Ian Morris is professor of classics and history at Stanford University. His latest book entitled Why the West Rules — For Now: The Patterns of History and What They Reveal about the Future was published in 2010. The British-born Morris attempts in his book to explain why “the West” has exercised global dominance without parallel in history over the past two centuries. His overriding concern, in this endeavor, is to debunk any “racist theories” that could possibly account for this Western dominance. Morris observes that in the 18th century “Europeans found that they had a problem: but as problems go, it was not a bad one. They appeared to be taking over the world but didn’t know why.” He notes that many Europeans drew the obvious (and reasonable) inference: Westerners were simply superior to other people, claiming that “For 200 years this thought cheered up western imperialists as they battled malaria, mosquitoes, and ungrateful natives, and still has a few champions today. But thanks to two sciences — archeology and genetics — we now know that it is clearly, unambiguously wrong” (p. 33). In making this unwarranted assertion Morris proves himself and the thesis of his book to be clearly, unambiguously wrong. (See also Ricardo Duchesne’s scathing review at Reviews in History.)
Morris writes that “Proclaiming racist theories contemptible is not enough. If we really want to reject them, and to conclude that people (in large groups) really are much the same it must be because racist theories are wrong, not just because most of us today do not like them” (pp. 50–51). A central proposition of his book is that the falsification of the multiregional theory of human evolution by studies of mitochondrial DNA, which supports the “out of Africa” single origin theory of human evolution, debunks any notion that White racial traits played a role in the rise of the West. For Morris, it is axiomatic that “If modern humans replaced Neanderthals in the Western Old World and Homo erectus in the Eastern regions without interbreeding, racist theories tracing contemporary Western rule back to prehistoric biological differences must be wrong” (p. 70). He acknowledges that modern Eurasians share 1 to 4 percent of their genes with the Neanderthals “but everywhere from France to China it is the same 1 to 4 percent.” He notes that other racial groups like modern Africans have no Neanderthal DNA, but that “the implications of this are yet to be explored” (P. 60).
Professor Ian Morris
Morris believes that now that the multiregional theory of human evolution has been falsified, “Racist theories grounding Western rule in biology” have been proven to have “no basis in fact.” People, in large groups, he tells us, “are much the same wherever we find them, and we have all inherited the same restless, inventive minds from our African ancestors. Biology, by itself, cannot explain why the West rules” (p. 73). Morris neglects to explain to us why, given that “we are all much the same,” those of “our ancestors” who stayed in their African homeland failed, despite their “restless, inventive minds” to develop cities, wheeled vehicles, mechanical contrivances with moving parts such as scissors or hinges, a means of joining pieces of wood together, coins or money, a single written language in the entire region, law codes, literature, philosophy, or mathematics other than simple arithmetic. Rather than tackling this important question, Morris simply reassures us that science has definitively proven that Europeans are no better than anyone else, and racial differences, to the extent that they exist, are “only skin deep.” He writes:
Our kind, Homo sapiens, evolved in Africa between 200,000 and 70,000 years ago and spread across the world in the last 60,000 years. By 30,000 years ago nearly all the older versions of humanity, such as the Neanderthals, were extinct. By 10,000 years ago a single kind of human — us — had colonized virtually every niche on the planet. This dispersal allowed humanity’s genes to diverge again, but most of the consequences (such as color of skin, eyes or hair) are only skin deep, and those mutations that go deeper (such as skull shape or lactose tolerance) have little obvious connection to why the west rules. A real answer to our question must start from the fact that wherever we go — east, west, north, or south — people are all much the same. (p. 33)
Unfortunately for Morris, the single origin “out of Africa” theory of human evolution in no way undermines the case for the existence of important racial differences in physical and psychological traits — including general intelligence as measured by IQ tests (which Morris completely and egregiously ignores). 40,000 years of differential evolution was enough to create the obvious physical differences between the races (skin, eye and hair color, skull shape etc.), and it is implausible that selection pressures for physical traits existed in isolation from selection pressures for psychological and behavioral traits like intelligence. Indeed, the premier psychologist researching the biological origins of race differences in IQ and in life history strategy, J. Philippe Rushton, has been a prominent advocate of the out-of-Africa theory of human origins (e.g., in his book, Race, Evolution and Behavior; see here).
Nearly a century of psychometric testing has established that differential selection pressures for general intelligence did exist and resulted, after 40,000 years, in significant differences in mean IQ (and associated behavioral tendencies) among the races — and that this has had, and continues to have, profound consequences in determining the civilization-building capacities of different racial groups. It is also a key reason why Third-World immigration to the West is so dysfunctional. Years before Darwin’s Origin of Species, the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer noted the clear link between skin color and intelligence, and offered a cogent explanation for this nexus, noting that:
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer in colour than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want, and misery, which, in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it all came their high civilization. (Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena, Vol. 2, (Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1974), pp. 158–159.)
Schopenhauer’s intuitive understanding of the link between race and intelligence has been more recently affirmed by psychologists like Richard Lynn and J. Phillipe Rushton, who contend that groups that resided for many millennia in regions with cold winters gradually — through the process of natural selection — evolved higher intelligence than groups living in milder climates. Rushton notes how “colonizing temperate and cold environments leads to increased cognitive demands to solve the problems of gathering food and gaining shelter and general survival in cold winters.” According to Rushton, “cognitive demands of manufacturing sophisticated tools and making fires, clothing, and shelters (as well as regulating the storage of food) would have selected for higher average intelligence levels than in the less cognitively demanding environment in sub-Saharan Africa. Those individuals who could not solve these problems of survival would have died out, leaving those with alleles for higher intelligence as the survivors” (J. P. Rushton, Race, Evolution and Behavior, 3rd ed., pp. 228—229)
World IQ in 1500
A consequence is that those tracing their origins to Northern Asia and Europe now have mean IQs of about 100, while those from sub-Saharan Africa have a mean IQ of around 70, and those from the broad intermediate zone (stretching from north Africa across southern Asia and into Indonesia) have mean IQs in the 80–90 range. These figures are confirmed by numerous IQ tests taken over a period of more than 80 years from around the world, measures of average brain size (which is positively correlated with general intelligence), the poor relative performance of Blacks in Europe and America in intellectual endeavors, and the extreme backwardness of the countries in the “secluded zone” of sub-Saharan Africa before they had contact with either Islamic or European civilization, continuing up to the present day. Moreover, as Michael Hart notes:
The countries in sub-Saharan Africa remain backward today, compared with third-world countries on other continents. Most of them have largely discarded the democratic institutions bequeathed them by the Europeans countries that once ruled them, and on virtually every measure of social, cultural, or economic well-being they rank at the bottom. Countries such as Angola, Gabon, Zimbabwe, Guinea, and Uganda are separated from each other by thousands of miles; they differ in topography, climate, language, religion, and history. The only factors they have in common are race and the low average intelligence of their inhabitants. (Michael Hart, Understanding Human History: An analysis including the effects of geography and differential evolution, Washington Summit Publishers, Augusta GA, 2007, p. 111).
Despite the abundant IQ data and the huge gulf in civilizational attainment between the races, Morris steadfastly adheres to his contention that the falsification of the multiregional theory of human evolution has debunked all racial explanations for the rise of the West. He writes:
In the nineteenth and early twentieth century many Westerners thought biology was the whole answer to why the West rules. The White European race, they insisted, had evolved further than anyone else. They were mistaken. … [T]here is only one kind of human, which evolved gradually in Africa around a hundred thousand years ago and then spread across the globe making older kinds of human extinct. The genetic differences between modern humans in different parts of the world are trivial. For another thing, if Westerners really were genetically superior to everyone else, the graphs of social development [in chapters 4–10 of his book] would look very different. After taking an early lead, the West would have stayed ahead. But that, of course, is not what happened. …
The West did get a head start at the end of the Ice Age, but its lead grew at some times and shrank at others. At 550 CE it disappeared altogether, and for the next twelve hundred years the East led the world in social development. Very few scholars nowadays propagate racist theories that Westerners are genetically superior to everyone else, but anyone who does want to take this line will need to show that all the mettle was somehow bred out of Westerners in the sixth century CE, then bred back in the eighteenth; or that Easterners bred themselves into superiority in the sixth century, then lost it in the eighteenth. That, to put it mildly, is going to be a tough job. Everything suggests that, wherever we look, people — in large groups — are all much the same. (pp. 557—559; notice the politically correct usage of CE rather than BC—an invention of Jewish scholars not wanting to date history from the birth of Christ.)
Here Morris assumes a strict genetic determinism that few race realists have ever accepted. Genes and environment have always interacted to determine the fate of nations and civilizations (the disruption caused by natural disasters and disease pandemics like the Black Death spring to mind). To maintain that, because the rise of the West (when compared to the Far East) did not occur in a strictly linear progression, advantageous European racial traits must not exist, is absurd. Europeans have, according to the abundant data Morris shamefully ignores, evolved higher intelligence than any other racial group else except for East Asians (who have higher visual-spatial intelligence but lower verbal intelligence than Europeans). Morris deceptively uses “the East” (meaning China and Japan) as his historical plumb line of comparison with the West on measures of social development. However, he neglects to tell us when exactly the West slipped behind sub-Saharan Africa, the Americas, South-East Asia, Australia or Oceania in the various measures of social development. Then again, that, to put it mildly, was always going to be a tough job.
Morris falsely creates the impression that the hierarchic social-Darwinian race theories of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries were totally dependent on the validity of the multiregional theory of human evolution, and that such racial theories have, accordingly, been debunked along with the multiregional theory itself. He writes:
In the heyday of so-called scientific racism in the 1930s, some physical anthropologists insisted that modern Chinese people were more primitive than Europeans because their skulls had similarities (small ridges on top, relatively flat upper faces, non-protruding jaws, shovel-shaped incisors) to those of Peking Man. So, too, these anthropologists pointed out, the skulls of Australia’s indigenous people had similarities — ridges around the back for attaching neck muscles, shelf-like brows, receding foreheads, large teeth — with those of Indonesian Homo erectus [Java Man] a million years ago. Modern Easterners, these (Western) scholars concluded, must have descended for these more primitive ape men, while Westerners descended from the more advanced Neanderthals, and that might explain why the West rules. (p. 70)
Illustration showing Peking man as intermediate between apes and humans
Note how Morris lumps together the relatively sophisticated Chinese with the comparatively backward Australian Aborigines, as if Europeans made no real distinction between these racial groups. European anthropologists certainly did speculate whether East Asians evolved from Homo erectus (a theory favored until very recently by the Chinese themselves), but few regarded them as necessarily inferior to Europeans on that basis. If they made such a value judgment it was based on a comparison of the civilizational attainments of the Chinese compared to the West at particular points in history. In fact, throughout most of European history the Chinese and Japanese were held to represent a superior human type. Hart points out how: “In the 19th century, when European explorers first entered the ‘secluded zone’ of sub-Saharan Africa, they were struck by how extremely primitive the tribes in the region were. This was not because the Europeans were blinded by ethnic chauvinism. When European traders had reached China, they had brought back glowing accounts of Chinese civilization: The Chinese might be heathens, but there was no disputing their wealth, nor the quality of their engineering skills, nor the volume of their literature” (Hart, Ibid, p. 19).
So how then, does Morris account for the rise and global dominance of the West over the last two centuries? Predictably, he draws on Jared Diamond’s theory of geographical determinism as outlined in his 1997 book Guns, Germs and Steel (which won Diamond a Pulitzer Prize). Diamond, who is Professor of Geography and Physiology at UCLA, argued that the West and China were successful because they were fortunate enough to be situated in a band of “Lucky Latitudes” running across Eurasia from the Mediterranean to the Yellow Sea that made the agricultural revolution possible. They were also fortunate to have many plants and animals suitable for domestication. The comparative backwardness of the Western Hemisphere, sub-Saharan Africa, South-East Asia, and Australia in AD 1500 was entirely due the corresponding lack of these geographic factors. This, he claims, made it more difficult for these regions to develop agriculture, and which, in turn, delayed their development of science and technology. Morris buys this theory wholesale:
Humans may all be much the same, wherever we find them, but the places we find them in are not all the same. Geography is unfair. Human societies have all followed the same sequences of cultural development, but geography has dictated that they have not done so at the same speed. … If we look back nearly 12,000 years to the end of the last spasm of the Ice Age, what we see is that climate, topography, and ecology conspired in these Lucky Latitudes between China and the Mediterranean (and a similar band stretching from Peru to Mexico in the New World) to allow the evolution of unusually large numbers of plants and animals that could be domesticated, vastly increasing humans’ food supply. Because people (wherever we find them) are all much the same, it was in these Lucky Latitudes that humans first domesticated plants and animals. Fuelled by these resources, it was also in the Lucky Latitudes that people went on over the next 10,000 years to create the world’s first cities, states and empires. People in Australia, Siberia, and sub-Saharan Africa stuck with hunting and gathering not because they were lazier, stupider, or better attuned to nature than people in the Lucky Latitudes. Geography had simply endowed their homelands with fewer resources, and domestication therefore took longer. (p. 35)
Morris, like Diamond, is eager to show there is no genetic component that might explain how the Europeans became far more advanced technologically than the inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa, the Western Hemisphere, South-East Asia, and Australasia. Diamond states in Guns, Germs and Steel that the idea that there are genetic factors which cause Europeans to be more intelligent (on average) than Australian Aborigines is morally loathsome. The clear anti-White agenda of Diamond (who is Jewish) is revealed by the fact that two pages after making this statement he informs us that, as a result of natural selection, the aborigines of the New Guinea highlands are, in all probability, genetically superior to Europeans in mental ability.
Jared Diamond (on the left)
The real problem, however, with the Guns, Germs and Steel thesis, is that the facts refute the theory, particularly when applied to a comparison between sub-Saharan Africa and Mesoamerica. Hart notes how the geographic factors mentioned by Diamond strongly favored sub-Saharan Africa over Mesoamerica — meaning that civilization should have begun there earlier, and it should have progressed more there (prior to the European expansion of modern times) than it did in Mesoamerica. Sub-Saharan Africa had at least five useful wild cereal crops to Mesoamerica’s one, and sub-Saharan Africa possessed many potentially useful farm animals such the wild ancestor of domestic cattle, as well as sheep and goats had spread south of the Sahara by four thousand years ago, while Mesoamerica did not have a single large domesticable animal. Despite sub-Saharan Africa’s many advantages, by AD 1000, Mesoamerica was far more advanced than sub-Saharan Africa was, or ever had been. Hart notes that: “Mesoamericans had originated writing on their own, had constructed many large stone structures, and had built large cities (rivaling any existing in Europe, and far larger than any in sub-Saharan Africa). Furthermore, the Mayan achievements in mathematics and astronomy dwarf any intellectual achievements in sub-Saharan Africa” (pp. 176–177).
Diamond attributes the failure of Australia’s Aborigines to domesticate plants and animals to “the lack of domesticable animals, the poverty of domesticable plants, and the difficult soils and climate” (p. 307). Richard Lynn (The Global Bell Curve, p. 46) notes that on the same page Diamond confirms that yams, taro, and arrowroot grow wild in northern Australia and could have been cultivated along with two native grasses which could have been bred to produce cereals. Furthermore, Australia’s climate is very varied and that “apart from the deserts of the central region is potentially suitable for the agriculture that was developed during the nineteenth and twentieth centuries by Europeans.”
