Lasha Darkmoon: Sex Plague

Kevin MacDonald: I invite comment on Dr. Lasha Darkmoon’s current TOO article “Sex plague.” It is yet another take on Jews as a hostile elite—the “sheer destructive power” of the Jewish intellect, as Paul Johnson had it. Psychoanalysis attacked the most basic institutions of Western society—its sexual mores. It was the most egregious pseudo-science ever invented. Maintained by cult-like devotion and the political discipline worthy of a communist cell, it opened the door to a host of cultural changes. But it is the motivation of these Jewish intellectuals that is critical: Freud’s “we are bringing them the plague” and his hatred of the Catholic Church are paradigmatic. But Darkmoon also brings in contemporary descendants of this attitude: Al Goldstein’s “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks.” And Richard Pacheco who saw no conflict between his career as a porn star and his career as a rabbinical student. And Annie Sprinkle, who blurs the border between pornography and high art—a feat that is possible only in a culture that is completely degraded.

There can be little doubt that these movements have had a generally negative influence on the culture and on the cultural self-confidence of those espousing traditional values. My view is that the biggest effects of this cultural onslaught have been on people on the lower end of the Bell curve. See here.

As usual, there is no claim that all Jews have these attitudes. And certainly many non-Jews have been involved whether motivated by fame, fortune, or psychosis. (Darkmoon mentions Tracey Emin, Hannah Wilke, and Karen Finley.) And yet, while not necessarily focused on sexual subversion, it is acknowledged on all sides that in general Jews have hostile attitudes toward the people and the culture of the West, particularly Christianity. (See, e.g., here.) Of course, this wouldn’t matter if Jews were a powerless minority like the Gypsies. It matters a great deal when Jews have risen to an elite in all of the areas that matter: politics, the media, personal wealth, and the academic world.

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134 Comments to "Lasha Darkmoon: Sex Plague"

  1. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 14, 2010 - 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Joe: “Those with IQs below 100 (Whites) , if not held firmly to job and family , assuming there are jobs for them, are vulnerable to crude sex. The worst of it is that they start identifying with the animals , blacks, lumpen elements in general, and so on.”

    Anyone can see that a lot of the worst, most corrosive Whites, are some of the best “educated”. Academia is testimony to that. Next worse are the sellout Whites who are primarily concerned with money and their own financial advancement. In fact, because IQ tends to translate both into financial success and a higher level of educational attainment, I suspect there is, if anything, an inverse correlation between these things and ethnocentrism. It makes sense that in a corrupt, anti-racist system such as the current one, the Whites who succeed and are financially rewarded would tend to be above average in IQ, above average in education, and practically devoid of any concern for their race.

  2. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    October 14, 2010 - 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Rabbi Dressner some time ago addressed the Jewish movie business and concluded that the jews running it, all the way back to early 20th C. were basically filthy, etc.

    Freud brought Cabbala, a sex-obsessed Jewish heresy, to the goyim. There is no doubt that Jews run pornography, etc. etc.

    The L’amour fou, (?) crazy love , of the surrealists and other degenerates (George Bataille) motivated various goof-balls like the communist Picasso and Modern Art in general….it was all more or less liberated to return to the animal state by Freud. Not that our degeneracy is all the fault of Freud. Think de Sade, and the libertines of the French Rev.

    If you can think it…do it, seems to be the voice of the devil.

    Western Man has got out of the dirt by severely controlling his sexuality. To liberate it is to return to the dirt.

    That is what Jews want, the dirt, the ugly, the y(id) introduced into White and Christian Civilization. No coincidence that Freud went for African art, and the rest of the animal sex of the blacks, etc. Jews are carnal. But they also are communal, a community of animal sex but with animal herd instinct, and animal love of money/survival. They know who their enemies are. Coarse, but with their brutality and cunning…’successful.’

    Here we are with our young girls dressing like sluts if not whores. Jews, Blacks, and anything-goes Liberals….This is not true in all regions of the U.S. I just returned from Kentucky and Tennessee and saw none of this with White young women. Of course, Kentucky and Tennessee are heavily Christian….these are the people who make the Jews nerevous.

    One observation which only holds Freud and most jews partially responsible for this is;: higher functioning (higher intelligence) is only for the top 20% or so, maybe less. The intermediate group can perform business type work.

    Those with IQs below 100 (Whites) , if not held firmly to job and family , assuming there are jobs for them, are vulnerable to crude sex. The worst of it is that they start identifying with the animals , blacks, lumpen elements in general, and so on.

    ONe of the failures of Whites in LIberal Society/Culture is that our lower-functioning Whites are not loved and protected. Often they are scorned…and naturally go to the Blacks…etc. Another failure of Liberalism.

    Joe

  3. john's Gravatar john
    October 14, 2010 - 6:48 am | Permalink

    Dear lasha

    The ambit and depth of your research is impeccable.

    Many of us have part of the picture but you —like honest jewish/formerly jewish experts like Shamir, Makow, Br. Nathanael, Atzmon et al. provide illuminated 3D panorama.

    Increasing self-awareness of the causes of destruction of western society ineluctibly leads to the conclusions produced by your research rigour and ambit.

    Separately one is impelled by proper instinct and reason to “Cherchez le Juif” and “Les Illuminations” sic.

    How time-wasting the panoply of navel-gazers making sour/deprecatory comments who argue like medieval theologians about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    John

    London

  4. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 14, 2010 - 2:33 am | Permalink

    From my VIP correspondent in Australia…I copy and paste his comment>

    Lasha,

    The emperor has no clothes.

    The last time I truly broke out in peals of uncontainable laughter was when I was watching a pretentious music documentary by one of these idiots and a gay guy grabbed the microphone and started expressing the weak-willed nonsense in his soul. I laughed so hard I dislodged a contact lens and my date at the time clawed at me desperately to shut up. All the while, the audience continued to watch this boring drivel. As if it were genius. I later decided my date was moral garbage and dumped her.

    Not surprisingly, it is the people who listen to these liars and propagandists who are the most hurt by their policies. The revelations from the NYC public school system being an excellent case in point.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/nyregion/16gap.html?_r=1

    The truth about the current appalling state of the arts and popular culture hits one in the face constantly, so it is pleasing to see someone finally call it for the grotesque spectacle it is and publicly acknowledge the reasons for the decline.

    It is difficult to overstate the importance of the pieces you write in terms of restoring integrity to the arts. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and quite often power structures like these evaporate once they are exposed. In some cases, all it takes is the moral courage of a small minority to call a spade a spade. The results are often transformative.

    Keep up the good work.

    All the best,

    B——
    (Name withheld)

  5. GoyAmongYou's Gravatar GoyAmongYou
    October 13, 2010 - 4:07 am | Permalink

    Xanadu says:
    October 7, 2010 at 5:07 PM

    “Actually, Hannah Wilke was Jewish. The other two, especially Tracey Emin, were shabbat goys.”

    I’d rather call them de-goys

    That’s a MacDonaldian neologism I came up with:

    Decoy + Goyim

    Very Jewcy comments in this Blog entry, keep ‘em coming =)

  6. Eman's Gravatar Eman
    October 12, 2010 - 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Jewish dominated USA has become a social, cultural, economic, political, and racial desert – and the water crisis of The United Deserts of America is in full swing.

    Just note that Jews and other large-nosed desert races cannot handle humidity…if you get my drift.

  7. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 12, 2010 - 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Actually, Jim, I doubt that the incidence of sexual abuse is any lower for rabbis than it is for Catholic priests.

    Given that the Talmud expressly licenses such abuse, its incidence may be much higher among Jewish clergy. Remember, it’s the Jewish media that reports the news. If experience is any guide, they’ve been reporting every single known case of sexual abuse by Christian clergy while ignoring Jewish ones no matter how extreme.

    As for rabbinical organ theft and organ-sharking, it’s a miracle that we learned about it at all.

  8. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 12, 2010 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    “…any Jew holding that their [Catholics] occasional pedophilia constitutes an argument against Christianity merely needs to stretch his or her colon around a copy of the Talmud to understand the true source of religious pedophilia.”

    You’re right. I would NEVER try to trivialize the crimes of priests against parishioners, but their rate of sexual abuse is at or below the average for the general population. I wonder how the rate of body-snatching and organ selling among rabbis compares to the general population?

    http://joeland7.blogspot.com/2009/08/jewish-rabbis-arrested-for-corruption.html

  9. Lucy Skipping's Gravatar Lucy Skipping
    October 12, 2010 - 12:30 pm | Permalink

    @ gerder

    What you say about the movie based on the Leo Frank case is yet another example of the intellectual dishonesty and cowardice of non-Jewish journalists who work as wage slaves for the Jew-owned mass media.

    Dr Darkmoon has been courageous enough to write ground-breaking articles on art in which she demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that the entire art market was controlled by the Jews, but she could only say this on the internet. Her articles would never have been accepted by the New York Times or the New Yorker. This was because she had named and shamed the Jew.

    Darkmoon has revealed elsewhere that exactly the same information on art—the art scam—was made available years earlier to the public in best-selling books which received rave reviews by the New York Times and the New Yorker. What books? Tom Wolfe’s The Painted Word and Sophie Bunham’s The Art Crowd.

    And do you know why those books were allowed reveal all that scandalous information on art? Because the authors of those books were forced to leave out the ONE most important fact: the fact that JEWS WERE BEHIND THE SCAM.

    Everything was laid bare, but the J-word was not mentioned ONCE.

    Today a situation prevails, as you know, when no one is allowed to mention that the mass media or Hollywood are completely under Jewish control. I lie. Jews are allowed to boast about it. But the goyim who whisper this truth to the world are instantly dismissed from their jobs.

    “Anti-semitism” and “telling-the-truth-about-Jews” have now become synonymous.

    This article by Lasha Darkmoon, the first she wrote for the internet, explains it all in detail:

    “DON’T MENTION THE JEW”, by Lasha Darkmoon.
    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9270

  10. Gerder's Gravatar Gerder
    October 12, 2010 - 10:57 am | Permalink

    Are you all aware of the 1937 Warner Brothers movie They Won’t Forget? It’s clearly based on the Leo Frank case, but Mary Phagan’s character is an approximately 17-year-old flirtatious girl in a business school in a Southern town, and the Jewish character is only a “Northerner”. I notice too that in all the reviews of the movie on the website ttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029658/usercomments?start=20 the word Jew is not used once, though “anti-semitism” and “Judaism” occur once or twice. Apparently viewers are unaware or don’t want to discuss the fact that the accused is a Jew.

  11. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 12, 2010 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    @ caleb

    I thought that all of the claims of Rev. Ted Pike as listed in

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

    were destined to be soundly rebutted by you on your authority as a Talmud scholar.

    So where are the rebuttals? ;-)

    Everyone here knows I have my disagreements with the Holy Fathers of the Catholic Church. But any Jew holding that their occasional pedophilia constitutes an argument against Christianity merely needs to stretch his or her colon around a copy of the Talmud to understand the true source of religious pedophilia.

  12. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 5:45 pm | Permalink

    P.S. to the above letter:

    It’s possible I’ve misconstrued your position. In which case, heartfelt apologies. You have certainly misconstrued my position. Incidentally, my articles on sex have been translated into other languages and the comments I have received from others have without exception been full of extravagant praise. Not ONE negative letter — except for yours. I have repeatedly been told by my appreciative readers that I have put into moving and lucid language the thoughts and feelings they have had themselves. Whose opinions do you think I value most: the positive opinions of 99.0% of my public or the pettifogging objections and academic nitpickings of a lone wolf ectomorph?

    PPS. I bet you wouldn’t have the courage to publish this letter on your website. If you were to do so, I would possibly revise my opinion of you as an ivory tower ectomorph who sees life through the smudgy-lensed spectacles of books! Once again, dear Peter, get a life! Live and let live! Allow diversity of opinions! More tolerance toward the opinions of others and less intellectual fascism!!!

    Lasha Darkmoon
    (with a mind of her own).

    See here
    http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/shamireaders/message/1919

  13. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Lasha Darkmoon’s rejoinder to Peter Myers

    Dear Peter,

    Thank you for these learned cogitations. You certainly know a lot more about Freud than I do and have done meticulous research. But do lighten up, old chap. The nitpicking and pettifogging objections you raise to my use of the title “Sex Plague” are simply not acceptable to me. I reject them totally—and no offense intended! For example, you say:

    “In that quote, Freud appears to be calling Psychoanalysis a plague. He’s not calling Sex a plague.”

    How obtuse can you get, Peter? Am I calling sex a plague? No, I am not! I do not think sex per se is a plague. There is nothing wrong with healthy sex. Am I suggesting that Freud himself called sex a plague? No, I am not! Freud thought people would benefit from more sex, not less. So I am not suggesting that Freud had a negative attitude to sex in which he was more or less saying, “Sex is a damn plague!”

    What I am suggesting is two things, neither of which you will probably agree with:

    (1) That Psychoanalysis is the “plague” that Freud was referring to because it was an ideology that helped to undermine Christian mores (as MacDonald has pointed out repeatedly). It was this “plague” that led to the Frankfurt School, to Marcuse and Reich, and that helped to bring on the sexual revolution of the Swinging Sixties — and today we have the legacy of all that: rampant sexual permissiveness and almost universal licentiousness that is NOT improving the quality of life for its countless victims. I do not approve of a world in which everyone is a mini Marquis de Sade. Sorry.

    (2) It is precisely this collapse in sexual morality, this rampant licentiousness that I am referring to when I use the phrase “sex plague”. This is EXACTLY what we have on our hands: a sexual infection, a mind disease rooted in sex, ie., a SEX PLAGUE. So there is nothing wrong with my title whatsoever. I couldn’t have found an apter title.

    If you cannot concede a point when you are in the wrong, Peter, you are frankly not worth arguing with. The mark of a good scholar and a man of true intellect is to be ruled by logic. You are not. You stick to your guns as a matter of pride, more concerned with foisting your erroneous opinions on others than in giving ground gracefully when you are wrong.

    A seminarian? Well, they certainly didn’t teach you any humility there! Less ego, dear Peter, would make you a more credible pundit. I never did see eye to eye with earnest ectomorphs…and you appear to be one of them. Listen, the world is full of variety! We don’t all have to be intellectual replicas of Peter Myers—we don’t have to be PM clones!

    Get a life, Peter, and allow others to espouse their views without bombarding them with constant nitpicking letters telling them to shape up and join the Peter Myers Admiration Society!

    Kind regards from a wellwisher,

    Lasha D

  14. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 5:38 pm | Permalink

    @ Lucy

    “I have only two words to say to you — and the second one is OFF.”

    You really have class! Awesome!

  15. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 5:36 pm | Permalink

    As Peter has been kind enough to post my rejoinder to his letter on the Israel Shamir site, I will post my rejoinder here too. The reader might as well read what I have to say. I apologize in advance for my somewhat robust language. Coolness is a virtue I mean to cultivate in future.

  16. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 5:32 pm | Permalink

    @ Montecristo

    “The fact that you have a strong view on Adorno’s influence that differs from the view held by Lasha Darkmoon (and Elizabeth Whitcombe) does not give you the right to call Darkmoon a “phoney”.”

    As I have explained several times I don’t call her a phoney because of her asine view of Adorno as “destroyer” of Western music (by writing some pamphlets in favour of Schönberg I guess, haha) but because of her revealing letter to Shamir.

    “You many not be a Jew, but you are a repulsive specimen nevertheless. The stereotypical humorless Teuton.”

    Who is now strereotypical? You are the steotypical American who gains his knowlegde about foreign countries through Hollywood-movies. What is next. Praising the “Greatest Genaration” for helping to destroy Germany?Where is your sense of humour btw. Does show itself through hysterical claims that someone who criticizes your pet-(pseudo)-intellectual is a jew?

    “The day you can write an article yourself that shows even one-tenth of the talent displayed by Darkmoon, I will pin a medal on your chest myself.”

    You and Lycy have some kind of medal-fetishism. And Darkmoon isn’t talented at all! She mocks you with her writings in a clumsy way and you are too stupid to see it.

