James Edwards at AmRen
The following is the original text of the speech delivered by James Edwards to the American Renaissance Conference last weekend in Nashville, Tennessee.
Thank you, Jared, for that generous introduction, and thank you for inviting me to speak at American Renaissance 2012. The bi-annual AmRen Conference is the premier event in the cause of European-American advocacy. I’m honored to be here among my colleagues and my friends.
Let me first give you fair warning. I don’t have a silver bullet to offer you. If you came here today in hopes that any of the speakers will be giving you a previously unknown prescription that will cure what ails America, you will leave disappointed. The best I can do for you is to remind you that the political winds are fickle and can quickly change direction. Our job is to keep the pilot light burning until an opportunity presents itself to stoke the embers into an eternal flame.
Beyond that, I will talk to you about what I’ve been able to do that works and offer you practical advice that everyone can apply.
When Jared approached me about speaking here, he suggested that I talk about appealing to the mainstream, and about how I stay positive and professional, while at the same time, coming off as a “normal” guy.
Normalcy shouldn’t be overlooked. Obviously, I’m not talking about anyone here, but let’s face it, sometimes race realists can come across as either over intellectual and socially awkward, or downright angry and bitter. I’m neither. I’m not overly intellectual and one can usually find me in a good mood.
I’m often called “positive” by many folks who talk with me and email me, and I take that for the high compliment they intend it to be. God knows I’ve been called a lot worse.
Despite the odds that we currently face as White civil rights activists, I tend to operate with an overall sunny disposition. I think that it stems from the spiritual affirmation that comes from doing ones duty. I am happy to do mine.
When I’m asked what it is that we do that makes The Political Cesspool so popular, I fear I’ll find myself in the same position as the centipede who was asked by the grasshopper how he kept all his feet synchronized. The centipede thought about the question for a moment, and then he could never walk again. An analysis of my work might result in a similar paralysis.
Although, I’m proud to say, I’m happy to say that, for whatever reason, The Political Cesspool has a large audience, and it’s growing. We’ve been on the AM airwaves for eight years now and became a syndicated broadcast in 2008. My work on the radio has been covered by over 150 newspapers, magazines, and television programs that have helped us develop a reputation that I would never trade. It has truly been a wonderfully turbulent political career for me thus far.
And, despite the fact that not one of those countless reports have ever offered an objective assessment of my program, the publicity inevitably brings in curious observers. Those with working minds are able to judge for themselves what we’re really fighting for. Many of them make the right decision and stick around as fans.
Some folks tell me that they’re amazed that Memphis-based show like mine is able to survive at all. And they’re right – it is amazing. We’re a pro-White broadcast in a town with black-to-White ration of over 2:1. Memphis is now unquestionably one of the most White-hating places in America. And that might explain why we’ve been a success in Memphis; we’re the only media for White people in the city.
With charisma, flair and panache, we present our case to the everyday man on the street who we are going to have to enlist in the struggle to reclaim America’s destiny. Thankfully, we don’t have to do it alone. To help us articulate our message we regularly feature as guests men like: Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, Kevin MacDonald, Richard Spencer, Frank Borzellieri, and so many other guiding lights, many of whom are in this room.
Our formula seems to be working. We’re making our issues fashionable again, which is something that has to be done. The general public simply won’t back something that isn’t en vogue.
I can vividly remember conducting “waiting-in-line market research” with my co-host, Winston, during the early years of our run. While we stood in line at a store, or sat in a busy diner, he would talk about the show – and do so loudly enough that people in the immediate area could hear him. He would then ask a nearby person, “Have you ever listened to those guys?”
More often than not, not only were the random bystanders familiar with the program, they had a favorable opinion of our work. They were the same kinds of people (roofer’s with mortgages) who helped us chase Al Sharpton out of Confederate Park, which led to our first claim to fame in 2006, which just so happened to be the same year our program was issued a certificate of recognition from the Memphis City Council for “outstanding contributions to the community.”
And I think they are the same kinds of people who hold the key for effective White advocacy. I firmly believe that most European Americans, particularly those in the “Red States,” still fundamentally think just like we do.
I am in a unique position in which I’m fortunate enough to receive dozens of letters and emails each week from people who affirm my assessment, but I don’t think it’s naïve to trust that most European Americans know what’s wrong this country, and they know the real problems of multiculturalism.
But they don’t know what they can do about it, indeed, they don’t know if they can do something about it. For most of us, life is burdensome. We have families to support and we work our jobs to support them. We also have to work to support those who won’t work. We have homes to maintain, children to raise, spouses who need and deserve our attention, and a hundred other cares and concerns that prevent us from marching en masse when legislators pass laws that work to decrease the influence of the dispossessed majority.
And, naturally, we’re too civilized and law abiding to start riots when a White girl is kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered by a gang of diversities. Besides, we’re at the point in which it’s financially dangerous to speak out and act on behalf of our people; just ask Pat Buchanan, Jared Taylor and Frank Borzellieri. These folks, and many others, have suffered economic terrorism at the urging of people who hate White people.
And for the average work-a-day White person, it’s a huge intimidation factor: they think, “If those gentlemen can get fired for speaking frankly about racial issues, then so can I.” So, for most European Americans, visible activism and advocacy is out of the question, for now. But still, they want to do something on behalf of our people.
Pardon me for stating the obvious, but other races have advocacy and pressure groups; they’re everywhere, they’re visible, their belligerence is applauded and encouraged, they’re well-funded, and they’re entrenched. But groups that work on behalf of the interests of European-Americans are just plain scarce; it’s not difficult for us to get exposure, but national media coverage that correctly portrays our views and activities is a dream.
There’s no money in this movement. As I mentioned, we’ve been operating for nearly a decade and have enjoyed more celebrity than most, but we still have a razor thin operating budget. As organizations, we’re constantly fighting for our basic rights to exist and operate.
This very conference had been shut down twice because hateful and dishonest people didn’t want it to exist, and if it were not for the fierce defiance and leadership of Jared Taylor, we would not be here today.
When polite and racially-aware folks think of the individual and organizational leaders of White advocacy, you’d be lucky to use all of your fingers and toes. We’re fighting a difficult uphill battle, and the hill is very steep and very slippery. If advocating for European Americans was simply a matter of common sense and truth and powerful communication, then our side would have won the battle long ago.
I look out over this crowd, and I see the deepest thinkers, the most honest and clear-sighted observers, and the most eloquent and elegant communicators. But it pains me to say that it just isn’t enough. Those among us who are in public eye, those among us who are able to communicate with power and style, those among us who are allowed to make an occasional Viking raid into the establishment media, we are too few, and most of the available forums are hostile to us.
If we’re going to advocate for White people, then we’re not going to get help from the media at large. I don’t mean to say that we shouldn’t try to get time in front of TV cameras and behind radio microphones. And I’m not saying that we shouldn’t lobby and pressure politicians. We should pursue aggressively any and all avenues to answer our critics, spread our messages, and legislate our principles.
Furthermore, I think we need rethink the focus of our efforts, which for too long have consisted mainly of making a display of the shameful and shameless behavior of so-called “minorities,” and exposing the Machiavellian connivings of “dual-citizens.” Those efforts have served an important function, and thanks to them, no one can doubt or deny that the typical outrageous, barbaric, and violent Third World cultures are incompatible with European American culture.
As I once said during an interview on CNN, “You can’t have a First World nation with a Third World population.”
We’re very good at observing and analyzing these things. But it seems that the final punctuation of our comments and discussions is something to the effect of “it’s disgusting, it’s awful, it’s unacceptable,” and that’s the end of it. Our readers and listeners go away with raised blood pressure, and, I fear, a more acute sense of powerlessness.
Well, I’m supposed to talk about a winning mindset for White advocacy, and how such a mindset intersects with my work on the airwaves.
Let me first remind you how important it is to have heroes. Real heroes. I have mine. Being from the South, and more specifically, right here in Tennessee, I tend to gravitate first toward the heroes who have called my state their home.
Men like Andrew Jackson, who won the Battle of New Orleans and killed the bank. Davy Crockett, a man who left Congress to face overwhelming odds and certain death at the Alamo. Nathan Bedford Forrest, a wealthy businessman who enlisted in the Confederate Army as a soldier of the lowest rank and then, with no military training, rose to become one of the greatest tacticians in the history of warfare.
What happened to the nation that used to produce men like that?
Well, we got fat and lazy. We decided that, even though the sacrifices we must make in terms of suffering unfair defamation pales in comparison to the sacrifices made by our ancestors, we’d rather give away our inheritance than be called the “r” word. I wrote an entire book on this subject.
As a race, despite knowing the truth deep within our souls, we’ve accepted and become guilt-ridden over the grievances that non-Whites pretend to have without demanding gratitude for all of the immeasurable contributions that Whites have given to the world; contributions in science and medicine that benefit all of humanity.
But, the good news is that the same genes that animated men like Jackson, Crockett, Forrest, and so many others are still there, lying dormant within our people, just waiting to be stimulated.
I’m not suggesting that it’s possible for me or you to leave this place today and go out and accomplish superhuman feats like those men did. Thankfully, you don’t have to win battles or give your life in order to be a hero.
Being a hero starts at home. For the men in the audience today, I encourage you to be a hero by being a good husband, father, brother, and son. Walk with your shoulders square. Greet others with a firm handshake. Look people in the eye and tell the truth in love when asked of your opinion. You know your circumstances better than I do. Figure out how to best apply yourself in our righteous cause.
I hope that my work is encouraging others to do just that. I’d like to think that my radio show is about empowering our listeners. We want to give them information, we want to encourage them, we want to point out to them the doors of opportunity in dealing with the attacks on them. The Political Cesspool is about the audience. It’s about our people. And it works.
Time and time again, we get emails and snail mail from listeners, both in America and abroad, telling us how they’ve decided to run for local office, to go to law school, to throw away their television sets, to pull their kids out of public school and to homeschool them, how they’ve decided to marry their girlfriend or boyfriend and have babies and teach their children to love and be proud of their race.
This is heroism and it’s effective White advocacy. Be a hero to your immediate family and to your extended family, keeping in mind that your race is your extended family.
When White people love their race, we can be an effective bunch. I told you about how the White people of Memphis sent Al Sharpton packing. In 2007, the Senate was poised to approve George W. Bush’s Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, an amnesty bill that included a one-block long “road to citizenship” for the millions of illegal aliens in the country.
But the day before the vote, ordinary European Americans, just like those who make my audience, melted down the Senate phone bank. Just this week, we’re seeing that advertisers are bailing out of the primetime ABC TV show Good Christian Bitches. The advertisers are leaving because average White people are taking quiet and implicitly pro-White action, and you can bet that the people contacting those advertisers are White, because that’s what the show depicts; any program that demeans or humiliates European American will not be opposed by non-Whites; quite the opposite, in fact.
As I said earlier, the task of White advocacy is too big for just those who are considered the “leaders” or the “guiding lights.’ And cataloging the outrages against White people isn’t enough. Most European Americans, including the self-proclaimed liberals who live in their gated suburban enclaves, know how bad multiculturalism is. We’ve done a great job in making sure they know it. Nature has done us one better.
Now we need to tell our people how good they are, and that they can and must take on the task of White advocacy. They are the best advocates, and we need them to know that contending for our race, loving our race, is a generational endeavor. For loving our race is the winning mindset for effective White advocacy.
Click on the links below for additional coverage of the American Renaissance 2012 Conference:
OFFICIAL REPORT: AmRen Conference Held in Tennessee
American Renaissance Conference makes news
Gerald Martin: A First Timer’s View of an American Renaissance Conference
Facing the Future as a Minority
Have you read what Robert Weissberg advised White Nationalists if they want to gain acceptance {by those who issue acceptance badges] among wider population? Well, we have to wean ourselves of the anti-semitism and the road to success may,possibly be considered,not necessarily given,but could be at least dangled above our grateful eyes.To begin my frothy fulmination I am furious to see the people writing about the Conference praising ,even shyly licking the hand of the dear professor.Across my whole life I have observed that virtually nothing with a chance to be something can grow and thrive without Jewish advice and eventual leadership. No matter how remote ,marginal or esoteric the idea-by the time it reaches public it has a Jew sweetly smiling and pointing to himself on its top.And so with ostensibly European-American movement that clearly excludes semites-they come in,to help.They have to,because otherwise we’ll bungle the task,will neglect to give it the proper shine and it will flop.It’s the Weissberg Effect.I advise American Renaissance to invite next year a black speaker to promise them that they can count on “our negro brothers” if we stop complaining about having to carry them like an incubus on our backs.For pragmatic reasons it would be welcomed as sound improvement.You cannot have any Renaissance with Jews in it-that is the whole point:to shake off the tar-baby,or should I say weissbaby.
@protorenaissance
I think we can catagorically state that Jewish involvement in even tacitly supporting a White Nationalist movement is an oxymoron. Nor is it desirable. Also, I would deny entirely that our movement as it stands is anti-Semitic. We are not hating anyone or ‘anti’ anything. That label is just freely applied to any works or actions which acknowledge the Jewish Question – that is to say, the ongoing destructive nature of a large proportion of Jews in our cultural, political, and economic life.
@Arthur: I understand.Not hate but decidedly- separatism,right? Honestly,I don’t hate anybody for belonging to any ethnicity or race. That would be silly. However -to build a Nation of one race,of one root ,without “permanent residents” who are not of us, with us,always secretly apart- that is not acceptable.Would you agree?
“Anti-Semitic” has been so over-used, I don’t know anymore what it means to me, but any criticism of Jews is labeled anti-Semitic and I do criticize them.There is something of truth in it when I look into my heart-I don’t like their history,their methods, their ethos.I would rather have my country entirely without them.
@protorenaissance
Robert Wiessburg’s advise would be certain death for any pro white movement. How could we keep the enemy at bay in the hidden race war by consorting with them? They would only sabotage or take over the movement. It is best to have nothing to do with the Jew exclude them totally from anything whites do in their personal lives or as a group when you hear them shriek you know your on the right track. Black evolution has been interrupted by exploitation, the chosen ones being at the forefront, we should decouple from blacks and let them continue their journey.
“There’s no money in this movement. As I mentioned, we’ve been operating for nearly a decade and have enjoyed more celebrity than most, but we still have a razor thin operating budget. As organizations, we’re constantly fighting for our basic rights to exist and operate.”
This situation is a disgrace to us and our cause What is the problem? A stinginess in donating by us? Lack of fund raising skills? Regularly donating money does not even involve the pesonal risk of street activism or exposing ones views such as James does.
@Ritchard: “we should decouple from blacks and let them continue their journey. ” I do like this quote!!! The un-natural, perverse coupling needs to stop.Their Journey has been deformed by allowing the slave-holding and the rest that followed. They should be granted the same right as we demand- to be left alone,homogenous existence that would not be measured constantly against white standards.In such country they could have all the do-gooders that cannot sleep a wink without charitable deeds,endless generosity,compassion and care .They should live together.They need each other.
This keynote speaker at AmRen is a cause for concern. Anybody who doesn’t believe that just about any movement can be co-opted beyond recognition need not look further than the “tea party”, which began as a rather edgy, implicitly white, virulently anti-establishment groundswell, only to be duly rehashed into an obsequious wing of the itself co-opted Republican party. A true kitsch of an opposition movement if there ever was one! Accordingly, the newly manicured and presentable-in-polite-Washington-company tea party message has been condensed to snivels about high taxes and a few butter knife swipes at the size of the federal government (without, of course, touching the behemoth war machine). Even forgetting explicitly white interests for a moment, when will someone notice that the Jewish elite has utterly destroyed and corrupted every institution they have gotten their hands on. Can we stop listening to them yet?
I commend Mr. Edwards for framing the discussion in terms of the fate of European (emphasis) Americans and not strictly as a political project for reclaiming a “once great country.” I can speak for many of my fellow dwellers in “the rest of the world” in saying that what is it stake here is the fate of our race, of our European heritage and not, by any stretch of the imagination, the American political experiment. Since about the time Woodrow Wilson was driving a stake into the heart of the Habsburg Empire (in the name of democracy, of course), America as a political entity was worthy of being bundled up with the Monday morning trash. Fighting to regain the levers of power in the Colonies is pointless. Mr. Edwards is correct: it begins with the family, and with regaining honor, honesty, courage.
I don’t disagree strongly with anything I have read here, so I hope the eloquent James Edwards will allow me to post a slightly off-topic comment which will nevertheless be of some interest to him and other readers of this thread:
@ fender:
Fender,
I agree absolutely with Kevin MacDonald when he says that most American Jews don’t think of themselves as White:
Instances of this Jewish hostility toward White American culture, particularly its Christian ethos, are too numerous to ignore. To take the two most notorious examples of this animosity toward Whites:
Even more aggressive in its tone toward White culture is this quote:
Having said all this, however, I would prefer it if Ashkenazi Jews were referred to as quasi-Whites (= “AS IF” Whites) rather than NON-WHITES, given that they are indistinguishable from Whites if you examine the color of their skins.
Just take a look at Israeli supermodel Bar Rafaeli and tell me if you think it makes sense to call her “non-White”. To me she looks positively ARYAN!!!
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Great conference guys, congratulations! By the way, we hear a lot about self hating whites, but have you noticed that it is missing white girls or white children that get most of the media attention? They are able to sustain the interest of a mass audience for months. Missing blacks or Hispanics don’t come close. It’s become so obvious that they joke about it on Saturday night live. No big insight here, but it is interesting that on some deep level whites still value other whites more than other races.
So, is Jared Taylor still inviting jews to his ‘white’ conference?
I did not see the word ‘jew’ in Edwards’ speech.
It seems that for all his tough talk, he is just another coward.
At least Dr. David Duke always spells out who the problem is…….the jewelry.
Correction. THE JEW
@protorenaissance:
So true LOL
@Bear:
“There’s no money in this movement”
This is both good and bad, the death of the nuclear family due to “equality” and the concommitant neglect of children has/is producing a generation of whites who have low self esteem, guilt ridden, and unsuccessful (Birth Order Degeneration) This is good because it increases the number of us who correctly identify WHY they are unsuccessful….However it’s bad because….we’re broke.
