This is Assimilation?
Asian immigrants are frequently referred to as “model minorities” because they generally succeed educationally and occupationally, without exhibiting the social pathologies rampant among America’s Black and Hispanic underclasses. Many HBD (Human Biodiversity) bloggers even use an awkward acronym, NAMs (non-Asian minorities), to differentiate between the Asians and the non-White underclass.
But success and assimilation are two very different things. In fact, the non-White immigrants who succeed are ultimately more threatening to our long-term survival than the ones who come here and fail, since they exploit our Western meritocratic tradition to obtain positions of influence through merit, then exploit their positions of power to promote their group interests. One classic example of this is in action would be WASP Bill Gates’ Slate Magazine, where the gifted Jewish journalist Michael Kinsley turned over the reins to the banal and transparently partisan Jacob Weisberg.
Jacob Weisberg is the quintessential beneficiary of Jewish ethnic nepotism, and Jews are the quintessential nepotists, but Asians also look out for their own. Increasingly, they’re perceiving themselves not as Chinese, Japanese, or Vietnamese, but as Asian.
The popular hip-hop band, Far East Movement, is a good example of this trend in action. It’s comprised of a team of Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Filipino musicians united in super-national racial solidarity.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY
Their embrace of America’s anti-White ghetto culture and meritocracy at the same time seems contradictory, but there’s no consolation prize for ethnic groups that remain logically consistent while being dispossessed. Similarly, Jews don’t see the disconnect with their being the wealthiest and most powerful people on Earth and their being perpetual victims. As Joe Sobran eloquently put it, “A hypocritical etiquette forces us to pretend that the Jews are powerless victims; and if you don’t respect their victimhood, they’ll destroy you.” In this case, Asians expect White Americans to perceive them as another oppressed “people of color”…while we’re training them as our job replacements.
They're smart...but they're still not Americans.
It’s not their audacity or hypocrisy that’s astonishing, but our insatiable appetite for self-destruction. If we invite them here, invite them to take what they can get, and invite them to found themselves an NAAAP to work against our interests, then who are they to stop themselves from diving into the feast? If we’re willing to build up the best schools in the world, then invite them to replace our own kids at them, who are they to stop themselves from enrolling? And if we’re willing to mortgage our future to them, who are they to pass on the offer?
While half-measures like defeating the latest attempt at amnesty or rolling back Affirmative Action should have our support, there’s no substitute for restoring our confidence as a people. Parroting platitudes about rewarding “merit” and favoring “legal” invaders may serve as useful proxies in our competition with Blacks and Hispanics, but they pit us against market-dominant “minorities” and other foreign elites who are plenty smart and have their papers in order. Auctioning off our national inheritance to the smartest people the entire world has to offer is as asinine as raising the smartest children in town instead of your own. If we don’t hurry up and muster the confidence to defend our birthright, this entire country will end up “too Asian“.
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Matt Parrott is the Executive Director of Hoosier Nation, Indiana’s leading traditional conservative advocacy group.
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Well said, Matt. White America is so out of touch with racial reality, that these Third World invaders, who look at us as being a silly ship-of-fools, must be ecstatic at their temporary good fortune.
Thanks for bringing this important issue up. Some of the HDB’ers drool over asians, as if IQ is all that matters.
‘reigns’ ?
Thanks for catching that.
THE DREAM IS DEAD!
Now we get to see what Senator Gutierrez and his minions will do now.
Unfortunately this came in the dead of winter and I don’t foresee the hispanics all coming out onto the freezing cold streets of one of the earliest winters in memory.
Yeah, that was a typo. TOO probably doesn’t have professional copy editors in the budget, leaving the authors to proofread their own work. And when you proofread your work, you are more likely to see what you thought you said than what you actually said.
I have never cared for the HBD crowd and the IQ obsessives.
I also don’t understand what makes US so different than our kinsmen who are hell bent on suicide. Why is it so obvious to us we are on the path to suicide but not to them? I have never been able to wrap my mind around it and probably never will.
Matt,
I see the Asians as an “object lesson” for us — namely, to take our competitive spirit and make it BOTH individualistic AND (racially) collective. To pursue our individual achievements for the glory and benefit of our biological collective.
The answer to Asians is not hostility, but rather the attitude that we should work harder to outcompete them. Only when we are doing that can we begin to work towards our ethnostate. Slackers will not get an ethnostate, and unfortunately the vast majority of our people have been socially engineered to be slackers.
The White nationalist movement is already full of formerly individualistic high achievers who were denied their true calling in life in the name of political correctness. This is going to happen more and more, thus “creating a nation” in the Buchanan sense. I was meant to be a professor of foreign languages and the like. Alex Linder was supposed to be a national politics and humor columnist and author like H.L. Mencken, but the times could not take the genius temperament of the great A.L.
Even the Jew Michael Savage talks about how his dream was deferred because of affirmative action. He caught on to a very important (and ignored) aspect of the Zeitgeist.
But getting your dream deferred makes you more angry and more ambitious and more creative. They are boiling the frog too fast! Our collective character is going to change radically, for the better.
HBD is interesting and often useful, especially as a way of finding common cause with not explicitly pro-white persons, but when they turn it into the be all, end all – it is little better than idolatry.
The last link is very revealing, an old Jewish line about whites and alcohol is being recycled for Asians, I can just imagine the reaction were someone to say ‘There’s a lot of just doing drugs’ about black students. Read what young whites are being told :-
(Yes, apparently those evil white administrators in top universities are excluding Asians to further their warped racial agenda). It gets better
It’s frightening how totally deluded they are. They really believe that the Jews are now fairly represented, the Asians are struggling against the odds to be fairly represented but the universities are ruled by evil WASPs who keep out deserving non-whites.
The whites who still make up much of the media/administrative/ legal/political elite have been trained to see things a certain way, they can only comprehend the issue in terms of white privilege based on white exclusion of non whites. It doesn’t matter that whites are actually underrepresented. Harvard Hates Whites .
The whites who still make up much of the media/administrative/ legal/political elite have been trained to see things a certain way
So do essentially all the rest of the whites. For some reason nearly everyone still believes that all “universities” and “colleges” are magical places like Harry Potter’s school at Hogwarts. And that only in such spots is it possible to “learn”.
This is despite fast accumulating evidence to the contrary. Perhaps someone could explain something to me. Namely, why is an immigrant south Asian who speaks English like his tongue was cut-out a better calculus instructor than:
Personally I preferred “Patrick JMT” with his 10 minute Youtube tutorials, at least until he added 15 second advertisements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g_g9-AU188&feature=channel
But if you demand Ivy League and a high quotient of Jewish lecturers, here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g_g9-AU188&feature=channel
Unlimited attendance at MIT. Front row seats guaranteed to everyone. And these instructors don’t mind repeating themselves time after time. Nor do they bore you with material you already know just because idiots fill the seats next to you.
“Oh but you can’t ask questions”. If you say this, you are merely revealing your extreme age. You typically can’t ask questions even if you’re in a physical class at a bricks ‘n mortar diversity hell hole like Duke U. The class sizes are too big to permit this disruption. The way this works is you *email* questions to a graduate assistant. Then then have a time period (usually 24 hours) to reply.
Great posts Scotsman – yes, HBD is interesting and potentially useful, but as you said, they tend to believe that IQ is the only measure worth looking at. Which is contradicts HBD as I understand it, because the theory addresses all kinds of behavioral traits beyond intelligence.
For example, obviously the Chinese have a good IQs, but the culture they create is totally different from Western culture.
L’Hospital’s rule??!! WTF? Lol.
But nice video anyway.
“I have never cared for the HBD crowd and the IQ obsessives.”
One of the pillars of the multicult is “race is a social construct”. We can use HBD to demolish that pillar.
“I also don’t understand what makes US so different than our kinsmen who are hell bent on suicide.”
I was antifa until a few years ago. I used to travel around fighting street battles with white power skinheads. It’s psychological conditioning. Some people are immune the same way some people are immune to a new flu virus. Most people aren’t.
If WNs understood this better they wouldn’t get so bitter about their own people and would start treating the problem like cult deprogramming because that is *exactly* what this is about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo
With their mutated eth dehydrogenase genes, I suspect those East Asians are getting “slizzered” rather quickly.
