The Fairness of Whites as a Critical Weakness

Editor’s note: This is a comment on Colin Liddell’s Plasmagoord and the Sigma Signals.

Here is the essence of what I feel is the primary weakness that has somehow been implanted within the genetic makeup of White European people. This foolish idea that seems to exist within the vast majority of our people’s minds – our Aryan sense of fairness, and the clearly stupid idea that Whites can expect to receive fairness and be treated honorably by non-Whites, if only we can manage to explain to them how they are being unfair to us. Our enemies, primarily the Jews, but in the long run – all non-white races who constitute our racial competition – have very cleverly sensed this weakness in our people and they have done everything possible to pour fertilizer on it, to make sure that it blossoms and flourishes among our demographic group. For it is this weakness, this Aryan sense of fair play and honor – that hands these opponents the means by which they can exploit and take advantage of our natural tendency towards treating others fairly, as we mistakenly think they will treat us if they wind up in power and rule over us. It is this stupid and clearly suicidal notion that leads Whites to vote for non-White candidates who are seeking to obtain political power and dominance over societies and nations which Whites built. Incredibly, these kinds of Whites never seem to be able to grasp the extremely deadly and potentially fatal danger of turning over political power to their racial competitors.

News flash: These non-whites have not at any time in world history, and will NEVER treat our race with any sense of fairness at any point in the future, because non-whites are not genetically engineered to possess these kinds of traits.

Yesterday, I was watching the latest speech by Jared Taylor who was invited to speak at Texas A&M University a few days ago. Taylor ran through his usual talking points about how diversity is not a strength, but a source of incredible conflict and misery and that everywhere on Earth where diversity exists, racial, ethnic, and cultural tensions are always at very strained and tenuous levels – and more often than not, these tensions erupt into very bloody violence between ethnic groups. The standard Taylor stump speech.


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Anyway, the video never panned across the audience, so the viewer had no way of knowing whether any non-whites were in attendance. During the Q&A session which followed the conclusion of Jared Taylor’s remarks, all of the voices that were heard asking questions seemed to sound like they were coming from very polite, very cordial-sounding White people who were in the audience. This was quite a contrast from the speech Taylor gave at Towson University a few weeks earlier. In that one, for the length of time I could bear to watch it – every single questioner was a minority, and they were all very hostile to the ideas that Taylor had expressed during his talk – and it was pretty clear to me that non-Whites do NOT approve of Whites being able to express their perfectly legitimate, perfectly natural and normal, ethnic specific interests. The racial deck is stacked in their favor and they want it to stay that way.

So, what’s the point behind my mention of the Texas A&M speech and other speeches made by Taylor? It is this: When a White spokesman stands up in front of an audience, whether it is populated by all Whites or by a combination of Whites and non-Whites and then proceeds to try to appeal to a ‘sense of fairness’ that clearly does not exist within the genetic blueprint of non-Whites and when that White spokesman tries to point out the unfairness that goes along with this hypocritical double standard – he or she may as well be barking at the moon.

Not only does this approach bounce off of the heads of non-whites, making it both ineffective, as well as a little bit comical – it also gives the impression that Whites are pleading with non-Whites to see and respect our point of view and to make allowances and concessions that address our legitimate concerns. This is not going to ever happen, in the first place and in the second place – it reinforces the idea inside the heads of these aggressive and highly predatory non-Whites that the White man is scared, weak, on the defensive and that they have got him on the run. So, they immediately think: Why should I compromise now, when we are so close to our final and ultimate victory over the White race?

Believe me when I say that the only way to deal with this existential threat to the survival of White European people is from a position of strength and confidence and with an attitude of uncompromising determination. We will not ask minorities for their permission or for their approval in matters that relate to the survival of White European people – that is the formula and template that will yield results in our struggle, friends. Initially, minorities might not like this approach – because it will mean that the White man will no longer let himself be intimidated by the race card, and that will be a shock to their ability to scam the system. But, as I said – we have to drop this suicidal desire to seek the approval of our racial competitors; we will never get it. What we need from our racial competitors – is respect, and perhaps even a little dose of fear to go along with that respect – because, after all, in the third world that these minorities belong in – fear and respect go hand in hand.

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258 Comments to "The Fairness of Whites as a Critical Weakness"

  1. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 12, 2012 - 7:58 am | Permalink

    @Joughin: There does seem to be a preponderance of pro-White males in our movement who lack the necessary amount of testosterone to play offense, as opposed to playing defense.

    The fact that liberals on the left are comprised primarily of limp-wristed cowards, feminized men, and sissies – but are still somehow able to stomp the right’s hind parts – should be a very clear sign that our side needs a change of leadership.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      November 12, 2012 - 2:57 pm | Permalink

      @Luke: This Neanderthal thinking may have been fine yesterday but today its who has the money has the power.

  2. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 11, 2012 - 5:20 am | Permalink

    @Chechar: Here’s what I found on a fishing expedition:
    1 Timothy 5:8
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

  3. November 10, 2012 - 6:02 am | Permalink

    @Mike: Nice one, when was that ?

    I do believe Brons would have made a better leader than Griffin, who constantly attempts to take the submissive PC approach that Luke has mentioned in his fine article.

  4. November 9, 2012 - 1:30 pm | Permalink

    “strenght and confidence….uncompromising determination”
    Yes, but this is what is relevant once the door opens. In
    politics, the most that can be done is to be poised for effective action. The doorways of opportunity are not opened by people. They open or remain closed by events beyond our control (but that need not be beyond our awareness). Things need to get worse before the chances
    of opportunity will be much better for us. Disciplined patience is the complement to “uncompromising determination”. Since the entirely unprecedented features of
    contemporary life are destroying much of traditions and of
    a sense of “us” / “them”/ everywhewre, it may well be that “we” will be
    emergent in a larger context, say, of a meld of Russian
    and Eastern European realists and a very large residue of
    realists descendant from the America of our memories.
    “We” will be defined by a deeper sense of shared biological
    origins as contrasted to “them” It’s an anachronistic sarcasm
    to speak of an “Amerian renaissance” .

  5. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 8, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    @Chechar: I found the trackback you referred to. Sorry for the confusion.

  6. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 8, 2012 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

    @Chechar: I think you forgot to post the trackbacks, or else they got lost en route.

    I read about a hundred pages of the Eco novel before I lost interest. A good friend who speaks and reads Italian told me that the original was vastly superior and derided the translation as incompetent.

    The translation could hardly have been more of a hatchet job than the movie was, however—that much was clear even with only a hundred pages under my belt! Nancy Mitford once wrote to Evelyn Waugh to ask him whether she should take a lot of money from a Hollywood producer for the rights to make a screen adaptation of one of her novels (I forget which) or take a smaller but still pretty enormous payout to retain rights to approve a screenplay. Waugh (whose reply is in his collected letters) told her to maximize her profit and never have anything more to do with the adaptation. Hollywood, he said, was incapable of either faithfulness to or comprehension of a literary source and produced little but trash. Plus ça change …

  7. November 8, 2012 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Just click on the second trackback below and you’ll find the link to what I said of Wuthering Heights. By the way, both the Swede and I focus on what we call “secular Christianity”, which is what drove the world mad after the revolution. During the High Middle Ages it’s rather the Fraticelli, not exactly the Franciscans, what looked mad. (Did you read Eco’s novel?)

  8. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 8, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    @Chechar: Be fair, Chechar. The Franciscan rule (even the discalced Franciscan variant) is one of moderation, not extreme mortification. Francis himself is a special case, in that few are given either the burden or the opportunity of bearing the stigmata.

    Now, fifty years post-Vatican II, the Franciscan situation has largely grown very worldly indeed. One might say that Franciscans are suffering from a different secular form of Franciscanism. Few preach and teach as Francis directed. Many now clutter the airwaves with pious platitudes or occupy comfy chairs in university faculty lounges. I don’t think it impossible that Himmler could be a better moral exemplar than some of them are.

    Incidentally, would you be good enough to remind me on which thread I can find your analysis of Wuthering Heights? I meant to copy and forward it to several people of my acquaintance, but I didn’t. Lately I find more and more that if I don’t strike when the iron is hot, my memory grows cold even more quickly than the iron!

  9. November 8, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Once again, my comment got stuck in the filter…

  10. November 8, 2012 - 1:09 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Here’s an idea: what if our problem is not our sense of fairness or individualism or egalitarianism, but moral fanaticism? This is something I’ve been thinking about lately: the idea that Whites are moral fanatics. More so than other races, we desire to be “good” no matter what the consequences are.

    I have quoted the following passage several times and will continue to quote it to convey the idea that the moral grammar that has been killing us has unconscious roots in Christian axiology. A Swede that is now retired from the boards wrote in a counter-jihad blog:

    With Christ as part of the equation, the Christian ethics of the Gospels became balanced. Humans were seen as imperfect and it was Christ who covered for us with his self-sacrifice. In Secular Christianity each person has to be like Jesus himself, doing self-sacrifice, since there’s no other way to realize Christian ethics. On top of that, with the Industrial Revolution and the surplus it created in our societies, we came to the point where all the good deeds of Christian ethics could finally be executed by giving off our surplus to all the poor and weak foreign people around the world: food, Western medicine, and other aid.

    We should remember that our progressivist paradigm, which is always going left, is based on Christian ethics. And Christian ethics means the inversion of values. So it’s the weak that is considered good, while the strong is considered evil.

    Since I was a Christian, actually an admirer of St Francis in my Catholic years, I think I’ve developed a psychological knack to decipher the progressivist paradigm that has infected the West. Every time I look at example after example of deranged altruism throughout the West, especially toward the non privileged races, I cannot apart my mind from my own biography, when I admired St Francis’ acting out his emotional issues through eccentricities that, presently, could only be labeled as “self-harming.”

    Remember my comment about Wuthering Heights in a TOO thread about crazy Swedes? The eccentricities of the Fraticelli, so well depicted in Umberto Eco’s The Name of the Rose, were barely tolerated by the Church in the 13th and 14th centuries precisely because, if accepted by the mainstream, this inversion of values inspired directly on the gospel would destroy Europe (St Francis himself aged and died prematurely as a result of his extreme mortification of the flesh). Alas, once secular Christianity was established after the French Revolution and each westerner had to be like St Francis himself, doing self-sacrifice, moral fanaticism went amok among the deists and the atheists starting with the fateful emancipation of the Jew.

    It is my belief that, presently, we are suffering from a secular form of runaway Franciscanism throughout the entire West.

    A Nietzschean revaluation of all values back to saner times is what whites need (that’s why the young Hitler, who also was born Catholic, carried a copy of the Zarathustra in the trenches of the First World War). Since what we now need is the scorch-Earth scenario that the commenter Mark has been proposing in some TOO threads, I am tempted to write a book that shows my spiritual odyssey under the provocative title “From St Francis to Himmler” but, paraphrasing the gospel, that word would be hard indeed.

    Who would be able to hear it?

  11. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 6, 2012 - 10:21 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: No fears, mate, as our friends from Oz say. I don’t blame you for content on the Internet. Not just yet anyway.

  12. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 6, 2012 - 7:49 pm | Permalink

    There must be serious pent-up demand for alternative voices and entertainment.

    That is very true.

    Imagine having to create quality material and all the while having to follow the strict PC guidelines. Soon you would be putting out the same crap over and over again with no hope of improvement and with only sensationalism as to try to “entertain” the audience.
    Oh yeah, that is how it is now.

  13. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 6, 2012 - 7:34 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: It would be interesting to find out the background to the time-delay increase. Who coordinated it, and whether it went into effect uniformly. Norman S., for some reason, has no “Reply” icon appended to his comment.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      November 6, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

      I do not know why there is no reply’ I have emailed KMD and hope he can fix this

  14. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 6, 2012 - 7:27 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: With my little hatchet I did cut down that cherry tree! I’m only up to Chapter 4, so I am not in a position to comment quite yet. My reading about the Scofield Reference Bible has been from sources other than Canfield.

  15. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 6, 2012 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    You are right, we need one billionaire who will do something besides buy a silly football team or drop a quarter billion on some college stadium to have his name on it.

    If any billionaires are looking for a REAL legacy, this is how you get it. But they’ve got to be willing to challenge the status quo. It can’t just be going to the local elite cultural groups if they are mere copies of the ones in NYC or Hollywood.

    In other words, don’t give us the Austin scene and tell us it is authentic Texas culture.

  16. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 6, 2012 - 9:12 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Agreed. Our side needs just one billionaire (no facetiousness meant!) willing to take this step or other, similar steps. But it does need that first one.

  17. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 6, 2012 - 9:06 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: FYI, following your link, one reads this, excerpted from the argumentum:

    This book will show how, through Masonic and Jesuit infiltration, the Christian Church in North America became a politicized proxy for the International Jewish Conspiracy.

    The quoted sentence is the kind of roll-your-eyes-back talk that harms rather than helps Canfield’s case (i.e., Joseph Canfield, the book’s author). Sure, the Jesuits are now charter subscribers to NWO’ism—who in any branch of the Christian establishment isn’t, alas?—but a century-plus ago, when Cy Scofield and the like-minded were weaving dispensationalism out of whole cloth, the Jesuits were its sworn enemies—indeed, its most articulate enemies.

    I don’t know whether Scofield was a Mason of high degree or of any sort, but on the latter at least I’m willing to bet hard cash. Throughout much of American history, to get ahead in politics, especially for someone whose private life was as messy as Scofield’s evidently was, lodge membership was a prerequisite.

  18. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 6, 2012 - 9:01 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    There must be serious pent-up demand for alternative voices and entertainment. I cannot believe someone in the South can’t see the potential for a regional network. There must be a hunger for it. And I mean locally produced material that wouldn’t insult the audience.

    And it should be mid to high level brow material, not Larry the Cable Guy (nothing wrong with that, but we should have serious dramas, documentaries, talk shows).

    I think there is a fortune to be made providing good quality culture and entertainment to people in “fly-over” country who are ignored.

  19. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 6, 2012 - 8:35 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: It is news to me, too—but then, I never listen to airheads on talk radio (plenty of them hereabouts).

    Norman’s observation may in part explain why even C-SPAN no longer seems to get many calls from people with naughty ideas. Given that 75 percent of its three networks’ guests and/or platform personalities (as, e.g., at book fairs and seminars) are now Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and other nonwhite/non-Christian minorities, one would think that the objectors to this state of affairs would be emailing, tweeting, and phoning like crazy. Perhaps they are.

  20. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 6, 2012 - 5:01 am | Permalink

    @starera: Cue: Democracy: The God That Failed, by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.
    http://is.gd/lmULNy

  21. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 6, 2012 - 3:40 am | Permalink

    @Luke, thanks for your last comment although I’m surprised at your use of cognitive dissonance as a vehicle, the term does no more that create new terminology for a common observation, and as usual the jew Festinger made a pretty penny doing so. Nonetheless the term does indeed fit with much of Western Christianity, much less so with the Orthodox, who understand their jews a little better.

    Re, “Just how are we going to reverse this Cognitive Dissonance pathology within the Christian religion? It took about 70 years to transform it into the weapon of mass racial destruction that is(sic) is today. Might I point out that Whites do not have 70 years to correct this malignant problem? Our time is very short, people. 2040 or so, and bingo, we are a subjugated minority inside what were once our unchallenged native homelands.”

    So true, and I’m glad to see that you recognize that the worst of the phenomenon is fairly recent, as in “it took about 70 years to transform it into the weapon of mass racial destruction,” historically Christianity has been at the forefront in warning the population about jews, take a look at a few Martin Luther quotes on the subject and you may be surprised. Since we apparently agree on this point at least I’d like to discus another aspect of the “fairness of whites” issue, the feminization of the West. It is notable that you mention it taking about 70 years to transform Christianity. The last 70 years has also seen all the old European empires crumble after having survived hundreds of years. In my view it is no mere coincidence that those same 70 years saw the emancipation of women come into full bloom.

    As I post from time to time, universal suffrage and democracy have proved to be a suicide pill for the West and I hope that this thread has not become too old to generate some comments on that issue. I see this as the greatest challenge to “what were once our unchallenged native homelands.”

    Thanks again for your article and the many interesting discussions it has spawned here.

  22. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 5, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: In case you’re not aware of Scofield, probably the best dollar investment ever made by Jews:
    http://is.gd/uuFKdT

  23. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 5, 2012 - 6:34 pm | Permalink

    @ Norman S.:
    Thanks, the time-lag increase is news to me.

    @ anyone who’s interested in 9/11 or the sinister NSA regime it ushered in.Missing Links:
    http://vimeo.com/14802689

  24. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 5, 2012 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Carpenter himself suggests there is nothing to be read into that scene.

    Actually, being one of the more extreme 9-11 apostates, ie. a no-planer, (I’ve got Missing Links to thank for interesting me in that, too), I recognize the reaction you describe. I believe it’s a fear of losing all points of reference that explains why plenty of otherwise logical people prefer not to question what State and the media have served up. I mean that would lead them to a They Live epiphany, and from there on to the Jewish Question, uncomfortable and dark thoughts.

    The Christian Zionists are programmed zombies, I agree. But de-programming them will, if it to occur, come from fellow believers (like Vlad, who’s really got a Herculaen task, I admit). Those who are familiar with the faith, and who talk with empathy. It’s faith, remember, not something rationality can speak to. Criticism from the outside will only harden the defences.

    I’m not sure I agree with your view about the symmetry of time. Fragile systems that took years to construct can come apart quickly. In any case, methodical work is the best approach, targeting only those few who are open-minded and not lily-livered.

  25. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    November 5, 2012 - 12:24 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: I tend to agree with the characterization of the current form of Christianity as having been subverted in many churches. I appreciate the reluctance of white people to embrace what they see as Christianity when the message definately embraces racial suicide, albeit not explicitly. Please remember that there are many independent churches out there, also, full of white people who prefer white services, with white people. I’m working to change the zionism in my own church, I’m confident zionism will ultimately be seen as a very stupid phase in the church.
    Evangelism of the third world is more of a problem. They are conning well meaning white Christian people into believing they ( the mestizos and africans) are converting, when they just like the money and gifts, and the amount of money spent on it is heartbreaking, when white kids in Appalachia are drinking Mountain Dew for breakfast and digging out coal for winter heat from the side of the highway with a pick ax.

  26. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 5, 2012 - 11:09 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    None of which stops them from demanding that we put our children and grandchildren more deeply in debt to assure that they are comfy in their loneliness. After all, the fact that my life has been “lucky” has nothing at all to do with life choices.

  27. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 5, 2012 - 10:13 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    We have fled biology in this age. One’s position on evolution has nothing to with it by the way. Some of the most ardent evolutionists deny some pretty basic biological facts when it comes to human nature. And most average folks had a pretty good idea about human life cycles long ago.

    But, they sold us on the idea that we can be 22 forever, with all the options always on the table. But God or nature has decided otherwise. We have a timetable and it’s not very forgiving. It’s sad to see 38 year old men (I should say 47 year old men) trying desperately to dress and act like an 18 year old (with baseball caps on backward!).

    Feminism offered women one shining ideal: the chance to die alone. On that, they are delivering.

  28. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 5, 2012 - 10:00 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Someday people will look back on our era and see all the suppression of scientific truth as worse than any period in history. Infertility is a huge, quiet tragedy. No one is willing to examine all of the problems linked to STDs, years of hormone treatments via the pill, absurdly early puberty on and on. Add this to willful blindness on gender and racial issues and we live in a new dark age already.

    Throughout the ages people have had pity on the barren woman, now we encourage sterility and call it health care. Any poor woman who is a victim of this can either spend tens of thousands on iffy fertility treatments or suck it up and get on with life. Recently I saw a piece urging women to consider freezing their eggs while young – just in case. Believe it or not, this fraud actually concerns me more than 9/11!

  29. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 5, 2012 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    @Luke:

    Your smart aleck retorts reek of … the left side of the political spectrum …

    This is the best you can do?!

    With these words you prove you are deaf and blind. Why not do your bit for the environment by becoming mute, too?

  30. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 5, 2012 - 9:14 am | Permalink

    I would like to advance a parallel idea to the “Whites are just too moral and fair” argument (which may be true in some sense and make many gullible).

    The other argument is that Whites have some strongly immoral people among them who show no loyalty to Whites and border on sociopathic behavior toward other Whites. They don’t care about them, they just use them, and sell them out when profitable. This may apply to a good number of our White professors, politicians and “moral” leaders.

    Also, the whole concept of being loyal to your own people has been drummed out of Whites from Kindergarten. Is this truly being too moral?

    I think it’s just the opposite. I think both strains may be working within Whites: a somewhat gullible tendency to be too naive; and a significant number of traitors, free riders and sociopaths who don’t care about the fate of Whites.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      November 5, 2012 - 9:51 am | Permalink

      Very True, It’s easy to blame Jews for our problems but we must also take responsibility,

  31. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 5, 2012 - 8:38 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: I thoroughly enjoyed that outstanding John Carpenter movie, but that fight scene tended to turn my stomach. Why any sane white man would be dumb enough to shed his own blood in order to help wake up a black guy is clearly an unrealistic portrayal of healthy white behavior.

