Israel has long had policies where people can be stopped and asked for identification; racial profiling is the norm. But Jewish organizations in America are vehemently and pretty much unanimously opposed to the Arizona law that does the same thing.
Now an article in Haaretz discusses the fact that it’s not just about suspicious-looking Palestinians (“Reminders of Israel in the Arizona immigration debate“). Prime Minister Ariel Sharon instituted a policy to cleanse Israel of foreign workers in 2002, and “by the end of 2005 about 145,000 ‘illegal residents’, as they were called, were expelled or ‘left willingly.’” There were objections to the policy, but everyone got over it pretty easily.
Fast forward to 2010 and the Arizona law. A group of Reform rabbis sent a letter to Arizona Governor Brewer expressing their outrage at the (U.S.) law, calling it, “inhumane and retrogressive”; “an affront to American values of justice and our historic status as a nation of immigrants”; a slippery slope, to say the least….. This bill moves us in the wrong direction, violating the principles of justice on which our nation was founded. We should, instead, focus our energy on comprehensive reform of our immigration system.”
Abe Foxman called it “biased, bigoted and unconstitutional.” When asked about how to reconcile this with Israel’s successful policy, Foxman doesn’t see a problem: “Well, in terms of size and dimension [??] Israel is nowhere near the U.S.”
So you see, size is everything. If you are small, you don’t have any obligation to have a government based on “principles of justice.” (For the record, the percentage of illegals in the US [probably more than 4% if there are 12 million] is much higher than illegal Israelis [~2.4%].) You can be as “inhumane and retrogressive” as you want. Big countries, on the other hand, have a moral obligation to uphold the highest standards of justice by letting in anyone who manages to get here–legal or not.
This “argument” isn’t worth bothering with. About the only thing it shows is the inexhaustible depths that an obsessively ethnocentric person can descend to. There are no contradictions; no hypocrisy; no double standards. It’s inconceivable that what’s good for Jews could possibly depart from the loftiest of principles.
White advocates tend to have a much harder time reconciling interests with principles: We are quite aware that the proposition nation isn’t working for us–that ethnic activists like Foxman and the Reform rabbis love to invoke high-minded principles to advocate policies that are against the interests of White Americans (while ignoring those principles in judging what is going on in Israel). That’s a big part of our problem because so many Americans–especially White Americans — are addicted to these principles. They are deeply embedded throughout the school system and are suffused with patriotic sentiments. Our wars are framed as having been fought for these principles.
Getting White Americans to think about their ethnic interests first and foremost is a tough sell indeed, but I think it will happen as Whites realize that their principles can’t save them from being submerged and displaced. The first step is to get Whites to realize that explicit expressions of White ethnic identity and interests are legitimate–morally legitimate.
Facing the Future as a Minority
All the Jews that like Foxman please stand up!
No?
Not one?
Look – we on the Jewish right do not like Foxman, I think the message has been loud and clear from the Lapins and Praegers. He runs his own show, and he doesn’t represent us.
Obviously we are for complete end to immigration + deportation, be it in Israel (with the fake Jews called Ethiops and Russians) or in Arizona or New York.
“… he doesn’t represent us.”
Says who? Do you represent “them”?
Not one Jew likes Foxman? What are you smoking? The ADL wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for paranoid Jews opening their checkbooks every so often to help him advance their collective interests.
That’s what’s so amazing about Foxman. It’s not just that he’s Jewish-all groups have their monsters. It’s that Foxman is considered such a fine specimen of Jew that his fellow Jews choose him to represent the Jews to the outside world. I surmise that Foxman has a high degree of tact and diplomacy by Jewish standards, as well as a refined view of long-term Jewish interests. Only a people who could put Howard Stern on the radio could make Abe Foxman their political spokesman.
A mega Bingo to you on this story Kevin! Besides showing the duplicity and hypocrisy of organized Jewry, which is essentially the organized will of the Jewish people, you highlighted the flip side of the White dilemma. The Jewish and liberal misrepresentation of White self-perception, which is peddled 23/7 via the media, to wit: “…so many Americans – especially White Americans – are addicted to these principles. They are deeply embedded throughout the school system and suffused with patriotic sentiments. Our wars are framed as having been fought for these principles.”. This warped, self-destructive Anglo-American mindset is the biggest impediment that we face, in trying to racially survive. How to detoxify the White mindset, with no media access, is the greatest hurdle.
people might quesiton why we or the media listen to foxman and why he has so much power if his arguments make no sense. the answer is simple. Power shits on reason (as ben franklin said) Jews are in power, they need only provide the most absurd veneer to justify their behavior.
