Rick Perry and the Jews

More evidence, as if any were needed, that Jews form a hostile elite comes from an article in, of all places, The Chronicle of Higher Education (“Rick Perry and the Jews: An Introduction,” by Jacques Berlinerblau. First, that Jews are an elite:

They are small in number …. But it would be an error to think of Jews solely in terms of numbers. Their value lies in their organizational and intellectual assets. Jewish political groups are generous donors and formidable coalition-builders. Too, they are disproportionately represented among the nation’s opinion makers.

Right. Jews are a media-dominant group, and the usual wisdom is that Jews contribute around 75% of the money for Democrats and around 40% for Republicans. The problem that Jews have with Perry is first of all that he is a serious Christian:

[Perry's recent Christian prayer rally left nearly all [Jews]—including Republicans—with concerns. Note to Perry handlers: Jews love ecumenical America [and multi-racial America--the rationale for Jewish support of massive non-White immigration]. Jews fear Christian (as in Evangelical Protestant) America. Jewish neo-Conservatives are not an exception to this rule. Mitt Romney can go to town here. Members of the Tribe will feel that he understands what it means to run afoul of the majority.

Jews fear (and loathe) an America that takes Christianity seriously. For Jews, serious Christianity immediately conjures up pogroms, marauding Crusaders, Inquisitions, and blood libel. The Middle Ages as past, present, and future.  Historical memory etched in stone.

Jews are also impervious to the charms of “small-town America” solicitations the likes of which Sarah Palin employed in 2008.

Of course, there is a big overlap between small-town America and evangelical Christianity. This battle against rural America has a long history among Jews.

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For example, the New York Intellectuals of the 1940s and ’50s associated rural America with

nativism, anti-Semitism, nationalism, and fascism as well as with anti-intellectualism and provincialism; the urban was associated antithetically with ethnic and cultural tolerance, with internationalism, and with advanced ideas. . . . The New York Intellectuals simply began with the assumption that the rural—with which they associated much of American tradition and most of the territory beyond New York—had little to contribute to a cosmopolitan culture. . . . By interpreting cultural and political issues through the urban-rural lens, writers could even mask assertions of superiority and expressions of anti-democratic sentiments as the judgments of an objective expertise. (Cooney 1986, 267–268; italics in text)

The anti-democratic sentiments noted by Cooney fit well with Berlinerblau’s comment that “Jewish voters …  prefer cities and federal governments to backwaters and volatile statehouses. … All things equal, Jews like strong central governments, not a pastiche of local decision makers catering to majorities.”

A yes, those pesky majorities. Much better to have top-down control where voters don’t have much of a say on important issues like immigration policy where courts routinely overrule populist measures supported by majorities in states like California and (at least so far) in Arizona. (Perry seems soft on immigration, although there are signs he is moving to more of a patriotic position.) Populism is anathema to Jews. It’s much easier to have decisive influence on the federal government than on 50 state governments, some of which may get uppity from time to time.

Rick Perry has been a strong advocate of states rights, even suggesting secession as a possibility. In the video below, addressing a Tea Party rally, he says that “Texans know best how to govern Texas.” And quoting Sam Houston:  “Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression come from what source it may.”

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgahd_k2ZBE

Definitely a problem for Jewish voters.

Right now there is a culture clash going on in the Republican Party. The LATimes phrases it this way: “Rick Perry and Mitt Romney showcase a Republican divide; Perry and Romney — brash populist versus starchy elite — illustrate a perpetual Republican cultural gap that may define the GOP presidential contest.”

Ah, there’s that word ‘populist’ describing Perry–a sure recipe for fervent opposition by Jews even though Perry has the typical Evangelical blinders about Israel–what Berlinerbrau terms his “unqualified support for the current government of Israel.”

The clash is between the old guard, country club Republicans with the present day implicitly White middle- and lower-middle class Whites who are indispensable to the success of the party and are angry that the country is being taken away from them (but deeply confused about what to do about it).

Whether they acknowledge it or not, Republicans are the White people’s party. They would be well-advised to take steps to maintain a White majority while there is still time and while popular attitudes still count for something. Because it’s clear that our new elite is quite hostile both toward both the dwindling White majority and to their attitudes on vital issues like immigration, states rights, and the power of the federal government.

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82 Comments to "Rick Perry and the Jews"

  1. teutonic1's Gravatar teutonic1
    September 27, 2011 - 11:52 pm | Permalink

    We don’t vote in POTUS anyway.

    Since when does anyone think that they will let the American people put in who they want?

    Voting is all window-dressing, meant to let us think we have power. They put in who they want as a frontman. The real power is behind the curtains.

  2. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    September 23, 2011 - 9:40 am | Permalink

    Both Perry and Mitt are Jewish Lobby’s whores. Instead of openly kissing Jewish donors’ shoes, like Obama – they’re taking their cases to extremist and Zionist Christians who supports Israel for their stupid interpretation of biblical events about the second-coming of Jesus.

    However, by virtue of his speech, the half-White President Obama may have out bided both Perry and Mitt. Obama has been praised by BiBi and the President of AJC as “Israel’s best friend”. His position was more solidified next day, when Israel-Firster Black Susan Rice lead 30-member walkout during Iranian President’s speech at the UN General Assembly.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/ahmadinejad-spoke-like-prophet-of-peace/

  3. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    September 11, 2011 - 9:06 am | Permalink

    Rick Perry “a serious Christian”??? Doc. you got to be kidding – unless you believe all 65 million Evangelists are “serious Christians”.

    Jews don’t have any problem with Governor Perry. The dude is a pro-Israel Zionist Christian. John Hagee was one of speakers at Perry’s Christian Prayer meeting at Reliant stadium in Houston last month. Perry, the “serious Christian” also has the honor of presiding over 234 executions of Christians.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/us-report-iran-executes-gays-and-lesbians/

  4. Hasbara Matata's Gravatar Hasbara Matata
    September 8, 2011 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Perry is another Christian Zionist, globalist, corporatist, intellectual mediocrity– arguably worse than GWB, who at least looks to have figured out what time it was some point during his second term.

    Obviously Perry did his obsequience before AIPAC and those who matter to Tel Aviv, was vetted by the Tribe; which is why he seemed to have appeared from nowhere, suddenly to be pimped by the mainstein media as the Republican frontrunner.

    And Doug Feith as his foreign policy advisor? Wow. Just wow.

    God help us all.

  5. Davis Stuyvesant's Gravatar Davis Stuyvesant
    September 7, 2011 - 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Ron Paul is the only logical choice we have.End The FED and End The Wars for Israel. That’s enough for me to support him.

  6. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    September 6, 2011 - 11:00 pm | Permalink
  7. Stan's Gravatar Stan
    August 31, 2011 - 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Everytime a conservative candidate like Michelle Bachmann or Pat Buchanan gain momentum neocon strategists find a Alan keyes or Rick Perry to disrupt their success. Rick Perry has surrounded himself with Douglas Feith and other neocons.

  8. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    August 31, 2011 - 5:38 am | Permalink

    @Aprilia: The attitude toward Mexico and its people is quite different among Texans — and in New Mexico — from that prevailing in Arizona and of course California. Don’t blame Rick Perry for reflecting the general closeness toward Mexico that is felt in much of Texas, in the southern part of the State, particularly, where nearly everyone white and chicano speaks Spanish and enjoys the cuisine called Tex-Mex.

