Gurion, the admired zionist leader, was another good example of a nationalist + socialist = national-socialist Nazi

  80. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 12:44 pm | Permalink

    J-Nazis are kosher to J-liberals, but any other kind are verboten.

  81. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 5, 2011 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    @sylvie:

    Right, so while the soft-brained Aryan is listening to his Wagner, the hard-brained Semite is deciding the way in which the Aryan’s children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren will live.

  82. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 5, 2011 - 2:42 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    I don’t see any upsides to the European “strategy,” which seems to involve simply letting non-Europeans boss them around.

  83. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 5, 2011 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    “The problem is that they are cursed with an inability to understand the concept of enough!”

    The Jews aren’t cursed with anything. It is we who are cursed. We’re cursed with ideals of universal morality, fairness, and egalitarianism. History will show that Whites went extinct because they believed in things that didn’t exist.

  84. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 5, 2011 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    I assure you that I agree with you on the danger we face. I can only assume you do not know many Jews. They are the least happy people on earth. The problem is that they are also talented and aggressive and will never suffer alone. They have projected all of their problems unto us and have used their impressive energy to make sure that we are more unhappy then they.
    You are wise to urge us to look to our own vulnerabilities, but the answer does not lie in emulating them, but in finding a way to free ourselves and our culture from their influence.

  85. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    December 5, 2011 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    I don’t think Whites will go extinct.

    I have great hope.

    Just today I was visiting a pro-White website. That particular site has received well over ten thousand visitors.

    Maybe some of those visitors might grow up to be the next Dr. MacDonald, or David Duke. Or maybe they will be inspired to create their own website. And their website, the one inspired by the other website, might inspire others to create their own website. Like a beautiful pro-White ripple effect.

    We live in such hopeful times. We have the internet — instant communication and access to all the knowledge in the world. Also, there are more Whites now than ever before.

    And here in America, we still have freedom of speech. I feel grateful for that. I still believe in respecting other races; not just with my words, but in my heart. But that does not mean I’m any less firm when it comes to loving Whites or my desire to protect them/us.

    Whites need a moral regeneration. I think that’s our main problem. If we can fix that, the rest will fall into place. If we don’t fix it, then nothing else will help us. (Those are my beliefs.)

  86. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 5, 2011 - 3:54 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Like killing us?

  87. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    December 5, 2011 - 3:54 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I love your comments, Mrs. Teller. I agree with virtually every single thing you write. (And, like you, I used to capitalize the word nazi. So you’re not alone there.)

  88. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 5, 2011 - 4:38 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:
    No matthew, I have no desire to kill you or anyone else. I would be quite content if you and your folks would simply learn to accept that there are some places where you and your opinion and wisdom are not welcome. Learn not to intrude into every aspect of our lives. Learn that Jews are a very small percentage of population of the world, perfectly entitled to a proportional share of all the worlds riches. I would be glad if you went back to Israel, or stayed and minded your own business. It has been made clear to you both politely and clearly that we are not interested in what you have to say – but here you are.
    Some of your post make me suspect that you are very young. In the unlikely event that you are genuinely interested in a dialog, I suggest you inform yourself first. I urge you to read The Jewish Century or The Fatal Embrace or Easu’s Tears. All were written by Jews with the courage to try and see that there might be a different side to the story of Jewish/Gentile conflict than you have been taught. The tactics you have resorted to here are all old and tired one that your people have annoyed us with for centuries. You began by being vulgar and insulting, and it went downhill from there to culminating with calling us stupid nazis. There has not been one moment when you have been open minded enough to even consider that there may be adequate reasons for our feelings.
    And that is why I cannot agree that Jews are better than we. For all of your gifts and talents you are miserable enough to spend your time at this site. Why?

  89. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 5, 2011 - 4:47 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: I’ve read two of those books, and my age has nothing to do with my argument. I, and my family, are minding our business thank you very much. My father is a physician who has served our veterans and the homeless, and my mother a social worker who works with the elderly. We are not guests in this country, but contributing citizens.

  90. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 5, 2011 - 4:48 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I’m from the northeast. Believe me, I’ve had Jewish friends throughout my life, and I can tell you that they are the happiest people I’ve ever met. Why wouldn’t they be happy? They have all the privilege and wealth in the world. In fact I remember reading an article earlier this year that said Jews are the happiest religion on the planet (of course the article ignored that Jews are a race, but whatever).

  91. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 5, 2011 - 4:58 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Alice is a classical case of projection.

  92. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    December 5, 2011 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

    @matthew: And by the way Alice, despite all your scholarship you don’t seem to see that the majority of American Jews happen to be just like me and my family.

  93. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    “Germany offers a case study in manipulation of the public mindset in plain sight and under the banner of a free press. In 2003, Zionist media mogul Haim Saban acquired the second largest media conglomerate in Germany. Why? As Saban investment banker Steve Rattner explained his client’s motivation: “Because Germany is important to Israel.” Or, as Saban concedes: “I have only one issue and that issue is Israel.”

    By 2005, Saban had succeeded in electing Angela Merkel as German Chancellor. She quickly became the European Union’s most reliable and forceful advocate for Israel. By November 2009, she was prepared to sponsor in Berlin an unprecedented joint session of the German and Israeli governments. Following his political success in Germany, Saban acquired in 2007 a controlling interest in Univision, a Latino-focused network serving the fastest-growing voting bloc in the U.S….” etc etc

    http://criminalstate.com/tag/haim-saban/

  94. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    In an address to the United Nations General Assembly, Benjamin Netanyahu portrayed Israel’s grievance against Iran as a conflict which “pits civilization against barbarism.” It’s tempting to dismiss the Israeli leader’s assertion as the hyperbolic trope of a demagogue, but there may be some truth to what he said. After all, what better word than “barbarism” to describe what Israel has done to the Palestinians for the past six decades? Or the havoc that Israel’s supporters in America have wrought on the people of Iraq? Or the untold devastation they have in mind for the Iranians? The influence the Israel Lobby wields in Washington has ensured that the United States has long been complicit in Israel’s barbarism. And if the Lobby gets it way in Brussels, so too will the European Union.

  95. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 5, 2011 - 5:20 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:
    I completely agree that the majority of Jews are just like you.

  96. George's Gravatar George
    December 5, 2011 - 5:20 pm | Permalink

    THE ENDURING PATTERN OF LIBERAL VALUES

    The writer Gore Vidal, with impressive family connections to high levels in the political elite (including the Zionist agent Al Gore), has this to say:

    ‘In my lifetime and country I have watched our governors manipulate Opinion with the greatest of ease. Certain races, arbitrary categories of human beings, political systems are demonised or trivialized on a daily and unrelenting basis. These are carefully crafted subliminal opinionated messages that hiss through the airwaves and into the minds of everyone from the first switching on of the cathode tube to the last TV supper when the light goes out.

    ‘America’s Public Enemy Number One (alas, our public enemies become yours, too) are the Arabs, bestial, sub-human terrorists. The American Israel lobby can take full credit for this campaign and their canny investment in American politicians is so astute that this year 65 out of 100 Senators, acting on the lobby’s orders, forbade the Administration to allow Arafat on American soil long enough to address the United Nations.

    ‘I would stop all military aid to the Middle East. This would oblige the hard-liners in Israel to make peace with the Palestinians. We have supported Israel for forty years. No other minority in the history of the United States has ever extorted so much Treasury money for its Holy Land as the Israeli lobby.

    ‘The corporate grip on opinion in the United States is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First World country has ever managed to eliminate so entirely from its media all objectivity – much less dissent.

    ‘ Of course, it is possible for any citizen with time to spare and a canny eye, to work out what is actually going on. But for the many there is no time, and the network news is the only news even though it may not be news at all, but only a series of flashing fictions intended to keep docile the huddled masses, like the avowed commercials keep the addled consumers avid for products.

    ‘Currently, the Arabs are being thoroughly demonised by the Israel lobby while the Japanese are being, somewhat nervously, demonised by elements of the corporate state. But neither will do as a long-term devil because the Arabs are too numerous (and have too much oil) while the Japanese will simply order us to stop it; should we disobey them, they will buy the networks and show us many hours of the soothing tea ceremony.’

    [A View from the Diner's Club: Essays 1987-1991, by Gore Vidal. Published by Andre Deutsch.]

  97. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 5, 2011 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    @matthew:
    No you are a classical case of projection.Alice only said that she wanted to “find a way to free ourselves and our culture from their influence” and you can only interpret that as a wish for your genocide.In an earlier comment you even said:”…when commenters here and places like storm front still think we should all bake in the oven…” These are typical examples of Jewish paranoia. I know that Jews live in a permanent state of fear that someday we Goyim might rebel and try to exterminate them.This irrational fear is not only maintained by the continuous remembering of the Holocaust but also by the yearly observing of the festival of Purim in which this paranoia is “celebrated”.You are in reality a pathetic tribe of inbred psychopaths and the main source of your eternal conflict with the rest of humanity clearly lies in yourselves.

  98. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 5, 2011 - 5:50 pm | Permalink

    @George:
    Excellent quote. Chilling!

