Mind Wars: Raising Healthy White Children in a Subversive Environment

Christian Miller


Above all, a White child must be raised to exhibit White behavior: to strive towards truth, honor, and a virtuous life.  Exemplary White men and White women from the past and present provide guidance for behavior expected in the future.  Familiarity with admirable White role models will help protect a developing mind from poisonous, nonsensical, cowardly, and traitorous ideas.  The alternative is the loss of yet another young White mind and spirit, overwhelmed from all sides in today’s twisted and subversive society.

Popular music and professional sports are teeming with African themes of criminality, cruelty, misogyny, egotism, and debased and debauched behavior.  Television, movies, and advertising are infected with a virulent strain of anti-White propaganda.  Academia, mainstream news, politicians, and pundits provide a persistent message of White guilt, racial nihilism, and shrill condemnation of any manifestation of White pride or White identity.  Jewish ownership and control of the media is so pervasive that Jewish media figures feel secure enough to boast thereof.  Yet to an untrained observer, the subversion towards Jewish interests or anti-White propaganda can be difficult to spot because it is designed to permeate the unconscious brain.  The viewer, or victim, is supposed to feel and absorb, not think and reflect.  Conscientious White parents must prepare their children with the analytical tools to see through the façade.

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An inert consumer, or a passive viewer, will unconsciously accept the bald-faced lies and distortions via the path of the least resistance.  Floating down the river in a stupefied trance is easier than swimming upstream against the tide of brainwashing.  Responsible White parents must be vigilant and tirelessly optimistic while pursuing their most important endeavor—raising the next generation of the White race.

The dark and subversive forces behind cultural Marxism and anti-White propaganda work incessantly to poison young minds with destructive and stultifying ideas.  Children will be immersed in a swirl of dusky faces in mainstream entertainment, carefully choreographed to mask unpleasant truths.  Doctors, lawyers, judges, generals, heroes, scientists, and positions of authority or expertise will be overwhelmingly casted as Black, mestizo, or other non-White actors, in stark contrast to reality.  The message is clear: the absence of an overwhelming presence of non-Whites in prestigious positions (i.e. reality) means that racism is afoot, and race-based social engineering or wealth redistribution is the solution.  Be careful to point out these distortions to a young child and encourage the child to ascertain the truth of the matter.

Image from AltRight. Caption: Black Computer Nerd (Jaleel White), Black President (Blair Underwood), Black God (Morgan Freeman) http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/zeitgeist/negrophilia/

Data regarding racial differences in Bar Exam passage rates, medical board scores, high school and college dropout rates, SAT/GRE/GMAT/MCAT scores, incarceration rates, and the relative numbers of minorities in positions requiring a high IQ are readily available via books, data studies, or Internet research.  The empirical argument of racial disparities in achievement is quite easy to advance, which is why a steady stream of false propaganda is used to distort the truth.  How many Black computer science or mathematics professors exist compared to the Black population?  How many Black astronauts, Rhodes Scholars, or jet pilots are there?  How many mestizo neurosurgeons, composers, or chemical engineers have risen to prominence?  By direct contrast, what is the Black and mestizo share of the prison population?  Be sure to provide the child with a firm grounding in the relative achievements, behavioral tendencies, and capabilities of the races.  Otherwise, the mainstream media will provide incredibly dangerous distortions, such as Black docility or passivity.

Be sure to provide an extremely important research project to the child—a comparison of racial crime rates.  Parents who love their children will not dare to hide the reality of racial crime rates because ignorance in this area can be fatal.  Perpetrators of rape, robbery, assault, and murder are not distributed evenly among the races, and White children must be aware.  Every White child must know the color of crime.  It is tragic to allow a White child to learn about interracial crime “the hard way.”  Instill healthy racial instincts, or rather, provide an environment in which these natural instincts will not be repressed.

Of paramount importance is a strong sense of White identity, pride, and duty.  Each White person is an unbroken link to the past and the future of the White race.  Remind the child of the sacrifices made, hardships endured, and trials faced by countless White ancestors.  Inform the child that each prior generation made the wise and just decision to seek a mate who could continue the lineage of the White race.  Make it clear that to break this chain of life is to spit upon the grave of every White ancestor, and to burn the bridge towards a White future, cursing all future progeny to a confused life of diluted identity.  When the child is mature enough to understand scientific concepts, provide a solid foundation of genetics and heredity.

White phenotypes are as delicate as they are beautiful.  Reinforce the idea that the beauty of the White race is largely a recessive trait.  Whites are the only race to produce the full spectrum of colors: blond, red, brown, grey, and black hair and blue, green, grey, and brown eyes.  Note that all other races are uniform and homogenous by comparison, with monochromatic hair and eye color.  Reinforce the concept that a White person breeding with a non-White person creates a non-White, invariably.  Only a White man and a White woman can produce a White child.  Miscegenation precludes the possibility of producing a White child, forever damning the future generations to a darker reality.  White genes are precious and must be preserved and guarded carefully.

Point out that when a Black man violates the sanctity of a blond White woman’s womb, the result will be a mulatto—a person that the same Black man would not find as beautiful as the blond White woman.  Hence, miscegenation demonstrates its own underlying depravity—destroying what one loves or admires.  The singer Seal and the golfer Tiger Woods spawned nappy-headed mulattos that look nothing like the beautiful White women who bore them.  The White genes came to a screeching halt the moment they intermixed with African or mixed-blood genes.  The resulting offspring are dark-skinned and broad-nosed, inheriting none of the aesthetic delicacy of their White beauty-queen mothers.  A visible shame of cosmic proportions follows the squandering of fine White genes.

Parents may worry that the child will fall prey to the lies of “race is a social construct” or “race is only skin deep.”  Rejoice, White parents—the mountainous mass of evidence on this subject makes these fallacies easily disproven.  A quick study of racial differences in bone density, fertility, prognathism, skull shape, susceptibility to various diseases, or rates of maturation will expose that race is more than skin deep and has a profound genetic significance.

To truly enforce the importance of racial distinctions, it is vital to introduce the child to racial differences in IQ, brain size, aggression, personality disorders, altruism, and sexual promiscuity.  The mental and moral differences are most important to explain why some races fail so often and represent outrageous shares of the violent criminal population.  A young child can quickly understand that painting a Black man white does not make him a White man.  An older, more mature young man can dive into the complexities of racial differences in intelligence, criminality, personality, and time preferences.  Eventually it will become apparent that the best retort for “race is a social construct” is “society is a racial construct.”  Society, civilization, and nation must be understood as historical expressions of racial stock.

History in public schools is taught as a meaningless mishmash of competing cultures, devoid of racial importance, coalescing in the modern age of enlightenment wherein everyone “realized” that race is nothing and environment is everything.  The enemies of the White race make it so easy to refute their pernicious ideas!  Kill two birds with one stone by teaching the child both accurate world history and the skills necessary to test a thesis by alternative hypotheses.  Ask the child why, if environment is so important, sub-Saharan Africans dwelled in a blessed abundance of natural resources, literally standing on diamonds in some cases, yet never invented the wheel or written language.  Spark the child’s imagination and hypothetical ability by proposing a world where the Africans in Haiti are magically replaced by Scandinavians, or Japanese.  Ponder whether Haiti would be different in a decade and most importantly, ask why.  Point out the stark contrast between the French-ruled Haiti, “Jewel of the Caribbean,” and the Black-controlled Haiti, embarrassment of the Western Hemisphere.  A curious child with a healthy appetite for truth will be able to apply these simple lessons to refute the fallacious explanations for disparities of civilization and culture.  As more and more examples come to light, the child will gain an important lesson—the effect of human race on human civilization.

Provide specific examples of civilizations that crumbled as their White genetic founding stocks were slowly destroyed through miscegenation with subjugated, absorbed, or enslaved foreigners: Persia, Greece, Rome, Egypt, and India.  “Browning out” is a concept every White child must understand.  India provides a long-view demonstration of the evils of miscegenation.  Teach the child about the Aryan imposition of the caste system in ancient India.  Note the present condition of the very-brown India, where the caste system has failed, which stands as a testament to the iron rule of race.

Bring the child to a museum to view artifacts of the early Egyptian dynasties, ruled by White pharaohs such as the red-haired Ramses II.  Review the tablets that colorfully depict White Egyptians conquering and enslaving Black Nubians and swarthy Semites.  Be sure to find a picture of the Pharaoh’s walking stick or scepter with Black and Arab heads attached and the sandals with images of Nubians and Semites on the soles.  Of course, these items signify the proud White Egyptian ruler holding the foreign enemies in his hand and treading upon them as he walked.  The racial distinctions in the early glories of Egypt are crystal-clear in the archaeology.  Next examine the art and relics of the later dynasties, which demonstrate a definite Black and Arab admixture in the royal bloodlines.  Note the coincidence of a failing Egyptian empire with the advent of half-blood princes.  Query the young child if the election of the mulatto Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States of America in 2008 signaled an analogous point in American history.  The rise and fall of civilizations can be one of the most exciting and enriching ways to learn about the importance of race.  A White child must understand his or her special place in the continuation of society, civilization, and nation.

From a young age, a White child must be instilled with a sense of racial duty to the past, present, and future.  White women must know that to bear and raise White children is a glorious honor, not something to be ashamed of or to dread.  Never allow any family member to partake in the denigration of housewives or domestic activity.  Mothers and other women must be properly protected, cherished, and celebrated as the guardians of the next generation, the keys to the future of the White race.  White men must understand that duty will mold their decisions in life, inspiration will spur their creations, and honor will guide their desires.  A White man accepts responsibility without question, provides for his family, protects his loved ones and friends, rises to all challenges, and proudly serves as a soldier-at-arms in the unending march of the White race throughout the history of this world and beyond.  Aryan means “noble” or “of noble blood.”  The White men and White women of the future must be true Aryans in blood, mind, body, and spirit.

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255 Comments to "Mind Wars: Raising Healthy White Children in a Subversive Environment"

  1. dubyasee's Gravatar dubyasee
    February 16, 2011 - 2:04 pm | Permalink

    I know (rationally, at least) that the points of this essay are correct. But when read the parts about white pride and defending the purity of the white genome, I cringed. So all pervading is the programming that has made me meek when it comes to standing up for my kind. I’m trying and growing, but it is against gale force propaganda.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 16, 2011 - 4:23 pm | Permalink

      We could all use a little chutzpah in defense of our interests.

      What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 16, 2011 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

      dubyasee, No you make a good point and what you were feeling is what the overwhelming majority of people would feel (or worse) if their visit to this site was one of their first tentative steps toward awakening.
      Everything the author said was correct, but the question he should have asked himself is whether if this site gets a lot of ‘first timers’ was here the best place such hard core, or whether his article was better suited to sites with more long term committed readerships. Or perhaps that he could have written it two different ways for both sites.

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      February 17, 2011 - 8:54 am | Permalink

      dubyasse- what makes you cringe? The concept of the superiority of the White genome? Why shouldn’t you resonate with this concept? Please note how members of other Races ADORE themselves, with infinitely less reason to do so.

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      February 23, 2011 - 12:36 am | Permalink

      Yes, well. The forces of propaganda, the “bad” Jews, wanted to put me in jail here. Luckily some Slav came to my rescue because it was recognized that I am a good and temperate servant. A lot of my friends are Jews. Some of them disagree with what is happening.

      Jews are your greatest enemy and your greatest potential friends. Don’t scare them away. We are a dumb people, albeit not as dumb as the decendents of Ham. And we need smart friends. Othewise, we pretty much lost this battle after WWII.

      P.S. Don’t intermarry. Fucking a black man is not a good way to prove you aren’t a racist. And selling out because you feel your brothers have lost the culture war is despicable. Think about it this way. Would I be allowed to marry a Jewish woman? Fat chance.

  2. Boudicca's Gravatar Boudicca
    February 16, 2011 - 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I agree with everything in the article.

    However we must teach our White children to defend themselves, with deadly force, if necessary against the genocide planned against Whites.

    This includes females too, as everyone will be needed when non-Whites outnumber and begin to exterminate us. You must also learn how/where to hide your guns because the government will disarm us. It will happen as White-hating non-Whites gain hegemony over us.

    My 17-year old practices at the local shooting range, with rifles and handguns. I myself am handy with a shotgun, rifle and handgun and won’t hesitate to use them if I have to.

    This also is part of our White heritage! We didn’t survive the ice ages by being nice to outsiders. We survived by defending ourselves, our loved ones and our food supply from marauders who wouldn’t hesitate to kill us and our children.

    If you need more proof, study the situation in South Africa and what is happening to Whites there.

  3. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 16, 2011 - 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Well, many have had that education. But what is put forth by the opposition is truth, in its own way. For example, if there seem to be no non-white or jewish professors, then they are given such jobs and that corrects the problem.

    And so, this does not answer the questions that most prey on a child’s mind: why is all this happening? If Dad is right, and we are these great people he says, then why don’t the government, administrations, central planners on t.v. recognize this? Wouldn’t they want more of us, instead of large welfare families of somebody else? And so on.

    American innocence is gone. Some were blessed to have a home for centuries especially, maybe, the protestants who had a land in which to bring forth their offerings, s/a their particular constitution, which is so directly related to their religious practices and the needs they had as they escaped Europe and its persecutions which have now followed them.

    Maybe one can no longer raise kids in the old cultural ways— at least not without telling them, in no uncertain terms, that others hate them, and that they live in a country where they are the object of hate, and they will be treated with hatred in person, and in books, movies, articles, and in fact, everything they find to be the best about themselves will be described as “bad” by others, or at least as ‘unearned”—whether it involves the care they take of their bodies, their minds, or their intelligence.

    Pleasant associations with “home,” and the things they ate, the clothes they wore, the religion they practiced—- will all be mentioned by people who roll their eyes as they do so, snort, and otherwise offer derision.

    Quite likely, they will be physically attacked at some point.

    But how can one expect strong young people with good minds and bodies to understand they are born into a reactionary culture that quite often has, as its cornerstone principle, the idea that they were bad?

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 16, 2011 - 4:28 pm | Permalink

      Dear Anne,
      I think you have the balance/tone better than the author of the article. You are right, what you say kicks with reality and appeals to the senses. We need to start behaving as an embattled minority because there are at least advantages to that mindset that can help us. If white people start to feel more like a minority, that will make them feel able to educate their children in subtle ways, ways such as you say that involve telling them to expect hatred and so from the start bestowing in them the ability to see things as they really are. If even 10% of parents did this more then we would get 100 times more 20 year olds awakening all by themselves and bringing leadership and vitality.
      Encouraging us to think as a minority is also achievable politically because it can also be framed in terms of encouraging whites to welcome multiculturalism. It doesn’t matter how it gets proposed, if the result is that it becomes easier for white people to raise their children with awareness of the hate they are facing.
      Your approach also kicks with Kevin Macdonald’s point that the priority now is that White identity be made politically legitimate. It can become more legitimate if we start to think and behave like we are already a minority. And to so say it again, this can be presented as actually being positive about multiculturalism so it can made to work even from our current position of weakness.

    • dc's Gravatar dc
      February 17, 2011 - 6:01 am | Permalink

      Heh, a novel use of “kicks”. :-)

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      February 17, 2011 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

      “But how can one expect strong young people with good minds and bodies to understand they are born into a reactionary culture that quite often has, as its cornerstone principle, the idea that they were bad?”

      I’m afraid futility feeds on futility, Anne, and that’s what I sense from your comment. Don’t get me wrong, you aren’t alone. Discouragement seems to be the common “strategy” for most people who leave comments on this site (me included), but it leads to nowhere. I know it isn’t intended to be a strategy, but that’s exactly what it will turn out to be in the long run if we don‘t change our perceptions a bit, because our children will sense our despair.

      I am not an optimist by nature, but I know that we, as a race, can’t ultimately be defined by what we are against, or that which persecutes us. I hear fellow Christians lament “the world is becoming less and less Christian.” I sometimes respond “OK…and how many Christians were there in the world when Jesus started his ministry?”

      The fact is there are currently 2 billion Christians in the world, more believers than any other religion. There are more white people in the US than any other racial group, and will be for the next several decades. And still, we, the advocates of the majority, often look at our situation with an almost INEVITABLE sense of doom and gloom. It seems that unless baby boomers see their situation as optimum, they (we) feel there is little hope. This is not a good sign. I hate to say it, but this is not the attitude that made white people the most prominent and influential race the world has ever known.

      I’m aware that the alarm and negativity being put forth are intended as a siren call to the sleepy and comfortable white majority, but we sometimes need to monitor ourselves. Look at what we DO have going for us:

      First of all, I don’t like Rush or Glenn any more than the rest of you do, but they, their colleagues and their millions of followers, have been able to get white America to distrust the mainstream liberal media to a greater degree than ever before. This is a good thing.

      Yes, the Tea Party is going down the wrong path, but many, many of it’s members are keeping the push against illegal immigration alive. I’m working with several of these people in my own state to help promote/pass legislation. Of course, there are many other things, as well.

      I had “the talk” with my own kids not long ago, and, despite my naturally pessimistic leanings, decided to frame it in the most positive way I could. I told them that they are the products of generations and generations of people from Europe, and when I look at them, I’m so proud, because I see, not only them, but my grandfather, my wife’s mother, and all of those who came before them from wonderful places like Britain, Ireland, Germany and Sweden.

      I did tell them blacks have problems with crime and coping and self control, and no loving parent would want to pass these traits on to their children, but I tried not to be too negative about it, because I’d like them to remember our talk fondly. I think they did. We will have many more talks, but I know they can’t be forced. They have to want to go there.

  4. February 16, 2011 - 2:36 pm | Permalink

    “Above all, a White child must be raised to exhibit White behavior: to strive towards truth, honor, and a virtuous life. Exemplary White men and White women from the past and present provide guidance for behavior expected in the future. Familiarity with admirable White role models will help protect a developing mind from poisonous, nonsensical, cowardly, and traitorous ideas. The alternative is the loss of yet another young White mind and spirit, overwhelmed from all sides in today’s twisted and subversive society.”

    Mind wars?…raising children? A waste of time and effort surely, unless you have nothing better to do?

    How many of the people writing lead articles for this blog read and understand any of the comments written by their readers, and if any do, do any of them ever really learn anything, especially if the readers challenge their core assumptions? I wonder, as back in January I began summarising what the important implications are from Behavioural Genetics as to intelligence and Personality, namely that Shared Environment is not important.

    Now that needs to sink in, but clearly has not. Much flows from that, but to see it, you have to stand back from one’s cherished core assumptions and think carefully about them. Something is wrong…

    Now I know that most people, when told something like that, do not reason logically through to the required conclusions, so I have repeatedly spelled lots of these out in comments over recent weeks for that very reason. But still, what do we see? We see remarks like the above well over a month later. Why is that?

    Whilst pondering that in terms of referential/intensional opacity (explained elsewhere to little avail it would also seem), give what I said in the last thread (about Behavioural Economics and policy, and it’s expropriation/distortion by Libertarians) a very long thought or two as well.

    Some people here do not appear to be paying attention to what practically matters, revelling instead in what does not.

    ;-)

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 16, 2011 - 3:00 pm | Permalink

      Now I know that most people, when told something like that, do not reason logically through to the required conclusions, so I have repeatedly spelled lots of these out in comments over recent weeks for that very reason. But still, what do we see? We see remarks like the above well over a month later. Why is that?

      Unprovided with original learning, unformed in the habits of thinking, unskilled in the arts of composition, I resolved to write a book.
      ~ Edward Gibbon (1737 – 1794)

      Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and higher education positively fortifies it.
      ~ Stephen Vizinczey, An Innocent Millionaire

      Learning without thought is labor lost; thought without learning is perilous.
      ~ Confucius (551 BC – 479 BC), The Confucian Analects

      Much learning does not teach understanding.
      ~ Heraclitus (540 BC – 480 BC), On the Universe.

    • dc's Gravatar dc
      February 17, 2011 - 6:13 am | Permalink

      I believe that what David is saying is that children cannot be propagandized into desirable behaviour. If this is so then it is a matter of fact, and it is silly to condemn the one who states the fact.
      Personally I believe that David overstates his case a little, perhaps out of temper, and that there is plenty of room for productive parental intervention.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 17, 2011 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

      @ dc …
      The list of quotations on “Learning” I provided above were not directed at David, or intended as a critique of David. They were posted for everyone to mull over, and inspired by David’s earlier question.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      February 18, 2011 - 7:13 am | Permalink

      Is behavior, like IQ, set from birth? David – give me a link.

  5. James's Gravatar James
    February 16, 2011 - 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Bravo Christian, an excellent article.

    My main concern in teaching a White child racial reality is the possibility that they might parrot my teachings in a politically correct environment. i.e. a school. We all know what the consequences of not kow-towing with modern political dogma in an academic environment can be. Even for the very young.

    Do you have any thoughts on how to teach a child to balance this tightrope? To be racially conscious but still not be exempted from good opportunities and training?

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      February 17, 2011 - 9:11 am | Permalink

      Yes, James. Tell the child that in order to protect themselves, they must NOT say what you have taught them. Teach them to watch, and listen. They will ovserve how much they are insulted, and hated. Children are not stupid. They will; see, and hear. This is an excellent way to foment an Us vs. Them perspective in gullible, naive, trusting, loving, naturally sweet White children.

      This works. I know.

      I’ve DONE it.

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      March 21, 2011 - 4:47 pm | Permalink

      I agree. Not protecting your children because you think you will make them vulnerable to the enemy is nonsensical. Teach them who they are. And then teach them to protect themselves.

  6. James's Gravatar James
    February 16, 2011 - 3:11 pm | Permalink

    “Now I know that most people, when told something like that, do not reason logically through to the required conclusions, so I have repeatedly spelled lots of these out in comments over recent weeks for that very reason. But still, what do we see? We see remarks like the above well over a month later. Why is that?”

    No one read your posts anymore.

    You’re a troll.

    Everyone just scrolls down to “thumbs down ” and clicks it.

    • February 16, 2011 - 3:32 pm | Permalink

      James February 16, 2011 – 3:11 pm

      “No one read your posts anymore.

      You’re a troll.

      Everyone just scrolls down to “thumbs down ” and clicks it.”

      So, despite the talk of genomes; despite the evidence repeated here from all those working on genomes in Behavioural Genetics that teaching and raising etc has just about no impact on how kids turn out (so long as one does not physically damage them), you are going to do what exactly?

      You, and others, who say that they agree with this article, are tacit environmentalists (or is it Libertarians?), and yet, your (quite human) scotoma is perhaps something which almost none of you have quite faced up to (I excuse Anglo-Saxon provisionally), despite my efforts to enlighten you. why is that?

      Is this hypocrisy, stupidity, self-deception, or just human intensional opacity?

      Is such behaviour not precisely what many here often have a go at Jews for?

      Has the penny dropped?

    • February 16, 2011 - 10:09 pm | Permalink

      David Longley,

      While I can’t say I’ve understood anything else you’ve said on this site, I agree with the raging you’ve done against the nurture assumption in this thread.

      I’ve read Judith Rich Harris’ works and find them convincing.

      In their hearts people don’t want to believe what she says merely because they want to think parenting has far more impact on how children turn out than the evidence permits.

      Children often turn out like their parents due to genetics, and sometimes because of a shared macro-culture, not because of how the parent raised the child.

      All the evidence points us toward that conclusion.

    • I's Gravatar I
      February 16, 2011 - 11:54 pm | Permalink

      So, despite the talk of genomes; despite the evidence repeated here from all those working on genomes in Behavioural Genetics that teaching and raising etc has just about no impact on how kids turn out (so long as one does not physically damage them), you are going to do what exactly?

      This is stupid and totally nuts. I’ve done a lot of reading about dysfunctional families (and came from one myself), and the evidence that child abuse and other aspects of child rearing have an enormous psychological impact on children is overwhelming.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 1:22 am | Permalink

      Hmm… it’s sort of contra-factual to the notion that Jews can influence the perspective of whites in maladaptive ways, isn’t it?

      Don’t get me wrong, I believe intelligence has a strong genetic component, but I believe that there is a range of accomplishment for everyone which can be affected by the manner and environment in which they are raised.

    • February 17, 2011 - 7:51 am | Permalink

      ” Reginald February 16, 2011 – 10:09 pm
      While I can’t say I’ve understood anything else you’ve said on this site, I agree with the raging you’ve done against the nurture assumption in this thread.”

      Maybe it would be worth your while going back to comments made from early January onwards and working through them? After all, what is the point of just reading what one already understands/believes? My comments have been written to make some people do some work, to think what they currently do not believe. Most people experience that as hard work or unpleasant. For what it’s worth I even linked to some of my early research in the late 70s and early 80s on why that is probably the case, although understanding the mechanism does not make it any easier. Researchers have to learn to live with this uncertainty and novelty. I think it is the sine qua non for original work, which rarely makes one popular at first, in my experience.

      The evidence is, as you rightly say, something which one might have expected more here to take note of what they are saying. It is radical. Most have not grasped its implications at all. They continue to write disengaged narratives. Fiction.

    • February 17, 2011 - 10:06 am | Permalink

      Reginald February 16, 2011 – 10:09 pm
      “I’ve read Judith Rich Harris’ works and find them convincing.”

