The Euro Rightwing Stunt in Jerusalem

If you can’t beat them join them. This is what one can conclude after observing the results of the recent PR stunt in Israel by Heinz-Christian Strache, head of the Austrian FPÖ, Geert Wilders of the Dutch PVV, and Filip De Winter of the Vlaams Belang. Faced with the Muslim invasion of Europe, there are rightwing voices in Europe who seriously think that European nationalists need to strike a deal with Zionists. Their working hypothesis goes that criticizing the Islamic threat can be best countered if and when framed within the parameters of anti-Arab Zionist discourse. The assumption is widespread that eventually some green light will start blinking in Tel Aviv and provide a safe venue for Muslim bashing in Europe.

But more is at stake with the Jerusalem visit by these three politicians.   Many European nationalists, similar to all politicians across the board in the USA and Europe, realize that political legitimacy at home can only be achieved if it receives prior blessing in Israel. Thus the visit of these brave Euro right-wingers only bears testimony as to who is the real boss in world affairs. Who wants to stay in endless opposition, cut off from the mainstream public by a “cordon sanitaire” and vilified forever as a bad Nazi?

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Neither are the Jewish commentators stupid, as was well demonstrated by a Haaretz commentator: “The organizers of these visits believe they have tamed this bunch of extremists they brought over from Europe, who after trading in their Jewish demon-enemy for the Muslim criminal-immigrant model are now singing in unison that Samaria is Jewish ground. Soon they’ll be sprouting beards and wearing kippot. But they have not genuinely cast off their spiritual DNA, and in any event, they aren’t looking for anything except for Jewish absolution that will bring them closer to political power.”

But as long as this charade continues and as long there are enough of useful idiots among American and European right-wingers, it will nicely serve the cause of Israel.   As a role model to the FPÖ, VM and also the BNP, one can cite the case of ex -fascist Gianfranco Fini, who became the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Berlusconi’s government only after prostrating himself at Yad Vashem. Then he could enjoy the plentiful perks of the Quirinal and become a respectable EU politician.

We will see more of these acrobatics among European right-wingers in the months to come.  This recent European rightwing stunt in Jerusalem is of interest insofar as it clearly sets up new lines of demarcation among the rank and file of European and American nationalists. The German nationalist NPD is taking a different direction, writing in its recent communiqué in Deutsche Stimme: “Those who oppose the conquest of other peoples in Europe, cannot simultaneously advocate the expulsion of other peoples from their ancestral homeland. … If they do, obviously foreign interests are involved…. The NPD will continue to be on the side of the people, especially those who are divided and oppressed – which in the last analysis includes the German people.”

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50 Comments to "The Euro Rightwing Stunt in Jerusalem"

  1. Bob Martin's Gravatar Bob Martin
    December 15, 2010 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    “I love Israel. I want the same for us White Christians what Jews have in Israel. I support Jewish Zionism for Israel, just like I support White Christian Zionism for America.”

    “Jews have a right to their eternal lands in Judea and Sumeria, as Europeans have the right to their eternal lands in all of Europe.”

    Or something like that.

    • Matt's Gravatar Matt
      December 16, 2010 - 1:05 pm | Permalink

      Yes God just told me I can have Florida for myself! I going to set up my own kingdom here. Mattistan, where I decide everything, and kick out everyone I don’f care for. After all who can question God giving it to me!

  2. Tom's Gravatar Tom
    December 15, 2010 - 11:35 am | Permalink

    I’m not a big fan of Wilders, or these other characters that Dr. Sunic mentions, but, this is a NUMBERS game. There are an UNLIMITED number of Moslems who are entering or want to enter Europe. The Jews although a vocal & wealthy political/ethnic/religious group still have very limited numbers compared to the Moslems.

    Any thinking White European has to consider the numbers, and the fact that the Jews & Moslems have worked and lived together in the past.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      December 16, 2010 - 5:28 pm | Permalink

      Tom, while I don’t know directly about Europe, who exactly do you think has been working so zealously to dilute the WASP culture of the US by giving citizenship to every Mansoor, Ahmad and Abdul (among others) who wants it?

