Paul Craig Roberts made an intriguing reference the other day. He wrote that “a noted philosopher wrote an article in which he suggested that Americans live in an artificial or virtual reality. Another noted philosopher said that he thought there was a 25% chance that the philosopher was right. I am convinced that he is right. Americans live in the Matrix. Nothing that they know or think that they know is correct.” I agree.
The media, of course, is a constituent part of that Matrix, and I am particularly interested in the Hollywood branch of the media. Needless to say, most TOO readers are probably aware of Hollywood’s pronounced anti-White, anti-Christian bias and are clued in to the ways they subvert traditional White Christian culture.
One of my favorite essays unpacking Hollywood’s subversion has always been Kevin Beary’s “Adorno’s Bastards: Pleasantville and the Frankfurt School,” which parses the storyline of the anti-White film Pleasantville. Unfortunately, Beary’s colorful site with film stills has disappeared, leaving only this truncated version on another site.
Readers know I have done readings of many films and may also know that I’ve written quite a bit about Jewish involvement in finance and deception in that field (see here, here, and here). Today I’d like to write a review of a movie that encompasses both.
J.C. Chandor’s 2011 film Margin Call tells a story that loosely mirrors the fall of Wall Street giant Lehman Brothers. Even for Hollywood, however, the deception in this movie is staggering, and it occurs on many levels. It terrifies me to think that the masses will swallow this tale, particularly the images that will have such a powerful subliminal impact.
Now picture this: The Margin Call premise is that a group of WASPs and a Catholic or two run a leading investment bank on Wall Street. Things turn sour, however, and the firm is looking at bankruptcy unless they can pull off a miracle.
Obviously, such a scenario makes little real-world sense. In the real world, Wall Street is heavily Jewish, especially the investment banks. This is so obvious that Wiki has a special segment called Jewish investment banks, which includes, in part:
Jewish banking houses were instrumental to the process of capital formation in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century. Modern banking in Europe and the United States was influenced by Jewish financiers, such as the Rothschild family and Warburg family, and Jews were major contributors to the establishment of important investment banks on Wall Street.
In the middle of the nineteenth century, a number of German Jews founded investment banking firms which later became mainstays of the industry. Most prominent Jewish banks in the United States were investment banks, rather than commercial banks. … In many cases, the efforts of Jewish immigrants to start banks was enabled due to the substantial support of their Jewish banking connections in Europe.
Several major banks were started following the mid-1800s by Jews, including Goldman Sachs (founded by Samuel Sachs and Marcus Goldman), Kuhn Loeb (Solomon Loeb and Jacob H. Schiff), Lehman Brothers (Henry Lehman), Salomon Brothers, and Bache & Co. (founded by Jules Bache).
So Lehman Brothers was a classic Jewish investment bank. For those wishing to find more explicit discussion about the Jewish origins and uninterrupted Jewish roots of Lehman Brothers, see the following: Stephen Birmingham, Our Crowd: The Great Jewish Families of New York (New York: Harper and Row, 1967) and The Rest of Us: The Rise of America’s Eastern European Jews, (Boston: Little, Brown & Company, 1984); Jean Baer, The Self-Chosen: “Our Crowd” is Dead — Long Live Our Crowd (New York: Arbor House, 1982); Richard L. Zweigenhaft and G. William Domhoff, Jews in the Protestant Establishment (New York: Praeger Publishers, 1982); and Gerald Krefetz, Jews and Money: The Myths and the Reality (New Haven and New York: Ticknor and Fields, 1982).
Priceless in this respect is Judith Ramsey Ehrlich and Barry J. Rehfeld’s The New Crowd: The Changing of the Jewish Guard on Wall Street (New York: HarperPerennial, 1989); they personally interviewed many of the Jewish participants under discussion here. They also fill out background on Lehman partners and traders, contrasting, for example, “Our Crowd” Bobbie Lehman with the coarse and brash Lewis Glucksman. Typically, they write of Lehman Brothers:
Chairman Frederick Ehrman and president Warren Hellman, who was Ehrman’s nephew, were the very soul of Our Crowd’s Jewish banking aristocracy. The Hellmans had built the Wells Fargo bank in San Francisco into one of the most post powerful financial institutions in the country. They were related by marriage to the Seligmans, the most important Our Crowd family in New York during the nineteenth century.
To drive home how common it is to have Jewish executives in these investment firms, note that Ehrlich and Rehfeld write that “Without consulting anyone,” Glucksman as chief executive of Lehman “appointed as president of the firm his closest ally, Robert S. Rubin.” That is a different banker from former Secretary of the Treasury, Goldman Sachs co-chairman, and later Chairman of Citibank Robert E. Rubin.
The last CEO of Lehman Brothers, from 1994–2008 was Richard Fuld, born to Jewish parents in New York City. When, at a Congressional committee hearing, fellow Jew Rep. Henry Waxman said to Fuld, “Your company is now bankrupt, our economy is in crisis, but you get to keep $480 million,” Fuld corrected him by saying it was only $300 million.
Ehrlich and Rehfeld conclude that these Jewish “New Crowd” bankers “challenged the dominance of the old corporate culture, overturned the traditional rigid management hierarchy . . . [and in] the process, the New Crowd broke the stranglehold of the Establishment Wasp bankers.” Note that when WASPs dominate an industry, the word ‘stranglehold’ is used. However, to say that Jews have a “stranglehold” on investment banking or on Hollywood would be deemed anti-Semitic.
Kevin Spacey in Margin Call
Further, out on the trading floor we see two young traders, Peter Sullivan (Zachary Quinto) and Seth Bregman (Penn Badgley). At least these young men have dark hair.
Zachary Quinto as Peter Sullivan and Penn Dayton Badgley as Seth Bregman in Margin Call
Paul Bettany as trader Will Emerson in Margin Call
More amazing still, we find that Sam Rogers, boss has a Jewish name (Jared Cohen) but is played by blond, blue-eyed actor Simon Baker.
Simon Baker as Jared Cohen in Margin Call
Most egregiously, however, is the fact that the part of Lehman Bros. CEO is played by none other than the arch-British-Aryan actor Jeremy Irons.
Jeremy Irons as the CEO of Lehman Bros.
Tellingly, Irons’ character is given the name “James Tuld,” which, as a Wall Street Journal article, quoting the filmmakers, tells us “is a hybrid of Merrill Lynch’s ex-CEO John Thain [who is not Jewish] and Lehman Brothers’ ex-CEO Dick Fuld.” Perhaps bringing in Thain is another way of defusing the Jewish angle. I mean, why not have the character be a cross between Richard Fuld and Lloyd Blankfein? Or Richard Fuld and Robert E. Rubin?
Richard Fuld
Next, let’s consider the plot of the film. As in real life back in 2008, the market is falling fast and the investment firm in the movie is feeling the pain. Staff is let go, and the survivors anxiously mill about the office. As I will explain later, trader Peter Sullivan, working late, discovers that the firm’s exposure is potentially greater than the entire value of the firm, meaning bankruptcy if the market goes not improve markedly. And there is little hope of the market improving.
The alarm goes up the chain of command and eventually CEO Tuld helicopters in for a power meeting. Upper class, he is rather casual and composed given the predicament his firm is in. But we quickly realize that he’s led a blessed existence, one where things come to him without effort. As he comments when addressing the assembled staff, “It wasn’t brains that got me here.” White male privilege, I suppose. Surely he’s not implying that Jewish connections have anything to do with it.
Though Tuld does think and act in a way that could be termed immoral, Irons’ playing of the role renders his attitude as less threatening, tinged very slightly with a wry, detached view of the whole situation. A product of privilege, Tuld can casually say that it’s only paper money they’re talking about. He’s simply taking an upper-class position where the impact of his decisions on his subordinates does not enter into his thinking.
Sam Rogers, on the other hand, is the moral center of the film, shown in part by his weeping over the cancer diagnosis his dog has just received. As the firm’s crisis intensifies, he is the most troubled by the moral implications of the actions the firm will likely take. And those actions, as dictated by Fuld, entail the deceitful liquidation of all the toxic assets on the firm’s books. Hundreds of millions of dollars of junk knowingly peddled to client’s who (in general) trust the firm. For Tuld, it is just part of a game of musical chairs where someone will be left standing when the music stops. He aims to act first and secure a coveted chair.
Rogers initially opposes this course, telling his boss “You’re selling something you know has no value.” Unperturbed, Tuld replies with resignation, “The numbers, they just don’t add up anymore.” A natural-born manipulator, Tuld puts in motion his plan to save the firm, and begins by selecting someone to take the fall. That person is chief risk management officer Sarah Robertson (Demi Moore). In the scene where Tuld persuades Robertson to take the fall, Irons’ acting is superb, as he is both reassuringly friendly yet implacable. Scenes like this confirm my suspicion that the truly great actors are always British.
The climax of the film comes when Rogers must make a choice: follow his conscience or save the firm (and earn himself a lot of money in the process). He chooses to save the firm, which means deceiving his sales staff (who really aren’t that clueless) and his buyers. Calls are made and heavy discounts given. The worthless assets are now someone else’s problem.
Crushed at his own lack of moral fiber, Rogers confronts Tuld as the latter nonchalantly eats his meal alone in the executive dining room high over Manhattan. Rogers is furious, boiling over with a mix of emotions, while Tuld could be a diner merely contemplating how to spend an upcoming weekend. Rogers hurls bitter accusations at Tuld, but Tuld, tucking into his food, simply states, “I’m starting to feel a little better about this thing.” After all, his millions are safe again.
Returning to my original thesis that Margin Call is meant as deliberate deception concerning who, exactly, is to blame for the perilous financial crisis beginning in the fall of 2008, we now encounter the most blatant message-implanting of the entire movie: the early firing of a dedicated employee.
The action begins with the entrance of a team of consultants hired to fire a long list of employees. Composed of three White women and one black man, my initial reaction was to groan that this was another Hollywood attempt at visual social engineering, but it turns out that they’re the bad guys. The scene reminded me of George Clooney’s 2009 movie Up in the Air, where he plays a consultant whose job is to lay people off for heartless executives who are too chicken to do it themselves. There, though, Clooney was fairly charming, but the woman who fires risk manager Eric Dale is seriously creepy, over-enunciating every word as she blinklessly explains her mission. If I were a blade runner, I would assuredly terminate her under suspicion of being a replicant.
Eric Dale has a powerful position, but he appears as a genuinely nice guy. Family photos cover his desk, and he speaks politely. He looks like the “heroic” Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Shalom Bernanke:
Here’s the Eric Dale character:
Eric Dale played by Stanley Tucci
In a movie about a Wall Street investment firm, I certainly thought the character looked Jewish. To be sure, Stanley Tucci, the actor, is Italian American, but what counts is his screen role, and he easily passes as Jewish in that Wall Street setting. And what does the movie say about him? It says that he is a victim of the greedy and hard-hearted White people around him. Through no fault of his own, he is evicted from his office and his career comes to an end with his meager possessions in a few boxes. Ever conscientious, however, he even gives Peter Sullivan, one of his subordinates, a memory stick containing the information about the toxic assets on the firm’s books. That information, as we saw, allows the firm to survive. Dale is later seen returning to the firm after they have begged him for his expertise; he complies.
One more comment about the plot. As noted, Sam Rogers is the moral center of the film. He wants to be honest, but decades on Wall Street have also toughened him. The dying dog is introduced to show in a fleeting moment his soft inner core. In the last scene of the film, after Rogers has sold out his clients, we see him burying his dead dog in his ex-wife’s yard (too many hours spent at the office?). His integrity has died. This conceit did not work for me and was probably not the best possible way to end the film.
In my readings of Hollywood films, I tend to implicitly or explicitly rely on the auteur theory. Wiki gives us a good enough account of that theory here:
In film criticism, auteur theory holds that a director’s film reflects the director’s personal creative vision, as if [the director is] the primary “auteur” (the French word for “author”). In spite of—and sometimes even because the production of the film is part of an industrial process, the auteur’s creative voice is distinct enough to shine through all kinds of studio interference and through the collective process.
In law, the film is treated as a work of art, and the auteur, as the creator of the film, is the original copyright holder. Under European Union law, the film director is considered the author or one of the authors of a film, largely as a result of the influence of auteur theory
To unpack the propaganda message of Margin Call, however, I cannot rely upon this theory because writer and director J.C. Chandor appears not to be Jewish. If it were Joel Schumacher or Oliver Stone, I’d have an obvious answer. And of course if Steven Spielberg were involved at any level, it would be a no-brainer. But Chandor created this movie, so we need to consider the casting and visual implications of the film in another way.
Frankly, I think this is easy. Anyone wishing to succeed in Hollywood learns about the reigning assumptions and taboos, and honors them, particularly if they’re a young outsider like Chandor. Those who violate the norms get punished (Marlon Brando, but especially Mel Gibson, come to mind). And the hegemonic power that controls Hollywood — that is Hollywood — is Jewish. Neal Gabler demonstrated this in his book An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood, and Joel Stein said so in the LATimes (“How Jewish is Hollywood?”). I too made it beyond argument in my Occidental Quarterly essay “Understanding Hollywood Part I: Hollywood’s Jewish Identity,” where I concluded that “Hollywood is indeed run by Jews.”
Just as few films ever show the vast power held by Hollywood Jews, few films ever show the vaster power held by Jews on Wall Street (and, I may add, in Washington). Chandor could have made a film that explicitly reflected the Jewish contingent at Lehman Bros., but you can be sure that if he had, it never would have been released. And he would be looking for another line of work.
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The typical Amerikwan sees Hollywood as truth and Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will as “propaganda”…even though ToTW has not one single false or scripted scene in it, and pretty much everything Hollywood makes, and has made, is a lie.
Hollywood is simply filled with cheap whores that were working a job as a waiter or waitress,the year before,etc. And those were the ones that actually worked. The other bums sold themselves out, men and woman, or begged for food or went through the supermarket trash cans. It’s an old story. But…….but….in the U.S. A STAR IS A STAR, and once a star sure don’t relish going back to that former life. So they will do whatever their masters tell them to do,etc. Cheap sluts, really, character wise.
@fender: And yet, fender, it is to me at least, MINDBOGGLING, how BRAINWASHED, not only Americans, but all human beings are that habitually look to Hollywood, as a model for how we should live, work, and especially THINK. I know whwat I’m saying here sounds so totally obvious, but that’s the point. Most human beings live lives that are so consciously, but more important, unconsciously, controled by a model of reality created for them by entities like Hollywood, etc. that they aren’t the slightest bit aware of it. They can’t concieve of what an unauthentic exsistence, they actually live.
It’s stunning how overtly anti-WASP/anti-White Jewish attitudes pass uncommented on in the mainstream. As usual, the left, not the right, leads the way in recognizing Jewish power. Leftists in Canada have even suggested “Holocaust education” is used as a way to obscure Jewish/Zionist power.
Typically, Jews are “Jewish” when they do something positive, or are somehow “oppressed,” but magically turn to “whites” when exercizing power or doing something negative. “White privilege” is an academic trope, but “Jewish privilege” is a controversial topic.
The recent Wall Street bailouts had the press openly discussing “winners” like Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon and even mentioning their philantropy went mostly to “Jewish charities” just in case anyone didn’t get the hint. Yet Jewish labor activists like Andy Stern of SEIU focused laser-like on the non-Jewish banker Ken Lewis of Bank of America. (BofA located in North Carolina, not the Jewish center of power New York City.)
I believe the entire Republican party has only one Jewish Senator, Eric Cantor of Virginia, and they made him leader. The leadership of the GOP and the conservative movement generally has circled the wagons to protect Wall Street criminals, and neo-cons lamblasted the Occupy Wall Street protests as “anti-semitic” even though they were started by Jewish leftists and even staged official Jewish religious ceremonies (see “Occupy Judaism.”)
The question is, do the WASP elites, or what’s left of them, simply have no problem with their second class status as shabbos goyim for Jews?
There’s also the little discussion backstory of the bailouts and the Euro crisis. The Euro and the ECB represent the only real competition to the USA-UK heavily Jewish financial elite, and much of the toxic (read: fraudulent) derivatives were sold to European banks.
As we see, when the story is told, through Hollywood movies, the Jewish criminals will be turned into WASPs, just like in Amistad the Jewish slave-traders were turned into Christians, and the Jewish organized crime of the post-war era was buried under a sea of Italian mafia movies.
Media and Money are the keys to Jewish power in the US.
Anyway great article, and thanks for pointing out that piece about the film Pleasantville.
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Since the article mentions Jack Abramoff, it’s quite amazing that the most interesting fact about him was simply not commented on directly, but if you could read between the lines in the coverage of his rise and fall, it’s pretty obvious what he was. Abramoff’s partner Adam Kidan fled to Israel at the height of the scandal of course.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=jack_abramoff
P.S. My view of Hollywood might be prejudiced by the fact that I am an affirmed Platonist, in my view of reality. To me, art is twice removed from reality. It’s not that I don’t understand arts value and beauty, it’s just that I’m leary of becoming wrapped up in its many delightfull but ultimately incomprehensible implications. The simple is NOT simple, is a constant recurring theme in life, that becomes obvious, the older we get.
Yes, a simple story with actors can have enormous implications.
One can simply look at the graphic promoting the movie and see these mind-rotters at work on our young people. Here’s a tableau of a bunch of “white folks.” Beneath them are a bunch of arrows pointing downward into oblivion.
@Bobby:
But art can be inspiring in the hands of the right people– think of the nude sculptures of classical Greece and how they inspired the people to engage in sports and stay in good physical condition,. Or think of Homer’s Iliad and how it inspired the youth to be competitive, courageous, and masculine. Art is not the problem, artists are.
@Richard Pierce: The WASP elites are dead. The financialization of the economy in the 1980s was the consolidation of Jewish power in America.
The modern “Judaic-Christianity” was invention of the 80s conservatives who recognised Jews as the true American elite even if they don’t say it ou loud. Richard Nixon and rev. Billy Graham saw the problem in 70s but was too late.
Actually, they have owned us since 1913. This movie stinks, but EVERYBODY knows the truth about the Wall St. scum. Matt Taibbi, Nomi Prins, Max Keiser, “Inside Job,” etc., reveal that the dirtbags who cheated people worldwide were JEWS. The JEWS sold toxic paper to pension funds, the JEWS sold toxic paper to small towns in Italy, the JEWS sold bad paper to teachers and firefighters and police. The JEW damn near brought down all of Europe because of all the bad paper. That’s why the Fed had to bail out ENTIRE COUNTRIES, because otherwise there would have been Holocaust II.
So, don’t worry about the whitewash in the film. The entire world knows who runs the financial system, and who profits most from the monopoly.
Watched Robert Redford’s Quiz Show (filmed in 1990s) the other night. They made the film to be a gentile vs jewish, sympathizing with those poor jews. Oh, how they were abused in 1950′s America. Thankfully with internet now, one can check on the identities of actual people portrayed in film. As it turns out it was the gentiles contestants (and jews) that were hoodwinked by….jews. They were Freedman, Dan Enright (really Ehrenreich), and Jack Barry (really Barasch). How disgusting.
Nicely done, Mr. Connelly. Throughout the Diaspora, subterfuge was the M.O. used. Why we’d hardly know the Jews ran the show, would we? Their financial empires spring up through the centuries; right now they’re sharpening up on their chop sticks. Fortunately we will be discarded…ok, it will be painful, but then we will be rid of them…maybe.
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For those interested in a comprehensive history of banking in the United States and, in particular, the nefarious Federal Reserve System, I recommend Murray Rothbard. Although he doesn’t dwell on the Jewish question as such (Jewish himself, though hardly a favoured son of the Tribe), it’s clear what ethnicity the players are. In the second work above, Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy, the commercial affinities between the House of Morgan and the House of Rothschild is touched on several times.
Fractional-reserve banking is an abuse of property titles, central banking changes localized crises into systemic crises. Until people understand the mechanism of fractional-reserve banking and demand a return to sound, specie-based money (not able to be conjured up at a key-stroke), there is going to be constant enrichment of Wall St. and its feeder-banks at the expense of all others.
I think James Whistler makes a good point when he says that “everybody knows” Wall Street is run by Jews, just like “everybody knows” Hollywood is run by Jews. “Everybody knows” that Bernie Madoff was a Jew. Zero Hedge is a hugely popular forum for the financial industry, and discussions of Jewish fraud is open; attempts to silence discussion of Jews by the usual hand-wringing has not been successful. “Everybody knows” Goldman Sachs is a Jewish company.
The problem seems to be that there is no organized opposition to Jewish power. “White” is far too broad a category, and our traditional religion of Christianity is simply too universalist to serve as a counter “evolutionary strategy” (not to mention how Jewish it is.) Of the Forbes 500 richest Americans, at least 60% or more are White, but the only example I can remember of any of them working together, sans Jews, would be Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, and that was all personal, and even anti-White in the larger sense.
The implicity-near-explicitly White Republican party eagerly falls to their knees fawning over Jewish power and serves only to tamp down any anti-Jewish sentiment among the conservative rank-and-file, like their predecessors in the John Birch Society.
A while back TOO talked a lot about Glenn Beck, who was hugely popular and went right up to the line discussing Jewish power – even going so far as to resurrect the notorious Cleon Skousen – but his fan base just seemed to be too dense to take the hint. The lumpn-fundies of the Evangelical right basically worship Jews and Israel, and the patriotard right wingers idolize the IDF and want nothing more than to join them in a world wide counter-jihad against Israel’s enemies.
So it’s not even a lack of awareness, it’s more like Stockholm Syndrome. It’s as if Whites have fallen in love with a Jewess, and want nothing more than to gain her favor, even if it requires giving up their last shred of dignity.
OT: Gibson’s Get the Gringo didn’t get the cinema roll-out. For purely commercial reasons, naturally.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2012/04/mel-gibson-get-the-gringo.html
@Richard Pierce: Attacking fractional-reserve banking, fount of Wall St. and commercial banking wealth is more effective than going after Jews per se, especially as there are plenty of Gentiles, too, gorging at the small end of the same trough.
It’s clear that some actors and actresses have tried to break free from Hollywood’s Jewish and politically correct hegemony. I note also that Britain’s media is now in many ways worse.
Whites will need to develop a way of funding high quality productions and the lucrative careers of actors, actresses and scriptwriters. These pro-White celebreties will not be able to work and earn within the Hollywood system again nor will they have access to income from corporate sponsorship (until we develop our own ‘marketing muscle’, corporations wish to sell to White will need to acknowledge that unacceptable portrayals of White stereotypes in diverse environments will lead to implicit product boycott )
For Whites our ‘religion’ will have to become our race. We will need to donate consistently.
Our Eurocentric entertainment and edutainment need not be propaganda. It must in the first instance be entertaining and if a documentary clear and honest. It will be subversive of Jewish aims for a final solution to their White problem* ethno-marxist hegemony merely by the act of telling the truth and being light hearted with no anti-White messages. EG a story about the GFC will simply portray the neocons and financial tribe accurately and in proportion to their numbers.
If every White contributed 1% of their income to the White cause imagine the effect, the power.
@Trenchant
No Trenchant, I have to disagree. It’s not fractional-reserve banking, per se, that’s the problem. The problem is Jewish power. If attacking fractional reserve banking helps to decrease Jewish power, that’s a good side effect, but it’s the side effect.
Ayn Rand libertarianism and gold standard hard money fetishism is just another way to take our eyes off the prize. Keynesianism works; a Keynesianism system based on White Nationalism would be the best of all realistic economic systems.
A gold standard means the holders of gold – central banks, Jews, Indians, and increasingly Chinese – get all the power. What good would that do us?
Henry George single-taxism, credit unions, and seigniorage are better strategies than anything the Randroids are offering. But I’m fine with ending the Fed as a short term immediate strategy.
It’s not the form-of-government that matters, it’s the who-runs-the-government that matters. There is no “system” that will fix our problems. Any system run by us, for us, will work just fine.
@Bear
Agreed, but distribution is the final trick to all that. We really just need a pro-White FOX, it really would take just one channel. Now I understand why they fought so hard to keep Ted Turner from buying a broadcast station – even though he was completely liberal, he wasn’t “of the tribe” therefore couldn’t be trusted.
I hear the Chinese are buying up all the cinemas now, but who goes to the cinema anymore?
@Richard Pierce: “A gold standard means the holders of gold – central banks, Jews, Indians, and increasingly Chinese – get all the power.”
Well of course money-holders have power. But in the same way that car-salesman and auto-workers don’t own all cars, money-producers don’t get to own all their product.
And no, I very much dislike Rand and her acolytes. I remind you that the Founding Fathers were also very chary of paper-money, to them I am more favourably disposed than Rosenbaum.
We’ll celebrate, both, the ending of the Fed.
@James Whistler: James, I really, really wish you were right about “EVERYBODY” knowing. But over the last thirty years I’ve talked to people from all over the world and unbelievably almost NOBODY knows about this. I used to think that most of them were afraid to mention it, but once we’d had a few drinks together, we’d at least be able to have a “wink-wink” conversation about these things. But never.
