Self-Deception and Guruism among Jews

Life is really easy if you are in the business of refuting “anti-Semites.” Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal has a predictably vacuous column on the comments of Karel De Gucht–a topic previously discussed here. Mr. De Gucht stated, “Do not underestimate the Jewish lobby on Capitol Hill.” Stephens says that the comment dispenses with “the usual fine-grained, face-saving distinction about the difference between a ‘Jewish’ and an ‘Israel’ lobby.”

What makes it so easy for Stephens is that he doesn’t have to actually provide any data showing the relationship between Jews and the Israel Lobby. It’s enough to simply say that De Gucht failed to make the distinction to brand him an anti-Semite. Of course, it wouldn’t have mattered if he referred to the Israel Lobby when talking about “the grip [the Lobby] has on American politics—no matter whether it’s Republicans or Democrats.”  That too would doubtless cast him as an anti-Semite. Titling their book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy certainly didn’t prevent them from being labeled anti-Semites.

Stephens uses the same tactic in dismissing De Gucht’s statement that “There is indeed a belief—it’s difficult to describe it otherwise—among most Jews that they are right. And it’s not so much whether these are religious Jews or not. Lay Jews also share the same belief that they are right. So it is not easy to have, even with moderate Jews, a rational discussion about what is actually happening in the Middle East.”

Stephens comments:

Here, then, was a case not of “criticism of Israel” or “anti-Zionism,” the usual sheets under which this sort of mentality hides. Mr. De Gucht’s target was Jews, the objects of his opprobrium their malign political influence and crippled mental reflexes. If this isn’t anti-Semitism, the term has no meaning.

Again, Stephens feels no need to actually discuss whether Jews tend to behave this way. The subject is out of bounds–automatically nothing more than “anti-Semitism.”

Since Mr. De Gucht will not attempt to defend his comments (he has already profusely apologized for his indiscretion—rejected, of course, by Stephens), I’ll give it a try. Part of the issue is self-deception, as per my previous comments on De Gucht. We are all prone to self-serving biases. But in particular, people who are highly ethnocentric are prone to not seeing how their own ethnocentrism blinds them to rational discussion of anything related to their ethnic interests. One of the more laughable mainstays of neoconservative rhetoric is the assertion that, despite their easily-documented strong Jewish identification and their close ties to Israel, they really believe that their policy recommendations are in the interests of the United States—including the disastrous war in Iraq and the impending war with Iran. Anyone who has taken a course in Social Psychology 101 would be aware of how naive that is. But of course, that doesn’t prevent it from being asserted with absolute self-confidence by writers like Jacob Heilbrunn (see here, p. 16).

The title of Heilbrunn’s book is relevant to De Gucht’s comments: They Knew They Were Right. The other part of this syndrome is absolute confidence in their ideas–what one  might term ‘guruism’. Heilbrunn calls attention to the neocons’ penchant for “sweeping assertions and grandiose ideas” (p. 26). There is a towering self-confidence that is doubtless exaggerated by being within an echo chamber of like-minded others. I remember talking to an academic psychiatrist long before psychoanalysis became a chapter in Culture of Critique. As a biologically oriented psychiatrist, he was not a believer in psychoanalysis, but he said what struck him about psychoanalysts in their heyday was their absolute self-confidence and sense of superiority. They were completely immune to empirically-minded naysayers–of which there were plenty, even at the height of their power. Keep in mind that psychoanalysis is perhaps the greatest intellectual fraud of the 20th century–a set of beliefs that explained everything but had only the most tenuous connection to reality and an ideology that empirical research was for bean counters.

The same thought crossed my mind while reading Thirteen Bankers, by Simon Johnson and James Kwak. Near the heart of the financial meltdown was the towering self-confidence of Larry Summers, Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan in opposing any regulation on the derivatives market. Summers seems to be pivotal. When Brooksley Born, head of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, proposed that some thought should be given to regulation,  Summers reportedly said “I have thirteen bankers in my office, and they say if you go forward with this you will cause the worst financial crisis since World War II.” As Johnson and Kwak note (p. 9), we don’t actually know if there were any bankers in Summers’ office; “more likely he came to his own conclusion.” The point is that Summers had an unshakable faith that what he was saying was correct–a faith that was ominously unrelated to empirical reality. Nevertheless, Ms. Born was successfully pushed aside and ultimately a law was enacted  preventing any regulation of the derivatives market. It’s quite analogous to Freud’s total confidence in the Oedipal Complex as a core doctrine of psychoanalysis and expelling anyone who disagrees.

Self-deception is not the entire story here. More likely, it relates to the centrality of charismatic leadership among Jews–a theme of Culture of Critique and very apparent in the Bernie Madoff scandal: The rabbi guru surrounded by worshipful disciples. Madoff was “like a God” People around him regarded Bernie like a messiah. He was spoken of as if godlike.” “He was received like visiting royalty, mysterious and unapproachable(see John Graham and Kevin MacDonald, “Is the Madoff Scandal Paradigmatic?”) He was brilliant; a genius. Because of his financial wisdom, everything turned to gold. Naysayers were ignored, and Jewish naysayers were labeled anti-Semites for not believing in the wisdom of Bernie.

Of course, Madoff exploited this tendency toward hero worship  among Jews to his own advantage and defrauded others in the process. In the case of the imperial wars so confidently trumpeted by the neocons and in the case of the financial meltdown, the victims are the entire country. And the scary thing is that Summers is still running the economy.

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67 Comments to "Self-Deception and Guruism among Jews"

  1. October 2, 2010 - 5:11 am | Permalink

    I cannot understand the mystery of the jew as not being settled.It is simple they are suffering from a persecution complex,and Talmud and deceit.

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    The Committee of 300 and the Black nobility are gentile and jew intermarried with same elite controlling through the Round Table.

    It is divide and conquer of whites through multiculturalism and massive immigration.Sweden example.Israel leader has stated jews will rule
    the world.Are the elite mixed gentile and jew.Do the elite care.If Iran war and Israel blown up does not exist who benefits???

    The Committee of 300 Conspiracy-John Coleman gives the answers as Leo Zagami does in “Leo Zagami in the 2012 Armageddon”You Tube.

    The gentiles are stupid and moron and they have sat on their asses and have been destroyed by false propaganda of jews and the Holocaust .Supported by gentile elite,and the universities.

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    the closet as they support the New World Order controlled by the elite I have mentioned in references.

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  2. October 1, 2010 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Oh, that above was me. Didn’t mean to be “anonymous.”

  3. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    September 30, 2010 - 10:50 pm | Permalink

    “…who send every last nickel to televangelists, only instead of being raped by charlatan Christians, they enjoy getting raped by charlatan Jews.