      Look, what I have been repeatedly telling people here is that this work tends to be done in the biological sciences and THEN some people in psychology, realising that their jobs are at stake as what they have been peddling is all wrong, try to spin what they read as either a ‘discovery’ which they have had, or they try to weight it quite differently to what the evidence really shows. This is what is done. Too many people in psychology don’t know enough science to see it. It’s like industrial espionage. ;-)

      The original ground-breaking work on genes and Shared/Non-Shared Environment was published in 1987 by Plomin and Daniels. This showed that Shared-Environment did not explain individual differences, mainly genes did. Now, what Non-Shared Environment amounts to is moot, but what I have been suggesting is that it is probably not peer influence (which is also social/environmental and you have to look at the dismal failures which I have pointed to in efforts to use the environment to change behaviour in forensic, educational and clinical work to see my substantive point which is being made here) but probably physical knocks, drugs, infections etc impacting upon inherited gene expression which are then emitted as Operant behaviours. People like Judith Rich Harris appropriated, and made a name for herself, like many in psychology are prone to do (females, Jewish people, femimised-brains, what are the frequencies in psychology?). To credit her here is something she wrote with Rowe but it is not original work either as anyone who knows the field of Behaviour Genetics. When I was doing my work on monoamines and neuropeptides (there are geneticists, peptides chemists (who sequenced C-Fragment in the 70s) and many others like that at NIMR, no psychologists!) and operant behaviour at NIMR in the late 70s and early 80s, the guy before me was a Behaviour Geneticist working on operant behaviour in different strains of rats i.e genes affecting 5-HT and operant behaviour. His name was Howard Jackson.

      What research did Harris do on this at the time? Look at the work in Behavioural Genetics, not psychology. Be wary of psychologists having their ‘discoveries’ – I can think of a better name for it. Can you?

      I have tried to draw attention to it. See Miller, Gallanter and Pribram (1960) for a classic. Another is ‘Evolutionary Psychology’. Be sure to listen very carefully to the one hour audio by Skinner from the early 70s, around the time he published Beyond Freedom and Dignity.. Listen to the two at the SEAB site too. They are careful with their words. What do you learn?

      This is quite a major point which I am making as in my view it comes close to being a form of White-Collar (unintentional/unwitting) offending behaviour. venal, but not illegal. Seemingly not unethical either.

      This is the problem with the domain of the intensional. It is a domain of superstitious muddle and conflict which rational, extensional, science tries to replace. Do not be seduced by those who just borrow the language for effect.

    • February 17, 2011 - 11:17 pm | Permalink

      I’ve done a lot of reading about dysfunctional families (and came from one myself), and the evidence that child abuse and other aspects of child rearing have an enormous psychological impact on children is overwhelming.

      Child abuse probably does have a significant impact, at least if it’s bad enough.

      But the evidence that the evidence that other aspects of child rearing have an enormous psychological impact on children is certainly not overwhelming.

      If it’s really having an enormous impact, how do you explain that two unrelated adopted children who grow up in the same household, with the exact same parents raising them, will be no more alike in any measurable trait than two children picked at random?

      No more alike in IQ, no more alike in how they score on personality tests; no more alike in how likely they are to have been incarcerated, etc.

      If you’re responsible enough a parent that you could pass the screening it takes to adopt a child, then it’s very clear that how you raise the child will have no impact on how the child turns out.

      Otherwise two unrelated children raised by the same parents in the same house would be more similar to each other than two children picked at random, and that simply isn’t what the actual scientific data shows.

    • February 17, 2011 - 11:45 pm | Permalink

      Hmm… it’s sort of contra-factual to the notion that Jews can influence the perspective of whites in maladaptive ways, isn’t it?

      Athanasius,

      Not in the form Judith Rich Harris has formulated it.

      If you read her book ‘No Two Alike: Human Nature and Human Individuality’, and I recommend reading it given how well reasoned it is, you’ll see that she does believe culture to have an impact on how children turn out.

      It just is that it is not the culture of the parents which matters, but rather a more general culture inculcated by peers, and to some extent an averaged out version of the many non-parental adults the child interacts with.

      The Jews have had a tremendous influence on the youth culture which socializes White children, and it is through this mechanism that Jewish influence was mostly brought to bear.

      A White child’s parents could have very liberal attitudes inculcated into them by Jews, but if their child goes to a school with a very conservative youth culture, it wouldn’t matter at all.

      Assuming the child didn’t inherit genes predisposing him to liberalism, he’d rebel against his parents to become a conservative.

      In the same way it’s of no actual importance if a White child’s parents have very conservative attitudes, except from a genetic standpoint.

      If the child is sent to a school with a liberal youth culture, the chances are he’ll rebel against what his parents believed.

      This of course is what happened to what’s called the greatest generation. They were actually rather conservative by today’s standards, but they sat on their hands as liberals and Jews in the media and school system constructed a hyper-liberal youth culture that the children of the greatest generation assimilated to.

      It was perfectly natural for these children to assimilate to the youth culture prevalent at the time. What’s wrong is that the culture was turned into something sick right under the noses of their oblivious parents.

      Thus they became the Baby Boomers, the most liberal generation ever seen up to that point in history.

      Now it is the case that even after someone becomes an adult, social mores can have an effect on them.

      But these social mores don’t come directly from parents. They come from the more general culture of the area (in recent times the general culture of the area will find itself supplemented and often overwhelmed by a general culture piped in through distant media sources such as television stations).

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 18, 2011 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

      “No one read your posts anymore. You’re a troll. Everyone just scrolls down to “thumbs down ” and clicks it.” so says James, speaking about David Longley

      Not “everyone”, surely, James. Lots of people are reading David Longley’s posts. And he can in no way be described as a “troll”. That’s just dumb. Not that all of us are agreeing with what he says necessarily, but we read him because that’s why most of us are here – most of us are here to learn by reading new things and exchanging ideas in the comments sections of blogs like this one.

      Of course there are several of this site’s regulars, like you, who aggressively inform the rest of us they scroll down to the thumbs down button and click it before even reading his posts, but for the most part you’re just the defiantly and proudly ignorant ones. (I mean that in the nicest possible way, even though there’s not really a nice way to tell someone they’re ignorant, is there?)

      I’m here to learn about what I don’t know. You appear to come here to have others tell you you’re absolutely right about everything even when you don’t know much.

      That’s okay too. You’re obviously more comfortable with your ignorance than you are learning something new and therefore unsettling. Because that’s the world we live in, isn’t it? Where everything we do has to either make us happy or has to protect us from our designed-in fear of learning more than we can handle?

      In our brave new narcissistic world, it’s ALL about us ALL the time, isn’t it? Of course, based on Mr. Longley’s opinion, backed by the research he has referenced, that fact is part of our genetic programming…

      I’m hesitant to attribute as much of my character’s makeup to my genes as he would have me do because I know how much effort I have put into expanding my own horizons from the narrow place I grew out from. But even so, I can certainly respect the scientific research he’s referenced in his helpful, if disturbing posts because I have clicked the links he has provided and waded through the thick molasses prose contained therein – sticky prose that seems to infect academics of all persuasions. lol

      Once you click on a couple, if you ever do, I’d like you to get back to us if only to tell us if the effort involved in reading facts you may never have been aware of before was able to change any of your preconceived misconceptions. I mean this honestly – I’d like to know if you are capable of changing your mind when faced with the choice between caustic facts and comfortable fictions.

    • February 19, 2011 - 9:33 am | Permalink

      “I February 16, 2011 – 11:54 pm

      “This is stupid and totally nuts. I’ve done a lot of reading about dysfunctional families (and came from one myself), and the evidence that child abuse and other aspects of child rearing have an enormous psychological impact on children is overwhelming.”

      Have you considered the alternative (which better fits the evidence)? Namely, that the dysfunctional behaviour observed in these families (and subsequent generations) is instantiation of genetically expressed behaviours, and that the behaviours of the children is expression of inherited genes? This is why intervention tends not to work.

      This is what the problem of dysgenics (opposed to eugneic, i.e good breeding), differential fertility (skewed birth rates), and ‘apposite allocation’ via more effective behaviour management is all about This is not the same as ‘treatment’ note. It is a mater of finding a place for behaviours which minimize harm all round for the good of society. This is subtle, but it is pragmatic.

  7. fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
    February 16, 2011 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    I know most of us here hate the educational system, but there is literally nothing more important than making sure that white children go to good schools and then get good jobs. They don’t have to believe in the propaganda they are told, but you can’t live a good life without a good job, and you can’t get a good job with a good college degree. People who are poor and uneducated are unhealthier, live shorter lives, and are unhappier. And there are millions of poor whites out there because their families put more importance on things like “honesty” than education.

    It’s an unfortunate reality that money is power. Jews know this, and that’s why they succeed. Jews know that things like “truth,” “honesty,” and “nobility” are too abstract. Are they good advice? Yes, but they are largely impractical in the world. What matters is power, influence, and ethnic cohesion. If we taught those concepts to our kids, we’d be better off than if we simply gave them fairy tales about an idealized past that never existed, where all white men were princes and white women were princesses.

    In short, the idealization needs to stop. Whites need to stop thinking of themselves as kings and titans, and start thinking of themselves as a targeted minority. It may sound contradictory, but I believe if whites had a semblance of an inferiority complex, we’d be much better off. People with inferiority complexes are often the most aggressive and driven. That’s what we need. Thinking of ourselves as inherently better produces no drive to succeed; thinking of ourselves as hated and despised is more realistic, and provides and incentive for us to maintain ethnically pure and succeed.

    • Hal's Gravatar Hal
      February 16, 2011 - 4:19 pm | Permalink

      Absolutely, fender_strat.

      I see they’ve already begun to give you the little “thumbs down”. Ugh.

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 16, 2011 - 4:39 pm | Permalink

      fender_strat,
      Well said and all very true. But remember, the genius of the strategy of the Jewish People is that they implicitly understand seismic changes in society are created by attacking on multiple fronts in multiple, often contradictory, ways. Jewish individuals manage to further Jewish interests regardless of whether they are arguing for or against a given issue, regardless of whether they are atheist, communist, anarchist, libertarian, etc.
      So don’t feel that because what you have said is right, another different strategy is wrong, even if it flies in the face of all reason, even if it contradicts everything you say. None of that matters. You don’t matter. I don’t matter. What you believe doesn’t matter. Being patted on the head doesn’t matter. What matters, the only thing that matters, is whether it is good for the Whites in their struggle. What we all need to do is learn to understand that while ‘what is good for the whites’ is apparently easy to see, in practice it is changed and molded by the circumstances facing the whites and the forces set against them and what can and what cannot be achieved, and what stage the battle is at. This can make the truth of what is good for the whites on any given issue, very counter intuitive. The genius of the Jewish People is that they use their religion and rabbis to be almost the ‘scientists’ of what is good for the Jews. They are like sages who sit and work through all the complex interactions in their minds and this allows them to provide guidance and this is part of their secret. We need sages just like that too. We need people to start thinking intensely about what it means to be asking the question ‘what is good for the whites’.

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      February 17, 2011 - 9:07 am | Permalink

      Fender – you are not connected to reality. Whereas I think it’s critical to be well-educated – Whites ARE NOT GOING TO GET “GOOD JOBS”, as non-Whites take over various fields of endeavor. Jews, and theri Swarthy factotums – are NOT GOING TO ALLOW WHITES TO OBTAIN MONEY=POWER.
      Have ya read any of the material on South Africa? Any of it?

      The Race Traitor Whites, the “good, kind, Liberal, right-thinking Whites”, were the willing dupes of the Jews that used Blacsk to displacve them These types of Whites were, and are, the most virulent, vociferous, and treacherous people working AGINST their own kind.

      These Traitors were awarded jobs, and prestige, but have now been purged from (false) power, and position, and money, now that Black Rule is firmly established. This is happening in the USA, and Westenr Europe NOW.

      We need to develop our own system. NOW. We must create some sort of White money=power/means of being. We have to create our OWN closed systems. Do you understand?

  8. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 16, 2011 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Comrade Longley:
    I’m thinking intensional opacity.
    Basically, you are saying we need more smart white folks who support communitarianism.
    It took me reading a lot of your posts to surmise that.
    So, tell me if I’m right.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 17, 2011 - 2:07 pm | Permalink

      @ Scooter …
      David Longley has properly exposed several flaws in our ‘group’ behaviour and thinking. We should applaud him for that.

      One of the things he has pointed to is our over-reliance on individualism and ‘freedom’ (both driven by narcissism).

      To redress the balance, what he is saying is that we must adopt a sense of community. Communitarianism is simply fanciful (social sciences) terminology used to describe a top down enforcement of a sense of non-racial “community”, which became popular within Brussels and Strasbourg (i.e., the European Union) several years ago.

      Currently, almost every Public Services manager in the UK and elsewhere in Europe are required to attend EU sponsored courses on Communitarianism.

      Instead, and in contrast, what we here at TOO should be aiming for is the advancement of a Race-based Communitarianism. Which is somewhat different, and is by definition at loggerheads with anything that might receive official endorsement from the EU, or from anyone in Foggy Bottom and Manhattan, et al.

      I hope I have clarified the verbal puzzle for you and others!

    • February 17, 2011 - 3:21 pm | Permalink

      “Instead, and in contrast, what we here at TOO should be aiming for is the advancement of a Race-based Communitarianism. Which is somewhat different, and is by definition at loggerheads with anything that might receive official endorsement from the EU, or from anyone in Foggy Bottom and Manhattan, et al.”

      More significantly, it would be ILLEGAL under EU and British law. It may be illegal under US Civil Rights law too. Can you provide us with some evidence/links on these Communitarian courses to which you refer, because as I’d read the Lisbon Treaty and the Human Rights articles, they endorse Libertarianism, not Communitarianism. if you mean Human Rights courses etc, those seem to serve a Libertarian agenda by stealth as I keep saying. It’s most insidiously done if I am right, as it targets the Public Sector.

      I’d be happy to be corrected on this, as I’d read the USA and its EU Project (along with its Post WWII Eastern client states like Japan, Singapore and S.Korea etc) as having little truck with Communitarianism. As I have said elsewhere, my main concern is that empirically this seems to be counter (re)productive, which in turn has led to increased compensatory immigration, race, sex and diversity legislation, dysgenesis, and so on, i.e one great, self-destructive, self-perpetuating, anarchistic circle. :-(

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 18, 2011 - 7:14 am | Permalink

      @ David …

      Can you provide us with some evidence/links on these Communitarian courses to which you refer, because as I’d read the Lisbon Treaty and the Human Rights articles, they endorse Libertarianism, not Communitarianism.

      You may have been lied to David, or deceived in some other way. Communitarianism is being implemented (enforced?) throughout the EU, via jobsworths, through the EU indoctrination system known as Common Purpose. It appears to have been modeled on the old East German (Stasi) system.

      Here is evidence of the “Common Purpose” training courses being implemented by the EU Commissars in Britain (and Internationally):

      http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/
      http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/courses
      http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/courses/early-career/international-navigator
      http://www.commonpurpose.org/what/leadership-courses

      OVERVIEW:
      Common Purpose is a fraudulent ‘educational charity’ acting as a change agent being used to recruit and train the commissars and apparatchiks needed to implement the British government’s hidden New World Order communitarian agenda.

      See: http://www.stopcp.com/cpbreachesthesevenprinciples.php
      See: http://www.cpexposed.com/

      In order to understand what is happening in Britain in the 2010s, you need to know about four things:
      1. The New World Order;
      2. The United Nations Agenda 21 Sustainable Development Plan;
      3. A political philosophy called ‘communitarianism’;
      4. A fake charity named “Common Purpose”.

      Source of list: http://www.stopcp.com/cpmindmap.php

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 18, 2011 - 7:24 am | Permalink

      @ David …
      I have responded to your request. But, my comment has been held back for “Moderation” as it contains several URLs linking to other websites. Should be in view here, hopefully, by about 5 or 6 pm GMT.

  9. Justin Huber's Gravatar Justin Huber
    February 16, 2011 - 3:57 pm | Permalink

    White children should also be taught that their is nothing wrong with doing manual labor or pursuing a career that requires manual labor. Physical fitness should be emphasized as well. In a more ideal world/whites only state there should be some sort of mandatory military service as well.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 16, 2011 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

      Physical fitness is very important, but we should also teach them to think and not waste hours at a time on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon watching overpaid, thuggish men kick around a pigskin or toss a basketball for more money in a year than most will see in their entire lives.

      Yes! to “A sound mind in a sound body.” But, No! to “Bread and circuses” which wasting hours watching professional sports is part of.

    • fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
      February 16, 2011 - 5:14 pm | Permalink

      “White children should also be taught that their is nothing wrong with doing manual labor or pursuing a career that requires manual labor.”

      No, you see this is exactly the kind of stuff we shouldn’t be teaching our kids. You want our kids laboring nine hours a day while Jews and Asians sit in comfortable offices getting all the money? We seriously need to stop pretending that manual labor is somehow more honorable than knowledge-based work. Jews got to where they are today because they bred themselves to be intellectuals and not slaves.

      We need to teach our kids that manual labor is beneath us, that all of the great people we admire- Shakespeare, Neitzsche, Plato, DaVinci, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, etc.- were not laborers, they were creative thinkers. That’s where our strengths are: thought and creativity. Creation in general.

      I’m not opposed to physical strength- in fact I think regular exercise is integral to living a good life- but we need to stop teaching our kids that manual labor makes them more honorable than bankers or media moguls. That’s nonsense; that will keep our people in a perpetual state of slavery while Jews and Asians run everything.

      Stop thinking about what’s “honorable” and start thinking about what will give us power in the media, academia, and law. Physicality means nothing in an information-driven world.

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 16, 2011 - 6:58 pm | Permalink

      @ fender strat

      We need to teach our kids that manual labor is beneath us, that all of the great people we admire- Shakespeare, Neitzsche, Plato, DaVinci, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, etc.- were not laborers, they were creative thinkers. That’s where our strengths are: thought and creativity.

      That’s precisely what we Jews have been doing ever since we took over America. Who sets up and mans the most influential think tanks? The Jews!

      Who tells America what to think in the daily press and on TV? Who writes the best books that get to the top of the NYT’s bestseller list? Who are the critics who praise the books? The Jews!

      Who plans all the wars and gets others to die in them? The Jews!

      Throughout history, Jews have avoided the indignity of manual labor.

      We do the thinking, you the stinking. That’s how it should be. Leave the thinking to us, okay? We’re good at it. We’ve got what it takes. The brain power. The IQ.

      The average American is a moron.

      If it were not so, how come 60 million morons have been so easily persuaded to love Israel in preference to America?

      I refer to the Christian Zionists.

      Tell me, dear friends: when you get your White Utopia, where are you going to put these sixty million morons?

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 16, 2011 - 7:29 pm | Permalink

      One question I’d like someone to answer is this. You guys go on about the evils of muticulturalism and how America is going to the dogs because of unrestricted immigration, legal as well as illegal. And you trace all this back to the 1965 Immigration Act.

      It’s that Act that opened the floodgates.

      So tell me: WHY DID YOU PERMIT IT?

      We Jews, who were behind the Act, knowing full well that this Act would one day spell your doom, were less than 2 percent of America’s population at that time. And yet we got our way against the other 98 per cent.

      How come?

      If you’re so smart, why didn’t you stop us?

      You were asleep at the wheel, right?

      Most White Americans are somnambulists. Walking zombies. Barely awake. Like sheep on their way to the slaughterhouse.

      So where were you in 1965 when the Immigration Act was passed, those of you who were alive and kicking in those days? Too busy chasing skirt, right? and preparing for the Summer of Love?

      It’s even worse today.

      Most Americans, including you, seem to believe that you live in a democracy and that you can change the world by placing your vote in the appropriate ballot box.

      You know only too well you’re never going to change the world by voting: for all you ever got by voting is either an old scoundrel or a new one — each of them taking his orders from a wily Jew.

      The wise know this: that America is a cryptofascist state masquerading as a democracy.

      My advice to you: don’t vote. Fight. But make sure you can win first.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 16, 2011 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

      The answer to Miriam’s question boils down to this: High levels of trust bordering on naivete. The US was a very high trust society with high levels of cooperation. It was ripe to be gamed by an aggressive minority that was willing to violate that trust.

      It’s like those scenarios in game theory where a selfish non-cooperator is introduced and able to run amuck – at least for a while. Let’s be honest, it’s not like something similar hasn’t happened before with Jewish populations and a large host population (Spain, Germany, Poland, Russia, etc.). Eventually the larger society catches on and there is a counter reaction.

    • I's Gravatar I
      February 17, 2011 - 1:24 am | Permalink

      Stop thinking about what’s “honorable” and start thinking about what will give us power in the media, academia, and law.

      Yep. I’d throw business/entrepreneurship in there too.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 9:36 am | Permalink

      Regarding the Immigration Act. For starters, there were some Jews in Congress who affected it directly (Cellar, Javits). I think psychologically, people were rich, just about anyone who could save up the money and pass the exam could go to medical school or Harvard, and it was during the tail end of the baby boom. The country was 88% white, and most people could imagine it any other way. So when you get some bleeding hearts like Ted Kennedy talking about fairness and giving his solemn word in the Senate that the law wouldn’t change the racial makeup of the country, most people probably didn’t see the significance of it.

      What REALLY galls me is how they intentionally created a shortage of doctors and then recruited doctors from India and Pakistan. I personally know Pakistani doctors who’ve told me that they were invited to this country while in med school. Who came up with this plan? Who authorized it?

    • Armor's Gravatar Armor
      February 17, 2011 - 4:06 pm | Permalink

      Athanasius: “What REALLY galls me is how they intentionally created a shortage of doctors and then recruited doctors from India and Pakistan.”

      I think a similar situation exists in France and Great-Britain. It has to be a deliberate policy, it cannot be put down to government incompetence.

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      February 19, 2011 - 11:20 am | Permalink

      fender strat said:
      ” We seriously need to stop pretending that manual labor is somehow more honorable than knowledge-based work. Jews got to where they are today because they bred themselves to be intellectuals and not slaves.”

      I’m afraid I disagree with this statement on many different levels.

      The Fender Strat is truly a great guitar, but Leo Fender didn’t design it to be built by skilled artisans. He designed it so that it could be built by common factory workers who had no experience as luthiers. Similar situation for the Model T, the Colt revolver and on and on. Products like these created great wealth in our society.

      One of the reasons we have a massive illegal immigration problem is because affluent people, most of them white, can’t be bothered with mowing their own grass, building their own patios or raising their own children. It’s beneath them. I used to see mostly whites (and some blacks) on public works road maintenance crews. Now, at least in my area, it seems most of them are Hispanic. This is troubling.

      Building or constructing things is part of our heritage. Some of the great ship designers of the 17th-19th century started out as apprentices using draw knives. The reason Europeans were good at designing things is because they were good at building things. To lose this aspect of our culture is to go the way of the Roman Empire. Want to guarantee an even greater non-white, non-native population? Make “grunt work” less appealing to the privileged than it already is.

      As for jews, it troubles me when good folks among us sometimes look to them as a role model for what we should be. We sometimes start to think that jews have absolutely nothing going against them. In truth, affluence works it’s delusional and destructive magic on them just like anyone else. (See Scooter’s great post below.)

  10. Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
    February 16, 2011 - 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Great, great article. Now if we can only reach a consensus on how to effectively attack those things…

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 16, 2011 - 4:32 pm | Permalink

      We took the first step, recognizing the problem, long ago. We’re now just taking the next step, freely discussing the matter, which the internet has made possible.

  11. February 16, 2011 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

    I also think this is an excellent article, particularly, “Society, civilzation, and nation must be understood as historical expressions of racial stock”.

  12. February 16, 2011 - 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Scooter February 16, 2011 – 3:50 pm

    “I’m thinking intensional opacity.

    Basically, you are saying we need more smart white folks who support communitarianism.

    It took me reading a lot of your posts to surmise that.
    So, tell me if I’m right.”

    Partly.

    If Operant (voluntary) behaviour is emitted at rates, and those behaviours are the expression of inherited genes selected by Natural Selection and those behaviours are reinforced by their consequences; given that the work from Twin Studies in Behavioural Genetics now shows that Shared Environment does not significantly impact upon how kids turn out, do you now see that all of the environmentalist psychology which has been peddled for decades must be ineffectual nonsense? It does not, (i.e can not), do what its peddlers claim it does on the tin.

    This has very important practical implications for economic and social policy, not just the academics in the social ‘sciences’. What I am saying here (and I am not alone) explains why programmes designed to have an intervention effect in education, clinical and forensic practice universally do not work (aside from apposite allocation, which is subtle behaviour selection and management requiring skills in Behaviour Analysis).

    I did say that this message was radical and that you and other here will need to spend some more time working through what has been posted, as I have been spelling some of this out for some time and it has all been missed by most. People need to behave verbally in a very different way in order to avoid writing and talking (well meaning but non-efficacious) superstitious intensional hot air.

    As to your question, that is the way most Governments work, They recruit able people do they not? They do not erode their own states in favour of free-markets. That seems to kill populations off (cf. below replacement level TFRs across the Libertarian Democracies East and West), and it especially kills of the more able ones in those populations (Differential/Dysgenic Fertility via liberating bright females).

    These are the demographic facts.

