It ain’t over at National Review. The guillotine may get another victim besides John Derbyshire and Robert Weissberg.
Yesterday the metrosexual lefty blogger from Salon, Alex Pareene, outed yet another long-time NR figure, John O’Sullivan, in one of his “Clean out the racists!” posts. He denounced O’Sullivan as the editor of NR when it was strongly against mass non-White immigration back in the 90s, and employed Peter Brimelow to write on the subject. O’Sullivan was also the editor when NR defended The Bell Curve and other research showing racial differences in IQ. (O’Sullivan was eventually demoted to “editor at large” by William Buckley when Buckley decided to open NR to more liberal views.) Pareene also condemned O’Sullivan as a former board member at VDARE.com, which published “extremist white nationalists” like Jared Taylor and Sam Francis, and for the other high crimes and misdemeanors you might expect.
It’s hard to expunge white nationalist racism from respectable conservatism when some of the most respectable of conservatives dabble in white nationalist racism. John Derbyshire, accomplished as he was, was just a contributor to the National Review. John O’Sullivan is a former editor of the National Review, a current “editor-at-large,” a fellow at the Hudson Institute, a former speechwriter for Margaret Thatcher, and Commander of the British Empire. He’s also on the board of directors at the foundation that publishes VDARE, the nativist site listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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O’Sullivan was demoted from editorship by National Review ouster-in-chief William F. Buckley during a 1997 purge of Peter Brimelow, a virulent anti-immigration writer (and English immigrant) O’Sullivan championed who went on to found VDARE. VDARE has published a wide variety of extremist white nationalists, like Jared Taylor and Sam Francis.
O’Sullivan is still on the masthead at the National Review, and he was published defending Derbyshire at length at NRO a few days ago.
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Yes, “anti-white racism” is obviously a huge and growing threat in our corporate executive suites, as any glance at the Fortune 500 will demonstrate.
Having allowed that Derbyshire’s piece was sloppy and a bit racist, O’Sullivan goes on to defend each point anyway. Sure, Derbyshire believes that black people are innately criminal and stupid, but is that really a fireable offense? He might be right!
After half-purging O’Sullivan more than a decade ago, what possible reason is there to keep him around to embarrassingly defend his more explicitly awful colleagues? Especially while he’s working with the wackos at VDARE.
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This apparently frightened O’Sullivan into making the obligatory “I’m not racist!” post on the National Review blog. Perhaps Rich “Baby Stalin” Lowry nudged him with a Bushian proposition: “You can be with us, or you can be with the racists.”
Earlier today a website reported that I was on the board of directors of www.vdare.com, which it described as “a white nationalist website.” Here are the facts:
I told Peter Brimelow that I was resigning from the Board of V-Dare in 2007. I played no part in it thereafter. I never had any responsibility for editorial content. But I didn’t want to take even limited responsibility for the publication of ideas and arguments I might not agree with. (The current climate of Left McCarthyism shows that I was right to be cautious.)
In addition, I felt that my position on the board was inconsistent with my continued work with, and loyalty toward, National Review when the two organizations were on a collision course over important questions.
I was personally reluctant to take this step because Peter Brimelow had shown me great loyalty during an earlier period of difficulties at NR. But we discussed the matter and parted company amicably.
Peter himself has always denied that V-Dare is a white nationalist website. For the record, however, I have no sympathy with white nationalism whatsoever; indeed, among other things, I think it is silly.
It’s all rather sickening. O’Sullivan was once a staunch ally of ours, but has crumbled. I wonder if his shameful groveling will save him. (I’m guessing yes, in this instance, because he goes way back at NR.) Still, Pareene most be gloating about the power he has, and the Left clearly smells blood.
So the purge continues, at least in spirit. When I think about “liberals” vs “conservatives” now, I’m reminded of the last scene in “Animal Farm,” when the other animals look into the farmhouse and see the humans and the pigs together.
If NR keeps “eating its own” like this, there won’t be any White gentile males left there, just people like Ramesh Ponnuru, Maggie Gallagher and Jonah Goldberg. For those who grew up reading a National Review that was truly conservative, whose writers were all White males, and which had respect and admiration for the South, watching it become what it now is must be truly disgusting.
Facing the Future as a Minority
White people lost the fight long time ago, in 1913, when Federal Reserve was established.
I am not sure how Whites plan to fight because you need extremely committed, intelligent, brave, resourceful men with lot of ability and wealth.
And you don’t have that and your numbers are also rapidly declining. You watch television and video all day, drink sugary sodas and potato chips.
You don’t exercise, you don’t read and you have no perseverance and determination. Whites are over.
Listen to Ron Paul. virtue and excellence, hard work, he exercises twice a day, large christian family. He attacks federal reserve and Washington DC, the wars.
Follow some of his advice. Learn to be a good speaker, writer, learn rhetoric. It helps.
@Sanjay: I believe you just about summed it up very nicely. On the whole, no honest person could argue with your post. I would only add one more thing, NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GREAT, is ever accomplished without a sense of URGENCY! Now whatever it will be that instills that sense of urgency is anyones guess. So far, insane policies like AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR ANYONE BUT WHITES, QUOTAS, SET ASIDES, DISCRIMINATION OF ALL KINDS, HIGH TAXES, …..haven’t made a dent. RIGHT?
Personally I think WNs need to stop talking about whites being inherently smarter and this IQ thing. I asked my ex-boss, a Jewish Ph.D. in the field of mathematics, Harvard, about this once, what he thought. He told me I was wrong, that IQ levels can be brought up. His opinion was always valued by me, as being always objective and rational.
When the posting of that black woman going ballistic in a classroom during a discussion of plant genetics or something, I thought this incident might happened because somewhere along the line she either came across the book The Bell Curve, or read about or heard about these racialist ideas, and the word ‘genetics’ was the trigger word for her. No one likes to hear they are inferior. It is not helping things any, and might well be a cause for black attacks on whites.
To approach this article I looked over two of Salon’s articles: “Another National Review contributor pals around with nativists” and “Is the right really breaking up with its racists?” The latter article brought up a couple of things that are true enough on the face of it:
“IQ” measures one variety of cultural literacy — are you good at taking a specific kind of test? — not innate “intelligence.”
“IQ is partly heritable, and “race and IQ” obsessives draw from that fact the conclusion that black people are genetically inferior to whites (and, often, Asians as well). ”
” Plenty of things are “heritable” but not genetic — like taste in music. ”
And lastly, this coincides with what my ex-boss was saying:
“The fact that IQ has been steadily increasing for as long as we’ve been measuring it — the famous Flynn effect — indicates that the test measures a characteristic determined primarily by environment. “Heritability” of IQ is higher in more prosperous classes than in lower classes. In other words, “for the poor, improvements in environment have great potential to bring about increases in I.Q.”
And something I myself have observed all my life, and I think I’m in good company with Mark Twain on this one:
” The people who care deeply about the supposed innate genetic differences between “the races” also almost invariably use those supposed innate differences to justify attitudes and behaviors that are indistinguishable from “classic” American racism.”
I think this IQ business really needs to be done away with. It causes Whites in general to be despised by the non-whites, and frankly may well have to do with a reason why blacks target whites for violence. This obsession with IQ also alienates very decent black people, and makes them too very leery of Whites. When Louis Farrakhan said the white man was the devil, I could see what he meant. ‘Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.’ It’s fatalistic and it’s fatal to Whites.
Putting aside this IQ thing might allow WN energies to become more focussed. The only rational approach it seemed to me was the reading and re-reading of Jean Raspail’s Camp of the Saints, where Third Worlders descend upon a host country, spread far and wide and proceed to destroy it.
If the Conservative YAPPERS, as it is currently made up after the purge, would FOCUS their intellectual energies to promote immigration policy (including this business of ‘anchor babies’) to be changed back to where it once was, personally I think everybody would be happy (except La Raza, but who cares about them? They can be shut up as soon as changes to immigration law and closed borders ever took place), including the blacks who suffer from lack of employment with jobs being taken by illegals and Middle Eastern Muslims flooding in everywhere.
According to the Biblical narrative, the blacks are part of the Hamitic race — the ‘servant of servants’. Not the basest of servants but servant par excellence, i.e. the form of the phrase that always means that which is highest: Lord of Lords, Song of Songs, Holy of Holies, and so forth.
The curse of Noah upon his son Ham was not to Ham, but to Ham’s son Canaan (for a reason). The judgment (curse) “was not so much that they were to render such outstanding service to their brethren, but rather that they were to profit so little by it themselves. Japheth [the White race] has been enlarged and most of this enlargement has been not only at the expense of Ham but because of a technical superiority which has resulted directly from building upon the basic foundation provided by the latter. There is historically little or no indication that Japheth would have achieved the technological superiority which he has if he had been left to his own devices.”
If one doesn’t ‘get it’, one might have to think a little deeper.
The right answer to the racism accusation is
Racism is a Marxist construct
It was good enough to beat the BBC when they were trying to stitch up Andrew Brons of the British National Party. It is good enough for us.
Great article. I hope all this firing of people over at NR accelerates the establishment of a truly alternative media. If O’Sullivan has groveled, I hope he gets fired too.
@Mike: There is not one human who is not a “racist”.We all have it by birth.Marxists simply succeeded in making it sound nasty.We are also incorrigible “ingesters”,suspect “genderists”[the ones who recognize two sexes] and rebarbative “timists”[ the ones who adhere to the idea of Arrow of Time]. In a word- show me one person who is not a racist and I tell you he is a self-deluded Liar.
All too often some journalistic coprophag quotes the SPLC and their “List” of organizations and persons they hate.That is brought in as some sort of authoritative source and nothing brings half-forgotten bile of hate in me as that “authority”.Is it not the time that we should open a True Hate List ? My first candidate would be SPLC and this arrogant little tampon-eater Alex Pareene.
@blue rose: Excellent advice, Sister Blue Rose.
Phrasing your argument the way you did, caused a thought to cross my mind. Perhaps those so-called ‘white nationalists’ or ‘white race realists’ within our movement who’ve devoted such a substantial amount of their time and energies to harping on the subject of IQ differences might be doing so, in order to deliberately sabotage the effectiveness of our movement?
As you pointed out, those racial groups who are – by every conceivable instrument of measurement that has been applied – clearly a notch or more lower on the evolutionary totem pole and who cannot possibly tout the same level of achievement as White European people – these racial groups certainly do not like being reminded of their inferiority. In fact, by their apparent obsession to mate with White Europeans – they, by their own behavior, are basically confirming that deep down, they grasp that such a tactic would be a DNA and genetic upgrade for them. Correspondingly, it would, of course, result in a DNA and genetic downgrade for White Europeans.
But, your point is well stated and I think it is worthy of widespread consideration within our movement. Besides, whenever I encounter someone who is white who tends to overstate and boast about the supposedly, on average, high intelligence of Whites – I will immediately ask that boastful white nitwit – “If Whites are so smart, as you say – then why are our non-white enemies, jews in particular, racking up so much success in their malicious agenda to dispossess us inside our own nations, reduce us to minorities inside our own nations, and to brainwash us to interbreed with non-whites and help them engineer our racial genocide?”
Seriously, think about this for a second. If someone had approached me 30 years ago, and offered to make a wager of $100 – that within 30 years time, one could not visit a local shopping mall without seeing young white females convorting with dred-locked, IQ of 80 or lower black males – who’s hand would probably be shoved down the white girls pants, as he strutted around the mall, showing off his ‘conquest’ of some White Father’s daughter – I would have jumped on such a wager and felt 100 percent confident that I would collect that $100.
Reality check. I would have lost that wager.
News Flash: Climbing down the evolutionary totem pole is not a sign of high intelligence.
Another Irish blowhard bites the dust. Or should we say another Irish ass licker bites the dust. LOL.
@Mike:
If you have in mind the old claim — often repeated by the kinds of people that populate the John Birch Society — that the term and concept racism was invented by Trotsky, it isn’t true. It antedates Trotsky.
The word was used in the late 19th century by some leftists. I think most people did not use the word or concept racism because it denoted what was to them a normal attitude and normal behavior, thus requiring no special label. This word and concept has been especially the property of the left because they are the ones who saw it as a problem.
bluerose
The IQ test score and race issue is an irrelevant losing issue. Completetly irrelevant to the race-replacement issue..all it does is sidetrack away from the race-replacement issue.