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I’m amazed I can still type because watching that Far East Movement music video may have made me retarded.
Really we have to realize that there is nothing unusual about this situation; they are in effect, lobbyists for their ethnic interests. Its a perfectly natural and even healthy reaction in a land where you are a minority. Asians are no different than any others, whatever their IQ may be. But wherever Asians are a majority, they dont create the same society with the same livability as whites. Instead, they will fill up nearly all space with development, pack themselves together like sardines and then exploit resources to the bone.
It’s easier to find critiques of asian immigration among Canadians and Australians; the HBD’ers would be wise to make note of their complaints. Race replacement is race replacement, even if we generally like asians (in their own lands, of course).
I heard of a university in Canada that the administration staff was so taken in by all this “equality” and “diversity” nonsense that they hired a Chinese woman for a faculty position in engineering. They were so thrilled that they had killed two affirmative action birds with one stone! All went fine until they started getting complaints about this so called Professor. The students complained that she didn’t know anything! A proper search of her “credentials” revealed that she didn’t hold the necessary credentials that were required for the job! When confronted with the truth, she admitted that she was using the credentials of her dead husband! This type of nonsense goes on all the time with Asian immigrants. From phony degrees to bribing driving instructors to get their licenses. I believe we have been sold a bill of goods about Asian “genius” as we have about Jewish “genius”. I simply ask if Jews and Asians are so smart. Why do they want so badly to live in White society? Are not truly superior beings such as they, so gifted in every way, that any society that they create is like a heaven on earth? Any visit to Israel or any Asian city will quickly change your mind about that! I see it this way. Jews and Asians tend to excel in only limited areas; such as Jews in anything that involves communication and Asians in Math. Thus their over-representation in these areas and societies’ gushing over their achievements. Whites on the other hand seem to be generally good at everything that it takes to create an ordered, technologically advanced civilization. Our abilities are not over-represented in any one area of endeavor, but are equally distributed in all. Critics of this idea might say that it has taken White society hundreds of years to achieve this pinnacle. My answer to this would be that Jewish and Asian society have had the same amount of time to created equal societies but have not. Case closed.
Rod Mckenzie … I believe you have just posted one of the most insightful comments in this entire thread. Well done.
I have spent many years traveling and living in Asia, and I must be frank with you all … I really have failed to identify the “Superior IQ” many of you keep referring to. Perhaps it is simply that Asians, generally speaking, eat superior food (i.e., not MacDonald’s junk or Kentucky Fries), have not had their brains scrambled by large Jewish communities living within their midst, and have been given an easy development path thanks to the massive amounts of investment monies poured into the region by the City of London, Frankfurt, and Manhattan looking for a quick and easy buck.
Remember! It was the largesse of the USA (aided by British Engineers teaching them how to build cars during the 1950s) that turned Japan from a culturally rich backwater, into a technological giant. Without such aid and guidance they would NEVER have made it … or not so far as they did.
Great post and Anglo Saxon is right. Asians tend to be way overrated. I think some of it is because they were initially compared to other minorities – like say Blacks – and they looked like superstars by that standard.
Obviously, all of Asia had stagnated for centuries and it has only been with massive US help and their adoption of a form of capitalism (and a ready made rich West to sell to) that we see improvement. If the West were to fall, Asia might well return to being a swamp.
When I studied engineering at my state university I first was a little intimidated by the asian students. They worked their little yellow asses off and made good grades. I went to a regular public school in Texas and felt hopelessly behind. I’d study until midnight and the little yellow hordes were still studying! I soon figured out why, though. They were the best students from their countries, and their parents went to a lot of trouble and expense to send them here. Failure was not an option! However, by the time we were all seniors I was not that impressed by them. Sure, they made good grades by working hard and memorizing everything, but they never showed any imagination. Give them something to copy and they can make a small incremental improvement. It was my fellow white men who came up with the truly inventive & world changing ideas, and it will always be that way, as long as we can survive.
I don’t think the asians are really our enemy, though, yet. They hate blacks worse than we do, in my experience. I don’t actually hate blacks, as it turns out. I just don’t like them at all, don’t want to live with them, and wish they would leave my once great country.
A further thought re: asians & HBDers. For several years now, Ive been a bit bemused at the consistent appearance of John Derbyshire in and about pro-white circles, although usually more from a HBD angle. Now, Im usually the last person to bring a man’s personal life, but his asian wife and mixed race children ought to at the very least disqualify him from being considered a credible source for pro-whites.
Derb’s not one of us, but he’s unique among “mainstream” conservatives in taking our ideas seriously, taking on our ideas instead of pointing and sputtering, and pushing the mainstream conservative discourse in a direction that’s generally commensurate with our interests. Those of us who believe there’s merit in influencing and engaging the contemporary American political and social milieu need to cooperate with those we share discrete goals with. This can be done without compromising our core principles or our core message.
There seems to be a kind of assumption that north east Asians and Jews are smarter “overall” than whites in this article, when really, all the testing says not. Sure, give them an IQ test and they’ll outperform whites, but give them just the verbal reasoning part of that test and they’ll sink well behind whites. Likewise, give them tests which involve creativity and originality, and you’ll quickly see why nearly every invention was made by the white man. My intention isn’t to downplay the demarcation you make between “NAMs” and “AMs” – I think it’s a useful distinction – but just to remind you that the question of who’s smarter than who isn’t as simple as one might hope.
Student,
The bottom line for me is that average intelligence isn’t relevant. Even if my people were the dumbest of them all, they would still be my people and I would fight for them. I generally agree with your basic take, believing the modern intelligence testing is biased in favor of pattern recognition, something Asians excel at especially when the problems are visuospatial in nature.
I believe recent efforts to make the tests culturally neutral have caused testers to rely more heavily on visual brain teasers, biasing the tests in favor of Asians. It’s difficult to test for what I believe Whites excel at, which is pattern conception. How do you test for that in a methodical scientific manner? My hunch is that humor is the most frequent and obvious expression of pattern conception aptitude in daily life. But how would you test for that? And is this creativity and inventiveness a quality that pervades our people, or something that only a tiny fraction of us possess and express?
But now you’ve got me rambling on about the very stuff that I’m trying to say is irrelevant.
Parrott: “Auctioning off our national inheritance to the smartest people the entire world has to offer is as asinine as raising the smartest children in town instead of your own. … Even if my people were the dumbest of them all, they would still be my people and I would fight for them.”
Here you almost put your finger on something, and that is the fundamental irrationality at the bottom of racism. The preference for one’s own race, taken seriously, means that you must favor your own race even when it isn’t the best. It means, for example, that you would insist on going to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first. It means that you would pay a higher price to buy goods from a White merchant than buy the same goods from a non-White at a cheaper price. One could multiply the examples endlessly, but it would always come out the same. In practice, few are willing to do these sorts of things. Even White racists are not, and that’s no small part of the difficulty we face. It is this fundamental irrationality of racism that makes it impossible to incorporate into technological systems generally.
It doesn’t really do any good to insist that in an all-White society, this question wouldn’t arise. That’s true, but the current system doesn’t exist in an all-White society, first and foremost because the world is not an all-White world. Nor, in practice, is there an easy way of obtaining one. Re-segregating the world into national/ethnic enclaves isn’t a practical solution either, from the point of view of an efficient system, so even if there were a realistic method of achieving this (and it so happens there isn’t), the entire weight of the system would work against it. To use the two examples I just gave, it would mean that you perhaps might need to travel to Tokyo to see the top surgeon you needed, or go to Hongkong to buy cheap electronics. Again, multiply these two examples a millionfold through every aspect of a society, and you will begin to understand why the system inevitably trends toward anti-racism. The lesson of the 20th century is that barriers of language, culture, and race all eventually fall before its god of efficiency.
The fundamental irrationality of racism also means that racist efforts to appeal to reason and respectability, such as HBD, IQ snobbery, and even KMD’s evolutionary psychology, are foredoomed from the start. This is because sooner or later, any racist must announce that he prefers his own ONLY because it is his own, even if by the standards of efficiency and reason it isn’t the best. It is at that point that he parts company with the purely rational. Of course, this will be easy to paint as foolish, bigoted, and hence, disreputable. Thus, it will be clear that people who wish to be seen as rational and who want, above all, to retain their respectability, will therefore never be able to solidly associate themselves with racism.
