Moral Choices

Kevin MacDonald


The recent TOO article by Dr. Lasha Darkmoon on Rachel Corrie is indicative of the emotional appeal of the Palestinian cause. There is a powerful moral message: An attractive young woman motivated by a sense of moral idealism brutally murdered while trying to help an oppressed people — people who are ethnically and religiously different from herself. On the face of it, it would appear to be a case of self-sacrificing altruism.

There are other similar examples of what Christopher Donovan labels the “Amy Biehl Syndrome,” after the young woman who was murdered by a crowd of South African Blacks she had come to help. This syndrome exemplifies the moral idealism that, while certainly not true of all Whites, seems to be far more common among us than other groups, quite possibly as concomitant of evolution for individualism among Northern hunter-gatherers.

The problem with moral universalism is that it makes it impossible to develop a similar moral sense on behalf of one’s people. As Westerners, a big part of our psychological baggage lies with post-Enlightenment universalist ideologies. They feel natural to us, whereas reasoning on the basis of what’s good for us doesn’t have any moral standing at all. It’s very difficult for us to get into the mode of “Is it good for Europeans?”

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Imagine this moral dilemma. Right now in Europe, quite a few politicians are getting on the anti-Muslim bandwagon. Many have made pilgrimages to Israel to express solidarity with the far right settler movement and its program of ethnic cleansing—the same people who have made it a point to make gruesome, bloody examples of people like Rachel Corrie. For example, Geert Wilders, while visiting a far-right, pro-settler member of the Knesset says that the Palestinians have a homeland—Jordan. In Israel, he was hosted by Aryeh Eldad, head of the Hatikva faction of the National Union Party, which opposes the creation of a Palestinian state and believes that the West Bank is part of Israel. Other anti-Muslim political figures (Heinz-Christian Strache, head of the German Freedom Party—quite possibly the next chancellor of Austria, Filip Dewinter, spokesman for Belgium’s Vlaams Belang party and a member of the Flemish Parliament, and René Stadtkewitz, a former member of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union who recently established the Freedom Party in Germany with an explicitly anti-Muslim, pro-Israel line) have traveled to Israel to express solidarity with the settler movement.

The implicit logic of this is that there is a natural alliance between anti-Muslim groups in Europe and the settler groups fighting to dispossess the Palestinians in Israel. One could therefore imagine in a very hypothetical world that the European anti-Muslim politicians would make a deal with the Jewish community in Europe: Support us in our campaign against Islam and we will support the settler movement in Israel. (Needless to say, other steps would be needed to remove other non-Whites from Europe.) This would mean that the organized Jewish community in Europe would end its promotion of non-White immigration and multiculturalism; they would exert pressure on Jewish political figures and Jewish-owned media as well, ostracizing them if need be. This would likely have dramatic effect on support for anti-Muslim parties in Europe, at least partly because it would disinhibit non-Jews, many of whom have been cowed into accepting the encroachments of Islam for fear of offending the post-Holocaust moral order that is vigorously enforced by the organized Jewish community and by Israel. For example, in 2000, Israel threatened to withdraw its ambassador if Jörg Haider joined the government coalition. The Mossad closely monitored Haider and in 2008 Israel expressed its concern when his party polled 29% in the Austrian elections, stating “We are very concerned over the rise to power of people who promote hatred of foreigners and Holocaust denial, and befriend Neo-Nazis.”  The assumption here, which I think is correct, is that the Jewish community is quite influential on all issues related to immigration and multiculturalism.

In fact, of course, the organized Jewish community and the vast majority of Jews have not supported these parties and are vastly unlikely to do so, preferring to support multiculturalism and massive non-White immigration in the Diaspora in the West while also supporting an apartheid, ethnonationalist Israel bent on ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. Although Geert Wilders was hosted by one pro-settler member of the Knesset, the other European anti-Muslim politicians were not hosted by any member of the Knesset. Nevertheless, it’s interesting to entertain the implicit moral trade-off. In a radio interview with Tom Sunic, I expressed support for an alliance with Zionists against Muslims. A comment on the Reason Radio website notes that “The remarks that MacDonald made during this show on the topic of Geert Wilders and Wilder’s support of Zionism have been generating some discussion around the Internet.” To my knowledge, these comments have been on email discussion lists, the main issue being the moral standing of supporting the Zionist program of ethnic cleansing.

When White advocates discuss how to accomplish their goal of repatriating the millions of non-White immigrants, the usual line is that repatriation would be accomplished without violence. Immigrants would be given financial inducements to leave (e.g., Geert Wilders) and governments would completely cease to subsidize immigrants with welfare, housing, or jobs.

It would be wonderful if it was that easy, and I certainly hope that a non-violent method could be found. But I rather doubt that this would be sufficient. Europe would still offer very attractive economic prospects compared to the Muslim immigrant-sending countries. The sheer number of Muslims (16,000,000 in the EU as of 2007) makes voluntary repatriation a financial and logistical nightmare. Even if further immigration was stopped, the high fertility of Muslims compared to White Europeans would mean they would become a steadily increasing presence and eventually a majority. (In the US, the numbers of non-White post-1965 immigrants (= 32.3 million) and their descendants number at least 50,000,000, making the problem even more intractable. As with the European anti-Muslim parties, voluntary repatriation with financial incentives is advocated by the American Third Position.)

Moreover, it’s unlikely that the immigrant-sending countries would want them back because it would produce further economic problems in societies with chronically underperforming economies. Further, just as in America where there are voices of Reconquista among the Mexican immigrants, many of the more radical Muslims see their presence in Europe as a divinely ordained beginning of the establishment of a Muslim Europe. They won’t leave without a great deal of conflict with the immigrants and the immigrant-sending countries.

And it’s obvious that the Muslims are not going to become good Europeans and simply submerge themselves in European cultures, start attending church, and identify with European culture and history. Just recently, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey, urged Turks in Germany to preserve their language and culture—to integrate but not assimilate. Not that Muslims in Europe need much encouragement to remain separate, given as they are to public displays of religious and cultural difference, not to mention calls for the establishment of sharia law in European countries.

So suppose that an anti-Muslim political party comes to power, say in the Netherlands. It really doesn’t matter if this comes about with the full support of the Jewish community and Israel which, as noted, is very unlikely. The point is that we have to suppose that Muslims will refuse to assimilate and they will refuse to leave voluntarily, just as the Palestinians refuse to leave the West Bank.

What’s next?

A crisis of Western universalism for starters. Universalism always presupposed substantial homogeneity, at least of culture and, quite possibly in the end, of race, given that universalism remains a uniquely Western creation. That’s why the ideals of the Enlightenment implied that Judaism would wither away and that Jews would commit to the atomized citizenship of an individualist culture without the primordial ties that have bound them together over the centuries. When this failed to happen, Enlightenment intellectuals like Voltaire became “anti-Semites,” and Jews, rather than giving up their groupness, eventually responded in three main ways: by promoting Zionism beginning in the late 19th century; by masquerading as leftist universalists while maintaining their Jewish identities, also beginning in the late 19th century; and by inventing multiculturalism as the new paradigm for Western societies in which groups could retain their culture, a movement that came to fruition in the 1960s. (The last two of these are themes of The Culture of Critique.)

We are how witnessing the failure of Muslim assimilation just as the last 250 years of European history has shown the ultimate failure of Jewish assimilation. Ultimately, Jewish intellectual and political efforts were aimed at changing the nature of Europe and developing a national homeland outside of Europe rather than at changing the primordial collectivist nature of Judaism. It is becoming obvious that multiculturalism is incompatible with Western universalism. They simply can’t both exist, at least in the aggressive form exemplified by Muslims in Europe and increasingly in the US.

So in the end, Europeans are likely to have to choose. In the same way that the Israeli right has chosen to expropriate the land of the Palestinians and to degrade their lives to the point that they voluntarily leave — perhaps followed ultimately with expulsion if the political climate is right, Europeans will likely have to choose whether to do the same. Granted that Europeans as aboriginal peoples may be seen as having more legitimacy than their opponents, it would still result in a crisis of moral universalism. The law of nature is expediency — whatever works, not whether one has lived up to an abstract idea.

According to a newspaper report, Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the US, in a recent speech in Colorado noted that “Coloradans and Israelis share a legacy as ‘frontier societies’ whose early people faced many dangers.” Philip Weiss comments, “Notice how Oren plays on the ethnic cleansing of the U.S., the unstated message is, ‘Hey you committed genocide, who are you to judge?’”

Exactly. Pretty much around the world, peoples have been displaced over the course of history. Europeans are now in the process of being displaced from lands they have held for centuries (the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand) or for millennia (in Europe). It really doesn’t matter if the displacement is the result of a military invasion or as a result of a war of ideas carried out by hostile elites that dominate the media and the political process. The end result is the same: Evolutionary death.

Surprisingly perhaps, some White advocates suppose that what they seek can be accomplished without violating universalist moral principles. But real life is seldom so convenient, and to survive it may be that one must reject moral universalism. Whatever works.

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186 Comments to "Moral Choices"

  1. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 3, 2011 - 5:35 pm | Permalink

    @Bigmo:
    You are mistaken about Dr. MacDonald. His interest is too highlight Jewish hypocrisy. Dr. MacDonald is fully aware that they are all semites and share a lot of DNA.

  2. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    December 3, 2011 - 5:12 pm | Permalink

    @Rod Mckenzie:
    In my darkest moments I am afraid you are right. The truth is we must prepare for ANY eventuality. In the worst case, total collapse, we will prevail because we are the most resourceful and creative- IF- enough of our men retain their masculinity in the face of the feminist assault. If I had only one bit of advice for young women it would be choose and defend the man who will kill or die for you and your children.

  3. April 7, 2011 - 5:27 pm | Permalink

    As illustrated in another article,women`s emotional altruism makes them particularly likely to engage in humanitarian activities that endanger the future of whites(like adopting non-white babies and engaging in mixing,because its the “right” thing to do.Women must be shown their error and made to realize the implications.They need to know that their first duty is to their own race(which is already under attack)not non-whites in a 3rd world country.And as we`ve seen,these non-whites are often very hostile to whites and do not want their help.

  4. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    April 6, 2011 - 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Rehmat,

    When you say Shariah law gives rights to everyone and so on. You have to understand that how the Islamic religion understands equal rights is somewhat different than how a Westerner understands equal rights. Sharial law emerged during the 9th century during the Abbasid era. The goal here was to create a theocracy to compete with the Byzantinians who had a powerful Christian theocracy of their own. Without a theocracy it was hard to have a unified empire as the Abbasid quicky found out. Shariah law as I see it is part of that history and it to me is the various influences from Judaic, Persian to Byzantinian that came to the early Muslim communities. Because Muslims allowed themselves to be influenced by their surrounding, the Abbasid was a very succesful empire and achieve great economic and cultural achievements and was at one time the dominant empire. Great acheivements in science and philosophy. But that was the past. Today Muslims seem to me as trying to find solutions by looking at their past and not the world around them. The reason Muslim are attached to this Shariah law is they see it as Muhammedan. They are told its “Islamic”. But Western historians do not see Shariah as Muhammedan. They see it as a later development. But this is an academic discussion, it has no relevance to how the world thinks and operates. Western societies moved away from 9th century theocracy ever since the French revolution and are not going back anytime soon.

    So we have a conflict here. This conflict makes assimilation very difficult as the case with Jews in Europe. They are still following the Babylonian Talmud that emerged in very different circumstances than what we have today. The idea was to create a Judaism that isolated the Jewish communities from the paganism of Babylon and its pagan culture. This isolationism though useful in protecting Judaism from pagan influences somewhat, is now a reason for lack of Jewish assimilation.

    There is nothing called Judeo-Christian. Its Judeo-Islamic. The concept of dual revelation (the written and oral laws) is what defines Judaism and Islam hence the very obvious similarities. One is deeply ethno-centric, the other is deeply sectarian. Both are very legalistic and ritualistic and both rely on oral traditions that play a more dominant role than the scriptures, ie the Torah or Koran. Christianity is structured very different and I believe it is why it was easier to have a Christian reformation. Anyways America is not Judaic or Islamic. Its Christian with a very strong reformation tradition. Judeo-Christian as a terminolgy never existed in history and is part of the post ww2 cultural make up. That cultural make up is not based on actual history but on Jewish activism supported by Western guilt and insecurities.

    Wandrin,

    Yes you are right the same logic can be applied to diversity and counter diversity. There is ample evidence that humans were created to be part of ethno groups and racial groups and share similar genes and cultures. But at the same time as humans we can mate with one another and produce off springs from different races and ethnic groups inter marrying. So it can work both ways although racial similarities are by far the dominant in human life. I think people should have a right to chose and Americans have the right to defend their ethnicity and culture. I don’t believe that its a sin to mingle with other ethnic groups but its also not a sin to chose not to. Most people around the world are ethno-centric and tribal and sectarian. Some more than others depending on their upbringing.

  5. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    April 6, 2011 - 11:25 am | Permalink

    Bigmo – Let me understand you – You mean while the Westerners or Christians live in Muslim or non-White countries – they do it for earning living – but when Muslims or other non-white immigrate to the West – they come to have sex with white women? Were you talking about Europe or Israel, where 5000 White Christian women are sold annually to Jews as sex-slaves?

    Islamic Shari’ah is divine law for the Muslim-majority, as the Judeo-Christianity is law in the western countries and Talmud in Israel. Under Shari’ah – every citizen, both Muslims and non-Muslims have equal rights, except if the later, like Jews, maintain their loyalties to a foreign country – then those non-Muslims are required to pay ‘Jazia tax’ which is much less than the ‘Zakat tax’ of 2.5% on net savings, every Muslim citizen has to pay.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/zionists-myth-of-radical-islam/

  6. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    April 4, 2011 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

    @BigMo
    “This is not some Universalist Moralism, this is selfishness and hypocrisy. Plus there is little in Western history to tell me of some universal moralism.”

    Universalist morality doesn’t have to be “good.” It just has to be internally consistent, be capable of being applied universally and contain a principle that laws can flow from.

    “Diversity is Good” is universalist in that it can be applied universally and it’s a morality in the sense that laws about what is “good” and what is “bad” can flow from it.

    “Diversity Kills” is universalist because it can be applied universally and it’s a morality in the sense that laws about what is “good” and what is “bad” can flow from it.

  7. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    April 4, 2011 - 2:05 am | Permalink

    Rehmat,

    I am not sure what the zionist fifth column has to do with me but I don’t see the world from a single point of view. Yes many Christians live in Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries. Every one has to make a living and you don’t chose whare you get your providence in life. In the end people are looking for jobs. I am not saying that the Middle East is not liveable but I am saying that the overall Muslim culture as it is is not always in conformity with Western livestyles. Many Muslims want Shariah law in their lives and for most Westerners they don’t want this Shariah law. Now I am not saying that all Muslims think like that but the majority do. There are different interpretations in Islam as their is in Judaism but the Pharisaic Judaism(Talmud) and the Sectarian Islam(Hadith) is the dominant one. These religions have evolved to be extremely legalistic and ritualistic. Judaism in an ethnocentric context while Islam on a sectarian context. Its my beliefe that this legalism has made Jewish assimilation impossible and its my belief that Islam is headed the same way. I maybe wrong but from the looks of things it seems this way. I am not saying as some here do that someone is good or bad and neither am I like Macdonald who throws blanket stereo types on Muslims or others. I don’t believe in this Western moralism stuff also. Macdonald never minded when the Jews were displacing the Palestinians all this years and he was a huge admirer of Jews and Israel. So was David Duke. Its only when they discovered that Jews were also displacing White Americans did they changed this admiration. This is not some Universalist Moralism, this is selfishness and hypocrisy. Plus there is little in Western history to tell me of some universal moralism.

    I don’t see the wrold as black and White and anyways this topic is about how Whites feel and not how Muslim immigrants feel. Whites have a right to defend their culture don’t they? Ethnicity is a big part of culture.

  8. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    April 3, 2011 - 4:59 pm | Permalink

    “Fact is the REST of the world KNOWS tribalism is where it is at”

    Fact is if all the Aryan tribes decided tomorrow we needed to conquer the rest of the world to ensure our survival it would take about ten years – maybe less. This is true because we are different and that difference allows for more efficient large group co-operation.

  9. Wandrin's Gravatar Wandrin
    April 3, 2011 - 3:56 pm | Permalink

    “some White advocates suppose that what they seek can be accomplished without violating universalist moral principles. But real life is seldom so convenient, and to survive it may be that one must reject moral universalism.Whatever works.”

    This may well turn out to be true however,

    Diversity Kills is a universalist moral principle. If the moral person has a duty to promote the common good and diversity kills then the moral person has a duty to oppose diversity.

    Also universal moral principles are compatible with hypocrisy. The public code must be universal and internally consistent but privately people can think differently. For example, separate but equal. Most of the people who used that principle in the past didn’t actually believe it but it satisfied the itch for many, if not enough.

    What i mean by this is some people need a reason and some need an excuse. I don’t believe White people are universally universalists. I think there’s a spectrum. Some are fully ethno-centric and at the other extreme some are fully universalist. However i think there’s a majority bloc in the middle who are a bit of both. With this group the part that is naturally ethno-centric is out-voted by the universalist trait but it’s still there, hence White flight.

