Negroid immigration in Holland: Antilleans and Somalis compared

Peter Stuyvesant


Until the 1970s there was no significant Negro presence in Holland. In the 1970s the first wave came from Surinam, in the 1980s the second wave from the Antilles and in the 1990s the third wave from Somalia. Since elites in the media and academic world never tire of saying that mass immigration is beneficial to the receiving country, it is good to put this thesis to the test using publicly available government sources and applying it to Negro migration. As the government uses regions of origin instead of ethnicity, we leave Surinamese out, because this group is composed of Whites, Blacks and Hindus. It is more interesting to use Antilleans and Somalis, because they are ethnically pure groups and they are both Negroid. These groups are particularly interesting because the Antilleans are descendants of African slaves under the White colonial regime. It will come as no surprise that it is common in the media and among intellectuals to claim that the reason for the backwardness of the Antilleans is that they were enslaved by Whites.  On the other hand, this argument fails to apply to the Somalis because they were not brought as slaves from Africa.

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Plans, numbers and problems

In 2010 the research centre of Erasmus University of Rotterdam produced a report at the request of the Dutch government on the effects of public investment on the empowerment of Antillean communities between 2005 and 2008. A total of 44 million Euros were spent, more than was spent on any other minority group with problems, even though the Antillean community is relatively small (141,000 in 2011). The local projects did not yield any positive results, and in some cases the situation was even worse than before government intervention. The main problems are broken families, school dropout, unemployment, and criminality. Half of the Antilleans grow up with one parent (usually the mother) according to the Yearly Report on Integration of 2009 (p. 14). The school drop-out rate among Antilleans is almost half (p. 9). The crime rate is 6 times higher among Antilleans than among the native Dutch (page 10). One of the consequences is that in 2008 there were 14 times more Antilleans in jail than native Dutch if the figures are corrected to reflect their ratio of the population. The overrepresentation of the Antilleans in jail compared to their crime rate is mainly the result of the brutal violence that is a hallmark of Antillean criminals.

Somalis don’t fare any better than their Black brethren from the Caribbean. The prospect of Somalis in Holland is so bleak that the integration report mentioned above tells us that the only bright spot is that there are not so many of them (!!). (There were approximately 22,000 in 2009.) An astonishing 58% grow up with only one parent (p. 14). The school drop-out rate is so high that only 23% have a diploma of secondary education—a major factor in the high Somali unemployment rate. Forty percent of Somali males aged 15–64 have no job and as a result they are registered as recipients of social welfare. The heavy reliance of broken families on social welfare is illustrated by the fact that 46% of Somali women rely on welfare. Somalis are also not entrepreneurs, unlike the overseas Chinese, 13.4% of whom are entrepreneurs. The Somali rate of entrepreneurship (0.8%) is 9 times lower than that of native Dutch. According to the 2011 report Somalis in Holland, more than half of the Somalis (58%) have no education beyond primary level, which in effect means no education at all (p. 25).

Behavior, criminality and IQ

There has been a lot of investigation into the root causes of the failure of Negroid communities to achieve economic success. Some relate criminality to culture, religion or social-economic deprivation. Only lately there have been some reports in the media about the connection between intelligence and criminality. The daily newspaper Sp!ts of 14 January 2011 reported an investigation of the Dutch psychiatrist David Vinkers, a member of the Dutch Institute for Forensic Psychiatry, who investigated no less than 249 cases of Antillean criminality and requested an IQ test for all criminals. The outcome was that more than half had an IQ of less than 85, indicating that their average IQ is below that of American Blacks and implying that a substantial percentage are in the retarded range for Whites (i.e., IQ < 70). (In Holland, an IQ between 70 and 85 is considered mildly retarded and such people are eligible for government healthcare benefits [see here, p. 4).) A glance at the world map with the average IQ per country indicates that this level of IQ is normal in among Blacks in the Caribbean, with average IQ’s ranging between 80 and 85, but significantly lower for Haiti, presumably because Haitians have relatively little admixture with Whites. Vinkers has written an article in the Dutch Journal of Psychiatry in which he points out that in Holland more Antilleans are considered incompetent when facing charges of crime because of mental retardation than in the Antilles.

This story of applying different levels for retardation because of significant difference in IQ reminds me of an anecdote of a Somali man who was prevented from being repatriated to Somalia because he was considered retarded and therefore incompetent to go back by himself. The Somali in question, Fahdi Hassan Mohamed (24 years old in 2010), had an IQ of 74, in the mildly mentally retarded range according to Dutch standards. However, in Somalia with its average IQ of 68, this man would be considered above average.

The irony is that although Somalis were not enslaved in contemporary history, they have a lower average IQ than the enslaved Antilleans—thereby demolishing the slavery-causes-low-IQ argument. The groups are far more similar than different: both groups show the same Negroid culture of absent fathers, contempt for education, and a preference of criminality and idleness over work. They are neither willing nor able to make a contribution for the common welfare of Western countries. This should be a warning for advocates of Sub-Saharan (and Caribbean) immigration in America and Europe.