Their power has to be confronted. Of course, much of this involves de-programming whites.
Abe Foxman is a hypocrite? No shocker there.
Kevin,
“Kevin MacDonald: Shocker! Abe Foxman is a hypocrite.”
May I respectfully suggest that you read ‘Fragments of Behaviour: The Extensional Stance’ again? It makes much of the fact that people in general don’t do ‘joined up thinking’ very well. This was translated as ‘silo-thinking’ in our Home Office a decade or so ago.
Intensional opacity (an inherent function of the pernicious intensional verbs of propositional attitude) creates major problems for people, albeit, for some more than others.
One recent epidemiological study estimated that the prevalence of individuals with at least one Axis II Personality Disorder in the US population is about 15% and this varies as a function of ethnic group. It would be interesting to see how this fares in NYC given its demographics (see post 5 below).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/09/wednesday_19_september_2007.html
Dr. MacDonald wrote:
I’m afraid that it’s wishful thinking. The die has already been cast. The minority population increase is irreversible- now 35% and rising fast. Brazil here we come!
@TGD,
This defeatism is ill conceived and weak. The die is not “cast”. There are several future scenarios for White survival, and continued, growing signs that Whites are moving slowly but surely in the right direction. The most likely scenario involves an eventual breakup of the US, its happened throughout history, almost happened in Canada relatively recently and is a natural occurrence when two or more populations have little in common (Czechs and Slovaks, Ukrainians and Russians, etc.) How or when this will occur is subject to speculation, but as the United States becomes multicultural and less and less united, it will naturally come apart. There is every hope that in the future we will have our ethnostate. There are always the weak voices of defeatists and losers proclaiming all is lost in every cause even before the battle is fought though, and they are to be ignored as we soldier on to our eventual victory.
I think we will split along racial and ethnic lines with the acceleration of the many and several independent states at least in the beginning ignoring what federal diktat socialist mandates that Cesspool on the Sodomac along with the appointed incompetent black muslim diktator orders. Or it could be all us crackrs and honkys get our s&^t together with extreme what ever it takes house cleaning and the entie nation will feel our wrath.
@tgd and andrew
no need to despair – you might even get to keep the whole thing: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/7818281/Geert-Wilders-to-enter-Dutch-government-after-support-for-anti-Islamic-party-triples.html
the dutch are famous for their ‘tolerance’. look at jobbik in hungary too. despite failing to win a parliamentary seat the bnp also increased its national vote. things are changing in europe, and will change in the us.
@TGD
The White demographic implosion is the direct result of pro-contraception reforms implemented by Protestants in the 1930′s and informally accepted by most Catholics in the 1960′s. Abortion was then demanded as a necessary backup to contraception.
Children of small families are intensively groomed for white collar careers. Large families usually produce white and blue collar workers. Since there are now very few large White families, an economic demand is created to import foreigners for the blue collar jobs.
Don’t you find the name Anti Defamation LEAGUE suspect. Leagues have groups/interests who are in order of preferences whether deservedly or not. Although Anti Defamation is commendable, some groups/interests are much more important than others. Jewish interests are ubiquitous and numero uno in the case of ADL.
All the good fun Jew bashing apart, Liberalism, socialism and multiculturalism are not the same a Zionism. There can be no doubt that many Zionists and Jewish ethnowarriors road in these vehicles … but some here seem to suppose that they are solely manifestations of Zionism, or Jewish interest — some kinda of Abracadabra that would lose its power if only the later is outed and the men behind the curtain are pointed out. This isn’t the case.
Go read current MultiC philosophy. http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=RJOBkxTgtNwC&oi=fnd&pg=PR7&ots=HCWMOVK6vq&sig=MBJAC87RIzWtXHg1yrQzxvJoyS8#v=onepage&q&f=false
If you want to keep some of your ethnos, it’s going to take more than ‘outing the Jew.’
AngryJew,
The problem is that, as a group, we’re hurtin.’ Europeans, don’t have the institutions and culture to survive in a plural cultural “diverse” environment. ‘We’ are not like Jews — In the best case scenario, Like the pagans of old, we are going to be integrated, assimilated, and when not, burned.
So, instead of defending Jews, why not help us figure out how we can co-opt some jewish strategies.
