The mainstream media, along with countless mainstream “conservatives”, have been attacking Ron Paul for un-PC sentiments expressed in his various newsletters back in the 1980s and 1990s. They’ve dredged up several quotes, from different issues and different years. I won’t rehash them all, but here’s the gist of a few of them:
The Rodney King riots only died down when the 1st of the month rolled around and it was time for blacks to pick up their welfare checks.
95% of young black males in Washington, DC are criminals or semi-criminals.
Martin Luther King was a commie and a pervert and is the last person who should have a national holiday.
You get the picture. So far, Rep. Paul has managed to stave off these attacks, and they don’t appear to have done him much damage.
But now other quotes from that same era have turned up, and the old quotes we’ve all heard about pale in comparison to these new ones that have come to light. See for yourself:
“The race question,” said Adolf Hitler, “not only furnishes the key to world history but also to human culture as a whole. There is absolutely no other revolution but a racial revolution ….”
To the enlightened and civilized, all of that sounded like gobbledygook. According to sophisticated books, the term “race” had little if any scientific status. There was no evidence that any “race” was superior to another. We were all part of “mankind,” though divided somewhat arbitrarily into “nation-states.” Our rational destiny was some sort of Parliament of Man.
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Only it turns out that Hitler was, politically viewed, very nearly right.Race, or more antiseptically “ethnicity,” emerges as the critical factor in twentieth-century political behavior, with religion—another atavistic category, from the enlightened standpoint—running a close second. And, often, race and religion are intertwined, reinforcing one another.
These reflections are prompted by the deteriorating situation in South Africa, where race is the determinant, and by the fatuous things being said about South Africa in so many quarters . . .
You could argue that the present government in Pretoria is in fact, by most accepted criteria, the best on the continent of Africa. Blacks in large numbers are willingly emigrating to South Africa. No Berlin Wall keeps people from leaving South Africa if they want to do so. But, because of the factor of race, it is South Africa –not Uganda, not Mozambique -that is denounced by Mr. Reagan and even the Pope. Any tyranny, any caste system –even Cambodia’s or North Korea’s –is apparently more acceptable to our moral custodians than the South African racially based system .
So, that’s the way it is. In India, in Latin America, in Asia, race or “ethnicity” is the determining political category. Hitler seems to have won his debased argument.
[R]ace governs all . [From the January, 1986 issue of Instuaration, last page. See also the front page article on Newt Gingrich. It turns out that Gingrich's recent prostrations to all things Jewish have a long history.]
Wow.
Hitler was basically right about race?
Race is the key to world history and human culture?
Race is the critical factor in politics?
The racist, apartheid government of South Africa was the best system of government in all of Africa?
Liberals claim that no race is superior to any other race, but Hitler won that argument?
Race governs everything?
Wow.
Yeah, I’d say these quotes are a lot more inflammatory than the earlier ones. This looks like trouble. Big trouble.
So how do you suppose Ron Paul will explain away these quotes?
Actually, he won’t have to. The passage didn’t appear in a Ron Paul newsletter. It’s an editorial which was published in the September 6, 1985 edition of National Review, which was the voice of American conservatism in the 1980s. The editorial was published with the full approval of William F. Buckley; it’s very likely he wrote it himself. (Read more here – scroll down to page 17.)
If you’re planning to wait and see how many of the mainstream “conservatives” who have denounced Paul for being a racist now go on to condemn William F. Buckley for being a racist, well, you might wanna grab a Snickers, because it’s probably gonna be a while.
Of course, the main point of all this is how badly conservatism has degenerated in only 27 years. Nobody raised an eyebrow when that editorial appeared in the leading conservative journal in 1985. That’s because they agreed with Buckley; these views about the stark differences between the races, and how important they are when it comes to politics, were taken for granted by conservatives. What WFB said in this editorial wasn’t merely mainstream conservative thought; he was expressing principles that are foundational to conservatism. Now, a mere quarter century later, these very same foundational principles are beyond the pale, and anyone who expresses even the slightest skepticism about the radical left wing doctrine of racial equality is immediately repudiated and denounced by all respectable conservatives.