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62 Comments to "Negroid immigration in Holland: Antilleans and Somalis compared"

  1. glimmande's Gravatar glimmande
    December 24, 2011 - 5:57 pm | Permalink

    It’s the same story in Sweden with regards to the Somalis. They are radically underperforming compared to pretty much any other ethnic group (eastern european gypsies comes close). Down below is a link to a swedish newspaper that sums up our experience (google translate will come handy):

    http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1.115816-28-10-07-goteborgs-somalier-ett-folk-i-kris

    Anyway, the reason that the somalis have a enormous divorce rate in Sweden is due to the welfare system where they can collect more payouts as single moms and if the man and woman on paper have different addresses. Fake of course. They come from a pretty intolerant clan culture and the divorce is only according to swedish law and not according to the imam/koran based society they live in.

    I would assume it’s the same in Holland. We have close to 30000 somalis today in Sweden which give us a per capita enrichment of about twice the level in Holland.

    It’s somewhat scary and the economic right have started to use their presence as an excuse to smash union rights and lower wages (with the argument that mechanization and high wages has to go if we ever are being able to integrate our new swedes into society and employment).

  2. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    December 23, 2011 - 9:42 pm | Permalink

    @hapax: That is so true Hapax, but how on Earth are we going to round up all these poor beings and return them? I can only imagine such a thing happening after some terrible conflagration has been settled and in ‘our’ favor.

  3. hapax's Gravatar hapax
    December 23, 2011 - 8:01 pm | Permalink

    While I naturally and wholeheartedly agree that Somalis – amongst others – need to be returned to their countries as a matter of urgent necessity (they don’t look very happy in the freezing weather, for one thing), I would just observe that Somalis are not really “Negroid” but Cushitic, and comparisons with Antilleans should be made with that awareness. Also, a country such as Somalia that has been repeatedly warred over by foreign powers, has had its traditional elites and normal sane people murdered by Commies, has been filled with weaponry of every kind and then been handed over to gang rule and had a further million killed in the resultant anarchy isn’t going to produce a thriving intellectual life or literary culture, is it?

    The feeble academic and intellectual performance of Somalis is also a result of the abolition of traditional scripts (both Arabic and native) to write Somali and their replacement by Roman script in 1972. This was a deliberate plan of the Zio-Communist Siad Barre regime, supported of course by the Soviets, to cut Somalis off from their own literary heritage (a method of control and subversion practiced by the Soviets throughout Central Asia).

    Generally speaking, the best way of preventing Europe and America from being swamped by ignorant Somalis and their ilk is to destroy Wall St., the City of London and Tel Aviv in order to eliminate the scam financial system that enslaves and wrecks countries like Somalia forcing them to unload their surplus population on the unsuspecting West. Ignorant, desperate, stupid, violent and visible minorities are of course perfect for misdirecting popular wrath in White countries from the bankster villains actually responsible.

  4. December 21, 2011 - 10:19 pm | Permalink

    @Balder: @fender;
    I have reminded my children that they are the guardians of unknown hundreds of generations. I have also taught them that they need to separate what is taught in school from the truth. They are not the same, and are not the same for a reason. Similarly, the anti racism and “hate” speech crowd will use those terms to label non-acceptance as “hate” or anti social behaviour, and it is a form of bullying. Stand your ground.

    With respect to the miscegenation, I have stated flat out to all, that it is genocide. I do not specify black, white, red, or yellow. The spawn of these race mixing fornicators have broken the genetic heritage of each parent. It is neither Negro nor Caucasian, Caucasian nor Oriental, Negro nor Oriental, etc. It is genocide.

    Both of them have a preference of avoiding non-whites.

  5. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 21, 2011 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    @sylvie:

    “But more people have become suspicious of the narrative due to the persecution of revisionists and gag laws – which are moral considerations – than through calculations of cremation capacities and the chemistry of Zyklon-B.”

    Maybe so, but laws against revisionism don’t themselves refute the more outrageous aspects of Holocaustianity, only science and reason do. In Ukraine laws against Holodomor denial were proposed; that certainly does not mean the Holodomor never happened, because there are hundreds of mass graves in Ukraine- not to mention Stalin’s own paperwork- that prove it happened.

    When it comes to the Holocaust, literally all they have are wild survivor stories and “confessions” that were tortured out of German prisoners. Everything else- the paperwork, arm tattoos, piles of clothing, etc.- only proves that Jews were put into labor camps. There’s nothing anywhere that even hints at mass exterminations.

    The tribe does have a history of exagerrating its suffering. They claimed that the big bad evil Romans murdered billions of them. They claimed that the big bad evil Ukrainians murdered 500,000 of them during the Khmelnytsky Uprising when modern historians agree it’s only around 10,000 or so, maybe even less.

    There’s no question that eventually the official number dead during the Holocaust will be reduced to less than a million, and through starvation and disease, not some kind of conspiracy involving mass extermination. And of course the tribe will start issuing excuse after excuse and blather on about how they were “taken” as well by the stories. And of course, the dumb, gullible, naive, kindly White goy will nod and smile and forgive them, and let the whole thing slide, as they always do.

  6. sladek's Gravatar sladek
    December 21, 2011 - 8:44 pm | Permalink

    @Less IQ than a Jew:

    The WASP tribe, twice destroying Europe’s finest culture, now has a chief descending from cannibals…

    Oh history, thy revenge is cruel !

  7. Less IQ than a Jew's Gravatar Less IQ than a Jew
    December 21, 2011 - 6:23 pm | Permalink

    In the late nineteenth century cannibalism was almost everywhere in the Congo Basin.
    http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/congo1.html Cannibalism in the African Congo
    Does it make sense that genetic propensities influence behavior? Do black Africans have a greater genetic propensity to violence and cannibalism than Europeans and Asians? Do Jews have a greater genetic propensity to manipulation and deception than other peoples? How can the MSM be defeated?