    • Tom's Gravatar Tom
      December 17, 2010 - 10:30 am | Permalink

      The Moslems Have unlimited numbers & seemingly unlimited money, and can buy themselves into any university, college, or school in the country. Once here, it’s hard, if not impossible to get rid of them.

      We will have this problem here in the US regardless of what the “other brand” of Semites do. :) I figured this out 30 years ago, at a nationally known technical university. Don’t underestimate the problems the Chinese, Tiawanese, Koreans etc. etc. can cause here in the USA either.

  3. Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
    December 15, 2010 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    It won’t work.

  4. nicholas demonbe's Gravatar nicholas demonbe
    December 15, 2010 - 4:57 pm | Permalink

    ..big deal…

    worst case scenario…the world becomes islamic, whites adapt, excel in their new religion, and the jews are screwed by their own guile. Remember…whites went from their own polytheism to catholicism , to protestantism, and quite possibly now, to islam. how muny muslims will there be in the world then, and how pissed off at the jews will they be? but there is more…what will stop christian whites from being kryptochristians? it worked well for the jews, it will work for the christians as well.

  5. Rudel's Gravatar Rudel
    December 15, 2010 - 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Bob writes: ““Jews have a right to their eternal lands in Judea and Sumeria”

    Surely you mean Samaria. The temporary Jewish expansion east to Sumeria in the King David era lasted no more than a generation or so. Hardly the basis for an eternal right!

  6. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    December 15, 2010 - 6:06 pm | Permalink

    There is a cure for this:
    Stop talking about the Arab-Muslim invasion, and start talking about the Chinese invasion, the Indian invasion, the African invasion, etc.

    The “Arab invasion” is just one of many immigrant-invasions of Europe.

  7. me's Gravatar me
    December 15, 2010 - 8:29 pm | Permalink

    ethnonationalism

    Quite right. It’s the mudflood from everywhere.

    I doubt many of the “muslims” especially those from Africa are muslims. Islam is a mask that is being used as an ethnic rallying point and mosque meeting place to plan jihad. Their religion is the religion of Jihad/conquest not the religion of peace.

    Coming soon to take over a town and neighborhood near you. Bhutanese.

    State Department says NO LIMIT to Bhutanese refugees.

    http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/us-ambassador-to-nepal-no-cap-on-the-number-of-bhutanese-to-be-resettled-in-the-us/
    .

  8. me's Gravatar me
    December 15, 2010 - 8:54 pm | Permalink

    ..big deal…

    nicholas demonbe

    “worst case scenario…the world becomes islamic, whites adapt, excel in their new religion, and the jews are screwed by their own guile.”

    I think you’re making a very common but overly optimistic fatal error here.

    For “whites” ‘adapting and excelling’ are not an option.

    The jew’s plan for whites is genocide. Complete eradication of the white European gene pool. Possibly a select few of the muds/mixed races will be allowed to survive as slaves and servants. But even they will not be allowed to “adapt and excel” and eventually pose a threat to jewish domination.

  9. December 15, 2010 - 10:09 pm | Permalink

    I believe in doing anything to get power, but when you get the power, you better do what’s right even at the risk of losing it all.

    I’m glad to see the European politicians doing this — they are learning Taqqiyah from the Muslim immigrants. They are learning to play the Semitic Mind-weapon game. Those Israelis who hosted them KNOW they are anti-semites but don’t care. The idea that Jews actually care if you are anti-semitic or not, or that they are truly sensitive about the Holocaust, is their mindweapon meme they use on us. The truth is behind closed doors they make jokes about it, they say things like “we need to use that guilt.” http://www.archive.org/details/Hashmatsa Jews will do business with ANYONE, including “anti-semites” including even jihadists, if it benefits them. Israel and the Third Reich were all but allies, and if the Third Reich had won the war, Jews would be singing their praises, and the IDF would be equipped with Nazi weaponry from top to bottom. Heck, they’d probably have a statue to Hitler as “the founder of Israel.”