Kievsky: “I was meant to be a professor of foreign languages and the like. Alex Linder was supposed to be a national politics and humor columnist and author like H.L. Mencken, but the times could not take the genius temperament of the great A.L.”
What the system can’t tolerate is White racism. It can accommodate anyone who will renounce those beliefs.
Kievsky: “Even the Jew Michael Savage talks about how his dream was deferred because of affirmative action. He caught on to a very important (and ignored) aspect of the Zeitgeist.”
Savage is almost certainly bullshitting about this, just playing to his audience of largely White patriotard suckers who actually HAVE lost out to Affirmative Action. But since when have Jews even been inconvenienced by AA? They rely on their own ethnic networks to bypass it. If Jews were negatively affected by AA, then they wouldn’t constitute such a high percentage of the faculty and student body in every university and college. Also, I shouldn’t have to remind anyone here that it is Jews who PUSH for AA, implement it, and police it. Would they do that if they were being hurt by it? I don’t think so.
DWE,
Here you almost put your finger on something, and that is the fundamental irrationality at the bottom of racism. The preference for one’s own race, taken seriously, means that you must favor your own race even when it isn’t the best.
I agree that tribalism can result in short-term inefficiencies, but it’s rational to do what’s in your long-term interests instead of what’s in your short-term interests.
Re-segregating the world into national/ethnic enclaves isn’t a practical solution either, from the point of view of an efficient system, so even if there were a realistic method of achieving this (and it so happens there isn’t), the entire weight of the system would work against it.
You’r talking like these transitory “efficiencies” are more important than tribe, tradition, and transcendence combined. Even if they were net efficiencies (which they’re not in the aggregate), that wouldn’t justify singular pursuit of them. The pursuit of a more efficient society is a secondary consideration.
Besides, with our notable exceptions, the world is already pretty much sorted into ethnic enclaves.
This is because sooner or later, any racist must announce that he prefers his own ONLY because it is his own, even if by the standards of efficiency and reason it isn’t the best.
Jesus Christ! To return to the example I used in the article, is it “irrational” to raise your own kids, even if they’re not necessarily the best and most efficient ones? This tunnel vision can only be the product of sophistry or a syndrome.
The lesson of the 20th century is that barriers of language, culture, and race all eventually fall before its god of efficiency.
What a superficial and sweeping take. The 20th century could more easily be depicted as one confirming the superiority of ethnic nationalism, with intermingled ethnicities coming into conflict during the wars, and segregated ethnicities existing side-by-side in relative harmony afterwards. The populations set to dominate the 21st century are the ones that are thinking and acting tribally. China’s excelling very rapidly despite protectionist trade policies and restrictive immigration policies. Germany’s on the march in spite of its immigrant problem, not because of it.
If increased trade and multicultural interaction favor those who aren’t tribal, then why are the most fiercely tribal people in the world at the very core of it and gaining the most from it?
Der weiße Engel says “…The preference for one’s own race, taken seriously, means that you must favor your own race even when it isn’t the best. It means, for example, that you would insist on going to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first…”
This is a dishonest argument that seeks to confuse the reader who is not careful. Suppose someone in your family needed surgery and it was very difficult to perform. If your brother is a surgeon, but there is a far superior surgeon in this particular area of expertise, it would hardly be irrational to use the better surgeon, nor would it be any form of insult to your brother the surgeon. In fact, your brother would probably recommend the surgeon that is best suited for that particular operation. This doesn’t mean you are “selling out” your brother and no one would think of it in those terms.
The main benefit you are concerned with is a successful operation, not who gets paid for it in this case. So this argument deliberately muddies the water over exactly what the real prize is. This is an attempt to portray White Advocacy and a love for White culture as irrational
Parrott: “I agree that tribalism can result in short-term inefficiencies, but it’s rational to do what’s in your long-term interests instead of what’s in your short-term interests.”
Then answer the questions. Would you go to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first? Would you pay more for goods from a White merchant than for the identical goods from a non-White? If so, are you serving the long-term interests of the White race?
Parrott: “You’r talking like these transitory “efficiencies” are more important than tribe, tradition, and transcendence combined. Even if they were net efficiencies (which they’re not in the aggregate), that wouldn’t justify singular pursuit of them. The pursuit of a more efficient society is a secondary consideration.”
You’re describing the world as you wish it would be, but isn’t.
If the pursuit of efficiency really is secondary, then you would answer the two questions I posed in the affirmative. But let me guess … you don’t.
Parrott: “The populations set to dominate the 21st century are the ones that are thinking and acting tribally.”
That may be, but whose fault is it that the White man isn’t tribal? His lack of tribalism is almost certainly genetic. Unfortunately, he has constructed a system – a rational system – the continued operation of which is hostile to his existence.
Parrott: “If increased trade and multicultural interaction favor those who aren’t tribal, then why are the most fiercely tribal people in the world at the very core of it and gaining the most from it?”
The success of the Jews (or of Asians) is only superficially at odds with the efficiency of the system. Just ask yourself how a Jew or an Asian would answer the questions I posed. Would he go to an inferior Jewish surgeon instead of a top-flight non-Jew? Would he pay more to buy from a Jew as opposed to a non-Jew. No, and no, I think. Jews and Asians just happen to be a lot better at maintaining their ethnic cohesion in a hostile environment, but the same system forces are active against them.
Also note the conflation of terms that anti-White, anti-American agitators like Der weiße Engel employ. There is a lot of general confusion and misuse of terms like “racism”, “racialism”, “race realism”, etc., along with a host of different but overlapping terms. So by using the most charged term – “racist” – Der weiße Engel hopes to smuggle in all the negative connotations associated with it to White culture and White Advocacy.
The Communists used to do something similar in the old days by attempting to confuse Fascism with Capitalism in the public mind.
Der weiße Engel: Then answer the questions. Would you go to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first?
Well of course I would go to the non-White surgeon. Any rational person would.
That said, your thought experiment is obviously absurd.
In point of fact, there brilliant White physicians throughout the United States from East to West, North to South, and throughout the world. My father’s life was saved a few years ago by a White cardio-thoracic surgeon with hundreds of surgeries under his belt, including double-digit heart transplants.
In point of fact, the top talent is every field is filled with Whites, so finding top talent in a world disaggregated into ethnic enclaves would not be a problem in the White, Western world.
The people in India would likely have to do the traveling. It would not be the other way around.
LEW: “Well of course I would go to the non-White surgeon. Any rational person would.
That said, your thought experiment is obviously absurd.”
I don’t think so. You just admitted that you’d go with the non-White, and that’s my point. Even so-called racists (or racialist, or ethnic partisan, or whatever you would prefer to call yourself) can’t bring themselves to put race over reason. And that is why, long term, the racist cause is doomed under the rules of the current system.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if it was Whites who, by virtue of their superior rationality, were alone among the races in being able to construct such a rational system that suits them and their talents so well, and yet by its very operation, appears destined to destroy them as a race? For that could indeed be the case.
LEW: “In point of fact, there brilliant White physicians throughout the United States from East to West, North to South, and throughout the world. My father’s life was saved a few years ago by a White cardio-thoracic surgeon with hundreds of surgeries under his belt, including double-digit heart transplants. ”
The pre-eminence of White people in many fields isn’t the issue here. The fundamentally irrational nature of racism and the impossibility of reconciling it with the requirements of a rational system is.
Note well that none of this amounts to a moral indictment of racism. I’m not saying racism is bad, nor am I saying that anti-racism is good. On the contrary, I think racism is good, and would like to see more of it, not less. But, for most questions, taking race into account at all is fundamentally not rational, and applying it doesn’t always result in an efficient solution, and applying it systematically is virtually guaranteed to result in a host of inefficiencies. You can have a rational system or a racist system, not both. It’s best people involved with it face that.
DWE says…
Then answer the questions. Would you go to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first? Would you pay more for goods from a White merchant than for the identical goods from a non-White? If so, are you serving the long-term interests of the White race?