    This is a very broad-brushed smear on Christian evangelists, many of who are very sincere, and many of whom give great spiritual benefit to their followers through the principles of bhakti-yoga and devotion (which have always been fundamentally inherent in the Christian religion. Try it. It gives you a spiritual life.) Being Christian doesn’t make you a “rapist” or a “charlatan. Being a teacher or evangelist, moreover, doesn’t make you those things. And neither does being on the T.V. suddenly make you any of those things. Completely ridiculous to compare all Christian teachers to Jews, just because they use television as a means of outreach.

  4. September 21, 2010 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    As an aside, here is how our Senate Gurus just voted on cloture; “Yes” = legalization of millions of “student” illegals + legalization of homosexual networking in the military (both are elements of the anti-white race-
    replacement racket):

    non Jews: Yes:43 No:43
    Jews: Yes:13 No: 0

    This appears to be a non-random distribution.

  5. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    September 20, 2010 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    The original article, “Self-Deception and Guruism among Jews”, engaged me from its introduction and the comments it has generated have ended up making it even better. Some hiccups to be sure, but on the whole, this thread has been a masterful exercise in brainstorming.

    Thanks to those of you who shared your ideas. You forced me to think in ways I could never have managed on my own.

    There is a family being formed here and if I sometimes don’t like the attitudes of some of my “cousins” I still have to admit that at a base level – we are still a family – a collective in search of an alternative future to our pre-scripted eradication.

  6. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 18, 2010 - 10:42 am | Permalink

    The term “Anti-semite” is like a knife that’s used as a screwdriver or a pry bar: it’s cutting edge gets dulled from overuse and misuse.

    My personal view is let the jews keep misusing the term. Soon it’ll mean little more than “old fogey” or “young punk.”

    Then, in a few generations, our great grandchildren can tell their great grandchildren the old fable about “The Boy who cried Anti-Semite.”

  7. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    September 18, 2010 - 6:06 am | Permalink

    @Michael Santomauro:

    I guess you didn’t get the update.

    Anti-semite USED to mean someone who hates Jews, now it means someone whom Jews hate.

    Oliver Stone, Jimmy Carter and Adolf Hitler are now all anti-semites.

  8. September 17, 2010 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Being happy–is it good for the Jews?

    “Before Professor Dershowitz accused me of being an anti-Semite (news to me), I was a happy person. Since then, I’m still a happy person”. –Michael Santomauro

    See LINK above on my name for the Dershowitz article against ReportersNotebook.com.

    An antisemite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an antisemite.–Michael Santomauro

    Peace.

    ReporterNotebook@gmail.com
    917-974-6367

  9. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    September 17, 2010 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Chris Moore wrote: “Unfortunately for organized Jewry, the Chinese government is apparently already wise to their ways and is preparing the ground for their treachery:”

    ———————————————————————————–

    And the smartest among us knows who it was that lied us into these disastrous wars in the Middle East, profited from the offshoring of the American economy, i.e. “free” trade, and profited from the shi__y little escapades that began under Bill Clinton and culminated with with Wall Street meltdown two years ago.

    Just as in the old communist bloc, we know we can’t just speak the truth among the general public unless we’re willing to have our lives ruined.

  10. Darren's Gravatar Darren
    September 17, 2010 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Well if the Jews are unable to make inroads into China, don’t be surprised to see them demonizing China and trying to get our military involved against them. You already see some of this with the neocons. Though at this point they still seem to be “testing the waters” so to speak. If China becomes a power that is hostile to or simply neutral to Jewish interests and/or allies significantly with the Muslim world, there’s a good chance our military, NATO, perhaps India, and others will be pulled by the Jews into a global military conflict against China.

  11. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    September 17, 2010 - 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Jim wrote: “Just to clarify, the quote from my last post was from the JPPPI paper: “China and the Jewish People – old civilizations in a new era” authored by Dr. Shalom Wald (jew).”

    ———————————————————————————-

    How prentious of Dr. Wald. Here’s hoping the Chicoms are now derisively laughting through their cups of tea.

    The Chinese are indeed an old civilization. The Jews are NOT. The pedigree of their ancestors (or the people, more precisely, whom they claim as their ancestors) can only be traced back to about 1,200 BC in Egypt.

    (They were probably Egyptians who lost in Akhnetan’s war with the Egyptian priestly class when he tried to impose his new monotheistic religion and who finally escaped their former homeland.)

  12. September 17, 2010 - 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately for organized Jewry, the Chinese government is apparently already wise to their ways and is preparing the ground for their treachery:
    ————————-
    Anti-Semitism makes it to China?
    Book alleging Jews run the world and control global wealth becomes bestseller in country
    (YNet) –BEIJING – Who’s to blame for the current global financial crisis? According to a bestselling book in China, which is leading the sales charts in the country, the answer is clear: The Jews.

    In the eyes of most Chinese, Jewish people are considered “smart,” “rich” and “good at making money.” Bookstores in China offer a variety of self-help books titled, “How to make money like Jews,” and “The secret of Jews’ global success.”

    Until recently, the notion that Jews and money were inseparable carried no anti-Semitic undertone in the country, but a relatively new book called “Currency Wars” threatens to change all that.

    The book’s author, Song Hongbing, claims that behind world-changing events like the battle of Waterloo, Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, President Kennedy’s assassination, and the deep recession in Asia during the 1990s stood an intricate conspiracy aimed at increasing Jews’ wealth and influence.

    Song, a Chinese computer engineer and history buff who resides in the United States, writes that almost every defining historical moment has been instigated by Jewish bankers, and mainly the Rothschild family, which Song says dominates the global banking system, including the US Federal Reserve System…

    ‘important publication’ or ‘nonsense’?
    Song’s book was published in China about a year and-a-half ago, and initially sold an insignificant number of copies. But in recent months the global crisis has turned the book into a hit. Estimates put sales of “Currency War” well over a million, not including hundreds of thousands of illegal copies that can also be downloaded off the net.

    Song’s publishers, a subsidiary of a state-owned publishing house, boast the fact that the book has been read by all leading financial executives in the country, as well as state leaders.

    Song himself has become a local celebrity in China, and is often invited to lecture at financial conventions and is interviewed on TV as a famous financial analyst.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3675560,00.html
    ————————-
    This is how the Internet is cutting into organized Jewish rackets. People the world over are being warned ahead of time on a mass scale of their chicanery, corruption, market rigging, manipulations, etc, so when the carnival finally arrives in town, the only people getting scammed are those who want to be — like the idiot Christian Zionists and Judeophile liberals in the West who aren’t unlike trailer trash who send every last nickel to televangelists, only instead of being raped by charlatan Christians, they enjoy getting raped by charlatan Jews.