Of course, even if the Diamond thesis is partly true, it does not prove that there is no genetic component to the respective civilization-building capacities of the different racial groups, and to the startling success of the West. Not that this obvious point would matter to Morris — whose thesis is so distorted by confirmation bias that he does not even deign to mention the voluminous data confirming the existence of racial differences in IQ. Nor does he deal with theories linking the rise of the West to Western individualism, either as a cultural variant (Ricardo Duchesne) or as resulting from a unique evolutionary history as northern hunter-gatherers (Kevin MacDonald).
Likewise, he has no time for any suggestion that Western culture is better than other cultures.
The triumphs of western culture have been extraordinary, but time and again, they turn out to have been local versions of broader trends, not lonely beacons in a general darkness. And if we think about culture in the broader, more anthropological sense of ways of life rather than the achievements of geniuses, the west’s history again seems to be one example of a larger pattern rather than a unique story. For most of their 200,000-year history, humans lived in small, egalitarian hunter-gatherer bands. After the Ice Age, some hunter-gatherers settled down in villages and domesticated plants and animals; some villages grew into cities, with ruling elites; some cities became states, and then empires, and finally industrialized nations. No society has ever leapt from hunting and gathering to high tech (except under the influence of outsiders). Humans are all much the same, wherever we find them, and because of this, human societies have all followed the same sequence of cultural development. There is nothing special about western culture. (p. 34)
The problem with this analysis is that many racial groups throughout the world never did (prior to European contact) settle down in villages or domesticate plants and animals — let alone go on to develop into states, empires, or industrialized societies. So the sequence of historical development he describes is not an inexorable larger pattern of human development at all. This is most likely because, as Hart points out (pp. 162–163), “The idea of planting crops, protecting them, and eventually harvesting them is not obvious or trivial, and it requires a considerable degree of intelligence to conceive of that notion. No apes ever conceived of that idea, nor did Australopithecus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus, nor even archaic Homo sapiens. It seems unlikely that such a notion could be originated by a group of humans with an IQ of about 70.”
Therefore, the evolution of sufficiently high intelligence was an essential preliminary for the invention of agriculture, with an average IQ of about 80 needed for the independent invention of agriculture. Hart observes that even in a region with a warm climate and abundant rainfall this single factor explains why agriculture was not invented a million years ago — nor 100,000 years ago, nor even 50,000 years ago — even though plants and animals suitable for domestication had been available throughout the Pleistocene Era. Richard Lynn notes that the transition to agricultural societies was not possible until people evolved sufficient intelligence to take advantage of wild grasses, and that it was only after the last glaciation that they were cognitively fit to do this. As Rushton points out in Race, Evolution, and Behavior (p. 232): “Lynn’s view provides an explanation for why these advances were never made by Negroids or those southeast Asian populations who escaped the rigors of the last glaciation.”
In speculating about the future, Morris sees the global balance of power shifting, over the course of this century, from the West to the East. Given his oft-stated refrain that “people are much the same wherever we find them,” and his apparent lack of any racial feeling, he seems unconcerned about what this—not to mention mass Third World immigration to the West—may mean for the future of White people. He is more concerned that this immigration be managed successfully, and that environmental problems, nuclear proliferation, and global food shortages be dealt with effectively at a global level. “The 21st century,” he asserts, “is going to be a race between worldwide transformation, and worldwide catastrophe, each on an unimaginable scale. Whichever wins out, the next 100 years are likely to bring more change than the previous 100,000” (p. 36).
In the final analysis, Professor Morris’s book is an exercise in the kind of White ethno-masochism that is guaranteed a warm reception from the Jewish-dominated intellectual establishment. The book was showered with praise by the usual types. David Landes, the Jewish author of The Wealth and Poverty of Nations declared: “This is an astonishing work by Ian Morris: hundreds of pages of the latest information dealing with every aspect of change. Then, the questions of the future: What will a new distribution bring about? Will Europe undergo a major change? Will the millions of immigrants [to the West] impose a new set of rules on the rest? There was a time when Europe could absorb any and all newcomers. Now the newcomers may dictate the terms.” Predictably, Jared Diamond extolled the book as “an exciting novel that happens to be true; an entertaining but thorough historical account of everything important that happened to any important people in the last ten millennia; and an educated guess about what will happen in the future. Read, learn, and enjoy!” The Business Standard even called it “The greatest nonfiction book written in recent times.”
Ultimately, the purpose of books like this, which on an intellectually flimsy neo-Boasian pretext, proclaim Europeans to be no better than anyone else, is to erode the racial and cultural self-esteem of White people in order to hinder White ethnocentrism — and thereby allow the White dispossession that is part and parcel of the multicultural project to proceed apace and unchallenged. The flip-side of this tacit objective is, of course, to bolster the self-conception (and the sense of self-righteous historical grievance and entitlement) of non-Whites. You will search long and hard for books by Jews, Asians, or Africans that seek to deconstruct their group’s supposed achievements and claims to uniqueness. On the contrary, non-White ethno-triumphalism is a well-established sub-genre of the culture of critique that flows out of ethnic studies departments of Western universities. Conversely, books like Why the West Rules…For Now are the inevitable result of the successful establishment of a perverted system of incentives in the world of academia that rewards White scholars like Morris who harm the interests of their own people.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
Another Anglo egalitarian. Seriously, is EVERY thought that goes through an Anglo intellectual’s head a variation of, “how can I cause more damage to White people?” I’m actually starting to think that the survival of White people in general depends on the racial destruction of Anglos. Western Europe would be better off if England were full of 85-IQ English/Somali hybrids who can’t cause any further harm to the continent.
“People, in large groups, he tells us, “are much the same wherever we find them”
One word: jenkem.
Just another self hating white person to spread more anti white propaganda to us.God does he even know that he is hurting his own to please those fucking jews!!!
Good to see a forthright discussion about the existence of a campaign of defamation against the diverse white American peoples. We usually seem to have difficulty to make full-throated sounds of anger and horror over the massive attempts to marginalize, corrupt, and destabilize our children’s right to a decent sense of self-respect. But in this essay, we see a recognition of the hate campaign:
“Ultimately, the purpose of books like this…is to erode the racial and cultural self-esteem of White people…”
Congratulations on formulating a language opposing the slurring, the denigration, and the defamation of our peoples and cultures.
But what happens to the logical follow-on, namely an outline of how to attackback the author and his publisher and his supporters with techniques and with suggested topics?
Is it really enough to simply outline the problem without providing solutions?
Hilarious that the author of this article wrote : Jared Diamond (on the left) beneath a photo of his and a Papuan!But perhaps Diamond wouldn’t mind being confused with a Papuan since “large groups are much the same wherever we find them”?
As for one of the main theses of Morris’ book that all human groups have gone through the same cultural stages,that is a BLATANT LIE.To be sure you can construct a universal scala of cultural stages from the most primitive to the most developed,but when you investigate the various cultures of the world you find that all of them have been stuck at a certain stage of that scala,some at the bottom,others in the middle,with only one – the Western – at the top.The simple facts refute his theory (the only way out would be the Boasian rule that we shouldn’t “judge” cultures and consider them all – in principle – “equal”).If we investigate further we find that there is a significant correlation of race (and thus hereditary IQ) and cultural development,again refuting one of Morris’ main theses that “large groups are much the same wherever we find them”.
The “Out-of-Africa” theory, which is so eagerly propagated by people like Morris (clearly as a trick to suggest that “we are all negroes after all”),doesn’t imply racial equality at all.On the contrary,since all higher forms have evolved from lower forms,it rather implies the opposite.The sequence of racial development with their approximate dates is as follows: Neanderthaloids (200,000),Negroids (140,000),Australoids (110,000), Mongoloids (70,000),Caucasoids (35,000).Thus there is a gap of more than 100,000 years between the development of Negroids and Caucasoids,enough time for the latter to become superior.
People who write books like this one are anti-Whites who are working for White Genocide.
They say they are anti-racists, but what they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
@Bo:
“…how to attackback the author and his publisher and his supporters with techniques and with suggested topics?”
Good question. How to attack the anti-Whites who are carrying out White Genocide and who call themselves anti-racist but are really anti-White.
I don’t know. Beats me.
White GeNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White
Dear Mr. Sanderson: Implicit in your review of this book is what I would describe as the inarguable observation that the social sciences, in their contemporary academic and middle-brow-populist incarnations, amount to little more than exercises in ever more vulgarly obvious logrolling. After book-flogging appearances on C-SPAN, an “interview” by Charlie Rose, and several dozen well-paid lectures hosted by Jewish groups, Morris and his book will get nominated for the National Book Award and maybe a Pulitzer. Mayor-for-Life Mike Bloomberg will stand on a chair to give Morris a key to the (Jewish-approved parts of) New York City. In a year or two, perhaps sooner, there will a BBC-produced, CPB-financed thirteen-part series inflicted on PBS audiences coast to coast. The New York Timesand the Washington Post will dub the series “indispensable viewing”—though no one will actually feel the need to watch it.
Along the way, Jared Diamond, Richard Dawkins, Nancy Pelosi, Newt Gingrich, Jesse Jackson, and maybe even Doris Kearns Goodwin will acclaim (or continue to acclaim) the book a masterpiece of history, anthropology, and neorealist fiction. Shortly after that, everyone will forget Morris’s name, except as one of the hundreds of truly cool people who hail Malcolm Gladwell’s newest work of genius, Relationships as Hemorrhoids, for its profound insight into why white people make terrible bosses, employees, and friends.
Were it not for this predictability, I might find the stated and implied reflections of your review too depressing for words. As it is and at a personal level, the thing I find most truly disheartening about your excellent article (thank heaven, that excellence was predictable, too) is the fact that the jacket blurb was written by Niall Ferguson, for whom I had such very high hopes after The Pity of War, now more than a decade old. He is, I fear, irretrievably lost to the Dark Side.
May you have a happy and blessed Christmas.
“Proclaiming racist theories contemptible is not enough.”
In the early 1960s I took graduate history courses and read journal articles that debated historical issues. Never did I read a sentence such as the above, where a prominent academic referred to theories that differed from his own as “contemptible.”
Of course our liberal arts departments had only begun to fill up with anti-Whites whose passion was White Genocide, and who labeled ideas that impeded White Genocide as contemptible.
White GeNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White
“He notes that many Europeans drew the obvious (and reasonable) inference: Westerners were simply superior to other people”
Even 150 years ago, I think most white people were not comfortable with the idea that some human races are simply stupid. The official point of view probably was that other civilizations lagged behind. It wasn’t clear if they could catch up with us. There was also the romantic idea that third-world savages were similar to our prehistoric ancestors.
The French and British governments had a paternalistic attitude and began building schools and roads in Africa, as if they thought that African peoples would later be able to rule themselves. I don’t think the French took any measure to try to prevent miscegenation. If anything, European governments believed too firmly in interracial sameness.
his oft-stated refrain that “people are much the same wherever we find them”
If so, there would be no reason to replace white people with non-whites. Especially since, at the skin-deep level, white people look better than non-whites.
But all of this is ridiculous. We only need to read the news, analyze school results, or get on a multiracial bus, to see that Morris’s theories are completely wrong. Not all people are the same.
Great review. This book by Ian Morris is also a reminder that anti-white Jews are not our only problem. There is a river of antiwhite intellectuals in the United States and Europe who are themselves white gentiles. Here in the United States a typical public intellectual is Robert Wright, who runs blogging heads .com. He is deeply antiwhite and has applauded the diminishment of the white race in America repeatedly.
He has rhapsodized over little children being taught that black, yellow, brown and white people are all the same. He believes this indoctrination should start before kindergarten. I would note that he is not a Zionist, in fact he borders on being anti-Israel, but he remins very anti-white.
I am also disappointed in Niall Ferguson for endorsing this book. Mr. Ferguson has shown some promise on a number of occasions, and while one can never be sure what favors were cashed in or offered that warranted this endorsement, it most definitely counts against his reputation.
“People, in large groups, he tells us, “are much the same wherever we find them”
Has this idiot ever been to planet earth? How does he breathe? Why don’t these hatemongers ever have to face the consequences of their bad decisions?
The usual left wing quackery . Thanks for reviewing this book and empower Our People against this taxpayer funded parasitic university promote deluded self hating white charlatans . They are now a dime a dozen hiding in their self referencing University cliques and promoted of course by the enemies of the European Peoples and the builder of a new totalitarian Government .
@Pierre de Craon:
Your prediction of the behavior of what passes for our cultural elite is dead-on. This is, perhaps, the greatest loss our people face. We can no longer have faith in our own intellectuals, either cultural or scientific. Fortunately, we are also a pragmatic people, and more and more people are left with ‘who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?’ I know many bright, young people who are insisting that their views are not prejudiced, but the result of real world observations made both on the street and in the classroom. This is after all the season of hope.
Merry Christmas and I hope that in the new year we will see more of your articles on this site.
@Pierre de Craon:
Sad but true sir!.. Then, SWPL will self righteously say things like this:
With that beaming, glassy eyes, narcissistic smile that white liberals have when they recite their beatitudes.
Because HISTORICAL CONTEXT is no longer explained, nor taught, “Mommy Professors” s/a this actually believe that the “blacks” who are their co-workers today are what the powdered wig men in ruffly shirts met and saw when they first got off the boats in Africa in 1400.
This is why so many thinking people laugh at academics.
Consider: the 24-7 Infomercial about the “failure of the school systems” that has gone on for 60s years now, on a nightly basis.
In the Infomercial (which involves the need for more money) the objects of stupidity are always seen in a classroom, raising their hands (showing they want to learn) and they are ALWAYS 8 years old, LOL.
They are never 50, like this guy.
But for 60s years, the “failing school system” (that never ends) obviously has children who grow up (like this guy).
When will the Infomercial for “failure of the school system” (which is on every single night on t.v.) SHOW US the generational aspect? Show us this guy? (lol)
@Jason Speaks:
Well put Jason. The problem is much more complex than being simply the work of Jews or “the Zionists”. We truly have foes of every shade.
Also–
If westernized blacks were REALLY ‘the same’ as Asians (or everyone else, whites, indigenous Indians, whatever) then they really would have high-tailed to Africa when the (now also defunct)— they would have done this because NOBODY likes hanging out with others who previously saw them as an underclass, (in the way some Irish saw many Americans, NOT as americans –as they understood themselves– but as English (or anglo) and to be defeated, just as some Jews saw the same Americans as Germanic, as “little hitlers.”)
Africans did not return, for they no longer saw themselves as “the same” only racially, and even then, many saw they had admixtures. If it’s ‘all relative’ no pun intended, how does this Mommy Professor explain not just going back ‘home’ (as a way to avoid having to have contact with euros).
meant “now also defunct Industrial Revolution” occurred. That’s what freed them. As the “ethnic” europeans brought for the Industrial REvolution have now been “freed,” (De-Industrialization).
People should consider if such changes in economy REALLY “free” the previous workers. The white working class in “De-Industrialized” areas do not exactly feel “freed” of their previous slavery at the moment.
But no one thinks of it from another perspective.
The Multiregional Hypothesis may be debunked, but that does not mean that the Out-of-Africa Hypothesis is itself correct.
I encourage everyone to read Erectus Walks Amongst Us by Richard D. Fuerle. He declares that OoA is on flimsy scientific ground, and raises the suggestion that OoA is not seriously challenged because politically correct (i.e., a doctrine of egalitarian theology, not proven science). He spends the much of the first half deconstructing OoA before explaining his alternative hypothesis: Out-of-Eurasia or OoE. He makes a sound case in both areas though of course much more work needs to be done.