Proposing that I must maintain a rigorous racialist consistency in the most onerous context is a straw man, one that you accidentally knock down yourself at the end of your comment. As you said it, the most successful tribe don’t go to these extremes you’re claiming we’ve got to go to.
That may be, but whose fault is it that the White man isn’t tribal? His lack of tribalism is almost certainly genetic. Unfortunately, he has constructed a system – a rational system – the continued operation of which is hostile to his existence.
It’s not almost certainly genetic. Our complete reversal of tribal confidence was a recent reversal of our historical norm. It’s doubtful that it will survive the first hiccup in the cornucopian festival.
Systems that are hostile to our existence can be torn down. Your transparent attempts to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt are hopelessly scattershot. Do you really think I’m going to turn my back on my heritage, my people, and our future because of some flimsy static about fighting for everything I know and love being “inefficient”?
Parrott: “[The White man's lack of tribalism is] not almost certainly genetic.”
I disagree, and I think KMD disagrees too. He definitely states in CoC that Whites, as a race and on average, are more disposed to individualism and less disposed to collectivism, and that this is on a genetic basis as a result of the environment Europe provided the White race during early stages in its development.
Parrott: “Proposing that I must maintain a rigorous racialist consistency in the most onerous context is a straw man, one that you accidentally knock down yourself at the end of your comment. As you said it, the most successful tribe don’t go to these extremes you’re claiming we’ve got to go to.”
What part of my reply didn’t you understand? I’ll repeat it here for easy reference.
In other words, the ethnic cohesion of Jews and Asians breaks down in just the same ways that our own does. The system grinds them down too. To the extent that ethnic networking enables them to exploit inefficiencies within the system better than Whites, it doesn’t necessarily follow that Whites will be able to emulate them.
Back in the day before the Culture of Critique when whites were more racially nepotistic, everyone accepted that whites were intellectually superior to Asians (Asians included).
It takes native intelligence plus nepotism and a public relations campaign to gain a reputation for group intellectual excellence. Jews and Asians have ticked all these boxes in the last forty years. In this way they have transformed the results of rampant ethnic nepotism into a public perception that their achievement is the deserved fruits of meritocracy.
One area where Jews leave Asians for dead, however, is in the hyping of their own kind. Read a book by a Jewish academic and count the endless citations and references to the work of fellow Tribesmen. Sub-standard and mediocre scholarship is given oxygen and undeserved status through this rampant Jewish self-promotion.
Also, when Jews discuss great European artistic and intellectual figures they invariably de-emphasise their national and racial origins and seek to present them as exemplars of a ‘universal human genius’. Beethoven and Shakespeare are perhaps the classic examples who are never presented as embodiments of specifically German or English (or even simply European) genius, but of some deracinated ‘universal’ genius.
In doing this Jewish academics and intellectuals seek to undermine the capacity of white people to used these figures as a locus for white racial pride, which, in turn, could be used to enhance white group cohesion.
Meanwhile Jews constantly stress the Jewish origins of the likes of Mahler and Einstein. Figures like these thereby become personifications of a specifically Jewish genius.
It’s Jewish hyperethnocentrism in action – Jewish achievement is particularised and made a locus for racial pride, while European achievement (which is far greater) is universalised an delegitimised as a locus for racial pride.
If Jews are descendants of Khazars, as white nationalists often claim, and Khazars are eastern European, and eastern Europeans are white, wouldn’t that make Jews white?
Khazars are Turks. Why do so many East Asian girls love Jewish guys more than their own?
Der weiße Engel says “…The preference for one’s own race, taken seriously, means that you must favor your own race even when it isn’t the best. It means, for example, that you would insist on going to a White surgeon who graduated last in his class, as opposed to a non-White who graduated first…”
The race issue is political in nature involving the concept of the state, which enjoys many privileges in society, one of which is the use of force and violence.
Jeff Maylor said…
Also note the conflation of terms that anti-White, anti-American agitators like Der weiße Engel employ. There is a lot of general confusion and misuse of terms like “racism”, “racialism”, “race realism”, etc., along with a host of different but overlapping terms. So by using the most charged term – “racist” – Der weiße Engel hopes to smuggle in all the negative connotations associated with it to White culture and White Advocacy.
The Communists used to do something similar in the old days by attempting to confuse Fascism with Capitalism in the public mind.
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Good call Jeff.
“Der weiße Engel” comes across as a classic Concern Troll.
This type may very well be the worst kind of troll – the one who pretends he ‘understands’ us – if we would just be ‘reasonable’ and don’t put up ‘too much’ of a defense of our culture, and for our interests, cause you understand – the Jews, or the Asians, or the “fill in the blank__ __ __ __” yada yada yada, are just so ‘wonderful’, and, at worst, ‘misunderstood’.
Reality check: “yada yada yada”
Another jerk who can’t answer the question chimes in.
There is nothing remotely irrational or anti-White about going to a non-White surgeon if this imaginary doctor is uniquely qualified to help you or a family member. It would not harm other Whites for you to use him. Linking the desire to preserve Whites and White culture with irrationality is absurd.
And of course this also illustrates another obvious point: The reason most of us prefer living and working with Whites is not out of some charitable sense of pity. It’s not like we wish we could live among Africans and Asians, but force ourselves to do business with Whites in order to help them out. Almost everyone I know looks high and low for a White doctor that speaks English. So this whole thought experiment is a fraud.
The success of the Jews (or of Asians) is only superficially at odds with the efficiency of the system. Just ask yourself how a Jew or an Asian would answer the questions I posed. Would he go to an inferior Jewish surgeon instead of a top-flight non-Jew? Would he pay more to buy from a Jew as opposed to a non-Jew. No, and no, I think. Jews and Asians just happen to be a lot better at maintaining their ethnic cohesion in a hostile environment, but the same system forces are active against them.
Der weiße Engel,
Do you mean the fact that they’re outbreeding at a rather high rates?
The general concept of meritocracy may be playing some role in that.
The same Jew who is more likely to use a non-Jewish doctor “if he’s the best”, may be more willing to go along with the idea of his sister marrying a non-Jew “if he’s a good enough guy”.
Meritocracy does have benefits from the standpoint of efficiency, but almost certainly reinforces thought patterns which undermine group cohesion to some extent.
At the same time, your example is very poor.
It doesn’t do a person’s race any good for him to keel over from having a doctor worse than the best one he could’ve had.
There’s such a thing as trade-offs, obviously, and this in one case where even from a purely racial standpoint going with the meritocratic choice seems most logical.
Thanks, Reality Check – I had to look up the term “concern troll”. That’s a great phrase.
Der Wienerschnitzel says
“In other words, the ethnic cohesion of Jews and Asians breaks down in just the same ways that our own does. The system grinds them down too.”
Yes, I guess that’s why Jews have had such a tough time maintaining ethnic cohesion over the last two or three thousand years. Why just look at how the capitalist system tore down their ethnic cohesion in Hollywood and Wall Street. Poor things. It’s hard to find a Jew that will hire another Jew.
Der weiße Engel’s specious argument is predicated on the false assumptions that Jewish and Asian surgeons have inherently superior capacities than white surgeons, and that admission into medical schools and appointments are entirely meritocratic.
Any rational person will choose the best surgeon available. That does not mean it is irrational for a white person to prefer that white people should be given the opportunity to become the best surgeons – opportunities that as a result of ethnic nepotism from Jews and Asians are currently denied many white people.
If whites behaved in the tribal way that Jews do you would suddenly find that the overwhelming majority of top surgeons would indeed be white, and this ‘thought experiment’ would be a non-starter.
****************** That is the correct answer. The only possible reason in modern American that there could be a shortage of white surgeons is because it has been generated. This has in fact, happened. In the 60′s the Democrats schemed to create a shortage of physicians by artificially restricting physicians. Then they sent recruiters to Pakistan and India to bring doctors from those countries here. Ask any Pakistani or Indian whose dad is a doctor how his father ended up here.
NOW, with AA (and still too few medical schools), the is far worse. If admission to medical school were truly meritocratic, there would NEVER be a need to go to a non-white doctor. This argument also forgets another crucial aspect of the the problem. Do you think that an Indian doctor will really take care of you as well as he would someone else from the subcontinent?