  9. Al Pastore's Gravatar Al Pastore
    August 30, 2011 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Kevin,

    The Jewish media “attacks” on Perry serve the purpose of “sheep dipping” him for gullible conservatives… “Golly gee…them libruls sure do hate that Perry guy. Ima have to vote for that fella!”

    You will know when the jews truly fear someone when they IGNORE him……like Ron Paul.

  10. John's Gravatar John
    August 30, 2011 - 1:58 am | Permalink

    In your fantasy politics league as well …you know who is playing …Now Romney… to Freak Perry..back to Bachman? sheep…to ..Romney…again…media flash….onside kick…hurry-up in offense Ron Paul…the crowds roar! Genuine.Real.
    Quick uppercut..Romney down on the touch line…more complicated…kick..Freak Perry beggin… Santorum squeelin..ball..again to Sarah,she’s panting ….Cain..cookin..Ron Paul jumps…left elbow…bulldoze..catches….the ball..shoots..Goal…Game’s over.RP wins!

  11. m_astera's Gravatar m_astera
    August 30, 2011 - 12:19 am | Permalink

    Perry is beyond obvious, a political whore of the cheapest variety who cares nothing about anything except what’s in it for him.

    An interesting thing I’ve been noticing about the body politic, or, for that matter, any government contract or job, is that it is so crawling with maggots that none but another maggot or egg layer would think of diving into the rotting corpse. Decent people wisely shy away. I think we have achieved terminal corruption worldwide.

  12. josef's Gravatar josef
    August 29, 2011 - 4:41 pm | Permalink

    well, I read all of the comments. I re-read the article several times.

    the following is how I believe

    I worship God, the Christ Jesus, and pray to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

    I am not ashamed to be a white skin, blue eye, fair hair, Caucasian WHite , heterosexual Male. in fact, anyone who tells me I should be ashamed, or who says I share “Collective Guilt”, I usually instruct as to how they should have sexual intercourse with themselves.

    I actually voted for the mulatto who is now the President of the USA, so ANY ‘white guilt’ I may have had is now completely erased.

    lastly, having read completely through the Constitution of the USA WAY back in 8th f=grade, where our history teacher was a white Marine Veteran, I still happen to hold with that specific form of government.

    oh yeah, I almost forgot. I have no sympathy for collectivism in any way , shape or form. I am an Individual Human Being. not some “unit” for some anal duct of a college professor, nor any politician.

    I will continue to live my life accordingly.

    my credentials

    USMC 69-70 72-76

    Bachelor of Arts degree in the GI Bill

    employed all my life

    nuff said

  13. Fortress Europa's Gravatar Fortress Europa
    August 29, 2011 - 2:53 am | Permalink

    The No1 issue is Zionisem/War, and the Judiezing of the Western World since the cataclysem of 1945.All of the other issues.Who gets a tax cut.or someones ability to buy thousands of guns a month,and’of course that conservative favorite;GOD, are mere trifles that have divided and made impudent any fight against the real enemy which rules us.Since 1994;the GOP is wholly a creature of the Neoconservative/Fundementilist coalition.FOX NEWS (RothchildBronfman)and rabid talk show hosts,along with loathsome bible thumping preechers.There is little divide in the GOP.The last attempts of a true patriot;Pat Buchanan, to create a traditional pragmatic conservative wing of that party; failed twice, in a hail of Neoconservative Jewish attacks.The Republican electorate,supposidly so suspicious of ‘the media’ate it up,especially when the vitrole was delivered by Limbaughs,Bennets,and Buckleys.The present GOP controllers.All ex -Marxist Jews now in the pay of there Wall Street brethren know how to stir up the masses. It’s obvious that is Governor Perry of Texas;Bush 2 redux, has been given the Zionist seal of approval.Any comments he might make concearning;’The Federal Reserve’,and’States Rights’are mere asides like George W.s”We must be humble in foreign policy’,and ‘America makes poor nation builders’.Rick Perry and all of the rest in the GOP field,including that no-win old,gadfly Ron Paul are either insane;Bachman,Gingrich,or plastic,Romney,Huntsman.

  14. Max's Gravatar Max
    August 29, 2011 - 2:05 am | Permalink

    LOL, yeah and the bankers spread that they were against the Federal Reserve so that people would think it was good but was just a ruse. Perry was at the special Israeli Bilderberger meeting with Lord Rothschild after the meeting that was in Greece.

  15. Matt Cusumano's Gravatar Matt Cusumano
    August 29, 2011 - 1:39 am | Permalink

    If Perry is elected you can expect more Military Tribunals, with secret evidence, guilty till proven innocent, and then still guilty.
    He’s going to push the Muslim vs Christian paradigm (which is a contrived conflict, designed to provide support for our military adventurism in the middle east). Perry will push for war with Iran. He will support the international bankers in every regard. We should each be appalled that the U.S. engages in Torture.

  16. Matt Cusumano's Gravatar Matt Cusumano
    August 29, 2011 - 1:36 am | Permalink

    Some people were promoting the idea that Obama was anti-Israel, and a closet Muslim. This is called mis-direction. If people think Obama is a closeted Muslim, they won’t question his actions when he provides support for Israel, and does their bidding, because we all think he’s anti-Israel. This is a technique, nothing more. If people are saying the Jews oppose Perry, it means they probably support him. They are inoculating him politically. Right now Obama can do anything on behalf of Israel, and if anyone questions it, you just hear more stories about how the Jews don’t like Obama, and how he’s really a Muslim in disguise. It’s effective, very effective. So much so, most people reading this won’t understand the tactic, and think I’m crazy for pointing it out. Now that’s an effective Tactic!

  17. Matt Cusumano's Gravatar Matt Cusumano
    August 29, 2011 - 1:33 am | Permalink

    I don’t believe Perry would be a good president because he’s obviously very Pro war, pro intervention, and he’s bullish on the War On Terror, which I think is based on false flag events. I believe Perry would support Torture.

  18. Atheling's Gravatar Atheling
    August 27, 2011 - 8:17 pm | Permalink

    @Nordic: Heyya

    Ron Paul, thankfully, is no neocon on immigration:

    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

  19. Michael Hardesty's Gravatar Michael Hardesty
    August 26, 2011 - 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Indeed, Felix. Perry is just a louder mouth rerun of W.

  20. Felix Grubel's Gravatar Felix Grubel
    August 26, 2011 - 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Read my lips. No new Texans.

  21. Facio Libre's Gravatar Facio Libre
    August 26, 2011 - 7:33 am | Permalink

    Rick Perry and the Jews for the brain dead..
    (the good part is near the bottom part of this very informative article) – enjoy!

    http://www.augustforecast.com/2011/08/16/rick-perry-tied-to-agenda-21-globalist-policies/

  22. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    August 26, 2011 - 4:33 am | Permalink

    @omop:

    Douglas Feith…is advising Rick Perry on foreign policy.

    There has been in the history of mankind nothing more fatal than the phenomenon of the “Jewish adviser”.Douglas Feith was one of the major architects of the disastrous Iraq war.If – God forbid – Perry becomes president and Feith remains his adviser,then that would result in a war on Iran.That would mean not only the destruction of Iran,but of the US as well (at least economically so),possibly even lead to WW lll (If China and Russia get involved).Please!No more Jewish advisers!

