Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, wrote an editorial saying Israel should consider assassinating Barack Obama. He wasn’t necessarily saying that they should assassinate Obama. Only that it should be one option on the table.
Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):
Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.
Notice how confident he is that our “strategic ally” has already discussed assassinating Obama. And, no, he hasn’t been arrested, in case you’re wondering. But the FBI is investigating.
The article has brought down scathing rebuke from the organized Jewish community, including the ADL’s Abe Foxman, and Adler has apologized. But there is some historical precedent for such a strategy. As reported by JTA, Harry Truman’s daughter, Margaret Truman Daniel, claimed in her 1972 biography of Truman that letter bombs were sent in 1947 by the terrorist Stern Group intended for the president. The same allegation was made in a 1949 book by a White House staffer in charge of reading the mail. The leader of the Stern Group denied it, pointing out that there was no motive, since Truman was more sympathetic to Zionism than FDR. However, Truman was certainly not a staunch Zionist in 1947, although he did ultimately capitulate to Jewish pressure (and money) when he recognized Israel over the strong objections of the military and foreign policy establishment. In any case, it’s clear that the Stern Group did use this tactic:
Yalin-Mor [head of the Stern Group] … readily acknowledged that the Sternists resorted to letter bombs but insisted that they were sent only to British leaders during the waning years of the Palestine Mandate and not to any other nationals. He said there was nothing to be gained from driving other sympathetic nations into the arms of the British.
It’s quite clear that from the beginning Zionism has been characterized by ruthless pursuit of its goals, particularly by the ultra-nationalists who are now in power and are set to dominate Israeli politics in the future. After all, the current Likud-dominated government of Israel is the direct descendant of the Stern Group and its ilk who were inspired by Jewish racial nationalist Vladimir Jabotinsky. These are the groups that carried out the bombing of the King David Hotel and the Deir Yassin massacre. Their descendants are the force behind current Israeli policies of apartheid, ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, and the crusade for war with Iran.
It’s not surprising that Adler’s letter would be condemned by today’s Jewish establishment, but one suspects a bit of hypocrisy. In the realm of ethnic politics, the only criterion is what works, and I am quite certain that Abe Foxman understands that.
Facing the Future as a Minority
Was the Immigration Act of 1924 Illiberal?
The whole thing might very well be a concerted ruse to deliver a veiled threat.
Let one of your group threaten with murder, then let the rest of the group vehemently condemn it, but in the mean time the threat has been delivered.
With all his faults Obama is at present perhaps the best thing that could happen to the US and the world as he seems NOT to be intent on a war with Iran.
The Jews are getting desperate, hence their increasingly erratic behaviour.
Victor Ostrovsky, in his book ‘The Other Side of Deception’ Israel planned the assassination of George H.W. Bush:
“Since the Mossad had all the security arrangements in hand, it would not be a problem bringing the killers as close as they wanted to President Bush and then staging his assassination. In the ensuing confusion, the Mossad people would kill the ‘perpetrators,’ scoring yet another victory for the Mossad. With the assassins dead, it would be difficult to discover where the ‘security breach’ had been, except that several countries involved in the conference, such as Syria, were regarded as countries that assisted terrorists.”
If this isn’t one of the clearest examples of the dubious diaspora Jewish loyalty to their state of residence then I have no idea what is. Let’s face it, the question “how loyal are the Jews?” has been circulating in Western states for over one thousand years. The most powerful aspect of this story was, for me, not the extent of Jewish loyalty to Israel, but rather Jewish disloyalty to their host states. Adler obviously feels that the American president is not his president, that America is not his country. He should be viewed and treated as a hostile enemy alien, loyal to a foreign country, whose interests he puts above a nation which treats him as fairly as one could ask, and which holds him equal before the law. It is the same reeking betrayal which befell the British, who were solicited for Zionist support from their ‘loyal’ Jews until the Stern terrorists struck and British Jewry turned on their benevolent saviours. Their bleatings about being loyal to the Empire were swiftly forgotten. Historiography has failed ever since to examine the aftermath of the bombing of the King David in light of what it truly was – a stab in the British back.
It is no secret that Israel has (arguably) the best intelligence systems on the planet. The Mossad has been involved in just about every operation that benefits Israel. In itself, that is not a bad thing. However, the undue influence that Israel has on MY country’s foreign affairs is troubling. It is no secret that AIPAC has inordinate influence on the political system in this country. It is a little-known fact that a Israeli company (Amdocs) handles billing records for almost ALL telephone activity in the United States. Of course, there are “back doors” built into the system that allow Israeli intelligence to monitor our politicians (movers and shakers) to “keep them in line”. Our “foreign policy analysts are almost all dual-nationality Israeli-Americans. Before you discount these assertations, check them out for yourselves . . . you will not like what you see . . .
@Arthur:
Excellent point! This should be spread far and wide. The most important point is this is what we get for extending equality before the law to these people. The FBI has not investigated? Can you imagine how many troops would be there if a good old boy published something similar in the church newspaper?
If there are any young authors out there – such a story would have Shakespearean tones. Obama as the symbol of the Black/Jewish alliance.
At what point would his screed been illegal?
Or was it illegal?
@90404:
At this point in our history it doesn’t have to be illegal. The FBI can investigate any call for the assassination of a President.
@Alice Teller: I believe the Secret Service is investigating. And yes, this story, as well as the one a month ago in which a Rabbi said horrible things about Tebow should be recirculated. I’d like to see the term “Jewish extremist” become as common as “Muslim extremist” or “Christian Right fanatic”, which we hear all the time.
The tribe says that Obama is a threat in order to get uppity Whites to think there’s a rift between Jews and Obama, which will cause Whites to vote for Obama yet again…while the tribe and Obama in fact actually have a tight-knit alliance. Nice ploy. Too bad the same tribal members who put Bush into power put Obama into power. They didn’t refer to him as the first Jewish president for nothing.
Andrew Adler seems confident that if Israel did murder an American president the U.S. government would cover it up in a similar fashion as the attack on the USS Liberty.
@Jason Speaks:
People are beginning to talk. I found this fellow via a traditional Christian site. He talks about the fascist takeover of the government that we are undergoing now, and we are not running it. I found it sobering. About 10 minutes.
http://maxkeiser.com/2012/01/21/ote141-on-the-edge-with-gonzalo-lira/
@Hedgerow:
Why not? There has never been any remotely plausible theory offered for why the Jack Ruby AKA Jacob Rubenstein killed Lee Harvey Oswald before he could be questioned.
I don’t like Obama. He’s a product of affirmative action, and leftist philosophy made into present U.S. law. But when I read this, I got a sick feeling in my stomach. It’s the old if you don’t respect the man thing, at least respect the office. Good God……………
@Bobby:
Which it precisely the point. We have let our hard won institutions be corrupted. They have no respect for us, our heritage, our customs, or our institutions. Now, they can barely bother to hide the arrogance. To me the essential
@Franklin Ryckaert:
This is true. Obama may not be the best ever president, but by and large he’s a good man. He’s tried to implement exactly what he said he would do in his election campaign.
He’s resisted the Israel lobby at a time when they represent a concentration of power greater than the US government, thus the will of the American people. No wonder he’s looking older.
He’s a good man. Americans are lucky to have him. You’re lucky to have him.
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Has the so called red, white and blue line finally been crossed?
Somehow, I doubt he’ll get the Samir Khan treatment.
Andrew Adler asks how far you would go to save Israel. I always get a laugh out of it when the issue is raised as to what wars others are morally obligated to engage in on behalf of Jews. Notice the question is never asked about Israel as to what wars it is morally obligated to engage in selflessly on behalf of others. It is always a one-way street.
Also linked at these pages:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/22/obama-for-president-of-israel/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/21/atlanta-jewish-times-please-donate-to-assassinate-the-president/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/21/orders-from-tel-aviv-murder-obama/
I know some of you, perhaps a majority, will not like this Veterans Today site because in many ways it is anti-WN, and goes to great lengths distinguish its anti-Zionism from anti-Semitism, although the both the ADL and SPLC have condemned it..