    Now, if they decide to do a remake – and cast Chrissy ‘I sure hate being White’ Matthews in the lead role, maybe it would be believable.

  32. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    November 5, 2012 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Alice, as always you make a great point. I feel sorry for any couple that wants their own children and can’t have them. Many, of course, adopt white children and find love and happiness. The ones that adopt dogs and think of them as grandchildren, and expect me to think it is cute, probably aren’t willing to do the work needed to help their own children raise their own grandchildren.

  33. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 5, 2012 - 8:24 am | Permalink

    @starera: There is medical term that is relatively ‘new’ to our common language and which I had not previously heard of, until a few years after the 9-11 attacks on America. This new medical term, I believe, applies to a wide range of subjects – in addition to 9-11. Religious belief and convictions are clearly included within this range of subject areas.

    The medical term to which I refer is ‘Cognitive Dissonance’.

    Permit me to share an official definition of this condition, before I proceed with my point.

    [ begin quote ]
    cognitive dissonance
    noun (Concise Encyclopedia)

    Mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. The concept was introduced by the psychologist Leon Festinger (1919–89) in the late 1950s. He and later researchers showed that, when confronted with challenging new information, most people seek to preserve their current understanding of the world by rejecting, explaining away, or avoiding the new information or by convincing themselves that no conflict really exists. Cognitive dissonance is nonetheless considered an explanation for attitude change. [ end of quote ]

    The reason I cite this particular aberrant form of human psychological behavior is because, like it or not, the current form of ‘Christianity’ is one that has been very cleverly and diabolically transformed over the last 70 odd years and today, the vast majority of Whites who are practicing ‘Christians’ and who are reasonably passionate thumpers of their bibles, have been indoctrinated with the Cultural Marxist subverted version of the Christian religion.

    This subverted version basically teaches that (a) jews deserve to have their toes licked and (b) racial pride, racial awareness, racial loyalty and racial solidarity and any desire to ensure that your race survives and is able to preserve itself – is ‘evil’, but this evil tag is to only be assigned to White European descended people and to no others. There are other elements to this subverted version of Christianity, but these two offer a good summary.

    Thus, when a White Nationalist or someone with a pro-White point of view comes along, and tries to reach these brainwashed and indoctrinated Christians – the ideas and concepts that we attempt to share with them, regardless of the mountains of scientific and historically proven evidence that supports our positions and which any reasonably intelligent and open-minded White listener would have to acknowledge as being worthwhile and deserving of their consideration, the reaction that we almost always get is one of immediate rejection of our ideas. The programming that this subverted form of Christianity has installed inside these people is just too deep and too strong. So, let’s review:

    “when confronted with challenging new information, most people seek to preserve their current understanding of the world by rejecting, explaining away, or avoiding the new information or by convincing themselves that no conflict really exists. ”

    I can personally attest to the incredible power of this ‘Cognitive Dissonance’ form of psychopathy, because I’ve seen it up close and personal. Here is how: During the years that followed the 9-11 terrorist strike on America, as contradictory evidence began to be uncovered that clearly indicated that the ‘official story’ we were told was nothing more than a steaming pile of fly-covered manure, many patriotic researchers and inquisitive citizens started putting together books and video documentaries which documented their findings. Perhaps the single best 9-11 video documentary ever made was the one by Mike Delaney and which was titled: 9-11 Missing Links. I downloaded that documentary, and made dozens and dozens of DVD copies of it – and I began to give them away to people I knew, with a strong recommendation for them to watch the DVD and let me know their reaction. I continue to do this, as I have a big box full of these DVDs and make sure I always have a healthy supply of them on hand.

    Here’s my point. An alarming percentage of people who I give these DVDs to, when asked some time later, will confess that they never got around to watching the DVD. Their excuse will usually be that they’ve been ‘too busy’, and some will sheepishly promise that they will eventually find time and watch the video. I sense that most of these kinds of people are not being honest with me – and that they are reluctant to watch a DVD about 9-11 because they have a sense of unease about the idea that their government would deliberately lie to them. Others, a smaller percentage, who have watched the 9-11 Missing Links DVD – will
    initially express some indications of having their eyes opened, but I’ve run across these people a few months later, and if the subject of 9-11 and the phony global war on terror comes up – I have been amazed to discover that these people have reverted back to believing the official pile of ripe manure about 19 Arabs with goat poop stained toenails pulling off 9-11. In essence, their truth injection wore off. Perhaps ‘truth’ is similar to Vitamin C, and one can lose it when they urinate, which means they need a replenishment from time to time?

    Sarcasm aside, this is how powerful this ‘Cognitive Dissonance’ disease is, folks. And, so – I have to once again return to the present subverted form of Christianity that has been responsible for programming millions of practicing White Christians to not only embrace their own racial and cultural genocide and death sentence, but to also think that they are getting brownie points with their jewish God if they actively work to help bring about that racial genocide – and this includes their incredible condemnation of those of us in the racially healthy White European community.

    Just how are we going to reverse this Cognitive Dissonance pathology within the Christian religion? It took about 70 years to transform it into the weapon of mass racial destruction that is is today. Might I point out that Whites do not have 70 years to correct this malignant problem? Our time is very short, people. 2040 or so, and bingo, we are a subjugated minority inside what were once our unchallenged native homelands.

    • norman S's Gravatar norman S
      November 5, 2012 - 8:45 am | Permalink

      While Cognitive dissonance about 911 is true, the main reason is the total blackout of any discussion of conspiracy in the media and talk radio. It is the main reason the 8 second delay was increased to 40. If more people were exposed to the truth there would be less C.D,

  34. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 5, 2012 - 7:25 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Thanks for confirming what I had suspected.

    Your smart aleck retorts reek of the very same kind of intellectual narcissism that is so obnoxiously common among the left side of the political spectrum, and the harder to the left a particular wise-acre is, the more obnoxious, condescending and haughty their attitude seems to get.

    Venture back over to the Huffington website where you belong, pal.

  35. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 5, 2012 - 6:02 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Far too many woman have been led to believe that fertility lasts into the fifties

    Very true. I worked with a woman who was shocked when she suddenly couldn’t have any babies at the age of 41. It happened to her young. She had never married, never had kids. She was a typical liberal feminist Democrat, however I suspect she still thought she had time.

  36. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 5, 2012 - 2:07 am | Permalink

    The Rushton/Suzuki debate I watched on two successive nights as an anger management strategy. (My, what a big head Suzuki actually has under his big hair, and how self-conscious he started to look when Rushton suggested some head-measuring experiments to convince the sceptics).

    Now I’m going to really test the spleen and watch Taylor get flayed.

  37. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 10:51 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Really, how can you not love men! You are all quite mad but in a really magnificent way! Thanks for the giggle!

  38. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    November 4, 2012 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

    @fender: You are definitely right about White’s sense of ‘moral fanaticism’. This could also be described as a strong sense of moral conformity, or peer group approval. They want the thrill of the ‘band wagon effect’, along with the blessings of the crowd. Rationalizing what is “good” is also part of the oft delusional White mindset.

  39. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 4, 2012 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Apology accepted. I thought you made a little mistake. No problem.

  40. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 4, 2012 - 9:07 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:The boring, protracted fight scene in They Live speaks to the difficulty of correcting the visual impairment.

    • norm741's Gravatar norm741
      November 5, 2012 - 7:57 am | Permalink

      Curious, Have you seen the Lizard and the Jews with David Icke?

  41. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 4, 2012 - 7:59 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Unless Alice Teller is mistaken in her comment on your meaning, and I don’t believe she is, I owe you, Mr. Ryckaert, an abject apology for writing as I did and, what is worse, writing in anger. I do so apologize and beg your pardon.

    If I can so easily betray my own standards and principles, I can hardly serve any useful purpose hereabouts. I wish you well, Mr. Ryckaert, as I do everyone else working to save our people from the extinction to which their seemingly willing blindness has fated them.

  42. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 4, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

    It would be naive to imagine any authoritative institution could remain hermetically sealed off from the broader political climate. Gramsci and the Fabians were the real victors of the 20th century, not the Lenins or the Castros.

  43. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    November 4, 2012 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Considering what happened with some of the posters after I suggested going to neutral for awhile, only made me realize that I never really heeded Goethe’s advice that, “Every thought provokes its opposite”!

  44. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 4, 2012 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    @Luke, thanks for your last comment but with all due respect I think that you are missing my point, I don’t dispute in general any of your observations regarding current media and culture-driven Christianity. My objection was to your “I think its going to have to require a de-Christianizing of our people,” that is where we disagree and that is where your views coincide with that of our enemies.

    Google Antonio Gramsci sometime and you will see the marxist/jew viewpoint on Christianity, they see it as their biggest obstacle, as you apparently do also. I invited you to reflect upon that previously and I do so again.

    Btw, I have carried on this argument with you not to convert you, although I’d love to, but to point out the practical consequences of placing white nationalism in conflict with Christianity. To do so simply further marginalizes white nationalism while accomplishing nothing.

  45. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 5:11 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Sorry, again. find it in my heart

  46. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:
    My guess is that the poor woman you mention did not have the option of bearing her own children. Far too many woman have been led to believe that fertility lasts into the fifties. I can’t find it in my to condemn her. I have a much greater objection to my poor pathetic friends and acquaintances who cheerfully post pictures of some cute little dog and refer to it as their grandbaby! Do you know they let those women vote?

  47. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 4:56 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:
    You disappoint me, Luke. Your comment to Pierre was not only unworthy of you it was entirely inaccurate. You have intelligence, energy, passion, and leadership qualities. If you will discipline yourself you have the qualities needed to help your people. Don’t waste your gifts on petty quarrels or the old blame game. Find a way to help your people see the light. Find the best in us and yourself.

  48. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    November 4, 2012 - 4:44 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: You are indeed correct, sir. I agree with the litany of symptoms mentioned by Luke, many things in the church need correcting. I can see how focusing on these weaknesses gives someone an excuse not to go to church if they desire to stay in and sleep.
    However, I believe Christianity is perfectly compatible with white nationalism and racial separatism, rejecting Zionism, rejecting affirmative action, rejecting immigration of parasites, and restoring a loving Patriarchy. We do need great intellectuals to make the case for that, and we need to kick out the false prophets who teach the incorrect doctrines that in the church are reflections of our sick society, not the cause of it.
    I myself did not know what to do, when at a recent church function, a perfectly normal looking white couple who must have adopted a couple of little black kids, came over to my little section of the carnival, where I was running a game with my white children dutifully helping dad, and the couple went through the motions of oowing and aahhing as the little black boy and black girl tried to pin the tail on the donkey and win some silly prize. I particularly noticed the sad, longing look in the mother’s eyes, as she tried to smile with motherly love as she took a picture, but seemed so forlorn and empty. I wanted to tell her she needed her own children, white children, to feel a connection and a sense of purpose. That no honest black person would expect her to show the love for little black kids that the natural black mother should, and sometimes does. While many a sacrificial adoptive parent has lovingly raised and provided for adopted kids, and truly even loved them, there is simply no replacement for the motherly and fatherly bond, no more meaningful sacrifice on earth. Nothing and no one will ever build a great society without that foundation. I couldn’t help that lady see the error of her ways, though. As Alice said, she was deceived, and trapped, and yet true to her Aryan genes, striving to do her best under the circumstances. The cruel twist of fate is that the race she has betrayed will not be able to save her someday when she needs us. I felt that nothing I could have said would help her.
    If a white nationalist walked in and saw them, I could see how that would turn him off. It made me quite sad. However, surrounding them were mostly good white parents, lovingly participating with their white children. We need to strive to get church right for them.

  49. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 4:40 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Oh dear, I must be expressing myself badly. No, I never imagined you would land in that camp. As a product of a mixed Catholic and Protestant marriage, I have spend a lot of time weighing the pros and cons of each. Both have made grievous errors but the piece I linked to demonstrates, for me, at least, the perils of each man his own pope. We now seem to live in a world where God is defined as love. Love evidently means never hurting anyone’s feeling or suggesting that anyone override their inclinations. I find it odd that those who most rail against Catholicism are really objecting to the Protestant or cafeteria Catholics so prevalent today.

    By the way, I doubt that Franklin’s correction of Luke’s grammar was of form of ingratiation.

  50. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 4, 2012 - 3:03 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Apropos the link, you can’t imagine, surely, at this late date that I have any sympathy with or for these people? Even were they millions rather than … what? twenty or thirty … I would view them with pity or contempt or both and hope for their reformation. Besides, as fewer and fewer people seem to know or recall, being a Catholic (indeed, a Christian of any persuasion) is not like being a Jew. It’s not a matter of blood or descent or whatever. It is first and foremost a matter of the will—of willing to conform one’s mind and heart to the irreformable Faith handed down from the Apostles. People like these, people an antagonistic and contemptuous press gleefully calls Catholics or Catholic dissidents, are not the former and not adjectivally the latter.

    As to the main point of your comment, you are undoubtedly correct. Keep up your good work.

  51. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 4, 2012 - 3:01 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Since what seems to have been your primary aim—ingratiating yourself with Luke—isn’t precisely a Herculean task, you might have foregone the public act of subservience to him. Simple flattery would have turned the trick.

  52. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 4, 2012 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: You were boxing above your weight, and you may have fooled some folks into thinking that you had the goods. You don’t, and it wasn’t difficult to demonstrate it. The most worth noting about your comment is that you resisted revealing your true colors for fully twenty-four hours.

    Thanks for not calling me “brother.”

  53. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    November 4, 2012 - 12:44 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    My comment here is for Fender and/or anyone else who reads it.

    Even at a very young age, I (think I) had an innate drive to be good, to please others, to do the right thing.

    On a somewhat related note, I thought of something just now.

    Is it possible that White people in general are capable of feeling more guilt than some (or all) non-Whites groups?

    I don’t know, which is why I made it into a question.

    @Trenchant:

    “Stereotypes are a necessary tool for survival, in a world of imperfect knowledge.”

    That sounds like a good quote.

    I saved it.

  54. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    November 4, 2012 - 12:40 pm | Permalink

    “Luke

    November 4, 2012 – 11:55 am | Permalink

    @starera: The Political Cesspool radio crew, primarily Bill Rollins and Keith Alexander, have been recently expounding on the enormous decline in church attendance by White European people and their mutual assessment (which I find myself wanting to agree with) is that the Cultural Marxist takeover and subsequent jewish liberalism that is now being puked from the pulpit is the reason our people are being driven away.

    There is also the general eradication of moral standards, brought along with a decline in the stability of the traditional White family structure, and promotion of moral relativism that oozes out of nearly every mainstream media outlet – that I feel are also largely to blame for the decline in church attendance.”

    Good point.

  55. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 4, 2012 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    @Luke:
    his

  56. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 4, 2012 - 11:55 am | Permalink

    @starera: The Political Cesspool radio crew, primarily Bill Rollins and Keith Alexander, have been recently expounding on the enormous decline in church attendance by White European people and their mutual assessment (which I find myself wanting to agree with) is that the Cultural Marxist takeover and subsequent jewish liberalism that is now being puked from the pulpit is the reason our people are being driven away.

    There is also the general eradication of moral standards, brought along with a decline in the stability of the traditional White family structure, and promotion of moral relativism that oozes out of nearly every mainstream media outlet – that I feel are also largely to blame for the decline in church attendance.

  57. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 4, 2012 - 11:47 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: May I ask a question?

    Is there a particular brand of shovel that trolls and liberals favor over all others, when they visit pro-white websites and waste everyone’s time shoveling their mental manure?

    I’m reminded of a funny line that the old Southern comedian Brother Dave Gardner once said about how he defined liberals.

    It went something like this: “A liberal is someone who is educated beyond their capacity.”.

  58. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 9:31 am | Permalink

    The tide is turning – even the Danes are asking questions, not the right questions yet but that will come.
    http://www.d-intl.com/articles/denmark/2012-11-01/danish-public-schools-facing-collapse

  59. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 8:58 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Good points, as always, Jason. I understand all the anger expressed here. However, we are in peril of falling into the most dangerous pit of all, paralyzed bitterness. We have lost our own conception of ourselves as leaders. The more we announce that whites are hopelessly lost, the more we condemn them to oblivion. We not only want whites to wake up, we demand that they do so in exactly the same words we use for precisely the same reasons.

    If we really liked, even loved, our own we would accept the sad truth that the people we love have been deceived and find a way to lead them to the truth. It is not even really hard unless one insists that naming the Jew is our primary task. The liberal system we have adopted is failing – not just white folks – it is failing everyone. By any sensible measure, education, health, wealth, thriving families, even simple contentment – it is failing. Once we help people see this truth they will eventually learn about the forces and group behind this failure. Churches are empty, crime scares everyone, taxes are oppressive, the world is more dangerous, fewer children can aspire to a life as good as their parents had. Or we can sit back, watch the ongoing decline and console ourselves that we were among the elite who saw the danger but were impotent to do anything but rail against the idiots who permitted this to happen. Really, it is a position unworthy of white men.

  60. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 4, 2012 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    I rest my case. It is clear for all the world how YOU turned out – an open and unapologetic libertarian!

  61. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 4, 2012 - 4:14 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Is there anyone here, anyone at all, who actually likes white people? Perhaps we all want to denounce that which has most disappointed us?

    Well that is the question, isn’t it? It’s hard to build a pro-White movement with advocates who seem to have such contempt for them! But of course, most are deeply disappointed in Whites. Many feel let down by the recent generations who have come before them.

    And it is infuriating to be scorned and rejected by the very people you are trying to save (which is often the case for anyone who is “too” stridently pro-White). All these things take a toll.

    But, I am afraid your question suggests a deeper problem. Some subset of the posters are not particularly pro-White; some are simply anti-Jewish. This isn’t exactly the same thing.

    I hope in the future the site can talk more about what has been right about Whites. That which has made us glorious, brilliant and heroic. And I don’t mean just the few elites among us, but the average White man and woman, from the early Aryans who tamed horses long ago (and were the first cowboys), to the builders of Persia, Rome, Egypt, the magnificent kingdoms of the Middle Ages, all the way through to our conquest of space. This is awe inspiring material spanning thousands of years.

    I find the White Marxists Nationalists off track as well. I know some corporations have done bad things in the past (as all human organizations have), but I find much in commerce and industry heroic. The oil industry is a multi-trillion dollar a year industry that has immeasurably raised the stand of living of everyone on earth. It is the work of millions of engineers, accountants, oil field workers, operators, chemical plant workers, pipeline logisticians and all the rest. All of it literally impossible without White men and women.

    The same is true of the computer industry. The fact that many of these jobs have been lost to Asians who are good at problem solving and repetitive tasks, in no way diminishes the crucial need for Whites to make it all work. This should be celebrated.

    Think of all the great White explorers. Not just the big names we know, but their crews as well. Think of the pioneers who have spanned out across the globe starting many thousands of years ago to wind up in North America, Australia and New Zealand – well pretty much everywhere. It’s a great story that we never hear these days.

    So yes, I would encourage TOO and other sites to focus more on the great things Whites have done. Not just the few great names of the past, but the great deeds of regular Whites who made it all possible.

  62. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    November 4, 2012 - 1:08 am | Permalink

    Pierre de Craon

    “November 3, 2012- 2:22 pm | Permalink

    @Bigmo:

    From the 9th century to the 13th century the Arabs and Muslims were more advanced than the West.

    Sir: You speak of the framing of the immigration issue as a trap. I entirely agree with you. An even bigger trap, however, is the one emblematized by the sentence quoted above. It signals acceptance of the propaganda of the Tribal establishment that was being mixed and poured as far back as the thirties and became as solid as steel-reinforced concrete around 1960.

    Several hours of research, keyed on such words as Byzantium, Constantinople, Paris, Bologna, romanesque, Gothic, Aachen, edda, longboat, longbow, Greek fire, Chrétien de Troyes, Hildebrand, and Iona, should disabuse you of received ideas. Happy reading! ”

    I agree with you. You talked about prior Western civilizations, that is true. You had the reeks and Romans but you also had the Egyptians and Mesopotamian and Persian. But I think this is a trap that White nationalism falls into. The continous need to try to over play Western civilization and downplay others is an exhaustive experience. It always seems that Whites need a reason to try to justify defending their culture either by emphasizing how great their civilization is compared to others or how dangerous immigration is to Western societies. These are very hard concepts to defend intellectually. Its an absolutist argument.

  63. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 4, 2012 - 1:07 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:Of Little Black Sambo, one of my favourite earliest reads, nothing remains. On the other hand, I wouldn’t have even known what ghee was in my youth, and yet now there is a good variety on the local shelves. I’m old enough to have had a black stuffed golliwog, long before they got attitude. That’s a Toy Story that’s not going to receive the Pixar treatment.

  64. fender's Gravatar fender
    November 4, 2012 - 12:39 am | Permalink

    Here’s an idea: what if our problem is not our sense of fairness or individualism or egalitarianism, but moral fanaticism?

    This is something I’ve been thinking about lately: the idea that Whites are moral fanatics. Moreso than other races, we desire to be “good” no matter what the consequences are.

