Anxiety about a Northwest White Homeland

Kevin MacDonald


The LATimes, always quick to pick up on new trends, published a propaganda piece by Kim Murphy which does its level best to pathologize Whites who want to live with other Whites  (“White supremacists revive dream of a homeland in Northwest.”) (Actually, the trend has also been noticed by the SPLC and vy George Soros’ Media Matters.) The LATimes article is centered around the sentencing of Kevin Harpham to a 32-year prison term for leaving a backpack containing explosives along the route for a MLK-Day parade in January, 2011. What Harpham has to do with setting up a White homeland in the Northwest is left up to the reader’s conjecture, but I guess we are supposed to think that Whites who are motivated to have a place to call their own are basically bomb throwers at heart.

But wait. It gets worse–much worse:

In 2010, residents in several parts of Idaho woke to find Easter eggs tossed on their lawns — courtesy of the not-dead-yet Aryan Nations. The eggs contained jelly beans and solicitations to “take back our country and make it great, clean, decent and beautiful once again.”

Do these people have no shame?? Easter eggs and jelly beans. The horror!

Murphy uses the Harpham case and a firearms violation case, also from Spokane, to lead into a description of the nascent White homeland movement in Montana and Idaho.  April Gaede is mentioned because of her work “appealing to white ‘refugees’ to establish a Pioneer Little Europe” in Kalispell, MT. Also mentioned is stalwart Canadian pro-White activist Paul Fromm (who has been invited to speak in the area) and conservative activist Chuck Baldwin, who has actually moved there.

 Chuck Baldwin, the 2008 presidential candidate of the Constitution Party, moved to Montana from Florida in 2010 to help establish an “American redoubt” for “liberty-loving brethren,” and is now running as a Republican for lieutenant governor.

“We know there’s a fight coming. We know there is a line being drawn in the sand, and we want to be in the right place. The good ground is right here in Montana,” Baldwin told supporters last year. 

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Murphy acknowledges that “the new arrivals have not made overt threats of violence. Many have said they came to establish a quiet line of defense against rising crime in cities to the south.” But what is really terrifying to the multiculturalists is that the new settlers are being open about their beliefs:

Yet Travis McAdam, executive director of the Montana Human Rights Network, said the militant right posed a different kind of challenge. Instead of doing most of their proselytizing online, as they have in the past, he said, the groups are now sponsoring public meetings, bringing in guest speakers such as David Irving, an internationally known writer who challenges the Holocaust, and Paul Fromm, a well-known Canadian white supremacist.

“The idea that they just want to move here and be left alone — we’ve seen in the last 21/2 years that that’s not what these folks are about. They’re about pushing their agenda, trying to recruit people if they can,” McAdam said. “It’s definitely about establishing a presence and saying basically, ‘We’re here.’ ”

In the case of Baldwin, he added, “They’re engaging mainstream political institutions and trying to accumulate power.”

Right. They advocate their perceived  interests and pursue power just like the misguided McAdam does. (I wonder how much McAdam makes for being in tune with the really big money guys like the SPLC.) It’s exactly what every other identified group seeks to do. A Latino enclave spouting La Raza propaganda and trying to elect people like themselves to office would be cheered on by the LA Times, Media Matters and the SPLC. They don’t have a problem with lavishly funded overtly Jewish groups that advance specific Jewish interests such as Israel, massive non-White immigration, and a multicultural America. (Nor do they have a problem with groups like Media Matters and the SPLC that are not overtly Jewish but are lavishly funded by Jews and promote many of the same interests as the organized Jewish community.) But any suggestion that Whites are organizing to advance their interests as Whites is horrifying to these people.

The idea of a White homeland in the Northwest is certainly one strategy that should be on the table for Whites who identify as White and want to advance their interests as Whites. 

The really encouraging thing here is that people who are participating in this movement are being open about it. They are having meetings and are inviting speakers who are on the same page. It’s getting to be part of the furniture of life up there. And when people see how normal these people are, Whites on the sidelines will get on board because  there is a primal appeal of such a movement based on shared culture and genetic relatedness—especially when it is gradually dawning on a lot of Whites that multicultural America is fast becoming a hostile place for them to live.

This public presence is an indispensable step toward legitimacy—having public meetings and public demonstrations of good, responsible White people who only want what every other racial/ethnic group wants: A place to be with people like themselves, to run the place as they see fit, and to exclude people they don’t want.

The U.S. government and the entire political and cultural establishment loves the idea of Israel as a Jewish state, and isn’t bothered in the least by the fact that it is an apartheid state actively engaged in ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians—a far more radical and violent program than proposed by those who want a White homeland in the already White Northwest. No one argues that Korea, say, should import millions of Africans so that Korea can become a multicultural society in which native Koreans are a minority, even though they have dominated the Korean peninsula for thousands of years. The leftist multicultural elites would be horrified if someone suggested massive European immigration into African societies so that Africans would be a minority and their culture lost.

But multicultural elites have managed to persuade huge numbers of Whites that they have a moral obligation to allow themselves to be displaced and to lose political and cultural control.

This is absurd. The great thing here is that this nascent movement for a White homeland in the  Northwest is having the critical effect of making White ethnic and cultural interests a part of the mainstream intellectual discussion in those areas—despite the best efforts of the LA Times, Media Matters, and the SPLC. That is the first step toward revolution.

