“What’s Up, Dr. Mack?” Martians Go Home and the Ordeal of Civility

Peter D. Bredon

Martians, Go Home
by Fredric Brown
Dutton, 1955; Bantam, 1956
Ballantine Del Rey, 1976
Gateway Essentials, 2011

“But wherever they arrived and however they were received, to say that they caused trouble and confusion is to make the understatement of the century.”

Many a science fiction book or film has a theme, or a debate therein, dealing with the question of whether “aliens” who are advanced enough to master space travel would, ipso facto, “come in peace.”[1] Are they like E.T., or Klaatu, or more like the Martians of the Wars of the Worlds of Wells and Welles?[2]

But what if they were smart, and indeed not warlike, but instead, just really, really annoying?

Such is the premise of this pulpy little novel by Fredric Brown,[3] whose alien visitors are described by Wikipedia thus:

The story begins on 26 March 1964. Luke Deveraux, the protagonist, is a 37-year-old sci-fi writer who is being divorced by his wife. Deveraux holes himself up in a desert cabin with the intention of writing a new novel (and forgetting the painful failure of his marriage). Drunk, he considers writing a story about Martians, when, all of a sudden, someone knocks on the door. Deveraux opens it to find a little green man, a Martian. The Martian turns out to be very discourteous; he insists on calling Luke ‘Mack,’ and has little in mind other than the desire to insult and humiliate Luke. The Martian, who is intangible, proves to be able to disappear at will and to see through opaque materials. Luke leaves his cabin by car, thinking to himself that the alien was but a drunken hallucination. He realizes that he is wrong when he sees that a billion Martians have come to Earth.

And here’s some more very suggestive details about these alien visitors:

They consider the human race inferior and are both interested and amused by human behaviour. Unlike most fictional Martian invaders, the Martians that Brown writes of don’t intend to invade Earth by violence; instead, they spend their wakeful hours calling everyone ‘Mack’ or ‘Toots’ (or some regional variation thereof), revealing embarrassing secrets, heckling theatre productions, lampooning political speeches, even providing cynical colour commentary to honeymooners’ frustrated attempts at consummating their marriage. This nonstop acerbic criticism stops most human activity and renders many people insane, including Luke, whose stress-induced inability to see the little green maligners divides opinion on whether he should be considered mad or blessed.

If this seems somewhat familiar, you may have had the misfortune of seeing the 1990 film, directed by David Odell and “starring” Randy Quaid and Margaret Colin — a movie so bad it hasn’t seen a Region One DVD release.[4]

But let’s stay with the book. Again, it may seem somewhat familiar, but for another reason: read with a Certain Eye, there are plenty of clues that these Martians are rather Semitic.

They are green, of course. But they are also scrawny, and bald, and have no ear lobes.[5] Most strikingly, they all look alike, differing only in relative size, male and female.[6]

On Earth, at least, there are 1 billion, in the United States, six — I mean, sixty — million, one for every 3 Americans at the time.

And boy are they annoying.

They have no names themselves,[7] think our having names is stupid, and call everyone “Mack” or “Toots.” Their favorite, or at least most common, reaction to anything is “a loud raspberry, Brooklyn style.”[8]

And react they do. Such as the first words Luke hears:

“You people all live like this or are you what they call white trash?”

The effect on the entertainment industry is immediate and fatal to all enjoyment or even communication:

“They’ve been being — well, impolite here to us, but I know that when he knows he’s talking to millions of listeners, he’ll, well — Here, fellow, will you reassure our great audience?” A different voice spoke, a voice a little higher pitched than the announcer’s. “Thanks, Mack. What I’ve been telling you was to screw yourself, and now I can tell all these lovely people to — “ The station went dead.

Soon all radio and television broadcasts are nothing but crude insults; “they all sounded like poorly organized madhouses.” One by one all other industries and cultural institutions collapse as nothing can be done with the meddlesome Martians horning in.

And everywhere and in every way they invaded privacy. Privacy, did I say? There no longer was such a thing. And it was obvious, even that first night, that for as long as they stayed there would be no more privacy, no more secrecy, either in the lives of individuals or in the machinations of nations. Everything concerning us, individually or collectively, interested them — and amused and disgusted them.