I can’t stand the Asians. They are the stingiest group on earth, they push to get everything they can get their hands on and marry white men (or women) to grab what they can from them and their long line of white ancestors. Be careful. They, instead of your white descendants, will inherit your estates and white homesteads. I do not find any generosity or compassion in “Asians.“ They are a petty minded criminal people who may not be as systematic with their thievery as the Jews, but they are certainly kissing cousins. Jewish movies try to portray Asians as persecuted. Nonsense. They are about as persecuted as the Jews which is – not at all.
It is absolutely essential for the Jews to keep up their own victim hood. They are irate if anyone questions it. That’s because they – who say they have been around four thousand years – have nothing to point to that could remotely be considered great….no creation of great civilizations, no noble deeds, no courageous battles, no great art or literature, no great science, no imperial governments…. Being victims gives the Jews the excuse they need not to tick off great achievements because they have none. History has no evidence.
I just talked to a White woman in Calgary who is not at all associated with White advocacy or anything on the “right”, but she is suddenly very concerned about all the Asians and East Indians, and especially how the they few women. She sees her daughters freedom being threatened by it. I think this concern could be very fruitful for getting White women to open their eyes. Without White culture and White men, our women will wind up conforming to the norms of misogynistic cultures.
DWE,
I heard what you said the first time and I addressed it directly. You said that we Whites are doomed to fail because of a supposed inferiority at ethnic cohesion. Even if that is true, and I don’t happen to concur with KMac on this particular hypothesis, we may just have to work a little harder at it. We’ve carried on from one success to another for century after century for millennia, repelling several similar challenges, and you want to tell us that we’re somehow genetically incapable of coming together in defense of our group interests and might as well hang it up?
Reginald: “The same Jew who is more likely to use a non-Jewish doctor “if he’s the best”, may be more willing to go along with the idea of his sister marrying a non-Jew “if he’s a good enough guy”.”
Absolutely. The final place that all this ends up is in the obliteration of race. If you are willing to make an exception for doctors, then why not other fields? Why not go to Walmart and buy Chinese goods instead of supporting your local White vendor, despite his higher prices? Why not buy cheaper food imported from a non-White country’s farmers instead of buying local from a White farmer? Why not honor black “affletes” over White athletes, to the extent they really are better? In a meritocracy, by definition there’s no limit based on race. It’s anti-racist by nature. To the extent Whites tie themselves in to it, they become anti-racists themselves.
Reginald: “It doesn’t do a person’s race any good for him to keel over from having a doctor worse than the best one he could’ve had.
There’s such a thing as trade-offs, obviously, and this in one case where even from a purely racial standpoint going with the meritocratic choice seems most logical.”
Oh, it’s logical alright. But it’s also inherently anti-racist. Of course, if it were only one incident, it wouldn’t be a problem. But the rational system a meritocracy sets up applies on a society-wide basis, in millions of different areas. The result is the dissolution of national, cultural, and genetic boundaries.
Remember, it was the free, individualistic system that allowed freedom of association that Jewish activists had to destroy. Under that system, Jews were often excluded. Neighborhoods segregated themselves naturally (and still do so through White Flight and other mechanisms). Country clubs to this day would like to exclude Jews and Blacks if they could, even though a very narrow economic view might say that it would benefit them to allow them in (more revenue). They understand perfectly that in the long run it would hurt their business.
Imagine you own a nice golf course with a great clientele of Whites, when suddenly, some Der Wienerschnitzel type Jew shows up and wants to join. Even if a Jew like him offered to pay 10 times the going rate, you would refuse. Why? You would recognize immediately that in the long run, having a Jewish concern troll like Der Wienerschnitzel would drive off the rest of your business. And so you would run your business and neighborhood the way Whites ran it for generations before the federal government FORCED them to act against their rational self-interest and accept Jews and Blacks.
So much for that argument. If Jews had not taken away our freedom of association in this country, if they had not made it illegal for Whites to congregate, Whites would naturally have far higher rates of cohesion than we see now.
Remember, it was the free, individualistic system that allowed freedom of association that Jewish activists had to destroy. Under that system, Jews were often excluded. Neighborhoods segregated themselves naturally (and still do so through White Flight and other mechanisms). Country clubs to this day would like to exclude Jews and Blacks if they could, even though a very narrow economic view might say that it would benefit them to allow them in (more revenue). They understand perfectly that in the long run it would hurt their business.
Another out-of-the-park homerun, Jeff.
One way that you could always tell if someone is either a Jewish, or worse, a shabbos-goyim ‘concern troll’ to a White-interests site like ours is their consistent repetition of the economic argument they virtually ALWAYS employ.
You know – the classic Milton Friedman “economics is the be-all and end-all of ‘All” … followed closely by the oh-so omnipotent “bottom-line’ of the ‘profit margin”, which is indeed the ‘Holy Grail’ of economic Babylon.
To these Liberturdian types – they try to bring EVERYTHING in White, Western society under the sway of economic reductionism – therefore making EVERYTHING in Western society easier to commodify – i.e. make everything ‘for sale’ including, as even the Bible says, the “bodies and souls of men”.
Believe me fellow White Americans – Liberturdianism was far more responsible for our disposession as a people, way, waaaayyyy more than ‘Cultural Marxism’ was, since it reduced everything in our country, including ourselves, for sale to the ‘highest bidder’.
And I think History has so eloquently borne out who indeed has been the ‘highest bidder’ throughout its recorded tenure… .
Der Weiße Arschloch said:
“Just ask yourself how a Jew or an Asian would answer the questions I posed. Would he go to an inferior Jewish surgeon instead of a top-flight non-Jew? Would he pay more to buy from a Jew as opposed to a non-Jew. No, and no, I think.”
These people would almost certainly prefer a kinsman above a higher-qualified stranger. Like most libtards and (most likely) Members of the Tribe, der Weiße Dummkopf knows very little of actual life in the “ethnic” communities.
Rod Mckenzie
Thank you. Just more jewish lies, folks. Jews have a high criminal IQ and are proficient liars. I will give them that.
The same jewsmedia that browbeat us with the myth of high jewish IQ and great jewish geniuses like the patent office plagerist Einstein is now hard at work selling the myth of high Asian IQ. Don’t buy it.
Next we’ll be hearing about certain tribes of brilliant high-IQ African blacks who, naturally, all deserve an American ivy league university education no matter the cost to white taxpayers and the extensive remedial classes and tutoring required. Eventually we’ll be told by these same “experts” that whites are at the very bottom in IQ test scores and that’s WHY we just can’t compete with all the high IQ non-whites in our own countries.
Even if Asians and jews are smart they shouldn’t even be here competing with and displacing whites from white American universities. The problem is not IQ but the hordes of non-whites in white western countries clamoring and clawing and trampling any whites who get in the way.
‘The same jews media that browbeat us with the myth of high jewish IQ and great jewish geniuses like the patent office plagerist Einstein is now hard at work selling the myth of high Asian IQ. Don’t buy it.’
Good point. The Jewish self-promotion of the idea of Jewish intellectual superiority is an object lesson in Jewish ethnocentrism and sophistry. Jews have used their position as the self-appointed gatekeepers and critics of Western culture to further Jewish interests through the way they conceptualise the respective intellectual achievements of Jews and Europeans.
They always emphasise the specifically Jewish nature of the intellectual achievements of figures like Einstein and make them a locus for Jewish racial pride.
Meanwhile they de-ethnicise and universalise European intellectual achievements (which are the far greater), thereby defusing them as a potential locus for white racial pride.
And the strategy works. Ever heard a white kid tell you how proud he is to share the same racial ancestry as Shakespeare – the greatest writer who ever lived? Or pride in sharing the same racial ancestry as Beethoven, Newton, Darwin, Leonardo, Tolstoy etc?
Jewish kids are encouraged to use EVERY achievement by ANY Jew in history as evidence of Jewish intellectual superiority and as a locus for Jewish racial pride. Ask a Jew how many Jews have won Nobel Prizes and a high percentage will know the answer.
Glen said:
“Jewish kids are encouraged to use EVERY achievement by ANY Jew in history as evidence of Jewish intellectual superiority and as a locus for Jewish racial pride. Ask a Jew how many Jews have won Nobel Prizes and a high percentage will know the answer.
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Fantastic post, Glen.