  99. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    December 5, 2011 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Today the religious and ultra-religious grandchildren of the freckled, fair-skinned, grey-eyed Khazars who 100 years ago set off from the shores of Lithuania in the direction of hitherto terra incognita referred to as ‘Palestine’ are spearheading the fight against ‘polluting’ effects of intermarriage on the Judaic blood lines.
    I mean, you can’t make this stuff up. LOL

  100. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 12:48 am | Permalink

    My Holocaust by Tova Reich
    A Novel published by HarperCollins

    A satire on the culture of victim glorification and Holocaust memory exploitation, My Holocaust follows the careers of the father-son team, Maurice and Norman Messer, who know a good product when they see it. That product is the Holocaust-and Maurice, a survivor with a self-enhancing inflated personal history, and Norman, enjoying vicarious victimhood as a participant in the second-generation movement, proceed to market it enthusiastically. Not even the disappearance of Nechama, Norman`s daughter and Maurice`s granddaughter, into the Carmelite convent at Auschwitz, where she is transformed into a nun, Sister Consolatia of the Cross, deters them from pushing their agenda. The novel follows them on a tour of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp, which Maurice, now the driving force behind the most powerful Holocaust memorialization institution in the U.S., organizes to soften up a major potential donor, and which Norman takes advantage of to embark on a surrealistic search for his daughter.

    The novel reaches its climax in the takeover of the U.S. Holocaust museum by a coalition of self-styled victims all seeking Holocaust status, bringing together a large cast of characters from every side of the spectrum-from Holocaust wannabees (African and Native Americans, Muslims, women, etc.) to Holocaust professionals- who proceed to mindlessly sacrifice their own children and drain all meaning from suffering and memory in the fevered competition to win the grand prize.

  101. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    We know that only the deaths or supposed deaths of Jews are important. The deaths of others, even children, are just little footnotes to history, particularly when Jews are on the killing side.

    We must remember the exchange in 1996 between Bill Clinton’s Zionist Secretary of State Madeleine Albright who was then US ambassador to the United Nations, and Lesley Stahl of CBS. Albright was maintaining that sanctions had yielded important concessions from Saddam Hussein.
    Stahl: “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And you know, is the price worth it?”
    Albright: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price.., ­ we think the price is worth it.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK_QshS2EW8
    They read that exchange in the Middle East. It was infamous all over the Arab world.

  102. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 12:53 am | Permalink

    At the end of the First World War, Germany was essentially tricked [see Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p24 and H Nicholson Peacemaking 1919 (1933) pp13-16] into paying massive reparations to France and other economic competitors and former belligerent countries in terms of the so-called Treaty of Versailles, thanks to the liberal American President Woodrow Wilson. Germany was declared to be solely responsible for the war, in spite of the fact that `Germany did not plot a European war, did not want one, and made genuine efforts, though too belated, to avert one.’ (Professor Sydney B Fay The Origins of the World War (vol. 2 p 552)).

    As a result of these massive enforced financial reparations, by 1923 the situation in Germany became desperate and inflation on an astronomical scale became the only way out for the government. Printing presses were engaged to print money around the clock. In 1921 the exchange rate was 75 marks to the dollar. By 1924 this had become about 5 trillion marks to the dollar. This virtually destroyed the German middle class (Koestler The God that Failed p 28), reducing any bank savings to a virtual zero.

    According to Sir Arthur Bryant the British historian (Unfinished Victory (1940 pp. 136-144):

    `It was the Jews with their international affiliations and their hereditary flair for finance who were best able to seize such opportunities.. They did so with such effect that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to the Times correspondent in Berlin, something like a third of the real property in the Reich. Most of it came into their hands during the inflation.. But to those who had lost their all this bewildering transfer seemed a monstrous injustice. After prolonged sufferings they had now been deprived of their last possessions. They saw them pass into the hands of strangers, many of whom had not shared their sacrifices and who cared little or nothing for their national standards and traditions.. The Jews obtained a wonderful ascendancy in politics, business and the learned professions (in spite of constituting) less than one percent of the population.. The banks, including the Reichsbank and the big private banks, were practically controlled by them. So were the publishing trade, the cinema, the theatres and a large part of the press – all the normal means, in fact, by which public opinion in a civilized country is formed.. The largest newspaper combine in the country with a daily circulation of four millions was a Jewish monopoly.. Every year it became harder and harder for a gentile to gain or keep a foothold in any privileged occupation.. At this time it was not the `Aryans’ who exercised racial discrimination. It was a discrimination that operated without violence. It was exercised by a minority against a majority. There was no persecution, only elimination.. It was the contrast between the wealth enjoyed – and lavishly displayed – by aliens of cosmopolitan tastes, and the poverty and misery of native Germans, that has made anti-Semitism so dangerous and ugly a force in the new Europe. Beggars on horseback are seldom popular, least of all with those whom they have just thrown out of the saddle.’

    Goodness gracious, Sir Arthur! What made you get out of the wrong side of the bed?

    Strangely enough, a book unexpectedly published by Princeton University Press in 1984, Sarah Gordon (Hitler, Germans and the “Jewish Question”) essentially confirms what Bryant says. According to her, `Jews were never a large percentage of the total German population; at no time did they exceed 1% of the population during the years 1871-1933.’ But she adds `Jews were over-represented in business, commerce, and public and private service.. They were especially visible in private banking in Berlin, which in 1923 had 150 private Jewish banks, as opposed to only 11 private non-Jewish banks.. They owned 41% of iron and scrap iron firms and 57% of other metal businesses.. Jews were very active in the stock market, particularly in Berlin, where in 1928 they comprised 80% of the leading members of the stock exchange. By 1933, when the Nazis began eliminating Jews from prominent positions, 85% of the brokers on the Berlin Stock exchange were dismissed because of their “race”.. At least a quarter of full professors and instructors (at German universities) had Jewish origins.. In 1905-6 Jewish students comprised 25% of the law and medical students.. In 1931, 50% of the 234 theatre directors in Germany were Jewish, and in Berlin the number was 80%.. In 1929 it was estimated that the per capita income of Jews in Berlin was twice that of other Berlin residents..’ etc etc.

    Arthur Koestler confirms the Jewish over-involvement in German publishing. `Ullstein’s was a kind of super-trust; the largest organization of its kind in Europe, and probably In the world. They published four daily papers in Berlin alone, among these the venerable Vossische Zeitung, founded in the eighteenth century, and the B.Z. am Mittag, an evening paper.. Apart from these, Ullstein’s published more than a dozen weekly and monthly periodicals, ran their own news service, their own travel agency, etc., and were one of the leading book publishers. The firm was owned by the brothers Ullstein – they were five, like the original Rothschild brothers, and like them also, they were Jews.’ (The God that Failed (1950) ed. RHS Crossman, p 31).

    Edgar Mowrer, Berlin correspondent for the Chicago Daily News, wrote an anti-German tract called Germany Puts the Clock Back (published as a Penguin Special and reprinted five times between December 1937 and April 1938). He nevertheless notes `In the all-important administration of Prussia, any number of strategic positions came into the hands of Hebrews.. A telephone conversation between three Jews in Ministerial offices could result in the suspension of any periodical or newspaper in the state.. The Jews came in Germany to play in politics and administration that same considerable part that they had previously won by open competition in business, trade, banking, the Press, the arts, the sciences and the intellectual and cultural life of the country. And thereby the impression was strengthened that Germany, a country with a mission of its own, had fallen into the hands of foreigners.’

    Mowrer says `No one who lived through the period from 1919 to 1926 is likely to forget the sexual promiscuity that prevailed.. Throughout a town like Berlin, hotels and pensions made vast fortunes by letting rooms by the hour or day to baggageless, unregistered guests. Hundreds of cabarets, pleasure resorts and the like served for purposes of getting acquainted and acquiring the proper mood..’ (pp. 153-4). Bryant describes throngs of child prostitutes outside the doors of the great Berlin hotels and restaurants. He adds `Most of them (the night clubs and vice-resorts) were owned and managed by Jews. And it was the Jews.. among the promoters of this trade who were remembered in after years.’ (pp. 144-5).

    Douglas Reed, Chief Central European correspondent before WWII for the London Times, was profoundly anti-German and anti-Hitler. But nevertheless he reported: `I watched the Brown Shirts going from shop to shop with paint pots and daubing on the window panes the word “Jew”, in dripping red letters. The Kurfürstendamm was to me a revelation. I knew that Jews were prominent in business life, but I did not know that they almost monopolized important branches of it. Germany had one Jew to one hundred gentiles, said the statistics; but the fashionable Kurfürstendamm, according to the dripping red legends, had about one gentile shop to ninety-nine Jewish ones.’ (Reed Insanity Fair (1938) p. 152-3). In Reed’s book Disgrace Abounding of the following year he notes `In the Berlin (of pre-Hitler years) most of the theatres were Jewish-owned or Jewish-leased, most of the leading film and stage actors were Jews, the plays performed were often by German, Austrian or Hungarian Jews and were staged by Jewish film producers, applauded by Jewish dramatic critics in Jewish newspapers.. The Jews are not cleverer than the Gentiles, if by clever you mean good at their jobs. They ruthlessly exploit the common feeling of Jews, first to get a foothold in a particular trade or calling, then to squeeze the non-Jews out of it.. It is not true that Jews are better journalists than Gentiles. They held all the posts on those Berlin papers because the proprietors and editors were Jewish’ (pp238-9).

