The Big Questions: Eugenics and Ethno-States

Every year gets some certifiably smart people to give answers to a Big Question. This year’s Big Question is “What should we be worried about?” I suppose if I was invited to comment, it would be about the decline of Whites in all societies that have been historically White, from Australia to Europe, and what that might mean in terms of future racial/ethnic conflict as multiculturalism continues to march forward unimpeded.

But none of these smart people are concerned about that. Nevertheless, there are a couple of comments that bear on these issues. Geoffrey Miller, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of New Mexico and NYU, discusses Chinese eugenics as a long term threat to the West. In the West, as John Glad has shown, eugenics was a casualty of World War II and the successful effort by Jewish intellectual activists linking eugenics with the Holocaust. Eugenics is alive and well in Israel and China, but any mention of eugenics is greeted by the West with moral panic. Miller notes that “With the 1995 Maternal and Infant Health Law (known as the Eugenic Law until Western opposition forced a name change), China forbade people carrying heritable mental or physical disorders from marrying, and promoted mass prenatal ultrasound testing for birth defects.”

In the early part of the 20th century, eugenics based on Darwinism was common knowledge, and there were concerns about the future of the race, but among Europeans like Madison Grant and the Chinese:

Many scientists and reformers of Republican China (1912-1949) were ardent Darwinians and Galtonians. They worried about racial extinction (miezhong) and “the science of deformed fetuses” (jitaixue), and saw eugenics as a way to restore China’s rightful place as the world’s leading civilization after a century of humiliation by European colonialism.


China, like Israel, is an ethnostate, with a strong commitment to ensuring the future of the race:

One of Deng’s legacies is China’s current strategy of maximizing “Comprehensive National Power”. This includes economic power (GDP, natural resources, energy, manufacturing, infrastructure, owning America’s national debt), military power (cyberwarfare, anti-aircraft-carrier ballistic missiles, anti-satellite missiles), and ‘soft power’ (cultural prestige, the Beijing Olympics, tourism, Chinese films and contemporary art, Confucius Institutes, Shanghai’s skyscrapers). But crucially, Comprehensive National Power also includes “biopower”: creating the world’s highest-quality human capital in terms of the Chinese population’s genes, health, and education ….

 There is unusually close cooperation in China between government, academia, medicine, education, media, parents, and consumerism in promoting a utopian Han ethno-state. Given what I understand of evolutionary behavior genetics, I expect—and hope—that they will succeed. The welfare and happiness of the world’s most populous country depends upon it.

Miller sees this as a threat to the West which continues to put view eugenics from the cultural Marxist perspective:

My real worry is the Western response. The most likely response, given Euro-American ideological biases, would be a bioethical panic that leads to criticism of Chinese population policy with the same self-righteous hypocrisy that we have shown in criticizing various Chinese socio-cultural policies. But the global stakes are too high for us to act that stupidly and short-sightedly. A more mature response would be based on mutual civilizational respect, asking—what can we learn from what the Chinese are doing, how can we help them, and how can they help us to keep up as they create their brave new world?

Another response to the same Edge Big Question is by Douglas Kenrick, an evolutionary psychologist at Arizona State University.

The movie Idiocracy was hardly academy award material, but it began with an interesting premise: Given that there is no strong selection for high IQ in the modern world, less intelligent people are having more children than are more intelligent people. Extrapolating that trend for 500 years, the movie’s producers depicted a world populated by numbskulls. Is this a possibility?

According to Kenrick, it is a possibility. He focuses on people who have large families because there is a negative association between IQ and family size. And he thinks the main reason people have large families is conservative religion. Such people are a danger because they threaten to cut off scientific research which is the lifeblood of a productive economy.

And there is another potential ironic twist. If the population of less educated religiously conservative individuals increases, and continues to vote as they have been voting, funding for education and scientific research is also likely to decrease. A less educated population could contribute not only to an upward shift in population size, but also to a downward economic spiral. … So to the extent that a growing anti-intellectual portion of the population manages to cut funds for education and for scientific research, they effectively cut off the system that feeds what has been the world’s most productive “human capital” machine.

Kenrick manages to do all this without talking about the racial/ethnic angle in America and now pretty much throughout the West. Any policy proposing that lower IQ people should have smaller families would be met with a firestorm of criticism from low IQ groups (Blacks, Latinos) and the entire leftist cultural establishment. One can only imagine the hostility such a policy would be greeted by the New York Times editorial writers. (Miller notes that one reason for China’s one-child policy was to curb dysgenic fertility among rural people because traditionally they had large families.)

And the problem is not really religious conservatives cutting off funding for science. Just today in California, Gov. Jerry Brown said that the University of California and the California State University systems have to cut back on research and formulate plans (like online classes) so that more students can be processed. This will be hugely resisted by the universities, but the writing is on the wall because of a mass influx of low-IQ people in need of high levels of services. In a Wall Street Journal article (“California’s Greek Tragedy“), two Stanford professors, Michael F. Boskin and John F. Cogan,  note that

from the mid-1980s to 2005, California’s population grew by 10 million, while Medicaid recipients soared by seven million; tax filers paying income taxes rose by just 150,000; and the prison population swelled by 115,000. … With 12% of America’s population, California has one third of the nation’s welfare recipients.

So while China is doing everything it can to improve the genetic quality of its population and has a strong sense of being an ethno-state, the U.S. is importing massive numbers of poorly educated, low-IQ types whose need for government services inevitably trumps scientific research and having first-class universities.

Finally, a comment by John Tooby epitomizes how so many evolutionary psychologists completely discount the importance of ethnic collectivities. Indeed, Tooby writes that there is

a second category of menaces—hidden, deadly, ever-adapting, already here—that worry me even more: the evolved monsters from the id that we all harbor (e.g., group identity, the appetite for prestige and power, etc.), together with their disguised offspring, the self-organizing collective delusions that we all participate in, and mistake for reality.

The Chinese and the Israelis have quite obviously developed a strong collective ethnic identity; they have ethno-states that are directed at advancing the interests of a particular ethnic group. And both the Chinese and the Jews have a long history of practicing eugenics within their group (for China, see Miller; for Jews, see Glad or my 1994 book, A People That Shall Dwell Alone). How exactly are these mistakes? These policies are aimed at furthering the ethnic interests of their peoples, while in the West the idea that White people have ethnic/racial interests is derided as without merit — as yet another example lingering racism, etc.

Most evolutionary psychologists have had their heads in the sand when it comes to group conflict and selection between groups (but certainly not Frank Salter).  Tooby continues in this tradition. It’s always struck me as amazing that scientists who purport to take evolution seriously can be completely oblivious to natural selection in the contemporary world. They can easily spot natural selection in the natural world as one animal or sub-species competes with another within an ecological niche, with the result that some genes survive and prosper and some do not. But the decline of Whites in all societies that have been historically White, from Australia to Europe gets nothing but yawns. Not important.

Tooby is also quite aware that the intellectual world is full of ingroups and tribes:

Consider the cascade of collective cognitive pathologies produced in our intellectual coalitions by ingroup tribalism, self-interest, prestige-seeking, and moral one-upsmanship:

That is exactly the thesis of The Culture of Critique, but Tooby would doubtless by horrified at the thought that quite a few of the things intellectuals like him believe are the result of ethnic conflict over the construction of culture where—as in the case of eugenics— Jewish ingroup tribalism has played a critical role, as has moral condemnation of Whites and their culture. All of the Jewish intellectual movements discussed in The Culture of Critique involved moral critiques of the West, most especially for the history of anti-Semitism.