Always remember, when faced with liberal assertions based on OoA, to explain why it is far from proven science.
His book can be read here:
http://erectuswalksamongst.us/index.html#Contents
HYPERLINK
@Armor:
You wrote: “If so, there would be no reason to replace white people with non-whites.”
But then they would respond “but all people are interchangable so why not?”
Simply put though, Western Culture was always implicitly White. It was not a proclaimed concept (nobody really spoke of “White Pride!” until very lately) so much as a fact, taken for granted. Look at any Roman statue. Look upon any painting, especially those designed to show ideal beauty. Think about how a Norse god like Thor is described.
150 years ago there was certainly by then an accepted understanding of inequality. In the ancient world, of course, the Greeks deemed all non-Greeks “barbarians”, and the Romans held basically the same view. In the Christian era, a racial understanding developed alongside an ethnic one.
For example, here is a quote from Calvinist writer Abraham Kuyper:
“From the high-lands of Asia our human race came down in groups, and these in turn have been divided into races and nations; and in entire conformity to the prophetic blessing of Noah the children of Shem and of Japheth have been the sole bearers of the development of the race. No impulse for any higher life has ever gone forth from the third group.”
Blacks are the “third group”, dubbed the Hamitic Race. It is only recently that the intellectual establishment became dedicated to radical egalitarianism.
Some groups, like the Chinese, indeed have lagged behind and now excel at such a rate they may soon be leaving us behind.
@fender: That is very harsh, sir. France and also the Nordic countries are full with people (“intellectuals”) of this type. In any case, a Black England would be terrible. A “Commonwealth of Polish England” would be far better, though the best occurrence would be if the English themselves could wake up.
This Morris lad looks like a flaming homosexual.
@Jason Speaks:
over little children being taught that black, yellow, brown and white people are all the same. He believes this indoctrination should start before kindergarten.
Jason, I have to agree with your comment.
Even when/as the above does happen, mostly in Christian circles as I had been indoctrinated, sooner or later it will show up false for the individual. That is if he/she gets to meet other races/cultures, or works with them. (yes, on some organic level we are much alike, feeling pain, loss, happy etc.)
The problem of attacking the European achievements, cultural successes in the sciences, arts, analytical growth, and personal/cultural (healthy) self-worth, is one of the problems our intelligence has to resolve in these melting-pots of cultures that started here in the US and expanded to Europe.
The none-sense has to be exposed. That Jews lead in this leveling process of making all men equal or the same is a strategic (and tragic) enterprise. (Picked up by whites from guilt feelings and lack of discernment and actual knowledge) So the question is, how intelligent is White Man, and can he resolve the current problems of multi-culti, and maintain an adequate and balanced educational system that fosters “Thinking Man”. Or will he/she recoil and end up with reduced power to influence society, at which point all others (masses) become the ruling class (emotional and reactive) and whites subservient as the trend right now goes. The White European Class now has to EARN her Right to Rule. How far will IQ go (or matter), and how far will people in numbers matter? (If the rest can’t pick up what you are saying) Perhaps a new selection process will be taking place. If IQ matters, we must resolve the problem in order to survive. (Individually and collectively) Are we all working on it?
Ian Morris, like most western historians – lives in self-denial. It’s the Ottoman Empire which had excercised global dominance than the West. Though several western colonial powers were able to occupy most of Africa, Asia, South America, Australia and the Middle East – they all were at each others’ throat to get the bigger share of the colonial loot.
Ironically, Morris’ West is now living under the feet of its less than 2% Jewish minority.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/egyptian-hitler-remark-angers-us/
@Reggie Seradly:
There are some rather interesting correlations between the three species of great ape, and the 3 races of human kind.
Gorillas have black skin, Orangs have yellow skin and Chimps have white skin.
I
n temperment there are interesting parallels between Orangs and Mongoloids, Gorillas and Negroids, and Chimps and Caucasoids.
There are also some interesting parallels in terms of appearance.
There never has neen a good explanation for the differences….and it is interesting that there are three species of great ape that between them embody the same differences.
This notion would have seemed crazy just a few years ago, but recently tehre is new scientific evidence that finds that humans may actually be closer to Orangs than Chimps. What this opens up, is the wider possibility that perhaps forms of human emerged from all three species of great ape.
“Diamond (who is Jewish) is revealed by the fact that two pages after making this statement he informs us that, as a result of natural selection, the aborigines of the New Guinea highlands are, in all probability, genetically superior to Europeans in mental ability.”
So Jared Diamond writes his book Guns, Germs, and Steel with a thesis claiming the different cultural accomplishments between the various races have nothing to do genetics and are entirely the product of environment; he than contradicts that thesis by claiming sub-humans from the third world have somehow evolved to be genetically superior to Europeans because of their environment? Hmmmmmm!
The hypocrisy/stupidity of our so called intellectuals really makes me feel contempt for our people at times.
Great review. The last paragraph is the most important part, especially about the “perverted system of incentives that rewards people like Morris”. The architecture of this system warrants more scrutiny. The system of rewards/punishments were put into existence by a hostile minority, but now have taken on a self-propagating life of their own. We should deconstruct it in order to foil it and in order to create an alternative incentive system to promote European preservation.
Michael Hart’s Understanding Human History is a fine antidote to Jared Diamond’s and Morris’s book. Curious that Understanding Human History is not found in book stores, while Jared Diamond’s and even books such as Mein Kamf are available in any Barnes and Noble.
Michael Hart is Jewish.
Reggie Seradly,
“150 years ago there was certainly by then an accepted understanding of inequality. In the ancient world, of course, the Greeks deemed all non-Greeks “barbarians”, and the Romans held basically the same view. In the Christian era, a racial understanding developed alongside an ethnic one.”
I question whether our pre-christian ancestors even had a concept for what we call equality these day. Such a concept contradicts one of our deepest instincts, the will -to- power, the will to create hierarchy. In a world of equality, natural selection could not operate, and life would never have evolved. The Pagan worldview was simply to organic to entertain such an idea.
Christianity and its ugly step-child liberalism have built an entire value system that revolves around this impractical concept of equality. If Christians want a future for their religion, they need to rectify this problem before it ends up destroying our people. Such a value system is poison, any people who make virtues out of Pacifism and Egalitarianism will eventually be replaced by a people with a Conquering Masterful spirit.
An excellent review of the kind of “equality” sophistry and racial subversion that is being peddled in the White West today. This is the surreal, contrived, racial fantasy world propaganda that Jewry and their credulous “gentile” minions are pushing…in order to rot out the racial soul of White people. These ethno-masochistic renegades and mind altering parasites are hell-bent on destroying the White gene pool, and their incessant, rationalized “equality” scribblings, such as the writings of Diamond and Morris, prove it.
@Reggie Seradly:
It is harsh, but I can’t think of any other White subgroup that has continually waged war- literally and metaphorically- against Whites as much as the Anglos have over the centuries. And yes the Nordics are just as bad, but they don’t have the international power that the Anglos do. Much of the world is run by the London elites, Jew and Anglo alike.
@Franklin Ryckaert: Franklin, you beat me to it!
Whoever captioned that photo has a good sense of humor!
I’m sure that Jared will follow his ideology to its logical conclusion and promote an interbreeding program in Israel, making sure that the Jews there all take Papuan New Guineans as husbands and wives. After all, we’re all “equal”.
@Bo:
Bo makes a good point. Every article, review or opinion piece at TOO which references an example of the anti-white narrative should include links which lead us to spaces where we can TAKE ACTION. It’s not enough to describe the problem, or be “intellectually correct” about the problem. We need a way to fight back against whoever is putting out anti-white slurs, memes, etc.
In this case, a book review, I suggest that either the author or the site manager insist on providing links to online reviews, the author, the publishing house, and etc. There is a growing group of people who are willing to ACT and undercut the anti-white narrative wherever it raises its ugly head. But we need authors and site managers to provide links for action.
Imagine if this book was reviewed favorably in the NY Review of Books, and there was a link to a discussion thread on that venue. Imagine if all the readers here got “on the same page” and hammered the credibility of the anti-white book!
I do this on a daily basis, but not from TOO. Why not? TOO is not providing us with links that enable us to ATTACKBACK the anti-whites. This could be easily remedied by providing relevant links at the end of every article of this type. Even sites like VDARE provide copious links to the “perps”, so you can email them and give them a piece of your mind. TOO needs that as well!
The long list of ant-western anti-white ‘critiques’ such as this book look to me more and more like the Lysenkoism of the USSR. Its so blantant and leaves so many OBVIOUS issues unexamined. I don’t know how these ‘intellectuals’ can maintain the cognitive dissonance inherent in their positions with a clear conscience. (They’re lying for the greater good– so they think)
‘I know what the conclusions should be– now lets go looking for the right facts’
Why are these intellectuals challenged on their assumptions and values more explicitly. The book review referred to in the article actually does this, but the article points out all the distortions and outrights lies that are blandly passed over without a word from the MSM.
Regarding genetics and race, here is a very intereting website:
http://racehist.blogspot.com/
@Gregor:
Good point, we must take action. The academics have had a safe place to hide among the comfort of their cohort. There are many on this board that have shown their ability to challenge the Establishment’s construct of race and IQ. Time to send some reality into the dark corners of academia.
@Jason Speaks:Jason makes a good point when he notes that not all anti-whites are jews.
This is NOT to say that a significant sector of jews IS anti-white, and promotes the anti-white narrative. It’s also not to say that anti-white jews haven’t skillfully occupied social niches where they can leverage their anti-white schpiels to great advantage for themselves.
My point is that “naming the jew” is, in many cases, counterproductive because there are probably more anti-white whites than anti-white jews. “Naming the jew” as the main enemy of whites has already been stigmatized to the point where anyone who does it, at least exclusively, becomes a self-marginalizing phenomenon.
It doesn’t MATTER what the identity of the anti-white is: all that matters is that they are anti-white, and are promoting the anti-white narrative. Attack them for this, and you will be operating from safe ground. Attack them for being “jews”, “mexicans”, etc. …. and you are on shaky ground in terms of maintaining your credibility with the peanut gallery. The idea is to INFLUENCE the “peanut gallery” by making a point: that point is made by labeling the anti-white as ANTI-WHITE, and thereby put him/her in the position of being a “hater”, “prejudiced”, “racist”. Put him on the defensive, and make him look BAD for others to see. Don’t say “jews are bad”, just say “anti-whites are genocidal against the white race”. Call them pitiful anti-white creatures, and strip them of their humanity for being anti-white …… and so on.
Whining about “jews”, even if totally correct in terms of the sociology/psychology/etc. is USELESS because our people have been so DEMORALIZED for generations that ….. no matter how “true” your facts are, they just don’t hear the facts. All they see is “racist, nazi, hater”. We can’t WIN using that kind of crap. We can WIN by setting anti-whites back on their heels and giving them a dose of their own passive-aggressive medicine. It’s FUN to do this, and they hate it. Also, the peanut gallery, who largely already agrees with us subliminally, loves to see anti-white ass KICKED.
@Gregor:
You offer a WONDERFUL suggestion of how this site and other pro-White sites can slowly and comfortably begin to become action sites as well as information sites!
Matt Parrott, what do you think? (I believe Matt is the site manager here).
Also, Gregor, please consider emailing KMD your suggestion. I don’t feel I have quite the grip on the idea that you do.
I think your suggestion is the most important thing I’ve seen posted anywhere in a long awhile.
White GeNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White
@Gregor:
Thanks for the reaction.As for the possibility of Jared Diamond promoting Papuan-Jewish miscegenation,I am afraid I ‘ll have to disappoint you : Jared Diamond is a typical hypocrite with double standards when it comes to Jews.
On the one hand he asserts that races don’t exist and that it is wrong to ascribe cultural achievements to genetic causes,on the other hand he asserts that Papuans are genetically superior in intelligence to Europeans(!).
As for Jews,Diamond disputes the idea that Ashkenazi Jews are descendents of the Khazars on genetic grounds and maintains that Jews consitute a unique separate group also on genetic grounds, a fact, he says, that comes very handy for the Israeli government when it is necessary to test whether prospective immigrants are “real Jews” as contrasted with dubious ones such as black Ethiopians…And as icing on the cake,Diamond ascribes Ashkenazi higher intelligence to a genetic mutation. But for the rest…he is as “anti-racist” as they come!
For a thorough expose of this professional hypocrite,go to:
Inconvenient History:Race and History,part 1: The Zionist Racism of Anti-Racist Jared Diamond,by Paul Grubach.
As for your idea of attacking “anti-racist” ideas in the comment section of the Main Stream Media,that is a good idea and it would give real meaning to the term “key board warrior”!
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Darn it Franklin! I had NO IDEA that Jared was such a two-faced bastard! (wink, wink).
As for “my idea” about attacking “anti-racist” memes … sorry to disappoint you. Far better minds than mine were “there first”. I’m just a follower, and just use their techniques in mind-war. One of those “better minds” is present on this thread: Bo. Another is Bob Whitaker. My only contribution in this thread is to SUGGEST to the site owner that he/they encourage writers to include links inside the text, or appended at the end, so we can actually go out there and DO something, rather than either nodding our heads in agreement, or squabbling among ourselves.
In Bob Whitaker’s words: Don’t just stand there talking about it, go out and kill something (anti-white)! Referring not to killing people, of course, but to killing the anti-white narrative.
My suggestion is to “weaponize” TOO so it’s not “merely” a discussion space, but is ALSO a launching pad for attacking anti-whites. Bitching and moaning is no longer “enough”!
@Hyperborean:
“Christianity and its ugly step-child liberalism have built an entire value system that revolves around this impractical concept of equality.”
I’m not sure Christianity is egalitarian as such. The mighty will fall and the lowly be raised up, so we read, but that is not the same as the mightly being lowered and the lowly raised, but only so far that they all become equal. Or am I missing something here?
For some reason north western Europeans have a highly developed mechanical aptitude.
Take for example Guttenberg who invented moveable type and modern printing. From all accounts he wasn’t considered to be anything more than normal by his peers. But, he obviously had a highly developed mechanical aptitude.
I don’t even know if anyone even tests for mechanical aptitude today?
@Gregor: Excellent idea! A good place to start on our own is the book review section of Amazon. I ignore the professional reviews, but generally look carefully at the reader’s reviews. I am sure I am not alone. I
would just urge anyone considering this to remember the goal and make us proud!
@Lancashire lad:
Traditional Christianity has always maintained that we are all equal in the eyes of God. It was the major improvement that it made to Judaism. That is very different from the modern notion that we are all interchangeable cogs in the machine. For centuries the Church was closely allied with and supportive of both the nobility and monarchy. Like every other institution in our culture the Church has also been influenced by faulty intellectual trends.
@Hyperborean: Oh, is that what Christians need to do? Christians are powerless. they can’t even restrict abortion, pornography, or gays from imposing themselves.
The only Christianity allowed in the public sphere is the Jew-sanitized version.
But real, historic Christianity still exists.
@matthew: I realize Michael Hart is Jewish, and I also feel he is a bit of a Jewish supremacist, but that doesn’t rob the book of its value. For example, he ominously places the section on Jewish intellectual superiority before the section on the miraculous advances of the twentieth century (hint hint). He also gives short shrift to Arab achievements during the ascendancy of Islam. But for that, the book is an interesting, well thought out counter against Diamond. Why didn’t one of us write this book? Besides, many, probably in the neighborhood of 50%, of the scholars that Professor MacDonald references in his books appear to have Jewish origins.