    So the holy grail is not neccessarily to find a fool-proof universal moral principle that allows us to avoid our own genocide – which in theory if not in practice is already provided by the multicult itself (hence Bob Whittaker’s Mantra idea). Practically speaking the grail is finding a universal moral principle that is functionally identical to simple ethno-centrism that the people in the middle can use as an excuse.

    It’s only people like me at the far end of the universalist spectrum who need a *reason* for ethno-centricity and “Diversity Kills” works for me (although there are probably better alternatives).

    As you say “whatever works” (for different people).

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      April 4, 2011 - 7:43 am | Permalink

      Of course diversity doesn’t work. Everyone is racist. At the beginning, any mother who wants to have her own children instead of adopting is a racist, since she cares more about people like her than others. I told this to my mom, and she said, “Well, some women are actually like that.” I said, “You have seen a lot of white couples adopt black babies. Have you EVER seen a black couple adopt a White baby? What about all the poor White babies without a home? Surely there are well-off Black couples to adopt them.” She did not accept this argument.

      I felt personally pretty burned, given the implications of what she said. But I don’t take it personally. It’s all talk. Momma still luvs me.

  10. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    April 2, 2011 - 9:03 am | Permalink

    Bigmo – Stop learning world history from Zionist filth. Saudi Arabia has 54,000 Western Christians employees inside Saudi-Aramco compound c/w bars, cinema, church and brothel – something for which Muslim Saudis would be stoned to death.

    Hindus workers, from India, Sri Lanka and Nepal can be found in every ME country – from Jordan to Libya.

    My point of view was even confirmed by no other than Professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan (Hebrew University), in her address at the European Parliament, 2005 – when she said: “The so-called free world is affraid of the Muslim womb”.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/israeli-mother-who-refuses-to-shut-up/

  11. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    April 1, 2011 - 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Bigmo – The major reason the Judeo-Christian Zionist are affraid of Muslim population in the US, Canada and especially in Europe – is their fear that Muslim presence will expose Zionist lies about Islam and the Jewish imperialism in Palestine.

    Muslims are in majority in the West as compared to the Jews but the later are supported by the Muslim-hating Christian zionists. Muslims, though greater in numbers – lack both political and economic clout in the West. In the US, for example, Muslims out-number Jews by 3 million but there are only two Muslim congressmen – both Afro-American converts and even one of them is openly pro-Israel. Contrary to that – Jews have 14 Senators and 23 Congressmen – backed-up by over 90% of the both Houses.

    One out of every six Frenchmen is Muslim – but no Muslim in the French parliament. Germany has four million Muslims but no representation in parliament or government. Holland is the only western country where Muslim presence can be seen in the governance secter.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/american-muslims-terrorism-and-israel-lobby/

    • Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
      April 2, 2011 - 2:06 am | Permalink

      Rehmat,

      I highly doubt that. The reason many Europeans fear Muslim migration is the fear of their loss of their culture, identity and way of life. The same fear as Saudi will feel if millions of Hindus will migrate and hold citizenship there and changing the Islamic culture and identity of Saudi Arabia. Many people in the UAE and Kuwait have also fears about their identity given that most people there are non locals. However in the UAE and Kuwait these migrants from India and Bangladesh and other Arab countries do not hold citizenship and have very limited rights.

      This is a very normal feeling that people have. People have a right to protect their identity and culture. Islam is not a religion that went through any reformation and it remains steeped in its 9th century cloak. Many aspects of it as it remains today conflicts with many values Europeans cherish. In this I have total agreement with Macdonald and others. Even if a “Europeanized” version of Islam dominates Muslim lives in Europe it will still create identity problems for many Europeans as most Muslims are not of European ethnicity anyways. However I still believe the fear of immigration in Europe is over blown. Maybe the future trend might see an increase of migration to Europe. However the Nationalist in Europe want a 99% indigineous population or they are just making a lot of noise. In Holland Muslims are barely 5% and this Wilders guy is running aroung talking as if the Muslims have reached 20% or more. Numbers matter here.

      In America the picture is very different. As we speak, every baby born in America is 50% non White at the least. This is a very dangerous situation and would have a huge impact in changing America and nearly everything in it. This usually happens to nations when they get invaded or conquered and even then its never that dramatic. In fact its a colonization. BUt in America the Muslims are negligeable. So I am not sure what all this Islam talk is really about. Not always, but there is a connection between pro Israel and anti Islam rhetoric. I am in fact seeing some of that from the Nationalist in Europe. It makes we wonder as the Nationalist movements grow whether Jewish actvist will try to recruit some of them and channel their energies to Muslims. The Jews do not worry about Muslims in the West. What theyw ant is for Europeans to fight wars for Israe. All Israel’s enemies are Muslims so it makes sense to them to promote an anti Musim rhetoric. Nearly all the people in America who support Israel have very strong anti Islam attitudes. Polls have shown this time an time again. They are the ones who will support any war with Syria, Iran or Lebanon.

  12. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    April 1, 2011 - 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Maybe there is something else at work apart from universalism. There is the old Western idea that morality is a invincible ‘super good’ and a value beyond contingency; nothing bad can happen to a truly good man. So I think the modernist outlook is that universalism can not go wrong in the long run, for them even if the west fails to sustain its social order the future will play out as a rationalist fantasy.

  13. Lisette's Gravatar Lisette
    March 31, 2011 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Lew said:

    “Beyond opposing the Jews who seek to use Western financial or military resources to subsidize Israel, I don’t see a compelling reason for White racial Nationalists to oppose Zionism in the Middle East at all. Jewish activity that does not impinge on White interests is not our problem.”

    That’s not quite true, Lew. When the Jews take over the Middle East, they will take over oil production. That will definitely affect us.

  14. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 31, 2011 - 9:56 am | Permalink

    Maybe the reason why the Jews focus on Muslim immigration is because they know its not going to do anything about immigration. Jews do not care about immigration to Europe and as I have shown the numbers there in Europe regarding immigration is afraction of that in America. Jews care about themselves in America. Its America where they want to create a multi-cultural society.

    All this talk of Shariah law coming to America are promoted by the same Israel firsters who brought us Iraq and now Libya. How can Shariah law come to America? There is only one Muslim congressman in the whole US congress and even he is actually Black. And they are telling us Shariah law is coming to America?

    All this Geert Wilders stuff is all distractions. The total Muslim population in Holland is 5%. They have no influence whatsoever in Dutch society and in fact are lower class. I am not sure what 5% can actually do. France which has the highest Muslim population is 10%. This number is high, but its cucumbers compared to the situation in America. Plus many of these Muslims in Europe are not even citizens and recent trends is showing that the Muslim population by 2030 in Europe might actually be only 8%. There are probably more Christians in Egypt than that. Of course these numbers could be wrong, but I fail to see any real change in European society and with all these Muslim there the policies of Western Europe is still pro Israel. To be an effective minority you have to be at least 20%. Maybe the trend will show that Islam will increase, but I do not think so. Who knows.

    But America is another matter. From today onwards every child born in America is most likely not White. Think about that.

  15. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 31, 2011 - 6:56 am | Permalink

    My problem with Macdonald’s Islam argument is that it is not relevant to what he stands for. Currently in Germany Musoims are less than 5.4 % of population. In USA they are about the same or even less. They have no real influence in any of these societies.

    Its all hot air. Meanwhile Whites in USA are now reaching just 60%. So why bother talking about Islam? Plus Europeans do not seperate too much between Easter European immigration or Africans. They are used to being homogeneous. America is made up of many European nationalisties and includes some Africans and Natives who were there from long ago.

    There is a large amount of Hispanics(non Muslims) and Asians(non Muslims) in America. These two demographics are growing fast in USA.

    So why waste time talking about Islam?

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      March 31, 2011 - 8:22 am | Permalink

      I was at a shuttle stop yesterday, and literally at least 20 people were either waiting there with me or had walked by. And there was only 1 other ethnically American person the entire time, a young woman. I tried to point this out to her, but she was completely glued to her cell phone. She was practically hypnotized.

      On the shuttle, I ran into two Indian people discussing their admittances to medical schools, debating which one they ought to attend. I tried to engage them in conversation, but they just stuck up their chins and pretended I was below them. A Jew was watching me from aside, smiling connivingly. Welcome to the new America.

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      March 31, 2011 - 8:26 am | Permalink

      There were at least 5 different ethnicities there, Black, Asian, Jewish, Indian, American. Of these, only the American wasn’t racist. She was busying herself idly engaged with her big African boyfriend (ok, speculation) on her cellphone.

      How the hell is it even possible to fix this?

    • Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
      March 31, 2011 - 9:13 am | Permalink

      “So why waste time talking about Islam?”

      Because the Jewish fear Islam, and the Jewish are at the core of the why and how of mass 3rd world immigration, therefore a ‘situation’ is created around Islamic immigration, that needs to be understood. KM is right to be focused on this matter, but he would be the first to admit it is possible he hasn’t yet perceived the true nature of the situation. This is why it is worth discussing.

      My angle is that Jewish activists have already shown how fearful they are of continued mass immigration from the Islamic world, because they have been at the heart of attempts in the US and Europe to demonize Islam thus engender an environment where Islamic immigration becomes a politically acceptable debating point. Thus far agreement probably with KM.
      But what I think is that the only reason the Jewish diaspora won’t openly support anti-immigration views toward Islam is because (a) they probably calculate they don’t have to overtly support it for the hostility to grow and grow and (b) the views of the diaspora cannot be changed over night, even by core Jews.

      What we really need to be considering is what the Jewish will do if Muslim immigration carries on? I think they would ultimately be willing to engender an environment for a resurgence in European ethnic/cultural identity.

      Whether I’m right about that or not, we need to start waking up to the fact that this Muslim issue, because of the Jewish fear around it, could be one of our last and potentially most powerful hands to play. But we have one helluva fox to outfox, and so far we aren’t even in the game, because we don’t even recognize there is a game to play.

    • Athanasius's Gravatar Athanasius
      March 31, 2011 - 9:46 am | Permalink

      The Jews do not fear Islam in the least. They are excellent at playing off of the Arabs’ vanity, which they been doing for centuries.

      If you are familiar with the ancient Middle Eastern trait of speaking out of both sides of one’s mouth, you will clearly see that the Jews praise the Arabs precisely because they don’t respect or fear them. They hate and fear Europeans and so they do everything in their power to undermine them. You won’t ever hear a Jew with a good word to say about Christianity.

      Allowing Muslims to propagate in our countries is a death sentence–and the Jews know it.

  16. Doug's Gravatar Doug
    March 30, 2011 - 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Like war, we cannot know how all this will turn out. I take comfort in one thing: the historic ferocity of the collective White man when driven into a corner.

  17. Pax Europa Forever's Gravatar Pax Europa Forever
    March 30, 2011 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    The quickest and easiest method to get remove Muslim Arabs from Europe is to give all of them a pistol, rifle, body armor/helmet, and send them to Israel and New York City to fight ZOG. Muslim families who acquiesce to send their sons to fight Israel and New York Jewish “intellectuals” would be recipients of generous monetary compensation and repatriation back to their homeland (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Palestine, …).

  18. iboTTs's Gravatar iboTTs
    March 30, 2011 - 8:01 am | Permalink

    I’m glad you remarked on the Corrie incident because I was like mega confused!

    Rachel was brave as hell, she really put her money where her mouth is, but I still think the Cosmopolitan/Lamarkian/Liberal zeitgeist had a lot to do with making her so concerned about out-groups, and less concerned about her own group.

    Our Individualist/Universalist dangerous ethnic trait that we inherited from our Teutonic ancestors isn’t all that. There isn’t many White girls who would follow Rachel’s path – they care, but they don’t care enough to risk their own lives. If Rachel was a Lamarkian, then had she been a Darwinist she would still be alive. And seeing how the Jews won the battle over the construction of culture, and the new culture they implimented was/is out-group/Cosmopolitanism, it’s not surprising that we have White girls like Rachel and Amy sacrificing themselves for out-groups.

    TT

  19. Spectator's Gravatar Spectator
    March 30, 2011 - 7:35 am | Permalink

    “Muslims will refuse to assimilate and they will refuse to leave voluntarily, just as the Palestinians refuse to leave the West Bank.”

    The trouble with this attempted parallelism is that the Palestinians were the indigenous settlers, while the Israelis are the imperialist conquerors. Whereas the Muslim population of Europe (aside from odd groups like the Bosnian Muslims, descended from the heretical Bogomils) is a very recent (post-WWII) addition.

    While I have enormous respect for the work Dr McDonald has done and continues to do, I think he has made a potentially catastrophic blunder in this whole “you can oppress Palestinians to your heart’s content so long as you cease to support the displacement/genocide of whites” meme that he has taken up recently. It stinks.

    First, “moral universalism” is as it does. Whites do tend to root for underdogs, and it is right and proper we should abhor Israeli treatment of Palestinians. So, morally, the policy is a non-starter.

    Second, it has zero chance of affecting Israeli policy. They are already oppressing Palestinians, and already supporting our displacement/genocide, and doing very well on both fronts (from their point of view). Why should they care what a small (as yet) minority of awakening whites thinks?

    It is a serious blunder-in the-making, masking itself as “realpolitik”. Please re-consider, Dr MacDonald.

  20. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    March 30, 2011 - 5:43 am | Permalink

    Kevin Macdonald wrote “But real life is seldom so convenient, and to survive it may be that one must reject moral universalism.Whatever works.”

    Kevin – Something incongruent was that in making your point – which was essentially that in the coming storm we’re going to have to choose between abstract principle and survival – was the way you felt the need to preserve moral consistency by giving some slack to the settlers given they are doing what our descendents will have to do.
    But this inbuilt need for us to be fair and consistent is surely the why and how it came to be we are now within sight of our own demise? Why is it necessary to cut slack to the settlers when as it happens their atrocities seem to be acting as a mass wake up call to whites as to the true nature of their Jewish cousins?
    Another point about this Muslim problem is that we need to recognize just how desperate the core Jewish activists are that the West be prevented from becoming Muslim. They are desperate. The fact that diaspora groups haven’t caught up with this fact is because it takes time for ideas to be programmed through the Jewish diaspora. They aren’t a big con machine promoting ideas they dont’ believe in. Their power is that their ordinary folk do believe and just don’t recognize the contradictions.

    The really powerful strategy regardarding Muslim immigration would be to do everything possible to resist anti-Muslim arguments, because in accepting them we are massively underplaying our hand and misreading just much the other side are willing to sacrifice to stop the West becoming Muslim. This slight new margin of freedom we are allowed to speak ill of Muslims but only Muslims, are mere scraps on the table. If that strategy didn’t work for the other side they would go further. Ultimately, if they had to, they would begin to help pave the way to a partial reawakening of European ethnic identity. Because for them, anything is better than a Muslim West. Even that. They feel they can control us. They feel they could subvert a fledgling racial identity much more easily than bring down the monolithic Muslim one.

  21. (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
    March 29, 2011 - 8:05 pm | Permalink

    You know? I think one of the biggest problems with attacking a nation by usurping it with nubile hostiles is that it is very counter-productive for the environment. So, how exactly do we counter this problem? I mean 45% of all the children in this country under 5 are not de-facto Americans. So do we simply slaughter them all? But that would be atrocious. Do we concentrate them somewhere and seal them off? Well, isn’t that what Mexico was already there for?

    No, it seems the only solution to this problem is for us to have tons of children, more than the minorities. And this is just bad for the environment. I mean, how can we have any sort of meaningful system of conservation or genetic progress when all our efforts need to be funneled into building a counter-army? And you better bet that transforming the genetic character of this land into that of the Mexican one is not progress, of any sort.

    Yet, luckily for the minorities, even this strategy appears futile. We have one particularly viruluent minority, Jews, mind-controlling many of our women into forgetting their duty to the next generation. They vomit on their own honor, often even prefering Black men for “husbands” (yeah right). Many Americans, both men and women, do not want to reproduce because “there are already too many people,” even though there are not already too many White people. In fact, there are far too few.

    Ultimately, the White racial consciousness has an encephalitis. We have a disease of our intelligensia, and they are called the Jews. There are some good ones, sure. But as a collective, they are our mortal enemies. For thousands of years our two peoples have been slaughtering each other. And now the Jews finally have our entire population by the balls. We didn’t even notice because we were either too greedy or too nice.

