Marine LePen: A Unique Voice in the Rise of Anti-Muslim Political Parties in Europe

Kevin MacDonald

Coming on the heels of visits to Israel by Geert Wilders and a delegation of other luminaries of the European anti-Muslim right, Adar Primor of Ha’aretz interviewed Marine LePen, the daughter of Jean Marie LePen and likely the next leader of the National Front (“The daughter as de-demonizer”). Like the other European anti-Muslim politicians, Marine LePen claims no animosity toward Jews, but the interviewer, Adar Primor, is clearly suspicious—unwilling to remove the “mark of Cain” that all European nationalist politicians inherit as the result of the centrality of the Holocaust in the contemporary European political landscape. Nevertheless, her views, particularly on Israel, set her apart from the other notables on the European right.

The good news is that LePen is getting a lot of publicity in the mainstream French media: Her “smiling face … adorns the front of the prestigious weekly L’Express …. She’s seen everywhere. On France’s television screens, in its newspapers, at party conventions, on billboards.”

The party is expected to get up to 27% of the votes in the 2012 presidential election. LePen claims that a majority of the supporters of Sarkozy’s party agree with her views. “For the first time in the history of the National Front, the political establishment is not uniting against us, but is running after us.” The establishment is getting the message:

“They’re afraid,” was more or less the headline of an article recently published in Le Monde. “They” are both the left and the right. According to one school of thought, “We must not surrender to the agenda she is dictating for fear of increasing her popularity”; according to another, “It’s impossible to ignore the problems she raises that are preoccupying the French.”


A Daily Telegraph interview quotes a French political analyst who notes that “The French no longer only see the FN as an extreme-Right party but as a populist and popular party transcending the Right and Left.”

LePen is quite explicit in her opposition to “the flourishing of radical Islam that refuses to accept the laws of the French republic.” In the Daily Telegraph interview, she sketches a position quite similar to Geert Wilders:

“The progressive Islamisation of our country and the increase in political-religious demands are calling into question the survival of our civilisation. … We are fighting against Islamism, not Islam. … Islamism is the will to impose Shariah for all as civil, political and religious law. … In reality, it’s asking French people to increasingly submit themselves to the Muslim religion. That goes totally against the secular principles of the French republic.”

She mentions particularly public displays of Islam—closing streets for high-decibel prayer meetings and women wearing head scarves in lieu of the recently banned niqab and burka.

Like Wilders, her objections to Islam are not phrased in terms of seeing them as racial aliens but as unwilling to conform to secular French culture. Distancing herself from the BNP, she claims the National Front is “neither racist nor xenophobic but simply a ‘patriotic’ party.”  Islam is fine but Islamization is not. France is “one of the least racist countries in the world. People aren’t judged here according to their color or their religion, but according to their qualities.” Like Wilders, LePen comes across as a libertarian who advocates a meritocracy, abolishing affirmative action, and evaluation on the basis of individual qualities rather than group membership.

Muslims pray in the streets of Paris

She suggests that the rightist politicians making pilgrimages to Israel are trying to beef up their image at home. (I agree.) But unlike the others, she has not attempted to appeal to the Israeli settlement movement: “I consider it a political mistake and would like to make it clear in this context that we must have the right to criticize the policy of the State of Israel — just as we are allowed to criticize any sovereign country — without it being considered anti-Semitism. After all, the National Front has always been Zionistic and always defended Israel’s right to exist.”

Indeed, she is not at all shy about criticizing Israel. She rejects the recent rabbinical ruling calling on Jews not to rent to Arabs. And she notes that Israeli rhetoric on immigration and multiculturalism is far more extreme than what is acceptable in France:

If we were to say in France a thousandth of what they say in Israel on the subject, we would immediately be thrown into prison for incitement to racial hatred. In practical terms, the country must adopt a preventive and effective immigration policy, which would include putting the employers of foreigners on trial and imposing heavy fines on them. You also have to implement the idea of national preference, and abolish all the incentives that attract migrants, for example social welfare, education for the children, health and housing services.

LePen seems to realize that the National Front is not going to get the support of Jews either in France or in Israel. Indeed, the Israeli government has prevented her from visiting, and the French Jewish community has also rejected her overtures and her pledge to “turn over a new leaf” by rejecting her father’s statements on the Holocaust and other aspects of history. (In 2005 she almost left the party when her father claimed that “the Nazi occupation was not particularly inhumane.”) Present and former leaders of the organized Jewish community in France worry that she is more dangerous than her father because she is more likely to appeal to mainstream moderate right voters.

Jean-Marie Le Pen with Marine Le Pen, in a photo accompanying a story on Jean Marie's conviction for violating France's anti-Holocaust denial laws

As with the other European anti-Muslim politicians, there are a tiny number of Jews who support LePen: The Jewish Defense League, the followers of Meir Kahane whose main concern is Muslim attacks on Jews. Indeed, the situation in the Netherlands has deteriorated to the point that the former EU commissioner, Dutchman Frits Bolkestein, “declared that the Jews in his country have to emigrate to Israel or to the United States because it is no longer possible to protect them.”

Given the lack of Jewish support, she has opted to take a position on Israel that is well within the European mainstream by emphasizing how intolerant and racist the country is. Such rhetoric fits in well with EU criticism of the Netanyahu government, the settlements, and the Gaza embargo and should resonate with French voters.

Her comments on anti-Semitism also suggest someone trying to appeal to mainstream non-Jewish voters. She claims that there is no anti-Semitism among the native French, that Jews are Frenchmen, and that French Jews should not emigrate to Israel. Muslim anti-Semitism stems from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But the Jews are not the only victims of Muslim attitudes: “There are entire regions where it’s better not to be a Jew, a woman, a homosexual or even an ordinary white Frenchman.”

Finally, LePen is not willing to grovel on the issue of French responsibility for the Vichy regime of WWII. “I don’t intend to speak badly of my country. … It was not France that was responsible, and not the French state, but the regime. I also object to constant and systematic mea culpas. We have to accept our country as it is, with its good and bad moments, with its periods of magnificence and its less glamorous periods, with the failures and the mistakes, with the dramas and the unfortunate events. French history is very long. Fairness requires that it be treated as a whole, and not be sliced like pieces of salami without any connection, in order to try to look better politically.”