Answer; create a closed economic loop…trade ONLY with whites. Boycott the whole *&^%& world.
Jews have small families, high self esteem, Loads of money.
@Jason Speaks:
Good point..everyone likes white.
@buff:
The problem is bigger than just the Jews. imo
@buff
Edwards mentioned “appealing to the mainstream” early in his speech. Appealing to the mainstream means not telling people much that they don’t already believe.
We are in a war for survival. It is not about “rights.” It is not about “equality.” It is not about “fairness.” It is not about the Constitution, the government, the economy or the country. It’s about survival.
It does no good to point out to the Jews of how they advocate one thing for the west – like diversity – and another thing for Israel. That’s water off a duck’s back to them. They want their cake and eat it to. They are beyond the obvious.
Our battle with the Jews is an undeclared genocidal war.
We cannot argue the merits of right or wrong. We cannot argue how much good we do (when we are not fighting Israel’s wars) or how the world benefits from western invention, science and technology. The Jews are unmoved by logic.
Heaping blessings and good will on them means nothing. They have us slated for extinction and no argument of ours can change that.
Pat Buchanan wrote a book he called ” Suicide of a Super Power.” It would have been more accurate to title it “The Genocide of a Super Power.” We are trapped in a genocidal war whether we like it or not.
Jews level hideous and unfounded charges at us like “hate, prejudice, intolerance. Unfounded charges are not why they want us destroyed. We always think there must be a valid reason why bad things take place. But Jews don’t need to justify themselves. They hate us because of what we are. We are creative people. We share our abundance with others. We are good. we exist. That’s sufficient.
Don’t forget this is the same position the Jews had with Jesus Christ. The Lord was righteous. He was compassionate. He did good things for people. The Jews hated Him for what He was. They had Him crucified.
We did not ask for this genocidal war, but there is nothing we can do to change it. We could point to all the reasons in the world why the Christian west should live, but such arguments are futile. The Jews are on a one way path committed to annihilating the west and we had better get off our hind legs and start fighting.
@Heather Blue:
problem is, only a few people seem willing to recognize the situation. Mainstream political leaders appear either in a trance or rationalizing that they are doing what they can behind the scenes. Self delusion of course.
I don’t know where some of you people get your information?
I’ve listened to the Political Cesspool radio program for years, almost since it became available on the internet. Let me tell you this, James Edwards, and, the Cesspoolians have never given the Jews or Israel a pass. They are even critical of the local Jew Congressman, how many of you get on the radio and slap around a Jew Congressperson? LOL. C’mon.
I went to college South of the Mason Dixon Line many years ago, and listening to James, and his pals is a pure & wonderful treat in nostalgia for me. It’s like having my dear old friends in my study on Saturday night.
Having a positive mental attitude, and being proud of our ancestors is very important, but, it does exclude many Whites who do not share our pioneer heritage & ancestry. This maybe the source of some sour grapes.
A reminder that AmRen is not Judenfrei but is rather welcoming of them (Jews).
For Taylor & Co it’s all about color and IQ. They don’t care if they find themselves dominated by a racial minority as long as that minority is Ashkenazi.
Here’s a brief video of Robert Weissberg breaking bread at AmRen 2000. Observe how he creates common ground with the Sons of Dixie. He informs them that when Jews refer to Blacks as “Schwarze” they’re not using the term in the derogatory sense that is implied by the word “Nigger” but, instead, the Jews are using their term in a caring and altruistic sense that depicts Blacks as people in need of help and guidance. Weissberg then concludes his mission to the goyim (for that year) by connecting his version of Jewish attitudes to Blacks to that of the traditional South, which in a moment of blinding chutzpah, is one that, under his guidance, is suddenly rationalized and shared between the Jews and the South.
How long before we see the Stars and Bars of David at AmRen….
@buff:
Buff, keep the guns pointed at the enemy at all times. Taylor makes a massive contribution to White consciousness that would happen if he were just another Stormfront or National Vanguard who are anathema to many that haven’t achieved consciousness. He is certainly no coward given the attacks on him, his income and his family. Those people drawn to Amren are testing the waters. People will soon correlate who is attacking Amren and Taylor are the usual suspects and finally open their eyes.
Amren isn’t the answer but it is a help not a hinderance and our enemies need to know we tried the nice polite way.
@Henry Baxley:
Indeed, an excessive focus on Jews can be counter productive, however I tend to think that they are the source of at least 75% of the hostillity we are subject to. Apart from Hollywood and publishing we see that even our history is now being rewritten by Jewish academics in a way so as to subtly depracate it and turn it into a part of the ‘road to the holocaust’ narrative. However we must not forget the tendancy of many of our own kind to be indifferent to our racial survival, to exploit race destroying immigration to lower wages, to sell out to jewish interests for the sake of carear and to be so moronic as to ‘altruistically punish’ other whites because they have succomed. There will be a time we will be altruistically punishing.
@Hooper: Your post-mortem report on tea-party is simply matchless. Only truth can be expressed with clarity.
They killed tea-party,now they are infecting AmRen.There must have been an agreement that nobody shall mention The Jews.Why have they met,then?We already have plenty of voices that bemoan our plight in the media providing that they like AmRen do not name the culprit.The only truly stirring remark was made by the Comanche- man-up! Our Heather Blue is perfectly right in her assessment: trying to reason,convince with facts and truth those bastards is pointless for all the reasons she spelled out.American Revolution was not won by diplomacy and , however justified pleadings.The holy name of the first saint in our struggle should be Mr. Boycott.And the boycott should be going in every direction,cutting off everything.What a Joyous Task!
@Bear:
This situation is a disgrace to us and our cause What is the problem? A stinginess in donating by us? Lack of fund raising skills? Regularly donating money does not even involve the pesonal risk of street activism or exposing ones views such as James does.
But how do potential donors to a pro-White cause know, truly know, that their money will be well-spent.
How does a person know that a pro-White organization won’t use their money on personal things?
I asked this question once before, and Ward Kendall responded by saying that he believes a lot of money has been misused in the past by different pro-White organizations. If I’m paraphrasing him wrong, hopefully he or someone else will correct me.
Why should the average White person, who is not wealthy and who does not have tons of money to spare, give to any cause without being 100% certain that his money is being properly spent?
I’m not suggesting that T.O.O. or AmRen or any other pro-White organization misuses or wastes donation money. I have no idea. And that’s my point. Is there a way for people to know their donations will be used properly and maximized to help White people?
The quotes below are taken from various posters here:
”To begin my frothy fulmination I am furious to see the people writing about the Conference praising ,even shyly licking the hand of the dear (Jewish) professor.”
Licking the Jew’s hand is what Jared Taylor does. It’s what he’s always done. It’s what he will continue to do, just so long as the donations keep rolling in. It’s even been rumored that his rarely-seen wife is a Jew, which, if true, would explain a great deal. Whatever the case, Taylor has publicly stated that he “has no problem with Jews”. So, if you don’t like Taylor’s Jew-friendly stance, vote with your dollar and stop buying his books.
”Robert Wiessburg’s advise would be certain death for any pro white movement. How could we keep the enemy at bay in the hidden race war by consorting with them? They would only sabotage or take over the movement. It is best to have nothing to do with the Jew.”
If you oppose involvement with the Jews, then, by extension, you should oppose any and all who consort with them (Taylor, Edwards, Duke, Black, Fromm, Kurtagic, Spencer, MacDonald, etc.) ALL sit among the Jews at AmRen conferences. How to get them to stop? Simple – stop buying their books. Stop donating money. Believe me, when it comes to that golden cash flow, they’ll ditch the Jews before they ditch the moola.
”This keynote speaker at AmRen is a cause for concern.”
Yes, indeed. Remember, that Jew didn’t just end up there by “accident”. He was paid with money taken from donated funds to AmRen. That means YOUR money. Seriously, do you think any Jew is going to show up for free?
”So, is Jared Taylor still inviting jews to his ‘white’ conference? I did not see the word ‘jew’ in Edwards’ speech. It seems that for all his tough talk, he is just another coward. At least Dr. David Duke always spells out who the problem is…….the jew. ”
David Duke enables Jews in their infiltration of AmRen by the very act of attending such conferences. Just one time did Duke ever oppose them, and was properly and thorougly spanked by Taylor, causing Duke to suck in his balls and be a good boy ever since. So now he just sits there and refuses to denounce the Jews standing up in the Church of AmRen pulpit, telling him and everyone else how to be a better advocate for white interests. That said, should you be calling James Edwards a “coward” and not David Duke as well?
”Edwards mentioned “appealing to the mainstream” early in his speech. Appealing to the mainstream means not telling people much that they don’t already believe.”
Are you mystified? By “appealing to the mainstream” one can squeeze more money from more wallets. That’s why AmRen is pro-Jew and that’s why those who attend are gradually allowing more and more of them into their ranks. The solution? Again, cut off the money supply to ANYONE who consorts with Jews, as well as ANYONE who aids and abets them by attending functions where Jews are treated as allies and friends (Duke, Black, etc.)
”Let me tell you this, James Edwards, and, the Cesspoolians have never given the Jews or Israel a pass.”
Oh, but he has. Simply by attending the AmRen conference and accepting Jews into what should be a Jew-free, pro-white conference is, in itself, an act of giving them a pass. True, once back on the radio and milking donations again, he’ll tell you what you want to hear about the “evil Jews” – until next year’s AmRen eat-meat-and-retreat where he’ll once again dine with the stars…er…Jews.
”A reminder that AmRen is not Judenfrei but is rather welcoming of them (Jews).
But of course. Jared Taylor is 100% pro-Jew. He always has been. Being anti-Jew is for the proletariat out there in the sticks. Sophisticated white nationalists know otherwise. They just hope you never wake up to that fact.
”For Taylor & Co it’s all about color and IQ. They don’t care if they find themselves dominated by a racial minority as long as that minority is Ashkenazi.”
You got it – by Jove you’ve got it!
”Taylor makes a massive contribution to White consciousness.”
More like a massive contribution to his bank account after counting all the cash from selling his latest Jew-friendly book and counting up all the Internet donations.
I’ve said it for years but I’ll say it again: donating money without demanding accountability from those you donate to is utter foolishness. My advice: tell the David Dukes and Jared Taylors and Alex Kurtagics that there can be no consorting with Jews – ever. Tell them – or cut off the donations and simply dry them up.
Believe me, the next feeble breeze will blow them away.
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The answer is: they don’t know. What’s more, that’s just how those asking for donations want it. Really, where’s the fun in raking in free money, then having the contributors actually demanding how you blow it…er…in how you spend it? It’s why Duke went to prison. No innocent man would have pled guilty.
I agree with Mr. Kendall’s statement. Something should be done so Jews can’t take over our movement.
Come on guys. Nothing gets past God. I donate in good faith – and forget it. Like Church. I don’t make my Church give an account of every cent I give. We certainly don’t make the Jews give an account of all the money they swindle from us.
If you are not raising cane about the Jews stealing our money then keep quiet about our struggling pro-white organizations.
@Richard:
Fundementally it doesn’t matter that some part of donations to the White cause will be imperfectly spent. The key is that some of it gets through and that we build a White advocacy infrastructure of massive proportions to dwarf that of our enemies. If 10% of White Americans donated $10/month and if only $2.50 got through there would be massive transformation and better than most charities. We need professional White advocates with a good income; these people of bet their carears and deserve solid underpinning and support, we need to build an infrastucture, we need a pile of cash standing by to conduct legal challenges, protect those who are being victimised and conduct campaigns.
Donate and stop worrying some of it doesn’t get spent inperfectly. I’d donate a pile of bucks to David Duke right now he deserves a decent quality of life as does Proff McDonald. The ADL and Foxman want not for money.
My understanding of the key-note speaker’s message was this: let the Whites protect the Jews when the Darkies start rioting against the collapsing System.Is that it? And the cheering,”loving” audience applauded- we will!
I grew up in a jewish suburb, live in a jewish neighborhood and work in a jewish industry. Every Jew I have known in 50 years has always said when asked, “I’m not White, I am Jewish.
The reason I went to work in a jewish industry is because affirmative action totally ran me out of my first occupation, a civil service job.
Resenting the court orders and lawsuits that forced a difficult career change in my early 30′s with 2 very young children to support, I made a list of all the judges and more than 800 attorneys involved in the affirmative action lawusuits,the appeals and the numerous pro affirmative action friends of the court briefs.
92 percent of the more than 800 anti White affirmative action attorneys had obviously jewish names.
I did not count names like Becker and Kaufmann, just the Rosens, Silvers, Golds, Steins etc.
That’s all I need to know about jews. Ruined my life and my first career. Were it not for a special talent and a few contacts I and my young children might have ended up homeless because of affirmative action.
Homeless of course because due to jewish attorneys Whites cannot obtain sec 8, projects or other goverment housing.
That list of anti White affirmative action jewish attorneys is all I know about jews and all I need to know about jews.
They hate me and mine. They have made it illegal to hire me and legal to murder, rob or rape me if the criminal is black because I am White.
@Ward Kendall:
I do wish that you and Alex Linder et al. would get off Taylor’s back about this. That was from the Donahue show of almost a decade ago.
Taylor has deliberately limited his focus. I don’t have a problem with that, because he doesn’t try to tell other people that they should limit their focus too, and he doesn’t try to dissociate himself from people that do venture more boldly, or tell others that they should do so.
Even the so-called white nationalists in France, LePen, are trying to lick the hands of the jews,
It is sickening. How can we condemn blacks and hispanics when we are hopeless controlled by these jews, It is disgusting.
@Jake: I too agree with Mr. Kendall and disagree with Mr.Scott.
Limiting the scope is one thing,inviting a Jew for a key-note no less is turning his organization demonstrably into Judeo-American Renaissance.Just the one we need.That is not limiting scope -that is pouring gefilte fish into the mixer when we make chocolate.First law of logic states that “A” is an “A” and white means white -not weissberg and white.This is a violation of Identity Law in logic and our lives.Recognition that “it’s Jews,stupid” is essential.
@protorenaissance
The white race is hopeless:
if what protorenaissance wrote is the truth.
@Heather Blue:
You should be asking your church for a general accounting of how they spend your money. We all need to hold the charities we donate to accountable. When they know they won’t even be asked, that is when corruption grows up.
@Ward Kendall:
We should all demand transparency from the groups we donate to. But you are insinuating that all this money is being misspent by these pro-White groups without providing any real evidence. You are more or less accusing virtually everyone in the pro-White movement of being on the take for money. Is there really wide spread evidence for that?
On the accusation of “consorting” with Jews, I suppose it depends on the context. It is virtually impossible to hold a job or do business in the US without engaging with every single race known to mankind. Just holding a job in corporate America puts you in daily contact with Indians, Jews, Asians and blacks. Now, if it is of a more serious nature (like some hidden agenda) that is something else. But even getting technical expertise from whomever has it may not be illegitimate, even if that person is non-White, if that is the best source. But, I would agree it’s dicey if it involves sensitive areas.
On Amren – I don’t really mind what they do because from what I can tell, they are open about it. As far as I can tell, they are open about their beliefs and act in a manner consistent with them. I think by ignoring the Jewish role they miss a lot, but they don’t mislead anyone.
You are implying that most of these characters are just trying to squeeze some money from gullible pro-White people out here. But is being pro-White a way to make money? I can’t see that the books really sell that well. The audience for it is still quite small.
Your first sentence states that we should demand ‘accountability’ to those we donate to.
I heartily agree.
As for your second sentence, I do “suggest” that abuse might be endemic in the charitable field of white nationalism. That’s because there hasn’t been accountability. You see, honest people never get angry or defensive when asked to account for money freely given them. They simply smile and open up the books. Any church or any organization that refuses to do so has something to hide.
This is serious business – trying to halt the flow of non-white masses into this country. It will take titanic effort and titantic integrity on the part of every WN leader to avoid mistrust, scandal, and prison. Some leaders have already failed this test of integrity. Knowing what’s at stake, isn’t it to our advantage to make sure that no inappropriate use of funds is taking place?
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I want to clarify something about my previous comment.
I’m not suggesting that people should withhold donations to pro-White organizations.
I’m trying to say that I think pro-White organizations would receive a lot more donations if there was a way for donors to know (truly know) that their money is being used morally and wisely.
I’m not sure that is even possible. But I want to include it in the discussion, maybe as a long-term aim.
On an unrelated note, it’s so good just to be on this site. To read the articles and comments.
Thanks to all the people who make it possible. I wonder at how much love and effort has been put into this movement, over decades; how much sacrifice and personal suffering people have endured.
Take care, everyone. Have a good weekend.
The first time I read about Taylor the story mentioned he is jew friendly. That is all I needed to know about him and ignore is site and conference. Claiming Duke is bad because he goes is a stretch. James Edwards should not have shared a stage with a jew though. Not attacking jews is one thing but allowing one to be the key note speaker is beyond the pale.
If you have money to spend on the cause think about a targeted direct mailing of your own making. Buy some stickers with the message you like best and post em anywhere you want. Talk really loud about the problem everywhere you go if money is tight. White people are more receptive now than before.
At this point spending your money on a local level to wake up your white neighbors is probably better than sending anything to anyone.
@buff: “The white race is hopeless” – I would say, exasperating, infuriating,contentious,vainglorious when arguing,snooty but not hopeless.With all their faults I stand in awe over the matchless achievements that race created.What a Rose of Million Petals is our Occidental heritage!
Now we are going to let her wither and die because we are afraid to be scalded by a boss.Have we never heard of courage?
@Ward Kendall:
Please, this is politics, and James Edwards had an opportunity to address an audience, and that’s what he did. That’s what politics is all about, you see your opportunities to get your message out, and you take them.
As far as money goes I hope Taylor paid James a generous honorarium for speaking, and his expenses too.
In my personal contributions, I give to guys with serious demonstrated work ethic.
@Hadding Scott:
Jared Taylor made this rod for his own back and has reaffirmed his commitment to working with Jews many times since: how else should one view his willingness to give Jews a platform in order to influence and mislead white nationalists through AmRen?