  13. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 16, 2011 - 5:13 pm | Permalink

    I agree with everything Mr. Miller said. But am very troubled by what he didn’t say, how did a great race allow itself to commit suicide…literally!
    The answer is not as simple as black vs. white or Jew vs. Gentile. While race and religion are powerful historical influences, there is one that is even more powerful that he, and virtually everyone else ignores…sex..without which, we would not be having this discussion. The white race faces an existential threat because of…sex. Blacks could not breed with whites without ..sex
    The Jews could not sell it in hollywood without…sex
    And white men would not care what color their offspring are were it not for the all-consuming passion to pass on their genes by having…sex!….SEX!
    One can not claim “equality” of the sexes on the one hand and claim inequality of the races on the other. It just don’t wash. There is more difference between a man and a woman than the difference in any two men. ie. men share more physical and mental traits with other men than with any woman. thus if men and women (who, in case you haven’t noticed, are physically OPPOSITE) are “equal” then it naturally follows to one who worships the false god of “equality” that black and white are also “equal” To entertain the thought that men and women are equal but black and white are not is just silly. And creates a very stressful state of cognitive dissonance (emotional conflict)
    This is why we are doomed as long as we continue to worship the artificial social construct of equality. Please let it go! There is no such thing as equality except in the science of mathematics!
    And where did this stupid idea of equality originate? The first and most critical was in the Declaration of Independance (not in the constitution) “All men are created equal” This set us up to be pursuaded by Big Brother that all men are the SAME and should be TREATED equal.
    The second is modernity (machines) when men and women no longer have biologically assigned roles in society and as a direct consequence of this are forced to compete..not with…But AGAINST each other for the same jobs (roles) it becomes increasingly difficult to view the sexes as anything other than “equal”
    Bottom line. It matters not what you teach your kids unless you address the false God of equality..As long as women are free to date black men they will do so, as long as men are free do date white women they will do so.
    In order to change the behaviour of people you must first change the laws, not the other way around.
    The Declaration of Independance should be changed to read “All men are created equal BEFORE A BOLT OF LIGHTENING!….not each other!

    • Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
      February 16, 2011 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

      Henry
      I don’t think we have a real difference about how we view men and women, just semantics. I say men and women are equal in some sense pretty hard to define, but that doesn’t mean I think women should be drafted and stuck in combat ect.. What I’ve tried to say is that each sex has it’s own strengths. With men it’s physical, with women it’s essentially femininity. Obviously I believe their roles should be ones which use their strengths. I would never have told my daughter she was not “equal” to my son, nor would I have forbidden some interest on the basis of sex. I’m happy to say she’s a very satisfied 50 year old housewife, and don’t dare say in front of her that’s she’s “just” a housewife. But she knows very well that femininity is where her power is just as she relies on the masculine strength of her husband.

  14. February 16, 2011 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

    “Raising Healthy White Children in a Subversive Environment”

    That subversive environment :- heads-up it’s currently Libertarian. It’s the (largely unwitting) mass-action of people such as most of those posting and reading articles and comments to blogs such as this in fact.

    I thought some of you really ought to take this on-board, as it’s not at all obvious to many here – they’re far too self-centred (arrested developed) to see it.

    Anarchistic subversion was essentially the route to the American Dream. Competition and getting ahead. Those behind it waged a Cold War against the alternative, calling it all sorts of names, for over four decades!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 16, 2011 - 7:41 pm | Permalink

      The United States had a much more libertarian system from 1776 until FDR … a run of over 150 years. And during that time the US generally served the interests of Whites.

      “Libertarianism” or “Anarchism” is not the core problem.

    • February 16, 2011 - 8:04 pm | Permalink

      “Jason Speaks February 16, 2011 – 7:41

      “The United States had a much more libertarian system from 1776 until FDR … a run of over 150 years. And during that time the US generally served the interests of Whites.

      “Libertarianism” or “Anarchism” is not the core problem.”

      What if you are wrong?

      Americans once prided themselevs for their safe and caring communities. See Kevin MAcDonald’s interview on life in the 50s. It was much the same in the UK.

      In the last 40 years or so the USA and UK has been destroying them. Rolling back the nanny-state in favour of individualism and privatisation – extolling narcissism. Most older people despise the “me me me” generation and do-nothing anarchistic politicians for destroying all that was built, and those older, wiser people, are of all colours and faiths.

      Before WWI the USA was isolationist. That changed dramatically after WWII. People such as yourself appear to be determined to turn the USA into a land which cultivates domestic racial hatred whilst exporting conflcit under the guide of Libertarianism/anarchism in the eyes of much of the world abroad. Not very smart given that you have a shrinking White population, will be a minority at home after 2050, and that the minority will not be all that smart relative to the otger groups given that most of the people not having kids are the smarter people.

      Still, you keep giving what I point out the thumbs down abuse. Just remmeber though – that’s precisely how an idiocracy destroys itself.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 16, 2011 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

      Americans prided themselves on safe and caring communities from 1776 up until the 1950s. That period had dramatically less government intervention, nanny-state control and welfare benefits then we do today. Having a very small government did not harm the ability of Americans to have safe, caring, cohesive communities.

      The last 40+ years has not seen a rollback in the size and scope of government in the US. It has seen a massive increase in government, especially non-military government spending and control. Before 1930 US gov’t spending was less than 10% of GDP, usually a lot less. After FDR it increased to approximately 20% (excluding WWII). After 1950 it steadily rose from 20 to the current 40 percent. So the period of less cohesion, less cooperation, less compassion, actually coincided with the dramatic upticks in federal spending and controls.

    • February 17, 2011 - 7:08 am | Permalink

      Jason Speaks February 16, 2011 – 8:38 pm

      “Americans prided themselves on safe and caring communities from 1776 up until the 1950s. That period had dramatically less government intervention, nanny-state control and welfare benefits then we do today.”

      If you look back through your history, states and cities took a much tougher line on people who broke the law or even social mores. People were shot, hung etc. People who violated social mores were made to feel very unwanted. There was much more social cohesion. That was sacrificed for individualism, for getting ahead.

      This partly resulted from alienation which came with mass urbanisation and population growth as people flocked to, and/or had lots of kids in, industrial cities, but also because of dysgenic breeding and differential fertility.

      You are not paying attention to the domestic and international geopolitical trend data I have referred to. Why?

      “Having a very small government did not harm the ability of Americans to have safe, caring, cohesive communities.”

      You had a much smaller population and it was dispersed across many states. You now have a much larger population which is more skewed in ability and wealth. The wealth gap is much bigger. You need to study the ETS material and stop arguing for a while.

      “The last 40+ years has not seen a rollback in the size and scope of government in the US. It has seen a massive increase in government, especially non-military government spending and control.”

      Then you do not know what has been really going on in the USA and UK over the last 40 years. Go back and see how Reagan’s Administration PRIVATISED (and Thatcher’s). This is how the state is rolled back. The Public Sector shrinks relative to the Private Sector. Legislation is passed which makes work in the Public Sector harder (Human/Civil Rights FOI etc targets Public Sector workers relative to the Private, which facilitates privatisation is just one point I have been drawing attention to, and it is subtle.

      Regulations on business, especially financial services have been made more lax (see 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall). What I am telling you is a fact. If you look at the UK and EU it is the same. We get Governments, but their legislation is Libertarian. Just look at the EU Lisbon Treaty and its 53 Articles comprising the Human Rights charter. It is business and individual orientated. It hammers the Public Sector workers (equality legislation hog ties). Including universities in the UK which are still mainly in the Public Sector.

      “Before 1930 US gov’t spending was less than 10% of GDP, usually a lot less. After FDR it increased to approximately 20% (excluding WWII). After 1950 it steadily rose from 20 to the current 40 percent.”

      But this was due to Libertarianism, and the Depression which came from it. You just need to look at the debt today to see what it was based on. The US people are now paying with their jobs to bail out banks and their feckless money supply expanding behaviour. Go and look up the NYC demographics I repeatedly linked to back in January. It was they who peddled liars loans (to whom) and credit cards to those who could never really afford to borrow but could not work out why. US debt is based on borrowing to sustain Libertarianism, not Statism. It sold the (largely securitized) debt abroad to countries like China.

      The USA’s foreign policy across the world undermines Statism. It is hardly likely to build statism at home is it? What you see as Government is a means to keep regulation at a bear minimum. We have anarchistic governments. You need to think about what the USA foments elsewhere. It foments grass-roots democracy aka anarchism (see North Africa and the Middle East). It does not facilitate Big Government does it? It facilitates freedom, choice, free-markets. Deregulation not state control.

      These comments are not, it may surprise you, a personal value judgement in favour of Statism and against Libertarianism. They are a concerned explication of the empirical dire consequences of mass behaviours under Libertarianism driven by data trends. My work on this began after years of work in major controlled environments. We saw the dire consequences in microcosm.

      Don’t thumbs down the messenger. It just reinforces idiocracy and anarchism.

    • February 17, 2011 - 9:15 am | Permalink

      Jason Speaks February 16, 2011 – 8:38 pm

      “The last 40+ years has not seen a rollback in the size and scope of government in the US.”>/blockquote>

      Put aside your beliefs for a while and listen to what an ex Civil Servant (who has worked in Central Government) is telling you. You can always go back to what you once believed if it does not fit the facts. I am not an academic, I am an applied professional who was employed in Government for many yeats.

      Libertarian/Conservative regimes (the status quo across our democracies since WWII more of less – Old Labour wa an anomaly) pass legislation which rolls back the state (which did exist) by passing laws and instructing Public Sector administrators to adopt free-market polcies, thus facilitating privatisation. I fthey do not do so they are replaced. That is what such Governments do. It works whether you vote in a left or right party as they are centrist across the Liberal-Democracies (think a U – they are moderate – hence intertia in domestic governance). Senior Civil Servants are selected to facilitate this. It is just how things work. I am really just drawing attention to some of the consequences we are now seeing. I am not going to argue with you about what I know has been policy, as I have had to help implement such policy. I am telling you what the cost is.

  15. Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
    February 16, 2011 - 7:42 pm | Permalink

    How find the Truth? Well, there one easy way: in vino veritas. Trouble is, I can never find my bottle opener.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 17, 2011 - 8:46 am | Permalink

      I thought Mogen David and Manischewitz had screw caps.

    • Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
      February 17, 2011 - 6:21 pm | Permalink

      hey, Miriam, I responded to your comment.

  16. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 16, 2011 - 8:31 pm | Permalink

    Miriam:

    You are a humorous little JAP, I like reading your posts. Allow me a counterpoint as was in the business of fixing German cars, which are naturally superior to American and asian cars, as I’m sure you will agree (lol). Many jews owned them, and they were at my mercy. They thought they were getting over on me, and that they were smarter than me. I let them think that as I lined my pockets with the money that now lets me sit here, retired, as jostle back and forth with people on the internet. They took cars that their jew repair shops couldn’t fix to me! I’d then make them wait, and make them pay. They even referred other tribesters to me. So maybe you people aren’t as smart as you think you are by eschewing manual labor. When society breaks down, I can fix my own stuff, and I and my white brothers can keep the tanks and airplanes and submarines moving. Some mexicans and asians can do it, even the occasional negro, but it is mostly white boys like me, especially for the high end work. You just never know what we are wiring into the walls of your homes.

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 17, 2011 - 4:57 am | Permalink

      You can’t win

      @ scooter

      Point accepted. But aren’t you an exception, Scooter? Most goyim are NOT working as plumbers and car mechanics who can “keep the Jew waiting” and screw a little extra money out of him.

      Three points weaken your argument considerably:

      (1) We Jews are well aware you try and cheat us if you can. But (a) how can you cheat us if you don’t know we ARE Jews? if we remain in crypsis? (b) Since most goyim are conditioned to regard anti-Semitism as the ultimate sin, cheating the Jew is only likey to take place if the goy is an avowed anti-Semite.

      (2) Most Jews have more money than they know what to do with. They can AFFORD to be cheated if someone short-changes them in a bakery, or if a car mechanic charges them double or even triple the going rate. It’s no big deal. A Jew who offers $5 million as a donation to an art gallery isn’t going to curl up and die if a garage charges him $500 extra for mending his tyres!

      (3) However much you goyim may succeed in cheating us Jews in small ways, by upping our plumbing or electrician bills, your cheating can NEVER compare with the vast financial scams we pull on you ALL THE TIME!

      The Madoff scandal alone led to a huge transfer of wealth from gentile pockets to Jewish ones. This is the money that talks — the money that matters.

      Being short-changed in a drugstore by a cheating shiksa counter assistant, or being charged twice the going rate for mending a Jewish kid’s bicycle puncture, is not going to disturb the equanimity of us filthy rich Jews!

      The money you steal from the hip pocket of the Jew, he steals it back a million times over in the bank, in the stock market, in the real estate office.

      You can’t win, buster. You better give up. We are the Champion Cheaters.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 18, 2011 - 6:05 pm | Permalink

      Scooter said: “You just never know what we are wiring into the walls of your homes.”

      Point and match.

      …but look what “they” wired into the walls of the TwinTowers AND building #7?

      Some Jews are pretty handy.

  17. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 16, 2011 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Comrade Longley:
    I agree, the fifties were much better for good communities. The heyday of American freedom in my mind, but we differ on that.
    I guess the rest of what you are saying is what Christians like myself would refer to as Calvinism of a sort. Our free choice is almost nil and our genes are our destiny. Blacks can’t help that they rape and rob and pillage on a grand scale, anymore than jews can stop themselves from being dislikable money grubbing bastards, because it is genetically controlled. Once we accept the inevitable, we should exercise what little choice we have, and breed superior white people to elevate the world. Am I getting warmer?

    • February 17, 2011 - 5:56 am | Permalink

      Scooter February 16, 2011 – 8:38 pm

      “Our free choice is almost nil and our genes are our destiny. Blacks can’t help that they rape and rob and pillage on a grand scale, anymore than jews can stop themselves from being dislikable money grubbing bastards, because it is genetically controlled. Once we accept the inevitable, we should exercise what little choice we have, and breed superior white people to elevate the world. Am I getting warmer?”

      Did you get to the ones which repeatedly pointed out that Some(x)=Not(all(x) and that All(x)=Not(Some(x)), where Some(x)=At_Least_One(x)?

      Some and All are the existential and universal quantifiers in mathematical logic and language. They are key to reference and reasoning (and extensional quantitative scientific analysis, although many will not know this even though it is a sine qua non. Quine was a logician ( of language)).

      Now, how have you decided what makes ‘the blacks’ rape and ‘the Jews’ money grubbing?

      Are there any rapists who Jewish and who are not money grubbing, or are there any blacks who are not rapists but who are money-grubbing etc? If so, what are the relative frequencies?

      Do you see how important and precarious the referent is when CLASS ascripting by phenotype (i.e. quantifying in) and how class (group) conflict easily arises when one gets this wrong, or are you not into discrimination?

  18. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 16, 2011 - 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Mr Speaks:

    Here here well done! You nailed it.

  19. Bohemianh's Gravatar Bohemianh
    February 16, 2011 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    I find watching tv or movies fun to pick out the jewish actors, and the magical negro. Often the negro is presented as the right hand of the main character which without some natural insight or help? The hero would not be able to suceed. So often the jews pretend to be WASP’s or not jewish, however the big lower lips, shape of skull, black hair, eyes, nose and facial features of a rat are hard to miss, then their is always the names, lately they don’t even change them. I older films the last name is changed to seem European, plain, or exciting. Cartoons I would say are th most devastating as the child has no idea of what is coming into their head. Just being programmed.

  20. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 16, 2011 - 9:28 pm | Permalink

    White awake: I have explained already that there is NO SUCH THING AS EQUALITY!….if it exists in the rhelm of human experience then logic dictates that Black and white are equal, genious and fool are equal, men and women, young and old, ugly and beautiful, etc. Otherwise, the term “equality” is just a meaningless political cliche.
    Indeed, that is all it is.
    Let me try to conceptualize it by using different words; A woman is just as good as a man but not “equal” to him. IF she were, she would (BE) him.
    Now it is possible to speak of equality in mathematical terms ie. So and so has equal POWER to whatshisface, men have more POWER than women, or men and women have equal POWER, or blacks have achieved greater POWER than whites. but this is not equality Why? because there is NO SUCH THING! Your daughter is not “equal” to you or anyone else, because equality is a mathematical term. You may VALUE your daughter equally as yourself, or place a greater VALUE on her than on any person on earth, yourself included. But that is not equality, that is love ie. if she were equal then by definition you would think no more of her than a stranger…unless of course she is equal to some but not others, which shatters what little meaning the “equalitarians” attach to the word,
    Finally, I would very much like to hear your answer to this question:… Equal to whom??

    • European's Gravatar European
      February 16, 2011 - 10:38 pm | Permalink

      @ Henry B,
      May I suggest a Book, “Against Democracy and Equality” The European New Right, by Tominslaw Sunic
      It is a good read, you may get something useful out of it and draw your own conclusions.

  21. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 16, 2011 - 9:40 pm | Permalink

    WhiteAwake:
    PS, A women has as much VALUE as a man even if she has no RIGHTS at all. Because VALUE is of the creator (Nature, God) But RIGHTS are things that men give out and pass around, sell, legislate, etc….they mean nothing to God

    • Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
      February 16, 2011 - 10:07 pm | Permalink

      I think you’ve found our common ground with your last comment, Henry. “Value” works for me as well as equal. I suppose I’ve just gotten used to these times where value and equality are used pretty much interchangeably.

  22. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    February 16, 2011 - 9:54 pm | Permalink

    “a White child must be raised to exhibit White behavior: to strive towards truth, honor, and a virtuous life.”

    In fact, non-whites can be virtuous too. I agree that racial loyalty is an essential virtue, but what makes us white is our ancestry, not our virtuous behavior. Even if we like to think that white people are morally superior, a white man with shaky morals is still a white man, and not necessarily a race traitor.

    “miscegenation demonstrates its own underlying depravity—destroying what one loves or admires.”

    Most white people who marry non-whites are hypocrites. They seem to say that race doesn’t matter, but still want to live in white society.


    I wonder if there are textbooks or websites that can help WN parents teach their kids about race. I didn’t find much on Google.

    • Boudicca's Gravatar Boudicca
      February 17, 2011 - 12:34 am | Permalink

      Start with these two:

      Erectus Walks Among Us

      http://tinyurl.com/kq3gx6

      And

      March of the Titans

      http://tinyurl.com/5jcqlj

      Happy Reading

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 17, 2011 - 8:52 am | Permalink

      A good place to start for any child – for any educated person – to exhibit good behaviour is to stop speaking n****r. To hear a child raised by good, hard-working parents speaking like someone who doesn’t know who his real daddy is disgusting.

  23. Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
    February 16, 2011 - 11:47 pm | Permalink

    I think racial mixing is the most insidious threat we face at this time. Whenever I journey to one of the surrounding shopping centers in the poorer suburbs of town, I see 3 to 4 mixed race couples or children. Our genetic capital is the most precious, because unlike abstractions such as “elite positions” or wealth, talent cannot be bought. Our not so distant ancestors had a folk awareness of this principle. In Amy Chua’s “World on Fire” she describes how white aristocrats in South America would by preference marry their daughters to penniless young men “right off the boat” from Spain rather than even wealthy men born in South American. Why? Because they could be sure that the young man directly from Spain had pure white blood. They understood that genetic capital is more priceless than any worldly possession.
    Ever notice how Spain and Portugal once ruled the world in the early modern period, but subsequently contributed very little to Europe’s Rennaissance? In “Understanding Human History” Michael Hart takes a stab at explaining this phenomenon. Portugal and Spain were, of course, overrun by Arabs and North Africans. But they didn’t have firm rules for differentiating white from non-white, ie. the offspring of a mixed union would be considered white, thus creating a “dilutional” effect in the gene pool, as he terms it. By contrast, the mores in Northern Europe and England stipulate that the offspring of a mixed union is again non-white. Recently, John Derbyshire in one of his articles linked to a map showing the geographic distribution of the origins of mathematicians. Lo and behold, there was almost a complete vacuum in the Iberian peninsula, precisely in keeping with Hart’s argument! I note a similar effect in southern Italy, also overrun with southern groups.
    The threat is highly insidious, I emphasize, because the offspring of such unions will have a higher percentage of outliers able to achieve elite status, thus enhancing their desirability to whites. This will create an oiling or accelerating effect of genetic mixing and dilution. It’s really pathetic that we’ve fallen so far as a people that we need an Asian and a Jew to point out to us what our forefathers took to be self evident!

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 17, 2011 - 5:30 am | Permalink

      On race defilement

      @ Gray Prince

      Eloquently argued, Gray Prince. Keep the stock pure. Avoid mixing. Don’t hop into bed with blacks. Shun the Jew. Keep the Asian at arm’s length. Marry White and produce mathematicians and musicians galore.

      So how come it’s not working?

      How come, with all these White genes at your disposal, you’ve been unable to win the race war?

      How come you weren’t smart enough to take remedial steps against multiculturalism? How come you fell for the 1965 Immigration Act?

      Tell me, Gray Prince. If White genes are so priceless, how come they’ve got you into this sticky little corner where you are wringing your hands and wailing, “Help! get us out of this mess!”

      Something doesn’t add up.

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 17, 2011 - 5:33 am | Permalink

      Anyway, you can’t put the genie back in the bottle.

      Miscegnation and racial mixing have had their way and your gene pool is already “polluted” beyond repair, just as the ocean is horribly polluted off the Gulf of Mexico.

      The Gulf can be “cleaned up”, but can your gene pool be cleaned up when it is being diluted every day by the influx of foreign bloods?

      Only one thing will save you, but I prefer not to mention what it is — lest I be accused of “incitement to violence”.

      Suffice it to say, Gray Prince, that you and your kind should give serious thought to the old proverb: DRASTIC REMEDIES FOR DRASTIC DISEASES.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 17, 2011 - 5:37 am | Permalink

      One more time for Miriam who may exhibit the Jewish tendency to not listen. The answer to her question is very simple:

      American society had high levels of trust bordering on naivete. It was ripe to be gamed by an aggressive minority that was willing to violate that trust.

      Just like in game theory where a selfish non-cooperator is introduced and able to take advantage of honest players – at least for a while. This is the same thing that has happened before with Jewish populations. It happened in Spain, Germany, Poland, Russia – too many to count really. Eventually the larger society catches on and there is a counter reaction.

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 17, 2011 - 8:56 am | Permalink

      Race mixing is a bad thing, but given it is happening and, at least for now, is beyond our control, it is worth recognizing certain advantages for White people. By far, the most race-mixing is occuring at low socio-economic levels involving, on average, lower IQ whites. When these lower IQ Whites intermarry, their descents then exit the White population, leaving it more intelligent on average.
      This effect is probably one of the most powerful possible short term forces of eugenics there can be.
      So this isn’t to say race-mixing isn’t bad, but it is to say that just because it is happening doesn’t mean the fat lady has sung. Whites are being made, on average, smaller in numbers but more intelligent by this process.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 17, 2011 - 8:58 am | Permalink

      Jason speaks wrote: “American society had high levels of trust bordering on naivete. It was ripe to be gamed by an aggressive minority that was willing to violate that trust.”

      Well put, Jason. It also fits in with the whole “Myth of the commons.” A shared society works so long as everyone plays along. All it takes to disrupt things is for someone to start playing for the advantage of his or her own cabal. If you have 1000 people, 980 of whom are working together, and 20 pretending to work with everyone else but for the benefit of their own cabal instead, they will come out on top.

    • Gray Prince's Gravatar Gray Prince
      February 17, 2011 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

      @Miriam: You play a good devil’s advocate. Well, it’s integration and mass imigration that are leading to racial mixing. Familiarity breeds affection. It’s natural to develop loving relations with our neighbors, regardless of race. I often see obese/unattractive white women with better looking black men. Many of these women would have remained lonely otherwise. It’s a difficult conundrum–the heart and head are often at odds.

      As for Jews, I think they are the superior race. Everything I said regarding whites applies equally to the Jewish ingroup; they need to police their gene pool and avoid interbreeding with non Jews to maintain their own superior gene pool. This is a subtheme of the book “Jewish Eugenics”, warning against the so called “Silent Holocaust”. That being said, I think White/Jewish/Asian intermixing is less deleterious than mixing with low IQ groups, because the latter will harm civilization at large, while the first only their edge at outcompeting the rest of us.

  24. European's Gravatar European
    February 17, 2011 - 12:41 am | Permalink

    I personally do not reflect on myself as being of a white “race”. The first time I was ever asked that question to what racial group I belong, was here in the US. We were Germans defined by our CULTURE, Italians, Jews, Dutch, and now we are all just “Europeans” belonging to a particular state and still somewhat defined by culture. But we are not all white European. I happened to be blond, blue eyes, just like Hitler’s little Aryan race. My mother has black Hair and blue eyes. My ancestors, depending when war broke out, became refugees, or when marriages occurred between principalities to other nations, they were aloud to live in other regions. Where ever there was peace, work and they could feed and raise a family. I am a mutt, German, Prussian (Ostpreussen not Russia, thru my grandparents), some polish before then, and who knows what else.

