The New York State Senate voted against gay marriage: In the debate before the vote, “Eighteen senators [supporting gay marriage] gave impassioned speeches, often about family members who survived the Holocaust and discrimination and would want gays to be equal under law.”
This is a remarkable commentary on the usefulness of the Holocaust to advance the destruction of the traditional culture of the West. (Of course, the other main usefulness of the Holocaust is in defending anything that Israel does.) I have nothing against homosexuals. As I noted previously, “Homosexuals have ethnic interests just like everyone else, and they can promote those interests even if they don’t themselves have children. It seems to me that one way for homosexuals to promote their ethnic interests is to acknowledge heterosexual marriage as a specially protected cultural norm — its special status guaranteed because of its critical importance in creating and nurturing children.”
These Jewish activists are not interested in defending or creating a culture that is adaptive for White Americans. Their attitudes are entirely determined by their Jewish identity. And since the Enlightenment, the main thrust of Jewish intellectual and political activism has been motivated by hostility to the people and culture of the West. The same “logic” often surfaces when Jewish activists defend massive non-White immigration.
As Charles Silberman pointed out, “American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief—one firmly rooted in history—that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming majority of U.S. Jews to endorse ‘gay rights’ and to take a liberal stance on most other so-called ‘social’ issues.”
Indeed, as Earl Raab famously noted,
The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country.
We [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
>>I have nothing against homosexuals. As I noted previously, “Homosexuals have ethnic interests just like everyone else, and they can promote those interests even if they don’t themselves have children. It seems to me that one way for homosexuals to promote their ethnic interests is to acknowledge heterosexual marriage as a specially protected cultural norm — its special status guaranteed because of its critical importance in creating and nurturing children.”
Finally, someone on “the Right” who doesn’t confuse homosexuality with sterility or impotence ["they're threatening our population growth!"], and recognizes that they may also have a stake in White, Western culture.
They understood this in Athens, but since the Right takes its orders from Jerusalem, and the Left promotes a phony ‘gay’ identity to isolate homosexuals from their cultural roots, things have gotten a bit silly.
Finally, an issue that I am fanatical about. I have looked for information of this topic for the last several hours. Your site is greatly treasured.
Seems like we are leaving out the obvious. Most homosexuals don’t want children. Pride in your race is directly tied to ancestry and offspring – gays are not very interested in children (and I doubt many care about their ancestry (unless the ancestors were gay) – therefor, gays will never care much about this movement – it just doesn’t mean much to a childless person. My two cents.
Brahms, do you really deny the ability of a man to do what is right unless it fits some sort of evolutionary formula? If so you have bought into a mode of existence totally at odds with White European tradition. That having been said just because I do not have children does not mean that I am not a brother or an uncle or a cousin. To suggest that a childless gay man has no interest in the future of his race is simply absurd.
Gay men still love their brothers. (Sometimes, I think, they love them a lot.) Personally, I am convinced that a lot of gay men have just been brainwashed. But diversity in biology never does stop delivering ingenuity. I am sure homosexuality really exists in some form or another.
As Charles Silberman pointed out, “American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief—one firmly rooted in history—that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups.
Does this mean Jews are less concerned with promoting ‘tolerance’ and ‘diversity’ in societies they don’t live in? We never hear any real complaints or moral outrage about Japan, or South Korea or China. Those societies are much more homogeneous in terms of ethnicity and culture than any major European nation (or of course, the US). Most African countries are mostly … African. Yet we don’t hear the same moral outrage about them. Could this stem from the fact Jews don’t live in them in significant numbers, and don’t plan to?
If this is true, the safest thing for a county that wishes to preserve itself and its culture is to remain free of Jews, given their intelligence and sophistication in political matters and therefore effectiveness in bringing about their societal objectives.
Whoa Jason. Ur a genius or something. Actually, the objective, more or less, is to convince the Jews we already have to stop hating Christ. I have absolutely no problem with these people:
http://www.jewsforjesus.com
And I don’t care about Jews who are not actively trying to subvert our nation. However, a lot of them are trouble-makers. Some of them are genocidal maniacs.