  8. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 21, 2011 - 9:54 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    No, the best way to combat their arguments is through scientific reasoning.

    I think the distinction between moral and scientific arguments is somewhat simplistic. There is a level in between, I would call it “technical/logical”, neither purely scientific nor moral.

    We have to fight back at all levels, relying on science alone to get our message across is naive since the majority is not receptive to science and the tribe will always find pseudo-scientists to refute your “irrefutable reasoning”.

    Look at the “Holocaust”.

    I am sure you are familiar with the debate and you will probably agree that the revisionist´s arguments are far more scientific than the essentially memory based, moral arguments of the tribe.

    But more people have become suspicious of the narrative due to the persecution of revisionists and gag laws – which are moral considerations – than through calculations of cremation capacities and the chemistry of Zyklon-B.

  9. Tony T's Gravatar Tony T
    December 21, 2011 - 7:32 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Jason , you don’t seem to realise that most of Western politics is a sham . Obama will win because the people that control America want it that way . Simple my man . Any genuine candidate with a chance to unseat the black puppet will be cut down with lies ,propaganda and big brother speak( or a bullet to the head) . What happened to Donald Trump ? He was obviously told to step away OR ELSE . He decided to live .
    I believe the USA is now under the control of a quasi religious fanatical group of Jewish & Mason origin pushing the final days till their NWO . The idiots that dance around wanting to be ‘President’ are just another sick version of Hollywood .
    Until the American People openly acknowledge that the system is corrupt & broken ,twisted beyond all recognition no real solution is available.
    Voting for either the Demo’s or the Repo’s is perpetuating the lie , the illusion . If the crooks that run America want a dictatorship make them do it openly and take away their cover.

    Vote AP3 .

  10. December 21, 2011 - 3:26 am | Permalink

    @fender: “The argument that by miscegenating with a black man, a white woman has thrown away 10,000 years of genetic progress is a FAR more powerful and hard-hitting argument than a simple “miscegenation is evil because white people are special” kind of thing. ”

    Very true. For example the ideas of Helmuth Nyborg seem to attract a lot of interest in Denmark, where racialist attitudes are not mainstream, not even within the anti-immigration movement. Many reactions, and sometimes lack of reactions, seem to show that also people with influence are taking his warnings against a fatal dumbing down seriously, just like Sarrazin’s similar arguments were taken seriously by many people, even if many would not say so publicly. Even globalists capitalists seem to understand that their interests will be harmed in the long run by a decline of general intelligence.

    While Nyborg is regularly attacked by left wingers and media, the Danish public service TV regularly broadcasts programs presented by another equally politically incorrect researcher; Lone Frank, who often concerns herself with similar matters as Nyborg; heredity, intelligence, science and opposition to the Frankfurt School of political correctness. In one of her programs, she also explained in great depth why scientific research in these areas has been taboo since WWII; the much hyped holocaust, and the policies of National Socialist Germany. So slowly the scientific approach is making progress without much public controversy.

  11. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 21, 2011 - 2:42 am | Permalink

    @Bluerose:

    “At the end of the video he comes to the conclusion there is something genetically wrong with the black race.”

    He’s hilarious, but there’s nothing genetically “wrong” with black people, it’s just that their evolution worked out in such a way that, when it came to breeding, they never selected for higher intelligence. Generation after generation of dysgenics led them to where they are today.

    J. Philippe Rushton described blacks as having the mental ability of 11-year-old Whites. That is, when an African reaches adulthood he will have the same level of intelligence as an 11-year-old White kid. When you look at the way they live, talk, behave, etc. you realize that they are indeed basically overgrown children.

  12. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 21, 2011 - 2:26 am | Permalink

    @sylvie:

    Every argument the tribe and their dupes use against Whites is a moral argument. They have a monopoly on morality, and we can’t do anything about that. If we used master morality to attack their slave morality they’d just call us fascists.

    No, the best way to combat their arguments is through scientific reasoning. Kevin MacDonald’s evolutionary viewpoint on the tribe is a brilliant explanation of their behavior; before he came along, people really had no idea why the tribe behaved the way it did. We’re all on this site because of his evolutionary views, not his moral ones.

    The argument that by miscegenating with a black man, a white woman has thrown away 10,000 years of genetic progress is a FAR more powerful and hard-hitting argument than a simple “miscegenation is evil because white people are special” kind of thing.

  13. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    December 21, 2011 - 1:29 am | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Interesting you chaps are talking about charging fees to control immigration. During the mid 90’s when the old South Africa collapsed, I became a member of SAABSA (South African, Australian Businessman Association) in Australia. I recall being stunned at the requirement of enormous sums required for a White Family of SA’S to enter OZ. At first this was something like the possession of $500,000.00 of verifiable capital, or the purchasing or otherwise establishing a business employing no fewer that (say) 20 employees.

    The initial result was (surprise!) a substantial influx of SA Jews who predictably infested the leafy up-market eastern suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney. Over time the requirements were gradually reduced, the last time I recall it was capital at around $250,000.00 but I doubt if there were may Afrikaners. I regarded this as extortion and began to see the absolute hypocrisy in our immigration policy as at the time (as today) there were tens of thousands of Asians coming in.