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202 Comments to "Anxiety about a Northwest White Homeland"

  1. Donar Van Holland's Gravatar Donar Van Holland
    February 22, 2012 - 7:57 am | Permalink

    @fender: True, but we do not want to convince the tribe, we want to convince our fellow whites!!! And if they check out Covington or other literature that is mentioned by the tribe as proof, they will be convinced that White nationalists are dangerous fools… That is also why the tribe just LOVES skinheads…

  2. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    February 18, 2012 - 1:29 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: @Jason Speaks:

    No I just didn’t think that the people at TOO had anything to do with Lincoln Rockwell, William Pierce, the Turner diaries, or Harold Covington. Any more than they were associated with the Klan rally. I thought all of that, even a whiff of it was understood to be self-destructive and a dead end.

    JS, you are constantly trying to tell people what they can consider as to being legit discourse. That is your right but it is offensive to many.
    I think that most people would agree that the old saying ‘desperate times calls for desperate measures’ certainly applies to modern times.
    Every political group has it’s radicals while the bulk of that group are not so radical.
    People are not as stupid as you imply . People ‘get’ that passion for a cause can be manifested in very severe language and radical ideas/statements. People do not need more mamby pamby thought controllers telling them what is ok to think or say.
    Get over it and stop trying to run the show.

  3. February 16, 2012 - 12:23 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I think there are only you and one or two other people here that are THAT sensitive and THAT fearful.

    I included a link to the archive of Dr. Pierce’s podcasts in my previous essay on this blog because Dr. MacDonald suggested it. Obviously he is not so worried about “a whiff” as you are.

    I only used the example of George Lincoln Rockwell to represent how one, supposedly extreme, advocate of White interests nonetheless extended a hand to Blacks based on perceived mutual interest. What you have been trying to do rhetorically based on that is not reasonable.

  4. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 15, 2012 - 5:29 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes:

    Thanks I appreciate it. It’s guys like you that will move pro white agendas forward. And yes, affirmative-action does suck!

  5. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 15, 2012 - 5:20 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    No I just didn’t think that the people at TOO had anything to do with Lincoln Rockwell, William Pierce, the Turner diaries, or Harold Covington. Any more than they were associated with the Klan rally. I thought all of that, even a whiff of it was understood to be self-destructive and a dead end.

  6. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 15, 2012 - 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m starting to get a spooky, cultish vibe off some of these people. The hyper-aggressive, overly masculine, bullyboy tactics, the constant referencing of creeps from the past that did great harm to White Advocacy, the Apocalyptic mindset, the weird refusal to engage in normal dialogue, and the sense that there are “mysterious tactics of which we must not speak” lurking in the future. A cursory look at the history of White Nationalist (felons, murders, sex offenders, lifelong grudges) is not a pretty picture and it appears to be the same, to this day. Damn, I hate it. Why can’t there be a normal pro-White group of people? Instead we get one bad Adolf Hitler impression after the other. Image made in Hollywood, by the usuals. . .Who gains from sh*t like this:

    http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/ac243/haystacker29/8-1scans/8-1scans0000087A.jpg

    Who claims that WN=Nazism?? Who AGREES with that claim?? Who is really in charge of the “movement”?

  7. February 15, 2012 - 12:34 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I’m starting to get a spooky, cultish vibe off some of these people.

    Baloney. You’ve been staging this same scene for some time now.

  8. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 15, 2012 - 9:24 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I really don’t understand why you are occasionally considered to be disruptive or subversive. You speak the truth and bring forth constructive criticism and good insight, while politely disagreeing when you feel someone is wrong. Not everyone likes to be contradicted or challenged, and some resort to name calling when they run out of things to say. I like reading what you say, and I am sure many others do also.
    Interestingly, I consider myself one of the Hard Men of White Nationalism™ (that was clever of you) in the best sense of the term but I am not offended by your jibes because I know we can get carried away, and could self destruct without brotherly correction.
    I also consider myself to be a founding member of The White Nationalism Peace Council and hope to create common ground and less fussing among the various factions, because what unites us is greater than what divides us, and anyone who fights affirmative action is a brother or sister in some way.
    Affirmative Action Sucks!©

  9. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 15, 2012 - 6:38 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    This is becoming Bizarro World. I invite anyone to go listen to Lincoln Rockwell or Pierce or Harold Covington. Go listen to them. THIS is what you want your site to be associated with? Rockwell was a loon. Covington uses the “N” word constantly (as did Rockwell), yet his fans think we can forget an alliance with black people? (As in, hey you buncha n*ggers, us National Socialists wanna team up with ya). And Pierce wrote a novel that pretty much disqualifies him from serious consideration by the public, at least for the next 100 years. I understand why the opportunists are latching on to TOO and Counter-Currents. Not sure why they are allowing it.

    I’m starting to get a spooky, cultish vibe off some of these people. The hyper-aggressive, overly masculine, bullyboy tactics, the constant referencing of creeps from the past that did great harm to White Advocacy, the Apocalyptic mindset, the weird refusal to engage in normal dialogue, and the sense that there are “mysterious tactics of which we must not speak” lurking in the future. A cursory look at the history of White Nationalist (felons, murders, sex offenders, lifelong grudges) is not a pretty picture and it appears to be the same, to this day. Damn, I hate it. Why can’t there be a normal pro-White group of people? Instead we get one bad Adolf Hitler impression after the other.

  10. February 15, 2012 - 6:19 am | Permalink
  11. February 15, 2012 - 6:10 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I was not aware that I or anyone else used the term N*zi to “jam” discourse, nor have I ever wanted to jam discourse….

    I think the difficulty of having a rational discussion when one or more of the participants repeatedly invokes Hollywood stereotypes should be obvious.