Primor, the Israeli interviewer, sums up his impression: “She is torn between her wish to create a new, decent image and her inability to disassociate herself from her party’s anti-Semitic old guard.”

It’s not clear where he got this from. Certainly it’s not anything she said—unless the unwillingness to grovel on the Vichy issue constitutes anti-Semitism. Indeed, the article quotes the Jewish philosopher and public intellectual Alain Finkielkraut, “the anti-Semitism of the far right is finished. Le Pen is anti-Semitic, but his daughter is definitely not.”

Marine LePen exemplifies the trend toward European nationalist anti-Muslim parties to provide at least a veneer of philosemitism. As with Geert Wilders and the others, the National Front will get no help from Jews.

I suggest that her comments on Israel may be more politically astute than the strategy of attempting to make an alliance with the Israeli far right—a strategy that has not changed the attitude of the organized Jewish community either in Israel or the Diaspora. Her positions are entirely compatible with the official EU opposition to settlements in post-1967 areas occupied by Israel, including East Jerusalem. Recently the EU envoy’s report reiterated “the EU’s commitment to the two-state solution with an independent, democratic, contiguous and viable Palestinian state, comprising the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza, living side by side in peace and security with the State of Israel.”

The rise of the National Front and the other European nationalist parties is a huge breakthrough for the movement to reestablish a sense of European culture and eventually European peoplehood. It’s obvious that Muslims will never become the good liberal republican Europeans that LePen says she wants them to be. As a result, the success of these parties means that Europe would have a renewed sense of cultural identity.

It would then be a short step to the realization that some cultures are simply unable or unwilling to adopt contemporary liberal European values. Europeans would be much closer to the realization that their individualist, libertarian tradition is fundamentally at odds with pretty much the entire rest of the world.

Moreover, success of these parties would embolden anti-immigration sentiment throughout the West, including countries like the United States whose main immigration problem stems from the failed states of Latin America rather than Islam. There is much to be said for the slippery slope argument that once Muslims are successfully targeted as unassimilable, Europeans and other Westerners will realize that other groups, such as African-derived peoples, Latinos, and Asians, have not been successfully integrated either. One can easily see the anti-immigration movement snowballing as Europe develops a renewed sense of cultural identity and confidence. (see here.)

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64 Comments to "Marine LePen: A Unique Voice in the Rise of Anti-Muslim Political Parties in Europe"

  1. Lancashire lad's Gravatar Lancashire lad
    June 7, 2011 - 11:37 am | Permalink

    It might be worth an update here from July 2011 as the original post is from January and the presidential campaign is now heating up. I have just returned from France and for the first time the sheer number of negroes, even in small towns, really struck me. Almost all were full-blooded and they were not in ghettoes, but mixed in with the native population. I began to count and it averaged around one in five. When I counted the number of children, the proportion was even higher. That is not counting Asians and Arabs. As usual, there were no blacks on TV, but the contrast with what you see around you was only the more striking. Thee was sure been a large change in the last thirty or so years.

    However, there was a biography of Marine Le Pen in the bookshops, even the university bookshops – prominently displayed – Ernst Nolte’s European Civil War was selling well and the author Celine was being discussed in magazines.

    So there is hope, but matters are surely far gone when parts of Paris could be mistaken for Africa on the Seine.

  2. Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
    March 20, 2011 - 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Hitler by 1925 had already written France off as lost and nothing to date would change that. LePen sucking up to jews strikes me as exactly like Republicans sucking up to blacks; by doing so they lose far more support than they’ll ever get from either. There is a place for all sorts of milder WN to draw more support. But not in the main thrust; it only alienates your strongest support.

    I don’t even know why we should any longer even be concerned about France. In the last 100 years it’s done nothing but help drag us into wars against our own interests. To hell with France.

  3. daniel's Gravatar daniel
    January 21, 2011 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    She’s France’s last chance. the new Joan of Arc? Maybe. NF has to stay away from even slightly anti-semitic stuff (you don’t have to deny jewish over-reprsenation in the media, but no “the jews did it” talk, etc.) though for reasons of strategy if nothing else.

  4. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    January 19, 2011 - 5:33 am | Permalink

    “Western Europeans, like European-Americans, have been intellectually and spiritually castrated by endless Jewish psychological bombardment since the end of WW2.”

    That’s why this is primarily a psychological battle and not a political one. Electoral politics shouldn’t attempt to find a way through the dominant culture weakening itself with every step it should be used as a vehicle for waging psychological warfare aimed at weakening the dominant culture.

  5. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    January 19, 2011 - 5:26 am | Permalink

    “The Jews have been put out of 80+ countries. They brag about it. No one with any sense goes to war with them. They say that they can always hire half of the people in a country to go to war with the other half. They brag about it and they do it and they win.”

    In 1290 England expelled the jews. The other western european countries followed suit and once trade and capital was no longer concentrated in jewish hands the Renaissance began soon after.

    If a *single* nation expels the jews then yes they’ll eventually create a coalition to destroy that nation.

    The white nations need to follow the 1290 model.

    • daniel's Gravatar daniel
      January 21, 2011 - 3:36 pm | Permalink

      whats the 1290 model?

  6. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 18, 2011 - 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Bobby Fischer:
    “If Muslims started a White wing of Islam I would probably join.”

    There are about 10 million White Muslims in Europe:

    I know a lot of them and I can tell you that the majority of them see themselves as part of the “Islamic world” (along with Arabs, Turic-speaking peoples, Iranians, Chechens, and Indonesians).

    For instance, Džemaludin Latić (a Bosnian Muslim poet) once said: “I feel closer to a Muslim from Malaysia than to a Croat from Stup” (Stup was an ethnically Croatian suburb of Sarajevo).