@Bo: Bo Sears?
So if I understand Diamond’s thesis right, people need to develop agriculture before moving on to higher level industries. If that is the case why are we giving slots to medical and law schools to unqualified minority applicants who would do better with 40 acres and a mule.
“Oh, is that what Christians need to do? Christians are powerless. they can’t even restrict abortion, pornography, or gays from imposing themselves. The only Christianity allowed in the public sphere is the Jew-sanitized version. But real, historic Christianity still exists.”
Yes, teaching life affirming values is part of what they need to do. Part of the reason christianity is powerless is that most people don’t take it seriously anymore. Our race has outgrown it, at least the metaphysical aspects of it. Until christians provide their followers with a new, forward looking worldview which is capable of giving their lives a new sense of meaning; they are wasting their time trying to fight societies moral ills.
As for returning to the real, historical christianity which used to burn women at the stake as witches, and our best scientific minds as heretics; you can count me out. Although, I would have enthusiasm for organizing another inquisition to purge our society of a few Jews.
@Hyperborean:
According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, 170,000 Jews were killed or forced to convert to Catholism under the Spanish Inquisition. American journalist and author Rose Wilder Lane wrote in ‘Islam and the Discovery of Freedom‘ that between 3-5 million of Spanish Muslims were either killed, expelled or converted to Catholism during the same period……
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/spain-jewish-history-without-muslims/
@Hyperborean:
“a new, forward looking worldview which is capable of giving their lives a new sense of meaning”
Eugenics can render all worldviews moot. It doesn’t matter what the worldview is, if it isn’t backed up by genes that favor future generations of strong, intelligent people, it’s pointless.
The tribe knows this, which is why they’re heavily into eugenic practices. Whites, meanwhile, believe eugenics is evil and Nazi-like. Unless Whites get with the program, drop all religious and mystical thinking and embrace science and fact, they’re going to become either extinct or hopelessly stupid, like Africans.
You here are very committed to science and genetics. But have anybody scietifically investigated the biggest problem, so called “white liberals”. White people have unic selfhate and some people talking, that this might be also genetical disorder.
Here in Eastern Europe is a very popular rumor that some people are “natural born liberals” . Some facts show, that it might be true. For example, in 1940thies comrade Stalin expanded his empire and local communists in the countries Stalin wanted to occupy, actively worked to bring down the local goverments. But what was interesting, Great Purge was only 2 years before and all their friends and coworkers got killed so they knew, that in case of sucess Stalin takes them first. And they did not escaped or changed their minds. They were loyal to communism to the bitter end.
Stalin of course knew also from the existence of this type of people and purged them out first. Because he was scared that they might turn against him. Is very difficult to rule people who are so mad, that they don,t afraid even Gulag or death.
This was extreme example, but lot of signs showing that the “liberalism” is some sort of desease, not stupidity or just corruption to jews. Many white liberals btw also hate Israel.
Have anybody noticed, that the influence on liberalism is correlation with war losses. Eastern Europe is most white nationalist place in the world and many people talking, that it might be because lot of those liberals got killed in the war and took their genes to their graves. They were most suffering group. Everybody hunted them, German,s, local people and also Stalin.
Sweden did,nt lose nowbody in the war and today it is one of most anti white place on Earth.
Is that possible that selfhate or liberalism or communism or marxism or cultural marxism or whatever might be somehow connected with genetics?
@ Fender:
“The tribe knows this, which is why they’re heavily into eugenic practices…”
Indeed, the Tribe has always known this, and even in ancient times they practiced a form of eugenics- encouraging those members of the Tribe who were less mentally agile to leave, encouraging racial purity among themselves as well as ethnocentrism and consigning those who were born mentally defective (mentally retarded) to state institutions for the mentally retarded (in the last century, at least). In view of these practices of theirs it is amusing that they have the nerve to castigate the National Socialists of 1930′s Germany as having been “racist” and aspiring to be “the master race”.
Utterly false premesis being spouted here. The ‘Nobility’ of ANY race has always seen itself as ‘superior’ wherever it exists. There has always been class structure in Western societies. As for blacks, they have always been seen as primitive and inferior. William Rimmer was an artist who portrayed blacks in his books as they are, more slope to the head.
Blacks in general do NOT have their Wisdom teeth removed. Their jaws jut forward, accomodating the extra tooth. The skulls in MANY (not all) blacks can be seen as obviously smaller, jaw larger. Whites often have the head jut forward, jaw under or in line with a perpendicular line. This, in ‘Darwinian’ evolutionary terms, is evolution on display. Add in black behavior, and there you go. More primative development, more primative behavior. Blacks also pop out earlier, sit up faster, they’re ready to breakdance at 2 years old. Sex at 7. See Philip Rushton on race differences. Quite shocking.
But really, when blacks hispanics move in, whites leave wether they are liberal or not, so it doesnt matter. The liberal brain knows a monkey man when it sees one.
Just@George:
Yes, Ashkenasi Jews did a eugenics program against Shepardic Jews the last century. Something about ringworms? I never did google it. The guy who wrote ‘None dare call it treason’ talked about it on his radio show. Never heard of it before that. Said the Askenazi Jews were trying to wipe out the Shepardic Jews with some made up medical issue concerning ringworms. He said google it to look it up. Anyone know about this>
@Hyperborean:
HAHAHAHHAHAAHHHAHAAHA. dEN WhY DEm Wite maN HaVe so mUch cArgO an wE gOt nun?
Sorry for all the posts, but you can’t edit here.
As I have said before, maybe others have also, ANY form of racism is bad for Jews, as it will eventually come around to bite them. This is a core Jewish belief, and who controls the media? This is why racial reality will forever be opposed by the Jewish Elite. This is why they have to be named. White moron liberals do not RUN the media.
The Out of Africa theory, deconstructed to its simplest form, is that all humans originated from Africa, but the smart ones left.
Buffoons like Ian Morris are not anti-White, they have the recessive “stupid” gene found in the overwhelming majority of the Africans who stayed.
@fender: Bravo, sir!
one zillion questions – how can you do this in total moral, spiritual and physical morass of entire white population? Who,
when and how to even take first step in aknowleging the problem? with deep respect…
@Koprarott:
“Is that possible that selfhate or liberalism or communism or marxism or cultural marxism or whatever might be somehow connected with genetics?”
I definitely think Whites have a genetic tendency to be too trusting, naive, and individualistic. However, it’s only made exponentially worse by the fact that for 2,000 years we’ve had to put up with a tribe whose religion commands them to deceive and lie to us for their benefit. That’s just our incredible misfortune. Had the tribe moved into Asia instead of Europe they never would have succeeded competing against the ethnocentric Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans.
I work in the minning industry, so I see a fair bit of the 3rd world and its ugly poverty. However I am struck that with the personal interactions I have that I don’t directly sense the IQ gap that Professor Lynn for instance has measured particularly in Africa. One can go to many parts of Africa, deal with Black people with very dark skin (ie non multiracials) who will be neatly dressed, multilingual exceptionally polite and with whom one can have an interesting friendly conversation. You will be shown kindness, you will interact with professionals and those with skills while cooks, cleaners anticpate you needs and take care of you. To be honest real Africa is a relief from the rather hideous and sick Afro-american culture. As an isolated White person you will develop relationships that become sincere.
I realise I might be dealing with an elites though the average person in a main street doesn’t come across as stupid unless one counts the large numbers of beggars as somehow less intelligent.
So I observe that the direct pesonal observation of low intelligence amongst different races is quite difficult.
And here, as White people, we have a problem. If I as a dedicated pro-White have difficulty people like Ian Morris or those already raised with liberal values are going to have difficulty.
Overall however one does sense a lack of common sense overall that can’t quite be pinned down to individuals and occaisional suprising lapses of perception when say installing machinary.
With fellow Whites one senses a certain characteristic of foresight and order.
There is a very good article on César Tort’s website entitled, The Future of White Women—A Speculation.
The article was written by William Ventvogel. César wrote a lead-in which at the link below. Ventvogel’s article follows.
http://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/lycanthropy/
@Alice Teller: Thank you, Mrs. Teller, for your Christmas wishes, which I heartily reciprocate. As for your other comments, I appreciate the encouragement. Yet few things are so discouraging as the ever more strident voices of the whitakerites and the christophobic know-it-alls on this and virtually every other thread of late. Do they even have a clue, I wonder, that what they are really doing is the Tribe’s work?
@me: What an irritating fellow you can be! Ever since I read your post, I haven’t been able to shake the urge to get started on an improved and updated version of the Beatitudes, one that would get me ten minutes on Charlie Rose—perhaps as the curtain-raiser for Ian Morris. So far, the best I can do are these two:
Blessed are the poor in carbon, for theirs is the Republic of Banana.
Blessed are the chic, for they shall wear fur on the earth.
Not really quite enough satirical edge, is it? Oh well; I see that my work is cut out for me.
There appear to be a genetic disposition toward self-destruction that is strong enough to overcome White intelligence. The self-destructive impulse was arrested under Christianity, but has now returned in the wake of Jewish-imposed de-Christianization.
@Rehmat: There’s no such thing as a Spanish Muslim. Only occupying Moors.
@Alice Teller: I’m sure that the Amazon book reviews will be seen by a few people, but that’s not quite what I had in mind.
I’m a lazy guy, a one-stop-shopper who is an impulse buyer and can’t resist a candy bar at the checkout line. I think lots of us are like this. Will many people go look up the book on Amazon and attack it there. I don’t think so.
Even more important is: how many people will SEE it, and who will they be? My intent is to take the fight to the more public and active spaces like comment threads on book reviews, videos, major newspaper online articles and such.
I’ve thought a bit more since first posting this idea. Now I’m thinking that at the end of EVERY ARTICLE here, which has potential comment threads on the topic in play elsewhere, there should be a segment at the bottom of the article, separate from the article: an “action links” box/section with several links to those threads. That way, once a loyal TOO reader finishes the article and gets ideas from the comments HERE, he/she can go through those links one by one and attackback the anti-white narrative. No waiting. No surfing. Just do it!.
The key thing is to make articles here “one stop shopping” for ACTION against the anti-White narrative. My feeling is that while authors are researching their articles, they’re probably also looking at just the kinds of comment threads that can and should be attacked. So little extra effort would be required to simply draw an “askstrisk bar” or a line, and a label “Action Links” followed by several links.
I do hope some of the site owners and writers see this comment. I’d like to think they want do encourage ACTION … in addition to describing the problem and discussing it here.
We can’t become openly “Pro White” very easily without first removing the anti-White narrative, and undoing the demoralization of our people. That demoralization was imposed with sounds and words. It can be undone with sounds and words. But only if we go beyond describing the problem, and get out there and use the right tools to shut the anti-White narrative DOWN. They GOTTA GO!
@Gregor:
“We can WIN by setting anti-whites back on their heels and giving them a dose of their own passive-aggressive medicine. It’s FUN to do this, and they hate it. Also, the peanut gallery, who largely already agrees with us subliminally, loves to see anti-white ass KICKED. ”
Agreed! And consequences are just what is needed to make this portion of our White community (who are denigrating the rest of us and Western Civilization as a springboard to further their careers) choose other subject matter for their “work” or pay for their perfidy.
@Athanasius: You beat me to the punch!
Merry Christmas, Athanasius.
@Pierre de Craon: Merry Christmas, Pierre.
An excellent and unexceptionable article, bar one small point.
“Likewise, he has no time for any suggestion that Western culture is better than other cultures.”
Terms like “better” are worse than useless – value judgements that open the way to accusations of racial supremacy. The fact that European peoples have more developed civilizations (incontrovertible) doesn’t speak to the goodness or badness of their cultures.
Damn good article.
Ah, more of the asinine assumption that the most successful people on earth, Oriental Asians and Whites, got to where we are today by sheer chance. Truly that is the dumbest thing anyone could propose, on the level of, “He was a good boy, he neva did hurt nobody” whence describing a black who just murdered multiple people.
The facts are Whites and Asians both have 4% Neanderthal DNA while African blacks have none. Whites and Asians both share the same lack of pigment gene, and both have similar dental structures, which are different from blacks. Clearly, Whites and Asians evolved separately from blacks and it would not be a stretch to call us sub species.
Our evolutions and migrations are more complicated and convoluted than we can imagine today, involving 100,000 years of tribes moving into new areas and even doubling back on themselves into unused areas for periods of time. To pretend that our evolution is all so cut and dry as to insinuate that we all just walked out of Africa one day and our skin went from darkest black to palest white, bone structure changed, and entire mental paradigm changed simply on a whim is so idiotic as to be laughable if it weren’t so sadly sold to the masses as “the truth”.
A “truth” based on nothing more than the elites’ and jews’ desire to force people to “get along” for the good of their artificial society is no truth at all.
Some people here might be interested in reading about Dr. Diamond’s academic reliability:
http://2010footprint.blogspot.com/2010/01/yes-mr-jared-diamond-vengeance-is-ours.html
I can’t help thinking the New Yorker article’s title is a window to his soul.
Hans-Hermann Hoppe makes similar points about a minimum threshold in median IQ being a pre-requisite for the Industrial Revolution. He includes a swipe at the chronic egalitarianism that has bewitched libertarians no less than others (and perhaps more).
http://mises.org/media/4691
Wouldn’t you like to go to ANY websites and give moronic Anti-Whites a dose of all this truth? Problem is, they ALL censor at the drop of a hat. **Show me some Lib message boards that allow free-speech.**
There are none, they hate free-speech when they cannot argue back.
If you open a fake face-schmook account, you might be able to post some comments as alot of media sites require face-schmook log in..
@Koprarrot wrote:
You here are very committed to science and genetics. But have anybody scietifically investigated the biggest problem, so called “white liberals”. White people have unic selfhate and some people talking, that this might be also genetical disorder.
My impression is that a genetic cause is in fact the favored explanation of Professor MacDonald and some other writers and readers at TOO. I am not convinced. Those who assert a genetic explanation seem to fail to take into account the significant environmental factor: severe sanctions on anyone who expresses a “non-liberal” position in the United States. We are talking loss of livelihood, friends, social network, and in some cases jail or death. Given such enormous costs, I believe we would probably be witnessing the exact same behavior we are now even if genetics played no role whatsoever. In other words, the environmental factor would be sufficient by itself to explain what we are observing. It may even be a necessary factor. As others have noted, we are experiencing a kind of mass Stockholm Syndrome. People are terrified, but the terror is pushed deep, deep into the subconscious.
Put Morris on the List.
And include his family, friends, and associates.
These genocidal maniacs, who incite mayhem and murder against Whites, must be made to suffer in the most personal, media-friendly manner.
And no, I’m not crazy and I’m not joking.
Give me the tools and I’ll do it myself.
Ian Morris
History Department
450 Serra Mall, Building 200
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-2024
imorris@stanford.edu
Professor Work phone(s): (650) 723-0479
Professor Work phone(s): (650) 723-0479
Work Fax: (650) 725-3801
Building 110
Stanford, California 94305-2145
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/history/people/morris_ian.html
Speaking of predictability, which has been mentioned in a few prior posts, I think the academic affiliation of the author gives us a pretty reliable indication as to the perspective taken in the book. The so-called elite institutions of America continue apace on a several decade slide into sycophantic allegiance to ideological rigidity in service of the ruling elite. It has gotten to the point that mainstream publication by a prominent university essentially automatically excludes the possibility of the work in question being anything other than more of the same propagandistic drivel.