They would admit to no political philosophy whatsoever and sneered at all of them.

They sneered equally at all terrestrial governments and forms of government, even theoretical ones. Yes, they themselves had the perfect form of government but they refused to tell anyone what it was — except that it was none of our business.

They weren’t missionaries and had no desire to help us.[9]

All they wanted was to know everything that went on and to be as annoying and irritating as they possibly could.

And they tattled so. No one can guess how many people were summarily tried and executed in Communist countries during the first month or two of the Martians’ stay.

War, oddly, becomes impossible; not because they bring the rule of some benevolent planetary federation, but because our generals “shuddered at the thought of fighting a war with the Martians gleefully helping both sides.”

They do show one aptitude: linguistics.  And they respond somewhat to “reverse psychology”:

He realized this was exactly the wrong tack if he wanted the Martian to stay. He said, ‘Get the hell out of here then, if you feel that way.’ The Martian grinned. ‘That’s better. Now we’re getting somewhere.”

Animal lovers? Not really.

Animals, as such, did not interest them, although they did not hesitate to frighten or tease animals whenever such action would have the indirect effect of annoying or injuring human beings.

Horses have a particular aversion to the Martians; as a result, “horseback riding, either for sport or as a means of transportation, became so dangerous as to be impossible.”[10]

In short,

Mentally, the Martians were even more alike than they were physically, although again there was minor variation — some of them were even worse than others. But one and all they were abusive, aggravating, annoying, brash, brutal, cantankerous, caustic, churlish, detestable, discourteous, execrable, fiendish, flippant, fresh, galling, hateful, hostile, ill-tempered, insolent, impudent, jabbering, jeering, knavish killjoys. They were leering, loathsome, malevolent, malignant, nasty, nauseating, objectionable, peevish, perverse, quarrelsome, rude, sarcastic, splenetic, treacherous, truculent, uncivil, ungracious, waspish, [!] xenophobic, yapping, and zealous in making themselves obnoxious to and in making trouble for everyone with whom they came in contact.

As the preachers begin to realize, “’Martians! They are DEVILS, devils out of the foulest depths of hell, sent by SATAN, as is predicted in the Book of Revelations!’”

One especially interesting clue is that the Martians have a major, and initially devastating, impact on sexual congress. With Martians popping in to make sarcastic comments on their disgusting deeds[11] — and apparently able to see in the dark, and through curtains or blankets — the birth rate initially drops 97%. Eventually, human nature being what it is, intercourse resumes, aided by earplugs; but only within marriage, since the Martians love to rat out anyone committing adultery, having premarital relations, or, though unmentioned, I suppose any “unnatural” acts.

Thus, the Martians become the greatest enforcers of Judeo-Christian “family values;” sort of like having a neocon overseeing your sex life.[12]

One industry unaffected is … psychiatry. Professionals struggle with the impossible question of how to live with these pests.

“To ignore them completely — rather, to try to ignore them completely, to pretend that they aren’t there when so obviously they are, is a form of rejection of reality that can lead straight to schizophrenia and paranoia. Conversely, to pay full attention to them, to let yourself become seriously angry with them can lead straight to nervous breakdown — or apoplexy.”[13]

Incidence of insanity had dropped, they claimed, when it was fully realized that it was safe, mentally, to ignore Martians only up to a point. You had to swear back at them and lose your temper at them once in a while. Otherwise the pressure or irritation built up in you as steam builds up pressure in a boiler without a safety valve, and pretty soon you blew your gasket.

All else fails — even that old “UN-announces-we’ve-learned-to-unite-against-an-alien-foe,-which-must-have-been-your-beneficent-purpose,-O-artians,-so-please-go-now” trope is a bust.

Finally, an amateur crackpot named Oberdorffer —over a lunch of pigs knuckles and sauerkraut, no less — realizes that only an “anti-extraterrestrial subatomic supervibrator” will do the job; from the description of the build in his basement apartment (accompanied by several beers, of course), it rather resembles Mr. Krasker’s radio to talk with the dead.[14]

Oberdorffer’s device seems to do the trick; or does it? Brown presents several simultaneous alternatives: perhaps it’s the powerful juju (!) set up by an African tribe. Or perhaps it’s all in Luke’s head, an idea to which I will return.