  17. Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)
    October 11, 2010 - 5:30 pm | Permalink

    From Peter Myers to Lasha Darkmoon

    Lasha,

    There is a plague of rampant licentiousness, as you say, but the phrase “sex plague” needs a qualifier, as one can see by analogy with food. One might speak of a plague of “junk food”, but one would not call it a “food plague”, as if food per se is unpleasant. Instead, one would call it a “junk food plague”. By analogy, one might refer to a plague of soulless sex; or a profanity of sex.

    The term “sex plague”, without a qualifier, implies a Manichean distaste for sex. The Christian fundamentalists want to return to the old repressive days. You yourself may not have such a view, but readers in wider society – outside the Far Right – may get that impression.

    I myself would like to put your article out to my email bulletin, which reaches academics and influential people outside the Far Right; but without the (relatively small) modifications I have suggested, it would be vulnerable to being “shot down” by critics, not least on account of its misquoting Freud.
    You have not modified your Sex Plague article, even though the Freud quote, as you have it, is actually a conjunction of two quotes, separated by “…”.

    This is not really accurate, yet you use the “Dr” prefix to imply academic standards. You can’t have it both ways.

    The context of Freud’s “plague” comment – that is was made to Jung, who used to quote it to his students – is not at all unimportant. It is you who are making much of this quote, so it is not “nitpicking” to check out its etiology as I have done.

    But Jung was no conspirator against Western values. And if Freud said it in a conspiratorial tone, he would be betraying his secret to an enemy.
    Therefore it would appear that Freud was joking. That is, only half serious, but with perhaps a sting that is noticeable in hindsight.

    Not all of Psychoanalysis has been harmful. Dr John Bowlby, inventor of the term “Bonding”, developed his Attachment theory partly out of his Psychoanalytic background. Attachment theory relates Bonding to our instinctive side – to Ethology.

    This was a key theme of my B.A. Hons thesis in Anthrolopology; it dealt with the conduct of Childbirth. When sheep and goats give birth, human interference (eg touching the baby) can interfere with Bonding, leading the mother to reject it. I myself have had to bottle-feed a lamb on this account.
    The modern conduct of human birth is wrongly done, from this biological viewpoint. The result is 30% Cesareans, and an epidemic of Postpartum depression. After I became aware of the pitfalls, three of my own children were home births.

    Sex culture existed before Judaism was invented. The Gilgamesh Epic is full of sex; it was the leading epic story of Sumeria, the first civilization, and well-known wherever Babylonian culture spread, eg in the Canaanite/Phoenician and early Greek worlds of the Meditterranean.

    http://mailstar.net/adam-and-eve.html

    The Song of Solomon, ie Song of Songs, is a book in the Jewish Bible which inherits much of that Sumerian/Babylonian sex-culture. It’s the only book of the Jewish Bible which does not mention God. Yet it’s in all the Canons.
    The Harappan Civilization featured the same sex-culture; there was civilizational continuity all the way from the Fertile Crescent to north-west India.

    The Dionysiac culture of Greece preserved that sex culture in the Western world; and it still erupts periodically.

    Futher, the Osirian rite of Egypt had a sex theme; Oriris was the counterpart of Siva (of India) and Dionysius (of Greece). See Siva and Dionysius, by Alain Danielou (brother of Cardinal Jean Danielou).

    http://mailstar.net/india-pakistan.html

    However, none of those sex-cultures were trashy or brash like Jewish “Modern Art” and the Jewish Pornographers you feature in your Art and Sex webpages. They are really ANTI-civilizational, nihilistic.

    It’s important to make the distinction.

    We DO need to get rid of Pornography and re-introduce Censorship. But the changes must not banish sex per se, as many Christian Fundamentalists would have; it’s vital to settle on a middle position, rather than return to the cloister or cast sex as the domain of the Devil.

    That’s why it’s important to make some (relatively minor) corrections to your Art and Sex webpages.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-Sex-Plague.html

    I am aware of at least one article on MacDonald’s website which has been modified since being placed there. Specifically, Eric Knutsson modified his articles on Jews, Vienna & Postmodernism. So, you could do this if you wish; if you do, can I suggest that you give the date of the update.

    You challenged me to put your letter on my website. What I will do is put it out to my mailing list, with this rejoinder.

    Can I suggest that you also put this letter of mine in your forum?

    Israel Shamir put your material out to his email list; hopefully he will put this letter out too.

    Peter

  18. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Peter Myers has requested me to post this comment of his on this forum. It is an attack on my article “Sex Plague”. Peter thinks the title is misleading because it would appear to suggest that sex is itself a plague. And this is wrong because, as we all know, there is nothing wrong with sex per se.

    Peter therefore suggests that the title should be changed to “Junk Sex” or something similar. In his opinion, this would be less controversial. And people wouldn’t be so offended.

    Maybe he has a point.

    I will post his comment in my next post. Please read it carefully and consider that many of the points he makes are valid ones. I am the first to admit this.

  19. Xanadu (Lasha)'s Gravatar Xanadu (Lasha)
    October 11, 2010 - 5:09 pm | Permalink

    I deplore all these personal attacks on German. I request Montecristo and Lucy Skipping to stop. German must be free to continue his criticisms of me if he wishes. This is what life is all about. It is about tolerance.

    German, please continue to exercise your right of free speech. I have no objections to being called a “phoney”. Good heavens, this is almost a compliment!

    In a sense, we are all phoneys, aren’t we? We wear masks and pretend to be what we are not. We are actors on a stage — and the stage is called Life.

    A little abuse never did one any harm. it helps one to attain humility.

  20. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 4:14 pm | Permalink

    German says: October 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM

    The fact that you have a strong view on Adorno’s influence that differs from the view held by Lasha Darkmoon (and Elizabeth Whitcombe) does not give you the right to call Darkmoon a “phoney”.

    Lucy Skipping has offered to give you a medal if you can produce a single statement made by Darkmoon that proves she is a “phoney”. You are unable to do so.

    This make you a phoney.

    You many not be a Jew, but you are a repulsive specimen nevertheless. The stereotypical humorless Teuton.

    The day you can write an article yourself that shows even one-tenth of the talent displayed by Darkmoon, I will pin a medal on your chest myself.

    Meanwhile, why don’t you creep back under the rock from which you emerged?

  21. Lucy Skipping's Gravatar Lucy Skipping
    October 11, 2010 - 4:01 pm | Permalink

    @ German

    I have only two words to say to you — and the second one is OFF.

  22. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 3:48 pm | Permalink

    @ Montercristo

    I forgot to add that you didn’t merit that answer since your hystercic claims that I am Jew are really too low to merit a response.

  23. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    @ Montecristo

    I don’t want to sidetrack the discussion to musical matters, but since you have asked why I called L.D. a pseudo-intellectual. It is plain stupid to make the odious jew Adorno (who was quite knowledgable about music nevertheless) responsible for the decline of Western music. The Western music was in a deep crisis at the end of the 19th century. The old Johannes Brahms was despairing because he couldn’t detect a worthy sucessor of the great German tradition of music. As Spengler observerd the muscial forms had exhausted themselves and all frantic endeavours to reinvigorate this tradition were in vain. The last great composer in my view was Richard Strauss and even he said of himself that he was a first-rate second-rate-composer. Strauss was born 1864. To think that a man who was born 1903 was responsible for the decline of Western music ist outright stupid.

  24. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    @ Lucy

    “If you can prove Lasha is a “phoney”, I’ll give you a medal.”

    I have repeated my point of view several times. L.D. is dishonest. I can’t square her TOO-personality with the person who has written the letter to Shamir. That’s enough for me to call her a phoney. I don’t want a medal from you since you compete with Montecristo for the titel “most stupid and odious writer in the TOO-blog”.

    Honestly,

    your man from “Hitler land”

  25. Lucy Skipping's Gravatar Lucy Skipping
    October 11, 2010 - 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Montecristo says:
    October 11, 2010 at 8:22 AM

    “Tell me, German, what do the Jews pay you for posting your comments on this site?

    Would you like to put a muzzle on Lasha Darkmoon? To suppress her rights to free speech? To stop her in her tracks?

    I bet you would!

    Slimy little bastard.

    * * * * *

    Wow, I couldn’t have put it better myself. Only thing is, “slimy little bastard” sounds a bit weak. This a Jew from Hitler Land. A Zionist troll if ever there was one. There is nothing whatsoever in any of Lasha’s articles that would justify German’s verdict of her a “phoney.”

    German, listen up good.

    Go away and find ONE STATEMENT Lasha has made in any of her articles that you think is a “phoney” statement. And then copy and paste it here. Go on, that’s a challenge.

    If you can prove Lasha is a “phoney”, I’ll give you a medal.

  26. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

    @ German

    Addressing Lasha Darkmoon sneeringly:

    “You have no deep musical knowledge…but write about musical knowledge in a dogmatic tone.”

    I repeat: Lasha Darkmoon has referred to music only ONCE in all the time she has been writing for the internet under the name “Lasha Darkmoon.”

    I have read her articles at least TEN TIMES and I can assure you she has NEVER MENTIONED THE WORD MUSIC EXCEPT ONCE!

    Here is the passage from The Plot Against Art:

    “Just as one of these Frankfurters, Theodor Adorno, set out to destroy Western music, assuring the world that atonal music was a good thing because it was discordant and ugly, others in the group set out to destroy art and push it to its reductio ad absurdum.”

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-ArtI.html

    There is no other reference to music in Darkmoon’s work.

    This negative reference to Adorno — which you (“German”) clearly do not like — is linked to an article by music critic Elizabeth Whitcombe, a frequent and much-respected contributor to this site.

    See: Adorno as Critic: Celebrating the Socially Destructive Force of Music, by Elizabeth Whitcombe.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Whitcombe-AdornoI.html

    Since this is THE ONE AND ONLY REFERENCE Darkmoon has ever made to music, it would appear that her negative view of ADORNO as a music critic — and his malignant influence on Western culture as a Frankfurt School revolutionary — is one of the things that makes you angry.

    You hate Darkmoon because she is anti-Adorno.

    So what does that make you?

    It makes you pro-Adorno. Pro-Frankfurt School.

    In other words, it makes you precisely the type of person most people on this site would regard with abhorrence. We don’t sing the praises of the Frankfurt School here. We don’t grovel at the feet of Adorno. Adorno sucks, get it?

    Adorno was a hater of traditional Western culture. He was a supporter of discordant atonal music.

    He is one of the forces that is trying to destroy music.

    This why I called you a “Jew”. And I was right. For only a Jew would sneak on to this site and attack Lasha Darkmoon with lies and ad hominem attacks. And only a supporter of the Frankfurt School and Adorno would object to Lasha’s anti-Adorno comment.

    You are obviously a Zionist troll, paid to slither on to anti-Zionist sites like a venomous serpent and spurt your poison.

    I expect you will now creep off into some crevice like a cockroach, only to sneak back here a few weeks later under another name.

  27. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

    German says: October 11, 2010 at 6:30 AM

    “Honestly, I never trusted you, you come across as some smug pseudo-intellectual. You have no deep musical knowledge for example, but write about the musical development in a dogmatic tone…I don’t buy your “schtick” one bit!”

    Okay, take that dogmatic and derogatory statement:

    “You have no deep musical knowledge…but write about musical knowledge in a dogmatic tone.”

    Let’s analyse this statement in detail.

    (1) We are to assume that YOU (“German”) have a deep musical knowledge, for how else could you pronounce judgement on Lasha Darkmoon’s poor grasp of music unless your own musical abilities were of a superior order?

    (2) We know nothing about you or your musical abilities. All we can know for sure is that you think you know more about music than Lasha Darkmoon. And yet you provide no evidence whatsoever to prove that you know anything about music.

    Go on, German, I challenge you to prove that your knowledge of music is superior to Lasha Darkmoon’s knowledge of music.

  28. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

    @ Jim

    Thank you for your balanced viewpoint. I can go along with much of what you say. You state I do wrong to paint “German” as a Jew because that would appear to be abusive terminology. Again, I agree with you. But doesn’t German call Lasha a “phoney”?

    Isn’t this abusive, given that the only evidence “German” can advance to support this abuse is “gut instinct”?

    Consider this: he attacked Lasha earlier on for her superficial knowledge of music. We are expected to believe that Lasha is a musical ignoramus simply because he says so. No evidence is advanced in support of his derogatory statements.

    It is more than a derogatory statement, Jim. It is a downright lie.

    Why is it a lie?

    I’ll tell you why: because Lasha has NEVER discussed music on this site or any other.

    I know this, and can vouch for it, because I have studied her work well.

    She made a passing reference to music ONCE. It was all of TWO LINES.

    If anything, it showed that Lasha Darkmoon knows a damned sight more about music than our vicious German Rottweiler.

    Who is probably a Zionist troll.

  29. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

    @ Jim

    “three months (if that, in fact, is correct) isn’t all that long ago”

    She herself stated that the letter had been online for three month now, so I assume it has been written three month ago. And when that was her honest statement at that time as she has claimed now all those articles written by her before that letter couldn’t been honest. And since her writing style hasn’t changed at all in the last months her articles now may now be dishonest as well. So she should stop writing. No big loss since she doesn’t reveal something new and her smugness is quite bothersome (at least to me).

    As I have said before, while reading her stuff my gut instinct always said me she is a phoney. But I couldn’t put my fingers on it, because most things she has written corresponded with my world view. So the letter to Shamir was quite a revelation and I wanted to share it here.

  30. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 11, 2010 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    Montecristo,
    I don’t know who is or isn’t jewish on this blog, but I do know that German was only bringing up what Lasha herself had written on another blog, and was understandably startled by what he had read. Parts of her email bore little resemblence to much of what she’s written here (at least the articles I’ve read.)

    I believe German is also right to question the chronology of her change in thinking…three months (if that, in fact, is correct) isn’t all that long ago. I don’t necessarily agree with his overall assessment of her, but I’m not sure that accusing him of being a jew is any better.

    The part of her email that stung the most, I think, was refering to white advocates as “these people” (rather than “us”, which was my previous impression of her viewpoint), and portraying us, in a phrase or two, as people who deserved to be pitied rather than scorned. As I’ve said earlier, the content of her email wasn’t entirely, or even mostly, contrary to the articles I’ve seen on TOO, just very different in tone.

    Also, as I’ve said earlier, I understand all too well the dual world academics have to live in (I’m married to one), and I think it’s easy to criticize people who aren’t at the same place in their journey that we are (or where we think they should be.) Probably most of us accepted some elements of the diversity B.S. at some point in our lives.

    Still, disclosure of previous perspectives/political viewpoints would be nice.

  31. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 10:25 am | Permalink

    German says: October 11, 2010 at 9:48 AM

    (Referring to Lasha Darkmoon)

    “I attack her, because she is dishonest.”

    German,

    I feel sorry for you. You think “dishonesty” means changing one’s mind. You think lack of contradiction — or consistency in one’s opinions — is a sign of intellectual “honesty”.

    You are mistaken. It’s possible to love something today and hate it tomorrow. This isn’t dishonesty. It’s called a change of heart.

    Lasha has herself ADMITTED that she started off being pro-multiculturalism — in an attempt to ward off the accusation of “racism”. She then charts her gradual conversion to anti-multiculturalism as a result of the influence of Kevin MacDonald and others on her mind.

    You think conversion from one viewpoint to its opposite is “dishonest”?

    In that case, why don’t you condemn St Paul for his “dishonesty”? Wasn’t St Paul a hater and persecutor of Christians? And didn’t he do a U-turn on this and become the very opposite: a lover of Christians?

    I am afraid logic is not your strong point, my little German Jew. Your mind is misted up with hatred for our Lasha bcause she is a credit to us and speaks out with a rare eloquence on important matters.

    I have read her essays more than once and I can see no fault in them except a certain youthful exuberance — if exuberance can be regarded as a fault.

  32. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 9:48 am | Permalink

    @ Montecristo

    “I suspect this is why you are attacking her, German. Because you are a German Jew. Am I right?”