I think when the dust settles and America’s pseudo-totalitarian regime collapses, the body of work produced by American academia in the late 20th /early 21st century will garner the same level of contempt currently heaped on the State approved Socialist Realism literature of the Soviet Union — nobody remembers or particularly respects Nikolay Ostrovskiy or Konstantin Simonov, but we all know Alexander Solzhenitsyn and Mikhael Bulgakov.
Ian Morris is a perfect example of the brand of pseudo-intellectual that has infested American academia: capable of churning out engaging, but utterly unscientific and dishonest research which, when boiled down to its essence, merely serves the anti-European, anti-West, anti-White overlords. That Morris is a decent writer and not a second-rate Party hack like many of his colleagues only serves to increase his value to the regime. Maksim Gorky was so highly valued by Stalin for the same reasons.
Those doing work of real value are currently toiling away in relative obscurity – either in minor academic posts or essentially as ‘free-lancers.’
Is there any evidence that suggests there is a link between genes and racial consciousness?
There must be, because globally speaking, Whites are the only race willing to attack and denigrate themselves on the scale we are seeing today.
Whites are the only race willing to celebrate diversity as they become minorities in their own countries. This surely represents a new kind of mental sickness. Our racial consciousness IQ falls way below borderline retard level.
Maybe the power of the Jews divide and conqeuor strategies are more powerful than a White ethnic consciousness…
@Gregor: Good points, Gregor. We need to focus on putting them on the defensive. Let them explain why they are anti-White. Expose their anti-White bias. Make other neutral Whites realize how common this bigotry and hatred towards Whites really is.
I don’t think we do this by calling attention to ourselves, or making “name-calling”(as in ethnic slurs, etc) the issue. Our opponents are all too willing to argue about anything except their own anti-White bigotry. They love to focus on our alleged “misbehavior” or anything else under the sun, as long as it keeps them from confronting their own hatred in public.
This is why I am not a fan of the Alex Linder style of activism – he seems more interested in bringing attention to himself than actually advancing any cause. And as someone said before, even Hitler didn’t use ethnic slurs in public, because he knew it would undermine his legitimacy. So yes, we should always project the aura of someone who believes he is on moral high ground, in my opinion. Point out the hatred that dwells in the hearts of anti-Whites.
@mod @WG: I’m not sure what this poster means by “suffer in the most personal, media-friendly manner.”
@Hooper:
Brilliant observation! After all, Soviet intellectuals and our current crop are all selected by the tribe! I sincerely hope your words give encouragement to those toiling without respect today. Truth will triumph.
@Pierre de Craon:
We must not allow these poor fools to drive us away. I attribute it to youth and the sad education they have received. Unless they are given the opportunity to read intelligent, effective responses to those who seek to degrade us, they will never learn any better. I am most saddened by the bright, interested souls who find their way here, but display such abysmal ignorance of our own culture and history.
Please do not abandon us. You wit and way with words are sorely needed!
@moonscraper: You have stated the primary question that our society must ask. Are there consequences for those who have lead us to the state of ruin in which we live? As the meritocracy that rules us fails on multiple levels when will the people at large demand an accounting? Philosophical and intellectual arguments have their place, but I am relying on pragmatism to save us. The greatest country in the history of the world is collapsing around us. We are still rich, powerful and largely white. When will ordinary folks start demanding an accounting?
@Hyperborean:
# of scienits burned at the stake? You forgot to mention that the scientific method is the result of Christian thought ( a created rather than chaotic universe, and therefore one that can be discovered- which is precisely what kepler and newton (devout christians) were seeking – and they were persecuted how? Oh and universities where for example newton had a chair.. founded by the church. (oxford, cambridge, etc)
Oh and one the oldest universities in ‘horrible dark inquisition spain’ Salamanca had a female math professor. Compare that to treatment in hindu india – where not just ‘witches’ but widows were ‘burned at the stake’ or islam. YOU are just as destructive and as much a detrement to the west as.. well, this man:
@Rehmat:
Rehmat YOU STILL Haven’t answered my question about the suras of the sword and how they override the earlier ones of peace.
You praise the ottman empire a few posts up than condemn Christian iberians for fighting back against moorish occupation.
Of course you also never mention that muslims enslaved white christians – particular white christian women – in fact muslim slave ships raided as far away as the english and irish coast.
You’re a liar and a moral coward because I KNOW you have read these things but you pretend not to.
Other posters have pointed out that they have posted respectful criticism of Islam or even just questions your site and the comments are deleted. I think we should start doing the same with yours. If you’re not willing to be civil, you don’t belong in the debate.
Oh by the way would should be done with Dante, his Inferno and anyone who reads or recites it (Muhammad in one of the outer rings of hell in Inferno )?
ANSWER THE QUESTION or stop posting here.
@Jason Speaks:
@Jason Speaks:
“@mod @WG: I’m not sure what this poster means by “suffer in the most personal, media-friendly manner.”
-He is inviting someone here (anone except himself, of course) to do something stupid and spend a few decades in jail. The post includes Morris’s address and telephone number and is so suggestive that its intent cannot be mistaken. I suggest that the moderator delete that post for the sake of everyone’s safety here including that of the site itself . There has been a number of incidences in the past where this type of “instigating behavior” has resulted in websites being shut down and lawsuits being filed against the owner of the site. I would not want to see that happen to OO.
@Athanasius:
You mean like NO Israeli Jews – just Europe’s unwanted Jews.
Fender,
“Eugenics can render all worldviews moot. It doesn’t matter what the worldview is, if it isn’t backed up by genes that favor future generations of strong, intelligent people, it’s pointless.
The tribe knows this, which is why they’re heavily into eugenic practices. Whites, meanwhile, believe eugenics is evil and Nazi-like. Unless Whites get with the program, drop all religious and mystical thinking and embrace science and fact, they’re going to become either extinct or hopelessly stupid, like Africans.”
Call it a “world-feeling” then, eugenics should be the foundation of this new world-feeling.
Part of the success of National Socialism was due to the fact that Hitler gave the German people a new world-feeling/weltanschauung which provided them a new sense of purpose/identity. Hitlers weltanshauung was based on eugenics and had a quasi-religious tone to it. “The Aryans are a mythical master race who’s destiny is to become superman.” Hitler understood that religion is far more effective at radicalizing the masses than science ever will be. Europeans haven’t fought any wars over scientific ideas, we’ve fought many over petty superstitious nonsense!
Hitlers world-feeling was very similar to what the Jews teach themselves with their Chosen-people story. It has certainly worked well for the Jews.
Anyone who study Zionist past history in Europe objectively, would find that they lied, deceived and cheated Germans by collaborating with Nazis; Russians under the guise of Communism; Italian while co-operating with Musolini’s fascist regime; British by declaring war against Germany, and American by draging them into WW II on British side, which promised them to divide Muslim-majority Palestine for European Jewry. Herzl even tried to fool Vatican – when he suggested to world Jewish leaders to convert to Catholism in a public ceremony, if the Pope promise to eradicate anti-Semitism within Christian societies.
Karl Marx, Lenin and Herzl – though pretended to be Atheists – but they could not get rid of their inborn hatred of Gentile. Under Communist rule, thousands of churches and mosques were destroyed, but not a single Synagogue was touched. Similarly, both Christian and Muslim communities were persecuted and tens of millions of Christians and Muslims were killed – but not a single Jewish community was persecuted.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/how-the-west-got-fooled/
Communism means that all humans eat, breathE, poop, procreate, and die. Period…that is what communism is.
What we think, the way we create societies, how we act and react, how we relate to each other…that is the opther side of the coin….and you cannot do away with the other side of the coin…no matter how hard you try, it is like making water run upstream… it cannot be done, although you can put all your might and resources to do it temporarily, the entire effort eventually comes tumbling down. It is like maintaining an inverted pyramid indefinately.
So the opposite of communism is:
REALISM
@Gregor:
Just integrating the ‘mantra’ idea with yours, it occurs to me that each instance requiring rebuttal would benefit from special care in writing up the rebuttal, followed by other people helping out by including it into their personal responses after following various links.
The main texts could be proposed right here, so it’s not really adding much complexity.
@Rehmat: The ethnogenesis of the Ashkenazi Jews doesn’t concern me. I don’t care if they’re Turks, the Israelites, or some other Semitic tribe.
Jews have nothing to do with orthodox, Nicene Christianity. On the other hand, Muslims have collaborating with the Jews for centuries. Only when Jews wanted their own land did you suddenly change your minds about Jews.
First of all, Merry Christmas to all and sundry, especially (in alpha order) to Athanasius, Alice Teller, and Pierre de Craon, with whom I seem to be of one mind. If I have missed anybody, it is because I have read through the entire thread at one sitting and cannot remember every single comment, for which my apologies.
LOVED Monsieur de Craon’s Beatitudes! Do, please, sir, finish what you have started. It would make Oscar Wilde or even PG Wodehouse envious! And it would give me some fabulous things to scrawl on bathroom walls. I’ve gotten tired of using “How odd of God to choose the Jews.”
Many of you here have made excellent points and have asked insightful questions. But I shall take Alice Teller’s post (immediately above, at least as I write this) as the lead-in to what I have to say. She writes, “When will ordinary folks start demanding an accounting?” The answer is that they almost certainly will not. First, of whom would they made such a demand? (At least with any hope of a response.) And second, it will very soon not matter. The world financial system–and therefore the world at large–is coming apart at the seams. The Tribe cannot stop it. The rsulting conditions will render it unnecesary to demand the accounting that Alice speaks of. Such things as “Feminist Studies” and “Black Studies” and all the rest of it will simply cease to exist because they will be seen to be the useless drivel that they always have been. They are destructive and so are their apostles. But there will soon be a ubiquitous destruction that will leave no place for such destructive things as university pseudo-intellectuals or anything else of that sort. Don’t worry. The world in which such things have arisen and gained ascendency is about to disappear. And THEY “shall be like the chaff which the wind driveth away.”
And when conditions of day-to-day life become sufficiently uncomfortable–and they will–such things as “white guilt” and its ugly offspring will evaporate. And even the multiculturalist inquisitors who dominate Sweden, England, France, the US, and many other places will find themselves lucky to find enough food to keep their bodies connected to their miserable souls. They will have destroyed themselves through their fealty and obeisance to The Tribe. Life will become, as Longfellow described it, “real” and “earnest.” And with the Socialist welfare state gone, the non-white populations of Europe will go back to where they came from–either volutarily or un-. You might be surprised at how quickly white liberalism and universalism evaporate, but evaporate they will. And sooner rather than later. The focus of life will return to First Things. Soon.
Those who have posted here seem to be overlooking (and I think they ARE aware of this) the fact that there is a huge, broad, deep wellspring of intense resentment in the breasts of white people towards the fools and poltroons who have turned the whole world into some sort of giagantic Sunday School room in which they themselves are not apostles but gods, and from which God has been rather rudely excluded. No matter. The truth remains true, and it will overcome the nonsense to which we have been uubjected these past forty-odd years. Social and economic conditions will see to that. Just because most white people do not say anything does not by any means mean that they don’t see and know what is and has been going on. When the current world system finally ceases to function–and it soon will–the wellspring of resentment to which I refer will manifest itself, and the silliness and foolishess that can prosper only in a comfortable world will vanish so fast your heads will spin.
Moving right along…
On those rare occasions on which I am confronted with some self-absorbed, self-righteous nitwit who is foolish enough to challenge my racial attitudes, I am invariably triumphant. Invariably.
For I have found–as I am certain y’all have–that these silly, silly people have one weapon only, and it is a nuclear weapon. They exercise “the nuclear option” right off the bat, and after that fails–and it always does–they are spent. They cannot go on.
Usually, it goes something like this: “Well, you’re not a Christian if that’s how you feel about [black folks]” (or whatever other protected species is the subject).
I NEVER argue. That is pointless. I merely shrug and say, “What would you know about Christianity OR about me?”
“Well I know that Christianity teaches [fill in the blank with something stupid and inaccurate].”
“Does it?”
Here, because I do not take the bait (by arguing or trying to reply to the implicit charge of heresy), they begin to become visibly uncertain of themselves. “Yes! You KNOW it does.”
“Do I?”
“Oh, stop trying to pretend you don’t know what I mean!”
“And what exactly is that?”
And so it goes, until in the end, the right-thinking accuser says the only thing he can say, “You just don’t like [fill in the blank--and where I live, it's "black people" or "Mexicans"]!”
“So what? What is your point, if any?”
“That you are a hypocrite and a racist!”
“What of it?”
And then, I win. Because nobody can press their silly points beyond the point at which I simply, quietly, nonchalantly make it clear that I don’t give a damn about their silly notions or about their (dis)approval. Sometimes I find that I have to go an extra step to explain things to the truly stupid, by saying–always calmly but dismissively, “I don’t require your approval. And I don’t owe you an explanation. You are stupid, and I don’t give a s**t about what you ‘feel’.” (Nobody ever says “think” nowadays; it’s always “feel.”)
My point is that I never argue, never defend, never raise my voice, and I never rise to the bait. Fightin’ wid de Tar Baby is profitless, you know. Instead, I merely adopt a dismissive tone of voice and facial expression and say point-blank that I don’t give a button or a fig for their stupid and false “morality,” and that I do NOT have to explain myself to ANYBODY. (Although I don’t say “a button or a fig” because vulgar lingo is suitable to the context, and besides, it’s the only thing stupid apostles of racial egalitarianism can comprehend. Besides, it’s satisfying.)
REmember, They can’t win if YOU don’t play.
Their days are numbered.
If y’all don’t know http://www.fredoneverything.net you should. He writes a lot about race. Visit the site. The titles of his essays make clear which ones are about race. You won’t agree with ever single syllable he writes, but with most of it you will. And the essays are short and usually funny. And this, Alice, is what the ordinary folk to whom you refer are reading–not TOO. So they ARE “out there.” And their day–our day–is now at hand. The world system is collapsing.
@ Jason Speaks;
You wrote above “…Our opponents are all too willing to argue about anything except their own anti-White bigotry.”
Yes, that hits the spot. How to deal with that?
We don’t let them take us off-topic: we make them stay on OUR topic, which is their anti-white (bigotry, or whatever).
The point isn’t to get in a discussion or argument with them, but to constantly and consistently make OBVIOUS that all of their “arguments” are basically anti-white.
If they try to “prove” you are “wrong”, just hit them again with the repeated statement that they are anti-white, based on what THEY are saying. Use their own anti-white words to hang them.
Someone else above claimed that the anti-white comment streams ban pro-whites. Yes, eventually, but we can still “hit them” for a while, then move on to the next target. This “work” isn’t done in order to prove anything or convert the die-hard anti-whites: we do it for the peanut gallery, the ones who already understand what’s going on, but are afraid to “come out of the closet”. We let them know it’s possible, and show them how it’s done.
One of the dumbest things a pro-white can do is go to a thread and try to “prove” that jewsblacksmexicansasians are “bad”. That crap don’t WORK. Stick to pointing out the anti-white nature of what they’re saying, and it DOES work. As the folks at http://www.resistingdefamation.org like to say, “Speak with a white voice, from a position of white-centricity”. That doesn’t require slurring the “other”, but just pointing out that the whole shebang is anti-white.