What we have here going on here is the old double your standard:Pareene is an enthusiast for the expression of mexican,black,asian muslim racial nationalism within the borders of America. Native Born White Americans do not need Parenne’s permission to do the same thing. In a debate, the first thing that I would ask Parenne in a debate is this:Exactly why should the Native Born White American Majority be in favor an immigration policy that will reduce them to an ever dwindling racial minority within the borders of “America” were they will be surrounded by a rapid growing,hostile, and heavily armed non-white majority? As the say:this is a question that obviously answers itself..and Parenne and other race-replacement enthusiasts shouldn’t be the least bit schocked that there is a growing Native Born White American revolt against race-replaement at the hands of high fertility non-whites.
John O’Sullivan has always come across as a prissy old queen who worships the Corporations…and it is the corporations that are the absolute rock-bottom force driving race-replacement. This is why O’Sullivan and the the effemenite Lowry attack the Native Born White American Patriot Movement..because this highly racialized movement will absolutely deprive the Liberal White Greedy Cheating Class of various sorts of post-1965 non-white scab labor..the issue is no more complicated than this.
James Edwards
Since I know you are reading this:get rid of the IQ and Race stuff..it only sidetracks away from the race-replacement issue…which is the overwhelmingly the number one issue staring millions of Native Born White Americans in the face. And if you want the race-replacement enthusiasts to give you lots of free pubilicity…use the framework that I have laid here and various other places..AR and Alternative Right.
Go check out my response to comrade Alex Kurtagic’s essay “Total Erasure” over a American Renaissaince in the comments section.
Wat Tyler had the right idea in 1381
@blue rose:
It depends on what he meant. An individual’s scores on an IQ test can be affected to a small degree by environment, but that doesn’t alter the fact that there are racial differences in intelligence, which have a significant correlation to brain-size.
That said, IQ isn’t everything. Some people have a relatively high IQ combined with a bad character. Intelligence is necessary but not sufficient for building a successful society.
@blue rose: I think your jewish PhD boss from Hahvad was only partially correct concerning his comments on IQ levels being moveable upward, assuming from the context of your writing he was referring to everyone. I think that the scores can be increased within a group of disadvantaged and poor test takers, to their genetic limits. I’m sure your jew felt he was much smarter than almost anyone else, and may well have been. I doubt he felt any average and random kid from the ghetto could receive any amount of education to surpass him and his master race of jews in the brains department. Therefore, was he fooling himself about IQ, or being a deliberate deceiver?
However, I do agree with your larger point. I have yet to see a black go on record as saying, “You know what, you white people are smarter than us, as evidenced by your higher IQ scores on standardized tests. Let me apologize on behalf of my uppity people.”
Myself, I’ve noticed lots of smart people tend to also have high IQ’s. However, like any sign of white superiority, it is relentlessly attacked and discredited. Perhaps this is why some smart people conclude violence might be needed, if reason doesn’t work. Violence certainly worked for Bill Ayers.
@Hadding Scott: To put the point a bit differently:- Racism is a working tool being used by the enemies of European civilization NOW and any time since the 1960s
This punk Pareene is a typical under 30 knows it all but knows nothing jerk.
He is educated beyond his intelligence. He kisses ass and keeps his laughable contributes nothing to society job at Salon. Kind of guy you punch right in the head at the local bar as he spews his multicultural globalist Bolshevik bullshit.
If you really want to get sick read his insane warped Cultural Marxist view on the Trayvon Martin shooting and who he feels is White.
O’Sullivan was one of the first people to notice that any organization not explicitly conservative will turn liberal over time. It is sometimes called O’Sullivan’s Law.
But Pearson’s Law is much better :
Any organization that is not explicitly anti-Semitic ends up being run by Jews.
Pearson’s Law applies perfectly to O’Sullivan’s National Review!
@Hadding Scott:
This obsession with IQ is foolish and idiotic. If a White male watches TV all day, drinks soda, does not exercise his body/mind in gym, in Math/science class he will be dull and stupid in a few years.
If a black pumps in gym, struggles in Math/science, he will be much better in a few years.
Whites talk IQ all day, but do not practice. They watch sports all day like a poop, but do not play.
Like Kevin Macdonald, Ron Paul said, virtue and excellence, large traditional families, smart ethnic/racial solidarity, strong cultural identity – European literature, music, painting, art, will take whites much further than this insane IQ talk.
Why waste time in Tattoos, beer, TV and all the useless junk you collect.
Be a saver, store food, self defense weapons, medical kits for a rainy day, and get a good job, live frugally, and pursue excellence in everything.
Follow Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Kevin Macdonald, they are real scholars. And shun this useless IQ talk of Jared Taylor and other insane people.
Focus on wealth, ability, culture, excellence, ethnic solidarity, large families, your churches.
@Tom: So true Tom. Whether Irish, Dutch, German, Swedish, Danish, Austrian, French Italian, WHOEVER, is duplicitous and has their assess on BOTH chairs as my Grandma used to say when one couldn’t make up his/her mind about something, or some position, deservess the fate coming to them for theat doublemindedness and duplicity, or as you put is, ASSKISSING.
Who cares about NR. Republican print media is all crap. Weekly standard, crap. That goofy washington tabloid newspaper, crap. The American Spectator, crap. All low quality crap and PC bullshit. There is ten times more intellectual freedom on the left. I can say things around democrats and green party type people that would make most republicans blush and run the other way.
Republicans right now are all about 2 things. (well democrats too but lets talk about republicans first) 1– Protect Israel by any means necessary especially war, and generally suck up to Jews. and 2– spout liberterian mantras as an excuse for more ruinous free trade, and to protect investment bankers and banks from the comeuppance that they so sorely deserve– and “deregulatkion” as a vague shibboleth kind of relates to that as well.
Hence, republicans are all a bunch of tools for international money lending operations and jews, end of story.
Prolife– a distraction. Immigration guns — both single issue distractions. PC bullshit– distraction. war on drugs– distractions. Right now economics are 90% of what is really happening. Pro-capitalist economics and the Jewish agenda right now have reached a closer congruence now than at any other time in history. 150 years ago, when landed gentry in Europe still wielded great wealth and power, Marxism and anarchy were the tool of Jewry. Today, it is the Hellenized and generally poorer Jews who have missed the boat and cling to Marxism whereas the Jews who have prospered and also zionism have come together in favor of the international apitalist agenda. For example Islam forbids moneylending. It also puts clerics at the top heap of the state. Not bankers. They also preserve social distinctions between the sexes. Whereas, in the entire secular world, the legality of usury and the reign of plutocracy are absolute necessaries as well the full enfranchisement of women. Not to mention jews of course who are also curtailed in the Muslim world, at least somewhat more than here. Anyhow my point is that the interests of global capital and zionism now are almost fully congruent and you can see how they want to beat down the doors of Iran, Libya, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, and Cuba, all alike, and what do all those countries really have in common? They dont let global business interests call the shots– nor Jews.
Now do Jews control capital? Of course, they are the richest ethnic group on Earth person for person, and by their almost multigenerational control of the US federal reserve they have an almost unimaginable capacity to create money out of thin air to enrich themselves and their allies. Which is why now that Ben Shalom Bernanke has bailed out his billionaire banker buddies, now he’s bailing out European banks too. With the American funny money. Who knows how the federal reserve internal accounting and crime prevention controls work or do they? Whats to stop any BFF of Ben Shalom from calling him on the phone and asking him to wire a few millions into a black account somewhere? We know that the Fed was secretly loaning BOA a billion a day when it was flat out insolvent and they were up there at Congress asking for the TARP and nobody besides Paulson not even his aides knew about the scale of the banking supports the Fed had undertaken. A billion a day to a bankrupt megabank. Who’s going to miss a few millions here and there for black ops?
Look for the neoconservative foreign policy takeover of both parties and the liberterian schtick to further coalesce and appear as the linguistic presets that both party talking heads use as default principles.
I mean here’s Obama, he was supposed to be a big democrat marxist secret muslim. Bwahahahaha. What a joke. His admiinstration has pursued the same two things that Bush did in lockstep.(see above) hell I thought Obama would at least open up Cuba and he hasnt even done that. First black president? His policies have been 100% as bad for black Americans as George Bush’s were.
All this Trayvon crap is total smokescreen, totally irrelevant, total distraction. There are two peas moving around under the shells now and only two peas, the first one is what jews want and the second is what international capital wants. They are moving now together and we should be reorienting our WN thinking hard to the left on economics issues right now.
We should have our own purge. A purge of liberterian stupidity among WN. I suffered from this foolish antisocial capitalist propaganda insanity myself for years and I have fully awakened. Want to call me a NS? Ok suits me just fine. In America where we have no nation maybe I will just start calling myself a socialist for short at least in private and so long as banks, international global corporations and “free traders” are reigned in I say it will probably be worthwhile.
Over at National Review it sounds as if the lunatics really are now running the asylum.
@Felix: Nawww Felix. Just plain COWARDS. Not pleasant perhaps, but 100 percent true.
@Anty Ep: Thank you Anty, OBAMA IS BUSH ON STEROIDS. CASE CLOSED. Why do so many ignorant Americans still think, that the President, WHOEVER HE IS, controls ANYTHING. Just how much more duplicitousness, and weirdness from the office of the presidency would it take for them to finally realize this?!
Is the purge complete? Does it matter? Not really, not at this point. The ignorant, braindead White masses WANT people like Derbyshire out of the public consciousness because it disrupts their mental autopilot.
This is what a lot of us don’t understand, especially when we talk about saving the “White race.” Guess what: the White race is our enemy as well. Today’s Whites are no different from the red army soldiers of WW2, willingly fighting for their jew overlords.
There’s no sense in trying to save a diseased people. I look forward to watching Britain and the Nordic countries turning brown, if only to see White leftists like Alex Pareene go extinct. They’re getting what they deserve for being a weak, stupid people.
On the eastern front in WW2 whenever the Germans captured a jewish commissar they’d immediately shoot or hang him, no questions asked. Europe will never again have this will and clarity. Europe can no longer distinguish friends from foes– they see its friends (nationalists) as foes, and foes (marxists, immigrants, jews) as friends.
So screw it. The judenpresse is going extinct anyway. Let them fire who they want. Liberalism, like all slave moralities, is decay; liberalism cannot save itself. We should stop caring what the press has to say about anything, and simply stick to what we know is true.
I have a final comment on this topic of National Review, with the readers indulgence. It doesn’t matter how many people they fire. Blacks have their magazines, in which all kinds of issues concerning blacks and only blacks are discussed. Oh, yes, many of these magazines have racial comments and essays. Same thing goes for the Mexican/Latino/Hispanic, whatever groups. Voz de Aztlan is radically racial. But back to my point of it not mattering one iotta, one atom, as to how many people get fired at National Review. IF NATIONAL REVIEW DOESN’T STAY “RELEVANT” TO THE NEEDS OF IT’S READERS, IT WILL GO THE WAY OF THE 1872 ISSUE OF THE FARMERS ALMANAC…..and those doing the firing, will be forced to look elsewhere for employment. PERIOD!!!
Whites lose because they don’t control the banks and the medias. Period. (If you don’t understand that, you’re lacking intelligence or sociobiological/financial/historical knowledge).
Now that this fact is established, the question is, what do we do about it?
I’m afraid it is now impossible to take the banks and medias back, because the individuals controlling them have built barriers to entry.
So there is only one solution left, it is flight and separatism. We need to become the Amish or the Israelis if we want to survive.
At this point in history, a WN who still believes that the USA, France or Germany can be “taken back” one day through politics or violence is a fool who does immense harm to our movement.
@fender:
Stop being so bitter and twisted fender. You keep blaming the White people for going and getting taken over and brain washed in propaganda, as if it’s their fault.
You don’t even understand what happened to them to know it was their fault. Maybe what happened was irresistable, or brilliantly executed.
Whatever. The situation is as it is. Your talk of wanting to see the end of your own people just for a little satisfaction in being proven right, is frankly pretty sick. We’re right…we know this already. Pats on backs.