    No you are wrong. Im a German and not a jew (not a trace of Jewish ancestry as far as I know). I attack her, because she is dishonest. When I stated that she came across as a “über-racist”, I meant that she left no doubt that she was an advocate of the White race against the evil doings of the jews. Even Kevin MacDonald has found her tone a bit too radical as she has cited him in this thread. But in the letter to Shamir she embraced multi-culturalism and in her “defense” to my accusations she claimed she did that because that was her honest opinion at that time.

    The rest of ranting is so low that I don’t care to answer. You are stupid and aggressive.

  33. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 11, 2010 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    Oh, yeah – that was the end of the page. Just to keep things on track:

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

    What fine upstanding citizens are religious Jews!

  34. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 11, 2010 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    “The rabbi was a “respected” member of the community, and the only customer who habitually complained about the paper not being exactly where he wanted it on the porch.”

    Now, there’s a coincidence.

    I too had a paper route when I was a kid. The town Jew was on my route. He complained to my superiors that he wanted the paper deposited inside the screen door.

    The first time I attempted to comply, a large vicious dog latched onto my hand with its teeth and wouldn’t let go until I kicked it half to death. The wound required medical treatment.

    When my mother called the little Jew up to ask if he’d like to contribute toward the bill, he not only blamed the whole thing on me; he told her that if she pressed the issue, he would have me prosecuted for breaking and entering and animal abuse!

    Obviously, every American small town needs at least one token Jew. Just ask the citizens of Postville, Iowa!

  35. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 11, 2010 - 8:28 am | Permalink

    “Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as “halakah,” or binding Jewish law. Has ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews?”

    Wow, that brings back a vivid memory. When I was a kid, I’d sometimes help my older brother with his paper route. One day, I went up to collect money due from a customer (a middle-aged rabbi) while my brother looked on from the sidewalk. A pleasant young girl of about 14 or 15 came to the door. She might’ve been 16, but no older. “Hi,” I said. “is your dad home?”

    She looked confused, then went and got someone else who paid me. As we walked down the sidewalk, my brother told me that the girl was his wife, not his daughter. The good rabbi was 50-ish I’d say. I felt bad about that for a long time. This has back in the late 60’s, well before there was much protection against the sexual abuse of children.

    The rabbi was a “respected” member of the community, and the only customer who habitually complained about the paper not being exactly where he wanted it on the porch.

  36. Montecristo's Gravatar Montecristo
    October 11, 2010 - 8:22 am | Permalink

    German says: October 11, 2010 at 6:30 AM

    [attacking Lasha Darkmoon]

    “It was three months ago, when you honestly believed in multi-culturalism, as you said. But you write here for a much longer time than three months. And here you come through like some kind of über-racist! So when were you honest?”

    German,

    Can you produce any evidence that Lasha Darkmoon “comes through like some über racist”?

    No, you cannot. Because the opposite is in fact true.

    In her comical efforts not to be branded a “racist”, our dear Lasha has jumped through hoops to avoid even the use of the W-word!

    In her blog article Multiculturalism — An Open Letter to Israel Shamir
    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=799

    Lasha writes:

    “The main bone of contention between you [Israel Shamir] and Kevin MacDonald is obviously multiculturalism. This is a subject I’ve alluded to only briefly and tangentially in my articles, while dealing mostly with other topics.”

    Far from “coming across as an über-racist”, Lasha was in fact doing her best to sound politically correct. She makes it clear that multiculturalism was “a subject I’ve alluded to only briefly and tangentially.” And that’s true. Race issues hardly featured in Lasha Darkmoon’s earlier essays. She was far more concerned with Jews and their evil influence.

    I suspect this is why you are attacking her, German. Because you are a German Jew. Am I right?

    I repeat: you state mischievously and with evil intent — and without the SLIGHTEST evidence — that Lasha comes across as an “über-racist”. Really? Here she is, wringing her hands comically about the use of the word “White”. She actually thought it was wrong to use this word at one time — because it smacked of racism.

    “To portray these beleaguered White Americans as ‘White Supremacists’ or ‘racists’”, she writes, “is a low and dirty trick. As disgraceful as calling critics of racist, apartheid Israel with its black record of war crimes — men like Judge Goldstone — “anti-Semites”.

    She is actually DEFENDING Whites, not attacking them. So what the hell are you complaining about?

    “I do believe with total sincerity, however”, she goes on, “that the use of the word “White” is a tragic mistake — from a public relations viewpoint, if no other — and that this word should be avoided if possible. This word ‘WHITE’ is the bugbear.”

    In the Comments column of that blog, Ms Darkmoon received strong support from at least half a dozen posters, including myself, who were uncomfortable with the use of the word “White” because of its regrettable associations with White Supremacism, neo-Nazi skinheads, and the Ku Klux Klan.

    Many suggestions were made for “nicer” alternatives. The best suggestions were “Euro-Americans” and “Americans of European ancestry. Darkmoon herself suggested “blancos”.

    Is that your definition of “über racism”?

    Tell me, German, what do the Jews pay you for posting your comments on this site?

    Would you like to put a muzzle on Lasha Darkmoon? To suppress her rights to free speech? To stop her in her tracks?

    I bet you would!

    Slimy little bastard.

  37. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 11, 2010 - 6:58 am | Permalink

    (By the way, there’s a lot more on

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

    about this issue, including actual page scans from the Talmud.)

  38. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 11, 2010 - 6:45 am | Permalink

    caleb: “there is absolutely no pedophilia condoned in the talmud. bring me a source, which i assume will be an english trans{and all translations are commentaries} and i will refute and prove wrong anything you can cite.”

    Well, here’s what the Rev. Ted Pike has to say about this general issue:

    “When Christ accused the Pharisees of His day of being Satan’s spiritual children, He fully realized what they were capable of. Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed, “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.”

    Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as “halakah,” or binding Jewish law. Has ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory.

    References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin.”

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

    To this general accusation, one outraged Jew responds:

    “Nowhere is the Talmud permitting such behavior. Sex outside of a marriage is strictly forbidden (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Ishut 1:4, Hilchot Na’arah Betulah 2:17; Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 26:1, 177:5) as is this obvious case of child abuse. The Talmud is only discussing ex post facto what would happen if such a case arose.”

    Unfortunately, this sounds a bit like Abe Madoff saying “I was only experimenting ex post facto with what would happen if some crooked Jew were to defraud investors of over $50 billion!”

    As Rev. Pike’s opinion is extremely widespread, you might consider explaining – in a cogent, remotely credible way, as opposed to absurd rebuttals based on “ex post facto discussions” – how he is mistaken.

  39. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 6:36 am | Permalink

    @ caleb

    “There is absolutely no pedophilia condoned in the Talmud. Bring me a source…and I will refute and prove wrong anything you can cite.”

    Note. Caleb is a Jewish (pro-Talmudic) correspondent who wrote to me privately. I asked him to re-post his comments here in the hope that some well-informed reader would put him right. I don’t have the time or energy to do this myself right now, being enervated by a touch of the flu and a light temperature.

    “As far as who owns what, that would require extensive resources — let someone do a PHD on that.”

    Note. I had made the point to Caleb that organized Jewry owns the mass media, including and especially Hollywood. He rejects this idea. He thinks it would “require extensive resources” to prove this, including a doctoral thesis.

  40. Dan's Gravatar Dan
    October 11, 2010 - 6:30 am | Permalink

    Like Dr. MacDonald, ‘Lasha’ has earned her doctorate, and is entitled to include its signifier (even, in the British tradition, without the period) whenever and wherever she pleases– without first having to obtain the approval of one Peter Myers. The latter’s attempt to arrogate to himself the role of editor of her work on someone else’s Web site certainly falls within the definition of “chutzpah.” As someone also trained in English (B.A.), inter alia, I find Mr. Myers’ fear that any reader seeing the title “Sex Plague” would thereby conclude that ‘Lasha’ is instructing us that all sex is contagiously malignant– let alone that her earned title implies that she is writing about a literal plague as a medical or psychiatric expert!– is utterly ridiculous. (Without knowing whether Mr. Myers’ B.A. was in Physical Anthropology or Cultural Anthropology, I will simply have to withhold my judgment as to whether his Honors Thesis was merely dubious or, instead, wholly bogus….)

    As for those of you who wish to drive ‘Dr Darkmoon’ off of Dr. MacDonald’s associated Web sites because of her supposed apostasy, unless you all have some credible evidence that ‘Lasha’ is acting as a “mole” for Mossad, or some other nefarious organization that is inimical to Dr. MacDonald’s purpose(s) in establishing and running these Web sites, then you ought to take her writings on their face and on their respective merits, rather than acting like the Spanish Inquisition. If these Web sites are intended only for those who wish literally to exterminate the Jews, then Dr. MacDonald should place a prominent notice to that effect, so that those of us who are not neo-Nazis or the like will know that our desire to return our nation to a Constitutional basis, and our civilization to a semblance of its historical arc, are considered to be mere crypto-Marxists and, thus, personae non gratae here. My ancestors did not settle this country in the 1630s so that some Johnny-come-lately from the Balkans could come here and lecture their descendant about the joy and imperative of reviving fascism.

  41. German's Gravatar German
    October 11, 2010 - 6:30 am | Permalink

    @ L.D.

    So, it was three months ago, when you honestly believed in multi-culturalism, as you said. But you write here for a much longer time than three months. And here you come through like some kind of über-racist! So when were you honest? While writing your articles here or when writing to Shamir that the “White issue” was always alien to you and you only pretendeted to be willing to fight for White survivial? And now you seem to say that you have undergone a conversion during the last months. I can’t detect something like that from reading your articles. The same sensational sense-titillating tabloid stuff as always.

    Honestly, I never trusted you, you come across as some smug pseudo-intellectual (you have no deep musical knowledge for example, but write about the musical development in a dogmatic tone) who only plays a role! I don’t buy your “schtick” one bit!

  42. October 11, 2010 - 5:54 am | Permalink

    i sent that first e-mail directly to the Docotr and SHE suggested i post it here for all to see. Ive had a few thoughts since then and would care to expound on it.

    Everyone is saying organized Jewry is running the world. Well, enough is enough. I want in on it, see. I’ll do whatever you illumanati types want. I’m tired of being poor and not even able to feed my cats. I’ll shill for anything. You have my e-mail and my web site. i will be your willing pyschop – false flag bearing pawn. Contact me. I think we can work something out.
    thanks,

    Jerry Kimbro
    PS I love Superman.

  43. October 11, 2010 - 5:49 am | Permalink

    Dear Doc,

    I read your article “Sex plague” I gotta agree with you- BUT I don’t think things are that bad. I think what will happen is the media will become such crap people will turn away from it in mass. Its an acknowledged fact that no one believes network news anymore, and that reality TV has driven millions away form TV viewing (mostly older people 50s and up). I think people will wise up- return to reading classics, and the Bible and hopefully become gardeners, artists, or pursue other worthwhile pursuits, while the mass media commits suicide. Anyway that’s what I think.

    Good article BTW. The novel Ragtime by EL Doctorow refers to a plague brought by Fred to America- but until now- I had NO idea that idea came from a quote by Freud. I wish Doctorow had included it in his book. It would have made what he was saying so much clearer. I mention it because I was forced to read it in college and it always stuck in my head.

    Thanks,

    Jerry Kimbro
    jerrykimbro@centurylink.net

  44. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 4:49 am | Permalink

    The Peter Myers v Lasha Darkmoon saga continues thrillingly on Peter’s fascinating email list connected to his website. Darkmoon the Dreadful has taken many a fall at the hands of champion wrestler Peter the Peerless, but still manages to stagger to her feet and totter round the ring like a sleepwalker groping her way through the mist…

    Here is Darkmoon’s latest email to Peter the Peerless which she has challenged him to to publish on his website or circulate to his innumerable ectomorphic email listees—all thirsting for Darkmoon the Dreadful’s vampiric blood:

    Peter: Thank you for sending me this interesting material. The only thing I disapprove of strongly is your subject heading, “LASHA’S BLOG: SHE ADMITS THAT SHE DOCTORED THE FREUD QUOTE.”

    Dear Peter, I did no such thing! and I would ask you to post this comment of mine next time you refer to the subject online. I admit that I deliberately left out the qualifier and I gave my reasons for doing so—the need for keeping captions to pictures pithy and to the point so as to capture the reader’s attention—but the word “doctoring” is needlessly strong. It gives the wrong impression: of intellectual dishonesty. And how can I be guilty of such a crime when I admit freely that I left out the qualifier for the reasons I gave? The most I am guilty of, Peter, is slipshod scholarship. (But even that I do not admit to, since I apply other standards and use other less rigid criteria.)

    Having said all this, Peter, allow me to commend you for your erudition, your attention to detail, and your intellectual integrity. It has been a pleasure for me to cross swords with such a formidable opponent.

    Sincere best wishes,

    Lasha Darkmoon.

  45. caleb's Gravatar caleb
    October 11, 2010 - 4:41 am | Permalink

    “And the goyim never produced a spiritual classic like the Talmud in which pedophilia is endorsed”

    there is absolutely no pedophilia condoned in the talmud. bring me a source, which i assume will be an english trans{and all translations are commentaries} and i will refute and prove wrong anything you can cite.

    as far as who owns what, that would require extensive resources-let someone do a PHD on that.

  46. October 11, 2010 - 4:24 am | Permalink

    My Dear….How astute, courageous and observant….I just read your Sex Plague off the Jeff Rense site and I just had to give you 5 stars for articulating what is hidden in plain sight.

    A segment of our collective earthly population that is an invisible hand in the manifestation and manipulation of the majority of evil in this world. They are able to manipulate the magnetic fields of the feeling only crowd but are coming into full view of the electrically charged people of intellect and I applaud you for your courage and tenacity for pointing humanity to a higher plain.

    My love and prayers are with you……………LDV

  47. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 11, 2010 - 2:17 am | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel @ October 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM

    “I think we should cut Lasha some slack… her articles are interesting… written in a vivid, inimitable style…an artist and a woman…well-known softness of mind and heart…fallen hard under the evil influence of rabbi Jeebus…She is still young…she has been deceived by this cult…her association with a site like this one could be construed as a hopeful sign…we owe it to our racial sister Lasha to help her come to a deeper understanding…”

    Lucrezia Borgia’s biography by Jack the Ripper…? :)

  48. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 10, 2010 - 11:02 pm | Permalink

    “… we our it to our racial sister Lasha to help her …”

    I meant “we owe it”, of course.

  49. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 10, 2010 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    @ German

    “Artists are simple-hearted souls. Today they sign this, tomorrow that; they don’t even look to see what it is, so long as it seems to them well-meaning.”
    – Adolf Hitler (quoted in Frederic Spotts, Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics)

    Though I agree her lack of White racism is unfortunate and depressing, I think we should cut Lasha some slack. Though they may not always stand up to strict academic scrutiny, her articles are interesting and written in a vivid, inimitable style. We also should keep in mind that she’s an artist and a woman, with all the well-known softness of mind and heart that this implies. Never forget, too, that she has also fallen hard under the evil influence of rabbi Jeebus and his anti-racist cult of Christianity, a highly refined system of mind control that has, through the centuries, subverted many powerful intellects. She is still young, and maybe with our help, she’ll eventually understand how she has been deceived by this cult and work things out herself. Certainly her association with a site like this one could be construed as a hopeful sign. In any case, we our it to our racial sister Lasha to help her come to a deeper understanding of these things, if we can.

    “I have long realised that actors and artistes often have such fantastic ideas that one is compelled from time to time to shake an admonitory finger at them and bring them back to earth.”
    – Adolf Hitler, Table Talk, p.443

  50. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 10, 2010 - 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Rather than “I have to agree with you” what I mean is “I have to admit.”

  51. Xanadu (Lasha)'s Gravatar Xanadu (Lasha)
    October 10, 2010 - 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Jim @ October 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    German said:

    “But Lasha Darkmoon is not better than Peter Myers as I have explained here:”

    Well, I have to agree with you, German, it is discouraging to read that from Lasha. I know that it’s hard for a lot of people, anyone really, to take such an unpopular position as we do here and then be confronted about that position by someone you may admire. I don’t think she was completely contrary to the ideas expressed here at TOO. I do have tolerance for a range of views here, as my own don’t jibe with a lot of others. Still, maybe taking time to figure out where her mind’s at would be a good idea.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Dear Friends,

    I ask you to forgive me for any offense I have given you. Sincerity is the emotion that drives me, and I can honestly say that what I said at that time I believed sincerely. I believed at that time in the possibility of a multicultural Utopia. Of different races being able to live together in peace and harmony. Of the leopard lying down with the lamb.