  12. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 15, 2012 - 12:59 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    You made a baseless accusation accusing me of putting a finger in the air before speaking, when I can hardly be accused of such a thing. Apparently, you don’t feel any need to explain why you said it. You bark it, and it is thus. Good luck with that.

    Well it is MacDonald’s site, if he wants to accede to the demands of National Socialists, that is his right – after all, we still have some freedom of speech and private property laws in this country, so he can control his own website, it’s not like real National Socialists have taken control. And if some term or the other is causing problems, perhaps it is best to ban it. I would suggest the ethnic slurs that some posters use cause the site far more trouble, but whatever.

    I was not aware that I or anyone else used the term N*zi to “jam” discourse, nor have I ever wanted to jam discourse – indeed, I am always trying to encourage it. In fact, it is typically the N*zis, National Socialists and Hard Men of White Nationalism™ types that go berserk when challenged or even asked to elaborate on something they’ve said.

    They don’t engage in discourse, they expound, they preach, they proclaim.

    And oh yeah, they lose.

  13. February 15, 2012 - 12:01 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    And by the way, why did you so rudely upbraid good people on this site for using the term N*zi, when your boy Rockwell Lincoln used it in his own party?

    I have already said that George Lincoln Rockwell’s approach had major flaws. Basically he was playing up to Hollywood stereotypes because he knew that it would provoke a strong emotional response and publicity.

    This was a mistake on his part and I prefer not to repeat it. In “Our Weapon, The Truth” I advocate an appeal to reason.

    Basically you have been on here trying to drag me back into Rockwell’s mistake by invoking that same Hollywood propaganda over and over, apparently deliberately trying to make rational discourse difficult. That’s why I asked Professor MacDonald to regulate use of that n-word because it was being used (by you and one or two others) to jam rational discourse. Professor MacDonald thought it was a reasonable suggestion. (I noticed a couple of days later that the State of Israel was considering censorship of this kind of rhetoric for exactly the same reason.)

    Rockwell changed the name of his organization to National-Socialist White People’s Party at the end of 1966, marking what was intended to be the beginning of a more serious phase. After Rockwell’s death, however, the organization failed to progress and lapsed back into its earlier phase of publicity-seeking antics. I have a copy of a letter that Dr. Pierce wrote in 1971 complaining about this.

  14. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 14, 2012 - 11:27 pm | Permalink
  15. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 10:55 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: What does that statement even mean? I’ve taken more heat than a cardboard N*zis like you could possibly stand. All you are offering is the failed strategy of a dead freak like Lincoln Rockwell, a rodeo clown that set the cause of White interests back a generation. Your demonstration of pretend arrogance is just show to hide your inability to articulate a position or deal with questions or enter into any dialogue with anyone on this site, certainly not just me.

    And by the way, why did you so rudely upbraid good people on this site for using the term N*zi, when your boy Rockwell Lincoln used it in his own party? If you thought it was time to avoid use of the term, fine, but you should have made an argument that showed a minimum of respect for the people you were addressing, people who are well-motivated and want to help Whites. But no, you put on your pretend show of arrogance and talk down to them.

    You are not Adolf Hitler, nor will you ever be. You don’t get to expound in one-sided monologues without ever being questioned. And questions are not a threat, by the way, they are a way of examining an issue. And to accuse me of courting public opinion, when I have had to endure abuse from low IQ Hard Men of White Nationalism™ for over a year is ridiculous.

    I repeat: You are not Adolf Hitler. You do not get to expound unchallenged. You are not even Lincoln Rockwell.

  16. February 14, 2012 - 10:17 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    You are not going to “convince” black leaders of any such thing, without them being paid off, which is how it has worked for the last 100 yeaars.

    I doubt that you believe in convincing anybody of anything. Your comments on this blog are permeated with the influence of the breeze-blown moistened finger.

  17. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 9:52 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: I know, it is so sad to see all those good White people be so naive, be taken advantage of, even to the point of losing their sons for the sake of people that hate them. Yes, I think black churches are basically a con. I mean, on some level the followers believe it, but they are all so very corrupt. Any community where 75% of dads walk away from their kids, is not a serious population.

  18. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 9:47 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: You are not going to “convince” black leaders of any such thing, without them being paid off, which is how it has worked for the last 100 yeaars. We are talking about a race in which 75% of fathers walk away from their own children. How in the world are you going to get them to care about something as abstract as “their race”, when they 3/4 don’t care about their sons and daughters.

  19. Bohemianh's Gravatar Bohemianh
    February 14, 2012 - 8:31 pm | Permalink

    The Montana homeland is a farce, my firend went up there only to find a Jerry Springer types. Not serious Aryan Homeland builders. I agree withthe adl splc fundraising comments and FBI types are trying to create another Randy Weaver type event, due to our image has really changed now. We are much more what William Pierce RIP had in mind serious, traditional people not he skinhead freakshows that inhabit many jails and prisions. This fact scares the hellout of the multicultural lefties. Slowing legally we can turn our fortunes around!

  20. February 14, 2012 - 7:57 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: You said this:

    The State is now defining “terrorism” very broadly indeed- to include Constitutionalists and survivalists.

    That is false. The booklet to which you refer, Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism—Terms and Concepts does not say that constitutionalists and survivalists are terrorists as you and some others have been claiming.

    Rand Paul didn’t go quite that far; he said that the book identifies such people as “potential terrorists,” but I don’t think it even does that explicitly.