@fender:
To dwell in darkness and despair is to wrong yourself, to drag others down with you is to wrong others. You sometimes make it difficult for me to know who is friend and who foe.
wattylersrevolt
April 19, 2012 – 8:46 am | Permalink
bluerose
The IQ test score and race issue is an irrelevant losing issue. Completetly irrelevant to the race-replacement issue..all it does is sidetrack away from the race-replacement issue.
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I agree 100%. I see no point in this. Everyday 5,000 immigrants enter America. That is what is worrying.
@Anty Ep:
Good points.
@Mickey Meadows:
It’s no one’s “fault,” it’s just nature running its course. You can’t blame Jews for destroying our civilization any more than you can blame a cancer from destroying a body. And I don’t blame Whites for being uanble to defend themselves from Jews anymore than I blame sheep not being able to defend themselves from wolves.
@Alice Teller:
I know I can be grim, but I call things like I see them.
href=”#comment-69903″>Mickey Meadows:
@fender:
This reminds me of something I’ve been speculating about, mainly based on things others have said. I think our tolerance of non-Whites is connected to a virtue Whites have, one which is misapplied in the case of race. We Whites are good at squelching our natural instincts. We, more than most (although Asians are good at it too), are able to exercise willpower to overcome our desires. That’s why Mestizos and blacks are fatter in this country than Whites. We are better at saying no to the natural desire for more sugar. We can make ourselves keep studying even when we long to play Xbox.
We are better than most at enduring short-term pain for long-term gain. That’s all great. But what has happened is that most of us believe our natural affinity for Whites and our aversion to large groups of blacks, is some kind of primitive instinct that needs to be throttled (as if it were a desire to pig out on food or urinate in public).
Whites think they are doing a good thing when they “overcome” their natural desire to form White communities and protect them, like someone who overcomes a desire for a third candy bar. Why?
Because they’ve been taught that their pro-White instincts are “racist” and crude, often by White leaders. There is a long tradition of Whites thinking “all God’s children” are the same, and if we would all just love each other, all differences and conflicts would evaporate. But in the past, the damage done by this thinking was limited. Now, with the arrival of Jews taking high positions in media, who have deep hostility to White societies, the whole thing has kicked into overdrive.
I don’t think Whites are “weak”; indeed, they are often exercising great willpower to embrace diversity, as much as they can without being killed. No, I believe they view their instincts about race as some kind of primitive throwback reaction that must be battled, like an inner demon.
As others have noted about race, it’s a bit like the Victorian attitude toward sex. The Victorians were obsessed with suppressing it. They felt lust of course, but went through ridiculous public displays to show their contempt for it. So, I think it is a combination of incorrect formulations about race, a utopian feel-good worldview by liberals, and finally the arrival of an aggressive anti-White group into positions of power in the West.
I don’t think it’s some horrible flaw in our nature that merits extinction. It’s that our greatest strength (ability to follow an abstract rule even when it is painful) has been turned against us.
@Bigmo:
I agree. Arguments from IQ are inferior for many reasons to arguments from self-defense (pointing out the rising threat and risk to Americans and Europeans), from conservation of nature, and from universal principles of justice and fairness.
@Anty Ep:
Good post. There are valid and reasoned ideas on both the extreme left and the extreme right. (its the extreme MIDDLE that hasn’t a clue)
One place the far left intersects with the far right is the recognition of Jewish double standards. this should be exploited.
If Alex Pareene is to be mentioned then a photo is de rigueur. lmao. Who gives a fluke about NR? Not me. Let the neo-cons have it.
I won’t use National Review to line the cage of my companion parrot out of respect to the feathered species.
And I’m not even a bird owner !
@Jason Speaks:
Your comment was interesting and brought up some seemingly good points that I hadn’t considered. (I write “seemingly” because I’m not an expert; I’m not omniscient.)
But towards the end you wrote something that I want to comment on.
As others have noted about race, it’s a bit like the Victorian attitude toward sex. The Victorians were obsessed with suppressing it. They felt lust of course, but went through ridiculous public displays to show their contempt for it.
Chastity (of body and mind) is beautiful, not some kind of struggle. It might be for some, but maybe that’s because our culture is saturated with sexual images and dialogue. Also, some people, maybe without realizing it, probably do not really want to be free.
Sometimes just thinking about the great virtue of chastity brings a heavenly feeling of peace and joy. I imagine a perfectly chaste society and it’s glorious.
@Richard:
What I wrote was not well written – it was done in haste. Thanks for making sense of what I tried to say.
@Richard:
I want to write more about my thoughts on the greatness of chastity, but there are reasons why I don’t.
I’m not great with words. That’s one reason.
Also, I don’t want to go into personal details because that might make others uncomfortable.
But chastity is so beautiful — like a beautiful garden, full of colorful flowers and sunsets and gentle breezes and loving White people.
When I think of our modern culture and its attitude toward sex, some things come to mind:
Cement; pollution; disease; foul smells; battles between men and women; toxic music; general ugliness; confusion; disorder.
Chastity is beautiful. I’m convinced that it is our way out of the darkness.
Thanks for reading. I apologize if my comment is inappropriate or unnecessary in any way. Have a good weekend, T.O.O. visitors.
@Jason Speaks:
You are on to something here Jason. I would add that we quite naturally recoil from the ugliness of an open conflict. What we are asking folks to do is to re-evaluate the choices made by three generations. We must do it, but it is painful to do so.
Few of us here are willing to admit just how painful this will be. We keep hoping that it is only sheeple or willful fools or evil corrupt bankers who have a stake in the status quo. We keep hoping that we can return to power and continue to indulge in all the popular addictions. I’m afraid it will not be that easy – and no one wants to hear that. We much prefer to keep all our bad, old habits and complain that the evil Jews will never let us win. Jews are, indeed, formidable foes, and they have the reins of power, but they are a tiny minority.
@fender:
Must be nice to have a infallible crystal ball, there.
@Jason Speaks:
The best Whites died by the millions in the 20th Century from communism and two world wars. Most of what’s left is refuse; soft, lumpen, feminized, judaized automatons.
@Alice Teller:
I keep thinking of a nice, but flaky White liberal family that lived near us when I was a kid. They encouraged their children to embrace the outcast. They were for integration. They were for embracing “the other”. Of course, some of the kids had problems in life because of these traits.
They were the kind of family that sat around watching PBS specials and believing in the Politically Correct. They were the kind of settlers that got slaughtered by Indians for letting their guard down. I don’t know whether this kind of person can ever be reformed. It seems to be such a deeply engrained trait, it is almost organic or genetic.
But I’ve often thought, if we ever save ourselves as a race, it will be accompanied by much crying from decent people who thought they were doing “good”.
@Jason Speaks:
Perhaps the too nice among us do some harm. I am more inclined to fear those who have embraced the cult of the victim. Because the current climate is based on lies, far too many of us believe that there is no such thing as personal responsibility. The Huff-post had a blog by a woman in the divorce section. She blamed everyone else for her plight from her ex-husband to her son in a therapeutic residential school. Her major concern was to insist that her child’s inability to control his rage had nothing to do with her, her choices or actions, her divorce or working full time, despite the fact that money was not an issue. The only bad people in this picture are those who might dare to judge her or or her choices.
A people who abandon responsibility are abandoning freedom and control of their destiny. Much easier to blame others for our plight than to man up.
@Alice Teller:
This cult of not wanting to blame anyone or “stigmatize” anyone for bad behavior has allowed the irresponsible to run wild.
@Anty Ep: Great comment, it should be a post on this blog on it’s own!
Personally, I think whites don’t have any clue what it feels like to be an out group, but we’re going to find out, and that right soon. The trouble is, when white people have that collective “oh sh*t” moment where they realize that their nations don’t belong to them anymore, it’s too late. Pandora’s box is open at that point, and there is no going back.
Mass immigration and multiculturalism’s truest danger is that there is no rewind button. No “do overs”. Once you screw it up, you screw it up for the rest of the time that humans will inhabit this planet.
What will take back all of these parts of England, France, and Sweden that have come under the control of non whites? Basically, armed insurrection. That’s not going to happen. Today’s whites don’t have an ounce of what our ancestor’s had. When whites finally DO realize that they want to fight back, there will be far too few of us and no real avenues to take that fight to the enemy with any form of success.
There is still hope in the PLE movement. Not to sound like a broken record, since this is ALWAYS what I post, but:
Buy up the good land! Buy land with a clean water source and arable farmland on it. Buy up the forests. Buy up the temperate lands. Buy land with other whites and form a low key colony. Keep it quiet and legal. Buy land next to other whites so that a continuous, unbroken chain of white land and homes is created.
Land in many parts of the country is still relatively cheap. It won’t be forever. In fact, I foresee a time in the not too distant future where land rationing will start and you’ll have to have a reason, approved by some government bureau, in order to buy multiple acres.
White people NEED to own the good land in our nations while we still can. Don’t get trapped in the cities. They’re deathtraps. When SHTF, the cities will be on lockdown. Martial law and rationing will hit there first. Whites who are stuck in the cities will be hunted by non whites.
We need to become a nation within a nation. The ORION philosophy must become our mantra. We have to focus on the future of NEW nations that we can own, build, and manage by and for ourselves!
Every time I read post at a WNist board talking about IQ tests, I roll my eyes. Let’s first examine who created those damnable tests. Two Ashkenazi Jews. The people should rest our case right there, Your Honor.
But those IQ tests are amazingly fluid. Back when White Europe was still in ascendancy, well the smartest people on earth were White. Now that China is on the rise, wonder of wonders, Asians have higher IQs than Whites. However, the new wrinkle is that Jews have stopped being so shy about admitting that they have the highest IQs on the planet!
Back in the day, Whites recognized that there were book smarts and there were street smarts. The absent-minded professor or nutty psychiatrist were stock characters back then. Moreover, skid row is filled with people of high IQs and low moral fiber. High intelligence doesn’t mean squat; it’s what you do with it.
IMO, we look pretty damned foolish forever talking about our high IQs when we are being punked by lower IQ Mestizos and Negros every damned day and when we have allowed obvious back-stabbing scoundrels like the Jews to repeatedly stab us in the back one hundred million freakin’ times. I think we need to knock it off.
That said preserving the White race does not have to be an exercise in racial aesthetics. I think we can buy a magazine or turn on the boob tube and see that most Whites are idiots, but they are OUR idiots and we need to do what we can to save them until they can regenerate some critical thinking skills after years of relentless Marxist indoctrination.
@Alice Teller:
However, I am increasingly skeptical of the idea that our problems stem from any real moral depravity – I mean the idea that we are more depraved than ever before. I’m skeptical of the claim that if we returned to “the creed” or the “the book”, that it would have any particular affect, negative or positive, on the fortunes of Whites. Those things might be good, but I don’t know how they relate to Whites realizing that race is a real thing, that it matters what people you have in your country (racially and ethnically) and that we must take action soon to salvage the existence of even one White society on earth – some quite reasonably argue it is far too late for the US to be saved.
My fear is that we get sidetracked thinking this is a moral problem.
@fender:
But things like being “judaized” (I am never sure what exactly that means) or feminized are not genetic traits that get passed down. There is always hope with every new generation of Whites.
Now, whites may be a bit overcivilized genetically in the sense that many less assertive or realistic types are able to flourish when there is much food and comfort around – in the past they would literally die off. Although this dysgenic impact is worldwide across all races, not just Whites. I’ve heard that the peak of genetic health among Whites may have been around years ago. Who knows?
So, I hope that 3 generations since WWII isn’t enough to fundamentally change Whites. However, if the process has been ongoing since the mid 19th century, that could be a problem.
But, I doubt there has been enough time for that much damage to be done to our genome. I suspect that basically the good intentions of White people have been misdirected to do them harm.
ANTY EP , there is only one.
Drop by and say hello to your old friends.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59313-Drudge-Reporting-on-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-Obama-Eligibility-Case
MAGNES
Lots of negativity and despair. Hey, the Jews own the banks and the media, it’s true. But they are a VERY small number of people, and they DON’T want trouble with millions of angry awakened whites. We need to start pushing hard for our kind, for our needs, for our agenda. No doubt some will eventually turn violent if our needs are unmet. Certainly the elites know this all to well. I think that we are going to have to fight tooth and nail to force some changes, especially in immigration policy, which must be a priority. I do believe that as more and more people wake up, instead of sitting in the boiling water the frog is going to jump out and wreak misery on those who put him in the pot. That’s what I feel deep down. You can’t just throw up your hands and whine and give up. Inform others, write letters, read and do research, get involved politically, do whatever you can. We are still 70% of the populace.