    Remember what I said in that email: that I was confused in my ideas, that I was “seeing through a glass darkly.” I was lost in a labyrinth of ideas. I was stumbling through the fog. I still am.

    But I ask you to accept that I have moved on since then. I am no longer the person who wrote that email.

    There was nothing underhand about that email. I knew it was going to be published on ‘Shamir Readers’. It’s been onlne in the public domain for the last three months. It’s not as if I have a skeleton in the cupboard, is it? German han’t discovered a “guilty secret” of mine, has he?

    When all is said and done, this is storm in a teacup. A minor slipup on my part. Still, I now offer my sincere apologies to German and to anyone else I have offended by my unfortunate remarks.

    Xanadu / Lasha

    

  52. Aoz Roon's Gravatar Aoz Roon
    October 10, 2010 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

    The Joy of Old Testament Sex: Incest, pedophilia, masturbation, rape, bestiality, homosexuality, adultery, wife-swapping, etc. Only things left out are the pics.

    http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/ep03326346.pdf
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/ot_list.html

  53. Larry's Gravatar Larry
    October 10, 2010 - 2:08 pm | Permalink

    TGD in reply, I would suggest Jesus came to turn Judaism on its head.Loving your enemies is not the way of Judaism.The Christian way of loving your neighbour, is a window into a non physical, non suffering realm, which is our inheritance. The symbolic Adam and Eve story signifies man’s fall from this realm. But taking physical form I would suggest is the way to develop spiritually ( all life is suffering and impermanent )
    The modern Jewish rabbi, who has been a porn star, and still extols its virtues, is indeed missing the mark, but we mustn’t forget that Jesus mixed with these kinds of people to show them his way of love and peace and indeed forgiveness. But Lasha has brilliantly highlighted the corruption which comes from the pursuit of money and power.

  54. Robert.'s Gravatar Robert.
    October 10, 2010 - 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Hi Lasha,
    I read your article, “Sex Plague” as it was featured on the Save the males site.

    I would like to share with you the fact that there are TWO seperate and distinct one from the other, sets of Jews on planet Earth.

    The first group of Jews are the descendants of Abraham

    The second group of Jews, are “False Jews” who lie about being Jews, they are occultists.

    The word “Zionist” has two meanings:

    1: A person who believes in the setting up of, and the continuation of, the state of Israel.

    2: A particular group of people, who are described below, they are sometimes refered to as Ashkenazi Jews.

    When most people (About 99%) use the word Zionist they are using the first definition.

    Around 740 AD a tribe in eastern Russia called the Khazars converted to Judaism at the behest of their leader, this was a political decision rather than a religious decision.

    They have no connection to the original Hebrews of Palestine but they spread far and wide and multiplied.

    These are the so called Jews who run Israel and are mostly found in Europe and America.

    The original Jews scattered around Arabia and North Africa in the Arab lands where they were tolerated. Some stayed in Palestine living alongside the Palestinians for centuries.

    Zionism came into being in the 19th century as a movement to occupy Palestine and expell the original inhabitants.

    They have largely succeeded in doing that by encouraging millions of western Khazars to emigrate to Palestine.

    Some believe that the Zionists encouraged the Nazis to persecute the Khazars in Europe to get lots of them to want to set up home in Palestine.

    The Ashkenazi Jews would be those spoken of in……
    Revelation2:9. I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of satan.

    And also… Revelation 3:9. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    The Greek word which has been translated into the English word “Synagogue” is the same word which in other places has been translated into “Church” or “Gathering” or “Group”

    Robert.

  55. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 10, 2010 - 12:18 pm | Permalink

    German said:

    “But Lasha Darkmoon is not better than Peter Myers as I have explained here:”

    Well, I have to agree with you, German, it is discouraging to read that from Lasha. I know that it’s hard for a lot of people, anyone really, to take such an unpopular position as we do here and then be confronted about that position by someone you may admire. I don’t think she was completely contrary to the ideas expressed here at TOO. I do have tolerance for a range of views here, as my own don’t jibe with a lot of others. Still, maybe taking time to figure out where her mind’s at would be a good idea.

  56. German's Gravatar German
    October 10, 2010 - 10:26 am | Permalink

    Peter Myers has an interesting website, but he is clearly some kind of awakening leftist who is to vain to join those who identify with the white race. He has no coherent world view and the lucid ist juxtaposed with the obtuse. He endorses the holocaust. And still worse, he endorses also the “explanation” of the success of the White race by Jared Diamond who claimed that it was a lucky string of accidents.

    But Lasha Darkmoon is not better than Peter Myers as I have explained here:

    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3542&cpage=1#comment-16661

  57. German's Gravatar German
    October 10, 2010 - 8:04 am | Permalink

    Why does nobody mind the strange letter of L.D. aks xanadu to Stalin admirer Israel Shamir?

  58. Lucy Skipping's Gravatar Lucy Skipping
    October 10, 2010 - 8:03 am | Permalink

    @ p.a.travers

    “The writer has got me angry..I am not defending myself when in that state, as obviously I am firing something at her…. So I am not pleased by the Moon girl. I am on the planet, not in descriptions of those others that plainly are contemptible.”

    The Moon girl? She’s gotten you angry, huh? You think she’s contemptible?

    Me Too!

    Frankly, this bitch drives me wild. I wanna tear her goddamn eyes out. Only thing is, I can’t get close enough.

    So tell me p/a.travers, what exactly don’t you like about this Darkmoon chick? Can you be specific? What’s it about her you can’t stand?

    Any other Moonophobes? Now’s the time to speak!

  59. me's Gravatar me
    October 10, 2010 - 4:27 am | Permalink

    forced to commit usury against the entire world. Eighty generations of persecution by other races and exploitation
    they weren’t ‘forced’ they chose to- the amish,the hugenaughts, and other religious groups and ethnicities have been expelled – very few have chosen to exploit others and be eternally hostile towards all humanity – they weren’t ‘persecuted’ in most cases’ but rather, the host populations reacted to their behavior.

  60. p.a.travers's Gravatar p.a.travers
    October 10, 2010 - 1:24 am | Permalink

    Sorry to dominate.Recently in Tasmania[Australia] an invent has unfolded about paid sex with a very young girl,involving as some have suggested,200hundred males.Police Officers as well.The crap that is going on about that,doesn’t stop the problem that the Powers that be seem to be indulging in a cover up.What I mean by crap is at an Australian Blog site LavartusProdeo one, Jack Strocchi has said the liberal position is in its death throes.So I suppose,parents who maybe, exploring what they accept should be politically,may find themselves wondering out aloud why someone like him would conclude that.I doubt anyone of any sound mind could accept paid child rape,as it is under Tasmanian law.Tasmania is where a young man called Martin Bryant is in jail for multiple murders.I doubt he done it,and it took me too many years to think that,more to express that as an opinion.There is a background Jewish phenomena that was opiniating at the time of all that problem.A real problem that included, some think was a psyops in activity.Another form of pornography is accepting,what is said by authorities and media about this case,as it is about the paid sex rape case.So I am not pleased by the Moon girl.I am on the planet,not in descriptions of those others that plainly are contemptible.

  61. p.a.travers's Gravatar p.a.travers
    October 10, 2010 - 1:06 am | Permalink

    Whilst it is fairly plain that Jews tend to dominate in a lot of spheres including pornography,I doubt very much Wilhelm Reich would allow himself to be depicted as a friend of porno as a result of being Jewish.It could also be true that his sex life starting at 14 years of age,if my memory served me,or his first sexual encounter was with a 14 year old,that . doesn’t mean that, the acclaimed matter of being Freudian is anywhere near what his works suggest.Pretty hard to comprehend, unless one is familiar with matters other than sex and psychological values,then to me ,the article disempowers some of the more assertive matters of her exposition[meaning; show].Wilhelm Reich influenced Arthur Janov a unique individual who saw the problems of returned American soldiers of Vietnam.A very decent person in a modern sense,even when it is still possible to be nit-picking about some influences on him.Getting on in years,like most people who take the time to read all of his printed literature,and that of the wonderful Russian A.R.Luria who whilst being a lowly paid clinical doctor spent twenty years working on a patient with a bullet hole in his head.Compare that with Frankl and his output as a result of what appears some matters of controversy as in being in a certain concentration camp,and one can see that those who like Arthur Janov,a caring man ,may have more pressure to stop him,than the present article writer ever has or will ever feel.So the inherited,if you like result of understanding W.R. more thoroughly will not be the resultant choices of the article writer.Who as far as I am concerned is applying some basic propositions to explain a phenomena that does exist,with a particular bias that is self assured,thus, must be tested,proven to be not what every point assumes,and then,given the same type of crap speak, that she points out the Jews indulge in.For if you ,or anyone else decides continually to derive some strange joy in claiming this or that about The Left.Make sure you are actually talking about real people,and real attitudes today and in the past,under that word “Left.”Or plainly shut up.Wilhelm Reich obviously had it in for military types,yes,Nazis also.But to assume whatever are the failures of grasping certain matters of history and physical character render all he found operational is to be considered bunk-artistry.The writer has got me angry..I am not defending myself when in that state,as obviously I am firing something at her.

  62. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 10, 2010 - 12:58 am | Permalink

    I invited Peter to forward his letter to Kevin MacDonald if he wished, but to include this brief rejoinder by me.

    Peter,

    I don’t mind you forwarding your letter to Kevin MacDonald provided you include this rejoinder too.

    You object to title of my essay and suggest I change it. You object to the way the quotations are presented in the epigraph and wish them presented in a different form. You have raised numerous other objections to my work…. Indeed, all you have done, it seems to me, is to find fault with this and that in my work and make suggestions as to how I could improve it — thereby making it more acceptable to the erudite intellectuals with whom you associate and who read your website and/or feature on your mailing list.

    If I make certain changes to satisfy you, and persuade my editor to alter my text so that it meets with your full approval, you promise then to promote my work to a wider audience.

    This is all very flattering, Peter, and I thank you for your concern. But allow me to say that if my editor Kevin MacDonald were to make as many demands on me as you do, I would stop writing at once and take up some other pursuit. Thank goodness I have an editor who understands my needs and lets me say pretty much what I want in the way I wish to say it.

    Sincere best wishes,

    Lasha D

  63. Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)
    October 10, 2010 - 12:45 am | Permalink

    Peter Myers continues his critique iof “Sex Plague”:

    Lasha,

    I won’t put out your other letters – only the one you challenged me to
    publish. It went to my mailing list; it won’t go to my website.

    As for the forum, I meant the blog where you post as Xanadu.

    You sent me a link to the discussions/debates there:
    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3542

    Can I suggest that you put my letter there?

    As for changes – that’s up to you. I made suggestions.

    You are a stimulating writer. But you write in an emotional way – it’s
    both a strength and a weakness. The strength is that it moves the
    reader; the weakness is that you can skip over errors and
    exaggerations.

    Can I remind you that MacDonald himself wrote, at
    http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=1647

    Kevin MacDonald:

    “Whenever Lasha Darkmoon sends me something to post I get a bit of an anxiety attack. On one hand, I know that her articles draw huge interest from readers. Her articles on Jewish influence on art struck a real chord, leading to dozens of emails to her and two later articles that summarized some of the comments — many from artists grateful that someone had finally put a finger on the problem.

    On the other hand, she seeks to have impact an an emotional level that
    is at times unsettling and may be seen by many as “over the top.” Her
    latest articles (see here and here) definitely push the envelope —
    beginning with the illustrations from Dees that appear at the top of
    each article. I cringed at both, especially the one that graces the
    top of the second article and only left it in after special pleading
    from Lasha. It’s not my style, certainly.”

    So, I am not so different from MacDonald in my reaction.

    I’m not trying to stymie your career; far from it. I’m simply trying
    to bring you down to earth. If you update the article, correcting it
    in various ways, it will still move the reader, but not be vulnerable.

    However, I understand, from my own experience, that you will not be
    able to rewrite it just now. You have to wait until the spirit moves
    you; I do too.

    Such pieces are a work of art, and can not be produced at will by the
    rational mind.

    So, leave it for the present. Think it over, and see what you come up
    with. Only you can do it; and if you can’t, nobody will.

    The Greeks came up with the word “dialectic” for debate that moves the
    participants. There’s both a rational and an emotional component. I
    feel that it applies to the interchange between you and me.

    Perhaps, therefore, it will lead to some sort of synthesis.

    I would like to cc this letter to MacDonald, but won’t do so without
    your consent.

    Peter

  64. Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)
    October 10, 2010 - 12:34 am | Permalink

    Peter Myers continues with his crititicism of “Sex Plague”:

    Lasha,

    There is a plague of rampant licentiousness, as you say, but the
    phrase “sex plague” needs a qualifier, as one can see by analogy with
    food.

    One might speak of a plague of “junk food”, but one would not call it
    a “food plague”, as if food per se is unpleasant. Instead, one would
    call it a “junk food plague”. By analogy, one might refer to a plague
    of soulless sex; or a profanity of sex.

    The term “sex plague”, without a qualifier, implies a Manichean
    distaste for sex. The Christian fundamentalists want to return to the
    old repressive days. You yourself may not have such a view, but
    readers in wider society – outside the Far Right – may get that
    impression.

    I myself would like to put your article out to my email bulletin,
    which reaches acadamics and influential people outside the Far Right;
    but without the (relatively small) modifications I have suggested, it
    would be vulnerable to being “shot down” by critics, not least on
    account of its misquoting Freud.

    You have not modied your Sex Plague article, even though the Freud
    quote, as you have it, is actually a conjunction of two quotes,
    separated by “…”.

    This is not really accurate, yet you use the “Dr” prefix to imply
    academic standards. You can’t have it both ways.

    The context of Freud’s “plague” comment – that is was made to Jung,
    who used to quote it to his students – is not at all unimportant. It
    is you who are making much of this quote, so it is not “nitpicking” to
    check out its etiology as I have done.

    But Jung was no conspirator against Western values. And if Freud said
    it in a conspiratorial tone, he would be be betraying his secret to an
    enemy.

    Therefore it would appear that Freud was joking. That is, only half
    serious, but with perhaps a sting that is noticeable in hindsight.

    Not all of Psychoanalysis has been harmful. Dr John Bowlby, inventor
    of the term “Bonding”, developed his Attachment theory partly out of
    his Psychoanalytic background. Attachment theory relates Bonding to
    our instinctive side – to Ethology.

    This was a key theme of my B.A. Hons thesis in Anthrolopology; it
    dealt with the conduct of Childbirth. When sheep and goats give birth,
    human interference (eg touching the baby) can interfere with Bonding,
    leading the mother to reject it. I myself have had to bottle-feed a
    lamb on this account.

    The modern conduct of human birth is wrongly done, from this
    biological viewpoint. The result is 30% Cesareans, and an epidemic of
    Postpartum depression. After I became aware of the pitfalls, three of
    my own children were home births.

    Sex culture existed before Judaism was invented. The Gilgamesh Epic is
    full of sex; it was the leading epic story of Sumeria, the first
    civilization, and well-known wherever Babylonian culture spread, eg in
    the Canaanite/Phoenician and early Greek worlds of the Meditterranean.
    http://mailstar.net/adam-and-eve.html

    The Song of Solomon, ie Song of Songs, is a book in the Jewish Bible
    which inherits much of that Sumerian/Babylonian sex-culture. It’s the
    only book of the Jewish Bible which does not mention God. Yet it’s in
    all the Canons.

    The Harappan Civilization featured the same sex-culture; there was
    civilizational continuity all the way from the Fertile Crescent to
    north-west India.

    The Dionysiac culture of Greece preserved that sex culture in the
    Western world; and it still erupts periodically.

