Across Europe ethno-nationalist parties have been making considerable gains, but in Britain, one of the countries most threatened by mass immigration, multi-culturalism, and the liberal fascist thought crime legislation needed to maintain this unnatural state, the main ethno-nationalist party, the BNP, has been failing miserably.
In recent months, the party’s vote has dropped dramatically in every election, and it has even been humiliated twice in a row by UKIP, a civic nationalist party, in former party heartlands such as Oldham and Barnsley. What makes this so tragic is that for a few years in the last decade the BNP was the rising force in British politics. Led by Nick Griffin, the party weathered everything the establishment could throw at it and made one breakthrough after another.
In 2006, the party won 12 seats in elections for Barking and Dagenham London Borough Council, as part of widespread gains in other council elections. In 2008, Richard Barnbrook, the leader of the BNP group in Barking, was elected to the London Assembly. Then in 2009, Andrew Brons and Nick Griffin were elected as Members of the European Parliament.
Naturally, such success led to an intensive campaign against the party that included the usual media demonization, refusal by other parties and politicians to share platforms with the party, physical intimidation by the fascist Unite Against Fascism (sic) group, legal attacks on the party’s constitution and membership rules, and other underhanded tricks.
It would be easy to blame this massive anti-BNP campaign for the BNP’s stalled progress and recent losses but the evidence suggests otherwise. One of the keys to the BNP’s earlier success was the fact that it was seen as an outsider party by the large segment of the electorate who are deeply disenchanted with mainstream British politics. The attempt by the political establishment to marginalize and ostracize it therefore helped rather than hindered the party.
It is noteworthy that its greatest breakthroughs occurred after vicious, non-political attacks on the party. In 2004, Griffin and Mark Collett, Director of Publicity for the Party, were charged under Britain’s Orwellian thought crime laws of stirring up racial hatred after they made some run-of-the-mill comments about Islam. During the almost two-year legal case, which ended when the pair was acquitted in early 2006, the party continued to gain support.
Likewise on 18th November, 2008, Wikileaks published a list of over 10,000 BNP members, which included names, addresses and other details, in what was a clear attempt to intimidate members and those thinking of joining the party. BNP members have frequently been physically attacked or sacked in the past. Despite this, a few months later the party made its biggest breakthrough, gaining its two seats in the European Parliament.
The attacks by the establishment clearly backfired, so why has the BNP gone into decline? The evidence suggests that the main reason is that its greatest asset in the past, Nick Griffin, has turned into its greatest liability. Make no mistake about it: Griffin’s contribution to the rise of the BNP was massive. Before him it was still mired in neo-Nazi street politics. Griffin realized that, in order to grow, the party had to appeal to ordinary British voters with common sense policies that appealed to their natural sense of ethnic identity and survival. Under Griffin the party improved its image and became more media savvy. Instead of fighting street battles with leftist thugs or indulging in holocaust trainspotting, the party concentrated on improving its image and connecting with voters concerned about the disastrous direction the country was headed in.
But anybody closely watching the party over the last few years, will realize that Griffin has now become the main problem and, as long as he remains Chairman, the party will continue to stagnate, shrink, and die. This is because Griffin has disastrously adapted Louis XIV’s old aphorism “L’État, c’est moi” (“I am the State”) to the running of what is still, unfortunately, a minor British political party.
Griffin’s main weakness is the way that he antagonizes other members of the party and attempts to crush all opposition, usually accusing opponents of being traitors, plants, or spies. Fomenting such an atmosphere of paranoia also helps Griffin retain almost dictatorial control over the party. At present the party’s constitution gives the Chairman sweeping powers.
Given past attempts to infiltrate and sabotage the party, such powers may even be justifiable, but they have clearly been used against members whom everyone knows are sincere nationalists, people like Richard Barnbrook, Mark Collett, and Eddy Butler, the former head of the Elections Department who was widely credited with boosting the party’s ability to get out the vote. Last year Butler challenged Griffin for the leadership, but after failing to get the required number of nominations, he was expelled from the party for breaching its code of conduct, including section 12, which reads:
The spreading of false or malicious rumours shall be considered an offence against this Code of Conduct. So too shall be the deliberate causing of disruption to the working of our Party.
With the Chairman deciding what are false or malicious rumours and from whom they originate, this means that Griffin effectively has the power to expel anyone from the party anytime he likes. Such draconian power, if used extremely sparingly would be tolerable, but there is no indication that Griffin has the requisite magnanimity. Collett and Barnbrook have also been kicked out of the party. Their offence? To have sided with Butler.
