In our essay Is the Madoff Scandal Paradigmatic? Kevin MacDonald and I noted that suspicions of Madoff were quite widespread amongst financially sophisticated elements of the Jewish community. For instance we reported David Harris, Executive Director of the American Jewish Committee saying:
the Madoff name had come up here in the AJC’s investment committee some months ago when someone suggested we ought to explore investing … with Madoff. And the chairman of our investment committee actually said, “No, I think it’s a Ponzi scheme.” He actually used those words to the ten or fifteen people in the meeting.
We asked
With so many prominent Jewish investment industry figures apparently aware that something was wrong with Madoff, the question arises: Why did they not turn him in?
We concluded that the reason was the echo of the traditional ban on “Mesirah” or “Mesira” (informing – an informer is a “Moser”). In medieval times, Jews were absolutely forbidden to tell the Civil Authorities about law-breaking by a fellow Jew, a prohibition sometimes enforced by death, as discussed in this article in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Chris Moore has published on his website a valuable discussion of the Richard Goldstone atrocity, pointing out that this was a case of enforcing the Mesirah ban. He remarks
Goldstone today stands as an example of why Jewish Zionists should never be given any official authority in a secular society or body that subscribes or aspires to an impartial judicial or justice system… the Jew is commanded by the Law of Moser to side with his co-religionist.
This recalls our judgment:
The clear message of the facts of the Madoff scandal is that Americans generally cannot rely on American Jews to halt financial fraud by someone who is Jewish.
Americans who are not Jewish need to be more aware of the Mesirah concept, which appears to be deeply ingrained in Jewish behavior to this day – another case of the set of group strategies identified by Professor MacDonald. It makes attempting to coexist with Jews costly and problematic.
There has been a dramatic demonstration of this recently. On Thursday April 7th 2011 a bomb went off outside a Chabad Synagogue in Santa Monica, California. The following Tuesday, a suspect, Ron Hirsch — who is apparently Jewish — was arrested at a synagogue in Cleveland Ohio.
Hirsch had visited the synagogue on Sunday night, where he prayed …The next day, the rabbi saw Hirsch’s photo on a Jewish website.
“I saw the facial features, although he shaved off part of his beard,” the unidentified rabbi told ABC News. “First thing I did was call my local rabbi to see if I could report him. He said, ‘If he is a danger to society, you have to report him.’ I called the FBI in Santa Monica. They asked me to call the Cleveland Heights police. They came to synagogue, and he was sitting right in the back.” Santa Monica Chabad suspect charged for fleeing police JewishJournal.com April 12th, 2011
(My emphasis.)
So strong was the Mesirah inhibition that this Rabbi was in doubt whether to report to the authorities on a Jew who had allegedly bombed a synagogue! Had it been a question of stealing from a non-Jew, it looks certain no call would have been made.
A clear statement of the Mesirah issue appeared in Case of Informant Reverberates Through L.A.’s Orthodox Community by Rebecca Spence Forward, January 23,2008
In traditional Jewish law, if a Jew reports another Jew to the government, he is deemed a moser, and in some interpretations, a moser’s actions are punishable by death…
In 21st-century America, the laws of mesira are up for a wide variety of interpretations. While a moser in the Talmud could be killed for his actions, and some in more right-wing corners still hold this to be the case, many others contend that given the high comfort level of Jews in America today, the same standard created when Jews lived under hostile governments cannot be applied.
Reading through the torturous discussions about whether to inform (for instance here and here and here), it is clear that in observant communities the decision is made very cumbersome, with extensive consultations mandatory, and that many excuses for not acting have been established. If the punishment exceeds what the Jewish community deems appropriate, if there is a possibility of the matter being dealt within the group, and of course if the authorities or their officers can be tarred with anti-Semitism, then informing is forbidden .
The effect is to make not acting easy to rationalize.
In recent years increased consciousness of the issue of pedophilia, sexual abuse generally and drugs has driven most of the Jewish discussion of Mesirah. Some Jewish organizations like the Rabbinical Council of America have explicitly called for Mesirah to be overlooked in these cases. These are, however, situations, where harm is being done to other Jews. There appears to be no discussion of what to do when the harm is being done to non-Jews. Evidently the question does not arise.