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/06/buyer-beware-veterans-today-and-its-anti-israel-agenda/
http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/911_conspiracy_theories_report.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_3
http://www.adl.org/main_anti_israel/conspiracy_theories_wikileaks.htm
I think the WN community needs to find a way to make common cause with others who are opposed to the semitic power and influence in America and Europe, and especially suspect a semitic motive behind 9-11, but are not/will not commit to a white nationalist/supremacist world-view … to somehow find a way to create an unified goyim resistance.
This is question that has bedeviled the WN community for as long as it has existed (based on my own independent, and difficult journey as an outlier among you) … “if you had to make a choice between a person of color whom you knew and respected, or a proud, self-loving jew who promised you money, power, fame, sex, etc, – what would it be?”
This was a direct threat by organised Jewry to the POTUS by the owner of a long established Newspaper. The Secret Service should arrest this person and make an example of him by permanently closing down his Newspaper, confiscating his assets and giving him a long time to think about it in a real prison, where he’ll meet some of Obama’s nice half brothers, not a country club reserved for Jewish swindlers.
Of course that’s what SHOULD happen, but we know it won’t. And so here is yet another example of how comprehensively this vicious tribe of murders and bomb throwing assassins have occupied America. They need to be removed. Eventually that will happen, one way or another they’ll be gone. It has happened over a hundred times before, they were expelled from every country they infested, history does repeat itself.
@Franklin Ryckaert: Obama is a bigger FOOL and incompetent than I ever could have imagined. He ought to have Adler arrested ASAP, under the new Commie provisions – and round up any and all potential cohorts. He could rid himself of all opposition, and make himself an African ruler – but he’s not that clever, is he?
consider these incidents:
college students hanging obama in effigy results in a visit from the secret service..
a jewish doctor who had guns and ammo and planned to blow up mosques was not tried on hate crime charges and received a slap on the wrist.
(insanity plea, cushy sentence in corporate park for non violent offenders)
I believe a muslim in new york was sentenced to years in jail for simply broadcasting an arab language satellite feed that was highly critical of israel and called for war against..
The hypocrisy is there for everyone to see. My only question is why this ‘slipped through the cracks’ – like the spitting on christians in jerusalem, and abe foxman’s feigned outrage it seems more a case of groups like the ADL getting angry for some rogue jews letting the cat out of the bag.
The ironic thing is that Kev Mac and this site is probably more closely monitored by the FBI and they would come down swift on this site or one of the other ‘far right’ (read normal for 50 years ago) web sites..
Methinks the Jewish community doth protest much, too much.
The Mossad has already gotten John Kennedy (for withholding the atom bomb, which Johnson supplied very promptly), and Obama is probably aware of that. He may or may not think he is quite as vulnerable as Kennedy obviously was, but if he does, then this is just a hamhanded reminder that he lives at the Mossad’s pleasure – as, indeed, each of us does.
No president can truly resist Israel, in any case, unless he can protect himself from Israel’s hit squads. For my part, I don’t think presidents can, which may go some way to explain why they so fawningly kowtow to the fruit of Zionism.
Israel floating those balloons………. “Well, we’re not saying we’re going to kill you, or that we want to kill you, but you can see why we think we need to kill you, right? Oh, and forget we said that just now, it’s despicable, despicable I tell you.”
@Alice Teller: Maybe you’re already acquainted with the Collins Piper work on JFK, and the Ben Gurion connection.
http://goo.gl/A0IhF
@Fenria
I agree with you, the immediate jewish condemnation, more than hypocrite, is meant to legitimize the assassination threat and give it publicity to scare Obama and show the world who is the boss.
It is really unbelievable what comes to light nowadays. May the good Lord help us all! I’ve never heard about JFK’s letter. That is surely a motive, and even more important than nationalizing the FED. As to the actual letter, here’s an easier link.
http://www.rense.com/general42/enemies.htm
@Trenchant:
Thank you for the link. I was not aware of this info. To be honest I had long since abandoned hope of learning the facts of the JFK murder, buried as they have been under so many tons of words and theories.
Who cares about the JFK assasanition? Who cares? Wh,y was JFK a friend of Native Born White Americans? Kennedy assasiation conspiracy theorist are as insane as 9/11 conspiracy theorist.
@Jett Rucker: actually if Obama were assinated it would be a double victory for Jewish leaders. First, let’s be realistic, MSM would somehow spin it on the ‘right’ (as was Kennedy’s assassination – it actually helped usher in the ‘sixties great society’) no matter who actually did it. They would find a non jewish stooge to take the hit just like the poor homeless drug addicts sitting in jail for setting fire jewish developer owned properties with pesky landmark designations.
Then Obama, despite being a third rate president, would be canonized into the new pc-religion, conservative opposition to, well anything.. open borders, increased racial quotas forced miscegenation , kulak like treatment of white males (and harem like treatment of white gentile women) you name it we’ll get it.
and of course, a president a little bit more willing to bomb iran.
In fact, if there is a clumsy assassination attempt against Obama Iran will probably be blamed for it.
@wattylersrevolt:
Who cares?
Do you also not care about the 34 dead American sailors and 171 wounded of the USS Liberty, attacked by Israel in a false-flag operation in 1967, left undefended by the US Navy’s Sixth Fleet on direct orders from LBJ at the White House, with his married jewish mistress (shiksa convert, former Irgun, then MOSSAD agent) by his side?
How folks who haven’t downloaded @Trenchant: linked file, a short summary is:
JFK was killed by the MOSSAD (with help before and after by American sayanim, eg Jack Ruby, aka Jacob Leon Rubenstein) and rogue elements of the US national security apparatus for demanding that Israel give up its nuke weapons program and revenge for not green lighting an invasion of Cuba during the Bay of Pigs, respectively.
As for insane 9-11 conspiracy theories, just google “five dancing Israelis” and “WTC7” and draw your own conclusions. Be careful of the hasbarist disinformation sites – they are easily the ones with the slickest production value (maybe even funded with your tax dollars).
Well, well, well. How come the Networks never tell me about stuff like this:) This is linked and commented on HERE by EX-ARMY.
Tepes
The attack on the USS Liberty has nothing to do with the Kennedy assassination.
The Israeli’s very likey were tracking the 9/11 terrorists and did not share that information with the US Goverment.
But Bush was not plotting late at night wth Chenney and Condellezza rice to low up the twin towers. 9/11 conspiracy theorists have benn exposed as bold brazen liars and psychopaths over and over again.
It was very very easy to knock down the twin tower and smash a passanger jet into the Pentagon..just as easy as it was for a 19 year German teenager to fly a small plane from Berlin to the Kremlin. Empires have a soft underelly. The 9/11 conspiracy theorists just can not accept the fact that mohammad atta and his buddies could pull it off..but they did..and they were able to do it because millions of White American men paid more attention to their favorite sports team of negro young males running around in tight spandex and fantasy footall pornagraphy than post-1965 immigration policy which was a “gift”to White American from JFK..the very same JFK who came wthin 60-30 seconds of starting nuclear WW3 when he decided to put ICM in Turkey pointed right at Russian..this is what ignited the Cuban Missle crisis. I could care less about who did and didn’t assasinate war criminal and race-replacement enthusiast JFK..the topic bores me to tears. As far as I am conerned,conpsiracy theorists are a cabal of the mentally ill and people with a paranoid delusion perspective on life.
Why anyone would care the welfare of someone-JFK-who has inflicted such enormous suffering on Native Born White Americans is beyond my comprehension..you just a bunch of sickos….
9/11 was and still is a massive opportunity to make a massive indictment of the race-replacing post-1965 immigration policy.
If you are young and have no skeletons in your closet, or if you have a smart kid who wants to do something with his life, consider a military career in COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. This is a very obscure job in the armed forces. When I was in basic training, I knew one Counterintel guy, and he was a short, bespectacled nerd, and one of the truck driver MOS macho guys made the mistake of underestimating his physical and mental viciousness. No one would have thought was was in this guy.
Anyway, he told me a little bit about what he was going into — basically his job was to catch spies and traitors.
Learn Hebrew, hide your views, go into military counterintelligence. Just think of the interesting places you’ll go and people you’ll meet. you might catch the next Jonathan Pollard! I’m sure the armed forces and other agencies are full of them. And they aren’t hard to recognize, if you are familiar with the Ashkenazi phenotype.
If the Israelis do this, they will first set up an eveil KKK neo nazi White nationalist group to take the blame. The person set up to actually do the deed will be a practicing Christian, a military veteran, family man with just one marriage and someone who at one time or another applied for a job and was turned down because of affirmative action.