I’m talking all kinds of relatives, friends, people I meet riding bikes, and, because I’m in academia, people with graduate degrees. Not a clue.
I realize there are SOME people somewhere who understand, which is why we have writers and readers for TOQ, TOO, etc. But I just don’t see where even a tiny fraction of the people know . . . or worse, care. That’s what scares me.
I hope you and Richard Pierce are right and that eventually there will some kind of explicit discussion leading to . . . well, I don’t know.
But I’m not holding my breath. As it is, even pro-White sites like VDARE would NEVER publish my stuff. And it seems that even some VDARE writers are missing this story, too.
Anyway, I’ll keep plugging away.
The vitally-important factors here are (1) understanding how the money system works, (2) quantifying it. Both part are essential. And (3) publicizing it.
How much paper does the Fed get in interest? How much do Jews get from national debts, including debts from armies and weaponry? How much do they get through monopolizing credit? Even approximate answers would be valuable. Is there more money in taking over oil, or in forcing paper money under Jewish control onto foreign countries? What’s the cost of all the propaganda and ‘think-tanks’ — These are the sorts of quantitative matters which are really essential to understand. I’ve had quite a few arguments with people talking about fractional reserves, control of credit to Africa, the advantage of inflation to paper money issuers, the wealth of the Rothschilds etc etc etc and they simply would not begin to estimate these things. After all, if interest is .001%, it’s a lot less important than 100%; numbers [pun intended] count. The first part of any strategy must be to know the enemy. I hope some nationalistic – or indeed just plain honest – statisticians/ economists can produce understandable figures and understandable slogans to drive the messages home.
@Diablo: Yes, “Quiz Show” is among the leaders in disinformation. From start to finish, it’s full of lies and misrepresentations. I guess Robert Redford has long had to swallow any integrity he might have had to prosper in Hollywood.
Another classic misleading film is “The Graduate.” Read properly, it is a blantantly anti-White Christian film where the Jew cuckolds the WASP and gets his daughter, too. The cross-swinging scene at the end should have alerted everyone . . . but it didn’t.
And talking about The Matrix, here’s what got Paul Craig Robert tagged as a pariah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2_ZZ3gM9ig
Erratum: Paul Craig Roberts.
Mel Gibson reportedly raked in upwards of $400-million for the Passion.
So in the end it was Team Yitzhak that wound up holding (Mel’s) dick in their hands.
You have to know Hollywood to appreciate these people will gladly drop their own mother off @ the gates of Auschwitz provided they too can enjoy such windfall from a single production.
>>>Fractional-reserve banking is an abuse of property titles, central banking changes localized crises into systemic crises. Until people understand the mechanism of fractional-reserve banking and demand a return to sound, specie-based money>>> (Trenchant)
This does not go far enough. Government must be removed from money.
The problem, before fractional reserve, is legal tender laws which force the use of a certain paper (which may be governmental or private). There must be NO banking laws of any kind, except the usual laws against fraud. Money is whatever the buyer and seller agree it to be.
The government worship in this movement amounts to illiteracy. A. J. Nock pointed out (Our Enemy the State) “all governments were established for only one reason- economic exploitation.” All governments are run by special interests. 99% of our problems are traceable to some kind of statism.
Our problems involve two monopolies- information, and money. Destroying these monopolies is job number one. The money monopoly is from the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and other banking laws. The FCC (Goldenson, Sarnoff, and Paley) is of government. The schools are government. Some media may seem to be free, but is under control of the money monopoly.
There was a Japanese horror movie is the sixties Destroy all Monsters.
We need one called Destroy all monopolies. They all were established “to serve the public”, and all ended up screwing the public, which was the goal all along.
@TabuLa Raza: Yes, you’re right. Legal tender law should go, too.
@Trenchant:
Actually, you’re right on all points, not just on legal tender provisions.
@TabuLa Raza:You’re right on all the points is what I was trying to say.
Stop right there! Truly great actors are British?
NO! It’s because the Truly Great American Actors can’t get an agent cuz the agents are too busy representing the the Jewish/connected/liberal kids in the class. The barriers to entry are too high for a talented Gentile in L.A. You gotta marry a black woman or be gay or something or both.
Thank you. Continue on.
The average American has enormous difficulties differentiating between movie/TV fiction and real life. US is a country of overworked loners who live in sterile suburbs where any sense of community has been eradicated. People don’t have a clue about who their neighbors are, but know everything the latest episode of “Glee” and the characters inhabiting this TV series. PC Roberts is right when he states that we live in a Matrix-like virtual reality. A matrix controlled by Jews. People in other countries are not so docile and zombie-like… I recently visited Eastern Europe and even the half-educated taxi driver was well versed in the Jewish question and will discuss it freely. In the US people are terrified to discuss politics in general and Jews in particular. When they do, they turn conspirationally around their shoulders the way people under Communist rule did when telling a political joke.
Re: Hollywood’s anti-Christian bias. I saw the intro to a TV show on “ABC Family” tonight and noticed with surprise that it appeared to be portraying Christians in a non-snarky, non-denigrating manner. It turned out that the story was about a Christian family who adopted a black football player. Christ almighty.
That’s a wonderful insight!
Edmund Connelly is right (‘The Graduate’) – it didn’t occur to me.
Can I add a bit to my comment on try to get a qunatified overview of the world. Whenever there’s an approach to discussing Jews, up pops someone saying the Muslim world is swimming in cash and buying up and propagandising everything; then there’s a Catholic variant, attributing secret power to the Vatican; and a monarchical variant; and of course there’s China; and you’ll also hear comments – “Yaaawn, it’s all the Joos” etc., intended to suggest Jewish power is over-rated. The truth is difficult to establish – legal ownerships and their transfers are invisible, the differences between short and long-term policies are invisible, changes in alliances are invisible. We have to identify the most important targets and aim at them.
They control the message. They own and run all the media and control the money supply. It’s kind of crazy when you realize that such a small group of people control all of the rest of us. And it’s true, while people have a vague idea that Wall St. thievery is part of Jewish expertise, most people would never dare speak unkindly toward the Jews, for fear of being labeled a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. You have to give them credit for the brilliance of the matrix. The holocaust industry insures that they are the world’s greatest victims of all time, which gives them saint like holy status. I forgot to mention Ellen Brown’s excellent book “The Web Of Debt” and also “The Creature From Jekyl Island” by Griffin. I think Griffin’s segment on Glenn Beck was the last straw for the tribe, as he pulls no punches.
But in the end, the masses are deathly afraid of being compared to the demonized Nazis. Whites are totally brainwashed. And to make matters even worse, my Christian friends tell me that I should love unconditionally and forgive as well! And that I shouldn’t “blame” or single out any groups for blame. PC has ruined the entire thought process of the normal American; their minds are fenced in. I think that they are in denial and have vague misgivings that there are forces working against them, but they fear the truth and what it means to face the truth. I went through an explanation of Jewish influence for an old childhood friend who then said, “Well…even if it’s true, what can you do about it?”
It’s a very good point; what do we do about it?
I hate to tell some of the folks here, but, all banking since the beginning of banking, has been fractional reserve banking. No bank has ever had 100% deposits to cover its loans.
Another thing to consider, if the Federal Reserve were abolished there is a good chance that banking in the US would be again concentrated in New York City. One of the main reasons the Federal Reserve was founded was to give regional banks a chance to compete with New York. So you might just be handing the Jews what they already don’t control.
As far as the Lehman’s go, they have to know what happened on the inside at their former property Lehman Brother’s. The Manhattan district attorney is a Lehman isn’t he? A huge case of “Mesirah” —where Jews are not prosecuting Jews either at Lehman Brothers or on Wall Street in general.
Here’s a little feel good piece about the Lehman’s and their modern day descendents in the Jewish Forward. Notice how ethnic the great grandparents look compared to those living today.
http://forward.com/articles/14237/the-lehmans-they-ve-moved-on-sad-a-little-/
Lehman(n) is a very common German name. The Jews are ruining the name not only for themselves, but, for the far more numerous gentile Lehman(n)’s too.
Henry Lehman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lehman
‘PC Roberts is right when he states that we live in a Matrix-like virtual reality. A matrix controlled by Jews.’
Would just like to point out that it was the great Michael Hoffman II who really started comparing contemporary reality to the Matrix. He is right about the Jews as well.
@Richard Pierce: “I hear the Chinese are buying up all the cinemas now, but who goes to the cinema anymore? ”
Excellent observation, Brother Pierce. When I read your comment, I tried to remember the last time I had gone to a theater to watch a movie. I think it was in 2010, when I went to see the Mel Gibson movie ‘Edge of Darkness’. Aside from that one movie, I don’t think I’ve sat in a theater and watched more than 5 movies total in well over 10 years.
It is peculiar, as Ed Connelly stated – how out of touch with reality so many millions of White Americans are these days. Perhaps I’m a little more observant and awake than most, but I can distinctly recall the massive shift that occurred in Hollywood – starting around the time der Slickmeister was spray painting the walls of the oval office with his body fluids. Almost overnight, the top 10 White Male action stars careers seemed to evaporate before our very eyes and the jews started casting militant and obnoxious blacks in the leading roles, often pairing them up with pretty white females – who would, of course, decide to burn a little coal during the course of the movie script – so as to rub the hated White males face in the defilement of his women and to brainwash young white females into thinking that it was cool and fashionable for them to engage in race genocide by race mixing with blacks or other non-whites.
As I said, I noticed this shift as soon as it was happening – and that’s when I stopped wasting my money on movie theaters. I will not help subsidize the defilement and genocide of my own race.
Incidentally, regarding Mel Gibson and his ‘Lethal Weapon’ series. Recently, I’ve seen some of the sequels again – after many years have passed. I noticed that the first Lethal Weapon movie had a very serious, almost dark and somber theme or tone to it. Intense. The Gibson character was obviously a man who was troubled by his past – that, I thought, was what made the movie a great flick. The sequels were, for some reason – turned into slap-stick comedy routines and the intensity of the first one was replaced with tons of special effects and stupid, endless car chases. After viewing a few of the sequels again, I find myself wondering if the jews were worried that the intensity and deadly serious aspects of the Gibson character in the original movie might be a little risky for them to expound upon, as it might encourage a few million white males to decide to drop their ‘frat house’ oriented outlook on life and decide its time to get deadly serious in the area of fighting their #1 enemy?
The jews worst nightmare is for White males to grow back their testicles and decide to take their nation back. So, I think its not accidental that Hollywood has drastically reduced the number of ‘strong, no-nonsense, tough and determined’ White male role models in the movies they make these days. Instead, white males are shown as geeks, nerds, and overweight and out of shape tubs of potato-chip and soda-pop consuming lard. Which is pretty much a description of most of the White males I see around my town who’re in the 15-30 year age range.
Putting aside for a moment the disgusting and disappointing beyond belief – political career of Arnold Schwarzeneger while Governator of Mexifornia – the thought has crossed my mind that perhaps the jews arranged for him to get into politics as a means of removing one of the last White male action stars? Haven’t I read something somewhere about a Communist invented demoralization tactic whereby the ‘heroes’ of a people who they wish to conquer are systematically demeaned, belittled, criticized and eventually destroyed or otherwise discredited – which tends to deflate the pride and self-confidence of the group targeted for destruction, rendering them rootless and without any role models?
@TabuLa Raza: I’m not an economic historian, but weren’t Jews able to do the same thing to currencies under the gold standard that fractional reserve banking allows them to do by cornering the gold market? Isn’t that what the Rothschilds did repeatedly (e.g., during the Napoleonic wars) to European countries? I.e., they could make the values of currencies fluctuate at their will and force governments to follow their orders.
Eliminating fractional reserve banking is no magic bullet.
@Bobby
This is what my blog is all about. I call Hollywood mind control “soft control” and “Mindweaponization is Resistance to Soft Control.”
If we can successfully propagate a lifestyle that is systematically resistant to soft control, the way bacteria like Staphylococcus Aureus evolves resistance to methicillin (MRSA), then we can beat the Soft Control.
Go to this link and watch the MRSA video:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/080401_mrsa
my blog is mindweaponsinragnarok.wordpress.com
@Richard Pierce:
It is true that in a more theoretical way it is not what is taken for money that counts, but rather who controls the money supply and what they do with it. A sound money policy could be completely fiat, as long as the quantity is maintained at a fixed supply relative to growth.
Gold is often thought of as a standard, since the quantity remains relatively stable. Also, a fixed money supply makes it difficult for government to borrow in order to finance non-productive projects.
In fact, it would be better for government to be supported by tariffs, fees and taxes, but no borrowing at all. Of course, this would limit the size of government, and could never happen because of it.
Hoarding gold makes no sense within the context of a sound economy. That is because it would be a non-productive asset, and would hence not be of much benefit to the owner. And in any case, the entire point of gold (or other commodity) as an economic unit is for it to be used as a medium of exchange.
Gold (or another commodity pegged to currency) is said to inhibit irrational spending, since a country engaged in malinvestment and consumption would soon have its gold leave. On the other hand, a country with rational investment and real economic growth would see an influx of the metal.
What has happened in the West is that we have encouraged consumption based on credit, for goods that are essentially ephemeral. Also, a fiscal policy directed to support a massive non-productive welfare state, and foreign wars (this includes maintenance of the empire, foreign aid, etc).
Whether the unit of exchange is gold, or another medium, what is needed is both a sound monetary and fiscal policy. At this point, however, the system is so broken that only collapse could possibly fix it. On the other hand, if people are willing to live in Third World conditions, the system could go on for a very long time. Since most people seem to just enjoy drinking beer and watching television, who can say how long it will last?
One point: it will do no good to rid the banks of Jewish influence, if Whites keep to the present system.
@C:
Main Rule : White Christians are “bad”.
Exception : They are “good” when they are working on their own (racial) destruction (such as by adopting Blacks), which is in fact an confirmation of the Main Rule.
The old WASP structure may be dead but this might be a blessing in disguise. The old WASP structure was contained within the Corporation UNITED STATES system erected in 1871. This is when the elite Jews through the City of London Corp and Vatican City corp really gained power over America.
Make no mistake through, it is nesseasry for a tree to die for new tree life to begin. Let the abomination of “Judaic Christianity” die- it deserves to because like the Corporation system, it is based upon a lie.
There will be a mass awakening in America centered on our true ethnic, cultural and Christian religious identity and this birth will begin the end to the Judaic planetary dominion plot.
So chin up folks. It’s always darkest before the dawn….
There has been some effort here to identify a primary time period when Hollywood embraced the anti-white narrative. Resisting Defamation thinks the campaign of defamation began while World War II was being fought, with the leading two films marketed in 1947: “Gentleman’s Agreement” and “Crossfire.”
These were the first vicious thank-you notes to the diverse white American taxpayers for supporting the war effort and to all returning Euro-American soldiers as evil creatures.
http://www.resistingdefamation.org/sub/caric9.htm
Scroll to final item on that page.
@Richard Pierce: You have made some very incisive and relevant comments here on TOO. Your comment on 5/27/12, @ 11:22pm was exceptionally astute and commendable.
@Edmund Connelly: Keep ‘plugging away’ Edmund, you work is invaluable. Furthermore, why not publish your findings in book form?
Every word, every article and every book is improtant in this life and death struggle we are in.
@Luke: Right on, Luke, my sentiments as well.
@Luke
Ahh-nold was put into the governor’s mansion for one reason and one reason only – to force California to settle with Enron and other Texas energy companies for pennies on the dollar after the mass theft. The Davis recall was part of the same operation. As wikipedia puts it:
But I doubt that a movie like Sudden Impact (Dirty Harry 3) could be made today, with a white cop shooting a gang of blacks holding white hostages. I noticed the change in the 1990s too, mostly from the TV commercials. All of a sudden “globalism” was all the rage, and Africans the spiritual center of it. Remember those AT&T commercials?
@Tom
The regional Federal Reserve banks are window dressing at best and that’s openly acknowledged. There’s even been a move to consolidate and remove even the window dressing, after all, St Louis/Minnesota/Kansas City have three banks between them despite the fact they haven’t been economically significant since the early 20th century. The only regional Fed that is even noticed is the one in Dallas, and only because it has played the “conservative” psuedo-Austrian loyal opposition to the New York Keynesian printaholics.
If anything, shutting down the regional Feds might make the situation a bit more obvious to everyone. Ending the Fed and (to the horror of the Randroids) having Treasury print money directly into the economy would be a much more open and honest system. The typical objection is that it would cause inflation, but it’s not as if the Fed has ever prevented inflation anyway.
Even focusing on the Fed, per se, is a bit off. It’s the banks that own the Fed system that’s the issue. The Fed is there to serve the large banks, to institutionalize their psuedo-monopoly and prevent competition from alternate financial institutions like credit unions.
@Edmund Connelly
When I suggest “everybody knows” I refer to the people who know what Wall Street is and have a basic grasp of finance. Admittedly, that’s a tiny minority. I don’t believe the average Joe under the street knows much of anything beside what time his favorite tee-vee show comes on. Everyone who writes on VDare, for instance, is fully aware of the Jewish problem, but choose not to mention it openly, using the Jared Taylor strategy. Like democracy, it probably won’t work.
The NY Fed is the only bank that counts, the only one with influence. And yes, it isn’t fractional reserve banking that’s the problem so much as who controls it. The banks that own the Fed own the WORLD. Stunning that they could actually get Congress to pass such a system. You have to give them credit, they have balls. Once they control the money, money buys influence, and the run everything in sight. “The Israel Lobby” is a good read for the uninitiated, since the book details the process by which they buy up leaders. Truly, the Jews are our misfortune.
@James Whistler:
Their fortune is our misfortune.
One of the most tell-all movies about Jewish power rise through the 1900′s
(from street-hoods to senators/wasp class) was a film called ‘Once upon a time in America’ directed by the great Sergio Leone and funnily enough produced by Arnon Milchan (Holly-mossad). I suspect he was hoping it would romanticize the Jewish mob like Godfather did for Italians but instead, it showed it in all its immorality including James Woods kill all his life-long friends for no reason other than to amass power/wealth.
Strangely enough, the ‘producers’ decided to butcher the film on release, so critics trashed it and it tanked. Otherwise, the (almost) 4 hour director’s cut is a masterpiece and probably would’ve opened up alot more peoples eyes.
@Tyron Parsons:
Everything you state: AGREED
@C:
TV news portrayals of Christianity are almost always positive. I really don’t know what you guys are talking about with the idea that the mass media is “anti-Christian”. Compare how the mass media treats “Nazis” if you want to see how the jews would be treating Christianity if they wanted to get rid of it.
Watching Emmy winning Hill Street Blues from the early 80′s will make your jaws drop, with all the minority criminals. Some PC crept in, but all in all, they say some jaw dropping lines. Now its all White criminals on TV. The Cold War ending destroyed conservatism.
My God, have you seen “The Help?”
Hideous evil whites and wise noble blacks. An awful hateful anti-white movie.
@Random: You’re out of your mind.
The Catholic Church receives ONLY negative attention. The Orthodox Church is ignored. And the media fixates on eccentric Protestants like Hagee or maniacs like Phelps.
@Tyron Parsons:
I’d like to know how the Vatican is controlling the USA. The Vatican can’t even control Cardinal Mahony. If you are going to regurgitate internet conspiracies at least make them entertaining. Personally, I love the one about the new Archbishop of Los Angeles (Mahony’s successor) being an Opus Dei priest as in Benedict XVI’s revenge on Hollywood for “The Da Vinci Code”. This website is not about conspiracy. It’s about academics offering ‘observable’ behaviours in a quasi scientific format.
@Athanasius:
There have been some negative pieces on the Catholic sex abuse scandals, I’ll give you that. I guess they could have covered that up entirely. In general though, the mass media is very pro-Christian, and certainly the jews do not permit any serious criticisms of the religion they created for us to be aired on television.
Not even Iceland is safe from this tribe.
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The Israeli Role in the Plundering of Iceland
Part Two
THE HALLMARKS OF AN ISRAELI OPERATION
Shortly before the catastrophic collapse of Iceland’s three major banks in the fall of 2008, the island nation was ranked as one of the wealthiest and most productive nations in the world. The financial damage caused by the plundering of Iceland’s banks is the worst suffered by any country in economic history relative to the size of its economy.
When the privatized banks of Kaupthing, Glitnir, and Landsbanki collapsed in October 2008 they had reportedly amassed debts equivalent to 12 times Iceland’s gross domestic product. The looting of the Nordic nation’s banks did not happen by accident, but was done through a conspiracy that has the distinct hallmarks of an Israeli intelligence operation. Recognizing these hallmarks is essential to solving the crime and preventing it from occurring to other nations.
When the Icelandic banks were privatized in 2002-2003, through “a series of insider dealings,” the stage was set for massive amounts of debt to be “uploaded” to the newly-deregulated banks through the acquisition of foreign companies that were net debtors. When they finally collapsed under a mountain of debt, the three major Icelandic banks reportedly held an estimated foreign debt of nearly $100 billion. For a nation the size of Kentucky, with a population of a small U.S. city (about 320,000 like Aurora, Colorado), the banks’ debt translates to more than $200,000 per resident.
The assets of Icelandic pension funds, a pool of wealth that current U.S. budget czar Peter Orszag studied before the collapse, were expected to shrink by as much as 25 percent. Orszag’s involvement in the Icelandic operation is suspicious in light of his previous work in Russia during the period when it was being plundered by Jewish robber barons following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
So, how were the hardy Vikings of Iceland plundered? The Icelandic heist was carried out in the same way as the plundering of the U.S. Treasury in 2008-2009, through an unregulated “economic bubble” scheme very much like a Bernard Madoff investment fund. How the scheme operates is fairly simple. An entity, in this case a private bank, is puffed up to look like it is doing amazingly well. Like Madoff’s funds, the appearance of success brings in new investors while keeping the image – and the operation – up and going. The image of wealth and prosperity is, however, only a false front that is used to bring more money into the operation.
In reality, the criminals like Madoff running the operation are sucking every last penny they can out of the operation – in this case giving huge unsecured loans to scoundrels like Robert Tchenguiz – “Kaupthing’s biggest client as well as director of its largest shareholder.” The Tchenguiz formula for property deals is like Larry Silverstein’s: borrow heavily to buy the property, and then raise the rent to pay off the loan. (Silverstein, who obtained control of the Twin Towers at the end of July 2001, raised tenants’ rents by 40 percent.) Tchenguiz reportedly borrowed more than 1.7 billion Euros (more than $2 billion) from Kaupthing to finance his private investments. But how can a single individual, a foreign national, borrow some $2.5 billion from an Icelandic bank in unsecured loans, causing it to collapse? Tchenguiz, a shameless fraudster, is now trying to sue the Icelandic banks.
The Robert Tchenguiz operation, named Rotch, “is a complex web of about 600 different companies, with Vin-Rotch Properties, the ultimate holding group, based in Panama.” Robert and his brother Vincent are directors of more than 300 companies each. The Tchenguiz family was reportedly “the second biggest landlord in Britain” in 2003. How can a playboy who spends much of his time carousing on yachts off St. Tropez run a “complex web of about 600 companies”? He can’t, and he doesn’t.
“At the top of the chain is Rotch Property Group, based in Mayfair,” the Telegraph reported in May 2003. “It’s biggest shareholder is a Panamanian company called Vin-Rotch Properties and the ultimate controlling party is the Tchenguiz Family Trust,” which is known to be run by his father, Victor Tchenguiz in Israel.
While it may look like a business about property, in fact, it is not, the Sunday Times reported in a 2002 interview with Robert Tchenguiz: “It is a business about debt and the efficient recycling of debt through complex capital structures.”
“From a structural point of view,” Robert said, “Rotch is a family business and ultimately owned by our family. The way it’s owned – Panama – I don’t know if that’s of interest to your readers, that’s not necessarily something I want to tell them.”
“The accounts of Rotch are impenetrable,” the Times noted, and the family business is “a web of unfathomable companies with tentacles reaching deep.” The Tchenguiz operation is actually an Israeli octopus run by Victor and a team in Israel. The whole operation is based on swapping debt, which is loaded onto a chosen victim (like Kaupthing) – which is then shoved off a cliff. Tchenguiz’s brother Vincent was quoted in 2005 as saying: “About three-quarters of our business is debt…but it has come down considerably – about 20 percent [i.e. from 95 percent] – over the years. It’s about £3 billion at the moment.”
When the puffed-up operation collapses, the outrageous debts are simply passed on to the state, the central bank, and the people. Kaupthing “failed to recoup a total of £1.47 billion (about $2.5 billion) – equivalent to 45 percent of deposits – advanced to Tchenguiz’s operations.” Because the Tchenguiz family (of London and Israel) played such a big role in the plundering of Iceland, I call it Operation Tchenguiz (as in Genghis Khan).
OPERATION TCHENGUIZ
Remarkably, Genghis Khan, the Mongol conqueror of Asia known for his use of terror (1162-1227), crops up with two of the main characters in this sordid saga. Dorrit Moussaieff, the First Lady of Iceland is an Israeli Jew from a Bukharan (Persian) family of jewellers, who is said to have made the golden robes of Genghis Khan. Victor Tchenguiz, the father of Robert Tchenguiz, the biggest borrower from the largest Icelandic bank to collapse, is an Iraqi-Persian Jew who was the court jeweller and head of the mint under the Shah of Iran. Oddly, Victor changed his family name from Kedourie Molayem to Tchenguiz while he lived in Iran (in honor of Genghis Khan) and who now lives in Israel.