Originally posted at James Edwards’ The Political Cesspool site.
Facing the Future as a Minority
It’s doubtful that Paul could win against Obama this time around, but his incredible “inexplicable” jump in popularity is redefining Conservative politics in a positive way. He probably won’t drop out until the convention so he can demonstrate that point and get his message out. Win or lose, we can claim some measure of victory with Paul’s candidacy.
Given the nature of these latest accusations, however, too much support or dedicated attention from white advocacy sites could hurt him. That’s politics, folks. I thought AmRen did a good job at keeping their distance.
@Jim:
Did I misunderstand? I thought it was clear that these quotes had nothing to do with Ron Paul. I have thought long and hard about your point that our public support might hurt more than it helps – though we should send him some money to say thanks for standing up to the bad boys.
I don’t think Dr. Paul had real hopes of winning. He has changed the conversation and most of all shown the MSM and neocons for the hypocrites they are. By standing up and acting like everyone’s beloved grandfather, and enduring the assaults with grace, intelligence and good humor, he has shown them for what they are. I am holding out hope for his son Rand.
Alice, I’m not going to try to sort out what Ron did or didn’t write. A candidate’s opponent will delve into all manner of obscurity to find some indication of evil. You’re right, of course, even without these statements, Paul couldn’t win. It’s sure nice to see a “25%” by his name in the primaries, though. If his numbers go down to 5 or 6%, it’s much less likely that he (or his message) will go the distance.
I also agree with you about Rand.
@Alice Teller:
It’s easy to understand how Jim got confused. This article intentionally misleads readers until after the halfway point. I understand Mr. Edwards was doing that to make a point, but I still think it might create unnecessary, harmful confusion; which is the last thing Ron Paul needs.
(No offense to Mr. Edwards. I don’t know much about him, but I figure he has helped white people in different ways, and I’m grateful for that.)
When it comes to race, I don’t hate non-whites.
I just think multiculturalism and forced diversity are bad for white people. I don’t like the fact that we are demonized for wanting to live in natural, healthy white societies.
I want to love everyone and appreciate whatever good stuff is in non-white cultures. But it’s difficult because we have to constantly focus on preserving our culture and rights.
I’m not one of those whites who hates or makes fun of non-whites. That does not sit well with my soul. I can understand people who fall into that kind of stuff. But I don’t think that is healthy for anyone, and it’s not the image we want to share with others. (That’s my opinion.)
Have a good day, all.
(I’ve started using the word “white” with a lower case “w”. I’m not sure which is better, the upper case “W” or the lower case “w”…)
…I still think it might create unnecessary, harmful confusion; which is the last thing Ron Paul needs.
“Unnecessary harmful confusion?” I always knew that the liberal left generally cannot read, and are always up to subterfuge; but now we find that people on the other side of the fence are illiterates too. Great.
@Jim:
He has already done us great good. Every time they call us fanatics or paulbots of my favorite, mocking the fact that we refer to an elderly doctor, as Dr. Paul, he is breaking down their hold and advancing our cause.
@Jim:
PJB got 23% of the GOP primary vote in 1992 and 21% of that vote in 1996. Buchanan also won four states in 1996. Net result?
These remarks about race in the National Review are of a nature that we nowadays would call “race realism”. That doesn’t sit well with liberals, who seem to be engaged in a kind of war against reality, a war that they never can win but that nevertheless makes countless victims. It seems impossible for a certain kind of mindset to accept the fact that you only can build a better world based on r.e.a.l.i.t.y in stead of spasmodically maintained illusions.
As for Ron Paul’s candidacy, it is a foregone conclusion that at this stage he cannot become the Republican candidate, let alone president. He could however use the momentum he has created to found a Third Party that might grow in the future. Of that party he could become the elderly mentor with his son Rand as its leader. That party should first try to win governerships of states, prove its worth and then try to win the presidency. That would be a realistic alternative.