    Former Bosnian President Alija Izetbegović was a prominent ideologist of Pan-Islamism. He wrote a book called the Islamic Declaration in which he urged Muslims to abandon their ethnic identities in favour of a universal Islamic one.
    Bay the way, Izetbegović was a member of the SS during World War II (SS Handschar Division).

    In general, the White Muslims have all the same grudges against Western Europeans as non-White Muslims.

    This is one of the reasons I believe that there is no such thing as “White interests”.
    The cultural differences between various European groups are so great that it is a mistake to say that all Europeans are one group.

  7. John Parker's Gravatar John Parker
    January 17, 2011 - 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Three cheers for the National Front! While GRECE has provided the intellectual foundation for the New Right, LePen et al and their party stalwarts have been in the trenches fighting the political fight and winning over the man in the street. We will never have the support of the larger Jewish community, their deep suspicion of Western Culture and long held feelings of victimization go too deep. Attempts at cultivating them will be pointless. Keeping the West in sack clothe and ashes, writing checks and continually repenting of our sins against their people is much more to their liking.

  8. Bobby Fischer's Gravatar Bobby Fischer
    January 17, 2011 - 2:30 pm | Permalink

    If Muslims started a White wing of Islam I would probably join. Muslims dislike feminists,gays and Jews,maybe they are’nt so bad after all.

    • daniel's Gravatar daniel
      January 21, 2011 - 3:40 pm | Permalink

      your comment reflects just how bad christianity has gotten in the west (if what the megachurch diversity lovers can even be put in the same category as Thomas Aquinus). I know what you mean. I look at Islam and i think, “thats a real religion”. Then I look at the American mega-churches, as a scottish jew, and I think, “this is sick consumerist god-talk bullshit”. American christians, all they do is adopt african kids, they’re obbessed with the 3rd world.

  9. January 17, 2011 - 7:06 am | Permalink

    As remarked elsewhere, presumably this is practically in the best interests of Zionism, given Zionists need as much (devout) Jewish migration to Israel as possible given the high Arab birth-rate in Israel/Palestine and how that impacts upon local demography and politics? Not all Jewish people are Zionists of course..

    For more on the demographic issue, see some of the comments/exchanges in the second link after the main (interesting) article.

  10. Christopher G Hicks's Gravatar Christopher G Hicks
    January 17, 2011 - 5:24 am | Permalink

    “…Must eventually learn to strike such notions with their skulls.” Very, very well said.

  11. Edgardus de la Vega's Gravatar Edgardus de la Vega
    January 16, 2011 - 6:36 pm | Permalink

    I always had faith (with a few oscillations here and there) France would wake up to its reality. The real time experience of societal degradation has finally knocked some sense into them. However, a bi-directional relationship with the Jews is to be perennially questioned. The Jews are the most anti-European people in all of human history. Spain removed them en masse for a good reason.

  12. European's Gravatar European
    January 16, 2011 - 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Food for thought from:
    o Americans, deprived of religious instruction by a corrupted Government, are afraid of Old Age and Death. And in their cowardice, they refuse to help the elderly because they are afraid to face what they, themselves, will be someday. Americans have been cheated by the evil lawyers, judges and bankers. They have actually accepted as true the false lawyer’s reading of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Americans, who have been deceived by that Communist front known as the ACLU, have overlooked the fact that the Government has no rights whatsoever in religious matters. But why would the leftist Jews of the American Civil Liberties Union want to destroy religion? Because people without religious morals are easier to dominate and less likely to rebel against oppression. Just ask anyone who has ever said anything against the Jews and you will certainly learn what oppression is all about.

  13. Doug's Gravatar Doug
    January 16, 2011 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

    LePen may have no animosity to the Jews but she may rest assured that Jews (American Jews at least) hold a great deal of animosity against the French.

  14. January 15, 2011 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Wrong, Severus. She is playing it smart. One step at a time, one enemy at a time.

  15. Realist's Gravatar Realist
    January 15, 2011 - 3:25 pm | Permalink

    The issue of which way Jews will turn is crucial. I saw a stimulating piece on this subject here:

    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      January 16, 2011 - 5:02 pm | Permalink

      I found the piece playing right into Jewish hands. This is my response to the Irish Savant (I question his self image) – Why would you want to ally with the Jews when you think they are *smarter* then the whites? Once the perceived is threat is gone they’ll simply start again undermining us. Screw them, I find Black much more trustworthy then Jews. Blacks (and other non-whites) are the ones we should ally with. And don’t worry, Blacks do not want their kids marrying White.

    • Helvena's Gravatar Helvena
      January 16, 2011 - 7:38 pm | Permalink

      Here is something you might find stimulating as well…

  16. Vik's Gravatar Vik
    January 15, 2011 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know about France, but here in America, it’s not a muslim, african, or mexican who want my home…

    • Gladiator's Gravatar Gladiator
      January 28, 2011 - 12:58 pm | Permalink

      and he’s a jew

  17. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 15, 2011 - 10:04 am | Permalink

    January 12, 2011 – 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Barbara, Read my comment on the Mark of Cain below.
    The Jews have been put out of 80+ countries. They brag about it. No one with any sense goes to war with them. They say that they can always hire half of the people in a country to go to war with the other half. They brag about it and they do it and they win.”

    These are the kinds of self-defeatist comments and the kind of loser’s mindset that whites must identify and disconnect from our white nationalist movement, if we are to defeat this enemy. These people are not supermen and they can be defeated, and by their obsessive lust to destroy White European people – they show us that they fear our race above anything else.

    We can do this, people. We obviously can’t count on Barbara or anyone who shares her pusillanimous and defeatist mindset – but, lets hope that these losers are a tiny minority among our people.

    After all, with today’s electronic technology – the crimes and evil deeds of this group of anti-white nation wreckers are being documented daily and never again will these jews be able to lay low for a few years after being given the boot, waiting for White gentiles to forget how subversive and corrosive they are, and then let them to sneak back into European nations and start their subversive and plundering process all over again. This time, mandatory courses in high school and college will be taught and future generations of whites will be fully aware of the reasons why this race of people can never again be permitted to reside inside any European nation.