All this will be rather familiar to any reader already familiar with Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s 1998 book The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements.

One interesting divergence, however, is that these aliens are not acting according to a group evolutionary strategy, as MacDonald argues. This of course makes the Martians even more infuriating to their unwilling human hosts; the Martians, it seems, are just assholes.[15]

In this, the scenario is closer to that of the 1974 book The Ordeal of Civility by Irish-American New York academic John Murray Cuddihy, which argued that the same Jewish intellectual movements MacDonald later studied are simply defensive actions prompted by the primitive, shtetl-dwelling Jews to the shameful encounter with the sophisticated modernism of the goyim. “Sure, my fingernails are filthy, but you’re just a hypocrite; and you secretly want to sleep with your mother!”[16]

From Solomon Maimon to Normon Podhoretz, from Rachel Varnhagen to Cynthia Ozick, from Marx and Lassalle to Erving Goffman and Harold Garfinkel, from Herzl and Freud to Harold Laski and Lionel Trilling, from Moses Mendelssohn to J. Robert Oppenheimer and Ayn Rand, Gertrude Stein, and Reich I and II (Wilhelm and Charles), one dominating structure of an identical predicament and a shared fate imposes itself upon the consciousness and behavior of the Jewish intellectual in Galut [exile]: with the advent of Jewish Emancipation, when ghetto walls crumble and the shtetlach [small Jewish towns] begin to dissolve, Jewry—like some wide-eyed anthropologist—enters upon a strange world, to explore a strange people observing a strange halakah (code). They examine this world in dismay, with wonder, anger, and punitive objectivity. This wonder, this anger, and the vindictive objectivity of the marginal nonmember are recidivist; they continue unabated into our own time because Jewish Emancipation continues into our own time. (John Murray, Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility, 1974, 68)

An even more up-to-date element is the economic and social effects on what, back then, was a 90% White America.

The collapsing economy and the sinking of a then mostly White America into alcohol, crime, suicide and drugs is eerily like the decay of the White working class we are in the midst of.[17] As TakiMag writes:

In 2015 Anne Case and Angus Deaton published a report that revealed working-class whites, unlike all other groups in America, were experiencing increased mortality rates due largely to causes such as suicide and substance abuse. They’ve now published a follow-up report which blames such “deaths of despair” on the twin demons of automation and globalization:

Ultimately, we see our story as about the collapse of the white, high school educated, working class after its heyday in the early 1970s, and the pathologies that accompany that decline….These changes left people with less structure when they came to choose their careers, their religion, and the nature of their family lives. When such choices succeed, they are liberating; when they fail, the individual can only hold him or herself responsible.

In an interview with NPR, Deaton reveals that when it comes to mortality rates, “poorly educated whites have now taken over from blacks as the lowest rung of society.”
No mention of Martians, though.

Martians, Go Home is not a Great Work of Literature or even of Sci/Fi, like a Dune or Stranger in a Strange Land.[18] It’s a short enough novel that the gag doesn’t quite start to wear out, and will entertain for couple of afternoons.

It’s really more of a fantasy novel than science fiction, as I understand the genres, since Brown doesn’t really feel the need to explain the Martians’ powers and abilities by known laws or even invented ones; the key power of kwimming is just one they have, although they have only just now learned to employ it at great distances, like from Mars to Earth.[19] Other powers, like the ability to read sealed letters, even in safes, is pulled out when needed, like a Silver Age DC comic. Brown even starts with a “future in a few years” prologue that notes Einstein has been refuted, and faster than light travel is possible.[20]

Brown is also not a one trick pony, or an ideologue pounding out a thesis. Little hints start to come that he’s going Phildickian on us,[21] and by the end Brown seems to have wandered into New Age territory: are the Martians really just in Luke’s head? If so, then

All he had to do was get the message to his subconscious mind.

Easier said than done; “even though he knew he was right, he lacked sufficient faith in himself.”

