Pat Buchanan, Suicide of a Superpower (New York: Thomas Dunne, 2011, 496pp.).
Pat Buchanan takes the gloves off in his new book.
During a question and answer session after his Bradley Lecture on “the State of White America,” author Charles Murray called on Sam Kazman, general counsel of the Competitive Enterprise Institute. He prefaced his question with this dictum, “there will always be an America, it just may not be in the United States.”
The sentiment captures the sweeping transformation of American society since the mid-1960s — a society that was largely European (in values, population, culture, and folkways) now is on a demographic trajectory to become a majority-minority cesspool by 2050 with the White population declining to minority status.
An apt description of American society isn’t merely the metaphorical “salad bowl” replacing the “melting pot” — the lettuce is a vanishing ingredient!
The quintessential dilemma that seems to be on the minds of more and more Middle Americans is the question Pat Buchanan poses in the preface of his latest book: “What happened to the country we grew up in?” It is a question weighing heavily on the minds of Midwesterners and other citizens as they see their communities rapidly becoming Third World sinkholes.
The question is one that preoccupies Buchanan in Suicide of a Superpower. It is indisputably his boldest and most passionate assessment of our nation’s fate — an America vanishing before our eyes.
As Buchanan notes, the nation of our forefathers will be unrecognizable to future generations of Americans. It is, as he puts it, a country that lost a nation.
It was never the “diverse” multiethnic, multicultural bastion that educators dogmatically promote in our schools. We had, until the early to mid-60s, a nation that was second to none in education, productivity, living standards, and civility. Many homeowners lived in communities that were so safe they never felt the need to secure their doors or windows with locks. The nation was unified culturally, racially, and socially in a majority populace that had deep ancestral ties to the colonial period.
Not any more!
The U.S. is in decline by numerous indicators: religiously, culturally, politically, and racially. Buchanan puts forth his case in no uncertain terms. It is a book that will generate a storm of criticism from neoconservative and liberal elites. It most certainly will send Chris Matthews into a vein-popping, spitting tirade on-air should he interview his fellow MSNBC colleague.
Buchanan once again dares to go where other “conservative” authors fear to tread. He addresses larger issues that the Right has abandoned for politically correct salaried careers. In fact Buchanan dedicates his eleventh book “To the Old Right.” Most nationally known conservatives will avoid tackling controversial issues that are considered career-ending endeavors: ethnic and racial double-standards that negatively impact Whites as a group, a destructive neoconservative foreign policy, IQ and racial inequalities of cognitive abilities, and the devastating cultural impact of a growing mass of unassimilable immigrants. Buchanan confronts these and related national issues in a sensible matter-of-fact tone.
“Religion, race, culture, and tribe are the four horsemen of the coming apocalypse,” writes Buchanan in explaining the significance of ethnonationalism as a political force.
In a chapter that will give Heidi Beirich and Mark Potok severe heartburn, Buchanan explains why Lothrop Stoddard, the erudite author of The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy and The Revolt Against Civilization, “was something of a prophet. He predicted Japan’s rise to power, its war with the United States, a second European war, the fall of the Western empires, mass immigration of peoples of color to the West, and the rise of Islam as a threat to Western civilization.”
Buchanan describes Madison Grant, author of The Passing of the Great Race, and Stoddard as “Ivy-League-educated” and “respected [scholars] in academic circles” and notes that Grant and Stoddard were active in the eugenics movement. Critics will seize on Buchanan’s non-critical descriptions of Stoddard, Grant, and IQ pioneer Henry Goddard, but the context of Buchanan’s account is vital to correctly understanding his point: he’s critiquing Hua Hsu’s essay in the Atlantic Monthly, an essay that applauds “The End of White America.”
Hsu writes, “As a purely demographic matter, then, the ‘White America’ that Lothrop Stoddard believed in so fervently may cease to exist in 2040, 2050, or 2060, or later still. But where the culture is concerned, it’s already all but finished. Instead of the long-standing model of assimilation toward a common center, the culture is being remade in the image of White America’s multiethnic, multicolored heirs.”
This is precisely what Buchanan finds so alarming.
Buchanan recalls Bill Clinton’s address to the 1998 graduation class of Portland State University where he told them that their children and grandchildren would inhabit a country that “In little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time….”
As Buchanan rightly notes,
This episode is astonishing. Here was a president of the United States telling a largely white student body the day is coming when their own kind will cease to be the majority in a country where the majority rules. Most peoples would sit in stunned silence at such a revelation, or rise in rage at the prospect. The Portland State students cheered the news of the coming minority status to which they and their children have been consigned by their government.
Imagine a Mexican president or Japanese prime minister lecturing to Mexican or Japanese college students and telling them they should welcome their coming minority status in their own nation. Would they greet the news with such enthusiastic zeal?
“Ethnomasochism,” writes Buchanan, “the taking of pleasure in the dispossession of one’s own ethnic group, is a disease of the heart that never afflicted the America of Andrew Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, or Dwight Eisenhower.”
Buchanan punctures a hallowed sacred cow of liberals and conservatives alike: the belief in universal equality. He exposes the futility in the various attempts to equalize intelligence and close the “racial gap” in IQ. In fact, one could argue that the primary role of the government has shifted since the 1960s (providing for the common good and national interest, such as a robust defense and coast-to-coast infrastructure) to a transfer of goods and services to disadvantaged groups. Despite decades of educational reforms, including some $200 billion or more lavished on Head Start and other reform measures, Buchanan cites Charles Murray as noting, “even the best schools under the best conditions cannot overcome the limits of achievement set by the limits on academic ability.”
On the issue of religious decline — the “Crisis of Catholicism” and “the Death of Christian America” — Buchanan also finds that “demography is destiny.” Third World populations are replacing the dwindling percentage of European, North American, and Australian peoples in church pews and Buchanan clearly sees this as a detrimental trend to upholding the customs and long-standing traditions of Protestant and Roman Catholic faiths.
So what are Buchanan’s solutions to reverse what he sees as a prolonged national threat — the multicultural, multiethnic egalitarian utopia that now defines America?
For one, downsizing the federal government. In this he puts forth reasonable but arguably light recommendations: setting a moratorium on federal hiring once federal bureaucrats retire, closing down the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights (why not abolish every affirmative action office and civil rights division throughout the federal bureaucracy?), no bailouts of state governments, halting foreign aid “unrelated to national security,” Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) freezes for Social Security recipients, balancing future budgets, increasing tariffs on imported goods, ending the National Endowment for the Arts, and Corporation for Public Broadcasting. How about closing down the Department of Education and phasing out entire departments in addition to closing down outdated overseas military bases?
Second, in terms of immigration policy Buchanan would impose a moratorium on new immigrants “until employment falls to 6 percent,” give preference to immigrants seeking entry into the U.S. from English-speaking countries or traditionally Western nations (“we need more taxpayers and fewer tax consumers”), complete the border fence, no more amnesties, nudge Congress to amend the Fourteenth Amendment so that it removes the “anchor baby” interpretation, unleash the authorities to take high-profile raids and punish businesses who employ illegal aliens, and establish English as the official language.
Third, in terms of reversing our demographic decline as a European-majority nation (in culture, heritage and peoples) Buchanan believes a renewal of traditional Christian faith and reinvestment in the traditional family, particularly a culture that protects life and promotes the desire to raise children (over material wellbeing) could serve as a catalyst for reversing dysgenic birthrates. The irony is that the primary goal of the eugenics movement was to ensure the prosperity of future generations by encouraging healthy and intelligent families to have more children (e.g., with the establishment of “fitter family” contests) and to make sure inherited diseases are eliminated from future generations. Darwinian natural selection and Christian liturgy should work hand-in-glove complementing one another on mutual goals in this much-needed cultural and ethnic transformation.
Whatever flaws Buchanan may have on selected points, his overall assessment of the symptoms of our national decline and his policy recommendations are dead on the mark. One suspects that the children of the ethnomasochistic Whites who are eagerly cheering their non-majority status will be horrified when they find what the new America actually holds for them.
Of Buchanan’s three areas of policy recommendations, immigration is particularly important, since limited government and a revival of White families will certainly not save White America unless the tsunami of immigration of the last 40 years is reversed. As a result of their declining political power (e.g., as indicated by the impending doom of the Republican Party), Whites will not be in a position to thwart the demands by the new Americans, the great majority of whom have low IQ and very limited educational potential, for high levels of government benefits and services—paid for ultimately by Whites. Nor are Whites likely to win a breeding war with non-Whites even if there was a revival of high-fertility White families.
Moreover, although he has avoided some important issues related to the causes of the phenomena he so accurately describes (e.g., the role of Jews as a wealthy, media-dominant elite hostile to traditional White Americans and their culture), it is particularly encouraging that he has explicitly affirmed race realism in IQ and educability and that he has resurrected important intellectuals from early in the 20th century who have been reviled as the epitome of evil as a result of the triumph of several Jewish intellectual movements in the academic world and in the media. Reestablishing the intellectual zeitgeist of that period would be a hugely important accomplishment. This was the period, after all, when America rejected non-White immigration and opted for the ethnic status quo favoring Europeans by enacting the Immigration Act of 1924.
Unfortunately, the ideology of White suicide is deeply entrenched in all of the critical centers of power in the United States—the media, the academic world, big business, and the political class. Unraveling this daunting infrastructure is a challenging proposition indeed.
The author, a freelance writer, can be reached at cooper.sterling63@gmail.com.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
Hua Hsu’s essay in the Atlantic Monthly, an essay that applauds “The End of White America.”
what more needs to be said? Could anyone even imagine a white with a saxon name going to wherever Hua Hsu (a mere generation ago they would at least try to spell their names in some way that can actually be pronounced in English) came from and cheering the demise of his people? I am sure that Hsu would call me imperialist racist.
The really funny thing though, is all the white who think their obama campaign shirts and buttons will ‘save them’ and put them on the side of the ‘good guys’. They’re going to wake up one day and find out that even their oriental and Asian indian ‘best buddies for life’ are kicking them like dogs. And they will lap it up.
I was born one year after the immigration reform act. what has occurred to western civilization since then has been astounding (Astoundingly bad)
The worse, the better. I’m ready. Are you?
“What happened to the country we grew up in?” – asks Pat Buchanan, a typical American hypocrite. Did he ever bothered to ask an American native Indian what happened to his native people or the tens of thousands of children sexually abused each year in United States – was it their crime to born in a White-majority US?
White supremacists have to stop blaming non-White Americans for electing the first Black Jewish President to Wall Street frauds.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/americas-child-sex-slaves/
Whites will start migrating to white hubs across the country. In reaction, MSM will target and freeze an instance of white on minority violence leading to a new set of “multi-cult” laws criminalizing white communities as “racist.” Forced integration will become de jure as it has already become de facto.
The Oregon State speech was cryptic indeed.
Ah, good old Pat. The same loser who picked a negro as his running mate is politely telling us that we are doomed unless we take his moderate, reasoned adviced.
Yup, because seventy years of conservatism has reaped us tons of success. Stoddard was a more erudite writer and MacDonald a much better thinker. But we need a revolutionary new Mythos for our people to win.
Fist shaking and pining for the 50s is a dead end. Others like Kurtagic and Turner have all said these things better than I can. So go read them. Be future oriented and utopian. Be visionary and joyous despite the rotting world.
Don’t waste your time on those like Pat. Conservatism has failed and goose-stepping has failed. There’s no point in adopting a losing strategy when we CAN win!
“Will America survive until 2025?”
I have my doubts. Our manufacturing base has been exported. These jobs are not coming back. White collar jobs are being outsourced as well. The US is swamped with debt. The question is whether the economy will slowly continue to get worse in the coming decades, or at some point we’ll have a 1929 collapse. In any event, I don’t foresee millions of people of third-world stock lining up in an orderly manner at a soup kitchen.
I also would not be surprised if we had a Rodney King type incident in the next decade or so trigger massive urban rioting.
Whites will start migrating to white hubs across the country
why do you think that somoli refugees are ‘choosing’ (ha ha ha) the whitest, coldest states like Maine and Minnesota to migrate to?
@rehment Did he ever bothered to ask an American native Indian what happened to his native people
if you’re ever read him, yes he has. … so my suggestion, read him before commenting on him.
PS have you ever asked what your people did to the Spanish Christians, Greek/Byzantines? or Christians in the Holy Land?? didn’t think so.
“Will America survive until 2025?”
I have my doubts.
At this point I think the collapse in intentional – it certainly is the case in the EU – or rather they don’t care about the negative side effects, just like the Bolshiviks didn’t care that they destroyed society as long as they were on top.
A negro who was more openly pro-white than 99% of the whites in the US-including the white guys (Traficant and Hoffa Junior) who turned him down before he picked the negro.
PJB is as close to a pro-white radical as you can be and still have regular access to the MSM. The Likudnik lackey Coulter is a very distant second.
@Rehmat:
Rehmat, all you liberal/leftists have to get over this business of ultra sympathy for the aboriginals. The aboriginals were fighting each other for territory and resources long before Europeans arrived, so the name of the game did not change. It’s only recently that a few people would like to quit conquering other peoples, and who are they? Well represented among the Europeans/whites that you want to blame for everything.
To Cooper Sterling:
RE Buchanan’s policy recommendations: did he say anything along the lines of making welfare contingent upon getting sterilized/aborted? I’m betting that he did not (certainly not aborted, since B is Catholic].
Tony
It’s interesting Stoddard was so precient , from what I have read he is one of the less well regarded writers from that era.
Buchanan is very important and impressive thinker, what a pity that someone with his public profile chose to come out with ‘Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War:’ which contained views on WW2 that did terrible damage to his ability to reach average whites. WW2 revisionism continues to be a tar baby for nationalists, like moths to the flame they can’t resist.
Being a minority would not be such a problem if it were not for the WASP ideology, one could point to Brazil as an example of how whites could dominate a future society. I have heard non whites have been citing the example of Brazil to refute the idea that whites of the of the future will lose control of their countries and be in danger .
I see somebody (Jim) delivered with the standard anti-conservative bromides already. Not surprising.
From my white, individualistic viewpoint the influx of low IQ non-whites has its advantages. Less competition.
which contained views on WW2 that did terrible damage to his ability to reach average whites.
His first popular book Republic not an Empire went into that subject as well – it hurt him with the jewish elite and neocons, thats about it.
@Rehmat: If you ever actually bothered to read real history, you would know that there were white civilizations in North America before the “Indians”, who in Canada insist on being called “First Nations”. The mines, the stepped/pyramidal citadels, metal artifacts, and human remains that have been recovered do not point to the Indians, who were primarily hunter gatherers – essentially stone age tribes, as being in here first. Even pre-Columbian Aztec and Mayan artifacts depict whites as being sacrificed. Their own stories speak of whites having brought them their civilization.
