A Party of Plutocrats Has No Future

Hadding Scott


The Ideal vs. the Possible

First I want to explain that White advocacy and electoral politics are two distinct matters. There is some relationship between the two, but they are different with their own guiding principles (especially in this winner-take-all electoral system, which rewards inscrutable blandness). To the extent that one is guided by the principles of the other, it is done less than optimally. Electoral politics must be approached with a readiness to accept some tolerable compromise rather than demanding the full realization of an ideal: “Politics is the art of the possible,” said Bismarck. But at the same time the ideal has to be maintained.

White advocacy and general political discussion must not be degraded to the level of rhetoric that is calculated to win an election. We must not internalize the limits of electoral politics as the limits of our own thinking and discussion. Those of us who might choose to engage in the grubby business of electoral politics must not become creatures of this corrupting system but remain White people with White interests, despite whatever compromises might be required by circumstances.

By maintaining consciousness of the difference between what is actual and what is ideal, our people should always realize that whatever they have gained is not all that they want, so that progress will not stop and will not be lost through a relaxation of efforts.

How the Republican Party has Failed and Succeeded and Failed Again

Many White people, especially in the South, support the Republican Party because they perceive it as the Implicitly White Party. This affiliation of racially conscious White people with the Republican Party was induced by the so-called Civil Rights movement, which had its main base of support in the Democratic Party. The South had always been solidly Democratic until the Truman Administration and its support for “Civil Rights.” This provoked a rift in the Democratic Party in the form of the short-lived States’ Rights Democratic Party, or “Dixiecrats.” A decisive shift occurred when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed. That was when Senator Strom Thurmond became a Republican. Many other Southern segregationists, like future senator Jesse Helms, followed.

Before the Solid South turned Republican, the Republicans had been known as the party of big business. In other words, it was a plutocratic party. The Republicans were blamed for the Great Depression, and for not doing enough to meliorate its effects, such as unemployment. The fact that the Democrats were willing to address those effects of the Great Depression made them the dominant political party from 1933 until 1981. It was the fact that the Democratic establishment’s racial policies had offended White Southerners that enabled the Republican Party to become dominant again, beginning with Ronald Reagan.

The politics of the rejuvenated Republican Party therefore represented a synthesis of muted White racialism and plutocracy. The 19th-century notion that dog-eat-dog capitalism was somehow eugenic became attractive as a meeting-point between the two motives. However, although budgets were cut, the effects on the underclass were far from drastic. (Nor did Ronald Reagan turn Iran into a glowing parking-lot.) There seemed to be a strong anti-social impulse in all this; not infrequently the supporters of the less-government ideology will express it in terms of owing nothing to the government or to society.

Unfortunately, as it turned out, the established plutocratic motive in the Republican Party forced the recently introduced racial motive to take a back seat. Instead of concentrating on pro-White politics (such as restricting immigration), which is the most fundamental form of conservatism, the Republicans, with an ideology of free trade, deregulation, and less government, concentrated on dismantling the economic and social adjustments that had become necessary by the time of the Great Depression.

The fact that the Republicans had become the party of unnecessary wars also did not help. Barack Obama was able to beat Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination because she had supported war in Iraq and he had not. This consideration also surely had some bearing on Obama’s victory over John McCain, who repelled people with talk of 100 years of Middle-East war.

The combination of dishonest wars and a wrecked economy caused the election of Barack Obama in 2008.

Republican attempts to exploit some presumed amnesia on the part of the voting public, so as to blame Obama for the resumption of the Great Depression, had little success. Unemployment also became worse during Franklin Roosevelt’s first term than it had been under Herbert Hoover, but somehow that did not make people forget under which party the crisis had begun.

Why did three-million Republicans not turn out to vote for Mitt Romney?

Rush Limbaugh characterizes movers and shakers in the Republican Party as a bunch of elitist snobs who despise many of the ordinary people that vote Republican.

How many times have I told you this story? Early 90s, in the Hamptons. Dinner party, mostly establishment Republicans. And major figures, you’d know the names, big donors, fundraisers, come up to me, point their finger in my chest, actually jab my chest, “What are you going to do about the Christians?” “What do you mean, what am I going to do about the…?” “This abortion’s killing us! We’re never going to win a damned thing! They listen to you. You’ve got to get them to shut up about this!” I said, “They’re only 24 million votes. You can’t win anything without them.” “We don’t want them! It’s embarrassing!” Well, that’s 1992, 93. We’re now at 2012. That’s 20 years. That’s how long it’s been building. That is something that existed then; it existed during the 80s with Reagan. There was embarrassment over Reagan. (Rush Limbaugh, 29 August 2012: sound)

While this anecdote gives a useful insight, Limbaugh seems to tell only part of the truth, probably the part that he can tell without getting into really serious hot water. Abortion is clearly only one, perhaps the least of the issues dear to some Republican voters that the bigwigs find abhorrent. Other such issues are control of legal and illegal immigration, opposition to free trade, and opposition to wars for Israel. The fact that Limbaugh managed to discuss the conflict over the rules-change at the Republican National Convention at length without mentioning Ron Paul, whose movement was at the center of the conflict, demonstrates that with Rush Limbaugh, while some things are revealed, much is suppressed.

A large part of the cause for three-million registered Republicans staying home on election day, no doubt, is the treatment given to Ron Paul’s genuine and enthusiastic (if ideologically wrongheaded) grassroots movement. The abuses include what seems to be rigging of results in some primaries, and a rules-change at the Republican National Convention that rankled not only Ron Paul’s supporters but Tea-Partiers and anybody that was not strictly with the plutocratic Republican establishment. The behavior of the Republican establishment during the primaries and at the convention represents the contempt of a plutocratic party for ordinary people who do not heed their supposed betters.

 

Essentially, the establishment Republicans, the RNC, the GOP, the Romney Campaign want to change the rules of delegate-selection. They want the presidential nominee in future years to be able to choose the actual delegates to the convention so that he owns them, so that they do what he wants. And what it really is, is an effort to eliminate grassroots people from the Republican convention. That’s really what this is all about. And what that means is that the party has decided it doesn’t want to have to put up with a bunch of conservatives showing up, affecting the platform, and all other things that happen at the convention, including influencing the party. [Rush Limbaugh, 29 August 2012: sound]

Limbaugh speaks cryptically about “conservatives” when it was mainly a matter of Ron Paul’s supporters. That was not the only offense against Ron Paul’s supporters at the convention:

Prior to the rules vote, there was also a contentious vote on the report from the committee’s credentials committee, which prevented half the delegates from Maine — many of them Paul supporters — from being seated after ruling that there were problems with their selections.

The credentials report also passed by voice vote, prompting chants of “Seat Maine now” from Paul supporters in the crowd. At one point, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus had to gavel them back into order as the chanted over the next speaker. [Aaron Blake, “Ron Paul supporters come up short in rules fight,” Washington Post, 28 August 2012]

Ron Paul’s opposition to war and foreign entanglements generally would have represented a real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats and a change of direction that many people favor, one that would have attracted many who favored Obama in 2008 because of what appeared to be his disinclination for war.

The question for me is not why Obama was re-elected, but why anybody is surprised about it, given  what the Republican establishment really represents, and the contempt with which it treats the people whose support it seeks.

 

The Overemphasis on Demographic Change and Why they are Doing It

Fox News commentator Bill O’ Reilly made this dire assessment as exit polls suggested that the Republican Party’s White male challenger Mitt Romney would lose to the mulatto incumbent:

The demographics are changing. It’s not a traditional America anymore. And there are 50% of the voting public who want stuff. They want things. And who is going to give them things? President Obama. He knows it, and he ran on it.

And whereby twenty years ago President Obama would be roundly defeated by an establishment candidate like Mitt Romney, the White establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that this economic system is stacked against them, and they want stuff.

You’re going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming Black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way.

People feel that they are entitled to things, and which candidate between the two is going to give them things.

O’Reilly tries to cast the problem in terms of the old saw about how democracy cannot last because the people will vote largesse for themselves until they ruin the state, but he ends up interpreting that largely in racial terms (which is probably what really concerns the average Fox News viewer anyway, so that we probably should not consider this a slip but intentional pandering).

Who is the “White establishment” that O’Reilly says is now the minority? He cannot mean all White people, because White people are not a minority yet, nor did all White people vote Republican. O’Reilly is implying that the Republican Party got as much of the White vote as it could possibly get, which is simply not the case. The thesis here is that a less plutocratic Republican Party would draw a larger share of the White vote and be able to win elections at the national level.

After O’Reilly made his statement, Jewish political pundit Dick Morris stated on Fox News, “If this candidate, in this economy, against this opponent, couldn’t win … nobody ever can.” Morris specifically mentioned immigration as a position where the Republican Party would have to change. Morris and certain others seem far too eager to embrace the conclusion that demographic change is the reason why the Republicans lost, and overly determined as to what should be done about it.

Neocon columnist Charles Krauthammer was one of the first notable voices after the election to call for the Republican Party to embrace amnesty for illegal aliens:

The principal reason they go Democratic is the issue of illegal immigrants. In securing the Republican nomination, Mitt Romney made the strategic error of (unnecessarily) going to the right of Rick Perry. Romney could never successfully tack back.

For the party in general, however, the problem is hardly structural. It requires but a single policy change: Border fence plus amnesty. Yes, amnesty. [Charles Krauthammer, “The Way Forward,National Review, 8 November 2012]

King-Neocon William Kristol expresses himself a bit more timidly. He advocates that the Republican Party should continue to be the enemy of “big government liberalism” but should exhibit “fresh thinking” in other regards. Then he cryptically suggests that a change of the party’s position on immigration might be in order: “If a senator or a representative has a good proposal on immigration or monetary policy or education or tax reform, he or she should introduce it“ (William Kristol, “Losing Can be Liberating,” The Weekly Standard, 19 November 2012)

The Zionist owner of Fox News and funder of the Project for a New American Century, Rupert Murdoch, tweeted that the United States “must make sweeping, generous immigration reform.”

The dominant theme in Neoconservative propaganda at present is that the Republican Party must become even less the party of White people while remaining the plutocratic party.

The Neocon position was echoed by Sean Hannity, who has always seemed weak-kneed on matters of racial importance, claiming that he had “evolved.”

Among elected politicians, while Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner came out for amnesty, other Republicans, who depend on the support of White constituencies, disagreed.

Rush Limbaugh: Demographic Change is not the Problem

Limbaugh denies the premise of the Neocons’ rhetoric, that amnesty for illegal aliens would significantly win Hispanics over to the GOP. He points out that 75% of the Hispanic vote is more interested in the social safety-net and progressive taxation, than in immigration. (8 November 2012)

Rush Limbaugh says that that the Republicans did not lose because of demographics, but because the party had alienated the three million registered Republicans who stayed home on election-day.

It wasn’t an election lost because we didn’t get the women’s vote, the Hispanic vote. We didn’t turn our vote out. It’s just that simple. Could it be, ladies and gentlemen, three million Republicans sat at home because they didn’t see enough of a conservative campaign?

These are the things that have to be pondered, why all the party beats itself up over amnesty and single women and contraception. But I’m just going to tell you, if you think that the only reason why you’re not winning presidential races is because you’re not for amnesty, and because you’re not for abortion, if you change to that, if you moderate, modify your positions, you are going to cease to exist, because those who are with you are going to abandon you. (Rush Limbaugh, 8 November 2012: sound)

Beyond Limbaugh

Limbaugh says that if the Republican Party tries to cater to the Hispanic vote by embracing amnesty for illegal aliens, the party will cease to exist. That is very likely. However, it does not mean that the Republican Party will survive if it does not do that.

If the Republican Party is defined by opposition to the social safety-net and progressive taxation, then indeed it will cease to exist, whether it pursues non-White support or not, because these are adjustments that the conditions of late capitalism (where efficient production, exacerbated presently through offshoring of jobs, causes massive unemployment) make indispensable.

As with O’Reilly, Limbaugh’s rhetoric loosely ties plutocratic thinking with racial thinking by associating the desire for a social safety-net and progressive taxation with Blacks and Hispanics. The listener is given the hint that the Republican Party’s policies are a good way to give a relative advantage to Whites over and against non-Whites. The downside to this is that the White working class is put in the position of choosing between an impersonal racial interest and personal economic interest. Of course many choose the latter, especially outside of the South.

The Non-Southern White Working Class

A new report on the White working class by Elisabeth Jacobs of the Brookings Institution indicates that the White working class was the key to Obama’s victory in Ohio. White working-class voters everywhere tend to be more culturally conservative than other White people, but outside of the South White workers are more influenced by economic policy. A movement away from the plutocratic less-government ideology would bring the Republican Party closer to being the party of all White people. Here’s a chart from Mother Jones showing the White working class vote in various regions of the U.S.:

Since the Southern White working-class voters who now vote Republican were once solidly Democratic, and have adopted plutocratic rhetoric as a (perceived) sneaky approach to racial politics, we can say that these voters are not really wedded to the less-government ideology and, if they can remember why they started mouthing that rhetoric in the first place, will abandon it when they see that the racial interest is better served in some other way.

What about the Black vote?

It must be recognized that White people are not the only population in the United States that suffers from a false leadership that despises it. The Blacks also have their Judas goats, most notably Ben Jealous of the NAACP and Al Sharpton. The NAACP was created by Jews and is essentially controlled by Jews today, through funding. (When the NAACP started to take an independent course under Ben Chavis in the 1990s, it suddenly ran into funding problems.) Al Sharpton, who has a daily radio show and a television show on MSNBC, supports the cause of illegal immigrants, to the detriment of Black people in the United States.

Despite the effect of these Judas goats, about half of the Black population understands that illegal immigration adversely affects Black people, and they oppose amnesty.

Jealous and Sharpton together were prominent in stirring up irrational anti-White rage among Blacks regarding the Trayvon Martin case. This irrational hostility hinders understanding and cooperation for the common good of Black and White as natives of the United States, and helps the Neocons and others who want non-White immigration to continue.

While the false Black leaders try to maintain racial animosity, the false White leaders try to overcome that animosity using inducements that are transparently bogus.

The arguments that the Republicans have been using to try to get the Black vote are ridiculous. Those arguments are (1) that the Republican desire to take away the advantages that Blacks currently enjoy is really good for Blacks, and (2) that the Republican Party happily puts on display token successful Blacks and other non-Whites at its convention and even appoints some of them as figureheads in the party.

The reason why Blacks are not impressed with the Blacks who speak at a Republican convention or are made titular head of the RNC may be that they understand something that Whites should also understand. Those people speaking at Republican conventions do not represent any racial identity: they represent a cosmopolitan bourgeois identity. Bourgeois Republican Blacks no more represents the Black community than Mitt Romney represents the White community. They are simply money-people.

Here’s the real argument, which some Blacks should find convincing: if non-White immigration continues, if the United States of America cease to have a White majority, it will be very bad for Blacks. It’s a genuine argument, not an attempt at fooling them with empty symbolism and slick talk.

About half of Blacks are already hostile to immigration. What is needed is an effort to make Blacks think about immigration more and to treat it as a key issue in coming elections. This can be done through publicity that emphasizes the conflict between Black interests and immigration, and by getting Black preachers, who exercise considerable influence, to support that position. They need to understand that they are on a ship that will sink if they do not limit their demands and cooperate with others who want to prevent an incipient disaster.

Conclusion

The Democrats’ period of dominance from 1933–1981was based on addressing the economic needs of ordinary people, but they spoiled that with anti-White racial politics. The Republicans’ recent period of dominance has been based on being Implicitly White, which even now should be enough to win a presidential election, but they are ruining that by not addressing the economic needs of ordinary people, White and otherwise.

It is clear that the Republicans must change something to broaden their appeal. The Neoconservative answer is that the Republicans should try harder to appeal to Hispanics by embracing amnesty for illegal immigrants, and become in that respect a copy of the Democratic Party. There is a respect in which the Republicans should become more like the Democrats, and even go far beyond them, but immigration is not it.

Non-White immigration is the main threat to all of society in the United States today. There happens to be a ready constituency for curbing immigration, but to win it the Republicans must abandon plutocratic economic and social thinking. That constituency consists of White working-class people everywhere (many of whom have not been voting Republican), as well as about half of the Black population.

What I propose is that the Republican Party should continue being Implicitly White and culturally conservative but take away from the Democrats their main source of appeal, the social state. Given the economic conditions of late capitalism and the post-colonial period, it is in any case inevitable that the party that makes this adjustment will in the long run defeat the one that refuses it.

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281 Comments to "A Party of Plutocrats Has No Future"

  1. December 9, 2012 - 1:47 am | Permalink

    @domino: Very good comments.

  2. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    December 2, 2012 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

    I consider myself a political apprentrice
    Of the many fine minds of Occidental

  3. leslie sage's Gravatar leslie sage
    December 2, 2012 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:
    No matter what you say, he has alot more credibility than you.

  4. November 30, 2012 - 8:21 pm | Permalink

    @rick dimbath: That is more or less what happened after 1932. The Republicans are destined to become the perennial minor party again if they don’t make the adjustment that I propose.

  5. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 28, 2012 - 1:16 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott

    Good point

    There has been little or no discussion of the reality that Blacks
    Vote Democrat because They have no where else to go
    Why would they vote for implicit White Plutocrats?

    Everyone knows about Black on White Crime so why bother
    Comments as if no one knows

  6. November 27, 2012 - 7:04 pm | Permalink

    @rick dimbath:

    It is more intellectually honest
    To be for something than against Something or Someones.

    Anybody that focuses on the best way to secure the future of his own people is more likely to succeed in doing it. Being essentially focused on harming some other group is ultimately self-destructive. For example, there are White people — many of those who call themselves conservatives, I believe — who savor the thought of Blacks suffering as a consequence of non-White immigration, even though it hurts us too.

    This kind of faulty motivation is able to persist and continue driving toward destruction, I believe, because it is never openly admitted and discussed. If conservatives would really discuss their true motives, I think it would become obvious that much of what they have been doing is flat-out stupid.

  7. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 27, 2012 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    Captainchaos

    Good comment

    It is more intellectually honest
    To be for something than against Something or Someones.
    No point in being obtuse in worldviews ,
    No point looking for enemies that aren’t there
    No point in turning neutrals or benign against you

  8. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 27, 2012 - 2:52 am | Permalink

    “The German National Socialist N.S. were about being
    Pro-Nationalists , Pro- Volks , Pro-German
    NOT about being Anti-Jewish
    Or Anti-Anything else”

    LOL

    I’m afraid that’s about the size of it, dude. There is no delicate way to put this, so I won’t even try. White Americans have had their brains turned to mush by sixty years of Jewish television, er, the televitz, if you will. A White Nationalist mass movement essentially will need to compete for market shares with the retarded pop culture. “We stomp the Jewish world conspiracy under a jackboot!” just ain’t gonna cut it as a slogan. We need something more like “You matter to us and you will also be entertained!”