Taylor’s acceptance of Jews and his decision not to name and blame is an ongoing stab in the back for all those who practice zero tolerance of them: as this undermines efforts to remove the Jews from the world of fantasy they’ve created in which they present themselves as eternal victims of irrational hatreds and thus conceal their true nature, which, to our cost, is driven by a group pathology of destruction.
DD and KM and the rest are GIANTS. They speak out and take the heat for it. But you know something? I do not consider DD or KM antisemitic, and I mean that in all honesty. They never speak of harming or disrespecting Jewish people; they speak the truth as they see it. I think the single biggest problem is that the Jewish people have been allowed to get away with this crap because we ALLOWED them to get away with this crap. Most people don’t even care if the Jews run the world. Of course, they wake up one day as a minority in a country that was once their own and THEN the shit will hit the fan, the guns will come out, and there will be hell to pay. They can’t SEE it yet. In California we can see it, since we’re the canaries in the coal mine.
@Henry: Total agreement here.Someone named Tom ,just above explains it away,or thinks he does as just playing politics,while using the open chance to deliver “the message”. Read that powerful message.Was it worth delivering? No teeth,not even mentioning our Goal of forming a Nation without non-whites[that includes the Dear Professor ] ? Misleading,distorting,obfuscating is politics,no doubt.In that case the political way of achieving our goal is not right. They all looked like the Esperanto champions in wheel-chairs shaking their walkers and colostomy bags to the approving gaze of the ambassador of Real Power,Weissberg himself.No,friends- AmRen by twining with Jews is carrying a Wrong Message.
Heather Blue- “raising cane”
Because Cain was the first murderer in the Bible, having killed his brother Abel, people use the expression “raising Cain” to describe acts of violence, criminal activity, or any other mischievous acts.
@protorenaissance:
When’s the last time you gave a speech to more than 100 people? You don’t get it sonny, you are as big a jackoff as Taylor. Only in another way.
I wouldn’t be so hard on Taylor, especially if his wife is Jewish. He’s an eloquent man, and he does his best I think. There is a place for everybody. Taylor is urbane and reserved, and able to get some attention from the MSM. Then, on the other end, are the guys with guns who are ready to shoot people. I think that if playing nice doesn’t work, the guns will come out. I’m sorry to have to say this, but this is my gut feeling.
Men whose ancestors fought for this country will eventually wake up and say, “Enough!”
Jared Taylor is a very eloquent spokesman for our people. We have to be open to different strategies. If he could build an effective White movement doing what he does, we should all be happy. Certainly the fact that a Jew spoke at AmRen and some Jews attend, as they have for years, doesn’t mean that they can deflect AmRen from its goal of advocating for Whites. And James Edwards is a very intelligent, very effective radio host. He has already accomplished a great deal, and I have great hopes for him in the future.
I have been a big fan of the Political Cesspool since around 2007. I have all the respect in the world for these guys. When I first started listening I thought they were great, but they had all the polish of a ham radio operator. James now sounds like an experienced MSM radio broadcaster! He’s got a voice that was made for radio.
James Edwards has been busting his hump for eight long years, creating a great show from scratch with his own dime that gets the word out to tens of thousands of people every week. What’s not to like about the guy?
It’s a shame that Edwards didn’t elaborate more on the “Machiavellian connivings of ‘dual-citizens’”, but as others have noted, that would have discomfited a share of the attendees.
I liked Weissberg’s candour on Jewish attitudes towards blacks. It would be great to quiz him on his parents and grandparents’ attitudes towards goyim. Perhaps one would have had to go to a black-power meeting to hear those quirky anecdotes and insider jokes. Weissberg, not Weissbrot.
@Scott Mollett: Well said. Those suspicious of co-opting can mount their own awareness campaigns without diluting the message.
How to spot BIG BROTHER anywhere, anytime;
He’s the one DRIVING the band-wagon.
He is usually oblivious as to where it’s going, and/or why its going there, He just wants to drive. (most..no, ALL elected politicians)
At a lynching, he’s the big guy instigating the mob.
At a Demo-pubic political function, he’s the tall, good looking guy in the red, yellow, green, blue, or stripped tie. (could even be polkadot or multicolored)
In the break room, he’s the one who says “how bout them Cowboys!” (49ers, Eagles, Yankies, etc.) when a black enters.
In church he’s usually the preacher.
In the outdoors he’s the big guy wetting his finger and sticking it in the wind.
At a Cocktail Party he’s the Tall handsome guy with his hand on your wifes leg.
At a natural disaster he’s the one holding you upside down and shaking you.
in a newsroom, he’s the tall, goodlooking guy sitting at the anchors desk.
He is NOT usually a Jew.
He is usually, but not always, a first born child of upper class parents.
His name could be anything, like Morris Dees, or Brad Pitt for example. A born (mob) leader. Beware of him. He is a spider and a snake
@TabuLa Raza:
Tabula Raza, I realized my error after I hit the submit button. But there is no edit feature on this site. When a mistake is made we are kind of stuck with it.
Indeed, I should have said “raising Cain” instead of raising cane. But you know, I appreciate you stating the history of “raising Cain.” It’s interesting. Sometimes, we use words or phrases our entire lives without knowing why we use them.
Back to donations….I have not done much lately, but at one time or another I have made donations to several pro-white web sites and organizations. I consider it a moral duty to our Race and culture. That’s the least any of us can do!
These men are fighting a war against our existence. They work hard at it. They are honorable men. They are not thieves like the Jews. Only one individual I gave money to proved untrustworthy, but he had some mental issues which is something he couldn’t help.
I scarcely know what to make of those individuals who complain about the money donated to white men working to get the truth out to the white majority. Jews rip us off for billions, trillions of dollars and use it trying to exterminate the white race and civilization. Yet, certain individuals never fail to bring up questions about the pitiful little peanut donations we make to white men who are sticking their necks out for us. I don’t know if it is a deliberate attempt to interfere with donations to our Cause or just plain stupidity.
@mari:
OK, What was your former Profession?
Speaking of lawyers I was reading about Kunstler at Wiki
today. When he croaked he was defending the ‘Blind Sheik’.
Made a name with the black panthers etc.
@Ritchard: Tanstaafl appeared on Carolyn Yeager’s Voice of Reason Broadcast Network Show, The Heretics Hour recently – and they were both discussing the subject of jews trying to insert themselves into the pro-White, White Nationalist community – and Tanstaafl was citing Paul Gottfried as one prime example of this infiltration effort.
Tanstaafl devoted a few minutes of discussion to an article that Gottfried had written that was parroting the mainstream jewish criticisms of Professor Kevin MacDonald, where Gottfried was pretty much following his tribe’s formula of calling him an ‘anti-Semite’ and accusing him of being delusional, with regards to his outstanding work that exposes the jewish role in the attempted genocide of the White European majority in America.
Tanstaafl correctly stated that Whites are in a racial struggle for their survival and that jews and other races are members of the opposing teams – and therefore, neither jews or other non-white races have any business trying to join OUR TEAM, and nor should we tolerate them attempting to do so. I concur with that position 100 percent.
It should be noted that James Edwards and the Cesspool gang seem to have been snake bitten by Gottfried and they consider him to be a ‘good jew’. And, despite the fact that their ‘good jew’ has been trying to smear and discredit Professor Kevin MacDonald and his impeccable contributions to unraveling the truth about the dominant jewish role in the genocidal war of race displacement and replacement in America and in literally every other historic White European nation. At the same time, Paul Gottfried tries to deny and downplay the role that his fellow jews have played in these anti-white policies and agendas and push the Jared Taylor line of baloney that whites are suicidal and it’s all their fault that their race is on the verge of being rendered extinct.
Thus, here we have two great examples: Gottfried and Weissberg, two jews who have managed to snooker their way into the ‘pro-White’ community, and as we could have easily predicted – both of them are working as gate keepers who’s objective it is to steer the discussion and debate away from the jewish role in the on-going genocide war that is being waged against Whites. Another example would be Ilana Mercer, but in her case, Keith Alexander of the Cesspool gang seems to be able to see through her deception. Tanstaafl also cited Lawrence Auster as another example and he also follows the same basic template.
Hence, I think that it is pretty obvious that any time we are stupid enough to permit a member of the opposition’s team to ‘join’ our team, once they are inside our camp – they will continue to work for the ethnic specific interests of their tribe and not ours.
Oh, and I think that what Jared Taylor really meant, when he suggested that James Edwards speech focus on appealing to the ‘mainstream’ – was that his speech should avoid criticizing jews. Well, giving enemy #1 a pass and thinking that it will make any difference in the end – thinking that it will provide us with a shield against being called ‘racists’ and ‘White Supremacists’ and ‘anti-Semites’, this is not going to work and this enemy will still attack and smear us with those labels.
Jared Taylor, of all people, should realize that – because his strategy of avoiding this issue has not provided him with any teflon coating.
@Henry: Well stated, Brother Henry. Taylor is a very intelligent and well educated man, so I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt – and assume that he must understand the tactics that jews have consistently used throughout history, i.e., keeping a sharp eye out for any real or perceived opposition to their agenda, and then dispatching their moles to try to infiltrate and seize control of their opposition and then steer it into directions which continue to serve jewish interests.
For this reason, I believe that Taylor must think that he can somehow benefit our cause from cutting deals with the very enemy who seeks our destruction. I have no faith in that tactical strategy and I believe that the historical evidence supports my position.
@Ward Kendall: I think that there is substantial and extremely credible evidence that jews themselves do not consider themselves to be ‘White’.
In fact, when challenged – they will often get very emphatic about this point. Reference 60 Minutes and the interview that Mike Wallace did with some black Hollywood celebrity who’s name I cannot recall at the moment.
Also, for those jews in the mainstream media who are part ‘White’ – I think it is safe to say that these are the jews who we often hear spewing the most vitriolic anti-White venom of all. It’s as though these jews are a simmering caldron of festering hatred – and they despise the White genes that they have inside their bodies.
The key question always ought to be: is this person moving our people toward, or away from the truth?
Jared Taylor is running a racialist kindergarten. That’s fine. Some people need that. I heard Taylor on a show a few months ago when some woman called in and asked him about the Jewish Question and he said that it’s a worthwhile field of inquiry, but it’s not what he does. I understand that and I accept it.
Taylor does not do what the John Birch Society has always done, which is to tell people that kindergarten is all that there is and that they should never try to progress beyond it. The Birch Society and anybody that does that is indeed blocking advancement toward the truth.
In general, there is nothing wrong with teaching a part of the truth unless that part is represented as the whole. It is impossible to teach the entirety of any complex matter all at once. People learn through stages.
I will also say that the people who heap abuse upon those who are trying to assimilate a portion of the truth, just because they haven’t come all the way yet, are also blocking advancement toward the truth. They are like a gang of older kids that throws rocks at the kindergarteners, tells them that they are a bunch of babies, and chases them away. It goes without saying that they shouldn’t throw rocks at the kindergarten-teacher either.
@Tom: “When’s the last time you gave a speech to more than 100 people? You don’t get it sonny, you are as big a jackoff as Taylor. Only in another way.” In fact I do.It is part of what I have to do to fulfill the expectation of my profession.What that question has to do with the subject at hand I don’t know.Calling me condescendingly “sonny” not knowing my age was a gratuitous snarl and “jackoff” was from outside of the civilization I belong to .
If the editors read these comments then thank you for the previous two featured articles, On the Path to Practical Politics & A Winning Mindset for Effective Advocacy. May I say, that in my opinion, this is what we need. More info & guidance in what we as individual White folk can do each day in our own circles to advance our cause, and carry ourselves as better Aryans. Practical everyday actions that can be put to good use.
It’s possible to see that we have a few challenges.
1 Increasing Donations by 100 fold. (Quite doable)
2 De-supressing White consciousness.
3 Ensuring financial probity, this doesn’t mean stingy remuneration for the hoped for professional White advocates but it does mean ensuring effective use of money so that we achieve results and so that people
can confidently will their house to the cause.
4 The isssue of open infiltration and subversion of our movement by Jews ‘apparently’ esposuing our cause.
Over 2000 years of History of the various Western cultures there have been continuing attempts to isolate and control jewish ethnic interests usurping our own interests through undue control in banking/finance, political advice, law, professions, the writing of history and the dissemination of our own culture.
Even some of our own White advocacy groups are showing signs of becomming under their sway. (As did Black groups)
Why have we failed. Is it a similar case to that of the parasite malaria that changes host and comes back with a new coating of proteins to recamaflauge itself?
It is clear that the lesson of history is that we can never trust again and must recognise that they will persue their interests in one way or another. Always a Napoleon, Cromwell or Bismarck (despite being despised for his Germanness) will come along and lift the protection and release them upon us and allow them to return from their alterantive host whether it be Holland, Britain, Poland etc.
If we can ensure that we never turst them again, we can also reach and accomodation based on mutual self interest. However we must recognise that they will ‘use’ us for short term goals. The utter corruption of US foreign policy in the aid of Israel being a case in point.
@Luke:
It’s an interview with Morgan Freeman, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s
See also “I’m not White, I’m Jewish” (everybody sing!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4MxxBoFlkM
@slap:
Given the historical fact that these creatures see themselves as “at war” with the whole of humanity, they rather should sing : I’m not human I’m Jewish.
(If you find this “extreme”, bear in mind that in many places of the Talmud and the Qaballah and in pronouncements of many famous rabbis the idea is expressed that Jews and Gentiles are two totally different species. It’s their own idea.)
I am looking for someone among us who is very well acquainted with the web applications of social media.Unfortunately I don’t .
I keep returning to the idea of opening a private web-based social hub,like Diaspora or Myspace or FaceBook.The difference would be that it would be private and open to our movement only.What TOO has is actually splendid but gathers and attracts those who excel in very articulate cerebrations.Most people are simply not on that level of abstracting ideas,logical argumentations.But they have other ,in fact extremely valuable virtues.I imagine them being very attracted to such social hub for European-Americans.They could see there regular folks with their white grandchildren having a white picnic,or learning of a store that extends particularly warm welcome to European-Americans.They could use their social hub for endless variety of activities and growing connections.What would be especially worthwhile is to shape it into a kind of Parallel America,where everything is already white.Future starting Now,already accessible on a small scale at first- but warm,filled with kindness for our people,mutual advice,help,reassurance.
I cannot get it going because it is far from my expertise.I have learned that some of those applications are Open Source and one can have them for free.Still-someone has to know how to set it up correctly.
So, dear friends if wish to help building something practical- let us know!
Ward Kendall wrote:
March 23, 2012 – 3:00 pm
Really, where’s the fun in raking in free money, then having the contributors actually demanding how you blow it…er…in how you spend it? It’s why Duke went to prison. No innocent man would have pled guilty.
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Most reasonable men when faced with two evils will take the lessor if the game is rigged, regardless of how innocent they are.
I don’t know the details in Dukes case, but going by what he writes and says and how he presents himself in his videos he comes across as sincere. In fact he comes across as a genuine champion of whites.
Taylor IS being political. If he didn’t he would be completely marginalized, even more so than he is. I recently viewed a local “Eyewitness” newsclip where the action reporterette interviewed Taylor, who eloquently presented the case for whiteness in a few brief seconds of allotted time. This was on television!
What was he supposed to do? Start ranting about the Jews? Yep. That would have been the ticket. Think about it a bit, and look at the context. People have to learn how to crawl before they learn to walk. Or run. This is really an underground movement, and at this stage of the game it is only beginning to approach daylight. Look at the history of mass movements. Most are on the left, but can be instructive. Even Mao worked with the KMT early on.
@Henry Baxley:
As the mother of tall, handsome sons, I object to your confusion between your own purely personal dislikes and the common problem we all face. Big brother is, indeed, Jewish.
I don’t know what your obsession with birth order is, but in my family, the youngest is the most academically gifted.
@Tom: You are correct, Brother Tom – the Cesspool gang will criticize ‘jews’, but there is one major caveat that both James Edwards and Keith Alexander will almost always throw in during these criticisms.
The caveat goes something like this: The #1 enemy of White European people is ‘liberalism’ in all of it’s manifestations, and according to Edwards & Alexander, it is an unfortunate fact that almost all jews are liberals, so when the Cesspool gang criticizes jews, they are actually only doing so because they are the inventors and most ardent practitioners of ‘liberalism’. Thus, it’s really a criticism of liberalism more than it’s a criticism of jews as a whole. That is the context that always surrounds the discussion of anti-white jewish influence and behavior within the Political Cesspool world.
In truth, the political leanings of jews – whether it is towards liberalism or towards kosher kwanservatism (neo-conservatism, i.e., Trotskyite Communism) is and has always been consistently anti-White and anti-White Nationalism in its ideology and practice. Neo-cons are every bit as hostile as liberal jews to the idea that Whites, just like every other ethnic group, should have pride in their race and should organize themselves along racial lines to defend their perfectly legitimate ethnic and racially specific interests.
In fact, a brief bit of research into the origins of this insane and White racially suicidal concept of America being a ‘credal nation’ or a ‘propositional nation’ – as opposed to a European founded nation based on blood and soil – will reveal that the jewish neo-cons are who cooked up this nation and race destroying intellectual poison.
Here is what my research turned up:
After Reaganism
Enjoy this sweeping — and still-fresh — classic from John O’Sullivan, first published in the April 21, 1997, issue of National Review.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/223411/after-reaganism/flashback?page=7
January 18, 2008 12:00 A.M.
“But there is a third utopian obstacle to such directness: namely, the neoconservative belief that America is not a country, but an idea — a “credal nation” held together not by ethnic links, cultural sympathies, or shared historical memories, but by conscious subscription to the liberal political ideas outlined in the Declaration of Independence and entrenched in the Constitution. Because being an American is a matter of believing these ideas, the country is thought to be capable of absorbing and assimilating people from different cultures in limitless numbers. America is the first universal nation, in Ben Wattenberg’s phrase, and everyone in the world is a potential American. ”
Ben Wattenberg, obviously a jew – along with his fellow jewish neo-cons – knew that their objective was to flood a once 90% White European nation with millions of non-whites, and that this was going to be very noticeable racial transformation. So, they decided to start writing articles and books and giving lectures that would promote their new definition of what it meant to be an American. To basically begin to brainwash the racial group (Whites) who were being targeted for reduction to minority status into thinking that they had no more legitimate right to claim America as their White European homeland than did some IQ of 60 African refugee from Somali or some IQ of 80 mestizo from Mexico or Central America.