But if, as Miller predicts, the Chinese evolve into a super race by utilizing the principles of eugenics — if they are able to create a society with an even higher average IQ and relatively free of psychiatric disorders, they will enormously increase their competitive ability by being able to have well-ordered, technologically sophisticated societies unhampered by divisive ethnic conflict as the West slides toward idiocracy.

Meanwhile, the West is left to impotent moral outrage—a sure-fire prescription for evolutionary oblivion. Given the role of Jewish intellectuals in creating the current hostility toward eugenics in the West, one must at least entertain the possibility that their motivation has a lot to do with making the peoples of the West less competitive—particularly when we note that Israel is committed to eugenics and I am unaware of Jewish intellectuals in the West criticizing Israeli practices.

National Socialism had a strong concern about securing and preserving the racial future of Germans. It is not surprising then that Jewish hostility toward National Socialism would also extend to hostility toward the ability of Germans (and by extension, other European peoples) to take charge of their own genetic future as championed by many in the classical eugenics movement. In the  end, Jewish opposition to eugenics may be seen as just another aspect of the ongoing ethnic warfare between Jews and Europeans.  (see here)

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107 Comments to "The Big Questions: Eugenics and Ethno-States"

  1. sanjay's Gravatar sanjay
    January 22, 2013 - 4:28 pm | Permalink

    the comments thread was being abused by several posters who were posting mediocre material multiple times.

    In light of deteriorating quality of threads it is advisable that posters should consider submitting incisive, value laden articles (<1000 words) of vital interest to white community on historical and contemporary issues.

    As the ratio of articles to comments is too low, TOO is becoming bottom heavy which is not healthy. This trend must be given new direction.

    Fewer comments and more articles.

  2. Pat Hannagan's Gravatar Pat Hannagan
    January 22, 2013 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    @White Realist: Which comments do you find “embarrassing” and why?

    Personally, I find the comment threads many times just as informative as the essays themselves. Perhaps the blog administrator should explain, out of courtesy, whether a new policy has been enacted and why.

  3. White Realist's Gravatar White Realist
    January 22, 2013 - 2:39 pm | Permalink

    The comments are embarrassing. If this website wants to be taken seriously comments should not be allowed.

  4. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 22, 2013 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone hereabouts have a clue as to why all the most recent article threads are closed?

  5. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:
    Don’t privilege the flexors at the expense of the extensors. 2¢, gratis.

  6. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 21, 2013 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay: I have my own sources, well-informed ones, for health-related advice and counsel.

  7. Tim's Gravatar Tim
    January 21, 2013 - 9:49 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus: The sprawl in America is more than enough for me. The destruction of American free-space and countryside is rampant and appalling, particularly on the coasts. There are too many people here, yet the third world shows how much worse things could get.

  8. January 21, 2013 - 7:00 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    90 min of vigorous exercise every day is the best therapy. @The Admiral On Horseback:
    have you seen physiotherapist for hand exercises. Also, if you have a desk top with a keyboard, get rid of it.

    Buy one of those wedge shaped notebooks and use wrist cushions. do pull ups in the morning if you can. use a better mouse which fits under your fingers well. change your chair height and bring in line with ergonomic posture.

  9. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 21, 2013 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback: I agree with your approach 100 percent.

  10. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 21, 2013 - 1:52 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback: Please forgive the inrusive digression, but have you tried therapeutic levels of vitamin B6 for your RSI? (I ask because it is one of only two medical problems of my own that I succeeded in curing!) If you haven’t yet, take 100 mg of B6 twice or thrice a day—always with at least a bit of food, even half a piece of bread or a few crackers will do, since B vitamins tend to pass straight through the kidneys unless food is present to help the body assimilate them. I experienced almost complete relief within ten days, and the problem disappeared in twenty. Since B6 is dirt cheap, I still take 100 mg every day just for maintenance.

    You probably already know about the usually recommended big three supplements: chondroitin, glucosamine, and MSM (methyl-sulphonyl-methane). MSM is by far the most effective, but its effect is greatly enhanced when it’s taken in combination with the other two.

  11. Longing4abetterworld's Gravatar Longing4abetterworld
    January 21, 2013 - 12:56 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: thanks!

  12. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 21, 2013 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    i know how distressing it is to watch this parody. Be of good cheer. Every action has a reaction. There a millions of young people out there who believed in and supported Obama and are bitterly disillusioned, not only with him but with the entire system which allowed him to win. It can seem darkest just before dawn.

  13. Longing4abetterworld's Gravatar Longing4abetterworld
    January 21, 2013 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Watching the Presidential Inauguration while writing this, after reading this blog, I have to say the White race is doomed. It’s a liberal love-fest out there in D.C., with more security than I have seen anywhere at any time. There are too many divisions in this country with so much diversity. And too much power is going to the other side. I can’t even put my thoughts together enough to write anything meaningful here…sorry. Secession may be the only way out of this mess. And a utopian existence with secession would only be a pipe dream; there would be so many challenges to it that I believe it could/would not happen. No, folks, we older white folks can only look back with fond memories of a once great past. When we’re all gone, they (liberal, multicultural, dark-skinned ‘takers’) will have total control, and the younger white folks will have been brainwashed into a diverse, multicultural lie.

  14. SanMan's Gravatar SanMan
    January 21, 2013 - 3:54 am | Permalink

    What we need is our own state, with our own media, then a 3x child policy so we are always growing and expanding. They want to kill every single white person or mix us into oblivion, well I say we wipe the non-whites out you cant get a better eugenics program then that.

  15. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 20, 2013 - 7:22 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:
    I trust that truth will triumph. It is not only the women who do not buy into feminism who are miserable, those who did are too. The ravages are all around us. Only liberals could managed to take the joy out of sex. One sees young people who are tattered and jaded by 25. Most chilling are people in their thirties whose contemplation of marriage is as calculating and cold as any Borgia and they know it.

    The perils of marriage are so loudly touted few even know of the strength and support derived from the traditional marriage bond. Sometimes I want to cry when I read the shock from these pages that whites do not work together. How does one teach a child of divorced parents what loyalty is?

    Here is a woman willing to tell the truth to power.

  16. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 20, 2013 - 9:01 am | Permalink

    @Jim Summers:

    That’s a petition done by a member of the BUGS group. We use the term ‘genocide’ because that is a legal definition, per the UN Treaty on Genocide. Genocide does not require violence. The attempt to destroy in whole or in part, a specific people, is genocide according to international law.

    We don’t go with anyone’s homebrewed definition of genocide, because most think it is limited to lining people up and shooting them. The drafter of law on genocide stated that most genocides have not used required such violence.

    So, from that standpoint, we aren’t particularly interested what someone thinks the definition of genocide is, we go with the legal one.

  17. Jim Summers's Gravatar Jim Summers
    January 19, 2013 - 10:00 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    Who are you petitioning? I heard Dr. MacDonald on the Jim Giles show recently and he said that “genocide” is too strong of a term to use for the current situation White Americans find themselves in.

  18. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 19, 2013 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    Sorry about the RSI. That is scary for all of us. Do they have good treatments? Does rest or rehab help?