    I don’t think our fairness, individualism, or egalitarianism explain the way so many Whites have embraced suicical multiculturalism the way we have.

    When American Whites were told that it was “good” to conquer North America in the name of Manifest Destiny and displace the Indians it was never questioned. When Whites were told that it was “good” to consider blacks their equals, it too was never questioned.

    So, our moral fanaticism can be either positive or negative. Right now it’s negative, as those who define “good” (the jews) define it so that it harms Whites. But if “good” was to be redefined by WN’s, Whites would embrace White Nationalism and race realism wholeheartedly.

    National Socialism: Germany went from being the most Marxist, communistic nation in Western Europe to the most Nationalistic in the blink of an eye. That’s because Der Mustache out-jewed the jews in terms of propaganda and moralizing. In 1932 National Socialism was “good” and communism was evil.

    Spouting facts to the masses like Jared Taylor does won’t do anything. Whites, unfortunately, don’t care about cold, objective facts. They care about being “good.” WN’s need to convince Whites that the White/European race is good, and needs to be defended and preserved. Things like immigration and multiculturalism must be seen as evil. Then you’ll start to see change for the better.

  65. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 4, 2012 - 12:17 am | Permalink

    The development of Whites has been fairly recent, probably after the 16 th centiry, It was hoever the industrial revolution that changed things. These however are very recent developments.

    The uniqueness of Whites go back far before the 16th century, by many thousands of years. The Indo-Europeans were the first to invent the wheel, sometime around 6,000 years ago. They also were the first to domesticate cows around 10,000 years ago.

    A very few non-White civilizations manage to almost reach White levels on occasion, always with the help of Whites (Japan for example). We don’t have to argue this point with others, but as a matter of fact, it is true.

  66. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 3, 2012 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    There you go again, insisting on both truth and logic. In the redefinition of reality stereotypes are merely another legacy of slavery and prejudice. Furthermore, anyone who thinks the way you do will commit the worst evil of the modern world, hurting someone’s feelings. The fact that adhering to this will require me to be derelict as a parent never arises.

  67. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 11:01 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:I can understand opposition to slavery, but prejudice towards groups can be a legitimate self-defence mechanism. I may not wish to live in Crown Heights not because of some ungrounded hatred towards individuals, but because of the real probabilistic danger I face by increasing my interactions or contact with large numbers of those groups. Stereotypes are a necessary tool for survival, in a world of imperfect knowledge.

    Donovan had a great TOO article about the Liquid Paper-ing of the Grimm’s The Jew in the Brambles tale; “hurtful” stereotypes in popular culture that served to warn of peril are now gone.

  68. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 3, 2012 - 10:38 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    I truly fear that our opponents have done such a marvelous job that many here have no comprehension of the distinctions you make so well. We remember when all churches had some respect for truth and intellectual honesty. I am very drawn to many of the aspects of protestantism, some that I wonder if you have much feel for. That said, this link resolves, in my mind at least, the dangerous levels even good men can sink to if they are seduced into believing that they are always capable of discerning God’s will.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/wash-state-catholics-break-with-bishops-back-same-sex-marriage-84091/

  69. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    November 3, 2012 - 10:03 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:
    Yes, it serves fire water.

  70. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 3, 2012 - 9:11 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    My experience is that in the South. preachers run in terror from the history of justification of both slavery and antisemitism by use of the Bible. These good men still want to save souls if possible, but believe even more in teaching their people to thrive and prosper under the new regime. That includes an artificial elevation of lessor goods, such as hating no one, with higher goods, such as loving Truth. We are an embattled people and NO ONE in America wants to hear about discipline or self-restraint except in the quest of a slim waistline.

  71. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Nothing says that a hand can’t be raised to fend off a slap, or that ducking and weaving is illegitimate!

    Have you found no one on your wavelength in your congregation, or is there little scope for probing around the Jewish Question?

  72. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 8:30 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Investing in the Third World occurs today in the absence of colonialism. Naturally, because of the mean short time horizon and lack of organization skill, projects are deemed high risk and self-select for early pay-off. Sovereign risk is something stockholders are perfectly acquainted with.

  73. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 8:13 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows: Voting just encourages them!

  74. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 8:06 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: So when the Jews are more rational, they get to rule over the savages, like us? And that’s OK.

  75. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 8:03 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: “Rational” is whatever Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum says! (A subject defining “objective” should suffice to show what a crock she was pushing).

    You’ve cast the IP debate wrongly. Communism is expecting me to pay for the legal infrastructure to protect “your” idea. I don’t have any right to enter your brain and so if you keep your mouth shut, the idea stays yours. If you get drunk at the bar and confide your brainwave to me, then it’s your fault if I make use of that inspiration. You’ve still got the idea in your head, but now it’s in mine as well, and you can’t have it back.

    How did you learn if it weren’t for endless copying and emulation of others?

    Here’s one guy I wouldn’t be emulating, bad for the blood pressure.

  76. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 3, 2012 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    @Luke, re your

    “@Bobby: I’d like to agree with you, on principle. But, Christianity – or, more accurately, the vast majority of mainstream ‘Christian Church Leaders’ have not gone ‘neutral’ on the issue of White racial survival.”

    Yes, the distinction between “Christianity” and “mainstream Christian Church Leaders” is the key.
    In my view your error is in equating the two; don’t think that the anti-white propaganda pushed by politicians masquerading as preachers represents Christianity, it does not.

  77. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    November 3, 2012 - 6:04 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Luke, I entirely agree with you on the damage the churches are doing on this issue. I called for going to neutral, not as a policy, but simply to allow a little more debate. I realize it’s very late in the day. My main concern on completely dropping Christianity, is that it has been a blessing as well as a curse, in many ways. I have thought about this issue, and I tend to agree with those who argue that it’s mainly these crazy Evangelical preachers, the Catholic hierarchy, the Protestant and Baptist preachers, AND NOT, most of the congregations that are the problem. The Catholic Church, for example, has often amended or changed its policies when there was sufficient pressure from Catholics. I know this is true of Protestants as well.

    When Christian churches, allow various pressure groups, like the Jewish organizations, to constantly screw with their traditions, we get what we deserved, because we have allowed outsiders to interfere with a part of our culture. There are millions of Christians and just as many believe or worship their religion in various degrees. For example, some go to church religiously, every week, some stop by everday, whereas others are Easter bunnies and Santa Clauses, as a Catholic priest who gave mass on Easter once quipped. My point is, Christianity has been treated horribly by Christians. It isn’t even neccessary to blame outsiders, when Christians have treated their faith so cavilierly, as if it meant nothing at all. Now the enemies of Christians are acutely aware of this attitude. And many of them consequently feel not only strengthened in theier own faith because of this attitude of Christians, but also see it as an opportunity to attack Christianity and Christians, which they often see as simply equal to white people. So they feel free to attack Christmas trees, and nativity scenes, and other symbols, I said symbols, of a culture that has existed for two-thousand years!! Think of the outrageousness of this affrontary!! Look how Moslems, Jews, and believers in other religions react when their culture of faith is attacked!! I remember how the so-called Christian, George Bush, agreed to disallow Christmas trees and bibles as a condition of allowing our troops to have a base in Saudi Arabia. It’s the leaders, and somewhat less, the so called believers, that have done in Christianity, much more than Christianities enemies, who couldn’t have gotten to square one, if American Christians hadn’t let them!! Instead so many of these stupid American so-called Christians, debate among themselves as to whether a Christmas tree is really part of Christianity, and other stupid and useless arguments that only weaken Christianity. Again, much of it is the fault of some of these preachers. Your’e damned straight a Christmas Tree is part of the culture of Christianity!! People who debate these things that divide and denigrate this culture, would be better off admitting their cowardice in not defending it, rather than submitting to their enemies wishes, in denigrating it!! When I think of the brave souls that have fearlessly given or risked their lives exactly because of what Christ taught, (again, to me it’s the truth of the whole idea that’s important, because too often what he actually taught, isn’t what’s being taught it’s leaves me with total admiration.

  78. November 3, 2012 - 5:54 pm | Permalink

    @Jan L: Simon Sheppard was released from prison, or “gaol” as they call it over there, last year. Farrell had a lighter sentence and might’ve gotten out earlier; I say “might’ve” because he did get out earlier but apparently violated the terms of his parole by accessing the Internet in a public library.

  79. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 3, 2012 - 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Like it our not, Christianity is the fundamental unifying force of Western culture

    That’s what Aristotle said.

  80. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    November 3, 2012 - 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Well, I’ve been working very hard lately toward bringing my bit. Hope the rest of you have been. Don’t forget to vote with head not heart on Tuesday.

  81. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    November 3, 2012 - 5:15 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    You often happen to be right, and this is not an exception.

    Western history started much earlier than the 9th century. If we take the Greeks (ancient Greeks, at least the Greek aristocracy were of a somewhat different racial extraction, e.g. we know that Alexander had blond hair, although probably they weren’t outright Nordics), they were obviously more developed than or at least as developed as anybody else anywhere in any field of human development (literature, philosophy, architecture, sculpture, etc.), being the most developed civilization on the planet at the time. The same thing goes for the Roman Empire, which was still largely a European empire, run by Europeans. Northern Europe was less developed than Southern Europe at the time, but “developed” is hard to define: while architecture was less developed, it was more difficult to survive in the North, and after they managed to breed plants better suited to Northern European climates the difference largely disappeared by the Middle Ages.

    While recently many historians question if there was any serious drop in technological levels after the fall of the Roman Empire (although architecture and many arts did decline, agricultural methods actually improved, as did weapons and a few other things, and literacy now appears to have been less widespread in the Antiquity, so there was no space for a lot of decline there either), it is certain that by the High Middle Ages (10-13th centuries) Europe reached very high levels in any area of human achievement – European warriors had superior armor and at least as good swords as the Arabs (or more properly Kurds, Turks, etc.) who fought them during the Crusades. It was not an accident that in spite of the vastly more difficult supply situation European armies managed to conquer and keep the Holy Land for almost two centuries.

    BTW I think on a level it’s all irrelevant. Even if we were the worst people on Earth, with no achievements at all, and even if all we did was murder others throughout our history, we would still have the right to organize ourselves to protect our interests. But since it happens to be the case that we created the most important civilizations of all times, we have all the more right to do so.

  82. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 3, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    ps Libertarianism is trash when compared to Objectivism. (See Libertarianism: The Perversion of Liberty by jew Peter Schwartz

    In the nineteenth century libertarianism meant voluntary communism. No wonder some of them oppose IP (intellectual property). All belongs to the group. . .

  83. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 3, 2012 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Context, context, and more context. There is a difference between libertarianism and (jewish) Objectivism. L. says society should be voluntary, O. says society should be rational. O. says voluntary needed to implement reason. Rights in O. presuppose the existence of reason. No reason, no rights. The more conscious shall rule over the less conscious. The project should proceed with or without the savages’ consent.

  84. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 3, 2012 - 2:32 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Very well said!

    Forgive me if I seem to be putting words in your mouth, but if, as you say, you were agreeing with the accuracy of Luke’s observations, I am pretty certain it was at the most with the catalog of symptoms, not the diagnosis nor the underlying presumption of what constitutes a healthy organism, and clearly not the prescription.

  85. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 3, 2012 - 2:22 pm | Permalink

    @Bigmo:

    From the 9th century to the 13th century the Arabs and Muslims were more advanced than the West.

    Sir: You speak of the framing of the immigration issue as a trap. I entirely agree with you. An even bigger trap, however, is the one emblematized by the sentence quoted above. It signals acceptance of the propaganda of the Tribal establishment that was being mixed and poured as far back as the thirties and became as solid as steel-reinforced concrete around 1960.

    Several hours of research, keyed on such words as Byzantium, Constantinople, Paris, Bologna, romanesque, Gothic, Aachen, edda, longboat, longbow, Greek fire, Chrétien de Troyes, Hildebrand, and Iona, should disabuse you of received ideas. Happy reading!

  86. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    November 3, 2012 - 2:17 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Luke, your criticisms of mainline Christian churches are wholly accurate in this current day and age. I’m sure I would be kicked out of my church, or ex-communicated if we Baptists actually did that, for stating my racial beliefs, which at one time in the South were supported in the pulpit.
    I think the problem in some ways is an understanding that Baptists churches are independent, and only have to follow our own conscience, but our preachers are scared of losing their congregations if they started to preach racial solidarity.
    I believe we have to change things back to truer doctrine by chasing Zionism out of the church, which I attempt to do on a regular basis. Worshipping the jews is completely incompatible with Christianity, but many people in church are afraid to consider it right now. The reason is that church is really not about politics, but eternity. Many a preacher, though, wishes to be loved and worshipped himself, rather than deflecting the love and worship towards Christ. The bible explicitly warns against false prophets, which is what any man preaching equality of ability is.
    We have too many weak willed weasels who think they understand Christianity, who follow like sheep to the slaughter some idiot preacher that everyone is afraid to confront (not me, but the preacher at my church is smart enough to avoid discussing theology with me these days) as a false prophet, or at least a misguided one.
    We need a tougher Christianity, led by real men who aren’t afraid of the PC police state we live in, who may turn the other cheek when slapped, but slay the infidels with the jawbone of an ass when attacked.

  87. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    November 3, 2012 - 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Jason Speaks”:I don’t subscribe to egalitarianism. All groups are not equal Blacks and browns have serious deficits in terms of abstract thinking, and this affects things such as ability to govern. Brown people are not just Whites who happen to be painted a different color; they are a sub-population of humans with different abilities and traits. And so far, none of them have come close to what Whites can do.

    I accept these differences among humans. It isn’t popular to say today and it isn’t the issue for our generation, but I find it hard to believe that if Whites regain their societies, and go on to master space, that entire continents on earth will be left in the Stone Age under the complete control of Stone Age people. ”

    That depends on how you interpret White advancement, Whites used to live in stone age and had authoritarian societies where witches were burnt and dictators rules and even lkived in caves once. The development of Whites has been fairly recent, probably after the 16 th centiry, It was hoever the industrial revolution that changed things. These however are very recent developments. From the 9th century to the 13 century the Arabs and Muslims were more advanced than the West. These arguments you present can never be mainstream since its not supported by history.

    You also present hypothetical questions like a White living in Black neighborhood versus a Black living in a White one. That all depends on the situation. These are all hard sell. Questions will be raised as to why it can be dangerous to live in Black neighborhoods, you might attribute that to biology and genetic traits, someone else will attribute it to Black historic experiences in America. Being stone age does not necessarily mean much since we are seeing a rise in China and India and Brazil at a time where Eurpean economies are declining. The power center is shifting to the East.

    The problem here is Whites continuously have to justify their Nationalism by having some elements of anti non White argument either in crime, development or behaviour. A very exhaustive experience. The same with immigration issue, there is always the need to present immigration as bad or a threat or the immigrants as violent, immoral or different. This is a trap. Why should there be a reason to defend ones culture?

  88. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 3, 2012 - 11:48 am | Permalink

    … I am referring to the automatic, heel-clicking, robotic reaction that we tend to see coming from these hard core bible thumpers who are apparently so brainwashed by their embrace of Christianity that they react negatively to any criticism whatsoever, however so slight, of their religion or of their Church.

    The only current commenters who might even remotely be describable in these terms are Tom and dixie, who are frequently numbered among the quoted gentleman’s quondam friends and allies. Closer matches in stylistic terms are Tyron Parsons and several of his disciples and converts, such as anita. The fatal flaw there, however, is that none of these latter are Christians—that is, believers in a trinitarian deity and the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth—their so-called Christian Identity beliefs being a fantasy offshoot of faux prehistory, history, and anthropology rather than faux or actual religion.

    Put otherwise, the quoted sentence is empty assertion, also known as hot air. Acceptance of this analysis, needless to say, casts a rather less flattering light on the remainder of the comment in question, especially its last three sentences,

    … it is my assertion that it requires a cool and objective head to listen to criticism, weigh the facts and evidence that is offered, and then evaluate whether the criticism is both warranted and valid.
    In this case, my facts and evidence are solid and indisputable.
    Which means I stand on firm ground and they are knee deep in quicksand.

    which now read rather more like bluster than like the coolly deductive passage from major premise through minor premise to conclusion that its author wishes Alice Teller and other readers to view it as. In other words, what we are meant to take for a syllogism is but a Gramsci’d husk of one. As with virtually every aspect of the judaized society we perforce live in (or at least struggle to stay afloat in), the form has kept its name but lost its content and hence lost its meaning—all its meaning. It thus resembles nothing so much as a diabolized version of the Holy Eucharist—to refer to a core Christian dogma bound to inspire revulsion among the usual suspects—where the retention of form masks, not the gutting, but the transfiguration of content.

    So, quite unsyllogistically speaking, take your pick, ladies and gents: (1) a gutted, de-Christianized white bravado or (2) a transfigured, Christianized white loyalty. No pressure, of course. If you wish, you can, forgoing choice, just keep to your chair and wait till the serving tray of candied sweets and the bowl of creamed Vidalia onions makes its way around to you.

    At least while they last.

  89. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 3, 2012 - 11:38 am | Permalink

    @Luke:
    I have seen very little of those sort of folks here. I ask you to consider that since religion is, by its very nature, an emotional subject, the burden of a cool and objective head falls on us. Precision of criticism rather than the wholesale condemnation of a religion two thousands years old is the wiser course.

  90. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 3, 2012 - 11:28 am | Permalink

    @Luke:
    Another theory than Ted Kennedy’s anti-WASP rancour is, that he was threatened by the Jews : either play ball or you end up like your brothers.

    As for his alleged soberness, there is a bar in hell.

  91. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 3, 2012 - 10:42 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: I am referring to the automatic, heel-clicking, robotic reaction that we tend to see coming from these hard core bible thumpers who are apparently so brainwashed by their embrace of Christianity that they react negatively to any criticism whatsoever, however so slight, of their religion or of their Church.

    I realize that this reaction is quite common. It’s very much like how people will usually react when a loved family member is accused or attacked. Human nature is such that people tend to react defensively when a person or entity that they are deeply attached to is criticized, and it is my assertion that it requires a cool and objective head to listen to criticism, weigh the facts and evidence that is offered, and then evaluate whether the criticism is both warranted and valid.

    In this case, my facts and evidence are solid and indisputable.

    Which means I stand on firm ground and they are knee deep in quicksand.

  92. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 3, 2012 - 10:33 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Regarding Ted Kennedy, who, incidentally, has now been sober for 3 years 2 months and 7 days, a few voices in the White Nationalist / pro-White, patriot community have speculated that the reason Kennedy harbored such an intense hatred for Whites is due to his belief that the old ‘WASP’ dominant White conservative establishment were somehow involved in the assassinations of JFK and RFK.

    Having read the book Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper, and being aware of the preponderance of evidence that links Israel and their 5th column inside the USA to at least the JFK murder – I will concede that there was probably a considerable amount of WASP involvement involved, as well. JFK was not very well liked, overall, and both he and RFK seemed to revel in making as many enemies as they could.

    Hence, while Teddy was too gutless and cowardly to seek revenge against the jews or against Israel – he allowed himself to become a useful tool of the jews and took his revenge out on his fellow Whites, instead. In fact, I have a strong hunch that such a deal with the devil was the only deal that kept him from joining his two brothers.

  93. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 3, 2012 - 10:27 am | Permalink

    @Luke:
    Who has been defending current mainstream Christian churches?

  94. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 3, 2012 - 10:15 am | Permalink

    @Bobby: I’d like to agree with you, on principle. But, Christianity – or, more accurately, the vast majority of mainstream ‘Christian Church Leaders’ have not gone ‘neutral’ on the issue of White racial survival.

    They’ve gone on the offense, and they are wearing the uniform & colors of the Frankfurt School of anti-White Cultural Marxism.

    Which means: they are aggressively promoting policies that are indisputably destructive and counter-productive to the objectives of White European racial and cultural survival.

    Open borders immigration policies. Endless family reunifications of entire family trees of third worlders, visi-vi ‘chain immigration’. Supporting endless refugee resettlement and asylum policies, where massive numbers of non-whites are brought into America and then deliberately resettled in what few predominate White communities still exist. May I point out that a better policy might be to have fund raising enterprises where caring Christian people can stroke a check, and then that money could go to help those non-whites in their own nations instead of bringing them here?

    Then there is the pushing of miscegenation from the church pulpits, which clearly results in a decline in the already below-replacement level birth rates of White Europeans. Organizing resistance movements that attempt to repeal or thwart the legally passed state laws and regulations that are seeking to address illegal immigration problems at the local and state levels.

    Therefore, I must ask the defenders of the current mainstream Christian churches – to explain how and why those of us in the White Nationalist / White race realist community should adopt a ‘neutral’ position on this issue of Christianity and the role it’s current leadership is playing in our racial dispossession and ultimate destruction?

    I consider this to be an entirely fair and reasonable question and concern.