    The only real reason Hitler and the 3rd Reich are so reviled is that they lost the war.

    We need to be pure Machiavellian mindweapons, but with our White race always in our hearts, therefore less corruptible and less tempted by the “Eyes Wide Shut” lifestyle. We need to do ANYTHING to win, while remaining pure of heart.

    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      December 16, 2010 - 5:20 pm | Permalink

      Kievsky,
      The videio is something, amazing and also interesting in light of the Canadian Jew Jenny Peto’s thesis “The Victimhood of the Powerful: White Jews, Zionism and the Racism of Hegemonic Holocaust Education,”. The “construction of a victimized Jewish identity” is intentional, with “effects that are extremely beneficial to the organized Jewish community” and to “apartheid” Israel, she said.
      The Jews must realize they’ve gone too far, so now we get these videos and thesis of reason but STILL and AlWAYS protecting the Holocaust in it’s Hollywood form.

    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      December 16, 2010 - 7:06 pm | Permalink

      I also note the “White Jews” bit. Always playing the race card and conjuring the image of White slave owners (as opposed to Chinese, Black, Indian, Arab etc. etc.)

  10. Charlotta Genscher's Gravatar Charlotta Genscher
    December 15, 2010 - 11:42 pm | Permalink

    As a woman, I dread the thought of living in a Muslim-influenced culture. Tonight, my mother and I went to an Islamic community center for a political meeting-not a religious service. The women were seated in the BACK of the room. Worse, we were asked to move twice to accommodate men who arrived late. I do not object to gender separation in principle but if the Muslim men wanted it so much, they should have inconvenienced themselves. What will happen when Muslims in America become more numerous?

    • December 17, 2010 - 6:18 am | Permalink

      What would happen is that women would be put in their place.

    • December 18, 2010 - 9:48 am | Permalink

      With respect, we should I think, be willing to suffer inconvenience for the sake of posterity.
      Don’t forget Rosa Parks.
      Women were not “equal” in the past, but were treated with respect….Now they are sex objects

  11. mm's Gravatar mm
    December 16, 2010 - 12:07 am | Permalink

    What does he mean by ‘spiritual DNA’? How can one ‘cast off’ one’s DNA? And if it’s DNA it’s not like it’s my fault for having it, and I can’t cast it off anyway; its intrinsic.

    I think he means something more like ‘cultural DNA,’ but he realizes that ‘cultural DNA’ connotes a culture, or a group, whereas ‘spiritual DNA’ connotes one’s spirit, or private individual conscience. Saying ‘cultural DNA’ would get people’s backs up: “Hold on, is that Jew saying all of us [Dutch, Austrians, Flemings/Walloons, etc. --European white Christians] are somehow genetically bad?! Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black or something?!”

  12. stephen's Gravatar stephen
    December 16, 2010 - 5:31 am | Permalink

    “Many European nationalists, similar to all politicians across the board in the USA and Europe, realize that political legitimacy at home can only be achieved if it receives prior blessing in Israel.” Not true. The liberal/left establishment that governs Europe is pro-Palestine anti-Israel. Your condemnation of Europe’s new right is simplistic.

    • Jeff Maylor's Gravatar Jeff Maylor
      December 16, 2010 - 6:48 am | Permalink

      Yes, I think it’s important for us not to inflate the Israeli lobby or the Jews in general into some mythical omnipotent monster that controls every last thing. When the Left comes up with an intelligent argument against Israel or for Palestine (to be honest I don’t care much about either – lol), they often get traction. After all, many European companies are doing business with Iran with regards to it’s nuclear capability – not something I’m thrilled with – but anyway, it does happen.

      Often the Right just doesn’t want to build a cogent argument. For decades all we had were “them Jews drink Christian blood” type arguments that everyone laughed at. That’s what is so great about this site, we finally have smart critiques of Israel and Jewish power.

    • December 18, 2010 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

      Don’t forget that the far left condemnation of Israel is a recent developement, and both the left and the right have historically worshipped Jews and all things Jewish.
      There is after all, a reason for the term “Judaochristianity” as opposed to “Christijudaism”

  13. December 16, 2010 - 8:42 am | Permalink

    Jeff,

    Now we have the following phraseology, which Kevin Macdonald has coined for us, sorry about my paraphrasing.