@m:
In response to my comment, “m” wrote:
“Unnecessary harmful confusion?” I always knew that the liberal left generally cannot read, and are always up to subterfuge; but now we find that people on the other side of the fence are illiterates too. Great.
I doubt you actually believe that I am illiterate. (I’m not the greatest reader, and I’m not great with words, either. But I’m far from illiterate. And I’m grateful to have the ability to read and think.)
A part of me feels unworthy to even comment on this site; for example, Mr. Edwards is a lawyer (I think?) and that is very admirable and encouraging. It’s great to have a pro-white lawyer contributing to this site and movement.
I’m okay with someone disagreeing with something I wrote. Something in my original comment might be lacking or partial; most comments are. And if someone points that out, I’m not really offended by that.
But calling me illiterate does not really help. I can understand your frustration at my comment. When I take the time to try to see and understand another person’s perspective, I’m pretty good at it. And sometimes I feel that frustration at others or even myself. So I think I can see myself through your eyes (perspective). I can understand the heart of your comment, underneath the words.
On an unrelated note: I want to clarify something I wrote in my original comment:
I’m not one of those whites who hates or makes fun of non-whites. That does not sit well with my soul. I can understand people who fall into that kind of stuff. But I don’t think that is healthy for anyone, and it’s not the image we want to share with others. (That’s my opinion.)
I want to be clear that I was not referring to Mr. Edwards or any other TOO contributor or commenter.
Take care, all.
I recall photographs of Buckley’s rat’s nest office in his home the year before he died, and he looked like a wreck. He also did a lot to wreck the conservative cause by firing Joe Sobran for contextual anti-Semitism. Norman Podhoretz wrote that “Joe Sobran’s columns … [are] anti-Semitic in themselves–this from a Jew who complained of my “Negro Problem,” an essay in which Podhoretz described the oppression he felt from African-Americans as a child. Funny how he could have an ethnic opinion but Sobran could not!
But considering that the 1st amendment is history, so to speak, truth is an unwanted orphan anywhere.
Bon appétit.
http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2012/01/durban-beach-new-year-day-2012-video.html
@South African:
An incredible sight. A stinking mass of humanity, completely helpless in every regard, pissing and crapping where they please and wandering around without any sense of purpose beyond multiplying themselves. But remember, they’re our equals.
The trouble with “conservatism” is that it doesn’t indicate what is to be conserved. The right needs new ideas of which race realism and evolutionary and empirical psychology are the best sources I have seen. There has got to be a way of reintroducing them into “conservative” circles which otherwise have no backbone and simply cave in to liberal rhetoric when pushed.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
I don’t know if that is the wisest political strategy, but in general I agree. My husband, a wise man, says that we have run all the necessary experiments to prove that all the that liberal illusions are false. The only question that remains in what will we do with the answer?
@South African: Excellent.
Thank you.
@Richard:
I think there has been confusion all around today. I think that “m” was referring to the republican right as illiterate. These misunderstanding happen in a quick comments section like this.
I know lots of lawyers, and I am sure your contribution is often more valuable then theirs.
@South African:
That is hard to watch, if that is the future maybe we should join the fairy folk and fade into the west.
Who is feeding those negroes?
Umm, I was commenting on the recent accusations of racism towards Paul that I’ve heard on the news lately. I didn’t misread THAT. (Or Edward’s intent with this article.) As I said before, I’m not trying to decipher who wrote what. It doesn’t really matter, as Paul’s not likely to win. The point is that too much support by white advocates will not bolster Paul’s message.
James, you magnificent bastard! :-D
somebody quoted a poll that claimed that 94% of folks polled thought MLK was a great man.
That is hard to believe. However, I suppose that folks know they are being watched.