Look what the Jews did in Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria and other E. European countries right after WW2. They swarmed in from their Russian training camps where they had sat out the war and killed off the opposition for the Russians.
Ensued 50 years of dictatorship and poverty.
It is widely believed that Jews murdered cabinet Secretary James Forrestal because he opposed the recognition of Israel.
An assassinatin of Obama would really split Israeli Jews and American Jews. Obama is American Jewry’s messiah. He is the chosen one who will once and for all destroy the White goyim opposition and allow billionarie Jews to rule over black and brown goyim while looting the country, just as they did and are now doing in Russia since 1918.
Since Israel is a welfare dependency of the American taxpayer coerced by American Jews, I think the American Jews will prevail.
Without the extortion, bribes and threats American Jews do to congress and the President, Israel would have ceased to exist decades ago.
In other news, last week’s Los Angeles Times has a leading article. “Should we bomb Iran.” We means the American goverment that follow Israel’s every wish.
V Tepes ‘undefended by the US Navy’s Sixth Fleet on direct orders from LBJ at the White House, with his married jewish mistress (shiksa convert, former Irgun, then MOSSAD agent) by his side?”
Who was she? I always thought that LBJ must have been blackmailed into the 1965 civil rights act and the EEOC.
He had a lot to be blackmailed about. JFK was pretty mild about blacks. But LBJ implemented the entire NAACP CPUSA Jews black coalition program.
So if you know who the girl friend was, please explain. The Liberty was not just the attack on the liberty and the murder of the crew. It was also a blatant exercise of Israeli power over LBJ, the defense department and the American military.
“We can kill you at will and you can do nothing about it” was the message Israel sent to America via the Liberty murders.
Trenchant the site http://goo.gl/A0IhF is blocked by the Beverly Hills Library computer. BH is of course Jewish town. Next time I am in a city of Los Angeles library i’ll see if the site is blocked.
The stated reason the site is blocked is because it contains pornography, gambling weapons etc.
@wattylerevolt: It isn’t the fact that Atta and company couldn’t “pull it off”, that bothers most investigators of the 9/11 attacks, it’s the obvious weirdness of what followed that leaves the impression of conspiracy in the minds of so many.
How, for instance, can building #7, a 44 story building simply collapse, with nothing, NOT A THING, having touched it? How could it pancake down in a matter of seconds, with no visible force affecting it? There are millions of Americans that don’t even know to this day, that this happened. There are so many bizarre phenonmenon associated with those attacks, that most rational people aware of them, would have to seriously wonder about the simple explanation put forth by the govenrment. Explaining isn’ the same as explaining away.
Stern Group? Don’t you mean Stern Gang.
Bobby
There have been many debates with the 9/11 conspiracy nuts over the past ten years. At this point in time, people just don’t waste their time anymore with the 9/11 conspiracy nuts. Very early on in the public debates the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense, the 9/11conspiracy theorists resorted to talking over their opponents and slandering them. The general public doesn’t believe you nuts..you are sick deusional cabal led Alex jones who makes very big bucks off the 9/11 nonsenense .In the end, the leaders of the 9/11 conspiracy insane asylum-mostly Jewish-have shifted the focus off post-1965 immigration policy and race-replacement. It was that easy to knock down the TT. As many thoughtfull commentators have pointed out, it is a conspiracy that would require the complicity of thousands of conspirators..it is all crazy nonesense.
The focus should be on JFKs war crimes and race-replacement treason..same for Bush and Chenney. The 9/11 conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones have no problem with forcing young Native Born White Americn Males having to compete with imported young muslim males for the scare resources of America such as affordable breeding space. This is the kind of stuff that Richrd Spencer,Peter Brimelow,Jared Taylor, and Kevin Macdonald should be writing about.
@Jett Rucker: The Mossad didn’t kill Kennedy, Oswald did.
The Mossad are a bunch of overhyped losers who benefit from Jewish lies in the press extolling any number of imaginary triumphs. Please remember the mess they made in Dubai, comically recorded on camera. They can’t even shut down this site, which exposes jewish crimes on a daily basis.
The myth of the Mossad is the same as the myth of the “Bear Jew” in WW2 as shown on a recent anti-white movie.
The greatest talent of the Mossad is propaganda, just like Herr Doktor Goebbels.
@Vlad Writes:
I tend to agree with Vlad on the overhyped nature of the Mossad, and to that I’d add the IDF. A retired Army Colonel who used to write for faem.com, Maguire, said that the IDF invasion of Lebanon was so poorly done that an affirmative action black US army officer would have done a much better job at all stages, but particularly in planning the invasion.
Having read the Ostrovsky books, I got the impression that Mossad katsas (the field agents, of whom there are only about 40) are out of shape physically, party like frat boys even into middle age, cheat on their wives, stab each other in the back, and are cowardly.
The real power of the Mossad is the sayanim, of course. And like I said, if you want to bust yourself some sayanim, go into military counterintelligence and learn Hebrew, if you can pass all the background checks and stuff. Get in, and investigate every Jew in the DoD. You’ll have a great time playing Katz und Maus with the Israel firsters!
wattylerevolt typed, “But Bush was not plotting late at night wth Chenney and Condellezza rice to low up the twin towers. 9/11 conspiracy theorists have benn exposed as bold brazen liars and psychopaths over and over again.”
The kind of person who accuses the intelligent, informed, concerned and reasonable people who question the official story of what happened on 9/11 of being “bold brazen liars and psychopaths” isn’t worth spit.
And you might want to bone up on how to spell your Misleader’s names before posting your ignorant ramblings for the rest of us to shake our heads at! Or at the very least you might want to consider not posting after your daily big bottle of cheap spirits is empty.
Geez!
Here are over 1600+ examples of “bold brazen liars and psychopaths” opposed to the nonsense spewed by the Powers That Be over 9/11.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Interesting how smart, focused, educated and informed they all appear to me.
Gee, I wonder which one of us commenting on this subject has a functioning brain and and not just a head filled with straw…
Just asking…
@mari:
Some good soul has put Final Judgement out as an audio book, too.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4625281
For the record, the Collins Piper work doesn’t posit that the Israelis were the material executors, just that they commissioned the hit.
To sum Wattlyrevolt’s composite position:
# Believes in AGW (heard a debate on the Alex Jones show).
# Kevin Macdonald is misguided to be banging on with psychometrics and interracial physiological differences. Boring.
# 9/11 and JFK’s assassinations are non-issues.
Hope I haven’t missed anything.
@Trenchant: Wattylerevolt. It’s contagious, this spelling thing.
If stating that buildings don’t fall down all by themselves makes a person a nut then sanity ain’t what it used to be !
Israel, via campaign contributions from Jewish casino owner Sheldon Adelson of Las Vegas to Newt Gingrich, is trying to buy a U.S. war against Iran. For a video, click on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6wzm7IQmg0
@Trenchant: Well, you did miss that people who absolutely don’t believe in conspiracies, are awfully trusting of govenrment. Good luck to them.
@Bobby: Well the government also employs many people, creating the odd conflict of interest or two.
artdeco
The insane truthers have been given a fair hearing..for ten years! I have listened to, and read many of these debates. The 9/11 truthers have been soundly defeated…many times over. This is why the vast majority of people no longer pay any attention to them…9/11 conspiracy theorists are like NYC rats that congregate among the mounds of conspiracy theory garbage and sewage in a a dark cold urban alley.
I have dealt with several 9/11 truthers…if this is a random sample of truthers then I can say with full confidence that are a cabal of very strange characters.
I saw the performance of the leaders of the Truther Cabal a few months ago on the Discovery Channel Special on the 9/11 conspiracy claims. The were given plenty of time to defend themselves..they came across as the same weird and dishonest characters that they were ten years ago.
Bin Laden’s second in command annoounced on CBS national news exactly one year before 9/11 to a CBS news reporter in a SUV in Pakistan how easy it would be to attack the US on US soil..tho quote him:”America,,berry berry easy..no problem..America is a very open society..no problem..he said this laiughing..so there you have it..knocking done the TT was that easy..9/11 is a massive indictment of of the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act..instead we get from Alex Jones,Paul Watson and the Jews Jason Bermas ad Kurt Nimo garbage about the poor muslims immigrants.
