The case for Obama: Why four more years may be less disastrous than unrestrained GOP rule

Cooper Sterling


Shortly after Mitt Romney locked up the GOP nomination, tried-and-true political axioms fell right into place. With the state primaries over and the August convention looming, Romney’s presidential campaign moved Left, a common window-dressing tactic intended to appeal to “moderate” and independent voters.

GOP insiders, primarily advocates of the “Big Tent” Republican Party, believe that this superficial move — intended to capture the political “center” — is a successful tactic that will pay off in November. The attempt is to peel off disaffected independent voters, who were a key voting bloc for Obama in 2008.

So where does the Romney campaign focus their attention? Latino activists, the NAACP, and Israel! Three well-organized ethnic lobbies and key constituencies that form the core of the Democrat’s base. As soon as any Republican candidate secures the nomination, one of the first priorities is to visit Tel Aiv or Jerusalem and placate the neoconservatives and organized Zionist groups. Romney is reportedly planning to host a fundraiser and charge “$60,000 or more per plate” in a scheduled visit to Israel later in July. Right on schedule!

Republicans never tire of trying to out democratize the Democrats. The ruling elites in the GOP establishment continue to take for granted their core constituency: Middle American Whites. As a potential voting bloc, White voters could make a substantial difference in this year’s election. However, the Romney campaign, much like other Republican presidential campaigns, assumes that this bloc of conservative White voters will remain loyal to a political party at odds with their own group interests.

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Considering the long-range implications of America’s vanishing White population, will White voters continue to blindly support politicians who favor destructive policies, which threaten their long-term posterity?

In 1968 and 1972, Alabama Governor George Wallace ran insurgent campaigns to appeal to middle class White voters across party lines in the attempt to awaken the “silent majority” and mobilize White voter frustrations over forced busing, crime, domestic turmoil, and the economy. As national conditions deteriorate, conservative White voters, who identify with the Tea Party, could become politically restless and galvanize their group strength into a political force. A viable political movement could seize on these frustrations and, in the short term, create problems for Romney and, in the long term, create greater problems for the GOP. As our nation slides further into the multicultural dystopia, Republicans seem determined to pour gas on a potentially volatile situation.

While campaigning for the GOP nomination, Romney sounded tough on immigration. He opposed the DREAM Act, favored tougher border enforcement, and strongly opposed illegal immigration — all of which was red meat to GOP grassroots activists. Shortly after becoming the GOP’s presidential candidate, Romney posthaste started appealing to ethnic Latino activists, essentially reassuring the nation’s largest ethnic minority that he will raise their standard of living, “strengthen” legal immigration, and ensure that “securing our borders” is a “fair” process. In other words, a Romney Administration is nothing Latinos should fear.

Speaking before the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials  (NALEO) in June, Romney promised, “I will prioritize measures that strengthen legal immigration and make it easier. And I will address the problem of illegal immigration in a civil but resolute manner.” He went on to note, “We can find common ground here, and we must. We owe it to ourselves as Americans to ensure that our country remains a land of opportunity — both for those who were born here and for those who share our values, respect our laws, and want to come to our shores.”

It isn’t a question of who is coming here. Nor is it an issue if swelling numbers of immigrants fail to assimilate and instead annihilate local communities.

No. For Romney it is a matter of process — finding “common ground” in the “land of opportunity.”

Sam Francis’s description of the GOP as the Stupid Party and the Democrat Party as the Evil Party has morphed into the Stupid Evil Party versus the Evil Party. The Democrats understand their own constituencies and interests, namely the welfare of ethnic minority voters  and government union workers. Placating these crucial voting blocs is the Democrats’ modus operandi.

The problem with the Republican Party leadership is that the GOP establishment senselessly feels compelled to likewise co-opt the interests of minority voters — the Democrats’ core constituency — with programs that are advertised as bigger, better, more efficiently run initiatives. Even worse, this political direction will undermine the wellbeing of its own natural base: Middle American Whites.

More recently Romney addressed the NAACP and pledged that “if you want a president who will make things better in the African American community, you are looking at him.” Romney, awkwardly trying to appease those in attendance, was booed for saying he would eliminate “nonessential, expensive programs,” such as Obamacare. Under the guise of “free market” rhetoric, he tried to appeal to this staunchly Democrat audience with promises to end the high unemployment rate among Blacks.

Such reforms will end up as a mix of private and public sector schemes, which by design will be another form of welfare. “Empowerment programs” are a good example of one step forward and three back with the GOP. Welfare is bad; so let’s co-subsidize welfare recipients who get a job—and therefore create greater inefficiencies in the workplace by positioning incompetent and unqualified applicants into the cogs of local economies. Instilling “values” of hard work, thrift, and punctuality is as futile as promoting “educational” reforms — quintessential egalitarian fallacies that every individual is equally capable of becoming pioneers of science, engineering, and medicine. What’s needed? Empowerment!

Ever since the Reagan years, Republicans typically campaign on one set of policies — appealing to Middle Americans — and govern with another. Take, for example, GOP opposition to the Department of Education. Despite all the rhetoric of dismantling this monstrosity, the Department not only still exists, it is larger and more expansive than ever, thanks in part to Presidents Bush I and Bush II (like father, like son). What’s the point of HUD if it isn’t to keep the numbers up (elevate Blacks to the upper echelons of the federal workforce when they would otherwise would be in service sector jobs)? Republicans should be leading the effort to close down these wasteful, inefficient bureaucracies and torpedo legislation that creates more of the same.

Recent political developments — immigration trends (the news that just as many Mexicans have left rather than entered the U.S.); the Supreme Court’s decision in SB1070, which hollowed out Arizona’s attempt to halt, apprehend, and deport illegal aliens; the peculiar ruling to uphold the constitutionality of the federally mandated “Affordable” Healthcare Act; raging egalitarianism of spineless conservatives, such as Rich Lowry, who purged John Derbyshire and Robert Weissberg from National Review; and the endless saga of Trayvon — foretell either four more years of the status quo or a hollow “conservative” victory, which will usher in not only Republican rule but political disasters potentially far worse than four more years of the Obama Administration.

What will happen, in all likelihood, if the Republicans take control in November (securing the White House and both houses of Congress)? The GOP will manage to co-opt the opposition and achieve “key victories,” which grassroots conservative opposition—in large measure Tea Party pressure—has largely prevented Obama from accomplishing. Will Tea Party opposition continue to be politically effective in holding a Romney administration accountable when straying from principle as much as their effectiveness during Obama’s first term?

Consider the DREAM Act. Romney, with assistance from Florida’s junior Senator Marco Rubio, will quite likely introduce a modified version of the DREAM Act in Congress. Obama failed to get the DREAM Act through Congress largely because of organized grassroots opposition from the Right. Moreover, Romney will quite likely push for “comprehensive immigration reform.” Rest assured it will be Son of Bush! When all is said and done, any “modified” DREAM Act will simply be nothing less than one more sugarcoated amnesty!

Another consideration is that any reforms or programs under a Romney Administration will be labeled “conservative” by the Mainstream Media. What’s worse is that the conservative establishment will in all likelihood accept these initiatives even if it emboldens the federal bureaucracy and jeopardizes the long-term wellbeing of the nation.

“Conservatives” who support Romney will ultimately argue that he is far from perfect, but certainly a preferred alternative to Obama. The economy is on the rocks…it needs reviving…Romney’s policies can turn it around. However, this is typical “conservative” (i.e., stupid) thinking, which reflects crass consumerism and Wall Street-driven materialism.

Maybe what we really need is four more years of austerity under Obama: further economic stagnation, dismal job growth, and further incentives for more Latinos to self deport en masse. An economic revival will attract more Mexican day laborers, invite another illegal-alien invasion, and therefore create an artificial need to “assimilate” these immigrants and their children under yet another amnesty. The process will never end unless the majority of Whites channel their political energy into a Tea Party-style uprising that unequivocally speaks out for their own group interests.

Who benefits from the status quo (with Whites politically neutralized)? Organized interest groups: mega-conglomerates, ethnic lobbies, and foreign entities! Economic growth is the engine that is fueling our immigration nightmare and demographically altering our nation.

The laws of unintended consequences will inevitably work against Democrat rule. It is a virtual certainty that a President as a known quantity, even as ideologically loathsome as Obama, is potentially less dangerous and reckless than the unknown alternative. As the saying goes, “better to take one’s chances with the devil you know, than the one you don’t know.” A coalition of interests that is too diverse will fracture and eventually become an ungovernable herd of competing cats. We’re seeing this play itself out on the national political scene with “divided government.” The lack of trust that Robert Putnam discovered in his studies of highly diverse societies is now rampant in our society.

There is much truth to the notion that the two political parties, representing very different peoples, interests, and constituencies, are pulling the nation in different directions. American politics is becoming ever more racialized—organized along racial fault lines where 90% of the Republican voters are White, and landslide percentages of non-Whites vote Democrat. It is also true that the rationales underlying these differences are just as divergent. One party firmly and openly represents the ethnic interests of its base (Evil Party), while the other one implicitly represents the interests of its core constituents (Evil Stupid Party) but is equally quick to sacrifice such interests for political expediency.

The absolute best outcome for the next four years is total political gridlock. The best way to achieve this is divided government. Let Obama have the White House, let the Tea Party gather further momentum as an opposing political force, and let’s hope gridlock prevents the governing elites from taking the country over the edge of the cliff. The so-called conservative justices on the Supreme Court will have to stick it out another four years.

Those of us on the Alternative Right, who regularly part company with “conservatives,” should follow Lord Salisbury’s dictum: “Whatever happens will be for the worse, and therefore it is in our interest that as little should happen as possible.” This is the best we can hope for — gum things up so that both parties are ineffective at “accomplishing” anything, knowing that whatever is achieved will be detrimental for our national survival.

 Cooper Sterling [email him] is a freelance writer in the Washington, D.C. area.

 

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329 Comments to "The case for Obama: Why four more years may be less disastrous than unrestrained GOP rule"

  1. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 18, 2012 - 10:27 am | Permalink

    You make many excellent points, Mr. Sterling. Nonetheless, you fail to address the central fact of federal governance: the presidency no longer has any effective checks on its functioning.

    Forty years of Democratic and Republican congresses have gleefully ceded virtually all their powers to the executive branch, primarily to prevent members of the other party from undoing the mischief they themselves did. At no time since the seventies (specifically, since the sets for the Watergate burlesque were struck) has there been more than a literal handful of senators and congressman seriously interested in recovering their constitutional powers and prerogatives. (Twenty years ago I was still fool enough to think Salamander Gingrich was one of them; therein lies one of the reasons 1994 was the last time I voted—and ever will vote.) As for the Supremes, the less said the better. They all swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, and there ain’t a one of them that hasn’t perjured himself multiple times.

    Those who, unlike me, still vote ought then to consider what the next elected dictator will do. Worrying—nay, even thinking—about the Congress is a waste of one’s time.

  2. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 18, 2012 - 10:46 am | Permalink

    I will not vote for Romney. There is no way the Republicans are ever going to represent whites unless they fear we will stay home and cost them an election.

    Also, this “proposition nation” propaganda about immigrants who “share our values” is total nonsense. No one cares if immigrants “share our values”. Recently, an atheist assaulted an atheist dressed as a zombie “Mohammad” because he believed it was illegal to insult the Prophet Mohammad. No one suggested deporting him even though he clearly does not “share our values.” They don’t care about our values. They just want to dissolve the nation.

  3. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 18, 2012 - 10:49 am | Permalink

    Vote for Ron Paul or don’t vote at all

  4. July 18, 2012 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    Many good points here. However, I was also thinking about the “election” today, and I think the choice is not so subtle.

    It’s true that generally speaking the parties are Stupid and Evil; or, as I like to say, one is stupid, but the other is bat-shit crazy. Which would a sensible person choose, a driver, say, so was dumb or one that was crazy? As Will Graham says to Hanibal Lechtor, “I know I’m not smarter than you, but you had disadvantages … you’re insane.”

    But it’s not quite so simple. Both parties have been thoroughly Judaized, one by the “New Left” which replaced worker policies with Frankfurter “identity” issues: pro-immigrant, pro-affirmative action, pro-globalization and free trade, etc. The other by the neo cons, who support the same issues.

    But at one time, the Democrats were the White Workingman’s Party — as in your example of Geo. Wallace. Immigrants? Sure, WHITE immigrants. Think Jack London, not E L Doctorow.

    There are enough remnants of that on the Left to make the Democrats objectively, as the Trots would say, the pro-White party. Take “Obamacare.” Forget all the Republican BS. Who has national healthcare? White countries. Hell, the idea goes back to Bismarck, Spengler and Yockey. Those men of the Right have more in common with Obama than the Randianized [Jewess, of course] capitalists of Romney’s ilk.

    Take today’s “issue”, Obama telling businessmen “You didnt’ do it alone.” Romney and Faux News are up in arms. Why, hasn’t he thrilled to Howard Roark’s “I stand in no tradition” like all “real Americans” [Sununu]?

    Yeah, take your ideology from a Russian Jewess and a Lebanese.

    Obama however speaks for the White Tradition from the Norse [First my race, then my family, then myself] to Spengler’s Prussian Socialism.

    After all, unlike Rand and Sununu, he’s at least HALF White!

  5. July 18, 2012 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    The DESTROYERS of our people are in the driver’s seat.
    Meanwhile their agents troll White Identity forums pushing their anti-Islam propaganda. The Game is almost over, so why interfere in their Pyrrhic victory?

    Assad’s brother-in-law and top Defense minister murdered and Tel Aviv and DC smile.

    Thank the TRIBE for the future…

  6. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 18, 2012 - 10:57 am | Permalink

    Obama seems far and away the best man to vote for. He is also the man the Jewish lobby want to vote out, so a win for Obama is also a blow for them. Obama also makes an attack on iran much less likely in the next 4 years. Which could be long enough.

  7. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 10:58 am | Permalink

    How dumb are we? As long as any candidate gets the shockingly large donation that are permitted, no one will be working for us. The only question is who will be most successful in working against us. Vote them all out, over and over again. It is the only thing short of a revolution which will help at all.

  8. Skadhi_the_Raverner's Gravatar Skadhi_the_Raverner
    July 18, 2012 - 11:11 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Agreed, voting is irrational anyway because even a relatively well-known site TOO can’t match the total domination of the mass media by the people who really pull the strings.

    Its irrational to try and fix things by voting like its irrational to try and fix things by praying.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200911/why-do-people-vote-i

  9. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 11:14 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:
    With all due respect, Iran and its safety are not my highest priority. If we let Obama slide on his blatant whining about race, we deserve what we get. I am not willing to concede that all Americans can hope for is a few scraps from the Jewish table. That is Obama’s position.

    If we really had a free press, someone would do a comedy sketch with Obama cast in the role of the out of work black man asking for just one more chance., It wasn’t my fault, Baby, whitey won’t give me a chance.

    The black elite is still using the race card and we really must call them on it.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/309616/barack-healer-victor-davis-hanson

  10. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    July 18, 2012 - 11:17 am | Permalink

    What are Romney, or Obama going to do for White Americans? NOT for Blacks, Jews, Israel, queers, Hispanics, Latinos, Asians, Chinese etc. Short answer: Nothing.

    There’s no reason to vote. The Republicans are just as bad, if not worse than the Democrats. The Republicans might stroke you a little bit, but, if you check out their local actions they appoint the same type of anti-White characters as the Democrats in local, state & federal political positions. Often times the Republicans come up with even worse elite do-gooder types. That crippled, feminist anti-racist political appointment is just as likely a Republican as a Democrat!

  11. omop's Gravatar omop
    July 18, 2012 - 11:22 am | Permalink

    This is what a prominent Tea Party politician is quoted as having said:- ” My husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.
    Right now in my own private Bible time, I am working through Isaiah . . . and there is continually a coming back to what God gave to Israel initially, which was the Torah and the Ten Commandments….. unless we support Israel god will put a curse on the U.S.”
    Michelle Bachmann [Rep.U.S.congress person] as quoted in Wikipedia: “

  12. Mother Trucker's Gravatar Mother Trucker
    July 18, 2012 - 11:28 am | Permalink

    “. . .1994 was the last time I voted. . .”

    1968 for me. Then I joined The League of Non-Voters, The founder- Sy Leon- authored NONE OF THE ABOVE: Why non-voters are America’s political majority. I’ve been awaiting STHF ever since.

    http://www.amazon.com/None-Above-Non-Voters-Americas-Political/dp/0930073177

  13. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 11:34 am | Permalink

    @Skadhi_the_Raverner:
    I guess you caught me. I vote, I pray and I buy a lottery ticket every once in a while. None has done me any harm, nor risked anything I cannot afford to lose.

  14. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 18, 2012 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Alice – sure I hear you. What I said comes nested within a lot of assumptions, E.g:

    Whites currently marginalized {
    Neither candidate will do anything for whites{
    Israel gets stronger if Iran goes{
    Obama resistent to bombing iran{
    Romney not resistent{
    Vote Obama{}
    }
    }
    }
    }

  15. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 12:29 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:
    Republicans are being dragged, kicking and screaming, to an admission that they are the white party by default. It is all a kabuki dance where they pretend that it is truly judging by character rather than race. As the rainbow coalition demonstrates openly that they do not pay any allegiance to universal values, they just want their share of the pie, no matter what, we get permission to say we tried but we can’t do it alone. The only real holdouts are white, single, women who do not want to give up their affirmative action benefits or be asked to defend their life choices. Those without kids think it is fine to keep demanding more debt and expect my kids to pay for it. It is immoral.

    I have no real hope for Romney, beyond perhaps making the government which we cannot afford a little more efficient. We have an old saying here ‘ As California goes, so goes the nation.’ California is going to hell, it is broke and cities are declaring bankruptcy. Soon they will demand that the rest of the country bail them out. It might get ugly.

    I do not think it is Obama resisting the Israelis. He knows that the American people will not stand another war right now, and that we cannot afford it. Nor do I think the military will go alone quietly.

  16. Multiracialism Killed Multiculturalism's Gravatar Multiracialism Killed Multiculturalism
    July 18, 2012 - 12:59 pm | Permalink

    “As our nation slides further into the multicultural dystopia, Republicans seem determined to pour gas on a potentially volatile situation.”

    The slide from imposed pluralism (100 years ago) to multiculturalism (50 years ago) and now to politicized multiracialism (10 years ago) is a completed process.

    Yes, politicized multiracialism at least here on the West Coast has murdered multiculturalism, and it behooves us to unpack the meaning we can from this most recent ideological shift.

    Politicized multiracialism means that every demographic is its own political party…that many are supporting the Democratic Party is a temporary phenomenon. It also means that we need to start speaking as members of a political party that focuses on our needs and our future alone. As a minority demographic (on the West Coast), we no longer have to assume the burdens of universalism…the only peoples we have to take care of and look after are our own.

  17. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

    I hope Romney wins, and here’s why:

    1. It would cause a massive chimpout from blacks in the major cities that could not possibly be ignored by the mainstream media the way they are now. This would go a long way in dividing the racial lines in America, which is actually what needs to happen (i.e. Whites siding with Whites, blacks siding with blacks)

    2. The jews will get what they want, a war on Iran that will cost billions of dollars and thousands of American lives. The economy will fall apart faster and lead us closer to a collapse. Furthermore it will wake up more Americans to the fact that jews control our country, and not to its benefit.

    3. It would be a repudiation of America as a multicultural nation to have its first black president only serve one term and then get immediately replaced by a White man. Obama would be seen as a failure by not only Americans, but the entire world; in short, the black man failed.

    Unfortunately #3 is exactly the reason why Obama will win. The elites placed him in the White House as a symbol of Whitey’s fall from grace. There’s no way they would ever let him fail. The jews behind Obama will stop at nothing to make sure he gets re-elected.

  18. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 18, 2012 - 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I will be writing in Ron Paul. I am a conservative and even used to be a republican, but while Romney is hand-in-glove with Sheldon Adelson, there’s no way I’ll vote for him.

    The same people who lied us into war with Iraq are now trying to lie us into war with Iran. A vote for Romney is a vote for the war with Iran his sugar daddy is trying to buy.

  19. Paul Hausser's Gravatar Paul Hausser
    July 18, 2012 - 1:29 pm | Permalink

    The Jews have placed us in a destructive box with both Kosher candidates.

    Zionist Jews for Romney equals a serious war with Iran and skyrocketing gas prices and Marshall Law at home. Catastrophic for small business. A full Judeo-Masonic(Mormons) dictatorship.

    Bolshevik Jews for Obama equals destroying of the Constitution, Christianity, Values and Morals. Soviet Style repression of American Nationalists. A 50/50 chance of war with Iran.

    This is bad. Real bad.

  20. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 18, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Folks,

    In the de facto political legal fiction system it might make sense to want Obama to win again if only for the sake of waking up more white people but in reality, it does not matter who wins or not least that person uses the UNITED STATES Corporation Chief Executive position to write one last executive order. That order would be to dissolve the Corporation UNITED STATES. This act would automatically force those structures to lawfully inhabit the organic united States Republic Government where Christian Common/Constitutional law would reign supreme again. Such a move would automatically make all illegal aliens unlawful inhabitance and an invasion force via the lawful 13th Amendment. Automatically, America would return to the immigration and naturalization processes that were in effect in 1860 which were completely set up for the white man. The Government then would be lawfully bound to kick out every single illegal, BAR lawyer, “dual citizen” of the UNITED STATES in America; a move that would solve about 90% of our problems over night. Until an action like this is taken the noose only gets tighter no matter who wins.

  21. Bohemianh's Gravatar Bohemianh
    July 18, 2012 - 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Is there any outcome other than Ron Paul that would change anything really? No, lets be real as long as the media is in the hands of those who hate you, not much is going to change.

  22. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 18, 2012 - 1:46 pm | Permalink

    @omop: If people read their Bibles with a more critical eye, they might soon recognize that most of the prophets appear to speak with two distinct voices, almost schizophrenically. First, they harshly criticize Israel and Judah, and then they close with a formulaic addendum to the effect “that you are my beloved, chosen before all time and will be my people forever.”

    Most grade school teachers who came across any student’s paper with such an abrupt change in voice would recognize that there were, in fact, at least two authors to the student’s paper and that an addendum had been made by a different author.

    I would suggest that the whole “you are my people forever” passages were later cribbed in at a later date. For what reasons I do not know. While I have no archaeological evidence to prove my point, the sudden and abrupt stylistic change in any written work almost always suggests a different author, making a later addition to alter the text’s original meaning. Read any of the prophets without those “you are my beloved for all time” passages formlaically at the end. Without them they make more sense.

  23. Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
    July 18, 2012 - 1:52 pm | Permalink

    “immigration trends (the news that just as many Mexicans have left rather than entered the U.S.)”

    Did I read that right? I’ve been reading here that it was all up for the USA!

  24. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 18, 2012 - 2:13 pm | Permalink

    @Felix:

    What you are seeing is not someone writing something new, but the different characters of the trinity. One, the father, is masculine and is about punishment and harshness with love. The other is the spirit, and feminine which is about undying love, counting no faults. The last is a combo of the two and that is the true and full character of God ( compound oneness or trinity) which is encapsulated in Jesus Christ, the son.

  25. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 18, 2012 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons: Thanks, but I prefer to subscribe to Ockham’s razor, instead: All other things being equal, it’s best to subscribe to the explanation that requires the fewest assumptions.

  26. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    July 18, 2012 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    @James O’Meara: This is an excellent antidote for any blacks who think there is such a thing as a White Community. In the South? Joseph Goebbels in his Diaries remarked that with the loss of the Civil War by the Southern side, the last chance for an American **Herrenvolk** was lost, too.