Eventually, he succeeds; or is it the simultaneous application of the supervibrator? Or the African Juju. Whatever, from now on “Luke is being very careful indeed how he lets his imagination work.” And as the author adds in his Postscript:

Luke is right; the universe and all therein exists only in his imagination. He invented it, and the Martians. But then again, I invented Luke. So where does that leave him or the Martians? Or any of the rest of you?

Even this, airy-fairy though it may sound, has solid contemporary relevance: for this appeal to the power of faith and the imagination is what Donald Trump learned from his spiritual guide, Dr. Norman Vincent Peale,[22] and what lies behind the forces of meme magick.[23]

So if you’re looking for some old-school science fiction, with a high J-Q and even some ripped-from-the-headlines musings, have I got a book for you, Toots!

Just to be clear, I don’t think Frederic Brown was an “anti-Semite,” or was secretly an “anti-Semite” trying to put his view across in some harmless, Animal Farm type allegory. What I find more interesting is that here, as with Olaf Stapledon’s The Flames, we have someone using the rhetorical trope of an imaginary invasion and culturally critical attack, and almost unconsciously producing an objective portrait of a Certain Tribe. Funny, ain’t it, Mack?

[1] Discussing the John Carpenter remake of The Thing, a friend of mine pointed out that the “things” in both films seem like homicidal monsters, and that the space craft must have been piloted by an advanced, presumably peaceful being who was itself the first victim of the Thing, hence the crash landing. Similarly, in Alien, the dead civilization discovered by the crew of the Nostromo must have been destroyed by the titular Alien, not produced by it.

[2] Or if they initially come, talking of “master races” and having “no concern for foreign beings,” to colonized the Earth as feeding grounds for their “gargon herds,” perhaps one of the crew is a dreamy teenager who will come to understand our “love” and thwart his father’s invasion plans; see Teenagers from Outer Space (Tom Graeff, 1959).

[3] Not familiar to me, Brown gets around. According to Wikipedia, “Arena,” a science fiction short story first published in the June 1944 issue of Astounding magazine, “in effect recreates, under new circumstances, champion warfare: a type of battle, common in the epic poetry and myth of ancient history but extinct in modern wars, in which the outcome of the conflict is determined by single combat, an individual duel between single soldiers (“champions”) from each opposing army; “ it was chosen by members of the Science Fiction Writers of America “as one of the best science fiction stories published before the advent of the Nebula Awards, and as such it was included in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame Volume One, 1929-1964. The Star Trek episode “Arena” had some similarity to this story, so to avoid legal problems, it was agreed that Brown would receive payment and a story credit.” A not unusual occurance. “An Outer Limits episode, “Fun and Games”, also has a similar plot, as does an episode of Blake’s 7, titled “Duel”.”

[4] Failed comedies seldom have the fortune to fall into the “so bad it’s good” cult category; see the remarks on The Wild Wild World of Batwoman, here. Oddly enough, Quaid and Colin went on to have roles in the more conventional, and vastly more successful, Independence Day, which was also co-written by Martian co-star Dean Devlin.

[5] Like Blofeld!  See Jef Costello, The Importance of James Bond (San Francisco: Counter-Currents, 2017).

[6] IF there are any females. How the Martians reproduce is a mystery; some speculate that they just grow on trees, like coconuts.

[7] “Historically, Jews did not have permanent family surnames at all. Within the Jewish community, we used patronymics, such as David ben (son of) Joseph or Miriam bat (daughter of) Aaron. Names in that form are still used in synagogue and in Jewish legal documents such as the ketubah (marriage contract), but are rare outside of the religious context. Family names began to gain popularity among Sephardic Jews in Spain, Portugal and Italy as early as the 10th or 11th century, but did not catch on among the Ashkenazic Jews of Germany or Eastern Europe until much later.” Judaism 101, here.

[8] I think he means Bronx, as in “Bronx Cheer.”

[9] “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel about on sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves,” Matthew 23:15. Contemporary Judaism is noted as no longer being a proselytizing religion, although there is some dispute over the meaning of the term. They seem to be doing OK among the Trumps, though.

[10] After some initial fighting, cats learn to ignore the Martians; “but then cats have always been different.”

[11] “I’ve heard about your disgusting mating habits. Now I can watch them.”