  23. omop's Gravatar omop
    August 25, 2011 - 6:05 pm | Permalink

    According to press reports in Texas, Douglas Feith….famous for being along with Richard Perle, the Wurmsers and friends the authors of ” The Clean Break Plan” a Bibi Bethanyahu project to ensure Israel’s safety by invading Iraq, Syria and Iran… is advising Rick Perry on foreign policy.

    If played right Perry could get hisself a ” jews for Perry” blog like Sarah Palin did. He already is well set with the group that is awaiting the Rapture’s end of time postponed from May 2011 to October 21, 2011.

  24. Voir Dire's Gravatar Voir Dire
    August 25, 2011 - 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Rick Perry is another establishment candidate and self-aggrandizing piece-of-garbage politician who has no principles whatsoever:

    Rick Perry accused of hypocrisy as he comes under fire for investment in America’s largest pornography distributor
    By JOHN STEVENS
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028353/Rick-Perry-comes-investment-Americas-largest-pornography-distributor.html#ixzz1W4lkkMnI

    RICK PERRY’S TEXAS ECONOMIC MIRACLE? (The following analysis and sources are from financial analyst James Quinn’s blog http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=20214

    I don’t know about you, but in the last week I’ve heard that Rick Perry has single handedly created 40% of all the jobs in America since he’s been governor of Texas. Fox News says it five times per hour.

    Whenever I hear something over and over from the corporate MSM, I start to smell bullshit. I decided to dig into the figures to see the real picture of Rick Perry’s economic miracle. This is what I found:

    The number of employed Americans in 2000 was 136.9 million and today there are 139.3 million people employed for a net increase of 2.4 million. The number of Texans employed in 2000 was 9.9 million. Today there are 11.3 million employed for a net increase of 1.4 million. This means that 58% of all the new jobs created since 2000 were in Texas. This is the positive storyline for Perry.

    The unemployment rate when Perry assumed power was 4.2%. Today, Texas’ unemployment rate is 8.2%.

    In 2007 Texas had 510,000 unemployed and their unemployment rate was 4.4%. Today, there are 1 million Texans unemployed and the rate is 8.2%.

    The National unemployment rate in November 2010 was 9.8% and has fallen to 9.1%. Over this same time frame Texas’ rate has fallen from 8.3% to 8.2%.

    The percentage of Texans in the labor force has fallen from 68.1% when Perry took office to 65.9% today. This is the lowest level since 1979.

    The percentage of Texans employed has fallen from 65.1% when Perry took office to an all-time low of 60.5% today.

    The national recession supposedly ended in December 2009. Since that date, there are 25,000 MORE Texans unemployed.

    When you dig into the data, the economic miracle isn’t exactly Jesus loaves and fishes material. The truth is that the population of Texas has surged from 15.2 million to 18.6 million during Perry’s term, a 22% increase. The number of employed Texans went from 9.9 million to 11.3 million, a 14% increase.

    This is pretty weak compared to the population gain. The working age population of the US went from 212.6 million to 239.7 million, a 13% increase. It seems pretty clear to me that the jobs miracle in Texas had nothing to do with Perry. It had to do with a surge in population. The job creation actually lagged population growth dramatically.

    The story below describes how Perry lucked into a good economy throughout his 11 years in office. He can thank his buddy George W. for invading the Middle East and driving oil prices from $25 a barrel to $100 a barrel benefitting the oil and gas industry in Texas. Secondly, the development of fracking created a boom in natural gas extraction, creating huge tax revenue for the state. Perry had nothing to do with these beneficial developments. His state is highly dependent on oil and gas. A deep recession that knocks the price of oil and gas down would severely damage the Texas economy.

    He takes credit for the low taxes, but Texas didn’t have an income tax when he got into office. Somehow, with all the luck he had, he still managed to create a $27 billion budget deficit. The best that can be said about Perry is he didn’t tinker with a good thing. But he did not create an economic miracle in Texas.

    http://www.bls.gov/lau/staadata.txt

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST48000003

    Having at one time lived in Texas for 23 years, I have been a longtime fan and supporter of Ron Paul for most of my adult life. He may not be perfect in the sense of what we desire in having candidates who are racially conscious and aware of the white-replacement policies steadfastly underway, but he is as close to perfection as we are likely to get today with regards to integrity. He is the only politician with a 100% conservative voting record in upholding the Constitution. He has at least stated that our immigration policies should be tied to our economic needs, and I don’t think anyone could make the case that we should continue with our current criminal policies of 1 million immigrants per year in the face of 30 million unemployed/underemployed Americans with absolutely no new jobs being created. It is at least a sensible policy relative to the treachery being practiced NOW.

    Most importantly, he has been in the trenches fighting the central bankers (at times, single-handedly) for 30+ years. The following pieces are imperative reading for understanding the theft from and destruction to the middle-classes and Ron Paul’s long-time genuine friendship to and warrior on behalf of the American people:

    Ben Bernanke Pledges To Screw Your Grandmother For At Least Two More Years
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article29890.html

    Fed Sugar Daddy Providing Free Money to the Banks
    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article28421.html

    FISTFUL OF DOLLARS PART II
    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15003

    THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY PART III
    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15246

    OUTLAW JOSEY WALES PART IV
    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15909

    UNFORGIVEN PART V
    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=16575

  25. Aprilia's Gravatar Aprilia
    August 25, 2011 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

    @Michael Hardesty:
    Perry is a total Zionist, warmonger, open borders advocate and tried through that international highway in Texas via eminent domain.

    That’s an important thing to bring up.

    Perry’s support of the NAFTA Superhighway is part of a general pattern of George W. Bush-like positions on anything having to do with America’s relations with Mexico.

    To quote from a recent article by Tom Tancredo:

    Perry opposed Arizona’s tough anti-illegal immigration law SB 1070. “I have concerns,” he explained, “with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.”

    He spoke out last year against using E-Verify to prevent illegal immigrants from getting jobs as state employees, who get their paychecks from the taxpayers. He insisted it “would not make a hill of beans’ difference.”

    Numbers USA, a group that supports immigration control, gives Perry a “D-” for his positions supporting amnesty, open borders, and opposing border security.

    Perry, in a speech in Mexico in 2007, said he supports completely open borders, calling for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”

    In the same speech he came out against building a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border.Perry also came out in favor of blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants in 2006, albeit without citizenship, supporting “a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contribution.”

    Despite all his talk about sovereignty and states’ rights, Perry proposed the Trans-Texas Corridor. This toll road would go through Mexico, but be run together with the Mexican government in the middle of Texas.

    While I was in Congress, I co-sponsored the H.C. Res. 487 to block the creation of this highway. Fortunately our efforts in Congress, along with the work of conservatives in the Texas legislature, derailed Perry’s sovereignty sacrificing scheme.

    Perry’s views here are at odds with the vast majority of Americans–and virtually all Republican voters. While he opposes E-Verify for even state employees, 82 percent of all voters, and 91 percent of Republicans, support E-Verify for all employees.

    While Perry opposes the border fence, 68 percent of all voters, and 86 percent of Republicans, support the fence. While Perry opposes the Arizona law, SB 1070, voters want 1070 in their state by a 2-1 margin–including 86 percent of all Republicans.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html

  26. Michael Hardesty's Gravatar Michael Hardesty
    August 25, 2011 - 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Ron Paul’s our only hope. Perry is a total Zionist, warmonger, open borders advocate and tried through
    that international highway in Texas via eminent domain.
    Most jobs there are government jobs contrary to Perry’s
    phony capitalist rhetoric. A total fraud.