While these family connections with Genghis Khan and Israel are interesting, they do not prove that the robbing of Iceland was an Israeli operation. In order to prove that this was an Israeli intelligence operation we need to show high-level Israeli connections occurring at key points in the operation. When we can see that key individuals in the Icelandic saga are connected to Israeli intelligence, we can say that we have evidence of an Israeli conspiracy. If this is the case, it certainly needs to be taken into consideration by those who are working to solve the crime and recover the looted wealth of Iceland and other European nations affected by the plundering of Iceland’s banks.
As Eva Joly, the Norwegian-French investigator who was hired by Iceland’s state prosecutor said: “The priority is tracing any flow of assets from the banks and getting them back.”
RECOGNIZING ISRAELI CRIMINAL GANGS
It was back in the early 1980s while visiting my mother’s cousin in Sacramento that I first learned how Israeli criminal gangs robbed banks in America. My relative’s husband, who held a senior position at the California Board of Equalization (i.e. the state agency for tax administration), told me about an organized gang that had set up phony jewelry shops in the Los Angeles area. Members of the gang would rifle through the trash bins behind expensive stores on Rodeo Drive in order to find carbon copies from credit card purchases. The gang would then use the pilfered credit card numbers to ring up fake purchases from their fake jewelry stores. The primary losers in this scam were the banks, which lost a great deal of money before the racket was shut down. All of the members of the criminal network, I was told, were Israelis.
Shortly thereafter, while on a sojourn in Puerto Rico where I worked as a sailing instructor, I came across a similar Israeli operation engaged in agriculture. I attended a Jewish holiday party held by the Israelis involved in this commercial enterprise. This operation was centered near Ponce on the south shore and was involved in producing melons and fruit. I recall seeing their logo on the produce boxes in the local supermarkets. Two years later, when I was back on the island, I learned that the farming operation had suddenly shut down and the Israelis had left the island owing more than $67 million to local banks.
These are just two of the Israeli criminal financial scams I personally became aware of in the early 1980s in which the primary targets were American banks. There have certainly been other much larger scams of this sort perpetrated by Israelis in the United States. Such organized criminal activity is actually quite typical of Israelis in America.
During the past three decades, primarily because the U.S. government has not cracked down on it, the Israeli criminal network has been allowed to grow while increasing the range and complexity of its operations in the United States.
Zionist control of the U.S. Department of Justice has enabled Israeli criminals to escape prosecution, which was painfully evident in the official mishandling of the 9-11 investigation by Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff – the son of an Israeli Mossad agent. Chertoff is the person responsible for the “non-investigation” of 9-11 who authorized the wholesale confiscation and destruction of crucial evidence.
The hallmark of an Israeli operation, such as the false-flag terror attacks of 9-11, the Madoff scam, or the government bail-out of A.I.G. and Goldman Sachs, is the presence of Israelis (or Zionist agents) at the key nodal points of the operation. Not only are all the key players in the operation Israelis or Zionists, but so are the investigators, media interpreters, prosecutors, and judges who wrap up the loose ends of the crime. The clearest indication of a major
Israeli crime is the presence of a Zionist at the critical points of the operation.
In this respect, the plundering of the banks of Iceland is similar to the Madoff scam. The biggest “losers” in the Madoff operation were fellow Zionist crooks, such as orthodox Jewish fraudsters Jacob Ezra Merkin and Sonja Kohn of Bank Medici. Merkin and Kohn operated “feeder funds” that funneled billions of dollars directly into the Madoff pipeline. More than half the money that disappeared in the Madoff pipeline came from such “feeder funds.” In this way tens of billions of dollars were sent to secret offshore Zionist-controlled accounts — where they remain to this day.
The controlled media’s focus on Madoff’s Jewish “victims” serves to divert public attention from the fact that the co-conspirators in the Madoff scam are Zionist orthodox Jews connected to private Israeli banks – with secretive branches in Switzerland (and other offshore tax havens). The focus on high-profile Jews who claim to have lost money in the Madoff scam is meant to mollify public anger against the Zionist-controlled judicial system that is protecting the criminal network behind the Madoff scam — and its ill-gotten gains.
The Icelandic operation has the distinct profile of an Israeli operation. The First Lady of Iceland and Robert Tchenguiz, the largest borrower from Kaupthing, are both from Persian Jewish families of jewelers (with affinities for Genghis Khan) based in Israel, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. While there are many other foreign Jews connected to the Icelandic heist, it is the involvement of Jews with connections to Israeli intelligence that reveals the outline of the Israeli operation.
WHO OWNS THE BANK?
The superficial reporting in the Zionist-controlled media obscures the Israeli connections. The New York Times, for example, reported on 8 May 2010 that Hreidar Mar Sigurdsson and Magnus Gudmundsson, former executives of Iceland’s Kaupthing bank, had been arrested. Kaupthing was the largest of the three Icelandic banks that collapsed in October 2008 “under a mountain of debt, causing the Icelandic currency to crash and sending the economy into a tailspin.”
“Magnus Gudmundsson, a former Kaupthing executive who now runs a privately held bank in Luxembourg, was also arrested,” the Times reported. This raised the obvious question about what kind of bank would be run by a former executive of a bank that had failed so badly as Kaupthing. The private bank that Gudmundsson was running when he was arrested in May was actually the former Kaupthing Luxembourg, a branch that had been taken over in July 2009 and renamed Banque Havilland S.A., after the Guernsey mansion of secretive David “Spotty” Rowland – the new owner of the bank.
Kaupthing Luxembourg was bought by Blackfish Capital, “a small British hedge fund” owned by David Rowland, a British tax exile based in the Channel Islands, and his son Jonathan David Rowland, managing director of Citigroup’s European Financial Entrepreneurs Group. Despite being a tax exile, David Rowland is the largest contributor to Britain’s Conservative Party, which recently won control of the government. When he gave more than £1 million to the party of David Cameron, Rowland said he gave the money because of his concern for “liberty.”
When Rowland took over Kaupthing Luxembourg, Blackfish Capital was headed by Martyn Konig, a former veteran director of NM Rothschild and Sons who held senior positions at Goldman Sachs and UBS. Rowland and Konig are both involved in international mining companies, as are several other key players in the Iceland operation. Why would Rowland want to take over a branch of a failed bank under investigation for its role in the collapse of a country’s economy? Were Rowland’s connections with Israeli intelligence or the Tchenguiz family factors in his decision to take over Kaupthing Luxembourg?
When the former CEOs of Kaupthing and Banque Havilland were arrested, Icelandic Prime Minister Johanna Sigurdardottir said: “It’s crucial that the players in the collapse are held accountable. I’m still of the opinion that the lending practices of Kaupthing were either unethical or illegal.” Sigurdardottir said Kaupthing had lent 1.5 trillion kronur ($11.5 billion) in transactions that were “if not illegal, completely unethical.” The loans were granted to 10 “interlinked parties.”
Independent reporters in Iceland, suspicious of the motives behind the foreign purchase of a key branch of the collapsed bank, criticized the media silence about the takeover of Kaupthing Luxembourg in 2009:
Did Rowland buy Kaupthing Luxembourg in order to control critical information about where billions of dollars had gone? Was Kaupthing Lux a key conduit in Operation Tchenguiz?
Suddenly, without any explanation, Martyn Konig resigned as chairman of the board of Banque Havilland after only a few weeks. Why did Konig quit the new bank so abruptly? Had he discovered dirty business that he wanted no part of? This question is very relevant because the Luxembourg branches of both Icelandic banks Kaupthing and Landsbanki are said to have been neck deep in dirty business. So, why did Rowland buy Kaupthing Luxembourg and what are his connections to Israeli intelligence?
David Rowland is connected to Israel in several ways:
Jonathan Rowland was the founder (with his father) and CEO of JellyWorks Plc, a private equity fund that invested in budding Internet companies. The company only lasted 8 months from its flotation in December 1999 until it was acquired by Shore Capital in August 2000. David Rowland was the biggest shareholder in Shore when it bought JellyWorks. Rowland’s investment of £12 million in the company was bought out for £45 million – a nearly four-fold return.
Jonathan Rowland has a vision of becoming a banking dynasty:
There is also an amazing 9-11 connection. Jonathan Rowland was supposed to be at a meeting at the World Trade Center on 9-11 – but stayed away, just like Larry Silverstein and 4,000 Israelis, saying he had a hangover. As The Independent (U.K.) reported in October 2003:
Was it really a hangover that kept Jonathan Rowland from attending the meeting he had flown across the ocean for – or did he also get a message telling him to stay away from the World Trade Center, like the 4,000 Israelis who were supposed to have been in the Twin Towers on 9-11? Are the Rowland’s tied to the network of Israelis suspected of pulling off 9-11? It certainly appears that they are.
ZVI MAROM AND THE MOSSAD
Zvi Marom, one of the directors of Shore Capital since 2000, is an Israeli with “close links with the Israeli Chief Scientist’s Office and with Governmental bodies funding research for Israeli high tech companies.” The main governmental bodies funding research for high-tech companies in Israel are the military — and the Mossad. Marom and the Mossad are evidently working with David Rowland, who took over Kaupthing Luxembourg in 2009.
The Luxembourg subsidiary of Kaupthing was established in 1998 and has a branch in Geneva, Switzerland. This is the same model as the privatized Israel Discount Bank (IDB), which has a subsidiary in New York and a branch in Switzerland.
One of the directors of IDB New York, Seymour Merinsky (aka Sy Syms) was a business partner of Bernard Madoff at Yeshiva University’s Syms School of Business.
MENDI AND MOISES GERTNER
Icelandic investigators have reportedly put two secretive Israeli property tycoons, Moises and Mendi Gertner, orthodox Jewish brothers affiliated with the Mossad’s diamond-dealing Benny Steinmetz, under scrutiny. The Gertner brothers reportedly bought a 2.5 percent stake in Kaupthing Bank in June 2008 for 14 billion kronur ($176 million). Why did the Israeli property and diamond-dealing Gertner brothers (co-owners with Israeli right-wing diamond tycoons Benny Steinmetz and Dan Gertler of Nikanor, a copper and cobalt mining operation in the Congo), invest in Kaupthing when it was clearly failing?
Steinmetz and Gertler, founder of the DGI Group, are close to and supported by the Israeli military/intelligence establishment. They are friends of Israel’s foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman and prime ministers Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu. Why would Israeli diamond and mining tycoons connected to Israeli intelligence invest in an Icelandic bank on the verge of collapse? Were they simply using funds borrowed from the bank to try to prop it up just four months before it collapsed?
Simon Halabi, a Syria-born Jew who was another big borrower from Kaupthing, disappeared owing some $75 million to the bank. Halabi, a property tycoon who was estimated to be worth £3 billion in 2007 was declared bankrupt in the High Court of London at the end of March 2010 over a £56.3 million loan he received from the bank’s British unit, Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander. Halabi was not present at the hearing and no representations were made on his behalf. Halabi’s last address was at a hotel in Switzerland. Why would Simon Halabi be in Switzerland? Most likely because that’s where he stashed the money.
http://www.bollyn.com/iceland-the-hallmarks-of-an-israeli-operation
@Athanasius:
Even when I was in high school I sensed that Hollywood had an anti-Christian bias. Nobody told me; it was just something that I figured out on my own.
The rest of my comment might not be related to what I wrote above. And to let others know — it contains some descriptions of Hollywood material that might be offensive to some.
I’ve been thinking/wondering about whether Hollywood cares more about making money or pushing its various subversive agendas — anti-White attitudes, hypersexualization of culture, disrespect for tradition/elders/religion, etc.
I used to think that money comes first. And I still believe that is possible. But if that is the case, then I figure they would create more wholesome entertainment, at least once in a while. There is probably a big market for it; I think many people in America are starved for something that does not try to push the boundaries or shove foul language or sexual content into virtually every movie. That’s probably a big reason why pre-1960′s movies are still popular.
I remember another Kevin Spacey movie I saw a while back, American Beauty. The dad (Spacey) starts smoking pot, and lusting after his high school daughter’s friend, a cheerleader. And there is a sex scene where his wife cheats on him.
He (Spacey’s character) also mentions how masturbating in the shower is the best part of his day.
It’s truly sad and messed up that that kind of movie is made and rewarded, and seen by millions of White people.
I think that film won an Oscar for Best Picture.
Anyway, thanks to Mr. Connelly for this article and for watching Hollywood movies through a pro-White lens.
@Random: By promoting the da Vinci Code? Richard Dawkins? By putting blasphemous garbage on the history channel every holiday? By siding with the Muslims and calling the Serbs genocidal monsters?
In just what context are they pro-Christian?
@James Whistler: I have to take these things in small doses. Otherwise, I’d start to act funny. For the same reason, I still haven’t seen “Blindside” or “Precious.” Just listening to the always-wonderfully James Edwards-Keith Alexander discussion about the movies on The Political Cesspool was enough to depress me. Still, for the cause, these things must be deconstructed.
@Lombard: Lombard, thank you for the heads up on the director’s cut of “Once Upon a Time.” I just ordered a used copy for a few dollars.
BTW, even when the original came out, I sat up and paid attention. Pair that with “Casino.” It’s pretty out in the open who these mobsters are, but I think the competing narrative about the Italian mob controls people’s views on the matter.
@Athanasius:
I don’t think the popularity of either the Da Vinci Code or Dawkins can be traced to TV, and neither of these two is usually portrayed favorably.
Such as? Ever special on Jesus that I’ve ever seen on TV has always assumed that he’s a real person and that the Bible provides a mostly accurate description of his life. Like I said, serious criticism of Christianity is not permitted on TV.
Also, our traditional European holidays like Easter have increasingly come under attack from fundamentalist Christians themselves for being “pagan” (i.e. not of judaic origin and therefore unacceptable).
Anti-Serb, not anti-Christianity.
As far as pro-Christian stuff on the news, here’s a few examples I came up with spending a few minutes searching on YouTube.
Positive coverage of a Christian “viral video” from CNN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ah9i4PvFs
Positive coverage from ABC of Tim Tebow and his “faith” (notice how the mass media always uses the word “faith” positively, like it’s the greatest thing in the world):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cls1svaJ9e8
An ABC story claiming that speaking in tongues has medical benefits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
I could dig up more, but I’d like to see some examples of the news attacking Christianity.
You can also check out antiwhitemedia.com for plenty examples of TV ads that are blatantly anti-White. You can’t watch TV for more than half an hour now without seeing such an ad. But can you find me ONE example of an ad attacking Christianity?
People I Know
A White Nationalist Classic.
If I had unlimited resources, the first explicitly White Nationalist movie I would produce would be a dramatization of the corrupt and cynical way in which the inner party dominated racial extortion coalition operates.
It would vividly show how sexual vice is used to control media celebrities and politicians, how violence is used when necessary, and perhaps most important, how the constituent racial and ethnic groups in this coalition all use each other and basically hate each other.
But miraculously, an outer party liberal – Robert Redford – has produced it for me.
It is called “People I Know.”
And it is the only truly explicit White Nationalist movie in existence. Braveheart may come close, but it is a Scottish nationalist movie – ardently separatist in its operation – which although uniting Scottish and Irish separatists in a uniquely modern and un-historical way – still involves fighting between groups of Christian Whites.
“People I Know” is an overt and explicit attack on the racial extortion coalition.
In some respects, it is similar to “Eyes Wide Shut”, but is much more explicit. The average soccer mom would miss entirely the ethnic driver behind the system of social control revealed in “Eyes Wide Shut.”
The “J word” pops up in the middle of “People I Know” and is used with increasing frequency through the climactic conclusion. You even get to see an inner party cabal in action – complete with billionaires, media barons, a Rabbi and bands of armed izzy bodyguards.
It is available for rental at Hollywood video (and I assume, Blockbuster) and available for sale on EBAY for from $7 to $15.
The protagonist of the movie, played by Al Pacino, is a public relations crisis manager specializing in covering up scandals for movie stars and politicians. He is an “old school” inner party “civil-rights” liberal. His passion and his cause is setting up a fund raising dinner to raise money for the legal defense of some Haitian black illegals threatened with deportation.
He gets a call from his one remaining client, a movie star (played by Ryan O’Neil) to bail out a young starlet/prostitute who managed to get herself arrested.
It turns out that the young starlet was on a mission for the actor (who wants to run for a U.S. Senate seat) to infiltrate and photograph the goings on at a super model pleasure palace run by an inner party billionaire named Scharansky for the purpose of corrupting and then controlling politicians (lowering their cost and increasing the predictability of their votes).
The actor wants the film because Scharansky is supporting some other candidate for the Senate seat he wants, and the actor needs the goods on Scharansky’s pleasure palace in order to force Scharansky to shift his substantial support and money to his own campaign effort.
Unaware of all this, Pacino’s IP character visits one Reverend Block, a black leader in Harlem to get him to attend the fundrasing dinner – at which point the hostility between black and inner party surfaces explicitly.
He next visits Scharansky for the purpose of persuading him to attend the fund raising dinner for Haitian immigrants, and here we are informed that Scharansky could care less about Haitian immigrants, hates Reverend Block – who he accuses of calling the IP “hooked nosed devils” – and desperately wants to know where the young actress’ “toy” containing the incriminating pictures might be.
Pacino’s character tirelessly tries to convince people to come to his fundraiser, and despite the fact that none of these liberals cares about Haitian immigrants, and almost all say they will not attend, in the end every one of them attends because of the opportunity to work the rest of the crowd for money, influence and glamor.
The cynicism at the party – scratching one another’s eyes out in private conversations while striking happy, multi-culti poses for the camera is quite revealing, juxtaposed as it is with old photographs of 1960′s civil rights marches and pictures of MLK delivering his famous IP ghosted speeches.
While it is always hazardous to speculate about the subjective intentions of the producer, I suspect that these photos of the 1960s civil rights era were intended to shame a liberal audience into rejecting the cynicism and elitism of modern multi-culturalism and embrace the “old idealism” of the cause.
But when viewed objectively, the 1960′s civil rights movement is made to appear equally cynical by its juxtaposition with the attitudes and behavior of its current standard bearers.
When the movie ends, I am left sitting on the sofa wondering exactly how and why such a movie could ever be made in the first place. It is a clear threat gesture. The film played only in a few “art houses” in New York and Los Angeles before being released on DVD. While expensive acting talent was employed, there was essentially no ad budget, and the public at large is completely unaware of this film’s existence.
It looks like Redford and his backers (the outer party faction in the racial extortion coalition) has been angered by the Sharanskys of the world and has produced this movie as a warning shot across the bow, so to speak.
It is a frank confession that the racial extortion coalition is a fragile one, and that while the blacks have been unhappy with their subordinate role for many years, the appearance of this film tells me that the outer party liberals have now joined them.
The fact that this movie was made is good news for us.
Buy a copy and enjoy.
Yggdrasil-
http://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/piknow.htm
@TabuLa Raza:
Wikipedia says it was produced by Michael Nozik (presumably a jew; he also produced Quiz Show, mentioned in the comments above), and written by Jon Robin Baitz, whom Wikipedia lists as an “LGBT Jew”. I don’t see where Yggdrasil got the idea that it was produced by Redford.
Buckle,
I never said the Vatican was “controlling the USA”. Why is it that ever time I come here, I always find someone like you who takes my words completely out of context.
Here is the FACT buckle. DC use to be the Virgina Trading Corp. It was created well after the founding of our nation and it was made it’s own “nation” within a 10 sq mile area. Inside DC is the UNITED STATES Corporation which was unlawfully created in 1871. These entities are controlled by the City of London Corporation (Banker/Crown alliance). The City of London Corporation has been owned by the Vatican city Corporation since 1215.
Don’t believe me? I care not. Only those who search for the truth find it and those who verify what I have said will see that it is true.
I said the “Jews” control that unholy trinity that controls America, which is a hell of a long way from saying the “vatican controls America” as some blanket statement.
Technically speaking, ‘Once upon a time in America’ runs something like 4h29m.
Good luck getting your hands on that original version, though.
The Al Pacino film (read: ‘People I Know’) which yours truly saw 10 years ago, turned out rather unspectacular; so much so that I had to look it up on u-tube to refresh my recollection.
I haven’t got a clue how this Yiddische-heavy production suddenly morphed into ‘truly explicit White Nationalist movie’. LOL
I forgot to add something in my previous comment (@Richard: .)
In the movie (American Beauty) Kevin Spacey’s character is killed by his latently homosexual neighbor who happens to be a collector of Nazi memorabilia.
I watched that movie years ago, so my memory might not be wholly accurate.
Have a good week.
Director Chandor is hardly an “outsider.” His father worked for Merrill Lynch for 40 years, he decided to work on the plot for the film while wheeling and dealing real estate in Tribeca (not cheap). On record he talks about living with his family in nyc banking culture. If he’s not jewish, then more likely he’s catholic, since the majority of whites in nyc (and on wall street) are, (this is just the real numbers). Wasps —BACK IN REALITY— make up only 4% of the city’s demographic.
This is what makes the film’s casting so funny.
Most White Protestant Americans HAVE NO IDEA that they truly DO NOT EXIST in any “major cities” (such as New York, Chicago, D.C., L.A., South Florida, etc.) Most white majorities in those places are catholic, and the cities have deep ties with the catholic third world (the open south border).
New York is only 4% White Protestant.
There are not enough real Wasps there to make a film with them.
In the end—- all other groups will see that you cannot de-legimate the Founding Group without a price. But neither catholics nor jews want to give up their gains in ousting the Children of the Founders, the arguably most legitimate “heirs” to the county— at least they should have a decent nod for the historical record. The constant re-revisionism to legitimate new groups leaves a muddle of history that cannot make any sense— just a power grab.
A real shame. Those with the larger vision deserved better in the land their real ethnic kin created from those who came after.
It is wrong —wrong in the sense of blowback, eternal law, karma —whatever you want to call it— for first generational people (EVEN IF WHITE) to feel more power to voice their thoughts and feelings than people in the country ten or twenty generations or more, who are silenced.
That is one great problem with “white” nationalism. There is no equality… equality is a lie—- except that it wishes to maintain all whites are equal. (The reason for this is to hold onto the gains by other white group at the expense of the founders children.) Think about this, and I’m sure you will have to see the truth of it.
Chandor is not an outsider. He’s from a nyc banking family. He was raised in an environment that is 4% WASP, and as anti-wasp a culture as it gets, with various competing groups all happy to cast that group as villains.
Because it was a Wasp country (it really was), there are high stakes, it seems, in obscuring that information from younger generations, who might question what happened to the Children of the Founders, and whether their vanishment has been a really good things, and also from the wasps outside the cities (who —while religiously actually still a majority— often do not realize they have ceased to exist in various hot-spot regions of what was once their own country and that is why they are maligned, have no voice, are not seen in media, etc..
Scorcese, Coppolla, Tarantino, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Garafalo, DeNiro, DeCaprio…the Supreme Court, Napolitano, Reno, Panetta….etc, etc.
Re: Beary’s Adorno’s Bastards and the Frankfurt School
http://love.flawlesslogic.com/html/pleasant.html
http://www.vivamalta.org/index.php?topic=4617.0%3bwap2
Truncated, but maybe insightful.
Once Upon a Time in America. http://is.gd/IkZi2t
Great movie.
I saw a brief section of an episode of the TV show 30 Rock (“Stone Mountain’). The Alec Baldwin character says to the Tina Fey character, “I asked you to get an actor from Middle America, a real person.” After complaining that she held auditions in San Francisco (“the gay people’s republic of Drugifornia”) and Toronto (“Why not just go to Iraq?”), the Baldwin character says: “The audience doesn’t want your elitist East Coast alternative intellectual left wing…” The Fey character interrupts, saying,”Why don’t you just say ‘Jewish’; this is taking too long.”
Jewish comedy writers caricaturing themselves. But of course the stereotype of Jews in the media is basically accurate.
@Trenchant:
If you next tell me, my friend, that you feel the same way about The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance or Little Big Man, I shall be left with no other choice but to shoot you. I shall weep as I pull the trigger, but pull it I will.
In the early part of last century, Bolshevik communism in Russia was portrayed as a noble social experiment, despite the Jewish-led slaughter that comprised the reality.
After Jewish influence waned in the highest echelons of the Soviet power structure — and a Gentile Stalin lifts the unspoken prohibition on purging Jews — we in America then get Rocky IV.
A diminutive underdog Jew (portrayed as an Italian Catholic, as-per-usual), against a towering blond Gentile Aryan Übermensch symbolizing the evil of communist Russia.
And after the blue-eyed ogre is vanquished, what is the message? Change has come to evil, backward Gentile Russia. Time to give up your cultural influence and miscegenate yourselves out of existence though unfettered global universalism.
What a wonderful message.