    The problem with the article I find, and perhaps the tone, is that it sounds very racist. In the way the word has been used, being emotionally negatively charged and directed to us, and we are turning it around to them. Kind of like the victim becoming the abusers, – strong. Though I agree with the writer on most parts, I disagree with the word “white race” and the emotional charge behind it. Preserving our European culture, uniqueness, etc., instead of white race (which invites hostility), would sound better with the same results, and less offensive to others.
    The “Race” identity 1700, Eugenics 1800, and IQ” were all created concepts and sciences by Jews. They were getting out of their ghettos, Europeans opened the public schools to them, they were being educated, and they entered the field of higher learning. The Rabbi’s were losing control of their flock thru assimilation and intermarriage; they desperately wanted to keep their chosen people “Rassenrein”, as they competed with the rest of the European Culture. And assimilating to a totally other people’s culture is huge. Most have no idea.
    Not mach erfinderisch is a saying in German. When you get desperate, you become an inventor. The drive behind desperation, and what is being invented, may be good for a specific people, their problem, and to argue for their position to others, to strengthen and fight for their group survival, as they felt losing theirs (as we feel now), but should we use their methods and aggressions the way Jews have used in the past on us? I am sorry, but the smartest of them are sick. They are tearing humanity to pieces with their sciences. To create something out of desperation like Nazism is what brought Hitler to power. It was counter productive, and an aberration for the European man, so was Communism, Marxism etc, all Jewish propelled, all created out of their desperation, to fullfill the “chosen race” concept, (probably also created at one time out of desperation) The science war with Jews is an ongoing conflict, always to find ways to validate their position of being the chosen people, race or identity. Unless we stop adopting their methods for us, we will become like them, and it will back-fire. They will make sure, since it is their method. “NO ONE IS LIKE THE JEWS” Just look at the American culture. Are we competing in the Sciences with them, the same way the two/ three Religion were/are competing. Competing is healthy up to a point, but more “Heads” will be rolling in Science and Politics, unless our kids become educated, and don’t adopt the false pride of racism, the way Jews have shown us aggressively, which leads to political war, and to wars in the lower ranks. The European culture has a good chance of being heard, and promoted as a minority culture, especially as it deteriorates here in this country. So I hope, but I may be wrong. I was not for the Iraq war, and my own kids thought I was stupid, but in the end, it proved I was right. Educate and use restrained for the long runl. But fight, when and if you must, with their methods and language, if they understand no other. Fight to remain true to who you are, and fight those, who you do not wish to become, or who wish to inslave you.
    Miriam K, this is not the end yet.

    • Tenrek Odine's Gravatar Tenrek Odine
      February 17, 2011 - 12:12 pm | Permalink

      Strongly disagree.

      The only way Whites are getting out of this current predicament is by being explicitly racial and yes that means using the word White!

      Let us be White Advocates and begin activism for our community just like NAACP, ADL, and La Raza do for theirs!

  25. Chris's Gravatar Chris
    February 17, 2011 - 4:03 am | Permalink

    Miraim K,
    History proves that a race without a warrior class always suffers from the “labor class”
    Its intresting to read your disrespect towards Whites. I wonder if you have ever conceived of a breakdown within the elites. A self enduced arrogance where the elite become so far separated from the “labor class’?
    In the past, jews remained on the fringe, I am noticing now a new pride amonst jews to proclaim their “superior” intelect and the will of easy submissiom over non jews.
    I wonder, do you believe that this over confidence and utter disrespect will back fire?
    This obvious control of the jewish elite has never reached a level this high. I must commend your clearly boastful attitude over us Whites.
    However, Jews usually only hold your contempt to those whom they profit from and manipulate for so long.
    The end is always a large scale backlash by us “ignorant, easily controlled”
    Does this ever effect your mind set, or are you following in the foot steps of your predecesesors?
    Or do you believe that you are also superior to the jews in the past who thought they were as superior as yourself.
    In histroy when jews reach their “crest” is when they begin to unravel and show their contempt and arrogance.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 17, 2011 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

      “In histroy when jews reach their “crest” is when they begin to unravel and show their contempt and arrogance.”

      Judaism has no concept of hubris, the belief in the western tradition, (of which Judaism has no part), that overweening arrogance always leads to inexorable self-destruction.

  26. Rod Mckenzie's Gravatar Rod Mckenzie
    February 17, 2011 - 4:57 am | Permalink

    Telling your kids that manual work is beneath them is utterly stupid! Only some people are cut out to be professionals. Every society needs it’s laborers as well as it’s professionals. If somebody is cut out to be a Dentist fine but if somebody is cut out to be a gardener, that is just as valid. People should be encouraged to be the best that they can be, no more no less. All Jews are not professionals, I have met Jewish Electricians and Waiters. Same goes for East Asians. You can’t raise your kid telling him that labor is beneath him and that he is destined to be a doctor when he is only capable of being a laborer.

  27. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 17, 2011 - 6:38 am | Permalink

    Miriam K:
    I think I love you

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 17, 2011 - 7:03 am | Permalink

      Smelling the alluring scent of Jezebel whilst sat in front of your PC are you, Henry? Careful your hormones don’t get the better of you.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      February 17, 2011 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

      Be sure to get a penicillin shot afterward.

  28. Curious Spectator's Gravatar Curious Spectator
    February 17, 2011 - 7:30 am | Permalink

    Christain Millar I have read a couple of your articles and it does seem to me that you are a 5th columer .Their seems something not quite right about your views , something too much , overboard , obsessive in a silly stupid way.

    The last thing Europeon people should be thinking of is indoctrination , this stupifies the mind at a time when free thinking perspicacity is called for.

    We should be tell our young folk that the University Priests and the Media Lords who control the Government Toadies do not represent US the People but exploit and manipulate the social human animals desire to socially organize.Humans are the most social of animal and this is manipulated for religious philosophical ends of those who have gain control of the Governing structure.They believe that all human being should look the same think the same and act the same , in this way every one will be happy. But my darling like many sick old people who still wish for Father Christmas to come and make every thing perfect cause then we can live in heaven on earth and no body will have to work or get sick or die then every one will be happy for ever and ever. They want to eat sausage but they don’t what to kill the pig . They are sick because they let other people kill the pig and then they eat the sausage and have lost touch with the reality of the earth even though they love to rave about green things . They are simply lairs who use words to cover their deeds.
    You talk shit Christian Miller.

  29. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 17, 2011 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    Anglo Saxon:
    But…..but….she’s so SEXY!!!

  30. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 17, 2011 - 10:09 am | Permalink

    @ “Whites need to get good jobs

    The real problem here is WHAT IS A “GOOD” job?

    The word “good” here may be even more critical to think about than the idea that controllers and gatekeepers might not “let one in” should they become highly credentialed.

    What is a “good” job for a white in an “anti-white” system?

    Sadly, the planners of the 60s, grossly uninspired as they were, simply COULD NOT SEE outside the hierarchical, linear Marxist ghetto paradigm of slave v master; oppressed v oppressor; top v bottom, either/or mentality, etc.

    All they can conceive of is “taking power,” being “top dog,” controlling others, etc. Ultimately, might may be right—- but there are many other perceptions and perambulations that can occur within that reality beyond the ghetto battery of today— and sadly, many generational whites saw deeply in terms of “larger society” in the 60s, not the paradigm of their opposition.

    Granted, I’m often interesting in the wasp subgroup, (go ahead and hate me for it), but I’m always astonished when I talk to that population about voting practices. Even now, they vote “what’s good for the country,” not what’s good for them. How to explain (and on a level, who wants to, since a new understanding is an exercise in gritty, ugly realpolitik)— that the reality of other populations is crasser, just dog-eat-dog, or as it were zog-eat-zog, lol.

    Many in the PTB can only conceive of an anti-white society, the crass us-against-them, without any more abstract thinking. Reflecting this are the institutions, judiciary, press, debate framers, PR, even sporting games (look at changes in how sports are presented to the public, in venues now actually called colosseums with their uber-paid usually black gladiators and arbitrary rules, the buying and selling of “players,” the subtext of privilege when they are arrested for rape or whatever, etc.)

    Public Games do not teach anything vaguely resembling the values of the previous Americans. Essentially, they teach what was once called the ghetto.

    The point: to whatever extent the system is “anti-white,” the more educated one is, the more he/she will be exposed to that system, financially invested in replicating it, and so on.

    Nor can everyone “move off the grid.” But the “good” white job has long been seen to be either working class (to avoid Antonio Gramsci’s “long march through the institutions” and how that played out for the middle class, OR self-employment or small business-ownership —-the kinds of jobs where one can still have one’s own thoughts.

    The Gramsci plan went for the heart of jobs that replicated society— the schools, the teachers, the newly minted industry of “social workers,” the media, press, film, arts, sports— the things through which the subtextual value of the country had been taught, the culture.

    Now that is exposed more and more—-BUT THIS MEANS the opposition will simply go elsewhere. Law, judiciary, for instance.

    So—- what is a “good” job for whites may not be what one traditionally once thought of as a “good” job.

    MANY WHITES… start off on the path of the tradition education, etc.— only to refuse to use their training. There are plenty of Ph.d.’s out there who simply have not sought nor kept things s/a university positions, for instance. Many have M.A.’s who simply do not use them, and prefer “under employment,” in order to not be living, breathing “anti-white’ material all day.

  31. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 17, 2011 - 10:36 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks
    February 16, 2011 – 7:41 pm | Permalink
    The United States had a much more libertarian system from 1776 until FDR … a run of over 150 years. And during that time the US generally served the interests of Whites. “Libertarianism” or “Anarchism” is not the core problem…”

    Eventually, the Civil War will be understood as the American communist revolution, quite possibly. No accident that communist manifesto was published simultaneously with certain officials who’d placed themselves inside english governance legislating in ways that starved Irish in the famine, then brought them to NY to be conscripted into the army, and against enemies they’d had in the past (ulster scotts now in virginia); Otherwise, they were conscripted; half the Northern army was foreign born. No new populations were ever taught more about the war, and certainly not reconstruction, (about 1/3 of “american” population now.)

    To act as if America were somehow separate (as most thinkers seem to) from mass upheavals in Europe surrounding collusion of bankers and “communists,” that led from the early attempts at “revolution” in the 1800s, to Russia, then Hungary under Kun, etc., would be sort of strange, actually.

    This year is 150 years from the civil war; 150 years is right. As Solzhenitzn put it “Two Hundred Years Together.” The period between the war and the creation of the Federal reserve/world war— is very little explored. Reconstruction is entirely deep-sixed, although involved years of military occupation. The 30 years from reconstruction to empire wars—the forging of this “forever war” scenario, as now, occurred during that time, a sort of lost years— during which new populations were bussed in en masse (as with “new population” now).

    Nor was the country as today, as so many assume in ‘temporal blindness.’ There were only about 30 states, for instance, not 50—so more of the country was against the fed or neutral than is now imagined.

  32. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 17, 2011 - 10:50 am | Permalink

    @Fender_strat

    “White children should also be taught that their is nothing wrong with doing manual labor or pursuing a career that requires manual labor.”
    No, you see this is exactly the kind of stuff we shouldn’t be teaching our kids. You want our kids laboring nine hours a day while Jews and Asians sit in comfortable offices getting all the money?….”

    Too easily, on this issue, we get caught up in the class problems.

    White kids must be taught they are hated, however sad this is. If they understand it is an anti-white system, they may NOT WANT THOSE SUPPOSEDLY “cushy” jobs—- as they will be cow-towing to exactly the kinds of people you describe. Eg: within media, perhaps one would have “power” but it will also be contingent on saying the proscribed message, and relating to non-white bosses, or anti-white-white bosses— that kind of thing.

    It just depends. Many people elected to become working class in the 80s and have made good money, less hassle, etc., where others tried to keep positions in places s/a academia, teaching, media— only to feel confused, compromised, etc.— no matter how “cushy” their personal life, in terms of perceived status, and so on.

    THE MAIN THING— white kids who previously were protected must have the issues, options, and what these different possibilities will mean for them laid out much more clearly.

    As the white children of affirmative action are only now coming of age (those who began school in 1965 are only now 45 yo!!)— only now can we learn FROM WHAT THEY WISH they’d been taught.

    That boils down to a few things: a) that we are hated, that what we think of as best in ourselves –looks, intelligence, morals— will be seen as disgusting by others b) paid work may mean doing things that are explicitly anti-white c) this will be more/less true in various industries, occupations, professions.

    That is the wisdom of the past 45 years. Many of the “single moms” who got sent “back to school” (thought reform and re-education, just like the WWII “GI’s” on the “GI bill” or immigrants on “dream act”)— necessarily failed their children due to simply being put in a vulnerable position, having previously been in a world where they could trust authority, then having that used to train them in lunacies s/a “feminism” (and the relational problems that implies as well as politics). They paid dearly, as did their children.

    The main thing is choicefulness.

    Teaching the new reality— without ruining the children. Showing them how to operate the environment if they have to do so, without destroying the spirit they were once able to have.

    • Tenrek Odine's Gravatar Tenrek Odine
      February 17, 2011 - 12:27 pm | Permalink

      ‘White kids must be taught they are hated, however sad this is. If they understand it is an anti-white system, they may NOT WANT THOSE SUPPOSEDLY “cushy” jobs—- as they will be cow-towing to exactly the kinds of people you describe. ‘

      There are other reasons to reject those ‘cushy’ jobs as well.

      1.) If you disagree with ‘The System’, why on earth would you do something that would support it, like making lots of money and paying taxes? Personally I choose to take one of those Unionized State Employee jobs so I am sucking huge amounts of money from ZOG thus weakening it!

      2.) If One comes to the conclusion that the current state of affairs is unsustainable (Yugoslavia 2: cleansing in America edition) then it would be prudent to Ride the Tiger as Baron Julius Evola suggested and prepare one-self for the future, rather then chase after useless Jewish Federal Reserve notes!!!

    • fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
      February 17, 2011 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

      Anne, how did European Jews get to where they are today? Throughout the first half of the 20th century they were getting into colleges and universities that were hostile to them and they were living in a society that was rife with antisemitism. They succeeded and fundamentaly changed society because they were well-educated and organized. They towed the pro-WASP line when they had to, but all the while they were working for their own interests.

      Well today they control the universities and society at large, which means we have to do to them what they did to us. Get into their universities, get good jobs, and start changing things from the inside. A “good job” is one that pays well and has some influence on society. Could Jews have changed society if they were content with working in factories and farms? No. What so many people advocate on this site- adherence to concepts like honor and truth- will just keep whites in a state of serfdom.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 3:13 pm | Permalink

      I’m not sure how hostile the elite schools ever were to Jews. That is one of Jewish Americans’ foundation myths–but the fact that people were complaining in the 1920′s that Ivy League schools were graduating so many Jews underlies the fact that there were, in fact, many Jews there. Look how high the Jewish percentages were even AFTER the numerus clausus–which were quickly eliminated–where instituted.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 3:26 pm | Permalink

      Here, this is the face of the Judeo-WASP hybrids that came out of the early 20th century experience at Ivy League schools: http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2002/09/13/features/prof-bok.goes.behind.the.music-2248578.shtml

      I’ll bet she ‘enjoys mowing the lawn.’

      Her father was president of Harvard–i’m sure in 20 years the presidents of ivy league schools will be the Asian-Jewish hybrids that are so in fashion now… the Boston Brahmins no longer even needed to lend a patina of legitimacy…

    • February 17, 2011 - 5:48 pm | Permalink

      Athanasius February 17, 2011 – 3:13 pm

      “I’m not sure how hostile the elite schools ever were to Jews. That is one of Jewish Americans’ foundation myths–but the fact that people were complaining in the 1920′s that Ivy League schools were graduating so many Jews underlies the fact that there were, in fact, many Jews there.”

      Look up the two papers I referenced by Winston on discrimination against Jews in psychology in the first half of the C20th.

      Bear in mind that females were also discriminated against. Why?

      What is the relationship between brain-gender and subject preference?

      What is the relationship between hunters vs gatherers, and brain-gender?

      What is the relationship between gatherers and poachers/thieves?.

      Why are males programmed genetically to be taller, stronger and brighter?

      Why are human females designed to allure? Why do human females have higher verbal than spatial ability and males the reverse?

      Why is the female range in ability narrower than that of males?

      Is genital gender always reflected in brain-gender?

      Why have individual differences made a taboo in favour of equality in the last 60 years especially. What has the cost been?

      Resad comments from January and you may find out.

    • dc's Gravatar dc
      February 17, 2011 - 9:01 pm | Permalink

      David, this is very good

  33. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 17, 2011 - 11:01 am | Permalink

    @David Longley on Jason—

    Said— What if you are wrong?
    …Rolling back the nanny-state in favour of individualism and privatisation – extolling narcissism…
    Before WWI the USA was isolationist. That changed dramatically after WWII. People such as yourself appear to be determined to turn the USA into a land which cultivates domestic racial hatred…

    Well… a lot of your writing makes it sound you’re from overseas, not u.s. —but anyway, for people s/a you seem to be— it has been “problem, reaction, solution,” and certainly, it’s been set up so that we will seem stuck with neo-feudalism, (or whatever you wish to call it). But your u.s. history is limited. It’s a much longer game that WWII, lol. This round of neo-feudalism is better placed in the civil war, not WWII, and it’s actually OBVIOUSLY this neo-feudal “nanny state” ethnic conflict model that HAS CAUSED the racial divide, far more than slavery in many ways. (Portugal had 90% of Atlantic slave trade, but only in U.S. –5%– were their endless propaganda films to produce the “nanny state,” AND ITS ETHNIC CONFLICT MODEL.

    Domestic Racial Hatred IS HOW WE DO BUSINESS AND ORGANIZE THE SOCIETY. Wake up. And we have always had international trade, lmao. What is “isolationist”— who uses this against whom and why? Who benefits?

    Quit watching the History Channel and listening to Mommy Prof and start reading the immense amount of material out there. Dixie After the War is up for free reading— go for it. Learn something more about the country you seem to be in.

    • February 17, 2011 - 11:29 am | Permalink

      “But your u.s. history is limited.”

      You’ve just made that up. ;-) You have no idea what I know. It’s an intensional idiom. It’s a tool of linguistic trickery. Witchcraft. ;-)

      What’s more, did you look into the Gore Vidal links?

      You won’t be told anything you don’t like. That is your colective problem. I know other people over here who teach US students and they remark on the same thing. It is quite remarkable how powerful the domestic pro-Libertarian propaganda has been on US citizens. Observe this as an example Then look up the speech by George Reisman on Youtube on Nazis…

      The Von Mises site is anarchistic (Austrian School).

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 17, 2011 - 11:55 am | Permalink

      @ anne
      February 17, 2011

      Methinks you need to do more homework regarding your understanding of American “isolationism” … an understanding which is superficial at best. This is why, I would suggest, people from “overseas” have to keep writing impatient comments like this one in the hope of shaking ordinary Americans awake about their very own history! Over the years, I have lost count of the number of times I have educated an American passport holder on such matters.

      You will surely know about the Monroe Doctrine? That is when the United States was ‘isolationist’. Then came President Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt. It was his administration that kick-started America’s endless meddling in South American (and Caribbean, and Pacific) affairs.

      Have you head of the Rough Riders? That was Teddy and his band of merry men stealing Cuba from Spain. That theft was prompted by a false flag operation, where the battleship Maine was mysteriously blown up in Havana harbor. It was done by forces from (possibly) New York, but blamed (inevitably) on the Cubans.

      The short-lived Spanish-American War led to the 1898 Treaty of Paris, whereupon you God-dammed hypocritical Yankees gained possession of Guam and the Philippines. This was the start of America’s “century and counting” of imperialism.

      On August 14, 1899, the Schurman Commission recommended that the U.S. retain control of the Philippines. The U.S. sent a force of some 11,000 ground troops to occupy the Philippines. When U.S. troops began to take the place of the Spanish in control of the country, warfare broke out between U.S. forces and the Filipinos resulting in the Philippine-American War. So, you Americans have been war-mongers for far, far longer than you realize. Don’t you narcissistic people ever read? Ever study?

      On the world stage, Roosevelt’s policies were characterized by his slogan, “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. Roosevelt was the force behind the completion of the Panama Canal; to this end he sent out the Great White Fleet onto the high seas to display American power.

      Roosevelt’s arguments with Taft gave a golden opportunity to the Manhattan banksters to get their place-man elected instead; the biggest jerk in the world named Woodrow Wilson, who infamously signed into law the Federal Reserve Act, thus condemning Americans to over one hundred years of financial slavery. This is why Wilson is the only US President buried in Washington DC. As a thank you gesture.

      When campaigning for re-election in 1916, Wilson based his re-election campaign around the slogan “he kept us out of war”. But by April of the following year, he was asking Congress to declare war (thanks largely to another series of false flags, or after deliberately goading Germany into rash reactions, such as exporting munitions to Britain on a passenger ship). It was of course Wilson’s 2nd Administration that imposed upon the American people a form of federal tyranny that was used as a template for when the Bush Jnr’s administration instigated your totalitarian and creepy Department of Homeland Security. You know, the one that likes to stick their Federal fingers up airline passenger’s an*s’ if they refuse to be zapped by X-Rays or Terra-Hertz Radiation that damages DNA.

      During the late 1920s, your country was so keen to throw its weight around that you almost instigated a military conflict with Britain. This spat was over naval size (equivalence in number of ships or of tonnage). To keep you quiet, London agreed to limit its naval tonnage. This forced the Royal Navy to end Britain’s cooperation with Japan in the Far East (South China Sea). The resulting naval vacuum led directly to Japanese expansion, and then Pearl Harbour, and the Second World War in the Pacific. All America’s fault!!

      I could go on and on. Quite clearly your misguided belief that “American Isolationism” did not end until AFTER the Second World War is so fanciful, I do wonder if you got your information from the Disney Channel.

      So it now looks like you need to swallow your own unsagacious advice: Learn something more about the country you seem to be in!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 22, 2011 - 3:04 am | Permalink

      The troll Anglo Saxon’s hateful response to Anne’s post is obviously insipid. Her use of the term ‘isolationist’ was obviously shorthand for the policy of America using it’s military and economic power to promote American interests, while staying out of foreign entanglements, which was the dominant strategy until after WWII. Since then we have been engaged in a number of foreign entanglements that had nothing to do with our interests. Anyone remotely familiar with American history knows this.

      But Anglo Saxon promotes a Leftist/Marxist view of American history. As a troll, he takes his cues from the likes of Howard Zinn and Chomsky.

  34. Heather Blue's Gravatar Heather Blue
    February 17, 2011 - 1:18 pm | Permalink

    In the grand scheme Jews have already lost. That is why they are thieves. Somewhere along the way they decided it was easier to take what others had instead of working for it themselves. It was a deadly decision. It required subterfuge. In trying to look like the host people and/or take advantage of the host people they have mingled their genes with others for thousands of years. It’s too late to try and save the Jewish race. They can only hang on to the monster they have become. When a Jew marries another Jew he is marrying white, black, brown and yellow genes. His DNA reveals he is the most mongrelized of all races.
    What holds the Jews together is the knowledge that in order to survive they must be master swindlers. Survival depends on unusual craftiness. They are devoted to it. Only the cream of the crop can rise to the top. Otherwise, Jews would be dead men in the ground instead of dead men walking. Their genius for stealing almost equals our genius for science. We contribute to life, Jews take. Their methods of deception are unequaled. The plotting and planning is out of this world. But survival is not a game. It is life or death. Jewish hatred for anyone or anything standing in the way is a lesson in survival. We should take note of it for our own purposes. The intellectuals among us have certainly noticed.

    At this point Jews have us boxed in. We are somewhat impotent because Jews control our organizing vehicle – the public information system. That is why it has come down to a “them” or “us” situation. Survival cannot be had without hatred. We need a lot more of it. We must marshal our scattered forces. Principled behavior won’t cut it.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 17, 2011 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

      @ Heather Blue
      February 17, 2011
      Very well put! Perhaps you can visit TOO website more often to contribute more insightful comment?

      My only criticism with the above is that you might like to revise your exclusive and unqualified use of the word “Jew”. Consider adding the words “Yiddish” or Ashkenazi as appropriate prefixes or suffixes.

      For example, we cannot (as far as I can see) point an accusing finger at Ethiopian or Iranian “Jews”. Can we??

    • February 18, 2011 - 9:08 am | Permalink

      Heather Blue February 17, 2011 – 1:18 pm In the grand scheme Jews have already lost. That is why they are thieves. Somewhere along the way they decided it was easier to take what others had instead of working for it themselves.”

      Gatherers rather than hunters?

      It’s a female-brained behaviour is it not? Note not females per se necessarily. If females were tall, and muscular and if there were more of them above the IQ=120 point, would the world be a better place or even more criminal? It is women who compete for attention. Men in armies work as a team. They hate prima donnas. They know they are dangerous loose cannons,

      Look up the Prader Scale and think brain-gender. Nature has selected this. It has to be genetic first, hormonal second. It is old phylogetically and must be sex chromosome linked. Males have ONE X chromosome, but a lot of peole do not grasp the point that females have one of the X chromosomes largely inactivated. The result is that males have a few genes which are unique to males, whilst also having the genes that females have. Males and females are different. How the genes express the obvious differences which show up in the population level data (and choices at university and jobs) is not clear, but a lot is known, far more than many here have grasped.

      Women campaigning for equality at work even in jobs they can not do or do not want to do etc have been sowing the seeds of their own cultures’ demise by lowering the birth rate amongst the bright and thus dumbing down their populations. :-(

      Look at the gender frequencies in psychology and the mean SAT scores for those going to study psychology. This is the tip of the iceberg as some who have received data and graphs from me since the early noughties will know. Boys and girls may get the same percentage grades at maths A level in the UK, but what is not made clear is that over twice as many boys as girls sit the exams! If you hear that girls do just as well in engineering as boys, that could be true, but one has to understand that only about 14% of the those doing engineering may be girls….

      Engineers build structures and manage. Those in the humanities etc churn words and cause havoc. China is run by engineers. The Libertarian-Democracies are ‘ruined’ by those who studied havoc-making often unwittingly.

  35. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    February 17, 2011 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    An excellent, well written article by Miller. The amusing comments by “Miriam K” make interesting reading and are food for thought, but a “Jew” she/he is obviously not; good reverse psychology by whoever it is though, you have an excellent read on things and know how to prod the “goyim”.
    Boudicca’s book recommendations are certainly very good ones, as well.
    Here is a good article on the controlled media, and its corrosive influence: http://www.natallnews.com/story.phb?id=9674

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 8:34 pm | Permalink

      ascend*

  36. Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
    February 17, 2011 - 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Regarding Lowly labor, vs “Superior” Professionals – would any of the “medical miracles” of the past century be possible with out electricity, refrigeration, and plumbing?

    • fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
      February 17, 2011 - 7:38 pm | Permalink

      Ciaran, who had more influence on society: the man who cured polio or the plumber who made sure his toilets could flush? I truly don’t understand much of the so-called reasoning on this site. How do you people propose to regain control of western civilization if you teach your kids that it’s okay to be plumbers, farmers, and brick layers while Jewish and Asian parents are pushing for their kids to be doctors, lawyers, scientists, and writers?

      Hollywood sells this crap to us every day; the working man is honest and noble while the stock broker is greedy and weak. They sell this to us because they know lots of stupid goy will believe it and be content with running forklifts for minimum wage while Jews control America’s financial system. In the movies the greedy stockbroker always goes to jail when he does wrong, but this doesn’t happen in real life.

      The rich stay rich, and they typically don’t pay for their crimes. And many of the richest people in the US are Jews. Don’t believe the movies that portray the working man as the ideal American; only dumb whites, hispanics, and blacks believe that. The Jews and Asians are smart enough to see through that propaganda, and they make sure their kids never do that kind of labor.

      Reading comments on this site is disheartening. People here are upset over Jewish control but they don’t want to admit to themselves that Jewish tactics make complete sense. To win a battle you need to use winning tactics, and the Jews have that figured out. We need to start using Jewish tactics. It’s either that or we stay their servants.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 8:34 pm | Permalink

      It’s more complicated than that. If you go to Florida State law school, what are your chances of getting a Supreme Court clerkship or an associate’s job at Davis Polk compared to someone who goes to Harvard? Now let’s say you’re a white male and you want to go to Harvard for undergrad… 50% is minority. 25% is Jewish. Of the remaining 25%, 12.5% is female… now, of the final 12.5% how many of them are sycophantic old-money WASPs who are now reliant on the entire system? Realistically, how could a significant number of whites ever get in so as to ascent to positions of power?
      That’s not a rhetorical question.

      Engineering is probably still a field in which one can advance based on intellect and ability alone… and we should explore that, but the professions? Those are closed.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 17, 2011 - 9:09 pm | Permalink

      Our kind of Whites most definitely need more representatives in academia, the media and the professions. We are in danger of living in a world ruled by Jewish professionals (lawyers and professors) and Asian technologists (computers, etc.). Why would Whites deliberately dumb their own kids down?

      I remember back in high school all the “redneck” Whites that mocked intelligence and “book learning” and the “nerdy” kids who understood math and science. I’d like to think that now that their country has been taking from them, they realize how dumb it was to attack the high IQ Whites among them, who could have helped them. Sadly, some of the liberal White “race traitors” are former smart White kids that were treated badly by the blue collar crowd and now hate them.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 18, 2011 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

      I never, in my wildest dreams ever expected to be quoting Jason Squeaks approvingly, BUT:

      “I remember back in high school all the “redneck” Whites that mocked intelligence and “book learning” and the “nerdy” kids who understood math and science. I’d like to think that now that their country has been taking from them, they realize how dumb it was to attack the high IQ Whites among them, who could have helped them. Sadly, some of the liberal White “race traitors” are former smart White kids that were treated badly by the blue collar crowd and now hate them.”

      Truer words have never been spoken. Been there, done that.

      But who was it who taught those dumb-asses to think that being smart was stoopid? Where did they pick up that message? Oh yeah – they picked it up from television and pop radio.

      Now, next question: Who wrote, produced and paid for these distorted views of white people that still appear with regularity in our media?

      …anyone?

  37. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 17, 2011 - 8:29 pm | Permalink

    David Longley:
    Thanks for the link! Very interesting. Also on the same page as the speech is this:
    Youtube; “Democracy: The God that failed”
    Hans Hermann Hoppe…….Did you see that?

  38. fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
    February 17, 2011 - 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Athanasius:

    Harvard has many Jews and Asians because Jews and Asians are smart. If a white kid gets a near perfect score on his SATs, graduates high school with a 4.0, and has a few impressive extracirricular activities under his belt, he’ll have a good chance of getting into Harvard or some other Ivy League school.

    You don’t defeat an enemy by fighting on a different battlefield. We have no hope of gaining control of our nations if we raise our kids to be construction workers and waiters. How does that make any sense whatsoever? Today’s world revolves around the flow of data, and this is why Jews and Asians are kicking our asses. They know what’s important while you people are stuck in a fantasy land where the world revolves around some kind of knightly honor code.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 17, 2011 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

      Bullshit. This site is full of people who did just that and didn’t get into those kinds of schools. I’m not saying disengage, i’m saying that the playing field isn’t fair, and we’d better figure out another way.

      As much as it pains me ascribe credit to any of Longley’s ideas…It seems that it WOULD behoove us to pursue a more ‘masculine’ mindset and go into engineering, which is much less closed off. We have to be like Sakharov–so good at what we do that we are indispensable. Only then can we regain decision-making.

      After all, throughout history, we are the builders, the innovators, the producers. The vampires can’t live off of each other.

  39. Alexander's Gravatar Alexander
    February 17, 2011 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

    The reality today is that White children on graduation face many obstacles and many will end up in less than desired jobs. But what they do with the pittance they earns will affect their station in life later on. If they are shut out of the $100 shares they can still buy the $1 or less shares and still make some money. Many big shots today are finding themselves underwater as the value of the house, their primary asset, sinks. They may not be able to donate serious money to TOQ and similar self help groups but they could buy a book from them instead of watching a movie. Many little tributaries make a mighty river. Today some tributaries are linking up and a river is beginning to form. Just go with the flow baby.

  40. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 17, 2011 - 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Miriam:

    Love your silly Zionist posts, but I have to make a few corrections sweetie.
    I didn’t cheat the jews in my garage. I charged high prices for good work. The same as I charged others. I just wouldn’t let you people “jew me down” on the price. The only people who ever got lower than the going rate where white widow women who established to my satisfaction that they were really poor, and of course, Christian. I made the jews wait longer for their cars, putting white Christians first. Jews could either wait or take their shit elsewhere, but I never cheated them. Same deal for negroes, who just love white mechanics so much you would think it was the 1950′s all over again. They trusted me more than their own brothers, which was actually pretty smart on their behalf, because other negroes would cheat them but I would not.
    Now, my little jewess, (if in fact you are one which is uncertain) your pal Madoff the hook nosed crook stole most of the money from other jews, jew colleges, jew charities, hollywood jews, the owners of the Mets, etc.
    The guy was an all time champion thief, something for which you people should really be hanging your heads in shame, rather than angrily accusing people of anti-semitism for mentioning it.

  41. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 17, 2011 - 10:32 pm | Permalink

    By the way, today’s automobiles are very sophisticated and complex, and those of you assholes who think it is “low” work don’t have a clue. A modern Mercedes, made by German craftsmen and built in the fatherland (and elsewhere) has 60-80 computer modules (ABS, traction control, engine control, transmission control, airbags, entertainment, climate control, etc) linked together on a network, has redundant data connections, fiber optic networks, etc. The asians some of you poeple think are so smart just copy it!
    Good mechanics average higher salaries than many lawyers. Most lawyers are just hacks, jews included, and have essentially nothing more than an extended liberal arts degree. A few good, business savvy, aggressive, smart lawyers who are quick on their feet and likeable when they argue make a lot of money and push people around, but most are fighting to make a modest living, many giving up on the law after just a couple of years. It is really only the ones from the top of their class and a good school that make the big money, which I define as at least 200 grand a year.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 17, 2011 - 10:43 pm | Permalink

      Oh there is no doubt that building world class cars requires high intelligence. This is probably why Germany excels at it, because they have such a big population to select from. And it is true that most lawyers are worthless.

      We need to be more oriented toward engineering and building things, which is pretty natural for Whites of most stripes. However, we need a few White Advocates that are well versed in the issue of academia like MacDonald to protect us.

  42. February 17, 2011 - 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Hmm… it’s sort of contra-factual to the notion that Jews can influence the perspective of whites in maladaptive ways, isn’t it?

    Athanasius,

    Not in the form Judith Rich Harris has formulated it.

    If you read her book ‘No Two Alike: Human Nature and Human Individuality’, and I recommend reading it given how well reasoned it is, you’ll see that she does believe culture to have an impact on how children turn out.

    It just is that it is not the culture of the parents which matters, but rather a more general culture inculcated by peers, and to some extent an averaged out version of the many non-parental adults the child interacts with.

    The Jews have had a tremendous influence on the youth culture which socializes White children, and it is through this mechanism that Jewish influence was mostly brought to bear.

    A White child’s parents could have very liberal attitudes inculcated into them by Jews, but if their child goes to a school with a very conservative youth culture, it wouldn’t matter at all.

    Assuming the child didn’t inherit genes predisposing him to liberalism, he’d rebel against his parents to become a conservative.

    In the same way it’s of no actual importance if a White child’s parents have very conservative attitudes, except from a genetic standpoint.

    If the child is sent to a school with a liberal youth culture, the chances are he’ll rebel against what his parents believed.

    This of course is what happened to the fools of what’s called the Greatest Generation. They were actually rather conservative by today’s standards, but they sat on their hands as liberals and Jews in the media and school system constructed a hyper-liberal youth culture that the children of the ‘Greatest Generation’ assimilated to.

    It was perfectly natural for these children to assimilate to the youth culture prevalent at the time. What’s wrong is that the culture was turned into something sick right under the noses of their oblivious parents.

    Thus they became the Baby Boomers, the most liberal and anti-White generation ever seen up to that point in history.

    Now it is the case that even after someone becomes an adult, social mores can have an effect on them.

    But these social mores don’t come directly from parents. They come from the more general culture of the area (in recent times the general culture of the area will find itself supplemented and often overwhelmed by a general culture piped in through distant media sources such as television stations).

  43. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 17, 2011 - 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely Jason, I completely agree. Effective ones like Dr. Mac could change the world.
    I would naturally prefer all the doctors, lawyers and professors be white again. It will be the case in the nation that someday leads the world -whichever nation that turns out to be, or how far into the future.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      February 18, 2011 - 4:38 am | Permalink

      “Effective ones like Dr. Mac could change the world…”

      Dr Mac for Prezzy!!!

    • Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
      February 18, 2011 - 6:03 am | Permalink

      Restrain your enthusiasm, darling. Dr Mac has confessed to smoking weed in his youth. We can’t have a guy like that in the White House, setting a bad example for the masses.

      Apart from which, Dr Mac openly admits to liking classical music, which proves beyond all doubt that he’s a lotus-eating elitist.

      Remember that our founding fathers, who managed to shake off the imperialist shackles of evil Albion, were keen supporters in their day of the French Revolution and its noble ideals: above all, the basic ideal of egalitarianism.

      Dr Mac’s rejection of egalitarianism, clearly demonstrated not only by his academic work but by his bizarre musical tastes, is likely to be unhelpful in any future bid for the White House.

      Egalitarianism is written into the very fabric of our Constitution. All men are created equal before God. And all women are created equal to men — if not slightly superior owing to their intuitive faculties and physical beauty.

      Dr Mac would do well to take cognizance of these sober facts.

      He should furthermore take, as his exemplars, men we can all look up to and respect as role models: righteous and idealistic statesmen concerned with human rights and fired with an undying love for Israel: men like George W Bush and Barack Obama.

      Roll on the Revolution!

    • February 18, 2011 - 6:48 am | Permalink

      “Miriam K February 18, 2011 – 6:03 am

      “Egalitarianism is written into the very fabric of our Constitution. All men are created equal before God. And all women are created equal to men — if not slightly superior owing to their intuitive faculties and physical beauty.

      Dr Mac would do well to take cognizance of these sober facts.”

      The USA does indeed appear to be a population of insightless, anarchists (aka Libertarians). Whilst all revolutions in the past have ended up with civil wars followed by restorations, or ongoing disasters, the USA seems incorrigibly, Oppositionally Defiantly, to be committed to the latter. Just look at the budget deficit and deregulation since the 70s.

      If this isn’t mass de facto evidence of the narcissistic young/arrested developed out of control, what is? It’s there in the test score trend data too (see SATs and ETS). How much data do they need? It’s always someone else’s fault too, now the Chinese work too hard, save too much, and if anyone disagrees with the USA, they’re pegged ‘communists’ or hostiles, and are likely to give you the big thumbs down, and/or bomb/subvert your political-economy.

      Meanwhile, this (note, feb 2007 before the crunch) and this go on, the demographics keep on changing, with a dwindling (especially amonsgt the bright) White population due to Differential Fertility. THAT was the message of chapter 15 of “The Bell Curve” back in 1994. Not race. How many peole know this?

      If people in blogs such as this keep giving the thumbs down (a new system too I noted) and censoring posts they don’t like, what will that achieve? A few donations from incitement of the misguided? To what end?

      :-(

  44. James's Gravatar James
    February 18, 2011 - 6:59 am | Permalink

    “David Longley,

    While I can’t say I’ve understood anything else you’ve said on this site, I agree with the raging you’ve done against the nurture assumption in this thread.

    I’ve read Judith Rich Harris’ works and find them convincing.

    In their hearts people don’t want to believe what she says merely because they want to think parenting has far more impact on how children turn out than the evidence permits.

    Children often turn out like their parents due to genetics, and sometimes because of a shared macro-culture, not because of how the parent raised the child.

    All the evidence points us toward that conclusion.”

    This is idiocy. You and Longley need to put down the textbooks and actually start living.

    Of course a human potential is a function of genome, but to suggest that environment has no influence on individuals is ridiculous.

    Have you never been influenced by a strong role model? Has no one ever influenced your world view? Were you never effected by a parent or grandparent showing you kindness as a child? Have you never been blown away by a band at a rock concert for crying out loud? I used to be fully signed up member of the multi-kult but my experiences changed my outlook over time, as did the writings of inspirational role models such as Dr. Macdonald.

    Your world view is counter-intuitive and implies that human beings have no capacity to incorporate their experiences into their persona.

    Give me a break.

    • February 18, 2011 - 9:47 am | Permalink

      James February 18, 2011 – 6:59 am

      “This is idiocy. You and Longley need to put down the textbooks and actually start living.

      Of course a human potential is a function of genome, but to suggest that environment has no influence on individuals is ridiculous.

      You are calling the experts idiots? This is evidence from hundreds of studies in Behavioural Genetics since the mid 80s (use Plomin and Daniels 1987 as a start if you like, but it goes way back decades before that). It is also the message from the applied work (cf. HeadStart or closing the B-W gap) which has tried and failed to change behaviour through applied environmentalist programmes including teaching.

      Why does this not sink in? It is because it is new/novel to you that’s all. Give it time. It is unsettling.

      I am not an ‘academic’. I worked as an Applied Behaviour Analyst in the Government forensic field in policy development and application, and now work on why many are wasting their time trying to do some things rather than others.

      “Have you never been influenced by a strong role model? Has no one ever influenced your world view? Were you never effected by a parent or grandparent showing you kindness as a child? Have you never been blown away by a band at a rock concert for crying out loud? I used to be fully signed up member of the multi-kult but my experiences changed my outlook over time, as did the writings of inspirational role models such as Dr. Macdonald.”

      You do not understand how subtley the environment selects, shapes and reinforces behaviours already in an individual’s genetically expressed, i.e emitted, repertoire. We identity people who have aptitude (emit behaviours in music, maths, woodwork etc. This is subtle diversity selection at work. Listen to the one hour audio – ref 3) and give it a chance to sink in, along with this. If Shared-Environment is not efficacious, why do you think Non-Shared is given the dearth of evidence that it is from all the treatment programmes, education etc? This is subtle but forceful question. Do not treat it lightly or emotionally just because it is a new one, or you read it in a strange place. That has long been my style.

      “Your world view is counter-intuitive and implies that human beings have no capacity to incorporate their experiences into their persona.

      Give me a break.”

      I am teaching you what the research evidence from the real world shows. Try to listen. Of course it is counter intuitive. So is the fact that the earth goes round the sun and that it is not flat. Good science is like this, it disturbs.

      Listen to the audio, especially from 30 mins in. This was a turning point. The brains largely left psychology. It is why it is a female subject today. Oddly, some have not seen this….

  45. Joe's Gravatar Joe
    February 18, 2011 - 8:37 am | Permalink

    I am white and I fumbled a bit through school, falling a few credits short of a diploma. At 26 years of life, is it too late for me to take that single class, get that B.S., and live a successful life? Or am I too far behind the curve, sort of “out of the game”?

    I feel this is relevant here because there has been discussion on this thread about manual labor and intellectual labor. My completion of the B.S. would allow me to enter the field of intellectual labor. But am I too far out? Is it all for naught?

    • February 19, 2011 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

      Assuming you are not married with kids then it is not too late at all (you could even do it with a family but it would be much harder). If you are good at science and math then head in that direction – I would recommend engineering of some sort – one of the few BS degrees where you can actually get a decent job. Plus engineering can be practical in everyday life – fixing and building things.
      Just dig in, live poor, and get prepared for a long process. Only those who work hard (harder than the majority) and take risks will be successful.

  46. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 18, 2011 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    “….They [Jews] succeeded and fundamentaly changed society because they were well-educated and organized. They towed the pro-WASP line when they had to, but all the while they were working for their own interests. Well today they control the universities and society at large, which means we have to do to them what they did to us. Get into their universities, get good jobs, and start changing things from the inside. A “good job” is one that pays well and has some influence on society…”

    That… or gross out. When Columbia University offered the Frankfurt School a place to work when they fled the Institute for Social Research (when Hitler tossed them out)—- the wasps LEFT COLUMBIA. Literally…they just sort of vanished (the way so many students have just kinda sorta vanished into “home schools.” Later, Columbia U. actually offered –who would believe this today, lol— scholarships to wasps, to try to get them to go back to that school. No kidding.

    My point was: If you work as an academic, say in a humanities department, you MUST teach the party line on de-colonization, insupportable one-sided history, the victim narrative, etc. A career s/a that might well just turn one’s mind to mush— and there is a great price to be paid for this level of “American taqquiyah” or dissimulation, the production of the schizoid mind and cognitive dissonance (holding two contradictory ideas in the mind at one time).

    Many have opted to begin their own media outlets, self-publishing, home schooling, home churching, etc. The “powers” weilded by dissimulating school teachers may not be as effective, for instance. Although “working within the system to change the system” as the left used to put it, is viable (but not without serious discussion about how to keep your head screwed on straight while it is done).

    Don’t forget, also, that the jews have a tribal religion, in Orthodoxy, and therefore an organized space for “being oneself,” that the gentile does not have, and which would be helpful in dissimulation. You can “play the game” most of the day, then unwind at the shul. And what gentile has that?

    • February 18, 2011 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

      “anne February 18, 2011 – 9:22 am
      “That… or gross out. When Columbia University offered the Frankfurt School a place to work when they fled the Institute for Social Research (when Hitler tossed them out)—- the wasps LEFT COLUMBIA. Literally…they just sort of vanished (the way so many students have just kinda sorta vanished into “home schools.” Later, Columbia U. actually offered –who would believe this today, lol— scholarships to wasps, to try to get them to go back to that school. No kidding.

      My point was: If you work as an academic, say in a humanities department, you MUST teach the party line on de-colonization, insupportable one-sided history, the victim narrative, etc. A career s/a that might well just turn one’s mind to mush— and there is a great price to be paid for this level of “American taqquiyah” or dissimulation, the production of the schizoid mind and cognitive dissonance (holding two contradictory ideas in the mind at one time). “

      That appears to be a very accurate description of how Higher Education in these areas has gone over the past 40 – 50 years, but look closely at the numbers (on both sides of the Atlantic) doing these courses, and especially the gender balance. Much of what you describe is avoidance of science, and it’s feminine-brained avoidance of science and logic in favour of language and arguing. That’s all about appearances. A human female’s social life is largely about appearances. Her role is to lure a mate whilst competing with other females. The idea that males compete with each other over females is a bit overplayed for normal males. Recall the scene in Butch Cassidy?

      Until more people grasp this nettle, nothing will get any better. People will not see through to what’s causing the dire trouble we are now in. It is, alas, human females and feminie-brained males, not Jews per se. More of their males may have feminized-brains (see NCAH and CYP21), but even that’s not their fault.

      In the ‘Serious Man’ thread, observe that the father, the man somewhat bemused by it all, is a physicist. The exchange with Clive Park is classic. Clive just does not get it. That’s the substantive problem, some people just can not get it. It’s got to be genetic. The son too wants little to do with what goes on in his bizarre culture. There are Jewish people like that too you know. They are trapped. Similarly, there are Gentiles like the wife, Sy Ableman and the daughter. Lots ;-(

  47. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 18, 2011 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    @ above I am white and I fumbled a bit through school, falling a few credits short of a diploma. At 26 years of life, is it too late for me to take that single class, get that B.S., and live a successful life? Or am I too far behind the curve, sort of “out of the game”?

    No time is too late. Be aware of the game, that’s all. Ensure there’s a space where you can be totally yourself, say what you really think and feel, always.

  48. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 18, 2011 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    Joe:

    At 26 you can still be anything you want. By all means, get the credentals, ignore the brainwashing. Be advised, though, a B.S. is hardly worthwhile anymore. Just show up and pay the tuition and you got it. Get a PhD, J.D., M.D. or D.D. if you want a smidgen of credibility. Do something you enjoy is probably better advice.

    • February 18, 2011 - 11:05 am | Permalink

      “Scooter February 18, 2011 – 9:28 am
      Joe:

      At 26 you can still be anything you want.”

      How so?

      Do you read and understand anything that is written here? Do you not see that what you have said there is false? What do you say about Jewish people lying etc?

  49. anne's Gravatar anne
    February 18, 2011 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    @Anglo-Saxon

    o, you Americans have been war-mongers for far, far longer than you realize. Don’t you narcissistic people ever read? Ever study?…

    Lol. I said in a post that location for the shift, in anywhere, was the Civil War, which is earlier than the WWII, fyi. And yes, do think there was yet another large move to centralization after wwii. But many think civil war was main shift to centralized power and empire. 1/3 of the country tried to secede or LEAVE the country (that’s what that means). Others were neutral. Easily, half the country wanted out. (There were only 33 states at that time.)
    Many Americans ceased to participate in “american” government after the civil war, or left the country, entirely, and so on. (That was in 1865, before creation of Fed.R., which was 1913.) Please read posts more thoroughly, thanks.

  50. Heather Blue's Gravatar Heather Blue
    February 18, 2011 - 10:41 am | Permalink

    Off hand, I would say Miriam K is on a roll. Ha

    I still think a huge part of the answer to the Jewish problem would be to start a relentless campaign to free the mass media. We must get out there and force the Jews out of our information system. Why aren’t we using the Internet to campaign for this cause? We could and should. Jews certainly would think about it. As a matter of fact, Mark Zuckerberg plagiarized the Face Book idea from a couple of white boys. I can’t stomach to even look at that thief.
    Jews don’t have much of a communications system, you know. They took ours and use it. How can the western world function at all without the ability to freely communicate among ourselves? As a matter of fact Jews can’t function without it, either.

    The Internet does not have the power of television or the film industry. One click of a button and television images flood our living rooms. Too, television also has the magnet of entertainment, scheduled shows …actually indoctrination presented as entertainment. What can we do about all of this? Wouldn’t it be great to put Katie Curie out of business and not have to watch her sitting there pretending to tell us the “news?” Why don’t we come up with ideas for taking back our communications system and putting a stop to indoctrination by entertainment? Just sitting around and letting the Jews get away with it without a peep or trying to work around them while allowing them to keep their power is not an option. I am not knocking any ideas that helps us – the more the better – but the bottom line is we have got to get this pack of rats out of our communications system.

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 18, 2011 - 2:09 pm | Permalink

      Heather – brilliant idea. Start thinking about how it can be done, and whether you can commit yourself to making it happen. We need HUNDREDS of different kinds of campaigns, most of which that cannot be traced to white identity politics, but which in some small way strengthen our position or pave the way to that. START THINKING ABOUT MAKING IT HAPPEN ON THE GROUND NOT JUST IN IMAGINATION. It has to happen in big reality.

  51. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 18, 2011 - 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Gender equality = divorce
    Divorce = child abuse
    Child abuse = dysfunctional adults
    Dysfunctional adults = race-mixers, jew worshippers, psychopaths, homosexuals etc.

  52. Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
    February 18, 2011 - 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Whites as a whole can change their collective thinking, to say otherwise is to aid the enemy.

    Longley believes that science has proven that behavior is hardwired from birth, so why bother with any pro-white ideas? Changes in white behavior and beliefs cannot surmount the megalith of birthrates and demographics; whites have bred themselves into their current sorry state he says. Yet in identical twins, when one twin is gay, the other is gay only 10% of the time. Does that enforce the theory of hardwired behavior? No. Longley will grasp onto the idea that it must be something that happens in the uterus – because it simply can’t be that people become gay through abnormal life experiences (that wouldn’t fit his sanitized picture). The study gives DNA a .35 and environment a .65 in determining sexuality.

    Judith Harris also found that environment (outside of family) is the strongest determinant of behavior. So what if a kid’s thinking is more influenced by the extra-family environment? That environment can be influenced – how about a national pro-white radio host? Why don’t we have one yet? And you all should hopefully understand why the “gay is normal” message is extremely dangerous.

    IQ may well be inherited but apart from some very general traits (ie – the true stereotypes of the quick-tempered Irish, laid-back Italians, meticulous Germans, etc.), behavior certainly is not.

    • February 18, 2011 - 3:12 pm | Permalink

      More nonsense.