@icr: Is what you say about PB’s asking Jim Traficant to be his running mate common knowledge? It’s certainly news to me, but political current events, whether those of a decade ago or now, are by no means my strong suit. I absolutely don’t doubt your word, but is there documentation, even secondhand stuff, supporting this statement?
Someday wrote, “what a pity that someone with [Buchanan's] public profile chose to come out with ‘Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War[,]’ which contained views on WW2 that did terrible damage to his ability to reach average whites.” I am sorry to put the matter so bluntly, but this is utter rubbish. Propaganda anent the rotten and corrupt “good war” is one leg of the stool of Tribal mind control—others being Freudianism, Gouldian Darwinism, the glories of diversity (for all except Jews and Israel), and hatred of the Cross—and as such needs to be exposed and debunked on a nonstop basis with all the energy that partisans of Truth can muster.
@Lew:
Pat Buchanan will get on national TV with his Irish Roman Catholic blow buddy Chris Matthews.
I’m curious if Paddy Buchanan addresses the obvious Roman Catholic political agenda of integrating & assimilating the mestizos, zambos, cholos & indinos of Roman Catholic Central America into the United States. That’s what all of the Roman Catholic politicians are pushing i.e. Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Brown, Dick Durbin, John Boehner, various Daleys’ & numerous Kennedys’, the whole damn bunch. Do they see themselves lording it over their new Roman Catholic voters?
What’s Mr. Pat have to say to this Protestant.
Over the past decade Pat Buchanan has written several very good books, which have even been ‘best sellers’ for several weeks. So, whatever effect his books may have had on those who read them, it is oftentimes not easy to see or to gauge, as the media “silent treatment” can mask these perceptions. I often wondered whether his literary efforts were ever registering with any sentient Whites. His ideas must have influenced some of the ‘implicitly’ White population, to a certain degree, one would think, however. His book STATE OF EMERGENCY was certainly rather explicit in its statements about the racial and political dangers that Anglo America is enmeshed in.
For example, is the “invisible race”, that Fraser mentions in his book THE WASP QUESTION, possibly building a silent, [conscious or unconscious], racially aware White intelligentsia? Let’s hope so, considering the Anglo world’s past blunders. Although some of the more restive among us may lament Buchanan’s form of ‘conservatism’ and his past mistakes, (as do I), nearly every book that he writes spreads awareness, and helps to bring more lost racial souls back into the White Nationalist community.
I always welcome and applaud any new book by Buchanan, as each one is usually better, and more ethnically explicit than the one before it. Considering the average crippled White mindset out there, and how it has impeded us, every book by Buchanan is beneficial. At this stage of our racial/national decline, every word counts, even if it is only a baby step in the right direction for the clueless and curious.
@me:
If you know that “Someday” is a Jew with the task to push us in a pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist direction,you understand why he says what he says.He has literally filled entire pages refuting claims that Jews were behind US participation in WW1 and WW2.Any kind of WW2 revisionism is anathema to him.Reason the more to engage in it!
While I have not read the book, there are some basic problems with Buchanan’s solutions as presented above. First, I suggest that immigration needs to stop, period. Second, all of the non-whites on work visas, wherever they came from, need to be sent home, with no recognition of the anchor babies. The same goes for foreign students. With respect to the porous southern border you are being invaded, and invasions need to be repelled with force. Bring the troops home, station the 250,000 + of them on border patrol watch with orders to shoot to kill. If the feds won’t do it, the state militias can.
The context of the “old” America is not fully explained. While it was considered to be the land of opportunity, there was little or no elitism with respect to work. Unemployment was seen as a problem, not as a method to suppress wages. Any work was seen as meaningful, because as my parent’s generation would say, someone has to sweep the floor. Yes, the pay was not great, but people could more than survive, and no one sneered at what they did. Tradesmen did your home repairs, because they knew what was to be done. Today’s massive gap between the top and bottom of the company wage ladder was unthinkable. Companies were proud that they hired thousands of employees, who were called personnel. They were not the “human resources” of today to be stripped, like an open pit mine, of their usefulness, then discarded. Last but not least, government trade policies actually worked for the average citizen, not just the select few.
Buchanan is right about the problem…wrong about the solution.
Until people realize that the false God of EQUALITY (especially gender equality) is the root from which all the other problems grow, western society will continue to meltdown.
The foundation of traditional western Civilization has always been the nuclear family (mother father and kids, in case you forgot) NOT religion or immigration. it is the death of the INSTITUTION of marriage that caused the decline in religion and the rise in immigration more than the other way around.
Modern machines (starting with the industrial age) slowly destroyed the traditional ROLES of men and women by taking over the labor of both. Artificially forcing the sexes to compete AGAINST eachother rather than WITH eachother.
This artificial equality led to friction and confusion and FEELINGS of inadequacy and of not being appreciated…EQUALS REPEL…
This one catastropic historical event has led inexorably to the situation we find ourselves in 150 years later. Machines are replacing people at a dizzying pace (especially white men)…..and Big Brother is at the controls. the answer is; one, recognize the problem, two, take the controls from Big Brother, three use machines to advance mankind..not destroy him. we must program the machines instead of allowing them to program us.
The current government is a type of machine, the function of which is to make us all equal (and superfluous) we must unplug this machine and reprogram it. Or die.
@Tom: Mere facts probably won’t slow all this unlettered Catholic bashing, but it needs repeating that being a Catholic is neither a genetic fact nor a cultural fidget. It’s a matter of believing, proclaiming, and living the faith handed down, once for all time, by the Twelve, who got it from the pre- and post-Resurrection Christ. By that standard—the only relevant standard—none of the politicians you name is a Catholic. They all sold their souls years, even decades ago. The question that needs asking and answering is, “to whom?”
As many, many people have pointed out, we live in interesting times. One of the microlevel interesting things about them is that—for the first time since the heyday of Arianism—the lame old gag “Is the pope Catholic?” is no longer a follow-up to “Does a wild bear crap in the woods?” as a rhetorical put-down. Since Vatican II, it has been a real and troublingly alive question. For that reason, as well as for several thousand others, behaving and talking as if this were still the 1940s serves no one’s purpose except our oppressors’.
Some of the following numbers are from a couple of years ago which, given the “wonderful” economy, oughta hint @ the current picture:
Student loans (non-dischargeable in a bankruptcy filing thanks to America’s original black president Bill Clinton) nearly $1 trillion
Consumer debt on credit cards over $800 billion.
Consumer debt on home equity loans over $1 trillion (to buy more of the China-made crap they don’t need, let alone can afford)
Consumer debt on mortgages nearly $10 trillion
Over 20% of borrowers are under water
National debt is over $14 trillion, with additional $66 trillion of future unfunded liabilities looming on the horizon.
While over 80% of the manufacturing base has been uprooted and shipped out overseas in order to hire Asian slave labor, white collar positions increasingly go to South Asian and East European bidders (due to American pupils being a collection of dumb shyts as explained by Alan Greenspan).
The taxpayer supported bail-out of banks allowed Uncle Ben Shalom to transfer multiple $$$ trillions to his fellow squids (some of them foreign-based). Though he won’t divulge to whom exactly.
I suspect that the United States will break up sometime early in this scenario. Whites will be drained of their resources in order to support third world immigrants and their decendents. But don’t be depressed, our people (or what remains of our people with backbone) will violently resist and america will be balkanized- blacks to the south, mexers to the southwest as the economy collapses.
And don’t be so quick to blame jews or communists or grand conspiracies for this chaos. Look at the U.S. Congress in 1964- how many jews, blacks, mexers were voting on the new immigration bill? Responsibility for this situation rests squarely on corporate interests, unfettered capitalism, political corruption and greed.
Pat’s solution to the problem is the same old conservative approach of stopping the trend and trying to preserve or salvage something. I really hope it’s not too long before these old conservatives stop making that losing argument. Because eventually we’re going to have to stop listening to them and find a decisive solution to this mess.
@Rehmat: Oh p!ss off. WHITE Americans are “Native Americans”. Land Bridge Asians did NOT found the USA. Stop repeating that Jew LIE. Land Bridge Asians, fyi, were rather LATE arrivals on the American Continent. Try to keep up, Mohammedan.
@Balthasar: No really. Low IQ’ers don’t care about IQ. Haven’t you figured that out yet?
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Yes , WWII revisionism is the key to understanding the enemy TODAY .
I have been reading Mark Twain’s autobiography lately, and the purported novelty of ethnic masochism as claimed in this review made me think of two instances from the bio, both relating to President Grant. Grant had a black butler with apparent deficiencies, of an unspecified nature, probably relatively minor, but enough to raise eyebrows. When asked why he continued to employ the somewhat remiss fellow, Grant said something like “What deficiencies the black race possess are our doing”, meaning that white people must excuse the misbehaviour of blacks, owing to the harm of past and present mistreatment. It’s funny how that (masochistic) thought pattern continues to this day, 130 years later.
In another instance a group of chinese nationals were being educated at preparatory schools and Yale and were being ordered to return to China
because the Chinese leaders were worried western teachings would pollute their culture. Grant took exception to this order,
and sent a letter to the Chinese letter to express his displeasure.
Further Googling found another letter from the Yale President:
The undersigned…exceedingly
regret that these young men have
been withdrawn from the country….
The studies of which they have been
deprived by their removal, would have
been the bright flower and the ripened
fruit of the roots and stems which
have been slowly reared under patient
watering and tillage. We have given to
them the same knowledge and culture
that we give to our own children and
citizens…. In view of…the injury and
loss which have fallen upon the young
men whom we have learned to respect
and love, we would respectfully urge
that the reason for this sudden decision
should be reconsidered.22
Here we see powerful white men who feel and obligation to universally share their knowledge and wisdom to
all the nations of the earth. A quasi secular evangelism. The difference is now we don’t feel the benevolent superiority, only an unworthy cringing obligation.
One final revealing quote:
William Lyon
Phelps, a Yale professor, wrote about his Chinese
classmates at Hartford schools of an earlier day:
“They…were splendid sportsmen, alert in mind,
good at their studies, good at athletics…. [In
dances] their manner to the girls had a deferential
elegance far beyond our possibilities.…The fairest
and most sought-out belles invariably gave the
swains from the Orient the preference.”19
The upper echelons have had aracial, masochistic tendencies for a long time. A very long time.
@Ciaran:
@Rehmat: Oh p!ss off. WHITE Americans are “Native Americans”. Land Bridge Asians did NOT found the USA. Stop repeating that Jew LIE. Land Bridge Asians, fyi, were rather LATE arrivals on the American Continent. Try to keep up, Mohammedan.
Rehmat should be dismissed from this forum for constantly re-posting B.S. He is a one trick pony , err , camel .
Rehmat repeats zionist anti-white nonsense and then goes on to talk about the evil zionist . He can’t seem to grasp his contradiction .
Another obvious contradiction is that it is non-Europeans like Rehmat who are the modern invaders to the west .
Rehmat is not the sharpest knife in the drawer .
Ignore him .
I really do think Pat’s books have had a positive effect and have raised white consciousness for one simple reason: They make sense.
To accept the the social commentary and “insight” offered by the left and the co-opted members of the establishment “right,” require too much compartmentalization and intellectual gyrations to be believable. One must deny too much in one’s own soul to accept them. On the other hand, Pat’s insights have all the clarity and eleagance of truth, like a well-constructed math theorem, before which all the intellectual gobbledy-gook of the bien-pensants falls away.
I don’t see the percentage in busting on Pat or other White folks who mostly agree with you. All it does is turn other Whites way from our cause
I struggle to take Pat seriously ever since he tapped that negress nobody as his V.P.
She was reportedly discovered @ his local Registry Of Motor Vehicles branch while renewing Buchanan’s license.
Pat also never brings up the Federal Reserve which has as much to do with Federal Government as Hanukkah ham sale has to do with Hanukkah .
@John hearns: I usually do ignore Rehrat (spelling intentional this time!). I wonderf if Reh-rat Is a Zionist. One of those JIDF types, posting here to make Whites, Muslims, and Zionists all look like idiots. He’s not very good at his job, if so; he’s prolly some third rate second cousin type. His Uncle Schlomo can’t be persuaded to give him the night janitor’s job, in his brothel – so they set him to work here. writing inane posts.
So Pat Buchannan has produced a dud. If the situation for White Americans is so dire, why isn’t he calling for a complete shutdown of all nonwhite immigration permanently..if he did this..he would really get peoples attention. Even without any immigration at all, the nonwhite population will still explode within the borders of America..and Buchannan calls for only for a temporary time out? Buchannan is not being the least bit serious…he is a fraud(debate me on this point Kevin McDonald).
As far as White American racial interests go, what would be so terrible about shutting all nonwhite immigration down to 0 permanently?..a question that obviously answers itself.
And then their is the race-IQ test score garbage..always 100 percent irrelevant to the race-replacement issue(debate me on this point Kevin Mcdonald)..and strategically a losing debating strategy that always sidetracks away from the fundamental issue of race-replacement.
The moratorium issue concedes our most powerfull economic argument to the race-replacement enthusiast..which is: that a severe and prolonged labor scarcity would be a terrible thing. The moratorium=race-replacement light..not all that light.
Kevin McDonald, watch the MSM debates about Buchannan’s watch the debate about the race-replacement issue become sidetracked away to a duscussion about the eyes-glaze-over-mind-numbing discussion about psychometrics..it is going to happen.
@Someday: The problem even with having a White minority dominate a non-White majority (as in Brazil) is that the society at large still sucks (to be blunt). Being an average middle class White person in 1950s small town American afforded much more freedom and happiness than living as a rich White Brazilian today – with the necessity for bodyguards, gated neighborhoods, bars on the windows and fear in the streets.
As someone posted recently, a wealthy Brazilian visited Australia a few years ago and literally cried because of the freedom to walk down the street in safety, wonderful friendly people, and far superior culture.
There are two important political steps that need to be taken that are not mentioned in this article. One, the tax code has to become child friendly to middle and working class whites. That means larger deductions. This will have no effect on the welfare class which pays no taxes. Two, and this will really upset liberals. Brown v Board of Education should be overturned.
We still have segregation for the better off, but we need it for the lower economic class whites too. The intolerable burden of having to educate privately or move to a town you really cannot afford must be lifted. Children just should not be that needlessly expensive.
Further, integration has hurt both races. Blacks cannot attain white standards and need to proceed at their own pace to find their own level. Much of the unruliness of public schools can be traced not only to the IQ differences between race but also to the different pace of sexual maturation. This has great import on school discipline. Put another way, you train a Collie differently than you train a Yorkie. Education should be about children, not ideology.
The Brown decision was a satanic brew of bad science, Marxist goals and judicial misconduct. No good has come from it. We must get over the silly notion that a clock cannot be turned back. America does it every year about this time.