@Pierre de Craon: I’ve not seen your two (a lacuna to be filled?), but I’m sticking with my Sergio Leone. I think the Hyman Roth character in The Godfather II is actually far more sinister than these Jewish bootleggers, in the sense that the hierarchy of ethnic crime was correctly represented. Roth being Meyer Lansky, aged-pensioner and purchaser of hundreds of millions of dollars of Israel Treasury paper. I believe Jeff Gates has done yeoman’s work covering this in Guilt by Association, but hat’s off to Michael Piper Collins for his Final Judgment, which I heartily recommend.
http://www.4shared.com/office/He747qAm/Michael_Collins_Piper_-_Final_.htm
@Franklin Ryckaert: Or when they’re serving jewish interests.
@dixie: The 1965 immigration, also know as the Hart-Celler act, was made by Jews like Emanuel Celler and Catholics like Ted Kennedy. I’m a Catholic myself and recognise that.
@James Whistler: A very good question, Brother Whistler. I think a very important step is to do everything we can – and I’m referring to those of us who are awake and wise to enemy #1 – to help educate our fellow White brothers and sisters.
When we encounter one of these absolutely nauseating, brain dead White ‘Christian’ morons who are chosenite toe kissers and refuse to listen to the mountains of legitimate, 100 percent truthful and easily verified evidence that proves that jews are attempting to genocide our people – take our message elsewhere and shun these mentally defective, programmed-for-suicide White idiots. Completely ostracize them. And, let them know that you view them as the most contemptible sort of race traitor, as you depart for greener and more fertile pastures of White intellectual material. This includes family and ‘friends’ – as hard as it might be, to cut ties with family members – but, I believe that it has to be done, because we can not hope to survive and win this epic battle we are now engaged in – if we have Whites among us who ‘love’ or ‘worship’ the very enemy who is trying to exterminate our race from this planet. Such Whites have been programmed for suicide and I doubt very many of them can be saved – but, they could infect other Whites, if they are not shunned.
Treason to one’s race and tribe has to again become the #1 most scorned crime any White person can commit. I might also point out that once this cardinal rule again begins to take hold within a critical minority of Whites – human nature being a very powerful force – I am certain that it will radiate outwards and spread like wildfire and it will not be long before race treason and racial disloyalty will again assume the dominating prominence that it once held within White European communities of people.
Remember – a zero tolerance policy must be adopted for such behavior. Consequences MUST be associated with such behavior and those consequences must be as negative and as unpleasant as possible. Race treasonous children can find their inheritances being donated to White racial realist causes, such as TOO, instead of going into their pockets. A suitable reward for participating in the destruction of their parents genetic bloodline, right?
I’m convinced that our enemy understands how powerful human and tribal loyalty can be – and that is why they work so hard to discourage racial loyalty between whites and to promote cross-racial altruistic insanity, such as the anti-white garbage packaged by Hollywood in the revolting movie ‘The Blind Side’. This theme is repeated over and over and over in countless movies; the only way a White character can be shown to be ‘noble’ and ‘honorable’ – is when they take the side of a minority against the interests of their own fellow Whites. Hence, learn to recognize this ‘meme’ and understand what its primary purpose is intended to be, i.e., to brainwash Whites into believing that betraying your own race and helping other races is a pathway to ‘acceptance’ by the jews who control Hollywood and the mainstream media.
Never forget: This enemy seeks our racial extinction and racial genocide. And, they play by no rule book – they play to win, and they will use every dirty, devious, conniving and underhanded tactic in the book to complete this criminal objective. We cannot do battle with this enemy and expect to prevail if we insist upon clinging to our suicidally insane Christian based morality and foolish notions of fair play.
In short, we have to become more ruthless and more determined to survive and defeat our enemy than they are to exterminate our race. It’s as simple as that, folks.
@Trenchant: In the spirit of the genial fairmindedness for which I have become famous, at least to the various cats whom I have given a home over the years, allow me to reconsider my earlier statement. Since I saw the film but once and that one time on television fully thirty years ago, my judgment may have been hasty. It may also have been colored by my loathing for the Man with No Name trilogy, which revived the moribund career of an overrated, albeit very good-looking, cowboy actor who has become an overrated and thoroughly PC director.
Along with my reading of Cicero’s De oratione, a viewing of OUATITW is now on my to-do list for my eleventh decade. I promise that I’ll get back to you with my perhaps revised and properly formed reaction.
Do yourself a favor, however, and steer clear of the two movies I mentioned. Have you ever heard of a little NZ film, about five or six years old, called Dean Spanley? I bought it on the recommendation of a brilliant former colleague of mine, and I shall be in his debt for the advice till the day I expire. If you watch it and don’t react similarly, I shall be stupefied.
@Trenchant: Your reco of the Piper book tips the scales. I’m going to get it.
@Trenchant:
It would be hard to come out ( for Roberts) and say the critical factor is a preponderance of Jews. If we had an ordinary westerner in the US, UK, Canada read this article they just wouldn’t understand or accept that Jewish scriptwriters, directors, producers and distributors have such a pervasive and pernicious influence. They would be even unaware of the numbers and if we tried to explain quite a few would be conditioned to react with disbelief and discomfort. Nevertheless many of us can see through the matrix, quite a few Serbs and Macedonians can now as well. Empirical data is very potent at seeing through the matrix hence the violent attack on IQ research, race and crime data. Culture of critique was convincing because of its use of empiical data as much as possible. Evolutionary Psychology is an extremely potent framework as well but it’s clear it is effectively suppressed because the “authorities” understand it’s implications and either live in fear. When I see the Jew Steven Pinker appear on a documentary he merely obfuscates, he is evasive around this issue.
Until I read culture of critique I felt quite ill at ease as the world seemed malevolently anti white. Understanding provides a certain release.
@Mark White:
“Richard Nixon and rev. Billy Graham saw the problem in 70s but was too late.”
I do not understand where you are going with this. Richard Nixon “saw” the problem? I lived through the Watergate period and I clearly recall how “tricky Dick” facilitated (along with his Jew “diplomat” Kissinger) the eventual relocation of all of our key manufacturing industries (Jewish owned for the most part, of course) to China and the rest of the far east.
Are you saying that Nixon would have, if he could have done so, tried to balance the scales of power back to the old WASP elite? Or that Nixon was in some way a good politician, but merely misunderstood? Could you please explain?
Not only does most of the world know our modern financial system was created by jews and solely benefits jews, and their lackeys, but some of those morons brag about it every chance they get. The clock is ticking…..
Oh, and don’t kid yourself, they are well aware the system is collapsing and have everything covered. It is a steep uphill battle…..
@Random: The Serbs are ALWAYS identified as Orthodox Christians when their supposed crimes are discussed.
Moreover, who writes about religion for Newsweek. Are you saying that Lisa Miller is pro-Christian?
How many times have we seen Bart Ehrman (constantly promoted by the media) or Dominic Crossan promoted by the History Channel or TLC or some other media outlet–or writing ridiculous things like this:http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/john_dominic_crossan/2008/12/gay_marriage_another_devilish.html
The media Jews WANT us to abandon discipline and cohesion, hence they hate Christianity.
The fact that they would “promote” speaking in tongues–which is practiced by an eccentric and destructive minority of Christians only furthers that point.
@George:
‘Could you please explain?’
I am pretty sure he is talking about the recorded conversations that NIxon and Graham had about the extent of Jewish Power in America. Clearly Tricky Dick was probably the last President that really had an inkling of what Jewry is really up to. (Carter doesn’t like Zionism though so he gets some points)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Discussion_of_Jews_with_Nixon
I think you’ll find the rule is: if some aspect of Christianity appeals to ‘Jews, they favour it. If another aspect doesn’t appeal, they will be hostile. That’s what anyone would predict. (In the same way, consider say redistribution of income: if it goes to the poor, bad; if it goes to ‘Jews’, good).
Thus e.g. the Old Testament appeals to ‘Jews’ since it appears to give them legitimacy. Foolish idiots like the retired Archbishop of Canterbury are supported by Jews. And… well, fill in the rest. Once you see the trick it’s obvious enough.
@Luke:
“We cannot do battle with this enemy and expect to prevail if we insist upon clinging to our suicidally insane Christian based morality and foolish notions of fair play.”
This. But try telling that the Alice Tellers here, who pride themselves in their “faith” and “decency” and “manners.”
@Richard:
You raise an interesting point. Hollywood does seem to act against its own best interests by not making more family friendly movies. I think that the simple answer is that it is much easier to appeal to our baser instincts then to provide uplifting fare. In addition, very few in Hollywood have any real feelings or understanding of genuine Christian values other then a deep seated dread. One has only to read the comments of those here who so virulently condemn the faith of their ancestors to see how successful our foes have been. Simple unbelievers have no reason for such hatred and contempt.
On Catholics – it’s true Mexican immigration might be supported b the Vatican (I have no idea if it is); and it’s true some US military actions (Congo, Vietnam) had Catholic support. And there are (remains of?) Catholic power in New York. BUT
@fender:
The alternative you offer of hopelessness and contempt for our own does not seem to be working much better.
Hollywood and Wall Street, birds of a feather, are traitors to America and the Christian people who settled the country.
@Tyron Parsons:
The City of London Corporation has been owned by the Vatican city Corporation since 1215.
I was born in London and have worked in the City of London. St. Thomas More was martyred in London and was his fellow martry St. John Fisher. Both upheld the supremacy of the Pope in matters of Faith. This was nearly 500 years ago. Catholics in the UK have only enjoyed emancipation since the 1820′s. I could not do justice to the media abuse which Pope Benedict (and Catholics in general) were subject to prior to his visit in 2010. Americans are out of the depth on many subjects. My advice is to stick to evolutionary psychology. The whole point of which seems to be that there is no conspiracy. KM and many on here state that Jews behave the way they do because they are Jews. There is nothing myserious or conspiratorial at all about this. If you stand up to them as medieval Catholic Europe did their control is arrested. Ah, medieval Europe, when Europe was Catholic …
@fender @Luke
The Christians are the same as the Constitutions/Libertarian types; they love their abstractions more than they love actual White people. Both groups say as much, is there any doubt the Christians would rather have non-Whites take over completely rather than have a non-Christian White society? Constitutionalists/Libertarians would almost certainly rather have a non-White Constitutional Republic or a free market full of non-Whites than have Whites adopt a different economic or political system.
These people labor under the idea that the form-of-government matters more than who-runs-the-government. The idea – seemingly built into Whites (MacDonald’s “moral community” argument) – is that if we create some perfect abstraction, it won’t matter who runs it; the abstraction itself ensures the benefits, or even is a goal in and of itself.
It’s only when we can love our (White) selves more than our abstract religions/ideologies that we can prevail. The religions, constitutions, and economics are meant to serve US, not the other way around.
Thus; if we lose YHWH’s favor, we deserve hell. If we “initiate force” we deserve to die; we are “free to lose” by never adopting any collectivist economic strategy. Our morality is exterior to us, and superior to us.
@buckle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uprjmoSMJ-o
@fender:
Since you are pleased to use me as an example please provide one instance in which my faith, manners or decency have prevented me from confronting and challenging my opponents.
@Mickey Meadows:
just watched another old monty python. It is actually really striking how, because they and the production team were kindred, the managed to totally lampoon everything about society yet come across affectionate and without subliminal edge.
Maybe have a looksee….not for the laughs but just for what must be distant memory for Americans how comedy used to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFS8-MlLtms
@Alice Teller:
I believe your faith prevents you (and others on here) from fully embracing White nationalism. A person can’t serve two moral paradigms equally– he cannot embrace one philosophy, which by its nature favors strength and power, science and genetics, ethnocentrism and racism….and also a universalistic, non-White philosophy that favors humility, peace, anti-racism, and social justice.
Notice I am not attacking you personally, but rather your attitude towards the subject of Whites. I’m sure you’re a great person in real life but when it comes to this subject I think you and others are misguided. In this struggle we cannot be good Christians, or Christians in any sense. We must be Aryans, and we must be every bit as nasty and uncompromising and arrogant and underhanded and self-centered as the Jews are.
And yes, my posts often have a sense of pessimism and hopelessness attached to them. I admit that, and it’s a weakness of mine. I know what my flaws are– a lot of Christians on here, however, don’t seem to recognize theirs. BTW I don’t think I’ve ever displayed any contempt for White people on here, only their weaknesses.
@fender:
You’re a strikingly clear headed person. The pessimism and hopelessness is from the same clear sightedness.
It may not be good judgement to speak so on here, but as you say this might be explained as an area of weakness…in which case at least you know it, as you say.
I have big doubts about the wisdom of getting into the Christian thing. Not because you are wrong…I definitely agree with the way you say we must come to be. But because it is self-evidently an intractable situation telling someone their religion is no good. People won’t be open to that, at all. It’s like telling someone not to bring their wife to the dinner party because she’s too fat
@fender:
I may not agree entirely on your definition of either white nationalism nor my own faith. If you will forgive me for saying so, you appear to be blinded by Jewish propaganda. To reduce something as rich and complex as Christianity to anti-racism and social justice is unworthy of you. Again I refer you to our history in which Christianity stood firm against out foes.
You are quite correct that some Christians have become lost and confused as have many of our people. The relentless assault by our foes has had its effect on all our strengths and institutions.
I find nothing in Christianity which demands that I disavow white loyalty. Nor do I accept your position that we must lower ourselves to Jewish levels in order to win. It was, in fact, our own arrogance that left us vulnerable. We simply could not conceive of the fact that such a pitiful, hated people could ever best us.
You say that it is nothing personal, yet unless it is my imagination, the many men on this site who are professing Christians do not sees to be singled out as often as I.
I think that any review of your comments would refute the notion that you have never expressed contempt for our own people unless you define us as our weaknesses.
We are in a bad spot, naturally our own weaknesses of all sorts have contributed to that. But we have a long and glorious history and we will right ourselves. If you cannot have faith in God, have faith in yourself, your history and your people.
@Alice Teller:
The reality is very bad, and while it cannot help to emphasise this too much, by the coin of it being the reality, knowing so is the only possible route to a way out, if there is a way out.
It’s like a smart friendly man calling himself Ted called at our house last night, who bowled us over with his insensity of moral critique and vision of a better world. The words were right but we saw the glint in the eye, and on some level we knew he was not what he pretended to be. But we were too polite and socially conscious to just stand up and tell him to get out of our house, instead letting him charm us into the early hourse until we fell asleep.
Now we are waking up in the early hours, our feet and hands tied and gags in our mouths, and Bundy is upstairs halfway through murdering our children, and soon he’ll be on the way down the stairs to finish the job.
That’s our situation…and that is why we have moments of total despair and hopelessness.
Buckle,
The city of London is a foreign nation to the surrounding country just like DC and the UNITED STATES is a foreign nation to the united State of America. To even suggest that the Vatican city corp has not owned the city of London Corp (Crown/Banker alliance) since 1215 is complete nonsense.
In 1215 the Vatican gained all rights to the City of London Corp because King John adbicated his throne forever to the Vicar of Christ (Pope) through treaty. The Vatican claims ownership of the entire planet and all inhabitance.The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1495 & 1493)
Look at American UCC “law”, which is really economic/Admiralty law of the sea brought onto the land. This legal (which means fiction) system was forced upon America and her natural born inhabitance after the organic and lawful united States could no longer hold a quorum due to the “civil war”.
In 1871, the UNITED STATES Corporation was created unlawfully in DC (Which is owned by the Crown/Bankers).The ‘United States’ is a corporation, not a land mass (united States of America) and it existed before the Revolutionary War and the British Troops did not leave until 1796 (Republica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774)
A 1040 Form is for Tribute paid to Britain (IRS Publication 6209) and the Jewish Banker side of the City of London Corp created the IMF and the UN.The IRS is not a US government agency it is an agency of the IMF (International Monetary Fund)-(Diversified Metal Products v I.R.S et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391)
The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is an agency of the U.N.
(Black’s Law Dictionary 6th Ed. page 816)
So what we see here Buckle and please, check all the references I gave you, is that the Vatican ownes the Crown and Bankers out of the City of London Corp and the City of London Corp owns DC and the UNITED STATES which is controlled through the UN and IMF. This “unholy trinity” of the Vatican/London/US-DC alliance controls and says it “owns” America and through its proxies claim literal ownership by way of adhesion contracts such as Birth Certs-SS#, Voter registration cards etc. For further reference I ask you to look up what a BAR lawyer is. BAR stands for British Accredited Registry. This is a title of nobility (which is unlawful under the real 13th Amendment to the organic and lawful united States of America). This is completely “Jewish” dominated like all facets of America by these spawns of Satan.
All of this is completely unlawful but none the less, this is the power structure that is killing all of us. Who runs the “unholy trinity”? Economic law as well as Catholic canon “law” is derived from Babylon as is “Jewish” economic/UCC “law which come from the Babylonian talmudic “law” which is derived from Sumaria and it is based upon contract law.
Contract law presupposes the true reality that living souls are sovereign and must be brought into another’s jurisdiction by way of contract and this is how America and her people are controlled-unlawfully.
None of these legal fiction systems are Christian law. Christian law, in reality, is based up Christ’s words and actions which interpret the only now valid portions of the Old Testament law, within the context of the New Contract-New Testament- interpeted through the spirit and not the letter.
Where do the “Jews” come into all of this? The Jews come into this because they are from Esau and the Contract the Creator made with him is that he would rule at the end of the age(s) by way of him breaking the yoke off his neck his brother Jacob put there. Jacob has a contract with the creator too which says that his offsping would rule through the ages with dominion and fruitfullness-except at the very end of the age(s) which is always a sign of Christ coming back. Just before Christ came the first time some 2000 years ago, the Esau-Edomite fake “Jews”-”Israelite” ruled the “world” with Rome. They were destroyed and I would suspect that it is about to happen yet again in the present time frame.
Why do I say all of this? Because I am showing you through multipal and easily verifiable sources that just because you worked in the City of London is some menial job does not give you authority to make baseless proclaimations in the face of the evidence I have laid before you; and that my previous comment about the “Jews” (Esau-Edom) running the world through the “unholy trinity” is not some “conspiracy theory” like dunces love to throw about. It is a conspiracy fact.
Lastly, there is good news in all of this. Soon these fake “Jews”-”Israel” will be brought down and Jacob (Europeans-Christians) will rule in their stead a world Government the “Jews” thought they were erecting for themselves.
The United States has NOT had a Treasury since 1921
(41 Stat. Ch 214 page 654)
The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF (International Monetary Fund)
(Presidential Documents Volume 24-No. 4 page 113, 22 U.S.C. 285-2887)
This entity maintains jurisdiction over the 50 Corporation states and all US 14th Amendment citizens (which are Corporation legal fictions) are OWNED by this beast.
Now lets look at Public Law 88-244;Participation by the United States in the Hague Conference on Private International Law and the International (Rome) Institute for the Unification of Private Law H.J. Res. 778
which follows Public Law 88-243 – Uniform Commercial Code for the District of Columbia H.R. 5338
the institution of the law- merchants Uniform Commercial Code.
@Alice Teller:
Ah, you see, that’s the problem. I don’t see Christianity as a rich, complex religion to begin with. Since we can’t agree on basic principles like WN and Christianity I doubt there can be understanding here.
As for the Christian men on this site, it may be true that I criticize them less (or it may not be, as I don’t remember every argument I’ve had), but maybe that’s because their faith doesn’t play as much in their posts as it does in yours. But rest assured I’ve had heated arguments with them, even the ones who posted articles on here.
I define racial contempt as disliking a people entirely, and I’ve never done that on here. If I’ve ever attacked Whites it was never because they were White, but because they displayed a lack of will or intelligence or some other virtue. That’s a form of tough love. If I say something like the White race is screwed then it’s not out of contempt or hate, but disappointment.
French author L.F. Celine once said, “In two hundred years someone will look at a statue of a white man and ask if such a strange thing ever existed.” That doesn’t mean he had contempt for his own race. Rather it meant that he was depressed over the state of his race, and resigned to its possible extinction. I’m somewhat similar.
There is nothing racist or hateful about being loyal to our interests and racial preservation. Movies are loaded with subliminal messages coercing us to be disloyal to our families, our countries, race, culture and traditions. One would think the smartest thing one can do is out-smart everything we are and stand for. With no mention that when we out-smart ourselves we are being out-smarted.
Regardless what gets thrown at Europeans and European Americans the people must understand that you don’t hand over power to anybody. You don’t play ball, you don’t cooperate, you don’t kiss up, you don’t make money at our expense by putting us down or making us look corrupt. That is treason. Stay loyal to everything we are.
The Catholic Church is sensing their lost of power. Here is a you-tube video they produced. Finally.
Test of Fire Election 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vQt6IXXaM
@Alice Teller:
What I value most on here is absolute honesty from everyone, including myself, on our views. I guess that’s why I don’t hold back or spare anyone’s feelings when I post.
I need firmer ground than “faith.” It’s just not enough for me. I need something or someone in the real world to look up to. If I see racial decay everywhere in the West, I’ll call it like I see it. I won’t have faith until there’s something to have faith in.
Until then, I’ll be riding the tiger, as Evola wrote about. Ignoring modernity as much as possible and trying to keep myself intact.
@Tyron Parsons:
Tyron – if you are sympathetic then please do not post this category of material here. The reason is that this blog for discussion of a different area of the situation. We are all aware of the information you have acquired, and we can freely access it ourselves on YouTube.
But if you discuss it here, you will create a risk of attracting the more stupid/idiotic elements that do not understand these things as well as you and would undermine the intellectual quality of this environment. Many thanks.
@Athanasius:
That article more or less makes my point, since it assumes that the reader is Christian and frames its argument in Christian terms. If the jews were really trying to get rid of Christianity, you wouldn’t see articles like that, just as you will never see an article arguing for gay marriage on the basis that it would be “good for White people”. They would never allow a pro-White frame, but they have no problem with a pro-Christian frame.
You’ve shown me no evidence whatsoever that the media is trying to get rid of Christianity, and I think it’s clear that the opposite is the case. Christianity is very good for the jews, which is why they wrote the New Testament and imposed this religion on us in the first place. American Christians are the most philo-Semitic people in the world, and they have never opposed the jews on anything. Why would the jews want to get rid of one of their strongest forms of mind control over us?
Christianity should be evaluated by one criterion and one criterion only: how useful is it to our cause. Given that Christianity has historically shown itself to be quite malleable and fully capable of widely varying interpretations and points of emphasis, it perhaps shouldn’t be discounted a priori.
My guess is that Fender is objecting more to the cart pulling the horse here — White Nationalism being squeezed into a Christian narrative rather than the other way around. In that sense, I agree. Moreover, the only large groups in the Western World with any wide-scale, coherent nationalist movement, the Serbs and the Russians, are both Christian. If Christianity is useful towards this end, then why not stick with it.
Mickey,
In order to defeat a foe, one must know two things. Who they are and who their enemy is. Most of you folks know neither in a lawful sense.
Babbling about nonsensical abstracts without this knowledge is akin to fighting the preverbal windmills like Don Quixote reincarnated.
Citing law, legal sources and treaties does not promote the degradation of the intellectual quality of the environment here. Only the incompetant would believe such a thing.
FYI, I study law and have checked all the sources to make sure what I quoted was true. Any dingbat can do a search of the UCC through LexisNexis and find out that the UNITED STATES is a corporation incorporated in 1871. Any inbred can look up the Magna Carta or the Treaty of Paris or any of the other courses I cited to validity the power structure I suggest.
In order for one to be able to fight the “Jews” effectively, one cannot be within the jurisdiction of their house of card fictitious system because this enables them to do with you what you please. It is a set up from start to finish. However, if one becomes a secured party or finds another way out of their jurisdiction, then the threats they make toward us are without muscle because they lack the lawful or legal power in which to act. If only the 10′s of millions of murdered Russians and Germans knew this when they tried to take them on.
Much (not all) of what I have seen on this site coming from a secular perspective is “intellectual” claptrap disguised as “enlightened” discussions. The facts are, the “Jews” make a religious claim hence without knowing Christian law, Babylonian law- (UCC or Canon law) one will NEVER understand the problem in its true legal or lawful context. This ignorance will rendering will render one easy pickins for the “Jews” and their cohorts when the military arm comes down on America and they start rounding you “intellectuals” up for yet another slaughter.
The topic of this thread is largely about how the “Jews” slander European/Christians. Why do they do this? Because Christian law (Common/Natural) trumps their legal fictions and Europeans as a race(s) threaten the very existence of their rule.
I addressed all of this in my previous posts. Too bad some don’t get it…
@George: I’m talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzF80OPxXrE
@Heather Blue
Yes, they are sensing the loss of THEIR power, the power of the Catholic church. There is not the slightest hint in that commercial that they care anything about the power of White people. The issues? Jobs, taxes, energy, abortion, and gays. Not a word about Whites, not a word about race. So posting this commercial here is nothing but an attempt to hijack a pro-White website for the cause of the multi-racial Judeo-Christian religion.
The Catholic church, from the Pope to the Cardinals to the laity, supports the replacement of Whites in America and Europe with non-White foreigners, as long as those foreigners happen to be Catholics.