  95. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 3, 2012 - 8:39 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:

    Needless to say, you made a good point. However, I am still struck by the following example which I think confronts Whites dealing with very primitive peoples:

    Say there is a large area held by various squabbling tribes, basically living in Stone Age conditions. Some White men have discovered a way to use some rare material hidden under ground in this land, thus magically turning this previous “stuff” into a ‘resource’ (as a result of the White men’s intellectual work). The current tribesmen who occupy the land have been there for a century or so, but control of the land has passed back and forth for centuries, perhaps thousands of years amongst competing tribes. Tribal wars are incessant as is common in such conditions.

    Extracting the resource will require several billion dollars in infrastructure. This will require building structures and roads over several years. Highly skilled labor from White Western countries will be needed in large numbers. After that, a permanent crew of Whites will be required to run the operation indefinitely.

    So, in order for this to happen, the investors need to know their investment is safe. The workers need reasonable safeguards. And the company overall needs to feel that will have time to recoup its massive investment. All of this in a land with very little in the way of property rights. And with people who are not going to transform into engineers, lawyers and skilled workmen anytime soon – perhaps never.

    How else, other than establishing something like limited colonial rule can the project go forward? Of course, who we pay for the right to extract resources and how much, is a bit tricky; all we can do is try our best.

    Without something like colonial rule, it seems we simply have to walk away from the project forever. We must wait centuries for them to develop the necessary structures, stability and legal framework for a deal to go forward.

    Maybe it’s not as bleak as I think, but that is how it appears to my admittedly limited imagination. I don’t expect you to solve the whole problem here (and I may not have stated it the best way), but can you indicate a general strategy for dealing with major issues I raised? Thanks, I am interested in the libertarian perspective on such things.

  96. Lombard's Gravatar Lombard
    November 3, 2012 - 6:18 am | Permalink

    @Luke:
    “Well, by demonstrating this desire – non-whites are clearly aware, and I would say at a higher level than merely a subconscious one – that White European people are superior at nation building. ”
    Of course and this level of intellectual dishonesty will poison people on a psychological level. Consider the tribe who self-reinforce the idea that they’re a higher breed and yet continually must look at history and the high achievements, monuments, etc of the gentiles. Unlike Europeans (and generally others) who when confronted with a superior Nation, will look to emulate and improve themselves rather than ignore the facts and resent their achievements.

    The J’s have unfortunately transmitted this idea into the minds of non-whites who before the 21th century, didn’t have some ingrained, ideological victim based hatred for us.

  97. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 3, 2012 - 6:01 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:Being colonized is something quite different than trading. Moreover, colonial adventures are a heavy burden on domestic taxpayers, none of whom get to voice an opinion before being sent the bill.

  98. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 3, 2012 - 4:10 am | Permalink

    Thats a hard sell. It can never go mainstream. There seems to be opposite extremes. One is White guilty, the other is White romanticizing. The guilt therefore will always win.

    I think it has the advantage of being true. However, you are right that it is not that relevant to our current situation. We aren’t trying to sell White Rule to the world; we are just trying to promote White Survival.

    However, virtually all the Anti-White History we read is slanted to make Whites look bad all out of proportion and it has had a Marxist influence for generations. The truth is, anytime non-Whites have a choice about getting the products of White Civilization, they always go for them. When do aborigines, “Native Americans”, or whomever the romanticized noble savage of the moment is, ever choose to live as they did prior to Whites?

    I totally disagree with those so-called “White Nationalists” who repeat Marxist talking points about the evil of rapacious White men who “raped” innocent peoples. Go tell it to Occupy Wall Street.

    It boils down to this: Whose fate is better, the White woman who lives in an all-black neighborhood, or the black person who lives in an all-White neighborhood? We all know the answer.

    I don’t subscribe to egalitarianism. All groups are not equal. Blacks and browns have serious deficits in terms of abstract thinking, and this affects things such as ability to govern. Brown people are not just Whites who happen to be painted a different color; they are a sub-population of humans with different abilities and traits. And so far, none of them have come close to what Whites can do.

    I accept these differences among humans. It isn’t popular to say today and it isn’t the issue for our generation, but I find it hard to believe that if Whites regain their societies, and go on to master space, that entire continents on earth will be left in the Stone Age under the complete control of Stone Age people.

  99. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    November 3, 2012 - 3:24 am | Permalink

    Jason Speaks

    November 2, 2012- 10:00 am | Permalink

    “Yes. And by the way, I would say, contrary to what I have heard a few White Nationalists say, this is why White Rule over brown countries was not a bad idea, at least in theory, and often in practice. I have had a woman from the Philippines and Iran tell me things were much nicer when the White Americans ran everything.

    This isn’t anything to with your post, but I do think those WN who veer off into thinking like Marxists should reevaluate their views. Most non-White countries were much better off (and remain better off) due to White intercession into their countries.

    Thats a hard sell. It can never go mainstream. There seems to be opposite extremes. One is White guilty, the other is White romanticizing. The guilt therefore will always win.

    There are positives and negatives in White civilization, just like any other civilization. Denying its achievement or downplaying its atrocities will present only two opposite extremes. The guilt will win. There simply too much history to downplay the tragidies brought about on non Whites like aboriginies, native Americans or the Palestinians for that matter. Or the artocities in South America by the portugese or Spanish or the trans-atlantic slave trade.

    At the same time the indutrial revolution and the scientific revolutions and Westren productivity has brought benefits to billions of people. From cars, to planes, to medicines and technology and airconditions and food productions, White civilization has brought many benefits to mankind like no other civilization.

    But it brought many tragedies also like no other. This is normal for any powerful civilization that reached enormous power. Power that can bring benefits but also harm. Trying to make people choose, they will choose guilt since its easier to identify with human suffereing that human development.

    I have seen some attempts to try to downplay some of those tragic aspects of White history. By claiming “they were still better off”. There is no way to say that native Americans were better off with White migration to North America or the slaves brought were better off as slaves in North America than remining in poverty stricken Africa. This is hard to justify and people won’t buy it.

  100. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 2, 2012 - 8:13 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby: Even if one approaches the religious question purely at the political level, the benefit of having some rival to secular power can’t be overlooked. Would the Renaissance have occurred without the power struggle between the Papacy and the Empire, struggle that checked absolute power of either and left some room for intellectual debate and freedom?

    Look at Falun Gong and how crazy that makes the Chinese cadres, scared that some alternative source of authority might emerge not under their direct control.

    An adult’s religious views, in my opinion, are largely intractable. No Christian is going to be hectored out of his beliefs, and no amount of fire and brimstone is going to have the atheist embrace a faith. These sort of intimate questions are not resolved by haranguing, but by introspection.

    I believe the Jews’ redirecting of Christianity (via Scofield’s Reference Bible and the Christian Zionists) has been much more successful in subverting the West than their ham-fisted attempts to ban or stigmatize public displays of Christian faith.

  101. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 2, 2012 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Is there anyone here, anyone at all, who actually likes white people? Perhaps we all want to denounce that which has most disappointed us? Yes, as a believing Christian, I admit that many churches, along with all institutions in the west, have succumbed to the confusion and corruption which has affected our entire culture.

    Any glance at the last century or two will give the reason. We, the west, were staggered by our own accomplishments. We are so clever we managed to come close to nuclear destruction of huge parts of the world. Our medicine and technological innovations contributed to our hubris. The slaughter of the last century alone justifies our reaction. We decided to try something different. We did it in a big way. Left to ourselves, we would have corrected our course. Others, with a good deal more arrogance and absolutely no self-doubt took full advantage. Here we are.

    The simple truth is that we must win over more whites or we are lost. We must find a way to do so. Attacking Christianity with all the venom of our opponents is not the solution. I understand and accept that Christianity has lost many of us. I ask no one to believe. I do ask that when you criticize the religion cherished by countless generations of our ancestors you try to remember to do it with more sorrow than contempt.

    We can all agree, I hope, that truth is on our side. We will reach those of us who have the intelligence to understand, by appeals to truth. A system built on lies will not work well. A system in which definitions, and therefore the ability to discuss reality, constantly shifts is not reliable. A people who cannot manage their own affairs well enough to reproduce themselves are in serious trouble. Hurting someone’s feeling is not actually the greatest evil. Spread the word.

  102. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 2, 2012 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:

    I’m not sure it is all out-group altruism (although that is an issue). I think Whites like Ted Kennedy, Robert Wright, and several million other Whites are actively Anti-White, despite being White themselves. That component has to be factored in, with everything else.

    The problem isn’t that Kennedy, Wright and Jane Fonda just love others too much. They actively hate Whites.

  103. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    November 2, 2012 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Whew!! Luke opened a can of worms with his new revelation. As always, the lynchpin of his argument for many became the Christianity question. I absolutely won’t take sides on this, for the reason that, I have noticed the issue isn’t really resolved in the minds of most of the folks who blog about it here. My only suggestion, and I make it humbly since people like Luke and so many others have examined this much more closely than I have, is, let’s go to neutral. Lets’ not degrade or put down, any of the posters on the Christianity question, whether they are for or against it. Let’s keep this dialogue going, rationally if possible, because this question is so fundamental to the whole nationalist movement.

  104. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 2, 2012 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

    @Luke, re your “It occurred to me that the #1 reason why all non-whites in every third world nation on this planet want to do everything possible to move into a White European nation – is because those nations were created by White men and women, and they are superior, more advanced, cleaner, more technologically capable and usually more prosperous and enjoyable to live in than the non-white created hell hole they want so desperately to move away from.”

    Even monkeys will move to a tree with bigger bananas, their moving here doesn’t indicate anything more than that for most of them,

    “these non-whites appear to think that a historic White nation that was built by the superior talents of White ingenuity can somehow retain it’s superior standard of living without the White man or woman being in charge or without them having any dominant influence”

    gives them more credit than is due.

    Re your “And, sadly, I think its going to have to require a de-Christianizing of our people,”

    and “Christianity was a good thing, and it helped our people become strong – as long as we had our country basically to ourselves. When the jews opened our borders and began to flood our nations with millions of non-whites, that’s the point when Christianity became a deadly jewish weapon of mass white racial destruction”

    please pardon me for quibbling with your casual dismissal of Christianity but in my view putting white nationalism in conflict with Christianity is suicidal and you do not inspire our race to fight by joining the enemy in attacking Christianity. It should strike you as worthy of reflection that while jews are busy tearing down crosses at every opportunity you are joining in with “And, sadly, I think its going to have to require a de-Christianizing of our people.”

    As a practical matter those of us who cling to our guns and our religion are the ones who are going to have to do the fighting, and such matters are always decided by fighting, not philosophy. Perhaps you think that we will win this war with an army of atheists, but you are wrong.

    At the risk of repeating myself too often, Christianity is not the problem, those who hate Christianity are the problem, and problems with the feminized version of Christianity that you complain of will not be solved by attacking Christianity but only by attacking the feminization of it. Like it our not, Christianity is the fundamental unifying force of Western culture, and you do not save a race by attacking its fundamental values.

    Notwithstanding my opposing viewpoint on Christianity, thank you for writing about this important topic.

  105. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    November 2, 2012 - 10:27 am | Permalink

    @Luke:

    It isn’t clear Europeans have innate qualities that make them more susceptible to outgroup altruism. That behaviour may be killing us, but it isn’t the fundamental explanation so much as akin to the poison that was poured down our throats. Who poured the poison is the fundamental. As you know. As we all know. As no-one who comes here and agrees cannot know.
    There are lots of reasons to think that we are actually not at all susceptible to this..that it was very hard to put this on us. That whites are by nature the most racially conscious breed in the whole human family. Which is why, even now with things so bad, there are still many many possible futures involving a complete reversal. Whites are historically willing to do a lot of big time wetwork. Whites are willing historically do what has always been necessary to establish Land and People.

    So yes, it is extremely relevant what you say. But the question is how useful it is in changing the way whites think? That problem – as we all know – involves getting access to the instruments of public influence. And that problem – the nub of it – involves there being an enemy people who totally understand the potential fragility of their situation and the absolute cruciality that they hold on for dear life to those leverrs. That’s the landscape of this war. And it is war…it’s just that our side don’t know it’s a war. As you know. As we all know. As your points helpt us to explain and define and in that sense, because that do help us in that way, are relevant.

  106. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 2, 2012 - 10:07 am | Permalink

    @Snowhitey: In-group altruism is to be admired and fostered. Its one of the best traits that Whites can exhibit. Its the out-group altruism that is killing our race. We have to stop it. And, sadly, I think its going to have to require a de-Christianizing of our people.

    Christianity was a good thing, and it helped our people become strong – as long as we had our country basically to ourselves. When the jews opened our borders and began to flood our nations with millions of non-whites, that’s the point when Christianity became a deadly jewish weapon of mass white racial destruction.

  107. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 2, 2012 - 10:00 am | Permalink

    @Luke:

    the #1 reason why all non-whites in every third world nation … move into a White European nation – is because those nations were created by White men and women, and they are superior, more advanced, cleaner, more technologically capable and usually more prosperous and enjoyable to live in than the non-white created hell hole

    Yes. And by the way, I would say, contrary to what I have heard a few White Nationalists say, this is why White Rule over brown countries was not a bad idea, at least in theory, and often in practice. I have had a woman from the Philippines and Iran tell me things were much nicer when the White Americans ran everything.

    This isn’t anything to with your post, but I do think those WN who veer off into thinking like Marxists should reevaluate their views. Most non-White countries were much better off (and remain better off) due to White intercession into their countries.

  108. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    November 2, 2012 - 9:51 am | Permalink

    @Luke:

    non-whites appear to think that a historic White nation that was built by the superior talents of White ingenuity can somehow retain it’s superior standard of living without the White man or woman being in charge

    I think that is true for most non-Whites as well as many White Anti-Whites (although many White Anti-Whites are happy enough to see our stand of living collapse). With blacks and browns, I suspect most don’t have the cognitive ability to think through what you have posted. If they were that good at thinking ahead, they wouldn’t be in the shape they are.

  109. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 2, 2012 - 9:45 am | Permalink

    @Dustin: I’d like to chime in here with another observation, with regards to jews
    masquerading as Whites. When they are allowed to wear a mask that resembles our face and then engage in evil deeds, Whites are the ones who get the blame for their evil.

    I don’t wish to discount the fact that there have been and still are a considerable number of legitimately evil White men and/or White women, but it would also be fair to note that in the vast majority of these cases – these evil Whites are allied with the jews at some level, and are working with the jews to achieve some sinister objective.

  110. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 2, 2012 - 9:36 am | Permalink

    I had a revelation this morning and thought that I might share it with the TOO community. It is related to this topic, albeit in an indirect fashion.

    It occurred to me that the #1 reason why all non-whites in every third world nation on this planet want to do everything possible to move into a White European nation – is because those nations were created by White men and women, and they are superior, more advanced, cleaner, more technologically capable and usually more prosperous and enjoyable to live in than the non-white created hell hole they want so desperately to move away from. This immigration invasion is a one way street; always non-whites wanting to move into historic White European nations and never the other way around, right?

    Well, by demonstrating this desire – non-whites are clearly aware, and I would say at a higher level than merely a subconscious one – that White European people are superior at nation building. On the other hand, despite having admitted this racial truth by their very own behavior – no sooner than they arrive here, or in any other historic White European nation, they immediately – if given the chance – will vote for non-white candidates for political office, and for their own racial group, if possible – in order to remove the White man or woman from as many positions of power and influence as they can.

    The end conclusion that I arrive at, when considering these contradictory and clearly inconsistent behaviors – is that these non-whites appear to think that a historic White nation that was built by the superior talents of White ingenuity can somehow retain it’s superior standard of living without the White man or woman being in charge or without them having any dominant influence.

    This obviously will not be the case, as we can see that whenever and wherever non-white racial groups gain numerical superiority in a given city or region of a historic White European nation – they rapidly reproduce a facsimile of the third world nation that they were so desperate to leave behind, complete with all of the very same dysfunctionalities that existed in their native homelands.

    Anyway, I think this revelation adds to the discussion in that it helps Whites understand that we cannot depend upon minorities to abandon their deeply ingrained sense of racial loyalty to their own racial group, because that sense of loyalty is clearly stronger and more powerful than the part of their brains that makes them wish to invade and colonize our superior civilizations.

    It should therefore be obvious that minorities know they are running a scam on our race, which is why they tend to react with such resentment when they hear one of our people expressing pro-White, racially healthy sentiments. Their scam only works when Whites are de-racinated.

  111. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 1, 2012 - 11:38 pm | Permalink

    @katana, re “To be blunt, the ‘Christianity of Scripture’ is just another variety of nonsense to me.”
    I’ll still cling to my NT, thanks, as for the OT, I consider much of it to be merely jewish tribal legend and perhaps we aren’t so far apart on that.

    re “In my teenage years I went through a religious phase so I think I also understand where you are coming from. In any case we are not about to de-convert each other!”
    Lol, so true.

    re “Whites, regardless of their political or religious beliefs, need to unite in defeating the jewish snake that is coiled around us.”
    Yes, exactly.

    @Bigmo, re “ There is no evidence of Adam and Eve or how the origins of life came to be. Its all a mystery.”
    At least we agree on Adam and Eve, and I’m also glad to see the “Its all good” from you.

  112. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    November 1, 2012 - 9:51 pm | Permalink

    @Sandy:

    Hi Sandy

    I’d like to see that movie someday, but as of now I haven’t. So I can’t really say either way.

    It’s a little strange to read my words from a few days ago, which you included in your comment.

    Back to that movie…

    It’s amazing how much better some of those old movies are, compared to the ones they make these days; the writing, the acting, the sets — all of it was better. And the actors and actresses were more beautiful. And there wasn’t nearly as much multiculturalism or other agendas. (I’m not saying that those movies were completely free of those things.)

  113. Sandy's Gravatar Sandy
    November 1, 2012 - 6:46 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: You say that seeking respectability is for wimps and cowards. I don’t know how true that is. And I don’t think that it takes a lot of strength or courage to write tough-sounding comments anonymously on the internet. I seem to remember a scene from Gone With the Wind in which the northern conquerors were put out because they weren’t socially acceptable in the South and weren’t able to hob nob with the defeated, yet socially superior Southerners. I suspect that this is what you are getting at with your idea of respectability.

  114. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    November 1, 2012 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    @Snowhitey: It would not be a “weakness” in a 100 percent white society.”

    So true. Let’s think of how this “fairness”, Luke writes about has been received. Whites getting lableled as having “white priviledge”, being called racist 24/7, being characterized as having “special pathologies” compared to other races, cultures, and all of it done very strategically, tactically, and with the intention of totally destroying them. That “fairness” has cost a lot.

  115. Snowhitey's Gravatar Snowhitey
    November 1, 2012 - 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Great article, Luke.

    It would not be a weakness in a 100% white society. Before the Jew mindset took hold and created a dysfuntional social operating system, fairness was correctly valued. It’s what made us great to some degree. Now it is a method of murder as well as suicide. Who knew?

  116. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    November 1, 2012 - 1:59 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius: You are correct, Lysenko was Lamarckist, and besides natural selection sounding too capitalistic, it had another disadvantage, namely that it was too slow. Lysenko’s theories promised Stalin a quicker way to enhance yields, which during the agricultural disasters of… his entire rule he was all too eager to exploit. Well, Lysenko proved to be a disaster for Soviet agriculture, but Soviet agriculture was a disaster anyway, with or without Lysenko.

  117. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 1, 2012 - 12:16 pm | Permalink

    @katana:

    Whites, regardless of their political or religious beliefs, need to unite in defeating the jewish snake that is coiled around us.

    You mean this Snake?

  118. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 1, 2012 - 10:02 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    That was my reaction, too. Better put, it was my near-despairing reaction. I thought we’d crossed this Dantesque CI river once and for all. Heraclitus, call your office!

    @Athanasius:

    How quickly they forget! Of course, Stalin couldn’t stand most of Shostakovich’s music, which in my book means he wasn’t all bad.

  119. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    November 1, 2012 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    starera

    October 31, 2012- 8:09 pm | Permalink

    “Btw, I note your reference to “how racial theories was(sic) based exclusively on darwinian thought” and I’m curious, how do you explain the existence of different races if all humans are descended from Adam and Eve?”

    There is no evidence of Adam and Eve or how the origins of life came to be. Its all a mystery.

    Its all good . Thanks for your reply.

  120. katana's Gravatar katana
    November 1, 2012 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    starera
    October 31, 2012 – 8:09 pm

    @katana, thanks for your reply also, and I certainly agree that the feminized version of Christianity falls short, but not the Christianity of Scripture.
    ———-

    To be blunt, the ‘Christianity of Scripture’ is just another variety of nonsense to me.

    >Of course I can’t agree with your “All ‘religions’ come from men. They are constructed and maintained by men to control other men,” but for what it is worth I did go through such a phase as a young man and I think that I understand where you are coming from.

    In my teenage years I went through a religious phase so I think I also understand where you are coming from. In any case we are not about to de-convert each other!

    Whites, regardless of their political or religious beliefs, need to unite in defeating the jewish snake that is coiled around us.

  121. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    November 1, 2012 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    @BIGMO: Actually, Stalin tried to have Darwinisn suppressed, as he considered it capitalist science (the competitive aspects of natural selection sound a lot like the market). He promoted a fraud named Lysenko instead, and as a result of this Soviet agriculture went down the tubes.