@ Mickey Meadows
You wrote:
Yes, a sort of collaboration that enables this space to both attack back at anti-white wordstreams, AND provides the ammo needed INSIDE our own TOO space.
While I do “work” with the team at Whitaker’s site, I’m not suggesting that people here should necessarily follow the “Mantra” idea, even though I’m a true-believer in the idea that a CONSISTENT TALKING POINT works way better than a group of people arguing about stuff. Bo Sears has some great ideas for “attackbacks” over at Resisting Defamation. And maybe there are other resources for “Talking Points” I’m unaware of at this time.
The main thing is to not go out and argue-discuss-etc. Deploying a consistent message across all spaces, in a variety of white voices, with the goal of “outting” anti-whites as what they are, and also HUMILIATING them for what they are ….
That’s what works.
As for what kind of talking points “work”, some basic instruction in the art of talking points and practical politics is available in the sound file at
http://www.whiterabbitradio.net/audio/FTWR-17.mp3
If anyone has any ideas that IMPROVE on the EFFECTIVENESS of the talking points suggested in this file, I and many others would love to hear about them! The techniques displayed in this file do work. They are effective, if not yet “perfect”. Why wait for “perfection”? Let’s just learn how this is done, and then …. go out and DO IT.
@Gregor:
Both the mantra and the idea of a consistent set of memes, are heavily in line with developments in the relevant sciences.
I think that anyone here who took badly to the idea, should consider the possibility they just took badly to the communication that took place on TOO about the idea.
It’s a really good idea, and can be improved greatly from within as well. I hope everyone here gets involved with it, particularly people with a strong psychological sense of what works and others who write/communicate well.
Just one point. Watch out for arguing facts or policies. Contacting vicious writers and speakers is not to correct their facts or their policy prescriptions, it is to punish them by holding up a mirror to their faces.
It is to label them as bigots or haters or supremacists, whatever works. A comment about Morris to his administrative superiors, for example, could let them know that he is a hater, a bigot, or a supremacist, and ask them to put him on academic probation with no salary until the academic senate can review his writings for accuracy and freedom from bias.
No need to explain it all, it’s the writer or speaker who needs to be personally attacked back.
There is a new article by William Ventvogel posted today December 22, 2011 on César Tort’s website, The West’s Darkest Hour.
The article is a short piece of White fiction about White revenge entitled, Love Turns to a New God, and is at the link below.
http://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/love-turns-to-a-new-god-white-fiction/
@Hyperborean:
Two things.
“Sub-humans from the third world” – that’s plain wrong. In defending Western man you degenerate the argument so as to isolate that defence. Angst is no substitute for the truth. I have a friend from the highlands of New Guinea and can assure you he is very intelligent as are many of those I’ve met from there. Neither yours nor Jared Diamond’s propositions are justified by a scientific outlook, of course with opposite motivations. But his serves his corrupt cause and yours doesn’t serve a far more noble cause.
Liberalism grew out of capitalism, not Christianity, though it found expression in Western Christian societies. Wall Street is the root of the problem, not Rome, which only helps.
@Alice Teller:
“As the meritocracy that rules us fails…”
With all due respect, it is not a meritocracy, it is a preferential treatment for the tribe cabal. They hire what they see in the mirror, irrespective of the person’s skill, ability, or experience. The only thing that matters is that the person is of the tribe, or at the minimum, is a useful idiot that thinks like the tribe wants him or her to think.
In Canada we have the example of the once exemplary Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC). Yes it is government owned, but for the most part it was reliable, had balanced reporting, and did not shy away from controversial issues. The trbe took over key positions. Now no-talent brain dead tribal members, in disproportionate numbers, spout the line hyped as “experts”. I now call it the JBC, and like everything else of which they take control, it turns to excrement.
Professor MacDonald has pointed out this phenomenon on many occassions.
The irony here, for those who continue to think in the left/right paradigm, is that unions (your “Left”) have attempted to remove favouritism from the workplaces to prevent the type of abuse that the tribe exercises so well, but are met with cries of “foul” from the “Right” for trying to do so.
Let’s stop pretending that “merit” is not subjective and political in nature. The tribe may talk as if it isn’t, but at the end of the day, if a tribe member is competing with us, the tribal members making the decision will go with one of their own.
@George: I agree. I’m not sure why WG’s post hasn’t been removed – it’s not in keeping with the tone of this site. It seems like the kind of thing TOO’s opponents would post to “prove” this is a bad site.
@Albion’s Seed:
While you seem to be cheerfully anticipating the ugly days into which our ruling elite are are leading us – I fear them. I share your belief that many folks are quietly re-evaluating, but I hold on to the dream that the sensible people who have been doing their best to escape the consequences of our current policies will see that this is no longer possible. I still hope for something closer to the American rather than French or Russian revolutions.
As you celebrate the season remember that for our opponents Christmas is huge party from which they are excluded. Make it a very merry one. I am honored to be included with such fine company.
@Mickey Meadows: @Albion’s Seed:
While you seem to be cheerfully anticipating the ugly days into which our ruling elite are are leading us – I fear them. I share your belief that many folks are quietly re-evaluating, but I hold on to the dream that the sensible people who have been doing their best to escape the consequences of our current policies will see that this is no longer possible. I still hope for something closer to the American rather than French or Russian revolutions.
As you celebrate the season remember that for our opponents Christmas is huge party from which they are excluded. Make it a very merry one. I am honored to be included with such fine company.
@Mickey Meadows: I’m sorry my last post was repeated to you. I am of an age where if I started chanting mantras and memes I would alarm my children and I dare not deconstruct anything. (What is a meme?) I urge you and Gregor to use your energies in whatever way you feel most effective. The important thing is for all of us, in our own way and within the circles we normally frequent to resist.
@Curmudgeon: I stand chastised. (Perhaps I should not attempt sarcasm in print.) You are certainly right. I think we should demand a meritocracy based on accomplishment rather than the right associations. Did you know that the tribe was the first group to institute accreditation based not on what you know but on whom you studied with? My own preference is to point out their obvious incompetence at serving the larger good.
@Jordan:
Here here! The biggest problem we have is the information monopoly, especially the government “schools”. The penalties are severe for telling the truth.
How many Whites even suspect this monopoly exists? How many Whites know they haven’t controlled the government for 98 years? How many know the destruction is deliberate? How many know about the joo destroyer?
@JA:
Constructive criticism is appreciated, I will be more careful with my language.
The Christianity I was taught in sunday school was essentially liberalism with a little mysticism thrown in. Liberalism is a value system, not an economic policy, which grew out of Enlightenment thinking in the 18th century. The Enlightenment was inspired by Christian values, it was very much a secularizing of those values.
Communism is a product of capitalism, not liberalism.
Perhaps, in the middle-ages Christianity taught something very different; I know what it teaches now is a disaster for our people.
@Jason Speaks: Makes you wonder at what point this nonsense will stop. I don’t see white realists gaining any traction until we sink further and further into the abyss. We and our children are going to endure an America that will look a lot like Brazil. Lots of poor with a liberal intellectual elite.
Being rich and skinny is the white man’s last great hope, if he is not inclined to be violent.
@Curmudgeon: It was pretty evident to me that Mrs. Teller used meritocracy in an ironic or sarcastic sense. (I hope that she will forgive me for responding for her, at least in part, especially after she herself has already responded; yet I did promise on another thread to henceforth be her preux chevalier, and it seems a bit oversoon to break my promise.).
I am prepared to grant that I may have an unreasoning prejudice against emoticons and a similar but less encompassing distaste for specialized-sense quotes (often aptly called sneer quotes), a prejudice perhaps not as widely shared as I would wish. But, my friend, must we really assume, especially here at TOO, that every more or less conventional term employed by one or more of us is meant in the conventional sense unless it is set off in neon light or Day-Glo paint? I sincerely hope not. There is always a place at the table for plainspokenness, and rightly so. But need we insist that what Waugh called “the learned, the oblique, the delicate” sup on scraps in the scullery?
Anyway, Merry Christmas, Curmudgeon—and I do mean that in the most conventional of senses!
@Pierre de Craon:
What a lovely Christmas gift – a gallant defense! Thank you, sir.
@Alice Teller: Thank you for the courtesy of a reply to my post. I chuckle to see that there has been some misunderstanding about your use of “meritocracy,” stemming from the disadvantage produced by the lack of vocal intonation and facial expressions and such things when we post these notes. For I rather think that the same thing has happened between you and me. I re-read what I posted (twice) but have to confess that I could not find anything that might have made you think (if you were using my mind to think, that is–and I am now winking and smiling!) that I was cheerful about the coming collapse. All I said was–or meant to say–that the collapse will wash away a lot of the stuff that at present disturbs all of us. I admit to believeing that that is a good and desirable thing, but I don’t feel cheerful about the collapse itself, if only because it will be very unpleasant for ME. But so is dental work. That doesn’t make dental work a bad thing though.
Also, revolutions, French, American, or otherwise, have not enetered my head. I am thinking of the coming collapse as a wave that washes sand castles away from a beach. I suppose it might be possible to say, “He’s making a list and checking it twice; Gonna find out who’s naughty or nice; Robespierre is comin’ to town!” But that is not what I had in mind. Revolution? Cheerfulness?
Anyway, I apologize for my shortcomings. I didn’t understand the second part of your note to me, either, I’m afraid. But let’s drop it. It’ll keep. Have a pleasant evening and a Merry Christmas. Kind regards.
@Pierre de Craon: Excellent choice of the word “oversoon”, I hope you do not mind if I use it myself!
Vous êtes un gentleman Chrétienne.
@Pierre de Craon:
A side note. I live in an area with ‘enough’ jews to cause the usual problems. (but all it takes is one who, following the ADL’s anti-Christmas info packet, makes vague complaints about being ‘uncomfortable’ about a Christmas tree)…
Anyway, I saw an older, fragile black woman conservatively dressed, and with a sort of old world politeness one just doesn’t see anymore.
She wished someone a “merry Christmas’ and a fat, obnoxious looking (you know the inbred evil look i am talking about – the permanent sneer and inborn paranoia is someone might notice how dishonest they actually are) jewish male in his late 30s or 40s said stuck his big fat ugly face near her and said “it’s also HANUKKAH!”
I know not ‘everyone’ Jewish is like this.. I know there are plenty of Jews who are repulsed by this obnoxious behavior.. but I thought to myself who but this race can produce such selfish, hateful people. I have never seen or heard any other peoples with such black hearts. Yes other races – and ours do cruel inhumane things, but their very nature seems to be cruelty
What other race would treat an old fragile woman this way who is simply giving giving good wishes? What sort of dark souls do they have?
@Alice Teller: Forgot this. You asked Mickey Meadows, “What is a meme?” Don’t know whether you meant that literally, but I have recently learned a computer trick that can be used to answer such questions as the one you pose, and like a new convert to something-or-other, I am eager to tell everybody “and his sisters and his cousins and his aunts” what I know. If you you hold down the left-hand button on your mouse and drag the cursor over the word “meme” to highlight it in a really pretty cobalt blue, you can then right-click, and you will get a window that offers you several nifty choices for this ‘n’ that. One of those nifty choices will say something like “Seartch with Bing.” Left-click on that and hey! presto! you will be transported as if by one of Mr Scrooge’s nocturnal visitors to a definition (actually about a zillion definitions) of “meme.” I know because only last night I used this thrilling procedure to find out for myself what “meme” means. I found the definition disappointing, so to assuage my disappointment, I have decided to pronounce it as a two-syllable word just to sort of jazz it up a bit. I invite you to join me in this important undertaking. You can also use this procedure to “Translate with Google,” and get things like “All your money are belong to me.” It’s good for hours of fun.
@mark: Well, Mark that was a cheerful tale for the Yuletide. While I have no doubt that it expresses the fantasy of some men, I confess to being alarmed by the lack of hope so many of our young men and this story express. Even today, the way to a good woman’s heart is to be a good man. Women who cannot see this are not worth bothering about much less seeking revenge on. Stand tall, remember who and what you are. Your people have ruled the world. We were war weary and just wanted a little break from running everything. Since we had so much abundance, we gave the poor, pathetic souls who could not hope to keep up with us a chance. Now we must clean up the results. We are just slow to admit to ourselves how foolish we were. Be of good cheer. This will not last. Merry Christmas!
reggie, the way I see it its ‘the left vs civiliation’
the left is zionist, atheist etc
@Gregor: Disagree. Jews must be specifically called out and held accountable for their anti-White program. Most other anti-Whites take that position to ingratriate themselves with the Jews.
Have you written of the Rosenbergs and their offspring?
Do you know what the son[s] are up to?
funding Mumias kid via their charity
with the help of ed asner,pete seeger and angela davis
Tom…’Guttenberg who invented moveable type and modern printing’
I read the Chinese invented MT? yes? no?
@Doug:
Doug, it’s all a matter of timing. You are right on both counts, but timing is everything, and it’s not yet time to do the first thing you suggest. We must first put the overall anti-white narrative on very shaky ground, and make it appear both silly and laughable to be an anti-white, whether jewish or not.
Only when there is a groundswell of ridicule at the people who follow the jews in the anti-white escapades, only then can naming the source of the anti-white narrative be effective. But by that time, with the internet, everyone will know anyway. Many already do, even if they’re unwilling to be public about it.
We help them lose their fear of publicly ridiculing all aspects of the anti-white narrative. They’ll figure out “whodunnit” on their own.
@90404:
The “Chinese” could never have invented moveable type. Why?
There is no alphabet in Chinese which could be translated into “type” in the sense an alphabetic language can.
The Chinese use ideographs, and they did “invent” a way to use independent carved wooden blocks for each ideograph, and put them in a frame for being printed. Very different from what Westerners think of as “type”, though.
See Marshall McCluhan for more information on how these two very different modes of “graphy” affect consciousness in the peoples who use them. Alphabets enable visual space in a way that ideographs do not. Both “work”, but change the nature of the space in which consciousness resides.
I heard Niall Ferguson, who recently wrote Civilization The West and the Rest, interviewed on the radio about the reasons for the dominance of the West. He refers to 6 “killer apps” (heh heh). He tripped all over himself saying that racial differences between whites and others had nothing to do with the ascent of the West.
In this connection, here is a bit about Niall F. from wikipedia:
“Published in 2011, Civilization: The West and the Rest examines what Ferguson calls the most “interesting question” of our day: “Why, beginning around 1500, did a few small polities on the western end of the Eurasian landmass come to dominate the rest of the world?” He attributes this divergence to the West’s development of six “killer apps” largely missing elsewhere in the world – “competition, science, democracy, medicine, consumerism and the work ethic”. [2] A related documentary Civilization: Is the West History? was broadcast as a six part series on Channel 4 in March and April of 2011.[78] After Pankaj Mishra unfavourably reviewed Civilisation in the London Review of Books, comparing Ferguson’s arguments with the American white supremacist writer Theodore Lothrop Stoddard, the author accused Mishra of having penned “highly offensive and defamatory allegation.” Ferguson later threatened litigation against the London Review of Books, prompting Catherine Bennett in The Guardian to describe Ferguson’s response as “hysterical” and damaging to his own reputation.”
@Vlad Writes: The ruling elite of Brazil, with the other Latin American nations – doesn’t actively hate those at the bottom of the power hierarchy. America’s future is likely to be shaped by this vital difference.