Neither, it seems, does the question of reporting economic crimes where the victims are non-Jewish merit attention.
Of course, the evidence about Mesirah comes from the deliberations of the highly observant. But the ethos and tradition of the hard core permeates out to the more secular — as the Madoff story proves.
Many ethnic groups reflexively protect their own — one has only to think of the O.J. Simpson trial — but what others have elaborately codified and systematically asserted this behavior as an absolute duty — even when guilt is beyond doubt?
In our essay on Madoff, Kevin MacDonald and I concluded
Americans need to ask themselves if parties with this larcenous and nomadic tradition are appropriate stewards of our national institutions.
If Americans fully understood the operation of the Mesirah code, they would ask themselves if a community practicing it is fit for full membership of their civil society.
The Joys of Jihad: Islamentable, Isatrocious, Isbetrayal
Nordics versus Implicit Jews in "The Switch"
The ultimate trick the Jewish community has played on America is to convince that they are not really a group.
So any attempt to publicly term them, or study them, as a group (as people do African Americans, Muslims, Arabs, etc.) is automatically deemed suspect and is a kiss of death.
Of course, the only people who are allowed to do so are Jews themselves. I wish other minorities had that power. That the majority White elite fell for this subterfuge is one of the few phenomena in our history that makes me wonder if Caucasians of the non-Jewish persuasion are really as smart as we think we are.
On the bright side, that is rapidly changing. With the rise of the internet, it has become impossible to stifle all discussion.
There are different types of intelligence. Whites,overall, have had it very good for a very long time. We’ve been softened up, and tamed. We WANT to believe that all Others are Just Like Us – the racial egalitarianism appeals the the deepest elements of White Hubris. We are very very gullible, and few, even now, have had direct daily experience with The Other.
So was have been very easily snookered, by a group that has bred for treachery and deciet for thousands of years. Are Jews really so smart? Whites Christians of the Western World are all tamed, and compliant, and just cannot do enough for those Poor, Persecuted Jews. Whites are no threat at all – yet Organized Jewry is still determined to DESTROY the West – the BET Host they’ve ever had.
The new Host is China. China has a civilization that’s existed much longer than Jewry. They’ve been much more technically advanced than Jewry, all along. They are REALLY racist – far more even than Jews, and they are absolutely merciless. There is not a shred of compassion for weakness, incompetence (if you are caught), treachery, or stupidity. Jewry is already trying to get the Chinese to accept the “Diversity” poison – and it’s not working. The Chinese are already hip to them.
So – define “smart”.
Gentile : Hey Dr . , I am aware that you are jewish , so what is behind your secretive religion that says that you are superior to us and that even the best of us should be killed ? How can I trust a jew to be a good doctor to my son if he is in a jewish dr’s care or for a Jew to be in a place of power to govern over myself and my people ?
Jew : I swear that we jews are all honest and good people , not to mention great doctors and that’s why my services cost a small fortune .
Gentile : Ok Dr . , I acknowlege that you gave me your word that jews are good and gifted people , but is it not true that jews recite a prayer that says jews can lie to gentiles if it is necessary for the good of jews to do so ?
Jew : Antisemite !!
Gentile : Oh no ! I am not a ” hater ” ! Really I am not ! Please accept my apologies and here is my son for you to operate on . Please do a good job on his appendix .
“Israel is such an enormous detriment to the United States, our relationship with the Israeli. That it’s going to become clear to the Americans that this is just going to cost us blood and lives the longer we pursue this relationship with the Israelis,” Professor Michael Scheuer (Georgetown University) and former CIA officer for 22 years – on Glenn Beck’s CNN TV Show.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/us-israel-the-odd-couple/
Being a huge believer in conspiracies , I have thought for a long time that Madoff was allow to run on and to ruin as a decoy .A decoy to prove that even Jews where victims of this financial system run mad–See Jews are caught up in the madness too–So don’t start thinking Anti-Semitic .See its not a Zionist conspiracy its just an act of fate/god.’ Cause WE ARE VICTIMS TOO! Its a decoy/faint designed to brainwash the public & politicians and to stop them looking deeper into the motives for the destruction of the western financial system.