    Maybe so. But a **Herrenvolk** and a modern, industrial nation don’t go together.

  27. Don MacDonald's Gravatar Don MacDonald
    July 18, 2012 - 2:48 pm | Permalink

    The Jews OWN both candidates. Ron Paul is a lost cause. Someone above told an outright lie to claim that the Jews want Obama voted out. Nonsense. They put him in the White House, and the Zionist media still adores him. Wall St. is the largest contributor to both candidates, so in some ways it really doesn’t matter. But I hate Obama, especially for the way he’s treated Arizona. It is despicable for a president to tell a state that it is not allowed to protect its’ own citizens. Obama is a hate filled anti-white bigot Bolshevik POS. Romney might be a two faced prick as well, but at least he isn’t a godamned Bolshevik.

  28. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:

    Why do you still believe in god? What kind of god would tolerate a world like this? What kind of god lets the jews pillage, murder, and destroy for 3,000 years now? Not a god worth believing in or worshipping.

  29. July 18, 2012 - 2:52 pm | Permalink

    You don’t have to make this case. Obama’s going to win. He’s just a better fighter than Romney. Being black, he’s on the moral offensive–like all blacks are–whereas Romney is into moral defensive mode–as all whites are, eager to prove that they are not ‘racist’. Obama uses the gun, whereas Romney brought a knife to the gunfight. But this is the way it is because Jews control the rules of the game and the terms of the fight. Since Jews run 96% of the media, they get to decide which news has ‘traction’ and which news don’t, which news get covered emotionally/morally and which news gets covered ‘objectively’ and dryly. In 2008, the MSM covered the Jeremiah Wright story without judgment–imagine if McCain had such an associate on the Right. But media are working hand in glove with Obama to make the Bain ‘scandal’ stick with Romney.

    Also, what a decrepit nation this has become. Obama is the product of a black African humping a white woman, but THIS freak is the president? White Americans are peeing in their pants and fainting all over before his black messiah presence? He comes out for ‘gay marriage’ yet isn’t condemned but praised by the media? And Americans aren’t bothered by it in the least? So, Americans are okay with the idea of marriage based on fecal penetration among men? Of course, European whites are even more brainwashed than American whites. 90% of French and 80% of Germans want Obama to be president.

    To be sure, Romney has other problems. As a two-faced RINO, he’s been all over the map. The left hates him but the right doesn’t trust him either. Romney signed ‘gay marriage’ into law in Assachussetts. He came up with Romneycare. He’s also a puppet of big finance. Because of his liberal record, he can’t really go after Obama. And given the media is owned by liberal Jews, he has to go easy on Obama because he will attacked for being ‘mean’ and ‘negative’.
    Given that Forbes top 400 is nearly 40% Jewish–and even most gentile superrich are liberal Democrats–, isn’t it about time the GOP became the party of the middle class? But the superrich are richer than ever whereas the middle class has gotten squeezed. So, all politicians cater to the superrich, among whom Jews are very prominent. Consider that 5.6 million Jews in America own more wealth than 1.3 billion Chinese or more than all the Russians and all Asian-Indians combined.

    Consider Jews and gays make up 4% of the US population, but 80% of funds to Democrats come from Jews and gays: 65% from Jews and 15% from gays. It’s no wonder that Democratic Party is essentially the party of global finance, big media, Hollywood, and the gay mafia. Though the party pretends to fight for the ‘little guy’, it’s really the party of the global rich and the ‘creative class’. Democrats throw crumbs to the ‘little guy’ in the form of welfare and free healthcare, but that’s about it.
    The thing is Romney cannot go against Wall Street since he made his fortune from finance. Though his wealth of 200 million makes him a small fish compared to the Jewish bigshots, he’s been little more than a puppet of financial overlords who run Wall street all his life. So, he won’t stick up for Main Street against Wall Street. So, even though Obama served Wall Streets well, he and the Jew-controlled media are gonna spin the election as Obama & the 99% vs Romney and the 1%.

    Romney is also not a good liar. There are good liars and bad liars. Even supporters of Clinton and Obama knew them guys were liars, but they were good liars. Smooth liars. And so the lies didn’t stick with them.
    Romney’s style is stiff and square, and so his lies stick to him. It’s a matter of style, but style matters in politics.

    Anyway, don’t worry about Romney winning. He won’t. He’s distrusted by independents and loathed by many conservatives. And the better educated and richer whites prefer Obama because they all came under academic and media influence of the Jews.

    The only thing I worry about is Supreme Court justices. With a few more like Kagan, you can kiss the first and second amendments goodbye.

    On the other hand, some are prediction economic disaster in 2013. I don’t think anyone wants to be president when that time comes… well, if it comes.

  30. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 18, 2012 - 3:04 pm | Permalink

    @Mother Trucker:

    1968 for me.

    My hat is off to you, sir. No kidding.

  31. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 18, 2012 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Pierre, excellent points on Mr. Sterlings article. I couldn’t agree more, and I would add, that the Congress and President, are now the employees of the multi-nationals and Wall Street, working for them, rather than any citizenry.

  32. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 18, 2012 - 3:44 pm | Permalink

    @Andrea Ostrov Letania: One thing that is often overlooked, is the shear number, huge really, of employees now working for the various government apparatus’s. With things like public employee unions and so many businesses dependent on government, the DEMOCRATS have a huge advantage, and I haven’t even mentioned the change in demographics, most of which votes Democrat. We are already a socialist, fascist, corporate dictatorship, and nothing will change this except utter collapse of the existing system along with a seizure of power by an entirely new system.

  33. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 18, 2012 - 3:48 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Yet, you would not like it if God did “butt in”, would you? This goes for most people. I want God when he can serve me, but not unless I get served the way I want to be served. What kind of God would that be, next to one who apparently allows complete freedom?

  34. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 18, 2012 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Final comment that I have been disputing with friends and family for a long time now. Of course Obama will win, but he’ll win by a small margin……….wink wink. The elite did not put Obama in place in order to help main street. They put him in place in order to help Wall Street, which he has faithfully, and in each instance, done. If you don’t like it, it just proves your prejudiced, and after being indoctrinated for the last fifty years, Americans certainly don’t want to be thought of as “prejudiced”. Get it now?

  35. Watson Gullet's Gravatar Watson Gullet
    July 18, 2012 - 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Obama is up 2 or 3 points since Obamacare passed. The low lifes love free stuff. Prior to that, they were polling neck and neck. And it’s true that Obama fights dirty, because he IS dirty. Yet another soulless sellout in a long line of soulless sellouts. I’d prefer Romney only because I don’t as yet hate him. Ron Paul would have been a game changer but he never stood a chance in reality.

  36. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 4:08 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby:

    If god exists and allows for complete freedom and never takes sides no matter what, what’s the point of worshipping him? If he exists and does take sides then we can only assume, judging by the past century or so, that he despises whites and loves our enemies. Either way there’s no point in worshipping him.

  37. frogman's Gravatar frogman
    July 18, 2012 - 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Romney on crutches and in a skirt would be better than giving the mulatto another term. He should go down in history as a one-termer, a fluke, a mistake that was corrected by a second-term rejection.

  38. H.Woods's Gravatar H.Woods
    July 18, 2012 - 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Ever since the Reagan years, Republicans typically campaign on one set of policies

    Actually it started with Nixon. “Watch what we do, not what we say.” – John Mitchell

    Francis did no good when he revived the term “Stupid Party” for the Republicans. They’re not stupid, they’re led by men with degrees from some of the best universities in the country. Certainly Mittens isn’t stupid. What they are is crooks and upper class snobs. They can see the destruction Liberal beliefs are causing and they can see that imported votes will soon put them out of business as traditional Republicans. They see these things as well as you do. They just don’t care. They’re in it for the money today and they loathe the economic classes below them, they have no interest in ruling people for whom they have nothing but contempt. The trouble with calling them stupid is that it lets them off the hook. Stupid people can’t be held responsible for their errors. Better to term it the Crooked Party vs. the Evil Party. Or just call them a business lobby.

    I’ve often said that the nation and conservatism would be better off if every Republican who makes less than 200k a year quit the party and re-registered as Democrats. Then at least they would have some representation in government and the worst excesses of the Dems would be curbed. Seriously, that’s not a joke, the Republicans are quite literally worse than nothing as an opposition party. It’s hard to see what the Republican end game is, they apparently believe that they will still be able to service their rich clients as a permanent rump party with just enough power to veto or filibuster bills that go against the interests of their masters, that whites and conservatives will have no option but to continue supporting them. What’s likely to happen in the long run as Republicans become unelectable is that moderates and conservatives will start voting Democrat, which would likely cause a split by Leftists into a new party, and at long last, after two centuries of destruction, the Republican Party will fade into oblivion.

    As always in these things, it all comes down to the media. Control the media, control the country, and avoiding the wrath of our totalitarian media is the primary reason the Republicans have become crooks. They can’t win without placating the media, and the media won’t stand for anything that even slows the dispossession of white America.

  39. George's Gravatar George
    July 18, 2012 - 4:46 pm | Permalink

    @Tom:
    Tom; I for one agree that there is no reason to vote. It accomplishes nothing (especially in this new era of DieBold vote casting) but to participate in the charade and avert attention from finding real ways to initiate change. Republican/Democrat have been two sides of the same coin since WW1.

  40. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 18, 2012 - 4:50 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby: You’re quite right. There’s no doubt, too, that the Tribe has fully supported the shift to presidential dictatorship. The executive branch is now several hundred times larger in staffing terms than it was in Franklin Pierce’s day, but the payoff list is still about a thousand names shorter than it would be if the Congress and all its staffers still had a say in policymaking. Nowadays their primary concerns are (1) excessive weight gain from constant and habitual overeating and (2) injuries sustained in tripping over one another in a struggle to get to a microphone or camera first.

  41. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 18, 2012 - 4:52 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    God only helps those who help themselves, dude.

  42. George's Gravatar George
    July 18, 2012 - 4:54 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    “With all due respect, Iran and its safety are not my highest priority”
    – but it should be high on the priority list, Alice. War with Iran (for the sake of Israel and Iran’s oil reserves which our Oil Oligarchs have no right to) will not be like Iraq and Afghanistan- “a cake-walk”- it will be a serious conflict that will bring both Russia and China to the aid of Iran. Both those superpowers are dependent on Iranian oil or have friendly diplomatic relationships with Iran. We cannot afford the economic catastrophe that this war would bring to our already economically wrecked country. Beside that, I for one feel that any enemy of Israel and Jews in general should have our sympathy at the very least.

  43. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    July 18, 2012 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Regarding the Judeo vetted, two party fraudulent system, that politically sodomizes the credulous White public every four years: a plague on both their houses. If you feel compelled to vote, vote third party, you will sleep better.

  44. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    July 18, 2012 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: “Vote them all out, over and over again.”

    You can’t “vote them all out”. Not even once. Not as long as secret, privately-owned computer programs “count” your votes inside machines that don’t even allow you to print a copy of your choices for office.

  45. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 5:28 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    “God only helps those who help themselves, dude.”

    This is no different from saying, “those who help themselves, help themselves,” which is no different from saying, “Do it yourself.” The concept of “god” is therefore irrevelant.

  46. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Oh and if it isn’t already clear, no nation can possibly survive millions of hostile jews within its borders. Race-conscious Whites need to clear out and establish a base of power in some other country.

  47. Sanjay's Gravatar Sanjay
    July 18, 2012 - 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Great article. Informative. GOP should have the house and senate, Obama the presidency. Romney is a pure snake.

    My only complaint is that while you mention Whites are majority in US, you fail to make a strong note that they are rapidly disappearing minority overall.

    In 2011, Only 8 out of 100 kids born were White, globally.

  48. Sanjay's Gravatar Sanjay
    July 18, 2012 - 6:13 pm | Permalink

    @George:

    China’s dependence on Iranian oil is minor. Russia is a net exporter of oil.

    Both have diplomatic relations with Iran, but wont aid Iran militarily. Some obsolete weapons, perhaps, but not much.

    China will let US dig its own grave deeper and deeper with Iran.

    Remember, the goal of Jews is to bleed America and White countries.

  49. John's Gravatar John
    July 18, 2012 - 6:32 pm | Permalink

    There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two for anything important. But I’d like to see Romney win for one and only one reason. To see Tim Wise do his imitation of Rumpelstiltskin.

  50. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 6:45 pm | Permalink

    @George:
    I do not disagree, and I think that even Obama, Romney and the military see the dangers. I don’t think party matters in things like this. If Obama is holding out now, he will be freer after the election.

    I am far more horrified by his drone policy – which is slipping under the radar – virtually no press coverage. It is not like either party is on our side, but Obama wants to give us a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.

  51. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 18, 2012 - 7:00 pm | Permalink

    WRONG!

    Obama is a Communitarian.. So is Mitt Romney.
    It makes not difference who gets elected. Both are taking us towards Communitarianism…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rosIIteigNc

  52. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 18, 2012 - 7:04 pm | Permalink
  53. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 18, 2012 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Georgia Guide Stones

    THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
    2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
    4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
    9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
    10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

    Read Niki Raapana’s work on communitarianism and compare to what the Georgia Guide stones’s 10 commandments..

    (1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
    (promoting homosexuality, abortions, vaccinations causing infertility, chemtrails, etc..)

    (2) Promoting environmentalism.
    (Evironmentalism, global warming scam, sustainable developement, etc.. )

    (3) Establishing a world government.
    (European Union, G20, Arab Spring, Events of 9-11, global war on terror, etc..)

    (4) Promoting a new spirituality.
    (The Green Virgin – Pachamama / worshipping earth)

    http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2012/06/green-virgin-pachamama-final-balance.html

    etc. etc..

    now you know..

  54. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 18, 2012 - 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Communitarianism sucks!

  55. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 18, 2012 - 7:34 pm | Permalink

    @frogman: Obama might have been a one-termer, but Bush-43 gelded the GOP and, to a large extent the conservative movement, so I don’t think it’s going to happen. Ultimately, Bush was worse than useless. He was outright destructive to the American people and the welfare of the United States.

  56. omop's Gravatar omop
    July 18, 2012 - 7:37 pm | Permalink

    The Israeli Project and the names and fotos of the Republican and Democratic Congressmen/women and Senators who regularly visit Israel in addition to receiving funds from their PAC.

    http://mantiqaltayr.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/the-israel-project-and-us-congressmen/

  57. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 18, 2012 - 7:42 pm | Permalink

    What it boils down to is that both parties intend to screw white American citizens. There are all kinds of ridiculous excuses. The only minority groups that are going to vote for Repugnants in large numbers are the staunch conservative anti-communist anti-socialist Cubans in Miami. The rest will vote for Democruds. As for illegal alien foreigners who snuck into this country, they aren’t supposed to be able to vote, are they? Are foreign nationals allow to cast a vote? Therefore, this pandering is merely a lame excuse for attacking whites.

    As for Obama, aside from Erica Holder’s and Obama’s obvious antipathy to white Americans and consequent attacks on white Americans, such as the intervention to protect New Black Panther Party members from prosecution for harrassment and armed threats and intimidation of white voters at a Philadelphia polling place, and the pronouncement by Holder that everybody but whites are protected by the unconstitutional thought-crime Hate Crime Law promoted by the militant ADL, Obama has proven that he is a liar, a promise breaker, a tyrant, and an ardent enemy of our God-given rights.

    He asserts the right to extrajudicial murders of American citizens, extrajudicial internment of American citizens, to use the cowards tool known as the drone to spy on American citizens or to kill American citizens, and to make royal decrees known as executive orders. There is no excuse for anyone having elected him. He proved that he was a liar and a promise breaker by campaigning for the Senate with a promise to vote against the continuation of the Patriot Act (the dirty traitor’s act) when it came up for a vote at the date of the sunset clause. He proved himself to be a liar by voting for continuation of the treason.

    In addition, Obama is a Brzezinski and Soros puppet. Read Brzezinskis books or a review of them to see what that means (including the Technotronic Era book).

    Furthermore, the supposed Obama birth certificate is an obvious forgery. His actual birth status is still unclear but the birth certificate is a proven forgery. That is really immaterial because to be a natural born citizen one’s parents must both be American citizens. Not one of the two may be a citizen of Kenya or any other foreign country.

  58. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 18, 2012 - 7:46 pm | Permalink

    P.S. Some of the American citizens who were killed by drone were Arab-American muslim extremists. Why were they given citizenship in the first place?
    Why are Muslims being imported in the first place? It is due to the wish of some to facilitate terror and facilitate ethnic attacks on whites.

  59. George's Gravatar George
    July 18, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    “Oh and if it isn’t already clear, no nation can possibly survive millions of hostile jews within its borders. Race-conscious Whites need to clear out and establish a base of power in some other country.”
    I agree with you, but consider that there is not even one political organization devoted to furthering the welfare of whites in this, or for that matter any other Western nation (that I know of, at any rate). So what country would we establish this base of power in? Is there any country other than possibly Russia (definitely not Western), where the Jew does not rule by proxy if not outright? What country would take such whites in? Whites in the British Isles have been trying to emigrate to the US for years because conditions there are even worse than they are here (and the US gov’t will not grant them entry visas- “only people of color” gain easy entry). Aside from that, most whites seem afraid to even acknowledge concern for their own race’s welfare and then there are the multitude who either have it good (being Philo Semites themselves) or those content with the scraps they receive from the Jewish table or those who are simply afraid to “rock the boat” lest they be labelled anti-Semites, racists, bigots, etc. Where would the support for this movement come from? Covington has been hawking his idea of a Northwest Front for about a decade now and I do not see much support for it-, even those who comment on his website regularly use fictitious names. Fear rules the white psyche today. Fear of ostracism, fear of the Jew, fear of losing one’s job (if you have one to begin with), fear of becoming “involved”. Add to that a guilt complex for even being white courtesy of the “educational system” and whites imitating black behavior and the odds of success in establishing a white enclave seem insurmountable.

  60. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 18, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    P.S. I do not believe that you can be pro-white and pro Islam. Look at what Muslims do to Indigenous Britons, Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, and Gauls. It is not just religious, it is ethnic. The Near Eastern religions are a curse and a stand-down psyop for white/Nordic people.

  61. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    @fender: God isn’t a genie. You’re confusing the post-Platonic/Christian notion of God with the ancient conceptions of gods. Merely propitiating God doesn’t ensure that you’ll get what you want. The Muslims believe that God puts His finger on the scale like that here on earth and in heaven. The Jews apparently believe that God puts his finger on the scale for his tribe regardless of their behavior.

    Christianity doesn’t teach that.

  62. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 8:02 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Where? Europe? Australia? Canada? Argentina?

  63. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 18, 2012 - 8:03 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Ha,hahah…….of course Pierre. Afterall, I have read that Washington D.C. has approximately 6,000 restaurants, so again your’e quite right in food being an obession with these cretons.

  64. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 8:04 pm | Permalink

    @Connor McNessa: And dont’ forget what they do in Russia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Cyprus, and Greece…

  65. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    But Jews will vote for Obama about 70%.

  66. July 18, 2012 - 8:08 pm | Permalink

    @omop: I have to marvel at stupid and malformed “Christians” who support this antichrist thesis peddled by the likes of various Zionist stooges, both religious and political. As a Catholic, I know and have been well-formed in the faith to understand the words of Christ. I was formed years ago before the current Great Apostasy in the Church so the diabolical deception of the Judaics as “elder brothers” in the faith was a laughable, heretical gobble of nonsense.

    Christ, for Christians, did not come to abolish the Word of God but to FULFILL it. Zionist stooges do not understand that FULFILL means culminate, end, take up into Himself. It’s finito, done, completed. Israel no longer exists in the flesh, as a location, a place, but through Him becomes a locus in the Faith. We are Israel. That monstrosity pullulating through the world polluting nations through deception and violence is NOT Israel. It is merely counterfeit Israel, an antichrist on the world scene, an enemy allied to the ancient adversary. The Church is Israel, the locus of Faith united to the Church Triumphant in Heaven as part of Christ’s Mystical Body.

    Ziono-Christians who hold the belief of counterfeit Israel as true Israel are due a comeuppance. They reject Christ as the Son of the Father Who sent Him. Their payment for rejecting the cornerstone is gruesome, but due them for their crimes against the Salvator.

  67. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Since we’re talking about how corrupt people rise to and maintain power in a democracy, some of you may be interested in the writings of Pobedonostsev.

    http://academic.shu.edu/russianhistory/index.php/Konstantin_Pobedonostsev%2C_Reflections_of_a_Russian_Statesman

    Over 100 years ago, and decades before the Bolshevik Revolution, he was fully aware of the destructive power that Jews have over societies that allow them to control the flow of information.

  68. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 8:20 pm | Permalink

    The absolute best outcome for the next four years is total political gridlock.

    That does seem best. Both candidates are horrible. The GOP Establishment will likely push amnesty as a way to win Hispanics (the silliest political quest in my lifetime. I don’t even think they believe it). Obama is potentially very dangerous because I fear he hates Whites more than we realize. His father hated Whites and his mother went out of her way to avoid White men. Both parents disliked …. hated Whites passionately. As Pierre alluded, Presidents have near dictatorial power now.

    However, being under another 4 years of the Mulatto might finally force conservative Whites to reevaluate their institutions and their blind trust in them.

  69. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 18, 2012 - 8:25 pm | Permalink

    @George:

    I’ve routinely suggested Russia as a good place for Whites to go. “Not Western?” Would you prefer negrophilic Sweden, England, or France? The West isn’t even Western anymore.

    In addition I believe the reason why Russia hasn’t embraced multiracialism to the extent the West has is BECAUSE it’s not Western. Western Civilization was always based on liberalism and egalitarianism, expanding freedom to everyone. Russia never had that tradition.

    So the question is, do you want to live in a Western society or a White society? Unless there’s some kind of revolution in England or Germany or Sweden then Russia may be the only hope for Whites.

  70. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 8:31 pm | Permalink

    @Facio Libre:
    Interesting link, thanks!

  71. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 9:11 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius:
    Interesting voice. Thanks!

  72. Lookaroundu's Gravatar Lookaroundu
    July 18, 2012 - 9:13 pm | Permalink

    @Felix: A logical conclusion. TRP’s explanation, no doubt shared by other true believers, requires some ridiculous mental gymnastics. What moral or intellectual value does such a jumbled, contradictory story have? Zilch.

  73. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 18, 2012 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius: Thank you. I’ll read this tomorrow. The capsule bio of Pobedonostsev and the first few paragraphs of the text both call to mind a hero of mine: Joseph de Maistre. As you may know, he, too, was deemed an archreactionary in his own time.

    Reaction … ah, what a sweet word it is.

  74. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 18, 2012 - 9:25 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Given that Romney is running away from victory as fast as he can, your reluctant prediction of four more Obamanable years is looking ever more like a sure thing. (With Obama’s ads attacking Romney for a poor job creation record while lauding his own, why didn’t the jerk retort that Obama may have created jobs but he also imported the wetbacks and wogs to fill them?) Pray heaven, then, that your other hunch—anent an Obama second term “finally forc[ing] conservative Whites to reevaluate their institutions and their blind trust in them”—pans out, too.

  75. Lookaroundu's Gravatar Lookaroundu
    July 18, 2012 - 9:32 pm | Permalink

    @H.Woods: Actually, I suspect Sam Francis was referring to the loyal Republican voter base as the stupid ones. Some people never learn. If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Not these clowns. Once elected, the Republicrooks don’t give a fig about their cretinous supporters. Much the same goes for the Democrooks and their voter base. Two messages to gain office, each meant for one of two voter bases. Same result either way.

  76. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 18, 2012 - 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Both evil, neither stupid. IRS says so.