Remember – jews are constantly attempting to seize control of the language and to change the definitions and acceptability of certain words, ideas, and verbal concepts in order to advance their jewish agenda. They then try to use these new definitions to brainwash the non-jews into believing in the new jewish definitions and abandoning the previous understanding that once was the dominant belief.
A White Nationalist radio personality once compared this technique to how a spider will inject it’s victim with venom in order to paralyze it and render it unable to flee or defend itself – while the spider then proceeds to devour its victim.
As an experiment, I encourage the racially awake and jew savvy readers of TOO to approach someone who they know who is White, but who isn’t racially awake or jew wise. Ask them if they were able to stay awake during American history class in college or high school and whether they are aware that America was founded and built by White European people and that 100 percent of our Founding Fathers were White Europeans. Then, ask them if they think that – because America was founded and tamed and built by White Europeans, should Whites not consider themselves to be the heirs and rightful owners of the geography known as North America? Ask them if Whites have a right to resist having their nation stolen from them by invading swarms of non-Europeans, who’s ancestors played zero role in creating this nation.
My guess is that the reaction of most Whites who are not racially awake and jew savvy will be a response that fits precisely into Ben Wattenberg’s neo-conservative definition of America being a credal or propositional nation. These Whites have been brainwashed into accepting their own destruction and race replacement. And, not only that – I’d predict that a sizable percentage of these Whites will express glee over their coming reduction to minority status.
Try this experiment. And, for the benefit of the TOO community – please post your experiences in a future comment on TOO.
The old adage, ‘Perfection is the enemy of the good’, comes to mind when I read those complaining about consorting with jews.
I came to White awareness partly through Amren. But, I rarely read Amren now since I ‘get’ its message re black disfunction. I’ve read plenty how blacks rape, bludgeon and kill Whites all the while living off them.
Now, should Amren expose the central role that jews play in facilitating blacks in their assault on Whites? Maybe if it did the result would be too strong and Amren would lose its stepping stone place for White awareness?
Anyway, can Jared, or his supporters, please explain (for the record) the reasoning behind the ‘don’t mention the (Waiter, there’s an elephant/jew in my soup!) jew’ policy at Amren?
I don’t see myself as a liberal or conservative or moderate. I am a white, Christian European American woman and that’s it. I want the White Race to live. I want the west to live. I want Christendom under the rule of Christians.
We are torn apart by labels. We are identified by labels instead of what we really are.
Being a conservative generally means “pro-white.”
Liberalism is “pro Jewish.”
Either you come under the persuasion of White thinking or Jewish thinking. That, in my opinion, is what’s going on in America and the west. Even the Muslims (who hate Jews) in the west are aiding Jewish power.
@katana:
I can only assume that it is pragmatic. Pick your fights and – limit or disarm your opponents. We must never underestimate the power that the black/Jewish/feminist alliance. Without black voters Jews would not have any power beyond bribery.
Dear protorenaissance,
Speaking of a pro-white Facebook, MySpace, etc., THERE IS a pro-white Facebook – it is called “WHITEBOOK” – here is the link:
http://www.whitearyan.com/join
Hope this helps. :-)
@Henry Baxley
Answer; create a closed economic loop…trade ONLY with whites. Boycott the whole *&^%& world.
You really want to create a bias. Accept money from the whole world. But give it out or hire only Whites, whenever possible. Even a small bias by many people will have a strong effect.
We must never underestimate the power that the black/Jewish/feminist alliance.
They have zero power, save that which is handed over by Whites. White support for the system is the central problem.
I presume most Whites think, even today, that we are still in charge of the government.
Anyway, can Jared, or his supporters, please explain (for the record) the reasoning behind the ‘don’t mention the (Waiter, there’s an elephant/jew in my soup!) jew’ policy at Amren?
Jews and American Renaissance AMREN April 14, 2006 All you want, and more:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060426130852/http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/04/jews_and_americ.php
Bill Clinton spoke gleefully about our approaching minority status back in 1995 I believe. The social engineers have been at it for a long time, so we’re behind the curve. Why so much criticism of the guys like Taylor, Duke, etc.?
Taylor is very savvy. He’s like a walking encyclopedia, and he’s quite effective. His youtube segments with Phil Donahue are classics because he makes Donahue look so stooooopid. And stop bashing David Duke! The man is brilliant, powerful, and sincere. Furthermore, any person who views a Duke video has to admit that the man speaks the truth, uses verifiable facts, and has never espoused violence. The “white supremacist” label is a joke; he’s never said that whites are better, simply that whites deserve to exist. It’s sad and crazy that we have to plead our case just to exist, and the claims of white genocide are not exaggerated.
@Alice Teller:
The fact that I have studied Birth order/family constellation for many years mean I am “obsessed”???
What if I said you are “obsessed” with jews?
FYI, If your sons were raised in a dysfunctional home the chances are good that the first born is a Big Brother type. My guess would be that he is, and he Thinks your a “racist” etc. But he makes a lot of money right?
@Balthasar:
Yes, Create a bias. I should have phrased it differently.
@TabuLa Raza:
The Jews and “Big Brother” gentiles may be in “charge” of the government, but nobody is in CONTROL. The false Gods of equality, diversity, democracy and faux freedom have swept whole societies/nations before it. But, like other false Gods, they will eventually succumb to the iron laws of Nature.
What protorenaissance, Ward Kendall, mari @5:32pm, Scott Mulle@7:20pm, Henry and Luke said.
@Alice Teller:
Big Brother syndrome is an attitude more than a person. This attitude is manifested typically in the first born son raised without a strong father influence who takes on the role of father symbolically, and in rare cases, literally. He sees himself as responsible for and in ownership of, the world. He is narcissistic, shallow, and greedy, but is more than willing to allocate the resources of the rest of the family to (his) larger family as he sees fit. Thus he will take toys from little brother to give to baby brother. Its his idea of “justice”
When this person mates, he will invariably pass on this sick attitude in an exagerated form to the next generation (Birth Order Degeneration) though his son will probably be raised by the single mom, the child will have had enough exposure to the dad to be permanently enfluenced.
Also, if you care to check, you will find a great preponderance of our enemies and the enemies of humanity are First born (men or women)
@Henry Baxley:
I cannot, in honestly, fault someone who claims I am obsessed with Jews. The vast majority of literate people who read about Big Brother in this context will assume one is alluding to Orwell.
I can certainly agree that there are a multitude of ill effects that are the result of dysfunctional single parenting. Birth order degeneration suggest that younger children are less gifted than elder ones – that is just silly. There do seem to be some generalizations that can be linked to birth order, degeneration (of what) is not among them in my experience.
My sons would not dream of insulting me, by calling me a racist, or in any other way, my husband would not tolerate such behavior.
What is your problem with tall and handsome? Lots of our folks fit that description?
A SIGN OF THE TIMES!!!! truly unbelievable….
Why this sudden surge in the demand for firearms? Is the worm at last turning…?
http://offgridsurvival.com/rugerstopsacceptinggunorders/
The reason there’s “no money” in the White movement is pretty simple: any WN seeking personal wealth or calling other WNs to enrich themselves is immediately called a “petit bourgeois” or a “Jew”.
Guillaume Faye, for example, suffered immense verbal abuse from the nationalist camp in France after he embraced capitalism and called Whites to enrich themselves in order to create their own lobby.
This feeds a self-reinforcing circle which attracts survivalist losers, Evolian revolutionaries, Christian traditionalist asceticism-advocates and National-Bolcheviks.
The funniest part in all that is that their idol, Hitler himself (supposed to be a “socialist”) was actually infinitely more pro-capitalism and pro-industrialism than Angela Merkel. He had a lot of businessmen friends (notably factory owners and newspaper magnates), taxes under his regime were lower than under Bismarck, and imports/exports still existed. He conceived the State as a protector of the race, not as a redistributing thing.
The fact that Don Black is obliged to beg money every month to keep Stormfront running is the logical consequence of the WN refusal of money, technology and modern life.
I think Stormfront readers expect everybody to do voluntary work and electricity/bandwidth to be free. Trouble is, things don’t work like that in the real world.
Everybody expects payment, and natural resources are not, by definition, available to anyone walking Earth.
I don’t believe being as poor as the average Negro and refusing technology (which is, beyond morality, what the White race is known for) is a mark of intelligence.
The White Nationalist movement has been hijacked by losers, communists, feminists and religious fanatics long ago, that explains a great deal of where we are now (with the fact the Jews won in 1945, of course).
@Luke:
Keith Alexander is an authentic Southern voice, although I do agree that using “liberal” as a codeword for Jew went out of fashion about 40 years ago. LOL.You probably heard the joke about the college boy who asked George Wallace how pointy headed liberals could get their yalmukas on if they had pointy heads? Keith, may have not heard that one, way back when.
OT: Has there been any discussion here about using Jewish-run or -dominated web sites? Like Facebook, owned by Zuckerberg. Or Jewgle. I’m interested in what people think about this.
@Heather Blue:
The identity you speak of “White Christian American Woman” is the best path to collective unity. Race and Religion trump class in terms of social unifiers as any sociologist with merit will tell you.
I can’t help shaking my head in bemusement over the number of posters railing against any WNist leader taking money from the Jews even if that means they attend or even speak at their meetings. Here we have posters unwilling to even donate anonymously to White activism, because certain WN leaders may be taking Jewish money – clutch the pearls – and dammit, it’s the principle of the thing.
“It’s the principle” is always our battle cry and it’s how Whites end up hoisting themselves on their on petard and destroying each other every time. In reviewing the White genocide at the hands of other Whites, it is amazing how often that battle cry has erupted before the carnage begins. Of course, we somehow always manage to blame it on the Jews (who simply find a way to profit from our stupidity) rather than our stupidity itself.
Most of you are aware that Jews created the NAACP. Black activists had no problem whatsoever taking Jewish money and even accepting their “help” organizing their activism.
Yet Black activists have never EVER deluded themselves that the Jews helping them were their friends. They remain virulently and often even openly “Antisemitic.”
To review, Black activists study and then appropriate Jewish activist organization tactics for themselves, like Barak Obama became an expert on Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals.” They took Jewish money and then they proceeded to marginalize the Jews in their movement.
The NAACP finally purged itself of all real Jewish influence or leadership by the early to mid 90s, and I don’t think it’s any coincidence that Mestizo activism a`la La Raza Cosmica took off. I imagine there is a strong Jewish organizational component there, too, but certain the Black Activism Playbook of using then losing Jewry has only been accelerated thanks to their superior demographical impact on the politicians.
Maybe Whites have a reason to be wary. Maybe there is some weird honorable streak that results in Whites actually selling out if someone bribes them to? A fool and his money SHOULD be parted, so why can’t White activists take a page from Black Activism 101, take the money and spend it promoting their own interests?
How can the activists of lower IQ races like Black and Mestizo see no conflict in taking Jewish money while keeping their focus on their own racial interests rather than allowing them to be hijacked by the Jews?
Jews are waking up to the fact that the colored will take their money and their help, but the Jews aren’t going to accomplish anything more than a race war and when your uniform is the color of your skin, the colored folk they have stirred up aren’t going to GAD that Uncle Seymour marched with MLK during the 60s.
They thought the lower-IQ races would be easier to control, because they never understood that book smarts and street smarts are two difference things. That’s why the Negros and the Mestizos have the Jews’ number. And that’s probably why many of the sharper knives in the Semitic drawer have decided to grace AmRen and the like with their bright, illustrious, Chosenite presence.
Well, I must have a low IQ (which is something I am becoming increasingly convinced is shorthand for IDIOT QUOTIENT)
I see NO problem with Taylor et al allowing a bunch of Jews with deep pockets to show up at their conferences and even get up on the podum to entertain the goys with their own self-serving blather. I see no problem with it at ALL as long as Taylor et al remain focused on pursuing their own interests and agendas.
So before we all get upset about Taylor having Jewish donors, I’d like to point this out. Jews can sell us any self-serving garbage they want, but only WE can fall for the okie-dokie.
@Alice Teller:
“Birth Order Degeneration suggests that younger children are less gifted than the elder…that’s just silly”
Yes it is silly. But that is not Birth Order Degeneration. BOD refers to the cumulative effect of child neglect over generations. A third child can not get more than a 1/3 share of parental resources, whereas the 1st child get 100% of the resources IN THE MOST CRITICAL YEARS, and statistically, does not do as well because of this (socially condoned and enforced) neglect. This effect is beginning to change however, Now it is getting more difficult to predict outcomes because the nuclear family has all but dissappeared (even the 1st child is neglected, imprinted with violence, etc. because a working mother simply can not give the needed attention)
@Clytemnestra:
Very well said indeed. Thanks.
I wanted to add that White activists like James Edwards must not think of any Jew or any other Non-White who may appear to be pro-White as “good.” Any Non-White who helps us is going to have a pragmatic, self-serving agenda behind their help.
Some Non-Whites, like pro-White Mestizos who want to identify as/with White are intellectually honest enough to recognize that they can only live in a First World country if that nation is under White leadership.
Any pro-White Jew is probably so, because after his different experiences with Muslims in Europe, Blacks in the USA and now Mestizos voting out every Jewish politician and replacing him with one of their own when they get any significant majority, he is smart enough to recognize that Whites represent the least of all possible threats to his security and well-being.
Whites confuse alliances with friendships. Mutual self-interest governs alliances, not real affection or trust on either side. So, there is no such thing as a “good” Jew or Non-White being Pro-White; better to think of them as “useful.”
We can accept their money and their help, but we should never completely trust them, always verify everything they say and do, and never let them get the upper hand.
@Alice Teller:
“What is your problem with tall and handsome? lots of folks fit that description”
Yes, but when BIG BROTHER is tall and hansome he is ten times as dangerous than he would be otherwise. He can win elections. and THAT is a big problem….ever notice those that win have the prettiest faces/deepest pockets?….(“Democracy is a beauty contest”…..”Democracy; best government money can buy.”)
Meanwhile the ONLY one with ANY clue as to reality always brings up the rear because he is old and ugly. (Ron Paul)
90404
Probation officer. A well paid, merit civil service job until Richard Nixon and his EEOC decreed that only blacks could be goverment workers.
But 92 percent of the attorneys involved in the anti White side of the affirmative action lawsuits were and still are Jews.
Little known fact. Hitler’s very first move against the Jews March 1933 was to forbid any goverment agency in Germany from using Jewish health providers in the employees health insurance programs.
Second move, March 1933 was to order that Jews not be permitted to take civil service exams and that all goverment agencies including schools of course get rid of their Jewish contractors and suppliers.
Third move, April 1933 was to order all goverment agencies including schools to fire all Jewish employers.
In the 1930′s Hitler called it affirmative action for Aryan Germans. From 1965 to the present times our Jewish dominated goverment calls it affirmative action for disadvantaged non Whites.
Whatever it is called, German Jews in the 1930′s, English Catholics 1535 to 1832, American Whites from 1968 to eternity, it is all the same.
What I have against Jews is that the affirmative action laws were funded by ADL, AJC, ACLU etc and created by 92 percent Jewish attorneys.
So when your child is turned down for college admission and financial aid because he or she is White; wWhen you are paying $1,700 for a 2 bedroom apartment and an illegal mexican is paying $200.00 for the same apartment in the same neighborhood because they are eligible for section 8 and you are not, because you are White, when you are turned down for all goverment and education jobs because you are White; when you do the work of some obese trashy black and have to listen to the black’s abuse all day; when the black who rapes and robs you gets off because the legal system favors black defendants over White victims;
Know who did these things to you because you are a White goy, Jews.
Liberals want us dead. Blacks and mexicans are the cannon fodder, Jews are the forces sending those black and brown enemies against us.
Clytemnestra
LARAZA, MALDEF, MECHA etc and the hispanic race were created by the Ford Foundation cerca 1970. The Ford Foundation decided that blacks would never get to rule the United States unless they had allies.
Apparently the entire Jewish community and half the Democratic party were not enough allies for the blacks to achieve what the Ford Foundation wanted them to achieve.
So the Ford Foundation created the hispanic race and founded, guided and funded LARAZA, MALDEF etc. Ford Foundation stil funds them along with numerous federal and state grants courtesy of the White taxpayer who actually produces something other than poitical agit-prop and advocacy of White genocide.
The creature of Ford Foundation MALDEF filed a lawsuit and around 1972?? the supreme court bowed to its masters and created the hispanic race as yet another aristocratic affirmative action group entitled to jobs for which they are not qualified and are incompetent to preform.
If you are interested you can probably google and get the exact dates.
katana wrote
“Now, should Amren expose the central role that jews play in facilitating blacks in their assault on Whites? ”
I think every historian knows this and most White realists know this as well.
The one and only entity that put black criminals in such power over Whites was founded by CPUSA member Roger Baldwin in the early 1920′s. He was not a Jew, but virtually all the other founders were Jews and CPUSA members and what the soviets called fellow travellers.
Fellow travellers was a term of the cominterm, not the rabid drooling anti communists the Jews so deride.
The ACLU’s main purpose was to overthrow treason and subervision laws so the communist party could flourish.
CPUSA and the Jews looked on blacks, especially black criminals to be their allies in overthrowing the American goverment and making us some sort of colony of Russia.
Upon that realization, the ACLU Jews began their long process of remaking our criminal justice system to be what it has been since 1960, totally pro criminal and anti victim and anti police.
The ACLU was of course helped by the mass migration of Jews who couldn’t get into medical school and had no stomach for stock market fraud into law school.
By 1930 or so there was a critical mass of pro black criminal Jew law professors and attorneys. They wrote thousands of articles for the legal and judicial journals and filed lawsuit after lawsuit. They are still doing so. Dershowitz and Lawrence Tribe of Harvard are prime examples but since 1930 there have probably been at least a million of these anti White pro black Jew attorneys.