Additionally, this is the sine qua non of Multi-Kultism — the major operating and governing principle in how Multi-Kulti ‘moralists’ demand Whites view, and particularly what they publically say about them.
In other words, Whites are only allowed to feel guilt and shame — never pride — regarding their ancestors and their people contemporarily.
However of course with non-whites, MOST ESPECIALLY JEWS, it is the exact opposite: they exist as a group to be admired, cherished, and lauded for (often false) accomplishments.
When they commit horrors, on the other hand, the group designation is immediately removed. Suddenly they are just “individuals,” and the group context that made the horrors possible is ignored and held blameless.
In other words, to make this into a more memorable quote, or meme, let’s just say that if one speaks of groups in Multi-Kulti America today they cannot breach one of the most basic and fundamental components of Cultural Marxist ‘etiquette’ :
“Whites can only be criticized as a group, never praised — while on the other hand, non-Whites (again especially Jews) can only be praised as a group, never criticized.”
This may not be germane to this discussion (but may provide some useful fodder for further discussion), but I recently talked to a Han Chinese acquaintance (who lived in mainland China for sometime and can read and understand Chinese) about a week ago, and he told me that the Hans (although not him individually) regard blacks and Hispanics as inferior to them and see themselves on the same intellectual plane as whites. He also said that the Hans regarded Chinese Muslims (the Hui ethnicity) also as inferior. I said that this perspective somewhat recapitulates The Bell Curve racial hierarchy, but he told me that it is impossible to “define” intelligence, using a rather specious analogy from track in a feeble attempt to deprecate “g”. He posed the rhetoric question of “who is the fastest man on Earth?” and added that “fastest” has multiple meanings (i.e. that one cannot compare athletic prowess on the track field because there different events such as the 100m and the 1600m). Of course, Spearman’s g refers the observation that a significant proportion of the variance among the different subtests of assessments of intelligent are due to a signal unitary factor. To put it pedantically, g is not intelligence (as that term’s definition has multifarious manifestations and should be avoided when one attempts to speak/write using precise diction) but general mental ability. I suppose that athletic ability is influenced by a single general factor at the normal range of performance. Usain Bolt, a Jamaican athlete who can run the 100m under 10 seconds, probably would place better than the 95 percentile of humans while running the 1600 m because simple has plenty of the “general athletic factor”. In order to place among the world elite in sprinting, one must have plenty of a specific “sprinting factor” which would physiologically probably be reflected in one’s fast-twitch to slow-twitch muscle fiber ratio. Conversely, the specific factor required in elite distance running is negatively correlated to the aforementioned “sprinting factor” because that would require plenty of slow-twitch fibers as that is mutually exclusive to the high ratio fast-twitch fibers that sprinters require. Usain Bolt’s prowess in sprinting renders him unable to perform at the elite levels of distance running because performing merely at 95th percentile is unsatisfactory in international competitions, but this does not diminish the importance of a “general athletic factor” at lower levels of competition nor is it an argument against its existence.
But the main point I wanted to convey was that the contemporary Chinese (and probably their elite) hold a hierarchical perspective on the aptitudes and accomplishments of the various macro races, probably from inferences with their historical experience from interacting with whites and by observing the culture and societies of other races, not from reading psychometric literature on racial differences. However, this is just anecdotal as I am just reporting on the perspective of one person, but this observation seems consistent to how most people reading this blog view the world.
Interesting points, Aki. From what I know about Asia, from study and speaking with Asians and Asian-Americans, I say you are very correct.
Thanks for sharing your observations.
*Just curious, judging from your name, are you of Japanese descent?
No, I happen to like that character I named myself after. Just type the name in any search engine.
BTW, if you really want to know my ethnicity, you have to solve a little puzzle (not too difficult if you use google or wikipedia):
I have the same ethnicity as the person as the last person who won consecutive Cy Young awards. :)
Well obviously in the West and throughout our native lands we only see the best China, Japan and India have to offer. So we are dealing with a highly biased sample. Most of India is a shithole, and only the eastern third of China is developed with the other two thirds being a backwater filled with subsistence peasants. Asians in general show little capacity for innovation. What they can do well is refine and extend technologies created by Whites, after Whites have done the groundbreaking work. Asians are also a cruel people who tend towered depravity. Asian filmmakers often produce material so disgusting and depraved they make Jewish Hollywood look like purveyors of wholesome and healthy values.
Most of what you have written is correct. Especially your laconic observations of India and China. I should know. I have visited both countries.
Those indigenous to the ‘Asian Region’ tend not to innovate because they are, first and foremost, CONFORMISTS. This helps explain why the criminals in control of Wall Street like investing there instead of in the USA.
But, what I would like to politely suggest to you, is that you try to be more careful how you use the words “Asia” and “Asian”.
For example. You cannot equate the Philippines with Burma, or Vietnam with South Korea (even though both had to put up with dumb American GIs “fightin’ for freedom and demokrepicy!” Furthermore, China is not Asia. China is China, and has influenced every other country in the Asian region. As for bullsh*t filled India, it isn’t even Asia … never has been, never will be. India is all by itself, except for its immediate neighbours: Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Butan, and Pakistan. I can tell you from personal experience that India is culturally far closer to the Arab world than it is to Asia … period!
So, as I suggested earlier. ‘Asia’ and ‘Asian’ are two misdirected and abused words. Their overuse and misuse just confuses the hell out of most travelled people, like myself. Better you (and some others commenting here) go back to revise some history before attempting to talk in such sweeping terms of Asians.
Another example. If you told a Thai his people were just like Vietnamese he would look at you strange, and wonder if you were another plonker from Harvard. Comparing the Thais with the Vietnamese is like trying to compare chalk with cheese.
As regards depraved ‘Asian’ filmmakers being worse than Jewish-Hollywood … surely this is a bizarre exaggeration? Those few depraved movies that do emerge from Asia have all been influenced either by Hollywood, or by NWO queers with Oxford University degrees, working in London, England.
The only country in the entire so-called ‘Asian’ region I have identified as being capable of regularly producing depraved films is Japan (thanks to an over-weening American ‘cultural’ influence). Incidentally, pornography in Japan is legal and has been for many decades. On the other hand, some of the deepest, inspirational, and morally uplifting films can be found coming out of Japan. Try watching some of their Samurai movies, such as “The Hidden Blade” (on DVD). Superb.
Thanks for sharing your observations. Points well taken.
towered=toward.
I hate not having a comment editor to fix typos.
ad LEW
No, no. Leave it. The thought of a gentle asian tending towered depravity is delightful if only a trifle obscure.
We should not be too proud to learn from the Japanese, particularly in the matter of treatment of potentially competitive East Asian minorities. The Korean minority in Japan doubtless possesses the high average IQ and work ethic of their South Korean cousins but the sensible Japanese do not allow them to dominate any aspect of Japan’s cultural milieu.
Severus … I enjoyed reading your comment and admire the clear thinking behind it. Many good points. I expect most other TOO readers will be appreciating it too. Well done my Brother.
When aged in my mid-thirties, I once scored 152 on a MENSA practice test, completed under strictly timed conditions. This score placed me in the Genius bracket. I was of course invited to join, but never bothered.
I know I am not dumb (my academic achievements since Primary school have been consistently good) but a fat lot of good it has done me!! I am not rich, have had to work (as an Engineer) in some damn awful places (like the Sahara Desert and Saudi Arabia), and was once bankrupted by a bad property deal. My “above average intelligence” has certainly NOT been a passport to success, and on many occasions it has been a millstone around my neck because others have tended to hate me for being “smart”. Also, I tend not to suffer fools easily, so perhaps I have on occasion attracted hostility simply by being careless with my (well intentioned) criticisms.
So, if my personal experience means anything, then for sure we can over-egg the IQ issue … or be drawn into over-egging IQ scores due to the exorbitant public claims made routinely by those who mischievously assert: ‘Jews’ have a superior IQ therefore they deserve to control the banking & finance industry, and our mass media.
Yeah, sure thing. And I’m the Caped Crusader.
Would a Jewish surgeon give a discount to a Jewish patient? How does the old saying go, without Gentiles who would pay retail?
Sophistry, or as mentioned earlier, “concern trolling.”