    Futher, the Osirian rite of Egypt had a sex theme; Oriris was the
    counterpart of Siva (of India) and Dionysius (of Greece). See Siva and
    Dionysius, by Alain Danielou (brother of Cardinal Jean Danielou).
    http://mailstar.net/india-pakistan.html

    However, none of those sex-cultures were trashy or brash like Jewish
    “Modern Art” and the Jewish Pornographers you feature in your Art and
    Sex webpages. They are really ANTI-civilizational, nihilistic.

    It’s important to make the distinction.

    We DO need to get rid of Pornography and re-introduce Censorship. But
    the changes must not banish sex per se, as many Christian
    Fundamentalists would have; it’s vital to settle on a middle position,
    rather than return to the cloister or cast sex as the domain of the
    Devil.

    That’s why it’s important to make some (relatively minor) corrections
    to your Art and Sex webpages.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-Sex-Plague.html

    I am aware of at least one article on MacDonald’s website which has
    been modified since being placed there. Specifically, Eric Knutsson
    modified his articles on Jews, Vienna & Postmodernism. So, you could
    do this if you wish; if you do, can I suggest that you give the date
    of the update.

    You challenged me to put your letter on my website. What I will do is
    put it out to my mailing list, with this rejoinder.

    Can I suggest that you also put this letter of mine in your forum?

    Israel Shamir put your material out to his email list; hopefully he
    will put this letter out too.

    Peter

  65. Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)
    October 10, 2010 - 12:27 am | Permalink

    Peter Myers continues with his negative critique of “Sex Plague”

    Lasha,

    The Plague quote is not on p. 106 as your correspondent said, but on
    p. 110. That is, unless there are multiple editions of CoC; mine is
    dated 1998.

    The text says,

    {quote}
    We have seen that a common component of Jewish intellectual activity
    since the Enlightenment has been to criticize gentile culture. Freud’s
    ideas haveoften been labeled as subversive. Indeed, “[Freud] was
    convinced that it was in the very nature of psychoanalytic doctrine to
    appear shocking and subversive. On board ship to America he did not
    feel that he was bringing that country a new panacea. With his
    typically dry wit he told his traveling companions, ‘We are bringing
    them the plague’ ” (Mannoni 1971,168).
    {end quote}

    I actually found it online at JewWatch

    http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-mindcontrol-new-left.html

    They had sourced it from MY earlier Cyberone webpage on MacDonald:
    http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/macdonald.html

    The new webpage is http://mailstar.net/macdonald.html

    In that quote, Freud appears to be calling Psychoanalysis a plague.
    He’s not calling Sex a plague.

    However, it’s possible that those words were spoken in jest.

    Thomas Elsaesser poses that possibility, below. He says that,
    according to the sources, Freud made the remark to Jung, who used to
    quote it to his students.

    But Jung was no conspirator against Western values. And if Freud said
    it in a conspiratorial tone, he would be be betraying his secret to an
    enemy.

    Therefore it would appear that Freud was joking. That is, only half
    serious, but with perhaps a sting that is noticeable in hindsight.

    Given that you yourself have not seen Mannoni’s book (the source
    MacDonald used), or, it seems, delved into the etiology of the quote,
    it would have been more prudent not to have made assumptions about it
    when naming your article “Sex Plague”, taking that name from the Freud
    quote, and displaying a big photo of Freud.

    It’s not that I’m condemning your article. There’s much in it that I
    find important. But to present it to wider society – and thereby hope
    to influence that wider society – one would need to be exacting in
    small details, even though, as you say, you are only writing for
    internet audiences.

    The quote from Thomas Elsaesser follows.

    Peter

    NO END TO NOSFERATU

    by Thomas Elsaesser, 2007

    http://eurekavideo.co.uk/moc/catalogue/nosferatu/essay

    What is this surplus energy or meaning that brings forth these figures
    of excessive but also inextinguishable desire? Excess there is, yet is
    it actually a matter of desire? ‘We bring them the plague, and they
    don’t even know it,’ Freud is supposed to have said to Jung the day
    the two of them disembarked in New York harbour in 1908. [9] Whether
    spoken in jest or not, some would agree, given the strange history of
    psychoanalysis in the US.

    Where footnote 9 reads

    9. Another six degrees of separation? According to Elisabeth
    Roudinesco, it was Carl G. Jung who related Freud’s remark to Jacques
    Lacan, who was fond of quoting it to his students. See Elizabeth
    Roudinesco (1997) Jacques Lacan, and also quoted in Octave Mannoni
    (1971) Freud (translation by R. Belice), p.168.

  66. Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (on behalf of Peter Myers)
    October 10, 2010 - 12:21 am | Permalink

    In which Peter Myers raises further objections to various grave imperfections in my recent article “Sex Plague”:

    Just as Judaism seems perversely voyeuristic as regards sex, so a
    person who tracks this practice tends to be put in the same position.

    I suppose that’s why I feel uncomfortable with your two pieces on Jews and
    Sex.

    At times I felt, “surely this is an exaggeration”; or that episodic
    events had been collected artificially.

    When I saw your reference to Peter Singer’s article on Bestiality, I
    thought that YOU must be overdoing it. But it turns out that HE was.

    Even so, I don’t find the photos on either of your sex webpages at all
    beautiful, interesting, or sexually arousing.

    On the other hand, the sculptures in Indian temples are so. Yet, even though explicit in some ways, they always leave much to the imagination – whereas pornography does not. It reduces sex to mechanical acts.

    In short, pornography eliminates the soul from the picture. Sex in those statues is clearly between, not just bodies but persons. and the aim is to give delight to the other person. That’s why it’s associated with notions of love, even if in short-term encounters. Indian sculptures are completely different from Jewish pornography.

    Your articles also seem to be saying something implicitly; I’m having
    difficulty formulating it.

    Consider the name of your second webpage, “sex plague”.

    And for comparison let’s say that there’s a plague of junk food, which
    we might call “junk food plague”.

    Calling it “junk food plague” does not give the impression that we
    regard food ITSELF as a plague … as if we’d called it “food plague”.

    The qualifier makes all the difference; it makes clear we’re
    condemning “junk food” but not “food”.

    That does not come across when you talk of “sex plague”. But in my
    opinion there is a need for a qualifier in this case too … why not
    call it “junk sex”? Soul-less sex might be another term.

    Junk food … junk sex. People would get the idea. There’s wholesome
    food and wholesome sex; but some people promote junk versions of each.
    It seems that Jews in particular have been promoting junk sex.
    Somehow, I think that you are not going to go along with this idea.

    I very consciously called my website “Neither Aryan Nor Jew”. Even
    though I venture into domains where most people would fear to tread, I
    maintain a middle position. I use the dialectical tension between Far
    Left and Far Right to gain insights from both and stay independent of
    both.

    At times it feels like straddling a barbed-wire fence.

    At the start of my webpage on MacDonald, I write:

    “Suppose the 50s be called Thesis, and the 60s Counterculture called
    Antithesis, then I advocate Synthesis, whereas MacDonald advocates a
    return to Thesis.”

    http://mailstar.net/macdonald.html

    Peter

  67. Xanadu (for Peter Myers)'s Gravatar Xanadu (for Peter Myers)
    October 10, 2010 - 12:05 am | Permalink

    Peter Myers has asked me to copy and paste some of his private emails to me on this site. I have agreed to do this for him, selecting the emails in which he raises concerns about various aspects of my article that gave him cause for concern.

    (Re the epigraph which consists of a conflation of two quotes)

    I don’t think you should put the two within one set of quote marks. Can I suggest that you update the webpage to separate them.

    As you know, I am sympathetic. But hostile critics use footnote-checking to undermine an opponent.

    Don’t give them an inch, or they’ll take a mile.

    Be on guard over little things; that’s how they bring you down.

    If you’re in an emotional state when you write something, don’t send
    it until you’ve slept on it and have had a chance to review it.

    this is apparently a pretty well-known quote

    It can be like the cat chasing its tail. It is important to verify important quotes, because we humans have a habit of quoting each other without checking.

    It IS a damning quote; the more so, the need to be able to defend its
    use. Can I suggest that you ask MacDonald for the reference to this quote. And if you find it, please let me know.

  68. Dan's Gravatar Dan
    October 9, 2010 - 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Lasha, the “plague” quote attributed to Dr. Freud (upon his arrival in New York Harbor, aboard the SS George Washington, on Sunday, August 29, 1909) itself first arrived in print (albeit in French) in 1956, as far as I have yet discovered, in a Jacques Lacan article in L’Evolution Psychiatrique (Volume 16, Number 2, pp. 225-252). Ten years later, it became a chapter in a Lacan collection entitled “Ecrits”– which has subsequently been published in English (including a 2006 translation by Bruce Fink that is subtitled “The First Complete Edition in English”). In English, the article-chapter is entitled “The Freudian Thing, or The Meaning of the Return to Freud in Psychoanalysis” (per Fink). Its subtitle states that it is an expanded version of a lecture given at the Vienna Neuropsychiatric Clinic on November 7, 1955.

    Lacan’s alleged source for the quote was Freud’s own “apostle to the gentiles,” so as to speak, Dr. Carl Jung, who was traveling with Freud on his sole trip to America. According to “The Cambridge Companion to Lacan” (by Jean-Michel Rabate), Lacan had visited Dr. Jung in Kussnacht, Switzerland, near Zurich, sometime during 1954. (Jung died in 1961, twenty years before Lacan’s own death.) Here is the passage in “Ecrits” (as translated into English by Bruce Fink):

    “Thus Freud’s comment to Jung (I have it from Jung’s own mouth)– when, having been invited by Clark University, they arrived in view of New York Harbor and of the famous statue illuminating the universe, ‘They don’t realize we’re bringing them the plague’– was turned against him as punishment for the hubris whose antiphrasis and darkness do not extinguish its turbid brilliance. To catch its author in her trap, Nemesis had merely to take him at his word. We would be justified in fearing that Nemesis added a first-class ticket home.” ["Ecrits: The First Complete Edition in English" by Jacques Lacan, translated by Bruce Fink, p. 336 (2006)]

    The quote is what we lawyers would call hearsay. Do I believe that Freud could have said it? Yes! Do I believe that Jung would have made up the quote and fed it to Lacan? No! Do I believe that Lacan could have made up the quote and put it into Jung’s mouth? Yes– but, since Lacan used it publicly at least as early as November 7, 1955, and published it in 1956, two years after meeting Jung, and five years before Jung’s death, I think that it is very likely that Jung, in fact, did give the quote to Lacan, and that Freud, in fact, had said it, or something very similar, as the SS George Washington passed through the Verrazano Narrows, separating Brooklyn from Staten Island, just over a century ago now, when Drs. Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung and Sandor Ferenczi arrived in Upper New York Bay, en route to Clark University, in Worcester, Massachusetts, via New York City. As a joke posted on our bulletin board in law school once read: “Yes, it’s hearsay– but it’s damn good hearsay!”

  69. October 9, 2010 - 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Dr. Darkmoon:

    My dear, I get many emails: from Obama, from Jewish websites, from anti-Zionist websites, from wesites trying to sell me Viagra, from here, from there, everywhere…Coupla days ago I get one of the many that ‘Rebel News’ send me: Your essay ‘Sex Plague’…I must tell you something: while your essay is extremely well written (as usual) quite historically correct, and enlightening , you put things in an ‘apocalyptical’ context, making allusions to ‘Revelation’…Do not fall into a trap, for ‘the end is not yet’…Book of ‘Revelation’ is circular in nature anyway: events there happen all at once, as I see it, and those waiting for ‘the end’ will be disappointed for ‘no man knows the hour when He comes’.

    Contrary to what alarmists may say, healthy morality is alive and well, and pornography is merely a sensationalizing of emptiness…Sure, certain Jews are big hustlers of cheap goods, counterfeit ones, too…But, as is written, ‘there is nothing new under the sun’…The forms get more raw, bolder, more animated and the cockroaches come crawling out of the closet; but it will only make it easier to crush them out when the light hits them…

    This week, I play music at an expensive ’boutique’ hotel, owned by some wealthy folk, and managed by a Jewish woman…I can tell you that she, and most Jews, are revolted by the examples of ‘art’ that you mention, and reject this shit as any Christian would…People crave real beauty, and most will recognize it if they get a chance to see or hear it…This ‘art’ that you illustrated in your essay is really just a reflection of a spiritual disease…Stepping away from the visual art world for a moment, and considering music, Jewish artists, especially instrumentalists and conductors make a great contribution (some as composers, also: Schoenberg?…Pfffttt!!!)…Now this is just the ‘classical’ music world.

    In the area of spirituality, what Jews lack is Christ, and this lack is the root of all problems associated with them…But, I tell you, the Gospel has spread to the ends of the Earth, and even in the midst of such sensationalized shit, Christ works whether people notice or not…

    For you, I would hope that you enjoy the beauty of real art & music…As I say, while forms may change, the spirit of God stills works through his servants in artistic areas…Do not fall into despair and let your own soul become overwhelmed by darkness…Have some faith in human kind, because the human spirit, as a reflection of God’s love, will triumph.

    Also, art does not end with ‘the Classics’, in the traditional sense…New classics are being created right now, but unfortunately ‘consumerism’ and the worship of money prevents a wider exposure of new work…But, this is the real artist’s ‘cross to bear’, rejection by the world, and the contempt of cheap hustlers…Also, remember that sometimes real art can be disturbing i.e. Van Gogh’s later work…

    In meantime, support your local artists and accentuate the positive, and continue with your fine writing…………….Frank D.

  70. 3D's Gravatar 3D
    October 9, 2010 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    “THE JEWISH REVOLUTIONARY SPIRIT and it’s impact on world history”, by E. Michael Jones, details a very peculiar fact regarding all of the revolutionary incidents of European history: A central and primary component of each of these social upheavals was SEXUAL LICENCE.

  71. October 9, 2010 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Beavers have been reintroduced in the Western U.S. in the last few decades after being virtually trapped to extinction. One of the most common methods is to put parachutes on three pairs or so and drop them from light aircraft into forested land. As soon as they hit the ground they chew out of their chutes and head for the nearest stream. They promptly start to build a dam by cutting down the nearest trees. This is no conspiracy to build dams, it is genetics.

    My old correspondent Rich Faussette pointed out that Jews are exactly like beavers. When they infest a country, they immediately build dams at all of the choke points of society. These are the media, banking, law, education, and government. This is not a conscious conspiracy, it is genetics.

    This comes from thrown out of Israel 2,000 years ago by the Romans and forced to commit usury against the entire world. Eighty generations of persecution by other races and exploitation of other races has bred a new species which resembles a human but is not. It is therefore impossible to reform Jews. They can unfortunately still interbreed with humans.

    Henry Ford offered $1,000 to the first person who could bring him a Jewish farmer ($50,000 in current money) Nobody ever had to pay off on this one far but the time is coming.

    The process must be reversed. Jews must be thrown back into Israel to undo the terrible actions of the Romans by throwing them out. They will in short order change their ways. Imagine Jewish farmers and Jewish Princess milkmaids. Imagine Jewish hard rock miners and construction workers. In a few generations, Jewish Princess jokes will even go out of fashion. Of course a massive ghetto wall will be necessary to keep any Jew from a foolish attempt to escape from paradise.

    Donald E. Pauly
    Zionist Rastafarian

  72. me's Gravatar me
    October 9, 2010 - 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Amazingly enough child porn was openly sold in US cities in the mid seventies especially in NYC.with the increase in muslims – who have similar sexual deprevity as the jews – expect it to rise again – google the dancing boys of afghanistan to see what will be the norm in America and Europe if muslim immigration is allowed to continue – of course, this is one reason jews WANT muslims in the West. to help destroy whatever morality we have left.

  73. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    October 9, 2010 - 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Daniel Cohn-Bendit is right at home in Germany

    Slate is sick William ‘Short Eyes’ Saletan explains how anal sex is becoming normal and why women who do it all the time with it get more orgasms.

    Anal is the main event in porn nowadays and that is connected to the fact the industry is overwhelmingly Jewish controlled. But the time when most actual porn performers were Jewish, especially the male ones, is long gone. That was only the case pre video when the product was made by a small goup of performers and Mafioso thugs kept out competition. Amazingly enough child porn was openly sold in US cities in the mid seventies especially in NYC.