As you probably know, American law is based not on laws passed by legislature but by judicial precedent.
Precedent is a cumulative process. Say you want to achieve and new law, law A. Get just one judicial ruling in favor of the proposed law A. File more lawsuits and sooner or later you will get another favorable ruling. Keep going. There might be 12 unsuccessful lawsuits, but if there is a favorable precedent in the 13th, more rulings will follow. In about 15 years with lots of Jew funding (Annenberg, Peter Lewis, Pritzker AJC) and of course the Ford Foundation the judges will create law A through precedent.
That is how affirmative action went in 1965 from “no discrimination against qualified blacks to what we have today:
affirmative action for anyone and everyone in the world who is not White European no matter how unqualified and incompetent they are.
From about 1920 on, Jews and their allies in the soviet union planned that blacks would reign supreme over Whites. At first it was to facilitate the soviet conquest of America. When that didn;t work out after 1945 jewish conquest with black front organizations became the goal.
Blacks are an aristocratic minority, not different from the nobility of medieval Europe. After all , they are entitled to jobs and goverment contracts no matter how incompetent. Whites are basically banned from goverment and goverment contracts.
Blacks can and do rape, rob and murder Whites as much as they want and get away with it, much as the Russian troops raped and murdered Ukranians and Eastern Europeans.
I don’t know what we can do given the forces against us.
Alliance with Russia would be dangerous. Russia is still run by Jews. Putin may be trying, but no Russian goverment has ever succeeded in controling its Jews.
Alliance with China might be the best bet. But we would be a subordinate race. At least we would not be subordinate to blacks and hispanics with IQs in the 80′s as we are now.
I would honestly have to say that, under the circumstances, James Edwards gave a very good speech, and is to be congratulated for it. Both he, and the Cesspool, are an inspiration to us all. However, upon initially reading about the AmRen conference, and some of the speakers there, I too was appalled that Weissberg was featured, and allowed to peddle his kosher dissimulation. I would have much preferred to have seen David Duke invited there to modestly enlighten the ‘kindergarten’ meeting about mind-altering parasitism. Be that as it may, and Taylor is doing a lot of good work within his sector of the big tent, we don’t need to slash & burn our own people, including Taylor, unnecessarily, IMHO.
Save our heavy criticism for our real enemies. That being said, I would have to say that ‘Luke’ (and several others) had some of the most incisive and well reasoned comments that have been made on this thread so far.
@mari:
Pardon me, I’m sure you are a very intelligent person with a lot of good insights. But when you say things like “the ford foundation created the hispanic race” you sound crazy. Just sayin. I’m sure that’s not what you meant but there are many here who don’t or can’t read between the lines just yet. JMO
Kevin MacDonald said:
Taylor’s “eloquence” has never been in doubt, however, it’s his tendency to be selective in his racism, always targeting color and IQ, but never Jews, despite the Jewish policy of using immigration to attack white people, that invites suspicion and criticism.
Here’s another quote from Kevin MacDonald which confirms the Jewish policy of “war” by immigration:
Given his obvious philosemitism, one wonders if Jared Taylor will ever decide that the “different strategies” will allow Dr MacDonald to get up at conference and share his findings on the Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965.
@Henry:
What is it that you suspect he is trying to do?
Following the bustup between David Duke and the Jew, Michael Hart, Jarred Taylor issued the following statement:
Jews and American Renaissance
“I started American Renaissance 17 years ago in order to awaken whites to the crisis they face and to encourage them to unite in defending their legitimate interests as a race. To these ends, AR has deliberately avoided taking positions on questions about which racially-conscious whites are likely to disagree. Some of these have been foreign policy, abortion, the role of homosexuals in a white consciousness movement, and whether Christianity helps or hinders our efforts. By taking no position, AR has served readers who may be sharply opposed on these questions but who agree on the central importance of race, and are committed to our survival.
AR has likewise taken no explicit position on Jewish matters. Readers have always included both Jews and people who believe Jews play no useful role in a movement that promotes white interests. It has been my intent to emphasize questions crucial to our interests and on which we agree.
To put it more accurately, AR has taken an implicit position on Jews by publishing Jewish authors and inviting Jewish speakers to AR conferences. It should be clear to anyone that Jews have, from the outset, been welcome and equal participants in our efforts. There has always been a minority in the AR constituency that has criticized me and AR for welcoming Jews, and there has been another minority that has criticized me and AR for not denouncing the first minority. These groups have generally treated each other with polite reserve, and expressed their bitterness only among themselves or to me—as was proper.
There are other divisions within AR. There are Christians and atheists, Democrats and Republicans, evolutionists and creationists, and advocates of different foreign policies. There has been tension within AR on these questions, but always good manners.
That changed at the most recent American Renaissance conference. At least one participant told a Jewish conferee that Jews were not welcome. One participant well known for strong views rose to denounce Jews as the historic enemy of the European people. Another called him “a f***ing Nazi,” and stormed out of the conference hall.
There will be no more disgraceful behavior of this kind if people who attend AR conferences bear in mind that Jews have a valuable role in the work of American Renaissance, and are welcome participants and speakers. Anyone who thinks otherwise has the choice of staying home or keeping his views to himself.
AR does not, on the other hand, have litmus tests for subscribers or conference participants. There will always be disagreement and debate in our ranks on many issues, including the role Jews may or may not have played in creating the crisis we face. Some people in the AR community believe Jewish influence was decisive in destroying the traditional American consensus on race. Others disagree.
Gentile whites—without help from anyone else—have repeatedly shown themselves capable of egalitarian excess. The French Revolution, the Clapham abolitionists, John Brown and his backers, the miscegenist enthusiasms of the Grimke sisters and other radical integrationists are all products of purely gentile delusion. Even if it were possible to prove that Jewish influence derailed what used to be a healthy American racial consciousness, that is a historical question not directly relevant to what we must accomplish now.
Today, even groups that openly resist Jewish influence are deeply liberal-egalitarian. In 2005, the Presbyterian Church angered many Jewish groups by voting to divest itself of stock in companies it considered to be supporting injustice against Palestinians. In 2006, the Church of England voted to do the same. These churches are prepared to ignore the wishes of many Jewish organizations, yet their members are as relentlessly suicidal on race as any group in either country. Whatever its origins may have been—and they are hardly exclusively Jewish—white ethnomasochism has a life and momentum of its own.
The role of Jews in a society, the morality of abortion, the influence of Christianity, the appropriate foreign policy, and the place of homosexuals should all be discussed openly in a free society, all in their appropriate places. AR is not that place. We cannot afford dissension that distracts us from our goal.
We have vital work to do. Our civilization, our way of life, even our continuity as a distinct people depend on whether we succeed or fail. It is a distraction from our proper work to hunt for culprits, to blame others for our own loss of will.
We may still be a small minority, but we have history, human nature, and morality on our side. Success for us lies in demonstrating that our views are right, healthy and moral—and that liberal-egalitarianism is wrong and immoral; not in trying to “unmask” it as a Jewish conspiracy.
Postscript
In light of the events described above, it was clear to me that a statement of some kind was necessary. Apparently, others thought so, too. In March I received a letter from several people associated with American Renaissance, insisting not only on a statement but on changes in editorial policy and in the organization of AR conferences.
AR has always welcomed advice, but condescending, shape-up-or-else letters are more likely to have the opposite effect of whatever may have been intended. The tone of the letter was one that would suggest that what appears above was drafted under pressure—so much so that some, in my place, would have written nothing at all.
One should not, however, let the mistakes of others deflect one from decisions already taken, and I believe AR’s position is now clear”.
End
(Posted by Jared Taylor on April 14, 2006)
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No,plainly, I don’t accept this explanation given by Jared Taylor for his paradoxical policy of including Jews in his AmRen.
Some voices here suggest that it is a different “strategy”, others that we will use them and drop them as soon as they stop being useful [good luck with that!].Someone even said- let not perfection be the enemy of the good.[meaning: let not marital faithfulness be an enemy of little secretary-boffing] Altogether those voices in defense of “AmRen With Jews” are using arguments of pragmatic considerations.
You want to clean up your town of epidemic corruption affecting every facet of social activity around you. Soon you are approached by a handful of mafiosos offering to help.You sit down with them and they say-We are feeling your pain,boss but one thing, though. No more any of this “corruption” nonsense from now on, O.K.?
In the last death-rattle rally of Tea Party they essentially gathered to celebrate Martin Luther King.I suppose next year AmRen conference will be all about the Holocaust. Different “strategy”,or may be not quite.
@Clytemnestra:
“Jews are waking up to the fact that the colored will take their money and their help, but the Jews aren’t going to accomplish anything more than a race war”
I make a point of reading your insightful comments and this one got me thinking (so, compliments). I don’t, however, think Jews ever wrote blank cheques to minorities, nor do I think they are surprised in the least at the dividends they reap from their investment in divide et impera.
Minority activists took the shekels for the benefits to their constituencies – their gain was our loss. Both givers and takers were clear-eyed, and the cross-hairs were trained on peoples of European descent peoples.
I find it hard to see strategic benefit from any form of relationship with nemesis.
Mari,
Interesting theory you have about the Ford Foundation and how Hispanics were supposed to put Blacks in charge of the Whites. But this Brown-Black alliance never exactly took off. Both sides are engaged in open warfare with each other.
So, it begs the question whether someone at the Ford Foundation either overestimated any solidarity between Negros and Mestizos against Whites OR (and this is more intriguing when you remember that Henry Ford actively opposed Jew domination) someone at Ford was well aware how the racial hierarchy in Mexico and Latin America worked and realized that Mestizos could be used to fight the Negros as surrogates for Whites who were too steeped in Marxist Snivel Rights doctrinaire and in the middle of the White Guilt Trip to effectively fight back!
All I know is that Whites who are friendly and, better yet, speak Spanish, function very well in a majority Mestizo area. While I believe there is a great chance, if these Whites are young and single, that Mestizos hope to intermarry with them (they all want to have light-skinned children with “colored” eyes), Mestizos tend to trust Whites and even somewhat like Whites, but they hate Negros with a purple passion and watch them like hawks.
@Clytemnestra:
It’s the color thing, brown is closer to white than black is.
Also, many mexicans have spanish (castillian) blood and would classify as white. I think.
I don’t know what the AmRen policy regarding comments about Jews is, but they are certainly maligning Christians now.
http://amren.com/news/2012/03/report-on-europe-finds-numerous-anti-christian-actions-crimes/
@protorenaissance: American Renaissance is not an organization; it’s a publication. A publication may use authors of any background. It’s the content that counts.
I still don’t see any explanation of how Jared Taylor is supposed to be damaging the cause.
“Let not perfection be the enemy of the good”? I think you may be flattering yourself here. I don’t think that these people making ideological purist criticisms of Jared Taylor represent perfection in any way. I doubt that they accomplish very much.
There is a place for the purity of the idea and there is a place for engaging people in real life and trying to bring them toward the truth gradually according to how much they are ready to hear. Both are necessary. You people that would eliminate the intermediate stages between White Nationalism and the mainstream are not serious about accomplishing anything.
I even see this as very possibly a deliberate attempt at exacerbating disunity.
@Hadding Scott: Disunity would surely be very bad at the fragile time as we are passing through now. But Do you really want to march shoulder to shoulder with Weissberg,Auster and the rest?
Great comments here. No, browns do NOT like whites. When they are comfortable with you they open up and the hatred against whites spews out. It’s as if they’ve all had the very same teacher….”You stole our land. This land belongs to mehico!” They repeat this drivel ALL THE TIME.
Listen, lay off Taylor. No doubt he is doing the best he can do. Like KM said, it will take all kinds of strategies. You wanna bash Jews? Have your own meeting and don’t invite JT. Easy.
I was struck by the truth of one of the comments here, that whites really ARE the least threat to Jews. Many Christians see Jews as brothers, thinking wrongly that Jews observe the OT. If those same Christians knew what’s in the Talmud they wouldn’t feel so friendly towards the tribe, I’m sure.
@Hadding Scott: @Hadding Scott:
I don’t “suspect” anything. I know what Taylor’s doing and I’ve posted his statement from 2006 so that you might also know.
Perhaps after reading it you’d care to give us your National-Socialist Worldview.
Specifically this:
@protorenaissance: Since American Renaissance is not an organization but a magazine, there is no question of marching shoulder-to-shoulder with anybody.
This discussion brings to mind the decision by the CATO Institute many years ago to reduce the influence of the State from within. Work Beltway to reform and slim Leviathan. The allure of cocktails, stretch limos, invites to the nice parties, and no demeaning funding crises. Guess who “reformed” whom?
Ulysses knew himself and the Sirens well enough to tap his ears. Pass the wax.
@Otis Talbot:
And I would feel better if those white Christians would stop subscribing to a religion-only model of human behavior. It amounts to the same thing the radical left believes in – that only culture and environment matter. Whites of all kinds – religious and nonreligious – must get it through their heads that genes count for something. And these genes influence what we call ethnic traits. You could make those Jews adopt any religion under the sun including Scientology and they would still basically behave in the same way. This is why race matters.
@Tomas de Torquemada:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/02/facebook-money-and-power/
@Jason Speaks: It is so astonishing and true.I observed that a few times up close.Children half Jewish and half white growing within white ethos and still-the famous semitic traits would somehow flourish.It has been pounded to me so forcefully that it is nonsense and only individual traits exist that it took me a long while to find enough factual ammunition to convince anyone that it is true.
@TabuLa Raza: That was one hell of a lively, free wheeling, wide open, and no holds barred, Judeo-centered debate/donnybrook in ’06! Quite an unforgettable episode, and Jared let it rip wide open, after Auster & Co tried to intimidate him. The Jews must have gone ape-shit over that one.
Hadding Scott
March 24, 2012 – 11:28 pm
“Let not perfection be the enemy of the good”? I think you may be flattering yourself here. I don’t think that these people making ideological purist criticisms of Jared Taylor represent perfection in any way. I doubt that they accomplish very much.
There is a place for the purity of the idea and there is a place for engaging people in real life and trying to bring them toward the truth gradually according to how much they are ready to hear. Both are necessary. You people that would eliminate the intermediate stages between White Nationalism and the mainstream are not serious about accomplishing anything.
I even see this as very possibly a deliberate attempt at exacerbating disunity.
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I think you have misunderstood my comment “Let not perfection be the enemy of the good”.
I’m all for practical solutions, pure or not.
mari
March 24, 2012 – 7:03 pm
I don’t know what we can do given the forces against us. Alliance with Russia would be dangerous. Russia is still run by Jews. Putin may be trying, but no Russian goverment has ever succeeded in controling its Jews.
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I’d be interested in other readers’ opinion on this, re Jews still running Russia.
@Tom: I agree with you, Brother Tom – about Keith Alexander. He’s the sort of fellow Southerner that I would consider it a privilege to have and know as a close friend and confidant. On an increasing number of weeks, I have tended to download only the first hour of the Cesspool program, because it is Keith Alexander’s analysis and commentary that is the biggest drawing factor for me.
@Henry: Excellent refresher on the Jared Taylor position on allowing moles inside our movement. It was this very editorial position that resulted in my canceling my 17 plus year subscription to American Renaissance.
@Clytemnestra: Miscegenation spells the death and extinction of the White European race, who today only comprise about 10 percent of the entire world’s population. Therefore, there absolutely MUST be a zero tolerance of this destructive and suicidal behavior – and anyone who advocates in favor of it should be seen as an enemy.
Isn’t it ironic and considerably bizarre that the entire non-white world, on one hand, cannot resist spewing their hatreds and resentments and open hostility towards White European people -but, at the same time, it seems as if every one of them harbor obsessive desires to race mix with us?
Could these non-whites, deep inside their subconscious, have this desire because they envy Whites for our physical appearance, or could they be harboring the sense that they wish to help destroy our race and render us extinct?
@Luke: Re: non-Whites, it is probably all of the things you mentioned, plus raw envy and malevolence. They are definitely circling for the kill.
Incidentally, M. C. Piper in his book JUDAS GOATS, makes negative mention of Jared Taylor. I, too, dropped my subscription to Amren when they kept censoring my comments, and you couldn’t even use the word ‘Negro’, when discussing Negroes! Any critique of Jewry was, and still is, moderated to oblivion. The publication was, and still is, ‘milquetoast’ to most of us, yet, it is nevertheless valuable in enlightening ‘newbies’ to racial reality and White identity. Though I personally realize the danger of Muslims in our midst, I tend to dislike the decoy, side tracking effect of the anti-Muslim cant that Amren often features. We get enough of that ‘programming’ daily from the controlled MSM. That’s why many of us have mixed emotions about Taylor’s frustrating position on the JQ; yet, overall, he has produced some excellent books and articles, and I still read his site daily. The article by ‘Atilla’, and his tragi-comic experiences in Noo Yawk, entitled ‘Hell On Wheels’, is an all time classic.
@Otis Talbot:
Well stated Otis. Kudos:)
@Jason Speaks:
The problem Jason, is that genes, when reduced to their core, cannot explain their own existence. One cannot predicate a successful world view on empirical phenomenon alone, including the existence of genetic tendencies and eugenic practices in general. Wouldn’t you agree that science needs to operate under an umbrella of explanation most readily offered by metaphysical phenomenon? Unification founded on science is pathetically weak by definition. Even h i 7 l 3 r was a follower of astronomy and the occult rather than a die hard genetic Eugenicist, thus proving the dominance of religion over science. The Elite are followers of the occult, not science. I don’t praise the combustion engine when I get into my car, I praise my fellow European brothers and sisters who designed her at Audi! Same with the mechanics belonging to the human phenomenon. I don’t praise the science behind our operation, I praise our creator!!
@Luke:
Brother Luke, I couldn’t help but notice how your resignation excited repeat comments from the resident nut, White, Jewish, and Proud, all of which merely served to confirm how right you were in your judgment.