My experience with Republicans is this: this are closet racists, anti-immigrant, if not greedy, then very sensitive about “taxes.” What that sensitivity is all about is Free Money for the usuals. It has become a taboo…race inequality. However, in my conversations with folks, they are interested in our position. Private life is not public pronouncements. And people are very aware of the Negative Action for whites on the job front.
I talked to a Tea Party 55ish woman a while back and led her thru a few statements to figure out what she believed. She was close to our positions.
The Repugnican rank and file is anti-immigrant and racist, but pro-Israel. The Democrats of course are moving toward, if not an anti-Israel position, then a very critical and anti-zionist position, which of course is consistent with its Race Equality, etc. ideology.
This makes things very difficult for us politically. If Israel did not exist, again, another “what if” like If Jews did not Exist…our project would be much easier.
There is of course the obvious fact that jewish nationalism and racism is exactly what we stand for, sans imperialism and land theft.
Of course, Abstract Analysis is one thing and politics is another. No Repugnican, rank-and-file or leader, would ever acknowledge this truth. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east…would be the cry of protest.
LIttle good would it do to point out that Israel is a fascist country that happens to provide for elections. Israelis agree on fundamentals, and thus can handle a competitive party system. It is illegal to call for the dissolution of Israel…I understand.
Nor could we argue for a political system that was for Whites only, like Jews only in Israel. Our enemies would pick up their pitchforks…
The thing seems to have to play itself out. More wars for Israel carry great risks, possibly nuclear war risks. But there is nothing to do about that except to elect Obongo.
That would probably prevent more war. It would also provide time for the Islamic political order to establish itself without too much aggression from Israel and the US. Will political Islam bring relative stability to the Middle East. My guess is that it will (despite Sunni/Shiia conflict in Iraq.)
I am unaware of similar religious divisions in other Arab countries that are as large as those in Iraq.
Assuming that Obongo is reelected, and that Political Islam brings relative stability, then more Arab political/military pressure will be brought to bear on Isreal. What then?
If Israel starts a war, and certainly if it uses nukes, the world will come down harshly on Israel. What about our Repugnicans then? Is it possible that the Repugnican Party could be forced by events to alter its views on support for Israel? I doubt it.
Then, there is Europe with its 50 plus million Muslims. What will they do if war comes? Presumably, there will be hopping mad A-rabs in the European street. That will be good for WN.
So, right now, there is not much we can do about the Jew Power, but the immigrant and black 100 million folks are losing ground fast with the economy and no more Free Money. That is one very positive development for us. Hopefully, many of them will provoke a very large White Backlash when they hit the streets with their guns and matches. J
@Alice Teller:
If that’s true, then I want to offer an apology to the commenter “me” (and anyone else) for any misunderstanding.
Have a good night or morning, all. Take care.
A chilling, even terrifying video – well worth comment, in complete contrast to the completely irrelevant Ron Paul blather. Until this very moment I have hardly been concerned to arm myself though I have always understood the perfectly rational motive to do so. The video powerfully synthesizes and encapsulates the suicidal ethos of European derived nations, and that with statistics and official extrapolation. Political conservatism on essentially every level is no conservatism at all in this Orwellian era. That is the REAL point of Edwards’ post. That is, there IS NO political solution – least of all a rediculous Ron Paul exercise in futility. And Alice, don’t bother to bother me with your fanatical Paul apologias. I don’t give a tinker’s damn about it all. The solution is going to have to be an existential unraveling so fearful that a desperate martial response will be the lone left gambit.
So far we’ve got 3 semi-prominent zio-zombies who are on record as having accused Dr.P of, drum roll, anti-semitism™.
1. Recovering bi-sexual marxist Michael Weiner a.k.a. ‘conservative nationalist’ Mike Savage.
2. Former card carrying communist David Horowitz who presently fancies himself a ‘social conservative’.
3. A man who wears too many professional hats to list; a semi-steady contributor to the Penthouse magazine; a gallant Nixon defender Benjamin Stein.