    “Non-Jewish White people have a legitimate conflict of interest with Organized Jewry.”

    It’s “legitimate conflict of interest” is the important term — it is legitimate for us to look at policies formulated by O.J. and enforced by law, and resist these policies, because these policies are BAD FOR US. What we need to survive is the opposite of what the O.J. is inflicting on us.

    This legitmate conflict of interest battle is being fought at the level of MindWar. Most nj Whites are not aware of this level of conflict — they think conflict means car chases and gunfights and then a setback then a resolution after 90 minutes and the credits roll. They don’t (with some exceptions) think in terms of a war of ideas that are enacted and enforced. They assume society is just the organic result of the people’s will; they don’t realize to what extent we are being “engineered” like a herd of cattle.

    It is a war of higher consciousness. The secret and unspeakable truth is that racial awareness and eugenics and higher consciousness go hand in hand. OUR Higher Consciousness, not theirs. What Jews call “Jewish ethics” is their version of higher consciousness. Our Higher Consciousness is very different.

    The MindWar is an effort by the O.J. to suppress our higher consciousness and instead impose Jewish ethics on the world. Here is Jewish ethics personified, Barbara Lerner Spectre:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_a-25MhRuk

    Isn’t it funny how she says if “Europe isn’t multicultural . . . Europe will not survive.” Huh? Will the continent of Europe get over-run by the sea if it doesn’t go multicultural? Will Yahweh send lightning bolts? Will Whites freeze to death and starve without help from the diverse masses of hte world?

    This is a war of consciousness. I think our higher consciousness is spreading.

    • December 18, 2010 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

      Agree.
      A person can live on a diet of B.S. mixed with steak and potatos.
      But SURVIVAL will prevent us eating PURE B.S. Hopefully

  14. B. Effer's Gravatar B. Effer
    December 16, 2010 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Stunt is too decent a word to describe this.

    The zionists are the reason that Europe is being overrun with filthy third world scum, led by the parade of Moslems from the dung holes of the Middle East. The zionists are the reason the US is being filled with third world garbage, led by the smelly, low IQ hordes from Mexico.

    No deal to be cut. Other things must be cut. But no deals.

  15. Matt's Gravatar Matt
    December 16, 2010 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

    When you get in bed with jews, expect your money to be gone, your reputation gone, your contacts gone, you lay with money grubbing whores, for political loose change? You need a jews approval to take back your ethnic homeland or create your own place in the Sun? Give me a break, can you say sellouts? pawns of the zionists? no better thant he zionist lackeys we have now leading Europe and usa, bowing to every jewish group!

  16. December 16, 2010 - 3:59 pm | Permalink

    The English Defence League should have a K after its name.
    The BNP is another one. Geert Wilders has, according to reports, some Jewish blood. I would add Stormfront to this rancid stew also.

    These groups have been co-opted. Simple. Very few organizations or individuals stay true to honor.

    The J’s lead the lemmings down to their destruction and enlist those same lemmings in the effort. Kosher Conservatives rule the Tea Party, Stormfront, the GOP, all of the Bible & Constitution groups.

    When even the OPPOSITION is controlled, as it so often was under the Bolsheviks/Soviets then it is DOUBLY important to engage in insightful analysis.

    When our homelands are invaded by non-Whites we must ask why the blight-wing focuses on the RELIGION of SOME of the invaders?
    It is because they are in service to the gang, that’s why.

    Superficial minds consume propaganda as a babe its mother’s milk.
    The public Islam of the non-white racists is, as mentioned earlier by “me”
    @me December 15, 2010 – 8:29 pm, really just a mask for their racial goals. In the same way that Our Lady of Guadalupe is not the Virgin Mary but the Azetc goddess of the mestizos.