  14. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 21, 2011 - 1:22 am | Permalink

    @sylvie: We hear this argument that declining population numbers require Europe and the United States to import immigrants, but it is clearly false. Declining native born European numbers are not necessarily a problem for standard of living. Tight labor markets are good for wages and often spur technological innovation. Oceans of cheap labor seldom lead to an increase in the standard of living, in fact they tend to lead to economic stagnation.

    Also, if the incoming population does not have the requisite intelligence and behavioral traits, they will be unable to provide much to their elderly white co-citizens (even if they wanted to).

    In addition, point out to them that diversity has been found to lower devotion to the common good in every nation that attempts it. Multiple academic studies show ethnic diversity increases inequality and social friction. Tell them to Google the research of Robert Putnam or any other work on ethnic diversity and public altruism, they all tell the same sad story.

  15. December 21, 2011 - 12:08 am | Permalink

    If anyone is interested, the black Rev. Dr. James Manning who has a ministry up in Harlem, comes to the same conclusion as the author of this article. At the end of the video he comes to the conclusion there is something genetically wrong with the black race. Dr. Manning is the one who came up with calling Obama ‘the long-legged mack daddy’. I find Manning to be pretty level-headed on a lot of things:

    Putting an End to the Ghost of Slavery Pt. 2

  16. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 20, 2011 - 11:32 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Immigration needs to be attacked from a scientific perspective, not a moral one.

    Immigration has not been imposed on us thru scientific arguments, but using the dubious ones I mentioned, you call then “moral” (but retirement paying is more than moral).

    Like it or not, we have to face them and this is not too difficult. When you`re attacked on a certain battlefield you cannot evade to another one – they will not follow you. The discussion is just over.

    And be careful:
    The IQ area is slippery, don`t overestimate the “science” in it, this is not solid state physics.

  17. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    December 20, 2011 - 10:18 pm | Permalink

    @Rehmat: You make a lame argument. How could I possibly care if a few white spies for Nazi Germany and White South Africa slipped through the screening? Those governments are gone with the wind. Even if I did care, the 20 thousand dollar processing fee would allow the government to catch most spies, but never all. However, we need to charge fees to slow down the river of economic refugees we get saddled with in our current system. People will respond to our arguments if we cast immigration as a jobs issue, but obviously no one will carry water casting it as a racial issue in this political climate. Our overriding goal is to stop immigration, but we have to do it in a politically viable way, unless you want armed revolution to creat a white America.

  18. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 20, 2011 - 9:15 pm | Permalink

    @sylvie:

    Immigration needs to be attacked from a scientific perspective, not a moral one. Attacking the idea of immigration itself will only result in one libtard victory after another. However if you bring irrefutable science into the discussion then libtards have nowhere to go, and at this point the genetic connection between black savagery and black IQ is unquestionable. This is why IQ is so important when it comes to racial matters. Above all else the cannibals from bongoland need to be repatriated, and the best way to do that is propose (non-racial) legislation that will prevent them from getting into Europe.

  19. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    December 20, 2011 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    It might be better to speak of the Netherlands, rather than “Holland,” in this context. The two names are not exactly synonymous.

    The article is very important and reveals the true nature of the problem confronting the civilized West.

  20. sylvie's Gravatar sylvie
    December 20, 2011 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

    The IQ discussion is interesting but – in terms of “what will work” – pretty useless. The proposals in this thread linking immigration to IQ show that some commenters never confronted immigration arguments outside this forum.

    When you discuss with our brainwashed compatriots on immigration you´ll have to face/debunk essentially two types of arguments (at least in Europe):

    1) native population is declining
    We need immigration because
    a) we are lacking workforce and
    b) nobody will pay our retirement

    2) diversity is an asset
    The more diverse/multi-cultural a society, the more successful it is, because diversity stimulates/fertilizes.

    IQ is a fifth-class argument in this context, because you will inevitably get bogged down in the psychological, sociological and historical intricacies of IQ measurement.

  21. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 20, 2011 - 4:28 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:
    From where you propose to get such loyal White immigrants? Most of White immigrants have history of spying against the US for Russia, Israel, Nazi Germany and even White ruled South Africa.

    Jim W. Dean has exposed Israeli espionage network and its American lobby groups working against the interests of United States in his latest article entitled Israeli Espionage in America, A National Security Scandal, published by Veteran Today on February 8, 2011….

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/us-israel-the-odd-couple/

  22. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    December 20, 2011 - 3:19 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: I would agree with your points except I also pointed out that I would put those restrictions on top of existing immigration laws. In other words, the pool would get smaller because only those who are currently eligible (20,000 per country, plus all other rules) would then be reduced to the least offensive members of their society, who would also fork over alot of money to defray our taxes and pay our bills.
    You have to start small. All-white immigration is not currently possible, but if we get the idea going that we should limit immigration to people who benefit us, then we can get America shifted towards thinking about our imterests, and not the world’s problems. That philosophy of helping out the world is where the roots of open immigration come from – solving the problems of the whole world while neglecting our own. Get people thinking that way and you gradually shift them away from multiculturalism.

  23. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    December 20, 2011 - 3:18 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius:

    Forgot to mention: a lot of White Rabbits hang out and “swarm” from the hive at http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/

    Betcha never saw White Rabbits swarming from a hive! And yes, they also STING! They sting anti-Whites, wherever they raise their ugly heads.