  22. mark's Gravatar mark
    March 29, 2011 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    From:
    The Hitler Youth (Origins and Development 1922–45)
    By H. W. Koch
    Copyright 1975 by H. W. Koch
    This addition published by Barnes & Noble, 1996
    ISBN 0-88029-236-9

    The author speaks about the utopian daydreams that the German youth had, ideas about world citizenship and brotherhood they had developed from the French Revolution. However, the emergence of Napoleon and his forces crossing the Rhine river and imposing his will on Central Europe, and horribly abusing the German youth, was a rude awakening for them and the ideas of individual and national survival started to take hold. Power asserted itself and the lofty ideals from the Sturm and Drang period proved to be too weak and ineffective. They needed a new ideological weapon.
    ***********
    On page 4, and in the first paragraph, the author, H. W. Koch, writes:

    “In fact an ideological weapon that could be used against Napoleon was already at hand. Quite unconscious of the purpose to which it would ultimately be applied, the philosopher Johann Gottfried Herder (1744–1803) had already forged it into his concept of the Volk. While to the rationalist of the Enlightenment societyis the sum of its members, to the religiously-inspired romantic the members dissolve into the whole, into the community. The community, be it religious, be it national, was considered to constitute a natural organism, and in national terms this organism, in Herder’s view, was the Volk. Herder argued that the individual can only fully realize his potential within the Volk, just as the Volkcan only fulfill its God-given mission as the equal of other national communities — other Völker. Without his Volkthe individual is nothing, any more than the Volkis anything without its state. Hence in Herder’s view the realization of the Volkcould in many instances only be achieved in opposition to the existing state – supposing the state did not correspond with the true interests of the Volk– and especially when that state was occupied and dominated by a foreign power. This kind of religiously-inspired patriotism tended to transform all rational aspects of politics into what Hegel later called a ‘stew of the heart’. Yet in spite of its inherent emotionalism, the political situation of the German lands during the first decade of the nineteenth century compelled many Germans to give serious thought along the lines proposed by Herder to the structure of the state, once a truly national community had been achieved.”
    End of quote

  23. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 29, 2011 - 7:51 am | Permalink

    Scathack,

    Relax! Did you watch the link I gave about Shelby Steel? You should.

  24. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 29, 2011 - 6:47 am | Permalink

    Jason speaks,

    You seem to be talking about average Black folks. We are not talking about average Black folks. But of all the ethnic groups out there, Blacks won’t leave. They have no were to go. They have no sub culture oitside the America experience. They are Americans. But to this day, I have not heard a definition of what it is to be American. Europeans are different. The Nationalist in Britian and France despise Romanians and Gypsies and Russians in their land as much as they do other ethnicities. They have a homogeneous society from start. But America was always centered around three ethnic communities.

    As far as IQ, I don’t believe in IQ or Darwinism.

  25. visitor's Gravatar visitor
    March 29, 2011 - 12:13 am | Permalink

    to bantam:
    thanks. i see it’s on the torrents, too.
    http://is.gd/uyGSro

    • visitor's Gravatar visitor
      March 29, 2011 - 12:21 am | Permalink

      to pae:
      great analysis, and what timeless wisdom from cicero.

  26. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    March 28, 2011 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Thousands of Libyan refugess are flooding into Italy as a result of yet another war fought on behalf of Israel by “NATO”. They have the patter: “we are looking for freedom and democracy”. It’s not the Libyans who should be launching a revolution against their leaders but white Europe and America. The muslims are still producing men with cojones we are not!

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 28, 2011 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

      These Muslim men with “cojones” are often motivated more by desperation than any true courage. Hopefully it won’t take such desperation to motivate Whites. But the fact that most Whites are still comfortable plays a big role in their complacency.

  27. Pax Europa Forever's Gravatar Pax Europa Forever
    March 28, 2011 - 2:58 pm | Permalink

    I meant this comment to be alone and not a reply to another comment, so I’m reposting it as a standalone piece:

    When we ruthlessly self-examine ourselves–and find the results unsatisfying–we are merely doing the Jews’ work for them.

    Traditional competitors or enemies of Whites–Asians and Arabs–never have and never will attempt to convince us that we’re guilty of some monstrous crime against humanity merely for warring or competing with them. Not because such sneaky Bernaysian psych-ops are beyond their intellectual abilities, but because such Jew panther-games are largely alien to them. Nevertheless, convincing White Europeans that something intrinsic in our nature (Christianity) is diseased and evil at the core has been the Golden Road to riches, influence, and domination for Turk-Khazar Jews for thousands of years. The dividends of Jewish group evolutionary strategy could have never been so consistently lucrative had not White Europeans been gifted with the innate qualities of conscience and mercy.

    We’re better than them, we always WERE. But if we continue to despise ourselves for that which makes us better than them, we will BECOME THEM. And then the ballgame will genuinely be over. There is no way out but through the Jews. They have placed themselves in front of all paths to our salvation. We have the upper-hand because truth is on our side, and if there is a God, he is on our side as well. By working with the rest of humanity, whether it is Asians or Muslims, we can turn the tide in our favor. Once the Jews are gone, all of the other non-Whites will simply be dealt with easily.

    • Pax Europa Forever's Gravatar Pax Europa Forever
      March 28, 2011 - 3:06 pm | Permalink

      Traditional competitors of Whites are Asians and Arabs, and they have never tried to subvert our nations from the inside, external threats are easily defeated because Whites recognize them. We beat the Japanese in World War II, we could’ve took out China after WWII, but General Douglas Macarthur was reprimanded by the Jew puppet President Harry Truman.

      Internal threats such as the Jew are more dangerous than external threats such as Arabs, Mexicans, or Asians. Even though you may say that Mexicans and Arabs are flooding our nations, and are inside our communities, they are in fact nations within nations. They do not pretend to be ONE OF US, like the Jews do. At least, not yet.

      Marcus Tullius Cicero (58 BC) Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator:

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

      http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Marcus.Tullius.Cicero.Quote.B6EA

  28. John boye's Gravatar John boye
    March 28, 2011 - 1:44 pm | Permalink

    I can hardly believe my eyes! MacDonald proposing an alliance with the Zionists in support of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in return for Jews abstaining from the immigration debate? Has he become a Shabash goy? And this…”The point is that we have to suppose that
    Muslims will refuse to assimilate and they will refuse to leave voluntarily, just as the Palestinians refuse to leave the West Bank.”
    The Palestinians won’t leave the West Bank – or any other part of historic Palestine – voluntarily because it is their ancestoral home. The Jews have invaded it! Their case Canmore be compared to the immigrants of Europe! The whole piece reads like something Alan Derschowitz might argue. Please tell me I haven’t misunderstood MacDonald all these years!

  29. WNaTion's Gravatar WNaTion
    March 28, 2011 - 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I’m new here and I don’t mean to have a bad start already. But the “division bell” appears to toll quite loudly. and that plays right into the hands of the “enemy”. We need to learn to put White Nationalism above anything else… or fail.

  30. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    March 28, 2011 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    How long it will take White Christian Americans to understand that Afro-Americans have no real power in the US or Europe. The so-called ‘Black leaders’ are in fact the puppets of Jewish-controlled lobby groups. Whether it be Rev. Martin Luther King, Gen. Collin Powell, Condileeza Rice, Susan Rice, Barack Obama, etc. Even Jewish politicians among Democrats, Republicans and Tea Party – are aware of the fact that ‘Obama is the first Jewish President of USA’.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/obama-the-first-jewish-president/

  31. Praxis's Gravatar Praxis
    March 28, 2011 - 10:43 am | Permalink

    “Praxis is a disgruntled machinist who believes money is the root of all evil.” -CaptainChaos

    Close but no cigar, Cap’n. But you’ve made the local news for getting into drunken rows with Dear Ole Dad, who’s upset that his ‘underemployed’ son combines Jack and the wearing of German military jackets with playing Net Nazi on the keyboard.

  32. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 28, 2011 - 9:34 am | Permalink

    Daybreaker, I see ur point. But there is nothing Blacks want anymore. They got what they want. But Black support can make it easier for Whites to join in. There are Nationalist who want an exclusive White state. They place Blacks in the same category as the immigrants. When I say Blacks, I mean those who trace their roots to America and not recent African immigrants.

    Maybe Blacks also do not want immigration? Blacks did not support the 1965 immigration act. In fact Blacks more than Whites suffer from immigration. But it does allow the charge of racism to die out and it does allow US history to be used as an authority. A Nation of European citizens but with a Black and Native minority who trace their roots to 16th and 17th ecntury America. An exclusive White state is unrealistic and can lead to civil war and more importantly can not be intellectually defended regardless of how hard some Nationalist try to do.

    Thats at least my 2 cents.

  33. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    March 28, 2011 - 8:16 am | Permalink

    Bigmo: “Whites will never flock to any movement that makes them feel uncomfortable.” … “I believe that Americans will only follow movements that Blacks approve of.”

    I hope that’s not true, because if Whites can only follow Black-approved movements there’s no point in talking about American Whites making moral choices. They’ll be led around by Blacks and used for Black ends, and given Black attitudes to Whites, Whites won’t survive. The future of America will be to become Haiti, but bigger, and with nukes.

    There’s no practical point to arguing about a future like that.

    I think every useful discussion has to begin with three assumptions in our minds:
    1. We choose to survive. (And we are right to do so.)
    2. We have, or we will have, meaningful choices. There will be a time when our right or wrong ideas will have consequences.
    3. We will have a chance to survive. It may not look like it now, but there will come a time when we will at least have a roll of the dice.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 28, 2011 - 7:02 pm | Permalink

      Who decides what Blacks approve of? Is it Blacks? Again, let’s be honest, we are dealing with a low IQ group of people. The vast majority of Black people give no serious thought to any social issues. The vast majority of Black men are not even interested in raising their own children, so how serious is their role as “conscience of the nation”?

      We all know that it was Jewish groups that used Blacks as a front to help themselves. It was primarily Jewish Communists that promoted the Civil Rights movement, as a way of promoting Jewish interests and promoting socialism.

  34. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 28, 2011 - 5:52 am | Permalink

    Sam Davidson brought a good point. But also history plays a role. The Jewish success has been made possible by attaching themsleves and their agenda with the civil rights movement. Thats why cticism of Jews or Israel is easily labelled as racist and bigotry. Blacks have been a very useful tool for Jewish activist. The idea is to present the Jews as victims of racism and intolerance. Americans have never been able to find a way to confront their own history. This made many Americans vulnerable to charges of racism. I really thought after Obama became President that will end (the stigma). But it seems that many Americans still are reluctant. Thats why I find the argument Macdonald presents as problematic for most Americans. Whites will never flock to any movement that makes them feel uncomfortable. Macdonald is very articulate and precise when he talks about Jewish actvism. But he tends to be careless when he talks about other groups. The reason I think is he knows the Jewish establishment will jump at him with half the chance. But his talk about Blacks and Muslims is not as careful. He also knows like Geert Wilders knows that anti Muslim rhetoric will reward him as most of Israel’s enemies are Muslims. Blacks also do not have the same influence as Jews do in America. I believe that Americans will only follow movements that Blacks approve of. There is too much history there. Many Whites have no problem with NAACP and etc. So why should Blacks have a problem with a White advocacy? Trying to please Jews or Muslims or Mexicans is a waste of time. Its not in their interest to oppose immigration. But should they matter? Blacks are not immigrants but its precisely that relationship between Blacks and Whites that shapes the race dialogue in America. Thats what the civil war was about. immigrants are aliens and are not supposed to be part of ANY debate about America. They are not Americans.

    There ia a very interesting topic about this by Shelby Steel, a conservative Black intellectual. He talks about Obama but also about how Black and White relations shape all other race relationship in the US. And talks about the pcychology of Black actvism (playing on White stigma about their past). He was wrong on Obama but he was wrong because Obama was raised White and not Black. His father was not an American. Best speech I heard about race so far is this short lecture.

    http://fora.tv/2008/01/18/Shelby_Steele_on_Why_Barack_Obama_Cannot_Win#Shelby_Steele_on_Racial_Masking

    • March 28, 2011 - 11:27 am | Permalink

      ‘I believe that Americans will only follow movements that Blacks approve of.’

      How does the Tea Party and its proxy Republican take over of the House of Representatives work in this analysis then? Blacks and the NAACP went crazy yelling ‘RACIST’ at (mostly White) Tea Partiers and they didn’t seem to back down and go ‘oh we need to vote for Democrats instead’.

    • Scathach's Gravatar Scathach
      March 28, 2011 - 2:36 pm | Permalink

      Bigmo: “Whites will never flock to any movement that makes them feel uncomfortable.” … “I believe that Americans will only follow movements that Blacks approve of.”

      What a crock! That is absurd. What kind of sand is your head buried in?

  35. visitor's Gravatar visitor
    March 28, 2011 - 4:16 am | Permalink

    to neola:
    thanks for the tip. it’s difficult to find anything even vaguely compromising to jews coming from hollywood. now hollywood has enmeshed itself in real life, and that’s a real worry.
    http://is.gd/y35ubS

  36. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    March 27, 2011 - 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Gregor:

    “Clytemnestra, it’s occurred to many that the Tribe has designs on far more than their current (undefined) borders. It’s occurred to many that they want the Ersatz Israel as TERRITORY between the Euphrates and the Nile.

    “But has it occurred to more than a few that what the Tribe IS is a kind of network not limited to a single spacial place, and their real goal is much bigger? They want, via their criminal network, to have access to the whole WORLD, and to suck it dry for their “chosen” benefit.

    It’s a mistake to think they just want more territory in the ME. They want their networked “order” to collect the resources of the whole planet into their laps, and make us all slaves to that network.”

    Gregor,

    Again, that is why it is imperative for WNs to find common cause with Muslims. The ME is the single largest source of oil right now. If the Israel is permitted to absorb the rest of the oil-rich countries, then the Jews control all the oil which is, like it or not, the life’s blood pumping the economies of the world. It’s bad enough that they control the money.

    I am not crazy about the Muslims, but the only thing they have in common is their religion. They can blather all they want to about having a global caliphate, but they have tribal, racial, ethnic and sectarian divisions of their own. They will be at each other’s throats in no time.

    In the meantime, every single country needs to get as energy self-sufficient as possible. Americans, in particular, need to get over their NIMBY syndrome and accept that oil we drill here, drill now is the only thing that is going to save the country. First of all, buying the oil we produce here is one way of staunching the money hemorrhage we are experiencing from buying everyone’s stuff but our own. Second, we have something of value to trade for the stuff we buy. Third, we produce high-paying jobs which generate high tech clean-up jobs which produce more retail jobs to sell stuff that hopefully will be made here by folks who won’t poison us with toxic chemicals like the Chinese do. Last of all, if WE don’t drill off our coastlines, other countries will.

    But the point is, this is not just a European issue. It is an Asian issue, it is an African issue, it is a Muslim, issue, it is a Christian issue, it is a Buddhist issue. ALL of the races of the world dropped the ball by allowing a tiny minority to control all the money in the world. It behooves ALL the races of the world to join forces to keep oil and other commodities from being centralized into the hands of that same minority.

    Right now, everything we have seen going on for decades now is centralized control of everything. Family farmers are being pushed out of business to be replaced by large agribusinesses. One area will be reserved for sugar, another area for corn, another area for cotton, etc. When Israel absorbs the ME do you think other countries will be allowed to drill for their own oil? The time to act is now!

    We have to flush GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. down the toilet. We need to push for massive decentralization. We must advocate local and/or national control of every commodity that is out there. Then we must all take back control of our money.

    We either stand together or we fall together and the place any White Nationalist with a brain must start is finding common cause with the Muslims. Right now, White Christians have not only marginalized themselves, but have sat on their hands while they watched a huge segment of White Christians be hijacked by dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. As a White woman, it would suck to live under Shariah law, but I believe Whites have a better chance of survival even as Muslims, because it is a global, multiracial, and tribal religion that can provide a united front in face of the greatest threat to real freedom in our time.

    • Pax Europa Forever's Gravatar Pax Europa Forever
      March 28, 2011 - 2:56 pm | Permalink

      When we ruthlessly self-examine ourselves–and find the results unsatisfying–we are merely doing the Jews’ work for them.

      Traditional competitors or enemies of Whites–Asians and Arabs–never have and never will attempt to convince us that we’re guilty of some monstrous crime against humanity merely for warring or competing with them. Not because such sneaky Bernaysian psych-ops are beyond their intellectual abilities, but because such Jew panther-games are largely alien to them. Nevertheless, convincing White Europeans that something intrinsic in our nature (Christianity) is diseased and evil at the core has been the Golden Road to riches, influence, and domination for Turk-Khazar Jews for thousands of years. The dividends of Jewish group evolutionary strategy could have never been so consistently lucrative had not White Europeans been gifted with the innate qualities of conscience and mercy.

      We’re better than them, we always WERE. But if we continue to despise ourselves for that which makes us better than them, we will BECOME THEM. And then the ballgame will genuinely be over. There is no way out but through the Jews. They have placed themselves in front of all paths to our salvation. We have the upper-hand because truth is on our side, and if there is a God, he is on our side as well. By working with the rest of humanity, whether it is Asians or Muslims, we can turn the tide in our favor. Once the Jews are gone, all of the other non-Whites will simply be dealt with easily.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 28, 2011 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

      What do the Muslims offer us as far as any “common front” in concerned?

      Muslims/Arabs tend to be a low IQ lot, somewhere in the 80s. I don’t see any strategic intelligence at work there. Secondly, it seems like a real danger to be associated with a highly unpopular group in the US, at least among the Whites that we could reach. The kind of White person who is open to White Advocacy is seldom a Leftist or pro-Muslim. White Nationalism is already edgy enough in the social sphere, does some vague alliance with Muslims among the White public?

  37. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    March 27, 2011 - 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Interesting article at Counter Currents – http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/03/rockwell-was-right/

    Read it to see the answer to MacDonald’s opinion about our moral choices. Its not about choices we make, its about the elites’ refusal to do anything to stop jews.

    Read it and then tell me that the following idea is not a way for us to ACT rather than TALK.