    Imagine a white “Hezbollah” and what that would mean for White survival? Those Arabs, both Christian and Muslim, in that organization, many who appear to be Mediterranean Whites, up against the BEAST, in a way White activists here do not have any comprehension of, and yet they succeed. They are amazing.

    Islam gave women MORE rights, more FREEDOM, than Judaism and Christianity did. However cultural concepts like FGM are often assigned to the religion of Islam even though it is purely cultural and is also found among Asians and Africans who are animists.

    Orthodox Jewish women are separated from the men at synagogue.
    Such are the customs.
    Orthodox Jewish women are not allowed to ride the bus in Israel.
    In New York City and everywhere they reside, Orthodox Jewish women have to obtain a get to be divorced and the husband has to approve.
    In Islam the woman may obtain a divorce without any such approval.

    The bottom line is not the religion of the invaders but that non-whites are moving in and taking over.

    • Philip N.'s Gravatar Philip N.
      December 16, 2010 - 8:27 pm | Permalink

      “Islam gave women MORE rights, more FREEDOM, than Judaism and Christianity did”
      Christianity?
      This is idiotic. I only hope unintentional.

    • December 17, 2010 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

      I agree entirely with Philip N. The relatively high status of women is a basic trait of individualist culture. In the rest of the world, women have always had low status. Kevin M

    • December 17, 2010 - 1:16 pm | Permalink

      The foundation texts of the Abrahamic faiths, from Judaism to Islam, show an evolution in rights of women. The doctrinal view of women in the Qur’an is more in line with modern views of women’s rights than either the Judaic holy books or the New Testament. That is just fact.

      In any debate one is free to disagree however the sign of an Aryan is to debate with all due politesse, whilst the sign of a Jewish troll, or debased white, is to cast verbal slurs and so forth.

      On soft gray mornings widows cry
      The wise men share a joke;
      I run to grasp divining signs
      To satisfy the hoax.
      The yellow jester does not play
      But gentle pulls the strings
      And smiles as the puppets dance
      In the court of the Crimson King.

    • December 17, 2010 - 1:20 pm | Permalink

      @Kevin MacDonald December 17, 2010 – 12:07 pm
      Joseph Campbell noted during one of his lectures, that the very concept of the individual is a European thing. That is why in Norse countries, especially, women were held in such high esteem, etc.
      Just as we are the caretakers of the earth, we also view women and children differently from the rest of creatures that inhabit the earth.
      Israel is the white slave capital of the world, whilst in Northern Europe such practices bring the swift reaction of the populace.

    • December 18, 2010 - 1:07 pm | Permalink

      Shiva:
      Your post was brilliant, insightful, and cuts almost to the bone. However, I would add that the thing that allows this mixing/confusion of disparate cultures, much as a catylist in a chemical reaction, is the false god of “equality” ie, democracy, diversity, etc.
      We have been riding the Judeochistianity train for a hundred years…The trestle is out…time to jump off

  17. Felix's Gravatar Felix
    December 16, 2010 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    So many of those poor, stupid right-wingers don’t realize that while the Muslims aren’t their friends, neither are the Israelis.

  18. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    December 16, 2010 - 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Instead of talking about “the Arab invasion”, they should start talking about the Jewish immigrant invasion – thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union immigrated to Western Europe in the 1990s.
    The majority of these Jews are connected to the “Russian” Jewish mafia.

    So, how can Arabs be a bigger problem for Europe than these immigrant Jews?

    • Jeff Maylor's Gravatar Jeff Maylor
      December 16, 2010 - 9:36 pm | Permalink

      Well Arabs are never going to be as smart as Jews at PR or deception, so they don’t get away with as much. Arabs are rather obvious in their intentions. And in the immediate sense, Arabs do cause a lot more problems than Jews, at least in their modern form. They blow things up, they blow themselves up, they go on the public dole, etc. Jews tend to get college degrees. Now of course in the long run Jews often use their more “legitimate” position to undermine their host civilizations anc cause more trouble than the Arabs could ever dream of.

      But most people don’t look past the immediate.