One well known race-replacement enthusiast and JFK and 9/11 conspiracy theorist..the old queen Gary Null..should have spent more time paying attention to his cheap labor immigrant vitamin factory on NJ than wasting so much time on the JFK and 9/11 nonesense..for if this money grubbing old queen had paid attention to his low wage vitamin racket in NJ.. he, along with over twelve of his vitamin operation customers could have avoided being almost poisoned to death by a mega-overdoese of vitamin D3 in Nulls’ vitamin D3 pills..Null and his customers came within a few minutes of losing their kidneys and going on dialysis permanently.
Utimately,9/11 enthusiasts are losers.
Trenhant.
The focus should be on JFKs and G W Bush’s treasonous race-replacement enthusiasm and war crimes. I could care less that he was assasinated…totally boring topic for very small minds.
JFK,9/11 conspiracy theory and IQ and race psychometrics only serves one purpose and that is to sidetrack discussion away from the race-repacaement of the Native Born White American Majority at the hands of high fetility post-1965 nonwhites..and if Jared Taylor,Peter Brimelow,Kevin MacDonald,Dennis Mangan,Steve Sailer and Richard Spencer continue to raise the 100 percent irrelevant IQ and race issue they are undermining the Native Born White American Patriotic Revolt against race-replacement at the hands of hostile,heavily armed and high fertility post-1965 nonwhites.
@Franklin Ryckaert: Brother Ryckaert stole my thunder by making the exact same point that crossed my mind, as soon as I read about this jewish threat against Obama.
Mark Glenn, who does an occasional podcast over on The Ugly Truth Podcast – has repeatedly stated that the gang who runs Israel and their 5th column of ‘sayanim’ here inside the USA – are nothing more than an Organized Crime Family of murderous, ruthless gangsters, and when you observe how these psychopaths operate in plain sight – it’s pretty clear that Mark Glenn is right on the money with his observations.
This Adler fellow didn’t issue this veiled threat without first clearing it through Tel Aviv, if you ask me. Incidentally, I called one of my Senator’s offices and shared this story with them – and then reminded the staff worker of the threat that Ariel Sharon had issued back during the first Bush Administration that he was going to insert Mossad assassination hit teams into every Western nation, including those who were perceived to be ‘friendly’ to Israel and Sharon said that his Mossad killers would be assassinating anyone who was deemed to be a ‘threat’ to Israel. About a week after Sharon made that announcement – which appeared on a number of major mainstream news websites – some reporter asked the White House press secretary about this announcement at a White House press conference. The press secretary pretended as though he hadn’t heard about it, and mumbled something about “they would look into it”.
The subject was never brought up again, to my knowledge.
When I had the Senator’s office staffer on the phone, I posited the possibility that the Israeli Mossad might even have a team of hit men assigned to all US Senators and US Congressmen – with orders to inflict harm upon any one of them who dared to not toe the Israeli lobby line on every issue. I pointed to the nauseating subservience of all of the GOP nominees for President, except Ron Paul, and their disgusting eagerness to lick the toes of the Israel Lobby and scream for more wars for Israel – basically, trying to out-do one another in promising to start WW3 and dropping nukes on Iran.
I flatly told my Senator’s office that, based on the treasonous eagerness being displayed by so many US Senators and Congressmen to ignore the interests of their own nation and people – none of which would be served by a war with Iran – it appeared to me that those Senators and Congressmen were either being (a) blackmailed by the Israel Lobby or, (b) Were terrified of either being assassinated by the Mossad or having one of their family members assassinated by the Mossad.
This, I told my Senator’s office, is a national security threat of EPIC proportions and is clear proof that America MUST sever our ties to the criminal, gangster state of Israel.
The staffer took copious notes of my comments, promised to pass them up the chain, and then as soon as I was off the phone, probably started shredding those notes while her office Mossad agent supervised the process.
This is an enemy who we are going to be able to defeat by voting?
@Mickey Meadows: Baloney. Obama’s presence in our White House is nothing more than a jewish engineered, anti-white, racial INSULT to every White European American, as well as an insult to every last one of our 100 percent White European Founding Fathers, who if they were alive today, would be APPALLED and REPULSED by the presence of a Mulatto in the highest office in our land. Our Founders DID NOT intend for America to be the multi-cultural, multi-racial cesspool that the jews have managed to turn it into. America was intended to be a homeland for White European people, period. WE are the posterity of those White European Founding Fathers, friend.
Obama isn’t. Fact: He was selected and installed into our White House by virulently anti-white jews as a means for them to show their hatred and contempt for our race and to give us the tip of their middle finger. They get their jollies by placing the boot of a half black man on the back of the White man’s neck.
Now, I will grant you your point about Obama doing one good thing (thus far) since he was installed into our White House, and that one good thing is his reluctance to give these murderous jewish psychopaths their war with Iran, and I will be the first White man in line to shake his hand on that display of resolve. Aside from Ron Paul, are there any White European politicians- male or female – who would have stood up to these blood-thirsty psychopaths? I can think of only Ron Paul, which is a pretty shameful thing to be forced to admit – that our White political leadership are a bunch of spineless, treasonous, pusillanimous, subservient, nauseating COWARDS.
But, I take very strong exception to someone who is a so-called pro-white individual posting this kind of toe kissing praise on a guy who is every bit as anti-white as any of our jewish enemies. This guy has been giving White America an illegal mestizo alien enema every day since the first day he stepped foot into the Oval Office, and while I certainly cannot vouch for Mr Mickey Meadows, the nerve endings in MY hind parts are not dead and are, in fact, getting extremely sore and painful the longer Obama stays in office.
@wattylersrevolt:
Please do not be so naive as to trust advocacy programming from the Discovery Channel. They would have certainly sandbagged the 911 truth side by choosing incompetent defenders and editing out the strongest anti-government arguments. If you are genuinely interested, investigate on the Internet but beware of the many intentional red herring websites. If you are not interested in further 911 research, I suggest you refrain from discussing the matter any more on public forums.
@arthurdecco:I have an old, former ex-military buddy who has to be the absolute dumbest White man to ever walk upright on two hind legs – and I’ve tried in vain, since 9-11-01, to help this guy remove his head from his hind parts and grasp that 9-11 was an inside/outside job.
As I said, this guy is a prototypical simpleton. He suffers from an extremely viral case of Cognitive Dissonance – and he seems to be incapable of grasping the impossibility of GW Bush personally pulling off 9-11, which is the farthest thing from reality – due to the fact that Bush was a cocaine brain damaged moron who couldn’t plan a backyard barbecue. But, to this simpleton’s way of thinking – any suggestion that 9-11 was an inside/outside job has to mean that Bush planned and pulled the whole thing off all by himself, and to this guy, this can’t be possible. This guy’s tiny brain isn’t capable of absorbing or trying to analyze any conspiracy that is the tiniest bit complex, which 9-11 most certain was and which GWB was far too stupid to play any major role in planning, aside from perhaps approving the operation.
Come on, fellow White Nationalists. The world we live in is not Mayberry, North Carolina. None of these major, history changing ‘events’ or ‘incidents’ that result in profound shifts in national focus and direction and a massive reordering of so-called ‘national priorities’ are EVER as simple as our dishonest ruling elites try to fool us into thinking they are.
Start using more than one or two brain cells, okay?
@wattylersrevolt: I think we’ve found an enemy troll here. I advise everyone to ignore anything that ‘wattylersrevolt’ has to say from this point forward.
For those who need some substantiation, download and watch the Mike Delaney documentary ’9-11 Missing Links’.
A slam dunk, bullet proof exposure of the Israeli role in 9-11.
@wattylersrevolt: You are right that most of the conspiracy stuff is a useless waste of time. However, you will not change their minds, not ever. They will go to their graves thinking this way, because it is a certain mindset. If it wasn’t this conspiracy, it would be another one. And they throw tantrums when you don’t “see” what they see. Hateful, bitter tantrums, that flow from a lifetime of not being taken seriously.
Note the lack of interest they display in facts that contradict their theories – they find them mere nuisances to be brushed aside. As you may have noted, there is a borderline religious need to believe that they are in possession of a great truth which no one else sees. After all, it makes a person feel important.