The catalyst that makes subversion of our country possible is the race traitor, that’s the real enemy. The first thing we have to do to turn things around is police our own ranks and don’t be polite about it.
Brother Pat gets it right as usual. Unfortunately, we are not having as many children as we should have. Pat, himself, has none. We must breed like rabbits if we want to push back against the genocide that is the fate of those organisms that don’t fill a land with their own kind.
@Jim:
Ha ha! Right on, Jim. Yep, Ezola Foster. Who could forget that train wreck? Definitely the ticket, huh?
We’ll take the country back, when we really decide to take the country back. Even the small steps can be huge. Down in Alabama, they’ve purged the mestizos in droves in the past week. Now, for the blacks. Cut off all welfare and they’ll die or move on.
As a high culture we have an instinctive will to live. As a unique body we act as one. True we have allowed babble to distract us and knock us off course. But that is a impediment that can be overcome.
The Jew World Order sets on the head of Christendom like a crown of thorns. All white nations are in a state of chaos. But our life-mission is unchanged. Minds can be tampered with, and the Thought Doctors are thowing the book at us. But the soul of Christendom cannot be touched.
Trying to manage our problems one by one is probably far too immense and time consuming. But all white nations will rise to an idea whose time has come. Christendom will vomit the poison of the Jew World Order out of her mouth. I do not know what course it will take, but the West will conduct the massive expulsion of the Jews world-wide for the first time in history.
Great men have put forth this concept throughout the ages, Martin Luther specifically. Most white nations of Europe expelled the Jews, but it was peicemeal and therefore unsuccessful. Not this time.
Now all the western nations are suffering from the poison.
The Implacable Honesty of Christendom demands the right to exist. We demand a place for honor and nobelness of character on earth. We have been touched by the Finger of Providence and our Mission must not be denied. We have worlds to explore and discoveries to make. In time we will reach the heavens and travel the Universe.
Christendom, all of Christendom, must expell the Jews. At this time in history it is a our life task, our mission, and it is as natural as the rising of the sun.
Whites are not the only people toward whom these different ethnic groups feel hostility. They also feel it toward each other. The neighborhoods of much of Los Angeles (as well as California prisons) illustrate the point. We are in for a wild future!
@Ciaran:
Rehmat is no doubt a nuisance but I don’t think he is a Jewish troll.He most likely is what he says he is: a Canadian Muslim of Pakistani descent.He is full of resentment against the West and not bright enough to understand his own contradictions (such as: condemning the West and praising Islam but still prefering to live in a Western country rather than in a Muslim one,condemning Western aggression and imperialism while Islam has always been aggressive and imperialistic etc. etc.).Repetitive reproaches against the West are alternated with outrageous lies or absurd exaggerations.He seems to do that on other websites as well.I see regularily comments of his on Information Clearing House,a website critical of American foreign policy.One of his latest comments on an article by Paul Craig Roberts called “Is the war on terror a hoax?” for example begins with these words: “War on Terror=is War on Islam.Islam and Muslims have been under Judeo-Christian attacks since the Dawn of Islam”, which is of course a reversal of the truth since it is Islam that has been attacking the Christian world since its very beginning.He is obsessively repetitive and inaccessible to reason,these are typical Muslim characteristics rather than Jewish ones.
@Franklin Ryckaert
I think Ciaran got it right.. I find that Muslim rat hanging out here for so long and with such dedication, day-in and day-out, making outrageous remarks, his mockery of us, including his statements alluding to Whites should really convert to ISLAM, as provoking.. That’s why he’s here – to provoke.. He’s got JEW written all over his posts.. and now I find you suspicious for being his apologist..
If you don;t know what I’m talking about check out this clip for :ILLUMINATION”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8GZdhoCLok
Sadly, it is the end of White Civilization and White People. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.
Stunning end from less than 100 years ago, when Whites were at the top of the world.
In less than 100 years, North America, Europe and Australia have been transformed into the 3rd World.
Judeo Marxists are very powerful like HIV. Western Civilization has been fatally infected with Judeo-Marxist Virus, JMV.
@Franklin Ryckaert
As an apologist for both Jews and Muslims, what’s your agenda here? “Can’t we all just get along” is the strategy you want to promote here? Oh wait, you weren’t really sticking up for a Muslim this time either.. You were basically trying to keep another Crypto Jew’s cover in tact.. So you basically come here to bat for Jews.. I got my eye on you buddy..
I’m seeing a lot of weeds in our garden here..
It was really nice of you to stand up for Ape Sh#$stain too.. How noble you are..
I think in this one line we read big troubles , BLOW BACK : One suspects that the children of the ethnomasochistic Whites who are eagerly cheering their non-majority status will be horrified when they find what the new America actually holds for them.
Check out Rehmat on youtube..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jbRgf6wX0A&feature=related
More rehmat videos on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAmmcUF-2LY&NR=1
@Sanjay
You wrote:
Judeo Marxists are very powerful like HIV. Western Civilization has been fatally infected with Judeo-Marxist Virus, JMV.
HIV is a Jewish invented scam.. Do some research. People don’t die from HIV/AIDS.. There are many videos that explain the details of this diabolical fraud on the net (youtube).. But basically, they die from the AIDS administered drugs prescribed to them after they’ve been told that they are HIV positive…
With regard to your analogy, I only wish it to be true.. Once exposed, it would be all over for these satanist deceivers..
HIV/AIDS hoax was also used as a pretext to bring homosexuality into main stream. If you also do research into the radical gay movement across the world, especially in America, you will discover all the leaders and promoters, at the very top are almost ALL Jews. This fraud (weapon) was used to weaken white families. Guess what? It worked!!
As I have mentioned on several occasions in the past, our side needs to get wise to the tactics employed by our enemies against us.. If we don’t, we are like sitting ducks.. unable to recognize the deceptions that are meant to destroy us.. 9-11 is another big deception.. yet still so many refuse to touch that topic!! It’s causing lots of damage to our people and our cause..
@Facio Libre: Why would the big pharmaceutical companies and the medical establishment and Jewish elites wish to kill off a primarily homosexual population? Or in the case of Africa, a black population? That doesn’t make any sense.
@Facio Libre: OK you are doing some kind of satire or you are just being disruptive. Gay issues were already being pushed into the mainstream back in the 1970s (and long before). When AIDs hit it created a stigma surrounding homosexuality – it did not help and some of the people who have died were Jewish. Why are you promoting one cockamamey theory after the other and then getting into name-calling battles with half the posters here?
@Someday:
Someday wrote on October 1, 2011 at 1:07 pm
“Being a minority would not be such a problem if it were not for the WASP ideology, one could point to Brazil as an example of how whites could dominate a future society. I have heard non whites have been citing the example of Brazil to refute the idea that whites of the of the future will lose control of their countries and be in danger.”
Of course, we don’t know what Brazil will look like in 100, 200, 500, or 1,000 years.
Always trying your best the get Whites to settle for less than their own all-White homelands and a White world, aren’t you, Jewboy!
the idea of jews/marxism/ireligiousness being responsible for reproductive collapse does not explain japan/turkey/iran…
for all the worried white racists, the above countries are surpassing europe’s graying trends.
personally i think is heideggers curse, catching up with any society that surpasses certain post-modernists tresholds.
@Facio Libre:
I have never been an “apologist” for Muslims.I have on many occasions not only critisized Rehmat but also Islam and I have said that Muslims are not our natural allies.The only thing I said is that I think that Rehmat is really a Muslim.Well,that is only my impression.Maybe I am wrong and you are right that he is a kind of Adam Gadahn (I have just seen those videos).But what is the “danger” here?His comments are so ridiculous that they are rejected by all of us.They certainly don’t influence us.He is only a nuisance.
As for me being an “apologist for Jews”,I was the first to expose “Caleb” as a Jew and I have attacked him ever since (he is gone now).I have done the same with “Someday” and his sockpuppet “Overagainst” and have always been very critical of Jews and Judaism.As for Mr.Goldstein,I was the first to raise suspicions that he might be a troll.Now I am not so sure anymore.But again what is the “danger” here?We are all pretty Jew-wise here and cannot be pushed in a Jew-friendly direction,should he try.
Vigilance is a good quality but it should not degenerate into outright paranoia.
AVOIDING IMPORTANT ISSUES RELATED TO THE CAUSES is unfortunately very discouraging and discredits the whole exercise.
I salute all those fearless WWII revisionists, who dare to question the holiest of holies. If it weren’t for the Arthur Butz’s and the CODOH’s out there doing that thankless work, the scales may never have dropped from my eyes, and I certainly wouldn’t have found my way to this virtual community.
@Pierre de Craon:
This stuff is easy to find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezola_B._Foster#Election_of_2000
Her background:
@Jarvis Dingle-Daden:
Pat is a resident of Virginia. Ezola is a CA resident. So much for the DMV “story”.
@ icr
You sarcasm radar warrants a re-tweaking.
@Jason Speaks
You’re either an idiot Squeaks, or a misinfo agent along the lines of Rehmat.. It seems like you got a little wolf-pack out here at TOO for company to provide mutual support.. If you go back and reread my posts you will get the answers to your questions..
But I’ll spell it out for others once again in greater detail..
When the HIV/AIDS epidemic fraud came into focus, it was the time when homosexuals where being brought to high schools across America and given a platform to speak about the dangers of unprotected sex and drug use.. This was the first time (main stream America) teenagers were exposed to Homosexuality.. These topics became discussed by mainstream parents and their mainstream kids at the kitchen table across the country.. HIV/AIDS was not designed to KILL homosexuals, but it to destroy the WHITE family..
This brought Gay life style into the open. It also generated much sympathy for the gay community.. not at the beginning of course, but look where we are with attitudes to Homesexuality today? Homosexuality is one of the main causes that is destroying the WHITE family.. We are in the middle of a FULL SCALE FREAK SHOW! When the population is surrounded by freaks, no one is paying attention to the Jews.. It enables Jews to rob us blind WHOLESALE! Destroy our country.. Who’s going to pay attention to Ben Shalom Barnankee when your teenage daughter is bringing two black guys for a threesome and your son is dating other guys???
Jews Control both pharmaceutical companies and gays.. Both are the means to their ends.. Another more recent health scare scams include the Bird Flu Virus and Swine Flu Virus.. Be afraid.. be afraid is the name of the game.. 9-11 is just one more thing that was engineered to destroy us (not by Muslims, but by Jews)..
These are the type of things that will make people want BIG government to remain in place.. as such problems are perceived to be overwhelming for the individual to handle by the electorate.. The same BIG government good ol Pat wants to abolish.. Good luck PAT! I do sympathize with pats goals, however…
Why do you think this is in the news???
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/01/world/europe/serbia-gay-pride/index.html
Why does America care if a foreign country that is thousands of miles away from it’s shores allow a Gay Pride Parade to take place or not??
@Facio Libre: I don’t think your scenario is plausible. There is no doubt that the gay movement is pushed in order to undermine White Civilization, but I don’t see that HIV is a fake disease that was created by anyone in order to promote gay culture (in fact, most would think quite the opposite).
It doesn’t make any sense that pharmaceutical companies (supposedly under Jewish control) would kill of gay people, if they were using gays as a vanguard to destroy White civilization (which they are in many ways). I have never heard that pharmaceutical companies were run by Jews by the way, but I can’t argue the point.
I don’t control any wolf packs, but that would be really cool, I’ll look into it. I can’t figure out if you are just pushing every crackpot theory for the fun of it, or if you actually believe it. But it’s entertaining and keeps you off the street. Enjoy
By the way, on this issue of gay culture, while its profile has been raised exponentially in recent years, and it is surely used to attack White Christian culture, I don’t think there is any evidence that homosexuality itself is more prevalent.
When we say gay issues are used to attack traditional culture, it isn’t in the sense of “turning people gay”. It’s not that your son is going to walk away from women – the chances of that happening to your heterosexual son are almost zero. No, the attack is by undermining the uniqueness and sacredness of the traditional marriage. In effect, things like gay marriage attempt to dethrone traditional marriage and culture. It is also a psychological attack that destroys a normal male role model.
That’s the attack, not literally turning people into homosexuals (gays may secretly dream of that but mother nature has insured that about 98% of males are preferentially heterosexual in a big way). Sexual orientation is almost all genetic/biological (maybe 100%?), especially for males.
And the same thing is most likely true when it comes to White girl dating and/or marrying black guys. All the evidence I see is that it ain’t happening any more than it ever did. Media images are not reality. Some White women do fall for Mestizos, but black guys are not really prized as husbands in this world.
Re: AIDS – whatever may be the truth about it, the mortality statistics from Africa are totally bankrupt. A comprehensive HIV test costs a substantial amount of money, money that is not available to test all supposed sufferers in the Third World. Categorizing some unknown cause of death as AIDS-related rather than “unknown” generates a different foreign aid outcome for recipient countries. This podcast is an eye-opener:
http://goo.gl/1ksmA
Abolishing state foreign aid is a no-brainer.
Here’s House of Numbers, the subject of which is the manipulation of AIDS. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ
@me:
YES – I have and respnse I received from one of top Jewish American scholar Dr. Bernard Lewis was: “Muslims in Spain created Golden Age for Jews”.
Is that satisfy your curious Zionazi mind or should I quote half a dozen rabbis?
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/yes-islam-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-reformation/
I would say that their is no reliable info about aids and how it is being used by the powers that be .
Also , that the official 911 is laughable as depicted by the establishment .
And , ” climate change” is very much up for skepticism if not laughter .
And , WWII was not the same war that is depicted in jewllywood .
“Crack pot theories” are quite possibly much more accurate than conventional ” history ” .
There are many theories and that is no wonder when we KNOW we live in an age of lies . We also know who are the kings of the lies .
I question the motives of anyone who writes of inquiry of major events as being ” tin hatter ”
IMO , WWII never ended , whites are still at war with that same global power TODAY . Another ” crap pot theory”
Until we manage to bring in an age of truth then no person should smugly talk of ” crack pot theories ” to those who look for alternatives to the status quo theory that simply does not add up .
@Jason Speaks:
Maybe America was paradise in the 50’s, but Brazil wasn’t that bad. Crime rates were low and the cost of living very affordable although incomes and access to culture were much lower than in the US. The problem with Brazilian crime began with huge migration from rural to urban areas following industrialization and compounded with the preaching of false compassion by the left (“human rights”) towards criminals following the demise of military rule. Many laws were enacted further hindering the efforts of police and the Judiciary to cope with the problem. Today Brazilian demographics show the same trend as in the US and Europe. The white minority has a replacement ratio below equilibrium the inverse occurring with the rest. And increasing immigration from our Spanish speaking neighbors and Portuguese speaking Africa is a new reality with São Paulo harboring some 600 K of them. As to the quality of life, yes, we miss the times were fences didn’t exist and one could walk calmly by the streets at whatever hour but as London has showed recently big cities in the First World aren’t what they used to be.