@Joe Webb:
You’re right Joe, 94% is hard to believe, sort of. I find that with virtually no exception when I do broach any political or cultural topic with my typical forthright racialist framing the response is one of tacit or explicit agreement. And yet apathy or resignation and both clearly rule as of today. Should there come a tomorrow of a very pervasive awakening it will have to be believed to be a choice between life and death. Whites are badly damaged goods psychologically. The media at every point reinforces their thrall moment by moment. As I stated above conservatism is a savagely risible fraud. It would seem some in this venue are forlornly tied to the status quo construct. I have seen enough of it and enough of its inexorable leftwardness to rise above more than a bitter contempt when I pull the lever.
@icr:
“PJB got 23% of the GOP primary vote in 1992 and 21% of that vote in 1996. Buchanan also won four states in 1996. Net result?
That’s an excellent observation. I guess I see at least two differences between Pat B.’s situation back then Paul’s situation now.
1) Paul’s numbers represent a drastic increase from 2008, when he had 10% in Iowa and 8% in New Hampshire.
2) Paul still resonates with young voters. I don’t believe Buchanan ever did, to any great degree.
But you could very well be right. Having the second best hand in a poker game means very little, when all is said and done.
While it is true that so-called conservatism has long been shifting leftward, and while it is true that William F. Buckley once upon a time wrote things that would now be considered beyond the pale (perhaps e.g. his mockery of Jesse Jackson or his book defending Senator McCarthy) I am afraid that James Edwards has somewhat twisted the meaning of that 1986 editorial in order to strengthen his argument.
It really does not say that Hitler’s statement was correct as Hitler himself meant it.
That qualifier “politically viewed” is important. “Politically viewed” means that people are making choices based on race (which is bad!), not that race itself is inherently determining anything.
The editorial maintains that Hitler’s “debased argument” is wrong while straining for a tenuous comparison between Hitler and the people condemning South Africa, on the basis that both treat race as important.
It doesn’t say that the South African government was good because it was run by Whites. It only goes as far as complaining that the South African government was singled out for abuse — in spite of the fact that it was obviously good for Blacks, since they chose to live there — because it was run by Whites. I suppose that’s something, but the use of such tenuous Hitler-comparisons against anti-racists is in the short term ludicrous and in the long term self-defeating.
At bottom, that 1986 editorial represents standard kosher-conservative rhetoric along the lines of complaining that anti-Whites are the “real racists.”
@Hadding Scott: Yes, I’m glad you corrected Edward’s pitch. Buckley had a talent for nuance. Joe Sobran:
“Bill wrote a weird public disavowal of my columns on Israel, saying in effect that I wasn’t anti-Semitic, but deserved to be called anti-Semitic.”
http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_sobran.htm
Thanks to Tommyboy for remembering Sobran.
According to Orwell, speaking the truth would become a revolutionary act.
Today, speaking the ” plain as the nose on your face” truth IS a revolutionary act …
i.e. Race is very important.
And , Conservatives who conserve nothing, Orwell was right about language too.
@Joe Webb: The main desire of “WN”, is for the opponent to come out and ‘fight like a man’. They want hordes of blacks, arabs and mestizos to start going door-to-door, under the command of the Jewish commandants, harassing if not killing White citizens, so as to spark the Final Conflict.
Which is why they never do that. Why would they? They are winning anyway with a slow process of strangulation. Of course, WN want a fight in the street, they imagine this is the fight they could win (since they are losing the actual war horribly).
Every society I know of where blacks rose up and slaughtered Whites in a long term, systematic way, happened when blacks outnumbered Whites almost 10 to 1 (Hatti) . Modern day Muslims and Mestizos are not much better, they are not good disciplined warriors. Which is why they do crime, not war. They do sporadic hits, not sustained campaigns.
Why do you think these blacks, mestizos and modern day muslims, who show very little in the way of real military mettle, will suddenly become warriors that risk their lives for a cause? They won’t, they barely take care of their own kids. No, they are letting the weight of demographics win the war for them.