  18. European's Gravatar European
    January 14, 2011 - 6:26 pm | Permalink

    When I think that Europe or Germany had to live with Orthodox Fundementalism for over 1200 years, I wonder what the US will look like in a 1000 years. The countries were internaly in war and unrest constantly, untill it became not managable anymore. I grew up in Europe after WWII and there were no racial wars. I had a socialy peaceful childhood. Now when I go for a visit, it looks like I am visiting a foreign country.
    The landscape and culture, of people and faces have changed so much.

    The Jews would have been isolated and hence reduced to impotence in the instance of a German victory in WWII.

    Something to think about – what is self-preservation, and how do we go about it, without being pushed to the brink, to war and annialating one another. There has to be a better way for all sides. Or is war, death, killing the other before they kill me/us, always the ultimate answer and solution.? What happend to reason and intelligence, to humaness, I bleed when you cut me, just as you will? How do we find an/the answer to the jewish question, and the unhealthy developent of Jews/Judaism and Isreal which is a problem in “How many Countries”? We did not find it to them, how are we going to find it with the Muslim nation among us and with us.? We mix and then what ever survives? Your mind can spiral down hill, and you can get depressed for lack of pleasing answer…. or just the thought of it….
    Maybe the ULTIMATE answer is: “THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH”. I don’t mean to give a pat-answer, I just don’t have any. But I appreciate everyones concern.

  19. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    January 14, 2011 - 2:35 pm | Permalink

    It seems walking to Canossa is the right direction.

    (I can’t find a statement I thought I’d read in this article, has it been edited ?)

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      January 14, 2011 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

      Sorry, the statement was actually in the Alternative Right article ‘The Wilders Syndrome Jews, Israel, and the European Right’

      It talked about Europeans realizing the necessity of deciding between strongly encouraging ( possibly even expelling) Muslims or the disappearance of white society . I’m afraid the prospect of that decision depresses me. it is just too depressingly unlikely that there will be the will or even desire to do the right thing. I hate to say it but a reduction of immigration and a modus vivendi with the millions already settled is the most that can be hoped for.

      (I am assuming Israel will not expel the Palestinians.)

  20. D.J Price's Gravatar D.J Price
    January 14, 2011 - 3:59 am | Permalink

    I 100% agree with the reply posted by user “Der Weisse Engel”. To try and “water-down” our Racialist Movement for the acceptance of the mass mainstream demographic, is also in my oppinion, a waste of time & a step in the wrong direction. It is, what it is. Just like National Socialist Germany as a racially aware State was/is, at the end of the day, our model Civilisation. The idea of white Activists/Nationalists shunning that model, is quite baffling.

  21. Bobby Fischer's Gravatar Bobby Fischer
    January 13, 2011 - 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Le Pen and her fellow European right-wingers are wasting their time trying to get Jewish support. They should spend more time and energy radicalizing working class White males.

  22. January 13, 2011 - 8:51 pm | Permalink
  23. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    January 13, 2011 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    “The good news is that LePen is getting a lot of publicity in the mainstream French media (…) The party is expected to get up to 27% of the votes in the 2012 presidential election”

    I think she has become popular because, unlike her father, she is allowed to speak in the media, and because she is not demonized by the media in the way her father used to be. The change probably doesn’t come from the population, but from the media.

    “the French Jewish community has also rejected her overtures and her pledge to “turn over a new leaf” by rejecting her father’s statements on the Holocaust and other aspects of history.”

    If so, how come she is allowed to appear in the media, and why is she not demonized as much as her father used to be? Maybe the Jewish community is divided. I don’t know why they were so hostile to her father. He was well placed to know the deal about Jews but he never said very much.

    I think the success of the National Front mainly depends on what the media and the government decide. For example, a few years after Mitterrand became president, as his popularity was waning, he told the French television to give Jean-Marie Le Pen some airtime. As a result, Le Pen’s popularity increased. Mitterrand’s plan was to divide the right. At the same time, the media organized a campaign to demonize both Le Pen and any conservative politician who would strike an alliance with him. Then, Mitterrand decided to introduce proportional representation in the French Parliament. As a result, the National Front got 35 people elected in 1986. But Chirac, the leader of the mainstream “right”, became prime minister the same year, and immediately removed the proportional representation system. Since then, the National Front has had between 0 and 1 representative in the French parliament. (source)

  24. fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
    January 13, 2011 - 7:44 pm | Permalink

    If there is ever going to be an honest resurgence of pro-European attitudes and political policies, it’s going to be in Eastern Europe, not western. The reason is because of the nature of the citizenry. Western Europeans, like European-Americans, have been intellectually and spiritually castrated by endless Jewish psychological bombardment since the end of WW2. Today’s western Europeans are every bit as selfish, materialistic, and short-sighted as Americans are. I don’t think any politician is going to change that.

    Eastern Europe, however, was closed off from western influence due to communism for decades. It may be open to the west today, but its people are every bit as patriotic, proud, and romantic as they have ever been. Also, patriotism in Eastern European nations has a far different meaning than in the US or Western Europe; Eastern Slavs regard patriotism in terms of ethnicity, history, and culture while western European/American patriotism is simply obeying the government and whatever insane policies it enacts.

    The point being, Western Europeans have been dominated, and nothing will change that. They’re beaten. The Slavs, though, have not. They know full well the brutality of Jewish oppression (the Lenin and Stalin years), something western Europeans do not. The Putin government was very brazen in combating Jewish corruption (the oligarchs), even amid the predictable wailing by the western media. Had someone like Khodorovsky been operating in the US, AIPAC and the ADL would have made sure he was never convicted.

    • ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
      January 14, 2011 - 6:06 pm | Permalink

      Eastern Europeans are a part of the immigration problem.

      The majority of immigrants to Sweden, Switzerland and Germany are Eastern Europeans (not Turks and Arabs as some of you think).
      They are not visible like non-European immigrants, but they give a large contribution to the de-Swedization of Sweden and de-Germanization of Germany.

  25. maxsnafu's Gravatar maxsnafu
    January 13, 2011 - 4:03 pm | Permalink

    …Dutchman Frits Bolkestein, “declared that the Jews in his country have to emigrate to Israel or to the United States because it is no longer possible to protect them.”