This character, White, Jewish, and Proud, also gave the (then) standard Judeo-AmRen opinion re: Duke and MacDonald which was/is:
I think the question of Taylor’s “pragmatism” being right or wrong can be answered by a glance at the stats.
The 2006 AmRen that led to the statement in support of Jews was attended by more than 300 people; but this year (2012), the attendance figure has been estimated variously as between 90 and 150.
This is hardly a sign that the use of “different strategies” has been more successful than the old unsophisticated but feared method of giving the facts and naming the perp.
People aren’t mushrooms and they’ll never rise up if kept in the dark.
@Junghans: If I am not mistaken, I believe I have heard or read somewhere that Jared Taylor has banned David Duke from attending American Renaissance Conferences, after he dared to rise from the audience and pose the very insightful question to one of their speakers about whether there was an enemy already inside our gates who was far more dangerous and destructive to the White West than are the Muslims in the Middle East.
@Henry: Well, now that is an interesting piece of information – the decline in the attendance figures for Taylor’s jewish love fest conferences. Thanks for sharing this information, Brother Henry.
As for AmRen’s website – since they changed their format and now seem to no long allow anonymous, no-forced-login requirements before posting a comment, I decided to no longer post any comments on their website.
Remember: Any website that tries to force or encourage you to get a facebook account or to otherwise sign up and give up your personal identifying information – is almost certainly going to use that information in ways which will allow ZOG and the Cultural Marxist, anti-Free Speech Police to locate you, locate your employer and exert pressure on them to fire you for violating the Political Correctness doctrines of the Frankfurt School. This is how the ADL has decided to try to engineer an end-run around the repeated Supreme Court rulings which have confirmed the sanctity of the First Amendment, even for unpopular speech – which was the original intent of our Founding Fathers when they insisted on that amendment.
Facebook, twitter and all of these social networking websites are our mortal enemies, people. Shun them and pass the word to your family and friends to do likewise. Just recently, I’ve seen a story where employers are now starting to demand access to prospective job applicant’s facebook accounts – so they can do a ‘data base search’ on people, to see if anyone might have posted something on the web that is not Politically Correct.
It must be noted that a number of popular pro-White websites are guilty of promoting usage of facebook.
Council of Conservative Citizens, Voice of Reason Broadcast Network, American Renaissance are three that come immediately to mind – and this promotion of what amounts to a deadly weapon in the hands of our worst enemies, who have repeatedly shown that they will use it to deprive Whites of the ability to have a career and to feed their families – is something that deserves our utmost degree of concern and attention.
@Luke: Political Correctness in hiring,firing and public expression – that is as bad as it was in Soviet Union.How can we live with it,how can we stand it/!! “Home of the Free”? Free to be PeeCee ? The neck of that monster has to be broken before any other task that we have. Let’s put together a text of a Pledge To Always Be Politically Incorrect ! There was some month ago a marvelous posting by someone with a name Lee who said “let’s overwhelm them with our numbers” and he was right.There is simply too many of us and too few of them.
@Otis Talbot:
“No, browns do NOT like whites. When they are comfortable with you they open up and the hatred against whites spews out. It’s as if they’ve all had the very same teacher….”You stole our land. This land belongs to mehico!” They repeat this drivel ALL THE TIME. ”
You are making the mistake of falling for what is nothing more than a “You Owe Us, Whitey” extortion tactic borrowed from the Negros After all the aggrieved victim stance has worked like gangbusters for them.
I submit that if the average American reminded them that Mexico lost the Southwest to the USA just like countries lose territories in wartime all over the world and WTF should make this case any different … Moreover, the USA then bought the territory after the fact, they would slink off.
Their claim is just La Raza Cosmica hyperbole and I can guarantee you that their happy little brown behinds cleared out of the Southwest quickly enough and for several weeks after America was attacked on 911. It doesn’t seem that they are prepared to defend any territorial claims against anyone outside of America, so it is all BS to me.
Mestizos in America may be doing handstands to publicly identify with Indians, because thanks to the fuzzy-headed logic of disingenuous “White” liberals, they see the benefits of being classified as a racial minority. However, the way they openly discriminate against and maltreat Mesoamerican Indians reveals the truth of how little they identify with them.
No. Mestizos actually identify with White Europeans. They are secretly proud of their Spanish conquistador blood and look down on La Malinche’s Indian blood. Their resentment towards White Europeans is that they feel rejected by them, especially the Anglo gringos in America Norte.
The White Mexican elite are all too well aware of this dichotomy, so they avoided a lot of open race warfare with this mixed population, which is their largest, by their “We Are All Mestizo” skin color prism approach.
With this tactic, the lightest-skinned “Mestizos” run Mexico and get the lion’s share of the goodies, but there is the implicit promise, seldom fulfilled, that an ambitious Mestizos can “marry up” the color prism. Of course, these ruling, light-skinned “Mestizo” families are very effective at keeping out any encroachment by jealously guarding their bloodlines through careful spouse selection.
The White-Mestizo population is the largest growing mixed race demographic for this reason. Mestizos are hooking up and having children with every White who will have them with the idea of moving up that skin color prism. Under the old casta system, moving up would be pretty rapid for a Mestizo. Mestizo marries Espanol (White) to produce Castizo offspring. Castizo marries Espanol (White) to produce Espanol (White) offspring.
So basically you have a people who feels that their White lineage has been somewhat robbed by Indian blood and if they can simply acquire more of the White phenotype, they can get it back in only two generations. Why would they not identify more with White people.
The only issue they would have is with the one-drop rule, but they know damned well that there are two many White Comanche princes or White Cherokee princesses, i.e. White Americans who boast of having some Indian blood, but are still accepted as Whites to worry that much about it. So again, why would they not identify more with Whites, any self-serving La Raza Cosmica blather aside?
@Luke:
“Isn’t it ironic and considerably bizarre that the entire non-white world, on one hand, cannot resist spewing their hatreds and resentments and open hostility towards White European people -but, at the same time, it seems as if every one of them harbor obsessive desires to race mix with us?”
“Could these non-whites, deep inside their subconscious, have this desire because they envy Whites for our physical appearance, or could they be harboring the sense that they wish to help destroy our race and render us extinct?”
Luke, many of these non-Whites, especially if they are, in some part White, believe that by further mixing with pure Whites, they can acquire enough of the White phenotype to bleach out the bloodline and become White, so to speak.
That attitude is prevalent among the Mestizos of Latin America who have a casta system that clearly lays it out: Espanol (White) plus Indios = Mestizo, Espanol plus Mestizo = Castizo and finally, Espanol plus Castizo = Espanol. So in the space of two or three generations, the bloodline is considered thoroughly a White European phenotype even if there are traces of Indios.
With various non-White invasions of Europe, there is a school of thought that there is no such thing as pure Whie, but that there is a strong European phenotype, so you can see where a Mestizo culture would prefer to ascribe to acquiring more phenotype than worry about racial purity.
That, BTW is a tenet of La Raza Cosmica. No pure race, but even many of the La Raza Clowns try to acquire White spouses and have children with them. They call it “mejorando la raza,” or improving the race.
There are some people too far down the color spectrum to see any discernible differences for several generations who realize they are destroying a White bloodline for millennia and revel in the idea.
@Clytemnestra:
The dark races of the world are entirely cognizant of their inferiority, which is why they are out to destroy the strong and the beautiful (i.e. the European race). The Jews have this same exact hatred, in spite of their financial and social success. Mentally speaking, the Jews are the same slave moralists and resentful sheep herders they were under Roman occupation.
An ‘email’ from Robert Weisberg to the Jewish Defense Organization (JDO) on the matter of AmRen and “strategy”.
If this is genuine then there can be no doubt about the purpose of Jews at AmRen. Indeed, it raises important questions about Jared Taylor that (if genuine) cannot be ignored.
Dear Henry and Luke,
Re: AmRen conference attendance.
I attended AmRen conferences in both 2006 and 2008. In the 2006 conference, yes, well over 300 attended (maybe 325 to 350). In 2008, about 270 were there. In 2010, it was cancelled 5 times as they signed contracts with 5 different hotels – every time they signed a contract, leftists will find the location and make threats. Hence after each cancellation, Am Ren will sign another contract at another hotel.
In 2011, Am Ren secured a location in Charlotte, North Carolina, then a black city official forced cancellation.
After 2 back-to-back cancellations, prospective AmRen attendees are understandably wary of attending another conference. That’s why the attendance is rather low this year. Also poor economy is another reason for lower attendance.
David Duke and James Edwards hosted a Euro conference in Memphis in 2008 – just after the election of Obama. Leftists forced the cancellation of the original location, but another location was secured at the last min. I was there. 150 were in attendance (out of the original 300).
@Henry:
As could be expected this Jew is only interested in “what is good for the Jews”, as appears from the following quotes from his E-mail :
(shanda, Yiddish for “shame”)
Finally :
Like infiltrating them? And who is “the enemy” anyway, all Whites?
@PC:
Thanks PC.
That’s still around a 20% drop following the 2006 event, and the disruptions to the last two events, even if they were the sole cause of the ongoing decline, would still serve to demonstrate that proscribing the Jewish question has been an abject failure, as there’s been no respite from Jewish hostilities, regardless of the goodwill on offer..
Perhaps AmRen’s reward will be gained in Heaven!
@Henry:
The JDO calls them “a handful of Jewish traitors.”
What is the date of that letter? I saw it on the JDO’s site and there’s no date there either. It says that Jared Taylor was trying to get rid of the Stormfront crowd but I don’t believe it.
David Duke criticized some Jewish speakers at an AmRen conference in 1994, but was still described (by Bob Whitaker) as Taylor’s “good friend” in 2011.
C’mon….this blather about Taylor is meaningless. He’s a brilliant man, his books are GREAT, and he’s doing what he thinks is best. If you can do better, go and do it!
Granted, sometimes I envy the warrior spirit of Islam, and the fact that the Jewish contingent FEARS them, to the point that we have witnessed cartoons and television programs deleted for fear of Muslim reprisal. The Jews have no FEAR of us, because we are Christians and turn the other cheek, and Jesus after all was a Jew. They have been shitting on us for half a century, have unleashed hordes of third worlders on us, and still we do nothing but talk.
By the way, I work with Latinos, and no they do NOT identify with whites! What a preposterous claim. They most closely identify with blacks, copy black attitudes, wear black apparel, and listen to black music. I’ve heard this more than once, “Can’t be white so we side with black.” Clearly, this is what the Jewish contigent capitalizes on, and the left is populated by Jews, blacks, browns, and self hating whites. If browns were siding with whites, as you say, they’d be voting Republican. No, they very clearly take the side AGAINST whites on every single issue.
I have to mention, Ramzpaul is a genius and a national treasure!
@Hadding Scott:
It’s not a “letter”. It is supposed to be an email which if true would explain why there is no date in the body of the text.
I think the date might be 2007.
As for the use of the term “good friend”
That’s become a meaningless almost neurotic term bandied about to ridiculous excess.
Tom Sunic is such a slave to this condition that I expect him to insert it into every other sentence when he’s in full broadcasting mode.
Anyway: It was Bob Whitaker who described Duke as Taylor’s “good friend” not Duke himself.
Remember, Nick Griffin (another “good friend”) shat all over Duke live on British television but Duke also refused to fall out with him.
This whole little story about AmRen is perfect metaphor of all dealings with Jews.First- their chutzpah of pretending to be on our side,our naivety of trusting their intentions,then their demand we drop any anti-semitism {meaning -seeing them as our enemies], and in the end-derailing popularity of AmRen as a result.Bravo to the clever aparatchiks operating “by deception we etc” method.
By “our” I don’t mean TOO or myself but subscribers of AmRen with misplaced goodwill.
Someone was advising to reject expectations of “perfection” and of “purity” for the sake of doing something good without hindrance of such high standards as “purity” or “perfection”. While I don’t know of anything that people do that meets perfection I would expect at least clarity of message, clarity of purpose.
@Otis Talbot: One can be brilliant and be wrong.Read the article about Zweisten.
Ramzpaul is the national treasure and he does his brilliance without Weissberg-imagine that?!!!
Here is the exact warning about Our Enemy,by Arthur Tessimond:
..”He uses words that once were strong and fine,
Primal as sun and moon and bread and wine,
True, honourable, honoured, clear and keen,
And leaves them shabby, worn, diminished, mean.
He takes ideas and trains them to engage
In the long little wars big combines wage…
He keeps his logic loose, his feelings flimsy;
Turns eloquence to cant and wit to whimsy;
Trims language till it fits his clients, pattern
And style’s a glossy tart or limping slattern.
He studies our defences, finds the cracks
And where the wall is weak or worn, attacks.
lie finds the fear that’s deep, the wound that’s tender,
And mastered, outmanouevered, we surrender.
We who have tried to choose accept his choice
And tired succumb to his untiring voice.
The dripping tap makes even granite soften
We trust the brand-name we have heard so often
And join the queue of sheep that flock to buy;
We fools who know our folly, you and I.”
@Henry:
That’s a long time ago.
If you are going to say it’s not true then I think you ought to back it up with something, instead of just making a lame generalization about hyperbolic language.
@Hadding Scott:
Who said it wasn’t true?
Pointing out that Whitaker saying something isn’t quite the same as Duke saying something isn’t calling anyone a liar.
Perhaps you think it is?
Or perhaps you’re just spoiling for an argument….now that’s really “lame”.
@fender:
“The dark races of the world are entirely cognizant of their inferiority, which is why they are out to destroy the strong and the beautiful (i.e. the European race). The Jews have this same exact hatred, in spite of their financial and social success. Mentally speaking, the Jews are the same slave moralists and resentful sheep herders they were under Roman occupation.”
Well, envy is a weird, twisted thing that can only achieve any true “equality” by leveling things down to where everyone is miserable. It takes true intelligence to be able to recognize that there is no such thing as true equality and to focus on supporting and encouraging talented, creative people to be as productive as possible.
A rising tide lifts all boats and just because one person does not have what it takes to improve things does not mean that no one else should have a crack at it. The dark races better make up their minds that if the White race loses, they all lose and the whole world looks like the shitholes they are so desperately trying to escape. If the White race wins, they all win, too.
I don’t claim to understand the Jewish way of thinking. I think of them as attention whores. Attention, particularly negative attention, makes them feel like life is worth living. I also think they have a strong, irresistible death wish, because of the way they bend over backwards to antagonize the most philosemitic of hosts until they duck out, one step ahead of a lynch mob.
I think Jews hate the fact that they need Whites more than Whites need them. Any country that has found a way to expel them before it is too late, like England and Spain, sees a surge in prosperity like they have never seen before in history. What kind of message does that send Jews as to how necessary they are?
They may want Whites wiped off the face of the earth but then they fear it, too. Where are they going to go? Who are they going to do when there is no White population that they can easily blend in with? Hmmm? Especially now when, thanks to the internet, people can access information about them and their antics in a cllck of the button?
The only winning mindset for White nationalists is to never compromise. Any White nationalist, for example, who is too afraid to say that Europe (and even America) would have benefitted from a National Socialist victory in WW2 is completely worthless.
@protorenaissance:
Thanks for the introduction to Arthur Tessimond.
Let me express my hopes for the future. The Jewish contingent KNOWS that the white brain trust (I’m talking about us!) is highly pissed off. The bailouts exposed just how much control they have, and many people have been awakened as a result. They are losing control over the mass media, and they are trying to gain control of the net and pass more hate crimes bills and limit free speech. In other words; they are worried as hell. I don’t think they want a war with us. They know if they keep pushing they will eventually deserve whatever shit-storm comes their way. They need to back off on immigration, first of all. The massive and insane third world immigration is the biggest issue. It’s insulting that they make shows like “Good Christian Bitches” and they would never DARE to make a show called “Good Islamic Bitches.” The studios would be blown to bits.
My point is that they don’t take us seriously. We’re not seen as a threat. They can eviscerate a Mel Gibson overnight.
I believe that our numbers (by that I mean people who have figured out what is going on) are increasing, and as whites become more and more vocal (as the Jews and blacks and browns have ALWAYS been) then we will finally be recognized. This is my hope. I fear that if we are not given the respect and consideration we deserve, there will be hell to pay. BO likes to make fun of the rednecks who “cling to their guns,” but push come to shove I don’t think the elites want a race war.
@Alice Teller: Glad you enjoyed this fragment of his splendid poem .His poetry was pushed to oblivion by enemies of classical poetry,disciplined versification and sense-making.Well- we just can’t have that! What would that lead to/ Poetry would be dangerous again.
@Henry:
I think you must have a really excellent knife-sharpener to split hairs like that. If there’s no reason to doubt Whitaker’s statement then there’s no reason to emphasize, as you did, that it was Whitaker and not Duke who said it.
@Clytemnestra: Are you suggesting that White Europeans should embrace some kind of status as the ‘breeding stock’ for the non-white races of the world who seek to upgrade their gene pool?
The White race’s DNA is its most prized possession and we should not be obligated to share it with any other race.
@Otis Talbot: I do think the elites, at least the jewish elites – DO want a race war.
I think that is the primary reason and motivation behind the endless, and increasingly transparent, efforts by Hollywood and the mainstream media to church out movies which have virulently anti-White themes and which are designed to deliberately inflame the hatreds, the anger and lust to do violence against Whites within the minority communities.
Take the Trayvon Martin incident as one recent example. Eye witnesses have testified that Martin had the Hispanic fellow Zimmerman down on the ground and was pounding the dickens out of him – and Zimmerman had grass stains on his back to prove it, plus a broken nose and abrasions on the back of his head. But, the media continues to spin this incident as a case of Zimmerman – who they have tried to portray as being ‘White’, as having ruthlessly shot Martin who was only minding his own business and who was completely innocent. And, guess what? These repeated lies have served their purpose – the black community is enraged and screaming for Zimmerman’s head on a stake.
Martin was evidently on a school suspension as a consequence of him being involved in a physical assault on another student – but, the media continues to paint a picture of this thug as being some kind of angel or saint.
This is why the jews always get so hysterical when anyone points out that they control the media. They know exactly what they are doing with their media control – and they know that they are pushing anti-White poison and deliberately trying to incite minorities against the White majority. And, they are afraid of being identified as jews and called on the carpet to explain their anti-white racism.