Pat Buchanan speaks frequently about the dumbing down of America by Third-World Immigrants with low IQ’s who will be governing the United States in the near future. They will be governing Whites. He has a legitimate concern.
No IQ isn’t everything, but why do universities think it’s important, then? IQ’s may rise, but that takes time, and there is a limit as to how high they can go. If they do rise and/or until they do, universities chose students with IQ’s around 110 and higher and how do IQ’s rise from 80-85 to 110 overnight. Studies show IQ’s and SAT scores compare. Evidently, universities consider a higher than average IQ necessary. A high IQ isn’t necessary to be a plumber, etc., but it might to be a government official, company president, or start companies like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Google. Without innovation, we become Third-World.
No, we shouldn’t focus on Blacks, but Third-World immigrants forcing Whites into a minority is a huge concern to me. With them, we have no chance of recovering from low birth rates.
Immigration needs to be stopped, now, but Whites fail to demand it. That won’t solve the problem, but it would slow it down. Sounds like everyone is resigned without a fight.
@Anty Ep: I don’t know of any libertarians in favour of the Federal Reserve System, bank bail-outs or FDIC safety nets. I believe extending loans by book-entry alone (as opposed to lending existing money) to be tantamount to fraud.
The Communist Manifesto includes this as a key priority:
“Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.”
Islamic banking still has all the features of fractional reserve banking; interest charged is disguised as risk premia and capitalized. ☺
http://www.citibank.com/ciib/homepage/index.htm
@Vlad Writes:
Generally, there is no reason for most Whites to think they are superior intellectually when speaking about IQ’s.
Those with the highest IQ’s are Japanese, Chinese (Hong Kong), Dutch and Germans with average IQ’s around 105 to 107, respectively. These scores are from pure ethnicities, not country scores. Studies done on Europeans show IQ’s are higher minus immigrants, so those scores most published are for everyone in the country. In those studies Europeans score from 100 to 104 rather than from 97 to 100.
Japanese and Chinese are beating most Whites in heavily immigrated California schools.
Sorry to harp on this, but the United States didn’t become a First-World country with IQ’s of 85. That’s why stopping immigration is so critical for her survival.
@Jason Speaks,
Conversely one of the issues we have as White Nationalists is not coming across as nice, likeable, reasonable. This is substantially a construct of our White hating opponents but also there may be some truth to it. What is being done to me, my family and my race would make me angry. How do we channel that so there is room to feel love for each other? So that we attract others but not repell with our anger and intensity. How do we find space for those things. How do we have other creeds like and respect us? I do not wish to see Asian or Black people disappear from our earth an neither do I think that they all want that for us.
@Bear:
Yes that’s a good point, although people like RamZPaul are making it better. People like him create a good image for us. We have every right to be angry, yet it is important not to appear only>/i> as angry guys to the public. I think TOO does a great job of that, as do other sites. I don’t think there is anything wrong with being assertive at all. The main problem are a tiny group that insist on using the most inflammatory rhetoric, while speaking on our behalf.
If people want to go off half-cocked, that is their problem, but they should not act like they are speaking for WN.
I wonder why I don’t receive the email comments for this article only? And why a post of mine about Sheriff Joe Arpaio just vanished when I pressed ‘Send’? I notice someone thankfully brought up Sheriff Joe, so I’m giving it another try.
Barbara
April 20, 2012- 12:59 am | Permalink
@Vlad Writes:
Generally, there is no reason for most Whites to think they are superior intellectually when speaking about IQ’s.
Those with the highest IQ’s are Japanese, Chinese (Hong Kong), Dutch and Germans with average IQ’s around 105 to 107, respectively. These scores are from pure ethnicities, not country scores. Studies done on Europeans show IQ’s are higher minus immigrants, so those scores most published are for everyone in the country. In those studies Europeans score from 100 to 104 rather than from 97 to 100.
Japanese and Chinese are beating most Whites in heavily immigrated California schools.
Sorry to harp on this, but the United States didn’t become a First-World country with IQ’s of 85. That’s why stopping immigration is so critical for her survival.
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So you wouldn’t mind if only Chinese and Asians immigrated to America with high IQs? High IQs means more displacement and not less. I would be far more afraid of high IQ immigraton than low IQ. This is why this IQ thing is meaningless. It does not change anything.
It is untrue to say Whites were defeated by Jews because Whites are less intelligent.
We were defeated because of our absurdly idealistic moral fiber. The question is the role Christianity played in shaping it.
Barbara
There is absolutetly no need to raise the IQ and race issue. The fundamental issue is race-replacement and the IQ test score issue sidetracks away from it.
The statistical evidence behind the IQ score and race issue is not as tight as the HBD enthusiasts make it out to be. And the conceptual underpinnings of Bell Curve science are alo suspect..the conceptual critique of Bell Curve theorizing is taught in the vast majority of unergraduate courses in the philiosophy of biology. And because of this, if the IQ test score and race issue is raised in the context of a “debate” on race-replacement, a clever race-replacement enthusiast can sidetrack the “debate” into a debate along the lines of my study versus your study.
Bigmo
Asians are in fact not more intelligent than Caucasions. The Caucasian contribuions in science and technology are enormous. If the Asian invaders were not in California,the California University system would be 90-95 percent White. Native Born White Americans managed to put 12 Native Born White American Alpha Males on the Moon when Native Born White America was 90 percent Native Born White American and NASA was 95 peercent Native Born White American. How did Native Born White America ever manage when there were hardly any asians in America? Very well thank you.
This all goes to show that IQ test scores are largely worthless.
Anyone who goes on the MSM and states that Asians are smarter than Native Born White Americans is doing a great disservice to their fellow Native Born White Americans..comrade Jared Taylor comes to mind..every time he does this he undermines all the very important work he has done up to this point in time.
Asians are in fact not more intelligent than Native Born White Americans.
Nonwhites should be kept out not because of their IQ test scores..but because they are not our kind…this is the strongest possible case-position-argument that one can make against nonwhite immigration.
Pat Buchannan did a great disservice by focusing on the IQ test score and race stuff in his new book…as a consequence he made it a debate about the quality of the nonwhite immigrants entering America…therefore, some nonwhite immigrant groups are preferable to others..and we all know what that means:asians are preferable to mexicans. Now when you combine this with his advocacy of Brimelow’s immigration moratorium,you get what is essentially a case for a race-replacement immigration policy:legal immigrataion can increase when labor becomes scarce and wages start to rise again…bring in those smart asians. Buchannan and Brimelow are effectively making the case for Native Born White American race-replacement. And since Brimelow is bringing Derbyshire onboard vdare.com, we should expect more enthusiasm for asian legal immigration on vdare.com..you have been warned.
@Jason Speaks:
However, I am increasingly skeptical of the idea that our problems stem from any real moral depravity – I mean the idea that we are more depraved than ever before. I’m skeptical of the claim that if we returned to “the creed” or the “the book”, that it would have any particular affect, negative or positive, on the fortunes of Whites. Those things might be good, but I don’t know how they relate to Whites realizing that race is a real thing, that it matters what people you have in your country (racially and ethnically) and that we must take action soon to salvage the existence of even one White society on earth – some quite reasonably argue it is far too late for the US to be saved.
My fear is that we get sidetracked thinking this is a moral problem.
Your comment wasn’t addressed to me, but I want to respond to it.
I think a person might be able to make an argument that the average American is more selfish and hedonistic now than ever before, especially the younger generations, which I still consider myself a part of. We have access to every temptation, and the permission from our immoral / amoral culture to indulge.
I’m all for encouraging and helping other Whites to see themselves through a racial lens, raising racial consciousness. Which is what you suggest in your comment.
But, like some others on T.O.O., I believe that the inside must be healed first and strengthened before any real, lasting progress can be made. If we focus merely on numbers and external symptoms and try to fix the exterior, without acknowledging that the problems have an interior source, then our plans and efforts will not amount to much if anything good or lasting.
I’m not omniscient, but I have given this issue (moral regeneration, especially chastity) a lot of thought. And there is no doubt in my mind that we need a moral regeneration in order to have real lasting progress. Anything less is bound to fail.
I don’t know what you mean by the “creed” or the “book”. Maybe that means the Bible. (I’m not putting those words in quotes to sound mean or anything like that.) I figure that non-Christians and even atheists can see the value in chastity / sobriety / moral regeneration.
In fact, some parts of the Bible do not line up with my idea of good morality. I believe that sexual is for procreation. And I believe that recreational drug use (including alcohol) is sinful. Most Christians and Christian denominations seem to allow recreational drug use (alcohol) and recreational sex between married couples, even if they don’t use those terms.
Sin (of body or mind) brings negative effects. The commenter “Robert in Arabia”, under the article Trayvon Martin: Previewed by Hollywood” wrote about the “explosion” of easily accessible pornography that happened in the 1990′s due to the internet. Not only is every kind of pornography free and easily accessible to anyone with the internet, but softcore pornography is used in advertisements that the average person cannot seem to avoid. It’s virtually everywhere, out in the real world, and on the internet.
People’s language has become increasingly crude, etc.
Those are some examples. This culture will continue to pay for its sinful behavior, even if it does not believe in sin or acknowledge certain behaviors / attitudes / desires as sinful.
I think even some non-Christians are able to see this.
The good news is we are in control of our destiny. Right now we are like an alcoholic in the bar who is mad at the bartender for refilling his drinks. But the drunk keeps drinking them, instead of taking responsibility to leave and sober up and clean up his life. He continues to blame the bartender for serving drinks and making them look appealing. The bartender does not care about the alcoholic, and is happy to take his money.
Maybe that’s not a good analogy. It popped into my mind. But I see truth in the idea that we Whites are ultimately responsible for our current situation, as much as we’d like to put all the blame on some malevolent force outside of us.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t address individuals and groups that are harming White people. But we need to understand that things won’t really change on the outside unless we heal on the inside.
Take care all.
@Anty Ep:
Wow! Best Post Ever!
@Jason Speaks:
Perhaps it will help to think of it as a pragmatic problem. We live in a world that lies and promises us that we can all do as we like and the consequences will be socialized. No one should have to face the likely results of foolish choices. We have the right to walk naked except for a diamond necklace down any street in the world and not be raped or robbed. Nice idea, bad choice. Ask yourself what the idea of nanny-cams really means. We can all pretend that affirmative action is a wonderful thing, completely compatible with freedom, and ignore all the facts that tell us that ever since we have started hiring and firing based on notions other than competence the country has gone steadily downhill.
I understand that some are turned off by the idea of morality. This is merely another aspect of the attack by our enemies. It is actually the accumulated wisdom of our ancestors, based on what works.
@John Phelps:
Hear, hear!
@Richard:
I agree with much that you write about, but I disagree on your position on marital sex. Yes, sex for reproduction is best, but it is not the only gift to married couples. The simple truth is that sex can also be a method of bonding, expressing affection and many other good things within marriage. As my grandmother told me, there are times in every marriage when the only thing you have going for you is sex and good manners.
Panina
April 20, 2012- 7:47 am | Permalink
It is untrue to say Whites were defeated by Jews because Whites are less intelligent.
We were defeated because of our absurdly idealistic moral fiber. The question is the role Christianity played in shaping it.
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This is an interesting point. Jews cerrtainly have not been able to manipulate Blacks or Latinos the way they had done with Whites. Also Arabs are not being manipulated like Whites. I think the reason has to do with implicit Whiteness. That is most Jewish activists in America played on implicit Whiteness of Whites by portraying Jews and Judaism as an extension of Western (not Middle Eastern) identity and values. This is why most Whites see Israel positively while they see Palestinains negatively. The Judaism portaryed on Hollywood and popular media is an enlightened progressive Judaism. As Israel retuurns to its Talmudic roots and becomes more and more Eastern (deeply ethnocentric and deeply gender biased) many Whites will see a different kind of Judaism they saw in Hollywoood and the NYTimes. The Islam bashers of today would be the Jew bashers of tomorrow.
So I do not think that universal values is how Jews suceeded with Whites but implicit Whiteness. Chralton Heston in Ben Hur is a prime example. Also the Israel defense force spokeswoman during the 2011 Gaza war (who dyed her hair blond) and faced some critcism from some Israelis shows that Jews are fully aware of portraying themselves as an extension of White identity so Whites identify with them more.