  19. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 19, 2013 - 5:15 pm | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback:

    Well, I don’t think the controls on who can sign the petition are very strong. They just confirm your email after you create an account.

  20. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2013 - 4:11 pm | Permalink


    I want to use this comment space just to say thanks for doing the pro-White things you do.

  21. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    January 19, 2013 - 3:37 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: The funny thing is that if the anti-whites are right that noone has genetic interests, then people should be willing to do just that. But of course they know people have genetic interests; its only white people they demand sacrifice them.

  22. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2013 - 1:45 pm | Permalink

    I’m not really familiar with the history of eugenics or what kind of technology is available today. Or what might be possible in the future. But I still have some thoughts that I want to share, in case it helps somehow.

    I figure eugenics and the many related issues are complex. That’s like a lot of things — there are so many perspectives from which it can be seen or questioned.

    I wonder if it is possible to have a humane, compassionate, ethical, wise eugenics program. Of course there might be the potential for misuse.

    Something popped into my mind. An idea that I had many months ago. About eugenics.

    In my vision of an ideal society (or at least a saner society than the present one we live in), unhealthy people would make a selfless, loving decision not to have children. And physically and mentally healthy couples (especially beautiful couples) would choose to have many children. They would receive plenty of support and encouragement from society.

    On a totally unrelated note, I want to let others know about yet another anti-White commercial for State Farm insurance.

  23. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2013 - 9:38 am | Permalink


    Having an “opinion” in a TOO thread, UNLESS you are out deploying practical politics talking points and taking on anti-Whites …. is basically useless.

    Hi Gregor

    It sounds like you are claiming that most of this site, its articles and the comments under them, is useless. Which is something I disagree with.

    Isn’t your comment an opinion?

    I do agree with you that pro-White activism, outside of T.O.O., can be a great thing.

  24. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    January 19, 2013 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    @The Admiral On Horseback: I used first person plural, but I’m not really a Mantra person. Anyway, I find their approach useful, and tend to use those panels and talking points of them I find useful or easy to incorporate into my comments or everyday conversations anywhere.

  25. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    January 19, 2013 - 8:49 am | Permalink

    This comment is trapped in moderation in the Jewish Origins of Multiculturalism in Sweden thread, but applies equally here. – the Barbara Lerner Spectre youtube should be used wherever an opening occurs; I posted it last night to the Washington Post thread about White genocide, with the comment, “The process is global and organized.” In just a little over a minute, we see Jewish deception (“non-denominational Institute for Jewish Learning with the Greek name of Paideia”; we see and hear in Spectre’s facial expressions, tone, and words, the extraordinary Jewish sense of entitlement to walk into a conspicuously White country and set up shop for the express purpose of transforming that country’s population, hence its culture and inevitably it’s genetic composition; we hear out of the horse’s mouth that Jews are self-designated leaders of planned race transformation without which “Europe won’t survive,” which acknowledges Jews as as a distinct group, separate from Whites, with their own objectives which are to the detriment of Whites. – Jesse Jackson in Sweden is not nearly as potent as the Spectre/Paideia project, but it’s notable for the sheer illogic of the things he says: contrasting American behavior with the “civilized” behavior of the Swedish people, he states “this is what democracy looks like.” Is it possible that he and his audience actually don’t realize that this is not what democracy looks like, it’s what a homogeneous European White society looks like. Jesse Jackson all by himself or with fellow Blacks would not be standing there, telling those Swedes that they must “open their doors” and “embrace multiculturalism” without the awareness of Jewish power behind them.

  26. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    January 19, 2013 - 8:11 am | Permalink

    @sanjay: You don’t understand. We don’t care if the Jew listens or not (actually, better not!), we only do this to spread awareness in fellow Whites, and also to show them that the Jew doesn’t care at all.

  27. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    January 19, 2013 - 8:04 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I’m not quite familiar with this petition thing (I have of course heard about the proposal to build the Death Star), but can foreigners (not American citizens not even residing in the US) sign it? If the answer is affirmative, I will dig deeper how to do that, but my initial guess is it’s simply not worth the effort, especially since my time at the computer is limited by RSI in my hand caused by too much computer work.

  28. sanjay's Gravatar sanjay
    January 19, 2013 - 2:09 am | Permalink

    @Harumphty Dumpty:
    i havent. i wont. sorry. if a gentile petitions a jew, will the jew listen?

  29. sanjay's Gravatar sanjay
    January 19, 2013 - 2:02 am | Permalink

    @Bob Wallace:
    i agree. the “take over the world” fear mongering is childish. but chinese & muslims do have the numbers. japan/germany did not.
    thx for the sobering comments. I do debate in person and online to defeat anti-whites. under different names. but u r right. i dont have billions to help. thats my weakness.
    you mean if welfare is abolished, white births will rise again? religion, simple lifestyle is known to boost fertility.

  30. 91's Gravatar 91
    January 19, 2013 - 1:31 am | Permalink

    @Bob Wallace:
    Are the north Chinese tall?

  31. 91's Gravatar 91
    January 19, 2013 - 1:30 am | Permalink

    Are there 200 MILLION homeless there?
    ‘Traveling, poor, day workers’?

  32. January 19, 2013 - 1:26 am | Permalink


    WHY do I come here. I know what I’ll find.

    no one cares. TV dominates public opinion. its amazing how long (80 yrs) whites have allowed jews to control media. so shocking, its unbelievable.

    It’s not unbelievable at all. All I have to do is read your resigned comment and the many resigned or fantastical comments of others here and I understand exactly how it happened.

    Your assumption that someone ELSE should have done what was necessary then, when you won’t do what is necessary now, is the only thing that’s “amazing.”

    For example. I’ll bet you haven’t signed these three petitions and have no intention of signing either them or their successors that will be coming out every month for the next four years so that we can build up to a Million Name March on Washington, D.C. to STOP White GeNOcide in December, 2016.

    I’ll bet that although you’d claim to understand that propaganda is effective, that you’ll have no interest at all in being a part of that propaganda campaign to save your own race.

    Why don’t you sign anyway. it might give you a surprising feeling, and be a first small step to drawing yourself out of your demoralization.

  33. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 19, 2013 - 12:25 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: As much as I hate his legacy, FDR nailed it when he called govt benefits a “subtle destroyer of the human spirit.” We see that now Europeans who were once willing to risk everything to carve out a living in the New World don’t even have the willpower to defend their culture and its future.

  34. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 19, 2013 - 12:18 am | Permalink

    @sanjay: Again, look at the disaggregated figures (“universal welfare” is a misnomer, as the Israeli system targets different constituencies unequally). It’s the haredim and Arab Israelis’ birthrates that are high, not secular Israeli Jews. In the case of the former, for whom preferential welfare treatment is reserved, the family is the business. Arab Israelis’ access to welfare is more restricted, and my guess is that this feeds into their higher birthrate vis-à-vis secular Israeli Jews (or maybe, denied equal social mobility, Arabs have chosen safety in numbers instead).

  35. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 18, 2013 - 11:47 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: I mean what’s the incentive to work hard, innovate, and have a family when you will be bled to death by taxation and will see despicable freeloaders having a comfortable life at your expense? What made Europeans so vigorous and successful were conditions that necessitated group strategy and innovation. OTOH Egypt, for example, had the arvantages of natural defenses and immense agricultural potential, but it stagnated for centuries while tiny and impoverished Greece would spread its influence to India and lay the foundations for the modern world.