    In the Age of the Internet, there are simply no more excuses for those who get taken in by Zionists and their political stooges. Either they are stupid, corrupt themselves, or have a mentally ill, self-destructive desire to be swindled and impoverished.

  13. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 17, 2010 - 2:39 pm | Permalink

    I meant to say “…THEY aren’t bound…” etc. (sorry)

  14. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    September 17, 2010 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    You aren’t kidding about that. Ever dealt with a Chinese? They’re very self-interested and aggressive negotiators. In fact, they can be positively infuriating.

    I bought a vehicle from a Chinese immigrant several years ago. The initial price of sale kept on inching skyward before I was able to take delivery. “You want truck?” the little devil kept mouthing into the phone in broken, nearly incomprehensible Pidgin English. “Then more money!” It was impossible to explain to him that this is not an ethical way to conduct business; he seemed to have remorse, no concept of business ethics, and a cast-iron resistance to forming one (in fact, he had a way of laughing rather unpleasantly at the very thought). I was inevitably reminded of my dealings with Jews, the masters of commercial obstinacy, better-dealing, and post-sale price creep.

    In my opinion, the Jews are going to be crushed if they try to out-Chinese the Chinamen on their own turf. Jewish arrogance is a prescription for sorrow in this context. And no, the “Holocaust” will never fly in China as a basis for sympathy or special treatment. The Chinese were never known for their compassion – that’s not really in their emotional repertoire – and guilt is not their strong suit either. They’ll tell Abe and Alan to file any suggested concerns for the unfortunate “6 million” up their well-padded patooties, chop-chop! (Of course, the Jews will still have personal bribery and blackmail to fall back on, but that may not be quite as easy or effective over there.)

    By the way, check out the links provided by kirk in the thread following this one – they lead to writings by an academic Jew or Jewish sycophant named Jack Goldstone. It seems that the Jews are already rewriting the past in preparation for migrating to a new and happy home in Asia, enthusiastically running Whites, White society, and White history into the mud by way of endearing themselves to the new Asian host population they’ve targeted. (The gist: “What, White Christian Goyim our ‘friends’? Not on your life! We hate those scum! You wonderful little Chinese people are our new best friends now!” It feels a bit like a parting ball of Jewish spit for us to contemplate as we trudge off to the poorhouse.)

    If that’s actually what’s going down, then good riddance to them. I can’t wait to see the Kosher Nostra scattering into the rice paddies. Anything to get them the hell out of here, preferably with high-contrast “No Returns Accepted!” stickers on their beaks.

  15. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 17, 2010 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Just to clarify, the quote from my last post was from the JPPPI paper: “China and the Jewish People – old civilizations in a new era” authored by Dr. Shalom Wald (jew).

    ———————————

    Felix, I have to agree. I believe the jews will have met their match in the Chinese. China’s not the open and tolerant culture of the west, aren’t bound or motivated by the idea of “fairness”, and aren’t saddled with derivative guilt by association with a alleged anti-semetic past.

  16. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    September 17, 2010 - 1:25 pm | Permalink

    So they believe “Holocaust” movies in China are going to be an effective tool of propaganda? Those people are nuts. Watch for The Chinese to out-jew the Jews.

    The Chinese lost tens of millions of people in the last century alone and, unlike the Jews who never miss an oppurtunity to self-righteously play the perrenial victime, hardly batted an eye. Does anyone think they’re going to give a damn about the “suffering” of a mere six million?

    While Jewish “choseness” is predicated on being as numberless as the stars in heaven, (they’re not, have never been, nor ever will be), the Chinese, with over a billion people, really are, and have a civilization with an archaelogical record that extends back as far as 4,000 B.C. The Jews, on the other hand, despite their claim to a pedigree going back as far, can only reliably trace their cultural provenance to around 1,200 B.C. In short any stories about MYTHIC ancestors are just that: stories.

    The Chinese are also as suspicious of outsiders as the Jews and just like them don’t blanch at being duplicitous and taking advantage of people they regard as inferiors.

    IOW, if there really were a “chosen” people (and there isn’t), it’s the Chinese.

  17. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 17, 2010 - 11:59 am | Permalink

    Matthias, your link and Sailer’s article are dynamite, leading to the powder keg of Shalom Wald’s JPPPI paper. JUST LISTEN TO THIS EXCERPT:

    “China presents a unique situation, unknown
    in any other important country that is not hostile
    to Jews. The absence of accepted, indigenous
    Jewish communities that could represent the
    Jewish people and create a counter-weight to its
    opponents, as they do in the Americas, Europe,
    Russia, South Africa, and Australia, leaves a
    void. The Chinese, including Chinese Moslems
    and Christians, are FREE TO STATE THIER VIEWS —
    and if they wish, their CRITICISM — of Judaism,
    while no official Jewish voice is able to reply. [my emph. - jim]
    For example, some Chinese Moslems see themselves
    as representatives of the world of Islam,
    not only of Chinese Islam. They can successfully
    protest against scholarly publications if these
    contain theses on the relations between Islam

    and Judaism that are not condoned by Moslem
    clerical authorities (Chapter 7.2). China’s FOREIGN
    Jews cannot reply, lest they be suspected of
    contravening Chinese laws, which prohibit religious
    propaganda by foreigners.” [my emph. - jim]

    ———————

    The article goes on to suggest strategies to circumvent Chinese laws.

    I had to read this section again because I was in disbelief. The jews aren’t even there yet, there isn’t even any anti-semitism in China yet (by their own admission), and they’re ALREADY figuring out how to manipulate the Chinese legal system to discourage (via shout down opposition) free expression …free expression by the CHINESE in CHINA, for God’s sake!!!!! Don’t you think the Chinese Gov.t would be insulted by this statement?

    Also, they’ve openly acknowledged their tactics here in the US., which, to be sure, have been most effective. To feel so confident in your elite status that you believe you can post something this underhanded on the internet for everyone to read certainly verifies that we’re in a whole new era of jewish domination.

  18. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 17, 2010 - 11:50 am | Permalink

    Felix: “The Western tradition, THE GRAECO-ROMAN tradition, was born in Athens. It is expansive, proposes the inherent equality of all, and holds that truth is knowable by all and can be emprically tested.”

    Yes, but disastrously for Whites, this “inherent equality of all” obsession of theirs runs counter to reality. Because reality is radically inegalitarian in structure, equality as a goal would seem impossible to achieve; but they appear ready to die as a race rather than give up trying. In fact, even if, by some trick of technology, they manage to achieve it, they would still die as a race. Creating a world where racial difference has been eliminated or reduced to only a difference in skin color would effectively mean the end of race. It would become a distinction of no practical significance; an obsolete biological category.