  9. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 11:32 pm | Permalink

    The only religion fully approved and supported by the State

  10. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Extremism in America is defined as not following
    The most Holy creed of all,
    Holocaustianity

    UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL

  11. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Extremism in America is defined as not following
    The most Holy creed of all,
    Holocaustianity

    UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL

  12. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Only the God of the Holocaust remains Supreme!
    Surely the

    Nihilist will celebrate the Death of this God as
    Well!.

  13. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    SEPERATION OF CHURCH OF HOLOCAUSTIANITY
    & STATE

  14. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 9:39 pm | Permalink

    MORGENTHAU REMEMBRANCE DAY

    DECEMBER 21 2012

    SO SAY WE ALL

  15. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 9:21 pm | Permalink

    The German National Socialist N.S. were about being
    Pro-Nationalists , Pro- Volks , Pro-German
    NOT about being Anti-Jewish
    Or Anti-Anything else

  16. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Voted for Romney but would have liked a better Candidate

  17. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 10:10 am | Permalink

    Oh just please bring back the daily color coded threat level indicators for the
    Boob tube
    What is today?
    Green, yellow, orange or Red?

  18. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 9:59 am | Permalink

    The Republican Party brought us TSA , SO THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN FEEL
    THE FREEDOM WITH THE PATRIOT GLOVED ONES JUST BY GOING TO THE AIRPORT.

  19. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    The Republican Party is anti-populist ,
    The Big tent is for Big Finance , Big Cartels & BIG Empire with many deluded
    That outsourcing is the Big Win Win & to hell with the economy & society,
    After all ‘WE WON THE WAR ON TERROR ‘ , DON’T YOU KNOW !

  20. rick dimbath's Gravatar rick dimbath
    November 26, 2012 - 7:53 am | Permalink

    Good points!

  21. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 23, 2012 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Then go and spread the Good News, Alice. And let it be known, That what the Jews do to the least of these our brethren they also do to us.

  22. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 23, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @Captainchaos:
    Bravo! It cannot be said often enough how pervasive our dispossession has become. We no longer tell our own story, cherish our own heroes not even trust our own instincts. Time to return to our own standards.

  23. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 23, 2012 - 4:45 pm | Permalink

    If the struggle is to be conducted vigorously it must give positive sentiments – should I go so far as to say “joy”? – to those who engage in it. We need so very many to take up the struggle; and if they did, victory would be well-nigh. Indeed, many hands make for light work.

    Is it not as plain as the noses on our faces that “Look at what those Jews are up to” and “All a prole needs is a full belly to be brought in line” are utterly lacking in motive power? How much leverage can one actually hope to get out of all that? The people will continue to be fed and the Jews will still be up to their old tricks. And what will have changed? Nothing, as far as I can see.

    Our people, every precious one, must be given to see themselves anew and for what they really are. And then…love. The willingness to defend what is best in life against all obstacles and at any costs. The Jews can never, so long as we exist as ourselves unchanged, take that away for it resides within us just waiting to be rekindled. However much they may believe it, their “G_d” did not make us as truncated versions of themselves so that they may one day enjoy an earthly paradise with us as their slaves. We only play into their hands if we act as though that were true. It is a filthy lie. And love of ourselves, grounded in a vision of what we truly are, is ultimately its only refutation.

  24. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 23, 2012 - 2:19 am | Permalink
  25. The Goy Chevalier's Gravatar The Goy Chevalier
    November 21, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @The Goy Chevalier: This also has the added — but not unnoticed (again, everything has to be done consciously with specific intention, including the consideration of every nuance and ancillary) — benefit of subconsciously (or, what is less likely, consciously) attracting turncoat Whites and those others so easily seduced by socialist wooing who react positively to certain strands of language despite its actual content. The implications of the self-shattering realization at the collapse of that particular form of cognitive dissonance will necessarily be enough to wake up at least a few mannequins on a conscious level.

  26. The Goy Chevalier's Gravatar The Goy Chevalier
    November 21, 2012 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I suspect that the most viable approach will ultimately be to adopt – only intellectually, only consciously, only technically, and only temporarily – the rhetoric of the prevailing ideology, with the ultimate effect of accomplishing the foundational mass movement toward our own physical, mental, and spiritual solidarity. Something along the lines of “White people of the world, unite!”

    This train of thought ultimately could have what it takes to validate an above poster’s statement that whites need to establish a victim identity of their own. This makes it legitimate for a White of Anglo-Saxon heritage to internalize the suffering of Russians and Spaniards.

    Of course, strategic moves have to be made on the ideological plane swiftly and with precision, each one the specific result of a specific, conscious action, in order to prevent the sprouting drive from being “burst asunder.” Roughly, for example, the idea is that we can, without any loss to ourselves or our movement — particularly on the abstract plane — abandon (again, with purpose) certain concepts temporarily, only because the end result will be to establish them firmly within a framework of ultimate truth.

    Again: “White people of the world, Unite!” We can forget fundamental national, ethnic, and cultural distinctions for the time being and unify simply based on our Whiteness. We have the preservation of our race to hold us together. In the end, we must set the example. In the interim, White leaders (and subsequently the white population) will naturally observe and respect cultural distinctions and boundaries without having to specifically justify their necessity. Once White world solidarity has been firmly established, it will be on Whites to set the example in terms of the importance of supporting and respecting national, cultural, ethnic boundaries.

    Ironically enough I think our answer lies in the festering propaganda pits of contemporary academia, politics, and sociology. It’s simply a matter turning the beast on itself. It’s quite a poetic thought, really.

  27. November 21, 2012 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

    @Captainchaos:

    Excellent comment! On the rare occasions I read a comment at TOO that shows some understanding of what motivates human beings, I feel refreshed and have a rise of hope.

  28. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 21, 2012 - 5:01 am | Permalink

    “CaptainDrama”

    LOL

    Some National Socialist you are, Haddy. A movement that cannot attract younger adherents is dead in the water. I can promise you that most young Germans didn’t give two figs about NS’s more esoteric elements – Jewish conspiracies and whatnot. It was the self-expressive qualities of NS’s volkishness which attracted them; the ability to celebrate one’s own existence and feel the rush of optimism as one rides forward on the crest of a wave to a bountiful and limitless future.

  29. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 20, 2012 - 11:09 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep: Actually, thanks for the Ayn Rand article. I read The Fountainhead as a callow youth, but somehow wasn’t enthralled by her literary talent.

    This appeal of Rand for some objective law is just so much nonsense. Taken to its logical conclusion, it would have the same law applying in every jurisdiction worldwide (drafted by whom, I’d like to know). Comic-book philosophers only deserve parody.

  30. November 20, 2012 - 10:49 pm | Permalink

    @Captainchaos: I think maybe you should change your nickname from CaptainChaos to CaptainDrama.

  31. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 20, 2012 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Mark, I don’t typically post on blogs and fora which do not allow me to fully speak my own truth. If one too vigorously takes takes an axe right to the root of the tree of the positions that a vain man has bound himself to he will begin to censor; all the while telling himself that he is protecting those he considers less than his equals from being misled by a clever rogue who can make the worse argument look the better.

    Mostly I post at Majority Rights and Age of Treason.

  32. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 20, 2012 - 2:01 pm | Permalink

    @Captainchaos:

    This is indeed fundamentally the great schism between Catholicism and Protestantism.

    Oh? Not the childish, vain refusal of adherents of the latter to understand that the God Who created them, even alpha males, possessed the authority to establish a succession of mortal human leaders, successors of the (post-Iscariot) Twelve, whose understanding of man’s obligation to that same God might just be superior to that of the aforementioned adherents and whose existence in every generation witnessed to the concreteness (as opposed to the mere abstract idea) of the Church and hence the endurance and permanence of its doctrines and dogmas?

    The foregoing paragraph, whilst clearly apologetic in wording and intent and exaggerated somewhat for effect, still has the virtue of not resorting to reductionism to explain a very big and complex quarrel of five hundred years’ standing.

    Of course, if you are actually Charley Rose in disguise, come amongst us to bring enlightenment, I take it all back.

  33. mark's Gravatar mark
    November 20, 2012 - 1:58 pm | Permalink

    @Captainchaos:
    Hey Captain,

    Do you post on any other fora?

  34. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 20, 2012 - 1:37 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Agreed, naturally. As I may have written before, this column/interview made a big impression upon me ten years ago, when the Tribal war on the Swiss for their implicit WWII anti-Semitism was at its height and their (now gone, alas) truly secret banking system and their claim to have had the right to be neutral, even in a war where the Tribal Powers the Allies said they had no such right, were also under constant attack (the real point being to get the Swiss to hand over every franc they had to the Chosen many).

    One of the few really sour notes struck in this piece is Halbrook’s felt need to cite Winnie’s faint praise for the Swiss, especially with its saccharine reference to the plaster god, democracy. Can anyone really think, at this late date, that Churchill and his alter ego, Bomber Harris, wouldn’t have considered carpet-bombing Zurich, Berne, and Geneva had the Germans moved in or had the Swiss even signed a nonaggression pact with those ultimate-evil gents in Berlin? These, after all, are the same guys who planned on leveling Rome and Athens before word got out.

    Nor am I forgetting FDR and the Manhattan Project’s Tribal traitors. The whole point of developing an atomic weapon was to use it on Germany and its European allies (and conquests, too), not the Japanese. Had Einstein et Cie been half as smart as the media tell us he and they were, the bomb would have been completed two months earlier, in time to use it prior to the surrender of that unfortunate nation. I can just see the books by such phonies as Doug Brinkley and Steve Ambrose, wherein they pontificate that a nuclear winter was something that Switzerland had coming to it.

  35. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    November 20, 2012 - 11:19 am | Permalink

    “Are you perchance NS?”

    Ultimately no. I am a man first. As were, at the end, Hitler’s primary lieutenants: Goring and Himmler. Hilter was at once more than and less than the men they were. He had one foot in this world and the other foot in another world. He was a prophet. Northern European alpha males cannot forever bend the knee – they cannot do it. This is indeed fundamentally the great schism between Catholicism and Protestantism.

    And parenthethically, I see that the moderator’s hand, at least on this thread, has taken a decidely Catholic turn.

  36. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 20, 2012 - 9:55 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: Regarding Kurt Eisner … that was a useful correction/clarification Hadding. Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write it, as I am sure others have who read it.

  37. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 20, 2012 - 5:14 am | Permalink

    @http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bernhard

    At least the old guard understood the damage of printing money willy-nilly.

  38. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 20, 2012 - 12:38 am | Permalink

    Captain- what are your basic premises?

    Are you perchance NS?

    Austrians want competing moneys, with money being defined as whatever the buyer and seller agree it to be. How does this lead to enslavement?

  39. November 19, 2012 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    “well behaved” is probably the wrong term in my post above, since as far as I know no pro-white demonstrations of any kind have been violent.

    “Modestly dressed” would have perhaps been a better term.

  40. November 19, 2012 - 9:49 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    “Grassroots organization is the way.”

    Grassroots organizing is great. But there is also today this thing called the Internet…

    The anti-white enemy maintains its hold not only through the grass roots organizations it controls, such as schools and churches, but also through the miasma of lies its media cloaks us in.

    Looking at the whole spectrum of persuasive tools, including grass roots organizations, media, anything else…what part of all that do we have available to us through which we can presently reach large numbers?

    ONLY THE INTERNET.

    Are there any others?

    I can think of one, but it’s harder and so we aren’t doing it: I agree strongly with Dr. MacDonald that reaching people and organizing will be much helped by getting out and having demonstrations of the well-behaved kind that were held some months ago in Sacramento and L.A., to protest the ongoing massacres of whites in South Africa. I was disappointed that I couldn’t get a ride to attend the one in Sacramento…I wanted to carry a sign, “STOP WHITE GENOCIDE.”

    I don’t have what it takes to organize demonstrations, but with considerable trepidation I’m ready to attend some if others will organize them as well as the Sacramento and L.A. ones were organized. The police provided and will provide pretty good protection if we are well behaved. The police like that! They do NOT like having to deal with the lefty rabble that would often attack us if not restrained.

  41. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 19, 2012 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep: Velocity of money is a neoclassical abstraction with no grounding in reality.

  42. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 19, 2012 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep: Allowing a State monopoly on money production results in favoured clienteles (who do imagine this might be?) getting the money first, and thereby enjoying the higher purchasing power of the newly-created money vis-à-vis those who get the money after prices have risen.

    Also, whilst the monopolist money producer can easily control supply, it cannot establish demand for money, the latter shaping the structure of production.

  43. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 19, 2012 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: Nobody’s going to unite under the gold standard, nor libertarianism, true. But a reprise of the West is not going to happen via institutionalized channels. That game was lost a century ago.

  44. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 19, 2012 - 6:34 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep:I don’t see what Ayn Rand has got to do with anything except her own cult.

    But we do have one point of agreement. That governments’ various monetary authorities will work together to save the fiat system, as indeed they do now. That said, at some point there comes a time when the official currency loses popular trust, and some other black market substitute appears. Silver, gold, who knows.

  45. November 19, 2012 - 6:00 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    “BUGSter rhetoric (1) begins by accepting the enemy’s premises”

    The anti-whites’ premise is that white genocide is a good thing and they’re going to succeed in carrying it out.

    Our premise is that white genocide is a bad thing and they’re not going to succeed in carrying it out.

    What premises did you have in mind?

  46. November 19, 2012 - 5:55 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    As I said, it’s YOU, not me, who apparently thinks the plutocrats can be enticed away from their present ideology. As I quoted you upthread,

    “A movement away from the plutocratic less-government ideology would bring the Republican Party closer to being the party of all White people.”

    I ask you again, in what magical way is that going to happen?

    If you don’t think the plutocrats are going to change their ideology (which of course is absurd, right?), then you must think that other forces in the Republican Party are going to overthrow the plutocrats’ power.

    I’m honestly certain you’re much more informed about politics than I am, so please enlighten me and others here who those forces would be.

  47. mark's Gravatar mark
    November 19, 2012 - 5:37 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    Harumphty Dumpty said:
    November 17, 2012 – 1:33 am

    As Don Black said on his radio program recently, the last thing the anti-white elites want, be they white or otherwise, is for the white working class to have political representation and gain a sense of its own strength. Much too risky.

    So that’s an additional reason that the big money Republicans are not likely to shift their ideology to appeal to working class whites.

    Beyond that, what would the Republicans actually DO with this new power once acquired; back to conservatism as usual?

    They would be working against their own economic interests in wooing the White middle and working classes—to do WHAT once they have the power?

    Would they make plans for separating the races and dealing with the Jews? And would such plans be included in any campaign rhetoric aimed at the White middle and working classes?

    What would or SHOULD the Republican Party do concerning race and the Jews if they somehow manage to get into the White House again?

  48. November 19, 2012 - 4:01 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep:

    Its a diversion to the basic point of the thread, but something of a lightening rod.

    Quite alright! Although I admire the efforts of the Ron Paul Revolution, White people are never going to be united under a banner of either Libertarianism or the Gold Standard. This kind of ideological junk has to be cleared out of the way for realistic politics.

  49. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    November 19, 2012 - 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Mr Trenchant, Jewess Ayn Rand dominates the hearts and minds of today’s liberterians and if you want a start on what was jewish about her thinking here is an interesting essay. http://www.toqonline.com/blog/a-sense-of-life-ayn-rand/ It makes a good observation that her “sense of life” may have been strong and heroic, but, so much that her underlying message of INDIVIDUALISM aka SOCIAL ATOMISM is now eagerely lapped up by young gentiles by the millions.

    A real hero as all rooted peoples know, has a tribe, a people, and that is who he fights for. Not just some shibboleths like “freedom and democracy” or whatever the platitude de jour is in the “Creedal nation.”

    As for commodity backed money, you are wrong. The run of the USD in the present is the very thing that proves you wrong. Its duration is significant, even if you just measure it from when Nixon took us off the standard, which was already one of indirect redeemability anyhow. Or measure it from 64 when the silver was sucked out of coin, a smaller incident in terms of money supply, but one of considerable signficance in the psychology of the user of money. Doesnt matter: compare the money supply out there now, adjust it downwards for inflation since that point, and the absolute magnitude of the money supply out there now is a resounding factual repudiation of the old gold or bimetallic standards. Not to mention the velocity.

    The right wingers have been predicting collapse of the USD since the birchers decided that had legs but we’re still waiting. Hello: if ALL major currencies inflate at the same time, then the potential of a run on a weak currency is nullified. And if central banks can literally make up money out of thin air, then they will always be able to have enough money to buy a weak currency and stop a run– provided the major currencies and central banks are acting in concert. And lo, right now the Fed reserve and the Euro-whatever, are propping each other up and dont think for a naive and gullible second the Chinks really want to upset the apple cart.

    You got it backwards. Fiat currency and central banking fiddling and schemes, are here to stay, permanently; and the information age has expanded their efficacy in ways the ancient Chinese and Lydians could never have imagined.

    So what we see is the rise of a global oligarchy that is supported transnationally by central banks.

    The modern state will NOT EVER give up these tools voluntarily and any state that does will get CRUSHED. Dreaming about returns to gold standards, is like dreaming about getting rid of crossbows and guns. Aint goin away. Grandpa Paul, bless his heart, he’s a fine man but totally wrong on this as are all the gold bugs.

    Its a diversion to the basic point of the thread, but something of a lightening rod.

    A different and more productive questoin might be under what circumstances could an ethnonationalist state maintain a stable fiat currency without cooperatoin from the major centrla banks. Obviously the Jewish skekel, that does show periodic weakness, gets help from its jewish friends like Ben Shalom Bernanke whenever it needs it.

    But go back and read about the financial pressures brought to bear on Rhodesia and then RSA if you think gold is going to be some kind of magic. It wont be and it isnt. Wealth is based in the end on social organization. Money is an important part of how societies are organized but it is less fundamental, than consequential of other more basic social factors. Those social factors are the ones we need to focus on not the deriavative factors like money.

    One thing the white race had going for it, that went to hell under Anglo-Jewish capitalism, was a concern for the productivity and well being of all levels of society. The pagans had a sense of regard for the importance of all castes and the medieaval Christians– yes, Catholics– brought that into full fruit in the laws and customs of medieval and Holy Roman Empire. The Anglo-Saxon Porestant (jewish inspired) repudiation of the taboo on usury may have helped build wealth compared to the continent but we’ve also forged for ourselves from that gold, chains out of omnipresent compound interest. A look at the average American household budget and debt load shows how totally enslaved we really are and its more than high time to be able to hit back at usury, jews, our own racial high class compradors, and commodity fetishism international global finance. Cocern for the white working class– and boy that’s a lot more of us than we are willing to admit– ! Its basically concern for whites as such. The “one percenters” don’t need our sympathies they need a kick in the teeth for generations of racial treason.