  36. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    January 18, 2013 - 10:58 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay: Sanjay, nobody cares about you saying (yet again) what everyone knows. Repeating the obvious here is even worse than TV.

    Having an “opinion” in a TOO thread, UNLESS you are out deploying practical politics talking points and taking on anti-Whites …. is basically useless.

  37. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2013 - 10:08 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay: Collectivism even in Israel hasn’t worked as planned: case in point – the kibbutz, now a curiosity mainly for foreigners. Israelis prefer to look after their own kids.

  38. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2013 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

    @Marcus: In many parts of Europe, youth get government allowances without which they’d be stuck at home, respecting the house rules. Emptying granny’s bed pan and getting an earful of her lumbago. Now the kids get paid to leave, and the Ukrainian carer gets to bond with the old one. Government solution: import more Ukrainians to remedy dearth of carers. Hilarious.

  39. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2013 - 9:37 pm | Permalink

    GDP is a seriously flawed proxy for economic health, incommensurable.

  40. January 18, 2013 - 9:23 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay: “blacks use same points against whites. penis size, short, scrawny….
    you sure you arent Andrea Nyx hemera who uses multiple names to push interracial fetish?”

    Blacks have a mean genetic IQ 85. If they had never existed the world would have never noticed.

    A lot of white people are idiots, including at this site, and I’m white.

    The Nazis are going to take over the world!!! The Commies are going to take over the world!!! The Japanese are going to take over the world!!! The Muslims are going to take over the world!!!

    And now…the Chinese are going to breed themselves smarter than us and TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!

    Anyone who acts like this should be ashamed of himself.

  41. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    January 18, 2013 - 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Excuse the typos.. meant –

    **I just went through all the comments there.. The anti-white crowd got completely annihilated.. Nice job!!

  42. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 18, 2013 - 9:00 pm | Permalink

    @sanjay: Yeah I’m not sure how bragging about marrying Asian women belongs on a white advocacy site. In any case, women who choose their mates due to penis size or hairiness aren’t worth the effort IMO, what a degenerate.

  43. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 18, 2013 - 8:52 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: I agree, the welfare state saps the vitality of the population. I think this is a major factor in Europe’s decline.

  44. sanjay's Gravatar sanjay
    January 18, 2013 - 8:50 pm | Permalink

    @Bob Wallace:
    blacks use same points against whites. penis size, short, scrawny….
    you sure you arent Andrea Nyx hemera who uses multiple names to push interracial fetish?
    israel has universal welfare. and jewish births have exploded. but you may be partly right.

  45. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    January 18, 2013 - 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Washington Post Comments Live
    8:40 PM EST

    The process is global and organized.

  46. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2013 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Aggregates don’t reveal the problem. The lack of balance in certain age brackets is the critical one, and this cannot be engineered away. (If there is a gender imbalance in 20-30 age band, having a different mix of babies now won’t address that particular mismatch, even though the aggregate returns to mean).

    Much of the current Chinese economic policy seems dedicated to keeping these teeming masses of single men in employment, regardless of the utility of the project. Too many of the ruling elite were alive in ’49 not to realize the danger presented by millions of young males with no hope of finding a mate, impoverished, and with no prospect of bettering themselves. This social engineering experiment hasn’t fully played out yet.

  47. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    January 18, 2013 - 8:36 pm | Permalink

    The White Genocide Petition is being discussed on MSNBC and this story by the Washington Post:

    I just went through all the comments there.. The anti-white got completely alienated.. Nice job!!

  48. Roger's Gravatar Roger
    January 18, 2013 - 8:14 pm | Permalink

    It was probably Plato and Aristotle who first popularized eugenics:

  49. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2013 - 8:04 pm | Permalink

    @confederate patriot jeff:
    Indeed. It surprises me little that the great Bismarckian project of universal welfare coincides with a decline in family size across the modern world. Children used to represent security for parents in their dotage and, coincidently, the West wasn’t plagued by demographic problems. The parent-child compact has been supplanted to an extent by State or State-mandated pensions and benefits for the aged.

    Diminishing the family’s primary role as a mechanism for survival, and rendering it more an affective structure isn’t free of consequences.

  50. January 18, 2013 - 7:15 pm | Permalink

    The Chinese can engage in eugenics all they want but they will always remain short, scrawny, hairless and effeminate – and with small penises. All those things is why they can’t get white women and lose Asian women to white men.

    They also lack creativity and inventiveness. If they were meant to be a great race they would have been a great race thousands of years ago.

    Human ants are nothing we need to imitate.

  51. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    January 18, 2013 - 5:02 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Jason that is such a good point. The more we spread “white genocide” the easier it will be for the Jared Taylors of the world to sound moderate and reasonable when taking pro-White positions.

  52. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 18, 2013 - 4:51 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Oh, and go sign the thing. The bigger the numbers the better. This will break out into general political conversation in the next few years, especially after the GOP loses again 2016 (unless they get radicalized earlier, which is not likely).

    And I assure you, none of the commentators know how to respond to the White Genocide claim. They can only say “it’s crazy”. But the moment they start trying to discuss it, the spread the underlying concept, to their detriment.

    Sign the petition. It’s gotten national press coverage. You don’t have to agree with every part of it to understand that it is yet another way to advance the cause.

    In fact, the rest of you can position yourselves as “reasonable pro-Whites” as against us freaks, later on. So go sign it!

  53. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 18, 2013 - 4:38 pm | Permalink

    The White Genocide Petition is being discussed on MSNBC and this story by the Washington Post:

  54. sanjay's Gravatar sanjay
    January 18, 2013 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    no one cares. TV dominates public opinion. its amazing how long (80 yrs) whites have allowed jews to control media. so shocking, its unbelievable.

  55. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    January 18, 2013 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Read the comments and see the war taking place against the anti-whites!

    Share with friends, but highlight the comments. This is a major “outing” of how the anti-white media works, but it just allows us to ride their tiger with our knives on its jugular, slicing the anti-white narrative to pieces in full public view.

    Thanks, WashPo!

  56. confederate patriot jeff's Gravatar confederate patriot jeff
    January 18, 2013 - 11:47 am | Permalink

    i must posit the view here that seems to have not been mentioned, and perhaps it is due to most bloggers here being believers in evolution of the species(which i am not, but do believe it within A species. i am a creationist.) that said, does it not seem like there is a natural recurrance to a form of “justice” in how we see eugenics work out outside of what we all know to be the normal familial environment ?? ie the traditional family that transpires after mates are chosen or picked individually from ones one racial/ethnic group.

    such as the problem with too many boys in china, shopping for “ideal” genes by lesbians and homosexuals (who are sure to rear a majority of confused adults who will fail to function as a good society), and the disunity and failure of multiculturalism, as multiculturalism is as surely a eugenics program as any on earth !!
    as a creationist, i see plainly that when man attempts to thwart “the laws of nature and of natures God” past a certain point, we always end up collapsing back to square one in order to start over. this to me seems to be more proof of the over-riding “Providence” of the “Great Being” spoken of by our founders. in other words, when we take our eye off “goodness” being the primary goal as a people(in the true sense of (kilth and kin and liberty righly construed), we seem to always precipitate a speedy demise for ourselves.
    just my thoughts.