[12] Auberon Waugh once protested the modern idea of the Church endorsing sex, conjuring up the picture of “Saintly Fr. O’Bubblegum leanin’ in the window and blessin’ the union.”

[13] “It was through the study of children and their reaction to Martians that I have formulated most of my theories.“

[14] “Krasker’s radio to the dead, however, looks like a crumpled ball of tinfoil glued onto a skillet. This is connected to an electric stove top mounted on a wall. Impressive technology, but I wouldn’t advise the otherworldly equivalent of holding one’s breath waiting for this thing to work.” Cinedome, Jan. 24, 2015, here. See more about The Dead Talk Back (Gould, 1956) here, as well as in this review of  Jason Reza Jorjani’s Prometheus and Atlas (London: Arktos, 2016), here.

[15] It’s kind of a mashup of the South Park episodes “Jakovasaurs” and “Goobacks.”

[16] Matthew Wiener’s series embodies the same strategy of presenting the WASP as a fake and a phony. As usual, crypsis is invoked: it is old-family WASP Pete Campbell who tries to expose Don Draper, while rather than show the Jewish takeover of Madison Avenue, Don’s firm is bought out by the Irish Catholics of bigger rival agency McCann (another green alien!).

[17] The narrator introduces a despondent President who “had not thought it was a bad thing to be elected President when it happened in 1960,” but I guess JFK found that out as well.

[18] Brown was one of three dedicatees of Heinlein’s novel. In addition to being reprinted in the Gollancz Masterworks series, the French apparently love it. According to Wikipedia, “The novel is considered a classic of science fiction by the following works of reference:

  • Annick Beguin, Les 100 principaux titres de la science-fiction, Cosmos 2000, 1981;
  • Science-fiction. La bibliothèque idéale, Albin Michel, 1988;
  • Enquête du Fanzine Carnage mondainauprès de ses lecteurs, 1989;
  • Lorris Murail, Les Maîtres de la science-fiction, Bordas, coll. « Compacts», 1993;
  • Stan Barets, Le science-fictionnaire, Denoël, coll. « Présence du futur », 1994.”

Well, I’m impressed! Coincidentally, the South Park “Jakovasaur” episode ends with “the Jakovasaurs on tour in France looking for “the pyramids” when Jakov trips and crashes into a cafe full of French people. Rather than getting annoyed, the French people instead laugh and remark on how he reminds them of Jerry Lewis.”

[19] Puzzling over the Martians, “many people and especially scientists” suggest that “kwimming was simply the ability to project and astral body that was visible but not corporeal.” These psi-friendly scientists have perhaps been reading their world’s equivalent of Jason Reza Jorjani’s Prometheus and Atlas (London: Arktos, 2016).

[20] Einstein wrong? Anti-Semite!

[21] Wikipedia says that “His 1945 short story “The Waveries” was described by Philip K. Dick as “what may be the most significant—startlingly so—story SF has yet produced,” but provides no citation.

[22] “Faith plus dynamic dreams plus real working at it is a go-ahead formula that gets you where you want to go.”

[23] See here for more on Peale, Trump and the power of imagination.

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16 Comments to "“What’s Up, Dr. Mack?” Martians Go Home and the Ordeal of Civility"

  1. Sir Charles Pipkins's Gravatar Sir Charles Pipkins
    May 4, 2017 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Lizards have some Semitic features too.

  2. Peter's Gravatar Peter
    May 5, 2017 - 1:22 am | Permalink

    I enjoyed this book review very much. I wonder if there will ever come a time when a writer can write about Jews and criticize them when they behaved in a disgusting manner without being called “anti-semitic”. Will a historian be able to write an accurate account of awful Jewish behavior without being called “anti-semitic”? I suppose it is “anti-semitic”, depending on how the expression is meant, but isn’t it normal and perhaps moral to be anti-semitic if the writer is describing something awful that the Jews have done. There is no similar term like “anti-semitic” that applies to any other people.

    I was born to Germans in the 1950’s and I grew up watching a constant stream of hatred on TV and film, most of it produced by Jews but I think I may have seen the expression “anti-German” once, but I think some people might think (thanks to the Jews) not to be anti-German is immoral or wrong. And when the Jews write to criticize Russians, Poles or anyone else for how they treated Jews, they want those peoples perceived the same way. They have never done anything wrong (according to their recitation of events) and only those reacting to them are wrong.