  50. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 18, 2012 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    @Henry: Soddy’s just another greenbacker.

  51. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 18, 2012 - 7:22 pm | Permalink

    @Henry: Nonsense. Find where any Austrian said this.

  52. November 18, 2012 - 5:55 pm | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:

    … but your thesis ignores reality….
    [...] But what is going to entice plutocrats away from their ideology that gives them maximum freedom to pursue wealth and power, and make them support instead an ideology that fetters their pursuit of wealth and power?

    Who is looking for the enemy’s support? BUGSters, apparently.

    Your position is defeatist, which is not surprising given that BUGSter rhetoric (1) begins by accepting the enemy’s premises and (2) concludes donning the mantle of victimhood. This kind of rhetoric is hardly an inspiration for struggle.

    Grassroots organization is the way.

  53. November 18, 2012 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Harold is a snake oil salesman and no, we don’t discuss him here. There are a few others I’ll not name in the same category. Be smart and drop it.
    – Lycia, longtime moderator on STORMFRONT http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t842177-13/#post10294189

    This is the only intelligent position to take.

  54. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 17, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    @dixie: The cultural production of Lady Gaga, Tarantino, Coppola, Madonna, etc. is indeed catholic, if it weren’t for the Jewish producers and financiers, their reach would be parochial, at best.

  55. November 17, 2012 - 8:11 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon:

    On 11 November 1918 (Armistice Day), communist [read Bolshevik under Jewish agitation] insurgents proclaimed a “soviet government” in Strasbourg, following the example of Kurt Eisner in Munich as well as other German towns.

    Wikipedia is somewhat in error there. It was not Eisner’s example.

    Kurt Eisner, although a Jew, did not declare a soviet government. He declared the “People’s State of Bavaria,” which was moderate enough that Gottfried Feder tried to have dealings with it. Two months after Eisner’s assassination (February 1919) the Bavarian Soviet Republic led by Eugen Leviné was proclaimed (April 1919).

  56. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    November 17, 2012 - 7:53 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon, I was born and raised in the south, but I think the best outcome would have been for a northern victory and Lincoln’ survival, whereupon he would have realized his dream of colonizing American blacks. He tried to send some back after capturing New Orleans but didn’t have enough boats. Johnson didn’t share his views and Grant was too drunk to do much of anything (which is usually good for a president).

  57. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 17, 2012 - 6:58 pm | Permalink
  58. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 17, 2012 - 6:46 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon: I also agree with your point at unification being driven by a justified fear of Napoleonic France (of the top of my head, Napoleon was the first to use national conscription, and so could rally enormous numbers of men-under-arms). I still maintain that the unification was an unfortunate strategic error. And even bar mountainous terrain, there are still many ways to exhaust an invader. To wit:

    William McNeill credits the early-eighteenth-century rise of Prussia to
    the potato. Enemy armies might seize or destroy grain fields, livestock, and
    aboveground fodder crops, but they were powerless against the lowly potato,
    a cultivar which Frederick William and Frederick II after him had vigorously
    promoted. It was the potato that gave Prussia its unique invulnerability
    to foreign invasion. While a grain-growing population whose granaries and
    crops were confiscated or destroyed had no choice but to scatter or starve,
    a tuber-growing peasantry could move back immediately after the military
    danger had passed and dig up their staple, a meal at a time.

    James C. Scott, The Art of Not Being Governed, p. 196

  59. Henry's Gravatar Henry
    November 17, 2012 - 5:13 pm | Permalink
  60. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    November 17, 2012 - 3:14 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo-Saxon, France regaining Alsace was a forgone conclusion: not taking your primary war objective after sacrificing an entire generation of young men would be quite foolish. As for the Jewish issue, remember that in France and the UK, wealthy Jews like the Rothschild and Warburgs were suspected (with good reason at times) to have pro-German sympathies: they viewed Russia as ther great enemy.

  61. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    November 17, 2012 - 2:53 pm | Permalink

    @Mary, they are too blinded by their righteous victim schtick and hatred of the host to recognize their long term self interest (except for a few like Steinlight). See that rabbi in Israel’s recent comments for example: he is too irrational to realize that a Muslim host would not put up with their machinations. I guess others just look at history and reassure themselves with the thought that they will attach to a new host.

  62. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 17, 2012 - 1:15 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon: Yes, you make a good point Curmudgeon, while offering an accurate reminder of an important chapter in French expansion.

    The town allied itself to the Holy Roman Empire in 923, then under the German King Henry I. Strasbourg was also where Johannes Gutenberg created the first European moveable type printing press in about 1441.

    So, as you rightly pointed out, the city (and joint seat of the EU Parliament) certainly belongs to Germany historically.

    According to the Wikipedia page on Strasbourg:

    On 11 November 1918 (Armistice Day), communist [read Bolshevik under Jewish agitation] insurgents proclaimed a “soviet government” in Strasbourg, following the example of Kurt Eisner in Munich as well as other German towns. The insurgency was brutally repressed on 22 November by troops commanded by French general Henri Gouraud; a major street of the city now bears the name of that date (Rue du 22 Novembre). In 1919, the Treaty of Versailles [a conference under heavy Ashkenazi-Jewish influence] reattributed the city to France. In accordance with U.S. President Woodrow Wilson’s “Fourteen Points”, the return of the city to France was carried out without a referendum.[!!]

  63. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 17, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon:
    Unfortunately we all share that “universal positive” with them.

  64. Mary Thomas's Gravatar Mary Thomas
    November 17, 2012 - 12:35 pm | Permalink

    I have to comment on something that was touched on earlier, the fact that by ruining the USA, the Jews are at the same time destroying their most trusted allies. I have never been able to make sense of this. They chose to make us weak and one day utterly powerless, but we are their only real defenders. What the hell are they thinking? Do they spend all of their time stewing over historical grievances while ignoring the political reality of today? The parasite that kills its’ host is a dead parasite.

  65. November 17, 2012 - 11:13 am | Permalink

    @http://etc.usf.edu/maps/galleries/europe/france/index.php?pageNum_Recordset1=1&totalRows_Recordset1=83

    I have been to Strasbourg (Strassburg). The old parts of the city have a German flavour. Unfortunately, they are filthy – like most French cities, and most unlike those across the river.

  66. November 17, 2012 - 11:04 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    I prefer the Abe Lincoln’s original position on the Negro: free them, then send them back to Africa.
    Those who have known me since my teen years know my position on blacks, Jews, and others. I always look for the positive, and the one universal positive they share, is that they will die.

  67. November 17, 2012 - 10:54 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    I saw similar statistics 10 years ago. I’m fully aware of the disproportion.
    My point is this: to refer to those statistics as reported – black on white crime, etc.- is factual, and speaks for itself. There is no need to refer to the perpetrators as anything but black. Using “nigger” adds nothing.

    In the same vein, the comments about Jews controlling Wall Street, the media, are self evident. No one refers to Jews as “kikes”.

  68. November 17, 2012 - 1:33 am | Permalink

    As Don Black said on his radio program recently, the last thing the anti-white elites want, be they white or otherwise, is for the white working class to have political representation and gain a sense of its own strength. Much too risky.

    So that’s an additional reason that the big money Republicans are not likely to shift their ideology to appeal to working class whites.

  69. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 17, 2012 - 1:20 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Yes, Napoleon was hassled out of Iberia by Lord Wellington’s forces: aided by the guerilla forces you correctly point to.

    I suspect the unification of the German people under Bismark was at least in part to make a bulwark against any repeat of violent French incursions into their historic territory, and against the potential threat of the Russian Empire to the east. If it wasn’t for the treachery of the faggot-led and Rothschild-financed English, the German strategy would have worked; it would also have kept the peace.

    Remember that authentic Germanic territory extends up to Lithuania and the Prussian region that once had Königsberg (founded in 1255, and now named Kaliningrad) as an important cultural centre.

    As for decentralization, I would put it to you that Switzerland only survives because of the Alps (i.e., peculiar geography). And that the 19th century was not the right time to consider such a ploy.

    But today, decentralization is absolutely necessary and readily achievable! Modern technology now available to us makes decentralization all the more feasible.

    Forward thinkers who still reside in the increasingly ridiculous, corporate UNITED STATES OF AMERICA must help lead the way by breaking up, either into independent regions, or State by State on a secessionistic basis.

  70. November 17, 2012 - 12:59 am | Permalink

    Hopefully this has already been said, but I’m exhausted after just reading the article (!), and will save reading the comments for later.

    Hadding, a truly impressive analysis, and well worth reading for that alone, but your thesis ignores reality (why am I not surprised, considering our previous engagements!)

    The thesis here is that a less plutocratic Republican Party would draw a larger share of the White vote and be able to win elections at the national level.

    Well of course it would! And if pigs could fly, I could probably afford to take a trip to New York City, via pig!

    A movement away from the plutocratic less-government ideology would bring the Republican Party closer to being the party of all White people.

    Of course! But what is going to entice plutocrats away from their ideology that gives them maximum freedom to pursue wealth and power, and make them support instead an ideology that fetters their pursuit of wealth and power? Love for the Republican Party?

    I’m assuming that the control of the Republican Party by plutocrats cannot be broken because the power of their money will be too great. And I imagine that big money will not cry too hard if the Repubs go totally down the tubes, since then the plutocrats could likely have their way completely with the other party.

    We live in an anti-white system that supports white genocide, and both political parties are anti-white and support white genocide.

    That’s where the money is!

  71. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 16, 2012 - 11:48 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Football is mostly made for tv theatrics, almost like WWF. Real life is where toughness is proven.

  72. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 16, 2012 - 11:43 pm | Permalink

    make that “than from…”

  73. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 16, 2012 - 11:34 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:

    @John hearns: I owe you one for the etymology of “low brow”, but isn’t the “run like a …” more about prowess in the short sprint?

    Of course it is, but what better reason to evolve/develop a fast sprinting prowess then from plenty of flight rather than fight?

  74. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    November 16, 2012 - 10:27 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    No! The FBI now scrubs terms like ‘Muslim’, ‘terror’, ‘honor Killing’. See ‘Sarah maid of albion’ blog.

  75. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    November 16, 2012 - 10:25 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay:
    Proof of this is online for any doubters you might speak to.
    The pictures of the ‘Whites’ show some are not.
    Add to that the muslim immigrant ‘Whites’ in the crime stats.

  76. November 16, 2012 - 9:01 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Completely useless. There is a lot of fraud in reporting Non-White on White crime.

    Plus Hispanics are put in the White category on offender side, but not on the victim side.

    See this revelation by Virginia Abernethy.

  77. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Here it is! A poster at amren kindly posted this address for looking up crimes by category and variables:
    http://ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/ezashr/asp/off_selection.asp

  78. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 16, 2012 - 8:32 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns: I owe you one for the etymology of “low brow”, but isn’t the “run like a …” more about prowess in the short sprint?

  79. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 16, 2012 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon: Money is the generally accepted means of exchange. Austrian economics has no theoretical stance on what the best money is, that emerges from public consensus, and can change over time (aluminium coins, highly valued before modern smelting, worthless as currency thereafter).

    People like Ron Paul advocate a return to the Classical Gold Standard, only because it’s the model that existed prior to the current, exclusively paper-based system. I think it’s likely in the troublesome times ahead that a nuclear-armed country like Russia or China will link their paper currency to gold and thereby threaten the USD hegemony. Saddam, Gaddafi show it’s unwise to make threats (even purely demagogic) to the USD’s supremacy as a reserve currency.

  80. November 16, 2012 - 8:11 pm | Permalink

    @mari:

    Whoever wrote this is obviously not a White woman. I have never, never lived anywhere near a black neighborhood, but everywhere I go it seems I am harassed by some lecherous savage of a black.

    You are correct. I am not a White woman.

    Of course women are not safe around Blacks. The question of what motivates Black-on-White violent crime is what I was addressing.

    I am a bit disappointed that there is so much attention to this tangent. We need to think beyond the obvious.

  81. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    I did not mean to be rude about responding more directly to this excellent article. It is very information dense, with a lot of good information and history. I agree with many of the points in the article. The article was so dense in facts and history that one almost needs to take it paragraph by paragraph, busily writing comments in the margins in order to give it the attention that it deserves. I almost printed it but the preview said that it would be many pages indeed and I need to be frugal with my ink. I did not completely agree with all of the conclusions. I strongly agreed with Mr. or Dr. Scott about the need to curb heavy immigration.

    I agreed with most of the first part of the article and most of the article in general. However, I think that some key points to consider are the 1)the impact of globalist Fabian Marxist organizations working behind the scenes to influence policy in both parties, groups such as the Council on Foreign Relations, explaining as it does, for example, the fact that both parties and Black as well as White hucksters thwart the interests of their own people by supporting out of control legal and illegal information, and the fact that it is impossible to believe that the Republicans do not see the suicidal policy of alienating most of their current supporters for a handful of new voters, and the fact that both parties have long sought to pull the wool over their constituents eyes with mantras like “Americans won’t do these jobs” and “We’re a nation of immigrants,” 2)the fact that excessive collectivism and social programs are not beneficial to the USA or to Whites, we cannot expect good results from rolling back social programs but expansion such as Obamacare are very harmful, 3) the fact that among the minority groups the racial spoils system and the Democrats allocate the resources of the social programs by preference, take a look at the city employees after a Black mayor wins election in a city, therefore Blacks will vote for Blacks or near-Black-Democrats (bleached Blacks who cannot run a fast 100m.) who have a long tradition of pandering to their every wish, and 4)there is just too much bad blood between Whites and Blacks, especially in recent years, for us to have an alliance, and 5)just as Obama recognized when he said that his constituents could get even by voting, Blacks are voting against Whites more than they are voting for specific policies. Hispanics are doing the same.

    Like it or not, the racial and the political are linked now and the anti-White hatred of Blacks and many Hispanics’ anti-Anglo sentiments are just as strong. The extremist cultural marxist education for the last 30 years has produced at least two batches of anti-White racists made up of lackeys of all races. For a Black-White anti-immigration alliance to have successfully formed, it would have had to have formed over 15 or 20 years ago, before and entrenched 20,000,000 or more illegal aliens arrived and before the successful indoctrination of two batches of anti-White ANTIFA thug fanatics was completed. Too much immigration has occurred since and the battle lines are already drawn. Blacks and browns have proven that they hate Whites more than they hate each other and that they will make temporary alliances with each other and then battle it out between themselves. Of course if they got to that point the Hispanics would win.

    The Globalists want to see America destroyed or subjugated completely to a Global totalitarian state. To the extent that Jews advocate for massive non-White immigration, they are undermining their own project of bilking Americans for the benefit of Israel. Jews have a better chance to continue to use us to fund and support Israel if we survive as a nation. They do not recognize that we will not continue to thrive if we lose or constitutional rights and freedom or even the White majority and that if we do not thrive, they will not have a powerful nation advocating for and funding Isreael. Considering the conditions that they are creating, they might just as well petition Argentina for support. Of course, we would be better served to cut strong ties with Israel. Of course, the Historic American people and freedom in the USA are a hindrance to those who aspire to global governance (tyranny). There are several conspiratorial groups and they are interlocking in many cases. Sometimes they infiltrate each other, sometimes they cooperate freely.
    We have reached a stage in which the Republican party will not and should not survive without advocating strongly for White interests.

    Mention was made of the Martin-Zimmerman case. That case shows just how irrational and militant we can expect Non-Whites and White traitors to be in the future. Or perhaps it is rational to stridently support your kinsmen, no matter how wrong and downright immoral and criminal their behavior is. There is no doubt in my mind that George Zimmerman did nothing immoral or illegal and that Trayvon Martin was the aggressor who grievously assaulted George Zimmerman and who might have killed him if Zimmerman had not defended himself. That case could be considered to be symbolic of the current situation between Blacks and Whites. Most American citizens are living in the past in their view of race relations. Whites have not been oppressors for a long time and the minority groups and their White allies are the oppressors of Whites now.

    The Party of Plutocrats aspect of the piece was spot-on. But the elephant in the living room aspect of this is that Corporatism needs to be ended. Most people do not know that the United States originally only allowed corporations and their special protections for investors and their special influence on government as well as their special government-given dispensations and rights only under special-need circumstances and even then they were only given limited charters to only operate usually in one state, for a limited time, and with only one purpose (for example, to build a canal). We need to return to that policy. I didn’t say that it would be easy!

  82. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 16, 2012 - 7:40 pm | Permalink
  83. fender's Gravatar fender
    November 16, 2012 - 6:43 pm | Permalink

    A nation filled with jews has no future. 99% of our major problems stem from the fact that a hostile race lives within our borders. There’s no point in discussing our so-called “politics” (merely jewish theater) or “political parties” until we realize that these are merely symptoms.

  84. mari's Gravatar mari
    November 16, 2012 - 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Metizo IQ is about the same as black IQ. Metizos average IQ is 87. Pure hispanic indian IQ is 82 Black average IQ is 85.

    Hispanic and black IQ is about the same. of course the problem is the kind of hispanics we are getting. You should see what hangs around the lumber yards in Los Angeles. 4ft10 fully grown adult men with tiny little feet and hands brought straight from their stone village in the central american jungles

    So we are heading for a nation where the majority of the population has IQs in the 80’s and at least 40 percent have IQs lower than 80 which is close to retarded.

    The 12 percent blacks with their 85 IQ didn’t cause a problem until they were given all those affirmative action goverment and school and hospital administration jobs.

    But the critical mass of hispanics will make a huge difference. We can already see it in the California school system. And those allegedly high IQ asians can’t make up for the difference.

    Anyway, the countries with the highest IQs in the world are Germany and Poland, land of the blue eyes!!!!!!!, 107 and 106.

    AS Derbyshire, SAilor and Taylor endlessly remind us, the average Japanese, Korean and N. Chinese IQs are 105. S. China is a little lower and when we go south the IQs get lower and lower. I believe the Cambodian average is about 90, not much better than the blacks and hispanics.

    My whole families IQs, parents, 5 children, my husband, his 2 brothers, parents, all the inlaws and all the children have IQs ranging from about 120 to 135.

    So what? We are all middle class. It hasn’t elevated us to wealth and prestige. Not one Dr in the family for generations.

  85. mari's Gravatar mari
    November 16, 2012 - 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Hadding Scott November 16, 2012 – 1:17 am | Permalink @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Ridiculous exaggeration. I have lived near Blacks most of my life and I don’t experience this hostility. I worry about 1000x more about my house being broken into than about being attacked on the street for being White. I walk past them and if they say hello, I say hello back. I stay aloof and impersonal.

    Whoever wrote this is obviously not a White woman. I have never, never lived anywhere near a black neighborhood, but everywhere I go it seems I am harassed by some lecherous savage of a black. Just one more reason I can hardly bear to look at a black man. I have never been raped or assaulted, but a life time of harassement has really turned me against black men.