    That sounds like a declaration of war to me.

    • Dirk de Wit's Gravatar Dirk de Wit
      January 13, 2011 - 5:43 pm | Permalink

      The citation is incorrect. Bolkestein was talking about overt Jews. Overt Jews would be the first ‘victims’ of antagonized Islamic minorities. There is strong circumstantial evidence that Bolkestein is a covert Jew.

  26. michael's Gravatar michael
    January 13, 2011 - 11:56 am | Permalink

    The good thing about the French is their disrespect. They aren’t as indoctrinated as, for example, the poor Germans or Austrians who dwell under their hermetic cheese cover and believe every odious lie they are told by their criminal overlords. The French don’t care what the rest of the world thinks about them.
    A very recent sondage of the Nouvel Observateur puts Mme. LePen’s chances at 40%, with 22% disgruntled UMPs (or Sarkozyans).
    Vive Marine!!!

  27. January 13, 2011 - 10:42 am | Permalink

    Marine LePen sound like a good liberal Jew to me and I suspect there is a lot of Jewish money flowing her way. There is no harm in criticizing extreme Israeli behavior, that only makes one creditable.

    …People aren’t judged here according to their color or their religion, but according to their qualities.” – Well, that is pretty subjective, who determines what qualities? If race and/or religion are illegitiment criteria what are? and can’t those traits become out of bounce as well? Why not just accept that it’s OK to be intolerant, racist, anti this or that as long as that is what the majority of citizens think. Intolerance is intolerance, what good is just being a little intolerant, you’ll only appear as a hypocrite, it’s like saying you’re just a little bit pregnant. You might as well go whole hog.

  28. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    January 13, 2011 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    I see the rise in anti-Islam politicians as manipulation by the jew. They have come to fear too many Muslims in the West just as much as we do. Otherwise LePen and others like her would not be allowed.

    I may be very cynical but I don’t think any opposition to the jew world order happens if the jew doesn’t want it to happen. The only targets of non Whites in Europe are Muslims. In America the only people demonized by Hollywood and major media, other than White people of course, are Muslim.

    David hit upon the very reasons that I don’t like Steve Sailor and others who advocate for Republicans. The very thing that drives many White people into the Democratic party is the fact of republicans’ unqualified support for corporations and big business.

    Corporations are anti trust, are they not? They destroy competition and become so powerful they control everything. Yet you can count on republicans to support them no matter what.

    If we save ourselves we’ll be forced to go back to small farming and small business. That is the only way we can gradually get rid of the Fed, isn’t it? Don’t we have to re-create our economy? We can’t do that if corporations are international. We have to change our trade policies and we can’t make deals to build Toyotas here and Fords in Japan.

    • January 13, 2011 - 9:50 am | Permalink

      I’m not sure how much this will help, but…don’t forget Barbara, a lot of our behaviour is controlled by circumstances rather than intentions. Given that one class of behaviours can be highly correlated with others, and given that we tend to ‘silo-think’, many people (even very bright, well-educated) people, don’t make the connections. Thus, when someone suggests that they are doing X, they don’t see it, and either take offence or otherwise deny culpability. This happens an awful lot, because people naturally reason with psychological idioms. However, these are not referentially transparent (like logic or maths), but opaque. The classic case being Oedipus, who wanted a sexual relationship with Jocasta, but not with his mother. he didn’t know they were the same person (co-extensive, or co-terminus). People say, and do many things without fully knowing what they are saying or doing, as a consequence. As I say, because we do not always see ourselves doing things, we often truly deny we are doing them. This is a (major) problem with our common-sense psychology, and it’s why some behavioural scientists study psychology almost as a language of superstition. What if there are individual differneces in this awareness as a function of cognitive/language skills? What if there is a sex difference, and what if different ethnic groups vary in how much their males have feminised brains, and their females have maculinised brains (cf C6p21 and CYP21 genes apropos NCAH)? In the end, we’dl have to come to terms with diversity rather than attacking each other for behavioural differences which may be largely beyond our control?

  29. January 13, 2011 - 8:47 am | Permalink

    The Right-Wing is Libertarian (anarchistic = pro free (i.e deregulated) financial services/market) and Sharia (Islamic) Law proscribes interest bearing loans (riba). Given that European Libertarian economies need immigrants (because of their falling populations), but don’t want people who will breed more people who won’t borrow at interest, the Right-Wing must secularise (‘Westernise) Muslims through vilifying Islamic law. This, some politicians/bankers presumably conjecture, should liberate (seculairise) Muslim females, making them consumers/shoppers, unfettered by their males (as happened to Europeans from the 60s onwards). Presumably they also project that this will ease the threat to further property price falls (and thus reduced values of loans secured against property values, loans which drive the money supply?).

    Those driving this will, I suggest, be those in financial services, and they will ‘just be doing their jobs’, i.e doing their ‘fiduciary duty’ because of the contibgencies contolling their behaviour. Whilst Jewish people may well be over-represented in financial services (and support services), and thus disproportionately benefit from all of this, and whist that may well seem ‘unfair’ (if one is looking for equality across all ethnic groups), there will of course be many others doing the same, from Japan to Cape Town, and they won’t be Jewish. That is, this is more likely to be the Libertarian political economy per se which drives these behaviours. This is the bigger picture.

    • European's Gravatar European
      January 13, 2011 - 5:48 pm | Permalink

      Given that European Libertarian economies need immigrants (because of their falling populations), but don’t want people who will breed more people who won’t borrow at interest, the Right-Wing must secularise (‘Westernise) etc. etc.
      I like to know where you get this kind of information. You seem to be stuck on Libertarian political economy in Europe, which is none sense.
      Let me help you to move on: American Capitalism
      Gilad Atzmon: Milton Friedman’s ‘Capitalism and the Jews’ Revisited
      Monday, January 3, 2011
      Given the severity and uncertainty of the economic crisis we are all experiencing, I suggest we look once more at the work of Milton Friedman, the leading economist and a staunch advocate of hard capitalism.