  19. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    September 17, 2010 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    Always remember that Judaism is NOT part of the western tradition. Never has been. Never will be. IT is from Jerusalem, is tribal, relies on “divine” revelation for its legitimacy, believes in the superiority of the “chosen” and that the profoundest of truth is only available to them.

    The Western tradition, THE GRAECO-ROMAN tradition, was born in Athens. It is expansive, proposes the inherent equality of all, and holds that truth is knowable by all and can be emprically tested.

    Without recognizing the unbridgeable chasm that lies between these two traditions, it is impossible to adequately comprehend the inability of the neo-cons and the Israeil lobby to see the path of destruction upon which they’ve launched the United States and the Middle East.

  20. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 17, 2010 - 12:59 am | Permalink

    Wait until the educated Chinese find out that the Jew David Sassoon was responsible for the Opium Wars. hehe

  21. Matthias's Gravatar Matthias
    September 16, 2010 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Funny how establishment jews like Summers publicly say the US’ future is just peachy, no worries mate, but as soon as the camera shuts off the jewish huddle begins to make arrangements for the next Exodus (from the Sailer article again):

    The JPPPI makes numerous policy recommendations in 2030. For instance, it’s important to have a Plan B:

    “The United States will likely continue to be the most powerful state for at least the first part of the 21st century but its relative power will diminish. …

    “The rise of Asian states, particularly China and India, may be very significant from a Jewish perspective since Asian countries do not share the Biblical religions and traditions, and therefore, have a radically different view of Judaism and the Jewish People than Christian and Islamic countries. Also, they do not have significant Jewish communities. This provides unprecedented opportunities for a Jewish global grand-strategy, as proposed in a JPPPI paper on upgrading relations between the Jewish People and China.”

    In case you are wondering whom the JPPPI sees as coming out ahead in the second part of the 21st century, it has prioritized its position papers on “Enhancing the Standing of Jewish People in Emerging Superpowers without Biblical Traditions” as China first, then India, and Japan at a later date. ”

    Highly recommended you check out Plan B:

    Enhancing the Standing of the Jewish People in Emerging Superpowers without Biblical Tradition
    Project Head: Dr. Shalom Solomon Wald.

    This project aims at enhancing the standing of the Jewish people in emerging superpowers like China, and India. The first initiative focuses on China, under the assumption that a wide door of opportunity for developing and strengthening positive relations exists. Historically these countries have been free of anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist prejudices and shared interests may become increasingly important in the 21st century. The project’s objective is to help create a long-term cultural foundation for understanding and cooperation. It will identify opportunities for furthering mutual knowledge of the cultures and national heritage of the Jewish people and the peoples of the respective countries. The next initiative will focus on India, and Japan will be considered at a later date. A major strategic paper on relations between the Jewish people and China has been published, including a set of operational proposals which are in part being implemented by relevant Jewish organizations.

    http://www.jpppi.org.il/JPPPI/Templates/showpage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=84&FID=346

    Let’s foil their plans, shall we?

  22. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    September 16, 2010 - 11:37 pm | Permalink

    “The system preferentially rewards those who have no other loyalty than to money, and ultimately eliminates the rest.”

    If greater Jewish ethnic nepotism is an essential part to their superior economic success, which it is, were they to abandon said because they had “no other loyalty than to money”, they would no longer be superior economic competitors. Jews would face increasing displacement by high IQ and nepotistic East and South Asians. Funny how the picture comes into better focus when important factors are not intentionally omitted, isn’t it?

  23. Matthias's Gravatar Matthias
    September 16, 2010 - 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Jim says:

    “I read that China, a country of over 1.3 billion people, has only 3000 jews living there. Can you imagine that? How will the jews get their fingers in that pie, outside of import retail on the US side? Could China signal the end of jewish world domination economically?”

    Jews are making a frantic world-wide concerted effort to get into that pie. Jews are preparing to flee the soon to be exhausted husk of their spent US host for new ones, notably China, Japan, and India. The US expiry date, according to jews? 2030. Steve Sailer drew attention to this in his piece here: http://www.vdare.com/sailer/100712_demography.htm

    Some excerpts:

    “This report is written by the staff of the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute, a thinktank devoted to maximizing the long-term welfare of “the Jewish People” (which, by the way, it always capitalizes in its publications). An intellectually serious effort, 2030 can serve as a template for anybody thinking about improving the demographic prospects of their own peoples or parties.”

    “Jewish-American heavyweights who participated in brainstorming sessions for this book included: Lawrence Summers (the Obama Administration’s top economic advisor); Elliott Abrams (Bush’s main man on the Middle East); Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post and FoxNews); Abe Foxman (Anti-Defamation League); and Alan Dershowitz (the O.J. Simpson Dream Team).

    Despite this American participation, the JPPPI is an offshoot of the Israeli government’s immigration arm, the Jewish Agency for Israel. (The JPPPI’s #2 man is a former boss of Israeli military intelligence). It makes an annual presentation to the Israeli cabinet. And, because the JPPPI’s publications are not intended for non-Jewish audiences—this book has not, so far as I know, previously been reviewed in America outside the Jewish press—it suffers less from the timidity that emasculates intellectual discourse in America.

    For example, the JPPPI’s 2030 observes:

    “World Jewry today is at a historical zenith of absolute wealth creation. …

    “There are no data comparing Jewish and non-Jewish levels of accumulated wealth. One can base the predictions only on non-scientific analysis such as the prominence of Jews among: Nobel laureates, lists of rich people and the ‘Russian oligarchs,’ leaders of financial institutions, entertainment, hi-tech industries, and political representatives.” [Links added]

    2030 continues:

    “Based on these observations, one can say that Jewish wealth is higher than almost any other ethnic group worldwide.”

    “Barring a financial catastrophe that would impoverish large numbers of Jews, given Jewish professional selection, levels of education and global mobility these trends are likely to continue in the next 20 years.”

    It’s also informative to discover that the JPPPI views anti-Semitism at present “as a moral problem and an irritant, but not having any serious consequences”.”

    If you link to the JPPPI report, you’ll see how jews see the key to infesting China. The main strategies are, and I kid you not:

    1. Flood China with Holocaust movies. They believe rightly or wrongly that the Chinese can’t get enough of ‘em.

    2. Exploit the common Chinese notion that the Chinese are envious of jewish wealth, and allowing them to come to China will make them rich.

    The link to the JPPPI stuff is in Sailer’s article. I can’t believe Kmac chose not to comment on it. Highly recommended. Jim, they’ve laid their cards on the table on this one.

    States kaput by 2030. Hebrews, to China!

  24. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 16, 2010 - 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Jim: “Capitalism seemed to work fine for centuries in the America when in balance or equilibrium with other cultural forces or values. Take away or diminish or change those cultural forces or values, and capitalism can get ugly real quick.”