I think the very near future of the MiddleEast will show that the whole lot is a Zionist conspiracy to reorder that worlds financial system and Solve the Palestinian-Israel problem. That the motive chaps , The Motive !
Libya is an opening play .Am I the only one who can see the diliberate attempt by Western Powers to incite the Muslim world by it Bald face lying and murder .The random killings using Predator drones .The blunt hypocrisy designed to inflame the Middle Eastern mobs .
Notice , now the credit rating agencies are speculation on the soundness USA currency .Wake-up chaps they ain’t going to honor those checks , and when ‘they’ , the Zionists pull the plug on the world currencies, the chaos this creates will create the cover to go in boots and all to reorganize the Middle East -A big f..king war to reorganize the Israels borders.I think they will create a new currancy block to counter weight to China.I have just been on P Bucannan’s sight but the historian seems oblivious to the obvious. Perhaps the idea is too diabolical for most minds . Say like 9/11 ?
And by the way I wouldn’t be surprised if McCain is sacrifice (an immoral turncoat anyway) in Libya to kick things off.
Don’t pick on poor McCain, please. The great majority of western political crowed are the ‘immoral tuncoats’. I remember, Israel-born British writer, Gilad Atzmon, for saying: “We, the Israelis, realized long time ago that buying the entire US political system is much cheaper than buying a tank”.
As for Zionist Crusade against the Muslim world is concerned, David Ben Gurion, had admitted in his autobiography that Islam poses the greatest threat to the State of Israel. A recent Wikileaks document reveals that Israeli official told Washington that they prefer Islamic Resistance Hamas, as the next government could be more hostile to Israel.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/wikileaks-zionist-plot-to-invade-more-muslim-lands/
What McCain really is has become so clear it’s about enough to make you glad Bummer won the election. What this jew housen—-r will do to us next there’s no telling.
Poor McCain ? Joke? He craves the limelight like a whore craves the street. Quoting others doesn’t prove anything Rehmat . Real hero’s die alone or are prepared to. McCain is boot spittle.He has his flates in NY his hacienda in Arizona (with third world staff), his comfortable life with the MSM eulogizing his every treacherous move.
.Mean while his people (sorry I forgot–McCain doesn’t have a people ,created by immaculate conception , he appeared without any ancestory , oh except for some ape out of Africa ; Intellectualism is a great convenience ) are being rooted over by financial crooks ; that is his friends and backers. AND WHAT’s HE UP TO , generating another WAR , while the soup line grows back home. I hope he does get used as a Zionist meal ticket on the railroad to hell.
And you think you can excuse McCain because they are all corrupt? What sort of value system have you got?
These crooks and hypocrites are living in another world and need to be brought back to earth. The small people worship important people , and forget they get up in the morning and have a shit.Visualize Clinton trying to press out yesterdays lobster thermidor . They are just corrrupt animals .For humans without values are animals. Most of these politicians values system could be pulled apart in 60 sec ,each contradiction equaling zero.If a man wants to be the leader of his people he must consider his people to be his family.In that way ‘Conscience won’t make cowards of us all’ –for we defend what we love and not betray them .The Zionists defend what they love and use boot spittle’s like Blair ,Clinton, McCain, Bush,to do it buy betraying their own people .What contemptible dogs.And that how the Zionist treat them too.They look down on them with amusement , that quickly turns to anger and DISGUST , when they murmur the slightest objection. Go to hell , traitors !
Excellent essay, Mr. Graham. It is impossible to know of the Law of Moser and not realize that Judaism is not of the Western tradition but, in fact, a form of oriental despotism. Whatever good ever came from Judaism only came through its refraction through the lens of Christianity.
Poor McCain ? Joke? He craves the limelight like a whore craves the street. Quoting others doesn’t prove anything Rehmat . Real hero’s die alone or are prepared to. McCain is boot spittle.He has his flates in NY his hacienda in Arizona (with third world staff), his comfortable life with the MSM eulogizing his every treacherous move.