      Judith Harris clearly didn’t know what she was writing about much of the time. Psychologists don’t as a rule. She just conjectured, basically misappropriating the work of others in Behavioural Genetics like many psychologists in ordr to slel books and keep her job probably.

      You don’t understand this and buy into pipe dreams in place of facts. This is dangerous and misleading. If you didn’t, you would have grasped by now the connections (pointed out many times now) between the massive failures of programs like Headstart, rehabilitation in criminal justice, shrinking the B-W gap, and much else besides. Non-Shared environment does not refer to peer influence which are environmental just like education etc (and parents’ influence). If it did, educators (teachers, therapists etc) and everyone else would be very happily using what many had discovered in order to raise attainment, bridge gaps, reduce offending, heal the mentally ill, etc in fact everything I keep telling you and others can not be done except by snake oil salespersons etc or by reducing the likelihood of physical damage during life (at any stage).

      All people like you do is argue. You don’t understand any of this nor can you be told. Nor do you understand the literature on sexual preference. People find groups to affiliate with because these afford opportunities to express similar genetically emitted behaviours, they find them reinforcing because of the behaviours they express genetically.

      You do not know how to read scientific papers, even when you have been told how. Are you a lab technician or hospital porter?

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      February 18, 2011 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

      Ha ha ha, the man who thinks women are attractive because they look like children thinks Judith Rich Harris doesn’t know what she is talking about.

      You must have been the most assaulted psychologist in the prison service.

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      February 18, 2011 - 8:29 pm | Permalink

      And you don’t understand “shared” vs “nonshared” environment. Nonshared can include the diamniotic womb but it also includes all those environments which uniquely affect the individual – peer groups, life experiences, trauma.

  53. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 18, 2011 - 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Brahms:
    I can’t speak for Mr. Longley, But I think he may be trying to alert people to the danger of worshiping (focusing on) race only while excluding all the other factors that make race degeneration inevitable the false God of Libertarian Democracy.
    I agree that genetics is not the end-all, be-all, of human events. However he recognizes this fact when he says that genes influence how environment will be internalized/interpreted
    You will remember the old cliche “Its hard to focus on draining the swamp, when your up to your a$$ in alligators!”
    Its the alligators that want to eat you, not the swamp itself. Thus if Jews, Negroes, etc. represent the alligators it is quite understandable to focus on them, but unless you pay at least SOME attention to the swamp, (The false Gods of Democracy) The alligators will be the last thing you see!

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 18, 2011 - 3:13 pm | Permalink

      Henry – race/ethnicity isn’t everything, but right now whites are blocked from enjoying the comforts of a shared sense of peoplehood, in a way that no other group is. Whites are also in the unique position of facing the loss of their majorities in their ancetral lands or in the societies they founded. So, please, don’t be worrying that if you support white identity you’ll be obsessing about race and genes. You won’t be. You’ll be demanding no more and no less than what every other people on Earth enjoy. Think of it in those terms because on those terms you’ll quickly see it’s your duty to do what you can.
      About Longly. The world is full of Longly’s. If he’s so intelligent he’ll be smart enough to make himself understood to the specific audience he is addressing. I can’t understand so until such time he’s willing to spell it out in terms I can understand, whether he is for the restoration of white identity, I’m going to assume he’s hosille and not waste my time.

    • February 18, 2011 - 4:14 pm | Permalink

      Henry Baxley February 18, 2011 – 2:48 pm

      “I can’t speak for Mr. Longley, But I think he may be trying to alert people to the danger of worshiping (focusing on) race only while excluding all the other factors that make race degeneration inevitable the false God of Libertarian Democracy.

      I agree that genetics is not the end-all, be-all, of human events. However he recognizes this fact when he says that genes influence how environment will be internalized/interpreted

      I have never said anything is “internalised”. That way of talking is anathema to Behaviour Analysis. It is how psychologists talk. Psychologists are like witches. They do voodoo science ;-)

      But, you are right up to that point in a general way though, so keep working at it.

      This is an alien way of talking for most, but it is worth learning. Genes drive rates of emitted operant behaviours. They were selected by the environment in past history (Natural Selection) through some effective behaviours being successful. Note, the environment selects these. Behaviours are reinforced by their outcomes/consequences.

      People seek/find opportunities (i.e environments), where they can maximise the rates of behaviours, i.e which they find reinforcing. This is described by The Matching Law (See Herrnstein 1990 etc). This is all about choice behaviour, but not as most know it.

      This is what I referred to as apposite allocation when it comes to effective behaviour management in custody, the community, education or clinical work. We do not, can not, teach or learn as many think and say we do. The way most people talk about these matters is largely superstitious, i.e pre-scientific intentional mythology. It does not work. They are deluded.

      Note, most Behaviour Analysts have given up on psychology and psychologists as a lost cause. Other social scientists (e.g classical economists) tend to talk much the same nonsense and make a mess of economies as a consequence. They are not sufficiently evidence grounded. They are far too verbal (a female trait). They thus serve the egregious interests of anarchists/Libertarians (who are prone to horde/steal money etc much like squirrels, even when they don’t need to). There is probably something very ‘wrong’ with them genetically – see Credit Crunch and USA economy ;-)

    • February 18, 2011 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

      “Mickey Meadows February 18, 2011 – 3:13 pm

      “About Longly. The world is full of Longly’s. If he’s so intelligent he’ll be smart enough to make himself understood to the specific audience he is addressing. I can’t understand so until such time he’s willing to spell it out in terms I can understand, whether he is for the restoration of white identity, I’m going to assume he’s hosille and not waste my time.”

      The world most cetainly is not full of “Longly’s”. Are you representative of your community or just the ones who pipe up because they don’t know anything and don’t like reading what they don’t understand? (And so stay forever limited). Some of this work takes years for most to grasp, and they pay for it too!

      If intellignece is Gaussian (Bell Curve) distributed, and the population is dumbing down, and if lots of people are not smart enough to grasp what tey are told, or to put the work in to grasp ever graspit, some people like them must remain forever ignorant and misguided, don’t you agree? Why should everyone put things in their terms? What a child-like sense of narcissistic entitlement. Next such people will be demanding food and social welfare payments from others too, and then the state will be rolled back to make them work for it etc. ;-)

      You are presently clueless – fact. I don’t mind ignorance, what I can’t stand is the arrogance and disrespect which often goes with it. I suspect many elitist ‘Jews’ and non-Jews don’t either. Hence class/group conflict?

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      February 18, 2011 - 4:43 pm | Permalink

      Chris Brand is quite a bit like Longley, a pro Israel psychologist who has funny ideas about pedophilia.

      The difference is that Brand can be amusing. David Lonely can’t.

    • February 18, 2011 - 5:54 pm | Permalink

      “Someday February 18, 2011 – 4:43 pm

      “Chris Brand is quite a bit like Longley, a pro Israel psychologist who has funny ideas about pedophilia.

      The difference is that Brand can be amusing. David Lonely can’t.”

      First I’m not trying to entertain or be amusing,

      I’m trying to educate those who are able to pay attention.

      Second I have neither expressed pro or con personal views with respect to Israel, I have pointed out that it is the Libertarian-Democracies’ front-line in the Middle-East. The major US/EU ally in the region. That is a fact which some here need to take on board. It is just a matter of State Department (and UK Foreign Office) policy.

      Third, where have I expressed any “funny ideas about paedophilia”?

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 18, 2011 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

      Someday said: “Chris Brand is quite a bit like Longley, a pro Israel psychologist who has funny ideas about pedophilia.

      The difference is that Brand can be amusing. David Lonely can’t.”

      I posted on an earlier thread what I thought of you and your murky motivations, Somebody. I said what needed to be said then but there are times when vermin like you just push one button too many for me to remain silent…

      The vile slop you have just posted only confirms my earlier opinions of you and your agenda.

      Your bizarre reference to paedophilia sickened me and, I’m sure, many others who read here.

      YOU are one sick, sick puppie, Sumbudy.

      Please, by all means, keep posting. We ALL need to recognize who our real enemies are and what better way is there to find that out than to read the filthy garbage creeps like you eagerly share with even those of us who have no interest in hearing the maddened, perverted screams that pass for thought in your twisted brains?

    • Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
      February 18, 2011 - 8:08 pm | Permalink

      The demographics he cites are true and the argument valid. What I’m tired of hearing is that current white behavior is immutable; I was a complete affirmative action loving liberal 10 years ago.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      February 19, 2011 - 1:54 pm | Permalink

      David Lonely, you’ve speculated that men find women attractive because they look like children.

      You sick or something?

    • February 19, 2011 - 2:24 pm | Permalink

      “Someday February 19, 2011 – 1:54 pm

      “David Lonely, you’ve speculated that men find women attractive because they look like children.

      You sick or something?”

      They don’t just look like children, they behave that way too. Females physically/behaviourally mature earlier (and stop earlier) too. Their development (including physical stature and musculature) is somewhat arrested relative to males, see also IQ). Why do you think males are inclined to look after/protect them (‘women and children first’ etc)? Why don’t most men hit women and when they do are vilified? Females behave emotionally more like children too (crying, loosing their temper easily, impulsive, more narcissistic aka self-centred etc) and some of their more attractive facial features are like those of young children, who also elicit caring behaviours. They are also given chilish names like baby, or ie at the end of their names. I’m surprised you have not noticed this. Do you think most women are like men? See also feminized males and their behaviours/features.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      February 19, 2011 - 3:19 pm | Permalink

      You are confused.
      Judith Rich Harris (that woman you say above doesn’t know what she is talking about) has a nice article, click on her name.

      I propose that a third process played a role in human evolution: parental (usually maternal) selection. Though the decision to rear or abandon a newborn was made in only a small percentage of cases, it was made again and again, over a period of more than 100,000 years. During that period the decision would have been made often enough to exert an influence on the observable characteristics of our species.

      Girls get less childlike after puberty when the changes which make them attractive to men occur.

      Read JRH’s article. OK, in a monogamous mating system women are more vulnerable to male aggression but in the modern west women want a tan. Think about it.

  54. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 18, 2011 - 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Brahms:
    Line three in the above statement should read;
    ….factors that make race degeneration inevitable, AMONG WHICH are….
    Sorry :(

  55. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 18, 2011 - 5:28 pm | Permalink

    David Longly,
    You think you are intelligent but a key characteristic of intelligence is the ability to communicate, and a key characteristic of that is being understood, and a key requirement of accomplishing THAT is adapting how you communicate for the audience.
    You aren’t doing that Longly, and as a consequence you are failing to be understood. Besides anything else we have to question whether you are deliberately being difficult to understand because you feel you have a better chance of coming across as smart and interesting if people can’t understand what you say but you manage to convince them it’s their fault.
    But tell me Longly, if you are so interesting and full of fascinating ideas, why are are farting around here and not being the darling of other bright academics? They don’t seem to think you are so fascinating.
    But given that you are here, how about you spell it out for us the great unwashed, are you for the restoration of white identity? Do you see a need for that in the current political and demographic climate? Answer the questions Longly and stop hiding.

    • February 18, 2011 - 6:22 pm | Permalink

      “Mickey Meadows February 18, 2011 – 5:28 pm

      “You think you are intelligent but a key characteristic of intelligence is the ability to communicate, and a key characteristic of that is being understood, and a key requirement of accomplishing THAT is adapting how you communicate for the audience.”

      You are writing about my ‘thinking’? Still? No. I am writing about intelligent behaviour, not about my “intelligence”. There is an important difference. You have not picked up on this even now.

      Second, you do not understand the nature of the distribution of intelligence (it’s like height and shoe size) or much else of the technical material which I have posted and linked to. That is not my problem, that is your problem. If one wishes to understand a technical issue or field one has to spend Time (and sometimes money) learning the technical language. It can not be translated i.e dumbed down, or speeded up, without distorting it. That is why it is written in a technical language, Natural Language alone is not adequate. It takes time to write papers, months often. It takes days or weeks to read and underst6and them too. You clearly do neither. You appear to be lazy from what you have nt done given the links. Lazy and stupid sadly often go together. Lazy stupid people should know and accept their limitations and show respect to those who are not like them. These days they do not. That is their arrogance and narcissistic entitlement. Long ago that appeared to be less common. People got on and helped one another recognizing and respecting such individual differences. People like you appear to demand the impossible, just like some children, and then, complain when they don’t get what they want for nothing, on their terms, immediately – blaming others for their failure. See narcissistic entitlement. It is everywhere in the Libertarian-Democracies. It is arrested development. Lower intelligence. People can’t grasp what is going on but blame everyone else instead for their lack of skills, their problems.

      “You aren’t doing that Longly, and as a consequence you are failing to be understood.”

      By people like yourself perhaps. That is somewhat inevitable. I am not concerned. There are many like that. See dysgenic fertility or the film idiocracy. It is a function of the distribution of abilities. Diversity. You seem to think everyone is the same. If that is so, what have you got against other races?

      “Besides anything else we have to question whether you are deliberately being difficult to understand because you feel you have a better chance of coming across as smart and interesting if people can’t understand what you say but you manage to convince them it’s their fault.”

      This is your failing. The material is out there for people to read if they are shown. If you don’t, or can’t be bothered to read it you won’t understand. You may never understand if you are not bright enough. If that is so you should show respect. Each post you write just makes me think you are wasting my time.

      Got it? if not watch this and let it sink in. if it doesn’t sink in, read around it.

      Hope this helps.

  56. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 18, 2011 - 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Longly said “If that is so, what have you got against other races?
    Who said that I have anything against other races? What has wanting one’s own people to survive got to do with having something against other races? You give yourself away with such statements.

  57. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 18, 2011 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

    David Longly,
    You didn’t answer the simple question I gave you, and it is for this reason you make yourself suspicious. If you don’t believe there is any need for ethnic Europeans to recover their sense of shared peoplehood, you have no purpose here. There are plenty of clever academics who DO SUPPORT that principle, and they will be welcomed.

    You say that I don’t understand the distribution of IQ, but you don’t any way of knowing that. Your assumption is that you are intelligent, but it isn’t mine. My assumption until you do something to show otherwise, is that you are a useless old burnout who is only able to feel superior by hanging around with what he supposes are uninformed people and baffling them with deliberately opaque verbiage.

    Show I’m wrong Longly, and that you are well motivated, by answering the simple question. Are you here because you have seen a need for the restoration of a shared sense of peoplehood among ethnic Europeans?

    If you will simply confirm that’s why you are here, I will take for it and going forward I’ll be willing to make the effort to understand your message.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 19, 2011 - 1:35 am | Permalink

      @ Mickey Meadows …
      You can’t even spell David Longley’s name correctly (Longly) so how can we expect you to utilize sufficient intelligence to translate David Longley’s intelligent advice and free data into knowledge?

      Your hostile comments against David Longley read like a churlish and ignorant rant. Indeed, that is precisely what they are.

      What have YOU contributed of material worth to this website that even comes close to just 10% of Longley’s contributions??

      Okay, so he writes a lot of comment; too many for most people’s liking, but a significant proportion of them are actually worth their weight in gold. If you cannot see that, then surely this is your problem; not anyone else’s.

      But, does the high frequency of Longley’s commenting justify you authoring bizarre, personal attacks against him on a website owned and operated by Professor MacDonald?? Don’t you think that is an abuse of privilege? Just a little bit rude??

      If you want to write empty minded abuse against someone, why don’t YOU disappear and go start your own blog?

      There you can rant against anyone you take a personal dislike to … ’till kingdom’s come. And I’d wager you would attract virtually zero readers. Except perhaps “Jason Shrieks”; this website’s favourite freak; who we’d happily transfer over to your new blog to act as your personal mascot.

      Every website needs a “troll” apparently, and as the boy Jason shrieks “troll” every time he has been made to look like the puny minded creep he is, then by taking Jason Shrieks with you, you’d instantly have all you need. A Jew-troll in attendance!

  58. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 18, 2011 - 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Longley:
    Unlike most here, I appreciate your input on these vital issues. You obviously have a brilliant mind and are well educated/read, Unlike myself, who was draged kicking and screaming to get a G.E.D. and then a little community college.
    I find your links especially enlightening when I can understand them. I think you would be able to enlighten more people however, if you were just a tad more diplomatic :)
    I agree that Psychology is LARGELY voodo science, and has sold out to the pop psychology, PC crowd since the 60s. But I remind you that Skinner was himself a Psychologist, and Operant and Classical Conditioning is Psychological term
    I watched the video…second time… “America’s Perfect Storm” They are dead on correct about what is happening in America…But they don’t mention the perfect storm of world population growth on the one hand and the mechanization of labor on the other.. both of which are exacerbated and encouraged by Democracy
    Democracy; Government of the lowest common denominator

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 18, 2011 - 8:04 pm | Permalink

      But Henry, Longly doesn’t support the raison de etre of this site. There are a million other places that you and he can visit if you are interested in the plethora of other ways in which the problems of the world can be interpreted.
      At root this isn’t about the way Longly is communicating, it’s that he doesn’t support the central principle that ethnic Europeans will not survive as a distinctive group unless they recover some sense of their own peoplehood and…..worth.
      If you want to be interested in Longly’s ideas, there are some really good alternative venues to discuss those ideas. But if you are here because you’ve realized the same things most others here have realized, then the question for you is why you don’t find Longly suspicious in that he obviously hasn’t had those realizations and seems to be here to educate people in his personal vision (that apparently no one else is beating his door down for).

    • February 19, 2011 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

      Mickey Meadows February 18, 2011 – 8:04 pm

      “But Henry, Longly doesn’t support the raison de etre of this site. There are a million other places that you and he can visit if you are interested in the plethora of other ways in which the problems of the world can be interpreted.
      At root this isn’t about the way Longly is communicating, it’s that he doesn’t support the central principle that ethnic Europeans will not survive as a distinctive group unless they recover some sense of their own peoplehood and…..worth.”

      How will people do that? Have you not been taking in what the evidence shows? People can not just pick and choose what they are, how they behave etc. Pursuing such magical, lofty/grandiose verbal rhetoric as you and others espouse is at the expense of more mundane directions which people such as myself (cf Skinner) point out. You don’t look or listen. You don’t spend enough time on anything to see the basics of what is being pointed out. You don’t go looking. You distract and waste your own and others’ time with pointless verbal abuse and emotion. That is classic, feminized-brain rhetoric, and it’s not just (Some(Jewish)) people who are prone to such behaviours. When criticised, all you do is lash out like a female.

  59. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 18, 2011 - 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Mr Brahms:

    I would love to hear the story of why you changed your mind on affirmative action.

    • February 19, 2011 - 9:08 am | Permalink

      The first major thing that happened was that I lived in the Caribbean for two years and saw how blacks treated whites when blacks were the majority in both government and population. Up to that point, I would rationalize a guy with low slung pants and criminal intent with a preconceived notion that all human beings were equal. Since all humans were equal, he must be behaving this way because of outside forces (cycle of poverty, white racism; I still hold to this premise of equality but I was wrong on what the outside forces were). Yet in the Caribbean, there could be no white racism. I came to reject the “cycle of poverty” idea when I looked at what has happened to blacks since Civil Rights. Since the 60s, black illegitimacy, crime, general civility, literacy, have all gotten worse and that has happened in spite of welfare, housing, affirmative action, quotas, forced integration, (and now cell phones!!!) etc.. I came to understand that enabling of behaviors is the problem and that the increasing illegitimacy is driving out the intelligent and hardworking blacks from the population. It took a while to find out who was behind Civil Rights and all the subsequent pro-black programs – Jewish leaders of NAACP etc..

      On the idea of equality: I think we are seeing a pushing of the curve to the left (or right) where smart blacks are being driven out through differential birth rates – there are many blacks with high IQs but they are not the one’s having 6 kids. It is this majority of low IQ blacks that is the cause of the obvious black racism seen today (Color of Crime).

      Affirmative Action – this program as essentially succeeded only in admitted sub-par students – the problem with blacks starts way before college.

  60. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 18, 2011 - 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Concerning Comrade Longley and Pedophilia:

    I have read virtually all his writings here and going 15 years back on the internet. (You can find him by googling “David Longley crackpot”)
    He hasn’t made a lot of friends, but he has never discussed or endorsed pedophilia. I don’t know what he is up to with his ponderous posts and unpopular pontifications, but it is unfair to accuse him of that.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 18, 2011 - 10:34 pm | Permalink

      Nice catch, Scooter. Wow, this guy has been posting stuff for a lonnnng time.

  61. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 18, 2011 - 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Jason:

    Thanks – he hasn’t made too many friends around the world while doing it. I’m betting he has a genetic predisposition to alienate.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 19, 2011 - 1:49 am | Permalink

      @ Scooter …
      You should know better than to encourage the commenter Jason Shrieks.

      If you have so much time to fritter away, then perhaps INSTEAD of getting all obsessed over David Longley’s numerous contributions, like a raving fool, AND trying to amateurishly psychoanalyze him here on Professor MacDonald’s website, you instead go back and review the numerous comments posted by Jason Shrieks.

      Read what the “boy Jason” has contributed over several months and dwell on it. Then compare his miserable and subversive efforts with those of David Longley (in qualitative terms!).

      Then ask yourself this question: How could I have been so stupid?

  62. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 19, 2011 - 3:48 am | Permalink

    @anglo-saxon, well…since I’ve also been put on moderation I shall have to assume your view reflects the view of the site owner, so I am going to leave. But I find it really said and pathetic that someone like longly can’t be seen through. I mean, really. What chance is there is people can’t recognize basic ‘bullshit baffles brains’ when they see it? What hope will you make your real world contribution, whatever that will be, assuming you ever intend to do anything real.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 19, 2011 - 12:52 pm | Permalink

      @ Mickey Meadows …
      Basically, I am asking you to put away your raw emotions and calm down. You are displaying childish disrespect when you can’t even bring yourself to spell Longley’s name correctly. Me calling Jason Speaks … “Jason Shrieks” … is something else entirely because Jason, aka Joshua, aka Jehovah (!!) offers little or nothing of material value. He is only here to distract and manipulate. I have seen such people attending other Blogs and Forums. Some of them are actually being paid to monitor and subvert websites like this one. This isn’t paranoia. It is reality.

      Look. I am not blind. I can see the same things you can, but I choose not to get worked up about most of them.

      You don’t yet know what is “bullshit” and what is not regarding David Longley’s contributions. That will take far more time, and study, to work out. But, I do know for sure that he has contributed information here of great value and import. And he has done that generously, magnanimously, and in the face of some very exaggerated hostility.

      You appear to have a habit of just jumping in, with arms flaying, making demands on what are, in reality, anonymous people. David Longley is genuine, you can be sure of that. But remember we are online here, in a virtual world (not a real one). You can be sure there are those sitting “in the wings” waiting to exploit the discord that your intemperate comments about him are creating.

      Longley is posting very frequently for reasons we will never exactly know. And why do we need to know? Just be thankful that someone with deep knowledge about some very important matters affecting all people of European descent has decided to post comments here!

      There is also someone posting very regularly here who, according to his active times, is likely posting from Israel. Now, why would anyone living in Israel want to post here at TOO?? Is not investigating that far more important than getting all worked up over the contributions of someone who has provide unique insights into our collective behaviours?

      Mickey … you and certain others need to learn to calm down and control your emotions. It is embarrassing to read some of the invective that has been posted here at TOO against Longley because he is actually trying to help! Can’t you see that? You have the brains and intelligence to understand many new things, but you will never do so when you keep flying into childish tantrums just because someone doesn’t do what you want them to do.

      Chill out. Take up Yoga or Tai Chi. Improve your focus and thereby make yourself a better man.

  63. James's Gravatar James
    February 19, 2011 - 7:35 am | Permalink

    “About Longly. The world is full of Longly’s. If he’s so intelligent he’ll be smart enough to make himself understood to the specific audience he is addressing. I can’t understand so until such time he’s willing to spell it out in terms I can understand, whether he is for the restoration of white identity, I’m going to assume he’s hosille and not waste my time.”

    Thums up to you.

    When reading Longley’s pseudo-academic rants, I’m reminded of the writings of George Lincoln Rockwell. He contended that liberalism in it’s modern form is fundamentally illogical and had to therefore hide it’s contradictions behind obfuscation and jargon.

    Longley is much the same, I’m not sure what his world view is, if he could boil it down to a couple of concise paragraphs, I might be able to decide if I agree with him or not. He instead gives the appearance of intellectual superiority cloaked in impenetrable jargon and linked to obscure studies he know no one will read. My suspicion is that when it’s all boiled down, ultimately we will find there is no coherent world view, just a resolute desire for argument and agitation.

    The danger of Longley and his enablers is they demoralise people, we are not a Phd psychology debating forum, we are ultimately White advocates who focus on the Jewish issue. This is a simple message and a compelling one, we have no need for elitism and academic snobbery. Long winded debates about psychology framed in academic terms simply demoralise people who are new to our important cause and turns them off.

    I came to TOO as the writings answered questions which had been rattling round my head regarding White dispossession and it’s causes, not to engage in debates in frustrating and inpenetrable debates about psychology and I will be glad when Longley gets bored and trolls somewhere else.

  64. James's Gravatar James
    February 19, 2011 - 7:56 am | Permalink
    • February 19, 2011 - 8:30 am | Permalink

      That’s interesting – seems Longley’s schtick is to tell people they don’t have the capacity to understand anything he says; quite an argument.

    • February 19, 2011 - 9:04 am | Permalink

      Brahms February 19, 2011 – 8:30 am

      “That’s interesting – seems Longley’s schtick is to tell people they don’t have the capacity to understand anything he says; quite an argument.”