    Yes, agreed. But since capitalism itself, by constantly giving its greatest rewards to those most willing to do anything for money, encourages abandonment of those other values and weakens those other forces, the problem is systemic. In other words, either you value money more than anything else in life or you don’t. Those who don’t just don’t make as good capitalists as those who do. The system preferentially rewards those who have no other loyalty than to money, and ultimately eliminates the rest.

  25. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 16, 2010 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Jim: “To reiterate, I know nothing about McDonalds, even less about Ray Kroc, and never even heard of Harry Sonnenborne (spelling seems to vary) until 3 hours ago, but my suspicions were correct – whenever a business venture is that successful, there has to be substantial jewish influence.”

    Has to be? I wouldn’t go that far. What about Wal-mart? Or your example of Wards? There’s nothing particularly jewy about the idea Sonneborne came up with. Like many successful ideas, in retrospect it seems obvious. A non-Jew could certainly have thought of it. Kroc could even have thought of it himself, and probably kicked himself for not doing so. It may even be true that a non-Jew did think of it, since the article says Sonneborne was previously VP at Tastee Freez, another franchise operation similar to MacDonalds. It’s possible he did nothing but port the idea over from his previous employer. In any case, what’s interesting to me is that Sonneborne bailed out in 1967, before the franchise really went big, and walked away with a paltry 3 million, as opposed to the 1 billion he would have got had he stayed in. Some financial genius!

  26. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel:

    I neglected to mention in my previous post that, in general terms, I agree with you on the destructive nature of materialism/consumerism in America. The sign out in front of McDonalds SHOULD read:
    “Over One Billion Dupes Served!”

    To me, the problem with alternatives to capitalism isn’t so much the lack of effective rewards for success, but the lack of effective penalties for failure. Capitalism rewards and penalizes with either dollars or lack of dollars. What else can you take away from someone who fails? One of their children?

    Capitalism seemed to work fine for centuries in the America when in balance or equilibrium with other cultural forces or values. Take away or diminish or change those cultural forces or values, and capitalism can get ugly real quick.

  27. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Der weiße Engel:

    To reiterate, I know nothing about McDonalds, even less about Ray Kroc, and never even heard of Harry Sonnenborne (spelling seems to vary) until 3 hours ago, but my suspicions were correct – whenever a business venture is that successful, there has to be substantial jewish influence. I did see something about him being a so so executive, either CEO or COO, so he obviously wasn’t without his flaws. You’re wiki link said ” He ultimately made up for his underestimation of McDonald’s future under Kroc…” but didn’t elaborate. He was a philanthropist, so apparently he died quite wealthy.

    I looked up my Sears example on a whim as well, since it was one of the most successful retail enterprises in history, and again found substantial jewish influence. I must admit, though, Montgomery Wards, Sears main competitor, didn’t seem to have significant jewish power behind it.

    Obviously, Henry Ford, the world’s richest man 90 years ago, didn’t either. I wish I’d see some pieces about Henry Ford on TOO’s blogs. ( I saw none listed in the archive section.) I consider him one of the five greatest Americans of all time (even if he did draw a lot of blacks into the Detroit area, effectively destroying it.)

  28. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    September 16, 2010 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    @ Jim

    Your computerwhiz brother is right. Gates’ dad was/is a high powered & connected West Coast corporate attorney.

    Do you think you could have gotten away with overlaying the IBM dos operating system with icons and calling it windows? Not without a legal battle, unless, your dad was a high powered & connected corporate attorney.

  29. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 16, 2010 - 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Jim: “It was jewish real estate wizard Harry Sonnenborne who made Ray all of his money by going in with him to buy the land that the restaurants would be built on, then renting it to new store owners. ”

    He apparently came up with a brilliant business model, but didn’t exactly go in with in Kroc in the sense of bankrolling him or make him all of his money. Read this and then see what you think of this Jewish “financial genius”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Sonneborn

    It’s not surprising that Jews, one the most materialistic of all races, should be well-adapted to the financial system called capitalism. Nor does it surprise me that the capitalist West is now the most materialistic of all cultures, and that its elites should be rife with Jews. The collision of the logic of capitalism with human nature made that inevitable. Capitalism constantly rewards those who will do anything for money with more power, which enables them to make even more money, in what is seemingly an endless feedback loop. This is the economic root of the current crisis of the West. But what is to be done? In a way, it’s unfortunate that an alternative to capitalism hasn’t been found. On the other hand, the only conceivable way that an alternative system would stand a chance of being voluntarily adopted, given human nature, is if it could promise an even GREATER efficiency at delivering material goods. It’s clear that no one would be interested in adopting a system, however virtuous and spiritual, that they knew in advance would only make them poorer. Certainly this must be because competition between societies rewards richer societies with more power and ever greater control over resources, and societies that lose out on this economic competition become dominated. They get overrun without a shot being fired. So it would also seem that, in some sense, human societies are compelled to be materialistic, and the more materialistic the better. In this way a trend toward decadence is also built in.

  30. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 4:37 pm | Permalink

    “And what about Ray Kroc, founder of MacDonald’s?”

    The interesting thing is, knowing absolutely NOTHING about McDonalds, and even less about Ray Kroc, I still figured there had to be a jew behind the enormous success of McDonalds, so I did an internet search after reading your comment. Lo and behold, I was right. Kroc made NO money selling McDonalds franchises after he bought the rights from the McDonald Bros. in the early 60′s.

    It was jewish real estate wizard Harry Sonnenborne who made Ray all of his money by going in with him to buy the land that the restaurants would be built on, then renting it to new store owners.

    http://www.youngentrepreneur.com/blog/uncategorized-blog/modeling-masters-ray-kroc-mcdonalds/

    My computer whiz brother in law maintains it was lawyers who made Microsoft’s money with licensing fee agreements rather than technology per se, but I know even less about computers than burgers, so anyone who’s interested can research that one themselves.

    Sears and Roebuck weren’t jewish, but by 1895, half of the company was owned by 2 jews who then assumed control when Sears died in 1908.

    eurodele said: “People trying desperately to make ends meet often don’t have the money to buy American. ”

    I agree (even though “trying desperately to make ends meet” sometimes means having to pay off both your Jet-Ski and big screen tv at the same time.)

    But you make a good point, and it brings up Wal-Mart and China, the country that supplies most of it’s products (though wal-mart still carries more US products than most other dept. stores.)

    I read that China, a country of over 1.3 billion people, has only 3000 jews living there. Can you imagine that? How will the jews get their fingers in that pie, outside of import retail on the US side? Could China signal the end of jewish world domination economically?

  31. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 16, 2010 - 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Jim: “Jews who destroy their smaller competitors on a low price basis also destroy competition in areas other than price (customer service, community commitment, personal integrity, etc.)…areas that are less tangible at point of sale for an “I want it now” culture.”