  122. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 1, 2012 - 3:29 am | Permalink

    @shrug:
    Seems we got our second Tyron Parsons here!

  123. shrug's Gravatar shrug
    November 1, 2012 - 1:11 am | Permalink

    True Christianity makes men (and women) strong. It is the false teachings of JUDEO-Christianity that makes us “feminized” and weak.

    If anyone is looking for a race conscious version of Christianity they should look into Christian Identity which is an interpretation of scriptures diametrically opposed to the bought-off 503c mainstream modern false churches.

    If nothing else you will learn about white racial identity as our European-Christian forefathers taught and practiced.

    Here are two sites but there are others.

    http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com

    http://www.christogenea.org

    The patriarchs (male rule) of Israel were all Yahweh-worshipping white men. From Adam to Yahshua Christ. The problems we face today were foretold in the bible. The solution is there too. A return to our father Yahweh and his son, our savior Jesus Christ.

    Even though no version of Christianity is more lied about, condemned and silenced by Christ-hating jews than CI, the Word is getting out anyway. Praise Yahweh!

  124. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    November 1, 2012 - 12:17 am | Permalink

    Torttori , This line caught my eye in you comment : I know an Ultra-Christian Korean who turned down a high paying job to travel to Africa and work at orphanages.I know an Ultra-Christian Korean who turned down a high paying job to travel to Africa and work at orphanages.

    Belief systems has a lot more play in human behavior than the evolutionists give credit . When stripped down most all belief system promote personal benefit through the strong materialist social urge in people .Christians a banking on Heaven for the payday , they are not selflessly motivated . It is only when these ‘missionaries’ come face to face with social disintegration in their homelands that they start to question the moral logic of mass immigration . That is obviously not a problem for the highly racist (ie normal) Asian states .

    The disintegration of the Western World always comes back to University trained ‘intellectuals’ that infest governments and corporations and the constant propaganda from the Ziomasonic media .

    Interestingly (for me) the free MSM in Australia (with many British programs ) has gone visually mute on multiculti after the London riots . Now all we are being shown are white faces on ABC TV , which is he channel that middle class intellectuals watch . The Ziomason is sensitive to the pushback against the swamping of Oz by the hyper-competitive Chinese . Also our Jewish reporters (& film crew ??) for the Aust Broadcasting Corp–ABC TV, are the only ones ever on international assignment (to keep the rest of the Ozi Euro’s back at headquarters ignorant (and uninfected) to what is really going on in the US ,Libya , Syria or Britain as the Ziomason knows that the Jew will rarely side with Whites on Multiculturalism and these reporter are in all likelihood Masons promoting the NWO , ie European dispossession .
    A good example of this was the reporting of the Super Storm on East Coast USA covered by two crypto’s . All , all of TV shots show is white faces–blacks and latinos have been scrubbed ! This is a new form of propaganda to keep whites pacified with illusions as the sun slowly sets . Its all so diabolically cunning , yet on the ground here the reverse is true with Indians being deliberately elevated to positions of control/power amongst the sheeple to cower white pride . And I get a hard time for writing this I can tell you .

  125. Matthew Dunnyveg's Gravatar Matthew Dunnyveg
    October 31, 2012 - 10:57 pm | Permalink

    “During the Q&A session which followed the conclusion of Jared Taylor’s remarks, all of the voices that were heard asking questions seemed to sound like they were coming from very polite, very cordial-sounding White people who were in the audience.”

    I attended Jared Taylor’s talk at Texas A&M. Sadly, there were only about two dozen people in attendance, with most of them being students. Not all of them were white by any means.

    Not only were there no protests, but everybody bent over backwards to be nice. Even the staff member monitoring the talk gave us, including Taylor, a pleasant smile before leaving.

    If I had children of that age, this is where I’d want them to go to school.

  126. starera's Gravatar starera
    October 31, 2012 - 8:09 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert, thanks for your reply, I believe that the sense of bewilderment and despair that many whites have over the lack of self-defense we show can be somewhat relieved by understanding the impact of feminization. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with our race, we are the same race that conquered most of the world. We made a grave error in giving too much political power to females and are now in decline, but that can be corrected.

    @Bigmo, thanks for your reply as well, it is not you personally that I object to, your appearance here demonstrates your worth and you need not be defensive about your faith-based views on evolution, I respect them, however those views are not supported by the evidence. Please don’t consider my comments on the subject to be a personal attack, they are not intended to be.

    Btw, I note your reference to “how racial theories was(sic) based exclusively on darwinian thought” and I’m curious, how do you explain the existence of different races if all humans are descended from Adam and Eve?

    @katana, thanks for your reply also, and I certainly agree that the feminized version of Christianity falls short, but not the Christianity of Scripture.

    Of course I can’t agree with your “All ‘religions’ come from men. They are constructed and maintained by men to control other men,” but for what it is worth I did go through such a phase as a young man and I think that I understand where you are coming from.

    Your “Jews are using Christinsanity(sic) now, as one of their weapons against us,” is obviously true, they misrepresent religion just as they misrepresent science and anything else handy.

  127. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 31, 2012 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    @Dustin: Dustin, millions upon millions of “white Americans”, are clueless on so many things going on in this nation concerning themselves and their families and friends, that it’s mindboggling when one contemplates all the ways they are clueless. It’s really better to go fishing. And no, I’m not being entirely facetious.

  128. Dustin's Gravatar Dustin
    October 31, 2012 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    White Americans have no clue that a foreign race controls their country, and Jared Taylor makes things even worse by saying that this foreign race is also White. Taylor is simply not going to have the influence he wants by ignoring reality. People aren’t going to make those critical connections unless they realize that Whites DON’T control America, or ANY White nation for that matter. Until Whites understand that this is being done TO them by a race that hates them, they’re going to be led down blind alleys by people like Taylor.

    ^ This is very true about Whites and Non-Whites alike. They believe that Jews and Whites are one in the same. They make no distinction between the two and they go about making the claims that America is controlled by rich White men. The distinction must be made that Jews are not the same as us. It seems intentional the the Jew blends in among us, and therefore the perception exists that their crimes are perpetrated by Whites and that we suffer the consequences for it while their reputation remains unblemished and any time this point is brought up the accusation of being an anti Semite is quick to follow.

  129. Dustin's Gravatar Dustin
    October 31, 2012 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    I know it’s only a minor detail, but rather than calling them anti-white-whites, I prefer calling them self hating whites.

  130. katana's Gravatar katana
    October 31, 2012 - 7:46 am | Permalink

    >starera
    October 28, 2012 – 8:12 pm | Permalink
    @Franklin Ryckaert, Your “unfortunately Christianity has exactly the opposite qualities a ‘race realist’ ideology would require” ignores the historical record. The historical fact is that the Christian West was more successful at colonization and subjugation of other races than any other civilization in history.
    ———-

    Quite right, but I took FR’s comment to be talking about the Christianity that we have today.

    Christiinsanity has as many flavors throughout history as you care to subdivide.

    I agree with his point that Christianity is not helping, although there is no doubt some Christians who are totally on side.

    > The feminization of the West is what changed things;

    I agree.

    >Scripture did not change.

    What has been written down may not have changed much. But that doesn’t mean much. ‘Scripture’ is just words, like a poem is just words. Interpretations of the poem may vary according to the people and the season.

    >Cultural definition of Christianity can be changed and has changed to reflect the feminization of culture, but you are incorrect to conclude that it is a necessary result of Christianity.

    Present day Christianity is a major part of the cause of the feminization of White culture for the reasons that FR gave.

    I assume you are a Christian, and for that I can say that you are likely a of man principle with a keen interest in truth.

    That said, you have been profoundly led astray. All ‘religions’ come from men. They are constructed and maintained by men to control other men.

    Jews are using Christinsanity now, as one of their weapons against us.

  131. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    October 31, 2012 - 4:49 am | Permalink

    starera October 30, 2012 – 4:21 pm | Permalink
    “The “research and data” is there, apparently you aren’t aware of it. Your reference to Hitler, Mao et al. is nonsense, no doubt they all believed in gravity as well. ”

    I never said there is no research and data, I said that research and data is based on Darwinian theory and genetic study. That is all shaky science.

    I am fully aware of Darwinism. I don’t see it as a science but an atheistic material philosophy. Hitler relied almost exclusively on Darwinism to promote his Aryan racial theories. Plus I detect animosity on your tone. I am not sure why this is the case. Why is it that only White nationalist need genetic theories? I do not see Jews, Asians or Arab nationalist relying on scientific philosophies. They all rely on ethnicity, culture, history and even religion.

    Darwin’s contribution to race science is well known. However in recent years it has been hijacked by the atheist crowd. These people were looking for an alternative to Christianity. There is no scientific evidence for Darwin’s theory, even Darwinist admit this. They just claim there is no scientific alternative to understanding the origins of life.

    See for yourself how racial theories was based exclusively on darwinian thought:

    http://vimeo.com/45896214

    I detest it when people assume you know nothing.

  132. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 31, 2012 - 1:28 am | Permalink

    @starera:
    Yes, an important point. The men are supposed to defend their people’s territory. If they don’t do that, they are defeated by their enemies who then go after their women. The women then see the victorious enemies as dominant and prefer them to their own men. This is happening now in the feminized West. Main culprit : feminism.

  133. starera's Gravatar starera
    October 31, 2012 - 1:17 am | Permalink

    @Tottori, thanks for your reply, and for your info in my view the racial altruism factor is minor compared to the feminization factor I mentioned previously. I take it from your reply that you have done some research on the biological influence upon behavior and you will understand that sex is a much more important factor than race when it comes to the lack of white counterattack the author talks about. Defense of territory is more or less exclusively a male function in humans and females are relatively poor at seeing abstract threats to our society; it is primarily the feminization of the West that has been seized upon and exploited by our enemies.

  134. Tottori's Gravatar Tottori
    October 30, 2012 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    @starera; You’re right, I made a mistake. Whites are generally the most altruistic group with respect to other groups. Adoption studies and charity donations are good scientific examples. I guess that could be seen as “whites are more fair than others” concerning interaction between racial groups.

    I think the main problem is that whites don’t see themselves as a group being harmed (and many liberals don’t even think whites are a group lol). So in a way it could be argued that whites are the most unfair to their own ethnic group interests (whites psychologically adopting “culture of critique” values).
    I still have a problem with the tone of the article (“Our enemies, primarily the Jews…” “…not genetically engineered to possess these kinds of traits… ”, “…fairness’ that clearly does not exist within the genetic blueprint of non-Whites…”) I would have instead worded it like “those with strong biases against white interests- primarily Jewish political organizations and the overwhelmingly Jewish owned mass media (then give a citation to CoC and examples of their bias against whites and towards Israeli double standards)…” and also I’d say “…non-whites behave with, on average, less out-group altruism than whites…”.
    I know an Ultra-Christian Korean who turned down a high paying job to travel to Africa and work at orphanages. I don’t understand how it can be said “fairness… does not exist within the genetic blueprint of non-whites…” To me, if you replaced the word “non-whites” with “whites”, that reminds me of a comment that could easily be made by some ultra nationalist black panther organization talking about slavery and making sweeping generalizations about the inherit evil of whites. It’s really ridiculous.

    • norm s's Gravatar norm s
      October 31, 2012 - 7:43 am | Permalink

      @Tottori: Well said.

    • norm s's Gravatar norm s
      October 31, 2012 - 8:08 am | Permalink

      @starera: There are certain movements that have a life of their own. The civil rights movement was well on its way before being exploited by left wing groups. The intergration of black and white music (rock/roll) is an example. The womens movement also could be seen as more women joined the work force. This also was exploited by Feminists but they did not start it. Economics was the real factor feminist simple took credit with the help of the media.. The Vikings can be seen as being real men but in a nuclear age some softening was needed. Again left wing groups picked this up and took credit. These ” movements” can be exploited but not stopped.

  135. starera's Gravatar starera
    October 30, 2012 - 4:21 pm | Permalink

    @Tottori, the reference to genetics is not emotional, your “It’s not supported by psychological data,” is more precisely vague and unsupported, but emotional works.

    Sociobiology predicts different levels of altruism in the races and those differences are seen as predicted. In my view the topic is better understood in terms of the feminization of Western culture however a greater innate altruism in the white race does exist.

    @BIGMO, re “I always believed that such incitements without proper research and data will be destructive. Often this reliance on genetic theories and Darwinian thought is very shaky and can be moulded(sic) wich ever(sic) way it can. Hitler and Mao both used Darwinian theories and so did Stalin and Marx.”

    The “research and data” is there, apparently you aren’t aware of it. Your reference to Hitler, Mao et al. is nonsense, no doubt they all believed in gravity as well.

  136. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 30, 2012 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

    “Non-whites” is pretty inclusive. I think there’s a gradient. For many Asians, respect is a large part of their cultural (or genetic?) heritage, and a sense of fairness resides in respect, to some degree. (Caveat: some Asian groups, such as the Japanese and Chinese, are more steeped in respect than others, like the brash Vietnamese.)

    Of course, this is more true on a personal level than a group level, as all racial groups, outside of whites, will act in their own self-interest. At the risk of sounding like a poster child for modern white notions of dysfunctional and unilateral fairness, we can’t necessarily condemn members of the more respectful groups of Asians simply for possessing that which we whites don’t: group self-interest.

    Asians, generally speaking, certainly aren’t as morally corrupt and hypocritical as immigrants of african, jewish and latino origin in this regard, and are often more ethical than many whites. Chinese immigrants to Europe and the US see themselves, I suspect, as opportunists and (unfortunately) as integrationists. I believe most presume that their descendents will eventually combine genetically with Americans, probably preferring whites over other non-Asians. This, of course, is not good for whites as a group, and I’m personally against it, but I’m not sure marrying whites could be considered “racial self-interest” on the part of Asians (it is for blacks, however, as procreating with whites could be viewed generally as a “genetic upgrade”.)

    Back to fairness; on a personal level, I’ve encountered many Asians who’ve taken the notion of personal accountability with regards to the treatment of others to a higher level than many whites.

  137. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 30, 2012 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Am riiight pleased ta mak yer happy me auld chum! Nuffin like a gud belly laff ter see ya day rite thru and din gud spirets. :-)

  138. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 30, 2012 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon: I’m not formally admitting that I couldn’t decipher the last—on the grounds that I was brought up to believe that a gentleman never asks someone to explain a joke—but even now I can barely type for laughing at the first and second. The fact that the girl in the second is talking to her dad makes it all the more hilarious.

  139. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 30, 2012 - 11:21 am | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: My state of mind is sharp matey, sharp! Hope yours is too.

    Well, as for me “not being able to live without us” … I reckon my ‘return’ is just me trying to do my duty. I can’t entirely walk away.

    I must ration my TOO inputs else I am never going to finish my own projects. Facing down Trolls and idiots (you know who they are) is time consuming.

    *************************************************

    On the topic of enforced diversity, demoralization, and misplaced “fairness” … an artificially inflated racial joust is in full swing over in the English Premier League (that country’s highest level soccer league). Also known as “The EPL”.

    The former captain of the English national side and captain of Chelsea FC, John Terry, was recently vilified and metaphorically “hounded to death” after saying some “naughty” words of an allegedly racial nature, in the heat of the moment, to some half-caste member of the Queens Park Rangers team, who also happens to be the brother of the half-caste Manchester United player, Rio Ferdinand. Terry had to pay various fines both to the Football Association and to his own club, AND appear in a court of law!!

    And only last weekend, a senior referee named Mark Clattenburg was accused of calling the Nigerian who plays for Chelsea, John Obi Mikel, a “monkey”. Chelsea had two players sent off the field for infringements that day, and they lost at home for the first time in many months, 2-3.

    I have been called a lot worse in my time, and probably so have most other ethno-Europeans visiting this esteemed website. Indeed, some of the words I’ve been called were unrecognised as they had been spoken in Jamaican Patois, Tagalog, or in Hindi.

    But in Arabic, I was always praised and revered. Just goes to show we’ve got the wrong idea about our Arabian (or Muslim) cousins.

    Mark Clattenburg denies the charges. And his Assistants heard nothing even thought they are linked wirelessly, via headsets. Nevertheless, something called the Society of Black Lawyers has just filed a formal complaint; an action which has made it mandatory for London’s Metropolitan Police (still mostly ‘White’) to initiate an investigation.

    About 10 years or more ago, I predicted something like this would eventually start to happen in Britain, but I wasn’t writing my own Blog, so I have no record of doing so. Nonetheless, anyone with eyes wide open would have seen this scenario coming down the track.

    Within 8 short years, English football (the correct word for what Amerikans call “soccer”) has been turned into a reflection of American Football and Basketball, where it is my impression about 80 percent of all players are black or coloured. English Football has not yet reached the 80 percent or so level seen in the US, but certain teams already have a preponderance of dark-skinned players, such as last season’s champions, Manchester City. When they pipped the mostly white-skinned Manchester United by just 1 point.

    Give it a few more years, and the £-millions that have been pumped into the now multi-culti English Premier League will (hopefully) go down the drain as more and more people are turned off by the spectacle of watching team after team of blacks playing each other week in and week out. If they actually had better skills, criticism would be more difficult. But they don’t and never have. Most of the world’s best soccer players are ‘White’ or very ‘nearly White’.

    One of England’s best and most entertaining forwards (an attacking player), named Wayne Rooney, has Irish lineage and looks more like a boxer than a footballer, yet his footwork skills, leaping ability, bicycle kicks, and tactical awareness are superior to most.

  140. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    October 30, 2012 - 10:07 am | Permalink

    It does seem like a good alternative, I meant to say.
    I also meant to say “considered” instead of “considering”.

  141. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    October 30, 2012 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    @Free Thinker: I think the younger guys are probably going to grow up resenting the system. When I was growing up, all the PC crap was being verbalized, but white men still ran everything. Now we don’t, virtually every position is filled by a quota system or politically motivated appointment. The young boys can see the ridiculous manifestation of “we are all equal” when unqualified people are in place. Maybe they will revolt, who knows? Most wars are fought by young men.
    As far as video games are concerned, I’ve never considering your point of view. I mainly worried that my sons would not understand or make the connection that death is final, since in those games they get killed about 75 times per hour. It doesn seem like a good non PC alternative to TV brainwashing, though. My daughter(s) watch some idiotic show about rich brats, nicely integrated and going to some private school on a bluff overlooking the Pacific, happily ensconced in a future world of glorious diversity. Naturally, some white kid is the designated clown.
    When they get old enough, I will also take them out to the gun range to learn self defense.

  142. BIGMO's Gravatar BIGMO
    October 30, 2012 - 12:39 am | Permalink

    Fender, good point. It sounds like Jared taylor is controlled opposition.

    There is something about mass immigration that changes everything. Thats the demographic shift. The race wars in America was a White versus White affair about what to do with Blacks. The civil war was about Anglos fighting Anglos. It was still a White affair all along. Mass immigration changes that dynamics. The race debate in America was determined by Whites. Now its determined by non Whites. A huge shift.

  143. BIGMO's Gravatar BIGMO
    October 30, 2012 - 12:34 am | Permalink

    Tottori, well said. I always believed that such incitements without proper research and data will be destructive. Often this reliance on genetic theories and Darwinian thought is very shaky and can be moulded wich ever way it can. Hitler and Mao both used Darwinian theories and so did Stalin and Marx. Even some rappers used the concept of survival of the fittest to justify gang violence.

    More importantly it distracts and makes Whites think unless you can claim moral and intellectual superiority you have no eason to have a strong White identity. Like any other civilizations, Wetsern civilization has its positives and negatives. But just like other civilizations are based on ethnicity and culture, Whites should also demand one. I have noticed that when some Nationalist talk about Jews they talk religion and activism and ideology, but when it moves to Blacks, it tends to be genetic and biology.

  144. Tottori's Gravatar Tottori
    October 29, 2012 - 11:55 pm | Permalink

    non-whites are not genetically engineered to possess these kinds of traits

    I’m not a fan of this kind of emotional statement. It’s not supported by psychological data. We don’t need to tear other people down with illogical statemetns to say that we deserve rights.

    The main point of the article was great though. The idea that whites have interests, and the right to exist- just as any other people do- and that other people should have no say so in the future of white interests. Powerful. That’s what living in a high social capital community of similar people is all about.

  145. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    October 29, 2012 - 10:50 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: interesting comment . I went to a all white (apart from the Aborizonial Security guard ) Folk festival and they are also lost and demoralized (thought they can’t see it themselves) .All shell backed and smiley faced , apart for the righteous left in their colorful costumes and the haughty happy .
    A part of the destruction of this class of men 35-60 in the low wage classes has been the divorce laws and the feminist brain wash . A lot of these men don’t know what they think or believe , their desire to conform as sheeple is so strong that they end up becoming something pathetic and unattractive to their own women : metrosexuals . Once they submit to this form then their woman gets used to feeling superior , kicking and ridiculing the crawling whining dog .
    The point I make is the weak get pulled into this hopeless vortex and become some sort of force fed domesticated looser , who looks to his looser buddies for identity.
    Interesting the rise of computer games seems to be breaking this spinless male metrosexual mold . All that shooting and combat in the AI world without the TV non-sense together with book like the “Pickup artist’ and the porno would seem to be bringing out a sort of machismo upfront stand and deliver personality to whites below 35 . That is an Ozi perspective but our society is a lot less violent (no hand guns and Africans )and social welfare more secure than the US . So young white men are not constantly being intimidated .
    What do you think?