    What does, as a glossary of terms, is engage in implicit profiling through its selection of terms. There is some blatant bias in the booklet, like the description of Christian Identity as “hate-filled” and the (I believe) false claim that CI dominates the leadership of the far right. I notice that some of the information was already out of date in 2005. It’s a shoddy piece of work. In any case that booklet, which was dated September 2005-2009, is no longer available from the Bureau of Justice Assistance. All the hoopla about that booklet from Alex Jones et al. is a day late and a dollar short.

  21. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 14, 2012 - 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Watch above Youtube by Senator Paul. Having more than seven days of food makes one a suspect!

  22. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 14, 2012 - 1:03 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXWO83CPkA

    From “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism” (DOJ, available PDF)- terms that imply extremism::

    Constitutionalists: A generic term for members of the “patriot” movement. It is now often used to refer to members of the sovereign citizen or common law court movement. Sometimes the word “constitutionist” is also used.

    Survivalists: The survivalist movement feared a coming collapse of civilization, generally as the result of nuclear war, and tried to prepare themselves to survive it. Survivalists typically stockpiled food, water, and weapons, especially the latter, and instructed themselves on topics ranging from first aid to childbirth to edible plants.

  23. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 14, 2012 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I certainly notice it, because we pray for their sons every week in church. I don’t have the heart to tell my friends that their sons are being used as pawns for Israel’s wars, fighting for a group of people that believes they are superior to us.
    I am going to try and pray out loud that Israel doesn’t attack Iran, and bring us to another war and more of our sons deaths. Maybe I will pray for peace in the Middle East. I will get back with you after Sunday.
    By the way, I have often thought that many a black church is a thinly disguised political organization with fire insurance as a bonus.

  24. February 14, 2012 - 8:38 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    I meant that they have no real interest in living in a separate nation from us, for economic reasons. Now, you seem to be proposing an alliance in which both races remain part of the same country, both cohabiting inside the US?

    This is just the way it is. We are here and they are here. Immigration is the factor that can be changed. As the country goes downhill and as Whites lose influence, it will be very bad for Blacks. Therefore it would be logical for Blacks to support a policy that avoids that. Any planning beyond that is premature.

    Now, as far as buying off preachers, yes, politicians have done that in the black community for generations.

    I said not one word about buying anybody. I said convince. You are too cynical.

  25. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    When I say Mestizos and Blacks have an interest in ganging up on Whites, let me be more. I agree, they have no reason to fear us, and I support anything that will encourage people to understand WN is not about harming other races.

    I meant that they have no real interest in living in a separate nation from us, for economic reasons. Now, you seem to be proposing an alliance in which both races remain part of the same country, both cohabiting inside the US?

    If so, would both races be allowed to live in separate neighborhoods, even cities? I can see a program working for a while as long as there is substantial regular transfer of assets to Black people to keep them from living in poverty (think Detroit). The problem is how is that much different from now, except with the right of more living space for Whites?

    Why would Blacks have any motivation for a setup like that? They seem to love coming to our living areas and they are getting assets transferred to them from Whites already. Is it that the program we put in place would improve their economic lives so much? I have doubts – I think Black IQ and ethnic traits make that very unlikely. Blacks are not poorer than Whites due bad economic policy so much as the factors I mentioned.

    So, I don’t see that it really is in the interest of Blacks and Mestizos to join us, because what really makes their lives better is income transfers from Whites – partly through gov’t programs, partly from just being here. Why would they want to change that?

    Now, as far as buying off preachers, yes, politicians have done that in the black community for generations. I assume that preachers would sell themselves to the GOP if the price was high enough – I can only assume the preachers feel they would be thrown from the church if they did so, because surely the GOP has as much “walking around” money as the Dems.

  26. February 14, 2012 - 7:39 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    The problem is, both Mestizos and Blacks have an interest in ganging up on Whites.

    Absolutely false so far as the practical interests of Blacks are concerned, for several reasons — unless we are planning to do something very disagreeable to the Blacks at the first opportunity, but I don’t think we ought to be thinking that way. Our intention ought to be to try to deal amicably with Blacks for mutual benefit so far as possible, since they and we are stuck in the same society for the foreseeable future.

    The way to get Blacks on board with a political agenda is to convince their preachers. You will see the Democrats talking to Black church-congregations and meeting with Black preachers, while the boneheaded Republicans put their hopes in Black professors of economics, which have no congregations, to try to convince Blacks to support an economic agenda that is bad for them on its face.

  27. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 7:09 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    It’s true that in a multiracial society, some compromises (at least in the short run) may be necessary to promote an agenda. It’s not so much the theory of getting Black support for our cause that’s the problem, it is the factual reality that it’s been proven to be fruitless. And indeed an analysis makes it clear why.

    American Blacks have no interest in being separated, at least nationally, from Whites. On some level, they are quite aware they will live like Haitians within a few years of separation – why would they want that? No group of Black Muslim Bully Boys has any chance of forcing that on the larger Black population.

    Beyond that, I would caution that aligning ourselves with Black Nationalists runs the risk of seriously damaging our reputation and social prestige (not that we have a lot). Black Muslims are seen as a joke by White Americans.

    The problem is, both Mestizos and Blacks have an interest in ganging up on Whites. What’s in it for them to help us out? There are no great options, but the best approach may be the so-called Sailer Strategy – get more Whites to vote for the same party. Right now, about 60% vote GOP. By putting forward policies that appeal to 75% of Whites, a party might be able to win national elections again. Asians seem 50/50 but don’t vote that heavily and neither to Mestizos. Increasing the percentage of White votes may be the best alternative. It would require taking the current “conservative” base of the GOP and marrying it with working class issues that primarily help White working class. Both sides would have to compromise but I suspect they will be more willing to do so in the future.