The expulsion of key members and the disaffection of large parts of the party’s activist base under Griffin’s recent leadership have effectively hamstrung the party. Some have even said that Griffin is in effect the establishment’s most effective plant. My own view is that Griffin is a sincere nationalist, but that the pressures of leading the BNP have made him increasingly paranoid, while the habits of power are too engrained for him to willingly relinquish them.
Recently a new challenge to Griffin’s leadership has been launched by his fellow MEP Andrew Brons, who is campaigning against Griffin on five main points:
- Financial mismanagement
- His poor performance on the BBC’s political debate program “Question Time” in 2009
- Bad staffing choices, including nepotism
- Poor election results
- Dishonest reinterpretation and amending of constitutional decisions made at last year’s party conference
Brons is seen as the unity candidate, who wishes to recognize both Griffin’s past contribution to the party as well as the concerns of Griffin’s strongest critics. This is a role for which the well-spoken and magisterial former college lecturer is well suited. The important date is 26th of June, when a General Members’ Meeting will be held to decide the method by which the leadership election will be contested, but already Griffin seems to be up to his old tricks, aimed at keeping him as captain of a sinking ship.
Because of the threat of organized acts of violence by groups like the UAF, BNP meetings are always held at undisclosed locations with members showing up at a re-direction point where they are given directions to the venue. Griffin and his cronies have decided to hold the meeting near Liverpool, because this is one of the main Griffinite power bases. But the re-direction point will only remain open until 10.00 a.m., making it extremely difficult for members from the South, the East Midlands, the North East and Scotland to arrive at the re-direction point on time, a move designed to filter out opponents. There is also the chance that the quality of the directions may vary between those Griffin thinks are loyal to him and those he suspects of being his opponents.
If Griffin manages to defeat Bron’s leadership challenge, then there is every chance that some flimsy excuse will be found to expel Brons from the party in the same way that Butler was. If that happens then, Griffin will be unmistakably revealed as the cockerel that prefers to remain on top of a dunghill, rather than an effective leader of a party whose future success is vital to the survival of the British people.
Colin Liddell is a Tokyo-based journalist. This article was previously posted at AltRight. Reposted here with permission.
Facing the Future as a Minority
BNP represents only a minority of British Whites. It’s racist policies are mostly directed against British Muslims. The Jewish lobby groups like ‘British Friends of Israel’ used it to demonize Muslims and Palestinians to the benefit of Israel. Islamophobe Tony Blair also gave BNP support. However, the Jewish elites know that sooner or later, the White Europeans are going to know the truth that it’s the anti-Christ racist Jews who’re threat to the Western civilization and not Muslims.
One just has to look how Geert and other White neo-Nazis are honored in Israel.
BNP is also supported by Zionist Christians. they let their pants down when Tony Blair’s sister-in-law Lauren Booth converted to Islam while anchoring talk show on Iranian TV.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/booths-conversion-irks-lesbian-zionist/
Actually, Eilders is not “honored” in Israel. Jews love to use their Useful Idiot Shabbos Goy Bootlickers, but also take enormous delight in humialiting and degrading same. Witness the treatment of Wilders by Oganized Jewry, as well as the treatment of the obscene, and I believe deranged Glenn Beck.
Play me that sad tune on the smallest violin in the world.
Muslims don’t need any outside help being demonised; their holly book when read as an ideal is hideous in its attitudes to the non believers, the real world actions of islam towards non muslims in ‘islamic nations’ is just as hideous and the too often criminal behaviour and attidudes of too many muslim immigrants completes the sorry story.
When the copts of Egypt start getting treated with justice, come back with your complaints about the BNP demonising muslims.
Both Zionists and muslims are threats to Europe, Zionists are devious and work behind the shadows; muslims are closet-jihadists whose religion is fundamentally incompatible with the spirit of Europe. We can be good neighbors with muslims as soon as they leave. This view is growing in the street Rehmat. The best thing you can do to promote an alliance between white people and muslims is to advocate for muslims to leave Europe. Once you start that we can talk about an alliance.
Griffin was an articulate exponent of BNP views at an earlier stage of its development. See the Cook report in 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SmzuA6Ne4A
Incidentally, there is a story at the end of a student losing his academic career after writing about Jewish influence in Britain – thank goodness for Professor Macdonald for putting us straight!
Nowadays though, there are better voices available, including Andrew Brons and above all Jonathan Bowden. The first priority should be getting Bowden on Question Time as it would take the party miles forward in terms of intellectual credibility.
The party constitution, which was based none to subtly on the Leader principle and has apparently not been changed, is an obstacle to change and needs to be qualified. If that is not done, Griffin needs to be voted down.
PS I see our muslim faux friend is first in again with his usual ignorant comment. How long Oh Lord…
Bear – Yes I agree with you. Muslims to become civilized like western – idiots like you would like their Holy Qur’an to match Jewish Tamud by cursing Jesus, his mother Mary and rest of Christians.