  27. Bohemainh's Gravatar Bohemainh
    August 25, 2011 - 10:39 am | Permalink

    perry is a joke a hot air balloon, one prick and he is done.

    Ron Paul is the only choice remotely respectful of White America.

  28. mari's Gravatar mari
    August 24, 2011 - 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Sanjay. Stalin had 3 wives. All were Jews. Obviously his descendants have plenty of Jewish DNA.

  29. mari's Gravatar mari
    August 24, 2011 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Free Thinker
    How about RCJ Russian Commie Jew?

    Almost all the anti White anti American Jews are descendants of the Jewish commie Russian 1880-1925 invasions.

  30. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    August 24, 2011 - 12:35 am | Permalink

    @ Sam Davidson

    Ever notice how AIPAC talking points can be spotted even from the dark side of planet Pluto ?

  31. August 23, 2011 - 11:55 pm | Permalink

    Most of you are missing the point about about Perry, who is good on only two issues: States’ Rights and Gun Rights. Since the only way we are ever going to get rid of the ZOG is thru state secessions & Civil War II – bullets, not ballots – he’s perfect for us. Especially if he wins the popular vote but loses narrowly to the Kenyan in the electoral college. Perry….Polarizes. Which is why the Jews hate his guts. 1860=2012. Gunfighter Nation.

  32. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    August 23, 2011 - 10:18 pm | Permalink

    @Gabor: Hungary needs **less** nationalism, not more. Without the weight of the Soviet Union behind it — and buying its products — or union with a more “Western” nation like Austria, Hungary must revert to the peasant society it had been before 1945.

    Some Hungarian manufactures are first class: Ikara buses, television sets, but factories need modernization to compete globally.

  33. European's Gravatar European
    August 23, 2011 - 4:23 pm | Permalink

    @Old Glory:
    He is one and been on this site for a long time.

  34. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    August 23, 2011 - 3:20 pm | Permalink

    @Gabor: It’s very, very kind of you to reply at length, Gabor. I know, of course, how proud Hungarians are of Liszt—and how proud he was to be Hungarian—and I left him off my list simply because I was thinking of musicians and composers active in my lifetime.

    I appreciate, too, your reminder about Lehar, and I am glad to learn of Erkel, whose name was unknown to me.

    Incidentally, my principal interest was in whether the native Hungarian estimation of these musicians corresponded with their relative rankings in western Europe or here in the States. I never doubted that Hungarians treated Jewish Hungarians fairly. As we all well know, despite the Jews’ endless complaints to the contrary, there is no country in Europe or the Western Hemisphere where they have suffered disproportionately to the harm they do and have done.

    Finally, thanks for your other reply. The geopolitical clarification was most helpful. I once had a Hungarian-speaking friend who kept me au courant on matters Hungarian, but he passed away a decade ago. My friend, a professor of English by trade, was a Catholic, like me, and grew up in the forties speaking Hungarian since his parents were immigrants.

  35. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    August 23, 2011 - 3:08 pm | Permalink

    @Gabor: Actually it was rogue elements within Romanian **counter**intelligence, Gaby. Once again, they have thwarted Operation **Mamalizhnik**, the continuing attempt by Hungarian intelligence to adulterate the cheese used to flavor Romania’s national dish.

  36. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    August 23, 2011 - 2:51 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: As you will surely see, I am not the best qualified person to answer your questions regarding music. I only started to listen to classical music quite recently (like maybe last year), and I mostly listen to baroque composers like Bach and Vivaldi. (Classical music only takes up maybe a quarter of my music listening time. I still listen to a lot of more modern styles like martial industrial/military pop/neofolk or metal.)

    Some of the names you mention were unknown to me. In Hungary, the composer who is considered the greatest of all Hungarian composers, is someone whom you probably wouldn’t consider Hungarian at all: that’s Franz Liszt. I know he was an ethnic German (on my father’s side I’m also one), and that he couldn’t really speak Hungarian (as opposed French, which he considered his first language, and some other languages like German which he could speak fluently), but he was born in Hungary, and he did make some remarks to the effect that he was Hungarian. (Although I’m aware he made some other remarks as well.) The main music academy in Budapest (which he lead in his later years) is named after him. If you disqualify Liszt on the ground that he was not Hungarian, the next greatest might be Béla Bartók. The classical music radio channel of the public radio broadcaster is named after him. Zoltán Kodály is also very well-known. I would say besides the above mentioned, a layperson would surely be able to name Ferenc (Franz) Erkel, possibly Ferenc (Franz) Lehár (again, ethnically German), and some others from your list. But it seems to me that at least in the Hungarian curriculum there’s no bias towards Jewish musicians and composers. However, most of the music curriculum consists of foreign composers, and the non-foreign part is also largely Hungarian folk music.

    I hope this helps.

  37. Felix Grubel's Gravatar Felix Grubel
    August 23, 2011 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

    @European:

    There is nothing elite about the “elite,” which is precisely when one refers to our “elite” and our “leaders,” ironic quotes should always be used.

    With the rise of the internet and alternative media suspending disbelief is no longer possible and a thinking man can no longer pretend that he really is governed by the “best” and “brightest” or anything even close.

  38. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    August 23, 2011 - 9:36 am | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Hungary is infiltrated by Israel, however, Hungary is not very useful to Israel. Unlike the US, Israel cannot expect billions of dollars of aid from us, they cannot expect military or even civilian technologies, etc. We will not become the primary focus of the hate of Arab countries, unlike the US, as a result of our support of Israeli interests. Hungarian and Israeli interests are not the same, but Israel is a relatively minor concern for Hungary. In short, for Hungary, it might be a good bargain to increase our support of Israel in exchange for Jewish support of Hungarian nationalism, whereas for the US, it might not.

    I will answer to the rest later.

  39. Sam Davidson's Gravatar Sam Davidson
    August 23, 2011 - 9:27 am | Permalink

    Rick Perry supports the latest U.S. destabilization in the Middle East:

    “The Obama Administration’s call for Syrian President Assad to step down is long overdue. President Assad threatens the safety and security not only of the Syrian people, but the entire Middle East. He also supports terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Hamas. Every diplomatic option should be brought to bear to prevent President Assad from wreaking further violence on his people and the region.”

    From:
    http://www.rickperry.org/news/statement-by-gov-rick-perry-on-syria/

  40. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    August 23, 2011 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    @Someday: I see that, however, nothing could be further from ethnic nationalism than being slaves of another nation. And the US-Israel relationship does look like a slave-master relationship, believe me.

    I agree with you that most anti-Israel types are totally useless (universalist leftists), but that does not mean automatic support for US aid to Israel, or anything like that. It’s just that we needn’t hate Israel only because they kick out African asylum seekers. But there is a conflict of interest: Israel doesn’t really like European ethno-nationalism (cf. their response to Haider). And opposition to another nationalism is normally a boost to nationalism. Opposition to (anti-Hungarian) Slovakian nationalism actually helped Hungarian nationalism. (And probably vice versa.)

    Israel has the right to fend for herself. She doesn’t have the right to lavish US aid.

  41. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    August 23, 2011 - 9:04 am | Permalink

    @Caleb: Dear Caleb, you might find it hilarious, but even small countries like Hungary or even tiny Israel have vital national interests. E.g. a few years ago there was a scandal involving two government ministers (one of them happened to be Jewish) who were romantically involved with a woman, who turned out to be a member of the Romanian intelligence. If you think it’s only the recipe for goulash, you should tell the Romanian intelligence. They might appreciate it, since apparently they are wasting precious resources on spying on us…

  42. Caleb's Gravatar Caleb
    August 23, 2011 - 1:44 am | Permalink

    @Gabor: What “secrets” does Hungary have that are worth stealing? Ah, yes! The secret recipe for **gulyas**.