Parrot nails it with this article; “Auctioning off our national inheritance to the smartest people the entire world has to offer is as asinine as raising the smartest children in town instead of your own.”
If race is a large extended family, allowing Asians to compete against Whites in schools built by and for White people is like making your own children compete with strangers to live in your house.
“the most successful tribe don’t go to these extremes you’re claiming we’ve got to go to.”
It’s humorous that Whites are being told that “racism is irrational” by Jews and Asians – the most racist people on earth. Jews have a rhetorical edge over Whites, they have a self-admitted strategy of “forcing others to live up to their own rulebooks” (a paraphrase of Alinsky) to show the hypocrisy of Whites. But Jews (and in this context Asians) are not hypocritical because their “rulebook” is simply “what is good for Jews” (or Asians) while only Whites have constructed this idea of a color-blind meritocracy.
The critics are correct; Whites need to stop being hypocritical and *openly* support our people and ask “is it good for Whites?”
Thought you all might be interested in this article on illegal immigration from Korea, where most everyone thinks is scrupulously ‘law abiding’ on coming here legally.
It is from 2003, but the facts are still unfortunately the same – if not in fact worse.
Voices That Must Be Heard: The dark reality of life of Korean illegal immigrants – New York Community Media Alliance
“…who now have green cards would be able to petition for their parents and siblings and the permanent residency grants…”
Thank God we stopped the “Dream” Act! (The “Nightmare” Act for the American Majority.)
Right after I posted that article on Korean illegal immigration – I happen to find this one on Chinese illegal immigrants as well. (Eeek!)
In Arizona, a Stream of Illegal Immigrants From China
TUCSON — The unforgiving terrain of the Sonoran Desert, south of here, whose searing summers and frigid winters claim hundreds of lives each year, has long been a favored avenue of entry for illegal immigrants from Mexico and other Latin American countries. But in the last year, the authorities say, smugglers have increasingly capitalized on a much more lucrative business — trafficking Chinese citizens into the United States.
The number of Chinese immigrants arrested while illegally crossing the border into Arizona through the busiest smuggling corridor in the United States increased tenfold in the last fiscal year, according to the United States Border Patrol in Tucson.
In fiscal 2009, 332 Chinese immigrants were caught in the Border Patrol’s Tucson sector, up from 30 the previous year, Border Patrol figures showed. And in what could be a sign of a record-breaking pace for this year, agents in the Border Patrol’s Tucson sector arrested 281 Chinese immigrants from Oct. 1 to Dec. 31, the first quarter of the current fiscal year.
The reason is simple: dollars and cents.
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Chinese immigrants commonly pay smugglers upward of $40,000 each to lead them from their homeland to the United States, Mr. Jimarez said. In comparison, he said, illegal immigrants from Mexico commonly pay $1,500 to $3,000.
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Peter Chan, a Tucson businessman who works as an interpreter at the federal courthouse in Tucson, said some immigrants had told him that they had paid a deposit of $5,000 to $10,000 to Chinese smugglers before leaving China.
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“We believe that there is coordination between Chinese organized crime groups and Mexican smuggling organizations,” Mr. Picard said.
Chinese smugglers have traditionally used shipping containers to take immigrants through American ports, but that has subsided as container inspections have increased, Mr. Picard said.
He said that several new tactics had emerged.
In the most common one, immigrants fly from Beijing to Rome, board a plane to Caracas, Venezuela, fly to Mexico City and work their way up to the northern border and into the United States. In another, they travel to Cuba, fly to the Yucatán Peninsula in Mexico and travel north into the United States.
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In 2009, 11,628 of the Tucson sector’s 241,673 arrests were non-Mexican — nearly 5 percent, Mr. Jimarez said. Only when the sector noticed the influx did it tally the number of Chinese entering in recent years.
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While the circumstances have changed, she said, the motivation for the new wave of Chinese entering the country illegally is rooted in the same ideal.
“The Chinese youth love the freedom Americans have,” Ms. Lee said. “They still see America as the land of promise.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/23/us/23smuggle.html?_r=2
Thanks for the info.
“The Chinese youth love the freedom Americans have,” Ms. Lee said. “They still see America as the land of promise.”
This is, of course, bs propaganda to lull the American masses to sleep. The Chinese are not coming for any purpose but to take over the United States. Their numbers have observably increased in the past few years where I live on the west coast. They are tapped into funding to buy businesses, apartment complexes, and homes which they fill up with Chinese tenants and employees.
Don’t forget the Chinese control the Panama Canal. I read several years ago a “conspiracy theory” that Chinese communists were being shipped in through the Panama Canal and up through the NAFTA superhighway which was paid for by China and described as a “military invasion corridor” for the Red Chinese Army. The NAFTA superhighway runs from the gulf coast of Mexico, cuts through the middle of the US and into Canada. Perfect to ship in troops, tanks, artilary, missiles and whatever else they need for a military invasion and takeover of the US. Americans were deceived when the Panama Canal was turned over to Panama. Americans weren’t told the canal would be promptly turned it over to the Chinese. A very vulnerable situation for the US.
Here’s a couple of links you might find interesting.
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-8/31055.html
http://www.rense.com/general85/China%27sPlanToConquer.htm
The issue with China’s rise on the geopolitical stage is not so much the threat of China’s military invading through the NAFTA Superhighway. It’s that it’s likely to empower the current anti-White regime of the US government even further and justify its growth, expansion, scope.
Jews probably do have higher intelligence, especially in verbal intelligence. It seems like all the tests show the same thing over several generations. However, it seems to be a rather particular form of IQ. My understanding is that there is a structure to Jewish IQ that is the opposite of Asian IQ. Jews are high on verbal, average on spatial. Asians are high on spatial, average on verbal. And by the way, I don’t think the difference is that big.
But your larger point is valid. Jews and Asians spend a lot of time and money trying to game SAT scores. When I was going to school, none of us did that. So that skews their results a lot. I think the intense training can raise you at least a couple hundred points.
So the practical lesson for Whites, is to start playing this game. Get in there and make sure your kids get the advantage too. The rules of the game should be different, but for now, we have to play by the rules of the battlefield.
There is no meritocracy in school admissions. Asians are cagey to complain about being denied spots at schools, but that’s when comparing Asians against other Asians. One Asian gets the spot, the next one didn’t. They scream discrimination. Just like the jews. After all, ALL Asians should be let in, just like all jews, right? Against Whites, these days the Asians ALWAYS get the nod, even when the white has equal or even better grades and test scores. It used to be that a White with astronomical scores, even with Affirmative Action and jewish manipulation of admissions departments could still stand a bit of a chance in getting past connected, nepotistic, favored Jews, Asians and other minorities, but that is no longer the case. In a different thread on this site, an individual pointed out that in raw numbers Whites have more qualified individuals for college, Medical Schools, etc. than any other group. Yet Whites are the distinct minority, discriminated against at every turn when it comes to admittance.
The Asian lack of ‘creativity’ or deficiency in divergent thinking, when compared to Whites, is well known. Same would go for jews constantly looking to take credit for White innovations whenever possible, look at Einstein pillaging from Poincaire, Lorentz, FitzGerald and others, not giving them a whiff of credit. A non-jew pulling this stunt in the sciences would be sacked at best.
What is less known is the rising belief in jews and Asians having narrower “bell curves”, in terms of IQ distribution, than Whites. Some studies with Asians point this way, Daniel Vining, etc. showing a narrower Standard Deviation. I side with those who believe that the structure of intelligence between Asians and Whites is big difference. Asians are almost too concrete in their thinking. People bring up ‘patents’, but in Asia, I can hammer a nail into your creation and be granted a patent. Jews? Well, they block Whites every way they can and loot our corrupt patent system along with the East Asians. This shows that one of the roots of the jew’s problems with us is their fear of actually having to compete on level ground. They can’t. Only by hiding behind the wall and tripping us up can they maintain their manufactured air of superiority.
Where are all the Asian ‘super geniuses’, the incredible inventors, and so on? They have done well in academic settings, a few individuals have made some key contributions. But look at their numbers, the millions who have put in the grind in academics over the past 40 – 50 years, and compare it to Whites who don’t exactly take academics as a do or die cutthroat activity (although maybe they should as things get worse). White accomplishment still towers above Asians. That’s why the Asians want us gone, never mind the jews.