  103. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 12:55 am | Permalink

    Extract from Sir Reginald Paget’s book Manstein: His Campaign and His Trial (Collins, 1951), page 109 :
    the (US) Simpson Inquiry Commission “reported among other things that of the 139 (German) cases they had investigated, 137 had had their testicles permanently destroyed by kicks received from the American War Crimes Investigating Team.”

    Sen. Christopher J. Dodd is out with a book. But it’s not a conventional candidate biography or blueprint for change.
    It’s about the Connecticut Democrat’s late father, Thomas J. Dodd, who preceded him in the Senate. In fact, most of it was written by his father —and it is fascinating.
    The book, which the senator put together with the assistance of Lary Bloom, is Letters from Nuremberg: My Father’s Narrative of a Quest for Justice.
    The senior Dodd wrote the letters in 1945-’46 to his wife, Grace, back home in Connecticut, while he was abroad, mostly in Germany, as a prosecutor in the Allies’ war crimes trial of 22 top Nazis, including Hermann Göring, Joachim von Ribbentrop and Albert Speer.(All but three were convicted; 12 were sentenced to hang.)….
    Consider these Sept. 25, 1945, observations from Tom Dodd, who would emerge as second in command on the American prosecution team:
    “You know how I have despised anti-Semitism. You know how strongly I feel toward those who preach intolerance of any kind. With that knowledge — you will understand when I tell you that this staff is about seventy-five percent Jewish. Now my point is that the Jews should stay away from this trial — for their own sake. For — mark this well — the charge ‘a war for the Jews’ is still being made and in the post-war years it will be made again and again. The too large percentage of Jewish men and women here will be cited as proof of this charge. Sometimes it seems that the Jews will never learn about these things. They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads. I do not like to write about this matter —it is distasteful to me — but I am disturbed about it. They are pushing and crowding and competing with each other and with everyone else.”

  104. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 12:59 am | Permalink

    People who complain about the German concentration camps in WW2, rarely complain about the very much larger Soviet Gulag camps, which Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (in his magnum opus The Gulag Archipelago, paperback edition, vol 2 p 79) describes as being under the control of the Jew Matvei Berman, the “Chief of Gulag”. Yakov Rappoport was deputy chief of construction (p 78). Solzhenitsyn credits Naftaly Frenkel, a ‘Turkish-born Jew’, with being works chief / chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal, built entirely with slave labour (p 72). Frenkel, Berman and Rappoport are amongst six men described by Solzhenitsyn as ‘hired murderers’, ‘each of whom accounted for thirty thousand lives’ (p 91).

    There were at least 476 separate camps, some of them comprising hundreds, even thousands of camp units. The most infamous complexes were those at arctic or subarctic regions. Today’s major industrial cities of the Russian Arctic such as Norilsk, Vorkuta, Kolyma and Magadan, were camps originally built by prisoners and run by ex-prisoners.
    More than 14 million people passed through the Gulag from 1929 to 1953, with a further 6 to 7 million being deported and exiled to remote areas of the USSR. According to de-classified archive data released by the successor agency to the KGB after Perestroika, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the GULAG from 1934 to 1953, not counting those who died in labor colonies. The total population of the camps varied from 510,307 (in 1934) to 1,727,970 (in 1953).
    Most Gulag inmates were not political prisoners, although the political prisoner population was always significant. People could be imprisoned in a Gulag camp for crimes such as unexcused absences from work, petty theft, or anti-government jokes. About half of the political prisoners were sent to Gulag prison camps without trial; per official data, there were more than 2.6 million imprisonment sentences in cases investigated by the secret police, 1921-1953.

    Hitler saw the tremendous danger posed to Germany by Communism. He appreciated the desperate need to eliminate this threat, a fact that earned him the immense hatred and animosity of the Jewish organisations and the media and politicians of the west which they could influence. After all, according to the Jewish writer Chaim Bermant, although Jews formed less than five percent of Russia’s population, they formed more than fifty percent of its revolutionaries. According to the Jewish writer Chaim Bermant in his book The Jews (1977, chapter 8):

    ‘It must be added that most of the leading revolutionaries who convulsed Europe in the final decades of the last century and the first decades of this one, stemmed from prosperous Jewish families.. They were perhaps typified by the father of revolution, Karl Marx.. Thus when, after the chaos of World War I, revolutions broke out all over Europe, Jews were everywhere at the helm; Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev and Zinoviev in Russia, Bela Kun in Hungary, Kurt Eisner in Bavaria, and, most improbable of all, Rosa Luxemburg in Berlin.

    ‘To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews.. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews.’

    Other authors agree with this:

    “There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1.. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists.. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.” (Sarah Gordon Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’ Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).

    “The second paroxysm of strong anti-Semitism came after the critical role of Jews in International Communism and the Russian Revolution and during the economic crises of the 1920s and 30s… Anti-Semitism intensified throughout Europe and North America following the perceived and actual centrality of Jews in the Russian Revolution.. Such feelings were not restricted to Germany, or to vulgar extremists like the Nazis. All over Northern Europe and North America, anti-Semitism became the norm in ‘nice society’, and ‘nice society’ included the universities.” (Martin Bernal, Black Athena vol. 1 pp. 367, 387).

    “The major role Jewish leaders played in the November (Russian) revolution was probably more important than any other factor in confirming (Hitler’s) anti-Semitic beliefs.” (J&S Pool, Who Financed Hitler, p.164).

    Jews in pre-war Germany were accepted as enemy aliens after Samuel Untermeyer, the leader of the World Jewish Economic Federation, declared war on Germany on August 6 1933. (Edwin Black The Transfer Agreement: the Untold Story of the Secret Pact between the Third Reich and Palestine (1984) pp272-277) According to Black, ‘The one man who most embodied the potential death blow to Germany was Samuel Untermeyer.’ (p 369). This was the culmination of a worldwide boycott of German goods led by international Jewish organizations. The London Daily Express on March 24, 1933 carried the headline Judea Declares War on Germany.

  105. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 1:03 am | Permalink

    Weapons of mass destruction – industrialised people-killing

    Conception of the neutron bomb is generally credited to Samuel Cohen of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, who developed the concept in 1958. (wikipedia)

    Neutron bombs produce an intense burst of high-energy neutrons which “is intended as the principal killing mechanism”, although large amounts of heat and blast are also produced. Although neutron bombs are commonly believed to “leave the infrastructure intact”, current designs have explosive yields in the kiloton range, the detonation of which would cause heavy destruction through blast and heat effects.

    The atomic bomb was developed by the Jew J Robert Oppenheimer, and the hydrogen bomb by the Jew Edward Teller.

  106. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 1:07 am | Permalink

    http://www.heebmagazine.com/blog/view/1391

    Heeb Magazine Fake Holocaust Memoir Competition

    To be sure, false Holocaust memoirs are hardly a recent phenomenon (Next time, Art Spiegelman, do a little research-there was no concentration camp called “Mauschwitz.”). But in recent years, they seem to have become both more common and more crappy. It’s no longer enough to simply say you were in a concentration camp, like Fauxlocaust survivor Benjamin Wilkomirski. No, now you need to have been led across Europe by wolves, or have a chance encounter years later that results in your marriage to the hidden Jewish girl who saved you. Bad enough that these assorted frauds and lunatics should spew this nonsense, but do they have to do such a bad job of it? Have they no shame?

    The answer, of course, is that they don’t. And so while the rest of the world may turn away or offer the occasional book deal, we cannot remain silent (much less offer a book deal). What we can-no, must-do, is confront this dangerous trend the only way we know how-with a self-aggrandizing and somewhat offensive publicity stunt.

    And thus, we unveil the Heeb Magazine Fake Holocaust Memoir Competition. Simply write a fake Holocaust Memoir recounting your tale of Holocaust survival, get it to us by April 1, and let us do the rest, which, in this case, involves reading your submissions choosing a winner, announcing the winner on Yom Hashoah (April 21) and publishing the winning entry in the subsequent issue of Heeb. You’re reading that correctly. You could be published in Heeb Magazine, and who knows-maybe you could be on Oprah, too?

    Contest Rules

    1. All entries must be received by April 1, 2009.

    2. Entries should be emailed to info@heebmagazine.com with the subject line “Heeb Fake Holocaust Memoir Competition” or sent to: Heeb Fake Holocaust Memoir Competition, P.O. Box 687, New York, New York, 10012.

    3. Entries may be of any length, but we should tell you that our years of watching TV have really shot our attention span all to hell.

    4. Although real Holocaust survivors may enter, the memoirs themselves must be fake.

    5. No erotic fan fiction

    6. No close friends or relatives of Alex Trebek

    7. We reserve the right to mock any and all entries.

    8. We reserve the right to publish and mock the winning entry.

    9. “Memoirs” shall be defined as a form of writing, not a collage, short film or interpretive dance piece.

    10. Jewdar will be the sole arbitrator of entries, and will decide the winner. Don’t be too shocked if it’s Jewdar’s.

    11. No parking baby. No parking on the dance floor.

    12. No use of the words “tumescent,” “engorged” or “moist,” unless they are referring to cake

    13. No previously published fake Holocaust memoirs

    14. All entries must be the original creations of the entrant.

    15. We are not liable for anything, anytime, anywhere, no givesies backsies, infinity.

    jewdar | Posted on February 09, 2009

  107. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 6, 2011 - 1:50 am | Permalink

    @George:
    Wow! That is without a doubt the most succinct account of the times I have ever read. Bravo.