So it has a lot to do with Media domination, understanding of White biases and also keeping their agenda hidden. This could not be done unless Jews operate as a group.
@blue rose:
That’s right. Every gentile must find his/her personal jewish guru on whom to lean.
The moment to address the usury issue is now. You dont need to wait around forever to make moves that will help you get active and organized and grow power. You need to take initiatives and get active now. You use the opportunity of activism to attract people and you train them OJT.
One of the problems with WN has been that it is residual from right wing formations that collapsed. Hence it has always hesitated to antagonize people perceived as wealthy potential donors with Marxist like talk. “Socialism!” has been a bogeyman, and, the legacy of the Jewish presence on the American left an equal deterring force at the same time. But this is not destiny just history. Right now there is a hundred times the opportunity to recruit strong active cadre not from the fewer and fewer rich but from the ever increasing ranks of newly poor, which includes btw, people who thought they were middle class and now know better.
What is rich? Easy answer. If you dont have 10 million in the bank then you are not rich. Now everybody else which is probably 100% of the audience here needs to wake up and smell the coffee and realize your physical economic existence is just as precarious as those autoworkers of yesteryear whose jobs have now all vanished. I am talking about the pathetically sycophantic global business managerial caste, largely white and college educated in this country, that can be fired and replaced by computers who can do their jobs more efficiently or offshored to Mumbai to other English speaking intelligent dusky hued Indians, and yes that happens ever more so increasingly. These folks will make fine recruits and we can see in the ranks of existing WN activists increasingly well educated people who have woken up and realized that Harvard is now owned by Jews and the USA is no longer a WASP operation. And that whatever misery used to be meted out on the lessers will now fall increasingly upon us.
I realize I am not the first to say this. Tom Metzger has been saying this for years unfortunately Tom was scraping the bottom of the lumpen barrell mostly and it got him into trouble. But I think he had the right idea on these economic issues and the massive potential that a more socialist orientation would provide pro white activists.
Today the issue at hand is usury. According to hillaire belloc, the single biggest factor that lead to collapse of Byzantium was not martial conquest but Islam capturing the loyalty of the people. And how was that accomplished? Remember Belloc was an Englishman but an ardent Roman Catholic. Belloc said that it was a consequence of widespread usury throughout the Empire, from North Africa to Palestine to Anatolia, Greeks tolerated usury.
Lending money at interest was a big part of the Eastern empire’s social and economic fabric. USury was known by the ancient pagan Greeks and several of the great philosophers condemned it. Yet it was practiced widely and you can imagine in the cosmopolitan megapolises of the Eastern empire it flourished. It remained so even after the Western part implemented a ban on usury. That ban was enforced by the Roman Bishop, the Pope, who by crowning the Franks “Holy Roman Emperors” had really pissed off the sitting Eastern Emperor. In the east the Catholic ban did not hold.
But Muslims promoted cancellation of interest. Their courts would not enforce collection of interest from a Muslim. I think the principal, perhpas, but not interest. Take a look at a 30 year amortization and you will see that is a lot of money even at a low rate. So the poor of these giant cities like Antioch lets say had a big motivation to convert to Islam and support Muslim conquest. And they did en masse and quickly. The Byzantines were sent packing.
In the west we had laws against usury even in moneylender’s utopia America, right up to mid nineties when the Supreme Court declared these state laws unconstitutional. That was shortly after Salomen Bros had began securitizing home mortgage loans and selling on Wall St (subject of good book “Liar’s Poker”) Usury caught on in the home loan business like wildfire with the “ARM” and subprime loan. Those merged with securitization of mortgages and the lying cheating banks misbranded them AAA and they were snapped up like wildfire, in the aught years, by institutional investors like CALPERs who is only now getting around to suing someone over the billions lost to this fraud. And the money flowed, the loans got easier to get, the bubble grew, etc you know the drill and it popped and here we are with urban blight all around the country that is ten times worse than what ever we had seen before. And not a single banker has been hung! Thats what we need to see. After a fair trial of course. Even Giuliani was able to bag Boesky and Milliken and a few other big name Jew shysters– what has happened in the meantime? Did somebody repeal the 1933 Securities act? Does RICO not apply to frauds perpetrated by billionaires? Has anybody bothered to bitch about this total lack of law enforcement? Apparently not. Apparently everybody is content to tolerate the usury system and the rape of the common good by billionaires. That is how pacified the goyim sheeple are now by the jewish social engineering tricks.
here’s a few specific nationwide plans that we could begin talking to regular people about and it might actually do some good and represent something very relevant and helpful to John Q Public who is not exactly responsding to more abstract issues that we have previously been discussing. Here’s some more pithy grist for the mill.
1– implemenet laws against usurious consumer debt. Limit interest to prime rate plus three percent for all consumer loans including home loans. End of story. Poor negroes can’t get loans? Tough cookies. 2- Give bankruptcy courts authority to cram down interest on home loans. This was discussed but never legislated, I think the Greens were the only ones with the balls to suggest it. Banks fought it of course. Repeal the last BK act revision. make student loan debt DISCHARGEABLE in bk. 3- Arrest top fraudsters who were responsible for overrating crap bundled mortgage debt and selling it on the market. Charge them with securities fraud and use RICO to make it stick to as many rich bastards as can be found. Use asset forfeiture laws to seize a few billions to hire the extra security that will be needed to protect the prosectuors who have the balls to do somethning this instead of going around picking on pathetically insignificant dope dealers.
The people now who have the stones to do an agenda like tehat are mostly organized labor and “the greens.” aka “socialists.” If WN would get off the false dreams of the phony right wing and actually promote some economic policies that would be good for the millions, maybe the millions would suddenly start callign themselves WN instead of thinking it was just a bunch of cranks.
Why this additional long rant and why here? NR thats why. Its just the kind of sop thats been keeping WN types tied to the phony right wing and bogus republicant party for decades. Just reject it and move on to greener pastures. lets not forget Joe Sobran either while we’re at it. I havent seen anybody mention him and this is just what happened to him. How long are we going to be fooled by this pathetic dishrag? Repudiate NR and all the phony false conservativism it stands for now and today’s more updated version, the nonexistent utopian twin which is liberterianism.
Another point, Judaism has evolved to be a minority strategy unlike Sunni Islam which is a majority strategy. Like the minority Islamic sects (the Alawites, the Druz and Ahmedis etc) Jews survived by a strong Taqiya function where very little of the religion is exposed to the public, strong inter marriages and strong cohesiveness among the in group. The Alwaites of Syria basically took over Syria relying on a proxy ideology like the Baath Party (Arab Nationalism). The Sunni Arabs of Iraq also relied on the Baath ideologies to hide their agenda in a country where they are a minority. Jews often use a proxy like Communism or other universalist ideologies to hide their agenda. This works because minority strategies rely on strong cohesiveness and hidden agendas. They can not openly declare their sectarian or ethnocentric agendas. Sunni Islam meanwhile makes their agendas known as they were always the dominant sect in Islam and see no reason to use proxy. For them its my way or the highway.
But i believe this is done (universalist ideologies) to hide the Jewish agenda rather than to appeal to Whites. Its implicit Whiteness that appeals to Whites. Israel is promoted as being the only true democracy, Judeo-Christian and liberal and secular and European looking who love Jesus while Arabs and Muslims are portrayed as backward, dictatorial, Christian hating, woman bashing and Jesus hating dark looking zealots who follow a pedophile prophet. But as Israel reveals itself it will back fire.
The Russians seem to be making some progress in regards to protecting their race.
http://rt.com/politics/ethnic-russians-launch-protection-537/
Thanks for this continued focus, James. Your exposure of this climate at NR provides an excellent litmus test for aspiring White conservative writers who are “getting their feet wet” but haven’t taken the plunge into Neoconservatism, out of naivete.
I say, let the pogroms continue. Publicity of this mindset will only work in our favor. In one sense, it brings to the surface the two sharpest and most dangerous facets within the Neoconservative wing, the homosexual and the Jewish. By observing these two types attack traditional American White views, it will only send more normal youngins in our direction.
In another sense, it is a wakeup call for those who think they can still make it by staying within the terms set by the Neocons. Keep on with the chutzpah, RJC and Bill Kristol! Man, if these guys would ever truly study diplomacy, maybe they could successfully rule the world. Unfortunately, for them, they always overreach themselves and turn a blind eye to their increasingly obvious hypocritical endorsement with the right hand, of Israeli ethnic cleansing/settlement expansion and, with the left, of White American male castration. But, I guess, those intoxicated by their own power get lazy and comfortable. These guys will fill the ranks for us.
As more of the race-conscious White conservative intelligentsia are made to kiss the dirt, they will develop new strategies for entrenchment and competitive outreach.
Also, thanks for the ‘honorable mention’ of the last Traditional bastion in the US, the South. Despite the Neoconservative slant that the mainstream there has been duped into backing as evidenced in the GOP primaries, it is in the South that we find the intellectual fountainhead of the resistance, reaching all the way back to Jefferson. The irony, of course, is that it was not the South who rebelled in the grand scheme of the American experiment. It was the North.
Continuing to emphasize the philosophic differences between these two traditions will effectively polarize the Neoconservatives and their Jewish whips. Exposure is good. Information to the people is good.
Neoconservatism is the Trojan Horse that has been let into the gates. Let us resurrect Hector!
I have never, never seen what conservatism has to do with White nationalism.
The Nixon and Reagan administrations were as or more pro affirmative action as the Democrats. Indeed, affirmative action really got going during the Nixon administration.
Clarence Thomas was Reagan’s head of the EEOC. During that time the EEOC eliminated the old PACE or professional and administrative careers exam.
This was not an any kind of aptitude test. All applicants for a job that required a BA, MA or PHd were required to pass it. It was no big deal for a college graduate.
It was basically a high school exit exam. All it required was 12th grade reading and 10th math ability.
It was abolished during the Reagan administration because blacks with their affirmative action degrees failed it.
I cannot think of one, not one thing conservatives have done for Whites in the last 50 years.
The only laws that have helped Whites in the last 50 years are the 3 strikes you’re out and ending parole. Those laws help Whites because the black predators who target Whites now serve terms in prison.
BUT those laws were not passed by conservatives. Many were passed by referendum. All, all of them were created and pushed through by prosecutors and police organizations that worked through so called citizens front groups. That is how those 3 strikes laws were passed.
Thinking that conservatives will help Whites is ridiculous.
I too read NR for years when it published anti affirmative action articles in every edition. I loved NR because it was the only conservative magazine that dared to publish article about black crime and affirmative action.
Ever read the Weekly Standard? Not a word about black crime or affirmative action. Has the Manhattan Institute, Heritage Foundation, Hoover Foundation etc ever come out against affirmative action and black on White crime?
White survivalism is not conservatism. The pro Israel, anti abortion, anti vulgar entertainment, pro American, pro military adventures, conservatives don’t want us.
They are as much our enemies as the ADL, ACLU,SPLC
and the US Department of Justice.
@mari: The coalition that brought Reagan in, was made up of many different streams. One of the most prominent were the Wallace Democrats, who had recently jumped into the GOP in the decade prior to Reagan’s first term. These were the White Southern and Midwestern Conservatives who had recognized that the Democratic Party had been swallowed by Liberals and multiculturalism. Many of them had vociferously fought against forced integration and busing during the previous two decades.
The Neoconservatives were also part of this Reaganite coalition. They represented the ideological influence of Manhattan Jews who had, according to Irving Kristol’s apt saying, “gotten mugged by reality,” and jumped ship to the Republican field.
If you study Reagan’s campaigning strategies prior to the 1980 election, he had to appeal to both sides of this coin in order to win. He made stump speeches across the South with populist states rights’ themes that would’ve been sure to garner support from the White conservatives. Yet this would have simultaneously turned off the Neocons had he not also made concessions in their direction, offering up many of the policies you mentioned.
The implicit nature of the racial message was viewed as a necessary concession to the atmosphere of the times. And this strategy continues to this day.
However, as we know, the Neoconservative portion of the Party betrayed the White race-conscious Southerners and Midwesterners. And this component is in ascendancy. It is cannibalizing its strongest base and has completely marginalized “Middle America” with its policies and rhetoric. It is systematically rooting out any remaining vestige of the old Wallace Democrat/Paleoconservative components left within the GOP’s intelligentsia.