  24. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    December 20, 2011 - 3:10 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius: “What’s a White Rabbit?”

    http://whiterabbitradio.net/podcast-2

    Listen to the first 20 podcasts, and you’ll find out! My favorites in the first 20 are FTWR 15 and 17, about “Negative Conditioning” and “Baseline Humiliation Techniques”. Take your time and let it sink in slowly, and don’t be offput by some of the “wild stuff” mixed in with the totally “normal” techniques for engaging in “Full Spectrum Practical Politics”.

  25. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    December 20, 2011 - 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Much thought-provoking “stuff” at this site:

    http://www.lairdwilcox.com/index.html

    I found the section on “Ritual Defamation” instructive for both defense and offense against the “offenders”, the promoters of the anti-white narrative wherever they are found.

  26. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    December 20, 2011 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

    @Denise: What’s a white rabbit?

  27. Denise's Gravatar Denise
    December 20, 2011 - 1:42 pm | Permalink

    @Fenria: I very friendly White Rabbit, who used to go by the name “Miriam K” used to post here. This person posed as an obnoxious Jewess – and offered wonderful insight into the nature, and reasons for, of our plight. I’ll never forget one exchange. “Miriam” explained that if Jews mange to extgerminate Whites, as Whites – then Jews get to be the White People. There wo’t be any-one left who will know about, or care, the difference.

    The proccess is well underway. Whites seem to be fully complicit in our genocide. I’m not – and the tiny fraction of us that are aware of this process ar not – but the majority is dragging the rest of us into Oblivion.

  28. Phillip's Gravatar Phillip
    December 20, 2011 - 1:40 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    If there is a minimum requirement, based on the current average IQ, then all the immigrants will have to do is wait. For Denmark, given dysgenic fertility of the native Dane and the high fertility of immigrants, IQ rates have been dropping–est. at about 4 IQ pts over an 80 yr period (Nyborg, 2011, Personal. Indivd. Dif.). This drop could be increased if the population of Danes is replaced by low-IQ immigrants at a rate higher than it is now.

    Anyway, even with a restriction based on IQ, there does not seem to be anything stopping the dysgenic trend already underway via low-IQ high fertility of those already in Europe and the continuing decline in number of high IQ European ppls.

    What else is needed here?

  29. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 20, 2011 - 12:53 pm | Permalink

    @Ritchard:
    Well said.

    Uri Colonel, the Jewish Chairman of Amsterdam football club Ajax has called on supporters to stop describing themselves as Jews following the row over the behaviour of ADO Den Haag player Lex Immers.

    Ajax supporters are traditionally known as Joden (Jews). The great majority of them claim to be non-Jewish but they wear the ‘Star of Zion’, sing Jewish songs, wave Israeli flags and calling themselves ‘Super Jews’. However, this never bothered the Jewish lobby groups in Holland and the rest of Europe. But chanting pro-Hamas and Hizbullah slogans – is of course anti-West and anti-Semitism……

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/holland-sports-and-the-anti-semitism-hoax/

  30. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 20, 2011 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:
    Such an immigration policy would indeed filter out the bulk of stupid Blacks and Browns but would be no defense against the immigration of intelligent Chinese or upper cast Hindus.Keep in mind that both the Chinese and the Indians have populations of over ONE BILLION,that means they can produce a lot of people with an IQ of 120 or higher.Since the standard of living in the West is much higher than in their own countries,many of these intelligent Asians would like to immigrate .The net result of such a policy would be the creation of an upper class mainly consisting of Jews,Chinese and Hindus,all three groups more or less anti-White.Is that what you want?

    The criterium should not be IQ or skills or whatever “usefulness”,the sole criterium should be racial/ethnic IDENTITY.You cannot win a battle if you do not dare even to mention what the stake of the battle is and that is: WHITE IDENTITY.

  31. George's Gravatar George
    December 20, 2011 - 11:57 am | Permalink

    @ Vlad:
    “I agree we should write higher standards for immigration. Assuming we have to keep the current standards in place, we could add the following:
    1. IQ of 120 or better…”
    – While your suggestions would go a long way to deterring the detritus from coming into our White nations, there are only two problems with it;
    1) It would be opposed by the indigenous bleeding heart White Christians whose country it would benefit as it would be perceived to be discriminatory (“all God’s children are equal in God’s eyes”, etc.) and many Whites don’t have an IQ quite that high. It would keep out the Negro detritus if it were possible to pass such a law, but would be permeable to many Asians (and by this I mean Orientals- I do not include Pakistanis and the like under the classification of “Asian” as do the British) and it would serve as no impediment to the influx of Jews who are our worst enemy and can easily pass this immigration test on all counts- especially wealth.

  32. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    December 20, 2011 - 10:22 am | Permalink

    @fender: I agree we should write higher standards for immigration. Assuming we have to keep the current standards in place, we could add the following:
    1. IQ of 120 or better
    2. $20,000 non refundable fee to research background, health, education, associations, etc
    3. Investment of $500,000 in the United States.

    Many other countries force the immigrant to be a benefit to the receiving nation, we should insist that any new citizen benefits us. Marriage visas should also have the same high price, to prevent fraud.

  33. December 20, 2011 - 9:57 am | Permalink

    Very interesting article. It would be great if Peter could also come up with some estimates about the religion of the Antilleans; how many are “Christians” and how many are Muslim, and if they belong to any of these religions, how serious do they take it in their particular culture. This would be interesting for the discussion in Europe, where most people are trying to sweep the racial aspects under the rug, and try to blame religion exclusively in stead.