  108. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:39 am | Permalink

    Thank you, Alice, for the compliment..

  109. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:45 am | Permalink

    Zionist trial runs of “6 Million” Holocaust propaganda in 1911 – and 1919

    Max Nordau (1849-1923) was the co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodor Herzl.

    Have a look at this Max Nordau quote from Ben Hecht’s book ‘Perfidy’ – which is available for free in PDF format at
    http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf (on page 232 of 261):

    Quote:
    In the Zionist Congress of 1911, 22 years before Hitler came to power, and three years before World War I, Nordau said, “How dare the smooth talkers, the clever official blabbers, open their mouths and boast of progress. . . . Here they hold jubilant peace conferences in which they talk against war. . . . But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people, and there is nobody, except the doomed themselves, to raise his voice in protest although this is a worse crime than any war . . .” unquote.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    And take a look at the article from The American Hebrew, October 31 1919

    (see attached reproduction below), prophesying a ‘holocaust’ of ‘six million’:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_H._Glynn

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/images/091031crucifixion.gif

    The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!
    By Martin H. Glynn
    (Former Governor of the State of N.Y.)

    From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.

    These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter’s cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

    In the face of death, in the throes of starvation there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.

    Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.

    In this threatened holocaust of human life, forgotten are the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of historical interpretation; and the determination to help the helpless, to shelter the homeless, to clothe the naked and to feed the hungry.. etc etc etc etc

  110. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:49 am | Permalink

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,666327,00.html

    One of the vast number of ridiculous tales:

    Sixty-five years ago, infamous Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele removed Yitzhak Ganon’s kidney without anesthesia. The Greek-born Jew swore never to see a doctor again — until a heart attack last month brought his horrific tale into the open.

    Ganon had to lie down on a table and was tied down. Without any anesthetics, Mengele cut him open and removed his kidney. “I saw the kidney pulsing in his hand and cried like a crazy man,” Ganon says. “I screamed the ‘Shema Yisrael.’ I begged for death, to stop the suffering.”

    After the “operation,” he had to work in the Auschwitz sewing room without painkillers.

  111. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:51 am | Permalink

    The head Nazi-hunter’s trail of lies
    Simon Wiesenthal, famed for his pursuit of justice, caught fewer war criminals than he claimed and fabricated much of his own Holocaust story
    Guy Walters

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article6718913.ece
    Since the early 1960s Simon Wiesenthal’s name has become synonymous with Nazi hunting. His standing is that of a secular saint. Nominated four times for the Nobel peace prize, the recipient of a British honorary knighthood, the US Presidential Medal of Freedom, the French Légion d’honneur and at least 53 other distinctions, he was often credited with some 1,100 Nazi “scalps”. He is remembered, above all, for his efforts to track down Adolf Eichmann, one of the most notorious war criminals.

    His reputation is built on sand, however. He was a liar — and a bad one at that. From the end of the second world war to the end of his life in 2005, he would lie repeatedly about his supposed hunt for Eichmann as well as his other Nazi-hunting exploits. He would also concoct outrageous stories about his war years and make false claims about his academic career. There are so many inconsistencies between his three main memoirs and between those memoirs and contemporaneous documents, that it is impossible to establish a reliable narrative from them. Wiesenthal’s scant regard for the truth makes it possible to doubt everything he ever wrote or said.

  112. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:55 am | Permalink

    Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

    Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesmen for the very sizable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..

    Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

    ‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? “I will never know” Wiesel says. “I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?”

    Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

    “In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.”

  113. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 3:58 am | Permalink

    I sent the above note about the lies of Elie Wiesel to an anti-zionist contact in New York, and this is the reply I received:

    ha ha ha !

    Well, here it is –

    “Genetically” speaking I am what is commonly called a “Jew”.

    My last name is “_____”, which was pronounced as “_____” over in the territory onced called “Austrio-Hungaria”.

    On my mother’s side of the of my family I am genetically tied to the “_____” bloodline, which is “Jewish” and has been here in America-Land, i.e. NY, i.e. “Manhattan”, which initially was the Dutch Colony called “New Amsterdam”. In point of fact they WERE “money changers”, ha ha ha !

    Back when “Haarlem” (which is Dutch for “Lovely Meadows”) was pasture farmland.

    So what does all this stuff have to do with the price of potatoes?

    Ha Ha Ha! So glad you asked!

    Throughout my life, I was inculcated with “Jewish Tradition”. My upbringing was notably Christian, but many Bat Mitzvahs, etc, also comprised my life too. During the easter season, having a Passover Dinner with all the rituals was law.

    Whether family members are Orthodox, moderate, or Conservative, or even Rabbis!.. NONE of them spoke of “Death Camps”….”People being thrown alive into Ovens (the so-called Holocaust or “Shoah”), and other utter nonsense. As for Gas Chambers, initially, people laughed at that nonsense.

    In the early 1970′s, there was a parade in Illinois, where the “New Official Holocaust” pronouncements were made. I clearly remember the consternation within my family that these remarks caused. I had many relatives who SURVIVED the Nazi work camps, which was what they were called before this event.

    You have to know that the Orthodox Jew members of my family don’t think that the state of “Israel” should even exist! They await for an Act of God to precipitate the return of the Jews to ” Israel”.

    When they heard of this “new history” about a “Holocaust” they simply went bonkers.

    Many arguments happened and many family ties were broken over this revisionist history.

    Now it is decades later and the divide within my famliy is total and permanent.

    The “new History” is now the “Official History” and we are all worse off because of this fact.

    Soon an “Anti-Hate Law” will be in effect.

    That means that I, a “Genetic jew”, who was raised a Lutheran, will PERHAPS be able to express my thoughts, but WILL be labelled a “Self-Hating Jew”, and probably in need of psych-meds.

    That is the long and the short of it.

    I am Christian, by the way, and believe that Christ came FOR the jews…..as well as all the rest of the peoples on Planet Earth.

    But don’t tell any Jew that..!!

    You will then be an “Anti-Semite”…whatever.

    It is all a crock of shit, and will serve no good purpose, this “revamping” of actual history.

    As for the Irgun and other Jewish Terrorist groups during the “founding of Israel”, older relatives told me of their shock and disgust, when word came out about their activities.

    Once again, whatever.

    Simply puty, we are ALL rapidly “Going to Hell in a Hand-Basket”, much to my dismay. And there seems to be no one that can do anything about that sad fact at all.

    I’d post a video about my thoughts concerning this but I fear the usual indirect and direct physical terror tactics from the ADL, the JDL and other extremist domestic Zionist terror groups.

    Godless Zionists do NOT care about “religious Jews” at all. As for “Genetic jews” like myself, they care even less.

    You have to recall that Zionists brushed off massive deaths of non-Zionist Jews during WWII.

    They were glad these deaths happened because they provided an impetus for Jewish migration into Palestine.

    And there are too many records of their thoughts on this matter to dismiss out of hand.

    that’s it !

    Back to work.

    ________________________________________

    Followup to this received from a professor at Georgia State University:

    Hi George,

    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. This man is telling it like it is. When I was a kid growing up in Brooklyn in the late 1940′s and 1950s, many of the local, small businesses were owned by Jews who had come out of the camps. Candy store, dry cleaners, soda fountain, kosher butcher, podiatrist, oculist. I played with their kids. NEVER, ever, was there any talk of this stuff. In fact, my parents, relatives and the people on my block thought the Nuremberg show trial was just that: a show that was used to justify the crimes we had inflicted on the Germans. I remember going to the movies every Sat as a kid and seeing in the newsreels what we had done to these poor people in the name of “civilization.” I asked my parents where the people who had lived in these burned, flattened cities had gone, and they set about educating me at a very tender age.

    Nuremberg was a state propaganda effort to brainwash us into believing that the Germans deserved what they got. But the only folks who actually believe all that nonsense are the social elites beholden to the tribe.

    Regards -

    ____________

  114. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 4:01 am | Permalink

    http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0199/9901055.html

    Washington Report on Middle East Affairs | January/February 1999

    “A Terrible Fraud” :
    Wiesel Ignores Palestinians
    To the Jerusalem Post, Oct. 9, 1998 (as submitted).

    (from Prof. Daniel McGowan, Professor of Economics at Hobart and William Smith Colleges, Geneva, NY)

    In your Oct. 9 article on Elie Wiesel, the American icon of Holocaust survivors, he is paid a special tribute as a “speaker of truth.” This is the same Elie Wiesel who is continually referred to by Noam Chomsky and others as “a terrible fraud.” What can explain such disparity of opinion?

    Perhaps it is because Wiesel, who has written literally volumes Against Silence, remains silent when it comes to such issues involving Palestinians as land expropriation, torture and abrogation of basic human rights.

    Perhaps it is because Elie Wiesel proclaims with great piety that “the opposite of love is not hate; it is indifference,” while he remains totally indifferent to the inequality and suffering of the Palestinians. Perhaps it is because he enjoys recognition as “one of the first opponents of apartheid” in South Africa, while he remains totally silent and indifferent to the apartheid being practiced today in Israel.

    Perhaps it is because he decries terrorism, yet never apologizes for the terrorism perpetrated by the Irgun at Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948. He refuses even to comment on it. He dismisses this act of terrorism in eight short words in his memoirs, All Rivers Run to the Sea. He remembers the Jewish victims at Kielce, Poland (July 1946) with great anguish, but ignores twice as many Palestinian victims of his own employer at Deir Yassin. The irony is breathtaking.