.Mean while his people (sorry I forgot–McCain doesn’t have a people ,created by immaculate conception , he appeared without any ancestory , oh except for some ape out of Africa ; Intellectualism is a great convenience ) are being rooted over by financial crooks ; that is his friends and backers. AND WHAT’s HE UP TO , generating another WAR , while the soup line grows back home. I hope he does get used as a Zionist meal ticket on the railroad to hell.
And you think you can excuse McCain because they are all corrupt? What sort of value system have you got?
These crooks and hypocrites are living in another world and need to be brought back to earth. The small people worship important people , and forget they get up in the morning and have a ….. .Visualize Clinton trying to press out yesterdays lobster thermidor . They are just corrrupt animals .For humans without values are animals. Most of these politicians values system could be pulled apart in 60 sec ,each contradiction equaling zero.If a man wants to be the leader of his people he must consider his people to be his family.In that way ‘Conscience won’t make cowards of us all’ –for we defend what we love and not betray them .The Zionists defend what they love and use boot spittle’s like Blair ,Clinton, McCain, Bush,to do it buy betraying their own people .What contemptible dogs.And that how the Zionist treat them too.They look down on them with amusement , that quickly turns to anger and DISGUST , when they murmur the slightest objection. Go to hell , traitors !
Great article. I’ve noticed that virtually all of the criticism aimed at the religion of Islam in post-911 America apply even more to the religion of Judaism. Subterfuge, lying, breaking agreements, no moral rights for the “outsider” – terrorism against innocents – all of these apply in spades to Judaism, and just as much to the “non religious but still Jewish” culture of Jews.
Fact is, most regular people, if they actually had an understanding of it, would find the Jewish religion to be outright disgusting. Jewish “chutzpah” to most folks is just rank hypocrisy.
Talk about it to everyone, in a moderate, measured tone. People are starting to come around. Perhaps the most important thing to know – discount everything Jews say. Don’t argue with them, don’t try to justify yourself to them, and never trust them. Ignore their shrieking complaints and their constant bellyaching. Just ask yourself, at the end of the day – do you really care what a Jew thinks? I know I don’t.
Rich: when I was a believing Christian, I respectfully (and lovingly) undertook a personal study of Judaism in order to better understand Christianity and its roots, imagining that the more I knew about Judaism, the more my respect for it would grow. Ironically, the more I learned about it, the more I realized how inconsonant it is to the Western tradition and to a well-ordered, just society, and that many critics of Judaism were correct when they observed that countries declined when Jewish mores and attitudes began to overtake the native culture.
If non-Jews made an objective and comprehensive study of Judaism, they’d soon realize that there is a large and very dangerous fifth column in their midst, working to propagate itself at the expense of the host country’s culture, values and traditions.
I suggest we use a pincher movement on Jews; attack them from both sides.
Among your conservative friends, describe the anti-White, anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-traditionalism of Jews, their attacks on traditional marriage, their support of massive immigration to replace us, their long tradition of financial fraud (Bernie Madoff et al), promotion of miscegenation, abortion, etc.
Among your liberal friends, talk about Zionist racism, Israeli apartheid, their organ-trafficking, their religious fanaticism, their warmongering.
And let’s take the opportunity that Mark Sanchez and Charlie Sheen have given us – always – ALWAYS – mention their real names. You can get a lot of mileage from that alone. People get very curious why they always hide their real names.
George Soros – George Swartz.
Ayn Rand – Alisa Rosenbaum.
Jon Stewart – Jonathan Stuart Liebowitz.
Sumner Redstone – Murray Rothstein.
Leon Trotsky – Lev Davidovich Bronshtein
Trust me – they really, really hate it when you do that. Not only does it help expose them, it’s just plain fun to tweak their noses! They go nuts and their reaction is pure comedy. Try it sometime. No reason being a counter-semite has to be dull!
Good!It is like boxing:hit them with your right AND left fists!