  77. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 9:59 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: In a Democracy, the real rulers are the dexterous manipulators of votes, with their henchmen, the mechanics who so skillfully operate the hidden springs which move the puppets in the arena of democratic elections. Men of this kind are ever ready with loud speeches lauding equality; in reality, they rule the people as any despot or military dictator might rule it…

    Something written 130 years ago that is right on point with this discussion…

  78. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 10:01 pm | Permalink

    In our age the judgment of others has assumed an organized form, and calls itself Public Opinion. Its organ and representative is the Press. In truth, the importance of the Press is immense, and may be regarded as the most characteristic fact of our time – more characteristic even than our remarkable discoveries and inventions in the realm of technical science. No government, no law, no custom can withstand its destructive activity when, from day to day, through the course of years, the Press repeats and disseminates among the people its condemnations of institutions or of men.

  79. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 10:02 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Yes, I thought Whites were implicitly becoming more racial, so a wet rag could beat Obama. I wasn’t counting on something quite as pathetic as the Romney campaign, so I don’t know. Of course, regardless of who wins, we lose (for now).

    It is painful to see basically good people, these White conservatives, so stupidly and naively go along with slaughter of everything they hold dear, including their own children’s future. I think they have gotten dumber over the last generation. At one time, conservatives knew they were pro-White, at least on some level. They also could sense there was corruption in our “elite” circles. But today, many of them are post-racial, NeoCon types who worship Israel with the same zeal we used to hold for our own traditions.

    I’m afraid these people will have to be hit on the head several times before anything changes. And I’m not sure that will do it anytime soon. I used to think White Liberals were the most naive people around. Not so – these White conservatives make liberals look like shrewd wheeler-dealers.

  80. Dave Francis's Gravatar Dave Francis
    July 18, 2012 - 10:06 pm | Permalink

    ADD YOUR VOTE TO THE TEA PARTY AND STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND OTHER FINANCIAL ISSUES.

    If you read about the issues covering everybody’s lives in the United States of America, it illustrates the dimensions of complete indifference to many major concerns which includes illegal immigration. Nothing is being constructed in the way of bills, to get us out of the extreme mess. The do and don’ts are easily perceived, which includes the closing of immigrant and migrant entry ports along our Southern border. When we have illegal aliens, minor criminals or not and those smuggling drugs into America, along with floods of the poor people attracted by both political parties, which is unfortunate for low income American labor. Then we have Obama’s boys genuflecting to the environmental zealots, and the green dream that has become a nightmare for average Americans who are paying high prices for gas, to commute to work, when an administration is bypassing the working people of this country, when we have an abundance of energy just below the ground of oil, natural gas and even coal.

    We have a supply that is almost inexhaustible from “The People’s lands”. Yet however we are being starves from these deposits, by radical groups of environmentalists. Mitt Romney will open the spigots so energy flows freely, and not only will reduce the U.S. Treasury deficit of $16 trillion dollars, but we have enough over to sell to our friends abroad. Subsequently over time we can slowly insist the energy companies to develop new methods of cleaning their energy products.

    The TEA PARTY is the only true way to invest in the future America, along with a few morally upright Democrats and Republicans. So much needs to be done, since we have been betrayed by both parties. The political issue that is ordained to be of paramount importance to citizens is the illegal immigration storm. Although the overall economy and jobs maybe at the top of the list, it is connected to illegal aliens coming through our borders, or just overstaying visitors or tourist visas. So many problems are associated by the unfettered movement throughout this sovereign nation that our financial system is affected by people with no status? The courts have determined we must give them free health care and this has accelerated under Obamacare, as it will surely attract more people from every country, who can afford an airline ticket?

    Not forgetting the mass surge from central and South America who are already crowding the frontier towns in Mexico and is an imminent disaster. These are unfunded mandates of Education for foreign kids and medical treatment for the whole extended family, as they use the smuggled child as a ‘foothold’ to gain entrance to America. States forfeit their rights as we have seen in the intimidation of frantic states trying to survive the illegal immigration invaders. Arizona has been hit the hardest as they are the first stop once slipping by the U.S. border Patrol and the radical illegal immigration organizations that are trying to distort the law. With the backing of the ACLU (created by Communists) and other advocacy groups, who are for open border, believing that we should house, medicate and educate every impoverished individual claiming some right to be here.

    THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT HAVE FINANCES TO SUPPORT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME HERE; LET ALONE THE 20 MILLION ALREADY LIVING HERE USING STOLEN IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS. Many states are weighted down Liberal assemblies, such as the spotlighted state of California, shuddering from job losses and an economy that’s failing, with the chance of filing bankruptcy. Illegal Immigration has been costly situation that for decades has doubled, tripled into the millions, that state taxpayers are forced to pay, with no relieve is sight—and never will under the intense influence of either the Democrats, Republicans and in certainly not the Liberals and their agenda of political correctness.

    Then what about the war in Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban? After 10 years what have we accomplished? Nothing! Over 2000 American troops have given their lives, and we are sending 8 billions of dollars a month to a very corrupt government. Like most of
    the Middle East they are still living under archaic laws, where women have no rights. This is disgusting and morally wrong. Lets bring our brave troops home and spend our money on a deteriorating infrastructure of roads, bridges, tunnels Let’s spend our money on a real border fence and a National Guard fully armed to halt the drug cartels, and the never ending stream of criminals and illegal aliens. The billions of dollars spent on protecting other countries, should go to our elderly folk, our homeless and our military when they come home.

    We have unfair tax system that awards only the privileged, the wealthy, the corporations and many other powerful entities with many paying nothing into the tax pool. The TEA PARTY LEADERSHIP will rescind and bring into service a much more fair and impartial system.

    Pro-sovereignty organizations are stirring rightfully the pot, as it’s no longer just Obama’s mentors pressing for immigration rights; not of course determining the difference between those who legally came here and the larger majority that disrespected the laws and entered anyway? Of course this has been duly noted by both parties, but they too have disregarded the invasion and allowed it to happen. Illegal immigration to Border States has become a very expensive proposition, in some cases billions of dollars for the uncompensated health care, education, with the dollar figure rising all the time.

    Only two bills that is designed to remove illegal aliens from the workplace, remains in inert and that being ‘THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ (H.R. 2885), known through the business world as E-Verify and a very urgent measure and bill known as ‘THE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP ACT (H.R.140). If all citizens and lawful residents bombarded each and every Senator, Congress person with these demands an enacting these laws, it would slowly but surely close to deliberate loopholes to halt illegal immigration. Further the TEA PARTY also supports these laws, but both parties in the aisles of CONGRESS, refuse to enact them. From what I have read, most have come to the realization that any law is subdued, so both parties can get more votes or illegal workers. Otherwise doesn’t it make more sense to make illegal entry or purposely staying as a criminal FELONY?

    The Department of Justice have attacked the sovereignty of individual states, but do nothing—NOTHING—against sanctuary states and cities that undermine the ‘’ is Federal Immigration and Nationality Act Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

    ‘”Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”

    The TEA PARTY will enforce these laws and hold accountable Democrat Governor of Deval Patrick who has indicated that he will protect illegal aliens from ICE, Liberal Mayor of Los Angeles Antonio R. Villaraigosa, who allegiance is to Mexico and not in protecting the citizens of the county. Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago who has publicized he will not cooperate with ICE, so he will also face harsh sanctions. That every Governor, Mayor and elected official who is pandering to Illegal aliens, ‘NOT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS’ must be deported for breaking our laws.

    Join the TEA PARTY in your town, your city and see the change in America, see a real change. There will never be any change under a majority of Democrats or even the Republicans. Keep on voting in TEA PARTY leadership that can change America forever. Either President Obama or Former Governor Mitt Romney should be answerable to ‘The People’ as with a Liberal Progressives Socialist agenda and limit the powerful Capitalist machine are wrong and will be ended by the millions of TEA PARTY voters. Voting for Obama just means more taxes and more spending. But by voting the TEA PARTY GUIDANCE into the Republican Party, we can alter the route of the GOP leadership and remove the incumbents and rebuild the party into a true conservative party? We can shut both political parties by ushering in as many TEA PARTY politicians into Congress, to do our bidding.

    Read about the corruption in your state, the federal government at ‘Judicial Watch’. Read about your taxpayer money going to support the illegal alien invasion at NumbersUSA. For the Democrats elicit Votes, as they pay no heed to non citizens violating our election laws; in fact they a complicit in allowing them to vote in any government election, which has been proved over and over again. Whereas the Republicans are not without fault, as they are importing slave labor. IT MUST STOP?

  81. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 10:19 pm | Permalink

    @Lancashire lad:
    It sounds good, but we still have millions here who are reproducing at a very high rate.

  82. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 18, 2012 - 10:19 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: But will people wake up before the demographic tipping point?

  83. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 10:35 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius:
    No, I don’t think we will. Our best hope is to demand equal rights, restore the right of association, and end affirmative action. We will divide up into de facto segregated communities interspersed with multicultural cities. When California demands a bailout from the rest of the country it will tip the scale.

    We are all embarressed by this election because no one wants to admit how bad the situation is. The financial system is falling under the weight of its own corruption. Black run cities like Camden NJ are no longer fit for human habitation. We are all whistling past the graveyard – but it can’t hold for long.

    The saddest bit of news I have heard lately is the new moniker for kids now – generation screwed! We owe them so much better.

  84. Fynn's Gravatar Fynn
    July 18, 2012 - 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Romney is a total shill for the establishment, but I think is a better candidate than given credit for. E.g., he’s better than McCain was. He’s a bit snide and smart-alecky at times when he slips up, but Obama can be too. If it’s true that people vote with their pocketbooks, Romney should have a chance – but Americans voted for Roosevelt when the economy was in the tank, probably because he gave the appearnce of doing something and promising them stuff. It won’t matter much either way, but the decline will happen a little faster under Obama. War with Iran could be much deadlier for all concerned than Afghanistan and Iraq combined – Obama might be less inclined to go along with Netanyahu et al in a second term, thinking he has less to lose if the dog has a go at wagging the tail for a change, not vice versa. Ron Paul never had a chance and is a relic of a bygone era.

  85. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    @Athanasius:

    But will people wake up before the demographic tipping point?

    That is the key question and we can only hope. However, if enough Whites do wake up, they will be able to secure a future for themselves and their children, because Whites have proven themselves capable of overcoming incredible odds.

    And to add an addendum, as I have learned more about the history of “White Nationalism” and various similar movements, I’ve come to the conclusion that most of them have been a heavy negative on trying to enlighten Whites. Everything related to the N*zi movement inside the US has been horribly damaging to our side over the last 60 years.

    To this day, you have these, horrible, sad, “skinheads” that insist on being the public face of our cause (with the media’s eager help). And of course, some say half of all these tiny groups are paid informants. They are controlled opposition as well.

    Then you have the Hitler worshipers, who build entire websites around him and saddle us with that. I wonder how much further along we would have been without them?

  86. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 18, 2012 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    @Bohemianh:

    “Is there any outcome other than Ron Paul that would change anything really?”

    Yes, there are several…But lets deal with the most likely:
    The election is so close that it comes down to mass demonstations in the streets by both the demo-rats and re-puke-ians which could lead to direct confrontation, civil unrest and Marshall Law.
    But since the Jewish controlled administration is currently run by Blacks and their anti white liberal allies most of those killed to “Disperse the mob” will be whites, as when the four white student protesters were killed on the campus of Kent State.
    A scenario such as this might…just might cause whites to grow an identity

  87. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 18, 2012 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

    @Felix. Good point about the change in voice. When you look at the Old Testament there is even a change in deities from time to time. The harsh one is the El Shaddai (Lord Of The Mount) character. Sometimes the plural “gods” are mentioned and the Hebrews were not always monotheists. Even when they were, they believed that other gods existed but that they had their own (jealous) tribal god to whom they owed alleigiance and who would favor them.

    I think that if there really were non-human beings speaking to the Hebrews in the Old Testament days, they were either extraterrestrial malefactors or time travelling malefactors:) Malevolent beings manipulating history and humans for the worse. I say that somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

    I would say that they succeded in hindering the development of humans immensely. Consider the progress that the ancient Greeks and Romans made in mathematics, engineering, and other fields and I would say that if there was not something quite amiss, we should have reached our stage of technological development about 1,000 years earlier than we did. Consider the Antikythera Mechanism and that the jet engine had ancient origins.
    http://voices.yahoo.com/the-ancient-origin-jet-engine-697014.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

  88. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Well said. You mentioned this:

    Our best hope is to demand equal rights, restore the right of association, and end affirmative action

    The problem with this, of course, is that the other side has no interest in granting us any of that , and with every day, they gain a firmer grip on the whip hand.

  89. George's Gravatar George
    July 18, 2012 - 10:53 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    Fender:
    Well, aside from the difficulty involved in getting a sponsor, finding employment, financing the move, etc., (and learning the Russian language at my age) there is the matter of their quotas. They have not stupidly abandoned the system of limiting immigration to their country as we have. Only so many Americans will be admitted. Period. And we do not enjoy amicable relations with that nation at this time (thanks again to our Jewish friends, who try to blackball Putin at every turn). And some how it rankles in the extreme to give up what whites built over the past centuries only to run away from the problem as always, rather than confront it. In a way this is the ultimate “white flight”. Beside that, if Covington (and others) couldn’t even lure fearful whites into moving to a region of the US where at least for now there are no restrictions, no quotas, no paperwork and applications for entry visas, no sponsorship requirements, no language barrier- what makes you think that American whites will cross an ocean to face an unknown future in a foreign land instead?

  90. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 10:56 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    We still have numbers. I will admit to being prejudiced in my youth. Kids today learn the reverse and are really shocked when they hit reality. We have a whole new cohort of kids who may not be with us, but who have had a bellyful of PC and are heading into a very tough world. My guess is that they will get tough fast and start demanding answers to questions that haven’t been asked in decades. We live in interesting times.

  91. George's Gravatar George
    July 18, 2012 - 10:59 pm | Permalink

    @Dave Francis:
    “The TEA PARTY is the only true way to invest in the future America, ….”

    Oh pulllleeeeeease! ROFL

  92. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Maybe, if we are very, very good, our friends the Israelis will continue to deliver Christian Zionists messages like this.

    http://news.yahoo.com/religious-israeli-lawmaker-tears-testament-101541114.html

  93. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    @George:

    With regard to Covington, this is another example of what I think has been SO wrong about WN in the past. We don’t need big talking “leaders” to corral us around like cattle. I heard his show and it was a lot of bombast sprinkled with profanity. What White person is going to follow that?

  94. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 18, 2012 - 11:27 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    We do live in interesting times and I don’t know how it will work out. All I can say is, I can’t see avoiding a lot of conflict over the coming decades. Mestizo numbers are growing and they aren’t going anywhere (although they aren’t that aggressive and most are not politically inclined). Blacks aren’t going anywhere. And Jews ain’t leaving. Whites have numbers at the moment, but less than 50% of newborns are White. As time goes by, we will be smaller and older.

    I suppose my greatest fear is that we become like Brazil. But it could be worse, because we have many more Jews, and they have such a grudge against us (especially the Leftist Jews) that on my worst days, it seems pretty grim.

  95. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    July 18, 2012 - 11:28 pm | Permalink

    @fender:
    Thanks..
    Did you good folks know Obongo has ‘Diversity Visas’?
    That he does what he can to bring in Muslims and Africans?
    I dont claim to know much about Government Finance but BHO is way overspending. That much I know.
    Romney is White, a family man, a mormon.
    BHO is a communist, anti white, anti american.
    Is all for open borders. etcetcetc.

    Comments anyone?

  96. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 18, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller. Yes, I saw that nice piece at another site! The irony is that the Christian faith is what is protecting all anti-white racists from retribution!

  97. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 18, 2012 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    If we give up hope, we doom ourselves.

  98. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 18, 2012 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    “If enough whites do wake up, They can secure a future for themselves and their children”
    You paraphrase David Lane. Who was the titular head of the most violent WN group in the modern era. And who espoused the exact same philosophy as Adolf Hitler, Geoge Lincoln Rockwell, Skin-heads, And the third era Ku Klux Klan. They all believed in white survival.
    So tell us just what sets you above all these groups and individuals. Since you SEEM to believe exactly the same thing as they. If you are too good be associated with the likes of Robert Mathews, Robert Shelton, Commander Rockwell, Tom Metzger, etc. what EXACTLY are you doing here?
    What is YOUR grand plan..love your enemies to death???
    You once asked me in a very insulting tone what I have done for white survival, and then proceeded to make fun of me and my “church”
    So now its my turn. What have YOU done for white people other than criticise, obfuscate, and talk out both sides of your mouth.

  99. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    July 19, 2012 - 12:01 am | Permalink

    A3P.

    And if you absolutely can’t and won’t join and support A3P, join the mass party of the White race, and look for people who want to move specific policies in a more pro-White direction and help them. The mass party of the White race is the Republican Party. Even though objectively it’s anti-White, that is where White people are.

  100. Peters's Gravatar Peters
    July 19, 2012 - 12:16 am | Permalink

    Reading the comments is sometimes more informative than the essays themselves. Of course one cannot but notice certain patterns, such as Jason Speaks and some others deflecting any criticism of Jews to muslims and Hispanics (but is it a surprise that TOO is getting the attention of hasbara? The real surprise is that there seems to be so little of it). The other thing one notices are people’s pet projects, such as Fender’s pipe dream of everyone moving to Russia and founding a happier place for us, white folks.

    Having lived for several years in Russia as well as one of the Baltic states, I may be uniquely qualified to address that idea. The short answer is – Fender, you must be out of your mind! Indeed, you are either a Russian yourself, selling the former Motherland, or.. you know absolutely nothing about the realities of Russia and of Russians. I vote for the latter. Your fantasies are baseless and your time spent fantasizing ill spent. What you find in Russia will be a mix of white trash, alcoholics, and inner city gettos. Nothing to be proud of. A lot to be afraid of. Of course, they will all be white (although the majority not as I define whites – green or more recessive eye color). Moving there will only ensure that you will be robbed by white people, your sons will befriend white drugdealers, and your daughters will be abused by white alcoholics. A step up? Perhaps. But then there are problems with an extremely low birth rate, excessive immigration from the “stans” (former Soviet, muslim republics), intra-Russian movement to the “white” regions from the Caucasus (think Chechens), the fact that the wealth is owned by the largely Jewish oligarchs, and that the government of Russia does not usually have the interests of the russian muzhik in mind. I think that Russia will be done with before the Germanic Europe. I would like to recommend websites to learn about Russia, but without the knowledge of the language it would be useless.

    The idea of founding a new homeland in Russia is ludicrous. Get it out of your head. Your time, and that of others here, would be better spent elsewise. Unfortunately I cannot offer anything better. Insofar as moving someplace, ideally, you want a place with natural borders (Iceland, Norway, Switzerland), genetically homogenous people (Iceland, Norway), good genes and a culture of keeping the outsiders out (Switzerland). But of course the whole idea of moving in great numbers is ludicrous, except in the aftermath of some great war or economic upheaval. 

    It is my opinion that the white culture as we knew it in the 20th century is over. The countries will stay, as administrative units, but as the modern Greeks have little genetic commonality with the ancient Greeks, so will Sweden and Denmark as localities with blue and grey eyed people cease to exist. Yes, we deserve better. No, Mother Nature does not care.

  101. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 19, 2012 - 12:21 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: RE the mestizos. 2 points.

    1. The fairly newly arrived Mexicans aren’t that aggressive. The majority are not but a fairly large minority of them are aggressive (maybe 20%). The sad part is that when they get “assimilated” they become assimilated inner city hip hop types and “assimilated” “chicanos.” Big trouble. Think Brown Berets, Crusade for Justice, and Reconquista. What percentage? I would guess 50%. Second or third generation immigrants, 50% chip on the shoulder or reconquista hostility.
    2. Another irony: Remember when Eva Longoria, who obviously is mostly Spanish with a little Indian and less black ancestry, discovered when she had a DNA analysis done and discovered that she was mostly “white?” In other words mostly Spanish. She was extremely dissapointed. Most of the most vocal, millitant, and belligerent anti-white Mexicans are like Eva Longoria and they think that they are non-white (and 50% Indian or more) but are mostly Spanish. This is just something that I have noticed in my extensive experience with Mexicans. Most of the real mestizos are not as extreme as the Spanish-Mexicans in my extensive experience of them.

    Anthropoligical note: if a Mexican has a relatively narrow head (side-to-side), wavy to curly hair but sometimes straight hair, slender physique, usually a long, narrow face and other Mediterranean traits, that person is usually mostly Spanish. The Spanish part is probably mostly Andalusian. Many andalusians are often largely of Arabic and Berber descent. Spain was a Muslim Berber and Arab (from North Africa) colony for about 700 years. It took 700 years for the Christians, fighting tooth-and-nail, to retake their country (and now their “elites” are giving it back, go figure). Most of the lower class Spanish people in Latin America are of Andalusian ancestry.

    American Indians almost always are wide-headed from side to side, not long headed from front to back, have a broad face with large, laterally projecting cheekbones, have a stocky build (in Mexico not the American Great Plains), and have yellowish to light brown skin. The skin-color obessed crowd is fooled by skin color. Many Andalusians, Berbers, Arabs, or even Italians for that matter, are darker skinned than many American Indians.

    It is not in the best interests of American citizens to have massive immigration. However, one thing that I used to like about Mexicans was that they hated what they called “mayates” (dung beetles, blacks). They seemed in many ways determined to keep them in check. A valuable service. Then they whole-heartedly threw in their lot with Obama. I have noticed a marked increase in anti-white hostility among Mexicans since the beginning of Obama’s campaign. They seem to have an “of color” against the white man attitude. In fact, many many of the “people of color” seem to be drunk on the “our side won” adrenaline and testosterone high that has been proven to occur when fans (fanatics) back a winning team, in soccer, football, or politics. The result is a violent rampage. Let’s take away their adrenaline and testosterone increase and stop the rampages (“teen flashmobs”)!

  102. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 12:33 am | Permalink

    @henry baxley:

    If I was making post after post about a silly “church” I had created on the internet, I would expect to be ridiculed. This forum isn’t supposed to be a flea market for various multi-level-marketing schemes.

  103. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 12:38 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Alice teller wrote:
    Kids today learn the reverse and are really shocked when they hit reality. We have a whole new cohort of kids who may not be with us, but who have had a bellyful of PC and are heading into a very tough world. My guess is that they will get tough fast and start demanding answers to questions that haven’t been asked in decades.”

    Don’t forget that we are just one flash mob away from them giving us their undivided attention and full cooperation.

  104. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 12:44 am | Permalink

    @Connor McNessa:

    Conner McNessa wrote:
    “Let’s take away their adrenaline and testosterone increase and stop the rampages (“teen flashmobs”)!”

    Let’s not!

    Let’s encourage them instead to flashmob Whites into a raging violent guerrilla military force!

  105. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 19, 2012 - 12:48 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    You wrote:

    “Don’t forget that we are just one flash mob away from them giving us their undivided attention and full cooperation.”

    That does not mean that pro-White people should pretend to be Blacks and try to stir up violence against other Whites.

    Which is what you seem to have advocated in the past.

    A few months ago, under a different article (here :http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/04/anti-white-hatred-is-mainstream-in-the-media-and-the-schools/)

    You wrote:

    “A good strategy for recruiting Whites into the resistance, or at least seeing them get punished for their inactivity, would be to encourage these kind of negro mobs going into White areas, especially the liberal White areas that have been the source of anti-racist sentiments. The best way to educate Whites on racial matters is with a baseball bat. Don’t even try to appeal to their reason—they don’t have any.