    My state representatives have a bill that has my state printing its own money – or getting rid of the jew Fed. Now tell me we can’t get rid of the jew one institution at a time in this manner. We have to have courageous people at the state level, like in Arizona. State by state we can do this. Crossing my fingers that this passes into law, in spite of the media propaganda against it.

    • Curt's Gravatar Curt
      March 27, 2011 - 5:05 pm | Permalink

      Your state printing its own money? That is amusing. Let’s see… the last nation to attempt that was Yugoslavia and what they got for that attempt was the UN going into their nation (under the pretext of “helping” the poor Croat muslims) and pounding that nation into destitution. After which they split it into several pieces (reminds me of Germany after WW2). No, Barbara not only will this NOT be passed (or if it even is, it will simply be declared to be in violation of the US Consitution by the dweebs in the Supreme Court) and there will be dire consequences for those state reps who had the temerity to get idea into motion. The Fed is the heart of the beast. Do you think they are going to let anyone attack that?

    • Jake's Gravatar Jake
      March 27, 2011 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

      Just in case it is missing from anyone’s pocket copy of the Constitution of the United States, the tenth and final section of Article I thereof reads, in full:

      “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

      “No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it’s inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul [sic] of the Congress.

      “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”

      As my dear old Contracts professor used to say: “Hey, I don’t make all of this stuff up!”

  38. Analogy: Cancer-eating Rash vs. Cancer's Gravatar Analogy: Cancer-eating Rash vs. Cancer
    March 27, 2011 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

    One group is cancer. One group is a rash that eats cancer.

    If cancer has developed into a life-threatening stage, people will accept the use of a destructive method that also happens to kill the cancer (i.e. chemotherapy, or in this analogy, a cancer-eating rash).

    In Palestine, rashes are our ally.

    In Europe, rashes are not our ally because the body is covered more in rashes than it is engulfed by cancer (or rather, using more rashes will not stop the cancer, but only lead the body closer to death). It is not possible in Europe to use “chemotherapy” because of the balance of rashes and cancer.

    In the USA, there is just a tiny rash compared to Europe. In the USA, the rash is our ally against the deep and widespread problem of cancer in the most important bodily organs. A major problem in the USA for “chemotherapy” is that cancer, affecting the brain, has subverted the mental faculties towards fighting rashes in OTHER nations, who are actually enemies of cancer, not enemies of the USA. So the USA finds itself fighting rashes across the globe, when it is dying a slow and painful death by a ravaging form of cancer.

    The enemy of your enemy can be your ally, but NOT your friend. An ally is very different from a friend.

    An ally is a temporary confederate, while a friend has a specific and durable interest that is inherently in common with your own interest.

    We don’t want rashes in White nations, period. We don’t want cancer in White nations, period. However, there are times when a temporary alliance with a rash can be beneficial, in order to save a body from imminent destruction via cancer.

  39. Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
    March 27, 2011 - 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Rachel Corrie is a symbol of Jewish double standards – if she was a White women killed by Muslims while trying to save brown Christians, or Jews, the Jewish left and the Jewish media would have treated her as a great martyr. Yet because she tried to save brown Muslims from Jews, she is attacked viciously by these same Jewish leftists and the Jewish media.

    The double standard of “Israel for Jews, America for everyone” needs to be harped on continuously. Is this not perhaps what the pro-Zionist anti-Muslim European parties are doing? Put the Jews in a position to choose – either a Jewish Israel, or a multi-cultural Europe and America.

    We know they won’t choose – they want both – so that hypocrisy – that chutzpah needs to be constantly pointed out.

    You’ll notice that Rachel Corrie got it. Most likely, the European anti-Muslim parties get it. So it’s time for us to get it.

    As for an “alliance” with Muslims against our fellow Jewish enemies; no such thing is really possible, for obvious reasons. Muslims want their own nations – and also ours. Muslims are really just another kind of Jew.

    The situation in America and Europe is quite different – Muslims are not the demographic threat in America they are in Europe (mestizos and others are). But America is being used to attack Muslims around the world.

    Europe can focus on Muslims and America can focus on Jews and their third-world puppets.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 27, 2011 - 7:53 pm | Permalink

      @ Rich Pearson

      As for an “alliance” with Muslims against our fellow Jewish enemies; no such thing is really possible, for obvious reasons. Muslims want their own nations – and also ours. Muslims are really just another kind of Jew.

      Tsk, tsk, I don’t agree with you. There are three significant ways in which Muslims are NOT another kind of Jew”:

      (1) Muslims tend to have very strict moral values, especially when it comes to sex. For example, female modesty in dress matters to them. Hence the long dresses and veils. The Jews are the polar opposite.

      (2) Unlike Jews, Muslims are SYMPATHETIC to Christianity and have a soft spot for Jesus and Mary who are venerated in the Qur’an.

      (3) Muslims have no interest in taking control over the media and have never expressed an interest in world domination. (Except for a few extremist hothead fundamentalists).

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      If Muslims are swarming into Western countries, it’s only because EVERY citizen of Third World nations — not just Muslims — gravitates to where the wealth is. Indians, Mexicans, Vietnamese, they ALL want to emigrate to America or Europe.

      This is only natural. Poverty gravitates toward wealth as the moth gravitates toward the flame.

      Another point you must bear in mind is this: war is the engine of multiculturalism.

      If you bomb Vietnam, as America once did, you make life impossible for the Vietnamese and they all come to America for a better life.

      Why do you think you are now getting so many Muslims in America and Europe? It’s because you are BOMBING THEIR COUNTRIES!

      YOU ARE CREATING REFUGEES!

      Millions of Iraqis have had to flee Iraq because of American bombing of Iraq. Millions of Afghans have had to flee Afghanistan for the same reason.

      Surely you can see the causal connection between WAR — which leads to REFUGEES — which in turn leads to INCREASING EMIGRATION to the safer, unbombed countries

      Moral: if you don’t want Muslim immigrants, STOP BOMBING MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!!!

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      March 27, 2011 - 8:57 pm | Permalink

      Anonyma, I don’t disagree with you about Muslims in general , and I couldn’t agree more with “war is the engine of multiculturalism.” I simply mean that it’s far more important for Whites to make alliances with each other before we start making alliances with sympathetic Muslims or Jews or others.

      In a geo-political sense, if I were the senior policy planner for USA, I’d take a line similar to what Clytemnestra says above, or try something like Bush Sr. “put Israel in its place, make deals with Arab oil powers” approach. But obviously, I’m not, so my opinion is mostly irrelevant on that.

      Moral: if you don’t want Muslim immigrants, STOP BOMBING MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!!!

      Could not agree more. I want Muslims to have their own nations and live at peace with us Whites in our nations.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 27, 2011 - 10:23 pm | Permalink

      I’m confused by the statement that the reason we have Muslim immigration to the West is because of US foreign policy and our military actions in the Middle East.

      I thought France had developed a program decades ago to forge alliances with Arab countries and had encouraged immigration to that end long ago. It was also my understanding that most of the immigration to Europe was fueled by a desire for cheap labor, and again pre-dating any or the USA’s wars in that region.

      The Muslims I know (mostly in IT departments) were here before 9-11. They were from the upper IQ strata and had college degrees, and companies were short IT people and wanted anyone they could get.

      Are refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan a significant portion of the immigrant population in the West?

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      March 28, 2011 - 8:47 am | Permalink

      I’m confused by the statement that the reason we have Muslim immigration to the West is because of US foreign policy and our military actions in the Middle East. … I thought France had developed a program decades ago to forge alliances with Arab countries and had encouraged immigration to that end long ago. It was also my understanding that most of the immigration to Europe was fueled by a desire for cheap labor, and again pre-dating any or the USA’s wars in that region.

      Colonial powers in Europe moved from military colonialism to economic colonialism. You’ll notice that European nations have these immigration deals with their former colonies. The economic arrangements and the cheap labor are products of military conquests, the wars. Every time there is a war, we import some x number of displaced to Europe or America for humanitarian reasons.

      Some might disagree with this analysis, but it’s hardly new or novel.

  40. Jupiter7's Gravatar Jupiter7
    March 27, 2011 - 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Palin knows exactly what she is doing. No one should try an whitewash this vicious ass wiggling traitor. Sarah Palin is very enthusiastic-openly so- about slaughtering economically redundant Native Born White American Youth in the Middle East for greater Israel..and this is the crucial point. It goes well beyond the Palestinians who I could care lees about. Does the Native Born Christian Americam-Israeli alliance include a complete cut-off of all economic and military aid to Israel. Why do we need the approval of the Israelis to exist at all?

  41. Noela's Gravatar Noela
    March 27, 2011 - 11:13 am | Permalink

    Regarding the “exposé of the russian jewish crime network (hollywood’s “russian” mafia)”, check out this video:

    Israel: The Promised Land for Organized Crime
    Part 1 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FdVck03_vc
    Part 2 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZOfDE2Y4lE
    Part 3 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgSvyFlggJs

  42. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    March 27, 2011 - 9:54 am | Permalink

    Macdonald is becoming harder to distinguish from the Neocons. He seems to talk the same but he applies it now only on immigration and not foreign policy. But in doing so he is going to make his message harder to get through.

    He also has a tendency to exaggerate Western moralism. Jewish activist do not see the West that way and it is not certainly that moralism that makes Jewish influential in Western society. Sarah Palin and Joe Biden do not follow the guidelines of the Israel lobby out of some moral calculation. Its based on individual interest. Its hard to reconcile individualism (selfishness) with morality.
    Macdonald also tends to downplay European history and it seems now tries to over play Muslim history and society.
    He seems imprest with how Israel is suppressing the Arabs. But the only really reason they are so far able to do is Western support for Israel. With these revolutions taking place in the Middle East it will be interesting how Macdonald will shape it. But it definently never fitted his analysis. I see the Nationalist movement as becoming more Neoconish. They have not been able to have a ground to stand upon. They seem to now abdocate force removal But in doing so they must also put in their account that Whites might not win this.

    But one thing I learned from these latest developments is that its not that hard for Jews to control Western minds, even for someone as educated and as researched as Macdonald.

    • Sam Davidson's Gravatar Sam Davidson
      March 27, 2011 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

      Analyzing our own failings and their exploitation is a legitimate and even necessary(!) action. (However unpleasant it may be.) What Dr. MacDonald seems to be doing is the beginning of a process of understanding why most of the West was so incapable of stopping small groups of foreigners from accumulating critical amounts of power and influence.

      In my view, moral universalism is more important as a political afterthought. Modern regimes appeal to moral universalism to defend their actions, but there’s usually an underlying layer of simple self-interest. The people who really do engage in acts of selfless altruism and suicidal behavior tend to be a small and deviant minority within our race. I think a better explanation is institutional weakness… Western institutions have proven ridiculously easy to infiltrate and manipulate.

  43. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    March 27, 2011 - 9:13 am | Permalink

    How much of a “moral choice” do we have considering all of the jew cultural engineering and psychological warfare against us?

    We can’t defend our sons who are slaughtered in jew wars. We can’t defend our daughters who are conditioned as we are to go out of their way to prove they’re not racist. In situations where they would say “no” to a White boy they must pause before saying no to a black.

    More and more we see White young girls with blacks or Mexicans.

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      March 28, 2011 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

      “More and more we see White young girls with blacks or Mexicans.”

      ——————————————————————————–
      Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and
      Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)
      “Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      (a) Killing members of the group;

      (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

      (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

      (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

      (e) [b] Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [/b]

      I consider this to fall under part e) of the international law on genocide. Those women are choosing to have sexual relations outside of their nation because they are given the false belief that we are all the exact same people. Sure, we are similar. But we are also different, too. And everyone is allowed to love who they are.

  44. Aryan psychoanalyst's Gravatar Aryan psychoanalyst
    March 27, 2011 - 7:13 am | Permalink

    I think we should drop whatever reactionary tone that still remains and openly acknowledge that we are an oppressed group, and that the supremacist Jews are the number one oppressor group. Let’s make the rational, empirical, and not least the scientific case that this is so. Let’s empathize that we’re the most empathetic, compassionate, and universalist population group, but we’re woefully unprepared, allowing the group with the most opposite characteristics to spiritually rape us.

    We also need to develop a very strong culture of critique – focused on critiquing the culture that actually needs critiquing most. Fortunately we’ll be able to use reason and science in our psychoanalysis.

  45. Aryan psychoanalyst's Gravatar Aryan psychoanalyst
    March 27, 2011 - 6:57 am | Permalink

    Prof. KMacD:
    ‘The problem with moral universalism is that it makes it impossible to develop a similar moral sense on behalf of one’s people.’

    Does it? How about we identify what is good for Aryans as what is good for humanity, making a scientific case in support of the premise? That is, how about we argue in favor of Aryan survival and prosperity in universalist terms? As you realize, Jewish hyper-ethnocentrism did not develop through reason or science. Why would we want to copy such an irrational, unscientific, stunted and utterly un-European form of tribal-ethnic consciousness? Unless they become extremely afraid due to a depression or disaster off the scale, I seriously doubt that yet another “Judaism for Aryans” is going to appeal to the vast majority of Whites.

    • (elite institution coward)'s Gravatar (elite institution coward)
      March 28, 2011 - 3:40 pm | Permalink

      I agree fully. I don’t know where K-Mac got the idea that it is not moral for us to defend ourselves. I mean, self-defense is never immoral. That is why if you kill someone in self-defense, you can get off no time done. But if you kill someone because you wanted his property, then you get 25 to life.

      We DO have a moral right, no, a moral obligation to defend ourselves. If not for self-interest, then for the interests of the children who are ignorant of this entire situation who are, for instance, in danger of ethnic cleansing in the American Soutwest. For our brothers. For our Fathers whose sweat and blood went into their preservation of posterity.

      People should not be allowed to move in among another nation and reproduce in order to take over. This is tantamount to invasion! We have the moral right to retaliate. We have, at this point, the moral right to reduce foreign reproductive rates in lands where our own rates have been slashed by hostile powers. We have the right to defend ourselves from crime and ethnic conflict. We have lots of moral rights. A random genocide is not among those. If it comes down to it, sea of blood or ethnic cleansing from our own homes, God help us.

      But for right now, we just need to defend our right to exist. And reactions to hostile forces are certainly not immoral. For instance, it woud not be immoral to send back the 20 million illegal immigrants, revoke the citizenship of anyone advocating Atzlan or something similarly treacherous, segregate ourselves, militantly defend borders, etc.

      In fact, the only thing immoral about this whole situation is the usurpation of our land by sneaky, lying foreign invaders who are pretending to be multi-culturalists or even pretending to love America in order to serve a hostile ethnic interest. I am talking about the Mexicans. I am talking about the Jews.

      “Fight We Must For Our Cause Is Just”

      I don’t see how that does not apply to our collective racial conscious being robbed of its property.

  46. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    March 27, 2011 - 6:20 am | Permalink

    MacDonald should stop mentioning Geert Wilders in the context of European survival.

    Wilders is a liberal (his problem with the Muslims is their opposition to feminism, homosaxuality and, of course, Israel), and he has explicitly said that he is not right-wing. He called the BNP “racist”, etc.

  47. mark's Gravatar mark
    March 27, 2011 - 5:15 am | Permalink

    Lew said on March 27, 2011 – 12:40 am

    “Regarding potential alliances…..”

    Thanks, Lew, for your post. I agree completely.

    I’ll add that when this war is over it is my hope that there will not be a single Muslim anywhere on this planet.

  48. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    March 27, 2011 - 4:03 am | Permalink

    Very well said Lew.The enemy of our enemy is really NOT our friend!Muslims openly talk about taking over the West by higher birthrate,conversions and the introduction of Sharia.They are one of the LEAST assimilable immigrant groups and their young men are notorious for gang-raping.They see their behaviour as part of their age-old JIHAD to conquer the world for “Allah” . They are as much our “allies”as are the invading Mexicans.They should all be repatriated.Then ,if they stay in their own lands,we can trade with them if need be and we can stay on friendly terms.They can however be of NO help in the pursuit of our own ethnic objectives.

  49. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    March 27, 2011 - 12:40 am | Permalink

    Regarding potential alliances with the Zionists or the Muslims, I would argue that the best interests of our people will be served by nationalists 1) unequivocally opposing Jewish and Zionist influence in our own native lands, and 2) dropping this foolish, unreciprocated sympathy for the non-White Muslims and the Palestinians.

    The Palestinians are not our people, they don’t live in Europe, and the biggest obstacle to White survival is Jewish influence in our own native lands. Accordingly, the top priority needs to be opposing Jewish influence here, and in Europe, in our own backyards.

    The reason the Palestinians and the Muslims condemn the Zionist Jews is because the Jews are at war with THEM not because the Jews are war with US. Given that no Palestinian or Muslim leader of any significance has ever expressed a shred of sympathy for our cause, there is no credible evidence they care that the Jews are at war with us. Accordingly, these ongoing expressions of sympathy with the Palestinians and the Muslims amount to nothing but another expression of misplaced White altruism.

    The best course of action for nationalists is to aggressively oppose Jewish influence in OUR OWN native lands, where OUR interests are at stake. This would mean opposing AIPAC and other Jewish groups that try to steer Western funds and resources toward Israel but not because it helps Israel’s enemies but rather because eliminating these wealth transfers is good for Whites.