    It is even more shocking that the world’s best known Holocaust survivor can repeatedly visit Yad Vashem and yet keep silent about the victims of Deir Yassin who lie within his sight 1,400 meters to the north. He bitterly protests when Jewish graves are defaced, but has nothing to say when the cemetery of Deir Yassin is bulldozed. He refuses even to acknowledge repeated requests that he join a group of Jews and non-Jews who wish to build a memorial at Deir Yassin.

    Elie Wiesel may profess modesty and claim he is “not a symbol of anything” but, unfortunately, he has become a symbol of hypocrisy.

    Daniel A. McGowan, Director, Deir Yassin Remembered, Geneva, NY

  115. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 4:09 am | Permalink

    IRONICALLY ENOUGH..

    Ironically enough, the Jewish philosopher Hannah Arendt in her book Eichmann in Jerusalem (1965), courageously points out that ‘Israeli citizens, religious and nonreligious, seem agreed upon the desirability of having a law which prohibits intermarriage.. They are also agreed upon the undesirability of a written constitution in which such a law would
    embarrassingly have to be spelled out.. There certainly was something breathtaking in the naïveté with which the prosecution (in the Eichmann trial) denounced the infamous Nuremberg Laws of 1935, which had prohibited intermarriage and sexual intercourse between Jews and Germans. The better informed among the correspondents were well aware of the irony, but they did not mention it in their reports. This was not the time to tell the Jews what was wrong with the laws and institutions of their own country.’ (p 7). In other words, there is the extreme irony that the Nuremberg Laws were ‘infamous’, but that the legal impediments in Israel with the same objective were (are, even today) never ‘infamous’. ‘From the first (in Israel), the diverse religious sects were kept separate and segregated by the prohibition of civil marriage.’ (Maxim Ghilan, How Israel Lost its Soul (1974), p
    165-6). Exclusionary mechanisms have a dual connotation: when Jews practice them, they are neutral, when others such as Germans do, they are so Evil that our hair stands on end and we literally shiver with the feeling of overwhelming sickening bilious nausea…

  116. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 4:23 am | Permalink

    Despite incredible odds, Irene Weisberg Zisblatt survived the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp during the Holocaust. In The Fifth Diamond, she shares her incredible story, to teach future generations about the past so they can learn for the future

    The Fifth Diamond: The Story of Irene Weisberg Zisblatt
    Irene Weisberg Zisblatt and Gail Ann Webb

    “As a young prisoner in the camps, Irene witnessed and experienced unspeakable cruelty and brutality. She lost her whole family to the gas chambers. She was a “guinea pig” for Dr Josef Mengele, who performed inhumane experiments on her. The last mementoes of her family were the four diamonds given to her by her mother, that she had to keep swallowing over and over so they wouldn’t be confiscated. She walked for two months on a death march while thousands of weakened prisoners dropped dead around her. Through it all, she held onto her hope and faith and, encouraged by the strength of her friend, Sabka, somehow she made it through one of humankind’s darkest eras.

    “Although she swore to tell the world of the atrocities she’d seen, to be a voice for her friends and fellow prisoners, it took her fifty years to get over her fear and shame before she could do so. After taking part in the March of the Living, a walk through the camps culminating in Israel, she opened up and shared her story with the younger generation. She’s been sharing it ever since, speaking around the world, testifying for the Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation and taking part in Steven Spielberg’s Oscar-winning documentary, “The Last Days.”

    Irene’s friend and co-writer, Gail Ann Webb, calls Irene the fifth diamond because, she says, God left the world the fifth diamond, Irene, to tell a story of hope, love, courage…and of survival. A diamond is indestructible, and so is Irene Weisberg Zisblatt.”

  117. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 6:20 am | Permalink

    There is a medical-technical term for the practice of swallowing the terrible zionist BS dished out in the universities and main stream media – its called coprophagia, a euphemism for stool eating.

  118. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    How Many Jews were gassed?

    http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/bnp/84466-90-holocaust-survivors-may-frauds-says-us-veterans-journal-4.html

    Quote:

    For decades the commemorative plaques at the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland proclaimed that the number of Jews murdered in that camp was 4 million; consequently 2 million must have been murdered elsewhere to arrive at the historic figure of 6 million Jews gassed and cremated by the Nazis.

    In 1990 the Polish government, after years of study and research concluded that the number of Jews murdered in Auschwitz had been exaggerated by the communists who had liberated this concentration camp, and that 1.5 million was a more realistic number. The commemorative plaques were replaced with new ones acknowledging this reduced estimate.

    Subsequently this lower figure was further reduced to a generally accepted number of 1.1 million (as per Wikipedia) for a revised total claim of 3.1 million murdered Jews.

    In 2002 the Israeli government is on record as stating that in the year 2000 about 1.1 million holocaust survivors were still alive.

    In 2005 the German government is on record as stating that it was still paying compensation to about 1.5 million holocaust survivors.

    The conflicting data from Israel and Germany may be averaged: (1.1 m + 1.5 m) / 2 = 1.3 million survivors in 2003, to establish a point half-way between the two data points. That puts the number of survivors at 1.3 million 58 years after liberation of the camps.

    The American Journal of Public Health, Dec. 1949, pg 1582, published the mortality rates for various European countries, varying from a low of 8 per thousand to almost 15 per thousand population. Since the camp survivors had been subjected to deprivations, disease, starvation, physical abuse, freezing cold, medical experiments, etc. it is reasonable to conclude that the camp survivors as a group would have a mortality rate at least at the higher level of 15 per thousand, certainly not less or the claims of deprivations would then sound hollow.

    The mortality rate of 15 per thousand may be applied as a multiplier to the Jewish survivor population as follows: P x .985**58 = 1.3 m, where P is the number of survivors in 1945, .985 is the multiplier for a mortality rate of 15 per thousand, meaning that 1000 people x .985 = (1000 – 15) = 985 people survive after one year. After 58 years the original population will have decreased by .985 raised to the 58th power, ie. .985 x .985 x .985 x …. for 58 terms. Then, solving the equation for P, and using the known information as published by the above governments, the calculation shows that: P = (1.3 m / .985**58) = (1.3 m / .416) = 3.124 million survivors in 1945, i.e. slightly more than the number claimed as murdered.

    As author and professor Norman Finkelstein so aptly put it in his book: “With all these holocaust survivors, who did the Nazis kill?”

    Now we know: NOT ONE, as affirmed by those questioning the veracity of the premise of the holocaust.

  119. George's Gravatar George
    December 6, 2011 - 9:38 am | Permalink

    Norman G. Finkelstein, who was then of the City University of New York says:

    ‘ “The Holocaust” is an ideological representation of the Nazi holocaust. Like most ideologies, it bears a connection, if tenuous, with reality. The Holocaust is not an arbitrary, but rather an internally coherent construct. Its central dogmas sustain significant political and class interests. Indeed, The Holocaust has proven to be an indispensable ideological weapon. Through its deployment, one of the world’s most formidable military powers, with a horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a ‘victim’ state, and the most successful ethnic group in the United States has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable benefits accrue to this specious victimhood – in particular, immunity to criticism, however justified. ” (Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry (2000) published by Verso, p 3).

    On page 83 he notes that ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ This means, in plain English, that there is no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors.

    Some further quotes:

    “In an authoritative study, Leonard Dinnerstein reported: Sixty thousand Jews.. walked out of the concentration camps. Within a week more than 20,000 of them had died.”. But ‘As it entered into negotiations with Germany [just two years ago, in 1999], the Holocaust industry demanded compensation for 135,000 still living former (camp inmates).’ (pp125-6)

    On page 127 he further notes ‘If 135,000 former Jewish slave laborers are still alive today, some 600,000 must have survived the war. That’s at least a half-million more than standard estimates.. If Jews only constituted 20% of the surviving camp population and, as the Holocaust industry implies, 600,000 Jewish inmates survived the war, then fully 3 million inmates in total must have survived. By the Holocaust industry’s reckoning, concentration camp conditions couldn’t have been that harsh at all; in fact, one must suppose a remarkably high fertility and remarkably low mortality rate.. If, as the Holocaust industry suggests, many hundreds of thousands of Jews survived, the Final Solution couldn’t have been so efficient after all – exactly what Holocaust deniers argue. (pp127-8). ’

    ‘Both my father and my mother were survivors of the Warsaw ghetto and the Nazi concentration camps.. One of my father’s lifelong friends was a former inmate with him in Auschwitz, a seemingly incorruptible left-wing idealist who on principle refused German compensation after the war. Eventually he became a director of the Israeli Holocaust museum, Yad Vashem. Reluctantly and with genuine disappointment, my father finally admitted that even this man had been corrupted by the Holocaust industry, tailoring his beliefs for power and profit. As the rendering of the Holocaust assumed ever more absurd forms, my mother liked to quote (with intentional irony) Henry Ford: “History is bunk.” (ibid. p7).

    ‘The Holocaust proved to be the perfect weapon for deflecting criticism of Israel’ (ibid p30).

    ‘Much of the literature on Hitler’s Final Solution is worthless as scholarship. Indeed, the field of Holocaust studies is replete with nonsense, if not sheer fraud.’ (p 55).