However, the joke is – while Muslims want to cleanse Talmudic filth from the Middle East, 65 million Evangelist love Jews more than their Lord Christ.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/religious-hatred-in-israel/
Rehmat:
Name anything the Muslim nations have in common with the average white person on this website besides “disliking” jews. Your criticism of evangelicals currently liking jews too much is correct – but what do you offer us besides oil? Go back to your own miserable desert, leave us alone and maybe we can stop some of the idiots in our presence from trying to emancipate your completely oppressed and long suffering women.
@Rhemat, I’m not here because I’m philosemitic, I abore some of their teachings, I rather think that Christian Zionists are gullibe fools that have drawn us into needless unjust conflict with the muslim world. I will however suggest that the ‘image problem’ of muslims is substantially of their own creation and behaviour and can not be entirely blamed on zinists who often merely exploit weaknesses; There are issues in India between muslims and hindus for instance.
The Jewish media often portrays muslim culture as required: mostly through the ‘celebrate diversity’ multicultural filter when the promotion of immigraion is at stake; then as hopelessly nepostistic, fundementalist and backward when they need to show of the superior secular political freedoms of the Israel we should side with and finally when a military intervention is desired they tell us of how much Islam is a natural fit to freedom, democracy and ‘moms apple pie’ and will passionatly accept the regime our military helps the freedom loving middle easterners establish.
But you have to conced that much of the behaviour of muslims in the various muslim worlds is quite unappealing: the punishing of raped women for zina not having the 4 witnesses to prove a rape complaint, the mistrreatment of non-muslims of all kinds, the refusel of allowing people to unconvert out of the religion, the forcing of women into giant black bags called burquas the kind of thing we saw with the horrific rape of Lara Logan, the bombing of Australian Tourists in a Balinese nightclub the sexual predation on western women.
Is Islam capable of managing these excesses? I have my doubts.
“Tony Blair also gave BNP support.”
Really? When? I must have missed that revelation.
“‘British Friends of Israel’”
I think you mean ‘Conservative Friends of Israel’ and ‘Labour Friends of Israel’.
I’m not British but I totally disagree with this article.
Nick Griffin needs to keep firm reins on this party because if he and his top men lose control….then it’s just a matter of time before the party becomes more and more liberal. He is the King. I want him to be the King. I trust him to do the right thing. If they start electing different people then pretty soon the party will lose it’s focus. Nick Griffin is to the BNP as Vladimir Putin is to Russia. You don’t mess with that.
I don’t know about the other two men, But Richard Barnbrook was a Disaster Waiting to Happen. He couldn’t make it work with Simone (yes that is important, getting married gets rid of a key vulnerability known as women), and he Wouldn’t Stop Wearing Stupid Brown Suits. I think he’s a genuine Nationalist, but he was getting too big for his britches. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you and he publicly insulted Nick. Screw that.
Anyways, I trust Nick. Andrew Brons should work with Nick instead of trying to replace him. King Arthur had his knights, and the knights didn’t try to kick King Arthur out.
Griffin started stumbling when the odious Arthur Kemp was permitted to enter the Secntum Sanctorum. Oh, he makes pretty speeched, fer sher – but By Their Fruits Ye Shall Know Them. disaster follows in Kemp’s wake…
Brons – I can’t say enough nice things about him. Is Tim Rait still around? Rait’s the embodiment of the English Gentleman. He’s what England should be.
I am well aware of the Arthur Kemp hatred. Because of him (allegedly) a fellow nationalist rotted in a South African jail. (I think that’s the story right?)
I don’t know what went on back in South Africa. I don’t know what the truth is. But I do know that of the two camps—-The Arthur Kemp haters and the BNP—-The BNP camp has inspired pro-white movements all over Europe. The Arthur Kemp hater movements have done jack shit.
In the last few years I’ve seen a lot of articles and books come out of Arthur and nothing blatantly bad. So I have to go with what I see presently and so far I see nothing to warrant some type of overthrow.
Besides, I trust Simon Darby, he is awesome and he’s in the inner circle also. So the Arthur Kemp thing worries me not.
British people should say “A plague on both your houses” to both the Muslim interlopers and the Jewish ones in UK. The former group are, in the main, low average IQ street pests who vociferously support anti – host activity while the latter group operates at a vastly more rarefied level of social disruption.
White nations must support Israel’s existence if for no other reason than the avoidance of a Jewish refugee flood into our homelands in the (at present unlikely) event of a Muslim victory over the Jewish State.
Jews have been wrecking England ever since Cromwell let ‘em back in.