    Beyond opposing the Jews who seek to use Western financial or military resources to subsidize Israel, I don’t see a compelling reason for White racial Nationalists to oppose Zionism in the Middle East at all. Jewish activity that does not impinge on White interests is not our problem. The Zionist atrocities in Palestine and elsewhere are of course sad and unfortunate, but they’re peripheral to the matter of White survival. Also, the logical contradiction entailed in demanding for ethno-nationalism for Whites while simultaneously opposing ethno-nationalism for Jews makes us look like hypocrites.

    Regarding a potential alliance with the non-White Muslim, creating such an alliance is unlikely because all historical and contemporary evidence suggests that non-White Muslims despise White Europeans and White Western Civilization as much as Jews do.

    In point of fact, non-White Muslims have never hesitated to slaughter European Christians when given the opportunity to do so, they oppose Jews for their own reasons, and they have never once spoken out in defense of White racial Nationalists.

    In short, the Muslims do not behave any differently than other non-White group; while the Muslims do oppose the Jews, they do so for their own reasons, and in the West they also traffic on the Multi-Cult paradigm to advance their interests at the expense of Whites just like every other group.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 27, 2011 - 1:43 am | Permalink

      In that comment, Lew speaks for me too.

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 27, 2011 - 2:35 am | Permalink

      Very well stated, Lew. I think you’ve summarized everything perfectly.

    • Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
      March 27, 2011 - 7:27 pm | Permalink

      Lew,

      The whole focus must be on keeping the ME out of Israeli hands. Right now, my area is being inundated with Iraqi War refugees. I haven’t run across any yet, but I’m sure we have Afghanis coming here. Any ME country the US engages results in refugees from that country pouring into the West.

      In fact, all the Muslim rapes on European countries are at the hands of Legal Immigrant Refugees, NOT some advancing Muslim army, armed to the teeth, storming the gates of European capitals. They have simply moved in by government invitation and then have their antics subsidized by European governments.

      Europe can evict these Muslim by taking a carrot-stick approach. They can cut off all benefits to anyone who is not an indigenous national and they can pay a generous stipend (for the ME) for those Muslims to return home and start up their own businesses. However, the point is that they must go back and live in the ME.

      Muslims MUST control the ME, so that the Europeans can control Europe. It’s as simple as that.

    • Scathach's Gravatar Scathach
      March 27, 2011 - 7:54 pm | Permalink

      Absolutely spot on, Lew. Could not have stated it any better.

  50. Curt's Gravatar Curt
    March 26, 2011 - 8:58 pm | Permalink

    @Whiteawake:
    “I’m sorry if this sounds offensive but I think it needs to be said:
    At least 90% of the posts here, including mine, are nothing but the same old quibbling and the same old repetition and whining about getting wiped out. I can’t help but notice a singular lack of enthusiasm for anything which requires a little bit more than just sitting back crying. Maybe I have formed a completely mistaken impression and I certainly hope I have.”
    Whiteawake, I was going to post essentially the same thing in slightly different words, but you beat me to it.
    You go on to say; “To save ourselves is going to require a lean mean dedication to fight an utterly ruthless enemy who gives no quarter. The time to use every available tactic was yesterday, folks; we’re already far behind”
    Too late, I’m afraid in any case. Our young people are completely brainwashed and incapable of identifying with their own kind. They remind me of the pathetic pictures taken in the late 1890’s, of the “hang around the fort” Indians who dressed like white men and tried to ape their habits in the hope of ingratiating themselves with them. That is how our young men act when they walk around with their pants hanging to their knees like they “have a load” in them and don’t know what to do about it in public. Our young white women are pumping out future Barry O’s and here we are with the remainder of sane white people wringing their hands and crying about “the way we were” and “what we should do”, etc. I have come to the conclusion, after 40 years of listening to this stuff, that we are never gong to DO anything. The “why” of this is simple: there is intense fear of the consequences among whites- those who STILL DO have jobs left to loose. And loose them you will if you really attempt to do anything in the real world about the situation.
    “Take every opportunity to punish race-mixers in whatever way you legally can.” – What exactly would that be? Say anything and you will be hit with “racial descrimination lawsuits”. DO anything and you will be thrown in jail for a “hate crime”.
    ” Point out to anyone who’ll listen the hypocritical position of our enemy. Point out that it’s blacks and latino’s who commit most of the crime. Point out what black run government is wherever it’s found.”
    -This has been done endlessly online. Doing it in print is not possible since Jews own the media lock, stock and barrel. Your audience is limited in this regard and you only end up preaching to the choir.
    “Most of us, including myself, would probably do well to spend more time studying how Hitler took the defeated, jew-controlled wreck that was Germany and turned it around;…..”
    – Times were very different back then Whiteawake. My mother was born in Germany in 1914. I know the mindset of those people, that place and in those times from someone who lived there during that period and through WW2 and who related the story to me as she saw it unfold around her. Those people were not brainwashed by TV- it did not exist. They had a culture that was their own (it is dead now), suffered terrible economic times thanks to Die Juden and had a conscious awareness (which many in the US do not) of who the real enemy was. Though the Jews had infiltrated themselves into every strata of society there just as here, they still did not wield the power over the populace’s minds that they do here. They also did not have the power of life and death over the German folk that Jews do here (the power to imprison you for “thinking the wrong thing”, for saying the wrong thing and thereby losing the ability to support your family). The German people were NOT AFRAID. The time for imitating the tactics of Hitler ended with the defeat of Germany in WW2. These are different times and need a different approach. All the “legal avenues” to change are closed to white people here and throughout the Wester World. Public meetings to discuss and plan avenues to approach the problem are worse than silly- the world knows and you can bet such meetings are infested with “government representatives”. Online chatter is just a pressure outlet for the stymied, and such forums as this are monitored as well. Any successful efforts will no longer work via such traditional approaches. Any real “resistance” would of necessity, need to be unorthodox (in the American sense of the word), planned and executed using the tactics of successful revolutionary groups of the past century. Those who know a little of the history of such “movements” will know what I am talking about. In any case, I am very sure that present day white Americans have no stomach for such activities and this will never come to pass. Mao may have been a butcher, but he was right about one thing- “political change comes from the barrel of a gun”.

  51. Hengist's Gravatar Hengist
    March 26, 2011 - 8:55 pm | Permalink

    The late, great, Robert Frenz, said that…. for the White race to survive, Western civilisation must fall. I don’t like it, but I’m afraid he was right. We will ONLY pull together when circumstances are so horrendous as to leave us no choice.

  52. Rod Mckenzie's Gravatar Rod Mckenzie
    March 26, 2011 - 6:58 pm | Permalink

    The future for the world is going to be extremely nasty for everyone! There will be no room for being “nice”! The United States is definitely going to collapse and there will be inevitable bloodshed between the races. The artificial state Israel will collapse also and most of the non-Arabs will be massacred. Europe will revert to extreme forms of nationalism and there will be bloodshed everywhere. The peoples that will survive will be the ones with superior survival skills. The Jews will be trying to win over whatever side they see as being better for their interests as always. When things get too nasty in the Western world, the Jews will move on to China or India and try and establish a presence there. Lets hope that the Chinese or Indians have learned from our stupidity and will never make deals with them or allow them to live amongst them.

    • visitor's Gravatar visitor
      March 26, 2011 - 10:35 pm | Permalink

      further to rehmat’s comment, robert friedman’s exposé of the russian jewish crime network (hollywood’s “russian” mafia) is available free online. now deceased, he’s the exception that proves the rule.
      http://robert-friedman-red-mafiya.blogspot.com/2007/09/robert-friedman-red-mafiya-jewish-mafia_4646.html

      “little odessa” (1994) is the only film i can think of that touches on the ex-russia jewish mafia. “once upon a time in america” is my favourite jewish mafia movie, though “the godfather II” features a character clearly based on meyer lansky.

      anyone got any other jewish mafia movie suggestions?

    • March 27, 2011 - 12:45 am | Permalink

      Once Upon a Time in America was an excellent film directed by Sergio Leone about Jewish mobsters in the first half of the 20th Century.

      Honestly though that’s the only film I can think of other than Little Odessa which centered on a group of characters who were Jewish mobsters.

      though “the godfather II” features a character clearly based on meyer lansky.

      Indeed, and they did explictely state in the movie that Hyman Roth was Jewish.

    • Scott Mollett's Gravatar Scott Mollett
      March 27, 2011 - 10:22 pm | Permalink

      American pop has a jew gangster but of course he marries into an Italian mafia family. He ends up snitching on the mob and being a good guy. Suprise suprise suprise.

  53. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    March 26, 2011 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

    The 60-100 million Russian Christians and Muslims were killed Jewish communist elites – Lenin, Stalin and their Jewish-headed killing squads.

    In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore wrote that some of world’s greatest mass murders happen to be Jewish.

    The first President of Communist Russia, Jacob Sverdlov, was Jewish.

    Even now, the Jewish elites are conspiring a regime change in Moscow – replacing Putin with pro-Israel Medvedev.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/jewish-dissidents-want-regime-change-in-moscow/

  54. Joseph's Gravatar Joseph
    March 26, 2011 - 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Universalist morality and a struggle towards objectivity is of course good.

    However, what people of European descent must learn is that they are essentially alone with that desire. And use this towards their own “ethnocentrism”; the rest are not interested in serious objectivity nor strict morality, therefore we cannot share territory, economy and culture with them.

  55. omop's Gravatar omop
    March 26, 2011 - 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Clytemnestra
    Have to admit that in general your observations and comments suggesr a “jesuit” line of logic which after all what transpired in Russia …. where according several authors including Solzenitsin over 30 million Russian Christians were massacred while Jewish Bolsheviks were in power in Moscow and St. Petersburg and elsewhere can only lead to the conclusions in your comment.

  56. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    March 26, 2011 - 4:05 pm | Permalink

    IMO, the White Nationalists in Europe and in this country are making a huge mistake in NOT finding common cause with the Muslims.

    Surely, it has occurred to someone that Zionism has larger territorial imperatives than what the UN awarded them. Does that saying, “From the shores of the Euphrates to the banks of the Nile” ring a bell here to anyone? I believed it is carved on the walls of the Israeli Knesset.

    What in the hell gives anyone any reason to believe that the Israelis are going to be satisfied after they push out every Palestinian from its original borders? They will not. They will go on to foment wars with all their neighbors, bringing in Uncle Stupid as their golem.

    Then where are all these war refugees going to head to? Indigenous White lands, of course. Who is going to have to deal with the angry Arab-Muslim diaspora? Whites, of course. Who is going to pay the Israelis through the nose for oil once they control it? Whites, of course.

    Why do you think the Jews are so tolerant of Arabs and Muslims immigration into the United States, Europe, and other White homelands? Because if they are causing trouble for us over here, they aren’t causing them any problems over there.

    White Nationalists are making a tragic mistake in sucking up to Israel. Yes, the Muslims in Europe are obnoxious, rapacious, looting trolls, but the Europeans everywhere can force their governments (at gunpoint if necessary to stop allowing Non-White invasions). They can ignore their sell-out media and they can counter-attack any Muslims who attack their people. They can drive them out at a point of a gun if they don’t behave.

    But all of them need to take a page from Lady Michele Renouf’s playbook. Support the Palestinians. Point out that the real Jewish homeland is in Bierozhiban (which Stalin erected for them because it was based in the original Khazarian kingdom).

    Last, but not least, America’s whole foreign and domestic policy should center around getting completely energy self-sufficient. Drill here, drill now.

    • Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
      March 26, 2011 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

      Clytemnestra, it’s occurred to many that the Tribe has designs on far more than their current (undefined) borders. It’s occurred to many that they want the Ersatz Israel as TERRITORY between the Euphrates and the Nile.

      But has it occurred to more than a few that what the Tribe IS is a kind of network not limited to a single spacial place, and their real goal is much bigger? They want, via their criminal network, to have access to the whole WORLD, and to suck it dry for their “chosen” benefit.

      It’s a mistake to think they just want more territory in the ME. They want their networked “order” to collect the resources of the whole planet into their laps, and make us all slaves to that network.

  57. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    March 26, 2011 - 3:52 pm | Permalink

    G.G. I’d say Europe’s ruling elites have caved to Zionism. And long before it occurred to them to that jews might help get rid of muslims. For crying out loud if not for the jew Europe wouldn’t have a problem with muslims just as we wouldn’t.

    They should be ashamed to seek help from jews. They should step up and act like men and kick the jew from having power over them.

    Rather than belittling Sarah Palin you should reserve your contempt for those who want her in power simply so they can use her and manipulate her. Ronald Reagan and George Bush were/are not towers of intellect. Neither is Obama, I can forgive Palin her ignorance but when someone knows better and then serve the interests of jews, that I cannot forgive.

  58. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    March 26, 2011 - 3:43 pm | Permalink

    The most vital advantage jews have is control of the media. Inform Whites of the truth of what is happening and before long they would all think as we do.

    Also, once again I wish to state that it is the intellectual elites who are the ones who need convincing. jews have a lot of presence and control in all of our vital institutions. So how do our elites remove them from power and take everything back?

    The biggest problem we have is not convincing the masses to seek White interests but convincing the White elites.

    • Felix's Gravatar Felix
      March 26, 2011 - 3:50 pm | Permalink

      Or, if the white “elites” can’t be convinced, they can be toppled.

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 26, 2011 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

      This issue of media control is huge. This is one of the few outlets where Jewish influence can be seriously discussed. I would suggest sending reasonable emails to news groups and TV shows with regard to Jewish influence when you have time. I just mean just short emails. It won’t change their mind but it will notify them that more and more people are aware of the issue.

      Also, bringing the topic up in online forums is a good idea. Avoid using language that turns people off . Simply bring up issues that make them think about the issue for the first time. Let Christians knows that their goodwill toward the Israel Lobby is not returned, when it comes to issues like mass immigration to the US, that kind of thing. These things are small but they have an influence.

      Remember, no matter how small a dissenting voice is, it gets magnified because it stands out from the uniform propaganda we hear all day.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 26, 2011 - 5:19 pm | Permalink

      Barbara: “Also, once again I wish to state that it is the intellectual elites who are the ones who need convincing. ”

      For this reason I think that putting out The Occidental Quarterly / The Occidental Observer is the most important work anybody is doing for Whites online, and the serious publications of its contributors are the most valuable work anybody is doing for Whites.

    • Sam Davidson's Gravatar Sam Davidson
      March 26, 2011 - 5:49 pm | Permalink

      I agree with you, Barbara. If we can break through this wall of brainwashing then we can start getting whites on our side. The big problem is: 1) the media, and 2) the tremendous hostility faced by White Nationalists or anyone whose politics are objectively good for whites.

    • Scooter's Gravatar Scooter
      March 26, 2011 - 9:01 pm | Permalink

      Felix is exactly right. The white elites will sit idly by while white nationalists go to the gulag. All they care about is their own money and power, and they will step on us to keep it. They want mexican immigration for cheap labor and high profits. They are in league with the crooked jewish businessmen.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 27, 2011 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

      @ Barbara

      There’s one thing Barbara keeps repeating ad infinitum and it’s perhaps the MOST important point that explains the easy supremacy of the Jews: their complete control over the media.

      Any future society that wants to protect itself from the Jews must legislate against Jewish monopoly of the media.

      I’m not going to be a fascist and suggest that ALL media should at once be taken out of Jewish hands and Jews forbidden from poisoning the minds of the masses.

      No, they should be allowed to say what they want IN PROPORTION to their numbers. If Jews are 2% of the American population, then maybe they could be allowed to own 2% of the media.

      But then what about Jewish teachers and college professors? You want your kids taught by them? You want your 11-year-old daughter given sex education lessons by a lesbian feminist? Instructions on how to use vibrators?

  59. G. G.'s Gravatar G. G.
    March 26, 2011 - 3:39 pm | Permalink

    I think the pro-Zionism of the European Nationalists is interesting. At first sight it appears that they have simply caved in to the Judeo-Liberal zeitgeist, but upon further analysis it also shows that they are, well, sort of OK with ethnic cleansing. I’m sure many Jews see it this way. Even the Zionism of Geert Wilders is not the same as the Zionism of someone like Sarah Palin, who probably sees Israel as a universalist free market-lovin’ democracy.

    • March 27, 2011 - 1:54 am | Permalink

      Is Sarah Palin (married to an Eskimo) even smart enough to comprehend the ideology of universalist free-market liberal democracy?

      Chances are she probably just thinks that star of david necklace she wore recently looks cool, and nothing more.

  60. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    March 26, 2011 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

    A book by Helen Merriell Lynd, published in 1958, talks about how some wanted to use psychology to manipulate the people into acquiescence to society rather than to growing and changing. Whites are psychologically manipulated into acting in the interests of other races and to think of ourselves as evil if we care for our own interests.

    There is a world of difference between Whites conquering inferior races and creating modern civilization and the jews USING US to make them into a hegemon in the ME. They will turn everything into a Gaza Strip, they can’t conquer the Palestinians without our help. So there is no comparison.

    All the hordes that live off White societies don’t seem to mind how we got here, they just care that they get to take advantage of everything our people created.

  61. O.O's Gravatar O.O
    March 26, 2011 - 3:24 pm | Permalink

    There’s one big problem with adopting a “whatever works” morality. Expect every other group to do the same thing. Can our world survive if every group has this mentality/morality? No.