  57. Jim Summers's Gravatar Jim Summers
    January 18, 2013 - 11:38 am | Permalink

    The problem with Whites is that they can’t form a successful group survival strategy until they stop wanting to live in intellectual and emotional harmony with the State. The high IQ White high school student gets an A on his “Slavery in the Old South” term paper and soon afterwards becomes an anti-White advocate. Most White parents today don’t even teach their children that you can have one view in the public sphere and an opposite view in the private sphere. Dr. MacDonald’s colleague Tomislav Sunic has made the point quite often how in the old Soviet bloc the Professors knew that what they were being forced to teach their students was trash and when they went home they would admit to their families that it was all nonsense. However, Whites in the western world live in total unity with Political Correctness. Admire Martin Luther King Jr. at school, admire him at home, even praise him in youtube comments and in Amazon book reviews for FREE.

  58. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    January 18, 2013 - 8:32 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: I agree feminism places women who don’t buy into it in a difficult to impossible position. I think it is the reason dating in the traditional sense doesn’t go on much anymore. If a woman prefers a more traditional way of doing things, she will have a hard time finding it and be forced to go too far to get companionship outside of marriage. Marriage and responsibility from the potential partner is clouded by the man’s sense of alienation from his former role in society as head of the house and provider.
    As Trenchant has said, the natural order of things will take over eventually, but in the direction we are going, it might take 500 years to correct the mistakes of the last 50.

  59. 91's Gravatar 91
    January 18, 2013 - 1:28 am | Permalink

    Actually India is now the most gender imbalanced country!

  60. 91's Gravatar 91
    January 18, 2013 - 1:26 am | Permalink

    O, really? The first 100,000,000 imported into a built USA
    [since 1965, blame LBJ and Teddy] have already ruined the USA.

    And that is in 48? years. Actually more like 30 years.

  61. January 18, 2013 - 12:17 am | Permalink

    pension gap is due to early retirement, not one child. japanese retire at 70, chinese at 50, 55, or 60.
    its def. cruel. but Chinese incomes have mult. 4X in last 10y. coal creates air/water pollution, not one child. US controls oil/gas, which china lacks. but china is coal rich. so china burns goal to stay free from Jewish parasite controlled US.

  62. January 18, 2013 - 12:03 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    its chicken vs egg. Media indoctrinates white women with feminism. Feminism replaces children with TV and video.

    eliminate parasitic jewish media from homes, and 50% problem will be solved.

  63. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    January 17, 2013 - 10:54 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: I see Chinese history as the 4000 year imperial project of assimilating all the people of East Asia. The Han were originally a small(er) ethnic group who lived around the Yellow River and probably in modern Sichuan. If you look at modern China, this is probably less than 1/4 of the territory. The Han, with their superior culture have assimilated militarily/physically superior Turkic/Mongol tribes who conquered them, just as they have assimilated physically inferior Yue/Zhuang/Hmong/Tibetan tribes whom they conquered. All groups have a significant Had genetic admixture, and all groups were utterly dominated by Han culture.

    While all assimilated groups (other than the Tocharians, who were probably white) were Asiatic/Mongoloid races, they weren’t necessarily closely related to the Han (the Tibetans and Burmans might be). But that might be irrelevant. I theory, the Hungarians and Estonians aren’t closely related to other Europeans, but they sure look whiter than a lot of Greeks or Italians. Of course, the Chinese project has been stalled at the current borders of the PRC–with the exception of Singapore and Malaysia (and possibly Thailand and Indonesia) where it continues in an attenuated form thanks to the British. What is relevant is that the Vietnamese will probably never end up like the their racial cousins the Yue, who are today’s Cantonese.

  64. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 17, 2013 - 9:26 pm | Permalink

    If the State-imposed hierarchy were replaced by a natural hierarchy, an automatic reorganization of social gradations would occur. Women would pick partners along Darwinian lines, ie. intelligence, wealth, health, and fidelity would be tend to be selected in a mate.

  65. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 17, 2013 - 8:47 pm | Permalink

    The State screws up everything, and nothing more tragically than race. To suggest that the cruel one-child-policy is a success is premature. How many individual lives must be ruined to judge it a national success? Aborted female foetuses have given rise to an enormous pool of single men, many of whom will never find a partner. Hordes of young, single, angry, under or unemployed males smells like ’49 all over again, with the attendant deaths.

    The economy looks terrible, the environment no better. Toxic rivers and atmosphere probably don’t augur well for future generations’ health.

    Historically, marriage was an institution entirely out of the State’s bailiwick – can anyone argue that the family as an institution has been strengthened by its inclusion in the State’s ambit?

    Socialism is dysgenic, multicultural or otherwise.

  66. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 17, 2013 - 7:50 pm | Permalink


    “The kind of creativity I engage in is not painting, or drawing, or composing music, or writing fiction, but rather a very urgent kind of creativity — how Whites need to live to have better lives in the sick modern life.”

    I heartily agree that creativity is not limited to painting, music, etc.

    I’ve been thinking a lot about creativity lately. And it’s relationship to the pro-White movement.

    Famous German-born spiritual author Eckhart Tolle says there is an awareness (also known as stillness or presence) underneath all thoughts. (The word “underneath” is used metaphorically.) And that awareness is the source of creativity. He also claims that we are that awareness.

  67. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2013 - 4:35 pm | Permalink

    @The Goy Chevalier:
    The Atlantic magazine recently ran an article that came close to describing the impossible position feminism has placed women in. The expected outrage at truth telling had her at some conference on CSPAN. As she apologized and tried to wiggle her way out of trouble she commented that this opened up wonderful new possibilities. Her example was four people, a gay couple and a lesbian couple, who shared a child together. It was all wonderful. Four parents, one child – all so much easier. Ahhhh the brave new world. I salute the French for standing up to this notion that a child can be had and shared by whomever might care to join the party. It was bad enough when people treated pets like children, pathetic but harmless. Now we treat children like pets – the new accessory of the week. Evil – true evil.

    I have noted of late that there is a new construction abroad in the land. “I am mother to four children’ I presume this is to include all children which one cares for but has not borne. I suspect it is kindly meant in the new world of blended families but to destroy or minimize, even by word, the bond between mother and child chills me to the bone.

  68. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2013 - 4:21 pm | Permalink

    i rather doubt the educated white reproduction rate can be blamed on lack of activity. Undoubtedly the media and many other factors play a part, but I am holding to poisonous feminism as the primary cause.

  69. Annis's Gravatar Annis
    January 17, 2013 - 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Welfare and other social programs have dumbed down the black race on a massive scale. Now we have millions of blacks who are physically healthy, big and brawny, totally, permanently dependent, low IQ and prone to violence.

    How do we know what will result from China’s eugenics program? jews are supposed to have higher intelligence than Nordic White people but look long and hard at what comes out of the minds of jews. They are the most destructive race God ever let live. I could say more but I’d probably get censored for it.

    So what do we know about what really smart Chinese would contribute to the world? They are not like Nordic White people any more than jews are. We know that Nordic White people contribute positive and good things that benefit mankind, but we don’t know that about other races. We would colonize other planets and find cures for cancers, but what would the Chinese do?

    Its vital that White people have a eugenics program. If jews run the world it’ll be a world wide Soviet Union for those allowed to survive. That is an idea that proceeds out of the brains of jews. When Nordic Whites are not around any longer what will jews do without their host who is responsible for the quality of their lives and all life on Earth?