    I think this website is great. I think your writers are fair, accurate and highly intelligent. I think the two websites VDARE and AMREN also do great work, but I think they are dishonest and cowardly for never having anything critical to say about Jews and even criticizing people on this website for being critical of Jews. As one of the writers here said, Jews have played a central role in so many historical events, but with their control of the narrative they’re left completely out of any description if it would reflect badly on them. That produces dishonest, inaccurate and distorted history.

    With President Putin (and many others saying similar things) saying Jews made up 80 to 85% of the first communist government in the USSR, how can someone write about the butchering of millions (Russians, Ukrainians and others) that regime carried out and deny (to use their word) Jews were responsible for the genocide (for instance the Holodomor) that took place. And if Jews began paying Winston Churchill huge sums of money in 1936 to make war on Germany (first in his newspaper articles and later as leader of Britain), as historian David Irving has said (with strong evidence to substantiate that claim), how can an accurate history of WW II be written if this is deliberately kept out of the history books, particularly since Hitler accused the Jews of trying to start the war in at least one speech. If Jews were responsible for the millions of Germans burned alive in their cities, people might think the Germans treatment of Jews during the war was a reasonable response.

    • ex South African's Gravatar ex South African
      May 6, 2017 - 4:11 am | Permalink

      Peter, I second you. A very, very worrying development. And when I read the websites of the few organizations that still try to keep the flame alive in my old fatherland, they do not seem to have completely grasped the issue, so the adversary will always be one step ahead.

    • Alicia's Gravatar Alicia
      May 6, 2017 - 10:49 am | Permalink

      Dear Peter, I was born in Poland in 1951 and it took me way too long to realise that Poland is despite the great Shoah – and the subsequent flight to other countries because of the Polish antisemitism, still crowded with crypto members of the chosenite tribe. Having dug a bit, I have finally understood that I have much more in common with the German people than with them. Those crypto members of the tribe dominate Poland’s parliament and the “patriot” government, not to mention the MSM. The (((Polish)) MSM naturally put much effort into inflaming Poles not only against Russia but also against the German people. Russia is painted as Poland’s worst enemy that would invade the country without NATO protection, whilst the Germans are demonized for their alleged ownership of mass media! That Poland is since a while “enriched” with 2,5 million Ukrainians and Chechens – many of them criminals – isn’t of any concern to the “patriot” authorities. Unfortunately, I have moved to Sweden nurturing the illusion that I would escape from totalitarian system.

  3. May 5, 2017 - 9:59 am | Permalink

    Jews are far worse than annoying, they are psychopathic murderers intent on wiping out other cultures.

    Perhaps the best fiction story that illustrates the present situation is
    Eight O’Clock in the Morning
    by Ray Nelson. This interesting short story was turned into a cinematic masterpiece of cultural commentary by an screen writer named “Frank Armitage” and turned into John Carpenter’s film They Live.

    It is claimed that “Frank Armitage” was merely one of Carpenter’s nom de plumes, but given the contrasting evidence of his other schlock horror movies to this incredibly insightful cultural commentary, I find it difficult to accept that story.

    Some time ago I read that Carpenter met Armitage at an airshow in Northern California and struck up the deal for the script there. That seems a far more likely scenario.

    Here is a sampling of the brilliant dialogue from that movie. Ask yourself does this fit? They call this “satire,” if so this is very sobering satire. I believe a more accurate description would be “a thinly disguised allegory.”

    Pirate TV announcer: “. . . Our impulses are being redirected. We are living in an artificially induced state of consciousness that resembles sleep.”

    “. . . The movement was begun eight months ago by a small group of scientist who discovered quite by accident these signals being sent . . . .”

    “. . . The poor and the underclass are growing. Racial justice and human rights are non-existent. They have created a repressive society and we are their unwitting accomplices. Their intention to rule rests with the annihilation of consciousness. We have been lulled into a trance. They have made us indifferent to ourselves, to others. We are focused only on our own gains. Please understand they are safe as long as they are not discovered; that is their primary method of survival. Keep us asleep, keep us selfish, keep us sedated.”