  146. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    October 29, 2012 - 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Good to have you back Anglo-Saxon. I knew you couldn’t live without us! How is your “state” of mind?

  147. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 29, 2012 - 8:00 am | Permalink

    @90404:

    The first slaves were Indians, enslaved by other Indian Tribes.

    Where they indeed? Oh, okay then.

    And you want to know something else?

    The first sandwich was a Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato (BLT) made by the Sumerians.

  148. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 29, 2012 - 7:54 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Oooh … now you’ve gone and made me cwry! Please put your spikey handbag down Jwason and stop throwing these awful tantrums here at TOO, where you live with your coven of half-baked and fruit-the-loop supporters. O-vey!

  149. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 29, 2012 - 6:10 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    You make some interesting points which I hope to be able to respond to.

  150. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    October 28, 2012 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:
    The first slaves were Indians, enslaved by other Indian Tribes.

  151. starera's Gravatar starera
    October 28, 2012 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert, Your “unfortunately Christianity has exactly the opposite qualities a ‘race realist’ ideology would require” ignores the historical record. The historical fact is that the Christian West was more successful at colonization and subjugation of other races than any other civilization in history. The feminization of the West is what changed things; Scripture did not change. Cultural definition of Christianity can be changed and has changed to reflect the feminization of culture, but you are incorrect to conclude that it is a necessary result of Christianity.

    @Brian, ”Jared Taylor also never mentions the role of Jews in opening our borders to the third world. His approach is a losing proposition and that is why he is allowed to speak at these so-called universities.”
    Exactly, that which keeps the goys fighting each other suits the jew, why not let JT stir things up a little.

  152. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 28, 2012 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

    @Brian:

    Yes, and it’s critical that people understand that these things aren’t happening naturally, that a FOREIGN RACE is behind what’s happening in America and across the West. The way Jared Taylor talks about these problems, you’d think that they were just “happening.”

    Imagine yourself as an average White liberal American. You believe in racial equality, tolerance, multiculturalism, immigration, and diversity. Then comes along this obscure writer who says that the American media, government, and academia are anti-White and promote policies that harm Whites. But America is run by White people! This guy is clearly a nutcase to suggest that White-run America is somehow “anti-White.” Preposterous!

    White Americans have no clue that a foreign race controls their country, and Jared Taylor makes things even worse by saying that this foreign race is also White. Taylor is simply not going to have the influence he wants by ignoring reality. People aren’t going to make those critical connections unless they realize that Whites DON’T control America, or ANY White nation for that matter. Until Whites understand that this is being done TO them by a race that hates them, they’re going to be led down blind alleys by people like Taylor.

  153. October 28, 2012 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Enlightenment thinkers like Voltaire were very race-conscious.

    How many thinkers “like Voltaire” do you think the Enlightenment produced?

    The strain of Enlightenment thinking that is crucially relevant for the United States is represented by, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal….” or as they say in France, les droits de l’homme.

  154. Brian's Gravatar Brian
    October 28, 2012 - 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Jared Taylor also never mentions the role of Jews in opening our borders to the third world. His approach is a losing proposition and that is why he is allowed to speak at these so-called universities.

  155. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 28, 2012 - 5:38 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    “Unfortunately most of us are still caught in Enlightenment thinking (which is what the official propaganda of the USA teaches)”

    The USA doesn’t teach Enlightenment thinking, it teaches jewish BS. Whites are trained to think like jews and see White history as jews see it. Enlightenment thinkers like Voltaire were very race-conscious.

  156. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    October 28, 2012 - 4:51 pm | Permalink

    I was in Atlantic City playing poker recently, and the room was totally integrated, most people knew each other, most looked like a bunch of harmless losers to me, and all the races seemed to get along. As I sat at the table, I appeared to be getting along with everyone also, so I doubt anyone could have read my mind. (well, they couldn’t read me at the poker table, for sure, since I won money from them most nights)
    What was on my mind was that as stated in this article, mainly that whites have accepted, for some unknown reason, this whole screwey concept of diversity is good, and that whites are not worth fighting for, and it will somehow work out for everyone. I think it will be a slow decline, because the system seems to not fall apart by plugging in people, but certainly it lacked greatness. Also, I think this is a time that will separate out the weak and non racially aware whites, leaving us with a stronger core someday, but it could be decades. It is for us to leave an intellectual basis for whites to exist in the future, assuming we aren’t willing to fight today, which few whites appear to want.
    As I said, most of the people there, including the white people, looked like a bunch of losers, content to waste their life drinking, smoking, ruining their teeth and health, getting fat, and commenting on stupid games on the tube. The superficial comaraderie seemed empty to me, but I couldn’t really see who might be an ally, and what must they have thought of me? Was I a fellow traitor to the white race? Did I project an air of one who longed for my own people to regain their once great country? Did I look like a loser, albeit one with a stack of chips who has all of his teeth?
    I sensed the one thing that could be said that wouldn’t have been acceptable was a pro-white statement. I sensed all the minorities felt a sense of comaraderie fully grounded in a commonly understood and accepted concept that white unity is evil, but minority unity is righteous.
    Although all the signers of the 1787 Constitution were white men, we are now the enemy of the government we created if we dare to oppose our own extinction. The founding fathers would probably consider us unworthy cowards.

  157. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 28, 2012 - 4:44 pm | Permalink

    @Axon:

    lol yeah

  158. Axon's Gravatar Axon
    October 28, 2012 - 4:40 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    You really think a Jock would actually entitled himself “Anglo Saxon”!?! Not unless Hell has had an unexpected drop into the sub-zeroes!!!

  159. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 28, 2012 - 4:21 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:

    Anglo Saxon, The only thing you slap regularly are parts of yourself. You are the kind of effeminate poser that parasites every blog. You’ve never done anything pro-White in your life. Youve never brought anything positive to this site in almost two years. Like any old cranky queen, you sit around attacking half a dozen posters in order to get attention.

    The men have work to do. Can’t you and the other nancy boys go play somewhere else?

  160. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 28, 2012 - 3:05 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:

    Are you from Glasgow?

  161. ajax's Gravatar ajax
    October 28, 2012 - 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Let us contemplate the worst case scenario, the haiti scenario:
    who are the winners, and who are the losers at te end of the day, after the dust settles? the blacks in haiti slaughtered all the whites, prsumably won the battle, took the place over, and turned it into what it is today, an absolute hell on earth.

    I dont know about you guys, but I would rather be a dead european than a living black in a black run, hell on earth.

    There is a God, and he is watching.

  162. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 28, 2012 - 2:50 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: No, you silly tart. I gave you a masterly slap on your ology.

  163. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 28, 2012 - 2:46 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    He-he … Let’s see if you can decipher these Glazgee wittoms:

    Did you hear about the guy who liked eating bricks and cement?
    He’s awa’ noo.

    A pregnant teenage girl phones her dad at midnight and says:
    “Can ye come and get me? I think ma water has broken”. “Okay,” says her dad. “Where are you ringing from?”. “Frae ma knickers tae ma feet!”.

    After announcing he’s getting married, a boy tells his pal he’ll be wearing a kilt at the ceremony. “And what’s the tartan?” asks his mate. “Oh, shae’ll be wearin’ a white ddress”.

    A Scotsman in London is having trouble phoning his sister from a telephone box. So he calls the operator who asks in a plummy (posh) voice: “Is there money in the box?”. “Naw, it’s only me,” he replies.

    What was the name of the first Scottish cowboy?
    Hawkeye The Noo.

  164. October 28, 2012 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    The title of the essay and the first sentence are a bit misleading. It doesn’t really argue that the “Aryan sense of fairness” is a weakness, only that expecting fairness from other races is foolish and makes us look weak.

    The problem is what Nietzsche called Socratism, the expectation that reason can be made to prevail and dissolve conflict in all circumstances. Socratism really took off with the Enlightenment.

    Unfortunately most of us are still caught in Enlightenment thinking (which is what the official propaganda of the USA teaches) and haven’t made the transition to a post-Darwin worldview where conflict among genepools is recognized as a fundamental fact that cannot be set aside through reasoned arguments.

    Our sense of fairness in itself is not a problem, if we recognize that we can only expect our concept of fairness to prevail where our race dominates. In fact I think that this used to be an argument for global White Supremacy.

  165. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 28, 2012 - 2:19 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:

    “I do find it curious, however, that you chose to categorize me alongside a self choseness.”

    Nothing is meant in that sense.

  166. Filthy Goyim's Gravatar Filthy Goyim
    October 28, 2012 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    The author writes “This foolish idea that seems to exist within the vast majority of our people’s minds – our Aryan sense of fairness, and the clearly stupid idea that Whites can expect to receive fairness and be treated honorably by non-Whites, if only we can manage to explain to them how they are being unfair to us.” merely exposes his own character flaws. To assume that a people behave in a kind of “fair” way is but for no other reason than to receive reciprocation for said act is insulting. Our behavior simply exemplifies our collective character. We do not behave this way for some odd external reasoning that the (clearly guessing) author concludes, but rather because that is who we are. I would expect the author to KNOW THIS should he actually be one if us. Yeah..

  167. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 28, 2012 - 2:02 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:

    Glick has a very good sense of what power is, how to get it, and how to use it. She’s also a great propagandist and good for boosting morale of her own.
    You seem to take exception to the idea. But you should read her over a period of time…she only writes once every week or two.

  168. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 28, 2012 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows: After doing a bit of research into Caroline Glick’s resume, I would have to disagree with your assertion.

    While Glick seems to be a world renown, highly polished B.S. artist and propagandist for the criminal State of Israel – I am merely a lonely White Southerner and full time truth teller who cares about his racial family and wishes to help restore their self-confidence and to help foster their desire to preserve themselves and to survive, so as to ensure that our beautiful White children can have a future that is free, bright, and prosperous.

    I do find it curious, however, that you chose to categorize me alongside a self choseness.

  169. Lombard's Gravatar Lombard
    October 28, 2012 - 1:09 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus:
    Yes this is generally a key problem RE: ‘naïveté/idealism’. In particular with NWEuro’s (which I’m not but have grown up around). Most have absolutely no perception of what enemy groups are thinking/scheming and are virtually defenseless against J machinations. Whilst a great quality to have in terms of nation/society building, what do you do once the parasite takes hold?

    For S/E Euros the situation is a little different. For them, Kmac’s books would be renamed ‘Jews for Dummies’, but the flipside being that they are more open to corruption/world weary. Either way, we’re in a deep hole.

    Now why isn’t there one single political entity willing to speak solely on ‘the reduction of J-power for ideological reasons’ without the usual caveats (eg. KKK, CI, white, black)? Not only would you give no reason for 98% of the population to disagree, but the attackers would be easily exposed. I say this not to suggest ‘teaming up’ with anyone, but that the only reason ‘whites’ are being destroyed is because the PuppetMasters are ‘artificially’ empowering its enemies. Once you attack the Brainbug, then whites will flourish naturally as they have always done.

    I really can’t understand why JT would even bother talking to students about racial differences like this would matter. Demographics mean nothing without Laws/Power (just look at a ME map where a billion Muslims can only launch bottle rockets on tiny Israel). If Whites are too afraid to go head to head with their real enemy, then they/we deserve to be swallowed by the hordes. I really don’t know how these ‘spoon-feeding’ type leaders are tolerated. Oh we need to say ‘globalists’ ‘leftists’ first before telling the truth… that is mental.

  170. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 28, 2012 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    @Luke:

    I’ve told you before Luke that you could be the Caroline Glick of the WN movement. We need a Caroline Glick.

  171. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    October 28, 2012 - 10:17 am | Permalink

    @Jan L: No, set your mind at ease. I am not Luke Farrell, but considering the fine work Mr. Farrell has contributed to the pro-White cause, I would consider it an honor to be mistaken for him.

    I also find myself very humbled by the decision by the editors of TOO to give my comment a place of such prominence on their outstanding website.

    Please accept my sincere appreciation and my personal thanks, both to the TOO editors and to the readers who decided to comment favorably.

    I even appreciated the unfavorable comments!

  172. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 28, 2012 - 10:00 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Why can’t we have Christianity that is compatible with some form of race realism?

    That would indeed be desirable, especially for Christian America. Unfortunately Christianity has exactly the opposite qualities a “race realist” ideology would require. And what are those?

    1) Taking the material world as real.
    2) Thinking in terms of biological groups (“races” ).
    3) Seeing the human races as different and unequal.
    4) Seeing the world as a battle field of competing biological groups.
    5) Thinking in terms of the survival and flourishing of the own biological group.
    6) Thinking in long terms ( centuries, millennia ).

    Christianity has quite the opposite qualities. To wit :

    1) Unlike the Indian religions Christianity doesn’t consider the material world as an illusion ( “maya” ) from which one has to be liberated, it sees the world as created by God but corrupted by man. Still it is wrong to strife for worldly advancement in this “fallen world” as long as it has not been redeemed by the “resurrection”, for which one has to wait.
    2) Christianity doesn’t think in terms of groups, let alone biological groups, it thinks in terms of individuals whose souls have to be be saved.
    3) Human races may be outwardly different, but inwarldly they have the same souls equally capable of salvation.
    4) The world may seem to be a battlefield, but the task of man is not to win the battle on that battlefield but to bring “peace on earth” .
    5) Moral is not what is good for the own group, it is exactly the opposite : what is good for the other. Christianity is therefore the most “other directed” ideology in the world.
    6) Civilizations develop in centuries, races develop in millennia, but Christianity expects the return of Christ, which will mean the end history, “any moment”.

    As you see it would require an impossible juggling trick to change Christianity into a group evolutionary strategy for the white man, but that is what Judaism actually is for the Jews, as prof MacDonald has demonstrated so well!

  173. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    October 28, 2012 - 9:48 am | Permalink

    @Sector 19: I agree with you . This Plutocratic class like to collect the best speciems of different peoples . Perhaps the Hollywood trash with their adopted litters is a ‘KeepUp with the Jones’ is reflection of this , their social climbing effort to say ‘Were just like you ! Wait for meeee ! ‘ .
    Perhaps the identity of the Plutocrates is just down what you do , how much money and how many languages which schools in Switzerland . Have you ever notice marriage advertisements in the Herald Tribune International ? This appears to be their angle . A plutocratic class who’s status is defined just like all humans : by beliefs and possessions . It is only the scale and the pettiness that condemns these cosmopolitans .
    Anyway for all their money and ‘brains’ they seem to lack common sense or the USA and Britain would be in a social meltdown at the moment . And other western countries no far behind .
    Those London riots must have been a dish of soup throw in their lap . Stupid fools , oblivious to the obvious , while playing with the world as if its their toy .

  174. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 28, 2012 - 8:19 am | Permalink

    Is there anything in Christianity that would proscribe a concern for your own people, your own race? It seems to me that the current view that somehow Christianity demands opening the floodgates of White countries to oceans of non-Whites is not supported by anything Christ said or by Church teachings.

    Christianity, as it has been taught, certainly allowed one to “privilege” his own family over others. Indeed it was expected. Ethnic groups and even races are just very extended families. So if being a good Christian involves spending most of my time, energy and money on the few kids I have (while giving a much smaller amount to the poor in general), then why can’t I as a Christian put my ethnic and racial group first, before others, the way I do my family?

    This doesn’t mean not helping other humans or working against them, just like supporting my family and neighborhood doesn’t mean I wish death for the people on the other side of town.

    Why can’t we have Christianity that is compatible with some form of race realism?

  175. Sector 19's Gravatar Sector 19
    October 28, 2012 - 7:53 am | Permalink

    It’s also important to note another mitigating factor which causes non-whites to be selected in to the establishment. The governing and professional classes — increasingly influenced by spontaneous, primarily Jewish-inspired nepotism — have gone to a global level, as Bowden once put it.

    The way they see the world — with their political and social sensibilities — is that there are always some portion of people in domestic minority communities or foreign lands that can be educated to serve the bureaucratic and professional needs of the upper class.

    Most of these people live in predominantly white “superzips”, as Charles Murray puts it, which are contiguous affluent colonies of the global jet set. People who’s sense of racial patronage is to invite the best and brightest of a certain race or nationality into their little white bubble so they can feel more ecumenical and progressive.

    They live most of their lives in that environment. And for many of them their only exposure to the rigors on non-affluent life is the opposite extreme in the Peace Corps or the U.N. or some NGO that regularly descends upon Central Africa in a vain attempt to mitigate natural and predictable equatorial chaos.

    They don’t even see us. We’re not even on their radar. All they understand is that some minorities are capable of their lifestyle and the ones that aren’t need their help. The middle class and mainstream white America is not on their agenda or within their perceived purview of responsibility. In many cases it’s quite the opposite.

    I have a hack theory. It’s probably been written about many-times-over by intellectuals and culture critics, etc, but the crux is that, in a ‘post-racial’ 21st century the terms ‘racism’, ‘xenophobia’, et. al. are vestigial words and concepts that have been unwittingly co-opted by elements of the upper class in order to define their own identity. They do so by configuring that the white lower classes are characterized by crude bigotry borne of ignorance and low sampling rates, which leads to intolerance, which can be solved by ‘education’, which will lead one to — bingo — the upper class.

    They are simply using those terms, probably unknowingly and reflexively, to define their ‘other’, which are ‘uneducated’ whites; Moral exhibitionism as a social survival strategy.

    In a supra-national culture void of ethnic or national identity, that’s probably the only thing left for them to use to define themselves morally as a ‘people’. The prior forms of identity are gone, but the need to define one’s own group belonging is still there, so it expresses itself through this sort of Huffington Post / MSNBC ‘post-racial’ morality play where blacks, women, homosexuals and minorities or every sort need to be saved from ignorant, brutish lower class whites.

    Somehow I get the feeling that this is intractable and isn’t going to end well for any of us.

  176. Alan's Gravatar Alan
    October 28, 2012 - 7:44 am | Permalink

    @Free Thinker: This is an interesting idea Free Thinker . I myself has reservations regarding the perfect nobleness of the European peoples . Some of our people are more romantic than sensible .

  177. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 28, 2012 - 6:44 am | Permalink

    @fender: Millions killed with malicious intent is not hyperbole, either. See Bacque’s Holy Smoke:
    http://is.gd/pG0vI0

  178. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    October 28, 2012 - 3:49 am | Permalink

    When I read these lines :
    “…..and then proceeds to try to appeal to a ‘sense of fairness’ that clearly does not exist within the genetic blueprint of non-Whites….”

    I have to wonder if it is just my age that allow a view to a time when open white racism were common .The NthAmerican experience is very different from most other European founded and populated countries .
    I found when I visited Canada 20 years ago there was an absurd effort to be polite , to the point of being irritating phoney and insipid . I was impossible to stand at the curb in Vancouver and not have lots twit slow down and encourage you to cross the road . As if they were trying to prove how ‘good’ they were . Perhaps the MSM had been indoctrinating Canadians for so long they had come to think of this as some sort of national identity “look were aren’t Americans , were nicer ! ” or something like this . And then there were the white teenage beggers ! I scolded a Canadian woman for getting out the purse “Don’t encourage them I said .” And a friend with her said yes I’m trying to tell her that . Then there was the white begger outside of a bank that I laughed at flourished a wade of cash at :-) . And act designed to anger them to action not sitting on backsides wearing the sorry look .

    Anyway I disagree with this idea of some sort of genetic fairness built into Europeans or at least I disagree that it has an inordinate effect of the origins of Democracy and social engagement .
    What about the the slave societies run by the ancients , they were European were they not ?
    Personally I think much of this consideration of ‘fairness’ comes from Christianity and humanism .The thinking of what the other person might be feeling .Once this idea is whipped by by MSM or churchies then it taps into the joy people feel of being better than the out group , those committing the sin .Throw into this righteous mix some World Banker money to support and promote these groups then you get a double pay : profitably righteous ! Look at the campaign against SAfrica .

    When one looks at how power was exercised in feudal Europe , I seems to me that the real driver of European Democratic institutions is not some sort of noble gene but in fact the opposite . It is the selfish gene or the jealous gene that Europeans get infuriated when they see others getting ahead of them and they won’t cooperate with those in power unless they are cut in . As always there are is subtle combinations that I don’t claim to comprehend involving the IQ and body chemistry that has allowed us to build the sort of civilization we have . And also the IQ population profile and balance that produces enough workers and thinkers .
    One only need look at the present day Germany to get the best idea of how a European country operates under the forces of logic and Christianity without the constant interference of social and economic charlatans .

    I make this criticism because I find we might be building a castle that will be very difficult to defend : the Noble Aristocrat model or justify in an open discussion in defense of Democracy which in the end is what will allow us to establish dynamically self supporting just society . Not the opposite a command economy , a slave state of quasi socialism ,corruption and nepotism .