    Anyway, here in Denmark Somali’s are the most hated immigrants. Taxi drivers have been known to officially refuse to tansport Somalis – too dangerous! Just some weeks ago, a 16 year old Somali (who had just come “home” to Denmark after a trip to Somalia!) raped a ten year old girl in the Danish village of Gullestrup. The guy who attacked cartoonist Kurt Westergaard was a Somali as well. So many Somali sex offenders, violent thugs as well as terror suspects have been caught in Denmark the last few years, that I’ve lost count.

    White cab drivers in Denmark: Too dangerous to pick up Somalis
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=581

    But generally spoken having a low IQ and little restraint of sexual urges, doesn’t mean they are not very good at cheating. On my little blog alone:

    Articles are mostly in Danish, but I’ll give you a translation of the titles (some have links to English articles and there is a translate button beneath every post)

    Balder Blog 11 marts 2011 – Systematical social welfare fraud in Norway: Hundreds of Somali swindlers arrested
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=1163

    Balder Blog 3 april 2010 – USA, Shelbyville: Enormous problems with Somalis
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=934

    Balder Blog 2 januar 2010 – Denmark: Mohammed Cartoonist Kurt Westergaard attacked by Somali immigrant
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=875

    Balder Blog 29 november 2009 – Jews drag Somalis to the US and hands out citizenship certificates in holocaust museum
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=835

    Balder Blog 18 december 2008 – White cab drivers in Denmark: Too dangerous to pick up Somalis
    http://blog.balder.org/?p=581

  34. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    December 20, 2011 - 3:34 am | Permalink

    @tadzio: For example, about half of Greeks who immigrated to the US went back to Greece. I suspect that similar numbers hold for Italians (including those who went on to Buenos Aires or Brazil). Probably relatively fewer Russians went back after 1917.

  35. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    December 20, 2011 - 3:29 am | Permalink

    @Dirk: They’re only attracted to it because the Jewish mass media machine glorifies it. There weren’t throngs of white adolescents listening to blues and rock & roll until Alan Freed, Lieber & Stoller, Decca records (Jewish operation), Chess records (Jewish operation) started promoting it.

  36. tadzio's Gravatar tadzio
    December 20, 2011 - 2:14 am | Permalink

    To be up front I’m dealing off a decades old memory, not the best of footnotes. Anyone who could correct me is welcome. A study of 19th century shipping logs showed that about half of immigrants returned to the place of the origins. There were only two groups that did not fit this general pattern, Negroes and Jews. They were faced with the prospect of Africa or the shetl, that, is, living among their own kind. As both groups are parasites on the White Christian host of America, this is understandable. It is also noticeable that both groups are the most disaffected with the society that they benefit from. Where is the gratitude?

    Anyone with knowledge of American emigration?

  37. Dirk's Gravatar Dirk
    December 20, 2011 - 1:41 am | Permalink

    I think Stuyvesant makes a valid point here and I would like to add to that the fact that Black culture is more dangerous than any other inferior culture because White children are relatively more attracted to it (rap, etc.).

  38. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 20, 2011 - 1:18 am | Permalink

    @Wiggy: Almost certainly Obama will win another term. The Republicans are already floating the idea of running Condi Rice as their VP! Anyway I feel like the odds are Obama will win again due to general Republican incompetence.

    What smart Republicans/conservatives (if there is such a creature) should highlight is the obvious racial dimension of our politics. They should concede the loss of the black vote and stop fighting for it. They should also subtly expose the overwhelming Jewish support for Obama (of course that’s never going to happen). They should also concede the loss of the mestizo vote.

    Then they should put forward a set of policies designed to improve the lot of White people. This would include both working-class and middle-class Whites. Of course, this would all be implicit – they can’t be pro-White just yet, in the current environment, but they can at least acknowledge how openly racial both the Left and the Democratic Party are. Basically, this is the so-called Sailer strategy, of getting more white people to vote Republican.

    Of course this isn’t going to happen. Instead, Republicans will pander to blacks and mestizos, while disrespecting whites. They will continue to promote globalism and multiculturalism, with the occasional cartoonish hot button issue thrown in, to rally the not-so-smart conservative base. But one wonders how long they can keep playing this game and avoiding difficult truths, especially if they lose at the presidential level again.

  39. Wiggy's Gravatar Wiggy
    December 20, 2011 - 12:35 am | Permalink

    Until the average white moron has to confront the reality of race, this will continue. Whites live mainly in White-opias of segregation. If O gets in again, this will be a major target, to mud up most of the rest of White America.

  40. Wiggy's Gravatar Wiggy
    December 20, 2011 - 12:33 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    You cannot impose IQ test because You Know Who have the political power to oppose this. The are even keeping out Danish high IQ sperm from USA sperm banks, because of too many women wanting high IQ blond blue eyed children.

  41. Fenria's Gravatar Fenria
    December 19, 2011 - 11:44 pm | Permalink

    It’s all part of the agenda that these people have been imported into every white nation. The whole point is to marginalize whites within our own country, to remove us from our own power structure, to defang us, to make us impotent and non threatening, and to atomize us from our fellow whites so we stumble around, alone and confused in the nations our own forefathers built.