  28. February 14, 2012 - 6:38 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Rockwell’s approach in retrospect had major flaws and he had unrealistic expectations. But if winning elections was and is the answer then finding common ground with Blacks to the extent possible is the logical thing to do. In this electoral system if you don’t have a majority of votes, you don’t have anything.

  29. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 14, 2012 - 6:12 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: What was the name of the party George Lincoln Rockwell belonged to? What did ANP stand for?

    Not only did Rockwell welcome black votes, he attended Black Nationalist rallies and gave donations to them. How did that strategy work as far as promoting White interests? That was back in the early 1960s. After 50 years, can we try something else?

  30. February 14, 2012 - 5:46 am | Permalink

    @Doug:

    Forget about alliances with Blacks and Mexicans, et al. That’s loser thinking.

    The Blacks actually have a lot of common interest with us against the Mexicans. A USA no longer dominated by White people will be much worse place for Blacks. If anybody is really serious about winning elections then Black votes are as good as anybody’s. George Lincoln Rockwell ran for Governor of Virginia and hoped to be elected President of the United States in 1972: he wasn’t above wooing Black support. If American Third Position really is a political party that expects to win elections then it should not overlook whatever can be gained that way.

  31. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 13, 2012 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Mike;
    “The Northwest Homeland is a pipe dream”
    Agreed. Separation will happen, if it does, as a NATURAL consequence of people learning what is healthy and what isn’t. The Jews understand this fundamental fact, that’s why they are desperately trying to maintain their cultural identity by building walls between themselves and the Palestinians. AND THE PALESTINIANS ARE SEMITES! just like the Jews. Can you imagine their reaction if the Palestinians were BLACK!

  32. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 13, 2012 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: I wonder if Christian White people from the South are noticing that is overwhelmingly their sons that have died over the last decade. They make up the bulk of the special forces and are the best soldiers in every branch. Yet, they don’t get the rewards they deserve.

  33. Doug's Gravatar Doug
    February 13, 2012 - 11:28 pm | Permalink

    @Mike:

    Mike, you are so right: “Only a change of mind will save our kind.”

    More power to the White enclaves, but we have to think bigger than that. We have to once more become preeminent in national power. Forget about alliances with Blacks and Mexicans, et al. That’s loser thinking.

  34. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 13, 2012 - 11:23 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Speaking of rising levels of racial tension in the military, many moons ago I quit ROTC at my college because of the ridiculous affirmative action promotions that were going on. I knew I had no place in such a system where I would one day have to be willing to put my life on the line for a country I once loved under the command of someone there because he wasn’t white. If I had stayed, it would have been as a stealth revolutionary, hoping to find like minded others rising through the ranks to overthrow our oppressors in a military coup. Gee, I wonder if others think the same way….that would be terrible….

  35. February 13, 2012 - 10:37 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    The State is now defining “terrorism” very broadly indeed- to include Constitutionalists and survivalists.

    Completely false. Stop listening to Alex Jones.

  36. Henry Baxley's Gravatar Henry Baxley
    February 13, 2012 - 6:14 pm | Permalink

    A white would be nice if it were a healthy home, with healthy laws, etc. Unfortunately, Those who move there will take with them the same false Gods that killed the last homeland. Namely, Love of “Democracy” (government of the lowest common denominator) “Feminism” (the transfer of political power from men to women) And “equality”, which comes as an added bonus when you buy “Democracy”
    If your house is infested with bugs, it does no good to move because you are taking the bugs with you.
    How many of these would be pioneers will carry the seeds of their own destruction along?
    How many are loyal republicans? (bug)
    How many are Christian? (bug)
    How many believe in one person one vote? (bug)
    On the other hand;
    How many are supporters of Ron Paul?
    How many denounce the current system (Democracy) as totally corrupt and would favor a Constitutional Convention to rewrite the laws.
    How many believe in a Hierarchial system over a democratic one.
    My guess would be plenty of the former and not many of the latter, in which case, a white homeland will accomplish very little, except maybe getting a bunch of people killed trying to defend its sovereignty with AK 47s

  37. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 13, 2012 - 2:57 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    “I want to acknowledge that the comment section is loading much faster today.”

    Ditto.

    Thanks for confirming that the comments are loading faster for everyone. At first I did not know if it was just me.

    Thanks to The Occidental Observer for shortening the amount of time it takes for long comment threads to load. Like I mentioned in a previous comment, I did not mind waiting a little longer for the comments to load, but the new improvement is still appreciated.

  38. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 13, 2012 - 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Dissidents and psychiatry:

    http://tinyurl.com/6olfdzr

  39. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 13, 2012 - 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Luke 2-11 10:45 am.

    The State is now defining “terrorism” very broadly indeed- to include Constitutionalists and survivalists. Why wouldn’t opposition to NWO etc. be defined as mental illness? Many sophisticates here seem not to know about Soviet “psychiatry” where dissidents were called insane. Have you not heard of Thomas Szasz? Someone was dragged into court and said “I don’t recognize the legitimacy of this court” and was ordered into mental-health treatment. Imagine the English diagnosing the Founders as “mentally ill” for refusing to suck up to the Crown!