  74. me's Gravatar me
    October 9, 2010 - 9:14 am | Permalink

    must be pretty sick of hearing these words i know you are just being a troll but.. do ballet dancers- even great masters – ever tire of doing plies? or a musician his scales? or athelete the basic push up? likewise, does the ballet teacher ever tire of seeing them and instructing dancers? They are spiritual exercises.

    You obviously don’t want to have a discussion about this- a discussion requires a basic degree of civility and intelligence on the both sides. Since you do not even understand the most basic tenant of prayer- yet in turn, condemn an entire religion, it is obvious any discussion is fruitless.

    I would only submit that if you really want to preserve western civilization – and the only bulwark that can possibly save whites from totall collapse you would stop trying to throw out the very fabric of our art, philsophy, theology and civilization.

  75. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    October 9, 2010 - 8:56 am | Permalink

    Larry, how often do you recite “The Lord’s Prayer?” Does it make you feel better? Hundreds of millions of Christians also recite it every day. The 3-headed God, Jehova, constituting the Father, Spirit and Son must be pretty sick of hearing these words recited hundreds of billions of times in every language imaginable since Jesus taught his Judean followers the proper way to pray. This is indeed a remarkable god. This is the very same god that breathed in the pleasing aroma of burning flesh (Genesis 8:21) and thereupon promised never to destroy the human race again. And this Jehova even accepted a human burnt offering (that is before Jesus). She was the daughter of Jephthah (Judges 11:35 -40). This very same god permits the beating to death of a Jew’s slave or slavegirl as long as it’s done over several days (Exodus 21:20 and 21:21). And talk about abortion, Jehova actually does permit it but only if the abortionist hits the woman in such a way as she has a miscarriage (Exodus 21:22-25).

  76. me's Gravatar me
    October 9, 2010 - 7:38 am | Permalink

    you do realize Dweeb Engel is a Jew, don’t you? Of course he is being disruptive. That’s what Jews do per their genetic hard-wiring
    i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but you’re right….if it quacks like a duck..

  77. Larry's Gravatar Larry
    October 9, 2010 - 6:40 am | Permalink

    Hi occidental observer
    You have indeed highlighted the darkness that we have descended to, in your excellent article on pornography. But from a Christian viewpoint one cannot explain by logic, the baseness of the business, to those who perpetrate or indulge in pornography. It has to come from a Christian conversion, deep within the heart. However, the governments we have elected to protect the vulnerable from this evil, are well and truly in the pockets of the banks and corporations, and will never stop it. In the UK the tabloids are basically diluted porn mags and have no truthful news whatsoever. Solution …………. non compliance, and educate your children on the dangers, and keep praying The Lord’s Prayer!
    Larry

  78. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 9, 2010 - 6:13 am | Permalink

    me: “Christians OPPOSE abortion – secular liberals- particularly jews PROMOTE it.”

    The truth is Christians, including Catholics, are hypocrites when it comes to abortion, just as they are in the other vices you mention. Since the vast majority of people in the US still claim to be Christians, it stands to reason that the vast majority of those 40 million aborted babies were from Christian wombs.

    me: “I suggest people just ignore you and your ‘jeebus’ posts which are intentionally meant to to be divisive.”

    You are unable to take your own advice, which is the very definition of a hypocrite.

  79. JJ's Gravatar JJ
    October 9, 2010 - 6:04 am | Permalink

    It should be recognized that all minorities, living in a foreign lands are going to develop hostility toward the majority; they are living under the rule of others. The concept of assimilation is futile. It will simply strike the ears of such minorities as a form of dominance, because, well, that is what it is.
    Because Jews have always lived among others they do not possess the social mores that build societies- for they have never built a society-and such mores are foreign to them. The hostility which is prevalent in all minority groups is exacerbated and developed into the religion of the Jews, a psychology that is more psychosis, a culture that is more anti-culture, where the very lowest and base in mankind become noble, the vulgar and decadent, a high art.

  80. john's Gravatar john
    October 9, 2010 - 4:16 am | Permalink

    I get the impression that the God of Judaism and Israel is Lucifer, this interview was a pointer http://www.biblestudysite.com/tyranny.htm

    Lucifer exists and also goes by the name of Satan or the Devil. Other evil entities exists eg Demons and Ahriman, also negative aliens such as the reptilians–it looks to me that Lucifer is a reptilian as all the psychopaths who run the planet, eg Bush, Kissinger, Clinton etc are Satanists, and when you go deep down that shit hole you find satanism was created and maintained by the Reptilians. Either they are possessed or hosting reptilian entities. See james Bartley http://www.whale.to/b/bartley_h.html

    Porn is an invention of the dark side as any cursory investigation will show you, eg Judith Reisman http://www.drjudithreisman.com

    Being a Brit I was gobsmacked to see a TV channell in a hotel I was in showing a USA programme where the guy was bragging about the numbers of lap dancing clubs in a city as if it was some sort of gold standard of integrity rather than what it is, a standard of depravity. We were also treated to watching a porn makerat work— the people who were at it like rabbits were obviously, to me, on drugs, which makes you wonder how many porn stars are drug addicts or users? Reisman says it makes you impotent, so then you get Pharma drugs or get into coke, dope etc, all supplied by the Zionists Elite.

    Also if you look at the TIR tone scale you will find porn stars, hookers etc are 1.1 on the tone scale, called covert-hostile, which is self-explanatory. No doubt their industry is run by the psychopaths who are 1-6% of the population and most hide out in criminality (eg US gov), porn trade, business etc.

    The world seems to be run by psychopathic Zionsists, who run the psychopathic state called Israel, one guy said Israel is the front for the American Military Industrial Complex and there is massive evidence to show Israel, in league with Zionsists who run the US gov did 911, as Bollyn points out http://www.whale.to/b/bollyn_b.html

  81. me's Gravatar me
    October 9, 2010 - 4:10 am | Permalink

    The 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade are proof of your hypocrisy.
    Der weiße Enge, you are just being an absurd, disruptive troll- Christians OPPOSE abortion – secular liberals- particularly jews PROMOTE it.

    You are either being obtuse – like a talmudic ‘scholar’ or remarkably ignorant – either way, as I said before you’re nothing but a disruptive troll and I suggest people just ignore you and your ‘jeebus’ posts which are intentionally meant to to be divisive.

  82. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 9, 2010 - 3:03 am | Permalink

    Ian @ October 9, 2010 at 12:56 AM

    “Hope you’re happy Hen, oops sorry. Take care genuinely no offence or disrespect intended. Ian”

    No offense taken, Ian. Just pulling your leg. Which I reckon you knew, being a canny Scot.

    Btw, I was in Scotland last Christmas. Oh, the heather and the haggis, the kilts and the sporrans, the beer and the bagpipes and Auld lang syne! Quite a country, Scotland. But it beats me how you guys can go striding round the place in those skimpy kilts in such cold and windy weather. You must be all masochists! :)

  83. Ian's Gravatar Ian
    October 9, 2010 - 12:56 am | Permalink

    “””Xanadu says:
    October 8, 2010 at 8:17 PM

    Ian @ October 8, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Dear Ian from Scotland,

    I’m not sure I like being called a “hen”, dear boy.

    You have ruffled my feathers.””””

    No offence intended, nor wished. Hen, Chuck, love , pet, doll, all are used without intended offence by people, though it’s occasionally taken. Just part of the rich pattern of dialects we have in the UK. They are normally only used with friends and familiar aquaintances, and on the net, it’s easy to assume that that is the case, when in fact one is dealing with stangers.
    Now you’ve made me look like a twat, or should I say, encouraged me to make myself look like a twat. Hope you’re happy Hen, oops sorry.
    Take care genuinely no offence or disrespect intended. Ian

  84. Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
    October 9, 2010 - 12:38 am | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM
    “Alexander conquered just about all the known world without any assistance from Jeebus, and so did the Romans. ”

    If I remember correctly Alexander is the leopard with four wing upon it’s back mentioned in Daniel 7:6.

  85. 3D's Gravatar 3D
    October 8, 2010 - 11:27 pm | Permalink

    To Majid: One of the most consistent lies blatherated by “God’s Chosen” is the one that you repeated in your post to Dr. Darkmoon, 10-8-10 @ 2:15 p.m. I am afraid that it is NOT a “fact that the Christian Bible includes the JEWISH Old Testament”. The Jews claim that Abraham was the first Jew, but check this out: Abraham begat Issac; Issac begat Jacob, Jacob was re-named Israel when the Abrahamic Covenant with God was confirmed in him, (The Stairway To Heaven). Jacob had twelve sons. Each of those twelve sons became the patriarch of a distinct tribe, collectively known to history as; “The Twelve Tribes Of Israel”, or “The Children Of Israel”. The third (I believe) son of Jacob/Israel was named Judah. The name “Jew” is derived from the name of this patriarch. All of the Old Testament adventures of the “Children Of Israel” from the time of Jacob/Israel to the death of solomon, are the accounts of the experiences of ALL the “Twelve Tribes Of Israel”, only one of which was called Judah.

  86. German's Gravatar German
    October 8, 2010 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Darmoon is a complete phoney. I always knew you coudn’t trust her. Her smugness and condescending way caused red flags for me (call it female intuition, haha, I am male btw.). Yesterday I read the response she wrote to Israel Shamir after he had critizied her essay “Goodbye America” for her “rassism”. She answered:

    Dear Mr Shamir,

    …I am not happy with this “White” issue thing. Never have been. I take all your criticisms on board. My ideology is basically similar to yours. I often visit Toronto, a multicultural city. My friends there are of all nationalities. My possible sister-in-law is Indian. From Tamil Nadu. I wonder what she would think if she read my comment about multiculturalism being a “deadly weapon” against Western civilization. She would not understand. She would suspect me of being a secret racist. Which I am not.

    I genuinely do believe it’s too late to go back to the past. Ployglot, multicolored communities — maybe this is the future. White Utopias? I can’t really see them working. Well, Mr Shamir, you are a Christian, and you know that comment of St Paul’s about “seeing through a glass darkly.” That’s me. I am groping in the dark for solutions. You must understand that I am in many ways a fish out of water on theoccidentalobserv er. net. Many of the writers there do not meet with my approval. Their obsessions with race and “Whiteness” are not my obsessions. And yet, these people feel beleagured and frightened — that they’re “losing their country”, their jobs, their culture, their traditional values. Their very religion, Mr Shamir — the Christianity you hold so dear — they see it being destroyed in America by organized Jewry’s control of Hollywood, the mass media, and the porn industry which is largely in Jewish hands. So they would seem to have valid grounds for concern. There is much talk nowadays of “violent revolutions” and “military coups”. When hope dies, men get desperate…

    Almost every day I am in touch with my dear friend Jill, a Jewish painter in Florida, and so I get a different perspective from her on all these matters. However much I may rage against “organized Jewry” in my articles, Jill knows I don’t hate Jews. No way. My close friendship with her precludes any such possibility.

    What I’d like you to do, Mr Shamir, is to publish my future articles on your site in spite of your strong disagreement with me on this multicultural issue. Take the risk. And then feel free on your site to point out my various errors. You have “Shamir Readers”. Let these clever and well-informed commentators feel free to tear me to pieces if they wish. How else can we find truth and wisdom, dear Mr Shamir, unless we engage in free dialogue?

    Your sincere admirer,

    Lasha Darkmoon”

    See for yourselves here:

    http://www.israelshamir.net/shamirReaders/

    So she is a complete sell-out who secretly admires “anti-rassist” jew Shamir. And the whole “White issue” (i.e. the survival of our race) is alien to her. What next? Martin Luther King fangirl? ADL supporter?

    She should stop writing on this site!

  87. October 8, 2010 - 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I didn’t include URLs:

    Lasha’s own reference to E. Michael Jones is here: Rabbi Dresner’s Dilemma: Torah v. Ethnos

    http://www.culturewars.com/2003/rabbidresner.html

    His two books are:

    Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control

    http://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1286599942&sr=1-1

    and The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit

    http://www.culturewars.com/Reviews/RevolutionaryReviews.html

  88. Concrete man's Gravatar Concrete man
    October 8, 2010 - 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Thank you to Lasha (her real name? I think not!) for her devastating research and analysis.

    By the way, I came across this not unrelated info, which I am sure TOO readers are already familiar with:

    Propaganda by Edward Bernays
    THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
    http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119695.pdf

    Edward Louis Bernays (November 22, 1891 – March 9, 1995), was an American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda along with Ivy Lee, referred to in his obituary as “the father of public relations”.[1] Combining the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Dr. Sigmund Freud, Bernays was one of the first to attempt to manipulate public opinion using the subconscious.
    Born 1891 in Vienna to Jewish parents, Bernays was a double nephew of psychoanalysis pioneer Sigmund Freud. His father was Ely Bernays, brother of Freud’s wife Martha Bernays. His mother was Freud’s sister, Anna.[3] In 1892 his family moved to New York City, where he attended DeWitt Clinton High School.[4] In 1912 he graduated from Cornell University with a degree in agriculture, but chose journalism as his first career. He married Doris E. Fleischman in 1922.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

  89. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Ian @ October 8, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Dear Ian from Scotland,

    I’m not sure I like being called a “hen”, dear boy.

    You have ruffled my feathers.

  90. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Donald E. Pauly @ October 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM

    I am a great admirer of Israel Shamir. He writes with sincerity in a style that I find attractive as well as easily comprehensible. He combines wit with originality. He is also a poet and a true Christian.

    There is one thing he says, however, that I cannot agree with.

    This is that Mossad could not have had a hand in 9-11 because they were far too incompetent to mount such an operation.

    All I can say about this is: if a man sitting in a cave in the Tora Bora mountains, with the help of nineteen Arabs with boxcutters, can bring the American Empire to its knees in a single morning, then surely Mossad wouldn’t have found it too difficult to succeed in carrying out such an operation — with a little help from their neocon buddies in the United States.

    Please note that I am NOT saying Mossad and the neocons did it. I keep an open mind on this question. All I’m saying is that Mossad and the neocons, working as a team, would have found 9-11 a piece of cake compared to the semi-mythical Al Qaeda with their neolithic technology.

  91. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Majid @ October 8, 2010 at 2:15 PM

    Majid,

    Thanks you for your kind words and perceptive comments.

    Briefly, I think it was a bad idea to combine the Old Testament and New Testament into the Bible. This was the heretic Marcion’s view. I have to agree with him.

    The Old Testament, however, contains many books and passages which are incomparably beautiful from a literary/poetic point of view: such as “The Book of Ecclesiastes” (my favorite) and “The Song of Solomon.”

    As for profundity, it is hard to beat “The Book of Job.” This deals with the problem of pain. Jung even devoted a whole book discussing it called “Answer to Job.”

    It is hard, moreover, to see how the Catholic Church could have got on without the “Psalms of David” which form the basis of the Divine Office — the very bedrock of the seven religious services of the day which are still celebrated in all monasteries throughout Christendom. (I refer to Matins, Lauds, Prime, Terce, Sext, None, Vespers and Compline — also known as the Liturgy of Hours.

    I dislike the term “Judeo-Christian”. This is an oxymoron. I think Christianity has more in common with Islam than it could possibly have with Judaism — which is not a religion at all but a strategy for survival.

    It is with deep regret that I see Christians and Muslims at war with each other. In my opinion, they should join forces and fight the common Enemy.

    Strength lies in unity, not in division.

  92. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 8, 2010 - 7:18 pm | Permalink

    me: “In ancient Rome and Greece you could leave a newborn to die of exposure and there would be no penalty-
    in a christian civilzation – a parent might do this, but barring corruption , they would hung”

    The 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade are proof of your hypocrisy.

    me: “did/do men molest boys in Christian civilizations – yes because man is man- corrupt –
    but the difference- the big difference – is that we condemn that behavior, while the pagans condoned it.”

    Yes, as I said, you hypocrites usually don’t do it openly.

    me: “you have to dense to not realize there is a reason the Jews and left attack the church… whether you like it or not you are useful idiot on their side, not on ours.”