Merry Christmas to all!
@Barkingmad: Nice to know about this. Could you provide some links to the “action” regarding these broadcasts? Some of us would like to “go there” and hit the anti-white narrative with a withering attack. We can’t do that without links. You (and others who reference anti-white “stuff”) could be very helpful just by providing links for the “activists” among us … then we can go do what needs to be done.
@Barkingmad: It is interesting to watch the beast in action. If you are serious about finding a way to fight back then go to Ron Paul’s defense. Since he is winning in Iowa, all the knives are at. It is a lesson just to watch. The good news is ordinary people are fighting back. It doesn’t matter if you agree with him or not. He is a courageous, white man standing up for his country, our constitution, and our genuine traditions. He is under assault because he dares to
disagree with the mandatory position on Israel.
Be wise, give no ammunition to our enemies, tell your friends. The tide is changing and pointing out the excesses of the Jewish media has become stylish in many quarters.
@Hyperborean:
Anyone who can react like you have and so quickly has worthy qualities.
If Liberalism was just Christian in its origins, why didn’t it arise earlier? The answer to that is that the social and material means weren’t there for it to grow to such an extent as to undermine the might of French Absolutism and a lot more.
The Enlightenment of the C18th arose in the wake of the English Capitalist Revolution of the C17th, the birth of capitalism born on the bones of the English, Irish, later Scots, peasantry who were dispossessed in the centuries long process leading up to it and well beyond. That revolution produced the – parliamentary – rule of an upstart class which produced commodities – initially on from those lands freed up in the process above – and on a far grander scale than in any hitherto period.
Liberalism had the form of universal equality of opportunity but its essence was the freeing up of everything, so as to make way for the new bourgeois order.
The Neo-Liberalism of today, the source of our dilemma, is just a continuation of that “free movement of everything, anywhere”. It’s that which is destroying all that is good in the West. It is in its essence driven by “Wall Street” which is the real source of the Jewish role in the process, and not by the historically more “liberal” Protestants nor by Rome, who only lubricate the process.
@Gregor: Excellent advice. The Daily caller is running video of Joe Scarboroh accusing Ron Paul followers of a ‘stain of anti-semitism’ no proof, just the charge suffices.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/22/scarborough-there-is-always-a-strain-of-anti-semitism-at-ron-paul-events-video/
@90404: Yes, of course they did, though it was probably also developed independently in Europe, albeit a bit later. The point, as I have written on several earlier threads, is that movable type per se is no big deal. What Gutenberg, his moneyed partners, and his staff in Mainz succeeded in developing was mechanized movable type, and as the author of the article about him in the Catholic Encyclopedia (1910; now online) wrote, “The invention of Gutenberg should be classed with the greatest events in the history of the world. It caused a revolution in the development of culture, equalled by hardly any other incident in the Christian Era.” In other words, mechanized movable type was a very big deal indeed.
@me: The goblin you describe was merely giving the poor woman an up-close-and-personal definition of tolerance, as he and his cousins in all branches of the Establishment mean the word to be understood. I would not, of course, wish that woman’s experience on anyone I had even the tiniest concern or affection for, but we oughtn’t lose sight of the fact that the goblin’s view of normative conduct—at least for society’s privileged few—is a lot closer to full-scale reification than those lucky enough to live in areas freer than yours and mine of Jewish domination might think. In that sense alone, his actions are a salutary reminder, and he is to be thanked for them.
It hardly needs saying that the goblin and everyone like him needs to be fought, fought with all our might. Yet he and his ilk need to be prayed for, too, especially in this season commemorating the birth of the Redeemer whom the goblin and his people rejected en masse. Remember Matthew 5:43 et seq., a passage that incorporates the toughest talk in the entire New Testament.
Jared Diamond is very flexible in his scholarship indeed. Most Jews aren’t interested in the truth, just in the banalities s-e-l-l-i-n-g at too high a price!
Race and History, Part 1:
The Zionist Racism of Anti-Racist Jared Diamond
Paul Grubach
http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2011/volume_3/number_3/race_and_history_part_1.php
“Diamond opposes classifying human populations into races—except of course as to Jews and non-Jews. He gave his tacit assent to the proposed Israeli-Zionist policy of defining and classifying Jews and non-Jews on the basis of whether or not they possess “Jewish genes.” Indeed, notice what Diamond is saying: there are legitimate grounds for investigating how Jews differ genetically from non-Jews. The Israelis need to know who carries “Jewish genes” so as to determine who will be allowed to settle in the Zionist state.
In his 1994 Discover article he says that the classification of humans into races based upon their biological makeup is “destined to follow the Flat Earth into oblivion.”22 Yet, in his 1993 Natural History article he told us that the classification of Jews and non-Jews on the basis of genetic makeup has a bright future in Israel, as it may be used to differentiate between Jews and Gentiles. In the 2005 edition of Guns, Germs, and Steel, he tells us that dividing up peoples of the earth on the basis of race, such as “blacks” and “whites,” is arbitrary and misleading. Strangely enough, a few sentences later he writes that “recognizing these major [racial] groups is still so useful for understanding history.”23
@fender:
one little problem sweetheart. When we want to fight and kill no one can stop us. The wrath of the awakened saxon.
but if the neopagans /nordicists/ morons would like to try…
the problem now is the ‘elite’ are the ‘worst gentiles’ = promote the worst, most sociopath gentiles – that’s what a hostile elite does.
Gregor, here are a couple of links regarding Niall Ferguson. I heard only the radio interview; I can’t stand that gyppo-uky-greek Strombolopoulos.
http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/books/niall-ferguson-on-the-impending-collapse-of-the-west.html
That interview was pretty long, but the clip here makes sure we get the most important message.
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2011/12/07/niall-ferguson-the-west-and-the-rest/
The above is a radio interview.
@Pierre de Craon: Sir, your words give hope, despite illustrating how dire the situation is!
Merry Christmas, Pierre de Craon
@me:
Merry Christmas to you, too, me. Getting to know you through your comments has been one of the highlights of 2011 for me. I look forward to more of the same in 2012.
@Pierre de Craon:
The rain, it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fellow;
But mostly on the just
Because the unjust steals
The just’s umbrella.
@Gregor:
This is such a good post. It’s going to help me in my own bugstering.
I would like to see bugstering become the new White hobby.
@Bo:
“A comment about Morris to his administrative superiors, for example, could let them know that he is a hater, a bigot, or a supremacist, and ask them to put him on academic probation with no salary until the academic senate can review his writings for accuracy and freedom from bias.”
What a great idea! And I think terms like ” hater, a bigot, or a supremacist” are good ones for that kind of action!
For most discussions in person or on websites, I think it’s good to use the single term, “Anti-White,” drumming that word and the meaning it carries into every mind that’s exposed to it, just exactly as has been done with the r-word by our anti-White enemies.
(Begging the pardon of those who dislike seeing the following over and over, but I feel I must):
White GeNOcide!
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White!
On Cities, Women, and White Survival
Another essay by William Ventvogel has been posted to César Tort’s website, The West’s Darkest Hour.
It is entitled, On Cities, Women, and White Survival. Ventvogel surveys the race-mixing, feminism and the problems it has caused—like the relationship problems that have developed between men and women, the open faggotry, the Jew and his unwholesome presence.
This essay was first published in 2004.
You can read it at the link below.
http://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/12/23/from-the-corruption-of-women-all-evils-follow/
Gregor’s idea was that right below articles like this review of Morris’ book a little “pod” of links be provided to MSM sites where the topic is also being discussed, so that OO posters with a simple click could go there and leave a post.
Bo’s idea I just responded to gives me a similar thought: following Gregor’s suggested pod of links, how about providing another space for anyone who wishes to post info about how to contact the superiors and other interested parties of the anti-White whose support of White Genocide is being discussed?
Perhaps that section of the page could be entitled “Interested parties to be notified.”
White GeNOcide!
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White!
@Albion’s Seed: You read my mind! Now I have to get back to work on the New Beatitudes. Merry Christmas, Seed of Albion.
@Alice Teller: Thanks Alice!
I just added a comment at the link, the following:
“In your OPINION there’s “anti-semitism” in Ron Paul events.
You just say that because they are gentiles.
“Anti-semitic” is just a label used to shut up any gentile that has an opinion a jew doesn’t like.”
@Barkingmad:
Thanks for the links. The first one was useless, because commenting was disabled. What we need are links where we can attack via the comment-stream.
The second one was attacked. I wasn’t even interested in watching the video. I don’t go to places like this to learn about how much they hate us, I go their to attack them.
I’ve also placed that link in another place where there will be a series of attacks forthcoming.
I guess I’m suggesting that EVERYONE here should go beyond INFORMING us of anti-white hatred at this place or that … and post links with open comment-streams, so we can go DO something there. We already KNOW about the anti-white hatred, so we don’t need to know more. We do need the resources (links and talking points) to attack them back. Thanks!
@me:
Yes, the Anglo Saxons do indeed love fighting. They prove it every day with their ongoing war against their fellow Whites.
The ADL and several Jewish groups have slammed Rep. Allen West (R-FL) for saying: “If Joesph Goebbels was around, he would be very proud of the Democratic Party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine. Let’s be honest, you know, some of the people in the media are complicit with this an enabling them to get the type of message out“.
Abe Foxman, national director ADL, in a letter to Rep. Allen West has demanded him to apologies for his words before they cause further harm. “It’s high time to excise analogies to Nazi and Hitler from the political vocabulary. It doesn’t serve us as Americans, and cheapen our political discourse,” wrote Foxman of ‘double standards’.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/goebbels-analogy-outrages-jewish-groups/
@me: Sad thing is, that old black lady will blame whites for what a jew did to her!
@fender: Ultimately, the Anglo-Saxons must be redeemed.
This probably isn’t going to win me any friends here, but in my own life, Anglo-Saxons have, on numerous occasions, passed me over for less qualified minorities or Jews.
In fact, despite the fact that I am intellectually molded by Anglo-Saxon values (to the point that people from my own ethnic group find my thinking foreign), have blue eyes, and fairly light skin, Anglo-Saxons always perceive me as very alien and foreign. They seem to feel more comfortable around blacks, Jews, or even Asians.
@Harumphty_Dumpty:
Crying “anti-white, anti-white,…” will get you nowhere, because their defense is a simple as foreseeable:
“we are anti-nobody, we are pro-humanity, the true defenders of mankind, whites included …”
@Vlad Writes: I’d say it’s a fifty-fifty chance you’re on the money, Vlad. That’s a sad enough state of affairs in and of itself, of course. The plus side of me’s tale, however, is that whatever that woman thinks, she isn’t the one who is doing us fundamental harm, at least not in the context of the confrontation she did nothing to provoke.
Were we ever to rid ourselves of the Christophobes’ rule, with its concomitant shutdown of the immigration invasion, dealing with black and Hispanic criminals—and with what seems to be the inherent criminality (or at least a strong predisposition to crime) of a substantial segment of their population—will, I believe, seem like child’s play by comparison. If I am correct, that leaves us with some small grounds for hope. The stress is on small, alas.
Thank you, Vlad, for your very kind words above. Feel free to use “oversoon” without fear of hearing from my Sicilian friends in the morning (or at any time in the New Year for that matter).
@Gregor: You are doing good work. Perhaps you could draw up a list of guides that the editors might post a link too. We must also remember that we will be having newcomers joining us all the time. When you first begin to wake up, you don’t always see the whole problem right away. I think the site is wise to offer something for everyone.
It would also be great if we could come up with a few questions that are never asked in public. Like ‘Why is okay to challenge the validity of the Iowa caucus because the state is too white, but forbidden to say that Washington is too Jewish? ” There are too many things in this country that we have been blinded too. You are making an important contribution to the effort. Stay with it.
Merry Christmas!
This ninny teaches at STANFORD?
How many blacks and browns teach there?
How many get math / physics PHDs?
and:
‘Curmudgeon: I stand chastised. (Perhaps I should not attempt sarcasm in print.) You are certainly right. I think we should demand a meritocracy based on accomplishment rather than the right associations. Did you know that the tribe was the first group to institute accreditation based not on what you know but on whom you studied with’
Ruth Seymore and her ilk ruined a colege radio station that now disseminates crap….KCRW / Santa Monica
@me:
“You forgot to mention that the scientific method is the result of Christian thought ( a created rather than chaotic universe, and therefore one that can be discovered- which is precisely what kepler and newton (devout christians) were seeking”
I think your a little quick to equate the scientific method with Christian religious thinking.
The Pagan Greeks and Romans developed a technological civilization that far exceeded anything in the Christian middle ages. As did the ancient Egyptians, Persian, and Hindus.
The scientific method emerged during the Italian Renaissance of the 15th and 16th century. The renaissance was inspired by a rediscovery of classical Roman/Greek(Pagan) civilization. It was in this intellectual climate that the scientific method was born.
Western thinking and western culture are a product of race, of the instinctive Aryan love of beauty and nobility. Christianity has made contributions to that culture, but I see no reason why that culture couldn’t have developed under a very different religion.
Part of my opposition to Christianity comes from the fact that i’ve never been able to identify with it. Even as a child it seemed very strange, very alien, very Jewish. In contrast i’ve always been instinctively drawn to Norse mythology and European folklore.
I don’t have hateful bigoted views towards the religion, I just don’t see how its relevant to the modern world in its current form (It seems we’ve outgrown the metaphysical aspects of it). Perhaps you can enlighten me?
I’ve found Julian Lees videos on the Veddas and Christianity quite interesting. Perhaps this would be a good direction to move in.
@Hyperborean: Classical civilization was never lost. It was conquered by peoples (Germans, Slavs, Arabs, Turks,) who were ignorant of it.
@JA:
It appears your better informed than I am.
Nietzsche was the catalyst that led to the breakdown of my Marxist worldview; I doubt whether traditional Christianity can be fully rehabilitated in my mind.
I certainly agree that the Money Power is the root of the problem, i’m pretty skeptical that will find salvation in Rome
@sylvie:
But Sylvie, nobody is claiming they are “pro-humanity” and “defenders of mankind” and floods Japan with tens of millions of non-Japanese and blends the Japanese out of existence.
Nobody is claiming they are “pro-humanity” and “defenders of mankind” and floods Zimbabwe with tens of millions of non-Blacks and blends the Zimbabwean Blacks out of existence.
These “pro-humanity” babblers are anti-white because they insist on flooding ALL white countries and ONLY white countries with non-Whites, and blending White people out of existence: a Genocide they won’t EVER consider applying to non-White countries.
Their mouths yap “pro-humanity”, their actions scream anti-White!
@Athanasius:
The conquering of Rome was necessary. The Romans had become too corrupt, too complacent, too racially mixed to produce any more great people. They had lost all sense of Romanness. The same thing is happening all across the west. There comes a point when a people become so appolonian in their ways- contemplative, peaceful, mechanistic- that they lose their ability to fight and defend themselves through pure instinct.
@fender: That’s fine, but don’t blame Ambrose that people forgot how to build aqueducts, it was Odoacer’s fault. The above mentioned, despite their differing genetic gifts, all lived in a primitive state–their contact with the Greeks and Romans was bound to cause regression among the latter eventually.