  43. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    August 23, 2011 - 1:27 am | Permalink

    @Jarvis Dingle-Daden:

    I personally feel the Israeli art student story is a bit of a red herring (otherwise it never would have been covered in the press, Fox and Forward, if I recall correctly).
    http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/03/limits-of-ketchams-counterpunchs.html

  44. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    August 23, 2011 - 12:18 am | Permalink

    According to accounts read by yours truly in the early 2000s, the Israeli ‘art students’ were deported on the orders of John ‘Jesus Lives Behind My Curtain’ Ashcroft.
    In semi-related news: emperor Michael Bloomberg who never met a tax he wasn’t itching to hike, apparently has no interest in seeing 9-11 responders attend 10th anniversary event.

  45. August 22, 2011 - 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Actually, Jews use Evangelicals as fundraisers, threatening themselves with the fear of the white Protestant as a fundraising gimmick. What they fear is the Catholic Church. Organized white Christianity that has put divisions in the field before. Look at the Crusades. That is why the relentless attack on the Church, and their support for the fragmentation of Christianity, e.g. Protestantism. It explains their support for Bolshevism and the French Revolution.

    They fear their organized opposition.

  46. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    August 22, 2011 - 10:10 pm | Permalink

    @Trenchant: When the topic is Rick Perry, Trenchant, “going off topic” = “trying to stay sane.”

  47. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    August 22, 2011 - 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Off topic, granted, but amusing:
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/08/21/antiwar-com-vs-the-fbi/

    Seems Raimondo’s interest in Israeli movers and art students around 9/11 got him a gaggle of FBI fans. Wonder how big the TOO file is?

  48. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    August 22, 2011 - 9:49 pm | Permalink

    @Anon2:
    9/11 as blowback is not credible.

  49. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    August 22, 2011 - 9:14 pm | Permalink

    @Gabor: Your first paragraph above begins with a sentence—“For Hungary, Israel is irrelevant and a foreign policy issue”—that seems to be in conflict with its last sentence: “I think Hungary is infiltrated to the core by the Israelis, just like the U.S.” I am sure that you are not suggesting that infiltration “to the core” is irrelevant. Could you mean that many Hungarians are simply blind to Israeli/Jewish infiltration and subversion? Were that the case, sadly, Hungary would be in the same boat with 90 percent of America’s white Christians and perhaps still higher percentages of other groups (including Muslims, whatever Rehmat may say).

    My next query is away off topic, but I shall ask it anyway, since participating in a discussion about Rick Perry is as fruitful as sitting in the dark listening to one’s beard grow. Do you have an interest in music, Gabor? (I mean real music; what people now call “classical” music.) I ask because, as you must know, during the past hundred years the number of distinguished musicians of Hungarian birth has been wildly disproportionate to your nation’s size. Yet an uncomfortably large number of famous Hungarians have been ethnically Jewish rather than Magyar: Georg Solti, Fritz Reiner, the various (albeit unrelated) Fischers—Annie, Ádám, and Iván—André Gertler, Eugene Ormandy, István Kertész, Leó Weiner, and the composer György Ligeti. (There is also George Szell, of whose ethnicity I know nothing; he was certainly cruel and domineering enough to be Jewish though!) On the other side of the ledger, of course, one finds Antal Doráti, Sandor Végh, Júlia Várady, Zóltan Kocsis, György Sándor, György Cziffra père et fils, Géza Anda, Tamás Vásáry, several Dohnányis, and many others, preeminent among them being the composers Béla Bartók and Zóltan Kodaly. Yet in the American concertgoer’s mind (even if he’s not a Jew), the names Solti and Reiner lead all the rest.

    I am wondering whether these musicians were esteemed to the same extent and in the same relative proportions in Hungary as they were in the Jewish-controlled musical world west of the Austrian-Hungarian border. It’s interesting that, in the older generation, neither Annie Fischer nor André Gertler had American careers at all comparable with their European fame, despite their Jewishness, yet it seems to me that Vásáry, who came to public notice at the same time I began going to concerts fifty years ago, had a career that was stymied for no reason discernible to me—it certainly wasn’t lack of talent!

    Any comments you have will be gratefully received.

  50. Venona's Gravatar Venona
    August 22, 2011 - 8:59 pm | Permalink

    The fact that Rick Perry is getting loads of media attention makes me skeptical of him as a candidate. If he were anything other than a neocon stooge and Israel-first toady, God’s Chosen People would be giving him zero media coverage.

    With each successive Republican administration, from Nixon to Reagan to Bush I to Bush II, the president has become less and less concerned about the fate of white people. Maybe I’m wrong, but I see no Republican candidate on the horizon that will buck this trend.

    Provided none of the five conservative Supreme Court justices need to be replaced between now and 2016, I’d almost say we’re better off with the inept mulatto at the helm of our sinking ship.

  51. Old Glory's Gravatar Old Glory
    August 22, 2011 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Someday, it seems as though you are a filthy jew.

  52. Nordic's Gravatar Nordic
    August 22, 2011 - 7:54 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:

    We already have a one-way tidal wave of Metiztos. Romney could possibly be forced to wake up, Perry, no way, Bush clone. Romney is a flip-flopper, he goes the way the wind blows. And it should be blowing for American Sovergnty pretty soon, we hope.

  53. Nordic's Gravatar Nordic
    August 22, 2011 - 7:50 pm | Permalink

    @Louis Stouch:

    Sorry, but Ron Paul Supports Open Borders. Bit issue a few months ago.

  54. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    August 22, 2011 - 7:40 pm | Permalink

    @Free Thinker:
    The Eastren European Jews do have racial problem in Israel – but it comes to Christianity both are united as a great fist. Eastern Jews on the other hand are less hostile toward Muslims for being lived among Muslim societies for many centuries.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/jewish-racism-against-jews-in-israel/

  55. iboTTs's Gravatar iboTTs
    August 22, 2011 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    If anyone’s ever read Jewish literature, then “hostile” towards non-Jews just isn’t a good enough word to describe such horrors. Evil is more appropriate. And when you realize that the Jewish elites who control America are also dictators who ignore the majority’s wishes, immigration reform, then that’s a frighteningly dangerous combination indeed.

  56. August 22, 2011 - 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Perry’s supporters seem to be the same demographic of apocalyptic Israel-first Christian crazies that lined up behind George Dubya Bush in summer 1999 and refused to look at anybody else, with the result that nobody else really had a chance. These are the Zionist Jews’ shocktroops in the Republican Party.

    Perry seems to be a loose cannon like Dubya. They have that American “pragmatism” that really means opportunism and lack of principle. I would not take very seriously anything that he says.

  57. bob johnson's Gravatar bob johnson
    August 22, 2011 - 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Perry is a hypocrite and his sex life has been exposed by the Alex Jones Show.