That commercial is in its effect, anti-White.
@Hooper
Both are nationalist orthodox, which has zero history in the US or Western Europe. It may as well be as foreign as Islam. No one here is asking the Russians and Serbs to give up their Christianity.
Instead of trying to convince us to become Christian, why don’t you go to your religious websites and try to convince your fellow Christians to become pro-White?
Yet another promising discussion of how Jewish Hollywood is trying to rewrite the history of the financial crisis of 2008 with their Hollywood movies has been – yet again – turned into a platform for the Judeo-Christians to try promote their religion. Richard got to talk about mastrubation again, Parsons demanding we go back to our “Christian” roots between word salad about “UNITED STATES corporation” vs. “united States” (notice the capital letters!) and Alice suggesting we’re sexist.
Christians are NOT offering their help in the pro-White cause, they are demanding Whites help them in their pro-Christian cause.
@Springer
Thanks for all that info about the Jewish financial attacks on Iceland; on topic, informative, and adds context to the subject of the thread.
@Tyron Parsons:
There are established venues for discussion of this matter. The details are also available on YouTube. Please don’t bring it here because we already have access to these areas in other venues.
Richard:
Look at Iceland. This nation is 93% homogenous stock (Norwegian/Scot/Irish) and has the oldest parliamentarian system in the world. They are also 85% Lutheran Christians. The combination of these two factors created the necessary unity and force in which to throw out the “Jewish” bankers. Without a combo of these two factors (race/religion) we will never defeat the “Jew”.
Like I said before, the “Jews” make a religious argument. You cannot defeat this argument in secular terms. Christian law (natural/Common) recognizes both race and religion as reality. Since the Jews make their claims upon a religious/racial identity, there is only one place for Europeans to go in order to defeat them because both of the “Jews” claim (racial/religious) are negated and found completely unlawful and fraudulent by the true Christian claim under law.
The problem with the secular anti Jewish forces is they are playing into the “Jews” hands and this because they are completely confused about law vs. legalities-religion realities and law vs. secular “religious” claims based on legal fiction. This is compounded by their utter ignorance of what the Christian scriptures actually say.
I must admit though, the “Judeo Christian” Corporation Church (501c3) entities under the Corporation UNITED STATES have facilitated your confusion.
Mickey,
Are you the moderator here? This is a yes or no question…
@Tyron Parsons:
“Like I said before, the “Jews” make a religious argument.”
They make a lot of arguments. Most of them are bogus. The Jews are a race, not a religion. Their “religion” is a group evolutionary strategy, or have you not been paying attention to Kevin MacDonald?
“You cannot defeat this argument in secular terms.”
Race realism is a part of secularism.
“Christian law (natural/Common) recognizes both race and religion as reality.”
What Christian law did the people of Iceland cite when they threw the hebrew bankers out?
“The problem with the secular anti Jewish forces is they are playing into the “Jews” hands”
Meanwhile you go to church and kneel before a Jew, his mother, and his father, the “god.” Yeah, but *we’re* playing right into their hands. Right.
” and this because they are completely confused about law vs. legalities-religion realities and law vs. secular “religious” claims based on legal fiction.”
The only “law” is power. Jews got to their positions in society by either ignoring or breaking laws, not following them. Until Whites learn that might is right and that there is no moral paradigm they have to adhere to, they will always be the slaves of the Jews, who are the ones who set the morals for us.
@fender: Your inability, or more likely , your unwillingness to see the complexity in Christianity is immaterial to the reality. I think a guy as bright as you knows that. I will not bother to go into all the reasons why, they have all been stated repeatedly , by better minds then mine.
Your selective view of Christianity does not tell the whole truth, allow me to add a few. It is not Christianity that reduced our birth level to below replacement levels. It is not Christianity that virtually destroyed the family. It is not Christianity that reduced women from the honorable status of wife and mother to an economic commodity slave . It was not Christianity that exchanged courtship followed by life-long committed loyalty for the dignity of hook-up culture and the honor of being judged, repeatedly, as hot or not. It was not Christianity that gave man the hubris to believe he could challenge nature and reality without regard to the consequences. Yet these too have contributed to our plight.
For the record, I am in favor of reason, science and truth. I have no problem with atheists, Buddhists, or agnostics. I simply object to being reduced to a non-spiritual being because you don’t have any faith, apparently in anything or anyone. Nor will I join a movement that demands that I reject my faith, my heritage or my people, simply because you don’t share them. It seems that you are simultaneously accusing me of being a far too meek and gentle Christian and being responsible for preventing all of the really strong and ruthless he-men from getting the job done.
If you had any hope in the future, you would see that we need numbers and allies. We will not win them by slandering our own people over issues that are not central to the goal. If I am mistaken in this, than by all means, you and Luke and all of your other allies go for it. Get right out there and fix this problem without us. I promise to be the first to admit you were right.
@Mickey Meadows:
You are right that our situation is grim. You are wrong to suggest that faith is as unattractive as a fat wife or to liken Christians in any way to child murderers. Careful, Mickey, soon you will be as cranky as I sometimes become.
No matter how grim our situation , it will not be helped by endless repetitions of how hopeless it is, nor by beating off allies or potential allies, for the pleasure of indulging our own petty likes and dislikes. Really, you boys are gonna have to man up! If all it takes to derail your plans is one little old Christian lady sitting on the top of a mountain in the Blue Ridge, perhaps despair is in order for our people, in which case, I will still have my faith.
What about the proof that the ‘Donation of Constantine’ was a forgery? Doesn’t that undercut some of the Catholc claims?
Fender:
“They make a lot of arguments. Most of them are bogus. The Jews are a race, not a religion. Their “religion” is a group evolutionary strategy, or have you not been paying attention to Kevin MacDonald?”
Answer-
The Jews make a racial argument and they make a religious argument. To deny the latter is nothing short of selective ignorance.
“Race realism is a part of secularism.”
Answer-
Race realism in religion was around a lot longer than secularism. The OT contains racial laws and the NT speaks to the rejoining of the race(s) of Israel (10 tribes) and Judah (2-3 tribes) all of whom are related by the same patriarch Jacob through belief and faith in Christ. The so called Jews are trying to steal that identity by claiming to be Judah and Israel, both of which they are not. It is true their tribal (Ashkenaz-genesis 3:10 and Esau-Edom) affiliations are racial and secular in nature today- but this does not negate the fact of their bogus religious claims-hence the word Israel and the word Judah- not to mention the insanity of their claim of being “God’s chosen”-GET IT?
“What Christian law did the people of Iceland cite when they threw the hebrew bankers out?”
Answer-
You’re ignoring the unity in belief system and their moral basis which was the point. What law? I am sure it had to do with the BAN on usury contained in their religious moral code that motivated them. Secondly, the so called Jews are not Hebrews-another identity theft situation.
“Meanwhile you go to church and kneel before a Jew, his mother, and his father, the “god.” Yeah, but *we’re* playing right into their hands. Right.”
Stop your slanders. You know nothing about me. I do not go to a “Church”, I am a “Church” as are those with me as we discuss Jesus Christ. Jesus was not a “Jew”, nor was his mother or earthly adopted father or the father of all, the creator. But yea, you are playing into their hands because you are clueless of the most simple truths pertaining the race(s) that claim to be the “Jews”, who is a Hebrew, what race is Jacob and what race(s) are the Ashkenaz…Esau-Edom.
“The only “law” is power. Jews got to their positions in society by either ignoring or breaking laws, not following them. Until Whites learn that might is right and that there is no moral paradigm they have to adhere to, they will always be the slaves of the Jews, who are the ones who set the morals for us.”
Answer:
All power comes from the ultimate source of power-the Creator/Savior. The “Jews” power comes from the enemy of the Creator/Savior, of law, reason, justice, IE: Satan. They already lost to a “man” as you suppose him, who died willingly on the cross due to their murderous plans put into affect using their “power”. Shortly after Christ Jesus death, Rome came down and murdered all the Esau-Edomite “Jewish” men and raped all the women shoving these fakes to the curb for some 1900 years. How’s that for “power”? If people follow your lead- the “Jews” are evil so we need to be more “evil”- you and they are freakin doomed!
@fender: I for one think you Fender are a treasure. I look forward to reading your posts almost more than featured articles!
Somebody has posted a link to the Spanish Inquisition sketch. Irony alive and well. Who is on the late shift from the USA or must things be left to the wonderful Alice Teller?
@Richard Pierce:
That is it. What earthly use is to debate people who have no interested in anything but their own preconceived notions. I have not suggested that anyone is sexist. It is truly not in my vocabulary . If I suggested anything remotely related to gender it was in reference to the fact that, as all regular readers here know, that there are several men who are clearly my superior in both theology and philosophy, yet it seems that my views are found most objectionable. My views are generally non-denominational Christian and I claim no special expertise. Like picking your weakest opponent to debate with.
@fender:
and we must be every bit as nasty and uncompromising and arrogant and underhanded and self-centered as the Jews are.
I disagree.
And I agree with Mrs. Teller when she writes that you appear unwilling to see Christianity from a more honest, whole viewpoint.
@Alice Teller:
I really enjoyed this particular comment, especially the middle two paragraphs.
I’m not sure what I believe regarding Christianity, but you do a great job of defending it and living it. I’m not trying to hurt Fender’s feelings or other non-Christians (or anti-Christians) by agreeing with you or supporting you. But something about reading your comments today made me feel better.
One of the best things about Christianity is that it encourages its followers to transcend their fear of death and their own selfish lives, to live for something bigger than themselves or even their own families. Not only does that way of living bring peace and a sense of fulfillment, it also happens to be very useful for this pro-White movement.
Right now, a person will not gain much (in terms of money or status) for being openly pro-White. And so the transformative power of Christianity (to forsake selfish living) is very useful for this movement.
Last week I experienced something that I’m somewhat hesitant to write about. I believe that God spoke to me through signs/happenings (last week.) Now I really do believe there is some force that not only created everything we see and don’t see, but also cares about us. I wasn’t really sure until that happened.
But, again, I’m not sure what to believe about Christianity. (I try to be honest with myself and others.)
Anyway, I’ll submit this comment and hope that it helps others somehow.
@Richard Pierce: Yes, they are sensing the loss of THEIR power, the power of the Catholic church. There is not the slightest hint in that commercial that they care anything about the power of White people. The issues? Jobs, taxes, energy, abortion, and gays. Not a word about Whites, not a word about race. So posting this commercial here is nothing but an attempt to hijack a pro-White website for the cause of the multi-racial Judeo-Christian religion.
The Catholic church, from the Pope to the Cardinals to the laity, supports the replacement of Whites in America and Europe with non-White foreigners, as long as those foreigners happen to be Catholics.
That commercial is in its effect, anti-White.
It’s a beginning Richard Pierce, it‘s a beginning and those Catholicd who voted for Obama the first time around probably won‘t this time.
The Church has sat on her laurels and done nothing to preserve white heritage and the white race and suddenly, events have caught up with them. Doing nothing for the white people – who are Christendom – automatically harms Church authority. If they had always given proper guidance to the white rock of the Church they would not be facing loss of authority.
Christendom cannot be ruled by an alien force like the Jews without the Church suffering terrible consequences. Were they deaf, dumb and asleep when the Bolshevik Jews slaughtered ten of thousands of orthodox Christian priests?
@Richard:
Thanks Richard. I do not wish to intrude, but all Christian traditions have acknowledged that because of the genuine power of the religious experience it is wise to seek a spiritual guide. Seek out some Christian that you like and trust and ask them for a recommendation. A wise man will be able to help you better understand the journey you have embarked upon.
Again, thanks for the support. It sometimes feels a little lonely here.
@Alice Teller:
“It seems that you are simultaneously accusing me of being a far too meek and gentle Christian and being responsible for preventing all of the really strong and ruthless he-men from getting the job done.”
I don’t accuse you of anything. My point is that, in a struggle such as ours, your meekness and politeness are not exactly virtues.
But yes, it will take “strong and ruthless he-men” to revitalize the European race. That’s a funny way of putting it, but it’s basically true.
@Tyron Parsons:
Agh!
“The Jews make a racial argument and they make a religious argument. To deny the latter is nothing short of selective ignorance.”
Their “religious” arguments are designed to support their racial ones. Judaism is NOT a religion in the traditional sense, it’s a racial strategy, as KMac has shown.
“GET IT?”
Yes, in spite of your obscure religious ranting, I get it. But whether the people we refer to as “jews” are the “true Jews” (whatever that means) is, in fact, completely immaterial. We don’t dislike jews because of who they are, we dislike them for what they do, and how they harm us. It would be no different if we were talking about Chinese, Africans, or Indians.
“What law? I am sure it had to do with the BAN on usury contained in their religious moral code that motivated them.”
Are you aware that only 38% of Iceland’s population believes in God? That’s one of the lowest in Europe. It’s every bit as secular and anti-religious as the rest of Europe is. Your claim that Iceland threw out the Jewish bankers due to some Christian belief doesn’t hold much water.
“Jesus was not a “Jew”,
Is that why the new testament refers to him as the king of the jews?
“If people follow your lead- the “Jews” are evil so we need to be more “evil”- you and they are freakin doomed! ”
Jews aren’t evil, they’re strong and willfull. Don’t confuse the two. If we were half as “evil” as they are we wouldn’t have any problems controlling our own race.
@Heather Blue:
Heather, I appreciate your voice, but to be fair, the Church did speak out and loudly against the Godless Communists.
@buckle:
I believe it was Mickey who posts from Great Britain.
“. . .nor by beating off allies or potential allies, for the pleasure of. . .”
A. T.
@Flynn Korbl:
Flynn;
Thanks for the link, I never knew about Nixon’s comments regarding the Jews
(or I forgot- it has been a long time!). But regarding your comment: “Clearly Tricky Dick was probably the last President that really had an inkling of what Jewry is really up to.”
You could certainly be right of course, but I find it hard to accept that none of the men who have been president of this country since Richard Nixon’s time were or are unaware of what Jewry is up to. To get to the offal office one must sell out to the elite. No one makes it into the club without being vetted first. Rogue’s die (John F. Kennedy). Any man who sells out undoubtedly knows who he is selling himself to and for what in exchange. It seems to follow such an individual must at least notice that Jews seem to occupy positions of power at all levels of government and industry. How could he be unaware of what the rest of us here are aware of-?I am personally sure that Ronald Reagan had to know since he worked among Jews for so many years in the film industry.
@Richard Pierce:
Yet another promising discussion of how Jewish Hollywood is trying to rewrite the history of the financial crisis of 2008 with their Hollywood movies has been – yet again – turned into a platform for the Judeo-Christians to try promote their religion.
(I don’t know anyone on T.O.O. who is a “Judeo Christian.”
A while back, under a different thread, I think you mentioned that the only reason you attack Christianity is because others bring up the issue or try to promote it (or something like that.)
But in the “A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words” thread here on T.O.O., nobody was really talking about Christianity, yet you chose to bring it up and attack it.
Maybe some of your criticisms are valid. I don’t know. I think having honest criticism and skepticism can be healthy in the right context.
Richard got to talk about mastrubation again
I don’t think I was “talking about” it. I did happen to use the word, though.
Here is what I wrote:
I remember another Kevin Spacey movie I saw a while back, American Beauty. The dad (Spacey) starts smoking pot, and lusting after his high school daughter’s friend, a cheerleader. And there is a sex scene where his wife cheats on him.
He (Spacey’s character) also mentions how masturbating in the shower is the best part of his day.
Hopefully others will see that the same people who promote anti-White attitudes also make light of (and sort of promote/glamorize) all kinds of sexual behavior.
If I’m wrong for pointing that out, I hope others will forgive me. I know my comments aren’t perfect.
@fender:
“Jews aren’t evil, they’re strong and willfull. Don’t confuse the two. If we were half as “evil” as they are we wouldn’t have any problems controlling our own race.”
– Well said, Fender!
@Athanasius:
@buckle:
@Alice Teller:
What’s the matter with you three? It seems that every time I return after trying to get a few hours of sleep, I find you have begun picking fights with geniuses like Random and Pierce, not to mention the guy who doesn’t realize that Mormons own the Vatican and Andaman Islanders own the Mormons. Won’t you ever understand how much they have to teach us all?!?
On the other hand, you get to quarrel with fender, who is a worthy opponent. Maybe I’m just jealous. Or maybe I should blame Edmund Connelly, whose film analyses seem to get everyone’s blood boiling. I’m waiting for him to review a really good movie, by the way; something like Pinocchio or Monsieur Vincent, neither of which, to the best of my knowledge, stars Kevin Spacey—who is a Vatican shill if ever there was one.
God bless you all. I hope that our fellow white folks prize you as much as I do.
@Mark White:
That was interesting to hear. Back in the ’70s when this “scandal” as they called it hit the Jewish controlled airwaves, those tapes being played on YouTube now were not available to the public.
Fender:
You said-
“Their “religious” arguments are designed to support their racial ones. Judaism is NOT a religion in the traditional sense, it’s a racial strategy, as KMac has shown.”
Answer-
Thank you for admitting they have a racial and religious argument. The religious strategy will come into play when they combine the 3 major corporate monolithic religions into a new one controlled by their race. Hence, one cannot defeat them with secular racial arguments- only religious arguments that cite the texts they say they follow which proves them racial imposters- get it?
You said-
“Are you aware that only 38% of Iceland’s population believes in God? That’s one of the lowest in Europe. It’s every bit as secular and anti-religious as the rest of Europe is. Your claim that Iceland threw out the Jewish bankers due to some Christian belief doesn’t hold much water.”
Answer-
If that was true then why does 85% call themselves Christian Lutherans? Do you reference yourself as a Christian sect even thought you don’t believe? If there is any claim that doesn’t hold water, it is yours. I do however acknowledge the racial component of their unity but unity cannot be achieved upon racial homogeny alone and atheism will NEVER defeat the “Jewish” religious and racial claims you already admitted they make that are central to their identity to themselves, the world, especially Christianity (whom outnumber you many fold).
You said-
“Is that why the new testament refers to him as the king of the jews?”
Answer-
If you reference the Greek texts that predate this “Jew” word nonsense that is only about 300-400 years old, you will see that is says JUDEAN (which means one from the tribe(s) of Judah or a citizen of Judea). This again is why “Jew” is a made up term. The “Jews” said they were “Judeans” in the Greek scripture which was true; much like a black man can live in England but his citizenship does not make him English.
You said-
“Jews aren’t evil, they’re strong and willfull. Don’t confuse the two. If we were half as “evil” as they are we wouldn’t have any problems controlling our own race.”
Answer-
Those who call themselves the Jews are indeed evil, but then again everyone has some evil in them. The problem comes in when their ACTIONS (such as being imposters trying to rule the planet based upon their race) are such that they seek to enslave all races to their tyrannical whim. The level of their evil is immense and I am sure this is why the Lord says that he hates Esau (“Jews”) but loves Jacob (Europeans-Christians)
@Heather Blue
Yes, it’s a start – a start at growing the power of the multi-racial, pro-immigration Catholic church, which is a strong institutional supporter of mass immigration of non-White Catholics into America. Voting for anti-White Obama or anti-White Romney pales in comparison to the anti-White policies of the Catholic church.
We could be reducing the future population of non-Whites in Africa and South America by giving out free condoms and abortions, but the Catholic church blocks us. Planned Parenthood does the Lord’s work in keeping down the population of the black underclass here – and the Catholics attack them for it. Africans in Ethiopia have been Christian longer than the Scandinavians, and the future growth of Christianity is likely to be among non-Whites, so the idea that Christendom is the same as White-dom is just flat out wrong. I believe the MAJORITY of Catholics are non-White.
The rock the church was built upon was a Jew named Simon Peter, according to Christ himself.
Why are you Catholics here preaching to us secular pro-Whites? Wouldn’t you be better off on some Catholic website trying to get them to stop attacking Whites and trying to replace us? Believe me – all of us secular people are fully aware of Christianity, Christian history, and I bet every last one of us has read the Bible. We’ve heard it ALL before.
Is there a single high leader of the Catholic Church in the US that has spoken out against Jewish Wall Street fraud? Is there a single Cardinal speaking against mass third world immigration to America? Is there a single Church leader speaking openly in the interest of Whites?
No, there isn’t. So you are speaking to the WRONG audience. Get it? Didn’t Jesus say take out the beam in your own eye before poking at specks in others? Go fix your anti-White Catholic church first.
@Alice
Right back at you Alice.
@George
The last President to resist Jewish power was George H. W. Bush. He was defeated by a media campaign attacking his economic policies and allowing a third party candidate on the air for the first time ever, thus splitting his vote and giving it to Clinton who promptly filled up his cabinet with Jews and blacks.
@fender
Stay strong brother, you’re doing Odin’s work! (lol)
A general question for the Christians here: would you prefer to live in a Christian multicultural nation or a White nation where Christianity is illegal? And please don’t answer “a White Christian nation;” choose one or the other.
And before you ask me would I rather live in a White Christian nation or a multicultural non-Christian nation, I’d choose the White Christian nation. I wouldn’t like it as much as a White nation whose people are guided by either the Greek or Norse Gods, but I’d take it over a multicultural melting pot (read: chamber pot) any day.
@Richard Pierce:
You can continue to make all the unfounded allegations that you want, this is, after all, the internet. If you note, although fender and I have strong disagreements, I have always addressed him with as much grace as I can muster. I respect his integrity, intelligence and devotion to white people. I cannot say the same of you. You do not deserve our time or attention.
@fender:
I would choose your non-Christan white world, provided I were permitted to worship privately as I choose.
@fender:
let go of the Aryan nonsense. If you were an Aryan, you would be climbing the ladder of wealth, power and help your fellow whites.
How many millions, billions have you accumulated. What matters is resourcefulness not screaming “I am Aryan” every 2 seconds.
@Alice Teller:
The problem I have with Aryan rhetoric is that its only used to produce weak screams.
When it comes to Action, all this Aryan bravado fizzles out.
We need capable, resourceful people who can compete for power, wealth, media ownership with Jews and win.
We must have clear goals. Ex: total stop to 3rd world immigration. Abolish federal reserve, end “free trade” by slapping 50% tariffs, cut taxes to make housing affordable for young white families. Raise taxes on hedge fund elite and hollywood.
Clear goals and strong action.
@Richard Pierce:
That pretty much sums it up. Christians, whether Protestant or Catholic, can’t point out a single good thing about their sick, judaic religion. They are working against us in every way they can, but then they turn around and claim to be on our side. They have certainly learned the concept of chutzpah well from the jews they worship.
@Random:
I’m probably not the best person to defend Christianity or respond to your comment.
I’ll offer something, though.
You wrote:
Christians, whether Protestant or Catholic, can’t point out a single good thing about their sick, judaic religion.
I’ll merely copy and paste something I wrote earlier today in a comment above.
One of the best things about Christianity is that it encourages its followers to transcend their fear of death and their own selfish lives, to live for something bigger than themselves or even their own families. Not only does that way of living bring peace and a sense of fulfillment, it also happens to be very useful for this pro-White movement.
Right now, a person will not gain much (in terms of money or status) for being openly pro-White. And so the transformative power of Christianity (to forsake selfish living) is very useful for this movement.
And according to trustworthy people who know more than I do, most of the large White families happen to be Christian.
I know the discussion of Christianity under these threads bothers some people, which is understandable, and I didn’t come to this thread to discuss Christianity, but since it is already being discussed (and attacked) I figured I would offer some small defense.
Having said that, I understand some of the concerns put forth by non-Christians (or anti-Christians, I’m not sure what the most appropriate term is.)
The Jews are evil, but let me qualify that. Max the tailor, the guy who has the little shop on the corner, is not the problem. The bad guys run the universities, run the financial system, run the media….and they are most DEFINITELY anti-white. They know EXACTLY what they are doing. For instance, I’ve had ballsy jews tell me that I can’t blame them for the massive third world immigration because that good Catholic Ted Kennedy is the little bitch who did the deed. See, as KM astutely notes, the Jews always use some dumb goy as a front man when some dirty work needs to be done. Clinton is another great example. He studied under Carroll Quigley, and Quigley was an EXPERT on the infrastructure of Jewish power. Clinton of course knew EXACTLY where the money and power was located and he sucked up to it to become the front man. Hell, Clinton did away with Glass-Steagall! If not for the big WASPS selling us out to the Jews (as Nixon saw long ago) we would still be on top. Fact is, and David Duke repeats this often, the Jews are a tiny minority of 2%. If the stupid goy would STAND UP AND FIGHT, there would be no contest as to who would win. But we’d better do it soon, because once we become the minority, we are TOAST.
So, people still go to movies? LOL.
Soylent Green – now there’s a movie with jewish under-and-overtones that went completely unnoticed by me the first couple of times I saw it (mid 70s). I watched it again a few years ago and…OMFG.
Of course, Charlton Heston was one of the jews’ biggest headliners. Talk about whoring oneself out, LOL.
@Pierre de Craon: Just to be clear, I enjoy Leone’s spaghetti westerns, too, but it’s OUATIA to which I’m referring in this instance. The unabridged version of same, which I have seen many times, and to which “Lombard” refers, is available here I believe:
http://is.gd/VZa7cl
On the New Zealand film, no. Duly earmarked for attention, thanks.