    I do think that there’s an imbalance in our society which is leading to the bashing of white people in high places (university campuses, etc.) with little or no outcry (and sometimes celebration). In fact, as MacDonald has pointed out, people who do such bashing can often expect accolades and career advancement.

    That’s a problem. But not with universal ethics per se–with the corruption of universal ethics by opportunists and “moral-ideal idolators.”

  62. Praxis's Gravatar Praxis
    March 26, 2011 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    “You revealed yoursef as anti-Rachel and you defended her Zionist killers at every opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, that makes you a Jew. Apart from the fact that you take the correct Jewish line on all important matters, including 9-11 and the Protocols — and you also make light of Israeli war crimes.”

    I’m not Jason’s defender, but I don’t follow the Protocols either. Does that make me a jew?

    None of this makes Jason is a jew or means that he is on the ADL/SPLC payroll. Your accusations make you look ridiculous. Try keeping THAT in mind. Jason’s reflexively ‘anti-extremism,’ conservo-libertarianism, inflated sense of self-worth, and large amount of Internet play time might also mean that he’s a student, disabled homebody, pensioner or employed in a non-demanding position with access to the Internet. He appears to be a long time follower of Ayn Rand ethics and Milton Friedman economics who has experienced an epiphany regarding jewry.

    At best he’s a distraction. Ignore him if he bothers you.

    • dc's Gravatar dc
      March 27, 2011 - 12:45 am | Permalink

      I’m with Anonyma. Jew or not, Jason is excessively unpleasant and repetitious, and has spoiled many discussions recently.

      There really should be a cap on the number of comments any one person can submit.

    • Fynn's Gravatar Fynn
      March 27, 2011 - 10:55 am | Permalink

      Restricting a poster to 2 or 3 responses a thread seems a good idea, but creates extra work for the moderators. In the case of Jason Speaks, I don’t think he is a Jew – a lot of what he posts here “the Joos” wouldn’t like – and in any case has said he’s not going to post as often. In discussion groups such as this one there may be the phenomenon of the “Jew troll” who wants to waste people’s time, but there is also definitely the phenomenon of the “anybody who disagrees with me is a Jew” guy. I wish both types would restrict themselves to commenting on substance, or not commenting at all.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 27, 2011 - 7:07 pm | Permalink

      @ Captainchaos

      Anonyma is a Dweeb Engel sockpuppet.

      Sorry darling, you’re totally wrong. I and Dweeb have nothing in common. Half the time I didn’t know what he was talking about because he’s above waaaaaay above my head. I’m a simple gal, see, and I don’t dig no intellectual claptrap talk like Dweeb dished up regler.

      Besides, Dweeb wouldn’t call you “darling”, would he?

  63. Jupiter7's Gravatar Jupiter7
    March 26, 2011 - 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Asians in America are actively participating in the racial cleansing of White Americans out of California….nothing could be more obvious, and the vicious racial harassment of the young White Woman at UCLA provides even more evidence of this racial cleansing(Although for some strange reason the immigration reform organization numbersusa.com pretends that White Americans do not exist and numbersusa.com bases immigration reform on the racial interests of other nonwhite groups-such as the Asian “Americans”.)

    When the situation becomes unbearable enough for White Americans, I fully expect them to do the right thing. There is no debate..we reject our race-replacement and racial cleansing.

    No doubt, the racial cleanising Asians will repsond..”look at what the White Man did to the American Indian”. I respond:”I don’t care..and if you so concerned about the American Indian..do your part and go back to China so the Indians can have California back” Larger point in my response:”what were the Ameridians doing before the White Man came? Answer:ethnic cleansing and extermination within their own racial group. Whites weren’t doing anything that the Ameridians weren’t alreadt doing.” Go check out the new study about this in Science Magazine.

  64. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    March 26, 2011 - 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to the Zionist Hasbara (propaganda) mafia – the vast majority of western believe that all Arabs are Muslims and therefore, no concern of the Western Christians. However, in reality more than 15% of 350 million Arabs in the Arab world and the West – are Christians. In Israel proper, Christian made 14% of the Arab population, Currently, it is reduced to less than 5%. Religiously, Christians are treated worse than Muslims in Israel – where thousands copies of NT have burnt, priests spit on their faces, no new church has been allowed to be constructed since 1948 and if someone offer a copy of NT as a present to a Jew – he goes to jail.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/religious-hatred-in-israel/

  65. March 26, 2011 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    “According to a newspaper report, Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the US, in a recent speech in Colorado noted that “Coloradans and Israelis share a legacy as ‘frontier societies’ whose early people faced many dangers.” Philip Weiss comments, “Notice how Oren plays on the ethnic cleansing of the U.S., the unstated message is, ‘Hey you committed genocide, who are you to judge?’””

    It’s a bit broader than that. Kevin Philips or Michael Lind, in one of their books on the Republican ideology, notes that there is an weird similarity btw Southwesterners, esp. Texans, and Israelis. Think of some big bellied guy, stuffed into blue jeans and boots, big hat and no cattle, sitting on his porch, looking out over a stinking desert stolen from the natives and irrigated, for crops, lawn and swimming pool, by water piped in from some stolen aquafer. Is it a typical ranchero or Ariel Sharon?

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 26, 2011 - 7:12 pm | Permalink

      So you dislike Texans? You think of the pioneers and early White Settlers as people who “stole” land from others”? You think of them as thieves of one variety or another? If is your view, what kind of “White Nationalism” are you a fan of?

      I have noted that the Leftists who do confront Israel, do so for the same reason they hated Frontiersmen in the Old West. They hate what they call a “frontier mentality”. I once heard a hardcore anti-American leftist go off on how Israelis were “picking off Arabs like cowboys killing indians”. This was presented as sufficient proof of their evil – the comparison to cowboys.

      The White settlers and Frontiersmen (and women) who settled North America are among the bravest, most heroic people who have ever lived. Their story still hasn’t been fully appreciated and it is part of a larger movement that settled North America, Australia and New Zealand, among others. These were heroes.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 27, 2011 - 4:33 am | Permalink

      Cobalt: “The White settlers and Frontiersmen (and women) who settled North America are among the bravest, most heroic people who have ever lived. Their story still hasn’t been fully appreciated and it is part of a larger movement that settled North America, Australia and New Zealand, among others. These were heroes.”

      This.

      We should struggle to survive if only so that these heroes will one day receive the full respect they deserve. It’s vastly unlikely that any people other than Whites will ever adequately honor them.

  66. Petronius's Gravatar Petronius
    March 26, 2011 - 1:01 pm | Permalink

    >You wrote over ONE HUNDRED POSTS yourself recently, on a >single thread, sneering at Rachel Corrie and defending her >Jewish killers!

    Actually he didn’t, he just produced evidence that Rachel was motivated by White Guilt syndrome and cultural marxism, which makes her not exactly the kind of martyr feisty Lasha would us want to have. Now get over it, please, it is not the end of the world, and not even the fault of Zionist trolling…

  67. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    March 26, 2011 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

    The white elites see themselves as ethical activists. For them that is the very opposite of ethnic activism (for whites).

  68. Petronius's Gravatar Petronius
    March 26, 2011 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    A correcion: Strache is the chairman of the AUSTRIAN Freedom Party, and very UNlikely the next chancellor of Austria, though he had comparatively big success during the last elections.

  69. John Doe's Gravatar John Doe
    March 26, 2011 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

    The Amerinds of north America were stone-age people and because of their life-style they were not very numerous. But there is enough archeological evidence which shows that before Amerinds even came from Asia, both north and south continent of America were populated with people of white appearance, long skulls, fair hair and European DNA. I’m just guessing, what happened to them – were they genocided by the Amerinds? Will history repeat itself.

  70. March 26, 2011 - 11:32 am | Permalink

    What is interesting about all of the focus on Islam is that it is not the Qur’an that has those Asians running through the streets of English towns screaming, “WHITES OUT THIS IS A MUSLIM NEIGHBOURHOOD” just as it isn’t the Blessed Virgin Mary calling for La Reconquista in US, or Confucius calling for the 20-80 Project etc, it is Race and Ethnic solidarity.
    I’ve seen a video of an Aussie attacked in Sydney I think it was by about 50 or more Lebanese. Just as blacks do in US, if a White person just falls, as one did during the Cowboys’ Super Bowl win parade, INSTANTLY dozens of blacks were stomping him into the pavement.
    Fact is the REST of the world KNOWS tribalism is where it is at, the reason OUR people do not is so well described in the CoC, see also Stanley Hornbeck’s review of that tome on KM’s Cal State website

    • Tom's Gravatar Tom
      March 26, 2011 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

      @Shiva

      Did you see the trailers for the Reconquista propaganda film Machete? A Roman Catholic priest in a confessional, and a nun with a gun. LOL.

    • Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
      March 26, 2011 - 6:35 pm | Permalink

      Shiva, if you are interested in the Solutreans and the Clovis culture, have a look at this relatively new video series. It’s a 10-part lecture given by Smithsonian scientist Dennis Stanford, and seems to be the most recent chapter in that story. Stanford has discovered the oldest known (to date) artifact in NA, it’s about 18,000 years old, and it wasn’t made by the red “native americans”.

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 26, 2011 - 7:28 pm | Permalink

      This is fascinating material on the very earliest immigrants to the Americas, who may very well have been European. In fact, some theorize that the small groups of early Europeans may have been killed off by the ancestors of what we call the “Native Americans”. So much for the idea we “stole” the land or that Red Indians were some group of milquetoast peace worshipers.

      And in every important sense, Whites built what we mean by America.

  71. March 26, 2011 - 11:18 am | Permalink

    The solution to the whole problem is surprisingly simple. It’s a variation on a plan proposed for solving the Vietnam crisis.

    1. Load all the Israelis on our ships in the Mediterranean.
    2. Drop 3/4 of our neutron bombs on the whole Middle East, killing all the Arabs but leaving Eretz Israel and the oil fields intact.
    3. After the radiation subsides, return the Israelis to their new home.
    4. Drop the rest of our neutron bombs on Eretz Israel.
    5. Resume oil pumping.

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      March 26, 2011 - 11:26 am | Permalink

      James – I am a Christian. Not a Muslim. I am NO fan of Islam – but Whites would not be having any problems with Arabs AT ALL – were it not for the complete wreckage on Westenr institutions, by the Children of Abraham. I actually feel sorry for most Arab Muslims. They serve as “Lenny”, to the Kosher “George”. So I do not wish to slaughter all Arabs. Actual Semites. I know a lovely Palestinian Christian woman – and I rate her very highly, as a person, and would not ever want one teeny bit of harm to come to her wonderful head.

      Iranians are Persians. Most Persians are Caucasian variants. Why would I wish to obliterate my own cousins?

      I do not.

      My ideal would b to keep Nations seperated – and to wish other Nations (“Nation” is Race) the best, and to fare well, according to their respective talents and abilities.

      WE don’t possess the ability to bomb or nuke any-one. The sole thing we can do is speak the truth – no matter what the consequences. So please do so.

      So please refrain from the fantasist nonsense. Thank you.

  72. Scott Mollett's Gravatar Scott Mollett
    March 26, 2011 - 10:47 am | Permalink

    The natives of Norht America were 2000 years behind the rest of the world. They lived inb the stone age while most of the world was in the age of steel. If Europeans had not taken North America then Asians or Arabs would have. A people cannot fall 2000 years behind and expect to keep any power.

    I am sick of hearing that we stole this land so jews can steal Palestine. Besides jew bankers were heavely involved in stealing from natives in NA.

    Anyone who believes we need jews to help solve the jew problem is a fool or a traitor.

    • March 26, 2011 - 11:35 am | Permalink

      Whites are the Native Americans. SOLUTREAN. check it out

    • Denys Picard's Gravatar Denys Picard
      March 26, 2011 - 12:16 pm | Permalink

      I tend agree with you, since the Judeo-Christian alliance is what has allowed our nation to be taken over by the Jewish minority. So, is the sole argument really, if we get rid of the Muslims, everything will fall into place. I doubt it. In fact, Muslims tend to be very easy to integrate by a majority. The thing is, when they are in a host country (these are the words of the Coran) they are obliged to adapt and give prevalance to local laws and traditions.. If Western Muslims have not integrated the way the european-american Christians would like, it is because they followed the Jewish Multiculturist rules and leadership that is now prevalent everywhere in the Western world.

    • Boudicca's Gravatar Boudicca
      March 27, 2011 - 10:34 am | Permalink

      Shiva:

      The Discovery Channel has removed the show: Ice Age Columbus from its line-up, just as the Chinese removed the Caucasian mummies from its traveling mummy exhibits and Kenewick Man and other Caucasian mummies found in the Americas have been “claimed” by NA tribes who demand they be re-buried immediately (deep-sixed forever, ending any other further study or questions as to their origins).

      Ice Age Columbus compellingly covered the Solutrean, such as how the Clovis tip arrowhead closely resembles European arrowheads of the time and not those found in Siberia.

      Once I heard Ice Age Columbus had been pulled, I tried to find a copy, the Discovery Store no longer carries the DVD, and here is what I found on Amazon.com:

      Ice Age Columbus ~ Who Were the First Americans? – DVD (2005)

      1 new from $129.90

      Only one copy and once its gone, Ice Age Columbus won’t be available anywhere. You can be sure this will never be aired on TV again.

      Someone is working very diligently to make sure any signs of Caucasians outside of certain boundaries in Europe are erased. Yeah, guess who? Same people who are making sure we will be erased permanently.

  73. omop's Gravatar omop
    March 26, 2011 - 10:39 am | Permalink

    Morality a la mode.

    Jewish Fanaticism, is best examplified by a systematic eagerness to make non -jews feel guilty, to make them hang their heads and fall to their knees for crimes they did not commit, or for crimes for which Jews themselves might feel a little guilty but prefer “to transfer” to others.

    A former Israeli cabinet minister Shulamit Aloni (born 1928), during her August 14, 2002 interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! said it all:

    “Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel then we bring up the holocaust. When in this country (US) people are criticizing Israel then they are antisemitic. And the organization (Israel Lobby) is very strong and has lot of money. And the ties between Israel and American Jewish establishment are very strong – and they are strong in this country as you know. And they have THE power which is ok”

  74. Denys Picard's Gravatar Denys Picard
    March 26, 2011 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    First I would like to thank Pr. Macdonald for his intellectual contributions. I have just recently begun reading his word and I am therefore in an amazement of the courage of his arguments.

    As well, his propositions are such a Pandora’s Box that any solution to Western dilemmas suddenly may only occur while considering a great depth of complexity.
    Naturally, at first, ones attempts reconciliation the 3 main elements of any new Societal Proposition. While Macdonald addresses the social and political, the economical strategies and consequences may not be dissociated from this reflection.

    As Pr. Macdonald is cited by many new political formations, including the tea partiers, whose main economic sittings are the work initiated by Hayek, there appear to be a flaw in the translation of the theory into practice. As I was reading the Culture of critique, it appeared obvious to me that applying this filter to the neo-classical free market theories exposes the fact that it is similar to all the other manipulating Jewish intellectual propositions that Culture of Critique exposes. Economic Neo-classicism has the same shortcomings, the same unscientific basis, and the same sophism. This, in itself, will be a major challenge, how to imagine an economic proposition that liberates us from the Concentration of power that Western societies have build up through out the last 30 years, and that permanently destructed the majority’s well being.

    As for a deeper reflection on the current article, other subgroups that are not racially based will have to be considered since they have much momentum and are becoming more support columns to the current illegitimate socio-political Jewish dominated system. For example, an analysis of social subgroups as gay and lesbian movements, feminism, etc…These groups are strategic challenges to address because they have overlapping spatial qualities.

    My self-imposed question is therefore: do we simply want a racially uniform, yet as imbalanced and diseased society as the one we have now, or homogeneity with quality?
    If the former, than a deeper challenge that considers strategy, organization, and coordination is essential.

    Denys Picard

    • Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
      March 26, 2011 - 6:20 pm | Permalink

      Were you the captain of the starship Enterprise before adding this excellent comment to our space? :)

      Yes, the economic dimension, or rather the dimension of how distorted economic theory has affected our (mis)understanding of the social Order of the European Peoples is an important part of the analysis that will lead us out of the woods.

  75. Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
    March 26, 2011 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    Death to the goyim!

  76. Miriam K's Gravatar Miriam K
    March 26, 2011 - 10:05 am | Permalink

    Mass invasion of your homelands by hostile foreigners. We Jews have got our way. So what do you propose to do about it, you sad bunch of losers?

    The genie is out of the bottle. There’s no putting it back. Aren’t we Jews smart to have let the genie out?

    What do you think, Jason Speaks? Aren’t we Jews clever to cause the goyim all these problems?

    Congratulations, by the way, on your brilliant posts! You’ve managed to pull the wool over most people’s eyes here. They actually think you’re a White Nationalist because you keep telling them you are!

    Poor silly goyim. It takes a Jew to recognize a Jew. And I recognize you, my dear brother in Zion.