    “. . . They are dismantling a sleeping middle class. More and more people are becoming poor. We are their cattle, we are being bred for slavery. Our transmitter is not powerful enough; the signal must be shut off at the source.”


    Gilbert: “The world needs a wakeup call and we’re gonna’ phone it in.”


    Pirate TV announcer: “. . . Look around, there is a signal broadcast every second of every day through our television sets. Even when the set is turned off, the brain registers the input of the signal and programs the person’s compliance.”

    Gilbert: “Most of the cops are human, they’ve been told were commies trying to bring down the government and some of them are being recruited. The creatures are trading wealth, power.”

    Frank: “You mean people are joining up with them?”

    Gilbert: “Most of us sellout right away. All of the sudden we get promoted, our bank accounts get bigger; we start buying new houses, cars – perfect isn’t it? We’ll do anything to be rich.”

    Pirate TV announcer: “. . . Look around at the environment we live in; the carbon dioxides, fluorocarbons and methane have increased since 1958. Earth is being acclimatized; they are turning our atmosphere into their atmosphere.”

    Frank: “What do these things want and why are they here?”

    Gilbert: “It’s in their best interest, they’re free enterprisers. Earth is just another developing planet – their third world.”

    Pirate TV announcer: “. . . We are like a natural resource to them. They deplete the planet and move on to another. They want benign indifference, they want us drugged. We could be pests, we could be food, but all we really are is livestock . . .”

    Gilbert: “Alright now, everybody listen up. We’re obviously not getting to enough people because look at our numbers tonight. There should be twice as many of us here. We’re getting too sloppy, that’s all there is to it! Now their detection is becoming more effective. We have to be more careful. Stay aware of keeping up appearances. Go to work, punch your time clock, do what’s expected of you. We’ve gotten reckless and the movement is suffering for it.”

    Bystander: “Time to stop talkin’ about it – tryin; to figure out how it happened – now we start spilling some blood!”

    Gilbert: “Wait, wait, wait a minute, it’s not working! We don’t stand a chance with a few guns and grenades.”

    Bystander: “So what are we supposed to do?”

    Gilbert: “We bide our time, we seek out and locate their signal and shut it off! Wake people up!”


    Bum: “Wait boys wait, you’re making a big mistake!”

    Frank: “You made the mistake.”

    Bum: “No, no, you gotta’ listen to me, I thought you boys understood, it’s business that’s all it is. Ya’ still don’t get it do ya’ boys? There ain’t no countries anymore, no more good guys. They’re running the whole show, they own everything, the whole goddamned planet, they can do whatever they want! What’s wrong with having it good for a change? Now they’re gonna’ let us have it good if we just help ‘em. They’re gonna leave us alone, let us make some money and you can have a little taste of that good life too; now I know you want it, hell everybody does.”

    Frank: “You’d do it to your own kind.”

    Bum: “What’s the threat? We all sell out every day, might as well be on the winning team. – See ya’ boys!”

    Of course Jews have been in a tither over what this movie portrays to the gullible goyim. Naturally they have made an effort to nullify the message, going to the extent of having Hollywood remake the movie, to wit: “The good news for fans of Carpenter’s film is that Reeves’ project isn’t considered a remake, but rather a more loyal and fresh adaptation of the original source material.”

    While I have never seen the remake, I will bet my last silver shekel that it completely alters the original movie’s message, reducing it to bland insignificance while highlighting gratuitous sex and violence in the same manner the aliens in the original movie might do. They even have Carpenter fighting the good fight

    Here is an analysis of the short story versus the movie.

    • Nick Dean's Gravatar Nick Dean
      May 5, 2017 - 3:28 pm | Permalink

      A portion of a comment I posted online in 2008:

      Look at these numbers: http://the-numbers.com/movies/1988/0TLIV.php

      Production budget $4,000,000

      Which it made back ENTIRELY in its first week! $4,827,903

      The studio should have been over the moon. But then Someone Somewhere watched it, and to borrow Larry Silverstein’s phrase: they decided to “pull”.