  58. European's Gravatar European
    August 22, 2011 - 3:25 pm | Permalink

    After reading all these posts I wonder why we use the word of “THE ELITE” in identifyng a group of Jews or Politicians. What is so ELITE about them? Does Character not matter, as Weiss in a previous article wrote about? Why do we continue to call them ELITE, and at the same time those who have the Character a notch or more below. With our WORDS we create a world for us and eventually internalize it and set it in motion. So lets stop calling scumbs elite, and honorouble people with character something other or lesser than the ELITE. People will start to act and behave diffently. Maybe we all will vote more “reasonably” too. (as your self-image changes) Give this site and people some self-esteem. I find the word ELITE misplaced here in the discription of people and persons. Who is an ELITE? I did not get that, and I refuse to call Jews or scumbs in Politics ELITES, just because they’ve coned others out of billions$$$$$,…elite in what?

  59. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    August 22, 2011 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

    @Gabor:

    The intention may be to show up the hypocrisy of Jews in having an ethnically orientated state but in practice there is an unintended effect whereby that line only entrenches those who think there is something wrong with ethnostates, all ethnostates . The problem is that criticism of the ethnically based state of Israel is a universalist position taken by the left-liberals who want to flood us with unwhite immigration. People are told that Israel is practicing Apartheid for trying to remain a Jewish state by keeping out Palestinians, the WASPs in the relatively powerful mainstream liberal-left media tell them that. The allegation of hypocrisy against the Jewish pro Israel/open US borders crowd US by nationalists always ends up concentrating on Israel bashing which is all wrong.

    Criticism of Neocons should never concentrate on their support for Israel as such, Jews should not be criticized for supporting a Jewish state in Israel, they should always be subjected to concentrated criticism for destroying the white states in which they live. Supporting a Jewish state in Israel is a secondary issue as there is nothing wrong with that in itself. Rather than nationalists bashing Israel for having an ethnically based state the focus should be on the treacherous behavior of neocons who slyly push immigration.

    It is self defeating to scream about the hypocrisy of the racist apartheid system in the Jewish state of Israel; people who think Israel is an illegitimate state are also dead against the survival of any White state. They’ll listen to the part that re-enforces their aversion to ethnically based states – for Whites as well as Jews – and disregard the rest.

  60. Me's Gravatar Me
    August 22, 2011 - 9:32 am | Permalink

    I would like to offer some suggestions to Increase readership and reader involvement in creative material to contribute to the sight and so to expand the TOO sights offerings and decrease the need for Kevin MacDonalds constant feeding of an expanding content. That is your work load.
    My design Ideas for the TOO Web Sight. [ Easier said than done , so excuse me if you are weighed down by many things. ]

    The TOO sight needs a design strategy. That is a way of increasing readership . I suggest that you might think about your readership as falling into a couple of categories 1 . age and experience 2 . youth and intelligence .These two cat can be split again by 1 . Low brow 2. High brow . To get an effective split of both categories and not alienate readers TOO might create Named Areas , say after hero’s of the West in its long struggle . In this way neither group might feel offended by class acrimony or condescension . The Low browse might like a fighting figure , the Highs a man of letters or philosopher . In this way neither group is likely to be offended or bored by different TOO writer in the extensive cross section you offer . And it might encourage more interesting atmosphere to the site.
    I see Mr Connelly has made critique of a movie but its very long winded and he also feel frustrated that he is just wasting his time on a hopeless cause. Might I suggest that you create a movie data base area with brief movie reviews with an alphabetic tab (perhaps lever the readers knowledge) . This tab on the TOO sight could then have a flashing light for ‘Boycott Alert’ or ‘Propaganda Alert’ to alert readers when a new propaganda movie has been released .This might give the TOO sight a bit of spice–A flashing light , could you dare?

    TOO really needs a cartoon feature to generate ‘site personality’ .There must be someone out there who can cartoon but the question is topic . I might suggest that you could allow those readers with an imagination to suggest funny topic to be cartooned : have a comments area for this , only available to people who post regularly (to stop pests from clogging up the works) . Then the TOO editors can pick a good idea and farm it back as a cartoon request from a readers etc and their you have it , a weekly cartoon created by a reader without much work .It might be the start of a career for some funny guy.

    I wonder Kevin whether because you are an academic chap you might be caught up in the statistical vision of things and so not sure , intuitively as they say , that which might work . By splitting the area into two or three (perhaps a section for the artists) you give the site personality . I can’t stress enough the need for good cartoons to increase readership . Humor will pull people in like nothing else can .Perhaps the cartoon could have a satirical poem or short story from readers to generate a club atmosphere. With the right tweaking the TOO sight might take off which would open many doors for A3P and our mission.
    So-much academic/middle class writing and poetry has a sort of snobby that falls way short of the emergency the West finds it self in . This over controlled middle class style has its place in adding dignity to the discussion and it is pleasant to feel we are amongst men of knowledge and good taste BUT there needs to be a place for the clangors , the brash , the brassy , the in ‘their’ face style .To be blunt , things that will piss the enemy off with our brazen disregard for their treasured measures of whats acceptable. You don’t aspire to be the New Porker of good taste (do you? ) for TOO is the feisty underdog fighting the bully by latching onto their leg.(?) .In for a pinch in for a pound as they say.

    Can TOO and European Americans afford to be overly urbane at this time of the day .Wasp illusions perhaps like Pagan Roman scribblers may have lost the fight already.

  61. chad's Gravatar chad
    August 22, 2011 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    another great article. i only wish the republican party would show as much loyalty to our country as they do to israel.

    the way i see it, if george washington and the rest of the founders wanted america to be permanently tied to israel because of one sentence in the book of genesis, they would have sailed across the ocean and founded israel. they didn’t though, so i’ll trust to their wisdom over john hagee’s.

  62. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    August 22, 2011 - 7:52 am | Permalink

    I’m woefully concerned that Kevin MacDonald almost sounds as if he is touting Rick Perry as someone who can be trusted.

    Rick Perry is like Jorge Bush on steroids. A RINO extraordinaire. Guaranteed to be a neo-con war monger for the criminal, terrorist state of Israel. A rat who once told a group of Mexican politicians that he wanted to erase our Southern border and allow free movement of people between the two nations, which we all know would be a one-way flood of mestizos in to America.

    Rick Perry is a white genocide promoting piece of human scum.

  63. Gabor's Gravatar Gabor
    August 22, 2011 - 3:48 am | Permalink

    @Someday: For Hungary, Israel is irrelevant and a foreign policy issue. However, even in Hungary Israel is a good rallying point in showing the hypocrisy of the Jews (support for ethnonationalist Israel and opposition to ethnonationalism in Hungary), and it’s kinda popular with those voters who don’t have a soft spot for the Jews anyway. It is probable that Hungary’s national interests have been at least somewhat compromised by the Israelis. E.g. in a supposed secret exercise Israeli sigint spy planes came to Budapest Airport, and then, without touching the ground, flew back to Israel. (Coincidentally, a Budapest resident Syrian national businessman was murdered in Budapest the exact same time – may or may not be connected.) An airport traffic controller leaked the information to the press. I think Hungary is infiltrated to the core by the Israelis, just like the US.

    So Israel-friendliness is an issue even in Hungary, because they are a notoriously unreliable ally, and also they rarely use their influence for positive ends. Suppose that the neocons stopped all immigration immediately to the US, and kicked out everybody else. Who can guarantee that they will never restart the whole thing over? I mean, it’s safer not to have much Jewish influence at all. Also, they will compromise national security. They are selling US military secrets to China (and no doubt Hungarian military secrets to Romania, probably even Romanian secrets to Hungary), so having Israel as an “ally” compromises national security heavily.