    ‘Given the nonsense that is turned out daily by the Holocaust industry, the wonder is that there are so few skeptics’. (p 68).

    ‘Annual Days of Remembrance of the Holocaust are a national event. All 50 states sponsor commemorations, often in state legislative chambers.. Seven major Holocaust museums dot the American landscape. The centerpiece of this memorialization is the United States Holocaust museum in Washington.. (This) museum’s annual budget is $50 million, of which $30 million is federally subsidized.’ (p72). (This is in spite of the fact that, as he points out on page 32, per capita Jewish income in the US is almost double that of non-Jews). ‘With a reelection campaign looming, Jimmy Carter initiated the (US Holocaust Museum) project to placate Jewish contributors and voters, galled by the president’s recognition of the “legitimate rights” of Palestinians.’ (p 73).

    And:

    ‘The Holocaust may yet turn out to be the “greatest robbery in the history of mankind”.. The Holocaust industry has clearly gone berserk.’(p 138-9).

  120. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    December 6, 2011 - 9:57 am | Permalink

    @matthew: Is that so? what is the source for this news? I favor Jewish efforts not to intermarry with Gentiles. This is what lead to the imposition of the badge in the first place you know, about 1214 or so, by Pope Innocent III, to combat Jewish seduction of Christians.

  121. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    December 6, 2011 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    Of course the Jews are hypocrites for refusing the legitimacy of endogamy to white-gentiles when they pursue it themselves. If it is true that endogamy is declining among Jews, however, it is not good news for us, because we need to keep our ancestry pools as distinct as possible. The confusion and difficulty that arises in excluding Jews when so-and-so-has-a-nice-jewish-aunt needs to be avoided and minimized as much as possible.

    This is hard in the US where people have a tolerant attitude towards religion and young people are encouraged to couple promiscuously with whomever tickles their fancy. Proximity leads to intermarriage, one way or another.

    The Jews of course are the most successful population at keeping separate from their fellow humans. Because we too now live in an integrated society rather than an ethnostate, we had better study their methods closely. Whether or not we ever have an ethnostate again is not within our power to determine at present. Whether or not each one of us individually chooses a proper mate, is however, entirely without our present capabilities.

  122. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 6, 2011 - 12:39 pm | Permalink

    @George:

    No wonder the tribe is so wealthy, their women defecate diamonds. It’s amazing what people believe; I remember reading an article in the NYT (where else?) about a survivor who was blathering about how da evoil Goimans would feed Jews to a bear they had in a cage. The article ended with him saying something like, “It’s hard to believe but it’s all true.” Yeah, right. If the average goy had a functioning brain he’d immediately disregard that kind of stuff as wartime lies, but since Schlomo tells it, it must be true.

    The quote by Hannnah Arendt is interesting. Before the neocon movement there were quite a few well-known intellectuals like her in the tribe had some semblance of autonomy. Not anymore. Then again she wasn’t exactly the typical tribe member, seeing as how she was ‘getting it” from Mr. Blood and Soil himelf, Martin Heidegger, when he was twice her age.

  123. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 12:58 am | Permalink

    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3372

    Professor Kevin MacDonald: Jews play a “leading role” in promoting multiculturalism in Europe

    In this You Tube video, Barbara Lerner Spectre, who runs a government-funded Jewish study group in Sweden, makes the following remarkable statement—remarkable because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to irrational prejudices or even Muslims who hate Israel. Instead she says that it’s because of the “leading role” played by Jews in the movement toward multiculturalism :

    “I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive..”

  124. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 1:07 am | Permalink

    George Steiner, erstwhile Cambridge professor of English and comparative literature, author of numerous books such as Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky, Language and Silence etc, set out some sobering views in a novel called The Portage to San Cristobal of A.H. (1981). Strangely enough – Dr Steiner is a Jew – he uses his imagination to hypothetically (of all things) ‘give Hitler the chance to defend himself before a Jewish court’, to ‘defend the indefensible’. How on earth can a Cambridge professor, a Jew, in effect defend a man claimed by Jews to be the “greatest embodiment of evil in human history”? What can his argument possibly be?

    In summary [Steiner pp 120-126] permits the accused to give the following defence:

    Point One: “The Nazi race doctrines were but a ‘parody’ of the Jewish doctrine of ‘a chosen people, chosen by God for his own, the only race on earth chosen, exalted, made singular among mankind.. to set a race apart, to hold before it a promised land.’

    Point Two: “The Jew’s addiction to [his version of] the ideal.. It is no accident that Marx and his minions were Jews, that the congregations of Bolshevism – Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, Kamenev, the whole fanatic, murderous pack – were of Israel..”
    [Chaim Bermant in his book The Jews devotes a chapter to this aspect of Communism that is hardly generally known. The author, himself Jewish, writes with a certain authority and familiarity concerning his subject and can hardly be accused of the charge of 'anti-Semitism' which is usually leveled at anyone who offers any criticism (no matter how justified) of Jews. "No people is so averse to change yet none in recent times has dissipated more of its energy on revolution.. Although Jews formed less than five percent of Russia's population, they formed more than fifty percent of its revolutionaries..
    "It must be added that most of the leading revolutionaries who convulsed Europe in the final decades of the last century and the first decades of this one, stemmed from prosperous Jewish families.. They were perhaps typified by the father of revolution, Karl Marx.. Thus when, after the chaos of World War I, revolutions broke out all over Europe, Jews were everywhere at the helm; Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev and Zinoviev in Russia, Bela Kun in Hungary, Kurt Eisner in Bavaria, and, most improbable of all, Rosa Luxemburg in Berlin.
    "To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews and included Litvinov (real name Wallach), Liadov (Mandelshtam), Shklovsky, Saltz, Gusev (Drabkin), Zemliachka (Salkind), Helena Rozmirovich, Serafima Gopner, Yaroslavsky (Gubelman), Yaklovlev (Epstein), Riaznov (Goldendach), Uritsky and Larin. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews."]

    Point Three: “You have exaggerated. Grossly. Hysterically. What were Rotterdam or Coventry compared to Dresden and Hiroshima? Did I invent the camps? Ask the Boers.. To whom did you hand over millions, tens of millions of men and women from Prague to the Baltic? What did [Solzhenitsyn] say? That Stalin had slaughtered thirty million. I was a man of a murderous time, but a small man compared to him. That he perfected genocide [later, of the kulaks] when I was still a nameless scribbler in Munich. My boys used their fists and their whips. I won¡¦t deny it. The times stank of hunger and blood. But when a man spat out the truth they would stop their fun. Stalin’s torturers worked for the pleasure of the thing. To make men befoul themselves, to obtain confessions that are lies, insanities, obscene jokes. The truth only made them more bestial. It is not I who assert these things: it is your own Jewish survivors, your historians, the sage of the Gulag. Who, then was the great destroyer, whose blood-lust the more implacable? Stalin’s or mine? Our terrors were a village carnival compared to his. Our camps covered absurd acres; he had strung wire and death-pits around a continent. Yet Stalin died in bed, and yet you hunt me down like a rabid dog..”

    Point Four: “Zionism was shaped in the image of German nationalism.. The Holocaust gave you the courage of injustice, to drive the Arab out of his home, out of his field, because he was without resource, because he was in your way, knowing that those you had driven out were rotting in refugee camps, not ten miles away, buried alive in despair and lunatic dreams of vengeance.. You used the Holocaust to create Israel.. Should you not honour me who have made your long, vacuous dream of Zion a reality?”

    Why is anti-Palestinianism, unquestionably a form of anti-Semitism, not “politically incorrect”? As various commentators have been pointing out for more than half a century, the Palestinians have been made to pay for the alleged Holocaust over this extended period, and are still doing so.

    The people behind this are not stupid or ignorant – the New York media-political-manipulating uber-intelligentsia have the world and its information at their fingertips.

    Is this fair or ethical or moral or just? Is it logical or even reasonable? Is it moral?
    Does it matter? Does world peace matter? Does absolutely Anything matter?

  125. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 1:21 am | Permalink

    Quote from way back in 2007:

    The New York Sun, a newspaper published by Ronald Weintraub and edited by Seth Lipsky, and known for its pro-Israel bias, carried an article recently on the obeisance made by Hillary Clinton to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in New York, which might almost be called a pledge of allegiance to Israel. Quoth the Sun’s staff reporter, Jill Gardiner:

    “A Democratic political consultant who worked on President Clinton’s re-election campaign, Hank Sheinkopf, noted that the AIPAC dinner always draws a parade of politicians.

    ‘New York is the ATM for American politicians. Large amounts of money come from the Jewish community,’ he said. ‘If you’re running for president and you want dollars from that group, you need to show that you’re interested in the issue that matters most to them.’

    Mrs. Clinton, who has opted out of the public campaign financing system, has tapped into the circuit of influential Jewish donors for years and has strong support in the community. A spokesman for AIPAC, Joshua Block, said yesterday that the senator and former first lady has ‘an extremely consistent and strong record of support on issues that are important to the pro-Israel community.’”

    Hillary apparently sang the song that everyone at AIPAC loves to hear, for later in the Sun’s article, we read, “While Mr. Edwards and Mrs. Clinton have different positions on how to deal with the Iraq war, each has used harsh language on Iran.”