      During the 1960s -80s Friedman was regarded by many academics, politicians and world leaders as the most important post- World War Two economist. Friedman was chief economic advisor to Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Menachem Begin. He also went on record advising the Chilean military dictator Augusto Pinochet.

      It is far from surprising to note that more and more commentators have realised in recent years that it was Friedman’s ideology and advocacy of free enterprise, zero governmental intervention and privatisation that has led to the current financial turmoil. It was Milton Friedman’s philosophy that also contributed to the transformation of the West into a service economy.

      But Friedman wasn’t just an economist: he was also a devout Zionist and a very proud Jew. Friedman was interested in the role of the Jews in world finance and politics. He also attempted to analyse and understand the attitude of Jews towards wealth. In 1972 Friedman spoke to The Mont Pelerin Society about “Capitalism and the Jews”. In 1978 he repeated the same talk, addressing Jewish students at the Chicago University’s Hillel institute.

      I’d suggest that Friedman deserves our immediate attention, since he contributed to the rise of an ideology and school of thought that bears some responsibility for the rearrangement (some might say dismantling ) of the West’s economy.

      Click to read more …Gilad Atzmon

      Kevins article is very insightful, and the political landscape in Europe should be closely followed, as it will effect the problems here in the US as well. I enjoyed reading it.

  30. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 13, 2011 - 6:30 am | Permalink

    “She claims that there is no anti-Semitism among the native French, that Jews are Frenchmen”

    This is the core of the problem.

    French nationalism has never been ethnic nationalism (unlike German, Polish, Serbian, Croatian, Hungarian, Romanian and Albanian nationalism), but just civic “nationalism” or patriotism.

    One can be a Jew and a Frenchman, or an Arab and a Frenchmen, but e.g. one can never be a Jew and a Russian (people in Eastern Europe would consider it nonsense).

    Maybe this is because many Slavic languages have different terms for members of an ethnic group and citizens of a state.
    For instance, in Serbian the term “Cрбијанац” is used to refer to the citizens of Serbia regardless of their ethnicity, while an ethnic Serb is referred to as “Cрбин”.

    France is going down the drain because of a very high rate of intermarriage between the immigrants and the natives.
    According to France’s 1999 Census, 30% of North African immigrants have intermarried.

    Even some prominent French “right-wingers” have non-White spouses.

  31. January 13, 2011 - 12:45 am | Permalink

    Given the lack of Jewish support, she has opted to take a position on Israel that is well within the European mainstream by emphasizing how intolerant and racist the country is. Such rhetoric fits in well with EU criticism of the Netanyahu government, the settlements, and the Gaza embargo and should resonate with French voters.

    Good point.

    To me when European right wingers support the most extreme people in Israel, like the settlers, it’s something that has a very real potential to backfire on them.

    People want to be represented by politicians who are within their general thought pattern.

    Being gung ho for Israeli expansionism isn’t something the average European understands or appreciates.

    Sure, the vast majority support Israel’s right to exist, so being against that would be at least as bad.

    But who says that the only two options are being against Israel existing and supporting the settlers?

    For some reason the European rightists other than Marine LaPen seem to think that way.

    It’s almost like their minds are too attuned to an all or nothing sensibility.

    This sort of sensibility can be deadly in politics given the tone deafness it so often leads to.

  32. Captainchaos's Gravatar Captainchaos
    January 13, 2011 - 12:02 am | Permalink

    Jewish power is wholly dependent upon manipulating the host population towards Jewish ends. The Jews would have been isolated and hence reduced to impotence in the instance of a German victory in WWII.

    • January 17, 2011 - 8:01 am | Permalink

      The way that modern narcissism/celebritism functions as a power in Libertarian democracies should perhaps be examined more closely and critically than it currently is, as we now have the Madison Avenue PR tails wagging the democracies. Populism is merley one form of (corrupted?) democracy, but is it leadership? Are politicians offering minimal government offering anything but anarchism? Is that their appeal?

      One should have known that we were in for trouble when the population was shown to be dumbing down according to many available measures (from ETS and others linked elsewhere, se Lynn’s review in the 90s). As to the non-shrinking Achievement Gap, what if the White population has been dumbing down too, masked by all the anti-racism and poor phenotype self-classification (e.g. up to ~2003 the US Census Bureau had conflated Hispanic with White). That so many demand that the majority be not just heard but given what they cry for (this is right-wing Libertarianism) should haved raised more concerns than it did. Think children (and permanently arrested cognitive development), and look to Third World countries where authoritarian government is often a necessity because of the demographics and genetically low literacy/numeracy rates. We are not all equals (genetically or phenotypically).

  33. Dirk de Wit's Gravatar Dirk de Wit
    January 12, 2011 - 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Geert Wilders is a former staffer of Bolkestein. Both identify strongly with the Jewish cause and there is strong circumstantial evidence that both are covert Jews. Bolkestein is the ’eminence grise’ of the Dutch right-of-center liberals, who now govern the Netherlands as the largest party in a coalition with the christian-democrats. Bolkestein let Wilders strike out on his own to harvest the discontent over large-scale alien immigration. Wilders’ ‘nationalism’, however, is limited to virulent anti-Islamism. Islam versus the West, the West versus Islam. And who are in the middle, trading one off against the other?
    So, when Kevin MacDonald concludes that “(o)ne can easily see the anti-immigration movement snowballing as Europe develops a renewed sense of cultural identity and confidence,” I wonder whether he is not being a bit too optimistic. The new euro-nationalism is being carefully managed in a bid to antagonize two groups of people for the benefit of a third people.