  179. Jan L's Gravatar Jan L
    October 28, 2012 - 2:50 am | Permalink

    Is Luke the same man as Luke Farrell? Have Farrell and Shepard been released from prison? It not, shouldn’t they be?

  180. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 27, 2012 - 7:20 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus:

    They only resorted to reeducation after they had murdered all the “bad” (read: proud) Germans by the hundreds of thousands, possibly millions.

  181. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 27, 2012 - 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Fender, I find st. Einstein’s belief that the Germans could be “constrained or killed” but not reeducated very typical of his coethnics in the late stages of WWII. In the end, they settled for reeducation with psychoanalytic/Marxist brainwashing, funded by the occupying powers.

  182. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 27, 2012 - 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Another good example would be the Afrikaners and how their “harsh” methods used to subdue the natives aroused so much righteous indignation from white liberals in England and New York. Yet again, a European people employing practical measures in dealing with a hostile, violent outgroup was constrained by their cousins back in the ivory towers. Soon these naive fools will have nowhere to hide though. Talk about karma!

  183. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 27, 2012 - 7:00 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby: Mea culpa. I thought that Glaswegianism was like multiple sclerosis: it only gets worse as time goes on.

    Well, I’ve learned something new today! Thanks for the lesson, Bobby.

  184. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 27, 2012 - 6:21 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    I didn’t realize there was a difference between being anti-White and hating Whites.

    All anti-White resentment is based on jealousy of Whites. Even semitic anti-White hate is based on envy, in spite of jewish arrogance.

    They destroyed the Third Reich because they saw how beautiful it was, knew they themselves could never create such a civilization, and quickly ordered it to be destroyed as it pointed out the inherent superiority of Whites and the inadequacy of jews and the jew-slaves of America, USSR, UK etc.

    Anyway if this tool has identity issues and uses them as fuel for promoting policies that harm Whites (a people he hates and resents) then he’s actually being anti-Nietzschean.

  185. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 6:20 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Pierre, you might have missed the part where I mentioned that the appliance guy was only a kid when he came to the United States from Glasgow. He didn’t have any accent at all.

  186. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 27, 2012 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:

    I accept your apology.

  187. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 5:47 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Ha,haha,, it seems what you have described when it comes to experiencing the joys of televisions and technology in general, has become a common human experience. I get sick thinking of all the precious soil that will soon be further filled with toxic garbage. Humans may be intelligent as individuals, but as a collective entity, forget it. Even the Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius wrote, I paraphrase How greivously man has wounded the earth, (mining, fires set to kill enemies,etc.) and how little he cares to repair the damage he has done.

  188. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 27, 2012 - 5:38 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus: A brilliant comment; squarely on the money.

  189. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 27, 2012 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby: I hear you.

    After I became too ill to work about five years ago, my 20-year-old CRT set added insult to injury by breaking down. I was crushed to learn that it was cheaper to buy a plasma thingie (especially with two years to pay for it before interest cut in) than get my old set repaired. The plasma thingie has now been sitting in front of my cherished monster for three years, since at 150 pounds the latter is too heavy for me to move it.

    Likewise, my three no longer young top-of-the-line Beta VCRs, each with one or two hypercostly repair problems that has inactivated it, are stacked alongside their old CRT pal. This business of getting old and wearing out truly sucks, whether one is made of metal and plastic or flesh and blood.

  190. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus: Marcus, that was an excellent as well as true point, you made about the Spanish, Portaguese and other non-Northern Europeans where their outlook and attitude towards non-Europeans comes from, to wit, having been invaded over and over, and experiencing the wrath of those invaders.

  191. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    October 27, 2012 - 5:19 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon: A terrific comment; thank you. My reaction to our friend Bobby’s mention of the appliance guy being a Glaswegian was similar to yours, in that the first thought that popped into my head was, “If he was really from Glasgow, wouldn’t it take another Glaswegian to understand what he was saying?”

    The husband of a dear old publishing colleague of mine was an Edinburgh lad by birth and upbringing. One evening some years ago he and I were having a drink. I remarked at one point that one of my favorite imported TV programs had been Taggart, despite the fact that I couldn’t understand more than a quarter of the dialogue. He turned to me and said, “I’m surprised you got as much as a quarter. In Edinburgh it’s shown with subtitles.”

  192. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    October 27, 2012 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    We still need to convince Whites about the fairness of our position. I actually have to convince myself about it. Fairness is important for us, Whites. It’s not so important for anybody else, it may indeed seem to them a weakness.

    I think a way out would be to still try to convince fellow Whites about the fairness, but when a non-White comes around, and asks questions, just to tell him that we don’t want to convince him we’re fair, and that we don’t even understand why he asks us – we never ask questions to La Raza or ADL or AIPAC or New Black Panther Party or Nation of Islam leaders or anybody else like this. Telling them that we don’t want to convince them (and really not trying to convince them) while still trying to convince fellow Whites might do the trick. At least that is the general direction where we need to go.

  193. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Luke is 100 percent accurate on his estimation of the amount of anti-white venom spewed out in this country today, by various non-white groups. Many of these groups are well on their way to being fully organized in every way that’s important. I gave the example of the white blue collar leftist in my post above, as a further example of the amount of cluelessness, that continues to exist in every strata of white society. Every day whites are implicitly or explicityly warned about organizing for their benefit. This message is broadcast by radio, newspaper, television, and every other imaginable media, yet it goes over the heads of millions of clueless European-Americans, who cannot seem to grasp why it is that celebrating every pitifull minority “holiday” or acievement is done 24/7, while European-American holidays and acheivements are not only not celebrated, but denigrated, (Columbus day, Christmas, Washingtons birthday, THE MOON LANDING!! and on and on………

  194. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 4:58 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon: I don’t watch TV. I’m telling you what a blue collar guy with a successfull business in the U.S. recounted to me. Thanks for informing me on some of his exaggerations.

  195. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 4:55 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Absolutely not. I still have a primitive color cathode ray tube set, with a video tape recorder on top.

  196. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    October 27, 2012 - 3:55 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns: I might add that this arrogant, perverted pretension runs through all classes of Whites, but is especially egregious amongst the liberal White bourgeoisie. They have basically lost their sense of natural hierarchy, and, because of their racial denaturement and ideological toxification, buy into abnormal memes, and the most ludicrous abstractions. This is heavily reinforced by the cultural distortion that they constantly wallow in.

  197. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 27, 2012 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    “So this Indian lives in a White nation and hates Whites?”

    One could say that. Although he would probably disagree with your assertion that Canada is a White nation. And so would most (?) Canadians, unfortunately.

    Also, I’m not sure he sees himself as White. And I doubt he would say (or even believe) that he hates White people. He might have some inner conflict about his identity, and I suspect that is one of the things that fuels his anti-White values.

    “Why does he hate Whites?”

    When I wrote that “he is very anti-White”, I meant it the way Jason describes here @Jason Speaks

    “It is a person who feels compelled to break up, destroy, or corrupt White societies.”

    He seems passionately opposed to nationalism, and talks about the need for European nations to have more diversity — he doesn’t directly state that he hates White people.

  198. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 27, 2012 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Lombard, you are absolutely correct. Personal experiences have helped me realize that blacks take kindness for a weakness, the same is true for most other peoples, at least in their dealings with outgroups. Europeans are unique in their naïveté/idealism in dealings with outgroups. It seems this only became the norm around the 17th century and particularly in NW Europe. I’m guessing this is because they had less experience of intreractions with non-Europeans. The Spanish, Portuguese, Russians, etc. had been fighting for survival against various Muslim peoples, and were therefore much sterner in their dealings with non-Europeans.

  199. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 27, 2012 - 1:57 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    So this Indian lives in a White nation and hates Whites? Why does he hate Whites?

  200. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 27, 2012 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    It’s very frustrating and somewhat discouraging the way some White anti-White people still see themselves as iconoclasts or rebels… even though they are the ones maintaining and defending the status quo of the past half-century.

    Agreed.

    That is another example of arrogance.
    These arrogant fools are so caught up in themselves that they fail to see that they are complete contradictions.

  201. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 27, 2012 - 1:17 pm | Permalink


    This air of reverse class conciousness is part and parcel of the intellectually poisoned, mal-intoctrinated White mindset.

    Exactly; some class conciousness is a good thing when it is not reversed.
    But , these arrogant fools have actually been made to aspire towards miscegenation/decline.

  202. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 27, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: @Mike: @Richard:

    Thank you, Gentlemen. It seems I live in a sheltered world. It has been decades since I met serious people who hold or promote these positions. My recent experience has been with three kinds of people. Those whose job depends on supporting the status quo, genuine losers in life who defend the low life because they have descended into it, the blind and timid who never question what they are told.

  203. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 27, 2012 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

    @Junghans:


    @John hearns: You have hit upon one aspect of the White psyche that I have noticed as well, to wit: White snobbery. This trait has been twisted around by the Jewish powers-that-be, and their anti-White minions, into “moral concern” for the non-White ‘underdogs’, and exhibits a generally snooty condescension towards “red necks”, “White trash”, working class Whites, and the so-called “racists”.

    IMO, You have got it!

    This is exactly what it is- arrogance.
    You’ll note that the biggest snobs of present day are elitist white liberals who look down on anyone who does not tow their multi-culti secular humanist line. They are snobs who are “holier than thou”
    In the past, it was the same snobbery only their ancestor’s snobby little minds were not programmed in the same way as they are today.

    Make no mistake, these people are not fair minded, rather they are contemptible snivelling little self serving weasels who should be called as such and they should ostracized.

    Same snobs but different times , different snobbery.

  204. tombarnes's Gravatar tombarnes
    October 27, 2012 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

    ‘Fairness’ is a function of money. I think that whites are ‘fair’ because they generally feel well-off.
    Whites have 20 times the assets of blacks.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0726/Wealth-gap-widens-Whites-net-worth-is-20-times-that-of-blacks

    Since they feel well-off the priority is on being polite and nice and fair. The priority is on being liked, not on winning. However if you see your kind as unfairly oppressed(like the poor surrounded Tribe) you do not care about being liked you just want to win. As for other minorities like Blacks and Hispanics when they are told(really ‘shown’ on sitcoms and the news) every day that they are oppressed, they do not care about being liked. I lived in a fringe neigh(white guys say ‘neigh’ not ‘hood’) for 22 years and I learned that specifically for blacks, projection of menace is the only way to be left alone on the streets. You have to look like a badass merely to be left alone. Whites have been living in a bubble(called 1960s America) and they developed this anti-evolutionary habit of wanting to be liked. It might work in the upper classes but it does not work in the regular world.
    When whites are 40% of the electorate(now they are 70%) and have 80% of the wealth, watch out! In 40 Years the majority of minorities will vote themselves living space in your grandchildren’s backyard and extra bedrooms.

  205. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 27, 2012 - 11:31 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: That’s a very interesting point my little Jwason. Thank you so much for misdirecting yet another thread. Actually, your input is totally irrelevant to the dialogue currently underway … hey … but don’t let me rain on your Talmudic parade. We regulars at TOO are already so much in awe of your esteemed knowledge of all things in the entire Universe. Isn’t that so? So much so, that we are twuly and twuly honoured to have such a pretty ADL boy as you living here 24/7 on this website. But frankly, I’d say your bib needs a good wash.

  206. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    October 27, 2012 - 11:23 am | Permalink

    @John hearns: You have hit upon one aspect of the White psyche that I have noticed as well, to wit: White snobbery. This trait has been twisted around by the Jewish powers-that-be, and their anti-White minions, into “moral concern” for the non-White ‘underdogs’, and exhibits a generally snooty condescension towards “red necks”, “White trash”, working class Whites, and the so-called “racists”.

    This air of reverse class conciousness is part and parcel of the intellectually poisoned, mal-intoctrinated White mindset. This is the result of, among other things, the racial/ideological reprogramming of Whites by the mind altering, alien controlled media, and the self-same, corrupted educational system. Essentially, the abnormal has been ‘normalized’, by an embedded, well camouflaged, nation-wrecking, non ‘Gentile’ out group. An artificially induced, malignant intellectual contagion that is rotting White civilization to its core.

    Kmac has written about some of these propensities of White pathology, where afflicted Whites think that they have achieved social status and “moral respectability” by joining the self-deprecating, masochistic attack upon their own people and culture. This is pure unadulterated, Anglo-White credulity run riot, to say the least, and that’s why it needs to be talked about.

  207. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 27, 2012 - 10:14 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    @Jason Speaks:

    Good comments.

    It’s very frustrating and somewhat discouraging the way some White anti-White people still see themselves as iconoclasts or rebels… even though they are the ones maintaining and defending the status quo of the past half-century.

  208. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 27, 2012 - 10:07 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    “Not sure who you’re talking about, so I can’t comment. By Indian do you mean actual Indian or the aboriginals of North America?”

    When he used the term “White Indian”, I think he meant the country. He’s very knowledgeable about Eastern religions and has been meditating for many years, even though he’s only in his mid-30′s. He thinks. He says he’s not positive how old he is.

    (Maybe White people could benefit from different kinds of meditation.)

    I don’t know if he has ever actually lived in India. These days he lives in some rural part of Canada, I think.

    “Nietzsche was not a White nationalist but his elitist philosophy absolutely destroys everything the PC, multicultural left spews at us: all the nonsense about equality, fairness, guilt, etc.”

    I haven’t tried to read any of Nietzsche’s books, and I don’t know that at this point in my life I’d be able to really understand him. But I’d like to read him someday. I see his name a lot. He seems to be one of the most popular philosophers of all time.

  209. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 27, 2012 - 9:17 am | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:

    The first slaves in North America were WHITE and not black.

    No, the first slaves in North America were Native Americans. Many Native American tribes practiced some form of slavery long before the Europeans arrived.

    Native American groups frequently enslaved war captives. How long this practice preceded the modern arrival of White men is unknown, but one can safely assume it had been around for thousands of years.

  210. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 27, 2012 - 8:16 am | Permalink

    @Lombard: The first slaves in North America were WHITE and not black. They disembarked in 1619 in Jamestown, Virginia. Many were convicts, others the residue of wars in Europe. A predominantly White slave population worked all the plantations in the Colonies for almost a century.

    A law change in the State of Massachusetts allowed white servants the opportunity to buy their freedom and live equally among other whites.

    However, these new laws did not apply to Blacks. By 1755, the thirteen colonies all legally recognized slavery as an officially recognized institution.

    The first black slaves entered the Southern States much later, through the Carolinas. The first batch had been purchased at auction from a bankrupt sugar plantation in either Barbados or the Bahamas (I forget which). All the plantations in the Caribbean had been worked by Blacks from the very beginning, and a large number of those were Jew owned. That is the dichotomy you need to understand.

    The history of slavery in Brazil is entirely different and bears little relation to that which actually transpired in the USA. So, don’t allow yourself to be led down any blind alleys by ignorant Communists and Obama supporters.

    Thanks to its English-Caribbean colonial roots, South Carolina employed many more African slaves than did North Carolina. Numbers are not easily obtained prior to 1700, but in a 1708 census there were approximately 3,000 African slaves in South Carolina – it is estimated that there were less than 500 in North Carolina at that same time. At the end of the Lords Proprietor’s rule in 1729, South Carolina counted 40,000 African slaves, a full two-thirds of their entire population; North Carolina had 6,000 African slaves out of a total population of 36,000, or, one-sixth. Both colonies increased their numbers each year until slavery was finally abolished in 1865.

    Suggest you quote them this comment in its entirety.

  211. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    October 27, 2012 - 8:04 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Useful idiots idefines a lot of them. Time servers is another useful phrase. Making it in the main stream media means doing what it takes to stay employed. The worst of them are the Puppet Masters, the manipulators are deadly effective criminals. Their attitude to ethnic intration in Israel is different. I am sure we have all taken that point.

  212. Wilbern Sprayberry's Gravatar Wilbern Sprayberry
    October 27, 2012 - 8:03 am | Permalink

    Luke’s comment is flawed in one important respect. He apparently thinks it is fruitless to appeal to the sense of fair play and point out double standards, not merely to minorities, but even to an all white audience. Wrong! For many racially unconscious whites, that is precisely the best way to start waking them up. Jared Taylor knows this. Do you really think he wants to address non-white or racially mixed audiences and implore them to become more fair-minded? Of course not, but the price of making a speech just about anywhere in the USA these days (and especially on campus) is the racially mixed audience.

    At Towson, the aggressive Black Student Union deliberately jammed the room, arriving hours before the speech, and kept out most of the white students who wanted to attend. (Many, probably most, of the blacks in the room were not from Towson at all, but from black colleges in the region, like Howard, brought in to stifle Jared’s message.) I believe Preston Wiginton, the veteran activist who arranged the A&M speech, made sure this didn’t happen there.

    At any rate, for those who want another view of Jared Taylor’s remarks at A&M, I invite you to MY comment on the AR comment thread! (He said, self-promotingly.)

  213. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 27, 2012 - 7:45 am | Permalink

    @Bobby: Never pay too much attention to a Scot from Glasgow!

    [Thailand] was a crossroads between the East and the West

    The hell it is. Check a map of the world! If Thailand is a “cross-roads”, then Australia is at its centre.

    He aslo mentioned that you could get layed by inumerable girls anywhere [in Thailand]

    Many of those girls are ugly as hell, while a sizeable percentage are actually males made up to look like girls. You’d find better looking women to lay in Dubai than you would in Thailand.

    … modern in ways way beyond the U.S.

    I’d say Burma or even Tanzania are equally “modern in ways way beyond the U.S.” At least you can get to eat real food, not some manufactured and pre-packaged gunk. The U.S. is a total basket case (with an oversized military) punctuated by obscene wealth coveted by obscene and obese people.

    He also mentioned that there were millions of non-Asians there from nations like England, Germany, France, Holland, Sweden,etc.etc. He said they consisted of people from every age bracket including old men.

    Sounds to me like your Gorbals chap was describing the Philippines. Actually, the number of foreigners resident in Thailand is closer to “seventy, or perhaps one hundred thousand” … and certainly not in the millions!

    These days, there are tens of thousands of (white) westerners living in all sorts of places, including China. All Amerikans with money and contacts have already prepared to shift their asses to South America. Boy Bush has his hacienda in Paraguay all lined up. The more desperate are looking to Canada to provide a refuge.

    Bobby my brother. You need to turn off your TV and read (or travel) more. Sorry I could not have been more moderate in my response to you. Don’t take it personally.

  214. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    October 27, 2012 - 5:36 am | Permalink

    @Bobby: Big-screen TV? ☻

    @ Luke: Fairness, when abused, can give rise to a powerful sense of outrage. Even though I feel his strategy flawed, the discourtesy extended to Taylor makes my blood boil.

  215. mark's Gravatar mark
    October 27, 2012 - 4:50 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Richard wrote:
    “You say that seeking respectability is for wimps and cowards. I don’t know how true that is. And I don’t think that it takes a lot of strength or courage to write tough-sounding comments anonymously on the internet.”

    Who said anything about getting respect on the Internet? That’s not even possible.

    I’m talking about getting respect in social gatherings of a racial political nature, in university classrooms, and in confrontations with the enemy in any public place.

    This can happen by being overtly racial, using certain abrasive terminology and not apologizing for it, and generally assuming an “in your face” demeanor when dealing with the enemy. That’s the only thing the enemy understands.

  216. Lombard's Gravatar Lombard
    October 27, 2012 - 4:12 am | Permalink

    Blacks, like some animals are excellent at detecting weakness/fear. If the speaker was prepared to name the head of the beast, instead of blaming the ‘slaves’ HE himself brought over (in their eyes), and totally shaped the environment and culture of these same slaves, well then they might at least have some interest in what he says.

    Their IQ’s may be low but they (intuitively) know enough to see that Whites are still the dominant power in all affairs. Yes the Jews are White, in case you didn’t notice.

  217. protorenaissance's Gravatar protorenaissance
    October 27, 2012 - 4:10 am | Permalink

    @Gregor: What a perfect , incisive thinking on that wet rag thrown against one’s face whenever “anti-semitic” accusation is used! I have been thinking around it and tried to come up with clever answers but this is the best I have ever seen.It must be wonderful to operate such clear-thinking mind.
    Perhaps, however the superior advice is not seeking understanding or agreement at all.Do we need permission to reassert our rights to self-determination?Do we really need to be “understood”? Seems that whenever one seeks understanding almost too much is already given in advance,like assuming that such understanding is really possible or needed and that our interlocutor or adversary is equal.Such understanding if ever possible would mean that we want to negotiate a permit to live in a broom-closet of OUR HOME.

  218. BIGMO's Gravatar BIGMO
    October 27, 2012 - 3:14 am | Permalink

    The problem with this article is its hard to sustain given American history. Fairness does not come to mind. Its opposite extremes that comes to mind. most Blacks or Native Americans did not see fairness or moral universalism. Nobody will take that serious..

    In the past race was everything, now race is nothing. Both are wrong. This is a more realistic argument.