Notice how there was an initial flourishing of civilization when the Germans, Slavs, Arabs, Turks, and Mongols conquered a superior civilization. But in all five cases, once the initial synthesis was over, there was great stagnation. You can’t blame Christianity–the late Abbasid, Yuan, and Ottoman periods were even “darker” ages than Merovingian France/Germany, Visigothic Spain, Lombard Italy, Arpad Hungary, or Nemanjid Serbia. The difference is that all of those states (save the poor Serbs) were setting the stage for something much greater–something intrinsic that would be much greater.
@knowthyenemy:
‘Whites are the only race willing to celebrate diversity as they become minorities in their own countries. This surely represents a new kind of mental sickness.’
Prof. MacDonald has actually written a little about this, knowthyenemy, in his tome ‘White Ethnocentrism and Psychology’ *This is a pdf ( http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/WhiteEthnocentrism.pdf )
Here is the most helpful quote from it, that offers a healing solution (in bold):
‘After all, the guilt feelings ultimately result from absolutely normal attitudes of ethnic identity and interests that
have been delegitimized as a result of the erection of the culture of critique in the West. It should be therapeutic to understand that this culture was instituted by people who typically retained a strong sense of their own ethnic identity
and interests. And it should help assuage guilt feelings if we understand that this culture is now maintained by people seeking material advantages and psychological approval at the expense of their own ethnic interests. The guilt
feelings are nothing more than the end result of ethnic warfare, pursued at the level of ideology and culture instead of on the battlefi eld. Getting rid of guilt and shame, however, is certainly not an easy process. Psychotherapy for white people begins with an explicit understanding of the
issues that allows us to act in our interests, even if we can’t entirely control the negative feelings engendered by those actions.
Is Jared Diamond a colonial master over Whites? Are Jews genetically programmed to manipulate and to cleverly hide their manipulations? Do the N. Y. Times, Google, Wikipedia, Facebook and Twitter create a Jew-distorted reality? A few White men have lost their jobs for stating the truth that African Americans are faster sprinters than European Americans. The true history of the world and the facts of human biodiversity are offensive to black Africans because the truth is that blacks are violent, oversexed, impulsive, mentally inferior to Europeans and Asians and incapable of forming a stable government. Amsterdam Jews financed slaveship owners in Portugal and Britain, the ship owners’ operations killed White sailors and black Africans, and the Jews counted the money. Jews obscure the true history of the world because Jews are clever parasites, manipulators and deceivers of the world. Is the best hope for WNs to create a million virulent White racists with an IQ of 140? Several western European countries have made it a crime to wound the feelings of any ethnic group (except Whites). What is morality? William Pierce wrote When we raided Indian villages we killed everybody, young and old, male and female, just like they did when they raided a White settlement. To our ancestors, the choice was: get rid of the Indians, or give up and go back to Europe.
http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs0202b.html What Is Moral?
Merry White Racistmas to all WNs.
You can read “Why the West Rules” for the price this book rightly deserves here.
Merry Christmas to you!
@Less IQ than a Jew: @Less IQ than a Jew:
Pierce was undoubtly an intelligent man who had a penetrating understanding of all problems concerning WN,especially the JQ.Unfortunately he was also a man of very violent fantasies, as his two novels The Turner Diaries and Hunter testify.Dreaming of a “Day of the Rope” when race traitors would hang from lamp posts is not exactly appealing to all types of people,especially women.Yet these fantasies were by no means exceptional for him.There is hardly any of his American Dissident Voices in which he does not mention that certain people should be hanged.I remember how he once said the only reason he supported the Arabs was that they were anti-Israel but that he didn’t like them at all and wouldn’t mind throwing atom bombs on them for “target practice”.
As for the “necessity” of killing all Indians,including women and children,in order to conquer the continent,there were only one or two million of them and they could easily be resettled in a smaller territory,given independence and be left alone.But of course people like Pierce enjoy fantasies of genocide and thus conjure up all kinds of spurious “necessities”.
For WN to be successful and acceptable only intelligence is not enough,also a reasonable and humane morality has to be developed.Pierce failed in this respect.He also failed in developing a WN religion of his own.His “Cosmotheism” is strikingly incomplete,perhaps not surprisingly so since he himself didn’t believe in anything metaphysical.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
“But of course people like Pierce enjoy fantasies of genocide and thus conjure up all kinds of spurious necessities”.
I think your oversimplifying Pierce’s message a bit.
His talk of genocide wasn’t so much a fantasy as it was an understanding of the reality of nature. Human history is one of competing tribes conquering and replacing each other, genocide has always accompanied this process. Conflict and struggle are inescapable realities of life. Modern Europeans have fooled themselves into believing they are no longer subject to these laws.
To quote Pierce ”
“When one has a world overcrowded with races competing for a limited living area and limited resources, there will be genocide. The feminine altruists cannot face that hard fact, and their activities simply guarantee a bloodier and more destructive genocide in the end. The masculine altruists, on the other hand, should be capable of imposing a necessary discipline in order to preserve the health of a beleaguered planet and permit its most valuable life forms to continue developing, instead of being dragged down by the least valuable. But whenever I say this I can hear the softheaded altruists screaming that I am advocating genocide, and oh, isn’t that awful. But as a matter of fact, it is their policies which are leading to a far more terrible genocide, with our race as the victim.”
This isn’t a fantasy, so much as a cold blooded scientific analysis of the present situation we find ourselves in. Pierce didn’t try and sugar coat his message to appeal to the female element of the population who’s instinct is to love and nurture everything they come in contact with. His message was very blunt and targeted at the male non-lemming element of the population. I may not agree with everything Pierce had to say, but I feel his personality added a lot to his sermons, and made them considerably more effective at grabbing my attention then a dry academic language would have been.
When we begin to target the masses it is important that we present our message in a language which the lemming element of the population will be receptive to, i’m not sure we’ve reached that point yet.
“Cosmotheism is strikingly incomplete,perhaps not surprisingly so since he himself didn’t believe in anything metaphysical.”
Perhaps, but it does address one of the critical problems confronting western man – nihilism. “We are in trouble for the same reason that an explorer in a harsh and trackless wilderness is in trouble when he loses his compass and cannot see the sky through the dense foliage. He no longer knows which way to go. That is our most fundamental problem — we do not know where we are going. We have no sense of direction. We have stumbled off the path.” That quote does a pretty good job summing up the spiritual crisis may Europeans are confronted with. Life has become a pointless exercise in gratifying the senses; it lacks any deep sense of meaning.
I know White Nationalism has certainly given me a new sense of direction in life, some of the ideas presented in Cosmotheism have contributed to that.
@Franklin Ryckaert: You wrote, “As for the “necessity” of killing all Indians,including women and children,in order to conquer the continent,there were only one or two million of them and they could easily be resettled in a smaller territory,given independence and be left alone.”
We did that, but instead of being commended, we are regularly accused of genocide and stealing the land!
We don’t even get thanks for giving them money via gambling in their casinos!
I’m grateful for the efforts of all the contributors to this article’s comments as well as for the original article by Brenton Sanderson on the thinking of Ian Morris in “Why the West Rules…For Now”, as well as to Professor MacDonald and his team here at TOO for providing the forum for these discussions.
Thanks to all of you!
I’m especially appreciative of those thoughtful comments on this thread from Alice Tellier and Gregor on this thread, although the wide variety of comments from a larger-than-normal commentor’s pool has forced me to think more about things I hadn’t thought important enough before in this war we’re beginning to wage against our ideological opponents…
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None of you contributing here are my opponents in anything other than style…despite our sometimes acrimonious exchanges. We’re all on the same page but maybe reading different paragraphs.
One last point: There was a lot of good in Jesus’ teachings.
Please let’s not forget or ignore his lessons at this symbolic time of our year…no matter what our professed religion is.
Jesus has a lot to teach all of us – even those of us suspicious of his motivations.
Merry Christmas to all!
@Hyperborean:
Pierce presents the problem in the form of a false dilemma : either “we” commit genocide on “them” or “they” commit genocide on “us”,and then urges us on not to be too soft-hearted and accept reality.
In reality such a choise is not necessary at all.Consider:
Since 1492 European man has settled in various other parts of the world and created his own countries there.All those parts of the world were before sparsely populated by primitive tribes mostly in the hunter-gatherer stage of development.Those tribes could easily be resettled in smaller territories, taught agriculture,given independence and then be left alone.That would require some violence (mostly in the form of skirmishes) but not all-out wars, let alone genocide.Following is a list of those parts of the world where the White man settled, with the estimated number of the previous indigenous populations:North America (1,5 million),South America West of the Andes region (1 million),Australia (250,000),New Zealand (250,000),Siberia (less than 500.000),all in all less than 3,5 million people have been dispossessed and could have been relocated with a minimum of violence.That it didn’t happen in such an “ideal” way has to be ascribed more to Western man’s agressiveness than to necessity,but no genocide was needed.
As for the present mass-immigration of non-Whites into White countries,that requires only a restrictive immigration policy, a change of law, no genocide. For those non-Whites already within White countries orderly return projects could be started,perhaps in combination with development projects in their countries of origin.Again no genocide needed.
Pierce’s advocacy of genocide is not based on any “realistic” necessity at all,rather it is based on his own violent character,which is – as I said – clearly visible in the violent fantasies of his two novels and his many ADV talks.
It is only natural that such a man could not develop a real alternative religion.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Correction:”South America West of the Andes region”,of course should be: South America East of the Andes region.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
I agree that the non-white peoples of the world should be treated as humanely as possible, but I don’t see a humane solution to our current crisis.
It is no longer 1492! The population of the 3.5 million aborigines and other 3rd world tribes which were resettled during European Colonializm has exploded to a level which vastly exceeds our planets carrying capacity. A substantial portion of that population is not self-sufficient and is dependent on the west to feed it. We are quickly approaching a point where Westerners will no longer be able to carry the 3rd world on their back. When we reach that point, we are likely to experience war and genocide on a level which has never before been witnessed on our planet. The non-culture bearing peoples of the world should never have been allowed to develop industrial societies. If Europeans could somehow rapidly regain their political power and develop a non-violent strategy for combating the coming ecological disaster – which will prevent the suffering of billions of innocent people, then I am certainly on board. I don’t see how thats possible at this point, neither did Pierce.
“What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and there is only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship’s axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides. Pentti Linkola”
Pierce wasn’t advocating running around the globe ethnically cleansing non-whites to prevent them from ethnically cleansing us. He was advocating severing the hands which are about to sink the West. He was advocating cutting the third-world lose and letting nature run its course, not ethnically cleansing these people through aggressive acts of genocide
It is apparent listening to any ADV broadcast the Pierce is filled with anger and frustration about what is happening to his people (I can identify with those feelings), he openly admits this on many occasions. I certainly never received the impression that he was a hate filled bigot, gleefully awaiting the day he could slaughter the nonwhite peoples of the world. To portray him in such a manner dis-honors a man who dedicated his life to our cause, and made significant contributions to that cause.
“The keynote of human history is not less and less violence; it is less and less honesty about violence.” – Savitri Devi
“Jared Diamond (on the left)” – I had a good laugh because of it. The comment was indeed necessary to distinguish between those two things.
Partly, the hypotheses of the Prof. Morris might be true. At least Morris, Diamond, and their black counterpart look pretty much equally ridiculous. The Woody Wood Pecker haircut of the first, the sufficient stupidity of the second, and the proud imbecility of the third.
Yes, they are all the same and yet different.
@Hyperborean:
You still base your argument on a false dilemma: either we die or we let them die.It is not a matter of those who survive on a ship and those who drown in the ocean,rather it is a matter of those who survive on a luxe ship and those who survive on a poor ship.In reality it is about a restrictive immigration policy: let only Whites immigrate into White countries. For non-Whites that doesn’t mean death by starvation,at most it means a continuation of their poverty as they experienced for thousands of years (and survived).Neither is it true that the Third World only survives on help from the First World (your basic mistake,we spend in reality very little on help),they muddle through as they have done for ages.More development for the Third World (including industrialization) means more wealth and more education and this is always followed by a lower birth rate.This is already happening in countries like Turkey and Iran, among Palestinians and among the second generation Arab immigrants in Europe.Only Black Africa will know a significant increase in population in the near future without an increase of wealth.But that could be dealt with with a forced development plan combined with a forced birth control plan (sterilization after the second child).By no means would the allowance of a mass immigration of Africans into White countries solve their problems.
The main problem is not non-Whites,the main problem is liberal Whites (and Jews).They should be the target of our anger.
@Bear: Thank you for your on the ground testimonial.
One of the more ironical situations is that of Niall Ferguson who like Ian Morris has written and narrated much on the dominance of western civilisation while excruciatinly avoiding or vehmantly denying any aspects of human intellectual biodiversity. (often by attacking those of us who do not ignore these factors).
Fergusson, has nevetheless been accused of being a racist by the Indian journalist and travel writer Pankaj Mishra and has been directly compared to “Lothard Stoddard” who was author of the dystopic “Rising tide of Color”. Fergusson can’t help (quite incorrectly) of accusing Stoddard of being a “notorious nazi sympathiser”
Fergussons squirming denial appears in the 17 December version of “The Spectator” (Australian editon).
I must admit to schadenfreude at Fergussons deserved predicament and I delight in this situation illustrating the reality the no amount of cringing will spare even liberal-left boyfriend of Ayaan Hirsi Ali from ever finer accusations of racism.
It seems his crime was likely only one of cultural insensitivity and ethnocentricism as defined by the touchy hindi ego who are rather awed and resentfull of the Raj’s accomplishments.
Anyone who has been to India will appreciate that though they have many Intellects they also have a great deal of mind numbing stupdity whose starkness is matched only by the number of dirty toilets in the country. I rather fear that immigration patterns into the west will create a spread of dysgenisis that will create an Indian type of ‘bell curve’ in the west.
@arthurdecco:
Having had a little more time to digest Africa I can say I’ve come up with some negative impressions. The tendancy of Whites to be cosseted such that they are only exposed to elite blacks and insulated from negative experiences is there. However eventually one comes across dissonant experiences; a seeming resentment and coldness in interactions that other White expats commented towards me and that I also began to notice.
It’s rather moronic as most of us are there for a few months and aren’t going to exploit their country, we do specialist technical work (gas turbines, plant control systems) but the unpleasantness is so common (but only by some) some refuse to come back. There is also the heavy handed behaviour of officials at airports in regards to travel documentation (angling for bribes). If my own country of Australia had made life so uncomfortable for buisiness visitors our GDP would also be down (though nowhere as pathetic as Africa). I also notice the internalised self censorship of Sth African Whites.
There is little evidence of low intelligence in terms of Language and I suspect that it is as the IQ tests suggest that visuo spatial areas are not as evolved. The clerk at the hotel or airport who checks you in shows no lack of competance.
Amazing is the spread of HIV to about 1/3rd of the fertile population which through application of life subsidised (by the US or Sth African) drugs has normalised HIV infection. The impluslve behaviour that lead to this is unfathomable to a westerner where fornication is something associated with young people experimenting with a girl friend or boy friend. One seldom sees anyone over 40 (hence of dirth of experienced people). A noticeable thing is the tendancy of Africans to groom themselves; Whites have up to 50 times the income but it is we who are casually dressed.
You will find Africans of intelligence and goodwill. You will also find the opposit and you will also find that many people are angling to con you for a favour or money. Despite India’s poverty the a fear of violence that underlies things one does in Africa.
It is nevertheless very possible for someone to ignore racial differences as a factor in differences in economic performance as in normal interactions it is not apparent.