@Luke:
A lot of people accuse others of being so-called trolls. (I don’t like the term “troll” so I add the words so-called before it.)
Even you yourself were asked (under a different article) if you were a troll.
Some people think Jason Speaks is a troll. (And I’m not trying to upset those who believe he is. I don’t think he is, though.)
And I’m sure there have been other accusations that I’ve missed or forgotten.
I think we should be careful before permanently branding anyone as an anti-White “troll”.
Regarding 9-11…
Personally, I don’t know what to believe about 9-11. Same goes for climate change. I can say that I care deeply about the environment, and it would not surprise me if our greed and nearsightedness is harming the planet in important ways. I’ve never seen Al Gore’s documentary, and I’m somewhat skeptical of both sides of the issue, because a lot of money is involved (on both sides.)
@kyle:
Is that you, Kyle Broflovsky? Can Cartman blog too – no, wait, he’s already blogging under the name Wat Tyler.
@WP.Tepes: lol funny actually, but no. Go ahead, indulge your 911/JFK/Masonic beliefs. They will be talked about on blogs decades from now. They have almost zero impact on real culture and absolutely zero impact on White activism, but go ahead, indulge. Probably doesn’t hurt anything either, other than as a diversion.
Richard
I’m agnostic on climate change also…because I do not understand the finer details of the statistical modeling involved. Although, from a higher level-outline understanding of climate models I am not agnostic…it all comes down to the statistical strength of the hockey stick graph. What I am absolutly convinced of is this:with just one exception-Freeman Dyson-the critics of global warming are completely motivated by a poltical agenda-$$$$$$greed-in rejecting global warmng models..none of them have even made a serious effort to at least get a higher level understanding of the relevant climate models…Al Gore is a bad guy he belives in global warming therefore global warming can’t be happenning..real “sophisticated” reasoning right?..this is what the crackpot Alex Jones does..hey ,when was the last time that Alex Jones ever made a serious effort to have serious debate on his show between well kown critics of global warming and scientific researchers on global warmer..answer:never..and there is a reason why Alex Jones has never done this:because he is more interested in extracting very big $$$$$$$$$$ from a highly delusional and paranoid subset of the White American population..Alex Jones provides the anathesia..now Alex Jones ccould do a great public service by airing debates..that could contiue over time-about global warming..but he won’t..because Alex Jones has little regard for the truth which can be arrived at through debate. The same exact thing can be said about the case for the 9/11 conspiracy…debate it on infowars..Jones won’t do it because he absolutetly knows the outcome…and if these debates did take place the creepy Bermas would resort to vicious character assasination when the tables where turned against him in a dabate on 9/11..how do I know this..because it has already happend in other debates that Jason Bermas has participated in.
The race and IQ psychometric babble has been and continues to be another major way of sidetracking away from the race-replacement issue. And it is for this reason that I consider Pat Buchannan’s book a complete failure..I blame Peter Brimelow for this completely.
Native Bron White Americans are facing imminent race-replacement..and that’s just the beginning..and some people want to spend hours conjuring up one conpsiracy after another about who assasinated JFK the very person responsible for setting into motion Native Born White American race-replacement..and there are the 9/11 conspiracy theorist crazies like the narcissistic old queen Gary Null and the chubby fool Alex Jones who conjure up weird conpiracy theories…it sidetracks away completely from the race-replacement issue.
The really interesting story concerning 9/11 is the obvous fact that the Israelis were tracking the 9/11 terrorists and that Jewish organizations in America are treasonous and racist fifth column in America who have been promoting muslim legal immigration into American for years..this is what Kevin Mcdonald and Peter Brimelow should be focusing on..it is monumental treason and subversion…What do you say Kevin McDonald.
@wattylersrevolt: the critics of global warming are completely motivated by a poltical agenda-$$$$$$greed-
umm and literally hundreds of billions of dollars in cap and trade profits – set to be made by political insiders and al gore, isn’t a motivation??
@wattylersrevolt: As far as the hockey stick temperature graph goes, CO2 levels have risen consistently for the last ten years without a corresponding statistically significant increase in temperature. Global warming’s science is not settled.
me and vlad
Stop insulting peoples intelligence with Alex Jones talking points. I’m talking about the scientists who come up with these models…I have no reason to think that there motives are dirty…moreover, your points are irrelevant to the facts or lack of facts concernig global warming..what would or wouldn;t be done in terms of policy is a separate question..the top anti-global warming website belongs to a canadain billionaire in the mineral extraction industry…a;; of ALex jones guests are tainted like this…get a brain you two…
@wattylersrevolt:
AHEM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/01/05/911-and-israel-alan-sabroskys-candid-interview/
“The Implications of WTC7
First, the controlled demolition of WTC7 means if one building at the WTC was wired for a controlled demolition, then all three were.
Second, the impacting civilian airliners were intended to provide a gruesome and shocking distraction that would facilitate the actual destruction of the buildings by other means.
Third, any successful operation of this type requires expertise, access to the target(s), and effective local support to facilitate post-attack escape & evasion.
Fourth, neither the 19 named Arabs nor any of their possible supporters in the US or elsewhere had the expertise, access and local support needed to do that.
Fifth, only Israel had the required expertise, access and local support – inside and outside of the US Government – and a positive incentive to bring down those buildings, which was to enrage the American public and bring the US into war against Israel’s enemies.
So much links Israel to 9/11 – Only a public confession is missing, e.g.
Many key Bush Administration officials came from PNAC (Project for a New American Century). All were Zionists (Israeli partisans). They wrote about the need for a “catalytic event” to mobilize the American people.
Eight months after coming into office, they got their catalytic event on 9/11, followed by the wars their agenda required.
The company providing 24/7 electronic & personal security to the WTC, Kroll Associates, was owned & operated by Zionists, as was the WTC itself as of July 2001.
The owners and their immediate relatives seem to have been uncharacteristically absent on the morning of 9/11. Hundreds of American Jews died at the WTC & the Pentagon, but as best as can be determined, only 3 Israelis out of some 4,000 normally there, plus 2 more on the planes.
The senior fatality among WTC personnel was a retired Irish-American FBI agent in his first days on his job as Director of Security.
A private Israeli-owned security company called ICTS, registered in the Netherlands, provided security services (sometimes through a wholly owned subsidiary) to all three airports from which the four hijacked planes departed.
ICTS also provided security at the airports in Paris & Amsterdam, from which the so-called “shoe” & “underwear” bombers respectively departed.
Bergen, NJ residents saw five people on a white van filming the attacks and visibly celebrating. They had set up their cameras before the first plane hit. Police arrested them. All were Israelis. Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing.
All 5 were later released at the instigation of Israeli & American Jewish leaders, some in the US Government. Details are still classified.
A second van was stopped on the approaches to the George Washington Bridge. As CBS’s Dan Rather said in his live report:
“Two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives were discovered around the George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New Jersey over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those explosives had anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI, has two suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge…“
Those suspects and the incident then seem to have disappeared from the record.
NORAD (North American Air Defense command) and its fighters were conspicuously tardy. They should have intercepted the 4 aircraft within minutes but did not do so, due to a linked series of failures to (1) get timely FAA reports of the deviating aircraft, (2) scramble fighters from the closest bases, (3) intercept at maximum speed, and (4) redeploy already airborne fighters to do the intercepts.
Several PNAC alums and their counterparts were in positions to affect that outcome.
And as for the 9/11 Commission…
A fatally flawed commission, not least because of its pro-Israel staffing.
Many implausible details were accepted or allowed to stand without comment, such as the delivery by a well-dressed man of an intact passport to a detective at the base of the Twin Towers – a passport used to identify one of the named hijackers, that somehow survived the plane’s impact, the ensuing explosion and fire, and an 800-foot fall unaffected by wind.
The 9/11 Commission’s Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow evidently ensured that nothing deflecting attention from the 19 named Arabs, or toward Israel, would make the final report, whose reading defies belief.
He also told an audience at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002 that the real reason for his urging war with Iraq regardless of 9/11 was “the threat against Israel.” His concerns and loyalties are at least consistent.”
“What we need to stand up and say is not only did they attack the USS Liberty, they did 9/11. They did it. I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at it’s headquarters, Marine Corps and I made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period.” -
Dr. Alan Sabrosky, March 14, 2010
Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research.