    It would be so easy to send out a twitter message that resulted in a flash mob. Perhaps the one mentioned above was sent by a clever White Nationalist. One wonders what the effect would be if WNs started going onto black websites or other twitter sites and started instigating flash mobs. It would be best if they did it from a public computer.”

  106. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    @Connor McNessa:

    Very interesting anthropological background. Yes, I’ve noticed that in the long run, those who are only partly Mestizo, end up siding with the Anti-Whites. I’ve noticed it among various mixed race people I’ve known. Some were even fairly conservative, but when push comes to shove, they throw in with the other side, for a variety of reasons.

    And it is true that browns and blacks don’t mix that well in daily life. Nor do the various browns (Mestizos, Muslims, Filipinos) mix that well among themselves. Someday, their lack of real unity may be a real asset to us.

    I have also noticed more Anti-White hostility from Mestizos/Mexicans. It used to be that they desperately wanted to fit into White America (at least the better among them). Not so much now. Some of that must be a function of their larger numbers, although some of it may be the ever increasing Anti-White culture we live in.

    Has anyone else noticed how frighteningly Politically Correct so many young people are? Sure, they make the occasional ethnic slur or “mean” joke, but when it gets serious, they all seem to fall in line – I am talking about the Whites. They are not all that way, and many see the problems we face, but I’ve been a bit shocked by how much they don’t rebel against what they are taught. Remember the old line that they are so naturally rebellious? Apparently, that was just pushed when the elites were promoting Cultural Marxism. Now that they have triumphed, they have no more need of rebels.

  107. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 12:51 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Yes, I did say that and I meant every word of it then and now.

  108. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 19, 2012 - 1:00 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    I don’t doubt that you stand by it.

    That doesn’t mean your plan is good for Whites in the short or long term.

    My main purpose in sharing your old comment was to let others know that you advocate illegal violence against White people.

    You want pro-White people to pretend to be Black in order to harm White people.

  109. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 1:01 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    What is your view like from the Hoover building there at the FBI? Funny, you have all these ideas but YOU don’t seem to do any of the illegal stuff you allude to.

  110. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 1:03 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    I think he’s one of two things: A government agent trying to discredit pro-Whites, or a guy that lives in la-la land playing out Rambo fantasies, that get OTHER people arrested.

  111. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:05 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Jason Speaks Hebrew said:

    “Funny, you have all these ideas but YOU don’t seem to do any of the illegal stuff you allude to.”

    What makes you think that?

  112. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 1:09 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    Okay, so you’re an FBI guy. Well I must say, it must be easier than street work, right? I know you get credit and I assume promotions for roping somebody in, but surely you realize no one around here will ever have an interest in the activity you mention.

    So what’s the game? Is it just an operation to discredit the site and sites like it in general?

  113. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:12 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Jason Speaks Hebrew said:

    “I think he’s one of two things: A government agent trying to discredit pro-Whites, or a guy that lives in la-la land playing out Rambo fantasies, that get OTHER people arrested.”

    Dear Rabbi Speaks:

    Would you please call the Pentagon and tell them to stop all of these violent homo-Nazi Rambo-like fantasies that you speak of so often and tell them to have the US military stand down and start a series of discussions and negotiations with al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

    Let us know tomorrow at this time what the Pentagon’s response was.

    Thank you.

  114. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:19 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Rabbi Speaks wrote:

    “So what’s the game? Is it just an operation to discredit the site and sites like it in general?”

    Why would such talk discredit this site or others?

    Surely you are aware that oppressed people have used guerrilla warfare to get rid of large oppressive military dictatorships. I’m talking about in Vietnam, Brazil, Algeria, specifically. There have been others.

  115. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 1:30 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    As an SPLC guy (or girl, sorry, don’t mean to be politically incorrect), you know none of those groups in the past went into public, recorded, monitored sites, sites that have permanent records, and typed their plans out. The only people encouraging them to do so were their enemies.

    In general, we are under no obligation to discuss any specific plans or policies for the future (and I am talking about the purely legal ones). It is always the game of oppressors to sucker dissidents into getting themselves arrested or trying to smear them.

  116. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:37 am | Permalink

    Rabbi Speaks said:
    “In general, we are under no obligation to discuss any specific plans or policies for the future.”

    Nobody is asking you to discuss any specific plans or policies for the future.

    What are you going to say when Mitt “My father was born in Mexico!” Romney picks a non-white for VP? Or even if he doesn’t he’ll still be trying to jerk Whites around and that will be very apparent soon enough.

    Will you then continue trying to sabotage this and other websites with the idea that there is a non-violent way out of this??

    I can understand that you as a Jew can’t stand the thought of Whites resorting to physical violence against the enemy.

    There is no political solution to the racial problem Whites face and fortunately there are no moral questions either.

  117. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 1:51 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    This website is connected to A3P, which is participating in the legal democratic process. If you think that “sabotages” the site, take it up with MacDonald.

  118. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:54 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Rabbi Speaks wrote:

    Mark said: ‘Surely you are aware that oppressed people have used guerrilla warfare to get rid of large oppressive military dictatorships. I’m talking about in Vietnam, Brazil, Algeria, specifically. There have been others.’

    Rabbi Speaks responded with:
    “you know none of those groups in the past went into public, recorded, monitored sites, sites that have permanent records, and typed their plans out.”

    That’s because they didn’t have computers in those days, moron Jewboy!
    However, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and other dissident groups do it regularly nowadays.

  119. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    July 19, 2012 - 2:06 am | Permalink

    Yes, Obama does not like White working or middle class people. But neither does Romney.

    We need to examine what Obama does rather than what he says. Like most liberals, he believes in symbolism over substance and that is a good thing for Whites. Take amnesty, for example.

    Unlike that mealy-mouthed, compassionate conservative, warmongering doofus, Dubya, he doesn’t push for Amnesty Part DUH like the McCain Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill.

    He has never had a border guard arrested for shooting a Mexican drug runner like Bush did with Compean and Ramos. During his administration, border guards freely fire back when fired upon.

    Obama has prosecuted more companies who hire illegals while Bush winked at such antics.

    Obama made a big production of kinda-sorta going along with the DREAM act by not having immigration going after Mexican college students who were already living in sanctuary cities and enjoying in-state tuition anyway. However, he did not enfranchise them. All he offered them was a chance to apply for two-year work permits. Unlike the stupid Repugnants, he was not prepared to give the store away.

    Yes, Fast and Furious was a bungled attempt on our second amendment gun rights, but the upshot is that it backfired miserably. It did get the weapons into the hands of Mexican drug cartels who have made our borders an impassable no-man’s land to more Mexican border jumpers.

    Obama is being blamed for screwing up the economy. I don’t think that’s totally fair. Offshoring American factories didn’t begin with Obama and only escalated under Bush. His stimulus QE on the money is only making things worse. But the fact is, that most Mexicans and South Americans who can’t drop a litter and get on welfare are self-deporting, because there are no jobs.

    His “soak the rich” schemes to support his black brothas will inevitably target upper middle class productive Whites who DO have the option to quit producing. The economy will further deteriorate forcing more and more people, especially White people to jump on the social services safety net. Hastening the Day the EBT Card stops working.

    Obama probably IS a a Negro bigot who harbors a deep animus against people, but I think his Muslim upbringing makes him loathe the Jews. I think he is serious about withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan and would rather cut off his left nut than attack Iran. I also think he is aware that the Jews is where the real money is and he is very much involved in the OWS movement.

    Pretty much every argument to vote Republican has been shot down.

    Obamacare was inspired by Massachusetts’ Romneycare.

    John Thomas obliterated any hope that judges picked by a Republican administration would be any better at interpreting the law strictly by the Constitution than the Democrats did.

    The same Neocons who brought us to war with Iraq and wanto take us to war with Iraq are on the Romney team. It would be George Dubya Part DUH.

    Romney still wants to give visas to Indians and Chinese even though White Americans are hurting for jobs.

    I have no doubt that the Romney administration would bend over backwards to make concessions to the disgruntled Negro populace over the Obama loss to prove he is not a racist if Romney is elected.

    An Obama win means the Negros will only get more criminal and arrogant and push their weight around on everybody else. Methinks even more Whites will wake up. Moreover, this will piss off every non-Negro, especially the Mestizos who will realize that Obama has double-crossed them after he is elected.

    I think the country will fall into bankruptcy, violence and chaos. Obama will have to find some common enemy to unite the country and IMO that will be the Jews.

    Eventually the United States will break apart and be forced to take its boot off of the neck of Europe who will see the European Union break apart with every European right wing nationalist party evicting all the African and Muslim immigrants they have been forced to accept.

    Whether it is Romney or Obama, each in his own way is lethal to the United States. It is far better to our cause if when the USA’s inevitable crack up occurs, Obama is at the helm of the ship of state.

  120. Andrew's Gravatar Andrew
    July 19, 2012 - 2:13 am | Permalink

    An excellent article by Cooper Sterling, incisive analysis. My only complaints are that I have nothing to quibble with, and this writer may have read my mind and plagiarized my thoughts before I could write them down. It is sad, but a Romney presidency would have a much better chance of pushing through an amnesty, which he would almost certainly attempt, thus betraying his kinsmen and voters, while allowing him to feel saintly, helping the poor and downtrodden non-Whites, who need his benevolence so urgently. That f&$%*#@ A*&^%#@! Sorry, had an emotional lapse there.

    The only course for WNs is to vote for and contribute to the small parties that do support our interests, such as the A3P. Its a step in the right direction, helping to get the ball rolling. When the multicultural dystopia is in full swing some decades from now, we need a political party with a decent track record and a viable ideology that is prepared to come into its own.

  121. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 2:47 am | Permalink

    @Andrew:

    Andrew wrote:

    “The only course for WNs is to vote for and contribute to the small parties that do support our interests, such as the A3P. Its a step in the right direction, helping to get the ball rolling.”

    It’s unfortunate, however, that A3p claims to be a multiracial party that appears to be willing to support non-white interests also as you can see from the link below by scrolling down to the comments section where an A3p representative said:

    “We are a multiracial party for your information. Anyone can join our party. ANYONE! And we too are against uncontrolled immigration. We are pro America. America first!”

    “As a final point, we believe that government discriminates against White Americans so we created a party to fight this discrimination and to represent White interests and issues that concern White Americans, such as illegal immigration.”

    http://american3rdposition.com/?p=6317

  122. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 5:05 am | Permalink

    Please be aware that SPLC, Simon Wiesenthal Center and the ADL have led campaigns to get various White sites removed from the internet. They have been trying to get Stormfront removed for years. This item is telling:

    In 2006, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported a discussion on Stormfront in which white nationalists were encouraged to join the U.S. Military in order to learn the skills necessary for winning a race war.

    See, these people may provoke and then report discussions as a way of discrediting a site, and ultimately trying to get it removed permanently.

  123. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 19, 2012 - 5:51 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: What was the upshot of the SPLC action?

  124. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    July 19, 2012 - 7:44 am | Permalink

    Obama could not attack Iran while the US was heavily committed in Iraq. He’s going to do it.

  125. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 7:57 am | Permalink

    @Someday:

    Maybe he will end up doing it, but the question is whether he has fought against it. I think that if you read people like Glick, the Israeli media in general, and leading neocon bloggers….they hate Obama and believe he has been a disaster for Israeli strategy.

  126. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 7:59 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Well said Jason. People need to work harder at honing their understanding of how to spot these trolls. People that say things that KM has clearly asked not to be said are trolls. Period.

  127. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 8:10 am | Permalink

    @mark:

  128. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 8:11 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:

    The SPLC action failed to get Stormfront taken down. I believe it did provide some pretext for the military to step up it’s monitoring of “hate” groups inside the military.

  129. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 8:11 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    Legally they have no choice but to be a multiracial party on paper.

  130. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 8:12 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    Yep, it’s all down there in bright red. How goes England today? Too early for a pint?

  131. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    we’re not a bunch of alcoholics y’know…hic

  132. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    July 19, 2012 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    @Someday: Obama has been quoted as saying Syria will have to wait until after the election. The plan is obviously to change the regime in Syria befroe going after Iran.

    I don’t doubt that Romney will do the same as Obama in regard to Syria & Iran. Romney does have that Mormon junior space cadet stare. If you know what I mean. LOL.

  133. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 8:33 am | Permalink

    inspirational white song of the day (if you like rock)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5W2IpVMw0E

  134. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 8:42 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    damn..what a racket!

  135. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 19, 2012 - 8:53 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    You continue to display signs of sanity, clear thinking and strong connections to reality. Further more, it has been noted that you display tendencies to think for yourself and maintain real contact with the majority of people in this country. Clearly this marks you as a dangerous man.

    I can only salute you, again, for your uncanny ability to make enemies of all the right people. Well done!

  136. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Stop dodging the issue!!
    If you don’t like the idea of WN, what is you purpose here??

  137. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 19, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: On Tiberius, red or blue, the comments appended to this article might interest.
    http://c4ss.org/content/4326#idc-cover

  138. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 9:51 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    Mickey Meadows wrote:
    “Legally they have no choice but to be a multiracial party on paper.”

    What makes you think that?

  139. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    July 19, 2012 - 9:56 am | Permalink

    The Jews want Iran smashed, Iran knows that they need a nuclear weapons capability for self defence against the US, but Iran trying to defend itself gives the US a pretext to attack them. So they have to do the one thing that is sure to result in them being attacked by the US. Jews basically run US foreign policy so war with Iran is more or less certain. It will be a disaster if Romney wins and is the one who attacks Iran. That will let the white fools keep on believing that the military industrial complex and Big Oil are behind it. When Obama attacks Iran there will be no talk of Halliburton. It will let whites see who has been pulling the strings all along.

  140. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 9:59 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    @Trenchant:

    I don’t think I’m being overly “post hoc propter hoc”–minded in believing, as I do, that former Navy Lieutenant John Sharpe—the founder of IHS Press, one of whose imprints was the publisher of Neo-Conned and Neo-Conned Again—was an early victim of this crackdown on freedom of thought and speech (viz., highly circumscribed, completely private speech, literally unknown to any of Sharpe’s professional naval colleagues). Sharpe got the boot in March 2007, under the terms of a naval regulation whose utterly PC vocabulary proves that it was written only within the past decade. His legal appeal was dismissed wih scorn by a civilian judge who knew whence his salary stemmed.

    One need not have warm feelings for Sharpe’s Distributist sympathies (I surely don’t) to understand that he is someone who is very much a member of our team and has done exemplary service in exposing the Tribal menace and, what is more, in vigorously combatting it.

  141. Hooper's Gravatar Hooper
    July 19, 2012 - 10:19 am | Permalink

    @fender: Be careful what you wish for. A lot of people thought the Bolsheviks coming to power in 1917 would be just the ticket to shake up the decaying aristocracy and produce the type of reform that was actually needed. We all know what that led to. Sometimes a step backwards is just a step backwards.

  142. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 10:20 am | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    Henry, Jason Speaks Hebrew’s’ purpose here is to make sure nobody starts thinking any thoughts that might have a solid, effective impact on the racial war being waged against us. That’s a tactic Jews use elsewhere, specifically in talk radio these days.

  143. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 10:26 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    I am sorry if I got that wrong. In the UK the BNP has been sued dry for breakign race relations laws in not being available to non-whites. Now they state that they are open to membership by anyone. Is this not the same in the US?

  144. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    We don’t have race relation laws here and I know that several exclusively White organizations have run people for office in the past without any legal problems of that type.

    It seems to me that no organization or political party can represent both the interests of Whites and non-whites, especially when we are involved in a war of extermination.

  145. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 19, 2012 - 10:45 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: I saw that. Christians enamored of Israel and Judaism are fools. Though I’m no longer a believer, I wish more had the cojones to admit they have equal right, (at least), to claim to be the true heirs of the Abrahamic covenant, rabbinic Judaism being nothing more than 2,000 year old phariseeism, the philosophy diametrically opposed to what Christ stood for.

  146. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 19, 2012 - 10:53 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    The link provided states that :“No person in the Naval Service shall participate in any organization that espouses supremacist causes.”

    Does that mean we can bring charges against any zionists in the Navy?

  147. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    That’s an excellent reason to avoid joining any membership organization.

  148. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 19, 2012 - 10:58 am | Permalink

    @Felix:
    I prefer to think of these Christian as naive. If we could publicize this articles it might help a few. I found it interesting that although there is an announcement of zero tolerance for this position, I saw no mention of punishment. Bibles which include the New Testament are destroyed regularly in Israel.

  149. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 19, 2012 - 11:04 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: The rank and file might be naive. People like John Hagee, who calls himself a Christian Zionist, (a term I’m sure that would shock Jesus), or Cardinal George of Chicago are fools.

  150. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    July 19, 2012 - 11:05 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    *It’s unfortunate, however, that A3p claims to be a multiracial party that appears to be willing to support non-white interests also as you can see from the link below by scrolling down to the comments section where an A3p representative said:

    “We are a multiracial party for your information. Anyone can join our party. ANYONE! And we too are against uncontrolled immigration. We are pro America. America first!”

    “As a final point, we believe that government discriminates against White Americans so we created a party to fight this discrimination and to represent White interests and issues that concern White Americans, such as illegal immigration.”*

    Mark,

    I have no problem with A3P representing itself as a multiracial party that is open to “anyone.” Because it’s highly unlikely that “anyone” would support the pro-White goals of the A3P, anyway.

    The A3P representing itself as “multiracial” rather than a White Only Party is a great preemptive defense against Snivel Rights Activists’ bullying in the future. By allowing “anyone” in, A3P effectively blocks asshole associations like the $PLCretins from suing them in court and then basically ordering the agenda of their organization as what happened to the BNP.

    I seriously doubt that the complexion of the A3P is going to dramatically change by them saying what amounts to that they are a multiracial organization pursuing a pro-White agenda. The “people of color” that feel that their bread is buttered by allowing Whites to keep what they have earned is rare to none. They are in full “gibsmedat” mode.

  151. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 19, 2012 - 11:06 am | Permalink

    @Athanasius: I think that Canada is going to be the last bastion of white anglo resistance to the multicult. It is still 80% white, and most of their minorities are not the disproportionately youthful, high-fertility blacks and hispanics we have in the U.S. Their population is only some 33 million, so an influx of 3 million or so racially conscious whites could massively transform the political landscape and put the Jew in his place. Canada will never be pure white, but I do think that European-dominated Western civilization could continue there for several generations. That might just be enough time to do away with egalitarianism once and for all and secure a future for our people.

  152. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 19, 2012 - 11:23 am | Permalink

    @Felix:
    Worse than fools, I fear.

  153. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 11:27 am | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:

    The so-called “trinity” is primitive mans conceptualization of humanity. His way of satisfying one of the most primal imperitives “need to know”
    He could see the three primary aspects of Nature. Pleasure, pain, and in between…Man Woman, and child, So he incorperated this into his belief system and called it “Judeism” out of which evolved Christianity and Islam.
    The Natural Laws that all religions are loosely based on are valid….The religions themselves are not. Because of their tendancy to drift away from Natures eternal Laws. Thus you have Christians believing in Multi-culty on one hand and Zioism on the other

  154. Mother Trucker's Gravatar Mother Trucker
    July 19, 2012 - 11:41 am | Permalink

    . . .jews, n$ggers, and mexicans. . .

  155. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    July 19, 2012 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Participate politically. And vote.

    Nothing is accomplished by political passivity. And nothing is accomplished by not voting.

    If you don’t like the candidates on offer, write in a candidate.

  156. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 12:27 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: You try it first, Alice. I promise that I’ll visit you in hospital or in prison.

    At least we’ll get to meet face to face …

  157. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 19, 2012 - 12:33 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    OK. Well then without more information the most sensible assumption is that A3P took that decision as part of some process of strategic reckoning. You and I aren’t privy to that reckoning so it’s hard to make a judgement call. I suppose from your perspective it has to come down to a question of trust. Do you trust the people and mission of that party?

  158. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

    @Daybreaker: Sir, you are mistaken in reflexively equating the disinclination to vote with political passivity. When the media’s talking heads moan about low turnout rates, they are expressing the Establishment’s deep-seated fear of the loss of moral legitimacy, which is one of “democracy’s” phoniest albeit oft-repeated conceits.

    At various times in the American past, Jews, blacks, and various ethnic whites loudly complained about elected officials that “they don’t represent me.” Should a sizable number of white Christians and post-Christians ever arrive at the same veracious realization, the groundwork for a major social upheaval—not necessarily the bloody one that “Mossad mark” is trying to trick commenters here to sign on to—will have been laid.

  159. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: This former enlisted man owes John Sharpe an apology. He was a lieutenant commander, not a lieutenant.

  160. Rob's Gravatar Rob
    July 19, 2012 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    fender wrote:

    I hope Romney wins, and here’s why:

    1. It would cause a massive chimpout from blacks in the major cities that could not possibly be ignored by the mainstream media the way they are now. This would go a long way in dividing the racial lines in America, which is actually what needs to happen (i.e. Whites siding with Whites, blacks siding with blacks)

    2. The jews will get what they want, a war on Iran that will cost billions of dollars and thousands of American lives. The economy will fall apart faster and lead us closer to a collapse. Furthermore it will wake up more Americans to the fact that jews control our country, and not to its benefit.

    3. It would be a repudiation of America as a multicultural nation to have its first black president only serve one term and then get immediately replaced by a White man. Obama would be seen as a failure by not only Americans, but the entire world; in short, the black man failed.

    Unfortunately #3 is exactly the reason why Obama will win. The elites placed him in the White House as a symbol of Whitey’s fall from grace. There’s no way they would ever let him fail. The jews behind Obama will stop at nothing to make sure he gets re-elected.

    This.

  161. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 19, 2012 - 1:13 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Real change can never occur while the majority labors under the illusion that their “leaders” are “their” leaders or that the bureaucrats in Washington are “their” government and work for them. Once they realize that America is now an occupied country, (by whom is arguable), and it’s officials bought and paid for, the jig is, indeed, up.

  162. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    @Clytemnestra:

    Clytemnestra wrote:
    “The A3P representing itself as “multiracial” rather than a White Only Party is a great preemptive defense against Snivel Rights Activists”

    Why do we need a “preemptive defense” when representing our own interests? The National Alliance has always in the past had a ‘Whites only’ policy, and as far as I know still does, though I haven’t been involved with the NA in many years.

    The Boy Scouts of America has a ‘no queers’ policy which has passed muster with United States Supreme Court, so I don’t think there is any danger at all in having a ‘Whites only’ policy.

  163. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Why are Christian Nations Flooded with africans while most Islamic Nations are not ??…..
    You don’t see many Africans on the streets in Iran, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, etc…Why??
    Also, its not just Islam that is relatively homogeneous, China is another non-Christian non black Nation, as is Japan.
    Whats the connection/attraction between Black immigration and Christianity?
    Do black immigrants flood Chistian Nations and ONLY Christian Nations because there is something in the Holy Water????

  164. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:39 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    @peeair crayon
    “Should a sizable number of white Christians and post-Christians ever arrive at the same veracious realization, the groundwork for a major social upheaval—not necessarily the bloody one that “Mossad mark” is trying to trick commenters here to sign on to—will have been laid.”

    What makes you think it will be anything but bloody?

    Have you ever seen anything in history with the numbers of people involved that we have to deal with, and where the forcible displacement will involve the numbers that it will, that was not bloody?

    Stop embarrassing yourself.

  165. Watson Gullet's Gravatar Watson Gullet
    July 19, 2012 - 1:41 pm | Permalink

    No, Canada is not a bastion of hope for WN. Canadians are moonbats. I’ve recently had some discussions about immigration with Canadians, and they called me racist and xenophobe and every name in the book. See, their country is still mostly white so they have NO idea what it’s like to do ethnic battle with vicious anti-whites. Most Canadians are stupidly liberal and have their heads in the sand.