      All the copies were called in and by week three it was appearing in NO cinemas anywhere. It never had an international cinema release, and only periodic revivals as it became a cult favourite.

      It’s not only the film which reveals so much about the world we live in – so does its commercial history.

      /endquote 2008


      It’s just symptomatic that Carpenter can’t see his aliens better represent Jews than yuppies or Republicans.

      Artists are the most indoctrinable and indoctrinated of us all, they took in the dominant Jewish culture at the sense level, from where it spread everywhere becoming the framework for all their ‘own’ ideas and assumptions. Even intellectuals are better – at least they had some defences, some form of reasoning, tho often artificially weak. But it isn’t by accident that the ordinary bloke – the plumber, the farmer, the engineer, is much more on our side than the intellectual, and he than the artist.

      Our natural prejudices are the base we can build on, not ideas, and certainly not art. We progressively move away from ourselves when adopt the ideas for ideas sake message of the intellectuals (counter-currents, ENR, etc.), and even more when we say we must first have a new art and literature (Dave Yorkshire, Tito Perdue, etc.).

      That, quite obviously is false, when virtually all regular people feel as we do, but far fewer intellectuals do so, and almost no artists. It would be suicidal to follow the path of the first demographics to jump off the cliff.

    • Karen T's Gravatar Karen T
      May 6, 2017 - 5:49 am | Permalink

      It’s probable that John Carpenter’s They Live was not misinterpreted, that the “anti- semitic” message was intended. His post, 28 years after the fact, like Mel Gibson’s back-handed apology, was necessary for his and his families well being. These men live and work in Hollywood, so their insights into the JQ would surpass ours. Charles Bukowski on his Hollywood experience:
      “I found out that Hollywood is more crooked, dumber, crueler, stupider than all the books I’ve read about it. They didn’t go deeply enough into how it lacks art and soul and heart…..They’re greedy and vicious.”

      • Nick Dean's Gravatar Nick Dean
        May 6, 2017 - 11:13 am | Permalink

        No. Too many of the subliminals *they* promote in the film, especially: ‘marry and procreate,’ are directly contradicting the Jewish agenda. Artists and intellectuals have absorbed the sense and been led to believe by lies from Jews that the ‘right wing establishment’ wants large, healthy intact White families. Antisemites know it ain’t so. Carpenter doesn’t. He isn’t onto the Jews. He’s stuck at nice vs.nasty people and Hollywood Jews decided for him.

        • Nick Dean's Gravatar Nick Dean
          May 6, 2017 - 11:31 am | Permalink

          THEY LIVE is ripe for a genuinely aware and meaningful ‘fan edit’ with some photoshopping!

      • Karen T's Gravatar Karen T
        May 7, 2017 - 11:32 am | Permalink

        Wishful thinking on my part that familiarity breeds contempt when dealing with the tribe. That this adage is not necessarily true in Hollywood or New York real estate and development, as evidenced by Trump, could be because people attracted to either have already drank the corrupting kool-aid and are drawn to these businesses like flies to feces.

  4. m's Gravatar m
    May 5, 2017 - 10:34 am | Permalink

    I wonder if there will ever come a time when a writer can write about Jews and criticize them when they behaved in a disgusting manner without being called “anti-semitic”.

    The answer is, no. If we are talking about a Jewish reaction. For Jews, any criticism will always be considered anti-Semitic. The better question, if I may, is will there ever be a time when a writer can openly criticize Jews and no one will be scandalized, lose their job, or even care, because people will know that the criticism is likely true.

  5. T. J.'s Gravatar T. J.
    May 5, 2017 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Insanely funny Mexican TV:

    • Peter's Gravatar Peter
      May 5, 2017 - 9:22 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for posting this. School children (not to mention adults) from around the world should see it.

        May 7, 2017 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

        Its a parody.

    • Ger Tzedek's Gravatar Ger Tzedek
      May 6, 2017 - 8:01 am | Permalink

      Speaking Mexican, this seems like the Hitler bunker memes, unrelated to what the guy actually says.

    • Nick Dean's Gravatar Nick Dean
      May 6, 2017 - 10:47 am | Permalink

      In the original they’re laughing at Trump’s wall idea. The holo translation is overlayed. That’s where it got funny.

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