@amir:
Iran’s TFR is 1.8 children/woman, Turkey 2 children/woman, Japan is also rising from 1.26 to 1.4 children/woman. Much higher than Europe (1.45 children) and Canada (1.5 children), and higher than US (1.7 children/white woman)
Also, Judeo Marxist MI-Complex is occupying Japan and Turkey just like Germany) and surrounding Iran from south, east and west.
Of course Judeo-marxists are inside Europe and America and paralyzing these societies with cultural marxism.
@Sanjay:
Yup. Cf James Bowery’s theory of Jewish virulence:
1. Hyper centralization of net assets (communist, capitalist, monarchy—doesn’t matter)
2. Social breakdown as middle class (Yeomen) are unable to afford subsistence
3. Grab and convert wealth in easily transported forms (gold historically, diamonds more recently, etc.)
4. “Virulent antisemitism” breaks out
5. Emigrate leaving behind less “savvy” Jews to take the heat
6. Cry out for help to elites at destination nation while offering concentrated wealth to enter new cycle (see step 1).
@rhemet “Muslims in Spain created Golden Age for Jews”</i.
but hell for Spaniards. I read your full of s*it blog post.. 'tolerance' for Christians included a blood tax, sexual enslavement of christian women … and of host of other maladies. but mainly and most of all , they (muslims) were there. That was enough. Isabel and Ferdinand (God rest their souls) had no problem rallying Christians to drive the infidels out of Spain.
In fact, from the day the Moors conquered the Visogoths, the Christians started fighting back. And the fought for over 700 years. Now thanks to to traitors in the EU, Muslims are flooding back into Spain.
Christians were treated like crap. Jews were not, they collaborated with the moors. Both were expelled for a. invading in the first place. b. collaboration and in the case of Jews, blasphemy (the anti-Christian writings in the Talmud) so how am i a 'zionazi' again??
I’ll attempt to summaries the most common theories floating out there:
1. Jews did it
2. Pentagon lab did it
3. White supremacists did it (see Pentagon) in order to strike Afros and sodomites by taking advantage of the target groups’ inherent promiscuity
4. Agents of big Pharma did it in order to turn treatment into trillion dollar bonanza
5. Jews did
Massive celebrations of diversity in Bulgaria following the death of a 19 year old local kid run over by a bus on the orders of a Gypsy baron. Right wing activists took advantage of the explosive situation to call for the expulsion of Turks as well.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/10/01/58023383.html
and @rhemet you’re also avoiding the point – you are always bringing up our alleged treatment of red indians and avoiding the fact that Islam /Muslijms conquered Christian lands by force, – like Spain, which, thankfully, we took back.
@Anon: Very interesting. I’m not trying to pick on Brazil, I’m just pointing out that in general, it is better to have a majority White country. Majority brown countries are never been as nice even when they are ruled by Whites.
BTW, Bernard ‘Rent a Historian’ Lewis is zio-cons’ favorite go-to guy.
That oughta give you all the info you could possibly need.
@John hearns:
I question the motives of anyone who writes of inquiry of major events as being ” tin hatter ”
I question the motives of anyone that seeks to equate serious alternative theories with whatever urban legend someone happens to pull out of their hat. There are serious challenges to global warming. There is a ton of high quality work documenting Jewish influence.
But the theory put forward about AIDs here isn’t backed by anything and it is internally inconsistent. Why would someone want to put all intelligent non-Establishment theories in the same box as any ol’ idea someone dredges up?
The people who do this either don’t know any better (and never will) or they are trying to ruin the brand name of any real dissent regarding Jewish influence by equating it with caricatures of bad ideas.
@icr: Thank you. I probably wouldn’t have looked at the Pretend Encyclopedia since, as a rule, I studiously avoid it except when seeking information as anodyne (and as unlikely to be distorted by Tribal malice) as the current population of Sheboygan.
@Jason Speaks: Please do continue to pick on Brazil! It has been hawked as the multicultural paradise par excellence by the Establishment media for fully thirty years. What it is, however, is the Gehenna that the USA could easily be in a decade or two, when my grandnieces and -nephews will have children that they struggle to bring to adulthood unindoctrinated, unmolested, unmurdered.
Pat Buchanan has interesting ideas about WWII and I don’t they are all that “revisionist” actually, just a different perspective. He simply claims that both WWI and WWII were tragic civil wars of the West. He also takes Churchill of his pedestal without going too far to my mind.
As far as the Jewish role in WWII, I think it is undeniable that the organized Jewish community agitated for war against Germany. From Charlie Chaplin movies to articles in Life magazine about the “Nazi menace”, the foundation for opposition to Germany was laid. This doesn’t mean that Jews were solely responsible for the war (obviously Pearl Harbor had something to do with it!), but it does mean Jewish activism was one of the causes. It’s also why this was one of the few periods when Hollywood made patriotic war movies – because it jived with their anti-Hitler agenda and sensibilities.
However, there were also other reasons – Britain and Germany were competitive with each other over resources and control, for example. Britain had an empire to defend and Germany had felt slighted in the past and it was suddenly bristling with new power. And as mentioned by Frank Salter, while National Socialism appears to have brought some good things to Germany, the inability of the people to replace the leadership through some lawful process certainly allowed a more aggressive foreign policy than was actually in Germany’s self-interest. One of the bad things about dictatorship.
@Jason Speaks
@Trenchant: The beginning of true wisdom about AIDS is to be found in the writings of Dr. Peter Duesberg, now fully twenty years old but nowhere near surpassed or even equaled. He writes like what he is: a brilliant and dogged researcher and a man who bends the knee to nothing save the truth. The parallels between him and KM are striking, not the least of them being that both seem to have extraordinarily thick skin!
I occasionally feel foolish recommending books to the denizens of this site, but since you two gents are members of the subset that doesn’t yet regard the printed page as, like uhhhh, like, too totally quaint for words, I’ll risk doing so.
@Pierre de Craon: Very good point, we really do need to point out how bad things are in Brazil, precisely because it has been upheld as the ideal. I can’t tell you how many White guys I have had to correct on this issue: They will start talking about how “awesome” all the “hot” girls are at Carnival and what a great party place Rio must be. After a few minutes of discussing how safe they would feel walking around alone, or what living conditions are like in San Paulo, they seem to start thinking with their rational brain and having second thoughts. It takes a few minutes to cut through the titillating images placed in their heads by the Travel Channel.
@Franklin Ryckaert: Re Facio Libre: Perhaps (s)he is a “troll”. One of the traits of Jews is to get in the middle of harmonious groups that are a perceived “threat”, and create discord within the group by encouraging individuals to attack each other. These attacks go beyond disagreement with a point of view, they are encouraged to be personal. Other posters exhibit this trait as well.
As for Rehmat, I have dealt with the likes of him for years. I understand people see life through their own filters, but his type invents reality. I can’t tell you how many “New Canadians” have tried to give me a history lesson on events that I or older family members attended personally. As you correctly point out, Rehmat and his ilk spout the chosen ones company line without recognizing the contradictions.
@Curmudgeon: says:
Rehmat and his ilk spout the chosen ones company line without recognizing the contradictions.
This is true and it is amazing to hear non-Jewish activists spout ideas of a Jewish origin, even though the spouter things he is an “anti-Zionist”! We should also remember, there is a strain of thinking along similar lines that doesn’t require any Jewish influence, as documented by MacDonald in his article on the “INDIGENOUS CULTURE OF CRITIQUE.” Good reading if you haven’t read — here is the link:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Gura-Transcendentalism.pdf
I remember hearing an Irish Catholic spinster at work (she was 45, unmarried and childless – is that considered a spinster?), get all emotional watching black Haitians cross illegally into the US. She literally stood up and clapped. For whatever reasons, there are people of every color and stripe that embrace this suicidal tripe even without Jewish activists putting the ideas in their head. Of course, it’s the Jewish activists who provide the jet fuel to make what would otherwise be shunned silliness, actually become policy.
In the case of the spinster, I think it was a misplaced desire to care for something. She had no kids, no man (and given her personality, would never), yet she had something of a mothering instinct that was unsatisfied in her. She could feel like a good hearted person by caring for these people and protecting what were, in effect, her “downtrodden black babies”.
She also knew these black Haitians who had no money, education or intelligence, would welcome her, at least temporarily, as a savior. I often think White liberals are driven by a desire to find some pathetic group that will look up to them in a worshipful manner, almost like a religious figure. In other words, they have something of a mangled Christ-complex. You and I aren’t going to regard them as great people that save us from ruin, so they seek out low IQ Mestizos and Blacks who they think (mistakenly) will put them on a pedestal.
SUICIDE OF A SMALL POWER
Interesting weekend in New Zealand. On Saturday I was helping erect signs for NZ First political campaign. There was barely enough folk there to get the work done. In parts of the country these signs are not even going to be erected due to lack of man power. This is NZ’s only nationalist party that has anything to say at all on where our immigrants should be coming from. They were a great party with about 12% of the vote, but suffered from media hate allegations and a fool drunkard leader and have gone down the toilet. We now have immigrants from everywhere everywhere. We never had Negros before about 10 years ago, now they are beginning to swarm over our cities. On Sunday I went to a heritage day. There were some nice old white christian looking folk with a whole bunch of negro kids. Women at the H day, with no connection to these people would go ga ga over the little blacks and ohh and ahh, but the white kids didnt get the same over the top warm fuzzy reaction. This is typical of the negro encounters in NZ. Whitey looking after them and taking them out and showing them stuff, no dad to be seen, over the top affection from sickly white libs. There is something wrong with many of our folk. There is enough work here to keep Anders going every day of the week.
The same crap in the UK as the US as NZ as Aussie.
@Curmudgeon:
Thank you for the reaction.No,I don’t think Facio Libre is himself a troll or a Jew,he more sounds like someone who has become oversuspicious due to the real phenomenon of the Jewish troll.Now he thinks anyone who doesn’t have his degree of suspicion must be “part of the plot”,which borders on paranoia. He thinks Rehmat is a Jew like Adam Gadahn who impersonates a Muslim member of al-Qaida.Although that is a possibility ,my impression is that Rehmat is a real Muslim immigrant with conflicting attitudes.Part of his problem is probably an inferiority complex evoked by the confrontation with an advanced civilization as compared to the country of origin.This then is compensated by accusing the West of fundamental immorality and praising the own country,culture and religion to the skies,unaware of the contradiction : if the West is so bad,and the own country so good,why staying in the West?For him this complex has become an obsession.He is more of a nuisance than a danger.
@ Curmudgeon
If I had a shekel for every hasbarristi who come on resources such as this, I could buy myself a decent-sized exotic island somewhere in the South-East Pacific.
The death grip on means of disseminating information enjoyed for decades by Judaic media barons is increasingly turning into a non-factor.
Just very recently the Sulzbergers presented Boston Globe union with an ultimatum: concede to draconian cuts or face newspaper closure ! We’re talking the largest newspaper operating in the #10 American market.
Talmudvision viewership is in free fall. CNN and MSNBC are forced to shuffle around more ‘talent’ and content than an avant-garde theater director on acid.
You don’t reckon members of Team Yitzhak are going to be content with that new reality ?
@John hearns:
Now that I will call a joke from some coward Jew pretending to be Whiteman.
I tell other readers to ignore Rehmat – but himself not only read Rehmat’s posts but had the nerves to respond to them via Zionazi whining. Ha, ha, ha…
@Jason Speaks
But the theory put forward about AIDs here isn’t backed by anything and it is internally inconsistent.
I don’t think you watched this clip in it’s entirety..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-ttLfkZHQ
Why don’t you go to 1:24:16 of this clip and listen carefully to what the man (Luc Montaginer, 2008 Noble Laurette for discovery of HIV) says.. Once you do that, you can then promptly kiss my ass and then you apologize for being a puke!!
Here’s one depicting Jewish scam with regards to the swine flu virus.. YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8196807.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0gvbw1S4Ks
No these things are not urban legends.. they are actually in the Jew owned press like BBC for all to see, for example..
Squeak, I really don’t have the energy to play intellectual ping pong with you regarding these things.. If you have internet connection, and I gather that you do, otherwise you wouldn’t be here, you can do your own research.. You shouldn’t have any problems finding BACK up to any of the things I mentioned..
I’m not here for HUGS.. I’m here to battle for our side.. and anyone who’s here giving cred or comfort to the enemy is a fool.. and a traitor.. As someone already said it before.. it’s high time we start policing our own ranks!
It’s not the non-White, but the White traitors working for the Jews who are driving America to commit suicide. Take for example, Rep. Michele Bachmann who tends to agree with several of Pat. Buchanan’s prescriptions …..
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/bachmann-hizbullah-has-missile-sites-in-cuba/
@Rehmat:
Rehmat , you are getting nuttier by the post . But , don’t let that slow you down , it never did .
Have you considered repatriation ?
Please do .
@Jason Speaks:
Thanks for your reply. Picking up Brazil is not a problem, I’m not offended cause I know very well where I live. The point I wanted to stress is that Brazil and particularly Rio WAS a very pleasant place BEFORE the left (or liberals as you call them – a bunch of white Brazilians by the way) came to prominence and power with its ideology of human rights, vitimization, guilt complex, etc and now even affimative action. As for Brazil as a model for the US in the future, forget it: the Brazilian experiment is difficult to replicate in its huge mixing of races which built an effective buffer between the white minority and the black majority and reduced the tensions therein. People may not like it but it functions in a way. I don’t see this can happen in the US. Then, probably, the process of white anglo saxons losing their majority status will be much more troublesome in the US than the Brazilian model.
@Squeaks..
Here’s more backup for you..
http://www.cherada.com/articulos/aids-is-a-scam-more-than-10000-scientist-even-top-ones-like-duesberg-and-strohman-admit-it
Now put your thinking skull cap on Squeaks and tell me who owns the mainstream media that spread this lie all over the world???
It’s not the non-White, but the White traitors working for the Jews who are driving America to commit suicide.
NO ,
It’s the jews and their white traitor puppets who have brought non-whites in to flood the country in order to murder America and replace it with a multi-cult sh*t hole that is easily ruled .
You are but one of the non-whites > same scenario > different country .
How does it feel knowing your place in things ?
@Jason Speaks:
Jason Speaks , you are not the gate keeper of what is the truth .
Fact is often stranger than fiction .
More humility would do you well .
@Facio Libre: That isn’t what I am saying. I don’t doubt that HIV/AIDs is misunderstood or used for political propaganda. There was a book called The Myth of Heterosexual Aids about 15 or 20 years ago. The author makes the point that it is very difficult for HIV to be transmitted via normal heterosexual activity.
I am also sure that people with good immune systems, even if gay, can fight it off. But, gay men often have a lifestyle of drinking and drugging, along with massive exposure to tons of body fluids from all over the world, so that takes a toll on their immune systems. And I am sure it is possible that some of the drugs given to fight AIDs makes it worse – it wouldn’t be the first time that has happened in medical history.