Remember, Sanjay is half-Indian, that’s probably why he gets uncomfortable with the Aryan talk. You’ll notice that the subject of this post – the film Margin Call – doesn’t portray the bankers as a bunch of Christians, it portrays them as Aryans. They aren’t attacking Christianity, they are attacking our race.
@Random
Before the Christians showed up demanding we all follow their religion, my comments were measured and simply pointed out that due to universalism Christianity isn’t likely to be enough of an organizing principle to fight Jewish ethnocentrism. But simply passing on “restoring our Christian heritage” is enough for them to claim we are simply ignorant of the hidden “pro-whiteness” in Christianity. It’s the “no true Scotsman” fallacy – “true Christianity” is really pro-White, nevermind the facts – like the fact that the majority of blacks and mestizos in America are Christian, and that just about every single Christian organization in America is “anti-racist” and pro-immigration.
Maybe the problem is that Christianity isn’t pro-White – it’s just anti-Jewish. It’s the mirror image of Judaism. If Judaism is ethno-centric, Christianity is universalist. If Judaism has strong in group vs. out group tendencies, Christianity is “Jews and Greeks equal in Christ Jesus.” That may have worked to protect Europeans from Jews in the past, but in the multi-racial reality today, it’s a liability not an asset. Anti-Jew isn’t enough, we need to be pro-White.
@Bear: Agreed, but part of the problem is that not all Jews are united on the wrong side of any given argument. Case in point:
http://jpfo.org/
A particular argument made by some Jews doesn’t deserve rejection by Gentiles reflexively. In the broader scheme of things, the anti-gun Jewish lobbies far out-guns their toting brethren. Roberts is no doubt sympathetic to what some Jews say, hence unwilling to tar all with the same brush. He’s been fairly explicit in accusing Israel as the commissioner and part-executor of 9/11, and he must have felt heat for that.
@Julian Curtis Lee:
You’re very observant. We’re being programmed on every level of the mind.
Fender-
First, there is no such thing as a multicultural Christian nation. Christianity is a culture, the law, ways and norms of the individual and corporate entities that make up a society of the nation.
Second- would I live in a white nation that outlawed Christianity? I wouldn’t like it but I would if it meant that I could help bring those white people and nation back to their source;their Creator/Savior so they might enjoy the blessings of dominion and fruitfulness via their birthright as the rightful bride they are to be to their husband, Christ Jesus.
Hope that answers your question.
@Sanjay:
One of the primary strategies the jewish parasite uses when attempting to hijack a host nation is to destroy its sense of collective identity and atomize the society. Marxism has accomplished this with extreme success in modern Western Civilization, our sense of peoplehood has been almost completely eradicated.
Most Europeans are completely ignorant of the fact that they are heirs to a glorious history, spanning several millennia and encompassing many civilizations. The accomplishments of Aryan man tower above the rest of mankind! Unfortunately modern Aryans aren’t even aware that they belong to this subspecies, and that our kind are engaged the greatest crisis they have ever faced. How is re-establishing our Aryan identity detrimental to resisting the fate our hereditary enemy is planning for us?
@buckle
“If you stand up to them as medieval Catholic Europe did their control is arrested. Ah, medieval Europe, when Europe was Catholic”
The Catholic Church gave Jews the monopoly on banking.
The Jewish monopoly on banking created a 1000 year deflation and medieaval Europe only crawled out of the mud of that deflation when the Jews were expelled and Europeans got back control of their own money supply.
The newly Protestant countries eventually let them back in again 300 years later so they weren’t any better but the idea that the Jews were somehow contained by the Catholic Church is total nonsense.
@Anti-White Narrative In Film: Thanks for alerting me to Gentleman’s Agreement. It’s available via torrents, here:
http://is.gd/gn0eB0
@Richard Pierce:
Before the Christians showed up demanding we all follow their religion, my comments were measured and simply pointed out that due to universalism Christianity isn’t likely to be enough of an organizing principle to fight Jewish ethnocentrism.
You’ve mentioned my name before, in at least a couple different comments (about Christianity.)
So I’m not sure if you are accusing me personally of demanding that other people follow Christianity. Actually I can’t recall any person on T.O.O. demanding that others follow Christianity.
(I’m not assuming that you were accusing me of demanding that.)
I don’t think Christianity works that way; it can’t be forced on another person.
But I don’t think that means Christians must never mention their beliefs or their values or their heritage, or how those things are related to their love for White people or the issues being discussed on T.O.O.; especially when other people are disparaging their beliefs or setting up apparent straw man versions of Christianity.
Regarding Sanjay, you wrote:
Remember, Sanjay is half-Indian, that’s probably why he gets uncomfortable with the Aryan talk.
I’m not Indian, and I related to what Sanjay was saying. (Although I don’t think that Fender was necessarily displaying what he (Sanjay) called “Aryan nonsense” or “Aryan bravado.”)
Even though I could relate to what Sanjay was saying, I admit to being ignorant of what Hyperborean writes about in his comment here(@Hyperborean: ) about how great Aryan history is. There are many, many, many things I don’t know, and that is one of them.
My point is, Sanjay’s desire to move beyond “Aryan bravado” is not necessarily because he is half-Indian.
One of the reasons I’m defending Sanjay is because he writes really good comments — very clear, direct, and useful. For several months I’ve wanted to thank him. I think it’s great that he comes here to try to help. He seems to genuinely love and care about the future of White people, regardless of whether he receives pats on the back from others. That is admirable.
I’m not saying that you, Richard Pierce, should not bring up Sanjay’s Indian background. I’m just trying to help… all of us… somehow.
I might sound preachy sometimes, and if that is the case, and if that is wrong, then I’m sincerely sorry. (I hope the “if’s” in my previous sentence do not disqualify it as a real apology.)
Alice, thanks for the info.
Richard Pierce, whether anyone likes it or not Christianity is our cultural religion. It is not the religion of Jews or Arabs or Asians. No nation has built a high culture on Christianity except Whites. Certainly, there are countries with Christian populations, but their cultures seem to have existed before Christianity.
Anybody can be baptized and take holy communion, but it takes more than that to build an entire culture based on the Christian concepts of honesty and integrity. What would western science be without it?
The point is we must support all of our traditions. It is futile, in my opinion, to believe we can accept only bits and pieces of our traditions. I don’t believe we can survive that way. It’s all or nothing. Both the individual and the Church should understand that certain laws cannot be broken. For example, loyalty to our race and culture, unity, unstinting support, all of us being on the same page… When it comes to survival breaking one of these laws breaks all of them.
@Luke: That was an extremely astute observation about Mel Gibson’s first, “Lethal Weapon” character Luke. Look also at his superb portrayal of the avenging kilt swinging heathen in Braveheart or the role he played in ‘The Patriot’. Jews fear the strong angry White man for very good reason; for thousands of years it was the dangerous White males, (think Vladimir Putin) in every country they settled who expelled and in many cases murdered by them after once again they went too far. It seems to me they are destined to do this until the end of time.
For example, I’d lay London to a Brick Jews are behind the curtain in the recent Syrian massacre of over 100 civilians of which over 30 were children (there’s your clue) because if Syria is invaded, Iran is obliged to come to Syria’s assistance militarily by way of a mutual defense treaty.
So once again, the cunning as an outhouse rat, Jew tricks the hapless Caucasian into another war for Israel. America and the West is stuffed unless we somehow get shod of this vicious tribe of baby killing shysters. If Americans by some spectacular miracle actually get to elect Ron Paul, he’d stop aid to Israel and bring home the troops, but as we all know Jews would find a way of assassinating him just as we know they’ll use their press and media weapon to put the blame elsewhere. What will it take for angry White men in America’s senior military ranks to wake up and take over?
@Pierre de Craon: Hopefully one day Muggeridge’s Winter in Moscow is brought to the big screen by Icon Productions Co. That’ll be a director’s cut that to see.
@anon:
It’s Kevin Macdonald who makes the claim not me.
@anon:
The Catholic Church gave Jews the monopoly on banking.
I am glad to see that American protestants have taken it back together with your film industry, TV, newspapers, foreign policy etc …
@fender:
Christian multicultural nation
Is a contradiction in terms. As for a “white nation where Christianity is banned”, we survived the Roman Empire. The emperors have gone but the Pope is still there after 2000 years and will be there for the next 2000. As for the prospects of a start-up nation like the USA and its “funny money”, I shall defer to your superior knowledge of the subject.
@Alice Teller:
Alice – I didn’t mean that statement about the fat wife in the way that you took it. But it could be my fault for your interpretation. Sorry about that.
If my wife became fat I would still love her no different, and this I am sure is the same for the vast majority of people. I can also easily imagine falling in love with an overweight girl. This matter has nothing to do with weight of women.
What I meant to say to fender, was that to say something like that to someone about their wife would be totally unacceptable to that person. It would not be well receivced at all, and would cause a lot of damage to the relationship you had with that person.
It’s the same with respect to talking against Christianity to a Christian. There’s no point in it in my view, at this particular time in our struggle. Right now the central issue is how do we find a way to pull together.
I don’t just mean here in these comments. I mean in all of society. But these comments reflect some of the challenges faced in accomplishing that. Bearing in mind everything has to happen in the presence of a currently much more powerful, sophisticated and organized enemy with much more control over media.
@Mickey Meadows:
No worries Mickey. In truth, I agree that it should not be a primary concern. I may be wrong but it seems to me that it is generally true that Christianity is raised only when someone attacks it. As you know, I am in favor of making allies, but I, and all of us, have already ceded far too much ground. Unless and until Kevin MacDonald announces that Christians are not welcome here, I intend to stand my ground. The sheer stupidity of reducing Christianity to the primary cause of our plight does make me lose patience.
Thanks for the to Monty Python. I think that you have put your finger on the issue that comes closest to winning the prize as the single cause of our downfall. We completely underestimated the power of the new media of TV. Once it was controlled by Jews, it was simply a question of fifty years of simmering the frogs.
We still have many strengths that we take for granted. The game isn’t lost yet. You keep trying to appeal to our better natures.
All the debate over Christianity is quite interesting. We have the Christian trads versus the Rad trads.
Instead of trying to convert each other, just have two branches of the WN movement. The Christian trads should form WN churches. What’s stopping you? Make a home study seminary school, learn Greek and Latin and read the classics along with the Bible, and become Folk Pastors. Heck, look at all the black “reverends.” What’s stopping you, for heaven’s sake? Maybe some of the Rad trads would go to your church just to hang out with other WN’s. Ever heard of “home churches.” There’s zillions of ‘em. Don’t apply for non-profit status and then you’ll have total freedom of conscience, like Chuck Baldwin’s church in Kalispell Montana. In fact, that’s an excellent model for the WN home church movement.
Maybe you can show an alternative to the “save the Africans” churches. Maybe WN Christianity would go viral, and force megachurches to get with the times and look at their Bibles again and see the story of Phineas and say, “I guess the old time religion was right after all.”
Quit debating and start doing, if Christianity is so great. Start home churches, proselytize to existing Christians to steal them from their megachurches.
Heck, regular religious practice of some sort, whether it’s Christianity, Radical Traditionalism, or even perhaps a new branch of Witchcraft, may be a better way for WN’s to socialize, instead of BBQ’s and brewskis in state parks and the like. James Howard Kunstler’s CFN blog this week at kunstler.com describes a White religious cult in upstate NY. It sounds like they made a very successful religion out of implicit Whiteness. Here’s the link:
http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/05/ponzis-end.html
@Trenchant:
Thanks for the link to A gentleman’ agreement. I urge all who watch it to note that it starred the one man in Hollywood who personified dignity. There were plenty of Jewish actors available, but oddly, none were cast in this role. I also urge all who watch it to contrast it with the demeanor of the true Jews in the video provided on the other link.
For the literate among us, I heartily recommend Edith Wharton’s The House of Mirth, as a wonderful illustration of our fall, and the view our ancestors had of Jews until quite recently.
@Sanjay:
Well said. I noticed that Ross Perot made a memorial day address to Vets. It started me dreaming of getting his money behind Rand Paul’s career. That would be a the right direction.
@Trenchant: I must apologize to you. Because of various private matters, I’ve had less than ten hours’ sleep all week, and the strain is affecting more than my typing. Despite the plain English in which you and others wrote, I kept confusing OUATIA and OUATITW. It is only the latter that I’ve seen at all. As someone else used to say, “Never mind.” Henceforward I’ll stick to Aristotle and Weaver and others whom I seldom confuse with Sergio Leone.
Floda
Previous to this post I had cited legalities and treaties that prove the unholy trinty (Vatican/London/DC-UNITED STATES Corps) and how the so called “Jews” run it and America.
If Paul becomes President the first thing he needs to do is uninorporate the UNITED STATES an desolve it completely. This will allow those in Government to walk over to the still in tact united States of America or Articles of Confederation Government(s) along with the states. The real Article 13 is still in place which strips American citizenship from anyone who has titles of nobilties or works for the above structure in any way shape or form. This move alone would destroy any pretense of validity they might claim, making criminals of all of our enemies in America with one stroke of the pen. If such an event would happen, we could then concentrate on rounding up the unlawful entities within our midst and kicking them out of our nation. Common law would be instituted so all of our European American brethern in prison for breaking fictional legalities would be let loose increasing our numbers. Suddenly, Americans would have their God given rights back and Christian Common/Natural law would be recognized as the law of the land again. We would be able, after kicking out the traitors, to take on the mass invasion of 3rd worlders and/or any other criminal entities that are on our land.
In my estimation, this is our only hope we have at such a late stage in the game. Let’s pray to the Creator/Savior (Jesus Christ) that he has mercy and grace upon us- that it be his will to be done because if not, we will surely pass away something akin to how Carthage was destroyed.
@Richard Pierce:
I am not at all bothered by the word “Aryan” per se. Actually in Sanskrit, its called “Arya” not Aryan. What irks me is weak screams claiming aryan-ship, yet doing little to achieve clear goals.
But wrt your “Christianity is too universal, inadequate or even destructive principle of organizing Whites” is not smart.
1) Vast majority of Whites are at least nominally Christian. What will you do if you find a White christian wife who wants to have babies and raise family with you? Ask her to convert to “Aryanism”?
2) Christianity is Universal, because Christ was universal and love is universal. Also, Christianity did not prevent Crypto-Jews or conversos in 14th Cen. Spain to maintain genetic continuity. Because they erected other barriers.
Same strategy applies for Whites. Why can’t we be universal Christians and still maintain our ethnic uniqueness by following our European music, art, literature, dance, drinks, food, dress, high culture? We can easily harmonize our Christian universalism with European White particularism. What we need is a bit of self confidence and determination. In a natural way.
And as for “every single Christian organization in America is “anti-racist” and pro-immigration.” It is we who let it happen. In last 2 years I attended several churches with my wife. And in church gatherings we vigorously promote immigration freeze. Initially there was resistance, but now everyone agrees and promotes. Its called activism. You can do it too. Just go the Church and smartly articulate why we need to protect and advance children of Japeth against immigrant invasion. Why America needs freeze in the face of 22% unemployment, 17Trillion debt, welfare State, falling wages, crushed workers.
@Hyperborean:
You cannot reestablish Aryan identity from thin Air. You need energy, devotion, resources. And rejecting Christianity will remove a large pool of white Christians for marriage and community organization.
if “Aryan” subset of WN community had very high birth rates (like Early puritans, Mormons) then what you say is doable. But WN are not fertile at all. Many are single men, divorcees, total failures in personal life.
You need a highly fertile WN community to build White solidarity, and historically only religion has led to high fertility. besides, its no use gloating on historic laurels. You must prove yourself in every generation, every epoch.
@Richard:
I am with you. Thx.
@Alice Teller:
Good point. Now here are two Whites who have the energy, drive, resources, experience to make a splash. Granted they are not explicit WN yet, but they have the potential to shake things nationally and pursue real actionable goals with clearly defined end points.
This is what WN need. Energy, Wealth, Power, Scholarship, Ability. And once you have that, you can make a difference.
Look at KMac, Buchanan, Brimelow, Mearsheimer, Lindberg, Henry Ford, Ezra Pound. At least they made a mark, we need more like them. Not someone screaming “I am Aryan, look at my glorious history” and its just pitiful background noise, lost in nanosecond.
@Sanjay
Yes, most Whites are nominally Christian, one reason why Christianity is completely irrelevant to our cause. It makes zero difference if someone is a Christian or not, because their nominal religious beliefs are meaningless in any practical sense. My only objection is the Christian harpies and eunuchs constantly dragging their nominal religious beliefs into every discussion and expecting everyone to cater to their overactive fantasy life.
Pro-White Christians will simply ignore the anti-White aspects of Christianity, just like blacks and mestizos will ignore the European aspects of Christianity. I don’t suggest anyone convert, because they will simply ignore the parts of their fantasy they don’t particularly fancy at the time. Hypocrisy and religion go hand in hand to all but the most fanatic.
Christianity is the religion of women and slaves, and it’s no wonder that the most pro-Christian posters here are women, eunuchs, and (ostensibly) male cat fanciers. Let the ladies have their Jesus, one only hopes they will heed the words of Paul and remain silent.
Your arguments about high birthrates are a red herring; Jews for instance are a minority yet wield far more power than their numbers would suggest. There are far more Chinese than Whites, yet the US is still the superpower. It’s Christians that promote high birthrates among non-Whites.
Your insults to European/Aryan men come from an obvious place, you, as a non-White man, want to belittle the masculinity of Whites/Aryans, presumably because your Indian men have been on the losing end of Aryan dominance for so long. You acknowledged your own racial inferiority when you married a White woman, and proudly brag you are “whitening up” your issue.
I really think I’ve said my peace on this topic.
Richard:
You say-
Yes, most Whites are nominally Christian, one reason why Christianity is completely irrelevant to our cause. It makes zero difference if someone is a Christian or not, because their nominal religious beliefs are meaningless in any practical sense. My only objection is the Christian harpies and eunuchs constantly dragging their nominal religious beliefs into every discussion and expecting everyone to cater to their overactive fantasy life.
“Pro-White Christians will simply ignore the anti-White aspects of Christianity, just like blacks and mestizos will ignore the European aspects of Christianity. I don’t suggest anyone convert, because they will simply ignore the parts of their fantasy they don’t particularly fancy at the time. Hypocrisy and religion go hand in hand to all but the most fanatic.”
Really? Why don’t you test your theory and try my Christan position on for size?
@Richard:
So why don’t we observe this in practice? The reality is that the vast majority of pro-White leaders over the past 100 years have been non-Christians. You can also have a belief in some sort of afterlife or reincarnation without Christianity.
It’s interesting that I asked you to point out something good about Christianity, and you gave me a hypothetical. Everything we see the churches actually doing is a negative for us.
@Richard Pierce:
I want to respond to your comment, so I have included some of your qotes.
You wrote:
The definition of eunuch is “castrated man”.
As far as I know, there are no eunuchs who visit T.O.O. I don’t think you actually believe that anyone here is a eunuch, though.
I don’t think that is the first time that you have written something untrue.
Regarding the “harpies” comment: I think it’s possible or maybe likely that you are projecting some of your own qualities onto other people’s comments. If you are referring to Mrs. Teller, she seems like one of the most level-headed, wise women I’ve encountered, far from a “harpy”. She, like every human being, is imperfect, though.
Most people are hypocritical in some way.
Since you bring up the issue of hypocrisy, I want to share an example of your own apparent hypocrisy.
Over the past week, in your comments toward Sanjay, you brought up his personal life in order to dismiss some of the things that he writes.
But a couple weeks ago, you wrote the following:
Sound familiar? Jews also use the same tactic, and use personal ad homineum to respond to any criticism…
Maybe that isn’t a great example of hypocrisy, but I have sensed that you have been hypocritical before. Maybe “hypocritical” is not the most accurate word. (I’ve mentioned in the past that I’m not great with words.)
I don’t bring up Christianity much, unless someone like you is unjustly attacking it. (Some of your criticisms are probably valid, though.) I did not plan on responding to your attacks on Christianity until you started bringing me into your comments.
I do write about chastity of body and mind sometimes. My definition of chastity is that sex is sacred, and for procreation. My belief does not come from the Bible or any Christian denomination. Actually I don’t know if any denomination (or the Bible) supports my belief; from what little I know, most denominations allow some form of recreational sex, even if they don’t call it that.
Anyway, my love and support for the virtue of chastity (of body and mind) is not necessarily a “religious belief”. I believe that it is an integral part of a healthy White society of beautiful people, beautiful on the outside and inside.
Having said all that, I can understand where you are coming from, even if I object to the tone of your comment, and the way you sometimes frame people and their beliefs.
I think the majority of people who would go to a movie called Margin Call are sophisticated enough to know who really was behind this banking scam. You will not see this on the MSM for obvious reasons but the internet as the above review shows the truth.
@Tyron Parsons:
Vatican – City of London stuff is foolish. Ridiculous.
Edmund Connelly: Great article for nailing this issue down. Jews took over Wall Street from wasps in the 1970s. Malcolm Gladwell has written a chapter about it in “outliers” a very popular book out there which talks about Jew Joe Flom who moved the takeover game from penny stocks to the big leagues. Well done~!
I think the comments section should have a rule of relevance. All the off topic posts are a big distraction from having a structured conversation with cogent commentary. Instead we get a lot of goofiness like the Vatican controlling the USA via the City of London a preposterous assertion with no evidence that is as big of a distraction as it is a slander.
@Random:
You omitted the part of my comment about how most of the large White families happen to be Christian.
I don’t know if that’s totally true, even though I can understand and resonate with your frustration. I’m not an expert on the issue of Christianity or how it relates to the pro-White cause. In my comment, the one you responded to, I just offered something off the top of my head.
Like I mentioned, I’m probably not the best person to try to defend Christianity or respond to your comments.
I understand people’s concerns and criticisms of Christianity and its relationship to the pro-White movement, at least I think I do.
I agree.
And I agree with Kievsky in his comment here (@Kievsky: ) that we can have both Christian and non-Christians in a White state. If the Christians or non-Christians want to separate themselves within the state, that is okay too.
I hope this is my last comment under this thread. I don’t enjoy writing these, because I want to be respectful to Mr. Connelly and other other T.O.O. readers and commenters. But when people attack Christianity or bring me into their comments, I feel a need to offer some kind of response.
(I’m not sure I’d call your comments an “attack”, Random.)
I’m not opposed to civil discussions and criticisms regarding Christianity and the churches, etc. (I’m not suggesting that you, Random, have been uncivil in your comments.)
I’ll add a few thoughts on Christianity, addressing some of the issues that I have seen other commenters bring up.
Just because millions of Americans call themselves Christians does not mean they take it seriously or live differently than non-Christians.
I don’t think driving to a church building and sitting there for an hour makes a person good or holy. But I’m not opposed to church-going or prayer-saying or Bible-reading, even though I don’t really do much of those things myself.
Another T.O.O. commenter mentioned his hesitancy to refer to himself as a Christian because of all the stereotypes and reactions to the word. I understand what he means.
I hope others will forgive me if any forgiveness is necessary. Sometimes I think that we all need forgiveness in every moment.
@fender: would you prefer to live in a Christian multicultural nation
Like the Spanish Empire? Or the Russian Empire? Or the Byzantine Empire?
or a White nation where Christianity is illegal?
Like Enver Hoxha’s Albania, Hashim Thaci’s Kosovo, or Bela Kun’s Hungary?
I think I’ll take the former.
Anty Ep
“Vatican – City of London stuff is foolish. Ridiculous.”
Yes, how foolish, I mean sheesh- how could one ever think such a thing when they have owned the the City of London Corp since 1215 and by proxie DC-United State Corp since 1871. How could one be so foolish as to cite legal codes, acts and treaties that name them as th owners. How foolish to ever point out the power of an organization that sits atop all Protestant Christian Corporation (501c3) orgs and has over 1 BILLION members members world wide (1/6th the pop. of the planet). To think such an organization has any type of global power is the height of “foolishness”..ya right..wink wink
I direct you Anty to the legal and treaty citations listed in my above posts. I have checked them out and they are indeed real.
@Tyron Parsons:
“The religious strategy will come into play when they combine the 3 major corporate monolithic religions into a new one controlled by their race.”
They have no such plans. They don’t dominate through religion, they dominate through finance and media. They do this because of their ethnic cohesion, not their religious beliefs. Most of the Jewish bolsheviks were atheists but they were every bit as Jewish as the orthodox nutjobs are.
“Hence, one cannot defeat them with secular racial arguments- only religious arguments that cite the texts they say they follow which proves them racial imposters- get it?”
Racial arguments are the only real arguments because this is a racial and evolutionary struggle, not a competition of deities. Have you actually read Kevin MacDonald’s work?
“If that was true then why does 85% call themselves Christian Lutherans?”
Just because someone was raised Christian doesn’t make them believers. I’m a confirmed catholic but you don’t see much religious rhetoric coming from me, do you?