The BNP has had difficult state legal attacks to navigate through. For instance the requirement that the BNP admit non White members or non native British members opens up the party rank and file to ‘branch stacking’ by hostile ethnic groups. The possibillity or rather reality of infiltration is also very real. Exactly how to keep the organisation from being co-opted is a difficult question to answer.
I’ve always thought that the BNP could do much better in leadership than griffin .
The guy comes across as a greasy weasel as he certainly does not present an image of being trust worthy .
You can’t tell me that there is not a better pro white leader in all of Britain than griffin .
I don’t understand why you say there must be someone better than him when he is Single Handedly Responsible for rescuing the pro-white movement to begin with.
Well Masculinity” – maybe you OUGHT to take 5 seconds out of your thrilling action-packed day, and INVESTIGATE “what happened in South Africa” as past preformance predicts future outcome.
The BNP was formed before that subversive loser Kemp sunk his claws in.
In the next installment we may learn that Griffin’s real name is Nahum Schwarzbaum. Grandson of a successful fur dealer from Krakow, Poland.
Meantime, in the parallel biosphere of Western Europe – John Galliano goes on trial for allegedly hurling anti-semitic™ abuse @ random strangers.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/galliano-tell-trial-lost-booze-drugs-104817162.html
Should we defend Galleano? Maybe given the recent articles on “the Jewish war on Aryan Beauty” in the TOO Galeano was intuitively on to something, Unfortunatly cranking out these suspicons against someone irritating him who happened to have Leventine looks while under the influence of truth serum ala Mel Gibson doesn’t help the credibillity of the cause.
Griffin has become another typical politician; obsessed with getting elected and little else. Gods, what can be done about the state of my ancestral land these days? Sadly, I think Britain is through.
[ I don’t understand why you say there must be someone better than him when he is Single Handedly Responsible for rescuing the pro-white movement to begin with. ]
In my humble opinion , griffin was the beneficiary of being in the right place at the right time and along with good help . Many in england are so completely fed up with multi-cult leftism that a chimp would have done well leading a pro-white movement .
As demonized as he has been …
A guy like David Duke is a gifted and polished politician with great communication skills and who inspires trust and he has great potential .
Griffin not so much .
David Duke has mended his BNP racist views since he left KKK. However, he is more hated by Jewish groups than when he was leader of KKK because in the past he targeted Blacks while now he targets Jewish power in the West. Furthermore, since he attended Tehran Holocaust Conference in December 2006 – he has been painted as ‘modern Hitler’.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/rachel-corrie-mother-teresa-for-islamists/
John hearns,
You are absolutely right about David Duke.
He is the best that we have, besides intellectuals such as Prof. McDonald.
They try, of course, to find dirt on him. They sent him to federal prison on flimsy charges. I heard that while in prison, both the Aryan Brotherhood and the Mexicans protected him.
The Mexicans respected him as an honorable man.
Here comesagain Rehmat with his baloney: “David Duke has mended his BNP racist views since he left KKK”
Only Rehmat knows what that means.
Duke stopped using terms like “nigger” and now he uses the politically correct term of “African -American”.
He never changed his racism.
Racism means a realistic view of the world, versus the Rehmats of this world who profess to oppose the Jews, but swallow the Jews most effective weapon of Boasism-Gouldism.
To protect and to preserve the English people, for example, one must by logical necessity exclude racial and cultural aliens from England, without exception.
Even the most brilliant and civilized Muslims and Jews have no place in England, only as tourists or temporary visitors.
England is the land of the English and only of the English.
Other whites may assimilate into England, but Non-whites NEVER.
The same way Arabia is for the Arabs and no one else.
Racism means mutual respect for the racial and territorial integrity of different races.
As the old saying goes, good fences make good neighbors.
Yes I agree with you Collin Liddell, he should have fallen on his sword at the last election when they didn’t even win a seat and their Web Master turned out to be a traitor. Griffin is something of a Buffoon, hey look every body I’m going to the Queens tea party, yahooo. I even donated to their cause.
Another comment above made the astute point that he has become just another useless self serving politician, enjoying the limelight.
@ Ciaran, june22,2011-9:47 pm.
{“…Jews have been wrecking England ever since Cromwell let ‘em back in…”}
Right,and not only did they wreck England,they made London their (Rothschild) Headquarters to wreck the whole world via the British Empire.
Much of what we see as British crimes in history were actually JEWISH crimes perpetrated by using the powers of the British Empire. Think about the opium wars against China, the Boer wars in South Africa, Britain’s participation in WWl and WWll, the Balfour declaration etc. Britain’s misbehaviour against the Irish and the Indians can probably be ascribed to the same source also. Now that the British Empire has gone, the Jews are concentrating on “domestic wrecking”. No British politician can rise to power who does not promote mass Third World immigration, thus fulfilling the Jewish dream of White Genocide. All of this because the stupid belief of Cromwell’s in the Jews as “God’s Chosen People”.