  19. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    December 17, 2010 - 5:59 am | Permalink

    Wilders and Co. should ask themselves:
    Are Jewish immigrants like Roman Abramovich, Berezovsky, Semion Mogilevich, Alexander Goldfarb etc., any better than Arab immigrants?

    I mean, these people brought the worst kind of organized crime on your streets!

  20. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    December 17, 2010 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Have you any idea the kind of pressure the BNP are under from lavishly funded quangos (the director general is on 1000 quid) a day taking them to courts where Judges who hate their guts will decide matters . Friday, 12 March 2010. “The British National Party was today banned from recruiting new members after a court ruled its constitution was illegal.” http://operationblackvote.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/bnp-faces-bankruptcy-as-legal-costs-bleed-them-dry/>August 18, 2010 – BNP faces bankruptcy as legal costs bleed them dry.

    The legal elite are totally corrupt. For example the Jewish Lord Hoffmann’s failure to declare his links with Amnesty International (which disqualified him) before ruling on whether General Pinochet was immune from prosecution led to the unprecedented setting aside of a House of Lords judgment. It is very often people like him, ie those who think the BNP are the force of evil, that rule on the cases brought against the BNP. They can only see immigrants powerless victims We’ll carry on fighting to get asylum seeker who left child to ‘die like a dog’ kicked out, vows government. Complaining about a religion is one of the few avenues open to Griffin now.

  21. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    December 17, 2010 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

    After reading some of the comments here I’ve been left aghast at the ignorance of those who prefer to beat the rest of us reading here about our heads and shoulders with their Big Stick Bigotry.

    ["Ignorance" meaning, 1) "lack of knowledge or education", 2) "unawareness of something, often something important". And of course, we all know what “bigotry” means, don’t we?]

    Have any of you whiners and haters ever had a serious discussion about art, religion or politics with an Arab or Muslim? Or a Jew, for that matter? Or an Eastern European? Or a Chinese businessman? Or a Brahmin science student?

    Have any of you Shriekers EVER read a book that challenges your prejudices?

    Are any of you old enough to remember when unwed mothers were treated like animals and forced to leave their families and friends right here in North America – forcing them into a life of poverty and despair, alienated from everything and everyone they knew? Can you remember when respectable women weren’t allowed out in public without a hat or gloves? Or when it was perfectly acceptable for a man to come home drunk to beat his wife and children right here in North America?

    Because all of those things were more common than you’d like to admit in our North American White culture – even within the last 50 years.

    The point I’m trying to make is that conditions change, people change and societal norms change.

    Are any of you aware that before the USA illegally invaded and deliberately destroyed Iraq at the behest of the sociopaths who call themselves Zionists that the Iraqi culture was more Westernized than Israel – with more women attaining university science degrees than in Israel? Of course not. How could you? You get the majority of your “news” from liars and manipulators.

    The problem as I see it isn’t the fact that “others” are invading our space, taking our jobs and demeaning our accomplishments because I can still see that happening between members of the same white families right here in my town – forget the immigrants that get blamed for such things with regularity. And PUHLEAZE – spare me the “furiners stink” schtick!

    No, the problem is that our laws and accepted cultural practices, (written and promoted by “who” these days, exactly?) do not severely criticize and/or protect us from these assaults on the dominant social structures we are deservedly proud of.

    Why is that again?

    Turn your attention to the bastards who are responsible for THOSE pernicious deeds. They’re the ones who are intentionally destroying our social cohesion by allowing anyone who comes here to think they can do what they like and hate who they want whether our greater society likes it or not.

    We’re ALL immigrants. It’s best to remember that. And while we as white European people should be proud of the traditions and practices we have contributed to our modern world we also need to never forget the squalid parts of our past we have grown out of because we developed the freedom to change because our parents were encouraged to think themselves the equal of any other person living.

    That’s what is under threat from above – the idea that all men are created equal, and with it the idea of “democracy”.

    It ain’t Arabs or Russian peasant immigrants or whoever who are challenging those ideals today is it?

    So tell me once again why your focus is so narrow and fearful? Could it be you’re just another under-educated, manipulated and unimaginative dolt, performing in your own personal dog and pony show designed for you by powerful people who hate you?