    Of course, the most notorious example of this is Wal-mart, the creation of the non-Jew Sam Walton. Bill Gates and Microsoft is another example. And what about Ray Kroc, founder of MacDonald’s? How many family-owned restaurants were put out of business by him? In the big picture, the development of schlock culture and a race to the bottom seems an inevitable part of capitalism. Capitalism rewards best those who have the most materialistic values. Whatever non-materialistic values a culture may have going in are replaced as a side effect of implementing capitalism.

  32. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    September 16, 2010 - 11:21 am | Permalink

    Jim: “How many non-jews shop indiscriminately for the lowest price in town and end up buying from big jewish owned cut-rate stores that have the ‘lowest prices in town?’ To most Americans, the ‘cost’ of an item is whatever’s on the price tag. Unfortunately, it’s often so much more than that.”

    Right. Such are the fruits of unilateral economic non-protectionism, aka “free trade in the global marketplace”.

    People trying desperately to make ends meet often don’t have the money to buy American. Expecting them to do so at extra cost – even to the tune of pennies on the purchase – is unrealistic; they are only being rational in paying the lowest prices they can. This is why, in a better world in which the US government were not in the grip of the international financiers in charge of the “global economy”, foreign-made products would be priced to encourage a reasonable balance of trade.

    But there’s a flip side to this. As Americans grew increasingly self-entitled after WWII, American labor unions became greedy and intransigent. American goods were saddled with the ever-rising costs of an increasing number of fat pensions for retired assembly-line workers. “Working-class” families were soon living in large and relatively luxurious houses with two or three brand new vehicles parked in the driveway; little Johnny and Suzy were increasingly left in what amounted to government indoctrination camps and maleducation mills, their college educations assured even if they were two little party animals with the combined brainpower of a box of rocks.

    Arguably, the US labor movement was Jewish from Jump Street. But still, it’s up to White people themselves to move away from materialism and money-worship toward healthy non-materialistic values.

  33. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 10:38 am | Permalink

    Eurodele, I’ve heard that about Gates and I believe you are correct about Buffett, to a degree.

    What I’m talking about, however, is non-jewish complicity. How many non-jews shop indiscriminately for the lowest price in town and end up buying from big jewish owned cut-rate stores that have the “lowest prices in town?” To most Americans, the “cost” of an item is whatever’s on the price tag. Unfortunately, it’s often so much more than that. Jews who destroy their smaller competitors on a low price basis also destroy competition in areas other than price (customer service, community commitment, personal integrity, etc.)…areas that are less tangible at point of sale for an “I want it now” culture.

    Of course, I’ve segued from finance to retail, but retail is where jewish wealth got it’s start in America. BTW, Buffett has invested in just such cut-rate stores, some in his home town, one of the more famous being the Nebraska Furniture Mart, run by the notorious (and jewish) “Mrs. B” (now deceased.)

    Mrs. B was a great example of guruism: a very self serving, nasty, even hideous woman who raised a profoundly dysfunctional family, but who was, never-the-less, diefied as a wonderful person by millions the of non-thinking non-jews who had made her obscenely wealthy. (Her low low prices show how much she really cares about us!)

  34. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    September 16, 2010 - 10:25 am | Permalink

    “They’re not just full of loathing for Karel De Gucht for saying things they don’t want to hear. They’re full of loathing for Europeans.”

    …one of the more dismaying aspects of whom is the existence of many European or Eurogenic Judases who can be relied on to scream for the heads of people like De Gucht on a platter.

    Many of us have a very hard time dealing with the sheer plenitude of these outhouse rats. However, their existence at the top is ultimately explained by Jewish political selection: people don’t get to the level of importance at which they have a voice in such matters without having been chosen on their record of race-betrayal.

  35. September 16, 2010 - 10:13 am | Permalink

    Chris Moore makes a good point about Stephens’ title, “Europe Reverts to Type”, and the comments there reinforce it. The WSJ commentariat on this piece is just as jewish and leftist as can be generally found at the New York Times or Forward. The lachrymose version of jewish history amongst Europeans, and outright hostility toward Europeans, is on full display.

    They’re not just full of loathing for Karel De Gucht for saying things they don’t want to hear. They’re full of loathing for Europeans.

  36. September 16, 2010 - 9:59 am | Permalink

    …..What Captainchaos and Kirk said…

  37. September 16, 2010 - 9:38 am | Permalink

    Regarding the second half of the article, it seems that large elements of Jewish collective are highly prone towards bandwagoneering. Whether its Marxism, Zionism, or neo-conservatism/neo-liberalism, if enough Jews are “doing it,” then it’s the next big thing, and if you’re not in on it than you are a pathetic outlier who’s behind the times, “no question about it.”

    This is an incredibly dangerous mentality for any society’s elite to have, because the bandwagon may be going in one direction today, and the complete opposite direction the next day. In addition to Jewry, this ungrounded, unprincipled, schizophrenic mentality seems to have plagued the more Jewish-influenced elements of American society going back decades.

    These pathetic modern Goy elites following around Jewry like lost puppies are as ungrounded and nuts as the schizophrenic Jews themselves. No wonder America is such a mess today.

  38. eurodele's Gravatar eurodele
    September 16, 2010 - 9:32 am | Permalink

    “Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, like Madoff, have also been guru-fied by our warped culture.”

    I’ve read that Gates is a crypto-Jew – he certainly looks it – and that Buffett is a philosemitic sycophant who sold his soul to the Big J early in his career. In both cases, guru status would not have come about unless it had been deliberately passed through the mass-media microfiltration system of International Jewry, Inc., strongly suggesting the involvement of nepotism.

  39. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 9:17 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the link, Jane. Enlightening article.

    Guruism: it actually exists wherever there is money or wealth. This obviously includes jews, but is not limited to them. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, like Madoff, have also been guru-fied by our warped culture. Their ability to make money has been extrapolated into imaginary personal qualities beyond just the ability to make money. They seem to know or understand something about life that the rest of us don’t (or so we think.) People, the majority of them non-jewish, hang on to their every word and glorify them.

    Once again, non-jewish addiction to affluence and fascination with wealth enables jewish power. Hate to say it, but it’s obvious and true.

  40. September 16, 2010 - 9:14 am | Permalink

    @ ZOG: ‘Does anyone know if Bret Stephens is a Jew or not? I’m making a list of “Who Controls the News Media”…’

    As I recall, you also developed a list of Federal Reserve Jews, among others. Do you have these lists available somewhere on the Internet with the links you used to authenticate their Jewishness? It would be useful when, for example, it is alleged that the Federal Reserve is “Jewish run,” and someone says “Prove it.”