But you made the claim that Jews deliberately created a false illness of HIV/AIDs, that is was a Jewish scam from the beginning, in league with Jews who supposedly control pharmaceutical companies, for the express purpose of promoting a gay agenda and making money, that was premeditated beforehand. This is the part I don’t see any support for and I don’t see the video making that claim.
The videos of the Jews on the plane warding off swine flu is funny, but how in the world does that prove that swine flu is a Jewish scam? I don’t get your logical leap. You act as if that was proof of something. Non sequitar.
So, I am not defending the current thinking on AIDs. Most people have almost nothing to fear from AIDs. But I don’t see support that it is a Jewish scam or that it doesn’t really exist as an illness which you seemed to imply when you called it a Jewish hoax. But I take it you agree it exists and can actually do harm to a person with an impaired immune system, since the scientist in the video states that.
Nor, just to be exhaustively clear, am I stating that activist Jews have not acted in premeditated manners to cause harm or exercise hidden influence in other areas, I just don’t see any evidence in this case, and there seems to be lots of evidence that gay activism and politically correct science, as well as run-of-the-mill corruption have been the main culprits.
The anus is not meant to be filled with sperm . Sperm burrows in to the wall of the anus . Vaginas have a lining made to with stand burrowing sperm . Anuses are not . This is probably a big factor with gays and getting ” aids ”
But who really knows what aids is ? It is very reasonable to question if there is some big time jewing going on with “aids”
MO, there is .
@Jason Speaks:
So you’re saying that Jews having nothing to do with pushing homosexuality onto whites?? That they did not bring them into our high schools and colleges? Ever watched M-TV real world San Francisco?? Gay Cuban Pedro dieing of AIDS and how everyone was to feel sorry for him?? Are you telling me that is not a Jewish programming??
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Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire.
-The West
Larry Kramer — co-founder of “Act Up,” a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men’s Health Crisis
Alan Klein — co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM
Arnie Kantrowitz — co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].
Jonathan D. Katz — founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].
Harvey Fierstein — film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist.
Moisés Kaufman — playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].
Israel Fishman — founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world’s first gay professional organization.
Bella Abzug and Edward Koch — both Jewish — the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].
Winnie Stachelberg — political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]
Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.
Tony Kushner — gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].
Len Hirsch — president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE.
Meg Moritz, Ph.D. — a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD.
Barbara Raab — an NBC-TV producer; a “Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer.”
Charles Kaiser [?] — author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].
David Goodstein — owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.
Judy Wieder — Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.
Alison Bechdel [?] — cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip “Dykes to Watch Out For.”
Kevin Koffler — Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.
Garrett Glaser — National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member.
Ronald Gold — reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association’s policy that homosexuality is an illness.
Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term “transvestism”; fled Nazi Germany.
Fred Hochberg — deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].
Michael Berman — member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell Gold — HRC Board Marty Lieberman — HRC Board Andy Linsky — HRC Board Dana Perlman — HRC Board Abby Rubenfeld — HRC Board Andrew Tobias — HRC Board Lara Schwartz — Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman — HRC Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky — HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green — HRC Associate Field Director
Rick Rosendall [?] — President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC.
Barney Frank — member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies
Kerry Lobel — executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.
Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women’s Cultural Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].
Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund — and — the executive director of Freedom to Marry.
Jennifer Einhorn — Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] — Treasurer, GLAAD Judy Gluckstern — Board of Directors, GLAAD. Stephen M. Jacoby — Board of Directors, GLAAD. Matt Riklin — Board, GLAAD Carol Rosenfeld — Board, GLAAD. William Weinberger — Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler — Board, GLAAD. David Huebner — GLAAD Counsel.
Richard Goldstein — Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics
Ron Schlittler — Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].
Craig Ziskin — Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.
Debra Weill — Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.
Dody Goldstein — Board of Directors, PFLAG.
David Horowitz — Board of Directors, PFLAG.
Shawn Frank — Board of Directors, PFLAG.
Leon Weinstein — Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.
Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.
Gayle Rubin — lesbian author/activist.
Hilary Rosen — a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.
Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.
Bob Kunst — long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.
“Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network” [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty Seldman, president
“National Gay & Lesbian Task Force” [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: ….. Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer — Director of Training [political training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman — Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth Zemsky — Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer — Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi — first, Levi was NGTF’s lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.
Bill Rubenstein, J.D. ’86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project
Martin Duberman — author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.
Ben Schatz ’81, J.D. ’85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Foundation.
Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk Institute in San Francisco, the world’s largest center for queer studies.
Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights organization].
Susan Spielman — principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.
Gertrude Stein — wrote the first openly lesbian novel, “Q.E.D.,” in 1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.
Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.
Michael Goff — founded Out magazine in 1992.
Paulette Goodman — founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.
Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network; president and CEO of out.com.
Jim Levin — New York gay historian.
Barrett Brick — GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.
Robin Tyler — American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national protest coordinator for the “Stop Dr. Laura” campaign; she produces women’s comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company.
Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].
Mark Elderkin [?] — co-founded Gay.com.
Leroy Aarons — American professor, journalist, and founder of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).
Dr. Donald I. Abrams — American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.
Johnny Abush (1952-2000) — [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish GBLT Archives.
Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official; appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.
Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.
Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].
Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day [October 11th].
Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP].
Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].
Surina Kahn — American lesbian activist.
Larry Kessler — founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.
Kathy Levinson — American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.
Judith Light — actress, activist for gay causes.
David Mixner — gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill Clinton’s Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.
Dan Savage — American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].
Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.
Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].
Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] — founder and coordinator of the Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.
David Sine [?] — American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable TV network.
Rex Wockner — longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the gay press since 1985.
Jack Fritscher — became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977].
Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul].
Allan Ginsburg – late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy Love Association
Posted by The_West on 5/05/2008
Oh yeah.. and I stand by my comments.. AIDS is a JEWISH fraud.. If someone tells you that you have HIV, do take any of the AIDS drugs, because it’s the drugs that will kill you..
@Facio Libre:
Excuse the typo – I meant to type don’t take any of the AIDS drugs..
@Jason Speaks:
Ever heard of this concept??
Problem – Reaction – Solution
HIV/AIDS – Save US – Gay sex ed for 6
graders?
With regard to AIDS, it’s important to know that many people of Northern European and British origin are either resistant to AIDS or even totally immune. See “British Genes Resist AIDS”: http://britishaustraliancommunity.com/wp/category/endeavour-articles/
The percentages given in this article should be at least doubled, since so many people of largely Northern European or British stock are no longer pure Nordics, while at the same time recent immigrants to those regions were also part of the sample group.
If AIDS ever mutates to the point that it can be spread by droplet infection, almost the entire population of Asia and Africa (and elsewhere) would be vulnerable. But a large percentage of Nordics worldwide would be either resistant or effectively immune.
To see how a real, worldwide AIDS pandemic might work, we could think of a country such as Australia. It has a population of nearly 23 million. My personal estimate is that 40% or a bit less are Nordics. Let’s settle on 35% as a compromise. So perhaps about 8 million Aussies are Nordics. Maybe 30% of these would be resistant or immune to AIDS. 30% of 8 million is 2.4 million. Something like this number would survive a full-blown AIDS pandemic. Very few non-Nordics would survive at all.
An Australia with 2.4 million Nordics (and almost nobody else) would be a very viable gene-pool. That would be quite enough people to keep the bare bones of a modern technological society functioning.
Alas, Pat Buchanan doesn’t seem to be able to think in terms of larger issues like this. His proposed “renewal of Christian faith” as some sort of solution is especially irrelevant.
@Facio Libre:
So you’re saying that Jews having nothing to do with pushing homosexuality onto whites??
Not at all, many Jews are very active in promoting homosexual “rights” and culture. But I don’t know that HIV/AIDs was a hoax that was thought out beforehand by Jews. A scam or hoax means the whole thing was planned out and was known to be false from the beginning.
What was the swine flu video about? Was that a joke on your part? You said it proved Jews were part of the “swine flu hoax”. It was just Jews saying some silly prayer to ward of flu. How does that proves swine flu is a Jewish hoax.
That is an interesting list by the way. Jewish involvement in Leftist and gay causes is overwhelming. And it is amazing that Alan Ginsberg, who is celebrated as some kind of genius, is not better known for his involvement in NAMBLA, one of the most evil groups in the world.
@Jason Speaks:
What was the swine flu video about? Was that a joke on your part?
The Airborne Rabbis clip was featured at BBC during the height of the Swine Flu scare.. (look at the date)
This was the time when the MSM (Jewish media) was spreading panic across the world about a new epidemic (Swine Flu). Everyone was to get immunized.. They were giving out/selling flu shots.. They actually forced governments across the world (mostly Europe and USA) to stock pile on flu shots… You know what that means? That means as a precaution for public safety, the health officials of these countries, were to allocate billions of dollars to pay for this.. As it turned out that the flu was a scare, to fleece the tax payers for $$$ money..
The Swine Flu was no different than any other flu.. and it wasn’t any more special or posed a greater risk than any other to people’s health.. If you were awake during that time, and you were following what was going on at the airports, and what the press was saying, you knew the and had a brain you knew this was a Jew Job.
I think anyone who is awake knows that the main stream press is run by Jews.. So why nobody investigated and got to the bottom of the truth in this case.. instead propelled the lie to extremes.. It’s because they were part of this scam.. So the Airborne Rabbis clip proves that JEWS took part in promotion this scam. 2 + 2 = 4 It’s black and white in my mind.. I don’t know why are you having so much difficulty connecting the dots.. It wasn’t Hindus on that plane spreading these lies! It wasn’t the Eskimos! It wasn’t the Chinese!
@Pierre de Craon:
Duesberg’s actually featured in the House of Numbers video, which I stuck up above. Actually, aside from the can of worms which is the HIV/AIDS issue, the documentary is a good picture of how scientific paradigms are created, and once in place, are incredibly difficult to dislodge, due to entrenched commercial and career investments. It’s a treat to view, and a lesson for all on the receiving end of medical science.
@Facio Libre:
It was said in the alternative press that the purpose of this Swine Flu scam was far more sinister than just making a lot of money.The shots were said to first weaken your immune system and then a second shot would cause a deadly disease.It was also feared that these shots would be made compulsory.Fortunately after the first panic it all fizzled out.
There have been more of such “epidemics”,the Bird Flu is one of them.It is even said that the Spanish Flu of 1918 that killed millions of people (estimates range from 25 to 100 million,see Wikipedia:1918 flu pandemic) was artificially created.All these things would be part of the depopulation agenda of the Global Elite,which is a plan to reduce the world’s population to a manageable 500 million (as per Georgia Guidestones,see Wikipedia ) to be their slaves without the burden of billions of “useless eaters”.Whether this is true or not I don’t know.Anyway this monstruous plan seems to fail just as the Global Warming scam failed.
This is a trap. Buchanan is trapped and so is the author. Once again Buchanan goes to great lengths, with the author’s glee approval, of how immigration from their world countries is destroying America and its prosperity and security. Now we are going to get some PhD economist who will tell us without immigration America will perish. We then find ourselves going through some macro-economic debate with each claiming that the other is destroying America. “America can’t compete unless they have a larger less skilled workforce who will work for less and help American products compete.” “America is growing older soon there won’t be …etc etc”.
Its a trap. The reality is immigration is dangerous not because it may affect an economy or security, but because it affects culture and heritage and common ethnic bond and shared history.
This is a trap that only Whites fall into. The author is clapping along like something major might happen. It won’t.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
I totally agree with that.. At this point it’s so obvious, you gotta be brain dead not to see it..
@Facio Libre:I understand everything until you get to this part:
I think anyone who is awake knows that the main stream press is run by Jews.. So why nobody investigated and got to the bottom of the truth in this case.. instead propelled the lie to extremes.. It’s because they were part of this scam.. So the Airborne Rabbis clip proves that JEWS took part in promotion this scam. 2 + 2 = 4. It’s black and white in my mind.. I don’t know why are you having so much difficulty connecting the dots.. It wasn’t Hindus on that plane spreading these lies! It wasn’t the Eskimos! It wasn’t the Chinese!
How do airborne Rabbis prove Jews were part of this supposed scam? Everybody else on earth was flying at same the time. Can someone else help me out here? How do flying Rabbis praying about swine flu prove that the swine flu was a Jewish conspiracy. I don’t see any dots to connect. Can someone help me out here?
This line baffles me: So the Airborne Rabbis clip proves that JEWS took part in promotion this scam. 2 + 2 = 4.
No, I don’t get it. I guess you are saying that this videotape of Rabbis showing concern over the swine flu means they were helping stoke fears about it? And therefore, since only a member of the conspiracy would express concern over the swine flu, they must be part of said conspiracy? (This means my doctor is part of the NWO conspiracy to kill billions by the way – the bastard!)
And no, I don’t really buy the argument that vaccines are an evil plot to kill people. I remember talking to a lady that assured me that hundreds of millions were going to be dead right after Obama’s inauguration. Didn’t happen. Then she said that over a billion would die from the “cooked up” swine flu “scam”. We are all still here. People are healthier and living longer than ever before.
Don’t be like that lady. I bet you a thousand dollars, that the NWO doesn’t suddenly kill a billion people anytime in the next 50 years. Wanna bet?
@Franklin Ryckaert: Really, again with the Guidestones that crazy old Ted Turner put up, in between his wacky Randian and Greenie phases? Complete with their misspellings and shoddy stone work. I will bet you a house that in this century we add billions more to the Earth’s population.
Jesus, I could only wish we got some population reduction via birth control. The open secret is that the elites have totally given up on keeping population growth down. It’s not considered politically correct to talk about it anymore – that was last generation’s crusade.
@Jason Speaks
You’re a shill (or a Jew) Squeaks.. Your last post makes it even more clear.. Why don’t you get more emotional about your idiotic position.. that might convince more people that you know what you’re talking about.. NOT!
Did I say vaccines kill people?
Did I say hundreds of millions were going to be dead right after Obama’s inauguration?
Did I say that NWO is going to Kill a Billion??
Did I say a billion would die from the “cooked up” swine flu “scam”?
Do yourself a favor and stop inventing things.. go back and read my posts very slowly.. You know what? In your case, read them several times before you respond.. this might help you with a better understanding of what is being said..
Oh and I’m sure the clip about Airborne Rabbi was an innocent little slip by BBC.. just because you can’t see the obvious manipulations Squeaks, that doesn’t mean everyone else is blind too.. There is such a thing called Social Engineering.. look it up!
@Jason Speaks
Now that I shut your mouth about the Gay/AIDS issue, you switched over to the Swine Flu issue.. as I already told you.. I don’t have the energy to do intellectual ping pong with known shills such as yourself on things that are obvious to anyone with a brain.. But if you insist I just might have to shut your mouth regarding this issue as well.. so don’t temp me.. you’ll just look like bigger idiot than what you manage to accomplish on your own..