  166. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 1:48 pm | Permalink

    @mark: Even your mockery is predictably jejune and vulgar.

    When you next lunch with Heidi Beirich, tell her she should send TOO a less obvious agent provocateur than you.

    Do you need a phonetic spelling for those French words, too?

  167. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 19, 2012 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

    @Watson Gullet: I realize there is no hope for Canadian WN right now. I’m talking about in another generation. If things go south badly in the U.S., which I think is unavoidable, then don’t you think many whites will flee to Canada with a hardened view of race and racial politics?

  168. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Hey Pee-Air Crayon:

    What are going to do when several million more Mexicans head for the USA so they can get easy food stamps?

    How will you get rid of them non-violently?

    USDA partnering with Mexico to boost food stamp participation
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/19/usda-partnering-with-mexico-to-boost-food-stamp-participation/

  169. Fran Wilson's Gravatar Fran Wilson
    July 19, 2012 - 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Let me explain something that is quite elementary but seems to have escaped many of the people who post here. You keep saying that Obama is “against” Israel. Look, this is what they did. Bush was playing bad cop, and it caused blowback. So, the very same Jews who put Bush in power put Obama in the white house, and Obama plays good cop. He PRETENDS to be Muslim friendly and fair minded, but he is anything but. Go on youtube and watch him grovel for the AIPAC crowd. The Jews OWN Obama, and he WILL do whatever the hell they tell him to do. The big Jews can plainly see that the American people are fed up with wars in the ME. So, for now, threats toward Iran is their strategy. But push come to shove, if the big Jews want us to go and fight in Iran, then we will once again be sending white Christian redneck kids to go and die in the ME.

    As to the statement that Meztizos are not very political. Nothing could be less true. The browns in Los Angeles are HYPER militant and arrogant. They relish their new found political muscle and and they are in your face with it. They are a very dangerous contingent and have big imaginary historical grievances. In some ways, they are even worse than the blacks.

  170. omop's Gravatar omop
    July 19, 2012 - 2:16 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:

    Could that be due to the fact that Africa is prime land for the likes of American mostly fundamentalist missionaries?

  171. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

    @omop:

    You mean like the bleeding heart liberal that went to Alaska to “SAVE” the poor misunderstood, harmless, Grizzly bears which thanked him and his girlfriend by eating them??
    Yeah, could be.
    Or it could be that Christianity is a religion of sacrifice (suicide)

  172. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 2:47 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    PS, he filmed it…Google Grizzly man

  173. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 2:55 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Significant social change comes about ONLY through violence.Because you can reason with ignorance, but you have to beat the crap out of stupidity.

  174. Mother Trucker's Gravatar Mother Trucker
    July 19, 2012 - 2:57 pm | Permalink

    No, Canada is not a bastion of hope for WN. Canadians are moonbats. I’ve recently had some discussions about immigration with Canadians, and they called me racist and xenophobe and every name in the book. See, their country is still mostly white so they have NO idea what it’s like to do ethnic battle with vicious anti-whites. Most Canadians are stupidly liberal and have their heads in the sand.

    Who controls information in Canada?

  175. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 3:03 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    Yes, Napoleon knew that, so did George Washington, US Grant, Robert E. Lee, Alexander the Great, Harry Truman, the White Indian fighters on the Great Plains in the 1800s, and many others.

  176. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 19, 2012 - 3:09 pm | Permalink

    A3P – stands for American Third Position – They are communitarians! As I was saying months ago, make that years ago.. I’ll say it now and again and again.. Communitarians will not deliver a WHITE homeland.. they will imply and allude to it.. they will promise it.. insinuate that that is their goal but in the end you won’t have it.. What you are going to get is something along Astana, Kazakhstan.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNNm30Skecw&feature=related – a multi culti/racial freemason/jew s&*# hole.. the enlightened and chosen will run everybody’s lives in a technocratic style.. they will decide if you are going to live, reproduce, work, etc.. it’s written in STONE!! The Georgia Guidestones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rosIIteigNc and it makes no difference if Obama gets another 4 years or if Romney gets elected.. The election has already been decided when Ron Paul got knocked out of the race.. He seems like the one that was running stood for Constitutional Republic. The only thing to watch for now is what if any reaction to the Change will there be from the public.

  177. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    July 19, 2012 - 3:14 pm | Permalink

    People talking about ruinning off to Canada to set up a white country.. that is probably one of the most PATHETIC things I’ve seen.. What we need to do is TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!

  178. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 19, 2012 - 3:22 pm | Permalink

    @Mother Trucker: The Jews. I still think that as America sinks into third world status, it will become increasingly obvious that Jew moralizing is self-serving propaganda.

  179. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 19, 2012 - 3:24 pm | Permalink

    @Facio Libre: That is unrealistic.

  180. Fran Wilson's Gravatar Fran Wilson
    July 19, 2012 - 3:37 pm | Permalink

    The Jews control info in Canada. Big surprise. The Canadian populace is ready to slit its’ veins to “help” the poor downtrodden non-white masses.
    Facio, you are 100% right when you say that we need to take a stand and fight for our country. I keep seeing posts about a “white homeland” and we should go to the Paciific NW or to Canada or to Russia. To hell with that. I’m not going anywhere. It’s loony thinking. Millions of people are not going to relocate in any case. People have roots and jobs and homes. No, we need to stand up and fight, period. The idea that “one day we will have a white homeland” is silly thinking and it takes way from what we can do today, right now. All WN’s should be faxing and calling Senators and Congressman regarding immigration and abortion and affirmative action and the host of ills that the jews have cast upon us. I know it takes time and effort, but it’s worth the effort. At least you can feel as if you are doing something. And if nothing comes of our efforts, then no doubt things will eventually get very very ugly. I hope the ugliness can be avoided.

  181. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 19, 2012 - 4:00 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:

    You said

    The so-called “trinity” is primitive mans conceptualization of humanity.

    Answer

    You have this backwards.

    You said

    His way of satisfying one of the most primal imperitives “need to know”.

    Answer

    I think you are mixing up man and God

    You said

    He could see the three primary aspects of Nature. Pleasure, pain, and in between…Man Woman, and child, So he incorperated this into his belief system and called it “Judeism” out of which evolved Christianity and Islam.

    Judaism is Talmudism and has nothing to do with the old contract (OT). Judaism came out of Babylon not out of old Israel. The NT is the new contract and is a restoration yet advancement of the original way. Islam is a combining of Christian world view and Talmudic worldviews.

    You said

    The Natural Laws that all religions are loosely based on are valid….The religions themselves are not. Because of their tendancy to drift away from Natures eternal Laws.

    Answer

    Natural law can be seen in Genesis and in the NT, and is the Creation of God. True religion is the helping of the poor, widows and Orphans.

    You said

    Thus you have Christians believing in Multi-culty on one hand and Zioism on the other.

    Zionism is based on the controversy of Zion between Esau and Jacob. It is Esau’s claim to rule the planet- but this will be ended soon as the REAL Israelite-Judaites, the white/European man from Jacob take over everything these Esau “Jews” have tried to create for themselves.

    @fender:

    Why do I believe in God? Because the creator/savior is self evident and if truth be told, we ALL should be wiped off the face of the earth. This is what the law requires but faith is justified and grace (undeserved favor) is what sustains us until everyting foretold happens to be bring glory to God. He will use the white Christian peoples for this end time scenario as he deals with both the fake “Jews” and their apostate “:Christian” suppporters. Why does he put up with it? Because he LOVES US that is why and he shows his patience every day this planet lives. Soon enough however, his punishments will come down hence the reason for trying to be in his good graces by doing his will to the best of one’s ability.

    @Dario Darby

    Exellent summation.

  182. JustaWhiteMom's Gravatar JustaWhiteMom
    July 19, 2012 - 4:10 pm | Permalink

    @Fran Wilson:
    “Facio, you are 100% right when you say that we need to take a stand and fight for our country. I keep seeing posts about a “white homeland” and we should go to the Paciific NW or to Canada or to Russia. To hell with that. I’m not going anywhere. It’s loony thinking.”

    It almost sounds like you are coming to a conclusion about what whites should do based on principle. Principle doesn’t matter. All that matters is what will work.

    “Millions of people are not going to relocate in any case. People have roots and jobs and homes.”

    They do it all the time. Its called white flight. I have already decided that I will be encouraging my children to go to college in Canada. Masses will be moving there from Britain when the tire of the Muslims. French will move to Quebec for the same reason. Anglo whites will move to Canada to get away from blacks and browns.

    “No, we need to stand up and fight, period.”

    Again, it sounds like you are simply clinging to your view out of a sense of honor or principle. I appreciate that but we are in a fight for our very existence and we must stand and fight under circumstances that give up the best hope of success.

    “The idea that “one day we will have a white homeland” is silly thinking and it takes way from what we can do today, right now.”

    A homeland is all that matters. It is the only way we can ensure a future for our children in the long run.

    “All WN’s should be faxing and calling Senators and Congressman regarding immigration and abortion and affirmative action and the host of ills that the jews have cast upon us. I know it takes time and effort, but it’s worth the effort. At least you can feel as if you are doing something.”

    What’s the point of this? Putting off the inevitable? Do you hope to expel 100 million nonwhites from the country. Ingathering is much more practical than that.

    “And if nothing comes of our efforts, then no doubt things will eventually get very very ugly. I hope the ugliness can be avoided.”

    Me too.

  183. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    July 19, 2012 - 4:37 pm | Permalink
  184. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 19, 2012 - 4:43 pm | Permalink

    @Fran Wilson: Oh, the latino population, mostly Mexican, in Los Angeles and much of California is militant alright. Anyone that thinks otherwise is butt dumb. These people have marched in the hundreds of thousands with banners telling European-Americans where they can go, have called them vile names, and have made it clear they will DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. And, they have. The police in Los Angeles(under Chief Beck,, can’t touch them, the Sheriffs office under Sheriff Baca, won’t touch them, and in fact, they are now working in many government offices, determining who will get services etc. Any European-American, or even black person, that can’t understand this, is naive and will be shocked at what the near future holds for them. Most resources in California are now going to legal or illegal hispanics and anyone that lives here knows it.

  185. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 19, 2012 - 4:54 pm | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:

    “Why does he put up with it? Because he LOVES US that is why and he shows his patience every day this planet lives.”

    So god shows his love for us by having the jews destroy everything we’ve built, while they are never punished, but in fact rewarded, with global riches and power? That’s not a god I care to worship.

  186. J.J. WHALEN's Gravatar J.J. WHALEN
    July 19, 2012 - 5:00 pm | Permalink

    peters is right . don’t depend on russia as a sanctuary.any way when we say the russians are white aren’t we using that term loosely. take a close look at some of these monkeys over in russia

  187. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 19, 2012 - 5:00 pm | Permalink

    @JustaWhiteMom:

    Canada is a bad idea. It’s completely jew-run and the savages from the dark corners of the earth are flocking there as well. White Canadians are also braindead liberal marxists who scream “racism” at anything and everything.

    If Golden Dawn ever manages to reclaim Greece from the international jew and their White lackeys, it might be a good place to relocate to. Belarus, Russia, and the Baltic nations are also possibilities; they openly celebrate their SS heroes there.

  188. Fran Wilson's Gravatar Fran Wilson
    July 19, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    California just passed The California Trust Act, which will make the ENTIRE state a sanctuary state. They are even saying that they will not cooperate with federal laws and the Secure Communities Program. THAT is the extent of what the Jews have done, to empower mexicans and disempower whites. They took the greatest state in the entire country, the state with the best weather and the most beautiful national parks, etc.etc., and turned it into a mexican hellhole just like mexico itself. It makes me so godamned angry i don’t know what to do.
    But I do know that I have NO intention of going to the frozen wasteland of canada to live with a bunch of moonbats that are JUST LIKE the moonbats I deal with here in California. Sure, if you are so inclined, by all means move to a white area if you can. My point is that it is NOT so easy for people to up and move, perhaps thousands of miles from the place they call home. And the other thing that bothers me about this kind of talk is that it’s a surrender of sorts. Trust me, the Anders Breiviks and Jared Laughners are going to be crawling out of the woodwork in the next few years. You’re going to see plenty of white terrorists, because of white disenfranchisement. I don’t disagree with anything that Anders Breivik had to say. I wouldn’t do what he did, but I totally understand the thought process. And yes, it’s scary to realize that I agree with a dude that killed 70 innocent people. It’s my sincere hope that the big Jews will back off from their stupid white genocide program before things really get out of hand. They are actually PROVOKING the very sort of antisemitism that they claim they want to stop. it’s incredibly STUPID on their part. I would never in a million years have had the slightest unkind thought about Jews had they not engaged in their massive attacks on me and my kind. I admired the Jews greatly. I feel BETRAYED by the Jews. We gave them a beautiful place to live and prosper and they shat on us. I’d like to shove multiculturalism right up Israel’s ass.

  189. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 5:25 pm | Permalink

    @Fran Wilson:
    Good post, Fran.

  190. Peters's Gravatar Peters
    July 19, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    It is amusing how fender combines countries whose only common aspect is being part of the former Soviet Union. I wrote above at length why the idea of relocating to Russia is a dumb idea. Belarus shares some of the same reasons, plus being part of the former Jewish homeland (Pale of Settlement) and still having a strong jewish influence, it would be the last place to celebrate SS. The only countries where there is any public (mind you, public, not establishment) support of SS are Latvia and Estonia. Importantly to the present issue, the support of SS has nothing to do with supporting Nazis or the white cause. It is simply due to the fact that the Nazis interrupted the quite bloody Bolshevik occupation that had began one year earlier. So, the Nazis were viewed as liberators. This should not be taken as love of the Nazi occupation, the 800 year old German occupation was and is still remembered. Non-Germans could not join the regular German Army (Wehrmacht), so special SS units (Waffen SS) were formed where willing and sometimes unwilling foreigners were drafted. 

    The present view of many in Latvia and Estonia is that there are few remaining, old people, former members of the SS, who have already been punished by the Soviets, so there is no need for double dipping by the western Nazi hunters. The former Waffen SS soldiers are not necessarily loved by the public, rather it is a sort of protest against Zuroff’s Wiesenthal Center. And unlike the brainwashed West, for people in Eastern Europe WW2 and the flanking start and continuation of Bolshevik occupation was something very bloody and personal. The present day idea that only, or even predominantly, the Jews suffered appears offensive.

    Now that the history class is over, I am totally confused how packing up and moving to any of the Baltic republics would help us. The three countries are small, weak, without any natural defense, with few natural resources. Their only positive side is at this point the pedominantly white population. But the people are just as easily brainwashed, the media are in the same hands as in the West. Due to wariness of Russia, they are all willing members of the U.S. led coalition.

    So as I said in an earlier post – get it out of your head. You are doing a disservice to everyone here and wasting your own time dreaming about Russia and other Eastern European countries as your solution.

  191. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 19, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: They do interest me; thanks. The article is better, though, certainly insofar as the case it presents gives more than lip service to the normal human desire to see genuine argumentation, not merely an endless string of commenter’s assertions.

    I got the very distinct impression that a good many of the commenters were Evangelicals or Evangelicals manqué—and yes, I know how unlikely that is on a libertarian site. But they sure argued like Evangelicals. When it comes to the Bible, the greatest strength of American Evangelicals and Fundamentalists is their deep belief that establishing the correct text and reading it with a correct understanding are all that matters; that is, because for them the Bible is the sole source of understanding God’s message and will. On the other hand, when it comes to Christianity, the greatest weakness of American Evangelicals and Fundamentalists is their deep belief that establishing the correct text and reading it with a correct understanding are all that matters—and for precisely the same reason.

    As I said on an earlier thread, the most that can be said of the mainstream Catholic position, at least pre the Vatican II subversion (it was for a shorter period also the mainstream mainline Protestant position, too), is that the Gospel account may be legitimately taken to mean that there may indeed be some things that are Caesar’s. What, if anything, those things are is something about which reasonable men can and do differ—usually very loudly.

    The famous passage from Romans 13 is far dicier, as the Evangelicals manqué on the comment thread made painfully evident for roughly the millionth time. There is an interpretative note on this passage in the Jerusalem Bible that is drawn straight from Augustine (in the City of God): “Paul here enunciates the principle that all authority, supposing it lawful and for the common good, derives from God” [emphasis mine]. If you are in the driver’s seat of a libertarian eighteen-wheeler, this is of course the loophole you are looking for!

    There is much, much more to be said on this topic, of course, but I have exhausted my energy quotient for today.

  192. Hooper's Gravatar Hooper
    July 19, 2012 - 6:06 pm | Permalink

    The United States is heading for something akin to a cross between the Balkans and South Africa, replete with wide swaths of typical third-world chaos, poverty and ugliness with many whites herded into secluded, well-guarded communities (an acceleration of what started in the ’60s) There will be a total breakdown of the public politic and a drastic reduction in government efficiency due to the inability of clannish special interests groups to work together plus the corruption and nepotism inherent in extensive non-white participation in public administration.

    Balkanization can go one of two ways: a strong central authority (ala Joseph Tito) carefully holds everything together and forces rival groups to play at cooperation, or a decentralization occurs whereby local factions, ethnic realities, and regional oligarchs play an increasingly important role in people’s day-to-day existence. The political elite naturally seems to be choosing the first option — but with a decidedly anti-white slant. It’s also a doomed approach. The recently begun but now terminal decline in the standard of living of most White Americans will at some point become politically fatal. The failure of the financial smoke and mirrors show, which has kept the moribund US economy afloat for the last few years, is inevitable. This will likely be followed by a messy and somewhat contradictory decentralization — the elites won’t surrender easily and will throw every totalitarian tactic in the book at the American public– but the reality on the ground will be one increasingly dominated by informal networks, ethnic tension, and unspoken understandings, corruption and generally less uniformity. This all may simmer under the surface of a brittle and artificial order imposed from above.

    Unlike most displacements in history, the decline of White America was not immediately accompanied by a decline in living standards among the displaced. Most Whites in America have lived well since WW II — an anomaly which has allowed them to be completely removed from positions of influence with minimal resistance. America’s post-war economic explosion masked a more sinister change of tide which is only now bringing ashore its disastrous consequences.

  193. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 19, 2012 - 6:11 pm | Permalink

    @jasonspeaks. I think that you are spot-on with your analysis of the situation vis a vis the anti-white racist culture. It is as if virtually all young people, including whites, assume, and strongly feel, that all whites are evil and inferior. Of course, they would especially apply this to us at this site. I say that our stance is a matter of self-defense and survival and that whites are very capable people with high IQs (see IQ and the Wealth of Nations), physical strength and toughness, warrior history, resourcefulness, innovative character, and other traits that make them outstanding.
    As for the Andalusian or other Mediterranean type of Mexicans who are Caucasian and don’t know it, they do not have enough understanding of history and physical anthropology to even know who they are. The sum total of their knowledge of physical anthropology is skin color as a racial and ethnic marker (and most whites are to a great extent this way now too, unfortunately). They have also been fooled by a sort of Mexican Nationalist mythos. The so-called anti-racists and the cultural marxists (anti-white racists) have erradicated the traditional study of human variation. They have replaced it with genetics instead of using them together. Phenotypic traits are extremely important. It is interesting that the taxonomic approach still prevails in the cataloging of animal species and dog breeds (where it is also frankly admitted that breed or species affects temperament and personality, intelligence and physical abilities). The study of history, anthropology, archaeology, linguistics (for example, the Proto-Indo-Europeans were certainly of Nordic type, the evidence is overwhelming) and others have completely eliminated the physical anthropology component. For example, note the claim in newer documentaries, books, and articles that there was no Celtic people, Celtic physical type, and that there were not even Celtic invasions (Halstatt & La Tené cultural expansion were without movement of people, abslolutely absurd), pure marxist archaeology. And the turkic speaking Khazars were an “Indigenous North Caucassian [as in mountains] people.” This even though Turkic languages are known to have expanded from Eastern Siberia. That is another ridiculous claim of marxists [in this case Soviet-Marxist archaeologists]. It used to be that virtually all educated people had a basic knowledge of (the taxonomic type) human variation (the races of man).
    This is due to the fact that certain types are proven to have higher IQs and other advanced traits the knowledge of which is deemed dangerous. For example, Cro-Magnoid type descendents of Cro-Magnon man have a very large cranial capacity AND great physical strength. Nordics have a very high IQ.
    Speaking of the races of man, I have a different opinion on the nature of human variation. I believe that the major “races” are really different species of humans but species capable of mating and producing viable offspring. There are other examples of this in nature. The Caucassian species and the Mongoloid species are more closely related to each other (as evidenced by, among other things, a similar cellular level chemistry) than they are to the Congoid (Negroid) Species. Recent research has shown that Caucasoids and Mongoloids have been seperated genetically (until fairly recently by evolutionary standards) for close to 200,000 years. There has been an immense amount of recent research that contradicts the “Out of Africa theory” concerning a supposed relatively recent erruption of humans from Africa. There is even evidence of 2 more types of prehistoric humans found in Asia as well as early hominid human ancestors in Asia.

    As I see it, the Caucasoid species has races within it. Mediteranean, Nordic, etc. The same would apply to the other human species.

    As for the hybrids choosing the non-whites over whites, it happens a lot, but not always. In addition, many Mediterraneans are convinced that they are not “white,” Eva Longoria was such an example until she got enlightened.

    One really good example of mixed race people favoring non-whites is Quanah Parker the half Comanche half white Indian raider with pale blue eyes, black hair, and dark skin. He was a severe persecutor and hater of whites even though his own white family suffered unspeakable atrocities at the hands of the Comanches.
    That isn’t always the case.
    I know of a half American Indian half White who is a white supremacist (not me, someone of whom I know but I have not met him).

  194. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 19, 2012 - 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Correction to my last posting. Recent research has shown that Caucassoids and Mongoloids were seperated from Congoids (Negroids) for almost 200,000 years until relatively recently.

  195. Connor McNessa's Gravatar Connor McNessa
    July 19, 2012 - 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Mexicans have a very strange sort of national mythos and attitude about it. A lot of it is based on real history. There is a mythos based on fact about the Mestizos. They tend to think that every one of them is a Mestizo. They idolize the Mestizaje, as they call it. But many of them are mostly of one race, too.

    The really strange and perhaps pathological part of the mythos is the story of the creation of the Mestizos through rape. Instead of the aknwoledgement that this happened but that it is an unfortunate atrocity, there is an admiration of the rapist!

    Yes, you read that correctly. In Mexican Spanish, if you call someone a Chingón, a rapist or a f***ker, that is a compliment! That means that he is strong and can take what, and who, he wants! I think that this should be an alarming indicator of a problem in the culture.

  196. bannister's Gravatar bannister
    July 19, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows: The Jews put Obama in office.

  197. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 19, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:

    I’m going to take a wild guess and say you were raised on christianity and at least one of your parents is a religious fanatic…Thats OK, its hard to rise above your raising. Good Luck.

  198. fender's Gravatar fender
    July 19, 2012 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    @Peters:

    Your points are well-taken but I’m more interested in what nations are most likely to spawn nationalist governments and/or maintain their ethnic makeup in the future.

    Of course right now it’s better for Whites to live in Germany or Norway than in Estonia or Russia, but what about 50 years from now? The Eastern European nations may be rife with crime and alcoholism but what is Germany going to be like when it’s entire population is Turkic-African?

  199. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 8:49 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    I must admit I was hurt that the SPLC wouldn’t get a better actor than ‘Mark’. It means they really do have a low opinion of us.