The BNP, Britain’s only hope no matter how imperfect, has to fight a formidable power in the Jews. They have chosen to concentrate on the effect (the Muslims) rather than on the cause (the Jews) for tactical reasons. It has to be seen whether that will work.
That “Chosen People” false-hoods – Chosen for WHAT? ANY genuine Christian KNOWS that the Advent of the Christos revokes the original covanent. The Christ’s Ministry is the NEW Covenant.
FYI – Cromwell was just a greedy sell-out.
Franklin Ryckaert [June 23, 2011 - 3:45 am] …
I doubt I could have written a better comment had I spent a couple of hours mulling it over. You pointed to absolutely everything I would have wanted to point to. Well done Franklin!
It remains to be seen whether the BNP’s policy of avoiding the main issue, i.e. concentrating on ‘The Muzzies’, will work? One wonders how much longer we have left to indulge in such ‘cunning’ tactics….
Read the comments on this blog before judging Nick…
http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2011/06/day-griffin-signed-his-own-death.html
The first comment on that blog is where I’m coming from….Nick Griffin leaves then everyone will Smell Blood. Simple as That.
If griffin were true to the cause , over his own personal indulgence , then he would do what is needed and and step down and make a leadership transfer smoothly . There is no shame in being a back field adviser .
I believe that the cause trumps all and anyone who can’t make sacrifices must not have their heart in the right place .
The best option for those dissatisfied with nationalist leadership is to form their own organizations and parties.
I was informed some years ago by the BNP’s former librarian that insiders considered Griffin a double-agent, covertly employed to undermine the party. Seems like he has succeeded.
Good analysis of the BNP.
Griffin has got way too much negative baggage to progress the BNP into a positive future and he should stand down.
Any leader of a White nationalist party must be a genuinely decent, non-threatening type, and Griffin and his guys all come across as thuggish. I know people who are concerned about immigration and the only reason they don’t or won’t vote BNP is for that reason. White Brits just don’t trust them.
Sure the media has portrayed then in this thuggish light but the thuggishness was already there.
Having said that, I still support Griff and the BNP for the reason that they’re the only ones who speak for people like me. And this is the only time I’ve ever written critically of them.
Image is everything in this war.
I hope the A3P learns from the BNP’s errors.
Too much emphasis on what has been done wrong is unhealthy.
I’d like to see more in depth study of nationalist right-wing parties which are large and potentially influential: French National Front, Austrian Freedom Party, Flemish Vlaams Blok, Hungarian Jobbik (or even the mainstream right-wing parties in Hungary!)
What are the central Europeans doing right? How can Northern European and Anglo-sphere nationalists learn from them?
My first thought is this: Le Pen, Haider, and especially Jobbik are not afraid of engaging in respectful, fact based criticism of the Jews, when appropriate.
There is something to be said for taking a courageous stand for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, damn the consequences, even if it offends the Jews, even if there are severe social and economic consequences. At least your conscience will be clean.
On the other hand, there is something to be said for conforming to the mainstream hypocrisy, and garnering the rewards.
However, there is NOTHING to be said for suffering social and economic ruin, just to replace one hypocritical double standard (Whites can be criticized, but not Blacks/Muslims/Jews) with another hypocritical double standard (Blacks/Muslims can be criticized, but not Jews). This is what Jared Taylor, Larry Auster and John Derbyshire ask of us. Hell no!
@ Whites Unite, june 24,2011-9:15 am.
“…what are the Central Europeans doing right?…”
“…Le Pen,Haider,and especially Jobbik are not afraid of engaging in respectful,fact based criticism of Jews,when appropriate…”
All of this demonstrates that if you want to solve a problem you must tackle its CAUSE and not only its EFFECTS.Mass-immigration and social dysfunction of non-Whites is not the cause of the White man’s problems,it is the effect of JEWISH misbehaviour.To criticize Jews indeed requires courage,but for chrissake how can you fight a battle WITHOUT courage?
The BNP under Griffin has moderated itself to such an extent, that it is now ineffective as a racial nationalist political party. The parties in Britain that best suit our cause now are the National Front and the British People’s Party; though both have had little success of late (or ever, in the latter’s case). Far from the future success of the BNP being ‘vital to the survival of the British people’, I have to agree with William Pierce on this subject; that any sort of democratic process is completey futile for us, at least while Zionists control our media.
Colin Liddell is living in a fantasy world, immediately after the BNP got a couple of Euro MPs a publicly funded quango was sicced on them and almost succeeded in bankrupting the party with a court case. It is all too obvious to me that attacks by the establishment have not backfired.