” racial homogeny alone and atheism will NEVER defeat the “Jewish” religious and racial claims”
Cohesion + intelligence + aggression = the winner in any tribal struggle.
“If you reference the Greek texts that predate this “Jew” word nonsense that is only about 300-400 years old, you will see that is says JUDEAN (which means one from the tribe(s) of Judah or a citizen of Judea). This again is why “Jew” is a made up term.”
Every term is a “made up” term. What’s your point? And again, whether today’s Jews are the “true” Jews or not is completely immaterial.
“I am sure this is why the Lord says that he hates Esau (“Jews”) but loves Jacob (Europeans-Christians)”
Not that it matters, but where did he say this?
@Alice Teller:
If you were referring to Gregory Peck, he does not play a Jewish character in the movie; he plays a Gentile writer who pretends to be Jewish, in order to write a story about anti-Semitism. The real Jewish character is played by John Garfield– a real Jew! The movie was made by 20th Century-Fox– which was then the one major Hollywood studio that was run by a Gentile, Darryl F. Zanuck. Likewise, the film was directed by the soon-to-be-notorious (and still controversial) Elia Kazan, who was an ethnic Greek, born in Constantinople, when it was still known as such and still the capital of the Ottoman Empire. The screenplay, however, was written by Moss Hart, who was Jewish, and who was also the husband of the famous television-game-show panelist, Kitty Carlisle. The authoress of the novel, Laura Z. Hobson, was also Jewish (Hobson being her married name). She was the daughter of immigrant socialists, and Garfield (ne Garfinkle) and Kazan were both well known for their own left-wing political beliefs– even though Kazan is often best remembered for naming names for HUAC, while Garfield refused to do so!
@D. K.:
I am dazzled by your superior knowledge. I was, indeed, referring to Gregory Peck. I confess that the only thing I remember about the film, which I saw back before the flood, was the absurdity of Peck as a Jew, real or pretend. Thanks for the correction.
@D. K.: I find it hard to believe that Zanuck wasn’t Jewish. I know he was supposedly Swiss…
As for Kazan, he was a shabbos goy if ever there was one. It’s hard comprehend–seeing as he came from Turkish occupied territory, and he DID have some degree of ethnic consciousness, helping Milton Katselas and John Cassavetes’ careers along (though Katselas was a loon, too). Still, despite the fact that he ‘named names’ he continued promulgating leftist nonsense till the end.
Another factor to consider… when “Gentleman’s Agreement” was made, Skouras was in charge of 20th Century Fox. Skouras seems to have been highly ethnically conscious (he built a massive Greek church in LA)–HE was responsible for many of the “wholesome” movies made in the 40′s and 50′s attributed by Ben Stein to grateful Jews. So whether Skouras wasn’t above board, whether he despite his power feared the Jews, or whether Zanuck still had carte blanche at 20th Century Fox despite Skouras being president–I don’t know.
@Anti-White Narrative In Film:
By the way, “Gentleman’s Agreement” and “Crossfire” were not made during the war, with their respective releases delayed until the second half of 1947. The novel “Gentleman’s Agreement” was not even published until early 1947! While the novel on which “Crossfire” was based, “The Brick Foxhole” by Richard Brooks (who went on to be a well-known film director himself), was published back in 1945, it was not a novel about anti-Semitism; it was about homosexuality! Since that theme was verboten under the existing Production Code, however, the 1947 film’s screenplay was written to make the victim Jewish, rather than homosexual.
@D. K.: So many posters on this site have been claiming that Hollywood isn’t “really” anti-Christian. They are apparently incapable of discerning subtle messages–e.g., always showing Catholic priests in a negative light, never showing normal families going to church, even panning out to a shot of icons during the scene where the Russians are torturing Scarlett Johanssen in “The Avengers.”
Well, now look a this: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/05/family-guy-ad-for-emmy-voters-targets-brentwood-jews/
Are you actually going to claim that “Family Guy” isn’t advancing the Jewish agenda? They publicly would say something like this PRECISELY because because it is clear the service they are doing to for the Jews by constantly mocking Whites and Christianity.
@Alice Teller:
Can you imagine Cary Grant…?!? Neither could he, apparently; so, he turned that role down. He did not make the most convincing Cole Porter, either, of course; but, that is another film (“Night and Day”) and another story…. :-)
@Tyron Parsons:
1871?
In 1871 the Pope lost his official residence, the Quirinal Palace (along with all the other papal territories) to the Italian state presumably in exchange for control of Washington D.C. Man, that was some trade.
Even I can look out my window here in Yorkshire, England and see land that was confiscated from the local monastery by Henry VIII at the reformation. An event which took place when the USA was still in the womb.
Do you own a passport? You need to get out more.
Fender:
You say:
“They have no such plans. They don’t dominate through religion, they dominate through finance and media. They do this because of their ethnic cohesion, not their religious beliefs. Most of the Jewish bolsheviks were atheists but they were every bit as Jewish as the orthodox nutjobs are.”
Answer:
Yea right, they don’t dominate through religion-only finance-media-race. Wake up! What do you think Christian Zionism is? This false interpretation of the Christian bible is infused within all mainstream Protestant Christian sects as well as Catholic sects. That is influencing over 1.5 BILLION PEOPLE.
You said:
“Racial arguments are the only real arguments because this is a racial and evolutionary struggle, not a competition of deities. Have you actually read Kevin MacDonald’s work?”
Answer:
“Yes, but your confusing K-Mac with God. K-Mac is indeed correct on many grounds but to think that the key to defeating the “Jews” does not lay within the combination of BOTH (AND PLEASE for God’s sake hear it this time) the religious and racial argument, is fantasy at best. Who outnumbers who? Atheists or Christians?- Christians obviously outnumber Atheists and probably by well over 1 BILLION. What kind of an argument do “Jews” make? Answer- a religious argument masquerading behind a tightly nit racial collective. They have made their race their religion and their religion their race- to ignore the religion side of their two pronged argument is being STUPID if you ever hope to disprove their claptrap…
You said-
“Just because someone was raised Christian doesn’t make them believers. I’m a confirmed catholic but you don’t see much religious rhetoric coming from me, do you?”
Answer:
No I do not hear any religious rhetoric from you BUT ANY DEAF MAN can hear it from the some 85% of Icelanders who claimed the Lutheran Christian religion as their belief system!
You said:
“Cohesion + intelligence + aggression = the winner in any tribal struggle.”
Answer:
tell that to the Esau “Jewish” remnant that had all 3 in spades yet found their entire paternal seedline (race) wiped off the face of the earth by the Roman legions who murdered all their men and raped all their women by 135 AD; thereby pushing these fake Jews to the sidelines for 1900 years.
You said:
“Every term is a “made up” term. What’s your point? And again, whether today’s Jews are the “true” Jews or not is completely immaterial.”
Answer:
Every term is a made up term? LMAO…I suppose that includes your entire comment above and every term you used when you wrote it- it must be madeup and completely immaterial- right? Or is this more of your double speak?
True or fake Jew/Israelite matters to over 1.5 billion Christian sect people. A healthy % of these people are of the European/white stock-nations making them also the majority of people within those nations easily outnumbering those who claim atheism as a belief system. If you think that is “irrelavent” then your hate for the creator and creationism has blinded you toward the goal you say you seek.
You said:
“Not that it matters, but where did he say this?”
Answer:
If it doesn’t matter why do you ask? Is it possible for you to drop your silly guard and be genuine, non hypocritical, not bias and without double speak for any measure of time? I hope so.
Reference-
Malachi
1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation forever.
*This was accomplished the first time via Rome in 135AD.
Romans 9:3-13.
*This was written just before the Romans slaughter of the Esau Fake Jews in 135AD.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
@Athanasius:
Kazan directed “On the Waterfront” which did show a priest in a good light and was written by a Jew. The priest in the movie was based on a real life Jesuit whom writer Schulberg described as the “finest man he’d ever met”.
Curiously, Fred Zimmerman directed the anti-McCarthy “High Noon” (which John Wayne disliked so much) but also “A Man for All Seasons” which is about as papist as its got these last 50 years. It can get very confusing when Jewish directors handle Christian subject matter very well. Wyler’s Ben Hur being a prime example.
You can see how these guys succeed in life!
@Athanasius:
Why exactly did you address this inquiry to me?!? I have not commented one way or the other on Hollywood’s anti-Christian and, particularly, anti-Catholic agenda!?! Shall I ask my priestly brother (who has known the last few popes, and who was a classmate, in Rome, of several current bishops, archbishops and cardinals) whether he agrees with you? I know that he saw “The Avengers” recently, in his Third World hometown, because he blogged about it. As for me, I actually remember the day that Scarlett was born; and, I am down on anyone who tortures her– even though she is Jewish! If that makes me a race traitor, so be it….
Tyron Parsons
“These entities are controlled by the City of London Corporation (Banker/Crown alliance). The City of London Corporation has been owned by the Vatican city Corporation since 1215.”
The city of London corporation may have ben owned by the Vatican from 1215 to the reign of Henry 8th. You seem to forget that all Catholic church property was confiscated in the 1530′s/ Furthermore, from the 1530′s to 1832 the Catholic Church was totally banned in England. For the first 200 years, enforcement was ferocious.
Even if it is true that the vatican owned the businessmen of London in medieval times, the arrangement could not have possibly survived300 years when the Catholic religion was banned in England.
I think you are confusing this conspiracy theory with the familiar theory that because DC was owned by John Carroll, founding Father, signer of the declaration of independence and financier of the revolution and a Catholic therefore the vatican owns DC and our goverment
Buckle;
“After defeating the papal army on 18 September 1860 at the Battle of Castelfidardo, and on 30 September at Ancona, Victor Emmanuel took all the Papal territories except Latium with Rome.[citation needed] In 1866 he granted Pius IX the Law of Guarantees (13 May 1871) which gave the Pope the use of the Vatican but denied him sovereignty over this territory, nevertheless granting him the right to send and receive ambassadors and a budget of 3.25 million liras annually. Pius IX officially rejected this offer (encyclical Ubi nos, 15 May 1871), retaining his claim to all the conquered territory.[citation needed]” -Wikipedia
And in 1871 the UNITED STATES Corporation was formed in DC- formerly the Virginia trading company. This Corporation is owned by the City of London Corp whom the Vatican has owned since King John the 1st in 1215.
The legal Dictionary notes “Conspiracies and revolutions (notably of 1831 and 1848–49) characterized the following decades. Pius IX Pius IX, 1792–1878, pope (1846–78), an Italian named Giovanni M. Mastai-Ferretti, b. Senigallia; successor of Gregory XVI. He was cardinal and bishop of Imola when elected pope was liberal at his accession and granted his states a constitution, but the events of 1848 turned him against the revolutionists. During the Risorgimento Risorgimento [Ital.,=resurgence], in 19th-century Italian history, period of cultural nationalism and of political activism, leading to unification of Italy. Only French intervention at Rome prevented the total absorption of the Papal States. After the Austrians left (1859) Bologna and the Romagna, both united (1860) with the kingdom of Sardinia, as did Marche and Umbria. Giuseppe Garibaldi Garibaldi, Giuseppe , 1807–82, Italian patriot and soldier, a leading figure in the Risorgimento. He remains perhaps the most popular of all Italian heroes of the Risorgimento, and a great revolutionary hero in the Western world invaded the remaining Papal States twice but was prevented from taking Rome—in 1862 by the intervention of Victor Emmanuel II Victor Emmanuel II, 1820–78, king of Sardinia (1849–61) and first king of united Italy (1861–78). He fought in the war of 1848–49 against Austrian rule in Lombardy-Venetia and ascended the throne when his father, Charles Albert, abdicated of Italy, and in 1867 by Napoleon III Napoleon III (Louis Napoleon Bonaparte), 1808–73, emperor of the French (1852–70), son of Louis Bonaparte (see under Bonaparte, family), king of Holland.The fall of Napoleon permitted Victor Emmanuel to seize Rome in 1870. However, Pius IX refused to recognize the loss of temporal power and became a “prisoner” in the Vatican; his successors followed his example. The so-called Roman Question was only resolved in 1929 by the Lateran Treaty Lateran Treaty, concordat between the Holy See and the kingdom of Italy signed in 1929 in the Lateran Palace, Rome, by Cardinal Gasparri for Pius XI and by Benito Mussolini for Victor Emmanuel III , which, among other things, established Vatican City .Vatican City (Corporation) , independent state (2005 est. pop. 900), 108.7 acres (44 hectares), within the city of Rome, Italy, and the residence of the pope, who is its absolute ruler.
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@D. K.: My apologies. I didn’t mean to address those points in particular to you; I only replied to your post because mine was tangentially related.
@Richard Pierce:
Please go ahead try your strategy. Convert as many as you can to your views. Do what you can to save Whites. Good Luck
@Athanasius:
No harm, no foul! :-)
@Pierre de Craon: Rest up. There are malefactors out there with similar tastes to yours, so it would appear.
http://is.gd/nqvYc7
@Realist: No offense intended, sir, but you have innocently confused John Carroll, the first American bishop, with his brother Daniel, who was indeed a signer of the D of I. Daniel did not own all the territory that became the District of Columbia; his was but one of several farms that were ceded—without reservation and in perpetuity—to the United States for the creation of the new national capital. There was, as you yourself know of course, no such entity as Vatican City at that time, and there is no evidence whatsoever that he had legal, political, or even friendly private connections with figures in the Papal States. Even if he had, it is up to those who claim that some sort of secret protocol gave the then pope and his successors control of the Potomac swampland to provide documentation rather more credible than hyperlinks to sites run by lunatic anti-Catholic bigots.
Another Carroll signed the D of I, of course; he was the famous Charles Carroll of Carrollton, who later became one of Maryland’s first two U.S. senators. Not understanding what such brilliant men as Hadding Scott and Richard Pierce demand that all of us accept—that first concentrating and then wielding centralized power is virtually the only thing that matters in human affairs—Carroll of Carrollton stepped down from the U.S. Senate after about three years (i.e., before his term was over) to return to his home and his position in the Maryland state legislature.
@Trenchant: Chimes! What a kind gift.
When the flicker was first released, the New York Herald Tribune’s film critic, a brilliant woman called Judith Crist, noted wryly, in an otherwise extraordinarily favorable review, that Orson Welles might be the first actor in history too fat to play Falstaff.
@Athanasius: No problem, I also find it surprising that Zanuck was not Jewish. He had to be some person to survive in Kosher Hollywood.
Even though they do continue to lie to us, don’t miss the chance to turn this into a learning experience for friends or family who are generally curious. Just as one can invite them to look deeper into the story of The Amistad or who slave traders in the old South really were, invite them to look deeper into the Wall Street crisis.
Ultimately the truth always wins out, which is precisely why the chosenites have always been expelled. They can push their myths all they want, but the intellectual harmony of truth always prevails over the cacophony of dishonesty and cognitive dissonance.
@Tyron Parsons:
Your understanding of the problem is completely superficial. Jewish power is centered on blood ties and money, not any kind of religious or philosophical belief. My guess is that, because you are a Christian (and you’re only a Christian because you were raised Christian) you believe you must fight them as a Christian and not as a White man.
“What do you think Christian Zionism is? ”
Christian Zionism is a belief buttressed by Jewish media and financial power. I’m not saying Jews don’t use religion to their advantage, I’m saying that their power is not centered around religion, but real, tangible things like ethnic cohesion and money.
“Yes, but your confusing K-Mac with God.”
Well, personally, KMac has enlightened me more on the jewish problem than God ever has. I suspect the same is true of you.
“Christians obviously outnumber Atheists and probably by well over 1 BILLION. ”
How many of those Christians are blacks and hisanics? You want them on our side?
“What kind of an argument do “Jews” make?”
Moral arguments. ALWAYS. Morality is their go-to weapon for getting Whites to do things that aren’t in their interests. “Go and defeat Hitler because Hitler is evil.” “Support illegal immigration because it’s mean and racist not to.” “Send charity money to Africa because the poor Africans are starving.” “Bomb the serbs because the serbs are being mean to the poor Muslims.” “Don’t be racist because racism is evil.” They never, ever use religious arguments on us.
“ANY DEAF MAN can hear it from the some 85% of Icelanders who claimed the Lutheran Christian religion as their belief system!”
Where did you read that 85% of Icelanders are Lutherans?
“thereby pushing these fake Jews to the sidelines for 1900 years.”
The sidelines? Having control of the west’s media, government, and finance is being on the sidelines to you?
As for the rest of your post, I don’t really care what ancient jewish texts have to say about anything.
@Richard Pierce: It does seem hopeless but the vibrancy of the Ron Paul campaign gives me some hope. His support comes from young both the left and right who want these wars stopped and those who see our civil liberties being curtailed See UTube video “Ron Paul California Rally UCLA Simply Amazing.
Fender:
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Your understanding of the problem is completely superficial. Jewish power is centered on blood ties and money, not any kind of religious or philosophical belief.
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You, again, misunderstand the “Jews”. Their belief in their race(s) is synonymous with their belief system (Religious/Philosophical) which they proclaim is truth by virtue of them simply speaking. You can’t deal with one (Belief System or Race) without dealing with the other. Just because most are atheist like YOU makes no difference except that you are playing into their hands. Don’t you understand that the word “religion” or philosophy is just other words for belief system?
I erased in one my previous posts a statement that I thought might not be constructive, but since you have proven to be so damn blind and/or obstinate, I have come to the conclusion that you either have such a seething hatred for the Creator that you will willingly ignore obvious truths, or you are a Jew yourself. If you are a “Jew”, all your claptrap here is designed to keep people away from the formula that is key to their destruction. If you are not a “Jew”, you sure act like one….
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My guess is that, because you are a Christian (and you’re only a Christian because you were raised Christian) you believe you must fight them as a Christian and not as a White man.
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My guess is that you are a Jew because you keep making blanket statements as if they are the ultimate truth without regard for how I, the only person that would be able to answer these personal questions – answers them.
The true White man and true Christianity are synonymous. The truth and commands of the creator/savior have been written in our hearts. It is not imperative to have the written word of God on paper or on stone for us to digest. It is not imperative to have someone come to us to teach us about Jesus Christ because Jesus Christ is in our essence, our DNA- our blood, spirit and soul, all of which come from our creator/savior, Jesus Christ-our kinsman.
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Christian Zionism is a belief buttressed by Jewish media and financial power. I’m not saying Jews don’t use religion to their advantage, I’m saying that their power is not centered around religion, but real, tangible things like ethnic cohesion and money.
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Christian Zionism is a turning of the truth on its head. It is the switching of the true identities of the true white man and the “Jew”. The Jew claims to be physical and spiritual Israel/Judah and Christian Zionists believe them because they have been fooled hence blinded to their own identity. Because of this “Jewish” claim, the Christian Zionist supports them. The truth is, the true Christian- the true White man, is the true physical and spiritual Israel/Judah and this is why they hate Christ and Christianity, and of course the White man to boot.
Their ethnic cohesion- which I have not denied but you keep ignoring, is indeed part of their belief system (religion/philosophy). But what you fail to understand is that the fact that this belief system based upon the tangible only (like money) is completely indicative of who their physical and spiritual father/creator is. What I am saying is that the “Jew” is an alien race to the true human race(s) of this planet. Their father genetically mutated them through mixing his DNA with theirs (as told of in the NT and OT), thus polluting it so they would express externally what they are internally-evil. Their SEED is Satans Seed. The true White mans SEED is from the Creator/Savior of all that is in existance.
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Well, personally, KMac has enlightened me more on the Jewish problem than God ever has. I suspect the same is true of you.
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No, Kmac has not done enlightened me more than God but since KMac is a White man-whether he believes in God or not- yet, some of God’s truths in certain forms are being expressed through him-with or without his knowledge.
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How many of those Christians are blacks and hisanics? You want them on our side?
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To defeat the enemy of both God and all mankind? Yes, I would aligned with those of them that wish toward this goal, and why not? I do not hate other human races. I wish the best for them but I also want for my particular people to be able to form our own societies and governmental structures upon whatever criteria we like- including racial considerations. This can only be done after this enemy is defeated. Unlike you, I do not wish to alienate myself from potential allies and cut off my nose despite my face.
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Moral arguments. ALWAYS. Morality is their go-to weapon for getting Whites to do things that aren’t in their interests. “Go and defeat Hitler because Hitler is evil.” “Support illegal immigration because it’s mean and racist not to.” “Send charity money to Africa because the poor Africans are starving.” “Bomb the serbs because the serbs are being mean to the poor Muslims.” “Don’t be racist because racism is evil.” They never, ever use religious arguments on us.
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See how blind you are? Here you attack the Jew over his “moral” argument and then use morality to expose his false morality. Good for you. However, then you make a fatal mistake. How? You then separate morality from religion saying they never use religion, when in reality, your ignorance of “religion” blinds you to the fact that true religion IS TRUE MORALITY. The Jew uses many “religious” arguments in “Israel” openly. In fact, the “Jew” has had written into America’s legal system the Talmudic Nohide laws. All of their supposedly secular “moral” arguments come directly from the TALMUD; they just don’t broadcast this fact. If you had READ the Talmud, you might not only understand this fact, but you might also come to realize that all morality is “religious” based. The only question that remains is whether that religion (belief system) is true and good, or evil and false.
Jesus Christ (of course) understood this and this is why he and his followers not only defeated the Jew 2000 years ago, but shoved his evil ass to the sidelines for millenniums. You strike me as a person who has never read the bible in any degree, yet believes himself an expert on it based upon the actions he has seen of others who claim falsely to embody it.
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Where did you read that 85% of Icelanders are Lutherans?
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“About 83% of the population belongs to the state church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church, or other Lutheran Churches. However, Iceland has complete religious freedom, and about 35 other religious congregations are present.” http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3396.htm
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The sidelines? Having control of the west’s media, government, and finance is being on the sidelines to you?- in response to what I said ““thereby pushing these fake Jews to the sidelines for 1900 years.”
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Can you read numbers? This is yes or no smart guy. The so called Jews have not had almost complete control the west’s finances-government and media except for about the 100 years. Do you even read? Do you actually study the “Jews” or are you just interested in spewing hate-filled and blind nonsense in an effort to screw any chance the white man has of coming together in unity to defeat them….
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As for the rest of your post, I don’t really care what ancient jewish texts have to say about anything.
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If there was a block option here I would do it now. Why? You’re a FOOL and I say this in the hopes that you come to realize your FOOLISHNESS, admit it and turn from it. Such an action is accord with TRUE MORALITY-TRUE RELIGION-ADMITTING WHEN ONE IS WRONG; Something the “Jew” is incapable of due to his Satanic nature.
Even if scriptures were “Jewish” WHICH THEY ARE NOT- if one takes on an enemy, he studies the enemy so as to know his enemy. He doesn’t throw away information about them because he is so freaking blind and full of hate he would rather see all his people parish than pick up a text and read it in order to defeat them. Here is yet another example of your orwellian double minded thinking. On one hand you say the “Jew” is not religious but then when I bring up the religious scriptures they falsely say are theirs, you claim it is theirs and because of this you refuse to read it. Like I said..you are a FOOL!
@Felix: Great comment.
@Anty Ep: Wall St. started to take over Main St. in the seventies. But I think you’ve also got to look at Nixon’s closing of the gold window, and the explosion of the money supply that ensued, and continues to this day.
@Trenchant: Don’t forget the repeal of Glass Seagal under Clinton which I believe led to the mess we are in today.
@Tyron Parsons:
*Facepalm*
“Don’t you understand that the word “religion” or philosophy is just other words for belief system?”
The Jewish belief system is a racial strategy. It is not a religious argument; a religious argument is one that has no basis in material reality and concerns things which are beyond human comprehension. There’s nothing like that in Judaism; all of their beliefs are centered on racial strategy for attainment of money and power. Get it?
” I have come to the conclusion that you either have such a seething hatred for the Creator that you will willingly ignore obvious truths, or you are a Jew yourself. ”
Hah! I’m the most un-Jewish poster on this entire site, pal.
“What I am saying is that the “Jew” is an alien race to the true human race(s) of this planet. Their father genetically mutated them through mixing his DNA with theirs (as told of in the NT and OT), thus polluting it so they would express externally what they are internally-evil. Their SEED is Satans Seed. The true White mans SEED is from the Creator/Savior of all that is in existance.”
You’re a total nutjob if you believe this nonsense. The Jews, like the Hispanics, Arabs, Indians, and Europeans, are a subgroup of the caucasoid race. They evolved from apes just like everyone else did. Their ethnocentricity, fanaticism, and high IQ are the result of 2,000 years of selective breeding. There’s a rational explanation for everything, and a “creator” is not necessary to describe any of it.
“Unlike you, I do not wish to alienate myself from potential allies and cut off my nose despite my face.”
Do you really think blacks and hispanics will ally themselves with White nationalists? Blacks and hispanics consider Whites and Jews to be pretty much the same evil oppressor.
“About 83% of the population belongs to the state church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church, or other Lutheran Churches.”
See, there’s your answer. They belong to the state church just as I officially belong to the catholic church, but most of them are self-described atheists with no belief in God. Iceland is one of the most atheist states in Europe, and in that regard is no different from other Nordic nations.