I mention the South like a broken record because it is the key in understanding the fork in the road that currently exists on the American Right. Southern conservatism used to always mean a defense of the white race and its interests, no matter how it was couched.
Contemporary GOP is the party of Business Roundtable, military-security complex, unrestricted outflow of capital and out-of-bounds inflow of foreigners (legal or not).
That a determined clique of poorly reformed Nu Yawk trotskyites came out triumphant in a battle to supplant the non-interventionist old guard of the party merely adds an extra layer of clarity to the realization that this ain’t your father’s republican party any more.
Virtually every shabbos goy sooner or later is doomed to end up with EXPIRED tag affixed to his forehead by the very same people whose balls he’s been so eagerly washing throughout preceding years.
Look up the experience of senator Al D’Amato of Judaic-triggered Swiss bank shakedown saga of the late 1990s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a45z_HG3WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOHOHKBEqE&feature=relmfu
@Alice Teller:
I’m not turned off by morality, I’m just not sure that every problem is a moral problem. Nor can I see how our current race problem in the US and Europe, is fundamentally caused by moral lapses on the part of the majority. Nor can I see how people going to church more or being more responsible, as laudable and positive as those things are, will do anything about the 100 million brown people living in the US, or the fact that the most common name for new babies in London is Mohammed. I am not anti-morality, but I fear we get into a frame of mind that thinks “if we all just went to church more” all our races problems would disappear, as if by magic. They wouldn’t. And it almost, in itself, becomes a way of avoiding real responsibility for doing something in the real world.
@ Mike
“The right answer to the racism accusation is
Racism is a Marxist construct
It was good enough to beat the BBC when they were trying to stitch up Andrew Brons of the British National Party. It is good enough for us.”
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I disagree. The correct answer is Enoch Powell’s answer when accused of being a racist. – ‘If by racist you mean that there are differences between the races, then yes, I am a racist. If you mean that I believe one race is superior to another, then no, I am not a racist.’
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An IQ test is a tool used to determine a person’s ability to reason. They were/are based on what was understood by the “normal” for us. An Inuit may test to a lower IQ than a white, but whom would you want to guide you to safety if lost in the Arctic? I’ll go with an Inuit over a white man any day.
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Whites have been played for fools for centuries. Roman Christianity, including Protestantism likely played some part in it. Jews have used the formerly honest character of Europeans to lead us to the slaughter. as we continue to deny that there are people who are psychotic enough to want to take over the world, literally. They have been called parasites for 2 reasons: 1) they live off the native population through control of finance. (Remember, to Christians money/gold was unclean.); and 2) parasites make their hosts do things that are not in the interest of the host and often dangerous to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyd8NmLJwcM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IDKUbh8kI&feature=related
@Bigmo:
This is environmental suicide as well as cultural.
@Anty Ep:
I agree with you on much of the problem but differ on the solution. The reason no one is in jail is because our corrupt system allows bankers to write the laws. That means that there is no correlation between legality and morality or decency. To me, libertarianism means less government for our enemies to control and influence.
@Curmudgeon:
That is a good answer to the “racism” charge. that is if you have time for an extended conversation and the other person is sincerely interested in your answer. however, I still think pointing out the contradiction of antiwhite’s is the best approach. How exactly do they attack Whites as a group if they don’t think races exist? How do they go about assigning collective guilt to a newborn White baby, if race doesn’t exist?
And then you have the problem that in some countries it is quite literally illegal to proclaim yourself a racist. actually it is illegal in almost any White country except the United States
@Jason Speaks: @Anty Ep:
I agree with you on much of the problem but differ on the solution. The reason no one is in jail is because our corrupt system allows bankers to write the laws. That means that there is no correlation between legality and morality or decency. To me, libertarianism means less government for our enemies to control and influence.
@Curmudgeon:
More fundamentally, why are we as Whites answering their questions? Why do we play along with letting them put us on the defensive? We aren’t doing any harm to anyone. They are the ones, the anti-Whites, who are flooding every single White country with nonwhite immigration. They are the ones who exhibit hatred for White culture everywhere. We aren’t the bad guys, they are. Why not immediately turn it around and grill them about their
anti-White actions?
@Jason Speaks:
Nor can I see how people going to church more or being more responsible, as laudable and positive as those things are, will do anything about the 100 million brown people living in the US, or the fact that the most common name for new babies in London is Mohammed. I am not anti-morality, but I fear we get into a frame of mind that thinks “if we all just went to church more” all our races problems would disappear, as if by magic. They wouldn’t. And it almost, in itself, becomes a way of avoiding real responsibility for doing something in the real world.
Hi Jason
I’m not assuming this comment is written about me, but it allows me to clarify something about myself.
I don’t attend church. Nor do I belong to any denomination.
I believe semen is sacred and when a society does not honor that fact, bad things happen. Maybe that sounds strange or something negative. But I believe it.
Moral regeneration isn’t just about doing A, B, C and D or avoiding A, B, C, and D. Not that you were saying that.
@Jason Speaks:
Virtue and morality is not only a Christian idea, the pagans felt it was essential to a good life. We are losing, or have lost, the consciousness of ourselves as active agents in our own destiny. We are abandoning the very concept that we have the power, everyday, to improve or screw up our lives. If we are all victims, than we have no choice but to ask our betters to try and help out.
Perhaps an example will help. I once knew a young single woman who became pregnant. As good Americans we rushed in to do everything we could to spare her feeling. As we planned a baby shower for her, her European Grandmother was furious. Her point was that we would of course help the young woman, quietly and privately, but to celebrate the situation was to give the message to all the other young woman in the family that this was just peachy. She had not made good choices. Her child would suffer no matter how good a mother she was. To pretend otherwise is a lie.
We have reached the point in this country where a lesbian adoptive mother of black kids can cast scorn on a woman who is married and has five children. She essentially called her a parasite. Those who defended Ann Romney did it on the basis of choice. All choices are to be respected. No one was willing to say that Ann Romney was a better mother because she devoted herself to children and family. Only paid employment has any value. Can you not see that this is hurting white folks and our future?
@Alice Teller:
I apologize for the double post. Pixies in the keyboard again.
@Richard:
Hello. Well, I guess it winds up being like most religious or spiritual statements – an assertion that a person can believe or disbelieve . However, I don’t doubt that many religious and spiritual practices have positive benefits. But I think it would be unwise for people concerned with the ongoing genocide against Whites to just turn inward – they need to look outward as well to real-world solutions.
@Alice Teller:
Yes, I agree with everything you said – well except maybe for an implication or two. And yes,that European grandmother was right, even though we Americans bristle at the thought of being “judgmental”. Yes, White people – and brown people for that matter, need to be more responsible and held accountable for their actions.
But how does that help with the 100 million brown people in the US right now? I fear that you think that if we were all better people, that somehow that problem would take care of itself. Whites are now less than 50% of all babies born, so this is a demographic problem as well.
Look at another country. White people living in Brazil could adopt high moral standards tomorrow, and that would be very good, but it wouldn’t change the fact that they live in Brazil – that they are a shrinking island of Whites surrounded by browns.
@Jason Speaks:
I seem to be at a loss, and I ask others to weigh in. The connection seems so self-evidently true to me that I do not know where to begin.
How many of those immigrants came here to serve the two career family? A generation later, they are Americans and will not sink so low as to serve others so we need a never-ending supply of cheap nannies and gardeners. Most young women have completely accepted that they can only fulfill themselves in a career. By the time they know better, it is often too late. Surveys show that most mothers prefer to be home with their babies. All of this contributes to the decline in the white birth rate.
Above all, when we allow our children to view “victims” as the heroines of our society rather than the pathetic fools they so often are we are giving them permission to cast their lot with the rainbow coalitions, rather than grab hold of their own destiny – for good or ill.
If we are going to win here, that means toughening up. That takes virtue and character, including a willingness to take responsibility for our own choices and actions. We are a self-indulgent lot and our enemy is encouraging us to wallow in it every step of the way.
@Alice Teller:
This comment was beautiful. I didn’t know about the Ann Romney situation.
You and I disagree on the issue of the purpose of sexual intercourse within marriage, but other than that, I agree with virtually everything that I’ve seen you write on T.O.O.
And I admit that I’m not married, never have been. And I understand that my view on the purpose of sexual intercourse is not shared by the overwhelming majority of Christians and non-Christians.
To be honest, I don’t really enjoy sharing my view on the purpose of sexual intercourse. I do it because I feel some kind of responsibility.
I don’t want to keep writing more, adding to this comment thread, because I sense that I’ve taken up a lot space already, but I feel the need to add/clarify something else.
You mentioned the idea that sexual intercourse is a way for husband and wife to bond. And I’ve heard that explanation before, even from Christian denominations. I’ve been thinking about addressing that point on my blog, long before you wrote your comment. So if I do address that point, and if you happen to read my blog, I hope that it won’t be seen as a direct response to you. I especially hope that it won’t be seen as an attack. I’m a big believer in the idea that sexual intercourse is sacred and is for procreation. I think there are millions of non-sexual ways that husband and wife (or just two people in general) can bond on a deep level and show beautiful affection.
@Alice Teller:
You are talking about the moral state of our society, and you have correctly diagnosed it, at least in my book. We do have a moral problem, and/or a problem with personal responsibility. However, you seem to be drawing a straight line from out moral laxness to the creation of our non-White problem. If so, I would disagree (not that they aren’t related at times).
The immigration act of 1965 was not created by a lack of church attendance or the indulgence of “single” Moms. I don’t think you are factoring in the role of malicious intent by people on the other side. They have an active dislike for White people. And some of them are trying to reduce Whites to a minority (or less) position for reasons of political control. Whites in the US and Europe have been largely taken advantage of in this regard. Again, time and time again, Whites have actually hurt their own self-interest, often knowingly, in order to comply with what they felt were moral imperatives to be inclusive and “open”.
@Richard:
Thanks, Richard. We can’t agree on everything. I think it is difficult to fully understand another’s calling. I would never take any offense from your blog. Your choice of artwork is really lovely. Keep up the good work!
@Jason Speaks:
I am not sure that our positions are mutually exclusive.
@Anty Ep: Could you spot me one hundred thousand for a couple of years, interest free? Much appreciated.
@Anty Ep: I don’t know how you can praise Sobran, and condemn libertarianism in the same piece.
http://www.sobran.com/reluctant.shtml
@Jarvis Dingle-Daden: Finkelstein recounts the D’Amato shake-down of UBS and SBC in his book:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/holocaust-industry-norman-finkelstein.pdf
@Jason Speaks: “I’m not turned off by morality, I’m just not sure that every problem is a moral problem.”
Yet your reiterated concern for the survival of whites is wholly a moral one, an appeal to the unfairness of white genocide.
@Trenchant:
I don’t think of our survival as a subset of any moral system. If we all die, our moral systems won’t exist anyway, won’t be discussed, won’t have any impact on the world. We have primacy over any moral system. How could it be otherwise? We create moral systems; they don’t create us.
I don’t know if I would say that my desire for White survival is wholly about fairness, if fairness means that in some sense it is simply “against the rules” for Whites to be wiped out. I can imagine no scenario under which I would say it was “fair” for Whites to be wiped out. If I accept the assertion that the objection to genocide of my people is wholly about fairness and morality, then I might have to accept some situation in which I had to say, in effect, “OK, you can exterminate us under these conditions, because then it would be moral”.
Under no circumstances would the extermination of Whites be acceptable to me.
Translating “my desire” into “our survival” means you’re going to have to use abstract moral arguments to sway others. Failing that, it’s just like saying “Under no circumstances would boysenberry ice-cream be acceptable to me.” Just a quirky personal preference.
@Jason Speaks:
1965 happened because Whites are gullible and Jews are cunning. Second, Jews are driven. They are on a mission to destroy Whites.
Whites are not driven. And they have no mission.
No drive, no mission, no goals, thats why Whites are losing.
-Allow me to butt-in,because I do believe your terse assessment is exactly on target. Everything,all our problems hang on that dead tree. Radical absence ,shameful gaping hole where our National Vision should be burning brightly in every American soul.Each day directing its promise toward making the country better,glorious and love-deserving.