    Because that’s the way it looks from here, Sheeple.

    And to be clear – this diatribe is not directed at those who do not deserve it. There are, as is usual, many people commenting here who are not ignorant bigots. But it’s the ignorant bigots who undercut our struggle for respect and attention who I am directing this rant at. The best thing you clowns can do for the cause is SHUT UP.

    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      December 18, 2010 - 9:19 am | Permalink

      I like what you wrote arthurdecco because it made me think. You are correct that the good ole days leave something to be desired but I think you are not being honest about today. More woman and children live below the poverty line today then when men could beat their wives and children and by-the-way that are still going on. I don’t see the oppression in expecting respectable woman to wear hats and gloves. I prefer that to today’s standard of showing cleavage of all parts of the body. Our standards have lowered on all fronts and our children are at drift.
      I don’t believe all people are equal. I do believe all people have value. The question is, can a truly multicultural society work without the oppression of any group. No, is my answer because different cultures value different things and if the law is used to suppress one then it favors another, for example animal ritual killing or legal prostitution.
      And I’m not a believer in democracy because I can’t think of one time in history were it worked. Certainly the Athenian, didn’t practice democracy in the way in which is presented to us today. Our founding father gave us a republic, not a democracy and for good reason. They saw democracy at work in the French revolution and they didn’t want that bloody mess here. And lets face it if we truly believed in democracy we would not have civil rights laws today or abortion rights because the majority of Americans didn’t want either.
      Arthurdecco you sound like a very well read person and one whose heart is in the right place, so I’m sure you are aware of Louis-Ferdinand Celine, arguable the greatest French writer and thinker of the XXth century who said, “Democracy is always and above all nothing but the veil of the Jewish Dictatorship.” Our forefathers gave us a republic for a reason. We didn’t even start talking about democracy until the turn of the last century, and interesting timing with the two plus million Russian Jewish immigrants.

  22. December 18, 2010 - 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Artherdecco: good post! Ignorant “red-necks” will be the death of the white race not just as the dominant culture in the world. We are talking dissapearance, extinction, etc.
    Considering the job we have done in the top position, one has to wonder if it will be such a bad thing.

  23. December 18, 2010 - 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Helvena:
    Good post!
    The fact that cars only have one steering wheel does not mean the passenger is inferior.
    Also, from everything I can gather, the old women in nursing homes don’t tell as many horror stories about the old days as the young women who never experienced them. While it is true that women today have enormous power, it hasn’t accrued to the benefit of the younger generation.
    Simply put, kids need mothers, not “equals”

    Here is another quote: “Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people dictate to the other 49%”
    Thomas Jefferson

    And another:
    “In a Democracy, every man has the right to vote his media-led conscience”…..Me

  24. m_astera's Gravatar m_astera
    December 18, 2010 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

    I see it very simply: The Jews engineered a high level of immigration of their enemies to the West, knowing that the immigrants would not assimilate to N European culture. They continue to do all they can to provoke conflict between the enemy immigrants and the enemy that poses a real threat to them, European individualism, idealism, and genius. The goal is to have us fight each other and kill each other while they sit back and laugh, waiting to rake in the spoils.

    The right wingers who went to kiss ass in Israel have shown their true colors, that they will do anything for power. Well, F**k that. True personal honor trumps all in my understanding of traditional N European culture; the poor but honorable knight; the concepts of chivalry, honesty, and fairness.

    Strache, WIlders, and De Winter have shown that desire for power is more important to them than honor. Those actions do not represent any culture that I claim for myself or feel is worth defending.

    NB: Democracy is another evil joke.

  25. December 19, 2010 - 5:25 am | Permalink

    Readers,

    I have had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Sunic in Australia and from memory we discussed the very trend he has discussed here.

    One group of so-called Australian patriots broke from our party (Australia First Party) some years ago to push Zionopatriotism. This group publishes ‘links’ on its website to de Winter, BNP and so forth and organises anti Islamist events etc.