He is listed in WHO’S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky’s teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).
@wattylersrevolt: I’ve never understood the desire to make a hero out of JFK. At this point, it strikes as a personality disorder. Grown people in their adulthood dreaming up the idea that this guy Kennedy wanted to save White America! And they will post one crazy theory after the other, and when it is finally disproven by someone, they just conjure up another one.
And on the 911 stuff, why won’t they focus on the more reasonable concern that Israel had advance knowledge but decided to capitalize on the event? But no, instead they swing for the fences with approaches that will literally never go anywhere.
If I was Israel, I would want to steer people away from reasonable concerns about Israeli foreknowledge and towards strange theories such as the idea that the planes were holograms (what the hell???). Maybe these people are part of the conspiracy, paid to spread ridiculous theories.
Jews will sanction and do ANYTHING that advances their group interests, in the name of combating “anti-semitism”; but for there to BE anti-Semitism, there must be such a thing as “Semitism” (ie…jewish behavior); so the logical conlusion is that ANTI-Semitism is a reation/response to Semitism.
@wattylersrevolt:
You are an obvious and incompetent troll. I would urge all readers here to understand that ‘whatisrevolting’ is here to disrupt and generally make reading comments here unpleasant. My advice is Don’t read his comments much less respond to them. He is a low level plant. These creatures are all over the internet and are especially obnoxious whenever the inside job of 911 and Israeli involvement is discussed.
Rabbi Yitzchak Frankfurter owner of Jewish weekly, ‘Ami Magazine’ had called Barack Obama a “neo-Nazi” a week earlier Adler called Mossad to eliminate Hitler Obama.
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/jewish-magazine-white-house-occupied-by-neo-nazis/
@wattylersrevolt: Hey Bud!
My name’s arthurdecco!
If you can even get that how can I expect you to get the subtle intricacies of 9/11?
Go back to sleep. Or whatever you call the state you exist in.
@wattylersrevolt: Hey Bud!
My name’s arthurdecco!
If you can’t even get that how can I expect you to get the subtle intricacies of 9/11?
Go back to sleep. Or whatever you call the state you exist in.
@wattylersrevolt:
Spot on.
The 911 “truthers” have done a serious disservice to issues like border control and controlling immigration of undesirable groups like Muslims and other 3rd world groups.
I stopped long ago dealing with them, since most are only capable of regurgitating someone else’s talking points – which pretty much relegates them to the category of mindless party hacks. If 911 didn’t happen they would have found another conspiracy to follow like UFO’s.
In regards to Mr. Adler’s comments, as a influential Jew he has carte blanche to say just about anything and be absolved by his fellows in the MSM and elsewhere.
He knows full well by the time a man becomes senator he’s been fully vetted by Jewish power brokers and by the time any man reaches the White House, he is owned by Wall Street and by extension the Tribe. You don’t get the hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign money from little people but from the bankers in New York and across the country.
Furthermore no man will be allowed to become president or even a influential senator without Jew approval. Any politician with a real populist tendency is not allowed to progress up the political ladder beyond say that of a junior congressman.
As for Obama, the Jews made him and protect him via their control of all major papers and TV news. Alder is just a uber Zionist who makes no bones about putting Isreal first above all else. He just made the mistake of writing down things that are best left Sub Rosa.
@KhazarCretin:
Thanks for this succinct summary of Israeli, ie: Jewish Zionist, perfidy.
@wattylersrevolt: I have’nt the slightest disagreement with almost all of what you write, and granted, there are some utterly crazy and bordering on demented people that talk about 9/11 conspiracies. furthermore, that type of individual, often “progressives’, like the guy you mentoined, Gary Null amony others, have an agenda far beyond finding out 9/11 discrepancies. You must understand that besides some of these obvious agenda driven people, are thousands upon thousands of Americans whos only agenda is truth. There are engineers, materials scientists, architects, and all kinds of people investing the things about 9/11 that simply make no sense to them, within the parameters of their field of expertise. What’s wrong with that? It would, in fact, lead to exposing many of the things that both you , I and many other people here desire.
@pessimist: “Spot On”?!?! You remind me of the kids I knew in school who only wanted to learn what supported their deluded prejudices – The Short Bus Kids.
Ever heard of curiosity, critical thinking, penetrating analysis, the scientific mode of thinking or simple common sense?!?!?
Of course you haven’t.
@Bobby: Sorry for all of the mispelling in my above post. I really should have checked it more carefully.
@Bobby: Booby, Thank you for being both intelligent and diplomatic. Great post! I’m not diplomatic. lol
I unreservedly apologize for my spelling error with your name, Bobby.l It was NOT intentional. It was NOT a slur. It was simple carelessness in typing my comment. I apologize for my carelessness.
@arthurdecco: I’m with you all the way arthurdecco and enjoy reading your posts. No offense taken. I was actually looking up a saying of Franklin Roosevelts for the purpose of trying to change pessimist and wattylersrevolt’s, thinking about the subject of conspiracies. I found it.
Rooselvelt said, “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.”
Now we know that the Neo-Cons began something in 1996 they called THE PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY. In those documents was a line concerning motivation that would be needed to change the middle east. “We need a Pearl Harbor type of event”. I leave it to the folks that are absolutely convinced about the stupidness of ascribing certain things to “conpiracies”. Hope your’e having a good night, Decco.
Bobby
Because the people you mentined are chasing ghosts..it will lead to absolutetly nowhere..and it is not a harmless pursuit…it takes attention off of the real crimes of JFK,Bush Cheney,ADL and AIPAC. By the way, the vast majority of structural-civil enginers and physcists do not accept the crazy conspiracy theories of the 9/11 truthers. Uri Geller used to claim he could bend spoons with his mind. And there were engineers and physcists at the time who would write papers supposedly showing how Geller could pull this off with his psychic powers..one of these scientists was-is a Nobble prize winning physcist named Brian Josephson…however, Noble Prize notwithstandng, Brian Joesephson is considered a demented crackpot among his colleagues including his Noble winning phd advisor Pillip Anderson. It is the same thing with the small percentage of academics who have given their blessing to the 9/11 conspiracy nonesense and anti-global warming-and corporate funded-sceptics.
The 9/11 conspiracy theorists are bona fide crazy..and this was obvious on the Discovery Channel special on 9/11 conspiracy when the intelletual “giants” of the 9/11 conspiracy movement on this special resorted to calling critics of the 9/11 Bush-Cheney inside theory as being part of the conspiracy..and this is the “beauty” of the 9/11 conspircay..if you criticize the 9/11 conspiracy well..you are part of the conspiracy!!!!. Go read Matt Taibi’s ruthless dissection of the 9/11 conspiracy nonesense.
In my opinion,Paul Craig Roberts discredited himself by pushing the 9/11 conspiracy insanity..and I believe he did it because he wants to flood America with high fertility post-1965 muslims. Paul Craig Roberts is a fraud.
My comment was deleted so goodbye TOO
@KhazarCretin:
Second, the impacting civilian airliners were intended to provide a gruesome and shocking distraction that would facilitate the actual destruction of the buildings by other means.
Right , the whole operation was intended to impact the minds of the American people. It had to be spectacular . It had to be symbolic. It was theater meant to leave a deep impression on the people’s psyche . It worked very well as you can see.
This show had to be financially advantageous , as in the buildings being white elephants that were insured to the hilt by “lucky larry”
A special note to those who think that “conspiracy theorists” are nutters … * yawn * whatever.
@wattylersrevolt:
It is the same thing with the small percentage of academics who have given their blessing to the 9/11 conspiracy nonesense and anti-global warming-and corporate funded-sceptics.
Open your eyes . where the f*ck do you see this ” corporate funded ” stuff ? There has got to be one million times more funding for agendas like ” global warming” than skepticism. Honestly , you have to be completely detached from reality if you think that it is even close in terms of money and backing from the establishment.
Look again.
I am confident Adler will be arrested, admonished, and assigned community service at the ADL or SPLC
a glitch, hi TOO!!
@Tommyboy:
Well said! If anyone can read this opinion piece from Haaretz and not imagine Rumpelstiltskin having a hissy fit, I’ll give him a Yankee dime.
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/jewish-publisher-is-an-idiot-but-his-hatred-is-shared-by-many-1.408466
As if real jewish power announces stuff like this .
it’s just more theater.