We lost it one might say because of liberalism that change the country into some laughable Diversistan, far too trevonian to feel emotional authenticity of connection,belonging necessary for national Vision.
@Sanjay:
In 50 years there will be NO majority White countries on earth. Yet Africa has over 50+ all black nations that will stay black. Asia will also remain totally Asian. It is White countries and only White countries that are being flooded with non-Whites and it is every single White country.
When the Chinese try to force assimilate Tibet, it is rightly called genocide. Genocide does not require lining people up and killing them.
If Africa was undergoing forced assimilation and massive immigration of non-blacks to the point that every single African country would be non-black by midcentury – well we would know what was going on; the media would call it genocide
@Jason Speaks:
Unfortunately you are right. Han invasion of Tibet is genocide.
But non white invasion of West is diversity. That, my friend, is the Jewish strategy.
And you are completely helpless as your family, children, heritage, culture, ancestry, civilization are being annihilated by Jews.
Blacks may have lower IQ, but they are winning the numbers game. Just look at African births.
Whites are the past, blacks are the future. That is unless Whites wake up rather quickly and recover their heritage and their families.
You will have to give up TV, soda, beer, fatty foods, hedonism.
And return to your nearest church, find a wife, a job and rebuild your community.
@Jason Speaks: You make very good points there, Jason. It is almost like a high to do something good that hurts, and sustain it. Somehow, that has been hijacked into thinking it is good to destroy our solidarity, our whiteness, to help others while we kill our own people.
@Sanjay:
Whites will have to wake up fast because the time is short – shorter than most of us realized. However, Whites have enormous resources to draw Paul and if they do wake up. And in the long run, I don’t know what we have to give up TV or beer or fatty foods. Especially if we gain control of the media.
@Jason Speaks:
My message got garbled. I meant to say whites have enormous resources to draw upon when they do wake up. And if we take over media in the long run we don’t have to turn off our TVs or live like hermits.
@Sanjay:
I don’t mind non-Whites winning the numbers game as long as Whites have one strong, advanced nation dedicated to themselves. Strength in numbers is pretty much obsolete in today’s world.
@Jason Speaks:
And in the long run, I don’t know what we have to give up TV or beer or fatty foods…
And if we take over media in the long run we don’t have to turn off our TVs or live like hermits.
Hi Jason
I haven’t seen anyone on T.O.O. advocating a hermit lifestyle.
If some pro-White people do live that way, that’s understandable; because many parts of our modern society/culture are very unhealthy.
Do you think television, even if it is owned mostly by Whites, would be good in a society based on capitalism? My question is genuine,not rhetorical. I honestly don’t know the answer. I haven’t given it much thought.
I figure that in a society like America, one that seems to be fueled by greed and narcissism, television, even if it is run mostly by Whites, would still be unhealthy.
Regarding fatty foods… some whole, natural foods such as nuts have high fat content (the good kind of fat.) But if you are talking about processed food, most of which contain genetically modified ingredients, then that doesn’t sound good for Whites. Even processed food that doesn’t contain GM ingredients is probably not ideal for any human.
And beer… I might be in the minority on this issue but I think recreational drug use is wrong, no matter how benign it might appear to some people, or no matter how much a part of our past it is. It seems like an attempt to temporarily avoid dealing with reality, which can be difficult sometimes. But in the long run sobriety is healing, the best path.
I’ve been doing something that has helped me, and I’ll share it here in case it helps other Whites. It might be based on some Eastern religion like Buddhism. I’m not sure. Basically I allow any suffering that comes into my awareness. Just allow it. It sounds simple, and it is, but in a way it can be difficult at first because it’s sort of unnatural — our natural instinct is to avoid mental suffering. So we change the subject in our mind or find something to occupy ourselves or turn to drugs or television or some other form of temporary escape. But allowing suffering to exist is very healing. I feel it (the suffering) in my body and in my mind, and I just sit in a chair and allow the suffering to exist, and if it goes away, then it goes away; if it doesn’t, then it doesn’t. I think it has to play itself out, go away on its own. It can’t be forced out by drugs or other forms of escape. Maybe this practice is related to Christianity, too. Christ’s acceptance of his cross, bearing it without complaining or trying to flee.
I’m not an expert on these. I haven’t really studied it. But I thought I’d share it because it seems like a healthy thing for me and maybe other Whites too.
@fender:
That’s a good point about numbers. Whites have never been a majority on earth – ever. We just want White societies that can thrive. And I’ll take as many as I can get it, even if it’s just one. However, I think goal should be as many as possible. After all, Africa alone will have 50 black nations.
@Richard:
Self-control is certainly a virtue too many Americans have lost. I don’t think is anything wrong with any of the things mentioned – TV, movies, music, even a good fat meal sometimes- any of it. But, all things in moderation. Too many Americans exercise zero self-control.
Now, I suspect some of that stems from living in a society that seems to be “dying”, so there is a rush to indulge short term pleasures, as opposed to thinking long term.
Anti Ep wrote:
“If WN would get off the false dreams of the phony right wing and actually promote some economic policies that would be good for the millions, maybe the millions would suddenly start callign themselves WN instead of thinking it was just a bunch of cranks”
For the win!
@Jason Speaks:
I use Powell’s example, because he defines what he is. He embraced being called a racist but did not allow the questioner to define racism. I have often taken a similar tack when I see it coming. I have found that I have stopped people dead in their tracks when taking the offensive. The next you see it coming, ask the person if his/her kids are betrothed or married to a person of colour. If they answer no, ask them why not, perhaps they haven’t encouraged it enough. If they waffle, you know they really don’t believe in it, and are in a position to tell them they are naive.
I have always found the best defence is a good offence. The Jews excel at it.
Wow. Peter Brimelow is “virulent”? Does that mean he’s contagious?
I think I’ll have to check that guy out.
I might want to get what he’s virulently got!
The only basis for the strength of a people is a nobility rooted in individual moral character. The fact that the fall of the White and particularly the Anglo-Saxon peoples is happening at the same moment that these people are abandoning Christian moral strictures is no coincidence.
So what about the fact that other groups seem to prosper without being especially virtuous? Note that these other groups thrive only in the context of a larger post-Christian society that has let down its moral guard while, for a time, retaining some of its material wealth. The peace, order and ensuing prosperity of a once morally vigorous society (and we know of no instance where such a society was established outside a Christian context) attracts free-loaders. Our moral degeneracy (which dissolves all authority and autonomy) gives others the opportunity to exploit our wealth, the product of our fore-bearer’s diligence and fortitude, and, ultimately, to dominate our society. That this degeneracy has been actively and profitably facilitated by other groups is irrelevant. We could have said no, but we didn’t.
The ethnic subversion of the West is an opportunistic infection of a still outwardly prosperous but gravely morally sick society.The only basis of a society we would recognize as moral is Jesus Christ. Rather than having the guts to demand that others live up to His standards or get out we have thrown Him out.
A race of fornicators, druggies, home-wreckers, sodomites and TV-viewers will never be able to defend itself.
@blue rose:
Err…why are you listening to a Jew?
IQ has not been “brought up”. Most ghetto rats have long ago resorted to the mean of their Race. Yes – more intelligent Blacks have been rewarded, and advanced – - but there are simply more Blacks around .
IQ is really important. It drives a WEDGE between Races. All wedges are good.
@Julian Curtis Lee:
Peter Brimelow is LOVELY.
@Jason Speaks:
I am almost sorry that I brought the issue of morality up. Jason, you are quiet right that we must be moderate. Since the Greeks we have known about the golden mean. I am not in favor of banning pleasure from our society. I am in favor of rediscovering the notion that we can affect our own destiny. This depends not on external circumstances, but on ourselves. Perhaps Jews have thrived because of their intense distrust of the larger society.
We do not have to turn into sanctimonious prigs in order to do this. We do have to teach our children that choices have consequences. Thanks to the media we are surrounded by an never ending stream of temptations. We must all learn which are most dangerous to us as individuals. Folks with a susceptibility to alcoholism should avoid drinking, the rest of us can enjoy a glass of wine from time to time.
We must admit to ourselves that we were dazzled by our own strength and wealth, and accepted the idea that we could be made immune to ill effects. When individuals and local organizations were responsible for charity we had the concept of the deserving poor. This was a learning experience for all involved. Those in a position to give learned to be grateful for their blessings, those who received sometimes learned how to improve their lot in life. Those on the edge had strong incentive to avoid the shame of asking their fellows to support them. Contrast this with our current plight where is can seems foolish not to get on the gravy train.
Religious strictures are not there to kill all the fun. They are sensible rules for doing what countless generations have learned works. Everyone was sure that the pill made all rules regarding sexual morality obsolete. Didn’t work out that way. We now have lots of STDs, infertility, and lots of very unhappy people who thought they were playing by sensible rules. We have a shockingly high illegitimacy rate – and those kids are still poor little bastards. They will suffer for their mother’s choice.
So Jason, here’s my suggestion. Let’s go have drink, then beat them into submission with mantras and go on a diet on Monday.
Religious strictures are not there to kill all the fun. They are sensible rules
Do you people even pay attention to what you post? There is as much garbage here as in a Youtube comments section.
Religion is “by faith and faith alone.” “Sensible” means based on evidence of the senses, which is the diametric opposite of religion or faith.
This sort of out-of-focus malarkey is standard fare for humanity. It is on all the WN sites, all the liberal sites, all the libertarian sites, all the Objectivist sites, all the religious sites, all the skeptical sites, all the universities, all the cocktail parties, all the coffee klatches, all the newspapers, and so on.
Nothing is rarer than clear thinking or a mind in full focus.
@Mazzio: Mazzio, thank you for this. I have been trying to get this point across, to European-Americans, many of whom stupidly think that Christianity, had nothing to do with their rise in power on this earth and in this nation. I think the problem is, that many Americans with Christian roots, are confused by the inane evangelical form, especially here in the states, that Christianity has morphed into. At one time, Christianity gave Europeans the strength to conquer every part of the earth that they stepped on. There isn’t the slightest doubt about this in my opinion. Now, confused and confounded Americans are surprised at the fanatical faith and the action it leads to that other cultures exhibit, while they are left in a nation spiritually dead, with nothing to believe in but the things you mentioned. Attack on Christmas, attack on Easter, attack on everything that used to be taken as holy in this country. Why do we allow these attacks? STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. I share with fender, the utter contempt towards so many clueless Americans today. We have become a JOKE a thing of ridicule and contempt around the world and even in our own nation. SHAME ON US.
@TabuLa Raza:
Please note that I did not refer to the central truth of religion, but the strictures, definition: A restriction on a person or activity: “religious strictures on everyday life”.
definition of sensible:(of a statement or course of action) Chosen in accordance with wisdom or prudence; likely to be of benefit: “a sensible diet”.
In my opinion, nothing is rarer that people who have an open mind rather than the endless ability to critique others, while never offering a helpful suggestion.
@Bobby:
I certainly agree that many whites the world over have become lost and confused. Can we find it in our heart to have compassion rather than contempt for our own people? We are often in danger of becoming a tiny group who congratulate ourselves on our superiority rather than leaders who help our folk to the light.
@Panina: I would ditto what Panina has said. This suicidal streak that is so deeply engrained within the brains of so many millions of otherwise reasonably intelligent White people and which chains them to these self-destructive ideological fantasies, i.e., idealistic moral fiber – this has to be one of the most frustrating and potentially fatal traits of our race of people.
And, yes – this ‘Christianity’ insanity has played a huge role in fostering these self-destructive ideas and suicidal behavior patterns within our people. My own understanding of this problem recognizes that there was a time when Christianity was not so anti-white as it has become today, and that the Frankfurt School trained Cultural Marxists tactically decided to infiltrate and subvert the Christian religion and to transform it into a tool and a weapon that could help them engineer the genocide of White European people and the destruction of White Western Civilization.
And, this is exactly what has happened to Christianity. It has become one of the enemy’s most powerful and effective weapons to achieve White European genocide.