    • European's Gravatar European
      March 26, 2011 - 3:22 pm | Permalink

      @ Miriam,
      it still bothers you that he won’t admitt it. Don’t worry Miriam, by most , or long timers on Too he’s been Id’d. You can fool some, some of the time, but not all of the time. I am just surprised that he continues to be allowed to post, at the irritation to most others here, besides me. On the other hand it tells me something about “Whites”. At a time when we need to come together, we allow “willingly”, Jason S, to mascarade as a White Nationalist. That is betraying our-own kind – suicide mission. I start to loose respect for the moderators here. Miriam, I give you this much, at least you are up front, and not a traitor to your own kind. For that you have my respect. Whether Death to the goyim will happen is another story. Jason, you are a smelly thru the ether-net, a self hating Jew.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 26, 2011 - 6:19 pm | Permalink

      @ European

      You’re a smart lady and I’m glad you can spot a troll when you see one. Slimy little rats like Jason Speaks deserve our contempt. I guess the reason the Moderators let him continue to post on this site is that they believe in free speech and they know all the old hands like you are wise to his ways.

      Did you know this guy is so desperate he made over 100 posts on the “Our Rachel” thread? And that’s not counting his sock puppets!

      He’s probably a full-time employee of the ADL. I’m told they pay retired Jews $500-1000 per month for posting on sites lke this.

  77. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    March 26, 2011 - 7:54 am | Permalink

    Well, it’s a waste of everybody’s time to take racist and sell-out people like Geert seriously. Like most of the Zionists living in their self-denial – he doesn’t know that before WW One – Jordan, Lebanon and most of Palestine was part of al-Sham (Syria). They also don’t want to know that India’s first ambassador at UN, Krishna Menon, told the UNSC members in 1948 during Israel’s admission to the US, that since Jewish Holocaust was carried by German – moral and justice demand that the most fertile state of Germany (Bavaria) be awarded to the Jews instead of punishing Palestinians for the crimes of European.

    Erdogan is right. Muslims minorities while must obey the local laws – they don’t have to sacrify their Islamic identity. Asiatic Jews and Gypsies have lived within European Christian societies for over 10 centuries – and even though they were persecuted and expelled from Europe – they maintained their religious and cultural identies. Now, the White European Christian leaders don’t seems to have a problem with the Asiatic Jews because the later finance their careers and control their governments, banks and media. So, they vent their racism against Muslims. Interestingly, the Muslim communities they hate – have one-third White converts among them while the Jews have hardly any.

    I remember late Judy LaMarsh, the Canadian politician and broadcaster, bringing a Native Canadian on her show. Bill told his story how he ran away from the Indian Reservation as a boy and was adopted by a White Christian who gave him a Christian name. He grew up as a Christian with two PhDs from two Canadian universities. However, even dressed-up as a Whiteman, he was refused to be served at several high-class restuarants in Calgary and other places. He told Judy that he admired Muslim immigrants who maintain their Islamic identity and remain acceptable to Muslim communities outside Canada while he is neither acceptable to the White Christians nor to the Native people back in the Reservation, who consider him a traitor.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/bosnia-hercegvina-living-example-of-wests-muslim-hatred/

  78. Fred's Gravatar Fred
    March 26, 2011 - 6:14 am | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald,

    Some people have argued on the basis of demographic evidence that the risk of Europe becoming Islamized is overblown. See:
    http://rfmcdpei.livejournal.com/408410.html
    http://historyandfutility.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/why-eurabia/

    “It would be wonderful if it was that easy, and I certainly hope that a non-violent method could be found. But I rather doubt that this would be sufficient. Europe would still offer very attractive economic prospects compared to the Muslim immigrant-sending countries.”
    The recent attacks on Islam in the German mainstream were sufficient to cause more Muslims to leave Germany than are coming in. Chances are that if a true anti-Islamic party came to power in any European country, many more Muslims would leave.

    ” Statistics also reveal that over the past two years the number of people from majority Muslim countries who returned home significantly outstripped the number who immigrated to Germany.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,714534,00.html

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      March 26, 2011 - 12:32 pm | Permalink

      Demography Matters’s Randy has a lot of faith in estimates of the number of muslims in France even though the French do not collect such data officially. Furthermore he’s ignoring the effect of the geographical concentration and youth of muslims. He forgets that Turkey ALREADY IS a European country. David Cameron is pushing Turkey for full EU membership. His cunning plan is to let them in but suppress criticism by imposing restrictions on the immigration of Turks for 7 years. ( So when the tsunami of Turks comes he probably will be out of office)

      In the year 2000 the Observer published an article ‘UK whites will be minority by 2100′

      Here is one from 2010
      White Britons ‘could be minority by 2066′ it will not be necessary for Muslims to outnumber whites or be in a majority for them to have massive influence on the society.

    • Carl's Gravatar Carl
      March 27, 2011 - 9:17 am | Permalink

      This is terrible news. The Government must increase the welfare benefits and reproductive bonuses ! Yes the German people have spoken , this must now happen!

  79. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    March 26, 2011 - 5:58 am | Permalink

    I think that the Arab/Muslim immigrants are far less dangerous than Chinese immigrants.

    Muslims usually don’t mix with the local Europeans (except Muslims that are secularized or don’t care about their religion, and, believe it or not, there is a growing number of those).

    Other immigrants (especially the Chinese) have very high rates of intermarriage.

  80. Downunder's Gravatar Downunder
    March 26, 2011 - 5:56 am | Permalink

    “Miriam Faine, an editorial committee member of the
    Australian Jewish Democrat stated, “The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against antisemitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian”

    The Culture of Critique, p. 303.

    • March 26, 2011 - 11:24 am | Permalink

      I think the Professor should re-read the CoC, wonderful book, has woken up many people.
      There would be no racist anti-Whites of ANY religion in White homelands if were not for the Jewish influence, the sine qua non of White genocide.

  81. Inneres Licht's Gravatar Inneres Licht
    March 26, 2011 - 4:17 am | Permalink

    Dear Mr. MacDonald,
    As a German observer, I rather see the danger that European right-wing politicians simply surrender to (alleged) Jewish partners in hope for (alleged) media or financial advantages – instead of insisting on reciprocality: if we acknowledge a Jewish nation-state, you are to acknowledge our German, Dutch etc. nation-states.
    Which leads me to a complete different kind of moral choice: not an unprincipled “Whatever works, works”, but insisting on reciprocality (the most universal of all universal principles).

    • European's Gravatar European
      March 26, 2011 - 3:02 pm | Permalink

      @ Inneres Licht,
      nur das, d.h reciprocality, werden Sie von den Juden nicht bekommen. Ihr Ziel ist, Europa, besonders Deutschland und die Deutschen zu vernichten. Vielleicht lesen Sie nicht die selben Juedischen Buecher die ich hier lese, weil sie bei Ihnen “Verboten” sind. Juedische moralische Hypocracy. Wake up Germany – Wache auf Deutschland!

  82. Masculinity's Gravatar Masculinity
    March 26, 2011 - 3:33 am | Permalink

    There were At Most 18 million American Indians in all of the US (Including Alaska). Many died not due to genocide, but disease. We can’t be faulted for those deaths.

    Currently there are 2.5 million registered American Indians, with another 1.3 million counted as mixed race.

    There are 4 million people in the West Bank, and there are 5 million refugees. The West Bank is double the size of the county I live in.

    International Law sides with the Palestinians.

    There’s no moral equivalency here.

    Do you think Israel will stop with the West Bank and Gaza when the Haredim are having 7 kids each? I don’t.

    Defending ourselves does not mean supporting Israel.

    There’s also one more solution—-Colonialism. Yes it sounds crazy. But what if we simply recolonized certain countries with one way immigration? Then non-whites could have their culture, and benefit from Western governmental structures as well, all the while keeping the homelands intact.

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 26, 2011 - 3:41 am | Permalink

      Can we start by recolonizing Texas and California?

  83. Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
    March 26, 2011 - 3:06 am | Permalink

    First choose life. Choose life for yourself, for your family, and for your extended family, the White race.

    Without that starting point, and without holding it firm, and returning to it whenever we drift through weakness of will or the ebb and flow of attention that pervades life, we will get badgered, bluffed and bamboozled out of our very existence.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 27, 2011 - 5:57 am | Permalink

      Kevin MacDonald: “In a radio interview with Tom Sunic, I expressed support for an alliance with Zionists against Muslims.”

      I strongly support this, even though it’s unlikely that such an offer would ever be accepted, and even likely that it would be accepted in good faith and that organized Jewry would follow through on its side of the bargain.

      The point is, we have to choose to live for ourselves, positively. Not to live for the sake of other peoples such as Arabs, because we can aid their cause. Not to live for the sake of other peoples such as the Jews (negatively), for the sake of “not giving in” or revenge in some form. We must choose to live, collectively, for us, for our own people, for all time.

      Any deal that will serve that sacred end is acceptable, regardless of who did what to us in the past.

      It must not be our fault, through failure to keep our eyes on the prize, or through faults such as vengefulness or hate that this deal will not happen.

      And it won’t be. It’s entirely through Jewish aggressiveness, hyper-ethnocentricity and endless grievance-mongering against Whites that no true Jewish-White defensive ethnic alliance will ever be made.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 27, 2011 - 5:59 am | Permalink

      Correction: “I strongly support this, even though it’s unlikely that such an offer would ever be accepted, and even less likely that it would be accepted in good faith and that organized Jewry would follow through on its side of the bargain.”

  84. tma_sierrahills's Gravatar tma_sierrahills
    March 26, 2011 - 12:36 am | Permalink

    Whites: a bunch of little Jesus Christs or the Forgiveness People?

    I recall seeing on the news many years ago stories about a young American White woman who went to Africa to help the natives and was murdered by them. The final report I happened to catch on that story was about her parents, who had traveled to the neighborhood where their daughter had been murdered so that they could “forgive,” whereupon ensued much hugging, loving, laughter, tearing, singing, dancing and celebrating all around.

    About a dozen years back, close to where I lived, a woman, White, happened to be walking away from using her bank’s ATM when a bank robber, black, ran out. As she almost reached the safety of her car, the robber shot her in the back, killing her in front of her little boy who was looking out of the car window. A few days later the boy and his father were in front of news cameras, the father saying the most important thing was to “find forgiveness.”

    After the slaughter at Virginia Tech one of the first students I saw interviewed on campus talked about eventually being able to “forgive.”

    I’m not wanting to hammer people who are grieving and obviously this is supposed to be a way to purge one’s own grief, which, I’m thinking, probably provides a placebo affect, which can be powerful. On the other hand, sometimes all this seems as if it were some sort of hellishly comical pious script that all White people must follow to-the-letter as we slide to our final dark daffy demise.

    • Fr. Sandy's Gravatar Fr. Sandy
      March 26, 2011 - 2:18 am | Permalink

      If the husband found forgiving his wife’s murderer helped him and his child then I am all for it. It is far better for the remaining victims to forgive the murderer than be eaten up by a desire for revenge. However, the laws that God gave us still demand that the murderer be put to death. The concerns of the remaining victim is irrelevant in this area.

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 26, 2011 - 3:09 am | Permalink

      This instinct to immediately forgive those that murder your children is at the heart of what’s wrong with White people today. Most Whites don’t have that trait quite so bad, but a milder form is still very prevalent. Perhaps we Whites evolved to be less interested in revenge and this has helped us have a more civil society – as long as we are in a White society. But it is deadly in the current context.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 26, 2011 - 9:48 am | Permalink

      “Perhaps we Whites evolved to be less interested in revenge and this has helped us have a more civil society…”

      You’re not a White. You’re a Jew. An outed Zionist troll.

    • Hans's Gravatar Hans
      March 26, 2011 - 12:21 pm | Permalink

      Forgiveness in Christianity is for the wronged so he or she can move on without anger hurting him or her. In no way does this mean the elimination of consequences for the perpetrator.

    • Ryan k's Gravatar Ryan k
      March 27, 2011 - 9:07 am | Permalink

      What about blowing the Black Bastard balls off with a .44 ?

  85. Pax Europa Forever's Gravatar Pax Europa Forever
    March 25, 2011 - 11:44 pm | Permalink

    @MOD I made a typo in the above post. I want to edit out the word “kike” and replace it with “Jew.”

    Anyone who read Dr. Macdonald’s trilogy will know that Whites are prone to egalitarianism, altruistic reciprocity, individualism, and moral universalism. These things propelled our civilization to the top the world, with our technology and science, but they are maladaptive for our survival in a world of ethnic group competition, tribal nepotism, and non-White immigration.

    We had a few thousand years of dominance during which we should have dealt with the Jew, quarantined the negro, and gotten our stuff together. Instead, we seem to have done everything in our power to make sure the exact opposite would happen. And it has.

    If anyone defeats the Jew, it’ll be the Chinese or the Arabs. But most likely the Jew will eventually defeat himself again. In the meantime, we must support any and all enemies of the Jew, and never let the Jew push us into another senseless war again (i.e. Iraq War, Libya, Iran, Vietnam War, US Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Napoleonic Wars and so on, the list is endless.)

    We fattened up the Jew with our blood and the blood of our children for hundreds of years.

    There is no excuse for a Judah Benjamin (US Civil War), a Rothschild, an Oppenheimer, a Sassoon, a Trotsky, a Marx, or any of the thousands of influential Jews to be found in Europe prior to the 20th century.

  86. fender_strat's Gravatar fender_strat
    March 25, 2011 - 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Europeans siding with Zionists is a huge mistake. It will make White Europeans complacent, and what is actually needed is for them to become radicalized and racially conscious. This is only going to happen if Europe continues on its present course of unrestricted immigration and enforced multiculturalism.

    A half white/half-brown Europe is unacceptable. It must either be nearly all white or nearly all brown. If the people become radicalized and force their governments to get the Arabs and Africans out, that would be ideal. If the continent becomes absolutely swamped and whites need to emigrate somewhere else, that would be awful, but it’d be preferrable to being forced to live alongside hostile Arabs in a Zionist-controlled country.

    It’s all or nothing. If Europe is destined to be destroyed by the Arabs and Africans, then so be it. They’ll make Europe a hellhole like their countries are. If all white countries are to be destroyed by migrating Arabs and Africans, then so be it. They’ll just move on to the East Asian countries like Japan and South Korea, which are practically the only non-European nations where it’s nice to live.

    As sad as is, everything comes to an end. Whites ruled for centuries, and maybe it’s simply our time. Besides, who knows what horrors are in store for humanity and planet Earth in the coming centuries? I sometimes shudder to think what terrible things we’re going to invent; imagine how narrowly we evaded a nuclear armageddon in the 20th century. Do whites really want to be around when the inevitable end to the planet comes?

    • Cobalt's Gravatar Cobalt
      March 26, 2011 - 12:57 am | Permalink

      Whites still have tremendous resources available to alter their current trajectory. In fact, in a sense, they have more potential power than at any point in history. What they are missing is the proper knowledge of the situation and the will to change their course.

      Events in the coming years will make it clear that the position of Whites is indeed precarious. This alone may spur more interest in saving White culture. Whites are running out of places to run. Until now, Whites could engage in a some form of flight and still think of themselves as safe. White flight is all over the place, but the time for that makeshift solution is running out. There will be nowhere left to run. This is bound to have an impact on the psychology of Whites worldwide. And remember, most of them have not done even 1% of thinking on this issue that the average reader of TOO has done. We are waiting for them to wake up.

    • Ryan K's Gravatar Ryan K
      March 27, 2011 - 8:59 am | Permalink

      What are you babbling on about?

  87. Fr. Sandy's Gravatar Fr. Sandy
    March 25, 2011 - 11:00 pm | Permalink

    “They” may have changed the name of Babylon into Multi-culturism but at least MacDonald has come up with a workable solution to begin the “Come out of Babylon” directive.

  88. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    March 25, 2011 - 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s a waste of everybody’s time to take racist and sell-out people like Geert seriously. Like most of the Zionists living in their self-denial – he doesn’t know that before WW One – Jordan, Lebanon and most of Palestine was part of al-Sham (Syria). They also don’t want to know that India’s first ambassador at UN, Krishna Menon, told the UNSC members in 1948 during Israel’s admission to the US, that since Jewish Holocaust was carried by German – moral and justice demand that the most fertile state of Germany (Bavaria) be awarded to the Jews instead of punishing Palestinians for the crimes of European.

    Erdogan is right. Muslims minorities while must obey the local laws – they don’t have to sacrify their Islamic identity. Asiatic Jews and Gypsies have lived within European Christian societies for over 10 centuries – and even though they were persecuted and expelled from Europe – they maintained their religious and cultural identies. Now, the White European Christian leaders don’t seems to have a problem with the Asiatic Jews because the later finance their careers and control their governments, banks and media. So, they vent their racism against Muslims. Interestingly, the Muslim communities they hate – have one-third White converts among them while the Jews have hardly any.

    I remember late Judy LaMarsh, the Canadian politician and broadcaster, bringing a Native Canadian on her show. Bill told his story how he ran away from the Indian Reservation as a boy and was adopted by a White Christian who gave him a Christian name. He grew up as a Christian with two PhDs from two Canadian universities. However, even dressed-up as a Whiteman, he was refused to be served at several high-class restuarants in Calgary and other places. He told Judy that he admired Muslim immigrants who maintain their Islamic identity and remain acceptable to Muslim communities outside Canada while he is neither acceptable to the White Christians nor to the Native people back in the Reservation, who consider him a traitor.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/bosnia-hercegvina-living-example-of-wests-muslim-hatred/

    • dc's Gravatar dc
      March 27, 2011 - 12:13 am | Permalink

      Begging your pardon, but there are no “high class restaurants” in Calgary.