To (elite institution coward):
We should heavily evangelize the jews. I’m sure they are most afraid of that themselves, even though it would save them from hell. Christian behaviour would remove them from the enemies list, and turn them against their former tribe members insidious goals. Not unlike the northern army of aggression recuiting blacks to fight for them in the War Between the States back in the 1860′s.
I’m pretty sure jews consider conversion to be logistical act of war, tantamount to blowing up supply depots and factories, and would consider it to be a hanging offense to prevent it if they could pull it off, much as the muslims kill converts to Christianity.
In that respect, you lost souls (you know who you are) could consider your Christian brothers on here to be your friend, not fools undermining the cause. It is up to us to slowly realign the goals of Christian missionary work to American cities charities, obviously the white ones.
Now I’m going to go exercise so I may be around long enough, and remain physically able to do my duty by my white brethren in our righteous struggle.
“Homosexuals have ethnic interests just like everyone else, and they can promote those interests even if they don’t themselves have children.”
Can we be sure of that? Homosexuals are not normal, as in normal people want to further their genetic content. I can’t believe that homosexuals want to pass on their homosexuality.
Homosexuals seem to be interested in homosexual sex. This is there interest and they have no history of having an ethnic interest. If they did have an ethnic interest there would be some kind of regular sex practice wherein they scoop up some semen and deposit it into some female.
All they want is a culture where it is safe for homosexuals to be homosexuals. The Jews are for homosexuals mucking up a society just as they are for blacks mucking up a society. If homosexuals and blacks did not cause disorder in a society the Jews wouldn’t give them a dime.
I think MacDonald is using the term “interest” here in different sense than you are. So in a way you are both right!
I think he means interest, not in the sense of “something they are interested in”, like a desire, but in the sense that it is something “in their interest”.
It’s like saying it’s in an kid’s interest to study — that is a true statement, but it is also true that the kid usually isn’t interested in studying. In other words, we don’t always desire what is in our interest. Obviously, there seems to be something a bit off in how homosexuals value things, from a reproductive perspective.
So, all people have ethnic interests, in terms of a genetic interest, whether they are are aware of them or not. That’s what Salter’s book is all about.
Re: Jason Speaks
March 8, 2011: yes.
Genetic interest only applies to race. The only way that a homosexual could aid his genetic interest would be to advance the health and well being of non-homosexual persons of his race.
It is possible that a person can work against his genetic interest. In America a pro-immigration and pro-“Civil Rights” white person is doing something that is detrimental to his race and working against his genetic interest.
Homosexuals are much like Jews and other outsiders that want a disordered host society where than can exist without being harassed. For Jews and other outsider ethnic groups disruptive behavior is a positive value since it creates an environment in host society where they can multiply.
But since the disruptive behavior of the white homosexual creates an environment where other ethnic groups can multiply while his ethnic group is impeded and displaced, he is a negative value for his genetic interest.
So I don’t see the homosexual having an ethnic interest or genetic interest, only an interest in sex pleasure in the here and now. This interest is detrimental to white America’s genetic interest since it is a disordering of society that works in favor of the anti-white groups.
Interest does not even need to be genetic. It can be a desire for self-determination (freedom) or economic wealth. What Kevin is saying is that White gays share our interests because we will ensure them their political freedom as well as not make them into economic slaves. Jews do not promise them these things in the long run.
Homosexuals have no genetic interest.
They are like a race car at the Indy 500. Where a normal car has driver directing it to a purpose in life, the race car is on a round track going nowhere, but enjoying the fun of speed driving.
Their only interest is in sex, speeding on a nice new race track. As such they want roads torn down and more and more race tracks built. They are interested in getting cars off the road on the race track.
Jews also want the roads destroyed so that the populace cannot communicate and build a culture that see Jews as outsiders. This is how both homosexuals and Jews come to have the same goal.
Obviously, I do not mean we would give them a strong-armed political power like they have now. They are only 1-3% of the population. And this is AFTER all the propaganda. But they do benefit as a group for being part of the American nation. For an example of how this is true, look at Ghana. Both homosexual blacks and heterosexual blacks are poor.