@Jason Speaks
Ever take any psychology classes Squeaks?? Do you know what a marker is?? Enough said..
@Facio Libre: Someone sure didn’t love you enough, long, long ago. You are a person that loves to dish out invective aren’t you? You love to call everyone names and make bitter accusations. You like to give orders about who can speak and who has to “shut their mouth”. I am not aware of any standing you have earned that entitles you to talk that way, nor am I aware of any contribution you make that warrants such an attitude. You go ballistic when anyone questions some of the urban legends (or shall we say more speculative theories) you put forward as if they are absolute fact. Not a good trait.
If I am blind to some obvious connection to Flying Rabbis and how this is absolute proof that the last Swine Flu was a Jewish conspiracy, I beg someone to please point it out to me. I honestly don’t get the connection. It’s not because I am a shill. Please educate me. Maybe I am missing something (being as kind and humble as human possible here in order to calm the borderline personalities).
You did not “shut my mouth” with regard to AIDs/Gay issue. I went out of my way to say something nice about anything I could find that made sense in one of your posts, and you respond by thinking you have triumphed over me (as if that even matters). Certain personalities confuse kindness and civility with weakness. I still think, to be as kind as possible, you are batshyt crazy with regard to AIDS/HIV being a preordained Jewish conspiracy.
You have attacked me and others in very personal ways in almost every single post you make. When someone is nice to you, you prance around like a child who thinks he has won a contest. You post silly, frankly embarrassing urban legends and pretend you are on the same level as any of the writers who post articles on this site.
Sadly, this site isn’t getting read by the audience it needs – intelligent, balanced, curious White people. I hope the editors realize that any form of catering to these mentalities will only hurt your own reputation. Any conflation between this site and an Infowars type outlet only harms this site.
@Bigmo:
The immigration debate (in whichever white country) should never be conducted in terms of utility but always in terms of identity. Of course its all about race,but Whites have been intimidated so much that they fear the accusation of “racism” above all,thus they conduct the debate with proxy-arguments: is it good or bad for the economy,the environment,overpopulation or “greying” etc. etc.But all those proxy-arguments are somehow susceptible to refutation by “experts”. The argument of identity goes straight to the heart of the matter.Of course the accusation of “racism” will immediately follow,but that should simply be accepted as part of the battle for racial survival.You say that as an ethnic group you have an existential ethnic interest to restrict immigration to the same or closely related groups as your own. Period. Any other argument to the contrary should be treated as an attack on your existential ethnic interest and bluntly rejected.You cannot win a battle with cowardice or niceness, courage and bluntness are required.
@ Facio Libre:
Yes, AIDS/HIV was manufactured, just as the Spanish Flu was, by the US Military. There likely have been others as well. No doubt the old Soviet Regime had their own manufactured biological warfare products as well.
The flip side of the disease coin is pharmacology. Big Pharma (controlled by Jews) pushes the antidote to “disease” through vaccinations. The AMA (American Murder Association) and other like organizations attack and discredit those who challenge the value of vaccinations. I heard a lecturer, who had been born in the mid 1930s, some years ago make a simple challenge to his audience regarding measles. An hundred years before his birth, measles had killed, maimed, or disfigured millions of people each year. He personally knew no one that had died or otherwise suffered, nor did any of the people he knew know of anyone who had died or suffered. Did anyone in the audience know of anyone? No one answered. His conclusion: vaccines were unnecessary as over time, and not a very long time, humans grow to resist disease. Other studies have found that whites who are “resistant” to HIV have been found to have relatives who were “resistant” to the great plagues in Europe hundreds of years before.
My point? Like everything else, Jews try to control both sides of the argument. Big Pharma and the Military Industrial Complex are both controlled by Jews. Kill us by disease, or kill us by the “cure”.
@Jason Speaks
Don’t you worry Squeaks, I got plenty of love, and still do.. I don’t dish out invectives at everyone.. Mostly you, a crypto Jew pretending to be a Muslin called Rehmat, and a Jew Ape Sh&%stain.. so that’s the company you’re in..
I went out of my way to say something nice about anything I could find that made sense in one of your posts
You conceded because, I presented you with irrefutable facts.. a very long list of all the Jews in the leading positions of numerous gay and lesbian organization that spread the AIDS fraud and things related.. then you switched gears and begun a conversation about another topic.. That’s called having your mouth shut..
Don’t drag others into this Squeaks.. My quarrel here is with you and you only!
All the Firefighters, Architects and Engineers, Explosives/Demolition Experts and so many others, with reputable backgrounds in their given fields that question what you call 9-11 conspiracy theories batsh*#t crazy???.. I think someone here has already pointed out to you that you are not the gate keeper of what is the truth..
These are not, as you call them, Urban Legends, or Conspiracy Theories but Conspiracy Facts.. and you Squeaks, and your cohorts, are not going to detract the truth from coming into light.. even though you try very hard to make anyone who brings these things up look crazy.. but facts are stubborn things Squeaks… You can argue your idiotic position till your blue in the face, but facts are facts.. Two airplanes cannot knock down 3 buildings.. into their foot prints and have them collapse at free fall speed.. It’s physically impossible Squeaks!
Spare us your crocodile tears for this site.. The reason you’re here is to detract, and confuse.. those are your contributions here..
So is it the opinion of most of the posters here that vacines are a conspiracy or at the very least very bad medicine that is unnecessary? Would most of you say that children don’t need to get any vaccination?
I just want to know what kind of people some of you are. Vaccines are Jewish frauds according to many of you that should be avoided, correct?
Obviously, Pat Buchanan should be President. Ex-Army explains why here:
http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2011/10/pat-buchanan-for-president.html
The TOO comments are at least 50% to 60% Jews and trolls trying to discredit the site by making the commentary here sound as nutty and insane as possible. Dr. KMac really needs to implement tight moderation.
Bigmo and Fanklin
That’s the point I make in every single post I make here, at American Renaissance and Alternative Right. Without even reading Buchannan’s new book, I know its’ a failure for it will send our fellow Native White Americans off on the fool’s errand of quoting the expert economists and psychometricians. Steve Sailer and Peter Brimelow are enraptured by the expert opinion of the “Experts”..even though it is 100 percent irrelevant. So by making Mexican IQ the fundamental issue, he traps millions of White Americans into thinking that they have better master the arcane details of psychometric reasoning. The economic argument and its’ sister argument-the IQ-race argument-both acknowledge the possiblity that if certain conditions are met in immigration policy, it would be acceptable to race-replace the White Majority. Why couldn’t Buchannan have stated in his book that he opposes hispanic immigration because they are not White? Now this would have really got the race-replacement enthusiasts howling..which of course have gotten us lots of free publicity. And he could have written exensively about the fact that Asians in our America are actively participating in the destruction of centuries of Native Born White American Engineering talent-future generations that won’t be developed included…now this would really provoke a strong reaction from the Asian invaders.
And yes there is expert opionion that can very easily dispose of the IQ-race psychometric argument…and the fact that the IQ test score-enthusiast are unaware of this just goes to show jut how clueless the IQ test score-ethusiasts are. Making the case against post-1965 nonwhites based upon the racial-demographic argument is the most powerfull argument. If we assume that every Mexican had an IQ of 250 would the case against importing Mexicans be weakened by one bit..emphatically NO!!!
I think squeaks could use another injection.. ;-) A swine Flu vaccination will do you good.
@Jason Speaks:
I am going to respond because I am NOT a paranoid conspiracy nut (like many others on here)
Vaccines have a long and proven history of preventing disease. Plus there are too many scientists working on them to sneak through a “Jew” virus…even if they wanted to. that would mean practically every doctor in the world would have to be a Jew agent….one word, STUPID!
It takes all my time worrying about the bad things jews (and others) ARE doing. I don’t have time for parnoid delusions.
@Jason Speaks:
I would like to dissagree with you on two points. (one)
There IS more homosexuality today than in the past
And (two)
On my side of the tracks, (lower socio-econimic class) if you see a white girl/woman driving an older model car the odds are about 50-50 she is with a black man or has black kids.
I have no way of proving this but I suspect 90 % of all American women between the ages of 18 to 50 years old have dated at least one black man….Make that 95 %
They don’t like to admit it around white guys for obvious reasons.
@Rehmat: TOO needs to stop allowing Hasbara playbook operatives pretending to be Muslims to spew their nonsense. They have enough outlets everywhere else, 24/7. Whites need TOO for themselves. Period.
@Henry Baxley: Your stats are doubtful. It’s more like 10% (likely less) of US white women have dated or what have a black. No doubt a higher percentage of jewish women have gone out with blacks than white women at large, despite their lack of belief in tolerance, multi-culturalism, etc. The 90% you hypothesize is along the lines of what jewish trolls tend to throw out there.
Unless we have a revolution? unlikely Pat B. will be wrong. He has been always right in his other books, we live in a time where the jewish grip on white america has never been this tight. People all all colors and creeds lose their jobs for a joke, coment, careers ruined over nothing, it is a shame on white america that it let it go this far. Look in the mirror and start asking what will I do to destroy the PC myth and the destruction of jewish power in my land!
Pat Buchanan is wrong its the onset of new era first propounded by the great KM in an all grand finale to wit…..
“The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races…and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel…will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition…” (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)
Buchanan worked for Richard Nixon. Nixon was worse for Whites than Carter or Johnson. It was Nixon who came up with section 8 housing vouchers. It is section 8 that has destroyed so many formerly safe White communities by bringing in criminal blacks and hispanics.
Before it was necessary to find the land and get the permits to build high rise projects. Nixon’s section 8 made it possible for HUD to insert violent criminal blacks and hispanics into individual family homes in nice safe areas.
Nixon came up with the Philadelphia plan, which destroyed White majority labor unions and other bastions of jobs for QUALIFIED American Whites.
It was Nixon’s, not Johnson’s EEOC that went from preventing discrimination against qualified blacks to agressive warlike discrimination against Whites.
The worst affirmative action supreme court decisions, Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber happened during the Nixon administration and Nixon did nothing, absolutely nothing to help the White side of the arguments.
Kaiser vs Weber struck down a Kaiser steel mill requirement that applicants for the position of foreman needed a high school diploma. Seems reasonable that a steel mill foreman should have a high school diploma. Not if a black man wanted to be a foreman however.
Buchanan has never been pro White. He is just a blathering bs artist like O’Reilly. Buchanan is like National Review and the rest of the conservative movement. Endless nattering and nagging about vulgar entertainment, lack of Church attendance, abortion, gay issues and other liberal positions.
But one will never, ever hear about any conservative taking a pro White position on any subject, especially affirmative action and black on White crime.
The conservatives all claim that Detroit was destroyed by the labor unions. They will never say the truth, Detroit was destroyed by blacks. On and on the conservatives lie about racial issues.
When ever anyone calls me a conservative I immediatly correct them. I am a radical. I am pro White.
@Henry Baxley: I’m still not sure there is more homosexuality now, I suspect they are just more open about it and it’s on every TV show. I just don’t think culture affects it that much.
On White women dating blacks, I don’t think there is any way that 90% of White women have dated a black guy. First off, there just aren’t enough black guys for that. Blacks are only 12-13% of the population, and many black males are in prison. So that would mean black guys were dating almost 10 white women each.
@Henry Baxley: By the way, there is an interesting theory put forward by Greg Cochran that homosexuality may be caused by an unknown virus. Who knows.
@Pierre de Craon: @Pierre de Craon:
Right on. I have read PB’s last several books and have enjoyed and profited from them. I don’t think a racialist aspect to his writing is explicit but implied – touched upon – though there nonetheless. He seems a bit reticent on this but any fool can glean a warning. Perhaps this latest goes a step further. No other high profile conservative comes close to his rhetoric. He deserves credit here – if only in that he has so far managed an intact career. As to the Hitler, Churchill U W thing it was a pleasure to read and persuasive. An open mind may well be persuaded to completely rethink the irrefragable “good war” maxim. And one is right to conclude that every Buchanan book is a help to the cause.
@wattylersrevolt: Why couldn’t Buchannan have stated in his book that he opposes hispanic immigration because they are not White?
Probably because the book would never be published if he said that, unfortunately. I do think pointing out IQ differences is valuable, since importing people who are non-White and dumb is doubly harmful. And it can also be a way of pointing out that there are differences between the races. Pointing out provable racial differences should support race realism.
But your point is still valid. IQ is not the only thing that matters, after all, Jews have decent IQs and how has that worked out for America? Maybe what’s needed is a scientific argument for why races and/or ethnicites tend to thrive when they live in homogeneous societies. There is tons of evidence that people in homogeneous societies are happier.
John hearns
October 2, 2011 – 10:50 pm | Permalink
The anus is not meant to be filled with sperm . Sperm burrows in to the wall of the anus . Vaginas have a lining made to with stand burrowing sperm . Anuses are not . This is probably a big factor with gays and getting ” aids ”
But who really knows what aids is ? It is very reasonable to question if there is some big time jewing going on with “aids”
For those who are interested; here are the facts.
The lining of the anus is 1 cell thick, very premeable. There are receptor cells on the inside of the anus. They have little hooks that seize whatever is going through the intestines.
Food goes through the stomach to the intestines and thence to the blood stream where the nutritional elements are distribued to various cells.
Getting nutrition from stomach to blood stream is why the lining of the intestinal system is only 1 cell thick. It is why there are receptor cells in the intestinal system.
The lining of a vagina is arranged to give birth to babies. It is 28 cells thick. It has vertical, horizontal and diagonal layers. It is like a fan belt. It is very strong. It is very rubbery. It can be batterred without breaking unlike the lining of the intestinal system
The mucous lining is very anti septic.
That is why it is almost impossible for a woman to get AIDS even if she has vaginal intercourse with an AIDS infected man. The virus will be destroyed by the antiseptic mucous. It will never penetrate the thick defensive 28 cell thick wall.
Of course if a woman has anal sex with an AIDS infected man she will get AIDS easily due to the location where the AIDS virus is deposited.
The gay movement used AIDS to get billions of dollars in goverment and foundation funds to “fight AIDS”
Almost all that money was used to promote the gay agenda.
Way back in the early 1980′s the Journal of the American Medical Association published some statistics about these AIDS awareness groups.
There were 12 AIDS workers to every AIDS patient. Only 1 of those 12 workers had anything to do with research to eradicate the disease or medical care for the patients.
The other 11 were advocating, counseling, , raising awareness and being activists. They did nothing to help AIDS patients.
The gays used those billions of tax payers money and tax exempt donations to provide themselves with well paid jobs and to push the gay agenda.