Any future BNP electoral successes will provoke intensified persecution. Bron’s supporters are deluding themselves if they think he would cope any better with the establishment attacks which Griffin has faced. (Although that is largely academic as if the BNP were led by Bron there would be less danger of legal persecution by the establishment because there would be virtually no electoral success.)
The fact that the BNP appointed the Jew Patricia Feldman Richardson as one of its candidates without being legally obliged to, says it all about the current state of the party.
The BNP are not in a good state but that’s because they have their bank accounts closed down, are dragged into court by lavishly funded race ‘equality’ organizations and are completely without legal representation at vital times. The Jewish Chronicle gloats here about ‘a “golden opportunity” for voters to dismantle the BNP as a political force.’ And some nationalists seem to be gloating along with them.
I don’t know how many people came forward to run in her ward, but Richardson may have been the best (or even the only) viable candidate. Dan Kelley was a far worse choice.
I don’t know much about the inner workings of the BNP. From what little I’ve seen of Nick Griffin he seems to be lacking in charisma, a serious shortcoming in the age of mass media.
Native Britons are facing extermination as a result of a relentless neo-Marxist assault the last 50 or 60 years. I have no doubt that British nationalists will eventually be able to turn the tide. What role the BNP will play, if any, remains to be seen.
The success of the BNP in 2009 was manifested in the relentless media campaign against them. Everyday new articles would appear mainly written by ” Searchlight” journalists along the line that the BNP eats babys for breakfast. This has disappeared from the media over the last year as the BNP poses no threat.
So why should they have failed when the problems of the indigenous are so acute in England? The turing point was the victory of the BNP in the 2009 Euro elections. Its leader Nick Griffin was exposed as not up to the task and his quite frankly lamentable performance on the BBC Question time programme confirmed this. He was warned many times it was a trap and set up and prepare his answers accordingly and go on the attack. Instead he said he prepared for a normal Question time with questions re the economy etc. He was warned. His performance was embarassing. He needs to go and British nationalism needs to unite behind someone new. The Marie Le Penn moment has arrived.
Griffin is an asset on the whole as a political bruiser, but vulnerable on his own as he lacks the intellectual depth of Bowden and has a history that he finds hard to speak to having moved so far to the centre. I thought he could have done worse on QT, but in the end he was outfoxed on his own ground, even though it was a necessary learning experience for the party.
There isn’t much difference between British WASP and Jewish elites. This is a feature of British society that Amercians seem not to get. The Americans backed the wrong team in 1914 and again in 1939. Neither conflict was any of their business.
Nationalist parties and activists in Western countries could help themselves out a great deal by backing off of the issues of womens’ rights and family planning. I know, beyond all doubt, that it turns off a great many decent and thoughtful possible supporters, especially women– for good reason.
Also, I have become more and more aware of a tendency among white nationalists to dismiss all the good a particular leader might be doing because he or she does not express an adherence to an anti-secular form of Christian religiosity. Marine Le Pen is an example of such a leader. I know that many have gone so far as to deem her an “enemy” because she does not have a pathological loathing for all homosexuals, because she supports family planning, and because she does not believe that a collection of cells that has not developed the capacity to be aware trumps the health and welfare of a sentient human being. I am quite sure that Ms. Le Pen has her flaws (some serious, no doubt), but to dismiss her for being too “secular” seems counterproductive and, even, childish.
I am no fan of the “feminism” promoted by the likes of Gerda Lerner, Andrea Dworkin and their admirers. In fact, I find it disgusting and destructive– in no small measure because of its demonetization of men and the institution of the family. However, one of the reasons I want the West to succeed and prosper is that, in general, women are not treated like dogs and/or vessels for reproduction.
Also, family planning, on so many levels, especially in a country that actually protects its borders, makes a lot of sense.
[ and because she does not believe that a collection of cells that has not developed the capacity to be aware trumps the health and welfare of a sentient human being. ]
You talk about a biased description of what amounts to the snuffing out unborn human life .
[ However, one of the reasons I want the West to succeed and prosper is that, in general, women are not treated like dogs and/or vessels for reproduction. ]
Do you think that your great grandma and other pre-feminist women were treated like dogs and/or baby factories ?
Do you think that post feminist women are treated better ?
I don’t .
Mr. Hearns,
As I tried to indicate with my comment, I have many problems with “feminism,” too. I believe that much of it is thoroughly dishonest and destructive.
One of its most obvious and ugly lies is that men, especially men of European heritage, are, on a massive scale, abusive, insensitive and predatory. One need look no further than the grossly exaggerated percentages of females that have been raped/abused– numbers that are still foisted on unsuspecting college students of both sexes, even though they have been debunked.