Pessimist:
“In regards to Mr. Adler’s comments, as a influential Jew he has carte blanche to say just about anything and be absolved by his fellows in the MSM and elsewhere.”
And yet you decry those who believer in conspiracies, ie. individuals working together to pursue interests harmful to others? Isn’t there a disconnect.
To Wattylerevolt’s appeal to authority (my, how few academics are 9/11 sceptics!), one needs only to point out where the bulk of research money comes from, and the career risks of making seditious comments.
To those who can spell (no Nobble prize for that, sorry) and have the patience to watch some good sense on AGW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKoUwttE0BA
@John hearns:
You might enjoy these photos of some genuine crash carnage. (No CGI nor Muhammadans, sorry).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086028/Photos-1960-Brooklyn-airline-crash-sparked-new-era-black-boxes.html
Now we’re girding up for some serious Iran-bashing and Obama seems to be dragging his feet, casus belli must be in high demand.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/us-judge-rules-iran-responsible-for-911-178161.html
Trenchant
What authority are you appealing to? The corporate whore Lord Mockcton who advised the corporate whore Maggie Thatcher..the same Lord Mockton who is the scientific advisor-even though he has no training in science-to the Heartland Insititute which has recieved 50 million dollars from mega corporations..which makes it an advocate for the raping and plundering of the planets life support systems. By the way, go google the comments made today by the president of the Maldeve Islands.
By the way, is the lead structural engineer of the original Twin Towers-who thinks the 9/11 conspiray theorists are nuts -also part of the grand conspiracy? How out the current structural engineers of the Freedom Tower who also believe the Truthers are nuts? Are they part of the conspiracy also? Get a brain in your head.
The big problem with the 9/11 truthers is that they engage in bold-face lying which was very apparent during the Discovery Channel Special on the 9/11 Conspiracy theories…it was really quite shocking how bold razen they were in their over-the-top-lying.
@wattylersrevolt: Well, than you have convinced me, that buildings that are 44 stories high, (like WTC#7) can collape in pancake fashion right into the ground without a single force acting on them. Happens everyday. It would be silly conspiratorial thinking to think otherwise.
Notice how wattylersrevolt goes into hysterical theatrics to paper over any mention of Israeli involvement in 9/11. Rather than addressing the heavy hitting “conspiracy theorists” like ROBERT BOWMAN and ALAN SABROSKY, he talks about spoon bending and Alex Jones. You gave yourself away goofball.
@wattylersrevolt: “brazen”. Less time at Discovery Channel, more time learning to write. When you’ve mastered that, kindly return to insult those who don’t believe the anointed conspiracy.
I do find it fascinating that Wattylersrevolt is horrified at Maconald, Taylor and Brimelow’s “endless, mind-numbing, the eyes-glaze-over discussion about psychometrics”. I’d say this discomfiture is an excellent endorsement for pushing on.
And I don’t have to come up with any weather theory, that onus rests on those who are pushing AGW. Weather is too complex to be modelled reliably, too many variables, not enough constants.
@wattylersrevolt: For everyone who can see through wattylersrevolt’s disingenuous nonsense, I suggest starting your investigation of 9-11 at the 911 Research website. It is well organized and credible and links to a handful of other credible, genuine 9-11 Truth websites.
Cass Sunstein and his cognitive infiltration crew have set up an endless hall of mirrors of 9-11 disinfo websites that propose all manner of absurd theories in order to obfuscate the central role of Mossad and rogue elements of the US Government.
“…give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place…”
Think of the ramifications of that statement – beyond the obvious traitorous aspects of his comment, (and therefore deserving of incarceration or even execution under the present laws of the United States of America)…
Wasn’t he clearly suggesting the current Vice President would be more amendable to doing as he was told by his Zionist Benefactors?!?!
Isn’t that something Americans should be concerned about?!?
I mean, really; are you guys really all so supportive of the sociopathic objectives of Zionism?
I don’t think so. Most Americans are smarter than that – even if they are deliberately under-educated.
Of course not.
Israeli Assassinations and American Presidents
by Alison Weir, January 25, 2012
On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”
Adler wrote that it is highly likely that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles.”
Numerous Jewish leaders quickly condemned Adler, who has now apologized for the column, resigned, and put the newspaper up for sale. An Israeli columnist noted that the hatred being stirred up against Obama is similar to conditions in Israel that led to the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by a Jewish extremist.
Many of those criticizing Adler claim that he defamed Israel by suggesting that it would ever do such a thing. Abe Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), proclaimed: “There is absolutely no excuse, no justification, no rationalization for this kind of rhetoric. It doesn’t even belong in fiction.”
In reality, however, Adler’s expectation that Israel’s inner circles have explored such a course of action, and would be willing to undertake it, may be entirely accurate. The fact is that Israel has killed and plotted to assassinate people throughout the world; a number have been Americans. One alleged plot was chillingly similar to Adler’s suggestion.
There is evidence that in 1991 an Israeli undercover team planned to assassinate a U.S. president. The intended victim was George Herbert Walker Bush.
The first person to write of the plot was a former 11-term Republican congressman from Illinois, Paul Findley. In a 1992 article in the Washington Report for Middle East Affairs, Findley described the alleged scheme and how it was revealed.
Findley wrote that the U.S. Secret Service had received a warning that elements of Israel’s spy agency might target Bush when he went to Madrid for the opening day of the peace conference to be held that year.
According to Findley, a former Mossad agent named Victor Ostrovsky, who had written a book exposing Israel’s spy agency, told a group of Canadian parliamentarians that he had received secret intelligence suggesting that the “the Mossad’s hatred of Bush — and support for Vice President Dan Quayle — might lead to an attempt on the president’s life.”
Israel considered Quayle much closer to Israel than Bush. Bush had particularly angered Israel by attempting to pressure Israel into ending its illegal settlement expansion on confiscated Palestinian land by withholding loan guarantees until Israel ended this practice.
Findley wrote that Ostrovsky’s statements were relayed to Findley’s friend and former colleague Paul “Pete” McCloskey, a prominent former Republican congressman from California who had recently been named by Bush to the National and Community Service Commission.
McCloskey, a decorated Marine veteran and graduate of Stanford Law School who had at one time been considered a presidential contender, flew to Ottawa to debrief Ostrovsky in person and evaluate his information.
Findley reported that Ostrovsky told McCloskey that the Mossad wanted “to do everything possible to preserve a state of war between Israel and its neighbors, assassinating President Bush, if necessary.” Ostrovsky said that a PR campaign was already underway in both Israel and the United States to “prepare public acceptance of Dan Quayle as president.”
Convinced that Ostrovsky was legitimate and his information significant, McCloskey jumped on the next flight to Washington, where he reported Ostrovsky’s intelligence to the Secret Service and State Department.
The apparent plot never went forward, perhaps because Ostrovsky and McCloskey had given it away.
Ostrovsky gave more details about the plot two years later in his 1994 book, The Other Side of Deception: A Rogue Agent Exposes the Mossad’s Secret Agenda, published by HarperCollins.
In the book, Ostrovsky wrote that an extremist group within Mossad was responsible for the plan. He said they kept the plan secret from then–Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, though they believed that Shamir would have ordered such a hit himself if he hadn’t been constrained by politics. In the lead-up to Israel’s 1948 founding war, Shamir had headed up a terrorist group known for its assassinations.
In his review of Ostrovsky’s book, Ambassador Andrew Killgore, a retired career foreign service officer and publisher of the Washington Report, called the book an “insider’s probing exposé of some Middle East realities that have been hidden too long from all but Israeli eyes.”
Ostrovsky wrote that the Israelis planned a “false flag” operation, in which they would pin the assassination on Palestinians. They kidnapped three Palestinian militants from Beirut who were to be the scapegoats, took them to Israel’s Negev desert, and held them incommunicado.
“Meanwhile,” Killgore writes, “Mossad-generated threats on the president’s life, seemingly from Palestinians, were leaked. These were designed to throw suspicion on the organization of rogue Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal. Names and descriptions of the three terrorists were leaked to Spanish police so that, if the plot was successful, blame would automatically fall on them.”