@mari: There is no doubt that AIDs funding is highly politicized. And no doubt that under the guise of education and counseling, they try and promote gay “rights” and the Left’s cultural agenda in general. In fact, this happens almost anytime the government becomes highly involved in medical research or any other area.
I can’t think of any Roman Catholic politician of any stature, who isn’t pushing the homosexual agenda. Can you name one? I don’t think so.
@Tom: Well there is Rick Santorum. But all the politicians have surrendered on gay rights. They don’t all push it, but almost none right it anymore. The gay groups are so vicious and raise so much money, combined with total media support, they are able to destroy anyone that gets in their way – or at the very least, there doesn’t seem to be any advantage to a politician opposing the gay agenda – from a political viewpoint.
@N. Zhids:
10 % !? you must live on an isolated rural Montana ranch.
@Jason Speaks:
There is a symbiotic relationship between homosexuality and culture…the culture creates it, and it creates the culture.
If there were any where near the number of homosexuals one hundred, or even fifty years ago as there are today we wouldn’t have had a baby-boom after the big war because homosexuals tend not to breed.
Also, the causes of homosexuality have more to to with social and environmental memes than any genetic predisposition…
It wasn’t ACCEPTED back in the day, so PEOPLE DIDN”T CHOOSE TO BE HOMOSEXUAL.
On interracial dating, a social sexual predator such as most profesional atheletes, preachers, and politicians have sex not just with ten women, but sometimes HUNDREDS of women, so you would need to adjust the numbers to compensate for the lower population.
@Henry Baxley: Did you really choose to think Playboy magazine was the most awesome thing ever invented when you were a kid of a certain age? I suddenly found myself captivated by the idea of nude women, whether I liked it or not. In fact, a huge amount of religious culture (and feminist culture nowadays) has been devoted to squelching sexual desires for women, to no avail. As I remember it, heterosexuality chose me, not the other way around – lol.
It’s my understanding that countries often have baby-booms after big wars. Anyway, the lower birthrate today doesn’t seem to be from males not having sex with women, but from the availability birth control and abortion.
It’s hard to find statistics for interracial marriage, but this grid from wikipedia (based on 2010 census) sheds some light. Bear in mind this is marriage, not dating or even living together. The grid shows that there are 50 million White married couples in the US. Couples that inclue a black man with a White wife are 390 thousand couples, quite a bit smaller (less than 1% if my math is right).
This is also interesting: White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, … 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse
Again, this is for marriage, which will of course be less than the number who only date interracially. I do think we have to worry about miscegenation in the long run (our country suffering the fate of Brazil), but for now it looks like we haven’t quite crossed that Rubicon.
Here is the wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States#Census_Bureau_statistics
First of all, I have to say that Pat Buchanan is one of the greatest vocal proponents of white nationalist ideas within the mold of the old paleo-conservative tradition. I agree that this is reactionary and outdated, but as a respected journalist that gets on the MSM he is an excellent voice. As for all the bickering on here, I think people have way too much time on their hands and should focus some of that energy in a positive way to help our race. America is finished – we are already one foot in the grave, and the final collapse and economic instability leading to total financial apocalypse should be applauded as a prerequisite to the real drama that is to come. Whites will survive because we are resilient, it is the jewish dominated system that killed us, so the sooner it goes the better. Ron Paul is the best candidate right now because he wants to shrink Federal power, but again – the sooner we die as a nation the quicker we can begin resurrecting our race for the future.
mari, I think its impossible for you to make a case that Nixon was a bigger disaster for our race than Johnson. Johnson was the civil rights president and the man that opened up the floodgates for the third world.
Jason, you are rational, logical thinker – so just ignore the idiotic childish people that attack you. A big problem I have noticed is that if you get enough white nationalists in a forum it is only a matter of time until they start calling each other jews, agents, provocateurs for having opposing views, etc. it is unfortunate because there indeed are jews that infiltrate us and cause internal division, and that creates legitimate worries about people’s identity/motivations for saying things – but usually it is just paranoid thinking of whites that leads to a deconstruction/deterioration in conversation. As for AIDS – i am always open to alternative views – but I agree, people that blame things on Jews for which they most likely are NOT responsible actually hurts our cause and discredits us from all the REAL things they do influence.
the idea of AIDs being a conspiracy to make society more homosexual is preposterous when it was homosexual communities that AIDS attacked when it first appeared, and continue to do so. I for one completely understand the conspiratorial mindset/worldview, but too often people take it to the extreme and believe everything they read (Hitler was a Rothschild agent, etc.). As for Jews pushing homosexuality, no argument there. People do need to stop viewing Jews as omnipotent beings that control everything and cannot be stopped – with that mindset we will never overcome them. Yes they are virtually in charge of the U.S., but do to their own parasitic activities they have contributed greatly to (not caused) our own demise, and soon the deck of cards will be reshuffled.
As for Buchanan – he is the go-to-man to try and inject race consciousness/realism into any conservative that hasn’t seen the light. All the attacks on him are ridiculous – obviously there are limits to what he can say and how far he can go being a mainstream dissenting voice and still keep his platform.
@Jason Speaks:
As far as I know Santorum was in favor of doing away with “don’t ask, don’t tell”. Anyway, Santorum doesn’t currently hold any political office.
Santorum’s big issue has always been abortion, which is a cat chasing its tail argument that is uniquely Roman Catholic.
Santorum is right up there on the summit of incorrigible ball washers for the Jew. He makes a professional shabbos goy John McCain look like William Pierce in comparison.
The context and parameters of debate in which Buchanan pretends to engage had long been established before him by Team Yitzhak. He can make all the nasal sounds he wishes within those confines, and still expect his NBC check to clear.
But watch what would happen the instance he hops over that fence and pulls joesobran on the kosher ones.
P.S. His prose stinks. I could probably write as well (or should that be as bad) as him. And I, Heaven knows, am nobody’s poet.
Franklin Ryckaert
October 3, 2011 – 8:33 am | Permalink
@Bigmo:
“The immigration debate (in whichever white country) should never be conducted in terms of utility but always in terms of identity. Of course its all about race,but Whites have been intimidated so much that they fear the accusation of “racism” above all,thus they conduct the debate with proxy-arguments: is it good or bad for the economy,the environment,overpopulation or “greying” etc. etc.But all those proxy-arguments are somehow susceptible to refutation by “experts”. The argument of identity goes straight to the heart of the matter.Of course the accusation of “racism” will immediately follow,but that should simply be accepted as part of the battle for racial survival.You say that as an ethnic group you have an existential ethnic interest to restrict immigration to the same or closely related groups as your own. Period. Any other argument to the contrary should be treated as an attack on your existential ethnic interest and bluntly rejected.You cannot win a battle with cowardice or niceness, courage and bluntness are required”
I agree 110% with this. All this talk of race and IQ and immigration and crime or immigration and economy is a huge trap. Only Whites have to justify protecting their heritage. Nobody else does it. To this day economist have been lecturing Japan to open its borders to immigration. The Japanese said NO, NO, and NO. When the Uyghur of China (Muslims) complained about the Chinese government and their immigration plan of flooding their terrirtories with Han Chinese, they were told that China is booming and jobs and all that. They said and still say NO and NO ands NO. Economic concerns must never take precedence over identity and culture. Nations rise and fall, their economies rise and fall. But their culture and identity remains. Nations get conquered and raped and enslaved, but their idenity stays where it is. Persians are still in Persia, Romans are still in Italy and the Greeks are still in Greece. Only immigration will displace a nation by changing its culture and identity. It takes centuries and centuries to establish a culture and identity. Race and ethnicity is the cornerstone of that identity. This is not replaceable. Once you lose it its gone for good.
And all for what? Its not like Americans were starving or anything. Its a total waste of time this talk of economy and security and IQ. The higher the IQ in fact the bigger the danger. The better the economy means more complacency and self inflicted suicide. Security, we will know when its too late right?
Its a huge trap. No compromise when it comes to culture. Non European immigration to America must stop under any circumstances no matter what the cost. Its that simple. Counter arguments is not neccessarily. This is non negotiable.
Look if you don’t like the American identity and want to change it then get the hell out. Who is stopping you.
@Walter Rauff:
Not really so. The immigrants who came AFTER the 1965 immigration act can be deported. At least their citizenship could be immediately revoked and a 5 year limit can be given so as to prepare themselves to leave the country. Most are Mexicans and Hispanics and can easily cross the border again. They have not assimilated yet so they can easily migrate back. No problem there. The Asians and Arabs can take their degrees and go back where they came from. China’s economy is booming so they can survive there. The Arabs are a few and can easily be persuaded out. They also have not assimilated and probably won’t. With all this multi-culturalism its hard for anyone to assimilate. Assimilate to what? There is no more culture to assimilate to. As far as Jews, this is very complicated and might get ugly since they would NEVER leave on their own. Too much for them to lose.
Blacks probably are the only ones who have no place to go. Their numbers are about 10 to 15%. They are enough for multi-culturalism. We don’t need anymore. Anyways they are still part of the American identity as far as I am concerned. That will make Whites about 85%. Thats good enough or at least better than what it is now and what it will be soon.
@Bigmo:
I can give you one last (theorethical) example in order to torpedo for good the “utility-” in stead of the identity-argument for immigration.Suppose you get the offer of a group of say a 100 million immigrants with the following qualities:
1) They are highly intelligent.
2)They are hard working.
3)They are law-abiding.
4)They have strong family values.
5)They are willing to adopt English as their language.
6)They are Christians and Protestants to boot.
7)They will be patriotic Americans.
8) They are willing to adopt all American values.
9) Their presence will be a tremendous boost to the American economy.
There is only one thing that should be mentioned,one small thing only:
THEY – ARE – CHINESE .
Would you accept?And if not,why is that?
@Facio Libre:
I am not personally judging the ideas being posted, but I would strongly caution people against using this site to promulgate theories that the great majority of people would dismiss as untrue conspiracy/fantasy. If you want to help, then best concentrate on the extremely well reasoned and documented criticisms made by KM, and add discussion/insights of those
Franklin Ryckaert
October 4, 2011 – 4:29 am | Permalink
@Bigmo:
“I can give you one last (theorethical) example in order to torpedo for good the “utility-” in stead of the identity-argument for immigration.Suppose you get the offer of a group of say a 100 million immigrants with the following qualities:
1) They are highly intelligent.
2)They are hard working.
3)They are law-abiding.
4)They have strong family values.
5)They are willing to adopt English as their language.
6)They are Christians and Protestants to boot.
7)They will be patriotic Americans.
8) They are willing to adopt all American values.
9) Their presence will be a tremendous boost to the American economy.
There is only one thing that should be mentioned,one small thing only:
THEY – ARE – CHINESE .
Would you accept?And if not,why is that? ”
Very good point. Imagine that now. The United States of China.
@Jason Speaks
I see nothing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8105U1WY9ro&feature=related
@Jason Speaks:
There are many who believe sexual roles are genetically based, and as with everything else, one can find evidence to support that position if that is what one wants to “prove”
I personally think it is mostly a result of early learning, so we can agree to disagree. as i said at the beginning, I can’t prove my suspicions…They are just observations at the street level.
I think we can both agree that marriage is dead in the water
and that does not bode well for society, whether or not it adds to multi-culteralism or homosexuality. It is by any measure dysgenic.
Big Brother wants your wife, daughter, sister, and mother to be FREE….
where does that leave you, little brother?
Jasonspeaks
I still feel compelled to respectfully disagree with you. I reject the claim that hispanic immigration is 2X worse than Asian immigration..just what is the benefit of Asian immigration to Native Born White Immigration..absolute 0. But you see what happens when you raise the IQ and race issue…thy race-replacement issue as an absolutely fundamental overiding issue gets completely displaced out of the “debate” space..displaced by an eyes-glaze-over-mind-numbing pychometric debate and “debating” space now occupied about how the Asians are a better bargain than the Mexicans…it;s one minute before midnight in “America”-demographically for Native Born White Americans and you want to to displace the race-replacement issue from the public “debating” space…it dosen’t make any sense. Now Native Born White Americans are being displaced from the public “debating” space.
Walter Raufff
What I wrote above answers your question”Why are you guys picking on Pat”. What you are basically saying is that something is better than nothing” and Pats book and something better than nothing and more. Here is the problem: if something and a bit more is fundamentally framed in the wrong way, then the public “debating” space will not include an intense laser beam focuss on the race-replacement issue. The race-replacement issue will-100 percent certainty-be displaced out of the public “deabating” space. I’ve seen it happen quite a few times. I have visions of Pat going on TV engaging in a long winded debate about IQ test sores and blathering on about how we can crank up Asian immigration again as soon as unemployment drops to six percent..now this is a manfestly really bad idea as far as Native Born White American racial interests..and I went into depth to explain why over at Alternative Right over in Andrew Nowiki’s post about the Alternaive Right conference in Washington DC. The Moratorium has at its core the notion that a severe labor scarcity would be a very bad thing..which it wouldn’t just the opposite is true…moreover, it was Corporate stark-raving -fear of severe labor scarcities that has drove post-1965 race-replacement immigration policy. This is not a trivial point…it is the fundamental reason why post-1965 race-replacement has taken place. So there are only two obvious conclusions1)Pat Buchannan is stupid or 2) he is offering a race-replacement Trojan Horse..the moratorium…as is Peter Brimelow.
Ron Paul is a vicious Libertarian race-replacement enuthusiast who would-with 100 percent certainty-use the state monopoly on violence to force race-replacement on millions of Native White Americans..he is completely unacceptable..he is fundamentally evil.
@wattylersrevolt: You’re spot on with the remarks about Ron Paul I hate to say, and the statements about Asians etc. as well. We don’t need Asians filling the schools. Sure, they’re “intelligent” in their own peculiar way, but that form of intelligence is one that can only learn and comprehend for the most part. Very little ability in the way of lateral thinking, divergent thinking, creativity. And very hive-like in many of their behaviors, similar to Jews in many ways. We don’t need any more non-whites. We need to repatriate them once the debris is cleared. For those who think this is impossible, keep in mind the Jewish bolsheviks moved tens of millions of different ethnic groups all over the USSR in order to keep different areas in conflict, in chaos, as in ethnic conflict and chaos. If they could move tens of millions circa the 1920′s, we can move tens of millions today. And it will happen, despite the snickers from some and the cries of “impossible” from the Hasbara agents.
@Bigmo:
There is only one thing that should be mentioned,one small thing only:
THEY – ARE – CHINESE .
Would you accept?And if not,why is that? ”
No , because birds of a feather flock together .
Different feather . That is for sure .
“Unfortunately, the ideology of White suicide is deeply entrenched in all of the critical centers of power in the United States—the media, the academic world, big business, and the political class. Unraveling this daunting infrastructure is a challenging proposition indeed.”
Although, I have distant Ashkenazi maternal perentage, I, nonetheless, consider myself White European – Irish.