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  126. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 2:31 am | Permalink

    Demything Zion – Professor Arthur Butz

    Arthur Butz MSc (MIT), PhD (Minnesota), professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Northwestern University in Illinois, wrote a groundbreaking technical and historical analysis and refutation in his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (1977).

    He gives a wonderful example of the seemingly endless contradictions and ironies evident throughout the entire ‘official’ historiography of the Holocaust.

    He quotes Martin Gilbert’s ‘long and copiously annotated study’ Auschwitz and the Allies:

    ‘Between May 1942 and June 1944, almost none of the messages reaching the west had referred to Auschwitz as the destination of Jewish deportees, or as a killing centre. Nor had the name of Auschwitz made any impression on those who were building up what they believed to be an increasingly comprehensive picture of the fate of the Jews.’ (p 340).

    He compares this with the contention of Walter Lacquer in his ‘shorter but also copiously annotated study’ called The Terrible Secret (1980). Lacquer explains that mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed, noting that Auschwitz was a ‘veritable archipelago’, that ‘Auschwitz inmates.. were, in fact, dispersed all over Silesia, and.. met with thousands of people’, that ‘hundreds of civilian employees .. worked at Auschwitz’, and that ‘journalists travelled in the General Government [German-controlled Poland] and were bound to hear’, etc. (Lacquer p22-25).

    Butz says, ‘I have no quarrel with such observations, as I have made them myself, and on the basis of essentially the same considerations [Butz (1977) pp87f, 92ff].. ..Now the reader of Gilbert, Lacquer and Butz can make a very simple determination. He is being told that (a) in the period May 1942 to June 1944, those interested in such matters had no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz and (b) mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed from the world for any significant length of time. The reader.. should assume both claims to be true: There was no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz during the relevant period, and mass gassings could not have been kept secret. Therefore, there were no mass exterminations at Auschwitz.’ (Butz, Context and Perspective in the ‘Holocaust’ Controversy, in the Journal of Historical Review Winter 1982 pp385-386.).

  127. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 2:39 am | Permalink

    WW2 Allied vs German bombing philosophies compared:

    One way of comparing the British and American philosophies concerning their attacks (primarily on civilian targets, using incendiaries to burn people alive, including women and children) on German cities with the ‘quintessentially-evil’ Nazi tactics (the Germans are alleged to have euthanized their victims by gassing before burning them, while the US/UK, presumably in the interests of economy, omitted this step) is to compare the nature of bomber designs of the Allies with those of the Germans. The maximum bomb loads and number of engines make an interesting and revealing comparison.

    Bomber name – Max bomb load (No. of engines)

    WW2 German bombers

    Dornier Do.215 – 2,200lbs (2)

    Heinkel He.111 – 4,400lbs (2)

    Junkers Ju.88 – 4,190lbs (2)

    WW2 British bombers

    Avro Lancaster – 22,000lbs (4)

    HandleyPage Halifax – 13,000lbs (4)

    Short Stirling – 14,000lbs (4)

    WW2 American bombers

    Boeing Flying Fortress – 9,600lbs (4)

    Consolidated Liberator – 12,800lbs (4)

    Being Superfortress – 20,000lbs (4)

  128. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 7, 2011 - 9:47 am | Permalink

    @George:
    Thank you for the introduction to George Steiner. I look forward to reading the book. Sounds fascinating.

  129. Reggie Seradly's Gravatar Reggie Seradly
    December 7, 2011 - 10:03 am | Permalink

    “Whites who are concerned about the future of their race and about retaining their culture are considered moral reprobates—psychiatric cases not fit to participate in civilized political discourse”

    That comment is not just figurative but very much literally true. I was myself almost subjected to that treatment, even though I was not truly a nationalist yet (I was a anti-globalist socialist). Just out of suspicion I was a “nazi”, I nearly received an official, medical diagnosis of being “delusional”.

  130. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Winston Churchill – war criminal

    A major awkwardness concerning Churchill’s conduct of World War II lies in the secret British policy of so-called ‘area bombing’, adopted early in 1942 and outlined by (Lord) CP Snow in the 1960 Godkin Lectures at Harvard University (published in his book Science and Government, Oxford University Press 1961). Snow had an insider’s view of the development of this policy. He outlines how the sinister Professor FA Lindemann (later to become Lord Cherwell, Churchill’s chief scientific adviser), persuaded the British Cabinet to adopt the policy of directing bombing campaigns primarily against German working-class housing. ‘Middle-class houses have too much space around them, and so are bound to waste bombs; factories and “military objectives” had long since been forgotten, except in official bulletins, since they were much too difficult to find and hit’ (p 48). Snow asks, ‘What will people of the future think of us? Will they say.. we were wolves with the minds of men? Will they think that we had resigned our humanity? They will have the right.’ (p 49). Fortunately, Snow needn’t have worried. There have been and remain such powerful vested interests committed to preserving the myths of World War II that even the history departments of universities have in most cases assisted with the cover-up.

    The respected British military historian Martin Middlebrook says, ‘In some ways, Area Bombing was a three-year period of deceit practiced upon the British public and on world opinion. It was felt to be necessary that the exact nature of R.A.F. bombing should not be revealed. It could not be concealed that German cities were being hit hard, and that residential areas in those cities were receiving many of the bombs, but the impression was usually given that industry was the main target and that any bombing of workers’ housing areas was an unavoidable necessity. Charges of ‘indiscriminate bombing’ were consistently denied.. The deceit lay in the concealment of the fact that the areas being most heavily bombed were nearly always either city centres or densely populated residential areas, which rarely contained any industry.. The vital links in the dissemination of this view were the press and the radio upon which the public depended for all wartime news..
    Neutral reports [of the campaign against the residential areas of the German city of Hamburg, for example] that 20,000 or 30,000 people had been killed were dismissed as ‘Nazi-inspired stories’.. The military historian Sir Basil Liddell Hart [after the Thousand Bomber Raid on Cologne with its claim of so many acres of city destroyed] wrote: “It will be ironical if the defenders of civilization depend for victory upon the most barbaric and unskilled way of winning a war that the modern world has seen.” ‘ (Middlebrook, The Battle of Hamburg (1980) pp 343-4]. In his foreword, Middlebrook notes ‘I am likely to be criticized.. for choosing a series of raids which produced such extremes of horror on the ground. But I must point out that a large proportion of the raids carried out by R.A.F. Bomber Command in the Second World War were devoted to this type of bombing. What happened at Hamburg was when Bomber Command ‘got everything right’ (p 12). In reality many of these raids consisted of initial attacks using high explosive bombs to break up the buildings, followed with attacks using thousands of incendiary bombs to set alight all the fabrics, furnishing and upholstery exposed by the explosives. In this way firestorms were created under the right conditions which burned tens of thousands of people alive, especially the women and children at home while the men were at the front.

    Churchill himself ordered the firebomb raid on the city of Dresden (David Irving The Destruction of Dresden (1966) pp. 96-100), Alexander McKee Dresden 1945 (1982) p 300, 306, 310) in the last months of the war, producing the most spectacular deliberate firestorm in the history of Europe. This action was probably the major war crime committed in Europe ­ Dresden was not in any way a military target, and was packed with refugees fleeing the advancing Russians, mainly women and children and the elderly who were unfit to fight. It is therefore understandable that it has been necessary to distract attention away from this viciously and appallingly barbaric act by fabricating war crimes afterwards and attributing them to the other side, a procedure that is finally starting to come unstuck.

    The Bush-Blair attack on Iraq at the behest of Zionists in the US administration such as Paul Wolfowitz has demonstrated before a world audience the lies that can be used to start wars, and in fact usually do.

    The transparency and scale of Bush Administration lies, together with the support given to the lies by a diverse array of other governments, is producing a revulsion for professional politicians and their handlers and spin doctors and sponsors.

  131. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Dirty Little Secrets – the hidden, awkward origins of World War 2 – the unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events

    Just consider the following:

    · Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying “Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war”. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).

    · Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says “Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.” (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.)

    · Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, “the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.” (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).

    · Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).

    Etc etc etc etc – more detail at http://www.rense.com/general92/dirty.htm

  132. George's Gravatar George
    December 7, 2011 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki occurred on August 6 and 9 1945, in spite of the fact that Japan had signalled her willingness to capitulate some weeks previously (Robert Junck Brighter than a Thousand Suns (1958) pp. 189-191, Martin J Sherwin A World Destroyed (1975) pp. 235-237).

    To summarize the sequence of the important dates concerning the atomic bombing:

    Mid-July 1945: Japanese government communicates to US government their willingness to negotiate capitulation;
    August 6 1945: US drops atom bomb on Hiroshima;
    August 8 1945: US signs the ‘London Charter’, or Charter of the International Military Tribunal defining war crimes, including Principle 6 (b) ‘wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.’
    August 9 1945: US drops atom bomb on Nagasaki.

    With reference to the atomic bomb, Admiral William Leahy – Chief of Staff to both Roosevelt and Truman – commented, ‘My own feeling was that, in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Age. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.’ (Liddell Hart, History of the Second World War (1970) p725-6, JFC Fuller, The Decisive Battles of the Western World, 1792-1945 (1970) p584).

    Awkwardly enough, for the sake of judicial impartiality, Churchill and Truman should themselves have been executed at Nuremberg for these undoubted crimes. In addition to finding ways to justify their own conduct, Britain and the US also needed to distract attention from two other aspects.