I suggest you add French anti-Jew philospher Maximine Portaz into your list.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/savitri-devi-a-hindu-nazi/
It is Leyba Davidovitz Bronstein, is it?
Mr.Graham, one more borderline-antisemitic piece of yours; you’d better spend your time helping the poorest people in America.
“In Europe, when someone criticizes Israeli policies, we bring in Holocaust – and when someone in this country (US) criticizes Israeli policizes, we bring in Anti-Semitism…..” – former Israeli minister Shulamit Aloni told Amy Goodman in her interview on ‘Democracy Now’.
Obama’s anti-Semitism envoy, Hannah Rosenthal, former head of Jewish Council for Public Affairs – told Jewish magazine Tablet on Monday: “Anti-Semitism is alive and well in Europe, in some countries, particularly among elites”.
She claimed that a state-sponsored anti-Semitism is being carried out in Muslim countries. She singled out world-renowned Sunni scholar Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi for “whipping up genocidal fervor against the Jews in the Middle East”. She was in fact quoting the distorted English translation of Sheikh Qaradawi ‘s speech, done by Israeil hasbara (propaganda) organ MEMRI.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/the-ghost-of-anti-semitism-is-alive-and-well/
So you’re saying that there is a Jewish conspiracy to defame Muslims who don’t believe in a Jewish conspiracy?
Mr. Faux Pas,why should WE Goyim help your poor Jews who,instead of working study the Talmud all day while making babies in abundance?Can you not find a super-rich Jewish swindler (such as a Bernie Madoff) with a VARM heart for that?
The thing that bothers me about this line of thought is the idea that problematic Jewish behavior stems from studying the Talmud. Most Jews in America don’t study it at all. It seems more likely that their behavior stems from a combination of genetic traits and culture (of which religion plays a part), but most likely genetics is the more fundamental.
I mention this because if the Talmud were totally done away with I don’t think it would change modern Jewish traits in the West.
WOW – Finally the Moshe got it right. There is no ‘conspiracy’ when it comes to Jewish crime against Muslims or Christians for that matter.
Syria: ‘Lobby is putting heat on Obama’
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/syria-lobby-is-putting-heat-on-obama/
Now Jewish war against Christians:
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/zionist%20crimes%20history.htm
Shalom = What’s good for the Jews.
Jewdaism is simply organized criminality, much like the so-called Mafia, with it’s codes of silence and so forth.
Organized criminality under a guise of religion.
I too have come to that conclusion long ago: the Jews are an ETHNIC MAFIA. Always have been.Their “Law of the Moser” is exactly the same as what in the Italian Mafia is called OMERTA (the obligation not to betray your comrades – in- crime).There may be a “religious superstructure” to this Mafia, but even that is full of criminal ideas.See for example how in the O.T. “Jahweh” urges his “chosen people” to invade Kanaan and to massacre all it’s inhabitants in order to rob them of all their possessions.In the Talmud you find many discussions how to cheat,steal,rob,rape or murder Gentiles,because they are sub-human anyway.Therefore it is actually wrong to say that Judaism is “organized criminality under the guise of a religion”.The religion doesn’t hide anything,it is criminal in itself.The phenomenon of an entire ethno-religious group being criminal by profession is not that unusual in history.The THUGS in British India are a good example.This was a hereditary criminal sect in Northern India that saw it as their “religious duty” to strangle and rob travelling pilgrims.They dedicated their deeds to the cruel goddess ” Kali”. They were a plague.The British infiltrated the sect ,arrested both men and women and locked them up seperatedly in concentration camps untill they died out.Unfortunately such an effective measure has still to be practised on our HEBREW Thugs.
Again, doesn’t the evidence show that the Jewish traits that bring them in conflict with the larger culture are not so much based on the Talmud but rest in something more fundamental? Judaism seems to be an expression of Jewish thinking and personality, not the other way around. Most of the Jews in powerful positions in the US don’t even know that much about the Talmud.
Take the so-called New York Intellectuals, a famously Jewish group. Most were not particularly religious and many were atheists. However, they did promote socialism, communism, cultural Marxism and all the rest. It was yet another system of thought that stems from the Jewish mentality, of which the Talmud is just one variation.