@fender: I concur with Brother Fender. America should have allied itself with Germany, and not the USSR.
Luke,
Maybe you’re right, it does seems as if they foment dissension amongst the races. I was trying to point out that they really have no idea what will happen when the sleeping giant of the white majority fully wakes up and realizes who has caused the ethnic strife. DD often talks about strength in numbers. After all, they are only 2% of the population. Up to now rednecks have not been targeting synagogues, but who knows what might happen in the future. As the middle class is decimated, and the gap between the rich and poor grows more and more, even the least educated can see that some mysterious force has engineered these problems.
Small note. The movement should not have anything to do with a “whites are better” philosophy, because that sort of thing seems stupid, egocentric, and childish. The movement should focus simply on the fact that we white European-Americans deserve to have a voice and we have the numbers to be recognized. As it is, we don’t exist except when we are being attacked. And of course we are vilified when we organize into groups of any kind. This nonsense has got to stop.
@Gerald Fisk-Dodd: I fully agree on this point. Whites need to make it perfectly clear in all of our arguments and discussions that we are NOT pushing any sort of supremacy – and that we have ZERO desire to oppress or rule over, or subjugate any other race to our dictatorial rule.
Our objective is total geographic separation and the creation of an exclusively White ethnostate, inside which – Whites will pick up our own garbage, pick our own vegetables and fruit, and do all of the so-called ‘dirty jobs’ that these liberal, self-hating, anti-white, hypocritical White racists and elitist country club, RINO Republicrats think should be done by the non-white races they import into the current decomposing dung heap that used to be a 90% White European dominant America.
The objective is to achieve and secure the survival of the White race and to secure a future for White children – free from any possibility of being subjugated to rule by alien races with whom we share no history, no culture, no genetics and no values. Self determination is Goal #1 and do not allow anyone to call us a ‘racist’ for seeking to achieve that objective.
@Otis Talbot: I don’t like pessimism in our movement, but there are many days when I find myself suffering from intensely pessimistic emotions.
These moods usually sweep over me most often after having a conversation about race with one of these bible thumping, Cultural Marxist brainwashed, de-racinated White ‘Christians’. These people truly do have a death wish and are determined ‘suicidists’, to borrow a phrase from Sam Dickson. The stench of death literally oozes out of every pore in their bodies, and I cannot get away from these idiots fast enough.
I mean, licking the feet of the very enemy who viscerally hates your racial guts and who is working overtime to exterminate your race from the face of the Earth – there can be no better example of advanced mental insanity than that.
Great Man, hope to hear more from him!
The ones who have been brainwashed and follow the cultural marxist/PC mindset are generally LIBERALS. I don’t find that conservatives and Christians have this fault at all, and in fact, for the most part they see through this crap and object to it strenuously. But sadly, Wall St. owns the leaders on both sides…
Amren has meanwhile gone quite “kosher-nationalistic”. You are told over and over about Islam in Europe, black criminality, Mexicans, etc… At the same time, the website full of zionist Jews and other non-whites some of whom openly express their envy and hatred (maybe not directly but certainly somehow) against “goyim”, but criticizing Israel and Jews are absolute tabus. Although I’ve been reading Amren for quite a while, I’ve never noticed any headline or opinion about the “chosen”. Furthermore, many speakers and supporters openly express their praise for the “model minority” and their “success”.
I’m Turkish and probably not an usual visitor of this website but even I was attacked and blamed for trying to be “white” (I have no such an intention, but I am certainly not pro-Jewish) only because of siding with whites by opposing yellow immigration.
I don’t know whether my opinion is relevant or not, but I wanted to inform people on Amren and their stand.
@candida: Thank you for your insight. When you mention “this website” you are referring to Amren, aren’t you?
@Trechant
Yes. I am also quite new on TOO. Seems to be free of inner-party supremacists (yet).
Best.
@candida:
Welcome. I enjoy hearing from people of other ethnicities as long as they are up front about who they are. Are you living in Turkey or are you a Turkish-American? I’m curious if Turks discuss Jewish influence among themselves. And if they do is it strictly from the standpoint of opposing Zionist Israel or is there a broader critique of Jewish behavior? Just curious.
@Jason Speaks:
I was born in Turkey and but have been living in Europe for six years. I studied in Germany and worked in Hungary (can speak both German and Hungarian). Currently, I’m in process of moving to Belgium, again due to business reasons.
Most of the Turks are not familiar with the strong Jewish influence on Turkey. They would most likely to be anti-Zionist and oppose Israel, particularly after the attack on Mavi Marmara ship while they are ignorant of the fact that our foreign trade is skyrocketing at the same time, especially in military. The missile shield being stationed in Malatya (Eastern Turkey) is of course for the protection of the chosen people and bullying of Syria is nothing but for Israel. Surely, they would be very happy to get rid of Syria (whose territory is partially occupied by Israel) and reduce the Iranian influence even further. And Turks can be used as foot soldiers this time as American servicemen fought solely for Israel in Iraq.
Turks who have no access to alternative media and can’t speak foreign languages know nothing about the real situation. If I give you another funny example, our very prime minister Erdogan who relies on fake antisemitism and pro-moderate Islam stand is in fact a Crypto-Jew originating from Georgia (yes, I’m not joking, he admitted it during his Georgia trip in 2004) and the author who published this with other sources in his book is in prison since 2007, sounds familiar to you? ;)
A very tiny portion of intellectuals do discuss their influence (some already ended up in prison), but it is almost completely Greek to an average guy. As usual in the west, leftist and liberal media in Turkey is full of the inner party members and their concealed converts, non-Turks anyway.
The founder and first president of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (who is incorrectly blamed for Jew by radical Islamists) put a lid both on radical Islam and non-Muslim influence (by wealth tax, population transfer with Greece, etc..) and managed to form a -maybe imperfectly-, but westernized, national state. After his death, many cryptos climbed to top positions within the state (prime ministers, foreign secretaries), media, industry, etc, as usual.
It’s quite a comprehensive subject and I do not want to digress too much from the original topic, but feel free to ask if you have further questions.
Deniz
Despite our obvious differences in race, I would hope that non-Whites around the world who visit TOO and who enjoy reading the comments posted here – are able to realize that the White race is not really their enemy, and that all White Nationalists really want is to secure our ability to self-determination, to remain in complete control of and over our piece of territory and to ensure a future for White children.
We believe in Nationalism for all races, and that includes a mutual respect that flows in both directions between Whites and all other races. We, unlike the jewish neocons who’ve hijacked our nations – would not threaten to attack or invade or meddle inside the sovereign nations of any other race of people.
Therefore, on the day a White Nationalist minded government rises on the continent of North America – the rest of the world should celebrate that achievement, along with the White Nationalists.
@Henry:
Good. Then you understand that he just wants to avoid the Jewish issue.
To me that’s lame, but probably a lot of people can be reached with that narrow focus on IQ and crime-statistics of black and brown people that would not be receptive to the whole picture.
@candida:
Thanks for the response, that gives me a better idea of what people there are thinking. And I agree with Luke – I hope people visiting get the sense we are not into “supremacy” or anything else we get accused of. We honestly want all races to thrive. Right now, we are trying to awaken whites to the doom that awaits them and the role Jews played in bringing it about.
@Hadding Scott:
That’s bleeding obvious.
He’s a dying man “who just wants to avoid” the very thing that’s killing him. The question is why?
Cui Bono?
Let’s look at Taylor’s expressly stated position:
This is misrepresenting the position of many who oppose Jewish involvement as they (the opponents) go much further than this and warn that Jews not only play “no useful roll” as Taylor puts it, but will seek to control, neuter, and, if possible, destroy any organisation that purports to serve white interests.
But he cannot “emphasize” the Jewish question, which is clearly “crucial to our interests” because the opposing forces within AmRen do not agree on this issue. Therefore any discussion or explanation of Western decline and pending destruction which might impinge on Jewish interests must center solely on effect but never reveal the cause. Failing this it becomes the truth that dare not speak its name.
Here Taylor acknowledges that Jews have been involved in steering AmRen from the very beginning (“from the outset”). And so just as the radiating lines on a protractor have a common beginning but quickly diverge to points of separation, AmRen and White interests are now poles apart when it comes to telling the truth as to who is flogging the white man to death. and has been for most of the past century.
What good has this policy achieved after 20 plus years? Taylor’s efforts are still vilified and sabotaged at every turn, yet still he is prevented by his commitment to his Jews from telling the truth about who is behind our destruction.
Just who is it inside AmRen that keeps leaking their plans so that meetings are disrupted and cancelled?
Here Taylor plants a whole field of straw-men to render the “division” on the vital Jewish question as merely one of common discourse within AmRen.
He continues:
So David Duke implied something factual that touched the fraught nerves of a Jew who demands that such things be contained within a vacuum and ignored: but whose side did Taylor support once the dust had settled?
It’s clear from this that Taylor considered Michael Hart’s part in the “disgraceful behaviour” to have been a direct result of Jew baiting and that (for Taylor) Hart’s response was entirely understandable in the circumstances. Taylor then uses the incident to warn white activists that “Jews have a valuable role in the work of American Renaissance, and are welcome participants and speakers” and states they must accept these new terms and conditions: “Anyone who thinks otherwise has the choice of staying home or keeping his views to himself”
Whether by design or not, the result of this incident is that the question of “Is it good for the Jews” can safely be answered as “Yes, AmRen is very good for the Jews!”
And it will remain good for the Jews for as long as they are accepted as “welcome and equal participants” in AmRen’s “efforts” as Taylor has put it.
@Jason Speaks:
I think that most of the hatred towards whites is due to inferiority complex of others. I don’t know whether I’m allowed to say this, but fact is, whites (or caucasians) are
physically (strongest men are always Europeans),
aesthetically (beautiful skin, different hair and eye colors, straight/wavy hair, thin noses and lips, many other positive features),
culturally (cradle of world civilization is indisputably Europe/Mesopotamia),
and
technically (almost all inventors are white)
superior to other races.
Especially physically challenged people who get most of the nose jobs in the world are the most vicious haters. I think I don’t need to pronounce the word :)
Just curious: What is your stand on Turks? If you ask my opinion, I would consider them as Caucasian since they are not darker then Southern Europeans (there are also many blonds and redheads here, in my family too) but not white or Europeans due to the very different culture and history. Most of Turks do not consider themselves as white, just Turkish.
Best.
@Henry: I heard that a large segment of Taylors readers and supporters dumped him because of his stance. Is it true Henry?
Yes, Taylor placed AmRen between a rock and a hard place and It floundered on the Jewish Question which ironically is the one taboo he sought to avoid.
Many whites who are Jew-wise and earnest view AmRen with varying degrees of scorn while the MSM and the Jews on the outside depict its contributors (including those who are Jewish) as a dangerous new hybrid: The “knuckle dragging academic” fit only for extermination.
If nothing else, Taylor has at least proved the maxim: You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t
It’s all a great pity because Taylor’s eloquence and brilliance in defining statistical data might have been used to devastating effect.
@Henry:
You don’t seem to understand anything about educating people. You can’t teach anybody a whole subject all at once. Likewise if you try to change somebody’s entire way of looking at the world in one session, you probably won’t succeed. But if you can start with the little bit of understanding that they do have, and build on it, then you have a good chance to make some progress.
Because Jared Taylor does not exclude people like David Duke and Will White Williams, those AmRen conferences are a great place for people that never gave any serious consideration to the Jewish Problem to make the acquaintance of people that will certainly make an effort to fill them in. Neutral ground like that is very useful to have. The fact that there are some Jews present is a small compromise compared to the opportunity that it affords.
@candida:
Turks are a racial hodgepodge. Some Turks as you know are blond and blue-eyed with fine features, and are certainly White at least in appearance — but most are not.
@Henry:
Is it possible that we are mistaking courtesy and civility for selling out? I imagine that Taylor would say the same thing about a polite black who played by the rules and attended the conference. Would Taylor allow someone to demand that the darkie be denounced as an enemy of white folks? I doubt it.
@Hadding Scott:
No. It’s you who doesn’t seem to understand Jared Taylor’s own words.
I’ve posted them twice already but you’ve ignored them. Here they are again reduced to bite size for easy consumption:
So, Hadding, how does this “education” work?
Does a stealth like osmosis develop through which these occult secrets are revealed; or does David Duke slip into the target’s room after dark and slip the unwitting pupil an mp3 of My Awakening and a current brochure of photos for sale at discount?
Whatever the method, after 25 years it’s not really working, cos according to a live interview on VOR there were 90 interested people present to hear Taylor’s opening address at last weeks conference.
That’s NINETY people in case you missed it.
Dr Duke must have been run off his feet!
@Alice Teller:
I’m sure Jared Taylor would extend his customary Virginian politeness to a black attendee. But blacks could not possibly play, as Jews do, a “valuable role in the work of American Renaissance” unless those blacks (if permitted) were fully engaged in attacking their own race on every level and at every turn.
Criticism of Jews is never expected of the Jews within AmRen nor is it permitted of the non-Jews.
It is simply not allowed.
Jared Taylor is nothing if not precise with his words.
Once again:
Henry, you fool, let me ask you a question.
If David Duke were offered free airtime on a TV broadcast network on the condition that he could talk about anything except Jews, should he turn it down?
@Henry:
You are out of your mind if you think that David Duke is even close to being the only Jew-aware person at AR conferences.
@Hadding Scott:
A “fool” eh?
You’re full of BS.
You’ve had ample opportunity to comment on Taylor’s own words but instead, you avoid the issue like a turd on a pavement.
Even Jared Taylor concedes that which you seek to deny.
It seems Harold Covington was right about you after all.
@Hadding Scott:
It’s called sarcasim.
@Henry: Yes I called you a fool, because you persist in accusing Jared Taylor and ignore the explanations. If you take Harold Covington seriously then you are at least a fool.
And my question was ignored.
@Hadding Scott:
Hadding – I don’t know who Covington is, but I increasingly note about you is this:
- Impeccable credentials (has HS site, etc)
- But effective contribution almost always disruptive/negative and undermining of ‘growth’.
A connundrum!
@Mickey Meadows: Hadding – I don’t know who Covington is, but I increasingly note about you is this:
- Impeccable credentials (has HS site, etc)
- But effective contribution almost always disruptive/negative and undermining of ‘growth’.
A connundrum!
No conundrum, Mick. Hadding states his position on Jared Taylor, makes his points in defense of Taylor’s “kindergarten,” entry-level, single issue brand of pro-White activism, and is the voice of reason against the purists.
I unsubscribed from the snail-mailed American Renaissance newsletter some twenty years ago on much the same principle as is stated here by those who can’t reconcile their strict anti-Jew stances with Taylor’s inviting Jews to speak at his AmRen conferences. But that didn’t preclude my attending several conferences in subsequent years to meet old friends and thought criminals, and make new ones. My wife and I were signed up to attend the one in Charlotte last year since it was close by. I was sorry to see that one cancelled due to pressure from Jews, oddly enough, and their Buffalo Soldiers. There are not that many opportunities for our type to gather like that in numbers, in the real world, for fellowship and networking anymore.
Not to be “negative” or to impede growth, but I agree with Hadding that anyone who listens to professional smear artist and political saboteur Harold Covington for advice about anyone or anything is a fool, at best. Hadding takes a stand against this enemy of truth when others won’t, either out of complacency or fear that Covington will start attacking them, too, for pointing out his sorry 40-year history on the fringes of pro-White advocacy. Go here to get a truthful load of Mr. Covington’s rap sheet: http://noncounterproductive.blogspot.com/http://noncounterproductive.blogspot.com/
Read a few pages there at Hadding’s blog, then ask yourself who has been negative and undermining growth? Certainly not Hadding, nor Jared Taylor for that matter. If Jared Taylor is kindergarten, then Hadding is graduate school. That’s all.
Yes I am really “disruptive/negative” because I defend Jared Taylor against interminable cranky attacks. A little bit one-sided there.
@Will Williams
Did Hadding type that for you Will?
I don’t take advice from Covington I said it seems Covington was right about “Hadding”.
And stop pretending that you’re an impartial party here Will cos we can all post links to opinions that put an adverse spin on what you’re trying to put in motion:
In fact you and Hadding are so tight you even do a little business together http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t851193/ from time to time.
Should I post Mickey Meadows a link to your mutual friend the convicted pedophile so he can form a more rounded opinion?
@Hadding Scott:
You’d know all about “crank attacks”. Your blogsite is a most disturbing example of that very genre.
To get your sponsor and sometime business partner Will to direct Mickey Meadows to your twisted blog showed you are man of very modest means.
Tell me “Hadding”; is there a section on that blog for exposing convicted pedophiles in the ‘movement’……I didn’t see one.
Perhaps you hid it behind a picture of Harold’s Big Fat Ass.
@Henry: Did Hadding type that for you Will?
No, Henry. Why do you ask?
I don’t take advice from Covington I said it seems Covington was right about “Hadding”.
Only to a suggestibe fool, Henry.
And stop pretending that you’re an impartial party here Will cos we can all post links to opinions that put an adverse spin on what you’re trying to put in motion:
I pretend nothing, Henry. What is it you think I’m putting “in motion” here? You’re gibbering at me and going way off topic with your talk of fat ass and pedophiles.
In fact you and Hadding are so tight you even do a little business together http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t851193/ from time to time.
So what? Any “business” we have collaborated on has been for the Cause, Henry. Do you do anything for the Cause, Henry, besides whine cryptically about pedophilia and such? Thanks for reminding me of that SF thread. I’m going to bump it and tell the good readers there, and here: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t865568/ about Hadding’s and my latest “business” venture, the sale of a painting, with a percentage of the proceeds going to support Hadding’s good works for our people. I like supporting Hadding, the selfless unpaid volunteer “of modest means” — like there’s something wrong with that?
Should I post Mickey Meadows a link to your mutual friend the convicted pedophile so he can form a more rounded opinion?
Do as you wish, friend. Mick could have easily found his way to the blog I linked to had he followed the Stormfront thread that you linked to just one comment below mine.