Yes, and the cleanest way to do that is to adopt the strategy of loudly and frequently resisting defamation? It provides a model of what strong and diverse white Americans do when insulted.
http://www.resistingdefamation.org
Chuck: “If you want to keep some of your ethnos, it’s going to take more than ‘outing the Jew.’ “
Maybe so, but what’s easier to do and more useful than ‘outing the Jew’ ?
In any case, most Americans who try to resist today’s destructive dominant ideology have no idea that Jewish activism is a big part of the problem. They are trying to influence things in other ways, not by outing the Jew.
Abe Foxman – the fox :
…sits on his throne with the crushed bones of Aryan martyrs beneath his paws. The talons stained from the blood of a thousand heroes, and
thousands more to follow. Scheming, spying, conspiring against the
Gentiles, snarls ! grunts ! grrrr ! It`s a tough business consolidating
Israel`s World domination but the fox will sink to the darkest and the
deepest of depths for the tribe, for Israel.
Not even the intellectuals can utter an opinion without the fox launching
his high-tech assault – all his flanks are secure, neatly secure.
70 million a year, the fox`s ADL has all the resources it requires.
The fox is very tactical, very strategic and plans ahead, meticulously.
All eventualities are ripped apart, explored, analysed, mastered.
If Kevin and the other wise-men were promoted, then the fox knows his
agenda would be sorely wounded. I guess they`ve got you pretty-
well contained, kevin ? But not entirely, thank God.
What a future, behold ! : Aryans, ruled by the hostile elite, surrounded by hostile immigrants, living/dying under Zionist-tyranny,
enveloped by machete-wielding La Raza Troglodytes ! Nightmare !
Hypocrisy is the BEST of Foxman’s traits; this man openly applauds the mass murder of children. This page below is now top of the Google search engine!
http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/adl_supports_mass_murder.html
Why do we fail and continue to fail?
Many reasons many causes but one of the most significant I believe, is unwittingly illustrated by most of the commentators above it is:
“U.S.”- “America” “Americans.” That is the fact that Americans, even the most enlightened and racially aware/ jew-wise, pro-Eurofolk just cannot think other than “American”.
They have/ are, self isolated in an American world and suffocating all excluding, selfish ‘America’ culture.
Here they are commentating on the works of an (another) Englishman/ European who’s insightful writings concern the ruinous effects of jewry upon the whole world- not just upon America or Britain. Yet the comically parochial American reader can only see the concept of his own local bit of sod. Compare any of the great writers of past or present including DR. Compare these and DR’s work with that of ANY American- he was an Englishman and writing in a more ‘jingoistic’ era, yet he rarely used the words- ‘England’ or ‘Britain’ save when these were pertinent. Yet every American writer inserts ‘America’ ‘U.S’ etc in every other sentence.
This mindset results in keeping America isolated in thought word and deed from the rest of humanity, and makes the rare, new, U.S. Nationalist or ‘resistance’ party into a local gunnist/ goddist, constitution hankering historic re enactment group (whether of the Boston Tea party or of the 3rd Reich) Neither are appropriate tools for the job in hand.
The problem is global, the enemy is highly mobile and organised.
The solutions are there, and we of Euro descent are still the most imaginative and inventive folk that have ever existed. United, and especially in concert with the teeming billions in the rest of the world, we can both out think and out muscle our mutual enemy.
We must succeed for our sake and for the world, because it is obvious that the enemy is totally insane and actually desires the destruction of the world. We no longer have the luxury of time and indolence- there is no going back- we either go all out to win or we all die out and soon.
It’s either us or them- they always knew this in their constant war against us- so should we wake up, look the facts straight in the eye and see that we are at war- not of our making nor desiring but war it is.
Good points, ThatMan. Whites – whether Americans, Europeans, Australians – need to realize that we live in a post-national era. We need to think and act on a global scale. To think in terms of race and ethnicity instead of nationality.
I cant wait to )*^% on his tomb
Severis 6-11-10 @ 10:41 am. Is it possible that you, Thatman @ 3:31 am, and Giseric @ 6:54 am are indulging in a bit of Critical Theory ? How about a few more historical details regarding some underlying causes behind all this odious behavior on America’s part? You might not of covered them all yet. Myself, I’m still working on it. Perhaps you can help me out a bit. “There are greater things in heaven and earth, Horatio than are dreamt of in our plilosophies.