    We all know who’s running this agenda, and the point of it all is to force the doors of white nations open so wide that they may never be closed again, not necessarily to non whites, but to jews. This is all for the benefit of jews, who want to make sure they can never be kicked out of white nations ever again, regardless of their horrible behavior and nation wrecking.

    To this end, they will take our nations to the brink of collapse and destroy the very societies that host them, all to make sure that we whites can never again lock them out.

    It’s not surprising that jews have coined the word, “chutzpah”. No other word fits them quite as well.

  42. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 19, 2011 - 11:40 pm | Permalink

    @Ritchard: Yes, the main problem are Whites who, either through ignorance, malice, or personal ambition, subvert our race. We do need to impose social costs on those who take anti-White positions. The question is whether we have the ability to impose any significant sanctions in the current atmosphere.

    I’m afraid at the moment, shunning will do little good because our numbers are so small. We do not speak for Whites (I wish it were otherwise). Currently, being shunned by White Nationalists or White advocates would actually be beneficial to a person’s career in the United States or Europe.

    I don’t say this to demoralize anyone, but only to bring sobriety to the conversation, and to remind everyone that our number one goal must be gaining social legitimacy. Once we are taken seriously and have at least a substantial minority of Whites on our side, then the options available to us will be manifold.

    Even the concept of “social legitimacy” is a bit hazy. I’m simply using it as a stand-in for the idea that we still need to make inroads into the White community, before we can start exercising any power, social or otherwise. It’s not something to be pursued for its own sake, but rather for its instrumental value, that is, its ability to help us achieve ourlarger goals.

    However, letting people in your immediate world know that you don’t appreciate anti-White sentiment could be the beginning of social change, especially if this is done with a short pithy argument that short-circuits the multicultural groupthink and makes the other White person stop and think. .

  43. Al Ross's Gravatar Al Ross
    December 19, 2011 - 11:24 pm | Permalink

    Muslims in Malaysia (Malays) have institutionalised ‘racism’ as racial preference based government policy and are right to do so. Racially alien interlopers like Rehmat and his ilk (who have done such a magnificent job running their own Third World Trashcanstans) always moan about ‘racism’ while living (and ruining) in nations that Whites built.

  44. fender's Gravatar fender
    December 19, 2011 - 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Someone should propose IQ standards for immigration into Europe. The Netherlands, for example, has an average IQ of 100. Therefore it should be Dutch policy that all immigrants have an IQ of at least 100. The result would be that practically no blacks would be able to get into the Netherlands, or any European country for that matter, and the vast majority of them already there would be repatriated.

    Of course there would be no racial aspect to this policy, so libtards wouldn’t be able to scream racism unless they are insinuating that blacks have naturally low IQs, in which case they would actually be incriminating themselves as racists. To me this is the perfect ploy to flush out the zulus (not to mention most of the Arabs and Pakis as well) and force libtards to confront their theocratic egalitarian dogmas.

  45. Lookaroundu's Gravatar Lookaroundu
    December 19, 2011 - 10:05 pm | Permalink

    “… the effects of public investment on the empowerment of Antillean communities … A total of 44 million Euros were spent, more than was spent on any other minority group with problems …”
    So, in the Netherlands, dumping taxpayer money into a bottomless pit of low IQ humanity is considered an investment? This misleading “investment” language is often used by progressive politicians here in the US. Since the 1960s, trillions of dollars have been invested in the inner cities with nothing to show for it – except more black (and more recently, hispanic) criminal teen dropouts who father another generation of low IQ bastards to be fed, clothed and housed by taxpayers. These then become tomorrow’s criminals. Some investment.

  46. Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
    December 19, 2011 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    @Sector 19 (paraphrasing)

    It’s not the content of your constitution, but the character of your constituency.

    Very nicely put, sir or ma’am!

  47. Ritchard's Gravatar Ritchard
    December 19, 2011 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    The problems we face is not the behavior of Somalis, Jews or any other race in our midst. The crux of the problem are the white race traitors, by either ignorance or sucking up politically. We have to purge the white. We can start by speaking up, not being so polite and shunning them .

  48. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 19, 2011 - 8:27 pm | Permalink

    @Athling: Well said! We must keep our eye on the essential issue.

  49. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 19, 2011 - 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Merry Christmas Everyone! PBS World is treating us to a Christmas Special detailing the history of Anti-semitism in the guise of a history of Christianity. 2,000 years of untold suffering for no other reason then they were Jewish! Complete with a good blond guy with a German acknowledging our guilt and hanging his head in shame. Do you feel the guilt? Did they kill the spirit? And they wonder why we don’t want to be content with Happy Holidays.

  50. Athling's Gravatar Athling
    December 19, 2011 - 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Those who control immigration policies in virtually every Western country should be made to stand trial for what they’ve done. No effort is made to ensure the tranquility of the native European descended people. No compatibility testing of any kind is done. The possibility of an immigrant actually benefiting the host society seems irrelevant. Apparently these incompatible third worlders are being brought in for the native Whites to take care of. Just dump them and their pathologies on us without the least thought of consequences. And we do nothing. Amazing.

    For the first time in recorded history a major indigenous population, those of European descent, are voluntarily becoming a minority in their own homelands, rather than through war, famine, or disease.

    No other people on earth have done this. The enormity of the tragedy is beyond belief.

  51. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    December 19, 2011 - 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Achtung! A judenfrei article!