  219. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 27, 2012 - 2:13 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Maybe some examples of Anti-Whites would help flesh it out.

    Ted Kennedy is an obvious one. He worked to pass immigration reform in 1965, lying about its impact, and working to expand immigration even as he saw it was changing the “demographic balance” of the country.

    Robert Wright, the evolutionary psychologist, celebrates the end of the White majority. He has talked about how thrilled he is to see children inculcated in “racial tolerance” (which is just a code phrase for training White children to embrace their own racial destruction). On many occasions, he’s made it clear that it is middle-class Whites who need to be diminished in numbers and disempowered.

    Chris Matthews has been demonizing Whites who try to defend themselves as Whites, no matter how mildly. He has perfected the art of shaming Whites for even the hint of pro-White sentiment.

    I have known liberal White women who get a visible thrill from denigrating White men and slandering their own White ancestors. Unfortunately, quite a few female teachers fall in this category.

    It’s Gen. Wesley Clark, who said there was no room in Europe for an ethnically homogeneous society. Is that UN representative who just a few months ago stated that all countries in Europe must be forced to be more heterogeneous in terms of race. In my book, it is also people like John McCain who went out of his way to push an amnesty bill that didn’t even help him politically. Frankly, most Republican and conservative pundits fall in this category today. People like Rush Limbaugh who lecture callers on why they must embrace more immigration are Anti-White in practice.

    Ultimately, stars like Tom Hanks, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, and Ron Howard fall into this category. They go out of their way to throw their full weight behind Anti-White causes. And note that all these White anti-Whites are very eager to embrace these policies. Whether it is the girl in college who rails against “White privilege” or the young man that joins some antifascist group (which are openly Anti-White), they are not reluctant devotees of the cause. They cannot be excused as mere puppets. They hold moral responsibility for what they have worked so hard to promote.

  220. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 27, 2012 - 2:06 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    First, let me be clear about what an Anti-White is: An Anti-White is a person who specifically works against the interests of White people because they are White. It is a person who feels compelled to break up, destroy, or corrupt White societies. It does not mean that they walk around drawing up plans to execute White people; rather it is the type of person who is infuriated to find an all-White neighborhood and feels compelled to destroy it (or bring “diversity” as they would call it). Notice they never feel the need to bring diversity to Chinatown or Detroit or Japan – and that is not a minor point. Their animus is only aroused when they see flourishing White communities.

    A White Anti-White is a White person who meets the above definition. This is my own view and I don’t speak for anyone else. We are not in a situation in which all the Whites are on one side, loyal to each other, with all the Anti-Whites on another side and a part of some other race. There are plenty of White Anti-Whites. They are, to be blunt, traitors.

  221. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 1:45 am | Permalink

    @fender: What I particularly liked and understood immediatley concerning Nietzsche’s disdain towards most of the moral concepts he wrote about, was his recognition of how they are often used by outright hypocrits and politicians to exploit others.

  222. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 27, 2012 - 1:34 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Not sure who you’re talking about, so I can’t comment. By Indian do you mean actual Indian or the aboriginals of North America?

    Nietzsche was not a White nationalist but his elitist philosophy absolutely destroys everything the PC, multicultural left spews at us: all the nonsense about equality, fairness, guilt, etc.

  223. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 1:14 am | Permalink

    @Bobby: Apologies I meant I had a major appliance “installed”, not replaced.

  224. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    October 27, 2012 - 1:13 am | Permalink

    I had a new major appliance replaced at my home today. The white man who arrived to do the job, was a pleasant enough fellow and after a while we talked a little politics. He told me he came to the U.S. as a young kid in the sixties from Glasgow Scotland. He then went on to tell me that we have to get rid of racism and everything would be fine. Then he mentioned to me that he had gone to some trips to Thailand and how it being a Buddhist nation, had “gentle and peacefull” people there. He aslo mentioned that you could get layed by inumerable girls anywhere, and that it was a crossroads between the East and the West, modern in ways way beyond the U.S. He also mentioned that there were millions of non-Asians there from nations like England, Germany, France, Holland, Sweden,etc.etc. He said they consisted of people from every age bracket including old men. I had heard of this stuff, but being a traveler whos destination was always a European nation, or the different states in the U.S., I didn’t realize that what he told me was so extensive.

    At any rate, this hardworking blue collar white guy, was clearly a flaming leftist, who felt that minorities and the poor were being given a bad break, and that the corporations and banks were mainly to blame. Now it’s not that I disagreed with some of his contentions, but what surprised me was his absolute and firm conviction to leftist philosophy and a total lack of racial awareness.

  225. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    October 27, 2012 - 12:04 am | Permalink

    I’m not so sure that it is only that whites are ” fair minded” although that is a big part if it.

    I think that our enemy has used whites propensity towards arrogance by creating a sense of snobbery around being
    “color blind” It is just a change in what is seen as being superior and therefore self aggrandizing . Snobbery of the past was about class status and breeding and wealth, etc, and now it is about being “morally superior” and “color blind”.
    Pride comes before the fall.

  226. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 26, 2012 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Hi Fender

    You (and other pro-White people) have mentioned Nietzsche before.

    I admit that I know very little about him or his ideas.

    But one of the smartest people I’ve seen on the internet is a huge Nietzsche fan, and he happens to be very anti-White. He calls himself a “White Indian”, so I assume he has some mixed heritage?

    I say “smart” because he is probably an actual genius. I know that word (genius) is overused and applied to Hollywood film directors or pop musicians, but this anti-White guy seems to be an actual genius. And only rarely do I use that word. Hardly ever.

    It’s not just my opinion that he’s a genius. I’ve seen other extraordinarily smart people praising him. (None of those anti-White people seem wise, though. There is probably an important difference between wisdom and knowledge.)

    Anyway, I think it’s interesting that you both cite Nietzsche as a major influence in your thinking.

  227. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 26, 2012 - 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Alice, I agree whites tend to be much more idealistic and altruistic. White “celebrities” waste far more time and money on pet causes, like starving Africans, than their black or other counterparts. We definitely prefer to “help” the idealized “other” instead of our own. However I find this hard to reconcile with some elements of the white past: the caste system (possibly introduced by indo-Europeans), large scale slavery, etc. OTOH I guess it is significant that only European societies abolished slavery out of their own volition (it is alive and well elsewhere despite our misguided efforts).

  228. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    October 26, 2012 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    I certainly agree with most of the points that Luke makes about trying to placate and reason with non-Whites, it’s tomfoolry at best. Taylor’s efforts at Towson State were indeed wasted, since the Negroes evidently packed the hall in order to put another White man “on the run”, and there is simply no “reasoning” with such a troupe. However, if the audience is essentially White, (and judging by the naive voices of the Q&A feedback, it likley was), then Taylor’s approach to his audience in Texas had merit. He essentially pointed out the absurdities and the duplicity of the “diversity” fantasy to an impressionable group of credulous young Whites who needed, likely in the worst way, to hear the message of White advocacy. Public speeches definitely have to be tailored to the particular audience. The grovelling and genuflecting in the Plasmagoord case is instructive of the wrong approach, which Luke correctly nails.

  229. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 26, 2012 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    @Bernard Penner:

    “They do not play fair. But…geting whites to see and under stand this fact is very difficult.”

    Nietzsche should be required reading for all Whites, or at least Whites who are involved in pro-White politics.

    The vast majority of Whites think that there’s a universal moral code that need to be adhered to. Other races don’t believe in this, so they devote themselves to increasing their own power. Whites meanwhile, spend all of their energy keeping that universal moral code alive, and it kills them.

    Unfortunately a lot of stupid leftists use that as an excuse to become amoral nihilists when that’s exactly what Nietzsche spoke against. The point is that if there’s no universal moral code then the superior man would devote his energies to increasing his own power. This same principle applies just as well to races.

  230. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 26, 2012 - 11:23 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Hi Mark

    The last part of your comment is addressed to me, or at least you used what I wrote as a starting point.

    Maybe what you write is true, or partially true. Either way, I think I understand what you’re saying.

    But I want to clarify that I wasn’t really suggesting that we Whites should try to please non-Whites. (And I’m not sure that respectability is incompatible with being feared.)

    I was mostly trying to say that if Whites want to be respected, which seemed to be what Luke was encouraging, then it makes sense that we need to first become respectable. A lot of Whites don’t appear to respect themselves.

    And I acknowledge that even if we Whites do become respectable, that doesn’t necessarily mean non-Whites will show us any respect. So, again, I understand your point.

    I thought my suggestions were just plain good advice anyway — most Whites could benefit from better eating habits and being more selective about the things they watch/read.

    You say that seeking respectability is for wimps and cowards. I don’t know how true that is. And I don’t think that it takes a lot of strength or courage to write tough-sounding comments anonymously on the internet.

    I don’t want to be misunderstood — there is a part of me that senses that some of your comments contain some important truth in them. And in some of your comments you write things that few, if any, of the other commenters are willing to write.

  231. Aquilax's Gravatar Aquilax
    October 26, 2012 - 10:55 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    “Whites have moral AIDS.”

    Moral aids is probably the best term, it’s the same one I use that I read from Bruno Mégret’s book, “The Flame” (he was the VP of the Front National during the 90′s), he calls it more precisely “social aids”.

    Here is my personal translation of a short paragraph that sums it all:

    “Cette maladie, le cosmopolitisme, a des effets aussi pernicieux que dévastateurs. En instaurant un véritable culte de l’autre, en accueillant sans réserve comme un bienfait systématique tout ce qui vient de l’étranger, elle agit sur la nation à la façon du sida sur le corps humain: elle détruit les défenses immunitaires, celles qui justement permettent à l’organisme de se protéger des corps étrangers indésirables et nocifs.”

    This disease, cosmopolitanism, produces both pernicious and devastating effects. By implementing a true worship of the Other, by welcoming without any reserve like a systematic good anything that is foreign, it acts on the nation like AIDS on the human body : it destroys all the defense mechanisms, those who are actually supposed to protect bodies from undesirable and harmful foreign bodies.

  232. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 26, 2012 - 10:34 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus:
    I wonder if the concept of reciprocity is not more deeply ingrained in us. I think pointing out all the ways in which respect and tolerance have not been reciprocal make a powerful argument to our folks.

  233. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    October 26, 2012 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Who are the anti-white whites? How do you define them?

  234. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    October 26, 2012 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    @Richard the Lionheart:

    You nailed it. Of all the enemies we have, it is those Whites who are Anti-White that represent the greatest threat, because they give cover to all the others.

    I suspect we need to identify exactly what the White Anti-White is like. Anti-White statements are made all the time and we don’t recognize it as such. For example, it is virtually impossible to graduate from high school without writing an essay on how “miserable” your White ancestors were. This simple and obvious fact is overlooked by most Whites who blithely send their kids to school to be indoctrinated. And the parents ignore the blatantly Anti-White teacher, basically excusing her as “good hearted” but misguided creature.

    There is nothing good-hearted about her.

  235. Bernard Penner's Gravatar Bernard Penner
    October 26, 2012 - 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Good essay, and very true. They do not play fair. But…geting whites to see and under stand this fact is very difficult. I work with minorities and I was initially stunned at the level of anti-white hate they spew, without the slightest bit of embarrassment or reserve. The jews have convinced the browns and blacks that whites are demons and deserve to die. I say, by any means necessary and take no prisoners. THAT is the way you get things done.

  236. Richard the Lionheart's Gravatar Richard the Lionheart
    October 26, 2012 - 8:05 pm | Permalink

    I put all anti-whites in this group, including the most damaging of them, white anti-whites.

    I am a pro white and do not seek the permission or approval of anti-whites on anything. Anti-whites want the genocide of our race. The only thing they are worthy of is disgust and contempt.

  237. mark's Gravatar mark
    October 26, 2012 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Luke wrote:
    “So, what’s the point behind my mention of the Texas A&M speech and other speeches made by Taylor? It is this: When a White spokesman stands up in front of an audience, whether it is populated by all Whites or by a combination of Whites and non-Whites and then proceeds to try to appeal to a ‘sense of fairness’ that clearly does not exist within the genetic blueprint of non-Whites and when that White spokesman tries to point out the unfairness that goes along with this hypocritical double standard – he or she may as well be barking at the moon.”

    Our enemies need to fear us like never before. Anything we desire will spring from that.
    ***************************************************************
    @Gregor
    “Recently someone I know (K.) was asked by a friend of his (C.) if he was an “anti-semite”. K. was somewhat flummoxed over how to deal with this. K. said to me that he didn’t “hate” “semites”,…..”

    A better answer to give would be: “Yes, I am an anti-semite. What about it??
    ***************************************************************
    @Richard
    Richard said:

    “In order for that to happen, White people need to become respectable.”

    NOT TRUE. Seeking respectability is for wimps and cowards. We need to be feared by the enemy. The enemy understands fear and violence better than anything else. The enemy needs to be deathly afraid to move into White neighborhoods, to try to impose himself into any White issue, to try to integrate White schools, to look at White women, to attend White functions, to oppose White separation.

  238. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    October 26, 2012 - 7:00 pm | Permalink

    I wouldn’t call it Aryan fairness, remember the Aryans established maybe the most “unfair” social system in the world in India. What we call fairness, really misguided universalism, probably dates to the Enlightenment.

  239. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    October 26, 2012 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Luke’s name is now under the official author archive (on the right side of the screen). That seems like an honor.

    I’m going to include a couple quotes from the article and then comment on them.

    “Yesterday, I was watching the latest speech by Jared Taylor who was invited to speak at Texas A&M University a few days ago.”

    I doubt Jared Taylor would be allowed to speak at the university if he didn’t make an effort to appear fair and respectful toward other races.

    (I know Luke wasn’t really suggesting that he would.)

    “What we need from our racial competitors – is respect, and perhaps even a little dose of fear to go along with that respect – because, after all, in the third world that these minorities belong in – fear and respect go hand in hand.”

    In order for that to happen, White people need to become respectable.

    We should be careful about what we allow into our bodies and minds. Which means being selective about the food we eat, and trying to stay away from intoxicants. We should also be selective about the t.v. shows, books, and movies that we watch/read.

    Whites could also benefit from being more careful about what they do and say around other Whites and non-Whites, which includes internet interaction.

    At least those are some of my ideas about how to become more respectable. I haven’t given it a lot of thought.

    Anyway, I sense a lot of truth in this article, even though I probably disagree with it to some extent.

    Luke has an unmistakable talent for writing comments (and now an article) that are easy to read.

    I hope anyone reading this has a good weekend.

  240. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    October 26, 2012 - 4:38 pm | Permalink

    I agree with what Luke says but to what extent is he suggesting how we must be WHEN we have recovered significant power, and what extent does what he says POINT to ways in which significant power can be realized from our current condition.
    I would argue that our time, our era, our generations of awake whites, are charged with the latter problem, not the former.

  241. Hooper's Gravatar Hooper
    October 26, 2012 - 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Excellent post, Luke. And in a roundabout way, another argument for why the entire political philosophy of the post-Enightenment West — rule of law, social contract, democracy,etc. — is utterly breaking down in our current day pluralistic societies. We keep thinking they will play by the rules and are saddened and sent into increasingly virulent bouts of penitent self-flagellation for our historical sins when they simply game the system. And it’s the most natural thing for them to do.

    Do the Swedes and French or English really believe that they will soon inherit the coveted ‘beloved minority’ status and receive equally advantageous treatment from their third-world overlords?

  242. Stan Hess's Gravatar Stan Hess
    October 26, 2012 - 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Luke, I believe, Ann Coulter of Fox(Faux) News says liberals(whites) desire “to be nice”. I agree with that . Being nice is being an ethnic co dependent ( putting the needs of other ethnic groups ahead of their own). I like to refer to the Koshah Privilege networks as ” The Manhattan Borough Networks”. They (the media.. MBN) are so boroughish, so bourgeois, so sub rural). If you want to see the Afronic urbanity that prowl the streets of Manhattan between the NY Port Authority Bus Terminal, The NY Times Building, and Times Square at night, check out the racist black supremacist men who racially harangue white tourists on the so-called Great White Way”. I was a victim of that one night. Ohh, that is “Manhattan Koshah free speech”.

    Whatevah…OK, enough of my Solutrean shtict/pilpul.

    The diaspora of what I refer to as World Eury is very diverse, richly textured , and vibrant. We do have different strategies towards our liberation from Big Koshah; however, we do go have a beer and wine toast after our family affairs.

    Jared Taylor, RAMZPAUL, Dr. Kevin MacDonald, Dr. Virginia Abernethy, etc. etc. etc. all have different approaches towards achieving self determination. They are all valid.

    I personally recycle P.C. to make it a transmission of change for us. European American Heritage Month, no wars for Israel, white control of the white community, secure our borders not Israels, full employment for whites , reparations to the white community for Banker Holodomor Wars, etc. etc. etc.

    Besides these slogans, I endorse hiring self respecting whites to do home repair, fix my car, doctoring.. When I vote .. I vote A3P or the best white candidate. I voted absentee for Merlin Miller and Dr. Virginia AbernerthyI last week. I do not subscribe to the local Zionist newspaper.
    Be tough to our adversaries and nice to our family.

    Stan Hess.. aka Stanislav.. aka Stanistan

  243. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    October 26, 2012 - 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Andrew Brons of the British National Party was interviewd by the BBC, a very hostile source which is getting its comeuppance as I write. The Beeb accused him of being a racist.
    Andrew’s response was:-
    Racism is a Marxist construct.

    The Beeb had no answer. They could not admit to being tarred with that brush.

  244. Bon, From the Land of Babble's Gravatar Bon, From the Land of Babble
    October 26, 2012 - 2:20 pm | Permalink

    As an anonymous wise commenter once told me:

    Your enemies know your psychology better than you do and have used it to great effect against you.

    Nice work, Luke.

    Bon

  245. J.J. WHALEN's Gravatar J.J. WHALEN
    October 26, 2012 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    GOOD ARTICLE. SHORT AND TO THE POINT.

  246. fender's Gravatar fender
    October 26, 2012 - 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Whites have moral AIDS.

    Imagine an advanced army that, before going into battle against a technologically inferior enemy, gives them all the weapons they themselves have. Then the battle happens and they get slaughtered by an enemy that should have been easy to defeat.

    That’s what we’re doing.

    But then again it’s pointless talking about this because we don’t even run our own countries. Jews do. Until we regain control of our nations there’s no point in trying to diagnose internal faults when we face external threats.

    As for Jared Taylor, I doubt he expected the Towson speech to be attended by dozens of future welfare recipients and NU graduates. He was probably counting on a mostly-White audience.

  247. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    October 26, 2012 - 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Right ON Luke!

    NEVER try to explain, never apologize, and never expect anti-Whites to ever see your points, especially those about “fairness”.

    The ONLY approach when dealing with them is to ATTACK back. The best attack is to accuse them and call them Anti-White, thus putting them on the defensive.

    Recently someone I know (K.) was asked by a friend of his (C.) if he was an “anti-semite”. K. was somewhat flummoxed over how to deal with this. K. said to me that he didn’t “hate” “semites”, but at the same time he certainly didn’t see them as a part of his own people, and had noticed that most of them had no loyalty to him or “our” people, Whites.

    I told K. that it would not work to even try to “explain” his way out of a question like that, and that the very question … “are you an anti-semite”… was itself an attack. The only way out is to flip the script and attack back.

    I suggested saying, “C., the question you ask isn’t the question to be asked. The proper question is ‘Are you anti-White?’. By centering the area of concern on “semites” and whether someone might be “anti-semitic”, you assume that I, a White, have some obligation to be concerned about “semitic” interests. I have no such concern. Your question pre-supposes that “semites” are beyond critique, and that nobody can ever have an idea a “semite” doesn’t approve of. You are making a claim for “semite” supremacy! By asking me to place “semitic” concerns above my own, you are revealing that you are anti-White. Now, please explain why you are anti-White, and don’t use swindle-speak anti-White terms like “anti-semite” to interrogate me.”

  248. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    October 26, 2012 - 12:57 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: I wish to affirm FR’s timely comment. Luke gets ***** five stars in my book.
    Ref: previous observation.

  249. Stogumber's Gravatar Stogumber
    October 26, 2012 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    Yes, but – the aim isn’t just that non-whites “approve” or “permit” whites to attend to their peculiar interests or promote their own happiness.
    The aim is that both sides “agree” over both sides’ right to promote their own happiness.
    Agreement is always difficult, and even if groups have come to a formal agreement, there will always be segments of people within the groups who don’t subscribe to it. On the other hand – agreements have been done, and they have been done in non-white cultures, too.
    The idea that only force or violence works – that’s a belief system, not pure experience.

  250. norman S's Gravatar norman S
    October 26, 2012 - 11:27 am | Permalink

    Blacks and all other races are racist in their voting but only whites will vote beyond their race, This can be seen in the last election but the media continually calls whites racist. The sad truth is this is not true

  251. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    October 26, 2012 - 11:21 am | Permalink

    I see that Luke’s comment has acquired the status of an article. I would like to state that that is well deserved. Nowhere have I seen a basic truth so well expressed. 100% approval!

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