    Even if that were true, being a useful idiot has got to be better than being a completely useless idiot like you, me. :-)

  93. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Edmund Connelly @ October 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM

    I am a great admirer of E. Michael Jones. I ordered these two books of his from Amazon. They arrived about a month ago but remain unread. I barely have time to breathe nowadays. One of the books is Libido Dominandi, a fat tome running to 660 pages, subtitled ‘Sexual Liberation and Political Control’. The other book is Degenerate Moderns, subtitled ‘Modernity as Rationalized Sexual Misbehavior’ (a rather amusing subtitle in my unsolicited opinion).

    Jones has a good, gossipy chapter on Papa Sigmund in this book which I was reading in the bath the other day. It’s a bit soggy now. (It fell in the water). I think the essay that has impressed me most on Jones’s website was his long one, ‘Rabbi Dresner’s Dilemma’ (to which I have provided a link several times). This is worth reading and rereading. It made me see that my own essay ‘Sex and the Jews’ was a bit unbalanced. It gave only one side of the picture: the bad side. There is another side of Jewish sexuality which I completely failed to address owing to lack of space, and this is about the ascetical and puritanical Jew. Not all Jews are Dionysian or given to uninhibited sexuality — the unfortunate impression I may have given some people. Some Jews are Apollonian and do their best to put a curb on their passions.

    Like the Christian saints of the old days, they practise “custody of the eye”. So old-fashioned nowadays. But that’s the whole point: if it’s not old-fashioned, it’s probably newfangled rubbish. Custody of the eye is important. It’s a survival technique.

    Jones distinguishes between two types of Jew: the Rabbi Dresner Jew (good, believing in restraint) and the Woody Allen Jew (depraved, given to unrestraint). According to Rabbi Dresner, Jews lived relatively decent lives in their shtetls of Eastern Europe, but once they came to America they became horribly corrupted. They clapped their eyes on all these gorgeous blue-eyed blondes and life was all downhill for them after that! Restraint went out of the window. So the corrupter of mankind was himself hopelessly corrupted. The victimizer of the goyim is himself a victim of the same vices he tries to inculcate in others. He transmits to others the virus in his own blood.

    It’s the old, old story: the Jew as victim — but a victim now become oppressor.

  94. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 6:07 pm | Permalink

    let’s recall that in the Christian civilization of today we still have all those things
    Total denial of reality. If those things occurred in Christian civilizations it was punished, frowned upon,

    In ancient Rome and Greece you could leave a newborn to die of exposure and there would be no penalty-
    in a christian civilzation – a parent might do this, but barring corruption , they would hung

    did/do men molest boys in Christian civilizations – yes because man is man- corrupt –
    but the difference- the big difference – is that we condemn that behavior, while the pagans condoned it.

    I am not surprised you long for a return to those days.

    and, again of course, you go out of your way to insult the very fabric of Western civlization (whether you like it or not, it is the fabric)

    you have to dense to not realize there is a reason the Jews and left attack the church… whether you like it or not you are useful idiot on their side, not on ours.

    you are not a friend of Western civlization, or western people.

  95. Patrick's Gravatar Patrick
    October 8, 2010 - 5:40 pm | Permalink

    @Edmund

    Can you link us to the Michael Jones article you mentioned?

  96. October 8, 2010 - 5:05 pm | Permalink

    This comment is probably a little late, but when I read Dr. Darkmoon’s excellent piece, I was amazed at the timing, for I had just read E. Michael Jones’ latest essay in his “Culture Wars” magazine (Sept.) He writes at length about the way sexuality was used as a weapon against the Catholic Church and its followers. As with KMAC, he talks about Wilhelm Reich.

    Then, like Darkmoon, he discusses modern Europe’s embrace of “intergenerational sex.” He uses quotes from a book by Klaus Rainer Rohl, ex-husband of RAF terrorist Ulrike Meinhof. It’s pretty sick stuff. In the middle of it all is Tribesman Daniel Cohn-Bendit, still alive and sowing evil.

    Lasha, since you referenced one Jones article, I wonder if you subscribe to “Culture Wars” and have read this latest story. Too bad Jones waits a few years to put these things on the Net.

    Of course, another book to read on this subject comes from Jones himself:

    “Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control”

    Finally, as I always do, I highly recommend Jones $48 book “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit: And Its Impact on World History.” My review of it appears in the Summer 2010 Occidental Quarterly.

    Edmund

  97. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 8, 2010 - 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Lasha: “Honestly, White Angel, in a matriarchal society you wouldn’t stand a chance. Your execution would be ordered almost instantaneously. I’d be the only one to urge clemency on compassionate grounds!”

    :-) If so, that alone might make it worth the price.

    Lasha: “CAPTION: Freud: “Sexual morality … is contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life.”

    Gentle Lasha, I think I make no mistake in saying the ellipsis is very important here, and it’s omitted in your most recent caption. There’s a big difference between saying that the American definition of sexual morality in 1915 is contemptible and saying that all sexual morality is contemptible, which is what the edited quote in your latest article appears unqualifiedly to have Freud saying.

    TGD: “The great civilizations of antiquity, Greece and Rome, did not suffer from sexual hangups or suppressed sexuality.”

    It is also worth pointing out that the supposed unifying power of the Christ myth for Whites is shown by those examples to be absolutely unnecessary for White civilizations to succeed. Alexander conquered just about all the known world without any assistance from Jeebus, and so did the Romans. And before we hear again the rabbi’s devotees lament the “sodomy and sadism” in those societies, or “incest, infanticide, homosexuality normal, man boy love”, let’s recall that in the Christian civilization of today we still have all those things, and have always had them, only under far more hypocritical terms.

  98. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 3:32 pm | Permalink

    TGD – does your ‘free thought’ magazine publish stats on atheist child molesters or do you somehow think your believe in nothing makes you morally superior?

  99. October 8, 2010 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Professor Darkmoon asked me to post the following letter to her. Israel Shamir posted her above essay to his list at shamireaders-owner@yahoogroups.com
    ========
    Professor Darkmoon:

    Professor Shamir just sent me your essay at
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-Sex-Plague.html
    which I read with great interest. He reminds me of a dog that we used
    to have on the farm back in Iowa. He was a good dog but he just
    wouldn’t stay home. Professor Shamir once made Aliyah but he won’t
    stay home either.

    Jews do not play well with others. By now you should realize that
    Zionism is the ONLY and FINAL solution to the Jewish Question. It is
    impossible to change the racial nature of the Jew. A good Jew is one
    who has made Aliyah and STAYS in Israel.

    When our government and society collapses, the Jews will take their
    rightful blame for it. This time, there may be a real holocau$t with
    14 million of them dead instead of the mythical six million. DNA will
    spot every single one of them. Israel will not last a week when the
    Sand Negroes realize that the U.S. is a corpse. Nuclear weapons are
    not well suited for close in defense.

    Let Israel be Gathered! THIS year in Jerusalem!

    Donald E. Pauly
    Zionist Rastafarian

  100. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Historysbunkbunkbunk @ October 7, 2010 at 9:44 PM

    History,

    Many thanks for the useful information.
    Glad to see you are still posting here!
    Keep well,
    Xanadu.

  101. Majid's Gravatar Majid
    October 8, 2010 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Dear Dr Darkmoon,

    I have just recently come across some of your interesting articles published on The Occidental Observer.

    I know you might be receiving many e-mails and letters regarding your views, so I’ll try to keep this one as short as possible.

    In your recent article titled Sex Plague, you have stated the following:

    “Jewish devotees of psychoanalysis typically saw it, first and foremost, as a blow against Christian sexual mores; hence, as a sneak attack on Christianity itself. For Jews, psychoanalysis placed Western culture on the couch. It was an assertion of Jewish contempt for Christian culture—the culture of the outgroup now destined for the dustbin of history. ”

    While you may or may not be Christian yourself (I’ll leave that to you to confirm only if you wish), I am interested in learning about your view on the fact that the Christian Bible (all versions that I am aware of) includes the Jewish Old Testament and which comprises of many verses related to Jewish behaviour and Jewish supremacy.

    I am neither a biblical scholar nor specialised in the field, but up to my knowledge, many of those verses include extreme acts of violence (permissible against Gentiles) and sexual deviations like incest (without any condemnation for such acts in the same verses or same chapters).

    While one can – by observation – see differences between Jewish and Christian communities and individuals generally, how is it possible however to tell the difference from an ideological and educational standpoint (on the subjects that you have written about) when both books (Old and New Testament) and their teachings are supposed to be the overall teachings of the Christian Bible (but not necessarily the teachings of Christ himself, in my opinion)?

    I have met a few Christians who disassociate themselves from the Old Testament and only acknowledge the New Testament.

    What is your view on the above?

    Thank you for your time in advance,

    Majid

  102. gene's Gravatar gene
    October 8, 2010 - 1:37 pm | Permalink

    You have become my favorite commentator as of late. I couldn’t agree with your articles more. There is a deep longing and sadness inherent in your prose. It is…..artful.

  103. Gary Corseri's Gravatar Gary Corseri
    October 8, 2010 - 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Another fine article.

    Botticelli vs Sprinkle! What a thought!

    I like the way you bring the Arts into your socio-political-economic analyses.

    We are in an age similar to Nazi Germany in the 20s and early 30s… and they turned to Hitler and the brownshirts to “clean things up.” Here, too, we shall turn to such.

    Not all Jews are insane and monstrous, of course; I venture to say that the majority are decent people–just as the majority of Buddhists or Christians or Muslims are decent people. Unfortunately, many in the Jewish community have been corrupted by that “chosen people” credo. I think it is always important to keep the distinction between Zionists and Jews in the public mind. After all, not all Christians are snake-handlers and Bible-thumpers… so we need to be careful not to blur the lines, not to stereotype. Those who seek power simply to advance their own egos, or for the glory of their particular tribe (and to hell with all others!), they are the real miscreants and offenders–“abominations,” if you will.

    I agree with you… dark days to come: Yeatsian, Orwellian, Huxleyan, etc.

    Gary Corseri

  104. Ian's Gravatar Ian
    October 8, 2010 - 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Hi, Dr Lasha, I am Ian McKenzie from Scotland. I’m a nearly 60 year old ordinary person, one of the ugly unwashed masses. I have read and learned and read and read about Israel, about Rachel Corrie, about quotes by Goldamier and Moshe Dian, and Sharon, Netanyahoo etc. “the correct spelling of their names is unimportant”. I read your latest article about pornography and the Jews, and that awful comedienne “Silverman ?” springs to mind. They own our Banks and our Governments and our Newspapers and TV. They own our entertainment industry, and more, and like they did to poor Rachel, they could kill us with impunity. They Attacked the Mavi Marmara once and the Palestinian people just about every day since. There is nothing I could say that wouldn’t leave me open to accusations of anti-semitism, or incitement to something, or supporting something I’m not supposed to support.
    Keep posting your articles Hen’, especially the ones with woman shoving banknotes up themselves, as they grab peoples attention, and if it makes them read some more, then it’s worth it. Take Care I like your writing and your poems. good luck, ian. ps Hen is a term of endearment in Scotland.

  105. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

    “Freethought”
    it’s been my experience that anyone who claims to be a ‘free thinker’ or ‘rational’ (ayn rand, for example) is anything but. Atheists claim to be ‘rational’ and reason based, but they are most fanatical, narrow minded, myopic irrational people I know.

    don’t help the Jewish elite an others by further trying to destroy what is left.

    Sadly enough – the instances of adults in positions of authority taking advatage of children is prevelant in ALL sectors of society – in fact public schools are just as bad if not worse – but you choose to single out the relgiious – then claiming they are ‘delusional’ … then , you turn around and say we are ‘hung up’ because we condemn it. and we should really behave like pagans, what with incest, infanticide, homosexuality normal, man boy love

    Yep, the another ‘free thinker’ all right.

  106. ?'s Gravatar ?
    October 8, 2010 - 11:08 am | Permalink

    the Frankfurt School agenda of producing a “culture of pessimism” designed to promote impotent anger and despair

    Hey, that sounds like AltRight!

  107. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    October 8, 2010 - 10:30 am | Permalink

    “those who believe that they are called by God to be his vicar are delusional to begin with.”

    You don’t want to confuse correlation with causality. All bureaucracies are prone to corruption, but that doesn’t mean that the ideologies on which they were founded are always corrupt. It’s more of a comment on the corruptibility of human nature.

    “The great civilizations of antiquity, Greece and Rome, did not suffer from sexual hangups or suppressed sexuality.”

    Of course not. In the absence of moral consensus, they merely devolved to a state of corruption in which they were bursting at the seams with sodomy and sadism.

  108. TGD's Gravatar TGD
    October 8, 2010 - 9:57 am | Permalink

    For those of you who maintain that Christian morality is the antidote to Jewish sexual and moral depravity, I invite you to take a look at a small sampling of the black collar crime report, which is published every month in Freethought Today, an atheist publication. These reports are well documented.

    It should be noted that Christian clergy are not the only sexual and moral miscreants. The clergy and clerical officials of the other major religions are also exposed, which leads me to believe that those who believe that they are called by God to be his vicar are delusional to begin with.

    What we consider sexual depravity is child’s play compared to the sexual practices of our closest relatives, the bonobos or pygmy chimps. The great civilizations of antiquity, Greece and Rome, did not suffer from sexual hangups or suppressed sexuality.

  109. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 9:13 am | Permalink

    my dear Xanadu, something a little bit more uplifting please! you’re the one who always warns us about a culture of pessimistic :)

  110. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 7:22 am | Permalink

    me says: October 7, 2010 at 3:35 PM

    Dr. Darkmoon—great article and insights as always. I just wish there was some hope…is there?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Here’s your answer:

    Résumé, by Dorothy Parker

    Razors pain you,
    Rivers are damp,
    Acids stain you,
    Drugs cause cramp,
    Guns ain’t lawful,
    Nooses give,
    Gas smells awful—
    You might as well live.

  111. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 8, 2010 - 7:18 am | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel @ October 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM

    Lasha: “Will someone please help by supplying a reliable source for the quote? Perhaps Admin can help…?”

    The first part of your quote omits an important qualifier:

    As was the case with some of Freud’s close associates described above, Freud viewed himself as a sexual reformer against this most Western of cultural practices, the suppression of sexuality. Freud wrote in 1915: “Sexual morality—as society, in its extreme form, the American, defines it—seems to me very contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life.” (in Gay 1988, 143). As Gay (1988, 149) notes, it was an ideology which “was deeply subversive for his time.”

    The second part of the quote is cited by KMD on page 106 of CoC.

    (Quote provided, Mannoni 1971, 168)

    All in all, not very good scholarly form, you naughty girl. I’m very disappointed in you. :)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ XANADU/LASHA answers:

    White Angel in cracking form as usual, managing to dispense wisdom and demolish the gentler sex at the same time. Honestly, White Angel, in a matriarchal society you wouldn’t stand a chance. Your execution would be ordered almost instantaneously. I’d be the only one to urge clemency on compassionate grounds! :)

    Joking aside, many thanks for supplying a reliable source for the second and far more important quote, “If only Americans knew, we are bringing them the plague!”

    I can now refer your excellent post to my fussy correspondent.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In regard to your comment that I had omitted an “important qualifier” from my first quote—i.e., the parenthesis “as society, in its extreme form, the American, defines it”—you fail to understand that not all of us would ascribe equal importance to this “important qualifier.”

    I was perfectly aware of the qualifier but omitted it deliberately. You see, I am a writer who believes above all in simplicity and clarity: broad brush strokes. Especially for captions. A caption must be pithy and to the point and not weighed down with academic paraphernalia. Such tangential trivia are for footnotes, not for captions which must capture the reader’s attention right away.

    If you look at this passage in my previous article (“Goodbye, America!”, Part 2), you will see that I was aware of the qualifier. I quoted this in the text but deliberately omitted it from the picture caption that immediately followed.

    The relevant passage runs:

    “A key component of the culture of despair and nihilism was sex. Western mores on sexuality — mores that had the effect of building strong families and providing a safe, loving environment for children — became a prime target of these revolutionaries. Solace and salvation henceforth lay in a hedonistic creed of sexuality.