    However, I think even professor MacDonald had the point that he wouldn’t really mind Jewish activities, even distracting US foreign policies, if it wasn’t about immigration. Because foreign policy is something that could be changed in a second, and even with enormous costs could go on forever, but a change in the ethnic composition of the land means a permanent dispossession of the people.

    I would say even a WNist US (or a nationalist Hungary) could support Israel, but no military aid, no technology transfer, no spy networks allowed to operate inside the country. It could be a diplomatic support, and a recognition of Israel’s right to fend for herself the way she likes it.

  64. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    August 22, 2011 - 3:08 am | Permalink

    @Sector 19:
    Agree totally, furthermore, I would like to add that I have been babtised three or four times (I forget which) in as many churches. but just before drowning I had a vision….Christianity is not the answer, ITS THE PROBLEM! why? Because it is a false god like all the other false gods…Democracy, Diversity, Equality, etc.

  65. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    August 22, 2011 - 2:53 am | Permalink

    @Aprilia:
    You have just described the fatal flaw of so-called “democracy”, the average voter is politically ignorant, so they just vote the way they are told (by the media). If the media seems to favor this one over that one. Issues matter to them that the media defines as an issue. It goes something like this…..”OMG! Islam killed our people. Islam BAAADD!!!” or “OMG!,we need jobs! so lets let a flood of immgrants in to stimulate the economy” or “OMG!, we’re in deep shit, we have to bail out the gazillionair bankers. etc. etc. etc.

    Democracy…government of the lowest common denominator.

  66. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    August 22, 2011 - 2:31 am | Permalink

    @Louis Stouch:

    Agreed. In the cesspool of American politics, he’s the only one I would even REMOTELY consider voting for.
    What people don’t seem to get is the fact that our SYSTEM is flawed, therefore, before we can build a new one, WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE OLD ONE.
    In order to do that we will sooner or later be forced to vote for someone who at least gives the APPEARANCE of not sucking the teat of said system.

  67. Aprilia's Gravatar Aprilia
    August 22, 2011 - 1:42 am | Permalink

    @Louis Stouch:

    The problem is that so many people think Ron Paul has no chance, so they vote for the more media approved candidates like Perry to avoid the dreaded act of “throwing their vote away”.

    People just need to start voting more on principle, as opposed to the cheap thrill of voting for whoever they think will win and thus getting to feel like a big shot, as that’s the only way we’ll ever get anyone of principle like Paul winning.

    If the people can’t even vote of principle, why are they so surprised when the people they elect don’t have any principles and betray them left and right?

    A fickle people will elect a fickle leadership.

    Hopefully Ron Paul will do well enough this year, however, to indicate that steps in the right direction are being taken.

  68. Aprilia's Gravatar Aprilia
    August 22, 2011 - 1:38 am | Permalink

    Perry seems soft on immigration, although there are signs he is moving to more of a patriotic position.

    This passage from the article you link to is somewhat disconcerting:

    Why did the governor push the ban in a state where no official sanctuary cities even exist? Many in Texas, including Perry supporters, thought they knew the answer: He was considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination.

    That feels like the height of empty symbolism.

    Though at least this wasn’t empty symbolism (at least not to the same extent):

    But his more recent moves have leaned to the right. In May, Perry signed a stringent voter ID law that required citizens to show one of five acceptable ID photographs before they may vote.

    So that actually had a practical effect, though it still didn’t have any direct effect on the number illegal immigrants in Texas (a state which has more than its fair share of illegal immigrants).

    Like all the 2012 candidates, Perry is already being pressed for details on how he would handle illegal immigration. Since he entered the race a little over a week ago, Perry has offered voters in New Hampshire and Iowa a stock response: that it’s pointless to talk about immigration reform until the border is secure.

    This kind of talk should probably be avoided as it implies that if the borders were secured, that means the illegal immigrants already here should be allowed to stay and get citizenship.

    There’s no reason why we should reward people for breaking our immigration laws by giving them citizenship.

    It would actually make more sense to give citizenship to the people in foreign countries who at least respected our country’s laws enough to avoid entering it without being legally authorized to do so.

    We shouldn’t do that, of course, but it would still make more sense than rewarding a bunch of law breakers for their law breaking with citizenship.

    Plus if the border was secured and the illegal immigrants then given citizenship, what gives anyone the idea that the borders would stay secure?

    Once the end of securing the border was achieved, the security would likely fall away soon enough.

  69. Sector 19's Gravatar Sector 19
    August 22, 2011 - 12:10 am | Permalink

    @Free Thinker: “in the shaming of the enemy , to make them blush , wipe that smug from their faces , Yes to humiliate them they way they enjoy using HollowWood to taunt the truth seekers”

    I happened upon these last night… very funny and in that vein:

    Letter to Alex Jones on the Establishment

    A Letter to Rys2sense on Racism

  70. Sanjay's Gravatar Sanjay
    August 21, 2011 - 11:49 pm | Permalink
  71. Free Thinker's Gravatar Free Thinker
    August 21, 2011 - 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Kevin , I thought I might repost this , my post , from your P Weiss article as it might be useful and may get lost at the end of the last very interesting list of comments.

    I see many intellectuals in this scroll trying to make the jig saw fit together , constantly shuffling bits of history ,possible psychology even DNA sequences , the brotherhood.. . The WASP acronym is pretty obvious , who invented the Wheel ? some genius .But it is a problem the we WASPS and we want to be wasps don’t have a rejoiner .
    Now if a Wasps is a nasty insect that people feel good about killing , surley their must be some toad , rat or vulture that starts with the letter J ? Men rack your brains , women sharpen your nails . The word bigot should fit in their somewhere . This comes from APPlE incorp , (with minor changes) .BIGGOTED : obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one’s own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions : a bigoted group of Jews.

    What have we got : Jewish Eastern European Problems –JEEPS or JOBS …..

    A part of the propaganda game is to denigrate the enemy and to have our people with the tools necessary to defend themselves .The tools of righteous good humor and in poor taste too .Thus it is good that we consider some thinking along the lines of cruder more vitriolic , cutting quipping, quotable ideas ,words or analogies .
    Stuff that those further up the food chain can use in the battle of words , in the shaming of the enemy , to make them blush , wipe that smug from their faces , Yes to humiliate them they way they enjoy using HollowWood to taunt the truth seekers with their insulting lies and make our ‘leaders’ dance and humiliate themselves as clowns before foolish audience and mouthing the lies that Jester do to satisfy a king.

  72. Louis Stouch's Gravatar Louis Stouch
    August 21, 2011 - 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Perry is irrelevant. Ron Paul is the answer.
    Borders – closed.
    Welfare State gravy train – over.
    Troops – home.
    America – first.
    Israel and multi-culti disaster – forget about it.

  73. Sector 19's Gravatar Sector 19
    August 21, 2011 - 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Perry is just another crony-capitalist who plays for the Zionist anti-populist regime.

    From: AmRen:

    Gov. Perry gave a 2001 speech in Mexico, no less, saying he supports completely open borders, in which he called for the free flow of individuals between these two countries (…)”

    Same 2001 speech in Mexico, Gov. Perry says, “But the idea that you’re going to build a 1,200 mile wall… is idiocy. It absolutely would not work.”

    During the debate over Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration SB 1070, he opposed enacting something similar in his state, saying, “It would not be the right direction for Texas.”

    Gov. Perry supported and signed the Texas “DREAM Act,” which lets children of illegal aliens pay in-state tuition at Texas universities.