  86. mari's Gravatar mari
    November 16, 2012 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    The Tea party said nothign about affirmative action and balck on White crime, therefore the Tea Party is as much an enemy of Whites as the republicans and democrats.

    Regarding welfare, we should not be so scornful. Pretty soon we might all be on welfare bacause virtually all the jobs, from surgeons to janitors and security guards are taken by some kind of non White, Sailor, Taylor and Derbyshire seem to think it is perfectly all right for a medical or STEM job to be given to one of their beloved 125 IQ asians, but it is not.
    Walk through any hospital in the country, especially in California, NYC, Chicago and you will see almost no White males in any capacity except for a few 70 year old Drs still
    practicing. Most of the White males accepted to medical school these days are persians, arabs, armenians and indians who are White racially but corrupt asians and middle easterners in culture. Given the fact that these groups have established their ghettoes where the old country customs are strictly enforced, they will never
    change to european culture which is the most honest and least corrupt on this third world black and brown planet.

    In Los Angeles at least, the persian and armenian male drs are very aware of discrimination against them because they are White males. They are about the only White males who are aware of that discrimination. The American european descended White men just seem to accept affirmative action and discrimination.

    I assume some ignoramous who has never seem an armenain or persian will quote some Gobineau or some other nonsense that those ethnicities are not White. Go right ahead and display your ignorance about people who you have never laid eyes on.

  87. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 4:47 pm | Permalink

    From time to time I get very riled about some of these racial and political issues. Tunnel vision is not helpful to the White cause. If one is an advocate for Whites, a White nationalist, or a race realist, one should come to terms with the fact that Non-Whites are in competition and conflict with Whites for resources and power and that, currently, Non-Whites, and many Whites, are extremely hostile to Whites and White interests. There is no denying this. Every group has an interest, resources and power, to engage in conflict with Whites. In fact, Whites are the only group holding back. These points are the crux of the racial issues at hand.

    Recognizing these issues does not necessarily mean that we need to be terribly vindictive but it is certainly suicidal for us not to return to a level of White advocacy and activism that will assure our security and prosperity as a people.

  88. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Here is another article by Patrick Buchanan about Benghazigate. It is good but it completely ignores the factor of the Obama administration’s alliance with Al Qaeda in both Libya and Syria in its Coup and Color Revolution operations. It omits the gun-running to Syri aspect, too. In addition, it omits the important fact that the so-called Syrian rebels are foreigners, often the same Libyans allied to the administration in Libya. Again, this is bigger than Watergate and is more akin to the Iran Contra affair of the 80s. Perhaps these criminals will get off, too.
    http://www.vdare.com/print/27046

  89. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 4:28 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott
    “@Ragnar Lodbrok:

    IN FACT, THE INCIDENT AT THE WISCONSIN STATE FAIR WAS PROBABLY AS LARGE AS THE ENTIRE FIGURE THAT YOU QUOTED FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2011.

    The numbers that I posted are only homicides, not all violent crimes. I doubt that there were 448 Black-on-White murders at a single state fair.”
    I am sure that you are correct about all of that. And thank you, by the way for the excellent article. I am afraid that as with many conversations, one thing leads to another and one often strays from the questions at hand at the start of the conversation.
    About the fair, I don’t think that there were any fatalities there and that is a good and important point. I may have exaggerated the number of assaults but it was quite large, I believe. I know that the mob itself was large. Unfortunately, there have been some fatalities due to the mobbing, polar bear hunts, knockout king, wilding (I’m sure that some here remember the first Wilding incident and the result of it). There have also been some maimings, blindings, and permanent disfigurements as well as permanent brain damage. I think that you probably agree to some degree that in total these and other forms of Black on White crime are serious and common. One might be tempted to forget that some are unreported, too.
    Again, thank you for the excellent article.
    In my case I joined the Republican Party to support Ron Paul and his support for constitutional government and I was appalled but not surprised at the shenanigans at the Republican convention.

  90. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    November 16, 2012 - 2:51 pm | Permalink

    @buckle:

    That should read 16th century!

  91. November 16, 2012 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    “Ragnar” could be a handle used by a Jew to needlessly fill this site with poison about Blacks. I read this news about how Jews have employed 3000 anonymous online bloggers and commentators to spread dissent and disinformation. Ragnar could be one of those.

    I have told “Ragnar” a million times that Black on White crime will take care of itself once Whites become a united cohesive power.
    Blacks commit these crimes because they know Whites are splintered and atomized. Blacks would think a million times over if Whites had the same cohesion and spirit as Charles Martel’s armies.

    But he completely ignores and goes on ranting about Black on White crime ceaselessly.

    I agree you on White Black alliance on

    1) immigration, which should also be extended to

    2) neocon wars,

    3) homosexual agenda

    4) federal reserve.

  92. November 16, 2012 - 2:19 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Jews are behind these Black on White race wars. In America, Europe and South Africa.

    Are you so naive to think that Jew does not control media in South Africa?

  93. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    November 16, 2012 - 2:05 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    I stand corrected.

    It’s baffling that more American conservatives don’t use libertarianism as a mechanism to raise white awareness. I see similarities between its deployment and that of St. Thomas More’s use of “silence” in 15th century England when confronted by the British establishment.

    Winning Daytona can wait. All we are looking to do is jumpstart an engine which has seized.

  94. Karlfried's Gravatar Karlfried
    November 16, 2012 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Thank you for your comments. I like them, because they bring valuable information
    to me. I want to comment one of your sentences.
    …An important point, the conflicts are not between Westerners and Non Westerners, it is between Northerners and Southerners…
    There is a ring around the earth: USA and Canada, Europe including the western (=European) part of Russia and Sibiria (that is the eastern, non-European part of Russia). The people in these countries look very similar. Perhaps the political system ist not the same, but the people look similar.
    In Germany there is an inofficial word “Südländer (Suedlaender)” . That means litterally translated “a man from a southern land”. The real contents is ”a man from Turkey, Arabia or Afrika” and it stresses somehow that he is a foreigner.
    So the situation in Germany is also a sign, that we have a struggle between North and South,
    that is between colours, and not so much a struggle between cultures or political systems.
    This north-south-situation can not explain everything, but it is an important factor.

  95. bluegrass's Gravatar bluegrass
    November 16, 2012 - 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Informative piece Hadding, thankyou.

    I’ve seen many prominent dissident-right writers talk about America’s future as having a “Northern-Brazil,” kind of cultural and political character. There are signs of that, of course, but also trends that don’t appear to support that prediction.

    One trend, I believe, is that the Democratic coalition will cannibalize itself sooner than its ability to totally dispossess the European majority. I simply can’t see, especially under increasingly questionable economic conditions, the Asian-Hispanic-Black divide being restrained or kept out of public visibility for much longer. In rapidly de-Whitening areas like California, the multicultural narrative is an paper-thin illusion. Thus, when it collapses, imagine a synthesis of the barbarity of the Mexican drug-war and the calculated ruthlessness of Chinese dissident suppression; that could be one of the future flavors of our “post-racial” (post-White), ethnic conflicts of North America.

    I recommend that WN immerse themselves in the history of the small, fledgling state of Lebanon, and particularly its system of confessionalism. I have a strong feeling that this will be coming to America more so than any kind of 3rd-world style severe racial/class dichotomy. (i.e. upper class Asian/White/Jewish vs. black/mulatto/mestizo underclass).

    And, in terms of Lebanon, what is that country’s premier military force? Hezbollah, the vaunted shia militia that many allude is the prototype of what will be a growing wave of 4th generation entities. Organizations that do not operate under the rules of the Nation State but conduct many functions of the state: military force, media application, clandestine operations, political lobbying, and social welfare programs. The future will see a rapid rise in 4gw groups of varying degrees of complexity, militarization and sizes. The Zetas are far more the recognized power in many parts of Mexico compared to the corrupt police or inept military. Even in Greece, The Golden Dawn is increasingly seen as the greater force of stability, protection and social welfare than the inept and debt-ridden government.

    I believe the binding primary directive of any pro-White should be White Nationalism. I.e., whatever position in business, or military, or politics, one should also hold the ideal of an all White Republic in North America as the overriding goal. Many will need to hold this belief secretly, but it must be the foundation which guides one’s actions and must never falter in the face of subversion or compromise.

    To achieve this goal, I believe Pro-Whites should start considering what our fourth generation warfare entity in America should look like in an increasingly uncertain future. We must match ourselves with growing trends and the changing face of politics and warfare in the future if we hope to achieve long-term existence.

  96. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 16, 2012 - 11:49 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:

    A-ha … it’s all the fault of the Germans (or those damned Prussians) again, eh? After reading your comment ‘T’ Is that what we should conclude?

    Please go a little further back and study the damage done to some of those Germanic rump states by the French Emperor, Napoleon Bonaparte.

    I surmise the militarization of Europe was more the fault of France … and not of a newly formed Germany.

  97. November 16, 2012 - 6:46 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    IN FACT, THE INCIDENT AT THE WISCONSIN STATE FAIR WAS PROBABLY AS LARGE AS THE ENTIRE FIGURE THAT YOU QUOTED FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2011.

    The numbers that I posted are only homicides, not all violent crimes. I doubt that there were 448 Black-on-White murders at a single state fair.

  98. Max's Gravatar Max
    November 16, 2012 - 6:00 am | Permalink

    @Tom: Exactly

  99. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 2:32 am | Permalink

    P.S. Thanks for the article Hadding Scott.

  100. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 2:30 am | Permalink

    I’ll research the figures.

  101. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 2:29 am | Permalink

    @John hearns

    Thanks for the moral support, John.
    “From personal experience, and this is only anecdotal , blacks have been hyped up as being tough. I think they are quick to run when confronted one on one. ( Hence the phrase run like a “N” word)
    The toughest guys that I know are white. For sure.”
    That’s my experience, too. I even know of a case that happened at the University of Colorado once, a long time ago. The wrestlers, mostly White, an American Indian, and an Asian got in a fight with the mostly much larger, and many of them Black, football players. The wrestlers thrashed the football team, including the Blacks. Imagine how much bigger almost every one of those football players was than almost every wrestler. Sometimes they may have outweighed them by well over t100lbs. because of the wrestling weight divisions.

  102. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 16, 2012 - 2:22 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott
    Thanks for that info. In my experience, it IS based on race. Maybe it is the constant harping about the Irish draft riots but they hate me based on race, I guarantee it. A lot of people peg me as Irish or Scottish, and I am partly. I have seen crime figures quoted at amren and linked from amren and other places that are much higher than that. If it isn’t race, their behavior is still despicable, insupportable. As for the Black on Black violence, the more the better.

    I really was quite surprised by the low figures that you quoted. They are far, far lower than I had seen previously. Those are immensely low numbers for the entire U.S.A. Are you sure that those are not just the figures for Rhode Island?

    IN FACT, THE INCIDENT AT THE WISCONSIN STATE FAIR WAS PROBABLY AS LARGE AS THE ENTIRE FIGURE THAT YOU QUOTED FOR THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2011. I guess the large number of mob attacks, including mobs of hundreds of Blacks attacking whites was not included. As I said, I have seen much larger numbers quoted.

    As for Hispanics, I know Hispanics of all stripes, from the poorest to some really rich Latin Americans. I know what they say (even when most of you cannot understand them. It is not in our best interests to allow this massive immigration. I liked them a lot more before they supported the foreign usurper illegal alien in the White House.

  103. November 16, 2012 - 1:17 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    99.9% of Blacks are extremely, extremely, violently hostile to Whites. Any claim to refute this fact is a damned lie!

    Ridiculous exaggeration. I have lived near Blacks most of my life and I don’t experience this hostility. I worry about 1000x more about my house being broken into than about being attacked on the street for being White. I walk past them and if they say hello, I say hello back. I stay aloof and impersonal. I think my risk of suffering violence would be a lot higher if I were a wigger and tried to socialize with them on equal terms like some anti-racist idiot.

    Anyway, I am shocked at the number of negrophile White sellouts at this site who help our enemies who are waging a race war against us!

    I think you may be the only person posting here who ever was a “negrophile.” You preach with the ardor of a reformed negrophile.

    By the way, the FBI’s figures that I posted previously pertained to homicide.

  104. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 16, 2012 - 12:33 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    that Blacks have frequently, in large numbers, been bragging since at least the 70s that they are going to defeat us (I don’t know if that includes you) Whites. They claim that they are tougher!

    From personal experience, and this is only anecdotal , blacks have been hyped up as being tough. I think they are quick to run when confronted one on one. ( Hence the phrase run like a “N” word)
    The toughest guys that I know are white. For sure.

  105. anh's Gravatar anh
    November 16, 2012 - 12:02 am | Permalink
  106. Bear's Gravatar Bear
    November 15, 2012 - 11:34 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    I have to agree, Blacks are being tutored from an early age into a culture of resentment and entitlement. This is not their doing. It is Jewish money behind the SPLC and NAACP etc. The cultural Marxism designed to destroy White culture, religion and family was more effective a destroying the Black family. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are as much sell outs as Bush and Rove.

    Without the hidden anti White malice seen from Jewish Semitic racists Blacks and Whites would have come to an amicable and fair accommodation by now. There certainly would not be millions of Hispanic illegals displacing Blacks.

    The Nation of Islam knows this, one of the few Black advocacy groups not controlled by you know who.

  107. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay
    @Curmudgeon
    I learned about Blacks back when I was a clueless racial liberal (a long, long time ago). They attacked me in every way possible (cowardly ways only). I am VERY White and very White looking and they, 99.%, hate the Whitest and most Nordic or Celtic people the most. The amount of dirty tricks and back stabbing that I have seen in almost every encounter with Blacks is staggering. We are not talking about fair fights. That happened when I was an ardent racial liberal. I learned the errors of my ways and what Blacks really are. I also learned how much they hate us humans.

    It’s too late now. I will work to protect humans from the Black species for the rest of my life!

    After I was no longer an ardent, clueless liberal, the attacks continued.

    Fi fan! Svartalfen til Afrika eller Helvete!

  108. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:59 pm | Permalink

    So Sanjay, Curmudgeon, and all other negrophiles, enjoy Black rule.
    Surt til Afrika eller Helvete!

  109. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:56 pm | Permalink

    P.S. You’ll drive me to Stormfront yet!

  110. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 15, 2012 - 10:54 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    Flattering as it may be to hear,I cannot go that far with you. Asian art has paid great tribute to the eternal feminine. It is simply that we are entitled to our art, our vision, inspired by our people. It works for us.

  111. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Correction: I know from the source that they themselves have said, since the 70s that they are going to defeat Whites in a Race War! Many, many, many of them say this.

  112. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:51 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon
    I do not remember using names. I didn’t use the unbelievably non-speakable dreaded N word. I think I called them Black. If I want to call them a name, I will. It might not make it through moderation, though. God knows that perfectly civil discourse frequently fails to made it through moderation here. If I do use a name, I am only referring to those Blacks who hate Whites with a passion and pursue a race war against us or hurt us whenever they have the opportunity. How many is that? I know from inside information and from the source (Blacks), that Blacks have frequently, in large numbers, been bragging since at least the 70s that they are going to defeat us (I don’t know if that includes you) Whites. They claim that they are tougher! Ironically, studies have shown that they have a much lower pain threshold and they certainly succumbed to cold ailments like frostbite at far greater levels than Whites and Asians during the Korean war. They might have trouble fighting in the Rockies in winter! What a shame!

  113. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:41 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon
    P.S. I think that you got lost, ANTIFA is at:
    http://rosecityantifa.org/

  114. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    It probably coincides with the number of Whites with virtually no real experience with Blacks in which they didn’t have the upper hand. And probably very little experience with them at all! If you have extensive experience, as a White person, with Blacks, Chicanos, Mexicans, and the rest, you are crazy if you hold that attitude. It is quite illogical.

  115. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 10:34 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon
    “Now most Huns are hard working law abiding citizens-I’m only talking about extremist Huns…”
    http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/a/abiding.asp
    Scroll down a little bit to see cartoon. Funny and very pertinent.

    You said, “The rate of black on white crime is absolutely higher than white on white or white on black crime. The point is, that it is crime irrespective of who does it. If the rate of Asian on white crime is 1 in 1,000,000, what purpose does it serve whites to call Asians derogatory names? It only feeds the beast.”
    I say, THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT BLAMING ALL JEWS.
    The point is that the Black Race is at war with the White Race and the White Race is not defending itself. That is the point. Curmudgeon, if your point is absolutely correct, we have no business at this site!
    99.9% of Blacks are extremely, extremely, violently hostile to Whites. Any claim to refute this fact is a damned lie!

    Anyway, I am shocked at the number of negrophile White sellouts at this site who help our enemies who are waging a race war against us!

  116. November 15, 2012 - 10:28 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    not only healthy society, but no arts, painting, music, dance, and all the fine aesthetics are possible without white women.

    Look at the latest example. Steve Jobs of Apple did not succeed until he married a White woman. I have never seen artistic success, not one example in human history, where white women did not serve as the critical component behind the creative venture.

  117. November 15, 2012 - 10:21 pm | Permalink

    @Crime in the United States 2011, published by the FBI, gives these figures about Black and White offenders and victims:

    Black-on-White offenders……… 448
    Black-on-Black offenders……..2447

    White on White offenders…….. 2630
    White on Black offenders………..193

    The FBI counts Mestizos as White, which probably accounts for the White-on-Black figure being as high as 193. Nonetheless it seems that Blacks are on the whole much more dangerous to each other than to other races.

    The general cause of Black crime is not racial animosity but lack of self-control. Racial animosity is surely a factor in some Black-on-White crime but it is not entirely helpful to exaggerate the importance of that.

    I remember that when Dr. William Pierce would discuss Black-on-White crime, the point of discussing it was never to show that such crimes occur, because most White people have some awareness of that. The point was that the Jewish-controlled mass-media failed to report it. Jewish control of mass-media is a much bigger problem than Black crime.

    Ultimately, Mestizo crime will also be a much bigger problem than Black crime. Mestizos are intermediate between Whites and Blacks in intelligence and criminality, but there will be many more of them and they reproduce faster. Furthermore, as we all know, their presence as voters will mean the end of the White majority, which means that the USA takes on some characteristics of Mexico, a thoroughly corrupt society.

    As bad as Black crime may be, in the big picture that we have to face TODAY, it is an irritant and a distraction rather than a problem of primary importance. Mestizo immigration is a bigger problem than Black crime.

  118. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 15, 2012 - 10:00 pm | Permalink

    did not allow my post which included links

    Try one link per post.

  119. November 15, 2012 - 9:25 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    Money is a means of exchange. Canadian Tire prints its own “money”, which can only be used at their stores. There is nothing magic about gold, other than people’s fixation on a “precious” metal. Austrians demand gold reserves. For what purpose? If money is printed purely for the purpose of exchange of goods and services, then it must remain in circulation to be continually recycled.