What is needed are effective slogans that are designed to seep into the diseased culture of our presentl Marxist/Zionist hijacked institutions.
For example,
White for Life
Love Whiteness
Cherish Whiteness
Nurture Whiteness
Celebrate Whiteness
Protect Whiteness
Safeguard Whiteness
Propagate Whiteness
Honour Whiteness
and so on. Got it!!!!
White self-haters are basket cases
White self-haters are dead Whites
White self-haters drop dead
White self-haters not welcome
White self-haters stand down
White self-haters out of here
and so on. Got it!!!!
@Henry Baxley: Yes, I agree, the Left (or whoever) wouldn’t be pushing gay issues, gay culture and gay “rights” if it wasn’t bad for traditional culture. Part of it may be that there are tons of gay people that wind up in the media and Hollywood, which happen to be (unfortunately) the nerve centers of the modern world.
@wattylersrevolt: This is an interesting point. You are right, I would not be for importing 100 million Chinese, even if they were the same IQ and behaved decently, so it isn’t just IQ.
Here is why I think there is value in discussing IQ differences between races: The other side denies such a thing as race even exists. They teach children that it is a false concept, made up out of thin air. The more we can point to real differences in IQ, behavior, health, etc. that have a genetic basis and are different for each race, the more their argument that “race doesn’t exist” falls apart.
For people like us, this is obvious, but huge numbers of White people think their own natural desires to be with their own race is some backward impulse based on ignorance and bad culture (this is what they have been taught since Kindergarten). So, I think anything that proves that race is real and that races are different helps put counter the programming people receive.
But you are right, this alone can’t be the ultimate justification for wanting to save White civilization or wanting to live among other Whites.
While I agree that the issue should be preservation of race/culture at the forefront, instead going into tangents and other side issues – this is what separates somebody like Pat Buchanan from say, David Duke. In case you guys haven’t realized (and I say this facetiously) – the media is owned and under the control of an alien group hostile to white interests, and other than a quick moment provided so Wolf Blitzer can attack our views, NOBODY is ever going to get on TV saying an openly pro-white message. Plus, I think you guys simply overanalyze what Buchanan really says – when he talks about “demography” it is no different than saying “race” – just simply in more polite, politically correct/sensitive language.
I’m not going to get into a debate about Ron Paul – but I will say from the start – the guy is NOT a race nationalist. HOWEVER, he is an enemy of the system, which has become a collusion between big government and international corporations that have been the primary forces behind white replacement in this country. Not to mention he is the lone voice in the wilderness (with the exception of Dennis Kucinich on the Left) that has gained mass support in defying the Zionist driven foreign policy of the U.S. Being Libertarian doesn’t make one necessarily anti-white, in fact Kevin MacDonald has written on the favorable angles of this philosophy as applied to white nationalism. When it comes to immigration he is VERY much against it, and was the only Republican candidate to say in a debate that there should be an end to birthright citizenship (anchor babies).
Furthermore, for you (wattlyer) to call Ron Paul “vicious” when he is the only principled candidate that has vote consistently with his beliefs all his life – is one of the only congressmen to refuse the federal pension fund; and demonstrates the greatest humility and humbleness despite all the Media attacks on him and complete ridicule, is preposterous. I realize you guys think myopically with race as the number one issue, and by default – immigration. But as a whole Paul is the best when it comes to monetary policy (ending the Fed), foreign policy, etc. You can go cheer for a Bachmann or a Santorum, but you have to realize that they are all in the pocket of AIPAC and employers of ZOG.
Bigmo, I really think you need to reassess the state our country is in. The ONLY way all the non-white immigrants that are here are going to leave is if a massive racial revolution occurs, we retake our government, and they become enemies of the state, which for a massive undertaking like that would require a totalitarian government. This is Turner Diaries style fantasy. In addition, you have probably upwards to HALF of our own race that welcomes its own destruction, so I really don’t see a scenario as you describe as being possible. It is much more rational to predict a breakup of the U.S. and a separate, secessionist white homeland being established.
Some people here criticize Buchanan, but I came to white realization through Buchanan. I originally was a mainstream conservative type. Had I then read a website like TOO, I immediately would have dismissed it. But Buchanan turned me onto a new way of looking at things, which lead to reading paleoconservative publications, which lead to looking at various anti-immigration sites, which lead to AmRen, when lead to…. I think you get the idea.
Let a thousand flowers bloom. Not everyone’s path will be the same. I have a friend who came to the same realizations via an environmentalist path.
We should be rolling out as many carpets as possible, creating as many roads to Rome as possible.
The Lost Balloonist
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude and spotted a man fishing in a boat below. She shouted to him,
“Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.”
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, “You’re in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
She rolled her eyes and said, “You must be a Republican.”
“I am,” replied the man. “How did you know?”
“Well,” answered the balloonist, “everything you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your information, and I’m still lost. Frankly, you’ve not been much help to me.”
The man smiled and responded, “You must be an Obama-Democrat.”
“I am,” replied the balloonist. “How did you know?”
“Well,” said the man, “you don’t know where the hell you are — or where the hell you are going. You’ve risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem . . . . . You’re in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it’s my fault.”
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I stand by what I wrote about Ron Paul. Anyone who aspires to be president of the “US” should not be trusted..especially someone such as Ron Paul who harbors such enormous hatred toward the Native Born White Majority. Moreover, Ron Paul is not as anti-war as he and his fanatical libertarian supporters make him out to be. On the home front, his race-replacement enthusiasm is a declaration of war against millions of Native Born White Americans…post-1965 race-replacement immigration will provoke massive resistance among millions of Native Born White Amerians and there will be state represson against it..including a state headed by the wierdo Ron Paul. By the way, a vast majority of White Americans do not agree with his unregulated free market policies…privatizing social security for example.
As far expelling Asians..it can be done..if the will is there it wil be done.
A Reader of TOO
And if Pat Buchannan didn’t pull any punches and told it like it really is..what White Americans wouldn’t get it? Nonesense, they would be even more enraged about what the immigration enthusiasts have done to “America”..which is basically set into motion forces that will result in irrevesible ecological collapse. The problem with Buchannan’s book is that they lack the passion and outrage that would really create a state of terror and fear in millions of Native Born White Americans..the very thing that would instigate a revolt against race-replacement..Buchannan doesn’t even come close to being a 2011 version of Tom Paine..he just a mouth piece for Steve Sailer’s policy wonkisheness. Considering what’s at stake, we should hold Pat Buchannas to a higher standard. The Moratorium is very much consistent with the eventual race-replacement of the Native Born White American Majority with a hostile high fertility post-1965 nonwhite majority..that will be heavily armed.
Now,I hope that I am competely wrong about Pat’s new book..but unfortunately, I do not think I am.
@Jason Speaks
So is it the opinion of most of the posters here that vacines are a conspiracy or at the very least very bad medicine that is unnecessary? Would most of you say that children don’t need to get any vaccination?
I just want to know what kind of people some of you are. Vaccines are Jewish frauds according to many of you that should be avoided, correct?
Here you go.. Interesting facts about vaccine technology..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hITYIT02rA&feature=player_embedded
I sent this review to a Ron Paul supporter. He responds:
On cursory check I saw nothing about the theft of the Fed… the most evil, perversion, destructive force nearly in history. The conversion of a free people back to slavery through the false balance… the main form of theft warned about in the Bible… I doubt Pat makes any mention of the corruption of his friends and masters! He has studiously avoided the deprecations of that body, throughout all his years of currying favor and hobnobbing with the elites of the White House! Though sin is the great destructive force throughout history, the tool of the Fed, so nicely ignored by Pat, having never been constructed, would likely have prevented to a large degree, much of what the 20th century ushered in for the slavery of the masses, both morally as well as financially.
@A Reader of TOO:
Here here – Buchanon is doing an incredibly important job.
It’s terribly blinkered of people to reject Buchanon because of past mistakes. Our entire people have made the mistake of being slept walked within sight of our own demise.
Buchanon has been couragious in making the stands he has been making. He is bringing countless folk across by helping them wake up, helping them see that WN is a respectable way to be, in fact the only respectable way to be.
We really can’t afford to be rejecting good men right now. The past is gone…everyone made mistakes. Any man who will stand up and start making a difference gets an immediate and full amnesty for all past transgressions, because like me, like you, that man was probably asleep before.
Mickey Meadows
It is getting very late in the “game”. We should not be playing footsie with the race-replacement enthusiasts. Then immigration moratorium is pure unaulturated compromise..a compromise that opens the door wide open to race-replacement. Buchannan must be held to the highest standard.
There is a way of framing the issue that would provoke massive outrage from the race-replacement enthusiasts..we must provoke the stongest display of public outrage from the race-replacement enthusiasts…all we have to do is state the most obvious facts about post-1965 nonwhites…such as: they are the number one threat to America’s endangered spieces spieces..if Pat had stated this in his book..well can you imagine the scale of the howls of protest.
The Moratorium concedes the our most powerfull debating point to the race-replacement enthusiast which is that labor scarcities are wonderfull thing..the more severe the better…this is the fatal flaw of the Peter Brimelow’s moratorium proposal..it is a fatal flaw..it is the white flag of surrender..and I Wat Tyler will have none of this.
OT comment to TOO writers and editors:
Charles Murray has a new book coming out in January. It’s titled The Coming Apart of White America: 1960 to 2010.
Sounds like good review material if you van get an advance copy.
Wattyler, again, you are way off base on Ron Paul by calling him a “race-replacement enthusiast” and grouping him with the rest of people who are running for president. You want to know why he can be trusted? – because he voted exactly in line with his principles for his entire career and never flip-flopped once. There are a lot of Jews who are turning to the right now my friend, since the Left has become so anti-Zionist – should we court them? it seems like you would be open to that because you fail to look at the big picture of what Paul’s message is all about. people like Buchanan and Paul are as good as it gets in the mainstream, and if whites gave them mass support things would move in the right direction, but the Media still stands in the way of this. Giving pat a little time on msnbc for “balance” is just throwing whites a bone. You seem to forget that the State is in enemy hands, and it WILL NOT enforce any policies that are for the best interests of our race. the next best thing then is to support anybody who is for a total shutdown and cutting of federal power. States Rights would reign under Paul’s philosophy and they would be free to do whatever it takes to secure the borders without Federal intervention.
@Rehmat: I’ve listened patiently and carefully to your diatribes Rehmat, for months. But with is one, you’ve overstepped your mark. You’ve demonstrated that you’re not remotely my ally. You’re my ideological opponent, aren’t you?
…and only because I’m white, informed and educated…how pathetic is that?!?
@wattylersrevolt: I hope readers take the time to read your original comment, wattylersrevovlt. It certainly convinced me.
@Jason Speaks:
Hi Jason
First, let me say that I appreciate your presence here on TOO. I agree with much of what you write, and you’re ability to articulate your ideas is impressive. Thanks for caring about white people.
You wrote, “Sexual orientation is almost all genetic/biological (maybe 100%?), especially for males.”
I disagree with this. According to the American Psychological Association, which itself is a very pro-homosexual organization:
“There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.”
Virtually everything about the immoral homosexual agenda is based on the unproven belief that homosexuality is genetic or biologically determined.
I’m not an expert or even a well-educated amateur when it comes understanding the studies, but I have a strong feeling that it is mostly environmental; from what I’ve read and also just from what I’ve observed in real life.
And if I stop and think about it, the “born that way” theory doesn’t add up. For starters, if we consider what takes place between two males. We can call them Dan and Steve. Dan enjoys being the “man” in the bedroom, while Steve enjoys being the “woman”. (I’m not trying to be graphic, but you get the idea.)
Dan and Steve’s sexual attraction are very different, if you know what I mean. One, in this case Dan, is the “top” while the other is the “bottom”. So wouldn’t there have to be at least two different kinds of “gay” genes? Not to mention that lesbians are totally different when it comes to sexual stuff.
Anyway, I just wanted to share my thoughts. I’m passionate about opposing the homosexual agenda. Not because I hate the individuals who consider themselves homosexual, but because the agenda itself is immoral, dishonest, and well-funded/powerful.
Take care.
@Richard: Interesting point about the necessity for “top” and “bottoms” in the gay world and I honestly have no idea what the origin of that is. And I have to admit that you and the others that resist the genetic origin have some good points on your side.
I said homosexuality probably has a genetic and/or biological cause, but the most interesting theory I have heard is from Greg Cochran, who is a politically incorrect scientist. He believes that male homosexuality must be caused by a virus!
In a nutshell, he doesn’t think it makes sense that a gene for homosexuality, that affects 2% to 5% of the population, could possibly remain in the gene pool. It would be wiped out in a few generations since it obviously interferes with reproduction, so how could it get passed down? Good question.
He further states that while males of many species seem to play around with “mounting” activity with other males, almost none are preferentially homosexual. In other words, male dogs may attempt to mount each other (for dominance or whatever), but as soon as a female dog in heat walks in the picture, all those games end. They all go for the female.
So he is saying there is something really strange about preferring homosexual activity over the opposite sex. And apparently there are only two species that show this pattern: sheep and humans. Think about that.
The reason why I think it is not something that the individual has control over is how overpowering heterosexual desires usually are among men. Guys (especially young guys) sometimes live in misery wishing they could stop their preoccupation with women. And yet truly homosexual men seem to have an aversion to sex with women, which is truly bizarre from an evolutionary standpoint if you think about it.
So on the one hand, it doesn’t make sense genetically, yet I can’t imagine cultural forces that would “make” a boy or man lose interest in women and want sex from other males. Perhaps a deeply traumatic experience early in life would cause a male to have such a reaction, but I can’t believe that millions of American boys have had such trauma.
So, if I had to guess, I’d say it’s some kind of germ that affects development very early in life. Maybe this is why homosexuality seems to be more prevalent in the big city. And maybe the reason most males are “homophobic” is because we are the descendants of people who actively pushed the gay-germ carriers out of their communities (that is my speculation there).
Here is Greg Cochran’s article if you are interested:
http://home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/backup/An_Evolutionary_Look_at_Human_Homosexuality.htm
To Rehmat:
Nobody alive today had anything to do with violence or dispossession of the Native Indians. In case you don’t know, every race and ethnic group has had a history of violence. However, it is European Americans who have created the most civilized, advanced countries in the world. So civilized, in fact, that the people you claim are discriminated against are CONSTANTLY flocking to the United States and won’t leave even if their illegal status is found. They would rather live in this country with us so-called racist Whites than live in their own countries where their own kind dominate.
Let’s not forget the role that the American labor movement played in the decline of the nation. Jimmy Hoffa bragged he brought the working class into the middle class. That is when the problem started. The working class belongs in the working class; people with college degrees belong in the middleclass. Instead of a plutocracy, America became an idiocracy. The white elites had no choice but to import workers who would work for reasonable wages vs. taxing them to death.