  41. kirk's Gravatar kirk
    September 16, 2010 - 9:09 am | Permalink

    I’m just recalling an old saying by some Jew: “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

    Which was the reason why his fellow jews couldn’t bear him, so they had him crucified.

  42. September 16, 2010 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    I was struck by its Stephens’ headline: Europe Reverts to Type/The EU’s response to anti-Semitism? “No comment.”

    How I read this is that Stephens believes Europe is reverting to its “anti-Semitic”, Christian type, and this trend should be arrested. I find it ironic in that even as these Jewish Zionists demand a clash of civilizations with Islam, they only want it on their terms, meaning it has to be the Jewish-engineered Judeo Christian Zionist/statist-liberal-Capitalist identity as the flag under which the West is clashing, and not an authentic Christian identity.

    Jewry is so smug and arrogant at this point that it doesn’t even bother hiding its contempt and hostility towards the West’s Christian heritage in favor this lobotomized, neo-American, Noahide equivalent. Zionist Jewry’s agenda reminds me a lot of Jeffrey Dahmer’s experiments of lobotomizing his victims in order to turn them into zombie sex slaves.

    These people have the minds of serial killers.

  43. Jane Sampson's Gravatar Jane Sampson
    September 16, 2010 - 8:23 am | Permalink

    “How do people like Stephens, David Brooks and Ezra Klein manage to start at the top with a national platform? Is this more jewish meritocracy?”

    “The whole history of American Jewry is a tribute to the power of Jewish nepotism. Indeed, nepotism has been a positive and wholesome force in Jewish life for thousands of years. It is high time to acknowledge and even celebrate this fact instead of trying to keep it hidden like a shameful family secret.”

    http://www.forward.com/articles/7806/

  44. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    September 16, 2010 - 7:54 am | Permalink

    Aaron said:
    “I’m sure nearly every post [on TOO blog] is prefaced with, ‘Dr. MacDonald’s theories could be wrong, but…’.”

    Since when are Jewish/Israel advocates concerned with the nuance or particulars or credibility or non-credibility of Jewish/Israel-critical articles, posts and comments? As far as the Jewish lobby is concerned, ALL are worthy of swastikas and armbands whether they come from Kevin MacDonald or Jimmy Carter or Dr. Walt or Adolf Hitler himself.

    So, is my opinion of the Jewish lobby also robbing the Jewish lobby of nuance in their criticism of criticism? Well, Alan Dershowitz said Jimmy Carter (that international symbol of hatred and intolerance) deserves a “special place ln hell” for his critique of Israel. Presumably it’s next to Hitler’s special place in hell. Doesn’t sound much like nuance to me.

  45. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    September 16, 2010 - 7:17 am | Permalink

    Summers and Rubin were the two main characters behind the destruction of the Glass Steagall Act that opened the door to our current financial crisis. Yet no one with any national platform will remind those two Jews of their responsibility for our ongoing economic problems.

    If you ever see Summers in person, you will see a fat little Jew of Philadelphia. He has a fat little Jew brother who is a Philadelphia Jew lawyer, and was head of the Philadelphia bar.

    The Summers brothers are the messiahs’ of Philadelphia area’s Jews. LOL.

    The Summer’s brothers are also related to the Jewish economist Paul Samuelson on their mother’s side of the tribe, or so I have been told.

    When Summer’s became Secretary of the Treasury in the last few months of the Clinton administration he was travelling with a taxpayer paid entourage that included a large security detail—to protect the self important little Jew.

    Now I see where Summer’s has finally come around to claiming we must do something to “help” American industry. When Jews start talking about “helping” I get concerned. Yeah, help themselves with a little “tikkun” or whatever the Hebrew word. LOL.

    Really, Summers and Rubin should be in jail with Bernie Madoff.

  46. Whites Unite's Gravatar Whites Unite
    September 16, 2010 - 6:23 am | Permalink

    Kevin MacDonald, and those of his ilk, repeat the old anti-semitic canard that Jews tend to use terms such as “ilk” and “canard” in their polemic writings.

  47. HA's Gravatar HA
    September 16, 2010 - 5:09 am | Permalink

    Wiki says Stephens started his career at the WSJ. I knew a white guy getting into journalism who said you needed to start at a local paper, go back to J-school, then go to a middle market and work your way up slowly. How do people like Stephens, David Brooks and Ezra Klein manage to start at the top with a national platform? Is this more jewish meritocracy?

  48. me's Gravatar me
    September 16, 2010 - 4:59 am | Permalink

    one has to wonder how do you ultimately ‘deal’ with such psychological intensity, self deceit, aggression and drive?
    Anglo-saxons tend to have forbearance, if some neurotic short guy is throwing a fit what do you do? if he violates the civic standards you know you should uphold what do you do?
    Jews keep taking advantage of this – consciously or unconsciously – until Anglo Saxons will have no other option but to react. They have proven they don’t want to play fair and they completely lack the introspection to consider their behavior.

  49. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    September 15, 2010 - 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Allow me to unpack the subtext of Engel’s message for you, Aaron: It is Engel’s contention that you had best, if you had one sensible bone in your hook-nosed body, speak forthrightly and with a will towards reaching a mutually agreeable accommodation between Jews and Whites consonant with White genetic continuity, with a man such as Dr. MacDonald. That is, in lieu of those who will come later, who no longer give a damn what it is you have to say for it was all lies, every last bit it, before. You know, the ones with the jackboots, and all that.

    Think on it.

  50. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    September 15, 2010 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

    That is:

    “Then why do you [Aaron] incessantly peddle your bullshit if you [don't] believe no-one will call you on it?”

    Your co-ethnics work towards the extermination of my race. And what do you do? Not attempt to restrain them in light of your realization of this outrage. No. You lecture us on the finer points of how we ought to succumb to your ham-fisted verbal judo. LOL!

  51. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 15, 2010 - 11:11 pm | Permalink

    Aaron: “Well, it’s a good thing there’s no charismatic leadership, exaggerated sense of being right, or self-deception going on at Occidental Observer. That stuff’s strictly for the Jews. Over here, it’s just empirical science! I’m sure nearly every post is prefaced with, “Dr. MacDonald’s theories could be wrong, but…”. I’m sure everyone here who’s read Dr. MacDonald’s work has also read the work of his academic critics and come to his own conclusion based on a critical reading of Dr. MacDonald’s and his critics’ published work.”

    I’ve read KMD’s work closely, and often have voiced disagreement with some elements of it in my comments here on this site. It says a lot about KMD’s scholarly commitment to the spirit of free inquiry that he allows such comments. A lesser man would censor them. Most of KMD’s critics, even the academic ones, do little more than try to blacken his reputation. I haven’t yet been impressed by even one of them.