@Luke: You are absolutely right,Luke in your unhappy assessment of the contemporary Christianity in regards of White National interests. Because of universalism,because of constant recruiting it turn toward non-whites of all shades and exotic backgrounds.I feel very ambiguous about that painful matter because even my dearest friends are deeply religious and hebraic imagination is what is residing in their hearts.It is as if outwardly they were white but inside this jewish psychodrama is constantly enacted,with jewish characters,heroes, precepts,jewish ancient histories and their solutions. Protestants are filled to the brim with jewishness of Old Testament and Catholics dedicated themselves wholly to some mexican religion.White Nationalism sounds to them simply like KKK plus NSDP; not very reputable.Yet,those ARE our people- I despair about it and complain in my sleep to Thomas Jefferson about it!
@Jason Speaks:
Jason – you say time is shorter than we realized, but how short do you think it is?
I see America as the nation most under the jackboot, and most soon to see a White minority. But America will still have about 200 million Whites. A south africa it will not be. Also, it isn’t clear how minority status will impact on White Americans. It could be a kick in the ass.
Across the West in total, I would say that we have about 50 years to get a solution implemented that secures White living space and continuity…and begins the process of pushing invading peoples back toward their ancestral lands.
What do you think?
@Richard:
Hi Richard, Yes the acceptance of suffering and the concept of offering the suffering to God is a Christian concept. Have you considered joining a church and finding a spiritual adviser? There can be danger in traveling the road alone.
@Jason Speaks: This is an interesting and well stated point. I have an old White male buddy from the military – who, after 4 failed marriages, wound up nabbing himself a Filipino woman for his last and final wife. This woman is a great individual, on a personal level, and has been a good wife for this friend of mine – but, just as Jason points out – she has managed to influence my White male buddy into a state of total and complete ‘de-racination’ , which has rendered him completely unable and unwilling to take his own racial group’s side in the debate over massive third world immigration into a nation that rightfully and justifiably belongs to the direct posterity of our 100 percent White Founding Fathers. This white man now seems to hate his own culture and his own race, and frequently whines about the victories of our White ancestors during the 400 year struggle with the various Indian tribes – as if, believe it or not, he wishes the Indians had exterminated all of the White settlers and defeated their efforts to tame and settle the frontier. That such a reversal of fortunes would have prevented him from ever being born seems to somehow be beyond the scope of his IQ range.
Anyway, this Filipino woman arrived inside the USA at some point in her mid-to-late twenties, so I would assume that she has not spent 5 minutes sitting in an American History class and probably knows very little about the history of how America was founded, settled, tamed and created – or else she would understand that this nation was built by White men and they made no bones about the fact that their desire was to keep it a White homeland for European descended people. She seems to be clueless as to who did all the hard work, and who suffered the hardships and who made the painful sacrifices that were necessary to create Western Civilization.
And, yet – in what I consider to be mind-numbing display of brazen arrogance, this Filipino woman seems to believe that Whites, such as myself, who are opposed to being race replaced inside THEIR NATIVE HOMELANDS and who speak out in opposition to it, are somehow uniquely ‘evil’ and ‘racists’. Is that not an incredible demonstration of unbelievable GALL? Were White Europeans flooding into the Philippines by the millions and displacing Filipinos, demanding that they receive special preferences in hiring and employment, in college admissions, and be favored over the native born Filipino people by the government in every area of Filipino society where ethnic competition existed – what would this woman’s view on that situation most likely be? Or, the reaction of the native born residents of the Philippines? If White Europeans who were already inside the Philippines demanded to be allowed to import every member of their family tree, visi vi, chain immigration, in order to further accelerate the displacement of the native Filipino people? How would that go over with the natural born, native population?
We all know the answer – they would fight tooth and nail and protest it at every turn, and demand that their government cease with their race replacement and race displacement policies. And, eventually, if that government refused to listen and heed their native people’s demands – physical violence would erupt and those arrogant, demanding, obnoxious alien White Europeans would very likely become the targets of that violence and morally justified resentment.
So, it is clear that Brother Jason is correct when he accuses the non-white immigrants who are flooding into our nation of exhibiting ‘hatred for White culture everywhere’. These non-whites want to steal our birthright and to appropriate our heritage for themselves, and large numbers of them also want to use White European people as breeding stock – to upgrade and improve their genetics, but in their hearts they despise White culture and White Western civilization and they demonstrate that hatred by having the gall to deny us our justifiable right to exist and to secure a future for our White children.
@Bobby:
I seriously doubt, that “Michael Lowry” is Polish or Russian or a Jew. LOL. Lowry is National Review founder, and Irish Roman Catholic, William F. Buckley’s hand picked boy.
@Mickey Meadows: I’m on board with securing a section of territory that is exclusively White only. And, let’s make darned sure that we come up with a strict set of requirements-which must include some kind of genetic testing, to prevent anyone with jewish DNA from trying to pass themselves off as white and gain residence inside our White homeland.
@blue rose
Thanks for the laugh. The intimidating description of your supernatural boss – Jew!, PhD!, math!, Harvard! – really cracked me up.
However, if I were you – and you were not in reality a jewish PhD level math wizz yourself – I would take his views with a grain of salt.
@Alice Teller: Alice, there comes a point, when compassion is a moot point, for certain people that habitually engage in things that they can clearly see are destroying them. Whether it’s overeating, smoking like crazy, never getting any physical activity, drinking alcohol to excess, or simply being willfully blind to political issues that are killing their group, the time comes when compassion is wasted on them and only disdain remains. No one can feel much for the bum on the park bench, that goes through life begging and ignoring himself and others. Somewhere in the Old Testament, there is a saying to the effect that one should not associate with FOOLS, for a fool damages everything in his path including those that he comes into contact with.
@Luke:
This DNA testing is very important. Thanks for the comment. Crypto-Jews infiltrate very easily.
Nixon was a crypto-Jew. He deceived the gullible Pat-Buchanan. Took dollar off gold. Massively expanded Welfare. Did not wrap up Vietnam soon.
Nixon mixed with Kissinger, Haldemann who were Jews. His whole administration was filled with venomous Jews.
Nixon’s ancestors were Mihous, crypto German-Jews.
@Mickey Meadows:
10-15 yrs max. after that you will need a lot of miracles.
@Mickey Meadows:
You know, I don’t really know how much time we have left. It depends on what we mean, but I’ll just speak of the a crucial period of being when half of formerly White Western nations are non-White, and especially when those under 40 are half non-White.
In the US, just over half of all new babies are non-White right now. The future is here for them. And the latest I’ve heard is that by 2040, the US will just under 50% White. That’s just about a generation away, and it will happen for the under 40 crowd much sooner. So, it looks like things are accelerating.
Once we become majority non-White (especially among the physically robust crowd), it seems less and less likely that any trend can ever be reversed. So, for the US, I think we may only have about a generation left (say 20-25 years).
Europe (I hope) will stay Whiter longer. I am hoping that Germany will come to its senses and stay White. And I hope against hope that England will. England is quite a bit more White than we are, correct? But I know London has already been virtually taken over by Muslims. So, for Europe, I would think 50 years.
However, as you know, we must start changing things now. If Whites start waking up in 2039, I suspect it will be too late. That doesn’t mean Whites vanish from the planet immediately, just that by mid century, they may literally have no homeland on earth to call their own. This certainly true for Western White countries.
@Luke:
I understand your consternation about having a friend get a Filipino wife. I had the same thing happened, although it was his first official wife. He claimed to be against the attitudes of American women (which pretty much meant White women). I understood his complaints about White American women , but there is no reason to MARRY one of the non-Whites. If he wanted to run around, well, that’s a separate issue (whether right or wrong), but to actually marry one was insane to me.
And now they’ve had a baby. I tried bringing the topic up a while back, before marriage and baby, but he made it clear that he just wasn’t concerned with race. However, I now realize now he WAS concerned with race. He specifically wanted a non-White wife and was apparently was willing to breed non-White. That’s going a bit far to satisfy your grudge against American feminists.
Yes, the gall of non-White foreigners is unbelievable. I met a Filipino girl who went on and on about how some “racist” cops had bothered her brother. As you point out, they have no history but the official Politically Correct history. They easily slip into the feeling that they are entitled – indeed more entitled than American Whites are.
Can you imagine immigrating to Japan, especially if you came from a shoddy country, and then spending all your time defaming the Japanese? The lack of character and gratitude is stunning. A pathological hatred of Whites has set in, one which celebrates what would otherwise be called genocide in any other land.
If we saw people celebrating and gloating that soon the Philippines would be non-Filipino, or worse, that every single Asian country would be majority non-Asian soon, we would now what it was.
@Bobby:
Bobby,
Sanjay is right on the money, how much wealth has been siphoned by the Jews in the Federal Reserve for other Jews and their causes. INsanity that they exist and that they are not audited. So are you.
There was a political coup in the 60′s in which the Jews took over this country. There was a complete transfer of power from white Americans to the Multiculturalist. Every law passed from that time on has been to alleviate white people of power, money, and country.
Every law passed has been unconstitutional yet neither party gave a squeak. Whites whine and complain but accomplish nothing because everyone is in on the joke but whites.
Whites are taught that if they don’t buy into the program there is something evil and wrong with them. So whites have turned on themselves and each other.
Because whites have no power we have been pushed out of institutions our forefathers created, watched our country being Balkanized, watch while babies are murdered, gotten into insane wars in the middle east that are only a benefit to Israel.
The Republican party is 90% white and the Republican Party has done nothing for the civil rights of white America. In the Republican party we do not vote for candidates, we vote against Democratic candidates. Have any of us asked why? Because not one Republican white American could have any respect for the republican candidates and their values.
In my 68 years, I have only seen 2 men who were worthy to be President: Ross Perot who tried to save American jobs, and Ron Paul who stands for the Constiution and America.
Whites must unite and start actions that are powerful, bold and brave.
In the 60′s there were 2000 black newspapers. I doubt if there have ever been 2000 white owned papers. Today the Jews own all the “white” newspapers, and the Jews virtually control ever thought and perception Americans have.
While whites are being murdered and tortured by blacks( 2 white boys recently set on fire by black youths, no coverage)
The Martin/Zimmerman case is every where, NPR has done countless programs, Sirus NYU Doctor radio has discussed.
Until white organize to go after the political parties with law suits, there is no hope.
anabelle, I haven’t the slightest disagreement with your post. All I’m saying is, whites are their own worst enemies. They do not work as a group to further their interests, and when I hear some European-American always say they can’t, I think why? Why not? It’s been our own cowardice, jealousy of each other, and a willingness to accept a system we damn well know is utterly hostile to us. Until We change, nothing changes.
IQs are not rising. The best explanation for the Flynn Effect is that better nutrition speeds brain development. So people develop faster, but ultimately, IQs in mature adults are not much greater now than in generations past. Thus, an 18 year old today has a higher IQ than an 18 year old 100 years ago, but after allowing time for maturation, a 30 year old today has about the same IQ as his counterpart 100 years ago. Similarly, adolescents reach puberty much earlier on average than those of centuries past (due to better nutrition), but have about the same fertility once they are mature adults.
IQ is important. Its a significant part of the discussion, and is a critical element in why Hispanics and Blacks perform poorly in an advanced civilization. Perhaps its not the most important factor, but it has its place in the debate.
And Im getting so sick of the defeatism and whining that “all is lost” from some quarters; its pathetic. Events are in play, the movement is growing, and its still very early in the game. Put away your “the World is Ending” sign and do something productive, for God’s sake.
@Sanjay: I think what they need is a better message and a few clever and appealing spokespeople who can stay on message and think on their feet. There is huge talent in the white community, huge economic power, and potentially huge political power. But tapping into all that is an ENORMOUS challenge.
@Mickey Meadows: I agree that it’s mostly not white people’s fault that they’re so brainwashed. Powerful forces have spend billions of dollars and employed many of the best minds in the world to brainwash them en masse. It’s been going on in the movies and on radio since at least the thirties. Academia was taken over around WWII. Since then white Americans have been bombarded with the message that it’s evil to be exclusive, to pursue their own group interest, and to even consider themselves a distinct people. They hear it everywhere, every day and even from their own white leaders. “Racist” is THE worst epithet after pedophile, and it’s hurled at anyone who steps out of line and on national TV. Where white people did drop the ball a bit was in the fifties. They were too lazy, to ill-informed, and too busy chasing material prosperity to bother to find what changes were occurring in their own countries and to organize to stop them. But given what was arrayed against them and the paucity of good information (even now) it’s little wonder they couldn’t figure it all out.