@Joe Webb: Mainly, I think you haven’t been a 6 year old child made to feel guilt over black history and the holocaust, and then have it pushed on you for the next 12 years through high school, along with required role playing where you learn what its like to be a “victimized” member of society. Education changed dramatically at least by the 70s and 80s for young kids. I could see the propaganda, but most of my peers never did. The white girls cried over the holocaust and slavery and berated any white male who dared sound like he was going to protest. Most of the white guys just hung their heads in shame. This is the power of indoctrination. Yes, later, many decades later, they get a sense they were kinda misled, but they seldom think it through.
@Jason Speaks:
“Every society I know of where blacks rose up and slaughtered Whites in a long term, systematic way, happened when blacks outnumbered Whites almost 10 to 1 (Hatti) . Modern day Muslims and Mestizos are not much better, they are not good disciplined warriors. Which is why they do crime, not war. They do sporadic hits, not sustained campaigns.
Why do you think these blacks, mestizos and modern day muslims, who show very little in the way of real military mettle, will suddenly become warriors that risk their lives for a cause? They won’t, they barely take care of their own kids. No, they are letting the weight of demographics win the war for them.
Good point. One exception is Muslim suicide bombers. Other than that, I agree with you, Jason. And the guy in this video does, too, it seems. I thought you all might enjoy this clip, presented with all the “richness” and “vibrancy” that only a person of color could provide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VqG_4ADFfQ
@Jason Speaks: thanks for this. Yes, at my age I was not exposed to the propaganda when I was young. However, with my communist parents, I got a good dose of sympathy for the exploited darkies.
Then there was the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s, etc. However, the politics of same was Not everyday propaganda of the kids. We were putative adults then who could think, and hopefully, think again as new info came in.
The kids of later decades got the psy-war as opposed to “thinking”. Again, good point.
@Jason Speaks: I don’t think they can. Also because their stupidity makes them more narcissistic.
Arabs are different; they will fight for Allah. However Arab IQ average is about 83 per Richard Lynn. That does not make them Effective fighters, but they will fight. Anyway, that is Europe’s problem , not ours. They have a bigger problem than we have with but they are starting to turn against Liberalism, as we see.
@Jim: this video is great, he be right!
What liberals could do is get a Program together to teach niggers how to shoot straight. The problem is that niggers are too poor to afford to go to gun ranges. This must stop! Equality Now! Gun ranges must have Affirmative Action to assure gun Equality! Write your congressperson!
Imagine integrated gun ranges….uh..might be better to have segregated gun ranges.
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About 1993 or so, I sent unsolicited as a gift to NR a copy
of Stanley Burnham’s BLACK INTELLIGENCE IN WHITE SOCIETY,
3rd ed., to WJB and got a response in his behalf signed by his secretary that accorded the book and the topic a very positive regard as something of keen political relevance. Quite obviously something later went awry under that roof concerning respect for freedom of expression and the importance of racial realism as the foundation for any enduring political (and ethical) policy. What went wrong would seem a story worth telling.
The 2nd war in Chechnya – that for the most part was a Western project – brought to prominence a fair number of Arab ‘volunteers’ highly skilled in guerrilla warfare. Who for years would fight in an alien, often freezing environment with as much competence and ferocity as the locals.
So I’d caution against wholesale dismissal of their military cred based on Hollywood stereotypes brought to you by the likes of Menahem Golan/Yoram Globus duo.
@Joe Webb:
I don’t think any European state has a larger percentage of non-White population the the USA has. For some reason we Americans always prefer to think about other peoples’ problems.
One aspect of the European situation that makes it shocking is that their governments openly volunteered them for the problems that they do have. The U.S. Government on the other hand pretends that it is trying to stop illegal immigration but is unable.
@Jim:
I can vouch for part of this man’s testimony. Where I live, father/daughter bonding often takes the form of hunting lessons. The little local paper has proud photos of a ten year old girls with their successful hunt. Makes me feel safer.