  200. Peters's Gravatar Peters
    July 19, 2012 - 9:11 pm | Permalink

    In my opinion neither Russia nor the Baltics will spawn a good, honest, concerned government. Genepool is part of the problem. The people of Estonia and Latvia descend from slave-peasants. The lands were ruled since the 1100s by Germanic Orders, whose descendants remained landowners even after Peter the Great conquered Livonia. The natives were not freed until the abolishment of serfdom in the second half of 19th century. My point is that, unlike for example the Swiss, these people have no culture of independence. In terms of evolution, the genes coding for independence, rebeldom etc were less likely to survive. Russia may be in a slightly better situation, but the demographics will kill it.

  201. Faustus's Gravatar Faustus
    July 19, 2012 - 9:40 pm | Permalink

    @Andrea Ostrov Letania:

    Very well said.

  202. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 19, 2012 - 9:56 pm | Permalink

    @Hooper: Great comment.

  203. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 19, 2012 - 9:58 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Thanks for your comments. The SPLC page linked in the article was good reading, too.

  204. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 19, 2012 - 10:33 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    God Allows the “jews” to do their crap for a number of reasons. Among them are
    1. We are all given freedom of choice- this includes the so called Jews.
    2. To see who will believe and love the lie or the truth.
    3.Because Esau is given dominion right now as part of the restitution toward the controversy of Zion where Jacob obtained the fruitfullness and dominion mandate from him through price gouging and the his mother enforced fraud. Whites have ruled the world since the time of Adam to Noah to Abraham to the time of Christ until now. Only at the end of the age(s) and for a short time, does Esau “Jews” get to rule and then they get utterly wiped out- destroyed. This also shows WHY God allowed the mandates to be taken by Jacob from Esau. Imagine if he had allowed Esau “Jews” to rule continually.
    3. Long Suffering. He desires that none are lost and all come to repentance. There will be no excuse afforded those who go along with this “Jewish” anti Christ tyranny.

    Fender, their time is coming to a end and soon. Then whites-Christians will rule for the entirety of the next earth age. until the very end, when they allowed “out” once last time to see if the world has learned anything.

    If you choose not to worship or believe- so be it- its on your head not mine.

  205. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 19, 2012 - 10:36 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:

    You said:

    I’m going to take a wild guess and say you were raised on christianity and at least one of your parents is a religious fanatic…Thats OK, its hard to rise above your raising. Good Luck.

    Answer

    No, I was not “raised on Christianity” anymore than anyone else is this secular “Jew” society- I am a product of my creator/savior and this is due to a love of the truth. Neither of my parents were active “Christians”- my Dad and Mom both agnostic.

  206. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 19, 2012 - 10:47 pm | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:
    So it’s even worse : you are a religious fanatic all from yourself.

  207. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 10:55 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    @ Rabbi Speaks:

    Last evening I asked you if you would please call the Pentagon and tell them to stop all of these violent homo-N*zi Rambo-like fantasies that you speak of so often and tell them to have the US military stand down and start a series of discussions and negotiations with al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

    I also asked you if you would provide us with their response to your request.
    What was the Pentagon’s response?

    I would also like to ask you to contact the Syrian rebels and ask them if they, too, would stop these violent homo-N*zi Rambo-like bloodthirsty fantasies they have and sit down with the Assad government and exchange a series of book reports and essays about history, philosophy, etc. Tell them that violence is not the answer.

  208. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 11:03 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    @ Pee-Air Crayon:

    Yes, please continue with this subject. It’s all very relevant to the predicament that Whites find themselves in today and offers sound advice about how we can extricate ourselves from it successfully.

  209. Ritchard's Gravatar Ritchard
    July 19, 2012 - 11:18 pm | Permalink

    No one deserves another four years of the illegal alien more than the media malleable American public. It is mind bogging how much it takes to wake them up.
    “A few make things happen.
    Some watch what is happening
    Most don’t know what’s happening”
    I can’t recall who said that.
    Ron Paul is the only worth while vote.

  210. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 19, 2012 - 11:34 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    That’s not any better, Mark, you guys at SPLC need to workshop your approach more.

  211. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    July 19, 2012 - 11:36 pm | Permalink

    @Bobby:
    I saw some images online of protesters in NYC [30% White, as of 2010] with the ‘Do I look Illegal’ ‘AmNasty’ etc signs.

  212. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    July 19, 2012 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    I dont know EthnoBiology etc [A Good Start is 'Dark Side of Man']
    but US, Canada, Australia are immigrant nations and the EuroWhites who moved/were born there did not ‘jell’ the way China and Japan ‘jelled’. [with the help of the X word, Xenophobic].

  213. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    July 19, 2012 - 11:45 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    Also the countries you mention are shit countries, so why would africans go there when the welfare states welcome them?

  214. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    July 19, 2012 - 11:51 pm | Permalink

    @Fran Wilson:
    Long post, from TakiMag:
    HE UNCOVERED THE “MOSQUETERIA” BEING RUN OUT OF A TORONTO PUBLIC SCHOOL WITH BOARD APPROVAL, WHERE—AS I EXPLAINED IN MY FIRST PIECE FOR TAKI’S—MUSLIM STUDENTS WERE CONDUCTING COMPULSORY FRIDAY PRAYERS IN THE CAFETERIA.
    AT THESE PRAYER SERVICES, BOYS SAT AT THE FRONT, GIRLS SAT BEHIND THEM, AND MENSTRUATING GIRLS WERE CONFINED TO THE VERY BACK.
    FOLLOWING UP ON A TIP FROM A READER AND PARENT WHO’D TRIED FOR TWO YEARS TO INTEREST BIG MEDIA IN THIS ILLEGAL USE OF TAXPAYER PROPERTY, MY HUSBAND EASILY CONFIRMED THE FACTS AND POSTED THE STORY.
    HIS “MOSQUETERIA” POST WENT NATIONAL, THEN INTERNATIONAL
    THE TORONTO DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD GIVES MY HUSBAND PLENTY OF BLOGGING MATERIAL. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO DON A DISGUISE AND INFILTRATE THEIR ENORMOUS HEADQUARTERS TO UNCOVER THEIR FOOLISHNESS, EITHER. HE JUST POKES AROUND THEIR WEBSITE.
    DURING A ROUTINE VISIT TO THEIR SITE, HE HAPPENED UPON THE TDSB’S 2012 “HISPANIC/LATIN PRIMARY & JUNIOR CALENDAR.”
    THE VERY EXISTENCE OF SUCH A THING IS DEPRESSING ENOUGH. HERE I WAS FEELING SUPERIOR TO OUR AMERICAN NEIGHBO(U)RS, SINCE ONE OF OUR DISTINCT ADVANTAGES OVER THE US HAS BEEN OUR LACK OF UNINVITED, ILLITERATE, CRIMINAL-CLASS MEXICANS.
    This flaky curriculum is ostensibly designed to appeal to the city’s “at-risk youth,” none of whom ever seem to be Jewish or Japanese, but all of whom—at least if our newspaper’s depressingly frequent murder reports are to be believed—are “aspiring rap artists.” (Notice that they’re never “aspiring brain surgeons.”)
    Local liberals decry Toronto’s “gun culture,” but dozens of dead “aspiring rap artists” a year? Bug or feature?
    Another slide shows the following text, again written in a child’s hand:
    “I think Mr. James Watsons [sic] shouldn’t have won the Nobel Prize because this man was a racist.…This man said that black people don’t have the intelligences [sic] that white people do but at the end of the day who is are [sic] President? And what colour is he?
    Again, Barack Obama isn’t “are” president here in Canada, but I guess in the TDSB’s eyes, he are—I mean, is—the universal, Nobel Prize-winning President of Black People International Incorporated, so whatever.
    Now: James Watson—the co-parent of DNA and “perhaps the most distinguished living American scientist”—“has” more “intelligences” than every teacher working at the Toronto District School Board (possibly combined).

  215. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 19, 2012 - 11:54 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    So I’ll take it that you’ve finally given up on the anti-violence stuff since everybody in the world seems to be using it and advocating it except for you, Pee-Air Crayon, and Miss Richard.

    A sweet victory!

  216. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 20, 2012 - 12:16 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Coming from the author and “brilliant mind” that advocates correcting every single posters spelling and typo errors as a way to attract more people to the cause, I will take your slander as vindiciation of my still standing, solid and truthful positions.

  217. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 20, 2012 - 12:29 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    I am completely and totally nonviolent as is everyone here.

  218. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 12:47 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    @Jason Speaks Hebrew:
    Then you’ve already lost the war. What are you wasting your time for?

  219. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 20, 2012 - 1:16 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    Is that part of the SLPC demoralization campaign? This is primarily a moral struggle. By that, I mean we must convince enough Whites that they have a moral right to exist and to defend their societies. We must convince them that it is healthy to protect and defend their children’s future.

    Because we live in such a dynamic social situation, anything beyond that is useless speculation at best. And at worst it does realharm to this site and to pro-Whites in general. Our goal must be the psychological and moral rehabilitation of our people.

  220. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 20, 2012 - 1:25 am | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:
    …every single posters… > …every single poster’s
    vindiciation > vindication

    With compliments from the IPCCSEWNW* .

    *) International Pharisaic Conspiracy to Correct Spelling Errors on White Nationalist Websites (adres headquarters secret).

  221. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 2:49 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Yes, it’s a moral campaign, so is the US effort in the Middle East including when the US drones kill a bunch of kids and other non-combatants. It was a moral campaign by the US in Vietnam, Korea, and during the cold war.

    Napoleon was fighting a moral war, so was George Washington, so was US Grant, and Robert E. Lee, and Alexander the Great, Harry Truman, the White Indian fighters on the Great Plains in the 1800s, and so many others.

    But it doesn’t matter how moral you think you are or what you believe if you aren’t willing to act on those beliefs. Some of us are trying to get people to start thinking NOW about the future and to start planning in tangible ways.

  222. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 20, 2012 - 4:08 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    I cannot imagine a scenario in which oceans of White people become aware of the truth and feel the need to secure their own future, but are somehow doomed because they didn’t do a lot of “pre-planning” years earlier. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not as if Whites will become awake, but everything will be lost because they hadn’t done enough “prepping”.

    Every minute spent on this stuff is time taken away from the crucial need to win the moral struggle (that is at best, at worst it sets us back). If we don’t win the moral and psychological struggle, no plans of any kind will matter. If Whites do win the moral struggle, what needs to be done will be figured out in that environment. When on earth has an ocean of White people wanted to accomplish something, but been unable to do it? The only goal that matters is getting them to want it and feel that it is right.

  223. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 20, 2012 - 4:15 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I’ve recently had social experiences that once again make me wonder whether the work of this site and all the others is having more impact than people understand. It’s frustrating and for a lot of people there is precious little encouragement. But I think people need to keep the faith and keep pushing. In so many accounts of a battle won the testimony of the victors years later is that they had all but given up when suddenly the enemy began to crumble. I’m not saying that is on the cards, but in terms of whites realizing the injustice and also just that there really isn’t a future for whites the way things are going….well like I said I’ve seen a couple of things lately that make me wonder.

  224. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 20, 2012 - 4:19 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    LOL Franklin. Keep up the good work old boy!

  225. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 20, 2012 - 4:22 am | Permalink

    @bannister:

    bannister…that’s true….but they have taken over your country and subverted yoru political system, so what does it say that they put Obama into power? The issue is whether he has been a good boy in power. Israel, the neocons, the arch zionists…all say not.

  226. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 20, 2012 - 4:49 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    You know that silly Malcom Gladwell guy popularized the concept of a tipping point, and I think there is something to it. There are a few people who drive all social change, and they push and push forever, and one day, when everything seems lost, suddenly all of society joins you.

    I have seen a lot of concepts that were underground slowly become mainstream over the years. Here’s hoping we are on the cutting edge!

  227. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 20, 2012 - 6:11 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    but of course… :O)

  228. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 20, 2012 - 7:10 am | Permalink

    Can anyone shed light on this article about Goldman-Sachs protecting bad guys in Russia?

    http://freebeacon.com/bank-of-putin/

  229. July 20, 2012 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    You are correct in that it may take a revolution to save America. It did before in 1776.

    I recommend you read a book out about a small town in America that stands up to federal corruption & politics & ends up starting the 2nd American Revolution. It’s powerful cause it’s about each of us. http://www.booksbyoliver.com

    There are few people excited about Obama or Romney which tells us that neither is the true candidate for the People. It’s only a choice of a candidate the political parties are forcing upon us. Great article cause it brings to light the real situation facing American voters.

  230. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 20, 2012 - 9:07 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I’m afraid so. My guess is that he volunteered for the Get Ron Paul squad but had trouble spelling his name.

    Speaking of names, have you noticed how the only putative adults who don’t outgrow the preadolescent predilection for attacking playmates by “creative” mockery of their names seem to be members of the Tribe? What’s more, all these superpatriot Jews just love to talk and talk and talk about war, of course, but they never seem to show up for basic training.

    I wonder how many wars mark has actually fought in. I’ve got a feeling my own meager count—one—is still one war more than his count.

  231. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 20, 2012 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    @Hooper:

    What Trenchant said goes for me, too.

  232. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    July 20, 2012 - 9:54 am | Permalink

    @TyronRobertParsons:

    Some interesting replies.

    BTW, though you didn’t ask and for the record, the most precise way I could answer any questions about my belief is that I do not not believe in God. One cannot prove a negative, and what lies beyond the tangible world I admit that I do not know.

  233. TyronRobertParsons's Gravatar TyronRobertParsons
    July 20, 2012 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    @Felix:

    Thanks for the compliment.

    As to proving a negative- well, everyone has a “theory” or believes some scenario as to how the world was created and what brought us all to this point. Through years of study- especially creationist and evolution’s scientific claims, I have come to the inescapable conclusion that the biblical claims are true because nothing even comes close to its accuracy given the evidence.

    Either people believe that we came into being by way of a primordial soup of rocks and water and life on this planet happened by chance (which is beyond the realm the laws of probability) or that it was done by design and an intelligent creator. I suppose there are dingbats out there with other claims but I will not entertain those now.

    Thank you for your honest reply about not knowing. Both evolution and creation are based upon faith. Not one of us were there physically at the beginning of creation(s) so we must take the available evidence and construct a belief system and/or theory. My belief system is based upon scriptures due to the reasons laid forth above.

    I posted this on another thread and thought it might do some good here:

    *What whites need is nothing less than a taking back of control of America first. Without returning to actual Christian Common/Constitutional law which trumps any and all legal fictions (UCC codes, statutes and Corporation status’ etc) whites will never be in a position of power in which to stop the flooding of our nation with illegal aliens nor will we be able to deal with the Jewish dual citizen traitors in Gov, Media, Finance.

    This can only happen by way a return to re-inhabit the old republic(s) that were left vacant both in 1789 (Articles of Confederation was uninhabited so we the people could inhabit the united States Republic) and the united States Republic that was uninhabited in 1860 with the advent of the Corporation UNITED STATES which was unlawfully created without the knowledge or consent of we the people. This corporation is run by the “Jews” whose direct owner is the City of London Corp (Crown-Jewish Bankers).

    Two “groups” have claimed to do just that. One is loosely called the Nation States (Re-inhabited the Articles of Confederation), the other is called RuSA. They claim to have re-inhabited the Republic for the united States of America.

    Nation States have a quorum of State Republics who have already filed papers in the Hague so nations around the globe can recognize them. RuSA claims to have re-inhabited all 50 state Republics- a candidate for Senate in Iowa recently dropped from the race in the Corporation US (present legal fiction system) and joined RuSA.

    It is reported that there are trillions of dollars the US Military is going to release to the new Republic(s). Reportedly, RuSA is not the favorite of the good guys in the US military but rather the Nation States is.

    Personally, I was “affiliated” with both “movements” because I was part of the Maine Republic.

    Here is the point. The Corporation UNITED STATES is going down and there is no stopping it. The Military sees the writing on the wall and wants to protect we the people from the mostly “Jewish” cabal that controls it. The US Military is the last bastion of White control in America’s Governmental systems.
    We cannot take back control of the Corporation UNITED STATES because it is dying and even if we did we would still be under the control of our enemy. Without a return to our actual lawful government(s)- there will be no stopping the genocidal aims of the “Jews” who control the US and by proxy the world as they seek to wipe the white man off the map so they might rule the entire planet.

    Step one- take back America. Step two- take control of the world government being erected in the ME out of so called “Israel” and kick out the Esau “Jews”. We MUST deal with these traitors and pathological liars ONCE AND FOR ALL. Step 3- put the other world players (Asia/Muslims etc) in check showing them there is no point in ever opposing our rule in the ME or our homelands around the world. The land of “Israel” is the white man’s land because we are true Israel-Judah! As to the rest of the world they can have complete self determination and rule in their homelands. We will not mess with them as long as they do not mess with us. As long as the Esau “Jews” are out of the way- the chances of having a peaceful coexistence on this planet are very good.
    Once all of this is accomplished, we the white/European peoples of the world can finally rest in true peace and security again.

  234. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 20, 2012 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: OT: Have you read Muggeridge’s Winter in Moscow? Another inconvenient work that finished in the oubliette.

  235. Hooper's Gravatar Hooper
    July 20, 2012 - 1:13 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Winter in Moscow is a must read — an absolutely damning portrayal of what happened when a certain type of people took the reigns in Russia.

  236. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 1:14 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    @ Pee-Air Crayon:
    What was your role in that war, Pee-Air?

    You know, of course, that spineless White men like yourself are of no value to the White resistance movement.

    Spineless White men like to write to try to impress others with what they think they know about history, try to create the impression that they are intelligent. They’re hobbyists. This is all an ego trip for them. They have no intention of participating in the struggle in any meaningful way.

    Some are trying to take White men from the cowardly, pussified state they are now in and prepare them for the most likely future scenario—kind of like the military does in boot camp. It’s no secret among White females nowadays that White men are weak, withdrawn and pussified in the extreme, right ladies?
    Carolyn Yeager knows it and so do other White women:
    http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/06/18/the-heretics-hour-are-white-males-hooked-on-weakness/

    Since you were in the military you know what I’m talking about: training is geared toward combat, not sitting down with the enemy and providing him with book reports and essays about a history he couldn’t less about.

    Imagine recruits going through boot camp and advance infantry training and never being taught how to zero a rifle or patrol in their area of operation (AO). Their instructors would kind of negligent, don’t you think?

    Discussing hypothetical scenarios, fictional writing is both legitimate and legal.

  237. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 1:33 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Just because you can’t imagine such a scenario doesn’t mean others can’t.

    Take a look at Europe right now. Swarms of mud people, the indigenous European population by a majority do not want them there and want to segregate themselves from them. But they can’t. There’s nothing they can do. Any of the political parties that would effectively represent the interests of the indigenous European population have been outlawed. They have to sit back and accept it or fight back the way Breivik did.

    Whites will figure the moral part out at the very moment they’re getting their heads smashed. The moral part will come to them in a matter of minutes. Trying to explain it to them by reasoning with them or by presenting them with essay after essay is and will continue to be an upward and mostly losing battle.

    Only a tiny portion of Whites are capable of understanding what’s at stake, even fewer than that care about it. That’s why force, not rigged elections, will be the deciding factor.

  238. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    12 dead during midnight showing of new Batman movie
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-theater-shooting/

    Can you imagine the effect this would have on the enemies of the White race if this guy were a race patriot?

    Well, imagine it!! This is the kind of thing we will be seeing in the future by the hundreds.

    You will in the future be seeing well-armed, mobile, and trained White men attack enemy targets many times everyday.

    The morality part of it will be acquired in the same amount of time that it took the Syrian rebels acquired it: very quickly.

  239. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 20, 2012 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    @mark:
    Are we really supposed to take you seriously? Your idea of wit is Pee -air Crayon – and you tell someone to stop embarrassing themselves? You are an embarrassment to us all. Take your childish outbursts somewhere else.

  240. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    If he takes a shot at me he should be willing and able to take something in return unless he’s too much of a pussy to withstand it.

    Are you now running interference for him?

  241. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 2:25 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    @Alice Teller

    Are we really supposed to take you seriously when you come on here and take a surname that is normally Jewish? Are you a Jew or are you just being flippant and childish?

    Either way, take it somewhere else.

  242. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 20, 2012 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

    @mark:
    The fact that Jews often adopt anglo-saxon names does not make that name Jewish. If I am running interference it is for the site and white loyalists. Promoting violence here can only do us all harm. If you had a more adult perspective you would realize that, and the fact that the real men don’t bother talking tough. If those are your best shots, it really would be better to remain silent.

  243. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 2:55 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    That doesn’t answer the question: Are you a Jew? Is Teller your real surname or an assumed name here?

    How does discussing future hypothetical violence harm us.

    Did it harm George Washington?

    Does the discussion of the use of violence harm the folks at the Pentagon?

    Does talk of the use of violence against Iran by John McCain harm him?

    Did discussion of the use of violence against the CSA by US Grant harm him?

    Has the discussion of the hypothetical use of violence harmed anybody you know of on this site? If yes, who is it?

  244. Hooper's Gravatar Hooper
    July 20, 2012 - 5:14 pm | Permalink

    @mark: Hey buddy, if you will permit, let me give you a few pointers on how you might do the job of provocateur a little more effectively. You have fairly quickly blown your cover here and are now just wasting your time. Fortunately, you haven’t been caught red-handed in person by the tsarist secret police and you can simply take a deep breath, gather yourself and come back under a new nickname and maybe do a little better. Hey it’s like a video game! You get as many lives as you want!

    The first rule of infiltrating enemy organizations: subtlety! you must actually make an effort to blend in with the group you are trying to subvert, and only much later, having earned the trust of the community, can you execute your subversive plan! And yet here you are already hurling infantile insults at one of the site’s most respected contributors (Pierre) and exhorting us to violence (at least you’ve read the first chapter of Entrapment for Dummies!). But it’s all sorely lacking in subtlety!

    But perk up slugger, not all is lost! I believe in you! You can do it! Think of a good new name and come back and really do the leg work to build some capital around here. Then…maybe then… you can nail us all on something or deftly lead us to a state of hopeless infighting and factionalism. Then you will be able to tell your grandchildren that you did your small but important part in the great fight to eliminate the miserable, evil anachronism that is white nationalism!

  245. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 5:49 pm | Permalink

    @Hooper:

    Hey Hooper,

    Who are you shilling for? Don’t get too paranoid.

    It looks like you are well acquainted with the techniques of the provocateur and have a fair amount of experience at it.

    One of the weapons of the provocateur is to post a lot of stuff that has little to do with White survival, like your idol Monsieur Pee-Air Crayoñ does.

  246. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Some are trying to take White men from the cowardly, pussified state they are now in and prepare them for the most likely future scenario—kind of like the military does in boot camp.

    It’s no secret among White females nowadays that White men are weak, withdrawn and pussified in the extreme, right ladies?

    Carolyn Yeager knows it and so do other White women:
    http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/06/18/the-heretics-hour-are-white-males-hooked-on-weakness/

    Grow a pair of balls, Hooper.

  247. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 20, 2012 - 6:18 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    You wrote the following to Jason:

    “So I’ll take it that you’ve finally given up on the anti-violence stuff since everybody in the world seems to be using it and advocating it except for you, Pee-Air Crayon, and Miss Richard.

    A sweet victory!”

    I never said that I’m “anti-violence.”

    I merely shared your comments that encourage illegal violence against White people.

    You want pro-White people to pretend to be Black people in order to harm White people.

    In one of your comments to Alice, you wrote:

    “How does discussing future hypothetical violence harm us.”

    The thing is you are not merely discussing future hypothetical violence. You seem to be encouraging it.

    For example, in one of your comments above, you wrote:

    “Let’s encourage them instead to flashmob Whites into a raging violent guerrilla military force!”

    So it seems that you are not merely discussing violence, but actively encouraging it.