    After he signed the Texas DREAM Act, Gov. Perry went to Mexico to brag about it. According to the Washington Times, he said in Spanish: “Educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.” (“Education is the future, and yes we can“).

    Gov. Perry supports granting citizenship to children of illegal aliens, and opposes legislation to change the current policy which grants citizenship to any child of an illegal alien.” According to the Washington Post, he has said any change of our current birthright citizenship policies would be “unconstitutional.”

    Even that [E-Verify] was too much for Gov. Rick Perry, who stated: E-Verify would not make a hill of beans difference when it comes to what’s happening in America today.”

    Giuliani for President in 2008: There were many conservatives running for the 2008 Republican nomination. Gov. Perry could have backed Rep. Duncan Hunter (CA), former Sen. Fred Thompson (TN), or fellow Texan Rep. Ron Paul. Instead, he supported fellow open-borders advocate, former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

    In other words, Gov. Perry is Pro Amnesty and White-Replacement. At a time when a record number of Americans are out of work, Gov. Perry’s job-creation plan is to make it easier for foreigners to take more of our jobs.

    After Rick Perry received a $6,000 donation from pharmaceutical company Merk, he issued an executive order for all 6th grade girls to receive a brand new HPV vaccine.

    In 2009, Mr. Perry received the “Defender of Jerusalem” award, which is given to public figures who show a commitment to defending Israel and Jerusalem as its capital. — [Ah, that explains it...]

    It’s patently obvious what team Perry is batting for. He’s a heavy-weight Zionist ball player who has, NEVER lost an election since entering politics in 1984. (wonder why that is? Hmmm…)

    ‘Populism’ isn’t even in this man’s vocabulary.

  74. Sector 19's Gravatar Sector 19
    August 21, 2011 - 9:36 pm | Permalink

    @Rehmat: Precisely. You would never hear member of the tribe say that they need to be ‘good Jews’ and support Christians. Most of these evangelicals are beyond help I’m afraid.

  75. Whiteawake's Gravatar Whiteawake
    August 21, 2011 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Perry. The Bush stink is worse on him than a battleship full of skunks. Are the same zombies who elected Bushes three times now going to serve up another? If we can’t do better than that we better just stay home.

  76. Steve's Gravatar Steve
    August 21, 2011 - 7:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m concerned about flip-flop Perry and the numerous warnings about him on the net. He seems to be the elite’s answer to Ron Paul. I caught wind that he’s a 2007 Istanbul Bilderberg attendee, which goes in line with his push for the Trans-Texas corridor and pro-immigration policies. And for his recent prayer rally, he’s obviously trying to win brownie points with the red states. And to boot, he wants to do away with Social Security, which is a safe and sound program except that it’s being pilfered by the Jews running this country. Perry has “status-quo” written all over him.
    I don’t see any other choice except Ron Paul.

  77. Anon2's Gravatar Anon2
    August 21, 2011 - 6:20 pm | Permalink

    @Someday:

    It’s not optimal, but the US has commitments which are far more dangerous (ie the 28,500 troops in South Korea are quite likely to end up in a major war ).

    The US “commitment” to Israel has already sucked us into a major war. I think we can call the U.S. War on Islam, which has the United States embroiled in attacks on Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and probably Iran, a pretty significant war. As far as “danger” goes, do you remember 9/11, which was retribution for U.S. meddling in Palestine? Did the “mushroom cloud” alluded to by Condoleeza Rice before the Iraq invasion resonate with Americans because of a fears related to the Korean Peninsula or to the Middle East? Has the U.S. set up radiation meters on roadways into its major cities because it fears the Chinese or is the threat elsewhere?

    Support for Israel is a foreign policy issue which is largely irrelevant to the main concerns of WN.

    Israel a “foreign policy issue” that impacts our national security and sense of safety (see 9/11), our fiscal health (see trillions in war spending and “foreign aid” to Israel), the strength of our military and wellbeing of our soldiers (see waste, exhaustion, and casualties from the War on Islam), our liberty (see Patriot Act, Homeland Security Department, etc.). These are not concerns of WN? These issues, particularly the “terror threat,” have not absolutely dominated American public policy for the past decade?

    I’ll grant you that, strangely, it doesn’t seem to have had an impact on putting an end to mass immigration, although that’s one of the first policies I would have expected to see addressed after 9/11. And one might have expected us to learn something from the U.S.-financed fence they are building.

  78. Rehmat's Gravatar Rehmat
    August 21, 2011 - 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Gov. Rick Perry is a radical Zionist Christian like Glen Beck, Pat Robertson, Rev. John Hagee and former Sen. Rick Santorum who was shreded by Rep. Ron Paul for his Islamophobia and Iranophobia.

    Rick Perry has said that as a ‘good Christian’, it’s his duty to support Israel. Now, correct me if I am wrong – Is not Israel a Jewish-majority entity whose inhibitants are raised on Talmud which curses Christians’ Lord Christ and is mother Holy Mary?

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/08/13/ron-paul-no-war-with-iran-for-israel/

  79. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    August 21, 2011 - 5:52 pm | Permalink

    ‘Perry has the typical Evangelical blinders about Israel-what Berlinerbrau terms his “unqualified support for the current government of Israel.” ‘

    Support for Israel is a foreign policy issue which is largely irrelevant to the main concerns of WN. It’s not optimal, but the US has commitments which are far more dangerous (ie the 28,500 troops in South Korea are quite likely to end up in a major war ). If being pro-Israel enables a conservatively inclined politician to become a viable candidate so much the better.

  80. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    August 21, 2011 - 5:11 pm | Permalink

    As George Bush the Lesser flashbacks are about to shift into full force, strap yourselves in for a re-run of the movie Here Comes Wholesome Christian Man From Texas.
    BTW, did you know that the term ‘compassionate conservative’ (delicious connotations be damned) was coined by one Marvin Olasky. A New England communist-Jew-cum-christian-reconstructionist. Being a prolific writer, Marvin authored multiple (Jew-funded) books devoted to Christianity. He also “happens” to be a passionate defender of the only (kosher) democracy in the MidEast.
    As for Mr.Swagger, he would like to you to forget how during the 1988 presidential cycle he served as Texas campaign chairman of the agent for the Rothschilds, Mr. Global Warming himself Al Gore.

  81. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    August 21, 2011 - 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I picked up on an unusually intense loathing of Perry in elite circles watching TV. The most definitely fear the rise of any candidate, no matter how flawed, that White Gentiles could rally around.

    Of course, Perry is a politician, and he mentioned secession as a way of securing the hard Right during his primary battle with Kay Baily Hutchinson, so he isn’t remotely serious about it. Still, it must frighten elites to hear it mentioned by a major politician in public. Perry was also for the Trans-Texas Corridor that would have further accelerated our “merger” with Mexico. So, I am afraid he is a typical politician ….

    But, he does have good political instincts, and perhaps he picks up on something changing in the water out there. We can only hope this is the start of a new trend with other politicians.

  82. Anon2's Gravatar Anon2
    August 21, 2011 - 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Professor MacDonald writes:

    For Jews, serious Christianity immediately conjures up pogroms, marauding Crusaders, Inquisitions, and blood libel. The Middle Ages as past, present, and future. Historical memory etched in stone.

    Suggested edit: Replace “Historical memory etched in stone” with The Jewish Victimhood Narrative etched in stone. or An key symbol in the Jewish Victimhood Narrative.

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