    I speak in jest. TOO is one of the few sites that deals with the JQ in a professional and scholarly manner.

    As for Negros, if they weren’t so prone to rape and violence I’d find them comical. Tin Tin’s author was too kind to them.

  52. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    December 19, 2011 - 7:20 pm | Permalink

    One is inclined to wonder, at times, just who the real ‘retards’ really are. Are they the obvious low IQ, simian-like Negroes in our midst, tearing down White Civilization, and racially defiling our females, or is it the race-denying, ethnically befuddled, credulous White fools who permit and tolerate this inter-racial madness?

  53. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    December 19, 2011 - 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Very nice article that makes important points. Pointing out poor African performance in every environment they find themselves in undercuts the idea that their problems are a result of any ‘historical injustices’.

  54. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    December 19, 2011 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Skinny Somali darkies have been exported all over the World into White countries by our Jewish friends. In Australia we have thousands of them. Years ago I am driving home from my office I see the females walking their children home from school and notice quite a few of the women have a decided list, to either port or starboard. Later I discover that one of their cultural characteristics is for the men to take the family machete to a woman suspected of infidelity. It seems they favor the tendon behind the knee.

  55. Sector 19's Gravatar Sector 19
    December 19, 2011 - 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Sooner or later a critical mass of people are going to have to realize that it’s not the content or wording of your countries constitution, but the character of it’s constituency. Everything else is bullshit.

  56. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 19, 2011 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

    @Lancashire lad:
    42% of Whites being charged shows how much poverty and anger is among the White Christian majority against their 1% – who happen to be either Jewish or partners-in-crime with the Jewish Rothschild bankers. British history colonialism in Africa, Asia and Middle East is living example of Whiteman’s hatred toward non-Whites. So much so, even today, British elites are allergic to non-Zionist journalism.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/british-lobbys-campaign-against-press-tv/

  57. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    December 19, 2011 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Surinameses do have something in common with Europeans – which Somalis, being Muslims, usually don’t have. That’s their common racism and Jewish connection.

    Dr. Raphael in his book “Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History” (1983) wrote: “Slave trading was a major feature of Jewish economic life in Surinam which as a major stopping-off point in the triangular trade. Both North American and Caribbean Jews played a key role in this commerce; records of a slave sale in 1707 reveal that the ten largest Jewish purchasers (10,400 guilders) spent more than 25% of the total funds (38,605 guilders) exchanged”…….

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/jewish-leaders-ask-obama-to-denounce-farakhan/

  58. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    December 19, 2011 - 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Simoleon used to be slang for a dollar, I could use 40,000 simoleons, but I’d rather have money (gold).

  59. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    December 19, 2011 - 2:22 pm | Permalink

    There are an estimated 40,000 Somalians living in Columbus, the state capital of Ohio. There may be more, a lot more.

    For all you Republican types most of the Soamali showed up when Republican the Bob Taft was Governor of Ohio.

  60. Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
    December 19, 2011 - 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Here in the UK, the BBC has reported that the rioters this summer were “poorer, younger and less educated” than the rest of the population:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15426720
    Readers of this TOO might be interested in the breakdown of ethnic origin in the article, not reflected in the headline, probably as a result of BBC policy, but unambiguous in the following sentence:

    “In terms of ethnicity, 42% of those charged were white, 46% black, 7% Asian and 5% were classified as “other”.”

  61. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 19, 2011 - 12:24 pm | Permalink

    I sometime fear that our willful blindness to reality has overwhelmed us. In recent weeks I have seen celebrations of the Little Rock nine and Brown v Board of Education on the tube. As we look at the sad state of education in this country, who can applaud these changes? Blacks have not benefited and whites have been dragged down to a new low. This is what now passes for a gentleman and scholar.

  62. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    December 19, 2011 - 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “…a Somali man who was prevented from being repatriated to Somalia because he was considered retarded and therefore incompetent to go back by himself.The Somali in question,Fahdi Hassan Mohammed (24 years old in 2010),had an IQ of 74,in the mildly mentally retarded range according to Dutch standards.However in Somalia with its average IQ of 68,this man would be considered above average”.

    I assume that the phrase “incompetent to go back by himself” doesn’t mean incompetent to sit out his flight aboard a plane to Somalia,but means incompetent to start a new life on his own on arrival.In that case he was judged to need help from his more intelligent fellows.There is a huge ontradiction in this judgement not to send this man back to his country.

    If we assume that the relevant authorities based their judgement on the “all-men-are-equal” idea (most likely),then our poor Somali could savely be send back to Somalia since the Somalians, being equal in intelligence to the Dutch, would be fully competent to take care of their less intelligent brother.If however the authorities based their judgement on the “all-men-are-unequal” idea and acknowledged that the average IQ of Somalians is 68,then our Somali friend could be send back as a “normal” person to Somalia and live and function there on a “normal” level (actually even somewhat higher).In either case there is no compelling reason not to send this man back to his country.

    This same argument – by extension – can be used for all racial aliens and this throughout the IQ spectrum.Are they geniuses?Send them back for they will be able to function successfully in their own country.Are they mediocre?Send them back for they will easily fit in the mediocre majority.Are they retarded? Send them back for – if their people are equal to us in intelligence – they can easily take care of them themselves.If they are not equal in intelligence and are retarded compared to us,then sending retarded to live among the retarded is simply their form of normalcy as it has been for thousands of years.
    In all cases: send them back!

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