    Also, you have promoted the idea that White men should chop the heads off White women who date non-White men. If I remember correctly, you want White men to do that here and now, in 2012, not just in some future situation.

    I’m writing this because I think it’s important that others know some of your values/beliefs/state of mind.

    (I know that I’m far from perfect myself.)

    Something else you wrote (to Tom) under a different article:

    “How do you expect to ever enter a folkish White society then? No White man will be permitted entry into such a society without having killed one/some of the enemy.”

    Do you believe that you will be the one who allows/denies entry into any society?

  248. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 20, 2012 - 6:59 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    I want to add something.

    I’m not sure what it is.

    I can say that I liked one of your comments a while back — the one about starting White schools/communities.

    (Not that I’m an expert on what is best for Whites or how their/our schools should be run.)

    I’m trying to say something along the lines of… I don’t dislike you on a personal level. It’s just that some of your comments concern me — because I care about White people. And I care about this website, too, and I hope your pro-illegal-violence comments do not harm it (T.O.O.)

    (Again, I’m not an expert, and I’m not assuming that I have all the answers.)

    I figure you, too, care about White people. And I think that even your comments that promote violence (against Whites) probably come from a loving place, even if it does not appear that way to some.

    Or maybe other commenters are right — maybe you are some kind of anti-White person who pretends to be pro-White, trying to trap others into committing illegal violence.

    I’m not omniscient, so I don’t know. I figure you are probably the person that you say you are — a pro-White guy named Mark.

    I hope anyone reading this comment has a good weekend.

  249. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    @Richard
    You wrote:
    You want pro-White people to pretend to be Black people in order to harm White people.

    So it seems that you are not merely discussing violence, but actively encouraging it.

    I’ll encourage anything I think will be useful in this struggle in the short term or in the long term. We are in a war of extermination. Jews and non-whites attack Whites daily here and in our ancestral homelands in Europe. We have every moral right to return that violence. Some people do not understand the magnitude of what we face. They think this is some kind of game.

    Also, you have promoted the idea that White men should chop the heads off White women who date non-White men. If I remember correctly, you want White men to do that here and now, in 2012, not just in some future situation.

    Actually, I think that may have been in 2010 or early 2011 when that thread was new. But, yes I believe we will see the beheading of White female race traitors and I have no objection to that. I think that the first time we see it, and it is made clear that the incident was carried out because of her race-mixing, that we will see an immediate reduction of this type of race crime—something we’d all like to see, right? If you will remember, when that thread was fresh, TOO had the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” feature with icons so that readers could express their approval or disapproval of various opinions and the overwhelming majority agreed with me on that issue. It was something like 3 or 4-to-1 in favor of beheadings. So that means that the majority of viewers (not to be confused with commenters) feel the same way. I don’t know why that should be such a surprise. Beheadings happen on a daily basis in the Middle East. It occurred during the Middle Ages and the Vikings used it as punishment.

    You asked:

    Do you believe that you will be the one who allows/denies entry into any society?

    I have no idea.

    Richard, thank you very much for bring this up and I sincerely hope you will continue to do it. It saves me the trouble.

    I have something I have to take care of at the moment so I’ll have to get back
    to you later on your 6:59pm comment.

  250. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 20, 2012 - 7:31 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    @Hooper:

    Ouch. I am abashed to say that the book has been on the shelf and on my to-be-read list for several decades more than I care to admit. It’s going to the top of the list immediately, and I’ll check back with you gents as soon as it’s moved to the other side of the ledger.

  251. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 20, 2012 - 8:00 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    @Hooper:

    He really takes the cake in certain ways—the $PLC cake, that is. He demands bona fides of everyone else, but he has none of his own to offer. He has a whole program of violence—well, so he says—but he has no details to divulge. And like every other Jew and gentile stooge of the Jews, he expects other people to do his fighting for him.

    Most telling of all, he wants to command white people in battle (from a safe distance), but he’s yet to disclose, despite my direct question to him, the extent of his firsthand familiarity with real war and its real bloodshed and real dead people. I know from experience that it’s bad enough going into the field with an inexperienced lieutenant, but when your major and colonel and general are equally clueless, you’re doomed before you’ve set out.

  252. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 20, 2012 - 8:35 pm | Permalink

    @mod – I know moderation seems to be unenforced, but please take a look at some of Mark’s last comments. He is an obvious Anti-White troll trying to damage to this site.

  253. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 20, 2012 - 10:07 pm | Permalink

    @Connor McNessa:
    You seem to have studied Anthropology at least more than I
    I would be curious as to your thoughts, if any, on any of the following questions:

    Why are Chimps white and Gorillas black?

    What would happen if they were artificially forced to live together?

    With the dissappearing habitate, scientists have observed both species foraging peacefully in the same general area
    (not artificially forced together)

    Chimps make and use tools, can Gorillas do this?

    Should we kill all the Gorillas because chimps are smarter?

    Do the chimps have the “moral right” to fashion crude spears (not saying they have this ability) and kill the gorillas if their survival is threatened?

    Should the Gorillas kill the Chimps because they are smaller/weaker?

    Has anyone heard of the newly discovered ape species that walks upright and does not resemble Chimps or Gorillas, the “Human Ape” ??

    Are Apes, Elephants, and whales, all of whom nurse their young for years. better mothers than human mothers?

    What would happen in ape society if mama apes started bottle feeding their newborns and leaving them to go to work?…What would Ape society look like in say, five or six generations….would Chimps lose the ability to design and build tools?
    If a baby Ape were raised in a crib in front of a TV would his brain develope normally or would grow up to be a crack-head, brain-dead, bottle-fed demo-publican, dumbed-down robot?…or worse, a politician in the two party schizm?

    Anyone have any thoughts on this?

  254. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 10:08 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    What was your role in your war? What was your MOS?

  255. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 20, 2012 - 10:23 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    @Richard

    “Or maybe other commenters are right — maybe you are some kind of anti-White person who pretends to be pro-White, trying to trap others into committing illegal violence.”

    There aren’t very many commenters who have disagreed with me, just a small number mostly from the same clique on this site. And then you have to consider the hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who view this site daily. I’m not upset about it.

    As far as trapping people into committing illegal violence, you are getting the theoretical discussion of ideas mixed up with the actual planning of specific actions which are illegal. It’s important to keep that in mind.

  256. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    July 20, 2012 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    just a small number mostly from the same clique on this site.

    I’ll venture a guess Alice Teller is one?

  257. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 20, 2012 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    “If you will remember, when that thread was fresh, TOO had the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” feature with icons so that readers could express their approval or disapproval of various opinions and the overwhelming majority agreed with me on that issue. It was something like 3 or 4-to-1 in favor of beheadings. So that means that the majority of viewers (not to be confused with commenters) feel the same way.”

    I think that was before I found T.O.O.

    Is it possible that a small number of people voted multiple times? Was it possible for someone to cheat the system somehow? I don’t think a thumbs up vs. thumbs down comment voting system is solid proof that your ideas resonate with the majority of the people who read the articles. But it’s possible.

    And even if the majority of readers support your comments, it’s possible that they are agreeing with you on an emotional level, which is understandable. What I mean is, maybe their “up” votes aren’t coming from their rational mind. It’s easy to come to a site like this and get angry at what is happening to White people, and then vent that anger (using the comment voting feature.)

    That doesn’t necessarily mean that your ideas are good in the short or long-term.

    “Jews and non-whites attack Whites daily here and in our ancestral homelands in Europe. We have every moral right to return that violence.”

    Aren’t you encouraging pro-White people to indirectly physically harm other Whites? You want to incite so-called Black flash mobs to harm White areas because you believe that might help Whites wake up — I understand that you believe that this is for the greater good. But still, you are encouraging violence against White people.

    “There aren’t very many commenters who have disagreed with me, just a small number mostly from the same clique on this site. And then you have to consider the hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who view this site daily. I’m not upset about it.”

    I’ve seen about a half-dozen commenters express strong opposition to your ideas, and it’s possible that a much larger number disagree with you but keep their thoughts to themselves.

    Anyway, I appreciate the response. And I hope my comment doesn’t carry the wrong tone.

  258. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 20, 2012 - 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Advocating violence and PREDICTING violence are two different and distinct things.
    That violence is ALWAYS an unavoidable consequence of any significant social change is just a historical fact..The nature of the beast.
    If one wants to avoid future violence at the expense of white people growing an identity and will to survive then one should NOT be trying to stir them against the Jews or anyone else. Just turn out the light and go to sleep.

  259. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 21, 2012 - 12:54 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: I can well understand why it destroyed Muggeridge’s journalism career until his Mother Teresa rehabilitation.

  260. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 21, 2012 - 8:35 am | Permalink

    @Richard:

    @Richard
    you wrote:

    “Is it possible that a small number of people voted multiple times? Was it possible for someone to cheat the system somehow? I don’t think a thumbs up vs. thumbs down comment voting system is solid proof that your ideas resonate with the majority of the people who read the articles.”

    It’s also possible that people who voted thumbs down voted more than once.

    “And even if the majority of readers support your comments, it’s possible that they are agreeing with you on an emotional level, which is understandable.

    It’s also possible that they have been thinking about these things for quite a while and that their feelings are on a very rational level, which is also understandable.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean that your ideas are good in the short or long-term.

    It doesn’t mean they are bad either.

    Aren’t you encouraging pro-White people to indirectly physically harm other Whites?

    Stupid Whites will most likely benefit greatly by violent encounters with non-whites and to that extent I have no objection to such encounters. It’s kind of like the “tough love” idea parents are sometimes forced to use with their incorrigible children. What if stupid Whites woke up to racial realities because of such an encounter? Would they not have benefitted from that encounter? Wouldn’t the rest of the White population have benefitted by their awakening?

    I’ve seen about a half-dozen commenters express strong opposition to your ideas, and it’s possible that a much larger number disagree with you but keep their thoughts to themselves.

    A half-dozen is an extremely miniscule number. Remember, thousands of people read this site everyday. It’s also possible that a larger number don’t disagree. It’s possible that those who disagree are weak and timid. It’s also possible that they don’t really understand what a dangerous and precarious situation Whites are in globally and think that we can talk our way out of this. It’s possible that they are frightened at the thought that they might have to take the struggle into the real world, not the computer world. Lots of things are possible.

  261. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 21, 2012 - 9:19 am | Permalink

    @mark: 91B, cretin. What was yours? Oh, wait! There neither is nor was an MOS for “foulmouthed, moronic infiltrator.”

  262. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 21, 2012 - 10:01 am | Permalink

    @mark:
    It has not been my experience that white men are weak. They are simply human. Since women have abandoned our traditional roles, men are foundering, lost in a meaningless world in which there are no higher ambitions than securing a playmate for the evening. Since the beginning of time, intelligent women have recognized that men have a sad tendency to be enslaved to their testosterone driven natures. It has been our responsibility to rear, coach, reward and help men to overcome this. It is women, misled by Jewish feminism to pretend that reality does not exist, who are
    culpable for the sad state of affairs in which we find ourselves. Those of us who have not succumbed to this foolish philosophy continue to enjoy our lives with wonderful strong men.

    It is not at all clear to me when I became answerable to you, but no, I am not Jewish.

  263. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 21, 2012 - 10:03 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Can we go to Mark’s home website, the SPLC, and post things like, “ain’t it about time we finally wipe out them White Gentiles? We need to start making plans for the final extermination of Whitie. Maybe if we pull of some real scary operations, that’ll scare those goyim and put them in their place.”

    I mean, if I couldn’t argue the facts and I was trying to discredit the SPLC that is what I would do.

    Mark, it is so painfully obvious you work for Anti-Whites and want so smear the site, it has become embarrassing. Please have them send the A team in.

  264. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 21, 2012 - 10:09 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    You must understand that Mark only has the SPLC caricature of a White man or woman to go by. It could be that he isn’t even an American. Maybe the SPLC outsources their troll work to India. That would explain some of the bad lapses in English and the strange inability to fake his role with any believability.

  265. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 21, 2012 - 10:13 am | Permalink

    @Bobby:
    It must be hard to grasp, but those of us in the rest of the country do not read or hear these stories. We need an underground of people living the nightmare that is in all of or futures to get the word out. Keep up the good work and encourage others to tell their tales.

  266. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 21, 2012 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I am trying to picture some sweet young Indian girl, working in an office in Chennai or Bangalore, as she tries to recall whether her next online response is directed to a Visa Titanium Card holder or to an $PLC target (such as TOO). As I say, I’m trying, but I’m laughing so bloody hard that I can’t quite get the appropriate lobes to engage.

    Hilarious comment, in short!

  267. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 21, 2012 - 11:32 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Perhaps you’d better picture an Ethiopian Jew in Tel Aviv, working for the Mossad. Average IQ of Ethiopian Jews is 66 ( as per Richard Lynn ).

  268. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 21, 2012 - 11:33 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    It’s possible that those who disagree are weak and timid. It’s also possible that they don’t really understand what a dangerous and precarious situation Whites are in globally and think that we can talk our way out of this. It’s possible that they are frightened at the thought that they might have to take the struggle into the real world, not the computer world.”

    Maybe, but I doubt it.

    Encouraging illegal violence against White people does not necessarily make a person strong, brave, or smart.

    It’s possible that those who disagree with some of your plans do understand the situation Whites are in. And it’s possible they understand the situation better than you do.

    (I’m not saying that I do.)

    You actively encourage pro-White people to pretend to be Black in order to harm Whites. You are encouraging illegal violence against White people.

    You wrote:

    “Let’s encourage them instead to flashmob Whites…”

    And here you go into specifics:

    A good strategy for recruiting Whites into the resistance, or at least seeing them get punished for their inactivity, would be to encourage these kind of negro mobs going into White areas, especially the liberal White areas that have been the source of anti-racist sentiments. The best way to educate Whites on racial matters is with a baseball bat. Don’t even try to appeal to their reason—they don’t have any.

    It would be so easy to send out a twitter message that resulted in a flash mob. Perhaps the one mentioned above was sent by a clever White Nationalist. One wonders what the effect would be if WNs started going onto black websites or other twitter sites and started instigating flash mobs. It would be best if they did it from a public computer.”

    Just because people question your plans does not necessarily mean they are opposed to violence. And it doesn’t mean they are weak or timid.

  269. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 21, 2012 - 12:26 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Actually, I don’t think mark is our opponent. He is simply misguided. I certainly understand anger and outrage on the part of the young. As always, Richard puts us all the shame in his unfailing kindness and willingness to see the best in everyone. But we are not in a position to indulge all of our young. Our people are neither ready nor willing to resort to violence. Calls to do so, especially when couched is such childish and vulgar terms will only play into the stereotype of us that alienates potential recruits.

    Note his adolescent complaint of cliques. Is is really a bad thing that some of us have come to regard each other as allies and friends, I think of it as respect. He is more to be pitied than scorned. Give him time – he may grow up someday.

  270. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 21, 2012 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:
    “Since women have abandoned our traditional roles…”

    I must admit you are getting a clue, however, women didn’t abandon their roles as homemakers. both men and women were REPLACED/DISPLACED by machines.
    Beginning with the urbanization brought about by the Industrial Revolution and culminating in the rapid replacement of the housewife by canned goods, store-bought clothes, washers and dryers etc. in the early 20th Century. Most women did not particularly want to be “Rosie the Riveter” but were compelled to by the Jew WWII and the economy. As George Baker famously said, “The Economy Stupid”
    Of course there is no going back to the horse and plow, But WISE and GOOD rulers could sure as hell keep us out of Jew wars, protect our borders, and uphold the sanctity of marriage, etc. etc.

  271. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 21, 2012 - 2:23 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Hi Alice

    I hope you and others are having a good Saturday/weekend.

    “Actually, I don’t think mark is our opponent. He is simply misguided. I certainly understand anger and outrage on the part of the young. As always, Richard puts us all the shame in his unfailing kindness and willingness to see the best in everyone.”

    I’m not sure I deserve the compliment, but thanks anyway.

    I don’t know if I have given enough respect to Mark. What I mean is, I sense that he’s a good/smart guy, probably superior to me in a lot of ways.

    (I say things like that, and they are sincere — but maybe I’m wrong.)

    I’m not great at articulating some of my thoughts/values, which makes it somewhat difficult for me to be as fair/respectful as I’d like to be.

    (Some people on this site are very talented with words — which is a great talent to have.)

    There are so many… things… that go into a comment. When I stop and think about it, it seems overwhelming. My comments aren’t perfect, and maybe they need some amount of forgiveness.

    I don’t know if I go out of my way to see the goodness in others’ comments. If it is true that I see the goodness in others’ comments, then maybe it happens naturally.

    For example, a few months ago, when I first started noticing Richard Pierce’s comments, I thought they were unnecessarily rude and unfair toward some individuals/groups. And maybe they were — I don’t know. (And maybe some of my comments have been, too.) But slowly, his comments started to seem really good to me, even if I disagreed with some parts of them or his values.

    Richard (Pierce) is probably better than me in many ways. I sense it. And he, like many others on T.O.O., has truly great gifts/talents that can go very far in helping White people.

    But anyway, like I said, there are so many things that (can) go into a comment. And so many things affect how we see and interpret comments.

  272. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 21, 2012 - 2:44 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley:
    I did not say our role as homemakers, I said our traditional role, which is vastly superior to mere housekeeping. Men and women were meant to balance and help each other, not compete. Women have always worked, one way or another, it is the least of what we have to offer. If American women were smart they would pay close attention to the men’s movement, currently being written about on Alternative Right. I don’t think they will like what they see, but it is the logical outcome of feminism. To me it is simple – I am much, much better at being a woman than I am at being a cheap imitation man. The happiness we see all around us tells the tale.

  273. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 21, 2012 - 2:47 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:
    Hi Richard, As I have said before, we must be grateful for our gifts and you do have the gift of keeping us all honest. I hope you have a great weekend too.

  274. henry baxley's Gravatar henry baxley
    July 21, 2012 - 3:19 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I am curious to know how you define the draditional role of women, that is vastly superior to the role of homemaker.

  275. Mr. Dithers's Gravatar Mr. Dithers
    July 21, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Cooper indeed raises some interesting points about how an Obama second terms might work in the favor of white nationalists. But if one applies a little chaos theory to the equation then it could be the absolute worst thing to befall the cause of pro-white racial activism and set it back or destroy it entirely.

    I don’t think I need to remind anyone that the Obama and the politicized DHS considers anyone to the right of Bill Ayers and Al Sharpton as potential “terrorists”. And black celebrities like Don Cheadle have implored Obama to “go gangster” on his political enemies in a second term. Obama has proven that he’s very willing to circumvent the legislative process and issue an EO if Congress won’t implement his radical, anti-white agenda. Then consider that Paul Craig Roberts, in a recent column, noted that his sources in D.C. informed him the Obama administration does not recognize the Constitution and you have the makings of a potential disaster in the second term.

    Cooper and those that agree with him should be careful what they wish for.

  276. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    July 22, 2012 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: My hat is off to you, Richard. Much of what you’ve been saying, here and above, isn’t merely sensible; it’s insightful and sometimes very wise.

  277. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 22, 2012 - 2:44 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Thanks, Pierre.

    I hope my comments are helpful somehow.

    You’re one of the people I had in mind when I wrote,

    “Some people on this site are very talented with words — which is a great talent to have.”

    I use the word “talent” instead of “gift” because I doubt that your ability to use words was merely handed to you. I figure it required a lot of time and effort on your part, although genes and some other things outside your control probably played a role.

    I hope it doesn’t seem like I’m giving you a compliment just because you gave me one. That’s not really the case.

    (A part of me feels uncomfortable accepting or giving compliments. But clearly another part of me… doesn’t.)

    I hope you have a good day. The same goes for anyone reading this comment.

  278. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 22, 2012 - 2:48 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Well, you can go to Carolyn Yeager’s website and listen to what she has to say about, if you like. Kevin MacDonald has written about it too at the link below.

    What’s wrong with White men? In search of an explanation
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/02/whats-wrong-with-white-men-in-search-of-an-explanation/

  279. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 22, 2012 - 3:08 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Henry Baxter wrote:

    “If one wants to avoid future violence at the expense of white people growing an identity and will to survive then one should NOT be trying to stir them against the Jews or anyone else. Just turn out the light and go to sleep.”

    Yes, Henry’s right. If you are against violence then stop criticizing the Jews, the Negroes, the Mexicans and others because historically that has led to violence against them. Just go find another hobby.

    Dr. William Pierce wrote that Whites need to be attacked to wake them up. He even wrote a fictional scenario about it. Was he an SPLC operative when he wrote that?

    You guys ought to do quite a bit more reading of White movement literature before you speak.

    Once again I’ll point out that there are only 3 or 4 of you guys who seem to disagree with that. There are thousands of people who read this site everyday.

  280. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 22, 2012 - 6:28 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Hi Mark

    “Once again I’ll point out that there are only 3 or 4 of you guys who seem to disagree with that. There are thousands of people who read this site everyday.”

    I think (but I’m not sure) that I remember more than four people expressing some kind of concern about some of your comments. And I haven’t been around as long as you have, so maybe the number is more than I’m aware of.

    I don’t think anyone actually knows how many people agree or disagree with your comments and the specific plans of violence you present in them. Just because most people don’t respond to them, does not mean they agree (or disagree) with them.

    “Dr. William Pierce wrote that Whites need to be attacked to wake them up. He even wrote a fictional scenario about it. Was he an SPLC operative when he wrote that?

    Do you have a quote?

    Did Dr. Pierce say that White people should use Blacks as weapons of violence against other White people?

    (That’s not a rhetorical question — I haven’t read most of his writings, so I don’t know.)

    Even though your comment was not written just for me, I want to clarify that I’m not saying I’m necessarily opposed to violence.

    I probably haven’t given the issue enough thought to come to a strong position/belief. But I do think it’s a good idea to question some of the things you are suggesting.

    Of course, violent encounters with non-Whites might awaken some people. I don’t think anyone here disputes that.

  281. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 22, 2012 - 11:43 pm | Permalink

    @Richard

    Here’s my quote again:

    “Dr. William Pierce wrote that Whites need to be attacked to wake them up. He even wrote a fictional scenario about it. Was he an SPLC operative when he wrote that?”

    I’ve provided one of his quotes in the form of a passage from one of his novels.

    Also, for you and any new TOO viewers, here is a link to Hadding Scott’s website where Dr. Pierce’s work is archived.
    http://www.williamlutherpierce.blogspot.com/

    Richard, read through the files there. I don’t think that you’ll have many questions after that.

    From Chapter 14 of The Turner Diaries
    http://ia700209.us.archive.org/2/items/TheTurnerDiariesByAndrewMacdonald/turner-diaries-william-luther-pierce.pdf

    “We had hoped that when we set the example of resisting the System’s tyranny, others would resist too. We had hoped that by making dramatic strikes against top System personalities and important System facilities, we would inspire Americans everywhere to initiate similar actions of their own. But, for the most part, the bastards just sat on their asses.”

    “Sure, a dozen or so synagogues were burned, and there was an overall rise in the level of politically motivated violence, but it was generally misdirected and ineffective. Without organization such activities have little value, unless they are very widespread and can be sustained over a long period.”

    “And the System’s response to the Organization irritated many people and caused a lot of grumbling, but it didn’t even come close to provoking a rebellion. Tyranny, we have discovered, just isn’t all that unpopular among the American people.”

    “What is really precious to the average American is not his freedom or his honor or the future of his race, but his paycheck. He complained when the System began busing his kids to Black schools 20 years ago, but he was allowed to keep his station wagon and his fiberglass speedboat, so he didn’t fight.”

    “He complained when they took away his guns five years ago, but he still had his color TV and his backyard barbeque, so he didn’t fight.”