Also, it has been a very interesting and enlightening experience to talk with elderly female members of my own family, and to hear about the world they (and their mothers) grew up in. Not only have they indicated that they felt safer and, therefore, freer when they were growing up. What they have shared with me contradicts much “feminist” dogma. Some ran businesses; some helped run businesses; some pursued higher education; some enrolled in technical training of some kind, etc. And, when hearing about these things, I do not remember one of them mentioning any kind of barrier.
Thinking about those discussions, which have been many, several things occur to me. My mother, my grandmothers, my great grandmothers, and their contemporaries were able to do things that one would think impossible if he was to believe in “feminist” dogma. On top of that, they are/were much better read and better critical thinkers, and have/had many more skills, than most women I have met today. And, as I mentioned above, they described feeling safer and freer.
It is hard to imagine a woman feeling comfortable walking alone in a typical city by herself at night. Well, the women I referred to here did, many decades ago.
Anyway, thank you for your feedback.
[ a country that actually protects its borders, makes a lot of sense.]
Agreed .
Sorry to harp. About those experiences my grandmothers and great grandmothers had…
Did they know how to have a fun time! Even while responsibly raising healthy families. Going to community events in public spaces, going to neighborhood parties, dancing, drinking and smoking with their husbands. You know? Doing all those things that we are no longer allowed to do– further atomizing us, sucking the fun out of life, and on and on.
Yeah. Something definately does stink today.
@ Mark Hess
No harp ,
just good perspective.
* Gasp *
smoking and drinking is fun ?
big brother ( or is it big sister ? ) would say that is bad think !
I do think that life was more fun and better for everyone when the so called ” patriarch ” was in charge.
Not that men have ever really been in charge of women . We all know that ! lol
Not now, and definitely not then.
Colin, why can’t we, or why don’t we, create another White movement in Britain? Whoever said that the BNP speak exclusively for White Brits? I think we need another white movement, one where the people involved have no links to holocaust denial, violence or crime.
TOO, that 6 part Professor MacDonald lecture on Jewish intellectual movements is excellent!
When concern turns to the desired future, while engaged in conversation or while reading articles such as the above, I am reminded of a cave full of dancing shadows, of men shying away, shrinking from the golden rays eminating from the once-forbidden light. If we are patient, and if we are methodical, and if fortune be at our side, then-and only then will we be successful: bringing ours to the glory and leaving theirs to history’s dustbin.
Dear all don’t be led astray by all the Anti Griffin comments. I will tell you now Nick Griffin will be overwhelmingly re- elected at the next leadership contest. A lot of people have got the Knife out for N,G because he tells you straight to your face, you are good or un good, a lot of people don’t like that because they have never been confronted by the truth about themselves before and as they say, the truth hurts. Names have been banded about as future Chairman, a Mr Brons has laid down a challenge to take the leadership, I knew the chap way back in the old NF days, an honest, sincere, dedicated Nationalist but I am afraid not for me. He you see, is such a frightfully, frightfully nice chap, would not intentionally hurt a fly, that for me is the problem, I like others don’t want a frightfully, frightfully nice person who gets along with all to be leader of the BNP, I want along with others a brutally honest no holds bared straight talking person and Mr Griffin fits the bill. It is those frightfully, frightfully nice persons who have destroyed the Old Labour party, frightfully frightfully nice persons who have destroyed the Conservative party, frightfully, frightfully nice persons who have destroyed our industry our country. Those frightfully, frightfully nice types please take a back seat, they would without realising it destroy the BNP. Other names have been banded about, for me they are a collection of drunks and miss-fits and Genetic simpletons, forget them, could say more but that will do for now.
@ Colin Liddell …
I read your article with great interest, as I am looking for guidance as to Nick Griffin’s actual performance as BNP leader. I too watched the Question Time episode, and winced, although I had much sympathy for Mr. Griffin, as it was clear he had walked into a sophisticated trap … a completely impossible situation. With hindsight, it is of course easy to see that the major error was in agreeing to join the BBC’s discussion panel in the first place.
I am not entirely in tune with the current state of the BNP as I do not live in Britain. I live in exile. I was pushed out of my country by a cocktail comprising the collapse of British industry (I am an licensed Engineer), rabid feminism, and the negative equity I suffered following the nationwide property price collapse of the early 1990s. I was also pushed out of my country by rampant ageism. When aged 40, I was already considered “over the hill” in the minds of my fellow countrymen (and especially by my fellow countrywomen … who have become a total disgrace, and a laughing stock to every male south of the Maghreb, or east of Italy).