    • Cpt. Swindle's Gravatar Cpt. Swindle
      January 14, 2011 - 12:33 am | Permalink

      The mass brainwash is fading as the khazarians slowly lose their strangle hold over the flow of information reaching the mass man. The “Occidental” world has been fat, happy, and complacent, working long hours to buy meager toys oblivious to all else except making money to survive, working up to a level where we can then show off the plastic things we have traded our whole lives for. This era of consumerism is coming to an end gentlemen, and the time for behaving in a gentle “civilized” manner is coming to an end as well. The spirit of Oden will rise and reconquer soon enough. It is already stirring and growing stronger in the breasts of all our people. The zionists have always known this and this is why they have always been so paranoid and hateful towards us all. Their fiat money wont be able to hide them away much longer, and the rest of the rabble they have dragged into our countries will unfortunately face harsher circumstances then the dregs they crawled out of. When it comes right down to it you cant blame them for seeking a better life, escaping from countries the zionists have all but destroyed. The fault lies with us for allowing those of a far less noble and insidous character to out flank us while we distracted ourselves and allowed it to happen. Good will always prevail though brothers, of this you should have no doubt. Just be ready when Uncle Oden comes a callin.

  34. Curious Spectator's Gravatar Curious Spectator
    January 12, 2011 - 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Excellent article , the tools of the trade are knowledge. Finally the lights are coming back on all over Europe. Sadly Britain I think is a right-off , and one might consider it the incurable host from which this disease has spread .
    People need to comprehend that Multiculturalism is another attempt at Communism both of which are rehashing of religious ideas and one has to ask : If 3000 years of religion failed to produce perfect man how will multiculturalism? I suggest readers should have a wander around Wikipedia and look at the modern psyc-ops weaponry and realize that this new form of communism is going to be operated using a total surveillance and emotional modulation model-And as long as our Overlords know the dissenters (disbelievers) ,control is relatively simple.
    It will be fascinating to see how the Overlords react to this French attempted mass movement to reject Multiculturalism and the NWO.

  35. danton's Gravatar danton
    January 12, 2011 - 6:47 pm | Permalink

    How pathetic, these white european leaders, meekly going to israel to plead desperately before their masters…”wont you please talk to your european jews, and make them see that by flooding our countries with muslims they are hurting themselves too!…please! before the damage is irreversible…please!!!”…
    …absolutely pathetic………..we are finished as a people, the jews beat us long ago.

    • Der weiße Engel's Gravatar Der weiße Engel
      January 13, 2011 - 5:03 am | Permalink

      KMD: “Like Wilders, her objections to Islam are not phrased in terms of seeing them as racial aliens but as unwilling to conform to secular French culture. Distancing herself from the BNP, she claims the National Front is “neither racist nor xenophobic but simply a ‘patriotic’ party.” Islam is fine but Islamization is not. France is “one of the least racist countries in the world. People aren’t judged here according to their color or their religion, but according to their qualities.” Like Wilders, LePen comes across as a libertarian who advocates a meritocracy, abolishing affirmative action, and evaluation on the basis of individual qualities rather than group membership.”

      To think that the White race is going to be preserved without paying a heavy price and even without a widespread recognition of its importance is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way on earth that race will be preserved for long in a state that has an official policy of anti-racism, as do all states now except Israel. Of course, the only time Whites ever tried to establish a racial state was Nazi Germany, and the Jews, the ADL infiltrators, and assorted pants-pissers on this forum now find that “too scary” to associate themselves with. Yet once you rule out the only thing that could possibly work, what are you left with? You become like someone trying to add two plus two, having ruled out in advance that the answer could be four.

      It should be clear that this sort of thing will never go anywhere. The idea of trying to mainstream a racist cause by making it less racist is stillborn and worse than a waste of time. Every step taken in that direction is another step toward racial death. Either continue trying to radicalize the public and make them racist, or realize that it can’t be done and face the fact that a racist mass movement among Whites is impossible to construct in the current environment. If a mass movement is impossible, that’s not the end of the world. The alternative is saving Whites against their will, which will necessitate some innovative thinking and embracing a fresh approach; but I’m convinced it’s possible. In any event it should be obvious you won’t ever radicalize the public by becoming less radical yourself. In order for change to happen, the public must be moved in OUR direction, not we in theirs.

    • January 15, 2011 - 11:44 pm | Permalink

      Danton is either a troll or an idiot. The entire Z.O.G. is based on a hollowed-out, debt-driven economic Ponzi. When the base collapses, so will the political superstructure. It’s always darkest before the dawn, and the Jew has always ridden high…before taking a mighty fall. Look at Jews in Welhelmine Germany, c. 1900; look at them a few decades later. Keep the flame burning, do not despair.

    • Robert Mune's Gravatar Robert Mune
      January 16, 2011 - 11:39 pm | Permalink

      I totally reject your defeatism.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      January 17, 2011 - 11:25 am | Permalink

      I have no idea why the moderators keep scrubbing my response to Der

      …the only time Whites ever tried to establish a racial state was Nazi Germany…

      This is completely false. Over the last two or three thousand years there are been many nations that were explicitly White. Most European nations were all White or close to it and Australia had a “Whites only” immigration policy (or close to it) until the 1970.

      This attempt to privilege Nazi Germany as the model to be followed by those concerned with White culture is pathetic.

      I assume the moderators will scrub this comment too, while leaving the hateful anti-American rethoric of Der weiße Engel and Severus untouched.

  36. Steve's Gravatar Steve
    January 12, 2011 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    LePen has her foot in the door for the upcoming elections in 2012, and will have to tiptoe the Jewish gauntlet of political correctness to appeal to new voters. But with the masses having voted in the Jewish French president Sarkozy, they have a long way to go to come to grips with the force of Jewish ethnocentricity in their midst that’s perpetuating Muslim and African immigration to their shores. Even if LePen acquiesces to any future Jewish demands or quells the Jewish mindsets of doubts they harbor against her, the Jews will not relinquish any political gains of helping to reduce third-world immigration because their hatred towards Gentiles supercedes all. Nor does it seem LePen will kowtow as others have done. But the Jews will always be one step ahead, as here in the US, to dampen and contain Gentile awareness and patriotism with hate crime legislation and the omnipresent anti-semite trump card to be thrust into the mainstream arena by the Jewish controlled media.
    LePen and the French will have to scratch and claw their way to make any substantial gains to win their country back from the well organized, funded, and aggressive international Jew.