  40. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 12, 2012 - 10:51 pm | Permalink

    @Bill: Whites have to explore all their options. I have seen Whites – generally older ones – tragically remain in neighborhoods that have crossed a tipping point racially, and become trapped in a hostile environment. They live out their lives huddled in a small home, surrounded by threatening blacks and Mestizos.

    So, I don’t think there is anything wrong with Whites gathering together and trying to live together. Of course, there are limits to “White flight”. But at the moment, when so very few Whites feel comfortable discussing race, it’s not remotely possible to make any kind of dramatic political stand. All we can do is hope a sizable number of Whites become open to their own racial survival. Then we’ll have more options.

  41. Bill's Gravatar Bill
    February 12, 2012 - 10:02 pm | Permalink

    This homeland business is just what whites do, they run, they leave, they turn the other cheek.

    It is time to make a stand. It is time to stand up and fight through channels that can create change. It is time to challenge the powers that run this country.

    We give our allegiance to the Republican Party and they have done nothing to protect our interest, they have signed onto abortion, affirmative action, immigration, not standing for the Republican base which is white Americans.

    Everything the blacks have achieved they have done so politically. It is time that white America stop running and make our political parties respect our civil rights.

    Running is not the answer. Make a stand politically.

  42. February 12, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    We have no other problems.

    Rubbish. There is also a nitwit problem. Kendall is right about that.

  43. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 12, 2012 - 7:02 pm | Permalink

    “I want to acknowledge that the comment section is loading much faster today.”

    Ditto.

    We have two problems, each involving monopoly.

    1) Money
    2) Information

    We have no other problems. Smash these monopolies and we are free.

  44. February 12, 2012 - 6:05 pm | Permalink

    agree@Ward Kendall: Again you are making sweeping generalizations based on egregious examples, some of them certainly rather old. I can’t even remember the last time I heard of a Klan event where the traditional costumes were worn. And this is supposed to be how we are defeating ourselves? No, I don’t think so.

    Who is this “we” anyway? If you really want to do something about the few that cause embarrassment for the rest of us, the first step is to be specific. Who is doing what, and why is it counterproductive? That way if these people cannot be persuaded to correct their behavior, the rational ones among us can at least distance ourselves from them.

    As for what the mass-media will do with the behavior of a few irresponsible characters (or agents provocateurs) that represent themselves as being on our side, none of us can control that.

    Your blanket generalization about how “we” create “our” image is just useless.

    I don’t see image as our biggest problem anyway. Our biggest problem is lack of leadership and organization. When the racialist cause is essentially a disorganized mob, there is a big tendency to be drawn hither and thither by one delusion after another, with the result that a lot of the potential for accomplishing things is wasted. And of course, the vacuum of leadership and organization also allows anybody that talks louder than the rest to appear to be the leader at the moment. It’s really a dangerous situation.

  45. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 12, 2012 - 4:41 pm | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall: Who created “hate-core” music? WE did, and the Jews just smiled and put it out on display. The revulsion against us was our doing – no one elses.

    Great point.

    Massive, clunky, Nazi marches in mismatched uniforms and pot-bellied mini-Fuerhers storming town hall? Hey, OUR doing again.

    This is funny. I recently saw an RT video in which they were predisposed to listen to a group of people concerned with the lose of White rights, but the group in question were such tatted up, beer-bellied clowns, shouting slogans over and over, that even RT couldn’t take them seriously. Another opportunity lost.

  46. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 12, 2012 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Thanks, it seems like there are two main forces at work:

    1. Many Whites are moving into White enclaves without explicit racial awareness (middle to upper middle class Whites self-segregating, along with Asians).

    2. Whites (at least on the internet) who are becoming explicitly aware of racial realities.

    3. The continuing long term threat of slow miscegenation. This is not happening in significant numbers with Whites and Blacks from I can see (although there is a small number of White women with poor prospects that wind up with black man). Most of the miscegenation is actually with Mestizos from what I can see. Most Whites marry and have babies with Whites, so there is still time, but over the generations this would be perhaps the greatest threat: We become Brazil.

    In the long run, the second force is most important, because I think number 3 overwhelms all of them over the course of 100 years. So, all we can do is find enough Whites who wish to be saved as Whites.

  47. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 12, 2012 - 3:11 pm | Permalink

    I want to acknowledge that the comment section is loading much faster today.

    Maybe The Occidental Observer improved something for its readers. If so, thanks. I didn’t really mind waiting a little longer for comments to load — they are usually worth it. But it is nice when they load fast.

    @Jason Speaks:

    It seems like there may be more people slowly becoming interested in White interests.

    Let’s hope so. A part of me thinks it is inevitable. More people seem to be getting their information/entertainment from the internet instead of standard television. That’s a good thing. The internet changes everything.

    Even though much of the internet is dominated by the classic propaganda, there are thousands, if not millions, of independent writers and video bloggers and commenters.

    Thanks for your contribution, Jason. I get the feeling that you and others who visit The Occidental Observer really care about White people. Some of your comments are very insightful and helpful to me; once in a while I find myself in total agreement with what you write. (Not that agreement is the most important thing, but it is enjoyable.)

    Have a good Sunday, all.

  48. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 12, 2012 - 12:52 pm | Permalink

    @Mike: I have read a number of what appeared to be fairly well-researched articles that have discussed the rising levels of racial tension within the ranks of the US military, Brother Mike. The efforts by our anti-white ruling elites to promote blacks and other minorities who have less attractive qualifications for promotions than do far better qualified whites is not something that is restricted to the private sector. This is also happening in the military, and one of the reasons that I think our anti-white elites are doing this – is because they have an awareness of the rising racial tension and if they ever decide to use the military against the White American population, they don’t feel that they can count on a sufficient number of White soldiers to shoot and kill their fellow White Americans. White military people may not be courageous enough to openly complain about racial discrimination against them, but rest assured, they are aware of it when it happens – and just like Whites in the private sector, they resent it and are extremely angry about it. This is a blessing for White race realists.