      Not an argument (listen to the four questions and answers very carefully in the audio at the SEAB website), but a description of an empirical (and in your case repeatedly demonstrable), behavioural fact. Despite many efforts to get you to grasp something you still have not. Others have. Why?

      This follows from the Normal Distribtion (Bell Curve) of what’s referred to as IQ – i.e human ‘cognitive’ diversity. It is not good or bad to be at any position in this distrubtion, but there are consequences when one looks at the numbers and changes over time. We are (evidently) not all the same. Nor can we be made so, nor should we try to. One would have thought many here would know this, or is it the case that this fact only applies to everyone else? Is it the case that you might be a closet (or unwitting) Libertarian equalitarian (anarchist) in your behaviour? This is a serious point to be thought through.

      It is heuristic, not ‘offensive’.

    • February 19, 2011 - 9:30 am | Permalink

      I would call myself a nationalist. The only thing I haven’t grasped is this idea that its anarchism that is running the world – I don’t see it. I see Jewish hands in almost every problem that now faces the Western World – start with immigration and who pushed the repeal the Immigration Act in the U.S..

      There is no audio on the SEAB website homepage.

    • February 19, 2011 - 9:54 am | Permalink

      Brahms February 19, 2011 – 9:30 am

      “I would call myself a nationalist. The only thing I haven’t grasped is this idea that its anarchism that is running the world – I don’t see it. I see Jewish hands in almost every problem that now faces the Western World – start with immigration and who pushed the repeal the Immigration Act in the U.S..

      There is no audio on the SEAB website homepage”

      ‘Looking’ is an intensional idiom of propositional attitude. A psychological verb. If one does not see something, is it not there? To believe so is solipsism, which is ego-centric. It is also classic narcissisism. Not all narcissism is pathological. Narcissism is part of normal healthy development, and self-esteem too, see grooming etc.

      Anarchism = without rule. Without regulations. See deregulation by Libertarians.

      Go and have a look at the Austrian School or Chicago School of economics. These are anarchistic. See Mises website.

      ‘Seeing’ is an intensional idiom of propositional attitude.

      One learns by being wrong. Being wrong is not a bad thing. Failing to acknowledge having been wrong is not good for development. It is a sign of arrested development.

    • February 19, 2011 - 10:09 am | Permalink

      How does deregulation explain modern immigration? Why has open immigration not been adopted in Israel?

    • February 19, 2011 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

      ” Brahms February 19, 2011 – 10:09 am

      “How does deregulation explain modern immigration?”

      I have been through all of this. Repeatedly. I suggest you go and read past comments. Carefully.

      “Why has open immigration not been adopted in Israel?”

      As to Israel. It’s a demographic warzone, i.e. they have their own demographic war to wage, as do the Palestinians. The former does encourage Jewish immigration, from all over the world. One of the ways that is done is through some actively fostering mild anti-semitism, which paradoxically is good for Zionism, and where that fails to facilate migration to Israel, it reinforces Jewish group cohesion.

    • February 19, 2011 - 12:33 pm | Permalink

      Maybe you’ll feel compelled to answer the question in the future.

      So Israel doesn’t play the game. How has Israel been able to opt out of the anarchist’s economic model while Europe, America, others have not? Does that not seem strange to you?

    • February 19, 2011 - 3:49 pm | Permalink

      Brahms February 19, 2011 – 12:33 pm

      “So Israel doesn’t play the game. How has Israel been able to opt out of the anarchist’s economic model while Europe, America, others have not? Does that not seem strange to you?”

      No.

      Look into the TFRs of secular Jews, Orthodox, and Ultra-Orthodox. Look at the relationship between secular and the others in Israel.

      What is the wealth of the latter relative to the former (in Israel, UK and USA)?

      Did you look up UK Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sachs on the ‘me me me’ problem?

    • February 19, 2011 - 4:20 pm | Permalink

      Brahms February 19, 2011 – 12:33 pm

      “Maybe you’ll feel compelled to answer the question in the future.”

      If you can struggle against that narcissism, go back to the beginning of January and work through my comments carefully. Look at the demographics of NYC for example, and some of my hints. On at least one occasion I pointed out that there is a negative correlation between TFR and IQ, and a positive correlation between IQ and SES/GDP/Income. What is the likely importance of that here?

      Bear in mind what I have repeatedly said about classes and ‘quantifying in. How does one ascribe group membership? What did I say about the mathematical logic of the two logical quantifiers? What have I said repeatedly about ethnic groups (race) and IQ – i.e as an important methodological problem of reference? What may account for a higher (predominantly verbal) IQ amongst one group, and what/who might have not been measured and why? In one unpublished study, which was possibly going to go into the 2006 paper, there were many less boys in the UK Maintained (faith) School cohort than girls…..

      Why might that have been. What has this got to do with my previous comment? What might you, and Kevin McD (and many others) have been missing through an over-eagerness to psychologically abstract in term of class membership?

      Science is about examining measured functional relations between classes and then looking more closely into how one has classed. All great scientific breakthroughs have been like that. Through looking at what had been taken for granted through too coarse a grained analysis. Hence ‘Fragments of Behaviour: The Extensional Stance’ Look into the Operant example I gave there. It was about work on LC NE in the brain and reinforcement/configuring/stress in the 70s. See Two Dogmas of Empiricism, last third of the paper. The first two third is a damning critique of intensionalism.

      Why dio I advise someone here to look into Crow and the psychoses. What was the connection?

    • February 19, 2011 - 6:29 pm | Permalink

      David, you’re pontificating again and you just filled up several paragraphs with interrogatives when you could have simply explained yourself. On to Israel -
      I’m not sure what you’re getting at with TFRs, the fact is Israel does not have a multicultural state and makes immigration of non-Jews very difficult. While the Western white world is flooded with non-whites, Israel keeps itself Jewish. Your theory of anarchist capitalism causing depopulation and thus immigration does not work for Israel. Why is Israel special?

    • February 19, 2011 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

      Brahms February 19, 2011 – 6:29 pm

      “David, you’re pontificating again and you just filled up several paragraphs with interrogatives when you could have simply explained yourself.”

      Obviously.

      So why diod you not do as instructed?

      Two hours elapsed between my instruction and you responding. That was insufficient time for you to have done as you were advised.

      “On to Israel -
      I’m not sure what you’re getting at with TFRs..”,

      Evidently. So why didn’t I spell it out?

      You never will understand at this rate. It will all keep passing you by. It will ‘sail right over your head’. That’s what happens with most impetuous, child-like people. That’s why there’s so little hope given the USA ETS data. You are far too impulsive. You don’t patiently observe the consequences of your actions, nor will you take instruction. You’re lost in words and petty ego-centricism.

      You’re lazy and display entitlement.

  65. Brahms's Gravatar Brahms
    February 19, 2011 - 8:14 am | Permalink

    You have one nice paragraph on the 19th where you addressed his use of “libertarian”; Longley replied with something like, “you lack the mental capacity to fathom the meaning of my words”.

  66. February 19, 2011 - 8:36 am | Permalink

    “Brahms February 19, 2011 – 8:14 am

    “You have one nice paragraph on the 19th where you addressed his use of “libertarian”; Longley replied with something like, “you lack the mental capacity to fathom the meaning of my words”.”

    The above shows you have not grasped the problem of substitutivity of identicals salva veritate in intensional (psychological) contexts such as ‘said that’.

    “There can be no quotation except direct quotation”

    What is the rest of the extract?

  67. February 19, 2011 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    Yes Longley, it wasn’t an actual quote – can’t pull the wool over your eyes. You’re probably right about “substitutivity of identicals salva veritate”; who’s he play for again?

  68. February 19, 2011 - 9:32 am | Permalink

    Found the audio.

  69. S Fowler's Gravatar S Fowler
    February 19, 2011 - 4:24 pm | Permalink

    The thirteenth annual, weeklong U.S. Open Music Competition held in Oakland, California just finished up yesterday. Go to their website and check the names of the winners. Bear in mind that virtually all of the music the children played was composed by White men.

    http://www.usomc.org/winners/winners.html

  70. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 19, 2011 - 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Again, Anglo Saxon is a troll. Note that AS has had not one negative word to say about Serveris, who was a destructive troll and an agent provocateur, who even went to the trouble to create a fake website extolling the virtues of freaks in an attempt to make White Advocacy look bad . That site suddenly disappeared, so it was an obvious sham.

    Why didn’t AS ever utter criticism of a troll as destructive as Severis? Because AS is a troll too.

    Eventually he’ll change names, and try some trivially different approach. And then he’ll be outted again. Pretty sad.

    Meanwhile, the real scientists in various fields are accumulating evidence necessary to prove race-realism. Haidt is just one of many. Change is coming and the trolls can’t stop it.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 20, 2011 - 3:04 am | Permalink

      Answer the question Anglo Saxon. Why have you had zero criticism for known and exposed trolls such as severis and Der Weenerschnitzel? You save all your hostility for people that are obviously pro-White.

      If you had any serious concern for White Advocacy or for the work of MacDonald, you would have been calling them out.

      I still wonder if Sever*s was related to the Wikipedia operators in some say. But AS had no problem with him. None. Even though the guy made up a fake Neo-N*zi site and posted links to it hundreds of times. You remained silent and still remain silent on the issue. Instead you try and sew dissension between American White and European Whites.

      Because you are a troll.

    • February 20, 2011 - 8:01 am | Permalink

      Jason Speaks February 20, 2011 – 3:04 am

      “Answer the question Anglo Saxon. Why have you had zero criticism for known and exposed trolls such as severis and Der Weenerschnitzel? You save all your hostility for people that are obviously pro-White. “

      Either you are not very bright, are very self-centred (narcissistic) , and/or you are here primarily to disrupt and distract like the feminine-brained. These behaviours are classic Axis II, Cluster B attention-seeking behaviours for their own sake, not to make a point, and are just disruptive for that purpose.

      You have been told many times now that the problem with the ad hominem (and look into its positive variants too which are about falsely believing what people say because of some equally irrelevant attributes such as their being famous i.e a celebrity, pretty etc. or an expert in some other unrelated domain) is wrong because it is irrational distraction, i.e. it is logically irrelevant.

      There are several others who behave much the same way here. Are they all just not very bright spatially/logically/empirically? Do they just need company? Do they behave much like females? Males tend to communicate to problem-solve. Do we see you problem-solving?

      You persist in focusing on what does not matter even when corrected. This is is how those with arrested development behave. They can not see what is going on. They keep missing the point all the time because they can not see what is the point. They just keep describing their own ill-informed points of view and can’t be educated. It’s like kids saying they think Sine=Adjacent over Hypotenuse despite correction, or 2+3=7.

      Some here have been repeatedly critical of such behaviours emitted by people such as yourself because it is irrational and highly disruptive. It is irrelevant to focus on features of the person saying something, unless those features are what are being discussed as part of the issue of concern. I am highlighting your behaviours in this respect because they are anarchistic. They just serve to disrupt. This is often seen in many females who like putting on a show to attract, lure away. It is just an attention seeking ‘dance’. You seem to have nothing substantive to say, you just want to have ‘fun’.

      Can you change your behaviour, or are you trapped by it?
      The problem with such behaviour is that giving it attention like this (narcissistic supply) serves to reinforce it.

      Ironically, it is how ‘trolls’ behave. Hence ‘don’t feed the trolls’.

      ;-(

  71. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 19, 2011 - 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Mr Saxon:

    Jason has always been fair and courteous to me, and I’ve liked what I’ve read of his so far. You, on the other hand, I’ve not paid much atention to until now. Since you took it upon yourself to gratiutously insult me, I’m going to read up on you.

    • February 19, 2011 - 7:57 pm | Permalink

      Scooter February 19, 2011 – 5:36 pm

      “Mr Saxon:
      Jason has always been fair and courteous to me, and I’ve liked what I’ve read of his so far. You, on the other hand, I’ve not paid much atention to until now. Since you took it upon yourself to gratiutously insult me, I’m going to read up on you.”

      Maybe Jason doesn’t care what you think really? Maybe he just courts narcissistic supply like many a female? People who find others who point out their errors ‘insulting’ tend to assume that they can do little wrong and/or have little to learn from others. Such people (and they are very common – see dysgenic IQ distributions) tend to be frequently wrong too, it’s just that most smart people give up on them, give them wide berth etc. You are often wrong. You don’t like having that pointed out, but that makes you a poor ‘learner’, which tends to go with being bigoted/prejudiced etc, and avoided by people who might hekp.

      You argue, but not logically. This is very ‘American’. Very anarchistic. Very Libertarian. This female behaviour (they tend to natter for attention and contact not for learning) is why females tend not to be trusted to build anything. See soft psychology and their very low frequency in the Chinese Government and elsewhere outside of the Libertarian-Democracies (which are literally dying out but for immigration!).

      See if you can change your verbal behaviour here at least.

    • Anglo Saxon's Gravatar Anglo Saxon
      February 20, 2011 - 2:58 am | Permalink

      Be my guest, Scooter.

      Meanwhile, the bulk of us shall continue to wonder what perversions attract you to Jason’s continuing attempts to seduce you.

  72. Concerned Observer's Gravatar Concerned Observer
    February 19, 2011 - 11:08 pm | Permalink

    David Longley,

    Please put up or shut up. Write an article for TOO. Or, explain your viewpoints concisely and clearly.

    Otherwise, most will understand you to be a troll, malicious Jew, or simply an underpaid/underemployed crank who likes getting attention by posting esoteric nonsense.

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      February 20, 2011 - 11:14 am | Permalink

      I agree. See reply to post below.

  73. Request for Mr. Longley's Gravatar Request for Mr. Longley
    February 19, 2011 - 11:11 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Longley,

    So many have accused you of being a troll, element of subversion, or simply a crank. I have my suspicions about your true motives, as do many others.

    So many have asked for a clear explanation of your viewpoints. I ask for the same, and I would also like you to answer: Do you support the advancement of White interests?

    Why don’t you write an article for TOO or post your main thesis. All you do is insult people, link to scientific studies, and accuse people of not knowing what “libertarian” means. You seem to be too intelligent to not notice your own utter failure to communicate your ideas, which is why so many people think you’re a troll and a distraction. Clear the air.

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      February 20, 2011 - 11:09 am | Permalink

      I agree. Here’s what I wrote before I saw your post:

      David Longley,

      I have a question. Please excuse me if it’s been asked and answered before, but I wouldn’t be aware of that. I tend not to read the comment exchanges that involve the name “David Longley”, as they usually degenerate into petty squabbles about one thing or another. That’s a shame, because in the bits and snippets I have looked at, you come across as a bright and articulate person, which makes me all the more curious…

      Why does a prominent (or at least professional) psychologist spend so much time getting into flame wars on a right wing blog with people who, according to you, are beyond intellectual redemption? I would imagine you have a lot of papers to write, grants to pursue or research to conduct. Those activities take time. It’s a little puzzling.

      Or would be puzzling if your website wasn’t so rudimentary. Or that google searches seem to bring up nothing more than your website and posts on the Occidental Observer.

      And to everyone else: If David is the fraud that he seems to be, than why are we directing so much effort and attention towards him? His only goal could be to make TOO posts look like a chaotic frenzy. He seems to be succeeding.

    • Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
      February 20, 2011 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

      I think Mr. longley has succumbed to the same affliction he (sometimes rightly imo) accuses others of, namely, a myopic focus on his own personal whipping boy to the exclusion of all else.
      He points out the folly of WORSHIPPING race. while at the same time WORSHIPPING statistical analytics and denying the validity of all else. That said, He has directed me to several enlightening links and has not been overtly hostile to any that were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
      David; you must know that your STYLE is that of a troll or attention whore…if you can’t fool ‘em with facts, baffle em with bull ____ …..When in trouble dive in the dust-bin of semantics. What exactly IS your agenda???
      Mine is to warn people of the dangers of worshipping the false gods of Judeochristianity, “freedom” “equality” “diversity” or any other man-made artifical concept that runs counter to Natural Law…Especially democracy.

    • February 20, 2011 - 1:43 pm | Permalink

      Jim February 20, 2011 – 11:09 am

      “Why does a prominent (or at least professional) psychologist spend so much time getting into flame wars on a right wing blog with people who, according to you, are beyond intellectual redemption? I would imagine you have a lot of papers to write, grants to pursue or research to conduct. Those activities take time. It’s a little puzzling.

      ..Or that google searches seem to bring up nothing more than your website and posts on the Occidental Observer.”

      Note how you don’t focus on what has actually been posted here, following that up? Instead you waste time on irrelevant distractions. Conclusion, like many others writing like you, you’re lost, with no idea how to recognise what’s true or false without some guru to guide you. Isn’t that what Kevin McD. writes is typical of the people he finds such fault with? Is your behaviour not typical of how they are said to behave?

      Do only Jewish people behave that way? If not, why the problem with just Jews?

    • February 20, 2011 - 1:57 pm | Permalink

      Henry Baxley February 20, 2011 – 12:25 pm

      “What exactly IS your agenda???>blockquote>

      If there si one, it’s to educate those who are educable, and learn from those who have something useful to say.

      Many clearly are not interested in neither. They’ll continue behaving defiantly/stupidly, and others will make a little fame and/or capital out of them.

    • February 20, 2011 - 2:03 pm | Permalink

      “Many clearly are not interested in either

      How many here understood the problem with Non-Shared Environment as an explanation, the implications for “birds of a feather” and the folly of the rest which is sadly just false “common-sense”?

    • February 20, 2011 - 3:05 pm | Permalink

      “Henry Baxley February 20, 2011 – 12:25 pm

      “I think Mr. longley has succumbed to the same affliction he (sometimes rightly imo) accuses others of, namely, a myopic focus on his own personal whipping boy to the exclusion of all else.
      He points out the folly of WORSHIPPING race. while at the same time WORSHIPPING statistical analytics and denying the validity of all else….
      David; you must know that your STYLE is that of a troll or attention whore…if you can’t fool ‘em with facts, baffle em with bull ____ …..When in trouble dive in the dust-bin of semantics.”

      Look at the title of this thread. What was my substantive criticism? What has your comment got to do with any of that criticism?

      Look at what I have said elsewhere about constructing imaginary psychological states totally unrelated to what is written, which then serve as non truth functional, spurious, pseudo-explanations, which just annoyingly distract from what is written. That is what has to change if anything else is going to.

      Most people do not like having their core (fallacious) ways of dealing with the world shown up to be nonsense. That is what’s upsetting so many people here. They want to carry on blaming the wrong group of people for all their woes, (and some make a living from this). In fact, it is their own behaviours which are the problem. Their own crude arrested development and anarchism, plus lack of respect for people who know and behave better. That anarchism serves the markets, that is what equalitarianism is about, lack of respect. This is why many in the USA were indoctrinated for decades to fear a mythical ‘red menace’ or Evil Empire of state regulation… It was largely to keep regulation and order at home at bay, so others could make money out of the naive, anarchistic and gullible.

    • February 20, 2011 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

      Look! There appears to be a sudden outburst of entitled, outraged, anonymous (i.e. unidentifiable), posters, all grandly demanding explanations which have so far already been shown to be a waste of time on them, as they just don’t get it. Such entitlement is characteristic of deluded equalitarianians who are slowly poisoning the USA and other Libertarian-Democracies (characterised by ever growing levels of dysgenic irrationality and impudent lack of respect).

      How can Non-Shared environment (as teaching or expaining here) be any more efficiacious than parenting? There’s no evidence to support it, which worries many ‘psychologists’ as their very jobs depend on that not being the casee. If there were, the B-W gap, for instance, would have shrunk through HeadStart or teaching programmes etc, and we would have stopped offenders from re-offending. Instead this just continues to get worse and worse. Why?

    • Jim's Gravatar Jim
      February 20, 2011 - 7:42 pm | Permalink

      A message to everyone EXCEPT David Longley:

      Do you see what’s happening here? Even when called out, his tactic is to try to draw you into a flame war with an insult that has little to do with the matter at hand. Why are we wasting time responding to this person? It seems his only goal is to make TOO look like it’s frequented by a bunch of squabbling hot heads. It troubles me every time I see him succeed.

      I mean, do what you want. It’s just my opinion. Just felt like I had to say something.

  74. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    February 20, 2011 - 2:22 am | Permalink

    What works for me is to impeach the source. I don’t discourage my kids from watching TV or going to the movies. I just engage in my own “culture of critique.”

    There is an outline that is followed on television/movies that is so formulaic it’s funny. I tell them what to expect and then let them go.

    The Rainbow Forces of Diversity (any FBI or PD, USA)

    1) White hero with Irish surname shagging some Puerto Rican chick whose Abuela has some obvious Negro blood. Usually has brown hair and hazel eyes.

    2) Wise, world-weary Jewish guy as friend and advisor. He is usually shagging some brainy Asian chick.

    3) Black computer whiz. He is usually shagging some blonde model.

    4) Dopey, dumb White guy with some equally dopey, dumb White wife. Usually has a Slavic name.

    5) Red Herring Race Suspect – Usually non-White, but looks guilty. Never is. Usually some “undocumented immigrant” who is living the shadows, waaaaah! Boohoo, sniffle.

    6) Blonde-haired blue eyed WASP type who could be a poster boy for Hitler Youth. Dunh-dunh, DUNH! Yup, he’s the villain. Wants to take the country back to when men were men, women and minorities knew their place, ships were made of wood and sheep were very scared.

    When they get home, I ask them how accurate I was and I have a great batting average, LOL. In any case, humor and ridicule is a great way to deal with the poisonous drips of Anti-White cultural poison. And I know my kids tell their friends (because I have heard them do it) and I know those kids will tell other kids.

  75. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 20, 2011 - 6:37 pm | Permalink

    David Longley – I had said I was leaving but when I checked back today I saw that quite a few people shared my concerns about your motives. However, what I first want to say to you is, sorry for my previous intemperate language. What I would like to now is first say that had I thought for sure you were ill motivated I would simply ignore you. But because you seem so educated and with something to say, I feel that ‘we’ need people like you so much so that I was prepared to forgo my instincts and see if there was a way to clarify your purpose. What I will do now, is give it one more ‘shot’ and if something good comes from it then that’s fabulous, and if not I am going to politely put you on my live and let live list and not interact with you again. Is that alright with you? Please be willing to be sensitive to what I ask you and to your own instincts as to what my likely personal limitations are and try to shape your response accordingly. Alternatively, you may choose to ignore or hit me with another barrage of stuff that is incomprehensibe to me :O)

    I will characterize my point to you in terms of Kevin Macdonald, whom I assume you value in intellectual terms and in terms of knowledge. Macdonald is someone I naturally trust for the simple reason I can see that in speaking up on conscience, he must have made an incredible personal sacrifice in terms of his career. Even if I didn’t agree with him I would still respect that sacrifice. The other reason I trust him is that although I can clearly perceive he is well above my intellectual pay grade, he still manages to express his position in a way that is not just accessible to me personally, but also to people who are less intelligent than me, as well as to people who are much more intelligent than me. Different ‘grades’ may take away different levels of insight, but there is something there for everyone. Also, I appreciate his intellect because he consistently returns to and reinforces key points. This is true not just in his critique of the current political climate, the strategies of mobilised Jewry, but also in terms of what we are facing in the medium and long term, what we need to achieve to counter that in the medium and longer term. His intellectual/political/activist positions are clear and regularly repeated, returned to, reinforced.

    When you ask people to go and read your previous comments, you are asking from them a commitement to do something with their time that they could be using to do something else. When I originally said “the world is full of Longly’s” (by ‘longly’ I was kind of saying longlie, or in other words ‘very long winded lies’, which I do apologize for although that was the impression I acquired over a period of time reading your comments).

    All I ask, and all I perceive many others are asking, is that you first provide a clear and unambiguous statement as to whether, when all else is taken account of, you do want to help white ethnies in their upcoming struggle to regain a sense of shared ‘whatever’. I can’t speak for other people, but the reason I asked you to confirm this simple intention, is that my intuition about you informed me that whatever you believe, whatever you stand for, you are a man of personal integrity. I don’t believe you would be willing to tell a bald faced lie because I think that would go against your personal values. So that is why I ask you to confirm this simple principle in a simple statement. I wouldn’t normally ask for this, because most of our enemies would be more than willing to lie about such a thing. But in my judgement, not you.

    If, for whatever reason, you feel you can’t support that singular purpose, then I would appreciate a simple answer to that too, even if your reasons are complex and you feel you have already laid them out over a series of posts. I would be content to hear from you something along the lines of “you are obviously too lazy and stupid to understand all the reasons I have already given why it is impossible from the standpoint of [this] and [that] for whites to ever regain such a sense of identity”. That would answer my question just fine.

    Please, please, please, do give this to me David. I want to believe in you, but you have to understand that my belief is that when it comes to human evolved group behaviour, most of the motivation comes from the instinct and the gut (or if you like from the limbic system). The arguments and strategies that follow may be of the finest eloquence and draw on the most sophisticated widely read body of knowledge, and may be far superior to anything I could personally hope to verbalise. But you see, for me, in the end when it comes to group instinct, that’s all just a lot of rationalizations which I don’t need to know about, unless I can see where the gut is coming from.

    As I say, look at Macdonald. He is hugely intelligent and accomplished and yet he is able to communicate to a number of levels simultaneously without losing the essential intellectual quality. Can’t you do the same?