  37. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    January 12, 2011 - 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Countries like France, Portugal, Spain, Holland and the UK created their immigration problems themselves…

    The immigrants that are coming to those countries are mostly from their former colonies – their former subjects.

    France and England came to the Third World and now the Third World is coming to them.

    I feel sorry for the European countries that suffer from the immigration problem without their fault (like Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, etc.), but not for the ex-colonial powers that caused their own problems.

    • AWoLsco's Gravatar AWoLsco
      January 30, 2011 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

      I disagree totally.
      They wanted independence . They got it. We didn’t torch the place and for that they should be grateful.
      Consequently we owe them nothing. Absolutely nothing.
      They should never have been encouraged to come to this country(Britain). All this stuff about all “Romans” being able to move freely about the empire ,including return to the Capital, the heartland. Absolute humbug.
      “A nation heaping up its own funeral pyre” The words of an English, erstwhile Professor of Greek as I vaguely recall.
      Most prescient.

  38. Elizabeth's Gravatar Elizabeth
    January 12, 2011 - 4:07 pm | Permalink

    “Mark of Cain”
    Genesis 4:13-15 (King James Version)
    13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

    14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

    15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
    It is a mark that was put on the Scribes and Pharisees according to Christ. Cain killed Abel. Look at Verse 35 below.

    Matthew 23:29-36 (King James Version)

    29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

    30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

    31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

    32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

    33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
    Would they deceive us by saying the mark of Cain belongs on European Christians?

    • anthropos's Gravatar anthropos
      January 13, 2011 - 5:15 am | Permalink

      Elizabeth, since there were only four people alive on the surface of Planet Earth at the time, how can you be so sure that Cain represents Muslims or those who are not European Christians?

      I suggest a non-tribal explanation is better such that Abel represents those who worship God in the way he wishes and are, therefore, obedient to him, whereas Cain symbolises those who live as if the Judaeo-Christian God does not exist or that he does not matter.

      Maybe those who are totally taken up by human politics whether Muslim or from the Christianized culture are represented by Cain and the mark is, in effect, atheism, I suggest.

  39. anthropos's Gravatar anthropos
    January 12, 2011 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    I sometimes think that the superior being that hovers over Islam, presumably Allah, has a rude sense of humour. To get his devotees to upend their bottoms when praying to him is a religiously sanctified form of obscenity. As if it is necessary to worship a god in such a vulgar position!

  40. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    January 12, 2011 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    These people are never expected to assimilate in the United States, we’re supposed to adapt ourselves to their ways and if we don’t then we’re called racists.

    How could our people forget that we’re supposed to be a nation of One From Many? If they ever think about it then how can they not see that diversity will tear us apart.? We can’t possibly survive with every race seeking its own interests at the expense of the general welfare.

    jews are the prime exhibit number one that diversity doesn’t work and they showed us that with the passage of the 1965 Immigration Act which was for their benefit. What will it take to wake White people.

    Many people think that Whites can simply create a White region in the NW. This is risible. Don’t they realize that with the fall of the United States every other Western nation will fall and the world will then descend into chaos, revolution, continual war, disease, starvation and misery?

    How could we survive without gasoline or other fuel? We’d be living in the dark ages.

    In addition to that, the jews always kill off any intellectual elites in order to prevent the people from being able to save themselves. So what would we do without leaders, how could we create such a White country in the United States?

    It won’t happen. Perhaps when White elites realize they’ll be targets they’ll do something meaningful to get us to fight for what is ours and defend our country and drive non Whites and jews out.

    • Elizabeth's Gravatar Elizabeth
      January 12, 2011 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

      Barbara, Read my comment on the Mark of Cain below.
      The Jews have been put out of 80+ countries. They brag about it. No one with any sense goes to war with them. They say that they can always hire half of the people in a country to go to war with the other half. They brag about it and they do it and they win.
      They say they are 2% of our population. I am guessing it is a lot more than that but since they count themselves no on is certain.
      Go study their history and show me how many countries ever went to war with them and won.
      We are fighting them the only way they can be fought. We have laws against what they are doing to us. We have immigration laws and fraud laws and ethics rules and all sorts of things that we can use in this battle.
      They have worked their way into control of our money, government, media, legal profession, courts. and medical profession.
      Hitler is a fine example of the Mark of Cain. He had between 250,000 and 500,000 of them in Germany. He is supposed to have killed 6,000,000 of them and Germany is still paying repartions to 1,000,000 survivors of the camps. You see how it multiplies? God said sevenfold but it must have been at compound interest because it is a lot more than sevenfold now.
      You are worried about it and afraid of what is happening. White genocide is an awful prospect if you are white. I am, so I know how you feel. We need to do what has a chance of working and not just give them ammunition to kill us or put us in gulags because we run our mouths instead of our minds.
      Think about what you are saying that can hurt our chances of success and then think about what you can do that will really help.

  41. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 12, 2011 - 3:27 pm | Permalink

    This is a good development. The Right needs to realize they will not get the support of the Jews in the long run. Or if they do, it has to be on the Right’s terms, and when the Right has the power. I get the feeling that ever so slowly, even some Americans are waking up to the Jewish dimension our decline.

  42. Derry's Gravatar Derry
    January 12, 2011 - 2:43 pm | Permalink

    “It would then be a short step to the realization that some cultures are simply unable or unwilling to adopt contemporary liberal European values. ”

    Still I wish these people would stop talking about the failure of non-Whites to integrate with Whites, because if they succeeded in doing so, it would mean the end of our race.

    Of course no one is talking about racial integration in Africa, China, India, the Middle East, or Japan. Racial integration is only demanded of White countries and only White countries, so it is genocide.

    • Doug's Gravatar Doug
      January 16, 2011 - 2:43 pm | Permalink

      Derry, you are so right!

  43. JJ's Gravatar JJ
    January 12, 2011 - 2:07 pm | Permalink

    That picture of the people praying in the streets of Paris, are we sure they are not saluting the French people?

  44. Svend's Gravatar Svend
    January 12, 2011 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    An excellent development. If not for KMac, I’d never know that a light is on somewhere in the West.

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