Very clever, and devastating. This is linked and commented
HERE by EX-ARMY.
@Alice Teller and Joe Webb:
When I was younger, we could drive five minutes outside of town and shoot along a creek bed or into an abandoned quarry without bothering anyone. Blacks knew better than to try this, however, given the demographics of the rural midwest.
A a result, they had no place to practice, but maybe it didn’t really matter. I don’t think arksmanship was ever a part of their culture. By contrast, it was a source of pride among white Americans for centuries, as it once was a symbol of their self-reliance.
Also, blacks may tend to believe what they see on TV more than whites, including the cop show gun battles where you point a pistol at something and it drops dead.
@Hadding Scott:
But one of the problems with Europe is that, from what I can tell, they still listen to their media. Many Americans are turning away from Jewish-owned newspapers, news stations, and magazines and causing them to go under. I don’t think the same thing is happening in Europe. Heck I bet more Brits watch Keith Olbermann than Americans.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: European governments are going to start enforcing mandatory miscegenation laws. Sarkozy already hinted at this in 2009. They’re going to produce bogus studies which show that mixed-race babies are superior to single race (White, and only White) babies, that race-mixing is necessary for the society as a whole, and that it’s the moral and scientific thing to do.
I can already see all of this happening, and most Whites will go along with it. Europe already jails people for questioning the Holocaust, and they’re going to start jailing people who are against multiculturalism and miscegenation. Unlike the US, Europe has no free speech laws (although I’m sure such laws will eventually be adopted in the US, it’ll take a lot longer, and they’ll be a lot harder to implement).
@Jim:
I am more concerned about all the Mexicans the army is training. I have no objective evidence, but I heard that the cartels were sending their guys into the military for training. Can this be true?
Horowitz only left the communist party when the Oakland black panthers planned to kill him because he and the accountant discovered massive embezzlement of the federal grants; the panthers only source of non criminal income.
The panthers were created and funded by the great society. Horowitz was the communist party liason with the black panthers.
Horowitz, like his immigrant parents was a Russian communist spy and agent for the first 50 years of his life.
After the panthers got rid of him, the Israeli goverment hired him. He is not a conservative or liberal or anything. He is an unregistered lobbyist, disinformation agent and spy for the Israeli goverment.
Am I the only one who finds it more than passing strange to watch the Jewish pundits in action, left, right, orthodox, crypto, print and screen, prove that Ron Paul is a nut because he believes in conspiracies?
@Mari: news to me that Horowitz was a commie. He could have been , but the New Left backed-off the communist straight-up ideology WEstern Marxism, aka cultural marxism to some degree, was basically the name of the game. Of course, the cultural marxism was a further development of Western Marxism (which recognized Stalinism as very bad indeed. So, outright political oppression gave way to the the neo – political correctness of our time. Pee-Cee became a kind of a joke around the New Left as its referrent was the old CP.
Horowitz also…I am guessing here…took the theoretical position that the White Working Class had sold-out and that only the Third World Oppressed could become the revolutionary agent. Thus the Black Panthers were lionized …They were thugs of course, and I could see that back in ca. 1967.
Horowitz loaned RAmparts Magazine’s accountant, white female , to the Panthers, and as the story goes, she found some Irregularities in the Panther books, and was later fished out of SF Bay . That apparently turned Horowitz.
There were not many real communists around…that was a previous generation , like BAyard Rustin (sp?) of MLK fame, and a few old commies from the Hollywood blacklist times were around. Another one was Bill Mandel, who was one of strangest people I ever met…He endlessly puffed up his ego with a House Unamerican Activities Comm…speech that he gave back in the 50s. He would show up at events with a tape-recording.