    I might suggest it’s only worth bothering to respond to me here if you feel you can help as I have requested. If you feel you can’t (or in your reply you don’t) then I shan’t bother you directly again, although I may criticize others for interacting with you, by pointing out you have not made such a simple statement. However, if I do that I will be civil about it and like I say I am sorry for the way I blew up at you. It was very feminine of me, but then again maybe I am a chick :O)

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      February 20, 2011 - 7:15 pm | Permalink

      In my previous post I started to say “When I originally said “the world is full of Longly’s” but then didn’t finish the explanation. I was going to explain that I meant that the world is full of very clever people with very sophisticated motives, many of which will be tilted toward disrupting, confusing, undermining the fledlging efforts of white folk to regain their footing.
      My point was just that, for most of us who intend to make a real world contribution, we can expect to be thrown up against such individuals many of whom we have to anticipate will be our intellectual and verbal superiors. In fact, given the forces ranged against us we can expect this to be the everyday norm. Therefore, the strategy cannot be that of attempting to ‘understand’ their intellectual stances and provide counter positions. There will have to be a way of non-intellectually sorting friend from foe. Otherwise, any good contribution will be too easily blown off course.
      For most difficult challenges this would present a real problem, because the psychology can lead to a wholesale rejection of intellectualism which in turn causes one to be driven into dogmatic/thoughtless outlooks, with the effect of weaking or even holing the prospect of success.

      But I believe that the challenge we face, because at its heart the whole shebang – why this has happened, why they are against us, and even why we care and want to resist, is all captured by evolved human tribality/group instinct. Because of this reality, the underlying ‘structure’ of the problem, including not just the challenges we face, but also things like the way arguments and intellectual positions are formed are – no matter how sophisticated the position – at root motivation essentially very simple and because of that, identifiable. Simple because it is both evolved and ancient. Identifiable because it is mostly driven by unconscious forces. What I mean is that, if the behaviour is driven by a group affiliation, it is possible to develop a basic ‘instinct’ that is capable of seeing past the most sophisticated authoritive, friendly or hostile, position, to the simple group affiliation driving it.

      To ‘know’ this does not even require to ‘know’ the extent or range or dominance such evolved group thinking has over modern human populations. Speaking for myself, my personal feelings have always been, and still remain, that I believe the human race has to get past the state of ethnic/group delineation. I would like to see a future world in which all the races and creeds come together to develop a shared conditioning of the young away from such behaviours and thinking. I don’t want a future where all races merge into a soup, but I don’t believe that would be the outcome of some future humanity that had come together in honesty and love to change our nature or the way we respond to it.
      So why have I become so passionately committed to White identity? The reason is simple, and I am sure if they thought it through, this would be shared by a great many newcomers to this cause. It’s because the way things are now, whites are being coerced into oblivion, by other groups who have no intention of giving up their own tribality. We are being drugged and sleptwalked to extinction not as part of humanity coming together to create a better tomorrow free from group selfish instincts, but actually as part of the group strategy of others. I’ve had to wake up to the peril facing my people, because I have seen that, just as in the history of the Cold War (before my time) unilateral disarmament would have been a catastrophe for the West, if Whites and Whites alone forgo their group identity and their majorities in their homelands, while all the other major races are left intact, human nature has it that it will be a catastrophe for our descendents. For my descendents and for yours. I can’t let this happen. I am going to personally do something really amazing in my life that helps this not to happen. I don’t have the intellectual or verbal eloquence to help by writing about it, but I do have inheritance and wealth coming and enough intelligence to use that to play a part in the first major battle that Macdonald has described, which is to make the basic right of whites to choose to be a people, and to have an open, guilt free, public debate as to whether they want to give their lands up. That’s going to be my life and I hope to see many of you out there in the real battle.

  76. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 20, 2011 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Longley:
    I think I am beginning to see your point, Namely that:
    Genes out weigh environment. ie. blacks have historically scored lower (in spite of everything possible done to change the fact, and continue to do so);

    The “wussyfication” of society due to liberal-democratic feminine memes.

    The failure of whites to grasp the fact that it is not so much the agents/group/people that ADMINISTER the government, ie, Jews Blacks, liberals etc. as it is the FORM of government that is killing them…”equality” “diversity” etc…..You can’t worship your Government on the one hand and despise the fruit of that government on the other

    To all: I have been involved in and studied the “Movement” since the Rockwell days and have marveled at the leaders insistance that if only we can “get the word out” all the whites will magically fall in line and we can “take it back” etc.
    Well, thanks to the internet the WORD IS OUT! Of course along with the word getting out a Black president got in… And who voted him in?? those same white people (mostly women) who had already heard the “WORD”
    Parenthetically, I was banned permanently from STORMFRONT for daring to suggest that women too might be capable of malevolence (not just “Blacks and Jews”) they accused me of mysogeny. I half expect the same thing to happen here. Que sera sera!

    • February 21, 2011 - 7:19 am | Permalink

      Henry Baxley February 20, 2011 – 7:48 pm

      “Mr. Longley:
      I think I am beginning to see your point, Namely that:
      Genes out weigh environment.”

      It will take time. Research is hard work. There is a lot to catch up on. Try not to translate it into another language, just acquire the new one. The old one is bug ridden.

      “ie. blacks have historically scored lower (in spite of everything possible done to change the fact, and continue to do so);”

      The respectable work in race-realism is about the epidemiologiy of groups as gene-barriers. It is not about ‘black people’, ‘jews’ or ‘women’ per se. One is epidemiological and Behavioural Genetics, the other just bigotry and Libertarian politics in my view.

      “Parenthetically, I was banned permanently from STORMFRONT for daring to suggest that women too might be capable of malevolence (not just “Blacks and Jews”) they accused me of mysogeny. I half expect the same thing to happen here. Que sera sera!”

      Many groups are just exclusionist clubs. These foment conflict to recruit followers. Some do so to sell merchandise or otherwise make money (or court narcissistic supply). :-(

  77. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 20, 2011 - 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Micky Meadows:
    well said. we can’t all live in peace until we all have a place of our own. I would much prefer the top position but HAVING a place is more important than where it is.
    “A place for everyone, and everyone in their place”

  78. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 20, 2011 - 8:57 pm | Permalink

    I think I have Longley figured out! He is being paid by the mossad to disrupt our discussions. As jews, they can’t be paying him too much, can they? Let us increase his pay per comment and let him post on jewish sites, and he can be a sort of double agent. If we pay him 25 cents per post, we would double what the jews are paying him and he could get a real hornets nest going with them!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 20, 2011 - 10:27 pm | Permalink

      Excellent idea, Scooter! I have an old can full of dimes and nickles. Let’s get him posting over on $PLC’s website.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

      Scooter said: “I think I have Longley figured out! He is being paid by the mossad to disrupt our discussions.”

      I hope you were trying to be funny because the only alternative explanation that I can figure is that you’re everything he’s been accusing “those who refuse to learn” of being, Scooter.

      Up until now you’ve struck me as being more intelligent than the Usual Suspects who screech and whine and pout and shout, “NO FAIR!” like children at recess when faced with the task of actually listening to their critics instead of snappishly shouting out over them in much the same way that David Horowitz has been criticized for doing on another thread.

      Am I mistaken?

  79. To Mr. Longley's Gravatar To Mr. Longley
    February 20, 2011 - 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Longley,

    1. Stop spamming.
    2. Stop taking up space in the comments.
    3. Stop insulting people.
    4. Use short sentences and use no more than two or three sentences for every major point.
    5. Write an article for TOO.

    If you do all of the above, you MIGHT convince SOME people that you are not a Jewish Hasbarat, troll, or underemployed crank. Until then, you can expect a lot of red buttons being pushed by people reading your posts. If you’re not doing it on purpose, you are failing to convey your points in such an indescribable magnitude that you might just create a new term or Internet meme:

    “Longley”
    Verb
    A particular subset of trolling: to annoy, distract, and mystify others on a message board by providing incredibly long, rambling, and incoherent statements

    • February 21, 2011 - 8:28 am | Permalink

      “If you do all of the above, you MIGHT convince SOME people that you are not a Jewish Hasbarat, troll, or underemployed crank. Until then, you can expect a lot of red buttons being pushed by people reading your posts. “

      Alternatively, what you describe is precisely what you (and others posting like you here) are doing.

      Peddling misguided propaganda whilst ignoring the empirical facts serves to distract from what the real problems are and just ensures they continue.

      There are all sorts of people posting like yourself 9some in different guses). Some are just distractors, others naive ‘useful idiots’, some committed Libertarians/anarchists. It doesn’t matter what their reasons. Reasons are not what matter.

      Most who argue here are just revealing what they do not know, often arguing from ignorance. What matters is that the Libertarian Democracies are in demographic/economic trouble. Immigration has been used by politicians as a pragmatic solution to the low (but alas dysgenic) birth-rates and the impact which this has on the fiat money supply and economy in general. Sadly, our hapless legislators and their shrinking public sector executive (regulators) can do no more. That’s the price of ‘freedom’ and anti-authoritarianism (anarchism). Look up the crime rate in the UK/USA since the end of WWII as a measure of anti-social behaviour.

  80. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 21, 2011 - 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Anglo Saxon still runs and hides and refuses to answer a simple question. In fact, it is only Longley that seems to answer my question, as Longley is motivated for some reason to defend Anglo Saxon (and vice versa).

    Anglo Saxon, why have you had zero criticism for known and exposed trolls such as severis and Der Weenerschnitzel? Those two were exposed as trolls and one of them created an entire fade website, which suddenly disappeared. But not a word of criticism toward them, in fact you praised them in the past. You save all your hostility for people that are obviously pro-White. You are a troll working with them.

    If you had any serious concern for White Advocacy or for the work of MacDonald, you would have been calling them out.

    I still wonder if Sever*s was related to the Wikipedia operators in some say. But AS had no problem with him. None. Even though the guy made up a fake Neo-N*zi site and posted links to it hundreds of times. You remained silent and still remain silent on the issue. Instead you try and sew dissension between American White and European Whites.

    Because you are a troll.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 6:34 pm | Permalink

      Look Squeaky – there’s no other way to say this – GROW UP!

      And if you are “grown up” in the years-on-this-planet-sense, then adjust your medication or adopt a healthier, more natural-food-based diet – one that doesn’t screw with your brain chemistry.

      But whatever you do, try to deal head-on and honestly with the points raised in the comments here rather than hiding behind the trivial insecurities and pathologies that appear essential to your very Being when you screech back at those you’re incapable of understanding in any meaningful way.

      Mr. Longley is correct – you exhibit all the traits of a wilful idiot, incapable of learning anything novel.

      Here are three distinct observations from Arthur Schopenhauer you could benefit from learning:

      “Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.”

      “Intellect is invisible to the man who has none.”

      “To free a man from error is to give, not to take away. Knowledge that a thing is false is a truth. Error always does harm; sooner or later it will bring mischief to the man who harbors it. Then give up deceiving people; confess ignorance of what you don’t know, and leave everyone to form his own articles of faith for himself. Perhaps they won’t turn out so bad, especially as they’ll rub one another’s corners down, and mutually rectify mistakes. The existence of many views will at any rate lay a foundation of tolerance.”

      Got that?!?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 21, 2011 - 6:44 pm | Permalink

      Arthurdeco,

      What is your opinion on Severis and the stunt he pulled? And Der Weenershniztel? We know they are both trolls that went so far as to create fake sites to hurt this site. You are against that right?

      And doesn’t it strike you as odd that Anglo Saxon never criticized them but only picks fights with people who are sincerely interested in White Advocacy?

      And you claim to be a White Advocate … I think… yet you know Longley is opposed to that .. yet you defend him to.

      Please let us know where you stand on these issues? Why won’t you or Longley or Anglo Saxon utter a peep of protest against the known trolls like Severis?

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 8:09 pm | Permalink

      “Got that?!?

      Rate: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1″

      OK…so you didn’t get that…

  81. James's Gravatar James
    February 21, 2011 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know much about wordpress but would it be viable to set up some sort of registration whereby moderators could ban people temporarily or permanently if for example, their posts were clearly inflammatory and against the ethos of the site?

    • James's Gravatar James
      February 21, 2011 - 6:07 pm | Permalink

      Or were significantly reducing the signal to noise ratio of the website?

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

      What are you insecure, emotional cripples so AFRAID OF?!?! …AND WHY?!?!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 21, 2011 - 6:52 pm | Permalink

      I would totally agree with that. Anything that would make it difficult for trolls. Limits on daily posting might be another possibility. I think the rating system has helped quite a bit, although the trolls themselves use it.

      I think the more interesting question is … who are these trolls? We should try and build a profile. Clearly they are motivated to disrupt White Advocacy, so they are most likely Leftist and/or Jewish. Some of them have web skills because one, Severis, created an entire fake website he linked to constantly. I keep wondering about some of the guys over at Wikipedia … I have heard there is a cabal over there that responds immediately to any critique of Jewish influence with intense fervor.

      Any other ideas?

    • February 21, 2011 - 6:58 pm | Permalink

      arthurdecco February 21, 2011 – 6:42 pm

      “What are you insecure, emotional cripples so AFRAID OF?!?! …AND WHY?!?!”

      It’s a very powerful phenomenon – being taken out of one’s “comfort zone”.

      It’s part of the HPA-Axis.

  82. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 21, 2011 - 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Arthurdeco, Anglo Saxon, David Longley, Der Wienerschnitzel, Adam, and Severis (among others) all seem to work as a team. There is massive cooperation among them. Now we know for certain that 3 of them are outted trolls. If Anglo Saxon were legit, he would have been calling Severis out as a troll. If AS was legit, he would not be defending the disruptor Longley. Look back at all the posts where AS lent support to the fake Severis character. Now I want to know where “Arthurdeco” stands. He again, supports known trolls – not a good sign.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

      I’m so sorry you’re a pathetic lunatic, Jason Shrieks – Sincerely – I’m so sorry you’re an emotionally damaged, passive aggressive and delusional person who is legally allowed to vote. In fact, “I’m so sorry” doesn’t begin to cover it. I’m AGHAST at the fact that precariously-balanced mental midgets like you are permitted to foul the principles of democracy simply by participating without prejudice or criticism in our political process at its most primal levels.

      Our governments should never provide cover for those like you so that you can disrupt or discredit the concerned and responsible citizens of America’s concerns.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 21, 2011 - 10:41 pm | Permalink

      You should be required to write and PASS an exam before you’re allowed to vote, don’t you think? Something that could indicate whether or not you have even a casual grasp of democracy and the history behind it?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 21, 2011 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

      Please note that after 5 or 6 attempts, neither Anglo Saxon or Arthurdecco will explain why they worked to defend and support known destructive trolls trolls such as Severis and Der Weener or Adam. They adamantly refuse to address the issue. This is not the behavior of people who are sincerely interested in White Advocacy. If they felt they had been suckered by them, they would freely admit it.

      Instead, they continue lending support to known trolls and to the disruptor Longley. The evidence is piling up that they are trolls working with the earlier exposed trolls (or may, in fact, be the same people).

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 21, 2011 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

      So if these guys are Severus and Weiss Engel, does that make you Jeff Maylor?

      There are obviously some agent provocateurs here, as well as some genuine eccentrics.

      They will inevitably waste some amount of time of the readers of this site. However, people would do better to evaluate the content of ideas on the ideas’ own merits rather than to get too caught up in personalities.

      Of course, if someone repeatedly makes outrageous or pernicious statements, then just downvote and ignore them.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 22, 2011 - 1:01 am | Permalink

      It’s interesting, Athanasius, that you have so much hostility to the outting of these destructive trolls. But actually that isn’t very perplexing is it. What in the world do you guys think you are accomplishing?

      Sadly, you do waste a certain amount of time. And given the malicious nature of their approach (and yours), we all need to be aware of individuals who are operating under false pretenses. I would urge caution to anyone clicking on any links the crew provides.

      If they wish to dispute ideas in an open, honest, and honorable way, then let them. But I think we all know that for Anglo Saxon, Arthrudecco, Der Weener, Severis, and apparently yourself, that is not an option. You simply wish to disrupt debate, not engage in it.

      Did you work with Severis to build the fake site that was linked to this site over 100 times? That is not debate. That is malice.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 22, 2011 - 1:14 am | Permalink

      On the contrary, I said that the focus should be on ideas, not personalities–that would be the very definition of fomenting debate.

      I’m surprised you interpreted my post as being explicitly hostile. Why?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 22, 2011 - 1:36 am | Permalink

      You seem to be a bit slippery on all this, Athanasius. No one thinks of concern trolls or trolls sent to do damage as merely offering “another veiwpoint”. And this is not a about personalities. It is about a deliberate attempt to sabotage debate by destructive trolls and possibly do more damage. With regard to Severis, your failure to condemn his actions are suspect in my book. What he did was NOT to offer ideas but a crude attempt at sabotage. You know that. He put hundreds of links on this board … were they safe? You, strangely enough, have no concern.

      But you don’t want any focus on them, I wonder why, Athanasius?

      Again, this isn’t about personalities, for all we know it’s all one person. And it certainly isn’t about ideas. It is about people who hate Whites coming on this site and putting potentially damaging links in their posts. It seems to me, if you were at all honest, this would bother you to. And yet it doesn’t…

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 22, 2011 - 1:49 am | Permalink

      I actually once confronted Severus about his ridiculous analogizing of Jews to Harry Potter characters. His website was beyond bizarre–it was all pink and tried to promote the idea that the Third Reich was a multi-cultural Empire–and also had more weird Harry Potter stuff. It obviously took a lot of time to make though, and it will be obvious if he makes a new site.

      Now, stop imputing motives to me.

      Again, I hope people will read all posts here critically–though lets face it, the posts are far less important than the articles– and they can downvote any posts they find to be pernicious.

      Out of curiosity, what do you mean by ‘damaging’ links?

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 22, 2011 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

      Athanasius said: “There are obviously some agent provocateurs here, as well as some genuine eccentrics.”

      Athanasius, I’d like you to think of me as a “genuine eccentric”.

      That would make me “an unconventional person with unusual habits”, if my online dictionary can be trusted.

      Besides, I’m too intelligent to believe I could get away with being an “agent provocateur” on a site that attracts more than the average amount of careful and perceptive people.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 22, 2011 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

      What I mean by damaging links is this: When someone like Sever*s creates a website and links to it …. what happens when we click on it? Is our IP address captured? Or we liable to have cookies or eggs or whatever else can be inadvertently downloaded? I have no idea, I would like Tic Tac or someone else who has technical knowledge to weigh in.

      Someone like Sever*s and the rest of the trolls are not merely playing games. They absolutely hate us. So I think we should all be very vigilant about outting them, and especially about clicking on any links they post.

    • February 23, 2011 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

      Jason Speaks February 21, 2011 – 8:19 pm

      “Arthurdeco, Anglo Saxon, David Longley, Der Wienerschnitzel, Adam, and Severis (among others) all seem to work as a team. There is massive cooperation among them.”

      Next you’ll be saying we’re all ‘Jewish’. ;-)

      QED.

  83. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 22, 2011 - 3:12 am | Permalink

    Interesting, apparently Athanasius is part of the troll complex, and his role is to stoke anti-WASP feeling (Leftists always exploit any potential social division). Many Jews feel deeply humiliated in the presence of the more desirable White or WASP type person, never underestimate how deep their bitterness goes.

    So in addition to running interference for known trolls like Serveris and Der Weener and Anglo Saxon, he pushed the “let’s all hate them WASPs line”. Typical low rent Alinsky tactics. Note the tone of 2 of his posts, trying to sew dissension between WASP Whites and others (Iots of references to ‘Judea-WASPs and other very eerily Serveris sounding statements) :

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/02/mind-wars-raising-healthy-white-children-in-a-subversive-environment/#comment-26899

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/02/mind-wars-raising-healthy-white-children-in-a-subversive-environment/#comment-26915

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      February 22, 2011 - 10:24 am | Permalink

      I have made no secret of the fact that I am not a WASP. I have, on multiple occasions noted how, in particular, Scotch-Irish have suffered greatly under the present regime.

      If one reads the posts you linked to, they will see that I’m merely noting that many of the WASP elites at Ivy league schools facilitated the rise of Jews in academia (this should be obvious), and that some of the prominent families (like the Boks, who are very prominent in academia) intermarried with the Jews. Why is this controversial? It is factual.

      “lets hate them WASPs” really, you can do better than that.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      February 22, 2011 - 6:36 pm | Permalink

      I don’t care if you are a WASP or not Athanasius, neither am I technically. I am not Italian either but I don’t spend all day bashing Italians as a way to promote White interests.

      If you want to specifically single out the New England Whites, then I would be more specific about it – make it about … New England Liberal Whites. MacDonald has discussed them and the fact that they went to war against other Whites for the sake of Blacks.

      The term WASP is too general and technically includes a lot of Scotch-Irish. It is also a term used by Jews and other Leftists who use it to denigrate Whites in general.

  84. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 22, 2011 - 11:10 am | Permalink

    Art Deco:

    Yes, you are mistaken.

    Longley and I probably agree on a some things. But as Miriam, ironically enough, pointed out, the waters are so muddy with him who knows? I’m pretty sure he agrees with me that white women should reembrace their traditional role and have bigger families if the goal is to reestablish the white race, but I’m not sure what his goal is other than to promote communism. He is so unlikeable and hardheaded I’m sure he is totally ignored anywhere but online, and he gets outed and berated in every online forum he participates in. As Jason has said – if the guy really had any credibility he would publish in peer reviewed academic journals – where jew and non jew alike would skewer him for his own inability to listen and change when he is wrong and cannot learn from others, and then, like a feminized infant, he flails away at those who have the temerity to disagree with him.
    Whatever there is to learn from him he is incapable of explaining to people. He thinks we are too dumb to get it but he cannot comprehend he is unable to teach it.

    • February 22, 2011 - 12:17 pm | Permalink

      Scooter February 22, 2011 – 11:10 am

      “But as Miriam, ironically enough, pointed out, the waters are so muddy with him who knows?”

      Some here know.

      Some here have even tried to alert people like yourself.

      Instead of accepting that the mud may be of your own making, you externalise it. You expect others to work for you. That is typically feminine.

      “.. but I’m not sure what his goal is other than to promote communism.”

      I have pointed out that The Bell Cireve policy chapter recommendations were compatible with Communitarianism. Something Michael Young and others promoted (cf Labour Party manifesto 1945, and China today which saw the USSR as revisionist after Stalin’s death) in order to avert what’s divisively destructive in any Meriticracy. Did you read/grasp any of that?

      “He is so unlikeable and hardheaded I’m sure he is totally ignored anywhere but online, and he gets outed and berated in every online forum he participates in.”

      It appears that you’re highly selective in who and how you count. You count those who agree with you and you disregard the rest even when they are clearly the smarter ones. What sort of counting is that? You also count the most ignorant people. Might this explain your distorted view of the world, where Jews (and Jews alone), are responsible for all your ills?

      “As Jason has said – if the guy really had any credibility he would publish in peer reviewed academic journals – where jew and non jew alike would skewer him for his own inability to listen and change when he is wrong and cannot learn from others, and then, like a feminized infant, he flails away at those who have the temerity to disagree with him.”

      How much reading have you actually done? How much creative imagining/fabricating instead? Day after day we see populist nonsense from you and others, all of which is not evidence driven or backed at all. It is all made up, it is fantasy. Yet you accuse Jews of doing just that.

      “Whatever there is to learn from him he is incapable of explaining to people. He thinks we are too dumb to get it but he cannot comprehend he is unable to teach it.”

      In your case, you keep showing us all that you can not learn from experience, or will not. You do not even seem to see this. You keep repeating the same factually untrue material, day after day, i.e you do not learn from experience.

      What was this all about? What is ASPD part of in DSM-IV?

    • February 22, 2011 - 6:21 pm | Permalink

      “He thinks we are too dumb to get it but he cannot comprehend he is unable to teach it.”

      Correct.

      Too many go to ‘college’. It gives far too many a false view of their true abilities/limitations. It has become a ‘social bling’ business.

  85. February 22, 2011 - 3:24 pm | Permalink

    ““He is so unlikeable and hardheaded I’m sure he is totally ignored anywhere but online, and he gets outed and berated in every online forum he participates in.”

    Note the ad hominem?

    Note the subtle, yet persistent, confabulation (failure of discrimination) between the imagined person, and the sentences written by the person? If the sentences make an unpalatable point which is true, how easy it is to dismiss it all by finding (or looking for, often concocted) material to render the messenger unlikeable.

    Such people tend only hear what they want to hear, and their suitors (politicians?) tell them exactly that, and little else. What classes of people also behave like this? Surely it’s human females, and the child-like? They have retarded/arrested development. The more of them, the better for corrupt democracies as it makes it is easier to get power, and thus resources, that way.

    Hence the export of democracy to low IQ countries, and, the assertion (as we heard today) from Libertarians like David Cameron, that it is prejudice or racism to assert that some countries are not ready for democracy.

    See how it works?

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      February 22, 2011 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

      David Longley asked: “See how it works?”

      Yes, I do. Thank you for so clearly communicating your Point of view. You convinced me.

      So much for your supposed penchant for obfuscation…

  86. Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
    February 22, 2011 - 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Dr Brahms:

    Thanks for replying and letting me see your reasoning on your reversal of support for affirmative action. It is hopeful to know that those well meaning people who have supported it in the past can change their mind about it. It is telling that another program intended to help the colored races is probably hurting them, hurting whites, and benefitting the jews.
    Perhaps there will be some widespread academic support someday for the thesis that affirmative action hurts minorities. With our extremely diverse population, affirmative action is getting very cumbersome.

    • February 23, 2011 - 3:29 pm | Permalink

      ‘Dr Brahms’ seems rather rusty on basic medicine. Is this very common in the USA?

  87. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 22, 2011 - 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Thank God! One of my posts was deemed so bad by the “majority” it was hidden due to low rating..Woohoo! I know i’m on the right track now.

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