  70. The Admiral On Horseback's Gravatar The Admiral On Horseback
    January 17, 2013 - 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Off topic

    I would be interested in Dr. MacDonald’s comments on Eran Elhaik’s Khazar hypothesis, actually he seems to have found some strong genetic data supporting it.

    It’s so much at odds with anything I have recently read on Jewish genetics, that it seems to be very difficult to believe. Yet of course nothing’s totally impossible.

  71. Dirk's Gravatar Dirk
    January 17, 2013 - 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Concerning eugenetic practices in Israel there was an interesting article about this in a Dutch newspaper last year:

    Just throw it through Google translation and read about all the echos, bloodtests and check-ups.

    In China people are very conscious about race (and health). The common belief is that the yellow man is the ultimate human being, the rest are lesser beings: Whites are hairy and smelly, Blacks are stupid and brutal, etc. Chinese society is also highly competitive.
    One child-policy has one large disadvantage though and that is that there is a huge pension-gap.

  72. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 17, 2013 - 2:33 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius: I see your point and thank you for it; it’s quite unsurprisingly good. I think, though, that one could put the matter somewhat differently: that the Chinese simply define Chineseness in rather broader terms than Bantus define Bantuness or Gypsies Gypsyness. The limits of their ethne being once so defined, however, the Chinese seem to have (and have had) a clearly marked thus-far-and-no-farther attitude, with very little elasticity.

    I contrast these three group’s attitudes, which I think are brothers under the skin, with that of the Croatian gentleman who commented briefly but very interestingly several months ago (he endured a good deal of pointless ethnic abuse, as I recall, before he understandably gave up) on how Croatians and Serbians and Slovenians settle matters of ethnic loyalty and identity (i.e., given the genetic confusion that reigns in the former Yugoslavian lands and elsewhere in that part of the world). To reduce his explanation to a few inadequate words, he said it’s usually a default option of going with the ethnic identification of one’s father, though there is also the option of overriding the default by choosing to self-identify with one’s mother’s people. Who you are in practice thus becomes, to a limited but noteworthy degree, a question of private choice.

    The Croatian gentleman took a lot of scorn and open derision for speaking as he did. Yet it strikes me as plain that, in rather less extreme form, this is the working model of how ethnicity plays out in Europe and, to a far, far greater extent, here in the States, where (certain very dear Greek- and Sicilian-descended friends being the exceptions) polyglot ancestry is far more often the norm than the exception.

    Whatever the merits of the last two paragraphs’ observations and ruminations, I’d appreciate reading anything you care to write about my Chinese-related comments.

  73. Joachim Dresden's Gravatar Joachim Dresden
    January 17, 2013 - 2:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m for some form of eugenics but would not necessarily emphasize IQ because there are other positive attributes that need to be retained such as strength, mental stability, resourcefulness, and others. Filtering for IQ might create a population of neurotics and sociopaths. Besides, I don’t IQ is our problem. It didn’t keep us whites from failing to protect our culture and race.

  74. January 17, 2013 - 2:04 pm | Permalink

    This was surprising, though it shouldn’t have been. The Chinese leadership, for all its faults, seems at least to be pro-Chinese. We need something analogous here. Linked, quoted, and riffed on here:

  75. January 17, 2013 - 1:21 pm | Permalink

    This is a serious issue, and seems difficult, and it’s a relief to return to the debates of the 1920s and 1930s (after getting on for 100 years of censorship). Malthus used to be an important topic, but has been suppressed, I suppose, by Jews – there’s a Marxist view that overpopulation is a ‘bourgeois myth’, and the comment on the indifference of evolutionists to the human condition is imho driven by Jews too – for example Dawkins is great friends with the Jewsih-dominated ‘skeptics’.

    NB one of the arguments against eugenics was that poor people aren’t necessary inferior -they may be exploited, or in fact better or less ruthless.

    Can I just make one point about genetic ‘defects’. On of the most common is sickle-cell anaemia: there are various forms but (I think) all involve odd forms of red blood cells and/or haemoglobin: malaria parasites find it hard to live in the cells, but they aren’t very good at storing oxygen. The French have quite a high incidence among invader births. What should be done?

    There’s something analogous, but technologically-driven, which is diabetes where insulin is completely or mostly missing. Such people previously never became adults, but with insulin they can. (NB there seems to be a move, with ‘type 2 diabetes’, to pretend the condition is quite common).

    Surely there’s a case with these things to remove them?

  76. The Goy Chevalier's Gravatar The Goy Chevalier
    January 17, 2013 - 1:13 pm | Permalink

    It really boils down to the Jews having successfully taken advantage of a flaw specifically inherent in the Western mind/brain. Nothing else can explain this madness.

    We do have, in effect, pseudo-eugenics programs in this country (United States), but they are peculiar in that they are, like everything else here, the product of corporate interests and a consumer mentality. It’s needless to point out the irony that this depraved cultural institution functions primarily in the Jewish-created sphere of the Left. Obviously, I am alluding to the practice of sperm/egg “donation” and test-tube baby production. Faggots, queers, dykes, trannies, and all sorts of other mentally challenged individuals now have, sanctioned by Jews and their depraved cohorts, the ability to “shop” for children. Samples are not accepted from women or men who do not meet extremely high criteria of mental and physical performance. Your typical dyke or faggot — who, by virtue of the laws of nature shouldn’t even be alive, and according to virtually every system of measurement in history should be at the very least locked up in an institution receiving treatment — literally goes shopping for their child. That’s right, the Jews, homos, queers and all the filth whine incessantly about elitism, moral universalism, equality (literally a leveling), etc. then turn around and in the most elite but purile manner select seed based on specific mental and physical characteristics.

    Obviously, the ethno-state must come before the state-sanctioned eugenics program. I still just have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that Whites willingly — actively — destroy themselves. I think every self-hating White who doesn’t live in New York City should be forced to live there for at least six months, just to really see how well “multiculti” works for White people. Shit, even in D.C. now you can’t go to the diner and order food from a White woman. No hometown waitresses anymore, none of that, just some Lolita or Juanita who can’t even tell you what’s in the d!!d pancakes…I can’t believe Whites continue to accept service from people who can’t even speak the d!!d language, let alone encourage their presence.

  77. January 17, 2013 - 12:41 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara:

    China, which won its war

    What war? WWII? It was the Russians that chased the Japanese out of Manchuria, which left the Nationalist Chinese in a war with the Communist Chinese. Most people would feel foolish to point out that the Chinese won that war.

    (China) has no Jews, shows what a normal nation is like.

    Watching this video reminds me of the old joke, the first part of which is:
    How many Jews does it take to have so much influence that they appear to control a country?

  78. Loretta's Gravatar Loretta
    January 17, 2013 - 12:29 pm | Permalink

    ”But if, as Miller predicts, the Chinese evolve into a super race by utilizing the principles of eugenics — if they are able to create a society with an even higher average IQ and relatively free of psychiatric disorders”

    There is a strong link between psychosis and creativity. I do not think the Chinese will be able to turn in the long term a more creative and smart with this kind of eugenics.

  79. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 17, 2013 - 11:13 am | Permalink

    @Mindweapon: I think that a lot of the “aid” to Africa has been in the form of “sex education” and birth control. However the natives aren’t going to change their reproductive patterns any time soon. Maybe AIDS or some other epidemic will curb population growth.