Most people mistakenly think jewdaism is a spiritual religion, like so many others, when it is instead a materialistic belief system that elevates the value of oneself above all else.
Jewdaism is based on the notion that whenever and wherever any group of people try to create a just society, there will be a minority of people who can take advantage of the loopholes by not conforming to the spirit of the law and by instead exploiting the letter of the law.
Jewdaism is and always has been the core of that small minority. They know this type of subversion will almost always be beneficial to them because human nature will usually allow them to corrupt a certain number of people, which in turn enables them to corrupt more.
Essentially, jewdaism is nothing more than an age-old, worldwide crime syndicate based on the exploitation of fundamental human fallacies.
Correct me if I’m wrong…didn’t Madoff’s sons turn him in?
Madoff’s sons turned him in to save their own skins.
They would have been liable to a conspiracy charge, a charge which is almost impossible to fight, due to the low, almost non-existent threshold of proof.
When prosecutors do not have a case, they will throw a conspiracy charge at you, which almost always sticks.
Only under order for the Zionist council.Notice how quickly Maddoff was signed , seal and delivered ? Get him out of the public,s mind so that people with intelligence don’t start asking obvious questions in the MSM.Out of sight out of mind.
I love this. What an idea!
Relax Rehmat, this is a safari to hunt only Somali pirates not all Muslims.
http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3617/85/
Being a religious Jew in itself is incompatible with life in the midst of other nations.
Observing the Mesirah prohibition is just a part of the much larger problem.
Watch this masterful expose of the Jewish problem:
http://vimeo.com/22416040
Jeff Gates is unsparing in his criticism of McCain. Well worth the read.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july282010/evil-mccain-1-jg.php
In an interview with 60 Minutes, the Jewish swindler Marc Dreier dismisses his $400,000,000 chicanery as “foolish” behavior. By way of explanation he attempts to downplay the seriousness of his con job by chalking it to up his “chutzpah”. Nowhere in the interview was there any sign of actual remorse or sense of moral culpability. It left one with the impression that the word “chutzpah” is used by high-functioning Jewish sociopaths to justify their crimes. It’s all a game to them.
On Thursday, Obama administration got a facelift for Barack Obama’s bid for the second term in November 2012. It’s mainly to regain his lost popularity among the powerful 2% American Jewish minority.
Obama has picked the CIA Director Leon Panetta to replace retiring Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, while Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander in Afghanistan, will leave the Army to lead the CIA by September 1, 2011. Marine Lt. Gen. John R. Allen will take over from Petraeus in Afghanistan this fall to work with a new US ambassador, Ryan Crocker, selected to replace the current ambassador, Kark Eikenberry.
The Israel-Firster Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) praised President Barack Obama’s selections.
Though all of them are known for their pro-Israel and anti-Muslim rants – General David Petraeus as CIA Boss is a very bad omen for the Muslim world. Petraeus has been a vocal military voice for blaming Islamic Republic for America’s defeats in both Afghanistan and Iraq. In April 2008, he told the US Senate that Iran was responsible fot the death of hundreds of US soldiers and thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians. For his propaganda lies for the benefit of Israel, Professor James Petras called Petraeus Zionism’s military poodle. Gen. David Petreaus’ grandparents were allegedly Dutch Jewish. In fact Petreaus is a Jewish surname……..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/obama-shuffles-cabinet-for-the-lobby/
The Bavarian village of Oberammergau (pop. 5000) is planning to hold its 42st repeat of the ‘Oberammergau Passion Play’ this year against protests from European Jewish groups.
Jewish leaders, captained by Foxman, have been radically successful in their assault. In Oberammergau, the gospel has been stripped. Its testimony is unspeakable in public. A 375-year-old religious tradition—vowed by a city, to thank God for deliverance—has been knifed of its content. (What happened to the sovereignty of old culture? What happened to the sanctity of traditions?) Nothing could more clearly state unbelieving Jewry’s intent to make the New Testament itself unspeakable, unacceptable…illegal.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/passion-of-christ-the-adl-version/