    There were the major crimes committed against humanity by their ally the Soviet Union (including the Katyn-related cold-blooded massacres of 15,000 Polish officers). There was the characteristic decision of Franklin Roosevelt and his New York advisors to hand over Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union at the Yalta conference. This was in spite of Stalin’s pre-war record of show trials, liquidation of his enemies in the armed services and his outstanding crime against humanity, the ‘collectivization of the kulaks’. This caused the deaths of millions of Stalin’s own citizens, not in war but in a time of peace, through hunger and police action. The US, through its support of the Soviet Union during the war, effectively assisted, set up and established its own powerful adversary for the 40-year-long Cold War with the associated arms race and third-world proxy wars. This was in spite of Stalin’s history, well known to both the US and UK governments before the war began.

    The role of the ‘Holocaust’ has been absolutely and critically essential to distract attention away from these issues and preserve (ironically enough) the racist myth of an ethical war fought by the good clean cowboys against the congenitally and incorrigibly evil, filthy injuns. The Holocaust allegation has been not only the ‘hoax of the twentieth century’ [Professor Arthur Butz of Northwestern University in The Hoax of the Twentieth Century] or ‘the greatest robbery in the history of mankind’ [Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry, p 139] but also, ironically enough, a fundamentally and radically racist blood libel by the most stridently anti-racist people in the entire world.

    For example at Nuremberg (understandably, in view of Hiroshima and Dresden etc) the absolutely fundamental legal principle of tu quo que was denied. ‘In the course of the trial, the Tribunal showed itself to be very receptive to prosecution pleas that tu quo que arguments (i.e., that the Allies had committed the same acts as the defendants) should be inadmissible.’ (Bradley F Smith Reaching Judgement at Nuremberg (1977) p 102). During the Nuremberg Trial the German general Alfred Jodl petitioned for certain documents related to wartime crimes committed by the Allies. ‘This request set off an amazing flurry of excitement among the prosecutors and on October 30, Jackson and Maxwell Fyfe (US and British prosecutors) had a worried discussion on how to deal with this incident, which they held to be the beginning of the long-dreaded Nazi ‘attack on the prosecution’. The two prosecutors agreed that the best way to deal with Jodl’s request and any other such ‘attacks’ was for each prosecutor to narrow the case as much as possible so that Allied actions would not be touched upon and then to urge rejection of all defense petitions like Jodl’s on the grounds that they were not relevant to the case.’ (Smith p 210.) Needless to say Jodl amongst others was executed by hanging.

    The Eichmann trial conducted by the state of Israel is interesting in the same way. Once again the judges were not neutral, belonging to the same party as the accusers. They were entirely subordinate and subject to political pressure to provide justification for the establishment of the Israeli State on somebody else’s territory. Hannah Arendt says

    ‘German witnesses for the defence were excluded from the outset, since they would have exposed themselves to arrest and prosecution in Israel under the same law as that under which Eichmann was tried.’ (p 129); ‘It quickly turned out that Israel was the only country in the world where defence witnesses could not be heard, and where certain witnesses for the prosecution could not be cross-examined by the defence. And this was all the more serious as the accused and his lawyer were indeed not ‘in a position to obtain their own defence documents’.’ (p 220-221); ‘Israeli legal procedure ran counter to Continental procedure – to which Eichmann, because of his national origin, was entitled – in that it required the defendant to provide the evidence for his defence, and this the accused had been unable to do because neither witnesses nor defence documents were available in Israel.’ (p248). Just why was all this legal illegality and judicial irregularity necessary, we might ask?

    Needless to say, Eichmann was hanged.

  133. omop's Gravatar omop
    December 8, 2011 - 3:18 pm | Permalink

    The “reality” of the jews, regardless of the country or nation they live is the message of Judaism. Its teachings are not meant for all people. Its morality is not universal. Judaism is a religion for one particular people. The Jewish religion is based not on a relationship between God and humanity, but rather on a “covenant,” or contract, between God and a “chosen” people — the community known as the Jews, the Jewish People, the Israelites, the Hebrews, or the “People of Israel.” They are THE PEOPLE… the non-jews are basically animals

  134. mark's Gravatar mark
    December 8, 2011 - 5:14 pm | Permalink

    There’s a shitstorm starting over at Susan Walsh’s website, HookingUpSmart, about Jewish influence. We need some heavy hitters over there to hit some home runs. It’s actually on a thread that started about male sexuality.

    The Truth About Male Sexuality
    http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/12/02/whatguyswant/the-truth-about-male-sexuality/ – comment-79792

    You’ll have to scroll down quite a bit. My post is at #1698.

    Let’s give ‘em hell!

    mark

  135. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 11, 2011 - 8:33 pm | Permalink

    On November 10, 2011 – the UN Watch website blasted Richard Falk for posting a hilarious poem in reponse to Israel-Firster Alan Dershowitz’s slanderous article in Zeoconservative mouthpiece, New Republic. Alan Dershowitz had criticized both Richard Falk and John J. Mearsheimer for endorsing Israel-born British author Gilad Atzmon’s book The Wondering Who.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/richard-falk-chased-by-pro-israel-un-watch-2/

  136. mr_bellows's Gravatar mr_bellows
    December 13, 2011 - 11:40 am | Permalink

    sounds like crazy nazi eugenics stuff to me. It does seem that jews + racial purity = nazi rhetoric. creepy stuff…weird…out dated thinking, needing to be lost in the dust bin of history.

  137. my friends's Gravatar my friends
    December 13, 2011 - 1:29 pm | Permalink

    We already know that zionists are racist. No news there. We already know that there is a double standard in the media. No news there. The real reason they want the American Jew to go to Israel is to help them supplant all the brown people who live there, and to bring their American money to spend. If you really want to piss off one of these demons just tell them that you feel sorry for them because their ancestors were too concerned with counting their silver pieces to recognize their messiah. They hate that. It really gets them going. Or if that doesn’t work, ask them why they are always acting like infants who throw temper tantrums when they don’t get their way. The most irratinoal people in the world to negotiate with know why people don’t like them, so they invent a myth about the goyim being racist, and call anyone who doesn’t agree with them or question their world view as “anti-semitic.” I’d rather be an anti-semetic American than an anti-American American. Long live the Goyim, Jesus said the meek shall inherit the Earth. Was he talking about Switzerland? France? Palestinians? Who knows.

  138. Mathew's Gravatar Mathew
    December 16, 2011 - 5:44 pm | Permalink

    The Jewish Diaspora is yet another myth.
    http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/

    Few if any books of the Hebrew Bible date from before the 4th-century BC (while many may be later still).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Minimalism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Kenyon-

    Myths & Bible fairy stories & prophecies are believed by
    dumbed down people who believe in a Sky Wizard .

    Certain people think, believe & act on the premise that they are their “creator’s” favourite people , all their affairs are guided by the Sky Wizard & therefore they can do no wrong.

    Jews think, believe & act on the premise that they are the creator’s favourite people & all their agendas are guided by him/her/it & therefore they can do no wrong.

    The Christians ( Jews for Jesus) have backed Zionism before it was ever invented.
    Remember how Christian Crusaders were promised forgiveness for ALL past & future sins ?????
    The “Temple of Solomon & David” the Diaspora & the Exodus ais ALL fictition.
    Few if any books of the Hebrew Bible date from before the 4th-century BC (while many may be later still).
    http://giwersworld.org/history.phtml

    Israel represents the greatest threat to world peace & is the only country that doesn’t want a Nuclear Free Middle East..

  139. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 18, 2011 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

    the ADL and several Jewish groups have slammed Rep. Allen West (R-FL) for saying: “If Joesph Goebbels was around, he would be very proud of the Democratic Party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine. Let’s be honest, you know, some of the people in the media are complicit with this an enabling them to get the type of message out“.

    Abe Foxman, national director ADL, in a letter to Rep. Allen West has demanded him to apologies for his words before they cause further harm. “It’s high time to excise analogies to Nazi and Hitler from the political vocabulary. It doesn’t serve us as Americans, and cheapen our political discourse,” wrote Foxman of ‘double standards’.

    Paul Joesph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister, portrayed as ‘Jew hater’ – had in fact some interesting family connections with the Jews. Joesph Goebbels’ father, Fritz Goebbel, had a very dear Jewish friend, Dr. Josef Joseph, who acted as godfather for the young Goebbels. Paul Goebbels’ middle name may had been to honor his godfather. Goebbels’ favorite professor at Heidelberg was Friedrich Gundolf, who was Jewish. Goebbels’ long-time girlfriend, Else Janke, was daughter of a Jewish mother. Goebbels married Magda Quandt whose stepfather, Friedländer, was Jewish.

    Until then – Goebbels had no anti-Semitic characteristics. However, things changed once Goebbel found out that Magda was having affair with a Jew named Victor Chaim Arlosoroff. Arlosoroff, subsequently became an important Zionist figure. After Hitler came to power, he was the Zionist representative in the negotiations with the new Nazi government that resulted in the Haavara (Transfer) agreement, whereby German Jews could emigrate to Palestine with their property. In June 1933 Arlosoroff was murdered in Tel Aviv by members of the Jabotinsky faction of the Zionist movement……..

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/goebbels-analogy-outrages-jewish-groups/

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