    “And he complains today when the Blacks rape his women at will and the System makes him show an identity pass to buy groceries or pick up his laundry, but he still has a full belly most of the time, so he won’t fight.”

    “He hasn’t an idea in his head that wasn’t put there by his TV set. He desperately wants to be “well adjusted” and to do and think and say exactly what he thinks is expected of him. He has become, in short, just what the System has been trying to make of him these past 50 years or so: a mass-man; a member of the great, brainwashed proletariat; a herd animal; a true democrat.”

    “That, unfortunately, is our average White American. We can wish that it weren’t so, but it is. The plain, horrible truth is that we have been trying to evoke a heroic spirit of idealism which just isn’t there any more. It has been washed right out of 99 per cent of our people by the flood of Jewish-materialist propaganda in which they have been submerged practically all their lives.”

    “As for the last one per cent, there are various reasons why they aren’t doing us much good. Some, of course, are too ornery to work within the confines of the Organization-or any organized group; they can only “do their own thing,” as a number, in fact, are. The others may still have different ideas of their own, or they simply may not have been able to make contact with us since we were forced underground. Eventually we could recruit most of these, but we no longer have the time.”

    “What the Organization began doing about six months ago is treating Americans realistically, for the first time – namely, like a herd of cattle. Since they are no longer capable of responding to an idealistic appeal, we began appealing to things they can understand: fear and hunger.”

    “We will take the food off their tables and empty their refrigerators. We will rob the System of its principal hold over them. And, when they begin getting hungry, we will make them fear us more than they fear the System. We will treat them exactly the way they deserve to be treated.”

    “I don’t know why we held back from this approach for so long. We have had the example of decades of guerrilla warfare in Africa, Asia, and Latin America to instruct us. In every case the guerrillas won by making the people fear them, not love them. By publicly torturing to death village leaders who opposed them and by carrying out brutal massacres of entire village populations which refused to feed them, they inspired such terror in neighboring villages that everyone was afraid to refuse them what they asked.”

    “We Americans observed all this but failed to apply the lesson to ourselves. We regarded – correctly – all those non-Whites as mere herds of animals and were not surprised that they behaved as they did. But we regarded ourselves – incorrectly – as something better.”

    “There was a time when we were better – and we are fighting to insure that there will be such a time again – but for now we are merely a herd, being manipulated through our basest instincts by a pack of clever aliens. We have sunk to the point where we no longer hate our oppressors or try to fight them; we merely fear them and attempt to curry favor with them.”

    “So be it. We will suffer grievously for having allowed ourselves to fall under the Jewish spell.”

    “We stopped wasting our resources in small-scale terror attacks and shifted to large-scale attacks on carefully selected economic targets: power stations, fuel depots, transportation facilities, food sources, key industrial plants. We do not expect to bring down the already creaky American economic structure immediately, but we do expect to cause a number of localized and temporary breakdowns, which will gradually have a cumulative effect on the whole public.”

    End of quote.

  282. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 22, 2012 - 11:56 pm | Permalink

    And this from Dr. Pierce’s novel, Hunter.

    http://ia700209.us.archive.org/19/items/TheHunterByAndrewMacdonaldWilliamLutherPierce/hunter.pdf

    Dr. William Luther Pierce’s archives: http://www.williamlutherpierce.blogspot.com/

    “His grip tightened convulsively on the steering wheel, and the motion of the car became jerky as he maneuvered into the parking space. An instant glance to the rear, and then he put his vehicle into reverse and backed it quickly around. “

    “In another five seconds he was opposite the couple again. He stopped the car with a jerk, inadvertently killing the engine. Damn! And in the rearview mirror he saw a fat woman, two bags of groceries in her arms and a small child trailing her, walking down the lane, about 60 yards away. Both the bushy-haired mulatto and his rather dumpy, pasty-faced female companion stopped talking and turned to look directly at him. They were about eight feet from his open window.”

    “An instant calm fell over Oscar, the expected calm for which he had been waiting. With a smooth motion, neither too hurried nor too slow but precise and deliberate, he lifted the rifle from beneath the blanket on the seat beside him, raised it to his shoulder, and, left elbow braced against the door, carefully squeezed off two shots.”

    “The ear-shattering reports echoed through the huge lot, but Oscar remained calm as he put the rifle down, restarted his engine, and accelerated smoothly toward the exit ramp. As he turned at the end of the lane, he paused to glance back toward the van. The mulatto’s body was sprawled out into the
    roadway; the woman apparently had fallen backward, beside the van, and was not visible. Both shots had been head shots, and Oscar was quite certain both the man and the woman were dead. He had seen their skulls literally explode into showers of bone fragments, brain tissue, and blood as the high-velocity projectiles struck them.”

    “The icy calm stayed with Oscar all the way home. Not until he had put the car in the garage, entered the house, and taken off his coat did it give way to the euphoria he always felt afterward. He whistled contentedly to himself as he gave his rifle a quick cleaning and then returned to the garage to change his license plates. It took him only two minutes to remove the special plates and replace them with his regular ones.”

    End of quote.

    I think you’ll have to agree that shattering a race-mixing White woman’s skull into bone fragments is not a whole lot different than beheading her.

  283. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 12:10 am | Permalink

    Yeah Pierce’s fiction sucked.

  284. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 12:29 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I’d think the same thing if I were a Jew, too.

  285. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 12:48 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    Everyone should simply note the following: ALL of the fake WNs who have been revealed to be either federal agents or government informers, acted the same way. They encouraged violence, they attempted to organize it, and they promoted a childlike fascination with blow ‘em up solutions to real world problems. In short, they conformed to the caricature that the only people concerned with White surviving and thriving, were backward, dangerous, N*zis who lusted after blood.

    Of the large number of actual informers and agents who have been uncovered, were any of them reasonable in their demeanor? Did they seek to make our cause look attractive to Reachable Whites? No, of course not.

    This is straight out of the enemies playbook on discrediting pro-Whites, used by what is in effect, controlled opposition. Sadly, there are some who play this role and don’t get paid for it. It’s the sad, pathetic, stuck in adolescence view that is all too common on Stormfront.

  286. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 12:54 am | Permalink

    It is emblematic of the annoying turn TOO has taken, that you can put virtually any cuss word in post you want and it goes through, but if you put the word, “Nazi” in a post it gets held up because that phrase IS offensive to the sensibilities of the staff. Good grief.

  287. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 1:58 am | Permalink

    To all new viewers:

    Jason Speaks is a Jew and is doing everything he can to keep Whites from dealing with the Jewish problem and dealing with the other non-whites effectively.

    Don’t take anybody’s word for anything. Go to the URLs below and read the files for yourself and decide who is right and what side you’re on.

    Dr. Pierce’s work is archived at: 
http://www.williamlutherpierce.blogspot.com/
    Read through his writings from 1970-2002.

    Dr. Pierce’s first novel: The Turner Diaries
    http://ia700209.us.archive.org/19/items/TheHunterByAndrewMacdonaldWilliamLutherPierce/hunter.pdf

    Dr. Pierce’s second novel: Hunter
    http://ia700209.us.archive.org/2/items/TheTurnerDiariesByAndrewMacdonald/turner-diaries-william-luther-pierce.pdf

    Jew Jason Speaks knows very well that once Whites are adequately trained and motivated that his people will be in jeopardy. That’s the reason he wants Whites to remain in a passive state.

    Read the files at the above URLs and figure it out for yourself.

  288. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 2:11 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    And now the mind of an adolescent (or SPLC troll) is revealed. He refuses to confront the reality that every single federal informer or agent, who was pretending to be a White Nationalist, took exactly the approach he recommends.

    Wouldn’t someone honest at least address that issue?

  289. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 2:12 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Was Dr. Pierce a federal informant?

  290. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 2:37 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    No, he was not. However, he never advocated actually doing anything described in his fiction books. They were fiction. But, it is true that not everyone who advocates this approach is a federal informer.

    However, I’ve never heard of a federal informer who didn’t use this approach. So, the idea that I’m trying to talk anyone out of some approach because I fear it would be so “successful” is ludicrous. If it was an approach the elites feared, they wouldn’t pay people good money to push it.

  291. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 2:47 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    And of course, this is what governments often use to crackdown on dissidents. They encouraging a certain type of “radical” activity that results in scary spectacles, then they point out to the public how dangerous the dissidents are, and then they provide the solution, which is totally outlawing them.

    The militia movement was snuffed out after Oklahoma City – the feds had what they needed as an excuse to move in hard, plus the movement was now seen as loony and dangerous by normal folks. It’s numbers fell dramatically. The feds are dying to do the same thing with any pro-White movement. They hope for some poor misguided fool to do something that provides cover for shutting down all pro-White activity.

    You should know that. And maybe you do. Or maybe you just aren’t thinking.

  292. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 2:47 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Ok, if Dr. Pierce was not in your opinion a federal informant then new readers can go to: http://www.williamlutherpierce.blogspot.com/ and read all of the files.

    Yes, he did advocate what appears in his writings including The Turner Diaries and Hunter. He simply advocated those things using a fictional format.

    It sounds like you are quite familiar with federal informants.

  293. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 23, 2012 - 2:53 am | Permalink

    Obviously this Mark is the same Mark who glorified the killing of a pregnant Mexican woman illegally crossing the border in a long comment on the article Review of Jack’s Trough the Gates of Hell, by Brian Hess of June 16, 2012 in TOO. Whether Mark is an agent provocateur or a real “idealist”, his bloodthirsty ideas have to be rejected. In the first place for moral reasons, in the second place because such actions achieve nothing and will only be counterproductive ( revulsion by the public, strengthening the police state ).
    Mark clearly doesn’t belong here.

  294. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 3:04 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Well, I don’t know much about the militia movement, but from what little I have heard it is simply underground now. They didn’t just decide to throw away all of their weaponry and do something else.

    What you mean by “normal folks” are either White who care about nothing but themselves, or those in “law enforcement”.

    The government will crackdown or anything that threatens it whether it is legal or illegal. Look at the queer thing in California. Even after the queer marriage thing was voted down the Supremes declared it “unconstitutional”. If the government is threatened by the outcome of a democratic election, it will just void the election.
    There’s no way out of this thing but by revolution.

    I’ve heard that two important thing en route will be the destruction of the electrical grid and the economy. Surely there are White men out there who are experts at the electrical grid and the economy.

  295. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 3:05 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Whose morals?
    Pierce advocated the same thing.

  296. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 23, 2012 - 3:43 am | Permalink

    @mark:
    Pierce was a brilliant thinker but he was morally defective. Besides, all those Turner Diary fantasies are bound to fail. Terrorism can at most disrupt society temporarily but in the end achieve nothing. Did the Palestinians got their state by their terrorist attacks on buses and restaurants?

    In the US the Jews took control of the state without a single shot have been fired. They did it the intellectual way, they have to be fought the same way. But I guess that is beyond the understanding of some simple minds.

  297. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 4:01 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    You wrote:

    “Pierce was a brilliant thinker but he was morally defective.

    You are one of the very few who feel that way. For some reason you think everybody should have your “morals”.

    The American Revolution was successful, so was the French revolution, so was the Vietnamese revolution, and the Brazilian and Algerian revolutions. Terrorism was used by the victors in all of those revolutions.

    The US Government has been using terrorism against the entire world with its military for many decades now and is still using it today to terrorize the world and overthrow governments it doesn’t like.

    The US Government is using terrorism against the White population in America at this moment with much success.

    If the US Government is threatened by the outcome of a democratic election that enables White to have a homeland on American soil or to have their own schools, it will declare the results of the election “unconstitutional” will just void the election. There is no peaceful, democratic way out of the situation Whites are in.

  298. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 23, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    @mark:
    The difference between the examples of successful terrorist revolutions that you mentioned and the present situation in the US, is that those revolutions were essentially peoples revolutions, meaning they had the support of the majority of the people. Not so in the present US. The majority of the population is in an almost druggedstate. They will not identify with the struggle of a small group of terrorists. They will consider them as criminals and will applaud a crack down by the government on them.

    Remember the saying of Mao Tse Tung :
    “The guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.”
    As long as that is not the case, terrorism will fail.

  299. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 9:29 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Exactly, well put. The error I see is the desire to skip over the hard work of winning over the hearts and minds of a significant portion of the population, and just leap over all that to rule by sheer terror and brute force.

  300. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 23, 2012 - 11:06 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Seconded, with thanks for clear thinking.

  301. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 23, 2012 - 11:12 am | Permalink

    I would like to make a plea that we abandon the childish reflex of calling anyone with whom we disagree a Jew or a troll. It has been so overused that it has all the force of saying boo. When will we learn to act like independent adults rather than endlessly using the worst of our opponents techniques – only in reverse?

  302. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 23, 2012 - 11:15 am | Permalink

    @mark:
    When you mature a bit you may find that it is wiser to believe the evidence of your own life rather than defer to experts.

  303. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Franklin Ryckaert said:
    “The difference between the examples of successful terrorist revolutions that you mentioned and the present situation in the US, is that those revolutions were essentially peoples revolutions, meaning they had the support of the majority of the people.”

    To the extent that is true, they got much of that support by the use of terrorism against their own people as Pierce pointed out in the quote above at July 22, 2012 – 11:43 pm. One can also find that information at the library.

  304. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 23, 2012 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Alice said:
    I would like to make a plea that we abandon the childish reflex of calling anyone with whom we disagree a Jew or a troll. It has been so overused that it has all the force of saying boo. When will we learn to act like independent adults rather than endlessly using the worst of our opponents techniques – only in reverse?

    Hey, thanks for that post, Alice. We should also abandon the childish reflex of calling anyone with whom we disagree an SPLC operative, an FBI agent, or Mossad agent, don’t you agree?

    Alice also wrote:
    “@mark:
When you mature a bit you may find that it is wiser to believe the evidence of your own life rather than defer to experts.”

    Well, naturally, I did get the evidence from my own life. I was just quoting Pierce because his opinions are highly regarded by people in the movement who have been around for a while. Also, Richard asked me for a quote.

  305. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    July 23, 2012 - 12:59 pm | Permalink

    @mark:
    Agreed – see we are on the same side. We must learn to work together.

  306. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Very good point about relying on the evidence we see with our own eyes rather than quoting authority. It is something we all tend to do, but I notice it is more of a youthful habit. Perhaps because their experiences are not considered substantial yet by most people. It takes a certain maturity to rely on your own, first-hand experiences. We also learn over the decades, just how wrong even truly brilliant experts can be.

  307. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 7:05 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Who cares what Pierce said, alluded to or suggested. If he suggested something that is wrong, then it is wrong. Even the great Isaac Newton spent decades pursuing some kind of weird mystical alchemy that was nonsense. With all due respect to Pierce, there is a reason he had no impact on history.

    The first thing that happened after the shooting in Colorado was that the Left tried to claim the guy was a Tea Party member! They did that to smear the Tea Party. They didn’t think it would empower the Tea Party. People hate him just like they would hate anyone who took away their air conditioning (via power lines). They would not tremble in fear and awe before somebody ruining their lives, they would empower the federal government to destroy anyone even remotely associated with such acts.

    Now, I know you are going to say the people treble now before a group ruining their lives, but it is NOT the same thing. I’m tired of going through the process of pointing out all the differences. But as an indication, Jesse James was motivated, at least in part, to act as a guerrilla warrior, against Northern and federal power. But notice, the people at the time (at least in parts of the South) approved of what he was doing. They were NOT trebling in fear of him – he was simpatico with the people.

    You can’t skip over the hard work of actually creating some sense of unity with the people you wish to win over. If Pierce suggested some little group could take on the feds, terrify the people, and rule via terror and force, he was a goober.

  308. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

    The fact that we cannot use the term “n*zi” all spelled out because it offends the sensibilities of the staff here, just creates the impression that this whole site is nothing but warmed over n*zism, after all. That’s not a good impression. Look at the thread on the Holocaust issue. It is a giant discussion of Hitler, the Holocaust, as well as arcana about the Slavs and WWII – oh boy!

    All these warmed over Notzis who can’t even get along with each other. They don’t even appear to like most White people, not even their fellow Notzis!

  309. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 23, 2012 - 7:38 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    And yes, I meant trembling, not trebling. Lots of typos recently. Not much time to double check anything, sorry.

  310. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 23, 2012 - 7:42 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:Where there is no strong casus belli for war, it must be created – Bay of Tonkin (and so on); no case for internal repression, OKC bombing etc.

  311. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 23, 2012 - 7:53 pm | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: The Lavon Incident, King David Hotel bombing, etc. Jews haven’t abjured terrorism, loathsome though it be.

  312. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 24, 2012 - 12:24 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    You are in the distinct minority as you can see from the posts concerning Pierce.
    There are only a few of you who feel that way. Once you mature politically you will realize that.

    You’re against just about every White racist leader that has existed, aren’t you? Hmmm, I wonder why that is.

  313. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 24, 2012 - 12:27 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    You wrote:
    The fact that we cannot use the term “n*zi” all spelled out because it offends the sensibilities of the staff here, just creates the impression that this whole site is nothing but warmed over n*zism, after all.

    Doesn’t that somehow tell you that you are in the wrong place?

  314. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    July 24, 2012 - 1:52 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant:
    You, Mark and eventually others should stop this game of searching for historical precedents of cases of successful terrorism, and ask yourself directly this question : how much chance of success would terrorism have in the US : 1) to defeat the Federal Government ( together with the full power of the American army), 2) to win over the sympathy of the majority of the American people. For starters, just ask this question to your friends and family and see how they react. That would give you an impression.

  315. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 24, 2012 - 2:44 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert:

    Who said anything about “terrorism”. People are talking about patriotic action and fighting against the oppression of Whites.

    It doesn’t matter how many Whites are “won over”, they won’t be able to do anything about it. Just like the opponents of queer marriage were in the majority in California and their ballot initiative won, but was later overturned because it was “unconstitutional”.

    If the US Government is threatened by the outcome of a democratic election that enables White to have a homeland on American soil or to have their own schools, it will declare the results of the election “unconstitutional”, or will just void the election. There is no genuine democracy and that means there is no peaceful, democratic way out of the situation Whites are in.

  316. Fran klin Ryckaert's Gravatar Fran klin Ryckaert
    July 24, 2012 - 4:16 am | Permalink

    @mark:

    Who said anything about “terrorism”. People are talking about patriotic action and fighting against the oppression of Whites.

    I still have to meet the first terrorist who calls his own actions “terrorism”. Mostly they use such terms like “fight for freedom”, “resistance” or, as in your case : “patriotic action”.

    If the killing of unarmed civilians is involved, such as detonating bombs in public places, you can savely talk about terrorism, no matter how “idealistic” its perpetrators consider themselves. If only attacks on armed troops of the government is involved, you might call that a “guerrilla”, always keeping in mind that no guerrilla can succeed without popular support.

    No one should embark on a bloody action without considering its moral and effectual merits.

  317. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 24, 2012 - 7:47 am | Permalink

    The really strange about the state of “the movement” is that most Whites are normal, psychologically healthy people. Yet pro-White sites, and especially the White Nationalist variety, seem littered with abnormal people. People who truly don’t understand social change. And it’s not just the Rambo stuff.
    The more intellectual types often have deep sympathies with Hitler and NS Germany. They can go on for days arguing who was right between Germany and Poland. Now, that is all legitimate historical talk, but is dead on arrival as far as practical real world politics is concerned. So we are left with the feeling that too many guys are just warmed over SS officer wannabes. And frankly, it appears that what motivates them is not so much the preservation of the White race, but the power, the centralization of government, the columns marching as one, the great heroic song, and redeeming Herr Hitler, as if they are in occult contact with him. I find it creepy.
    I think it is OUR fault, the fault of normal Whites. We have failed to take a leadership position, and we’ve left it to the weirdoes. I have often thought, the pro-White movement will be saved, when it is saved from the strange White Nationalists out there today.

  318. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 24, 2012 - 9:26 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    It’s more likely the reason posts with terms like n*z* get blocked is to stop hostile trolls…i.e. people that want to leave a comment along the lines of “I hope you all die you freakin’ n*z* scum!!!”

  319. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    July 24, 2012 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I terms of a high number of psychologically strange ‘fans’ what you’re saying is true and I think gets discussed quite often in the radio broadcasts.
    There is also a large amount of disagreement between the sane and psychologically normal WN’s. I suspect there are a couple of long term moles at this level who exist to provide a very plausible and attractive but strategically useless philosophy, say involving national socialism and so on. Probably the same individuals would be involved in stirring up trouble, ensuring old wounds never died, and just basically disrupting everything as much as possible from an unassailable position of ‘principle’. It’s what I would have people do if I was on the other side. Why? Because when a potentially dangerous movement is on its back, it’s the most low cost and highly effective to make sure it stays there.

    There’s no point worrying about any of this jason. just experience it and enjoy it and keep adding your value. The WN movement cannot get off its back but that doesn’t mean it isn’t potentially dangerous and powerful. All it means is that it will take something from outside the WN movement to pull it up onto its feet. The first moves will have to come from outside.

  320. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    July 24, 2012 - 10:12 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:

    You are definitely right. It will be something outside WN that sparks a pro-White movement.

  321. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 24, 2012 - 6:51 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Hi Mark

    “Who said anything about “terrorism”. People are talking about patriotic action and fighting against the oppression of Whites.”

    I think you’re being somewhat disingenuous here.

    Chopping off the heads of White women who race mix, something that you have tacitly encouraged in the past, is definitely an act of terrorism. The main purpose is to instill terror into White women. And the media would probably label it an act of terrorism.

  322. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 24, 2012 - 10:51 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:
    Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it.

    Richard, are you a born-again Xtian or something?

  323. mark's Gravatar mark
    July 24, 2012 - 10:59 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    You Wrote:
    “The main purpose is to instill terror into White women. And the media would probably label it an act of terrorism.”

    This is the same media that would label any expression of White pride, White survival and any related legal political activity as “hate”, “racism”, “bigotry”, and “intolerance”, right??

  324. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    July 24, 2012 - 11:06 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    Hi again, Mark

    I consider myself a Christian, but not a born-again-Christian.

    That term probably means different things to different people, and it carries some stereotypes that probably don’t fit me.

    Honestly, I haven’t given it much thought.

    Why do you ask?

    (Thanks for taking the time to include the passages from Dr. Pierce. I read them.)

  325. Marcy Fleming's Gravatar Marcy Fleming
    July 25, 2012 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    I agree with the central thesis here and since I think there will be a societal crackup I want Obama to win because I want the blame to go onto the Left when the crash comes.
    The original US Revolution was the only one against tyranny,
    the French, Haitian, Brazilian, Bolshevik, Chinese and Algerian ‘Peoples’ revolutions were all disasters and all ultimate failures.
    Go to You Tube and watch the under four minute video The Death Of Johannesburg. Terrific !
    Great city under Anglo-Jewish dominance, utter disaster under Blacks.

  326. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    July 26, 2012 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    @Franklin Ryckaert: Given “loathsome”, I don’t think that’s necessary.

  327. Mother Trucker's Gravatar Mother Trucker
    July 26, 2012 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

    >>>I still have to meet the first terrorist who calls his own actions “terrorism”.<<<

    SPECTRE (SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion (The Bond series)

  328. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    July 27, 2012 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

    @Marcy Fleming: “………….I want the blame to go on the left when the crash comes.” That’s exactly why I wanted the vile and duplicitous Meg Whitman to lose her race for governor of California Marcy. When California crashes, I want the leftists and hispanic power groups in Sacramento, to get ALL OF THE CREDIT, Boxer, Feinstein, the two WORTHLESS TO THE CITIZENS state Senators, and all the rest of them.

  329. Hans's Gravatar Hans
    July 28, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @henry baxley: Indeed!

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