  80. January 17, 2013 - 9:23 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    If the ruling elites are doing population control in Africa, it’s fine with me.

  81. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2013 - 7:47 am | Permalink

    Would you be more specific?

  82. January 17, 2013 - 7:15 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Doesn’t bother me, if it’s even true.

  83. January 17, 2013 - 7:09 am | Permalink


    It’s only anecdotal, but I am very creative.

    Their measure of people “who engage in racially stereotyped thinking” could be very narrow and not include lots of the sort of people who care about the White race.

    The kind of creativity I engage in is not painting, or drawing, or composing music, or writing fiction, but rather a very urgent kind of creativity — how Whites need to live to have better lives in the sick modern life. Many people who comment on my blog or interview me on the radio say that I “think outside the box.”

    White natioanilst commentary in general is very creative. We are very dynamic and responsive thinkers.

  84. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2013 - 7:08 am | Permalink

    The planet does have a carrying capacity. I admit that I hate crowds and feel that the USA is already overpopulated.

    The more serious problem is that we all proceed bravely ahead, absolutely confident that if our intentions are good nothing else matters. On the other hand, I fear that if population control had been part of the deal the leaders in Africa would have simply killed off some more of their enemies. This is an issue that troubles me and I have no clear position. We live in a world which not only refuses to treat AIDS like any other communicable disease (let us ignore for the moment the questions about the reality of AIDS) but actually gives victims testosterone so that they are more willing and able to spread it! I have seen no one in public life that responsibility for all subsequent victims.

    I presume that the paucity of comments on this thread suggests that I am not alone in my moral confusion.

  85. Reality Check's Gravatar Reality Check
    January 17, 2013 - 7:00 am | Permalink


    Natives’ scores are not surprising – it’s correlated with national IQs. There is quite a difference among immigrants’s scores where available which prompts an analysis.

    Those in Hong Kong, Singapore, Macao Australia and New Zealand can probably be attributable to high number of Orientals from neighboring countries resettling there. Canada, the only other significant Western nation where immigrants have scored high also has a large proportion of immigrants from East Asia.

    In Finland, the country with the highest scoring native population, and all other European nations, the immigrant population’s scores are dismal. Referring back to non-European native populations’ scores, is that possibly due to high number of African and Middle Easterners?

    The United States seem to be a mixed bag.

    Those figures of course have long term implications in reference to the topic of eugenics. For example, in Western countries, Canada, Australia and New Zealand will fare better than all of Europe in terms of economic vigor. The United States will be somewhere in the middle.

  86. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 17, 2013 - 6:49 am | Permalink

    @Michael Fitzgerald: “Israeli women are “heavily pressured to engage in selection of their embryos, or, in the ultra-Orthodox community, to marry according to ‘genetic compatibility.’”

    Reading this statement in the quote by Professor MacDonald conjured up horrific images of a naked Golda Meir or Madeline Albright, holding an Israeli UZI aimed at some hapless Israeli guy, who despite the 500 mg sized viagra dose that is in his system, still finds himself unable to perform his assigned duties.

  87. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 17, 2013 - 6:41 am | Permalink

    @tadzio: In the Richard Lynn book, “IQ and the Wealth of Nations” – didn’t I see a review of that book and it’s findings on Vdare about the time it originally was released, and unless my memory is failing me, Israel clocked in on the average IQ scale somewhere in the low to mid 90s?

    Granted, the Ashkenazim strain of jews is, per Professor MacDonald’s work, where most of the brains are – and that appears to be a relatively small percentage of the Israeli population over all. Thus, just as the USA’s average IQ score is seriously dragged down by the presence of blacks and mestizos and other less gifted minorities – the same is probably also true for Israel.

  88. Freeborn's Gravatar Freeborn
    January 17, 2013 - 5:54 am | Permalink

    Eugenics sure as Hell is practised in the Jewish ethno-state. 8.5% Israeli children are corralled into special needs education. Numerous racial experiments with radioactive materials were conducted on Sephardi children in 1951:

    Dr Chaim Sheba, the Rothschild statelet’s first Surgeon General obsession with controlling the genetic health of Sephardi migrants from N.Africa ensured that during 1948-55 the Israeli health budget was one-fifth of the amount spent on the radiation programme.

    Ashkenazi ethnosupremacism begat Israel and its eugenic programme.

    Eugenics is

  89. January 17, 2013 - 1:08 am | Permalink

    the PISA chart for test scores link by native and immigrant status.

  90. January 17, 2013 - 1:07 am | Permalink

    nonsense. its a worldwide threat except Europe and America. you can easily research the number of births on internet.
    @Alice Teller:
    low fertility is due to mass media. there was power outage in texas due to hurricane a few years ago and 9m later there was a baby boom. no tv, no video, couples didnt know what to do other than primal things. amish dont have tv, video, radio. they have 4 kids on average.
    there is no shortage. unemployment is 5% in Japan, 5+% in China. its just jewish media deception to boost non-white births.
    bad ideas are more dangerous to creative thinking than stereotyping. recognizing which ideas are destructive, which ones aren’t and the ability to crush them without sacrificing freedom of speech and thought is hallmark of sophisticated groups.
    high marriage and fertility rates of intelligent, successful people is much better than technology. its also more practical and “normal”.
    right criteria is wealth, intellect, beauty, energy, good judgement, ability.
    If anything, KMac under-emphasizes. To me, a country with 90%+population from one group is ethnostate. Israel is becoming more and more ethnostate every year. jewish births rising, arab births declining.
    @Michael Fitzgerald:
    in Israel there is strong social pressure for intelligent, accomplished, wealthy people to breed. that is eugenics.
    @James O’Meara:
    true. most of east asia is jew free and there is robust ethnic pride.
    not sure. why whites are so susceptible to deception. KMac did great job understanding the enemy, but we need to understand ourselves more. the northern hunter-gatherer theory is inadequate, lacks foundation.
    this chart shows PISA scores for natives and migrants in Europe, US, Israel. Europe is importing low IQ 3rd world, Israel is importing high IQ Jews. In a few years Israel will be at top.@Pierre de Craon:
    china had inbuilt eugenics because bureaucracy (mandarinate) was selected with written exams, physical health, ability, and paid well. population was generally conditioned for meritocracy.

  91. thm's Gravatar thm
    January 16, 2013 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

    @Michael Fitzgerald:

    In the news recently — imagine the outrage if any European ethnic country did this, yet only silence from the mainstream media about this story:

    Jerusalem Post: Ethiopian women required to get implanted birth control before being allowed to immigrate to Israel


    A program aired on Israel Educational Television on Sunday revealed that Ethiopian Jewish women awaiting aliya were given long-lasting birth-control while in transit camps. According to the report, the clinics were run by the Joint Distribution Committee and Israel’s Health Ministry.

    The drug, administered every 12 weeks, is known as Depo-Provera, a hormonal, injectable contraceptive known as the “birth-control shot.” Although it has existed for around 30 years, it is not widely used. Only about five percent of women elect to use this method of birth control in the US.

    Yet it appears that it was chosen as an easy and effective choice for women in Ethiopia about to emigrate. According to the report, the practice of providing Depo-Provera disproportionately to Ethiopian women was continued after their arrival in Israel.