    Pierce and Covington and a few other writers have used this basic theme in their fictional novels that deal with the coming battle for White European survival. In their books, the ZOG controlled military is heavily staffed by blacks, mestizos, homosexuals and lesbians and by mixed race products of white miscegenation. I have often wondered if perhaps the jews haven’t read some our pro-White resistance books and used them to guide some of their decisions, because it looks as if the same scripts described by Pierce and Covington are being followed by the enemy forces who are lusting for White genocide.

    At any rate, I’d be fairly confident in predicting that the US military is going to fracture along racial lines, if we ever do reach the fabled SHTF Day. Sure, there will be the rap music addicted, baggy panted, ghetto tattooed white racial trash who’ll be presented with an extreme identity crisis and due to their self-loathing for their own race, they’ll probably beg to join in with the ZOG terror machine. But, my instincts tell me that most of the White men in the military will not follow orders to shoot their own cousins and racial brothers – because by that time, White racial awakening will very likely be at epidemic levels across what’s left of White America.

    It is our job, in the interim, to make sure we plant the seeds of White racial awakening and remember to pour lots of Miracle Gro on those seeds.

  49. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    February 11, 2012 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ve never been enticed by Covington’s Northwest plan, nor can I imagine that all by itself it would ever interest my children or grandchildren.

    Today I took a fresh look at McCullough’s Racial Partition Map. My first reaction was to laugh; it so clearly moves THEM away from US, whereas other plans seek to move US away from THEM.

    I thought, why not continue the line Eastward across the northern border of Louisiana to the southernmost tip of South Carolina, and color everything below that Blue.

    I had forgotten about this and
    this (scroll down to Significant Jewish population centers).

    The Atlantic Seaboard, which McCullough wants to keep in the hands of European Whites, is littered with the heaviest concentrations of American Jews, from Greater Boston (235,000) down through CT, NYC (well over 2,000,000), Long Island, northern NJ and the Baltimore-DC area (250,000) — I’m sure the actual numbers are higher, and the wealth and power is immense.

    I agreed with fender’s earlier suggestion, that Iceland, Greenland, or Alaska present a more desirable degree of separation than one or more U.S. states. And yet . . maybe we could — like the carefully planned and organized Libertarian migration to New Hampshire with the stated goal of influencing policy in their favor — organize a similar migration to the entire one or two northernmost tiers of American states including VT, NH, and Maine, with the eventual goal of joining ourselves to Canada? Relocating Chicago’s and Canada’s Jews (250,000 and 335,000 respectively) seems much less formidable than stealing power that’s entrenched in America’s East and West coast Jews. As I see it, even if a secession or partition plan should miraculously succeed, it would only be a partial solution. European-Whites would still be struggling with the problem of Jewish control.

  50. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 9:02 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Well put. It seems like there may be more people slowly becoming interested in White interests.

  51. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 11, 2012 - 8:16 pm | Permalink

    There is something so good about the comments above. It’s amazing. Different people coming to together, looking at the same object, and sharing their thoughts. In this case the object is the article, and the issues underlying the article. And sub-objects are the comments, which people read and respond to. (I’m not sure sub-objects is a real word.)

    I was thinking how fortunate we are to have the internet. In some ways humans have abused the good potential of the internet; people slander other people, some people use the internet for porn, others (like the mainstream media) use it to brainwash their audience, etc.

    But there is so much good potential. A universe of good things. We can be creative in reaching out to others, spreading the truth. (Hopefully people use an appropriate amount of discretion.)

    Thanks to everyone who serves White people. I know that a lot of TOO commenters (and contributors) have their own separate blogs. Some people write the “anti-racist” mantra on different websites. Others participate in the Northwest movement. Some people donate money. And some “just” visit and educate themselves… that’s important too. Everything matters.

    I want to apologize if anything in my comment is not helpful or something like that.

    Have a good weekend, all. Thanks to everyone who cares about White people.

  52. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    February 11, 2012 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

    The North-West homeland is a pipe-dream! ZOG will sinply send diversity to any avowed White enlave. ZOG has the big money and the big guns, and will use them to destroy ALL AND ANY White rebel upstart communities.
    Without political power, we are NOTHING! White flight is a temporary solution, only. And just for those who have the means to afford it!
    ZOG IS insane and evil enough to use military force against people whom it considers to be domestic wrong-doers; you can take that to the bank!

  53. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 7:32 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Thanks, Alice. You too, have a great weekend. And thanks for the calming effect and giving me an opening to apologize to Gregor.

    @>–>–>——

  54. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 11, 2012 - 7:14 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: @blue rose:
    It is not always easy to communicate here. I have made the same mistake. I’m still working on getting a single post in without a typo! I swear this screen has pixies. I hope you both have a lovely weekend.

  55. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 6:50 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I don’t think Gregor intended to be rude. …I certainly agree with you that we should all take more care to address each other more respectfully. It seems to me that we are in far more danger of appearing to be irrational, hateful souls in our comments, than in any novel we might promote. If we cannot bring ourselves to be civil to each other, why should anyone else want to join us.