  120. November 15, 2012 - 9:13 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    The rate of black on white crime is absolutely higher than white on white or white on black crime. The point is, that it is crime irrespective of who does it. If the rate of Asian on white crime is 1 in 1,000,000, what purpose does it serve whites to call Asians derogatory names? It only feeds the beast.

  121. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 15, 2012 - 8:47 pm | Permalink
  122. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 15, 2012 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon:I believe people can choose which money they prefer without help from Jews, government, WN’s or anybody else, just like they choose toothpaste. Historically, Americans used Spanish gold coins as money without any instruction from on high. Where there are no State-stipulated exchange rates, Gresham’s Law doesn’t apply. Good money drives out bad.

  123. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 8:27 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Alice, I have not discerned the reason either. But I have had enough of it. It might not be personal but it is certainly aggravating when you have worked hard on a comment.

  124. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 8:25 pm | Permalink

    P.S. The moderator plays favorites, plays dirty pool, and has no integrity.

  125. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 15, 2012 - 8:25 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Easy ,Ragnar. I really do not think it is anything personal. The mysteries of triggering moderation has puzzled many of us. By the standards of this site, I have very moderate views an I rarely resort to vulgarity. I have often found myself in moderation. I have never discerned the reason.

  126. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 15, 2012 - 8:18 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    That is one of the reasons I have signed the We the People secession petition. Washington and the entire elite media have failed. Trust is destroyed. Any glance at the emotional tenor of the country, from us snapping at each other to exchanges on FB, tell the tale. It is time to start telling the truth, calmly and sensibly. Some will throw hissy fits because they do not want to acknowledge the unpleasant reality. Turns out you cannot have the American dream without the genius of white men. You can gain control, usurp power, replace the creators and do a good imitation for a while – then everything falls apart. Every time, every where it has ever happened that is the pattern. It seems that we do not have prosperity and freedom without white men and we do not have a healthy society without white women. Never perfect, but a whole lot better then we have now.

  127. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 8:14 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon
    I am hindered in this discussion or debate by the moderator who did not allow my posting for some unknown reason. I showed that Blacks are doing these things to Whites at a far greater rate than others. This is well known. Black on White violent crime is immense and immensely greater than White on Black crime or any other White crime. To make the liberal argument that Blacks don’t do any more of it than Whites is absurd. I do not understand why the moderator did not allow my post which included links. I will not have a discussion or a debate under these circumstances and I will not frequent a website that favors one side of a debate in such a manner. Some people need to examine their integrity, if they have any.

  128. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 15, 2012 - 8:10 pm | Permalink

    A couple of years ago Mr. Brimelow stated “anyone of any race can become American.” I haven’t looked at the site for years. When the economy was good he was taking out $375K per annum.

  129. November 15, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    great point. Americans are too busy watching pornography and sports so unless the 5 TV channels CNN, NBC, FOX, CBS and PBS go after Obama, nothing will happen.

    All this so called conservative media, Talk Radio, online and print mags/blogs, Facebook, Twitter has negligible influence.

  130. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 15, 2012 - 7:52 pm | Permalink
  131. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 15, 2012 - 7:42 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: Where did I suggest that Jews didn’t figure amongst libertarians? Jews don’t control libertarians, if that’s what you mean.

  132. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 15, 2012 - 6:24 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    Sorry, my keyboard is infected with gremlins again. Bring down.

  133. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    November 15, 2012 - 6:23 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Is it possible to bring a president own with a complicit press?

  134. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Concerning the fate of the Republican party, things do not look good for the Usurper administration. They should fall due to this much worse than Watergate series of crimes. They will fall. Unless the opposition falls down and plays dead.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/napolitano/napolitano77.1.html

  135. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 6:02 pm | Permalink

    P.S. If you study where Chinese civilization was founded, it was founded in the cool temperate regions that have a cold to cool winter.

  136. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 5:59 pm | Permalink

    @fender
    The real damage that Jewish media or Jews in general have done to Whites regarding racial issues is that they have convinced multitudes of Whites that they should feel guilty, should hate their own race, and that they should work against the best interests of Whites. Their incitement of incompetent races is of lesser consequence, THOSE RACES WERE ALREADY INCITED AND EVEN THEY KNEW THAT THEIR ETHNIC INTERESTS WERE AT ODDS WITH EURO-AMERICANS (ESPECIALLY NW EUROPEAN AMERICAN’S) INTERESTS [in capitals for emphasis, not anger]. Even low IQ people are able to identify the conflict of interests and so a failure to do so is more likely than anything a result of mental illness or extreme brainwashing, or both. An important point, the conflicts are not between Westerners and Non Westerners, it is between Northerners and Southerners. Mexicans, for example, are Westerners. Their culture is from Western Europe and they are Christian (Catholic, specifically). Their Spanish ancestors were from Southern Europe, they were already in conflict with Northern Europeans like the English and Dutch, and they moved to southern regions of the Americas. They are in conflict with us over resources (they are and intend to continue stealing ours). American Blacks are of Southern origin and from completely outside of the sphere of advanced societies. They have long had the opportunity to avail themselves of the fruits of such societies but they reject the opportunity. Russians are not traditionally considered to be western (though they are Christian) but they are northern and even they are in conflict with southerners. The aggression of Muslims is one of southerners against northerners. The aggression of Jews against Christians and Whites is one of southerners against northerners (the Jews are among very few southerners, of southern origin, who have high IQs and who are able to compete with Northern Europeans and East Asians). Most of the successful people are from northern regions, mainly. Northern Europeans, Chinese, and Japanese, for example. They are from cool temperate regions to cold regions.

  137. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 5:34 pm | Permalink

    P.S. Perhaps you were giving me an opening to post these important facts, for which I thank you.

  138. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 15, 2012 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    @Curmudgeon
    Simply look at the FBI statistics and compare the rates. You are apparently operating from the false premise that the rates are in any way comparable, that they are even in the same ballpark. Black on white crime far exceeds, by an order of magnitude, white on black crime. I would have expected such an argument at an Obamanoid site from the a member of Obamanation, worshippers of their messiah, not here at TOO. Frankly, I am surprised that you would set yourself up for such an obvious refutation based on very widely known facts. Also, look at some of these occurences:
    http://violentflashmobs.com/
    http://www.thugreport.com/
    http://cofcc.org/2011/04/blacks-made-up-majority-of-all-serial-killers-last-decade/
    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=3600

  139. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 15, 2012 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    @buckle: Why do you overstate your case so insistently? Several American conservatives have played an important part in the reversing the passage into desuetude of the bow tie. Please give credit where credit is due.

  140. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    November 15, 2012 - 5:05 pm | Permalink

    The problem with American conservatives and their European counterparts is that they conserve nothing.

  141. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    November 15, 2012 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Kevin MacDonald, Greg Johnson and Matt Parrott hold a round-table discussion on Secession.

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/11/round-table-on-secession/

  142. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 15, 2012 - 3:55 pm | Permalink

    @Tom Metzger, re “I tried to work with so called black separatist’s for over 2 decades but I wasted my time.”
    No kidding, if it is possible to hate whites any more than the jews do it is the black muslim types who do so, any cooperation is completely counterproductive and futile.

  143. November 15, 2012 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    @Athling:

    As I said above, we should oppose Black on White crime vigorously, and give no quarter.

    Black on White crime is high because Whites are divided as atomistic individuals and Blacks are united as cohesive block. So Blacks think they can get away with it without retaliation.

    When Whites will unite, Black on White crime will drop like a rock. Because Blacks will know there will be group reaction. Strength respects strength.

    At the same time, we should form coalition with Blacks on anti-war, anti-immigration, anti-federal reserve, and anti-homosexual agenda to defeat Jewish power.

  144. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    November 15, 2012 - 3:44 pm | Permalink

    @http://www.cornell.edu/video/?videoID=625

    This video is NOT “about SE Asian tribes”.

  145. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    November 15, 2012 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

    @snapperhead soup: Agreed regarding the non-usefulness of the term “White Nationalism”.

    How about “White Liberation”? How about getting rid of the “White” part entirely, and letting it devolve into the various DIVERSE parts of our overall “genetic tribe”, with each forming a node in a network, no longer at each others’ throats, like in the battle between “NW Front” OR “Confederacy of the South” being seen as mutually exclusive “solutions”.

    Much of the “ties that bind us down” is embedded in our use of language. Glad to see you taking a can-opener to that can.

  146. November 15, 2012 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Of course there are blacks who rape, rob, and kill whites. There are Asians and Latinos who rape, rob, and kill whites, just as there are whites who rape, rob, and kill whites.
    Do we pretend that the whites that do it are not as bad as the other races perpetrating these crimes? I’ll go out on a limb, and suggest the victims don’t differentiate that being beaten and robbed by a black is worse than being beaten and robbed by a white.

    Calling them derogatory names only gives them an excuse to hate whitey.

  147. November 15, 2012 - 3:11 pm | Permalink

    @coach charlie:
    Somehow, I just can’t imagine the British Special Forces being interested in the ebonics nature of the clip. If the “Special Forces” is really the SAS, you are into a pretty pale faced crowd.

  148. November 15, 2012 - 3:05 pm | Permalink
  149. November 15, 2012 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    The trouble with Ron Paul is that he is Austrian School, which is just another tribe house of cards. Where does the gold come from? The Chinese have found many US gold bars not to be gold, but thick gold plated tungsten. Who has an operation sophisticated enough to do that?

    A state owned bank issuing debt free currency to conduct its business is the answer. The NDSAP has been demonized for 80 years for showing how easily it can be done. The WWII fairy tales of death camps is the cover story to prevent discussion.

  150. dixie's Gravatar dixie
    November 15, 2012 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

    A lot of this is right —and if demography had been 1980, Romney would have won by more than Reagan.

    But what the msm people who even bother to account for the South do not understand is the INTENSIVE LOATHING many Southerners feel for figures such as Romney and Reagan (even moreso Reagan) DESPITE voting for them.

    Reagan (and more and more, in hindsight) has become seen as a great destroyer of American dreams. His gun running, pandering to Medicalism, etc, have become legend—- but he really was the first president to have diplomatic ties with the pope. And as he escalated the Fascist u.s. government, (Welfare-Warfare Statism) he ensured there could be no freedom for the protestants in what was once a protestant country (99% at the american revolution, with only one catholic signer, and a history of catholic Genocides of whites that CAUSED the ‘freedom of religion’ ideas in the constitutional documents).

    Today—- the (real) American families, the most generational American families cannot AFFORD to have children. Raised under another system, they feel HORRID should they take any forms of “government money” —by working for the military, or administering public money, or dispensing programs or schoolteaching or whatever.

    So—- the (real) Americans cannot even AFFORD one child (their birthrates were destroyed by people such as Reagan). And even as they CAN AFFORD one child, in their own country, if they’re very lucky—- they have to support huge families of catholics who are taught never to use birth control.

    Not only is “freedom of religion” a joke in a catholic Welfare-Warfare Statist country— but even the capability of reproducing families for the (real) Americans, who happened to be North European Protestants, became impossible.

    Please go try to even FIND the buried statistics of catholic versus protestant birth rates. Next, they say that’s because protestants “love abortions,” and no doubt will create some t.v. commercials to make that seem true. Even as they spend their public paychecks, and expect people from other religions to pay for them.

    The level of B.S. supported by neo-con candidates is quite unbelievable. Reagan pushed the Romanization of america like no other. The catholic cultural production of Lady Gaga, Tarantino, Coppola, Madonna, etc, etc, was used to demoralize the public.

    That’s just terrible!

  151. November 15, 2012 - 2:36 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep:
    “For decades Tom Metzger has emphasized that the economic interests of the white working class are worthy of discussion among white-nationalists but basically he has been ignored by the “suits.” I am pretty sure he attributes this to cowardice.”
    There is an old labour saying: we’re all doing each other’s laundry. The context was that money circulating at a local level is beneficial to all. Local, of course, was relative, meaning city-wide, state-wide, and country-wide. All of these are more beneficial than foreign trade.
    Henry Ford had it right. You have to pay your workers well enough to buy what you are selling. Broadening that, others had to pay their workers enough to buy Henry’s cars in order for him to be successful.
    Today’s “suits” have bought into the Jewish controllled “global economy” lie.
    How does a shirt made in Mauritius by someone earing a dollar a day help the local worker? Always lower prices – or so we are told. So the $20 shirt now costs $18, but the people who used to make the $20 shirt locally earning $10 an hour, are unemployed. The $2 trade off in price means $80 a day out of the local economy from just one person.
    The pizza restaurant owner has his business drop, because there is higher enemployment since the plant closed. He has to lay off staff. And so it goes.
    International trade deals have become corrupted. The old rules used to require a local market and export the surplus. That is now gone. Lexus was originally built in Germany, but only available in North America. That used to be called dumping. Electonics made in Asia with 110-120V electical supply requirements are useless to virtually all except the US and Canada.
    Local merchants need a prosperous working class to thrive. Big box stores are a death ray to local economies.

  152. Axon's Gravatar Axon
    November 15, 2012 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    The electoral system that we have…

    Makes sense. In terms of the Republican Party a big issue would be in overcoming the types of tricks & manoeuvres they employed against Ron Paul… However pursuing an influential presence in both parties simultaneously is tactically interesting. Is there any type of success with cross-party movements (e.g., for single issues like environment) in the US system? Would that be a possible approach?

    Best of all is to build White media. That’s where the real power is.

    Agreed. It’d be nice to see much more on the arts & entertainment side, even if it’s not as polished as main-stream material. There’s plenty of fan-made movies these days of decent quality, though admittedly the people making it tend to work professionally in that industry. Videos games are an interesting possibility, in that it may be easier to find programmers willing to construct something in their spare time – like is the case with much freeware today… Like everything, however, it’d have to carry the right type of message in suitable & accessible way.

  153. November 15, 2012 - 11:47 am | Permalink

    Best of all is to build White media. That’s where the real power is.

  154. November 15, 2012 - 11:19 am | Permalink
  155. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 15, 2012 - 10:59 am | Permalink

    @JustaWhiteMom: No offense meant, but it may just be you. A better way to put it is that what one elects to read over there is determinative. If Patrick Cleburne and James Fulford are top of the charts for you (they are for me), things look pretty darn good—even spectacular on some days. Still, the Ziocon Brenda Walker is, after Sailer, the most frequent blogger of all, and the way she shills for the Tribe is truly deplorable.

    If you consider the columnists VDARE reprints from TOO perspectives, Craig Roberts represents a towering plus, Michelle Malkin a staggering minus. As for Derbyshire, I do not share the widespread admiration he has engendered. He is strong on mathematics, but I find him pompous and unbearable—and frequently trying to play both sides against the middle—on virtually all else. I don’t trust him.

    I should add that Peter Brimelow is for me the biggest plus of all. A brilliant and courageous man and a notable thinker. Notable, too, is that everything he says and does is informed by his Christianity, and if given three minutes I could name a hundred Catholic bishops and an equal number of Protestant clerics and ministers who betray the Cross every time they open their mouth. Brimelow is a living, breathing rebuke to them all.

  156. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    November 15, 2012 - 10:51 am | Permalink

    @wattylersrevolt: I decided to write off Brimelow and Sailer years ago.

    Steve Sailer is at least part jewish. I tried to point out to Brimelow once that Sailer’s obsession with convincing the GOP that they could hold on to power by tweaking the districts and by following all sorts of other inane Sailer advice that basically amounted to nothing more than
    taking advice from a jew that would allow the jews to run out the clock on Whites in America, but which might give the GOP a few more paltry years of clinging to their increasingly fragile hole on power.

    I told Brimelow that the #1 focus of Vdare needed to be to start the ball rolling on promotion of an exclusively White Ethnostate. He ignored my advice and instead keeps letting a jew offer him advice – apparently oblivious to the fact that jews are our mortal enemies and not one single White man or woman should take ANYTHING a jew tells us as anything more than deception and lies that are designed to speed along our genocide.

  157. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 15, 2012 - 10:36 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: Thank you. I did already know what Goethe meant, however. Irony without emoticons or red flags just doesn’t seem to work anymore.

    (The remainder of this comment isn’t really germane to this thread; nevertheless …)

    In fact, may I suggest that what Goethe was saying went far beyond a reluctance to embrace Versailles. He understood perfectly well that “Germany” was just as much Germany without the Bismarckian unity-at-gunpoint-cum-subversion that was to come within forty years of his death. (I know, too, that, anent Goethe, “Bismarckian” is an anachronism.)

    Court historians for two-plus centuries have been hailing Napoleon for destroying the Holy Roman Empire. Their mantra—”it wasn’t holy, it wasn’t Roman, and it wasn’t an empire”—used to be drilled into the reluctant brain of every schoolboy (that was before it was replaced by “in diversity is our greatest strength”). One thing the mantra omitted saying was that everyone in the HRE had known those things for several centuries. Another thing it omitted was the thing that Goethe was talking about: within the HRE, political molecularization had produced an amazing degree of freedom and—even more important to the famously antiegalitarian poet—was associated, not in his mind alone, with a virtually unprecedented intellectual and cultural explosion that persisted until two generations after the establishment of the Bismarckian superstate. (Of course, even in Goethe’s youth an immense amount of consolidation had already taken place. Austria and Brandenburg-Prussia were huge and hugely influential, and it had been a century or more since the number of independent territories and free cities within the HRE had been in excess of 150. The era of atomization was long past by 1780, and the “molecules” were already getting pretty unwieldy by the standards of the prior three hundred years.)

    Being a man for whom life would have been and would still be almost literally unlivable without music, my preferred way of summarizing the matter is this: eighteenth-century Köln-Westfalen produced Beethoven; the mid-twentieth-century Dritte Reich produced Hanns Eisler.

  158. Axon's Gravatar Axon
    November 15, 2012 - 8:52 am | Permalink

    Great piece that outlines the historical reasons why the Republican party became the white people’s party even though they have atrocious, hideous policies, are generally atrocious, hideous people, & have the most atrocious & hideous globalist-moneybags agenda!

    The author makes a strong case for the success of populist politics built on the ideals morality & social justice, but also with an inviolable commitment to the historical white foundation of the USA.

    Thus there’s 2 apparent options in regard to electoral politics:
    1) Infiltrate the Republican Party & reform it;
    2) Form a populist 3rd party that can at least pull enough support away from the main parties to exert useful influence.

    The problems with 1) should be clear re: Ron Paul / Tea Party. So that suggests 2) may be a better pursuit… On which point it seems a shame that the A3P seems more inclined towards Paleoconservative/Libertarianism.

  159. Rudd's Gravatar Rudd
    November 15, 2012 - 8:52 am | Permalink

    @Tom Metzger
    I understand…

  160. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    November 15, 2012 - 7:22 am | Permalink

    @Jim G:

    Sorry, pal. But, I’m into practical real world politics. We need to rub the Catholics noses in it until the Catholic politicians & Catholic money change their ways on immigration, legal & illegal, and on their support of Israel.