  52. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Here’s Daniel Henninger on the left. He looks stereotypically Jewish:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XDLnpGlOHFU/SwaZIaxOnjI/AAAAAAAAEdI/MhS-Twf9dBQ/s1600/100_5982.JPG

  53. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Daniel Henninger has a German surname, and he is listed as a Jew on this site. So he’s Jewish too:

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Category:Jews

  54. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    September 15, 2010 - 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Aaron:

    “Over here, it’s just empirical science!”

    You consciously engage in obfuscation in nearly every comment you make on racialist boards for the furtherance of your ethnic interests; as does your co-ethnic Adumb. I’ve seen your work. Don’t attempt to deny it. And why? Because you are scared. Scared shitless. And so you should be, for as you well know, your beloved “people” could not help themselves if they tried. Just not in the genetic cards, I’m afraid.

    “I myself am free of the same kind of intellectual over-confidence and self-deception.”

    Then why do you incessantly peddle your bullshit if you believe no-one will call you on it?

  55. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    September 15, 2010 - 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald:

    “It’s always a tough call as to whether it’s deception or self-deception.”

    Norman Podhoretz, quoted at length in an article right here at TOO, wrote of his desire for the total amalgamation of White Americans and negroes. A fate he self-evidently would not commend to his own Jewish people. Denial of the clear fact that that man wishes our genetic extinguishment itself amounts to self-deception. I know full well that one must couch what one says in language not so truthfully abrasive and eschewing all euphemism that has the effect of scaring away the novitiate. Yet, there is, I think, a middle road between placing the existential issue front and center and clearly fleshing out the fact that Jewish elites want what is effectively our extermination so that they may rule over the remains of a genetically ruined goyim consistent with their millenarian aspirations.

    Der jewboy Engel:

    “Further, it isn’t anti-Semitism to say so, and the term “anti-Semitism” really does have no meaning beyond what Jews and their defenders want it to mean. It’s a one-size-fits-all straightjacket that can be stretched to fit anyone they consider dangerous, recalling Sobran’s bon mot that an anti-Semite used to be someone who hates Jews, but now it’s someone whom the Jews hate.”

    At some level, Adunce, you must know the truth of what you type. But as with the tone deaf, you recite the lyrics yet never quite get the tune. You filthy Jews never do quite get, do you? Expelled from every country in Europe, some more than once, and every time it was as big a shock as the last. LOL! If America turns against you (and why wouldn’t this nation also eventually, I mean, it has happened every time before), this time, there is no where left to run.

  56. Matthias's Gravatar Matthias
    September 15, 2010 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Z.O.G., you rock! Thanks!

  57. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Bret Stephens in all of his Heebish glory:

    http://www.camera.org/images_user/bretstephens.jpg

  58. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Oh, never mind. I just found out that Bret Stephens was the editor of the Jerusalem Post from 2002-2004. So obviously he’s a Kike.

    Between 2002 and 2004 he was editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post,a position he assumed at age 28 – the youngest person ever to hold that position.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Stephens

  59. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Wikipedia is a Jewish owned and Jewish edited website. It’s a waste of time to try to do anything on there.

  60. Aaron's Gravatar Aaron
    September 15, 2010 - 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s a good thing there’s no charismatic leadership, exaggerated sense of being right, or self-deception going on at Occidental Observer. That stuff’s strictly for the Jews. Over here, it’s just empirical science! I’m sure nearly every post is prefaced with, “Dr. MacDonald’s theories could be wrong, but…”. I’m sure everyone here who’s read Dr. MacDonald’s work has also read the work of his academic critics and come to his own conclusion based on a critical reading of Dr. MacDonald’s and his critics’ published work.

    I’m not defending neocons like Bret Stephens. Anyone can see that he’s a pro-Israel hack, and it’s not exactly a mystery how his being Jewish is connected with that. And of course I’m not suggesting that I myself am free of the same kind of intellectual over-confidence and self-deception. I’m just recalling an old saying by some Jew: “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

  61. Z.O.G.'s Gravatar Z.O.G.
    September 15, 2010 - 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone know if Bret Stephens is a Jew or not? I’m making a list of “Who Controls the News Media”, and Bret Stephens is in the Dow Jones & Company/Wall Street Journal section of the list:

    Paul A. Gigot – Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

    Daniel Henninger – Deputy Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

    Bret Stephens – Deputy Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

    James Freeman – Assistant Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

  62. September 15, 2010 - 9:38 pm | Permalink
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    The Authoritarian Personality was Jewish projection. Anyone who’s butted heads with Jews knows how supremely arrogant, dismissive, authoritarian, deceptive, and incurious they are when it comes to their cherished notions of themselves and the world. This is at the bottom of why I think it’s useless to pander to Jews; their minds are made up. And if, like the Arab, they one day find it impractical to be at our throat (as they are now), they’ll throw themselves at our feet, all the while dreaming about the day they’ll be able to go for the throat again.

    Chechar, the bad guys run Wikipedia. “Anyone can edit,” yes, and then the Wiki Cabal can come along and edit it back.

  64. admin's Gravatar admin
    September 15, 2010 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

    @Alfred: I agree. Certainly a lot of what neocons and other activist Jews is conscious and deliberate. It’s always a tough call as to whether it’s deception or self-deception. Kevin M

  65. September 15, 2010 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    despite their easily-documented strong Jewish identification and their close ties to Israel, they really believe that their policy recommendations are in the interests of the United States

    The Enemy knows FULL WELL what it is doing and is near to achieving its goal of genocide against the White race. That is the result of conscious planning and group cohesion. The results speak for themselves, the deluded do not achieve goals of that magnitude.

    No charges. Must have been a case of self-deception.
    Wiretap Recorded Rep. Harman Promising to Intervene for AIPAC

  66. Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
    September 15, 2010 - 3:58 pm | Permalink

    KMD quotes Stephens: “Mr. De Gucht’s target was Jews, the objects of his opprobrium their malign political influence and crippled mental reflexes. If this isn’t anti-Semitism, the term has no meaning.”

    Right on all counts. Jews were his target, and they do have both malign political influence and crippled mental reflexes. Further, it isn’t anti-Semitism to say so, and the term “anti-Semitism” really does have no meaning beyond what Jews and their defenders want it to mean. It’s a one-size-fits-all straightjacket that can be stretched to fit anyone they consider dangerous, recalling Sobran’s bon mot that an anti-Semite used to be someone who hates Jews, but now it’s someone whom the Jews hate.

  67. September 15, 2010 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Off topic: I’ve just seen the article in Wikipedia on Kevin MacDonald. It’s a libelous piece of liberal propaganda. Why aren’t KMD’s fans trying to fix it there (anyone can edit in the wiki)?

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