    It was Freud who said, “Sexual morality — as society in its extreme form, the American, defines it — is contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life.” (See here.) Other Jewish intellectuals — notably Herbert Marcuse and Wilhelm Reich along with a phalanx of supporters in the media and the universities — marched in lockstep behind Papa Sigmund and spread the message to the masses: salvation through sex.

    PICTURE: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon2-14.png

    CAPTION: Freud: “Sexual morality … is contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life.”

    See here:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-GoodbyeII.html

  112. October 8, 2010 - 6:56 am | Permalink

    ME said:

    “it always seems to me the more ‘north european’ the more ‘nordic’ a country or people the more they have to sacrifice themselves to satisfy any suspicion that they might have even a hint of healthy cultural DNA – which is ‘dangerous’ to the jewish agenda.”

    Evola used them to demonstrate his thesis of spiritual vs. physical race; the Nordics already in the 30s were the purest physical specimens of the Aryan race, but the most eager to betray it. “Cultural DNA” might stand in for ‘spiritual race.’

  113. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    October 8, 2010 - 5:01 am | Permalink

    RussiaToday: Racist birth control? Claims Israel culling Ethiopian Jews

    A feminist movement has accused the Israeli government of adopting a racist policy towards the country’s Ethiopian Jews. Activists believe black women are deliberately being given a controversial contraceptive, to bring about a drop in the population – a claim the government denies. Thousands of Ethiopians have immigrated to Israel since the 1980s, but their Jewish heritage has been questioned, while their social status continues to suffer.

  114. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 4:33 am | Permalink

    Arson was suspected
    Known as “jewish lightening’ in New York – in the old days of ‘hate’ Jews and jewish neigborhoods were redlined by insurance companies who refused to insure them.
    Now they are forced to. And we pay

  115. me's Gravatar me
    October 8, 2010 - 4:30 am | Permalink

    “Tracey Emin” was also part non-british -(turk I think) and might have an ‘outsider’ hostility (not to say everyone automatically does – but remember Lasha’s quote in the “plot against art” – promote the worst gentiles- just like the bolshiviks did – promote the people with hostility towards the culture and people – the criminals, the ostracized child molester, etc.

    ………………….
    On another note – it is amazing that nearly throughout all of western history – sexual decadence has meant declining society -in fact a society soon to be taken over –

    Edmund Burke summed it up “Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their appetites; in proportion as their love of … [thus] where licentiousness begins, liberty ends

    only in our age is it promoted as ‘freedom’ and people opposed as ‘bigots’.

  116. Historysbunkbunkbunk's Gravatar Historysbunkbunkbunk
    October 7, 2010 - 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Hiya Lasha,

    This may be what you are looking for…

    The Culture of Critique — pg. 110

    We have seen that a common component of Jewish intellectual activity since the Enlightenment has been to criticize gentile culture. Freud’s ideas have often been labeled as subversive. Indeed, “[Freud] was convinced that it was in the very nature of psychoanalytic doctrine to appear shocking and subversive. On board ship to America he did not feel that he was bringing that country a new panacea. With his typically dry wit he told his traveling companions, ‘We are bringing them the plague’ ” (Mannoni 1971, 168).

    Enjoyed your essay. On target again. Thanks.

  117. October 7, 2010 - 8:32 pm | Permalink

    @ I am unable to find the second quote there —  “If only Americans knew, we are bringing them the plague!”

    I have hit that anecdote several times in the writings of, IIRC, Szasz, Masson, Breger and others. It was a rather humorous remark by Freud when (again, IIRC) psychoanalysis was imported across the Atlantic through American psychiatrist Stanley Hall, who invited Freud to the United States. Clark University stupidly awarded Freud the title of doctor honoris causa in 1909.

    This was the importation of the “plague” (which reminds me the film Nosferatu when a ship with dead people aboard carrying infected rats reaches the shores of a German town) into North America.

  118. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 7, 2010 - 8:13 pm | Permalink

    If I remember my readings about Freud correctly, his most famous cases were fellow Jews.

  119. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 7, 2010 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Lasha: “Will someone please help by supplying a reliable source for the quote? Perhaps Admin can help…?”

    The first part of your quote omits an important qualifier:

    As was the case with some of Freud’s close associates described above, Freud viewed himself as a sexual reformer against this most Western of cultural practices, the suppression of sexuality. Freud wrote in 1915: “Sexual morality—as society, in its extreme form, the American, defines it—seems to me very contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life” (in Gay 1988, 143). As Gay (1988, 149) notes, it was an ideology which “was deeply subversive for his time.”

    The second part of the quote is cited by KMD on page 106 of CoC.

    We have seen that a common component of Jewish intellectual activity since the Enlightenment has been to criticize gentile culture. Freud’s ideas have often been labeled as subversive. Indeed, “[Freud] was convinced that it was in the very nature of psychoanalytic doctrine to appear shocking and subversive. On board ship to America he did not feel that he was bringing that country a new
    panacea. With his typically dry wit he told his traveling companions, ‘We are bringing them the plague’” (Mannoni 1971, 168).

    All in all, not very good scholarly form, you naughty girl. I’m very disappointed in you. :-(

  120. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 7, 2010 - 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Lasha’s article has got me in a funk. I was just thinking the other day that the only other people viewed with as much contempt by modern society as us “racists” are child molesters.

    Now they’re being promoted up the social ladder, and I have to admit….it’s feelin’ kinda lonely down here.

  121. Xanadu's Gravatar Xanadu
    October 7, 2010 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

    “As usual, there is no claim that all Jews have these attitudes. And certainly many non-Jews have been involved whether motivated by fame, fortune, or psychosis. Darkmoon mentions Tracey Emin, Hannah Wilke, and Karen Finley.

    Actually, Hannah Wilke was Jewish. The other two, especially Tracey Emin, were shabbat goys. Emin was completely dependent on her maga-rich Jewish patron Charles Saatchi, jumping through hoops to please her artistically clueless boss.

    Most of the art produced by these artists people remained unsold. The public had no wish to own it. So it was stored in art galleries or warehouses where an inflated price was put on objects almost universally despised by the public.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Tracey Emin’s Tent (“Everyone I have Ever Slept With”) was destroyed in a mysterious fire in May 2004, along with many other “precious” works of art kept in a storage warehouse in London. Mr Saatchi collected untold millions in insurance claims — and Emin received a huge payout for her tatty tent for which not a single buyer could hitherto be found.

    Arson was suspected, but ascribed to burglars. Naturally Mr Saatchi was mortified. “Many of these pieces are great personal favourites and irreplaceable in British Art,” he moaned.

    Tracey Emin exhibited exceptional fortitude and said she would make no attempt to recreate her destroyed tent. Inspiration came only once, she sighed. “I’m upset,” she added, “but I’m also upset about those whose wedding got bombed [in Iraq], and people being dug out from mud in the Dominican Republic.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momart#The_2004_warehouse_fire

  122. October 7, 2010 - 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Der weiße said…

    @ “Chechar: Breggin, Szasz, and Masson are all Jews. What do you make of this fact? How do you reconcile it with the “Whites-as-passive-victims-of-Jewish-evolutionary-strategizing” theory that seems in favor here? Don’t you find it curious that the same people who distill the poison offer the antidote?

    Yes. Peter Breggin too. I’ve read two of Breggin’s books and even subscribed to his journal, Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry. I’ve thought much about it. And after Swiss psychologist Alice Miller passed away earlier this year I received a shock. It turned out that “Alice Miller” is not her real name! She was Jewish and spend some time in a Polish ghetto during WW2. Thanks to the name changing she saved her skin. Miller had been my big mentor in deep psychology (even today I made a minor edit in the Wikipedia article on her). Like Szasz and Masson, Miller broke away from Freud’s legacy and the psychoanalysts hated her for her vehement apostasy.

    What do I make of this fact? Obviously there are very decent Jews in the world. At Mangan’s I recently defended another decent Jew, Stefan Zweig.

    Alice Miller, Breggin, Szasz, Masson… all of them helped immensely to debunk Freud in my mind, yes. But I still believe that there’s a clash between all ethnic groups going on around the globe. Something deeper than the outward civilizations is indeed clashing, like plate tectonics, miles beneath the ocean floor. Samuel Huntington’s analysis is epidermal. The tragedy is that the Jewish plate is now clashing against the Aryan one—the latter plate is being subducted under the Jewish plate, into the lava—in what’s about to produce a major quake.

    Even Hitler recognized that he had met quite a few Jews who weren’t weakening the Aryan culture. I would recommend to all of the readers of this blog Toward a White Republic by Michael O’Meara, published a month ago by Counter-Currents. On pages 89ff of his book O’Meara blames other factors for Western degeneration besides the Jewish influence. He also wrote about “the vulgar anti-Semitism often found in white nationalist ranks—the sort that thinks everything wrong with white society is attributable solely to the omnipotent Jews.”

    Readers of the Darkmoon’s “Sex Plague” ought also become familiar with the Jewish debunkers of psychoanalysis if their critique of Freud and his “plague” is to be considered objective.

    @ And by all means, let’s see your debunking of Freud.

    I think I’ll have to write directly to Dr. MacDonald to check and see if I may submit a piece. If by chance one of the TOO editors reads this post and is interested, please contact me.

  123. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 7, 2010 - 4:41 pm | Permalink

    A Catholic’s take on Freud’s failings in the case of the seduction theory, and what the Catholic Church should learn from Freud:

    http://ncronline.org/blogs/young-voices/what-church-could-learn-freud

  124. js's Gravatar js
    October 7, 2010 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Another wonderful article by “Lasha”.

  125. me's Gravatar me
    October 7, 2010 - 3:43 pm | Permalink

    it always seems to me the more ‘north european’ the more ‘nordic’ a country or people the more they have to sacrifice themselves to satisfy any suspicion that they might have even a hint of healthy cultural DNA – which is ‘dangerous’ to the jewish agenda.

  126. me's Gravatar me
    October 7, 2010 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    felix peter hitchens had the same thoughts:
    http://www.hvk.org/articles/1103/75.html

    Dr. darkmoon- great article and insights as always. I just wish there was some hope… is there?

  127. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    October 7, 2010 - 3:33 pm | Permalink

    @ Chechar

    Breggin, Szasz, and Masson are all Jews. What do you make of this fact? How do you reconcile it with the “Whites-as-passive-victims-of-Jewish-evolutionary-strategizing” theory that seems in favor here? Don’t you find it curious that the same people who distill the poison offer the antidote?

    And by all means, let’s see your debunking of Freud. :-)

  128. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    October 7, 2010 - 3:23 pm | Permalink

    “Of course the upside of this was that back in college, if you were friends with one of these Jewishess, she would do things with/for you no self-respecting Christian girl would.”

    “Upside?” And there-in lies the problem. Those sexual acts required two like-minded consenting people, not just one consenting jewish girl.

    Sorry for being sanctimonious. Jews are, on the whole, manipulative…they use our worst instincts against us, they use our best instincts against us, they use all of our instincts against us. There’s been no jewish agenda that’s succeeded without Christian collusion.

  129. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    October 7, 2010 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    As Christianity becomes increasingly impotent (or unwilling) to resist the further degradation of our country and it’s culture, I think it is forseeable that many Christians may join with the Muslims or actually become Muslims. THEY at least offer an aggressive and vigorous response to the corruption of our society, which the feminized, philo-semitic Christian clergy now do not.

    THEY are always, at least, willing to say who it is behind our cultural degradation, the trashing of our educational system and the waste of our nation’s wealth through the war on terror.

    THEY at least believe in something. They don’t neurotically pursue pleasure to the exclusion of life itself; and they see that wealth and power are means to an end, not ends in themselves.

    (BTW, the sluttiest people I have ever known were Jewish. It wasn’t that they were just horny. It was that they had NO boundaries whatever. Of course the upside of this was that back in college, if you were friends with one of these Jewishess, she would do things with/for you no self-respecting Christian girl would.)

  130. Xanadu (aka Lasha Darkmoon)'s Gravatar Xanadu (aka Lasha Darkmoon)
    October 7, 2010 - 2:11 pm | Permalink

    “Sexual morality is contemptible. I advocate an incomparably freer sexual life….If only Americans knew, we are bringing them the plague!”

    Two correspondents have written to me complaining that the above Freud quotation is inadequately sourced. I had given as my source Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique (Chapter 4). This is where I honestly believed I had first come across the quotation.

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap4.pdf

    I replied to my correspondent:

    “This is a conflation of two separate quotes made on two separate occasions. Hence the dots between the two quotes. The first quote occurs on p. 118 of The Culture of Critique (Chapter 4). I am unable to find the second quote there — “If only Americans knew, we are bringing them the plague!” — so maybe it comes from somewhere else in the book.

    I think it is found originally in Gay’s biography of Freud, “A Godless Jew”, though I can’t be sure about this. If you check the links below, you will find that this is apparently a pretty well-known quote.

    [1] http://k8harper.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/book-rview-by-peter-kramer-sigmund-freud-james-jackson-putnam-and-the-purpose-of-american-psychology/

    [2] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574330991380910578.html

    My correspondent then indicated that this was not good enough, for a quote (he suggested) can gain circulation without being authentic.

    Will someone please help by supplying a reliable source for the quote? Perhaps Admin can help…?

  131. dan neil's Gravatar dan neil
    October 7, 2010 - 2:08 pm | Permalink

    The back that is being turned by religious leaders is a sham and a crime, we are not one we will never be one. Jews have taken this course and it will backfire at some point soon.
    I think with the loss of the US and the Constitution it will create a new white colony or country that we can start over with this knowledge.
    I also beleive it will be in the next 20 years that we will have a strong revolt and win or lose how it starts and why it was started will fall on there backs.

  132. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    October 7, 2010 - 11:22 am | Permalink

    You can find photographs of almost every major American politician, and even a Roman Catholic Pope or two worshipping at the “Wailing Wall”, the still existing structure of the ancient Jews’ Temple in Jerusalem.

    I wonder if any of these so-called Christian politicians, including the Pope, realize that they are worshipping at the structure that got the first Christian martyr Stephen—killed.

    According to Acts 6 & 7, Stephen told the Jews that the Temple wasn’t necessary.

    48″However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men. As the prophet says:
    49″ ‘Heaven is my throne,
    and the earth is my footstool.
    What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord.
    Or where will my resting place be?
    50Has not my hand made all these things?’[l]

    51″You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 52Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him…

    For this the Jews stoned Stephen to death.

  133. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    October 7, 2010 - 11:21 am | Permalink

    Chechar, your offer of an article debunking Freud would be a good followup article to Darkmoon’s excellent piece. Yes, we’re interested.

  134. October 7, 2010 - 10:58 am | Permalink

    Freud is the paradigmatic case of a Jewish movement with a gentile face (Ernest Jones) for the public.

    Most of the biographies about Freud are hagiographies. But in Freud: Darkness in the Midst of Vision the analyst Louis Breger recounts many juicy anecdotes about the founder of psychoanalysis. I’ll mention only one of them. Oliver was sixteen when he asked his dad Freud advice about masturbation. The teenager hoped that Freud himself would free him from guilt. Freud did the opposite: he warned not to masturbate. (Also, Freud didn’t tell his own children how babies came into the world. He sent them to the family doctor for an explanation.)

    From the TOO article:

    @ “Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. The child touches all parts of their father’s body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same.”

    The advice coming from the German government itself is obviously a colossal, culture-destroying aberration. But it must be understood that in Freud’s own times the opposite aberration was fashionable: the psychiatric label “masturbatory insanity”, the ADD of the 19th century, with the accompanying tortures for the poor children who masturbated (there was no Ritalin then) according to the psychiatric procedures of Freud’s day. It was precisely in Germany where some children who masturbated were most severely tortured, inspired by the bestseller pamphlets of Moritz Schreber (1808-1861) on childrearing. (As always, it looks that the Germans love 180-degree turns with little Aristotelian golden mean between them…)

    @ Psychoanalysis, “the most egregious pseudo-science ever invented.”

    I wonder if readers of OO are familiar with the work of Jeffrey Masson on Freud and psychoanalysis. Yes: Masson is a Jew but like Tom Szasz he has written several books: the most devastating exposé of psychoanalysis I have ever read.

    I could translate to English one of my articles debunking Freud for TOO. Anyone interested?

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