Now, communist or Western Marxist, or Cultural Marxist…they all developed from the failure of the USSR and the Leninist and then Maoist model. It is important to know the theory behind these intellectual movements. They all followed from Failure of previous socialist and communist ideas. The Great march thru the Institutions was taken from Gramsci. They borrowed the Maoist Great March in China. The word “hegemony” was the watchword of the later times, and still is. Ideological Hegemony …
Well they got it to a large degree, but IT is only found amongst leftish intellectuals. Yes, it is there in the colleges but I suspect that it is going to die off with the putative left intellectuals who came of age in the 60s.
Currentlyl, I need some help here…what is going on? The anti-fas may or may not have intellectual knowledge of all of this. It may just be “infantile anarchists” who know next to nothing. I dunno.
Horowitz could have been a Leninist (a true communist..or a Trot) but I doubt it. Joe
What will follow the failure of Cultural Marxism and its Third World flunk-outs? The Jews have been part of all of this but not all of it. Cultural Marxism initially was very interested in Freud, seeking a “psychological” explanation for the failure of the working class to revolt. Of course, it was just more bunk, but it was a merrie ride for the leftie intellectuals. They are still at it now…with De-Colonization psychologizing and of course, hatred of Whiteness…There may be more, now but I am unaware of it.
The post-modern deconstructors are I think, still where its at for these folks, plus feminism. The continuing Failure of all of this leaves one marveling at the foolishness of these losers. But, it is a fallen world.
correction. it was The Long March (Mao) and the Long March thru the Institutions for the cultural marxists.
This joins the issue of how much ideology can frustrate our genes. Obviously it can but it depends on how extreme the disconnect is. That Blacks and Browns were equal to Whites was an interesting idea for fair-minded White folks. (It was for me.) Yet experience keeps on happening and thus the Idea is negated by experience. There is extensiveness and intensiveness.
When it gets real intense, the mind shifts. Etc.
This all brings to mind the issue of Globalization and its Discontents , to coin a phrase. Globalization is the main deal now. It is going to continue to erode wages here at home. .. and possibly jobs as well. Some our folks continue their chat about the Fed and LIbertarianism, while Globalization is the gorilla in the living room. YOu have probably seen the films of Orcas sneaking up on seals sparring with one-another in the surf. The Orca heaves itself up partially on the beach and grabs a seal and then humps itself back into deeper water. That is what this discourse on LIbertarianism is….Globalization is the Orca, to make it clear.
This further suggests that the Left’s analysis of Capitalism, especially Finance Capitalism, is worth taking another look at. Globalization is something the marxist economists predicted. It is not good for us. If you want to speculate on “collapse” it will be the collapse of jobs and wages and middle class salaries. All elections turn on the economy and jobs.
We need to get out in front on Globalization. LIbertarians need not apply. Joe
@Joe Webb:
“What will follow the failure of Cultural Marxism and its Third World flunk-outs?”
If Europe and America are dead, then nothing will follow it. The tribe will move its operations to Asia and start all over again: organize themselves into communities, demand their rights, marry into the elite, turn the elite against the majority, mock the organic culture and replace it with plastic culture, and wait until the people are sapped of their spirit and vitality.
@Joe Webb:
I am dubious about the racial description of Betty van Patter. From the only photo of her that I’ve seen she could easily be half-Chinese.
45). “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon
is racial tension. By pounding into the consciousness of the
dark races, that for centuries they have been oppressed by
whites, we can mold them into the program of the Communist
Party. In America, we aim for several victories. While
inflaming the Negro minorities against the whites, we will
instill in the whites a guilt complex for their supposed
exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Blacks to rise to
prominence in every walk of life and in the world of sports and
entertainment. With this prestige,, the Negro will be able to
intermarry with the whites and will begin the process which
will deliver America to our cause.” (Jewish Playwright Israel
Cohen, A Radical Program For The Twentieth Century. Also
entered into the Congressional Record on June 7, 1957, by Rep.
Thomas Abernathy). How descriptive of the culture of today.
@Tommyboy: Thanks for remembering our hero, Joe Sobran. RIP, Joe.
@Lancashire lad: RIght on.