” The so called Jews have not had almost complete control the west’s finances-government and media except for about the 100 years.”
No, their power goes much farther back. Read Houston Stewart Chamberlain and learn about all the power they had in 15th century Spain, before getting kicked out.
“Something the “Jew” is incapable of due to his Satanic nature.”
The Jew is not Satantic, because there is no such entity as Satan. What makes you think Satan, another jewish creation, exists? Our ancestors certainly didn’t believe in Satan. Why do you choose jewish mythology over European mythology?
“Even if scriptures were “Jewish” WHICH THEY ARE NOT-”
ugh. Okay, so enlighten me: who wrote the scriptures if not the Hebrews?
@fender:
The Brussels Journal has a very interesting piece on Spengler. I would be very interested in reading your thoughts on it. In particular I was struck by this quote:
Oswald Spengler On Democracy, Equality, And “Historylessness”
@fender: Part of your problem is that you constantly accuse Christians of presumptively buying into the Jewish narrative, but you yourself do so.
The people who wrote the Hebrew Bible were one tribe among many Semitic groups in the Levant. Over the course of the 500 years before Christ (and continuing on for a several hundred years AD), they splintered (theologically, and genetically) and then mixed with many neighboring Semitic groups. These groups are well known (usually from anti-Christian polemics)–the Samaritans, Essenes, etc.
The modern Jews are just ONE such group. Moreover, they are also mixed with other Semitic tribes, Turks, Germans, and Slavs. It is THEIR propaganda that they are the direct and and only descendents of the Hebrews.
That is why we get absurdities like negroid “Jews” from Ethiopia, and swarthy Jews from Yemen, both of whom have highly divergent religious practices, coming to Israel and being forced to accept Ashkenazi orthodoxy (developed in Europe in the middle ages!) to perpetuate the hoax that they are one worldwide tribe.
The Jews love to point out that Christ didn’t look like Max von Sydow–well, Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t look like King David, either.
To put this in perspective, what the Jews claim would be like us claiming that Sinhala people who convert to Christianity are white.
Fender:
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*Facepalm*
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Fool
You said:
The Jewish belief system is a racial strategy. It is not a religious argument; a religious argument is one that has no basis in material reality and concerns things which are beyond human comprehension. There’s nothing like that in Judaism; all of their beliefs are centered on racial strategy for attainment of money and power. Get it?
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You are ignoring my answers or too stupid to comprehend. Get it?
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Hah! I’m the most un-Jewish poster on this entire site, pal.
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You have a funny way of showing it.
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You’re a total nutjob if you believe this nonsense. The Jews, like the Hispanics, Arabs, Indians, and Europeans, are a subgroup of the caucasoid race. They evolved from apes just like everyone else did. Their ethnocentricity, fanaticism, and high IQ are the result of 2,000 years of selective breeding. There’s a rational explanation for everything, and a “creator” is not necessary to describe any of it.
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I never once said they were not a sub group. I said their DNA was tweaked. As an evolutionists you must wonder why it is they are so self absorbed and have such an incredibly high rate of criminality. Criminality may have a high raw IQ rate, but criminality is inheriently STUPID. Their High IQ is a product of their maternal genetics coming from Esau who is related to Abraham. The Hispanics are related to Abraham too because their lineage through Europe and is an offshoot of the tribes of Israel though those who resided in Spain. The Arabs are Shemites as well being the sons of Ishmael who was first born (out of wedlock) of Abraham, and the Indians (some) are a mixed offspring of the northern tribes after they were taken out of the land in 721 BC, entering their geographic location as the ones pushed the to the far east before they broke away, entering the Caucasian mountains through Israel’s pass (Darius’ pass) flooding into Europe to settle there. There are missing links established for the millions of different species and subspecies of everything on the planet, but there is not ONE missing link to show a link between man and ape. I will concede that you may have come from one- not me though…
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Do you really think blacks and hispanics will ally themselves with White nationalists? Blacks and hispanics consider Whites and Jews to be pretty much the same evil oppressor.
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The majority will not but that does not mean that a minority number will.
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See, there’s your answer. They belong to the state church just as I officially belong to the catholic church, but most of them are self-described atheists with no belief in God. Iceland is one of the most atheist states in Europe, and in that regard is no different from other Nordic nations.
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Really? Show me the source that says that the majority of Icelanders self describe as atheist…..I’m waiting…Besides, I gave you a Government source which says that 35% of those churches are not the Government Christian Church and none of those who say they belong, have too because Iceland has total religious freedom…
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No, their power goes much farther back. Read Houston Stewart Chamberlain and learn about all the power they had in 15th century Spain, before getting kicked out.
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No one said they never had any power.They have been booted over 109 times from Christian Europe until recently when they gained dominion. You asserted that they have had dominion forever and balked at my suggestion that their dominion in the west is really about 100 years old. Another example of you acting like a Jew instead of being honest. It’s either that or your an historical illiterate.
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The Jew is not Satantic, because there is no such entity as Satan. What makes you think Satan, another jewish creation, exists? Our ancestors certainly didn’t believe in Satan. Why do you choose jewish mythology over European mythology?
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Yea, right. There is no source to anything. There is no source to life. There is no source every species. There is no source to man, let alone apes. the earth, the stars, matter…hope, none at all. There is no good and there is no evil. There is no right and there is no wrong. You believe that and you are more stupid than I have come to realize.
European “mythology” is pagan and those pagan “deities” were considered Gods from the “heavens”. Listen and learn fool, the same pagan deities you cite as the “authentic European religion(s)” are the EXACT same pagan deities that got them kicked out of the land in 721 BC. They continued worshipping these fallen ones until those Israelite tribes in Europe came back to Christ, exactly as prophesied.
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ugh. Okay, so enlighten me: who wrote the scriptures if not the Hebrews?
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“Enlighten” you? I am beginning to think that is an impossible task because you are too far gone in “Jewish” programming. I am writting the following not only to you, but also anyone who might not understand these things, so please, do not consider me a fool for constantly entertaining your repetative drivel….
Again, you have do not understand the history of the human race(s). Because of this, you’re completely ignorant of the ultimate source(s) of people and even different aspects of matter. You have bought the modern “Jewish” version of events, hook, line, and sinker, and here you sit; accusing me of what you are actually engaged in-trapped in their matrix.
I am going to spell this out to you. A short history lesson if you will because it is YOU who thinks the Hebrews are the Jews simply because the modern lexicon popular in this “Jewish” controlled society has programmed the majority with it.
Adam is the first human. All elements listed in mans makeup in scripture has scientifically proven to be accurate. Adam’s is given promises after the fall; the Dominion and Fruitfulness mandates.Part of these promises also include that his maker would later be born from his lineage and save all of his righteous seed-line. Adam’s lineage goes to Abel who is murdered by Cain. Adam’s second son Seth carries these blessing/mandates on down, ultimately to Noah and Shem (white people). Japeth (Asians-Ashkenazi come from this lineage) and Ham (Blacks), and all of their wives are with Noah (totaling 8 people) and then comes the flood. The flood destroys almost all of mankind, most of which had been mixed with “alien” (fallen angel-man- hybrids-Giants) DNA. Cain’s father was Satan himself and Abel was Adam’s offspring whose father is the Creator/Savior. Cain, Able and Seth were born from Eve’s womb. From these two lineages (Satan/Cain-Adam/Seth) come those who work for their perspective fathers. From these two groups come the Children of light and the Children of darkness; the Children of God and Children of Satan.
After the flood these people (3 different races) spread across the world and start creating sub racial groups. Those from Shem(white people) make the ancient white Kingdoms. Egypt is one as is the city state called Jerusalem founded by Shem who is also known as Melkisedek. Heber (the word Hebrew comes from him) is the offspring of Melkisedek and Abraham is of his lineage. Have you heard the word “Jew” yet? Keep this in mind as we go along. Abraham refuses to worship the pagan deities and is blessed for it. Abraham carries the dominion and fruitfulness mandates and blessings from Adam, Noah, Shem. Abraham’s first son is Ishmael but he is born of a handmaiden, not from his wife Sarah. Ishmael ends up making the 12 Islamic/Arab nations/Kingdoms that we see today. Abraham’s first natural and lawfully born son is named Isaac (the term Saxons comes from this). Isaac has twins (a reply of Adam/Eve-Cain-Able). The first born is named Esau who the Lord says he hates. As first born he would normally get the fruitfulness and dominion blessings but he lost them to Isaacs’s second son. This is the source of the controversy of Zion. Isaac, later known as Israel, has 10 sons. These 10 sons make up the 10 tribes of Israel and two of his grandsons make up 2 tribes. Judah, the 4th son of Isaac has the Kingship mandate through whom the Lord Jesus Christ is to born.
*This is the first time a word comes along that is even remotely close to the word “Jew”. So as you can see, Hebrews are not “Jews” but some “Jews” today might have some lineage to Heber, probably through race mixing with European Israelite stock.
All of these people enter Egypt and then leave with the mixed multitude (Egyptian/Israelite mixed peoples but all white) later establishing the United 12 tribe Kingdom of Israel. This is when Moses is dictated to by the Lord writing down the OT up to this time period. The rest would be written by the prophets, dictated to by the Lord, till just before the coming of Christ Jesus, our Kinsman.
The Northern 10 tribes and Southern 2/3 tribes of Israel split apart and make two different nations. Northern Israel is conquered by the Assyrians around 721BC, some brought as far east as India before they make their way into Europe to settle it. This is allowed to happen as a punishment because the northern tribes started worshiping the fallen angels, otherwise known as the pagan “gods”.
*This is where the Pagan Swastika comes from and the pagan tribes that enter Europe are the Goths (tribe of Gad) Celts (Dan), Saxons (Sons of Isaac) etc etc etc.
The Southern tribes shortly after are conquered by the Babylonians with some of Esau and brought to Babylon for 70 years until they return back to the land.
*This is where the Star of David and the Babylonian Talmud comes from.
125 years before Christ is born, real Judah conquers Esau (called the Kingdom of Edom). The Esau-Edomites have mixed with those called the Cainites (Sons of Cain) and they are absorbed into the WHITE HEBREW Judaite society. The Esau-Edomites become citizens of Judah. Citizens are called “Jews”- real ethnic Judah is called Judaites-much like how a black person can have citizenship to England but that does not make him English-Welsh-British stock. These “Jews” rise to the top of that society and oppress the real people of Judah based upon their race and belief system (OT religion).
Christ separates the fakes from the authentic by his word. Those who hear his word are of his flock(race-12 tribes). Those who do not are of the enemy stock. Esau-Edomites are destroyed by the Romans as the real Judaites leave to Europe proper to join their brethren.
The Israelite European peoples spread to all 4 corners of the globe as we can see today in the European Christian nations, the UK and her colonies and America and even Christian Russia.
Backtracking to about 800 AD, the maternal line remnant of Esau who hold to both the Babylonian and newer Jerusalem Talmud spread their religion to the Khazar Kingdom-the Ashkenaz. These people start making inroads into Christian Europe peoples nations in earnest about 400 years ago. They trick the Christians into believing they are physical and spiritual Judah and Israel as the Christians lose their identity over time. These so called Jews make up the term Jew itself, as if it applies to everyone from Adam to Christ which is an outright lie. In a reply of 2000 years ago, they promote each other based on their race and implement Talmudic thought and belief as an outward expression of who they are inwardly. The majority stock of these fictional people (The word Nazi comes from Ashkenazi) go about creating outward expressions societal forms of governing such as Corporatism- International Socialism-National Socialism- Fascism, Communism and Globalism. This 6 sided front (Star of David) conspires to win the Controversy of Zion and this is why the entire planet is now being set up against the European-Christian peoples and nations as if we are the epitome of evil- turning truth in the world on its head, yet again.
So as you can see (or probably not) the Hebrews are not the “Jews” but those of the European /white race(s) are. It is our white/European’s forefathers who wrote both the Old Testament and New Testament by dictation from the Creator/Savior. These Testaments are contracts of which the New is in place today. Those who enter, by being called, into the agreements, are of the people who win not only this controversy of Zion with the “Jews”, but rule with Christ over a real, good and nobel world Government that seeks not to oppress the other races of the planet, but aid them in a good, healthy-peaceful coexistence.
Fender:
Correction:
I said:
There are missing links established for the millions of different species and subspecies of everything on the planet, but there is not ONE missing link to show a link between man and ape. I will concede that you may have come from one- not me though”
Should have said:
There are NO missing links to any of the species nor are there ANY missing links found between Man and Ape. To say there is a scientifically established connection is completely unscientific, a outright lie and falls in the range of preaching theory as fact.
Another indication of Jewish domination of Hollywood (not that we needed any more at this point):
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/05/30/3096826/family-guy-emmy-ad-snubbed-by-hollywood-trades-says-creator-seth-macfarlane
‘Family Guy’ appeals to ‘overprivileged Brentwood Jews’ in Emmy ad
May 30, 2012
NEW YORK (JTA) — “Family Guy” appealed for an Emmy Award by asking “overprivileged Brentwood Jews” to “let us into your little club.”
The ad was created as part of the FOX comedy’s “for your consideration” DVD mailer to Emmy voters, the Hollywood award news website Gold Derby reported. The awards are presented by the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences.
On Twitter, “Family Guy” creator Seth MacFarlane shared the photo, billing it “the Emmy ad the trades refused to run,” referring to Hollywood trade publications.
It’s not the first time the show has made Jewish tongue-in-cheek references in their Emmy appeals.
In 2009, the show became the first animated series since “The Flintstones” to earn an Emmy nomination for outstanding comedy series. According to Deadline.com, that year’s mailer included the tag line, “You have to vote for us — we did a Holocaust episode.”
Interesting developments with respect to how the muti-cultis are attacking Ukraine for daring to have ethnic consciousness: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/euro-2012-ukraine-rocked-racism-165655384–spt.html
These stories have been running ad nauseum.
@Pierre de Craon, Dean Spanley is an absolutely wonderful movie. Thank you so much for recommending it.
@Kievsky: @Kievsky: Kunstler is a jew supremest who loves small town America but would do away with the people who built it. He’s the jew in Martha’s Vineyard and the Hamptons, living off of what only European people are able to create and down deep he knows it which is why he hates people like me so much.
@Athanasius:
Interesting spot. The English are shorting their own team at the moment and therefore going long on Ukraine’s racism. These stories are being circulated exclusively by the BBC.
@Helvena: You’re welcome. I’m sure you see why I didn’t say what the ostensible subject of the film was. Who would ever imagine that such a seemingly bizarre topic could be turned into such a moving tale? One of these days I am going to read the book on which it’s based.
The political art of large-number repetitionistic reiterationism:
Zionist trial runs of “6 Million” Holocaust propaganda in 1911, and also in 1919
Max Nordau (1849-1923) was the co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodor Herzl.
Have a look at this Max Nordau quote from Ben Hecht’s book ‘Perfidy’ – which is available for free in PDF format at
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf (on page 232 of 261):
Quote:
In the Zionist Congress of 1911, 22 years before Hitler came to power, and three years before World War I, Nordau said, “How dare the smooth talkers, the clever official blabbers, open their mouths and boast of progress. . . . Here they hold jubilant peace conferences in which they talk against war. . . . But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people, and there is nobody, except the doomed themselves, to raise his voice in protest although this is a worse crime than any war . . .” unquote.
And take a look at the article from The American Hebrew, October 31 1919
(see attached reproduction below), prophesying a ‘holocaust’ of ‘six million’:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_H._Glynn
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/images/091031crucifixion.gif
The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!
By Martin H. Glynn
(Former Governor of the State of N.Y.)
From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.
These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter’s cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.
In the face of death, in the throes of starvation there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.
Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.
In this threatened holocaust of human life, forgotten are the niceties of philosophical distinction, forgotten are the differences of historical interpretation.. etc etc etc
It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors :
Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:
‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ (page 83)
I’ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War and the statement is quite correct – not a single mention of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.
Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill’s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.
CODOH – Committee for Open Debate of the Holocaust – breaking the power of taboo
http://www.codoh.com/
German camps vs the Soviet Gulag
People who complain about the German concentration camps in WW2, rarely complain about the very much larger Soviet Gulag camps, which Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (in his magnum opus The Gulag Archipelago, paperback edition, vol 2 p 79) describes as being under the control of the Jew Matvei Berman, the “Chief of Gulag”. Yakov Rappoport was deputy chief of construction (p 78). Solzhenitsyn credits Naftaly Frenkel, a ‘Turkish-born Jew’, with being works chief / chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal, built entirely with slave labour (p 72). Frenkel, Berman and Rappoport are amongst six men described by Solzhenitsyn as ‘hired murderers’, ‘each of whom accounted for thirty thousand lives’ (p 91).
Wikipedia: “There were at least 476 separate camps, some of them comprising hundreds, even thousands of camp units. The most infamous complexes were those at arctic or subarctic regions. Today’s major industrial cities of the Russian Arctic such as Norilsk, Vorkuta, Kolyma and Magadan, were camps originally built by prisoners and run by ex-prisoners.. More than 14 million people passed through the Gulag from 1929 to 1953, with a further 6 to 7 million being deported and exiled to remote areas of the USSR. According to de-classified archive data released by the successor agency to the KGB after Perestroika, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the GULAG from 1934 to 1953, not counting those who died in labor colonies. The total population of the camps varied from 510,307 (in 1934) to 1,727,970 (in 1953).. Most Gulag inmates were not political prisoners, although the political prisoner population was always significant. People could be imprisoned in a Gulag camp for crimes such as unexcused absences from work, petty theft, or anti-government jokes. About half of the political prisoners were sent to Gulag prison camps without trial; per official data, there were more than 2.6 million imprisonment sentences in cases investigated by the secret police, 1921-1953.”
Hitler saw the tremendous danger posed to Germany by Communism. He lived through attempted communist revolutions in Germany in 1919, led by the Jews Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg. He appreciated the desperate need to eliminate this threat, a fact that earned him the immense hatred and animosity of the Jewish organisations and the media and politicians of the west which they could influence. After all, according to the Jewish writer Chaim Bermant, although Jews formed less than five percent of Russia’s population, they formed more than fifty percent of its revolutionaries. According to the Jewish writer Chaim Bermant in his book The Jews (1977, chapter 8):
‘It must be added that most of the leading revolutionaries who convulsed Europe in the final decades of the last century and the first decades of this one, stemmed from prosperous Jewish families.. They were perhaps typified by the father of revolution, Karl Marx.. Thus when, after the chaos of World War I, revolutions broke out all over Europe, Jews were everywhere at the helm; Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev and Zinoviev in Russia, Bela Kun in Hungary, Kurt Eisner in Bavaria, and, most improbable of all, Rosa Luxemburg in Berlin.
‘To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews.. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews.’
Other authors agree with this:
“There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1.. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists.. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.” (Sarah Gordon Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’ Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).
“The second paroxysm of strong anti-Semitism came after the critical role of Jews in International Communism and the Russian Revolution and during the economic crises of the 1920s and 30s… Anti-Semitism intensified throughout Europe and North America following the perceived and actual centrality of Jews in the Russian Revolution.. Such feelings were not restricted to Germany, or to vulgar extremists like the Nazis. All over Northern Europe and North America, anti-Semitism became the norm in ‘nice society’, and ‘nice society’ included the universities.” (Martin Bernal, Black Athena vol. 1 pp. 367, 387).
“The major role Jewish leaders played in the November (Russian) revolution was probably more important than any other factor in confirming (Hitler’s) anti-Semitic beliefs.” (J&S Pool, Who Financed Hitler, p.164).
Jews in pre-war Germany were accepted as enemy aliens after Samuel Untermeyer, the leader of the World Jewish Economic Federation, declared war on Germany on August 6 1933. (Edwin Black The Transfer Agreement: the Untold Story of the Secret Pact between the Third Reich and Palestine (1984) pp272-277) According to Black, ‘The one man who most embodied the potential death blow to Germany was Samuel Untermeyer.’ (p 369). This was the culmination of a worldwide boycott of German goods led by international Jewish organizations. The London Daily Express on March 24, 1933 carried the headline Judea Declares War on Germany.
Interesting arithmetic – the incredible numbers
Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).
According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]
This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader’s credulity.
The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: “Passionate, tormenting”. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering “You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak.”
Could this claim be a misprint?
Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:
‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz – paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).
According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.
‘Sir’ Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:
In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states
‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26).
If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the truly awe-inspiring claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.
Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica
Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesmen for the very sizable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..
Time Magazine, March 18 1985:
‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? “I will never know” Wiesel says. “I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?”
Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:
“In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.”
THE ‘INCORRECT’ SIX MILLION
Alexander Solzhenitsyn in a speech in Washington in 1975 had this to say of the Soviet system which was deemed worthy of recognition as one of ‘our’ Allies fighting ‘for Democracy’ against the ‘Dictators’ in WW2:
“This was a system which, in time of peace, artificially created a famine causing SIX MILLION PERSONS to die in the Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. They died on the very threshold of Europe. And Europe and the world didn’t even notice it. SIX MILLION PERSONS!” (Alexander Solzhenitsyn Speaks to the West (1978) p 16)
Why are these people and their fate generally unknown in western countries?
Roosevelt’s ally Joseph Stalin was supreme dictator of Russia for almost a quarter of a century, from 1929 until his death in 1953. Soviet Russia under Stalin was a despotic police state that relied on internal espionage and terror.
Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan, before WW2, sought to bring about the ‘collectivization of agriculture’ in accordance with Marx’s Communist Manifesto. When Communism was imposed on Russia, the small farmers known as kulaks, as private property owners, stood in the way. In 1929 Stalin called for ‘the liquidation of the kulaks’, and their small family farms, animals, implements and crops were declared to belong to the state. “Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev (all Jews) had always argued that the peasant would never surrender enough food voluntarily and must, if need be, crushed” (Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p 268). The army and secret police were used to enforce the policy. All peasants who resisted were treated with violence – an enormous number were killed or sent to exile in remote areas in the frozen north or the desert steppes. Rather than give up their animals, many peasants killed and ate them. As a result, the number of farm animals in the Soviet Union was catastrophically reduced. The peasants stopped farming.
After a while, the cities started running out of food. Orders were given for grain to be confiscated from the peasants. Those caught trying to reserve food for their families were ‘severely dealt with’. By the winter of 1932-3, virtually no food was left in the countryside. By early March 1933, ‘death on a mass scale really began’. The main farming areas of Russia, particularly in the Ukraine, were utterly devastated. It was a time of great and terrible hunger, a catastrophic man-made famine.
Eugene Lyons was sent to Russia in 1928 as United Press chief correspondent. Arriving as an enthusiastic communist, he experienced the catastrophe at first hand. He described the ‘famine’ in his book Assignment in Utopia (1937):
“Hell broke loose in seventy thousand Russian villages.. A population as large as all of Switzerland’s was stripped clean of all their belongings.. They were herded with bayonets at railroad stations, packed indiscriminately into cattle cars and freight cars and dumped weeks later in the lumber regions of the frozen North, the deserts of central Asia, wherever labor was needed, there to live or die..”.
The famine alone is estimated conservatively to have caused 6 million deaths, almost half of them children. Other millions died from the killings and sickness as a result of the deportations.
Lyons, himself Jewish, credits the Jewish commissar Lazar Kaganovich with the major portion of responsibility for this major crime against humanity:
“Lazar Kaganovich… it was his iron hand that applied Bolshevik mercilessness.” (Lyons, p 578). The Encyclopaedia Britannica says tersely, “(Kaganovich) was one of the small group of Stalin’s top advisors pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929.. Within the Politburo, Kaganovich.. led the opposition to Kirov’s proposed concessions to the peasantry and to his attempts to relax the harshness of Stalin’s control..”
Kaganovich died at the ripe old age of 98 in 1991 (Encl. Brit.), ethnically safe from pursuit by the Israeli secret service, the Simon Wiesenthal organization and the New York media-intelligentsia. Shhhh!!!
Dirty Little Secrets – the hidden, awkward origins of World War 2 – the unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events
Just consider the following:
· Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying “Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war”. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).
· Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says “Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.” (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.)
· Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, “the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.” (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).
· Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).
Etc etc etc etc – more detail at http://www.rense.com/general92/dirty.htm
No, no, no, no, no. I mean yes, the Jews control Hollywood (half the Jews I know don’t seem to know it), but no to the idea of a new “banking” system based on anything other than the source of all wealth, i.e., human labor directly converted into spendable credit bypassing the “banking” system all together. We need accountants, accounting for the fair distribution of the fruits of our collective human labors, not bankers whose sole function is to skim the cream off the top for themselves, while maintaining the illusion that we actually need them. A man with a mountain of gold is poor without cheap human labor to mine, transport, process and otherwise get it to market. If we were paid what we’re worth, there wouldn’t be “millionaires,” technically, but we’d all be living like one. As the fruit of someone’s labor, every item we find on store shelves has already been “paid” for. That reality is obfuscated by compensating the laborer far below his or her actual worth. Adding insult to injury, we are forced to pay for the necessities and niceties of life, again, at inflated prices, at the checkout counter. We don’t need bankers. Just honest bean-counters.