I haven’t followed any of your commentary here, Henry, but from what I see in this thread alone, you strike me as being an uncritical nutcase. Sorry. You believe what Harold Covington says over the public court record Hadding posted at that thread about ‘Williams v. Covington’. If you want to take that case up with me, directly, or Covington’s history with pedophiles and his accusing others of pedophilia/pederasty, then we can do that somewhere besides here, OK?
@Henry:
Aha. So you think its fine to squat on this thread and attack Jared Taylor endlessly just because he wants to focus on a limited range of issues, but if somebody debunks Harold Covington’s vicious lies about various people, it’s “disturbing.”
That’s completely warped.
@Luke:
“@Clytemnestra: Are you suggesting that White Europeans should embrace some kind of status as the ‘breeding stock’ for the non-white races of the world who seek to upgrade their gene pool?
The White race’s DNA is its most prized possession and we should not be obligated to share it with any other race. ”
I am not suggesting anything of the sort. What I am trying to do is eradicate a lot of any sense of fear and isolation generated by Mestizos among White racial realists.
I have spent several years in a primarily Mestizo or Latino-Hispanic-Chicano or whatever the hell else they like to call themselves whenever the spirit moves them. Though I am White, I am not a blue-eyed, blonde-haired Scandinavian. I am Roman Catholic and I speak fluent Spanish. IOW, I can pass for a light-skinned Latina. In any case, I speak from my own experiences and observations.
Any appearance of racial identification with Non-Whites like Negros and the Indians, in particular, is put out there by “La Raza Cosmica” for your benefit only. It’s a con by Mestizo activists to extort major political power and minority benefits from the gringos, because they saw it work so well for the Negros.
However, most of the average Latino-Hispanic-Mestizo-Chicano people are very uneasy about this gambit, because it often backfires on them. I witnessed a light-skinned Latina practically take off a White woman’s head for assuming she was a Mexican, because she heard her speaking Spanish. She was quick to tell the woman she was Spanish, because her people came directly from Europe and did not marry out.
I witnessed a Mestiza who had acquired a White spouse and had very light-skinned children have a fit, because her son had started dating a Mestiza who was maybe a tad darker than his mother was. She broke them up in record time and her own family did not appear to oppose her as some self-loathing Latina, either. I wonder if this forum would even be necessary if half the White mothers were as race-conscious as this woman was.
If you take them at La Raza’s word and make the “mistake” of alluding to the Mestizo race in a Mestizo’s hearing, he will be quick to “corrrect” you by informing you that he is not a race, but an ethnicity!
Does that sound like a bunch who wants to sunder all connection with the White race to you? Me neither.
It might amaze you how closely the Mestizos are watching us gringos to determine our attitudes and how they might change.
That is how they have determined their past, present and future strategies.
They seek every similarity between their racial composition and ours. They are aware that there are a number of White people who claim some Indian ancestry. (It is also a source of amazement – but major hope – to them that there are Whites who openly and proudly claim Indian ancestry). So, in their wishful thinking, a lot of Whites are just lighter-skinned Mestizos.
You will notice that the most vocal critics of the La Raza types are Italian-Americans like Tom Tancredo and Joe Arpaio. Well, from an objective POV, Tancredo and Arpaio don’t look dramatically different from the La Raza types. There was a time when WOP was a derisive term used for Italians who were here illegally. WOP is shorthand for without papers.
However, the Italians bent over backwards to acquire citizenship legally. Furthermore, they, like many other European ethnicities, did handstands to assimilate and become good “Anglo” Americans. They acquired proficiency in English, they learned Ango-American customs, etc. Quite simply, because a racially confident Anglo America insisted on it or they simply deported their behinds back to Italy; no fuss, no muss, no bother.
Like the Italians, the Mestizos took their cue from Anglo Americans with startling differences. Prior to the early 70′s, Mestizos were not even counted as Mestizo (as they would have been in Mexico and Latin America – probably one of this country’s main attractions). They were counted as White (and still are when they perpetrate a crime) in the U.S. Since Anglo America has lost its racial confidence in the late 60s and started pandering to the Negros, that’s when the La Raza nonsense started up and some shrewd Mestizo activists lobbied for and acquired a minority status of their own from the Nixon administration (which goes to show you why the Republicans need to go the way of the Whigs).
I assure you that the day Anglo America loses any sense of responsibility or guilt for the dysfunction of Negros or any other parasites out there and they will kick La Raza to the curb so fast and agitating for White status so fast that heads will be spinning.
Of course, after the shameless way many Hispanics have gamed the system in this country, the only thing that is going to happen is that the Whites are going to take its cue from Mexico and change the Hispanic ethnic classification to a Mestizo racial classification and the La Raza smartasses are going to bump their people back down to the peon status they tried so hard to escape from in Mexico.
So again, it is simply a matter of White people opening their eyes to observe and their ears to listen to what is really going on in the world, delete this Marxist programming they’ve been indoctrinated with, purge their lives of any universality anti-White rhetoric from their churches and private associations, recover their racial confidence and insist on their right to compete rather than dumb themselves down to make other races feel better.
The ball is in our court, but then it has always been in our court.
@Otis Talbot:
Otis, I haven’t watched “Good Christian Bitches,” because very little of Talmudvision interests me. But I cannot say that this development surprises me in the least.
I can’t remember the last time a Christmas occurred without some nasty little yenta or the ACLU or some other Jew who feels their only function at that time of the year is to play The Grinch Who Stole Christmas throws a fit over a nativity scene or Christmas caroling, etc. ad nauseum, ad infinitum and has been able to shut it down thanks to the invertebrae that passes for White civic leadership these days.
Had someone just grown a set and just told them if they didn’t like it they could go somewhere that Christmas wasn’t observed that time of year, like India or China or straight to hell, that no one GAD about what Jews thought about Christmas and no one cared that Jews were offended that people didn’t GAD, then this crap wouldn’t be happening.
You insult the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), and you get all of Islam on your behind like stink on feces, threatening you and yours with bodily harm. You come up with filth like Piss Jesus and Elephant Dung Mary and it’s an art exhibit. What does that tell you about how hollow-chested Christianity has become?
JUDEO-Christians are the dhimmis of Organized World Jewry. They support the rogue state of Israel in its slaughter of innocent Palestinian Arab Muslims and Christians in the name of Philosemitism. They import Non-White Third World refugees into White countries.
These sorry sycophants have no right to be offended by Good Christian Bitches. They deserve all the contempt and scorn that the Jews want to heap on them. The old saying about lying down with dogs, waking up with fleas is very apt in this condition and I hope those itchy fleas bite hard and draw blood.
Maybe then, and only then will White European Christians learn about the necessity of purging any and all Non-White elements and Philosemitic impulses from their religion. I’ll try to be optimistic, but even though I look ravishing in blue, I’m not going to hold my breath. To hell with them.
@Henry:
“Criticism of Jews is never expected of the Jews within AmRen nor is it permitted of the non-Jews.
It is simply not allowed.”
I may have a strange way of looking at things, so bear with me.
It strikes me that Taylor is doing a delicate balancing act and rather well, so far. There isn’t a WNist site that doesn’t have to beg for funds from its readership. I don’t see that with Am-Ren, so I assume he avoids the Jewish Question, because he gets financial support from Jews.
At the same time, it doesn’t look like he has ceded all control of Am-Ren to them or they would have been successful in getting David Duke banned, for example.
So, it is safe to assume that Taylor thinks a number of Am-Ren attendees are somewhat familiar with the Jewish Question and even those that aren’t are exposed to David Duke. If they are curious, they can youtube Duke’s videos and get their own answers.
I have no problem with Taylor having Jewish members and/or Jewish speakers. There is a good possibility that some of the sharper knives in the Semitic drawer have looked at the abysmal lack of success they have with keeping Negros and Mestizos and Asians hostile to Whites, but Philosemitic at the same time. Maybe they have learned from experience that it is better to deal with the (White) devil that you know than the one you don’t.
All I know is that the Jews have discovered that the Mestizos have this nasty habit of tossing Jewish liberal politicians out and replacing them with Mestizos once they achieve the necessary demographics and the Negros have started doing the same. Only in White dominated regions do Jewish politicians carry any clout.
I read this interesting article about a Jew doing hard time in prison and he had to look to the Aryan Brotherhood for protection because the Negro and Mestizo prisoners not only saw him as White but an even more privileged White to avenge themselves upon.
In a race war, where your skin is your uniform, the Non-White are not going to care that your Uncle Seymour marched with MLK.
All I know is that if Taylor wants to keep his set up going, he will make damned sure that if he shields the Jews from any criticism from Am-Ren Whites, he will not allow them to impose a culture of critique on Am-Ren and their White membership either.
@Clytemnestra:
I seriously doubt that Taylor gets huge amounts of financial support from Jews. What you are not taking into account is that there are many middle-class White people that can see and understand the kinds of racial problems that Taylor addresses and appreciate that somebody is out there confirming what they already believe and convincing others. Most of these same people have little to no understanding of the Jewish Problem, and would not want to support any “anti-Semitic” endeavor. That, in my opinion, is the reason for Taylor’s “balancing act,” as you call it: it’s not for the Jews but for the “respectable” Whites that would be allergic to anything overtly anti-Jew.
I say this because I’ve been acquainted firsthand with examples of such people. I’ve known a couple of university professors that were enthusiasts for Jared Taylor’s work. They would never have had anything to do with him if he had seemed anti-Jew.
@Clytemnestra: Agree on your mestizo comments. And on Amren, thanks for making me think, again.
Mr. Scott, I do not know Mr. Taylor as well as you do, so if I offended a friend of his by my own speculations about his relationship with his Jewish membership, I do apologize.
In any case, I don’t see Jews per se as being this insurmountable problem to Taylor as others.
Alliances are formed when both parties have common cause and a certain amount of urgency making a partnership expedient. I read the papers. I know that Jews like Chandra Levy have been victimized by illegal Mestizos and I believe that Jews who tend toward the urban live have a greater chance of being assaulted by hoodie-wearing thugs wanting to become Knockout King than I do.
To give them the benefit of a doubt, I think the chances are better than even that Am-Ren’s Jewish membership is just as frustrated by THEIR elite’s response to illegal immigration and Negro crime as Am-Ren’s White membership is frustrated by their disingenuous White liberal elite. Maybe they are sick and tired of seeing their daughters raped and their sons assaulted by The Diversity as well.
I have no problem with Taylor not permitting any type of Jew-baiting at Am-Ren as long as he is equally vigilant about not allowing his Jewish membership to form a “Culture of Critique” about the White membership of Am-Ren, either.
These two groups will always be suspicious of each other and with good reason, but if Mr. Taylor can keep them away from each other’s throats and focused solely on the task at hand, they could make a formidable team.
@Clytemnestra:
It’s not that I am offended. I believe I was just correcting your interpretation. I am not really a personal friend of Taylor’s.
Since Taylor has been a target of criticism from people like the ADL for many years now I think it’s very unlikely that Jews constitute a large part of his support, although AmRen may have a few Jewish subscribers.
Just look at the real world and then you can understand why Taylor does what he does. Most of the White people in the USA that are old-fashioned conservatives in regard to race are also pro-Jew. This is the problem. The support of White “responsible conservatives” is the big thing that Taylor would lose if he allowed himself to be characterized as anti-Jew.
I hate the hypocrisy that Taylor has to commit (e.g. saying that most of the controllers of mass-media are “white”) in order to continue telling only half of the truth, but I also see that half the truth is better than none, and that the bridge between us and the mainstream that is created by people like Jared Taylor and Pat Buchanan is useful.
Hadding Scott said:
Don’t fret, Hadding.
People who stalk others (as you do) are usually the last to realise they have serious problems with their own behaviour. It’s not at all surprising to find you, a self-described “National-Socialist” sitting paradoxically astride this forum like a Golem, frothing at the mouth each time someone points out that the tunes coming from Jared Taylor’s karaoke are always those the Jews like to hear.
Hadding Scott said
Hadding you are totally misleading readers again.
You know that’s not true. Do I have to quote from the Jew Robert Weisberg’s latest speech to conference to disprove your claim?
Tell me when was the last time Jared Taylor allowed David Duke to make a speech.
Has Duke ever spoken as a keynote speaker?
If so give me the date and direct me to a copy of the speech.
@Henry:
I am not discussing with you further. You are a Covingtonista, if not Covington himself. You are repeating the mantra that Covington has been using since I starteddebunking his libels of Pierce, Koehl, Klassen, Metzger, Duke, et al.
the question here is not the JP it is whether it is worthwhile to engage people “from the mainstream” with things that they can undestand and do not totally overwhelm them with complexity and stress. That is the purpose of focusing on one simpler problem such as the ongoing black-white conflict and not getting into the infinitely more complicated jewish problem. to get this project done, he has made some calls that others might not make. but have the critics accomplished something? as Theodore Roosevelt said the credit goes to the man in the arena.
I think that James Edwards is doing something similar, making a radio program that is listenable by ” normal” white people, that will also introduce them to the correct understanding of our group’s identity and needs versus all these other parasites. He will not call them parasites because well sometimes you have to ease people into things.
That is not just salesmanship, if it is done with integrity then it is just education, ie, like running an elementary program instead of univeristy.
moreover, if we build some competency at the more humble level, then maybe we can be more competent and a more challenging level too.
I personally dont want truck with Jews so I stay away from Amrens. But I do credit Jared’s book on crime for helping reorient my thinking more correctly when I was about 20, many moons ago. Jared prepared me for the more complicated issues that I later was educated on by WLP. I sincerely believe that if I had not removed my mental clutter around the easier and simpler race issues I would not have been able to grasp the more complicated issue of the JP.
@Clytemnestra:
In fact AB not only allows Jews but certain Jews have been in leadership positions. Tyler “The Hulk” Bingham. Thomas (Tommy, Terrible Tom) Silverstein are names I have read. I dont have any personal knowledge of that however except that it is a criminal gang not an honorable association. We are in a conversation about legitimate means here and should not go too far astray in consideration of the limitations of this medium.
Apropos of “Hispanic,” it is a linguistic and cultural group, not a racial one. It spans many different varieties of racial mixtures of African, Indian, and European origins, in various hues and colors, from blacks who are abundant in a place like Dominican Republic to white Hispanics either from high castes of Latin America or literal Spaniards themselves. It is not a racial group. The Jews have gone to a lot of trouble to attack them throughout centuries of history in Latin America, by sending the lesser racial castes to try and liquidate them and steal their property. Unfortunately, high caste Hispanics made a deal with Freemasonry and secular republicanism in the days of Simon Bolivar, and in some ways adopted an American-like conception of national origin that was not racial but more one of mere place of birth and aquired culture. That in turn was institutionalized in the PRI’s many decades of blather about “la raza mexicana” which translates nicely into a sort of anti-white strategy a lot of them adopt in America where the lumpen masses infest urban areas and the well educated among them proceed to take on the role of jewish sponsored and lettered “representatives” who speak from the Jewish script at will.
Individuals who are clearly racial-white Hispanics who are well inclined to jump off the antiwhite bandwagon should certainly do so. I welcome them. Jews dont like that.
Jews themselves are a racial hybrid group bound by multiracial ancestry, and also religion, of course.
These are more complicated issues than the simple notion that there are black and white groups and it is legitimate for the white group to prefer and associate with its own kind and take necessary measures to avoid black crime. If people can’t think white group interests vis a vis blacks, they sure arent going to be able to figure it out for Jews.
@Anty Ep:
I think there is are also a dialectical process, leading to an understanding of the Jewish Problem, that starts as soon as somebody gets serious about any other racial problem. Anybody would have to be very stubborn to notice that Jews have the leading role among the enemies of this kind of enlightenment.
Somebody that doesn’t want to see it can say, What about Professor Weissberg? In response to that we can point out that Weissberg is just one Jew, who has friction with other Jews because of his association with AmRen. I don’t think that excluding Weissberg would help anything, although it is certainly important to be aware of the biases of his perspective and to be critical of what he says. I’ve read about what happens at AmRen conferences and it does not seem to be the case that everybody that speaks there is received uncritically. The people attending those conferences are not children that have to be sheltered.
@Hadding Scott: I meant to say that anybody would have to be very stubborn NOT to notice that Jews are among the leading enemies of AmRen.
. . .some mysterious force has engineered these problems. . .
Whites and jews are great engineers. Whites build civilizations with steel while jews build ruins with steal.
AMREN is clearly fake opposition- Taylor has all but told us so. (“Jews were welcome. . .from the beginning.”) If he accepts jew funding THEN A.R. IS FIRST AND FOREMOST JEWISH, EXISTING TO TO SERVE ANTI-WHITE PURPOSES.
NO ORGANIZATION CAN BE PRO-WHITE AND PRO=JEW AT THE SAME TIME.
The question lingers- why?
It’s all BS people…all BS. All of it – AmRen, James Edwards, Jared Taylor, et al.The Pro-white movement is a business. The whole damn thing is a scam, that’s why you see so many jewish guys lurking in the background at these “pro-white” meetings, they’re all just looking to make a quick buck off impotent ,angry , bigoted white men. They’re involved in this pro-white crap to make a buck, plain and simple. Plus they get the added incentive of making fools out of dumb white goyim who are misguided enough to fall for their scam. Really, you pro-white idiots are right up there with the Christian Zionist zombies in terms of your blind stupidity.
Posted this link on The Political Cesspool blog earlier :
I was Co*ck blocked by the mental midget who moderates that blog. Obviously it’s not only “pro-white” organizations, but also the “pro-white” websites are being run by jew controlled puppets.
Here’s that link: http://uruknet.info/?p=m86881&hd=&size=1&l=e
@race to the bottom: You seem to have won your race to the bottom.
@TabuLa Raza: On the subject of Jews Jared Taylor seems to be simply trying to avoid the issue. I don’t believe that he would have been interviewed on American Dissident Voices if he were “pro-Jew”: he wouldn’t have been asked and if asked he wouldn’t have agreed to it. So, when you say “pro-Jew” you really are making a caricature.