    You want a mantra. Well here’s one for you: Latino = Catholic = Hispanic.

    If I really wanted to be mean I would say something about Boehner’s Catholic mother, and his Catholic grandmother. LOL. Get my drift?

  161. Jim G's Gravatar Jim G
    November 15, 2012 - 1:54 am | Permalink

    @Tom: ““John Boehner is a Holy Roman Catholic sh_thead.”

    It is not intelligent good writing. It only insults Catholics who support the goals of TOO and have zero control over Boehner.

  162. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    November 15, 2012 - 1:44 am | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    Black crime is high. -period-.

    Check Africa. Folks there do not have TVs, with a few exceptions.

  163. Will Fredericks's Gravatar Will Fredericks
    November 15, 2012 - 1:16 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    To the people who say that we just need to wait for the government to collapse or the country to disintegrate, I would like to know when that is going to happen. People have been talking about the imminent collapse of the system for I don’t know how many decades, at least since the 1960s.

    Assuming that this will happen, it’s not a good argument for sitting on your ammo-cases, polishing your rifle, and otherwise doing nothing in the present. Organizing for the racial interest within the current system means that we will have that organization if the system does collapse.

    Hadding, let me interpret that little gem of light you’ve come up with, and who you are talking to.

    Politics is just a speech-skin on the killing you see in the animal world. The real thing is killing in order to assert dominance. That’s the bloody bottom line that is disguised in all the talk about democracy and rights. (Alex Linder as quoted in Race Relations 101 With Ann Coulter)

    Setting aside the argument over how much National Socialism itself historically has allowed the sort of principled political analysis and participation over a extended period of time, I think its pretty clear that Linder and his present group of cohorts over at VNN and similar websites don’t tolerate this at all, and in fact militantly work against it. I think an argument could be made that their activities are analogous to the activities of the Stennes group within the Weimar NSDAP, that their activities de facto (and not completely unintentionally) favored not the folkish elements as much as the hard left ( my scaring away responsible people) and that as the suppression of Stennes was really key to the lawful victory of the NSDAP within the the Weimar Republic, so it is today.

    We all know such thinking as Kevin MacDonald (and you here as far as I can tell) make here is labeled by the “Linderoni” as “functional conservativism” (i.e. types like Igor Alexander) . Are you getting more willing to “name the Alex Linderoni” , and choose unambiguously “functional conservatism” over “functional Stennism”, even at the cost of incurring the Linderoni’s ADL like insistence on the necessity to “destroy the reputations and political lives” of all prominent paleoconservatives. Just curious.

  164. November 14, 2012 - 11:43 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    That’s a noteworthy level of intellectual consistency and integrity.

    Thank you.

  165. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    November 14, 2012 - 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Reading between the lines, Derb named the Jew in his new column over on vdare. Is it just me or is the vdare crowd losing their patience with the Jews?

  166. November 14, 2012 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Goethe probably only meant that Germany shouldn’t be highly centralized the way France is. Paris essentially is France, and that has been the case since Cardinal Richelieu. Germany has never been like that.

  167. November 14, 2012 - 11:13 pm | Permalink

    To the people who say that we just need to wait for the government to collapse or the country to disintegrate, I would like to know when that is going to happen. People have been talking about the imminent collapse of the system for I don’t know how many decades, at least since the 1960s.

    Assuming that this will happen, it’s not a good argument for sitting on your ammo-cases, polishing your rifle, and otherwise doing nothing in the present. Organizing for the racial interest within the current system means that we will have that organization if the system does collapse.

  168. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 14, 2012 - 11:08 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: So Goethe agreed with me! I always said he was smart.

  169. November 14, 2012 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: And of course there are no Jewish supporters of Libertarianism, right? What a ridiculous argument.

  170. November 14, 2012 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

    @Athling:

    You speak from weakness not strength.

    Black crime has nothing to do with immigration.

    For you people who insist that we just need all the Blacks to go back to Africa, and don’t want to hear anything else, I would like to know how you plan to achieve that. You are not living in the real world. We are stuck coexisting with them on this continent for the foreseeable future, and we have to find a way to make the best of that situation, consistent with what is most important to us. Meanwhile the situation for us and them threatens to become much worse very soon if immigration is not halted.

    I am not advocating relying on Blacks for anything. The main point of the essay was not about Blacks. The possibility of getting more Black votes just seems to me a likely fringe-benefit of what the Implicitly White party would have to do to win more of the White working class.

    If nothing else, publicity about how immigration adversely affects Blacks would likely increase dissension over immigration on the Democratic side.

    Don’t tell me that an anti-immigration publicity-campaign aimed at Blacks won’t have an effect. There’s too much truth in it, for it not to be effective.

  171. Athling's Gravatar Athling
    November 14, 2012 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

    I will make a final comment on this site. All Leftists are mine enemies be they Jew or Gentile. They are enemies on the battlefield of the mind. The African is mine enemy but not of the mind. He seeks the flesh of my people. He is a physical enemy and deals in savagery everywhere on the earth he is found. I know him. I know from whence he comes. I know how he thinks. He is foremost of mine enemies.

    Consider the Jew as he is. Do not assign him more than he is.

  172. November 14, 2012 - 10:22 pm | Permalink

    No party has a future. That’s how we got into this mess in the first place!

  173. Athling's Gravatar Athling
    November 14, 2012 - 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Sanjay and the author of this piece, take an in-depth look at this website:

    http://blackracismandracehatred.blogspot.com

    Be sure and scroll down to get a look into the faces of innocent whites brutally murdered by those you seek to form alliances with.

    You speak from weakness not strength. The Jew is no mythical foe with supernatural powers such that we need an alliance with Africans. The Jew isn’t butchering, sodomizing, raping, and torturing young white girls and boys (see the Knoxville Horror).

    You form your alliances as you will and become a traitor to your own race. You will be counted as an enemy equally with them.

  174. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Interesting to see Michael Ledeen’s warmth towards the Italian fascist movement, as distinct from the regime.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/flirting-with-fascism/

  175. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 9:37 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: The above citation’s source is given as “Encyclopedia Judaica” 1972, Keter Publishing House Jerusalem Ltd.

  176. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 9:33 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: In 1908, Mussolini denounced rabbinical Judaism in an article on Nietzsche. However, his real target was Claudio Treves, the Jewish Socialist leader, whom Mussolini was to oust from the editorship of Avanti, the chief organ of the Italian Socialist Party, in 1912. Among those converting the future Duce to a policy of interventionism and nationalism were the Jews Giuseppe Pontremoli, Ermanno Jaracj, Elio Jona, and Cesare Sarfatti, and five Jews (Cesare Goldmann, Piero Jacchia, Riccardo Luzzatti, Eucardio Momigliano, and Enrico Rocca) were among the founders of the Fascist movement. Three other Jews, Gino Bolaffi, Bruno Mondolfo, and Duilio Sinigaglia, went down in history as “Fascist martyrs, ” having fallen in the Fascist cause before the march on Rome in 1922. Mussolini was also strongly influenced by two Jewish women, the Russian Angelica Balabanoff and the Italian Margherita Sarfatti.

    FDR’s New Deal, same as the old one.

  177. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 9:06 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: Yeah, my error, corrected after coffee.

  178. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep:Given the disastrous legacy of Bismarck and his intellectual heir (The Lightening and the Sun), another vision for the Germans merits consideration:

    I do not fear that Germany will not be united; our excellent streets and future railroads will do their own. Germany is united … because my suitcase can pass through all thirty-six states without being opened. It is united, because my municipal travel documents of a resident of Weimar are accepted everywhere on a par with the passports of the citizens of the mighty foreign neighbors … One is mistaken, however, if one thinks that Germany’s unity should be expressed in the form of one large capital city, and that this great city might benefit the masses in the same way that it might benefit the development of a few outstanding individuals.

    Goethe in Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “The Politics of J. W. Goethe”, The Wall Street Journal Europe (Dec. 30, 1999).

  179. Rudd's Gravatar Rudd
    November 14, 2012 - 8:58 pm | Permalink

    @ tommetzger
    You need rebels for a rebellion. There has to be another political party to threaten the Dem & Rep..maybe this A3P needs a closer look..It will give the disatisfied of the 2 an out.
    Rebellions take different forms. Imagine all the closet pro Whites jumping to A3P party. Why the Jews would go crazy with all the AIPAC money going to waste.

  180. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 14, 2012 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

    And the economy was cartelized during the new deal by gerard swope (joo)- CEO of General Electric. ($ee the swope plan). Big Business hates free-markets with a passion.

  181. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    November 14, 2012 - 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Commodity-backed money is not the same as commodity money.

    The first order of business is removal of money monopolies (legal tender laws), thus establishing competing moneys. The second is to remove the State from the economy by abolishing all economic legislation.

  182. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 8:17 pm | Permalink
  183. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 8:16 pm | Permalink

    @fender
    The blame that Jews deserve about the Black issue is that they have inflicted this already harmful plague upon us. I’ve got new for you. The whole world is jealous of Whites and they have been for centuries, from long before Jewish media influence.

  184. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Erratum corrige: Commodity-backed money.

  185. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep:
    Guns are superior to arrows as weapons. Commodity-backed money is superior to fiat money in fostering healthy economic growth (legal tender laws would be unnecessary were paper money’s superiority self-evident).

    But to your point on feasibility: it is fiat money the historical anomaly, and not commodity money. Since the Chinese pioneered it, there is no non-redeemable paper money that has lasted any significant period. This international non-redeemable regime is only in place since the early 70’s, not a long time. Central banks (Russia, China, India, etc.) have also been boosting their gold holdings, a harbinger of interesting times.

  186. fender's Gravatar fender
    November 14, 2012 - 7:37 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    “Every race but the Whites recognize their own ethnic interests. ”

    This is only because of a century of jewish-run media and academia. Up until the early 20th century, Whites cared very much about their race. Read Grant, Stoddard, Chamberlain, etc.

  187. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 7:25 pm | Permalink
  188. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

    They could and they would.

  189. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:58 pm | Permalink

    @fender
    You couldn’t be more wrong. Every race but the Whites recognize their own ethnic interests. That was the point that I made. The non-White groups are a problem on their own. Even with their 85 IQs they can throw their murderous temper tantrums because of the success of Whites.

  190. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    The above video is entertaining and shows a Black man using the term Long legged mack daddy. That is why I put the link there.

    • November 14, 2012 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

      The problem is maybe 1% of the Blacks are like this preacher. But its the totality we must deal with and they will do nothing voluntarily except grind out more soldiers that will threaten our demise. Don’t get me wrong I tried to work with so called black separatist’s for over 2 decades but I wasted my time.

  191. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Benghazigate is worse than Watergate by a long shot and pertains to the issue of Republican longevity because if Republicans learn to have some guts and seriously pursue the real issues, the Obama administration is doomed and the Long Legged Mack Daddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLkokNuIojw will be ousted.

  192. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Moderator: Is the shorter version more acceptable?

  193. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    -Obama is covering up arms smuggling to Syria through Al Qaeda
    -Obama is covering up the use of Al Qaeda extremists against Syria
    -Stevens and the CIA were holding Al Qaeda prisoners against U.S. law
    -Obama has backed Al Qaeda atrocities committed against Syrian civilians and the framing of the Syrian regime for the crimes against humantiy and war crimes (the civilians killed were supporters of the Syrian government so it makes no sense for the Syrian government to have killed them anyway)
    -Obama is covering up his stand down orders to prevent help from reaching Ambassador Stevens
    -Attention is being diverted from the fact that Obama and many other administration officials watched a live feed for hours as Amassador Stevens and other U.S. personnel were attacked, raped, tortured, and killed (left links to articles about this here previously)
    -Obama arrested two flag officers, General Hamm and Admiral Gayouette for attempting to rescue Stevens et. al. against orders to let them perish
    -Petraeus and Clinton are being silenced, can now use 5th ammendment protection before congress since they will both have resigned

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/14/who-had-ambassador-stevens-killed-and-how-the-petraeus-affair-factors-in/
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=259975
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100189203/was-petraeus-forced-out-to-silence-his-account-of-benghazi-killings/

    Obama did not win the election honestly, massive vote fraud and the complicity of the mafia known as mainstream media made it work.
    http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-gop-can-not-legally-help-stop-vote-fraud/#.UKLW46Vj6-J
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd559.htm

  194. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

    The issue of infidelity and even the issue of national security are red herrings designed to divert your attention. Obama was pursuing a coup and color revolution in Syria and sending arms to Muslim extremists rebels who are even worse than the Syrian government. This course of action could very likely end in bringing Russia and China into a war with the USA as the goal of an attack on Iran is pursued. In addition, the CIA diplomatic embassy personnel were holding two hostages on embassy property in contravention of U.S. law.

    Two U.S. flag officers attempted to rescue the US personnel and have been arrested for that reason. Clinton and Petraeus will not retain their positons.
    IF PETRAEUS AND CLINTON WERE TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS IN THEIR POSITIONS IN THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE 5TH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS, NOW THEY CAN DO SO. OBAMA OREDERED A STAND DOWN AND WATCHED AMERICAN PERSONNEL PERISH AT THE HANDS OF AL QAEDA ATTACKERS LIVE. OBAMA WAS COVERING HIS USE OF AL QAEDA IN LIBYA, TO RUN ARMS TO SYRIAN “REBELS,” THOSE REBELS ARE ACTUALLY AL QAEDA EXTREMISTS. In a nutshell:

    -Obama is covering up arms smuggling to Syria through Al Qaeda
    -Obama is covering up the use of Al Qaeda extremists against Syria
    -Stevens and the CIA were holding Al Qaeda prisoners against U.S. law
    -Obama has backed Al Qaeda atrocities committed against Syrian civilians and the framing of the Syrian regime for the crimes against humantiy and war crimes (the civilians killed were supporters of the Syrian government so it makes no sense for the Syrian government to have killed them anyway)
    -Obama is covering up his stand down orders to prevent help from reaching Ambassador Stevens
    -Attention is being diverted from the fact that Obama and many other administration officials watched a live feed for hours as Amassador Stevens and other U.S. personnel were attacked, raped, tortured, and killed (left links to articles about this here previously)
    -Obama arrested two flag officers, General Hamm and Admiral Gayouette for attempting to rescue Stevens et. al. against orders to let them perish
    -Petraeus and Clinton are being silenced, can now use 5th ammendment protection before congress since they will both have resigned

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/14/who-had-ambassador-stevens-killed-and-how-the-petraeus-affair-factors-in/
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=259975
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100189203/was-petraeus-forced-out-to-silence-his-account-of-benghazi-killings/

    Obama did not win the election honestly, massive vote fraud and the complicity of the mafia known as mainstream media made it work.
    http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-gop-can-not-legally-help-stop-vote-fraud/#.UKLW46Vj6-J
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd559.htm

  195. November 14, 2012 - 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Face it in the end White survival in North America calls for Rebellion not Succession. Its time to make the ruling class Whites an offer they cannot refuse.

  196. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    November 14, 2012 - 6:40 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:
    Yes, and don’t forget the 20% white genes American Whites have given them. That is perhaps the greatest “development aid” that could have been given them. It gave them an enormous IQ boost. Average IQ of African Blacks is 67, that of American Blacks is 85. And still they are not grateful!

  197. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 6:10 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Yeah , “m” deserves an apology. He may have a single letter for a name but that does make him any lesser of a human being. He used the term negro and that’s pretty polite, IMO. He could have said much worse and who can blame him. Sticks and stones …

  198. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 6:02 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:

    Speech Code Law & Legal Definition
    definitions.uslegal.com › Legal Definitions Home ›

    Speech Code refers to a rule or regulation that limits, restricts, or bans speech beyond the strict legal limitations upon freedom of speech or press.

    You are thoughtful and smart, in time you will understand the need for coalition building.

    Thanks , that’s very true. haha
    I have already stated that if /when coalitions are possible then I am all for them.
    Right now it is most important that we cast off the PC taboos that have been made to control us in what we can say and what we think.

  199. fender's Gravatar fender
    November 14, 2012 - 5:35 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    “Also, Blacks, Hispanics, and others have different interests that are at odds with those of whites. That is and would be the case even if there had never been such a thing as a Jew.”

    Yes, but these races wouldn’t be a problem for us if it weren’t for the jews. They wouldn’t be in our lands stealing from us, raping us, and killing us, as the jews encourage them to do. Instead they’d be outside our borders wallowing in their filth while we would be building the world’s most beautiful civilization and culture.

  200. November 14, 2012 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Good point. Jews use Blacks as hostile instruments against Whites.

    But Jewish – White struggle goes back 2000 years, whereas White Black Struggle goes back only 300 years. And don’t forget how Jewish slave ships bought millions of blacks from African coasts.

    If you read the trilogy again, Jewish attempts to undermine and control Whites are not recent. It goes back to the late Roman Empire.

    So your beef should be directed at Jews, not Blacks.

    Since you correctly surmise that Blacks have negligible power relative to Jews.

    As Hadding Scott wrote above, building alliance with Blacks on immigration (and anti-war, anti-federal reserve) will neutralize Jewish power.

  201. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Blacks do not boost Jewish power significantly on their own. One of my beefs with Jews is helping what were and always will be hostile groups against whites. For me, it is not the other way around, if it were not for Jewish patronage of groups that the Jews correctly identified as enemies of whites (enemies even before Jews had taken over U.S. and European media), and direct Jewish attacks on Whites, I would not have such a beef with Jews.

    Also, Blacks, Hispanics, and others have different interests that are at odds with those of whites. That is and would be the case even if there had never been such a thing as a Jew. These are questions of control of resources and power.

    Blacks are relatively insignificant sources of power for Jews. They voted, along with every imported foreigner (virtually) and aggrieved underachieving brown group to form an anti-white mob. They are just one relatively insignificant stick that is bound into the Fasces.

    American Blacks should return to their beloved Africa and quit dragging Americans down. They would have a relative advantage there because of their U.S. education (even though they usually didn’t avail themselves of it as thoroughly as they should, apart from the cultural marxism part, of course) and big, overfed welfare produced girth produced with money stolen from their sworn enemies the whites.

  202. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 4:45 pm | Permalink

    @Anglo Saxon
    “Enjoy your next ‘chat’ with a Call Centre.”

    What does that mean?

  203. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 14, 2012 - 3:48 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns: You’ve noticed that he still hasn’t backed away from his mistake nor apologized to “m”?

  204. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 14, 2012 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    @Jett Rucker: It’s stupefying, isn’t it? The Tribe and its shills don’t open the silo door and start throwing the switches on the “anti-Semitic” nuke for just any politician. He has to be one who makes them feel threatened. That that fact alone didn’t endear Ron Paul to everyone with even a vestigial interest (to say the least) in the preservation of the received American culture speaks volumes about what’s dysfunctional within what’s left of the old USA and, to a lesser extent, within the ranks of white loyalists and advocates.