My own impressions of Nick Griffin is that he has done a fine job picking up the BNP by its bootstraps and improving its internal workings, administration, and branding. Under his leadership, certain hot issues have been brought to the public’s attention, such as the sexual grooming of under-aged girls by Pakistani’s in Bradford, and elsewhere across the north of England. But for all that, he still lacks the charisma and force necessary to catapult the BNP to the levels it must soon operate at. Unfortunately, some years ago he lost one eye due to an accident with a shotgun, and this false eye looks bad on television. I know this sounds petty, but this simple image-thing makes him too vulnerable to ridicule (think of Gordon Brown with his defective eye and peculiar body language!). Furthermore, I have never considered Nick Griffin as someone who has the intellectual force to overcome difficult and hostile questioning … such as those routinely concocted by those Jewified sleuths filling the gilded halls of BBC.
I do believe it is time for a change of leadership in the BNP. I suspect Nick Griffin is suffering emotional fall-out from the constant attacks and pressures of the past 10 years or so. I do detect a degree of paranoia in his mannerisms. And, he has probably offended a few too many people for him to be tolerated for much longer. We should be sympathetic (lesser men would have collapsed under such pressure by now) … but … if he was truly wise, he would resign in an orderly fashion after first helping to identify a list of likely candidates to replace him. There is also much more for Nick Griffin to contribute in future years without the need to cling on to the leadership chair’s power and prestige.
Having said that, if it is indeed true that he is clinging to his leadership position in order to avoid criminal prosecution due to financial irregularities (as another commenter mentioned earlier – scroll up) then of course nationalists throughout Britain will find themselves in uncharted waters, and without a rudder … at least for longer than is comfortable.
I would also agree with those commenters who have described the BNP as a one-man show. It has to be more than this, but it has not been. The image of Nick Griffin is ubiquitous, and this needs to change. The BNP should find within its ranks at least three icons to present to the public. It also needs to reach out to all nationalist movements and parties on the European Continent, in order to share strategies and form alliances; perhaps even hold a large conference somewhere stuffed full of delegates from all of Europe’s regions.
Meanwhile, outside of the BNP, the recent “Britain First” initiative has been a good one, in my opinion. The materials now being sent to me by e-mail look well conceived and well-designed. The “Britain First” website already looks more credible and convincing than the BNP’s. The BNP focuses far too much on supposed World War Two heroics and silly jingoisms.
I really cannot stand any Englishman making fun of the Germans. It has gone far past a joke, and this habit has already become self-destructing. Vilifying our close cousins is madness and must be discouraged at every opportunity. Let us all stop doing the Jew’s work! Those who make fun of the Germans are simply ignorant, often childish, and lack any proper understanding of European history between 1789 and 1942, and in particular of those events and attitudes triggered by the Treaty of Versailles that led Europe to September 1939.
By destroying Germany (the Third Reich) we committed racial suicide, from which we Whites may never recover. The jury is still out here, because we have only recently collectively realized that we actually do have something to recover from!! There is still time to repair the damage done. But, we must start to move more urgently and with more determination than ever. We have dedicated enemies, and truly it is time we started to unmercifully make them scream and squeal like the rats they are.
Clarification … when I wrote previously:
I was actually referring to the off-site article by Lee Barnes, kindly linked to by Masculinity [June 23, 2011 - 10:36 am]. My apologies for any confusion caused.
This part of the article stands out:
Before him it was still mired in neo-Nazi street politics. Griffin realized that, in order to grow, the party had to appeal to ordinary British voters with common sense policies that appealed to their natural sense of ethnic identity and survival. Under Griffin the party improved its image and became more media savvy. Instead of fighting street battles with leftist thugs or indulging in holocaust trainspotting, the party concentrated on improving its image and connecting with voters concerned about the disastrous direction the country was headed in.
This is the path to success. White Advocacy needs to continue appealing to normal middle class White people. It doesn’t have to get a majority of them, but if it ever gets even a sizable minority of them, we will have a real chance at change.
Who are behind the so-called English Nationalism? Well take for example the Neo-Nazi English Defence League (being very anti-Muslim) which has recently exposed their rooted love Jews and Israel. In a recent statement EDL chief Tommy Robinson said: “The English Defence League was formed two years ago. One of the fundamental beliefs that this movement was built on was its support for Israel’s right to defend itself. In our first demonstrations, we went to Birmingham, and we flew the flag of Israel, the Star of David. In the first public speech I ever gave, I wore the Star of David in Leeds. The reason for this is because Israel is a shining star of democracy. If Israel falls, we all fall. This is what our movement has been built on for two years”.
So, who can blame British FM, who told Jewish goup last year that he will fight Iran for Israel – not much a different staement which every American White Christian leaders have been making for the last six decades.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/hague-i-will-fight-iran-for-israel/