Ostrovsky reports that after the assassination plot was eventually canceled, the three Palestinian prisoners were “terminated.”
more: http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassinations-and-american-presidents/
Mossad To Begin Targeted
Murders On American Soil
By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
Washington Politics & Policy Desk
1-15-3
Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with UPI.
With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director Israel’s Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is also preparing “a huge budget” increase for the spy agency as part of “a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war),” one Israeli official said.
Since Sharon became Israeli prime minister, Tel Aviv has mainly limited its practice of targeted killings to the West Bank and Gaza because “no one wanted such operations on their territory,” a former Israeli intelligence official said.
Another former Israeli government official said that under Sharon, “diplomatic constraints have prevented the Mossad from carrying out ‘preventive operations’ (targeted killings) on the soil of friendly countries until now.”
He said Sharon is “reversing that policy, even if it risks complications to Israel’s bilateral relations.”
A former Israeli military intelligence source agreed: “What Sharon wants is a much more extensive and tough approach to global terrorism, and this includes greater operational maneuverability.”
Does this mean assassinations on the soil of allies?
“It does,” he said.
“Mossad is definitely being beefed up,” a U.S. government official said of the Israeli agency’s budget increase. He declined to comment on the Tel Aviv’s geographic expansion of targeted killings.
An FBI spokesman also declined to comment, saying: “This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws.”
A congressional staff member with deep knowledge of intelligence matters said, “I don’t know on what basis we would be able to protest Israel’s actions.” He referred to the recent killing of Qaed Salim Sinan al Harethi, a top al Qaida leader, in Yemen by a remotely controlled CIA drone.
“That was done on the soil of a friendly ally,” the staffer said.
But the complications posed by Israel’s new policy are real.
“Israel does not have a good record at doing this sort of thing,” said former CIA counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson.
He cited the 1997 fiasco where two Mossad agents were captured after they tried to assassinate Khaled Mashaal, a Hamas political leader, by injecting him with poison.
According to Johnson, the attempt, made in Amman, Jordan, caused a political crisis in Israeli-Jordan relations. In addition, because the Israeli agents carried Canadian passports, Canada withdrew its ambassador in protest, he said. Jordan is one of two Arab nations to recognize Israel. The other is Egypt.
At the time, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said, “I have no intention of stopping the activities of this government against terror,” according to a CNN report.
Former CIA officials say Israel was forced to free jailed Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmad Yassin and 70 other Jordanian and Palestinian prisoner being held in Israeli jails to secure the release of the two would-be Mossad assassins.
Phil Stoddard, former director of the Middle East Institute, cited a botched plot to kill Ali Hassan Salemeh, the mastermind of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre. The 1974 attempt severely embarrassed Mossad when the Israeli hit team mistakenly assassinated a Moroccan waiter in Lillehammer, Norway.
Salemeh, later a CIA asset, was killed in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1976 by a car bomb placed by an Israeli assassination team, former U.S. intelligence officials said.
“Israel knew Salemeh was providing us with preventive intelligence on the Palestinians and his being killed pissed off a lot of people,” said a former senior CIA official.
But some Israeli operations have been successful.
Gerald Bull, an Ontario-born U.S. citizen and designer of the Iraqi supergun — a massive artillery system capable of launching satellites into orbit, and of delivering nuclear chemical or biological payloads from Baghdad to Israel — was killed in Belgium in March 1990. The killing is still unsolved, but former CIA officials said a Mossad hit team is the most likely suspect.
Bull worked on the supergun design — codenamed Project Babylon — for 10 years, and helped the Iraqis develop many smaller artillery systems. He was found with five bullets in his head outside his Brussels apartment.
Israeli hit teams, which consist of units or squadrons of the Kidon, a sub-unit for Mossad’s highly secret Metsada department, would stage the operations, former Israeli intelligence sources said. Kidon is a Hebrew word meaning “bayonet,” one former Israeli intelligence source said.
This Israeli government source explained that in the past Israel has not staged targeted killings in friendly countries because “no one wanted such operations on their territory.”
This has become irrelevant, he said.
Dagan, the new hard-driving director of Mossad, will implement the new changes, former Israeli government officials said.
Dagan, nicknamed “the gun,” was Sharon’s adviser on counter-terrorism during the government of Netanyahu in 1996, former Israeli government officials say. A former military man, Dagan has also undertaken extremely sensitive diplomatic missions for several of Israel’s prime ministers, former Israeli government sources said.
Former Israel Defense Forces Lt. Col. Gal Luft, who served under Dagan, described him as an “extremely creative individual — creative to the point of recklessness.”
A former CIA official who knows Dagan said the new Mossad director knows “his foreign affairs inside and out,” and has a “real killer instinct.”
Dagan is also “an intelligence natural” who has “a superb analyst not afraid to act on gut instinct,” the former CIA official said.
Dagan has already removed Mossad officials whom he regards as “being too conservative or too cautious” and is building up “a constituency of senior people of the same mentality,” one former long-time Israeli operative said.
Dagan is also urging that Mossad operatives rely less on secret sources and rely more on open information that is so plentifully provided on the Internet and newspapers.
“It’s a cultural thing,” one former Israeli intelligence operative explained. “Mossad in the past has put its emphasis on Humint (human intelligence) and secret operations and has neglected the whole field of open media, which has become extremely important.”
Regarding Mossad’s new policy and budget increase, Kim Farber an Israeli Embassy official said, “There is so little information available on this, there is nothing I can add.”
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I don’t think Obama is opposed to the Jews interests. That is of course another Jewish ruse. One poster suggested this was to fool people into thinking Obama is anti-zionist, and voting for him.
I suspect the Jews might be trying to conceal the fact that Obama is not capable of ordering a war with Iran.
According to the Jew Adler’s column, Israel needs to get Obama out of there “in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
Obama might not have the political capital to “forcefull dictate” the United States into going to war with Iran. Obama can’t even convince people he’s constitutional eligibility to serve as President in any capacity, let along command the armed forces.
Or it could ablo be simply because it’s an extremely bad idea.
I would test this theory by comparing the current situation with the circumstances surrounding Bush’s invasion of Iraq
George Bush is a military veteran, sort of, Obama was a community organizer. Bush’s father was President, Obama’s father was a foreign national. George Bush owns a baseball team… you get the picture.
We can agree that Israel did 9/11. If the Army did not know this in 2002, a number of them should have figured it out by now.
Then there’s the Petrodollars situation. Regardless of the Jewish influence, America has a material interest in maintaining the dollars’ status in the global oil trade. While this objective may have appeared realistic in 2002, it has clearly failed. And it might be the reason why the Iran war isn’t happening.
I agree with Vlad that Mossad is over-rated. Jews are over-rated in general. At some level, they have to rely on non-Jewish accomplices, and those might be coming hard to find, the kind who can help you start World War 3 anyway.
You can sense the frustration, as they’ve become far more hostile and arrogant. Like the Kike who bragged about his “tribe” controlling Hollywood and “so what”. Or the way Buchanan was unceremoniously dismissed from his television program. This is what they call hutzpah. They’d much rather stick a knife in your back, they only bluff when they have to.
We should take note of the fact that the Jews may have painted themselves into a corner, starting a war that the United States appeart unable, and less and less willing, to finish for them.
Iran’s statements toward Israel are greatly exagerated. But Israel can’t stand on its own hind legs without massive foreign aid from America. Aid that help might be forthcoming if America loses interes in the Middle East. That wouldn’t be a problem, if Israel could build it’s Middle East empire, and acquire land, water and petroleum resources. But there Iran becomes a problem. Israel’s ambitions cannot tolerate any of its neighbors being able to defend themselves.
This speculative article is a warning to Pres Obama. Dag Hammerskold, Bernadotte and Colonel Soyer, 2 mysterious murders of Scandinavian cabinet ministers, the attempted murder of Ernest Bevin, the Israelis have done it before and will do it again.
If they succeed, someTimothy McVeigh alleged neo nazi White nationalist will be blamed. If you think the White goyim are villified in the Jewish media now, see what happens if the Israelis do succeed in killing Pres Obama.
If the Israelis do succeed in killing him, the repercussions against American Whites will be horrific.
Leon Cologyz however it is spelled who killed Mckinley was a communist Jew from the Russian sector of Poland. He was a devoted follower of Emma Goldman and Alex Berkowitz. You won’t find that in any history book. He is always described as a “Pole”.