  89. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    March 25, 2011 - 10:31 pm | Permalink

    A few years ago in a genteel Sydney beach near the famous Bondi Beach called Cronulla, a group of about twenty young Lebanese males were jostling and insulting several bikini clad Australian girls, who made it very clear they wanted nothing to do with them. This was noticed by two Aussie lifeguards who bravely but rather foolishly intervened.

    The Lebanese took exception to this interference and with superior numbers proceed to beat the bejeesus out of the brave Aussie Lifeguards nearly killing one of them. The next day, thanks to the cell phone, about 200 White Cronulla surfers made it their business to be present on Cronulla beach and gave the ‘Lebs’, or anyone who even looked slightly Lebanese, a very hard time.

    A day or so later many hundreds of the Lebanese tribe, who mostly reside in Sydney’s outer west, arrived in Cronulla armed with knives and baseball bats and commenced smashing everything in sight. Cars parked in the streets were trashed, windscreens & headlights smashed. Innocent locals were assaulted. One woman answered a knock on her door and had her face caved in with a baseball bat.

    This happened about five years ago and could easily have turned into an ethnic cleansing of the Western suburbs by tens of thousands of angry young Whites with blood in their eyes. It was only stopped by the establishment turning on the Australian youths and calling THEM ‘racist’ for seeking to even the score on the assault on their two Lifeguards. The Editor of ‘The Australian’ newspaper even suggested they appoint snitches to inform the police whenever an Australian makes a ‘racist’ comment about the Lebanese Tribe.

    But this is a Genie they can’t keep in a bottle forever. There will come a day when that Editor and others like him will be hanging from lamp posts. I believe eventually there will be murder and mayhem in the streets. It will happen in every White nation and our people will win. Race and Territory are everything, while being ‘Nice’ isn’t anything.

    • Richard IV's Gravatar Richard IV
      March 25, 2011 - 11:22 pm | Permalink

      “It was only stopped by the establishment turning on the Australian youths and calling THEM ‘racist’ for seeking to even the score on the assault on their two Lifeguards”

      Well you see you have identified the problem. Everyone talks about Jews, Lebanese, Blacks, Asians or whatever race as the problem, when it is the White Establishment that wants them in White countries and brings them in their 10s of millions.

      So clearly our race has a problem with treason, which the other races are able to exploit. Once we deal with the treason issue, the other problems will seem as nothing.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 26, 2011 - 9:40 am | Permalink

      @ Floda

      You forgot to mention the significant fact that the Australian newspaper, which tooks sides with the Lebanese trouble makers against the White Australians, is owned by Zionist Jew Rupert Murdoch.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 26, 2011 - 9:44 am | Permalink

      @ Ciaran

      I agree with you that Whites should form an alliance with Muslims again their common enemy: the Jew.

    • Ryan K's Gravatar Ryan K
      March 27, 2011 - 8:47 am | Permalink

      Good point D4 and I see their Treason already has it seed does sprout. Their ugly weird children have been corrupted by the black philosophy they have sown.

    • WNaTion's Gravatar WNaTion
      March 28, 2011 - 12:45 pm | Permalink

      @Richard IV

      “So clearly our race has a problem with treason, which the other races are able to exploit. Once we deal with the treason issue, the other problems will seem as nothing.”

      No our race has a problem with the love of MONEY.

  90. Stephen Palmer's Gravatar Stephen Palmer
    March 25, 2011 - 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Jorg Haader garnered much public support and was starting to make great strides against immigration and the international bankers and roused much nationalism in his constituency and beyond. And like Larry McDonald, Haader became a threat to the political elite and had to be dealt with.

    Representative Larry McDonald of Georgia stood against just about definable aspect of International Jewry. He also initiated congressional investigations into the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. And like Haader, he died in a tragic accident that raises much suspicion about possible Jewish involvement in his death.

    And as a sidenote, I find it amusing that Larry McDonald was on flight “007” when he died, and the inconceivable tragedy that occurred on “911”. I guess the elites are not without a sense of humor.

    • Ryan K's Gravatar Ryan K
      March 27, 2011 - 8:29 am | Permalink

      Have we read ‘The Final Judgement’ ? Then we have 9/11 ? These criminals will kill anyone who stand in their way. Funny you should mention 007 , I was issued a recent credit card will those suffix and a funny passport no…..4707 and a dodgy driver licience no. This is how our ‘Democracy’ operates ….First it is those who disagree with multiculti & Jewish control then its those who disagree with race quotas , then its those who disagree with taxation and then its those who just disagree with any state decree.What about Global warming , what a load of BS , yet the State is lining up to drive their car over those who disagree with this Or more to the point they just ignore the citizens and pass a law and those who disagree get a knock at the door , so to speak. First its fines and then imprisonment AND the state will pretend that its is compassionate if ONLY you would obey the law ,please please , just do what you told you powerless ignoramus , so spoke the arrogant State Lawyer Or TRC toady.This happens in Australia so I would not like to think of our American Brothers who are beset with a corrupt venal Military State that dream of Global domination to protect ….what??. .But I put my comments on this sight because what has been force on the British Canadian and Americans will be enforce here . Its the perfect world where Jews can control everybody else and nobody has the power to disagree.Those at the top are bribed or killed those at the bottom are punished or maimed.

  91. Lew's Gravatar Lew
    March 25, 2011 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

    So if I am understanding this, altruism and universalism confer an evolutionary advantage for Whites as long as these principles are confined to interactions between Whites. But once Whites extend the scope and application of these principles beyond other Whites, they become the basis for racial suicide, though few Whites realize this and instead equate universalism with justice and fairness. Meanwhile, Jews do understand that these principals when applied beyond one’s race will lead to racial suicide and are trafficking on the ignorance of Whites to push them toward exactly that fate. If I am understanding this correctly, the Jewish strategy is sinister.

    Unfortunately, It doesn’t seem like there is much evidence that Whites will ever abandon universalism, even in the face of imminent destruction. Or maybe they can’t if there is an evolutionary impetus driving this impulse. Whites in South Africa certainly don’t seem intent on abandoning universalism any time soon despite very grave circumstances.

    • Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
      March 25, 2011 - 11:35 pm | Permalink

      I’m sorry if this sounds offensive but I think it needs to be said:
      At least 90% of the posts here, including mine, are nothing but the same old quibbling and the same old repetition and whining about getting wiped out. I can’t help but notice a singular lack of enthusiasm for anything which requires a little bit more than just sitting back crying. Maybe I have formed a completely mistaken impression and I certainly hope I have.

      To save ourselves is going to require a lean mean dedication to fight an utterly ruthless enemy who gives no quarter. The time to use every available tactic was yesterday, folks; we’re already far behind. Throw out the TV, folks; it’s nothing but poison for your children’s minds. Don’t let them ‘act black’ with clothes, music, friends and such. There’s a place for more covert tactics but what we most need now is a hard dedicated, polarizing core. Take every opportunity to punish race-mixers in whatever way you legally can. Point out to anyone who’ll listen the hypocritical position of our enemy. Point out that it’s blacks and latino’s who commit most of the crime. Point out what black run government is wherever it’s found. Emphasize everything good about whites, everything bad about other races. If a white act can possibly be defended, defend it. If it can’t be, throw the perp to the wolves. Most of us, including myself, would probably do well to spend more time studying how Hitler took the defeated, jew-controlled wreck that was Germany and turned it around; we also need to study what mistakes were made. But harden up, folks, harden up. No one is going to save us but ourselves.

    • March 26, 2011 - 9:41 am | Permalink

      ‘Unfortunately, It doesn’t seem like there is much evidence that Whites will ever abandon universalism, even in the face of imminent destruction.’

      Whoa there, put down your defeatist tome by Spengler and look at some counter-evidence:

      1.) Whites may say the believe in Universalism, but vote with their feet in what is known as White Flight whenever the ill effects of these policies become evident.

      2.) Organizations such as the ADL and SPLC are busy day and night trying to keep a tamper down on the minority of Whites who have figured out what is going on and are attempting to warn their Racial Kinsmen. If these disgusting anti-White Organizations did not exist we would actually be alot farther along the path of evolving towards a rejection of Universalism

    • Scathach's Gravatar Scathach
      March 26, 2011 - 11:13 am | Permalink

      Actually, Whites are indeed abandoning universalism. I talk to many people, friends, acqaintances, clerks, waitressess, etc., etc., and they know EXACTLY what is happening. The reason it SEEMS as if Whites are not abandoning universalism is because of the media. There is nothing in the media that will promote anything anti-universalist and within a flattering light. Even on pseudo- conservative TV like FOX, the egalitarian mantra is spun day in and day out, with no voice allowed to say, “Hey wait a minute! We are being displaced. They won’t leave on their own accord. Maybe they should be forced”

  92. Dirk de Wit's Gravatar Dirk de Wit
    March 25, 2011 - 9:36 pm | Permalink

    An alliance with zionist jews against muslims will not work as there will be many liberal jews siding with muslims against white europeans. The proportion of zionist versus liberal jews will wax and wane with the success of white europeans versus muslims. They will benefit in playing off both against eachother.

    No need for moral objections against siding with zionist jews. Expediency requires no alliances whatsoever with jews. It won’t work.

    • Ciaran's Gravatar Ciaran
      March 25, 2011 - 10:05 pm | Permalink

      We’d be much better off. in the USA, aligning with Muzzies, against Jews. Not Eutope – the USA.

      Making ANY alliance with ANY Jew is akin to inviting a vampire in to your home, and drain the life’s blood of you, your relatives, your pets, the mice in the wainscotting, the flies on the wall…

      JUST SAY NO!

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 27, 2011 - 9:13 am | Permalink

      Whiteawake: “I’m sorry if this sounds offensive but I think it needs to be said:
      At least 90% of the posts here, including mine, are nothing but the same old quibbling and the same old repetition and whining about getting wiped out.”

      I agree we need to harden up, but here’s “90%” in another context.

      Whites will be a minority in the U.S. by 2050 as black and Hispanic birth rates soar

      By Daily Mail Reporter
      Last updated at 8:58 PM on 25th March 2011

      Whites in America will be outnumbered by 2050 by rising numbers of ethnic minorities, according to official figures.

      Hispanic, black and Asian people accounted for 90 per cent of all births in the U.S. between 2000 and 2010.

      Isn’t that important enough to talk about? Or lamentable enough to complain about?

      Napoleon Bonaparte once said that when people cease to complain they cease to think. Obviously there’s a lot more to thinking than complaining. But it’s also true that if you can get people to shut up about their grievances, if you can make it taboo to discuss the key facts, those who should be aggrieved and active don’t get much effective thinking done.

      We need to think about this. So I think we’ll have to keep talking, and yes complaining about it, whatever else we do.

  93. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    March 25, 2011 - 8:43 pm | Permalink

    If the situation deteriorates and Whites are forced to become much more aggressive in reclaiming their homelands (and they are successful at it), look for many Jews to superficially switch sides and try pass themselves off as one of “us”. They don’t want to be excluded from the superior standard of living in White countries if such a choice has to be made. This is why we must remember their role in bringing this situation about and make sure our children know.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 25, 2011 - 8:51 pm | Permalink

      …look for many Jews to superficially switch sides and try pass themselves off as one of “us”.

      I don’t wish to sound unpleasant at such an early stage in this thread, but haven’t you yourself been repeatedly identified by many of the best posters on this site as one such Jew who is trying to pass yourself off as one of “us”?

    • Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
      March 25, 2011 - 9:03 pm | Permalink

      There is a small noisy group that calls anyone they disagree with Jews. It is often an attempt to mock our concern with Jewish influence and use it against us. Der Angel, who eventually admitted he was a troll who was hostile to this site, used to constantly accuse people he disagreed with of being Jewish. I think you know that. Let it go.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 25, 2011 - 9:53 pm | Permalink

      Der Engel admitted he was a troll? Produce the evidence, Troll! The most notorious Zionist troll on this site is you.

      You’ve been outed repeatedly as a Jew who tries to sound more White Nationalist than even Kevin MacDonald himself. You never lose an opportunity to put in a good word for Israel and defend all its atrocities. You wrote over ONE HUNDRED POSTS yourself recently, on a single thread, sneering at Rachel Corrie and defending her Jewish killers!

      What does that make you: a White Nationalist or a Jew?

      And how is it you don’t attack Kevin MacDonald for praising Rachel Corrie in his very first paragraph? After all, you attacked Lasha Darkmoon in post after post for praising Rachel in her recent article Our Rachel.

      You revealed yoursef as anti-Rachel and you defended her Zionist killers at every opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, that makes you a Jew. Apart from the fact that you take the correct Jewish line on all important matters, including 9-11 and the Protocols — and you also make light of Israeli war crimes.

      Yes, you are the Occidental Observer’s resident Zionist troll. Everyone knows that except newcomers to this site. I am here to out you.

    • Daybreaker's Gravatar Daybreaker
      March 26, 2011 - 3:08 am | Permalink

      In my opinion Jason Speaks is not a troll.

      Also this is not a particularly helpful or pertinent topic.

    • Anonyma's Gravatar Anonyma
      March 26, 2011 - 9:27 am | Permalink

      @ Daybreaker

      In my opinion Jason Speaks is not a troll.

      In my opinion you are a SOCK PUPPET of Jason Speaks! Or a troll yourself.

      “…this is not a particularly helpful or pertinent topic.”

      I’m sure troll activity is a topic which trolls would like to place out of bounds. Good try.

    • Tom's Gravatar Tom
      March 26, 2011 - 10:20 am | Permalink

      Money talks, and bullshit walks. Which of you birds is going to publically pledge to send MacDonald a few dollars for TOO? LOL.

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      March 27, 2011 - 10:51 am | Permalink

      There seems to be quite a disagreement among the “exclude and ignore Jews” crowd and the “include and listen to the “good” Jews” crowd. Daybreak seems to be in the latter; he thinks Jason Speaks is “not a troll” and also believes “Jew Among You” to be a “hero.”

      Jewamong you is a hero in the pro-White movement, as defined by his actions, and he deserves everybody’s respect. Let those who did more than he did to show up and protest the shutting down of the second American Renaissance conference in a row throw the first stone of denigration.

      Count me in the first group. I have no interest in “Jew Among You” and “Jason Speaks” just sounds ridiculous to me.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      March 27, 2011 - 1:25 pm | Permalink

      There might be a possibility for repatriating millions of non-White immigrants but it’s too late for white nations to exclude Jews.

    • Someday's Gravatar Someday
      March 27, 2011 - 4:09 pm | Permalink

      Whites are moral, they will take the moral way out. ‘That would be suicide ‘- well white people do in fact commit suicide so why not white nations ? What Rawls Hath Wrought

      The pursuit of the impossible is too much a part of the modern Western tradition ever to be truly renounced. The idea that utopianism will disappear is itself a utopian dream

    • Rich Pearson's Gravatar Rich Pearson
      March 27, 2011 - 4:35 pm | Permalink

      captainchaos

      “allow Jews their input but browbeat them mercilessly for it”

      Any blog, not to mention one as controversial as this, is going to have “trolls” and it comes with the territory. I mean in our “movement” we should exclude Jews, and ignore any of their concerns.

      Whites need to position ourselves on both sides of every issue, so no matter how it turns out, we win. We must demand proportional representation and our rights under a multicultural regime. At the same time, we must demand our own exclusive nations. We must demand both that Jews go to Israel, and call Israel on the carpet for their exclusion of others.

      Since we are not trying to win an argument, nor trying to prove how “fair” we are, we should not worry about being “consistent.” We should simply be “consistent” in asking and advocating “what is good for White people.”

      Now those who are more conservative, take the conservative side, and those more liberal, take the liberal option.

      There was a piece (somewhere) a while back about a journalist posing as a potential donor to a Jewish charity/political group. The man taking the call asked the journalist, “I’m secular, are you liberal? No? If you are religious, I can connect you with Rabbi so-and-so, he’s quite orthodox.”

      Seems like a good strategy to me.

    • john's Gravatar john
      March 27, 2011 - 7:28 pm | Permalink

      Actually, Jews realize that they will never be targeted for any type of repatriation at this point (which would probably be Israel). That is unless white societies kick everyone else first. It would be much easier for the Netherlands to remove all the Muslims than to remove the Jews. I’m not going to get into the reasons why, because anyone who reads this blog knows why.

      The fear that the Jews have is that once all the minorities are gone, they will be next. And honestly, they deserve to go. Western societies need to purge themselves of the Jews, not through some sort of Holocaust, but through removal and expulsion. Once they are expelled, these societies must remain vigilant because the Jew is forever trying to worm itself back into Western societies to exploit them allover again. It’s basically written in the DNA of the Jew. You can already see them inching back into Germany, and why not? They are probably safer there than anywhere else, and free to exploit the people there like never before. Convict a Jew for money laundering, organ trafficking, prostitution? Anti-semite!

      Many of them look at someone like Marie La Pen and they see Hitler all over again. Right now she is playing up her love for the Jews because she knows she must to get into a position of power. Maybe she isn’t anti-semitic, although her father certainly was. Regardless on her stance on Jews, she would never come out and say she dislikes them because that would be political suicide. In the meantime, the Jews of France will probably not take any chances on her and will do all in their power to take her out.

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