Anyone who attended college with Asians knows I am right. Having attended a rather large UC system school stuffed with Asians, you realize, yeah, they’re smart in a way. But then you watch them. 99% of the ‘math whiz’ types end up going into Applied Mathematics. No exaggeration. Lack of divergent thinking ability. Or in Chem and Bio courses, the Asians would scream bloody murder and unite to stop essay exams, they’d rather have multiple choice. One time in a 200 level Bio course, the professor switched things up for the final, it was open book, but you’d have to be able to use what you’d learned over the quarter to answer questions. You had to do some critical thinking, make leaps in logic, tie seemingly unrelated items together. The study all night, take more amphetamines and memorize Asians from the US and Asian imports were flattened. The best score among them was dismal, not even hitting 50%, and these were the ‘cream of crop’. They raised a ruckus trying to say the test was unfair, biased, the usual. Once “off book” as we all noticed, 99% of the Asians were in trouble. This is the same working with them in the real world. But that’s material for another post. They don’t belong here any more than the jews who are in the middle of an incredible loot and pillage spree.
One note, I mentioned amphetamines and a lot of people might be surprised to hear this mentioned about Asians. They love those types of drugs, and a lot of them indulge in them to help focus in class or to be more alert while studying at night. No exaggeration. It probably wasn’t a problem decades ago, but now it’s quite prevalent. They aren’t impulsive savages like most blacks or mestizos, so there isn’t as much trouble from them when they are ‘using’.
Absolutely. The final place that all this ends up is in the obliteration of race. If you are willing to make an exception for doctors, then why not other fields?
Go away, troll. Nobody proposes the elimination of trade among nations and races. Your strawman is retarded.
This is about the most pussy article I ever read. Asians pissed me off in 2008 by voting Democratic by 60-40 margin, but Asians will never gain elite power in this country. They lack the spark, the fire, the balls. They don’t have what Jews have–chutzpah and cunning brilliance. Also, whites don’t have guilt complexes regarding Asians that they do with Jews and Negroes. Also, Asian birthrate in the US is very low. And besides, lots of Asian women marry white men,and lots of dorky Asian guys don’t get married at all.
To speak of Asians as a threat to White America is laughable. Sure, some Asians do well professionally, but they tend to be followers and conformists, not elite powergrabbers like the Jews. And though educated Asians tend to be liberal cuz of the colleges they go to–where liberal professors dominate–, they are rarely original as thinkers or bold as leaders. Japanese-Americans have been in the US for sometime, but what do Japanese-Americans control? Not much.
The main worries are liberal Jews, high tide of illegal Mexers who are swelling in numbers, and THE GODDAMN NEGROES!!
Any proud white man who’s afraid of Yellow Power is just a pussy bitch. Also, Asians aren’t that smart. Average Asian IQ is same as the white. Some Asians work harder but tend to lack leadership skills, and so they don’t come to dominate anything.
But the writer of the Occidental Observor article cries like a bitch. And he’s complaining because some Asians do good in school. Instead of saying whites should try harder too, he whines like a girl. He can’t handle any competition. Pussyboy.
average asian iq is 106; we’re only 100.
Oh no, how ever did you find out about our secret east Asian alliance? Our plan to destroy white culture with hip hop would have gone well if it weren’t for you meddling Occidental Observers.
You almost got away with that one my little yellow friend!
Der weiße Engel:
Your argument of super-duper Non-White specialist versus mediocre or inferior White physician is one of those rare to never moments that are irrelevant to the argument of positive racism for White people.
Let me put it this way: ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, who do you throw your business to? Racism dictates you give your business to your own, you prefer your own to all others.
The disingenuousness of Political Correctness and Antiracism dictates that you throw your business to anybody but your own race if you are White. Not only in cases where ALL THINGS ARE EQUAL, but in many cases you go with the Non-White over the Whie even if he is less qualified.
ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, I’m going to favor my own race. And where there is only a slight margin of Non-White superiority, I’m still going to go with my own race.
That’s nice, but not enough to really help. In fact, all things are never equal. How do you think we arrived at the current, historically unprecedented degree of world racial integration? You don’t really believe it was all the result of people deliberately choosing inferior services in the name of political correctness, do you? Market forces and meritocracy played a very large role in it, to be sure. You can stick your head in the sand if you want, but the trend is obvious. The degree of system-triggered racial mixing gets worse and worse every year, and White people need to understand why. It arises from the structural inability of an inhuman, completely rational meritocratic system to take account of an irrational, organic element like racial preference. Just one example, Walmart’s success in selling Chinese goods in America — which contributed significantly to the deindustrializing of America — was built on the willingness of Whites to stab their racial kinsmen in the back over only a few pennies difference in price. The successes of other big vendors in marketing Chinese goods are similar. The point is that racial preference is a human preference, and so is irrelevant to the system, which is non-human and even anti-human. To such a system, race will almost always be an extraneous criterion. If you are seriously seeking the cheapest, best product, you just don’t ask about race. Certainly it’s true that you CAN, but to the extent you allow race to override the main criteria you are being irrational, and introducing inefficiency. Even by adding that criterion, it makes your search more burdensome and less efficient, and in point of fact, that’s why most people don’t act like that, however much you or I might want them to. It’s sort of like introducing any other irrelevant variable, like shoe size or hair style. It would be like saying “Yes, I want the best product I can get at the cheapest price, but I’ll only buy it from a salesman who wears a size 13 shoe.” Or, “Yes, I need the best cardiologist in the world, but I’ll only use his services if he wears his hair in a mohawk.” People won’t do it, and for good reason. Like water, they take the path least resistance.
Thus, in a free market meritocracy, race is inevitably lost by degrees, over the course of decades, in millions upon millions of everyday decisions.
Above, some have tried to have it both ways. They say Jews and Asians will irrationally choose to disadvantage themselves with inferior services from a racial kinsman, but then suggest they won’t follow this course of action themselves. But why not? If this alleged racial cohesion of Jews and Asians is so powerful and such good strategy, why won’t these White racists do this themselves? Why won’t you do it? Brought face to face with the fundamental irrationality of racism, to a man these so-called defenders of the White race refuse to make the irrational, racist choice. Instead, through their various expressed preferences for non-Whites over Whites, they repudiate their own racism. Clearly, if the racist cause is to prevail, it needs to be made of stronger stuff. Racists who support their own race only if it doesn’t cost them much of anything or inconvenience them too much will never succeed in preserving their race in the face of system pressure to assimilate. The system itself is their enemy.
so what can whites do?
1) become self suficient
2)boycott tv, movies, asian restaurants, anything that is destroying us should be avoided
3)abstain from drugs, alcohol, and pornography
4)learn how to be of service to our breathen
5)spend our money amongst ourselves
6)become secretive and extremely distrustful of outsiders
7)start teaching our children about our situation and what we must do to overcome it
8)become chameleons while secretly practising our principles
….start behaving like jews people!
finally someone is addressing this issue. asians are way more important than the blacks. They are 6 iq points more intelligent than us, they get better grades than us, they go on to higher levels of education than us, they get better jobs than us, they make more money than us and, unlike the jews, there’s millions more of them than us. Asians are our biggest problem.
Here comes trouble…
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I think we need to consider the following tactic. Who cares if Jews and Asians game the system and get a few points higher on academic tests? The point of the matter is this: All the non whites want to live in our societies! We keep moving away from them, and they keep following us. If we are so bad, why do they follow? If they are so damn smart, why do they need us? All white societies are more functional than those run by other races because we have the right stuff. Let’s tell the fu%(*#$^s that we challenge them – lets set up an all white non jewish country, and you set up your own little paradise. See who thrives and who dies, who works earns what they have, and let the jews steal from themselves, not us.
What’s funny to me is that in spite of all the supposed smartness of asians, I haven’t met any that intimidated me with their brains. I know many asian and Indian (from India, not our redskins) doctors and engineers. They know what they are doing, and most of them are nice enough people. But I don’t see any great geniousness. I would say above average intelligence, but no flair for some great advance that would benefit mankind like Sir Isaac.
Some of the little yellow guys are hard workin’ SOB’s, though.
More trouble….
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