Lulz at the a-historical spiritualists in this thread who are pointing to the BNP and Geert Wilder’s Freedom Party in the tiny Netherlands as faith-bolstering “Signs” of an eventual turnaround in white thinking and behavior.
Below are a handful of Signs from the American past:
Charles Lindbergh & America First.
Strom Thurmond & the States Rights Democratic Party
O.E. Faubus & the States Rights Party
G.C. Wallace & the American Independent Party
American and European race conservatives are truly pathetic.
So yeah, call me a “despairing” loser. Pot, Kettle, Black.
No Mxp, we’ll just call you a troll using the same, worn out script we’ve seen a thousand times.
Don’t let facts stand in the way of faith, BMX.
In 1948 the Dixiecrat’s Thurmond won 1.17 million votes and 39 electoral votes. In 1968 the AIP’s Wallace/LeMay ticket took 13.5% of the popular vote. In the popular vote recent gains for the BNP are little better than the AIP’s Schmitz/Anderson ticket in 1972. Schmitz received 1.1 million votes. Judging by popular and electoral votes in the U.S. the prospect of White resurgence was greater in 1968 than at any time since.
Wallace’s ideas concerning race “evolved” in his old age. Thurmond and Schmitz’ daughter screwed underage Negroes.
To spiritualists looking for Signs of white resurgence I ask, “Where is Jorg Haider? Where is Pim Fortuyn?”
Dutchland’s Pim Fortuyn is a dead homosexual. The Austrian playboy Jorge Haider is just plain dead.
Mxp,
And Le Pen? Not President, but hey, the old geezer did okay. Besides, so what if there aren’t any victory parades right now? Regardless of whether American and European race conservatives are pathetic or not the fact is that the popular political discourse is being shifted away from the left and towards the right – e.g. the Overton window is changing.
Angry Jew, I do not believe Foxman represents all Jews, but he portrays himself that way. And he uses the butter and egg money he extorts from primarily traumatized, elderly Holocaust-era Jews. I wish they’d save their money, because I would hate to see a SHTF scenario and a bunch of innocent folks are murdered because of Abe can’t stop throwing his weight around Gentiles and lives to annoy them. You know HE will be utilizing the big golden parachute they have financed with their donations and will have bailed out to a life of luxury and ease somewhere.
I leave it to Jews like you to discipline their own, but I respectfully suggest you do something about him. Find a way to shut him down. And whatever it takes to do it and fast. Because if there IS ever a red, white and blue pogrom, extortionists like Abe Foxman and Morris Dees and their protection rackets will be the chief architects.
Well Abe Foxman did it again. He along with Obamas and other Jewish lobby gropus has demanded that United Nations should dismiss its Special Envoy to Israel-Palestinian territories, Richard Falk, for posting ‘anti-Semitic’ cartoon.
The cartoon, depicted a dog wearing a shirt labeled “USA” and a yarmulke marked with a Star of Zion devouring a human carcass. Lady Justice stands by blindfolded, holding the dog’s leash as it urinates on her feet.
Interestingly, Dr. Richard Falk (born 1930), who claims to have Jewish family background has been under attack by the Israel-Firsters and Jewish groups for being critical of Israel in his fact-finding reports to United Nations…..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/richard-falk-cartoon-and-the-lobby/
Abe Foxman is NOT a hypocrite. If one judge many of American leaders – they’re no different than Abe Foxman. In fact some of are even worse.
There are tens of thousands of wealthy Americans, both Jews and Christians, who are accepted citizen of both the US and Israel. Some of the famous ‘Israel-Firsters’ are – Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Norman Podhoretz, Victor Davis Hanson, the Rev. Franklin Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Rudy Giuliani, Douglas Feith, the Rev. Rod Parsley, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, and Rev. John Hagee, who support Jewish Lobby (AIPAC) whole-heartedly and cares about the US interests only so far as Washington is willing to provide immense, unending funding and the lives of young US service personnel to protect Zionist Israel.
Former US Secretary of States, Gen. Collin Powell told Washington Post editor, Karen DeYoung, that it was the JINSA crowed, in association with US Vice-president Dick Cheney – which not only controls the Pentagon but also pushed White House into Iraq War for the benefit of Israel. “JINSA is the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, a hawkish think tank that supported the Iraq war. Thomas Neumann, JINSA’s executive director, said he was not offended by Powell’s reference – but fears that Powell’s words could be used by anti-Semites in the future. Now, some Jewish groups fear public backlash after knowing this truth…..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/americas-fifth-column/