  205. November 14, 2012 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    Great point. We should move towards our goal, but we should also think which part of the spectrum we can operate in.

    Kevin Macdonald at one end, and Ron Paul at the other. In between you have Buchanan etc.

  206. November 14, 2012 - 3:26 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns:
    Speech codes is when you say:

    Welfare Queens, but you mean Single Black moms
    Neocons, but you mean Jews
    Bankers, but you mean Jews
    Gangs, but you mean Blacks/Hispanics,
    Pimps, but you mean Blacks selling White women.

    That is speech code, and I oppose it.
    But needlessly calling n-word will only widen the gulf between Blacks and Whites to boost Jewish power.

    If you want to boost Jewish power, keep using the n-word. But if you want to defeat Jews, build coalitions with Blacks on anti-war, anti-federal reserve, anti-immigration.

    You are thoughtful and smart, in time you will understand the need for coalition building.

  207. Sir Tristram's Gravatar Sir Tristram
    November 14, 2012 - 3:16 pm | Permalink

    All the King’s horses, and all the King’s men…

  208. Sir Tristram's Gravatar Sir Tristram
    November 14, 2012 - 3:08 pm | Permalink

    A Party of Plutocrats has no future = Yankee liberal/neocon Lincolnian semitic stew usurpation of the Federal mechanism done for

    Let’s be honest. What are you adding to an equation we had not already solved 150 years ago?

  209. Sir Tristram's Gravatar Sir Tristram
    November 14, 2012 - 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Next?

  210. Sir Tristram's Gravatar Sir Tristram
    November 14, 2012 - 3:00 pm | Permalink

    @Anty Ep: She also said that he wasn’t the ONE – you know, the ultimate man against time.

  211. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    November 14, 2012 - 2:36 pm | Permalink

    As for the idea of “physical unity versus intellectual unity,” there is something of a false dichotomy there. The physical unity of any group is premised on some idea. The unity of the American armed forces is premised on WAGES paid to the all volunteer force and the false patriotism of this dirverse socalled “creedal nation.” If there is a stronger intellectual basis for unity of a group then the group will not surrender which is why Afghanistan Pashtuns, united by tribe and Islam, have not surrendered to the US occupation. In the case of Iraq, the nation was divided between Shia and Sunni and the strategy to set these against each other proved successful along with more PAYOFFS of both sides.

    Another thing I’d like to reply to that comment, is that you should read Savitri Devi’s “Lightening and the Sun.” It is specifically about the question of a strong national force that is intellectually empty, only held by temporal forces of plunder– such as that of the Genghis Khan– that did not really long outlive the Great Khan compared and contrasted to a strong national force that is mostly an intellectual one such as the solar-unitary cult of Akhenaton, which was thrown off after his demise.

    Guess who Savitri Devi said exemplified BOTH the “lightening and the sun”?

  212. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    November 14, 2012 - 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Much as I like Ron Paul– and I’m not surprised that Louis Farrakhan digs him– gold standard is not coming back. Fiat money is an idea like conscription. Once you understand it, the state might turn it off strategically, but its always there for the state when it needs it. If fiat money is the only money accepted as legal tender worldwide then metals or commodity backed currencies will not arise. Sure people may barter here and there using specie but that is not the same as a commodity backed currrency, not at all. The question is one of scale. Fiat money will never go away any more than men will throw aside guns and revert to bows and arrows for their armies.

  213. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    November 14, 2012 - 2:05 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow:

    The plutocrats, of course, are even targeting the middle class in fields such as computers, with immigration from Asia.

  214. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    November 14, 2012 - 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Good article — wish it would go viral. I would like to see paid advertising in various media (prosperous patriots need to contribute money) explaining to citizens of all colors, including Hispanic citizens, what is at stake. The country cannot decently survive with an ever-growing immigrant underclass (legal or illegal). Lower-paid Americans are being run into the ground. Cesar Chavez understood and reported illegal immigrants in the farm fields (that could even be mentioned in an advertisement). Action is needed right away to make clear to Americans the seriousness of the situation.

  215. November 14, 2012 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

    http://snapperheadsoup.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-downfall-of-gop-brand-why.html

    Some thoughts on why the GOP lost its appeal among a whole bunch of people.

  216. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    November 14, 2012 - 1:11 pm | Permalink

    I put Hadding’s piece into the ‘excellent’ category for a range of reasons that go beyond what is actually said.

    A lot of people have talked about the actual idea, so I will talk about the structure of the essay itself, which also contains important information.

    So looking at the structure of the essay. In the first section he totally explains (whether directly or by consequence), bounds and contextualizes, what he is about to do in the piece.

    Now briefly pause to reflect on what most of us know Hadding’s wider beliefs are as to social/political systems.

    I’ll now make things a little richer by adding another specific position he has stated on an important matter, namely how to rate fellows like Buchanan, Taylor, etc who do not go as far as some WN’s would like. Hadding’s judgement was that just so long as someone pushes things in the right direction, consistent with the interests of Whites, the Truth, and their own personal convictions, and just so long as with that there is no misdirection that ruins the ability of readers and trusters to keep pursuing the deeper situation; just so long as they do that, then they are ALRIGHT.

    Now returning to the body of his essay. The political party stuff is consistent with what he says should be done in the first section. The idea at the end is consistent with how he says people like Buchanan/Taylor should be judged. Although he doesn’t word it that way (for reasons explained in the first part) what he suggests is consistent with his world view and would push things toward what he believes would be the right social/political system.

    That’s a noteworthy level of intellectual consistency and integrity. Which was why I thought I’d mention this.

    And also because….it was a good idea.

  217. chad johnson's Gravatar chad johnson
    November 14, 2012 - 1:05 pm | Permalink

    @Jett Rucker:

    You need to understand that this writer and many of the readers and posters of this site believe that government is good. They are just like the left except with a different agenda.

  218. November 14, 2012 - 11:35 am | Permalink

    This poster’s characterization of Ron Paul’s campaign as “idologically wrongheaded” is itself grievously wrongheaded.

    White/racialist agendas aside, Paul had it RIGHT, not wrong. He CERTAINLY does not cotton to submission to Israel/Zionism. And he SAID so, which is probably why his campaign was suppressed.

  219. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 14, 2012 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    @Fenria:

    Well said! That’s how I see the situation for the USA also. But I am someone on the outside looking in. So, it is much easier for me to say such things.

    Maybe you too are also an ‘outsider’ Fenria, and not one of the goldfish trying in vain to get an undistorted view while looking out through that curved glass bowl.

  220. Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
    November 14, 2012 - 11:19 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Yes, the infamous massacre at the garrison town of Cawnpore (now Kanpur) situated close to the Ganges.

    120 British women and children were hacked to death and dismembered with meat cleavers by mutinous Indian Sepoys, with their remains being thrown down a nearby well.

    It is my understanding that is where their bodies still lie (now known as the Bibighar memorial).

    Enjoy your next ‘chat’ with a Call Centre.

  221. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 10:27 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    The clincher is that it appears that the offending “N word” is negro.

  222. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 10:25 am | Permalink
  223. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 10:02 am | Permalink

    @Fenria:

    this whole rotten, bloated, enormous, hulking wreck of a nation to break apart, and for its constituent parts to float away and form their own brand new, sound boats. States need to secede. Maybe they can go it alone, maybe they want to team up with a couple of their neighbors and form regions. Regardless, the nation is full of people who are sick and tired of being tied to each other. Liberal hates conservative. All the races detest each other. Rich and poor have no common ground. Religious people and secularists are at each other’s throats. No one can find an agreeable platform for spending the nation’s money.

    And that is on a good day.
    haha

  224. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 14, 2012 - 8:46 am | Permalink

    @John hearns:

    Let’s not add to the PC problem by supporting the taboos that have been created to control us.

    That’s a good point. But by insulting a serious commenter, “m”, for a PC taboo violation that he didn’t even commit and then calling him a Jewish infiltrator for good (bad?) measure, Sanjay has doubled down on his own distorted understanding of actual words and deeds. How can talk of “alliances” be taken with a straight face when everything else the talker says casts doubt on his comprehension of what the word even means?

  225. m's Gravatar m
    November 14, 2012 - 6:19 am | Permalink

    @Sanjay:

    Normally I would not take the time to reply, but since I thought that your first words must be irony I was a little perplexed to read more, and find that you appear to be serious.

    So I will ask? What disparaging names did I call black people? Negro? Is “negro” the “n” word to to which you refer? Does using this word make one a “Jew?” And, in their natural state, are they not rather savage, or have I got it wrong?

    How to explain such a petty outburst? With a name like Sanjay I can only presume that English is not your first language, and therefore you do not understand, nor are you well versed in, linguistic meaning and intent.

    As far as your more substantive point–that is, making some sort of racial alliance with negroes for political purposes in order to combat Democratic liberalism, I wish you luck.

  226. Lombard's Gravatar Lombard
    November 14, 2012 - 3:41 am | Permalink

    “Americans are under the illusion that we are upwardly mobile.”

    No question there and the Obama whites have stopped buying into it. These dreams are the remnants of the Anglosphere at its peak. With massive tech, industrial, intellectual, economic advantages, every white man could one day be a Lord.

    More self sustaining States like the Germans realized the impossibility of this and sought to solve the problem of ‘How do we keep our toilet cleaners, ditch diggers etc happy considering their white’.

    Attacking the welfare state is stupid by the Republicans but it at least keeps them feeling like Elite.

  227. European's Gravatar European
    November 14, 2012 - 2:18 am | Permalink

    @coach charlie:

    Coach Charlie…true, and best response/comment. Is it called organic survival which binds one to one another under a structure? Not much of that left here among white Europeans in the US. The good life, over-indulgence, the $$$, doing your own thing, freedom without responsibility…it all has a price…, and the price is visible here.

  228. Karlfried's Gravatar Karlfried
    November 14, 2012 - 2:05 am | Permalink

    Both the article as well as the comments are very good. From my point of view (I am a German) there are good people and sound opinions in the USA, for example Ron Paul, but they have never a chance, because the money of the extremely rich people goes to other candidates. So the democracy in the USA will always lead to presidents who will be servants of those who give the money and who have the opinion-making press and television in their hands. It is difficult to change this situation.

  229. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 1:55 am | Permalink

    @Sanjay:

    What I am trying to say is that being PC has become sacred in these rotten times. Let’s not add to the PC problem by supporting the taboos that have been created to control us.

  230. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 14, 2012 - 1:46 am | Permalink

    @Sanjay:

    Now is not the time to be polite. In this day and age when the “N word” has been made to be unspeakable , while practically everything else is just fine, it is not the time to worry about hurt feelings that really don’t exist.

    If or when coalitions are possible then I am all for them. But these speech codes only hurt OUR team.

  231. November 14, 2012 - 12:57 am | Permalink

    @http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5QAbVcFojE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydnsu8V_Frk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6G7L7qaVI

    If such a staunch and loud Black Nationalist like Farrakhan can support Paul despite his pro-White News Letters (which Paul now disavows for political reasons), we can build coalitions with Blacks on anti-war, anti-federal reserve, anti-immigration.

    Enough said.

  232. Sir Tristram's Gravatar Sir Tristram
    November 14, 2012 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE TRUMPS ENERGY TO THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ONLY THING THAT CAN STOP AN IRRESISTIBLE FORCE IS AN IMMOVABLE BODY.

    Case closed.

  233. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:49 am | Permalink

    @Fenria
    Good point! I am trying to save my people and our land, not a corrupt Federal Organized crime network. The Federal Government is nothing but a Cartel serving organized crime interests. The federal government is an organized crime syndicate operating a protection racket, narcotics smuggling, and other typical organized crime activities.

  234. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:45 am | Permalink

    Not wise. Hmm, the only power that they have against us is to gang up with all of the other loser southern races. There are still more Whites in this country than all of those pathetic and vindictive southerners combined.

  235. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:41 am | Permalink

    Claiming that ethnic enemies who rob, rape, and murder our people are forgivable or reliable is absurd. I have no doubt that they would behave this way without Jews. Blacks have gone past the point of no return with Whites. The rest of the world, especially the southern races are extremely jealous and hateful of Whites because of our immense success in the world. The Jews are one of those groups but they are not the only ones. The others would all and will all pursue this course of action with or without Jewish prodding. It is too late to forgive Blacks. The crimes of Blacks against whites are unforgivable. Remember what the Indian mutineers did to the British? The British didn’t take kindly to it.

  236. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:34 am | Permalink

    A classy Jewish magazine which is about to go belly up with a picture of a classy dictator. Where is Wellington when you need him?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/newsweek-obama-victory-cover_n_2095138.html?view=print

  237. November 14, 2012 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    @Ragnar Lodbrok:

    Black on White crime is high because Jewish media has pathologized and indoctrinated Black minds against Whites.

    I never said we should not call out Blacks on their criminal behavior towards Whites. Did I?

    Where our interests conflict with them, we should oppose them (racial quotas, crime, rape, racial wealth transfer, etc)

    but where our interests match with theirs, we should build coalitions. Anti-war, immigration moratorium, traditional marriage, Anti-Federal Reserve.

    But simply opposing Blacks tooth and nail and slamming them with insults is not wise IMO.

    it will only boost Jewish power. Not building coalitions with Blacks will only benefit Jews.

    So if you are a Jewish anti-White infiltrator, that’s what you will do. Attack Blacks ad hominem, without thinking it through.

    Good nite.

  238. Fenria's Gravatar Fenria
    November 14, 2012 - 12:23 am | Permalink

    Why are you guys still trying to save this sinking ship called the United States? Even as the rats abandon it, you guys still cling to its submersed timbers. Why?

    What is needed is for this whole rotten, bloated, enormous, hulking wreck of a nation to break apart, and for its constituent parts to float away and form their own brand new, sound boats. States need to secede. Maybe they can go it alone, maybe they want to team up with a couple of their neighbors and form regions. Regardless, the nation is full of people who are sick and tired of being tied to each other. Liberal hates conservative. All the races detest each other. Rich and poor have no common ground. Religious people and secularists are at each other’s throats. No one can find an agreeable platform for spending the nation’s money. It’s time to call it a day and go our separate ways.

    Stop trying to empty the water out of a sinking ship with leaky buckets. Let the old ship sink. Time to build smaller, faster, better ships to take its place.

  239. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    November 14, 2012 - 12:23 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    I need more information on BB.

  240. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:21 am | Permalink

    A classy President (well not really a President because he is ineligible):
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread850995/pg1

  241. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 14, 2012 - 12:18 am | Permalink
  242. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 14, 2012 - 12:11 am | Permalink

    Pity Bernard Baruch doesn’t rate a mention in the great corporativist vision that makes FDR the adored figure of all latter-day Republican leaders.

  243. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 13, 2012 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Correction: Blacks have recently made vile threats against the Life of Mitt Romney (as well as necrophiliac threats against him) on twitter.

  244. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 13, 2012 - 11:48 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay

    Whites who still have some survival instinct and sanity realize that we have irreconcilable differences with them. Chief among our irreconcilable differences is the fact that Blacks are waging a one-sided war against Whites. There are brutal and cowardly gang attacks on Whites throughout the country. These attacks go by various names such as mobbing, wilding, knockout king, polar bear hunting (and I am one angry polar bear), and other names. There is immense Black on White crime that dwarfs White on Black crime which is almost non-existent. It is right in the FBI statistics. Blacks have recently made vile threats against the Life (as well as necrophiliac threats against him) on twitter. The perpetrators were still free several days later. That is a serious crime. The new Black P ussy Party (they call themselves the New Black Panther Party) intimidates and harasses Whites outside of polling places and the corrupt and criminal Eric Holder quashed a Justice Department prosecution. Blacks are constantly on the attack and seem to want a race war more than anything.

    We do tend to point out that Obama empowers the enemies of American blacks by importing foreigners to drive them out of their niche in the labor market. If voting is any indication, they are too stupid (average IQ 85, reportedly) to notice. Too bad for them. Mexicans are preferable. At any rate, too many insults and attacks means some of us are lifelong enemies of Blacks due to their own behavior. I for one, will never make a political or any other type of alliance with them. No sane person would make an ally of a mentally incompetent and vicious creature like that anyway.

    Reportedly the Hispanic gangs of L.A. (55,000 under arms way back in the mid 90s) are ethnically cleansing the neighborhoods to clear out Blacks. Well, every cloud has a silver lining!

  245. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 13, 2012 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    Sanjay, and let me ask you an even simpler question, what blanking “n-word” were you complaining about?

  246. November 13, 2012 - 11:08 pm | Permalink

    @Athling:

    Wrong. Please re-read my above post. Hadding Scot, the author is astute. He is right on the money.

    We must and should build coalitions with Blacks where our interests match theirs. Anti-war, anti-homosexual marriage, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-immigration.

    Over 80% of Blacks oppose Jewish Federal Reserve. Why do you want to shoot yourself in the foot.

    In fact, Hadding is smart in that he realizes this White Black conflict only boosts Jewish power.

  247. November 13, 2012 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

    @starera:

    Let me ask you a simple question. What language will be easier to attract those 50% Blacks who want immigration clamp down.

    Calling them Blacks, or calling them Savages, N-word, etc?

    You can enjoy a few moments of pleasure and gloat about how you are venting off steam, but this is only going to hurt us.

    In your heart and mind you know I am right, you are just needling blacks for your own vanity.

    It does not serve any political objective to alienate 44 million Blacks in this manner. Especially when Blacks are on our side on so many issues like anti-war, anti-immigration, anti-bankers, etc. as opposed to Jews who are opposed to us on EVERY major issue.

    No one is asking you to love Blacks or fraternize with them. But at least do not needlessly antagonize them. What a shortsighted impulse to call them N-word and all sorts of odious epithets.

    Please rethink.

  248. Athling's Gravatar Athling
    November 13, 2012 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Disagree with the author. Blacks will vote against their own interests in opposition to the white man. They clearly know where Obama and all Leftists stand on immigration and support them in droves anyway. If you are suggesting the white man should form some alliance with blacks count me out. Nobody is more rabidly anti-white than blacks. They vote (and murder) accordingly.

  249. domino's Gravatar domino
    November 13, 2012 - 10:44 pm | Permalink

    This is a very well reasoned article, however it challenges Republicans at such a basic level with statements such as the following: “Republicans, with an ideology of free trade, deregulation, and less government, concentrated on dismantling the economic and social adjustments that had become necessary by the time of the Great Depression.” that they either gloss over the implications or simply miss the point.

    To win the white working class vote, Republicans have to realize that economic security is the single most important issue in a man’s life. Without it he cannot raise a family, pay a mortgage, sustain his self esteem etc. These days too much lip service is given to “entrepreneurship” when, as the author (and Karl Marx) argue, technologically advanced, mature capitalism is characterized by massive corporate entities rather than the individual tradesmen.