    The central question this raises is to what degree the women were provided with an informed choice. Also, was the decision to administer this shot tinged with racism and paternalism? One Ethiopian woman claimed, in an interview with Haaretz: “We said we won’t have the shot. They told us, if you don’t, you won’t go to Israel…. We didn’t have a choice.”

  92. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 16, 2013 - 10:35 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: I don’t think that overpopulation is a threat all over the world, only some Muslim and Sub-Saharan countries. Also maybe some cramped mega cities. If only the globalist a had followed Kissinger’s advice and made handouts contingent upon population control measures.

  93. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 16, 2013 - 10:25 pm | Permalink

    I am not as sure that we need massive numbers of intelligent people and I suspect that as suggested in Coming Apart by Charles Murray our brightest are intermarrying to a greater extent than in the past. The trouble is that we are having fewer children.

    I would support free sterilization and make forced sterilization a condition for welfare after two children. I would also consider it for any mother who allows her child to be severely hurt or killed by anyone in the household.

    I admit that I hate to even think about these matters. I have a tough time obeying the wise country rule of never feeding wild animals. Yet the population growth all over the world threatens far more suffering.

  94. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 16, 2013 - 9:35 pm | Permalink

    It seems like there is a major threat of labor shortage, of all things, in the near future for the major eastern economies: IIRC S Korea, Japan, and China are all among the fastest aging countries. Of course these trends usually even out over time, and they aren’t likely to import as many immigrants as the west does.

  95. Aquilax's Gravatar Aquilax
    January 16, 2013 - 9:35 pm | Permalink

    A bit out of topic but Mr. MacDonald, have you heard about this study :

    New research suggests that racial stereotypes and creativity have more in common than we might think.

    In an article published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science, researcher Carmit Tadmor of Tel Aviv University and colleagues find that racial stereotyping and creative stagnation share a common mechanism: categorical thinking.

    • Dan's Gravatar Dan
      January 17, 2013 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

      Hardcore racists who successfully mask their
      Ethnocentric or Racial attitudes are actually quite creative.

      It’s called euphemism. A large number of conservatives make verbal statements that could be seen as vitriolic racism, but are stated in a form that is deniable. That verbal dance indicates great creativity.

  96. January 16, 2013 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    European morality is so utterly wrong it boggles the mind. Whites are the only people on Earth who believe it’s “moral” to make themselves weaker


    IT sounds like my childhood Sunday school teaching in an American Protestant church. It’s good to be weak, sacrifice yourself like Jesus sacrificed himself, et cetera.

    Just my personal experience.

    I wrote about this at my blog — my conclusion is that some enterprising White nationalist scientist should learn Chinese, go to China, steal this technology, come back and start a back alley eugenics clinic for SWPLs in Brooklyn, NY. You’re going to get the liberals who would always intone “children, Nazis are bad, m’kay?” but are secretly racist, but at the same time, you could provide this technology at lower cost (sliding scale) to pro-White families. And you could get rich as Croessus at the same time.

    One of my commenters who is a PhD in some kind of bio science said all we need is a 500,000 dollar genome sequencing machine. If there’s any millionaires reading this, get in touch, we need some venture capital. if it doesn’t work, you can sell the sequencing machine if it doesn’t work out. We could start a eugenics reproduction clinic in Russia where the laws are a bit looser as long as we grease the palsms of important people, and I’m sure plenty of rich RUssians would be happy to aviail themselves of reproduction technology.

  97. Freki's Gravatar Freki
    January 16, 2013 - 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps I’m wrong, but the impression is that Dr. MacDonald overemphasizes the importance of ethno-states (China is certainly not an ethno-state). The Jewish example shows that eugenics is possible in a poly-ethnic demographic situation.

    Even if I support the eugenic idea, I find it hard to determine the right criteria for eugenic practices. Many bourgeois and aristocratic elites in Europe have been intermarrying for centuries (presumably rich and intelligent people). They brought us, e.g., philosophers and scientists promoting moral universalism.

  98. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    January 16, 2013 - 7:29 pm | Permalink

    China isn’t really an ethnostate–even among the 92% official Han. You’d be hard pressed to find pure Han, even along the Yellow River. The darker Cantonese, for example, though we consider them the quintessential Chinese, were considered “nan man” (Southern barbarians) for most of Chinese history.

    Anyway, one consideration is using “Han”–or more properly Zhong hua– as a model for whites. We are all different ethnicities, but we have a superseding White identity. And like the Chinese, we could maintain our regional ethnic identities.

    One other comment, before we start quaking before our Han-ish masters, the one-childe policy is extremely arbitrarily enforced–one wonders just how effective any eugenics practices there might be.

  99. Michael Fitzgerald's Gravatar Michael Fitzgerald
    January 16, 2013 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

    What eugenic programs take place in Israel?

    Where is the evidence for this?

  100. January 16, 2013 - 6:36 pm | Permalink

    China, which won its war, unlike NS Germany, and unlike the US, has no Jews, shows what a normal nation is like.

    As for Israel, it’s just another instance of one law for the goy, one for the Jew. Guns, immigration control, eugenics, Israel, like Switzerland, is what America would be if the Left-Jews of the ACLU and the Right-Jews of the Neocons weren’t running the show.

  101. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 16, 2013 - 6:26 pm | Permalink

    European morality is so utterly wrong it boggles the mind. Whites are the only people on Earth who believe it’s “moral” to make themselves weaker. Part of this is due to the jewish control of media and academia, which puts the idea of the “danger” of power into our heads; that if we Whites become too powerful, too smart, too aggressive, we’ll start wars that will lead to our destruction (never mind that it’s always jews who start the wars, and Whites who die in them). They actually tell us that we’re better off without power, and Whites believe this because it enhances their natural altruism.

  102. tadzio's Gravatar tadzio
    January 16, 2013 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    How Israel is promoting an high IQ population of Jews escapes me. It is at the bottom of international testing standards of educational achievements when placed among first world countries. In order to get that high it segregates out over one fifth of its students which will soon disqualify it to even be considered. The usual cut out is close to 10%.

    Israel pays low IQ haredi to study the Torah and make babies rabbit style. Haredi woman have the highest birthrate in the first world if you deem Israel a first world nation. The product is not even usable as cannon fodder which is an ongoing political football there.

    It appears that Israel talks the game for the few but does not play it for the many.

  103. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 16, 2013 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Professor McDonald,

    Is it your impression that this eugenicist trend is heightened in present-day China? My own is that China has regarded itself as the omphalos of the world—literally and metaphorically—since the millennium before Christ and has, admittedly without the aid of of modern science, worked hard at keeping its bloodlines uncontaminated by ipso facto inferior foreign taint of any sort for these many centuries.

    Of course, until a century ago, no one would have considered a peasant couple with twenty kids a threat to anything, since two-thirds of them would be dead before they reached their fifth birthday. In that sense, a eugenics program could, I imagine, produce rather different results from those of the garden-variety Chinese mind-set.

  104. Larry2's Gravatar Larry2
    January 16, 2013 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Benjamin Net ‘America is the mausoleum of the Jewish people’
    Post-war California, that most magnetic and seductive of the 50 states, might have been too much of a threat to Jewish racial solidarity. Maybe the California nightmaring of today is the result of a fear of marrying out in a 90/10 white majority sub-urban paradise.

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