    Interestingly, just last week in response to a campaign of ours against a certain ‘refugee intrusion’ (nost of these refugees happen to be Moslem), the Anti-Defamation Commission (Inc), a Zionist thought-police entity here, published a text in favour of the continued refugee influx.

    It seems that no matter how many hoops those who court ‘respectability’ and access to the mainstream are asked to leap through – the Zionists offer just illusions in return.

    For some of the debate in Australia:

    http://www.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/defendnationalism/index.html

  26. Rudel's Gravatar Rudel
    December 19, 2010 - 4:43 pm | Permalink

    arthurdecco hallucinates: “Are any of you old enough to remember when unwed mothers were treated like animals and forced to leave their families and friends right here in North America – forcing them into a life of poverty and despair, alienated from everything and everyone they knew? Can you remember when respectable women weren’t allowed out in public without a hat or gloves? Or when it was perfectly acceptable for a man to come home drunk to beat his wife and children right here in North America?

    Because all of those things were more common than you’d like to admit in our North American White culture – even within the last 50 years. “

    Sheer and utter nonsense! Not allowed out of the house without dressing up for church in 1960??? Being a drunken wife beater? No adoption or homes for unwed mothers?

    Stop your anti-white trolling please. All of you Nizkor disinformation activists, just stop.

    This site is in dire need of moderators.

    • arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
      December 20, 2010 - 1:05 am | Permalink

      Rudel, your comments only confirm your ignorance of 1960, white North America.

      Trust me – it really was like that most places.

      …and thank goodness it isn’t like that now…

      As for my “anti-white trolling” … well, you’ll just have to put up with it, considering I’m white, well-informed and heartily sick and tired of imbeciles like you denying the reality I grew up in.

  27. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    December 20, 2010 - 1:29 am | Permalink

    Helvena,

    Thanks for your thought-provoking post (Helvena,
    December 18, 2010 – 9:19 am).

    You’ve given me a Library’s worth of ideas to ruminate over.

    And while I do think of myself as well-read, I haven’t read everything – not even Most Things. You’re probably in the same leaky boat yourself, aren’t cha?

    I promise you I will read Louis-Ferdinand Celine as soon as possible.

    You’ve made him irresistible in your comments.

    Thanks again.

  28. Rudel's Gravatar Rudel
    December 20, 2010 - 1:53 am | Permalink

    arthurdecco (der Nizkook weinerschnitzel) – you are a lying sack of sh!t. As I said, 1960 was nothing like that. And unlike you, I was actually there.

    For those that care, the tag team of white angel and anonyma (same person) has changed its name to arthurdecco and helvena.

    This site needs better moderation.

  29. Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
    December 20, 2010 - 2:27 am | Permalink

    I think it’s important to have a variety of opinions, but I am very suspicious of anyone who attacks traditional culture out of hand….

  30. Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
    December 20, 2010 - 6:51 am | Permalink

    Thank you Arthurdecco. Actually I’ve got a bit of egg on my face because our constitution was created before the French Revolution (but not by much). The fact remains that our forefathers knew the masses didn’t always make good decisions and so gave us a republic (leadership by enlightened represenatives of the people).

  31. m_astera's Gravatar m_astera
    December 20, 2010 - 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Helvena wrote:

    “a republic (leadership by enlightened represenatives of the people).”

    Which has now become a media-sold popularity contest.

    Hard to say how one would measure enlightenment. I would settle for wise, compassionate, and selfless in service to all for the greater good.

    Anyone have any candidates or present officeholders to nominate who fit the above criteria?

  32. m_astera's Gravatar m_astera
    December 20, 2010 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    To All-

    I’ve been reading at OO for a couple of years.

    ArthurDecco-

    Who exactly is holding up the USA in 1960 as the ideal of Western or European culture? We have been messed with since the Romans looted Gaul and destroyed that culture. One might get a little closer to understanding the native N European culture by studying the literature and history preserved in Iceland. Kinda looks like they are still giving us examples there, e.g., when criminals in trusted positions betray the people they were supposed to represent, the people are not responsible for fulfilling the agreements and obligations made by traitors.

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