    So what do Republicans prescribe for the worried white worker? Republicans attack the rights of organized labor and their “extravagant” pensions. And where do they choose to do battle? Against teachers in Wisconsin!–home to, (for example) many of America’s small engine manufacturers employing politically aware, skilled workers of German and Scandinavian descent–the very people most needed in the battle against immigration and the New York Banksters. Now throw in the Republican’s mumblings about dismantling Social Security and Medicare and stir in Romney’s reputation as a financial hit man and it’s no wonder Republicans didn’t carry the skilled white labor vote of the upper midwest.

    Then astonishingly, Republicans wring their hands and wonder why they failed and ritualistically invoke the elusive Hispanic vote blah blah. I have a suggestion. Learn to reach across to skilled White Labor the way German industry has. It’s going to be tough and precedent setting–unAmerican even–but it’s the only way the Republicans will survive and (who knows) maybe even thrive.

  250. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 13, 2012 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    @John hearns:
    John hearns, so right, it’s long past the point where being polite will accomplish anything.

  251. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 13, 2012 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:
    Sanjay, what are you talking about with “the n-word.”

  252. Darth Vader's Gravatar Darth Vader
    November 13, 2012 - 10:18 pm | Permalink

    This is very good for us.

    So many on the right completely overlook the plutocratic enemy.

    They focus on the minorities overrunning us, the Communists, or their ideological liberal enemies.

    Seldom, however, do they realize that we actually DO share a fight with those many of us despise.

    The left dedicates so much of its struggle to defeating the plutocracy.

    We should get out of their way. Or even help them.

  253. starera's Gravatar starera
    November 13, 2012 - 10:17 pm | Permalink

    @venonacables:
    venonacables, so true, the Tea Party movement was encouraging, going public and making waves is he only way to persuade large numbers.

  254. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 13, 2012 - 10:11 pm | Permalink

    and it’s classy too , haha

  255. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 13, 2012 - 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Like if a poster wants to call the bobama: “the marxist mulatto”, then that should be cool.

  256. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 13, 2012 - 10:07 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay:

    but calling degrading names to Blacks is very damaging to our own cause and frankly not very classy either.

    I don’t agree. There is nothing classy about speech codes.

    I think that it is rather healthy to cast off political correctness and to let out a bit of frustration with some good old fashioned derogatory handles. I don’t mean really crude stuff.
    And , of course , I am talking about in an informal setting as in when posting , not in a formal setting as in when writing an article.

  257. November 13, 2012 - 9:57 pm | Permalink

    @snapperhead soup:

    I think ‘white nationalism’ has too many negative associations. I think we should settle for ‘Athenism’ since Athens is one of the most sacred cities of Western Civ.
    Jews don’t call Jewish Nationalism ‘Jewish Nationalism’. They call it Zionism.
    Jews also fixate on their victimism, especially the Holocaust to boost their moral justification for their nationalism.

    We too should boost our sense of Holy Victimhood by defining our identity not just by white pride but white victimhood and suffering. We should make a big deal out of Ottoman Turk rule over Greece for 300 yrs, Mongol rule over Russia for 250 yrs, Moorish invasion of Southern Italy and Spain, and of course, the Jewish communist mass murder in Eastern Europe and globalist domination of the West today.

    Victimhood morally justifies our side. Blacks play on Atlantic Slave Trade, Jews play on the Holocaust. We need to play on our historical victimhood. And we have lots of grand narratives we can play on.

  258. November 13, 2012 - 9:51 pm | Permalink

    I think what we really need is go on the demographic offensive. HAVE MORE KIDS. We should no longer think in terms of the ‘white race’. Too many whites are turncoats and self-loathing race-traitors.
    We should think of the White Pride Race. Suppose the core White Pride Race in America is 50 million. We should be like Mormons and encourage having babies. If white pride race women have 4 babies each, the population doubles every 35 yrs. So, in 35 yrs, 50 million will be 100 million. In 70 yrs, it will be 200 million. In 105 yrs, it will be 400 million.
    Why the defeatism? Find a woman or a man and have kids. Be like Mormons or Orthodox Jews in Israel.
    Spend less money on videogames and such junk, grow up, and raise families.

  259. November 13, 2012 - 9:48 pm | Permalink
  260. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    November 13, 2012 - 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, the republican party serves as controlled opposition, and that is all.

  261. November 13, 2012 - 9:26 pm | Permalink

    @m:

    Great way to attract that 50% Black support against mass immigration.

    You appear to be a Jewish infiltrator who is posting these odious comments planted with the n-word to destroy all coalition building.

    Why not focus on our own lot instead of calling blacks names?

    Look at the problems White people are facing and address them in a sophisticated and sober manner, without using the n-word.

    Everyone here knows I am as pro-White as they come, but calling degrading names to Blacks is very damaging to our own cause and frankly not very classy either.

    If calling Blacks names was classy, then Macdonald and other writers would have been using it in the articles.

  262. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 13, 2012 - 9:06 pm | Permalink

    @m:

    Yes, you’re right, needless to say. We are well past the point where any reasonable man will waste his time in the vain pursuit of helping blacks achieve “enlightenment.” Still, I hope that my grandnephews and grandnieces, most all of them Texans, will use whatever powers of observation they have at least to dope them out. Information is even more critical to possess when a society disintegrates than at other times, and Texas will be one of the front lines in the bloody Mexican v. black war that, I concur, looks to be a virtual inevitability.

    I imagine that I see a set jaw and a grim smile as I read your assessment of these “exciting” times. (There’s every reason I should, since I have much the same look on my face several hours of every day.) Saint Augustine was profoundly shocked at what he saw happening around him: the collapse of the Roman world. Of course, he had more reason for shock than we could ever have, given that in his day Rome was already several hundred years older than Notre Dame de Chartres is now.

  263. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    November 13, 2012 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Re: The Video of Boehner at the RNC:

    In my opinion John Boehner is a Holy Roman Catholic sh_thead. Boehner couldn’t even carry traditionally Republican Hamilton County for Romney.

    Boehner has already announced he will go along with the Jewish Republican agenda on immigration, gays and whatever he can do for Israel.

    Btw, Boehner’s jewboy helper Eric Cantor used his influence with the FBI to push what has become the Petraeus Affair.

  264. nowswimback's Gravatar nowswimback
    November 13, 2012 - 8:35 pm | Permalink

    The Republican party only exists at this point to keep a real pro-White party from emerging. As long as they keep convincing many Whites that they will embrace good fiscal policies, public morality, Christian principles, etc., then no need to vote for a more nationalistic party. But after this election the GOP now sounds like Democrats II, and now are going to start openly embracing more anti-White policies, so look for more Whites to start abandoning them.

  265. coach charlie's Gravatar coach charlie
    November 13, 2012 - 8:32 pm | Permalink

    @venonacables, intellectuals are not that important. In fact, they’re irrelevant. You have a mixed race US military with zero intellectual unity but an abundance of physical unity (earned through struggle) who will not hesitate to destroy the pro-White overly intellectual movement. In fact, there are mixed race sports teams in the US who have zero intellectual unity but are physically united who will easily defeat the pro-White movement. What I’m getting at is that intellectual unity is not as strong as physical unity (maybe KMac can explain this). You have a mixed race US military that is not united intellectually but is united from enduring physical struggles together who is willing to kick anybody’s ass without hesitation. There are mixed-race sports teams who have physical unity and zero intellectual unity who will kick the pro-White movement’s ass. This is something that the overly intellectual pro-White movement fails to understand. Physical Unity that is earned through struggle together is > Intellectual unity. Honestly, the people on this site may agree with each other intellectually, but who amongst us would be willing to put their life on the line to save each other? We don’t know each other; we haven’t gone through any type of physical struggle together. If our unity is only intellectual, then our unity is weak.

    Yes, intellectuals are important; however, I think we need coaches, drill sergeants, and hierarchy. Players must listen to their coaches; soldiers must listen to those with higher rank. There are rules to being a good teammate; a good soldier. If you disobey those rules, you’re punished.

    The intellectuals like KMac are smart, no doubt, but they fail to understand the importance of physical IN REAL LIFE unity that is earned through struggle. Can you imagine a TOO or A3P team that competes and wins the Tough Mudder? How strong would this team be? They’d be united intellectually and physically. A genuine unity. They’d be strengthened even more so by the supporters who attend their events, interact with each other, and cheer them on. This is REAL LIFE stuff.

    http://toughmudder.com/

    Until this is understood, intellectual whites can look forward to being EASILY defeated by:

    A military comprised of various races will fight to the death to defend/protect each other because they have earned physical unity.
    A simple sports team comprised of various races will fight to the death to defend/protect each other because they have earned physical unity.

    Pro-White intellectuals who agree with each other …. meh. – you haven’t really accomplished much, have you?

  266. m's Gravatar m
    November 13, 2012 - 8:17 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Pierre–thanks for the always pointed comments.

    Actually, to even bring up the negro question in the form of “what is best for them?” is probably not advised. At least within the context of the current “immigration” debate. That is to say, it should never be the white man’s responsibility to provide cover for their primitive ways. But we know how that goes.

    In a bizarre way, an unlimited Mexican invasion could very well take care of the negro problem. Once blacks fall away from the protection of the white man, it will not be a pretty sight. And I guess that is the point of one part of this article. Yet negroes have never been a pretty sight, so it is difficult for me to work up much sympathy, or concern for them.

    Regardless of what I think, or what reality dictates, Republicans will never stop looking for their Great Black Hope. Their idea is that negroes can easily become more “middle class” if only they get with the neoconservative line. But this ignores the fact that the so-called black middle class is essentially a fraud, built as it is on higher salaried government jobs (filled mostly by incompetent but quite angry black women) and a more or less forced private sector AA. With the white middle class eroding, there will soon be nothing left for those of a darker hue to appropriate. Not sure what the Republicans will do then.

    God, what a mess we are in. Still, we must approach things with the proper attitude. It is an exciting time whenever one has the chance to observe the fall of an empire. Such a thing doesn’t happen all that often. So for that, we are blessed.

  267. venonacables's Gravatar venonacables
    November 13, 2012 - 7:43 pm | Permalink

    In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler referred to intellectuals as “knights of the pen.” He said that a someone who was willing to stand on the table in a beer hall and express his opinion in a manly fashion was worth a hundred knights of the pen.

  268. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 13, 2012 - 7:31 pm | Permalink

    The archetypal Republican, champion of entrenched interests (railroads), now subject of a Spielberg hagiography.
    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-lincoln-review-20121109,0,7581480.story

  269. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 13, 2012 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Aggregate spending went up dramatically under Reagan, so that part of the article is factually incorrect. Look at the debt his administration piled up. Some tax rates were reduced, however. Reagan the small-government advocate, that was a Oscar-winning act.

  270. Mary Thomas's Gravatar Mary Thomas
    November 13, 2012 - 6:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see the difference between Zimmerman and Rosenthal. You lost me on that one.
    The brown invasion hurts blacks in many ways. The browns do indeed take work away from blacks. Blacks used to have those jobs in hotels and restaurants, construction, meat packing, retail, etc.
    Picking fruit is the only job that blacks(and whites) won’t do.
    Latinos hate blacks and make no attempt to hide the animosity. The Latinos in Los Angeles have targeted blacks for ethnic cleansing, and many blacks have moved away. And yes, Latinos have no guilt trips over slavery. They’re here to loot and prosper by any means necessary. Sharpton and Jackson should be skinned alive by the black community for actively encouraging illegal immigration.

  271. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 13, 2012 - 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Dog-eat-dog is a leftist cliché. May the best man win is common sense. Anyone want to argue that the worst man should?

  272. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    November 13, 2012 - 6:29 pm | Permalink

    The Fed caused the depressions of 1919 and ’29. That the first is unknown to most, but of equal intensity to the second in GNP decline, is testimony to the disastrous interventions of Hoover and Roosevelt, notably absent from the Harding presidency (roundly condemned by all orthodox historians).

    The central plank of the Ron Paul campaign was to restore sound money to the US, with the gold nexus restored and the central bank abolished. This alone would have put paid to all foreign wars, which would have to be financed by tax, or debt, and not by money created ex nihilo.

    Basic economics would be a good start for a reprise of Western civilization.
    http://www.hacer.org/pdf/Hazlitt00.pdf

  273. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    November 13, 2012 - 6:27 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get Brimelow’s and Sailer’s obsession with saving the Republican Party. What if the Republican Party could attract millions of hispanic and asian voters? Would that make the Republican Party worth saving? Of course not. Hispanics and asians could vote for our race-replacemet through the Republican Party. An example of this monumental stupidity is the recent vdare.com letter to the editor from a small businessman-Robert Murchison-from Texas who writes that asians shoud be natural Republican voters. Does he not understand the demographic consequences of this? But this is the utter bilge that flows out the minds of aracial Republican Party small businessmen.

    Also…secession without expulsion=the racial annihilation of the remnant Native Born White American population through ecological collapse. It makes much more sense to be talking about this in public than lectures about how science has established beyond a shadow-of-doubt that asians in our America are more intelligent Native Born White Americans…comrade Jared Taylor comes to mind.

  274. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    November 13, 2012 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    @m: I think optimism may have gotten the best of you. Black primitiveness (I’m shying away from “savagery” for the moment) has already emerged as normative within the vast bulk of that population. The evidence of the candidacies of Obama and Rep. Jesse Jackson the Youngest are surely probative: not only will blacks vote for obvious black hustlers who make no secret of not having their black constituents’ interests at heart; they clearly admire them, even love them, for their success at using “the system,” whatever that system may now be, for their own benefit.

    Is it any wonder that Jews devised gated communities to protect themselves from these people? If George Zimmerman’s last name had been Rosenthal, Trayvon would have become a nonperson overnight.

  275. November 13, 2012 - 6:04 pm | Permalink

    It seems to be more diffcult for new political parties to gain influence in USA than in most European countries, despite the higher level of freedom of speach in the US. Here in Europe naionalist parties have been getting more and more representation and it has allready had effect on immigration policies in some nations, to some extent. Not in Sweden though, where the so-called conservative-led government made aggreements with the far left environmentalists on immigration policies, with the only purpose to make sure that the nationalist party Sverigedemokraterna, who gained representation in parliament in the last election in 2010, really will have no influence on immigration. I think that will backfire on the “conservatives” in Sweden as will Republican partys failure to attract enough whites do in the US.

  276. Anty Ep's Gravatar Anty Ep
    November 13, 2012 - 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Excellent article and this is the kind of thinking that we should be doing as useful exercises in what may be genuinely feasible to improve our current posture.

    I have a friend who is a Teamster and he says he has organized elections where klansman and black man vote alongside each other to organize for obvious reasons. This is not speculative, this really happens.

    For decades Tom Metzger has emphasized that the economic interests of the white working class are worthy of discussion among white-nationalists but basically he has been ignored by the “suits.” I am pretty sure he attributes this to cowardice. Perhaps or perhaps not.

    I have a hypothesis. Americans are under the illusion that we are upwardly mobile. Horatio Alger and the 1920s narrative of Herbert Spencer dog eat dog capitalism as evolutionary. That narrative is what a lot of our own parents or grandparents may have really believed. It mostly collapsed in the Great Depression but pops up its head again constantly in republican rhetoric. That narrative has us foolishly believing that we as individuals or families are going to magically outpace by saving thrift and industry, our 13-24% credit card balances or even our student loans which though at lower rates are NON-DISCHARGEABLE in bankruptcy. (How many college kids are saddled with a huge economic burden for an economically worthless degree and little intellectual training in the process!) It is foolishness for us to believe that the usual suburban white existence of credit cards, suvs, private health insurance, college, and all this kind of crap is really worth hauling ashes for the republicans and their big banking globalist shills like Mitt Romney.

    Of course Obama represents the same globalist banker/ zionist combine, but his marginal success shows how far a wee little bit of socialism and a wee little bit of pushing back at Israel can go a LONG way.

    Forget republicans it is WE who can take this moment and consider the real opportunities that lie before us for widening our appeal, by ditching all the idiotic pro business agenda stuff and reorienting our thinking and rhetoric towards a more folkish group-welfare oriented way of thinking. Dont call it NS if you like call it the “common good.” There is plenty of precedent in 2500 years of white culture to allow for people to think and act on the common good of the folk and not just the plutocracy.

  277. Ragnar Lodbrok's Gravatar Ragnar Lodbrok
    November 13, 2012 - 5:34 pm | Permalink

    The republican party would be well advised to press its advantage, impeach Obama for his administration’s malfeasance in the Benghazigate and Nikitagate scandals. Nikita=Broadwell. Nice broad. Reminds me of Nikita the assassin. Very fit. The Benhazigate and Nikitagate scandals are intertwined and evidence indicates that Nikita might be a Zionist asset.

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/11/11/a-covert-affair-petraeus-caught-in-the-honeypot/

    There is evidence of massive vote fraud in this election and Obama administration’s part in this should be ascertained and more impeachment charges should be forthcoming.

    I won’t hold my breath because I know that most Republicans and White people have given up and do not want to fight. They want the rest of us to stand down, too.

  278. Venona's Gravatar Venona
    November 13, 2012 - 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Great article. The analysis of the 2012 election is spot on.

    I am skeptical of the Republican Party taking any kind of a pro-white stand. But I remain optimistic about the future. Having the bungling Marxist mulatto at the helm of our sinking ship is the best thing that could ever have happened to our cause.

  279. m's Gravatar m
    November 13, 2012 - 5:25 pm | Permalink

    …if non-White immigration continues, if the United States of America cease to have a White majority, it will be very bad for Blacks.

    This is not a reason, but simply a statement. What needs to be said is why it will be bad for them. And it needs to be said clearly. It will be bad because the white replacements have no white guilt, and could probably not care less about American negroes.

    Also, it needs to explained to these blacks, if it is possible, that it is the white majority that keeps the negro from reverting back to savage economic conditions found in Mother Africa.

    Yet whether this argument can ever be persuasive is a big question. The African’s nature is rather savage, so a reversion to type is not necessarily a bad thing in their eyes.

    But whatever the case, none of this will be said-at least openly by Republicans. And even if it were, negroes would probably not as a group be able to understand the rational argument behind it all.

  280. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    November 13, 2012 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    In Ohio three of the Whitest Democrats in the United States carried Obama to victory. Former Congressman & Governor Ted Strickland. United States Senator Sherrod Brown, and former US Senator & national hero John Glenn. You don’t get much blonder & blue eyed than these three. Plus, both Strickland & Brown have very deep Southern roots.

    Romney’s bellicose outbursts in favor of the Jews & Israel didn’t go over too big with many of the voters, and his ties to Jewish parasite capitalism didn’t help him either. Not to mention Romney opposing government rescue financing of the auto, and most importantly the auto parts industry.

    The day of the Lincoln Republican is dead, but, the day of the Jeffersonian Republican is just starting.

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