    You are right, Alice. My apologies to Gregor for my jumping the gun. As I continued on reading all the interesting posts, I began to feel guilty that with my first post I had to throw in a monkey wrench of negativity, whereas I could have just as easily overlooked a perceived attack (even if he meant it, so what, after all?)

    I’m sorry Gregor. Sorry about that.

  56. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 11, 2012 - 6:29 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I don’t think Gregor intended to be rude. It seems to be a function of comments section that we begin by addressing one person and wind of expressing our frustration at others. I do not mean to speak for him, but Gregor has, quite rightly, urged us all to stop talking and take action, for some time now. I’m afraid that it is a reminder that I, at least, need from time to time.

    I was going to write something very similar.

    Online communication is an important skill.

    Sometimes I will reply to someone and copy and paste something they wrote, and I’ll respond. Then at some point, without stating it, my comment will be addressed to everyone in general, not merely the person to whom I’m replying.

    Have a good weekend Mrs. Teller and anyone else who is reading this.

  57. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 5:59 pm | Permalink

    @Luke:

    @blue rose: I’ll do my best to sanitize what can only be described as a totally unsanitary, nauseating, vomit provoking account of how Klum latched onto her negro Seal. This will be a challenge.

    Harumph. Yes, that *is* a nauseating account all right, and as far as I’m concerned, she tells a totally false tale.

    Though I’ve lost the link, I use to read a website that dealt with the lifestyles of celebrities and other people in high places, that showed how their world is inescapable from the world of drugs, sexual use and sexual slavery — but all done in higher places. The players in this unseen world range from politicians in high places, to the lowest drug dealer, whatever. The website featured actual pictures of the celebrities, and showed who was with who, etc.

    Given Klum’s background and eventual access to worlds unseen and unknown by the average person, and experiences few have, people she met — all prior to her Seal connection — she had a fabulous thing going for her. So I found it hard to understand why such a privileged white woman suddenly have some sort of an attraction to some hip hop artist — taking into account the life she could have had if she didn’t hook up with this person.

    The modeling industry, according to that website, is rife for sexual training for use by men. Drugs are involved too. It starts out some model is targeted, given attention, some doors open, drugs are introduced. Then the woman slowly begins not to even know her own mind. A set up is made at a party or in Klum’s case at a ski resort — a black celebrity is introduced and he sidles on up to her with some smooth talk. Those working her, encourage her gee he really likes you kind of thing.

    In short, it is said this world is connected to things called the ‘Illuminati’ — just for lack of another word to describe this world. You can look for the ‘Illuminati’ at work when one sees Freemasonic symbols placed anywhere. One sees this everywhere in hip hop videos — and that Madonna Super Bowl show she put on.

    I think Klum was just another victim of this world. I’ll bet she was handed her share of drugs – and the rest was history — 3 black kids and one lone white child from a previous marriage. It’s all very seedy what goes on. But that’s the world celebrities are able to afford, and there’s always someone supplying the drugs.

  58. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Fender: “Our image is filtered through the media before it ever reaches the minds of the goyim at large.”

    Here’s where I disagree: I contend that our own pro-white groups and organizations have largely been responsible for creating the negative image the white American public has of them – and not the Jews. In other words, we baked it – and the Jewish media merely put it out for sale.

    Who created “hate-core” music? WE did, and the Jews just smiled and put it out on display. The revulsion against us was our doing – no one elses.

    Massive, clunky, Nazi marches in mismatched uniforms and pot-bellied mini-Fuerhers storming town hall? Hey, OUR doing again. The Jews just smiled and dished out to the white American public what WE cooked. Again, it was WE who created that “image” – not the Jews.

    Marching lines of colorful cone-heads straight out of Saturday Night Live in the gayest shades of white, red, green, purple, and yellow – all under the KKK banner? We made our Cause look like a Trix parade on steroids. Again, OUR doing. All the Jews did was photograph away and then insert the pictures into the Sunday newspaper. The laughter and derision against white survivalists was OUR fault – not the Jews.

    WE create our image. And if that image has shown us up as a collection of clowns and buffoons and swastikaed maniacs ready for the nearest loony-bin, it’s a cop-out to “blame the Jews” for shooting us, when it was we who gave them the gun to do it with.

    A New Era of white progress and racial self-preservation awaits us, if we stop blaming others for our failures, and start instead to build the future, with the truth that is ours.

  59. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Jason Speaks: “@Armor: OK, so again, I am hearing that Irving challenges the Holocaust, and then I hear that he never challenged it, and sometimes I hear that he used to challenge it but now accepts it.”

    I’m confused over the David Irving question myself. I mean, what does an Englishman writing about German history have to do with preserving and advancing white Americans? I’ve never been able to decipher the connection. Are Irving’s books helping to stop the flow of Mexicans into this country? Do his books alert Americans about the corrupt political system in present-day Washington? Is Irving contributing the proceeds of his books to white nationalism? For the life of me, where is the connection?

  60. February 11, 2012 - 5:38 pm | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall:

    My comments about Mr. C-v-ngt-n’s novels were not intended as a negative statement against his literary works. Violent events are frequently depicted in countless novels, as you know.

    You seem to be walking a tightrope here and trying to say something and not say it at the same time. You seem to be unfairly criticizing an entire milieu in order to avoid conflict with a particular person who is manifestly the real and proper target of the criticism.

    Likewise when you say that it was not your idea to put HAC’s endorsement on the cover of your book, you are avoiding the question that I posed, which is whether you are going to ask that it be removed.

    I appreciated the fact that the LA Times did not mention HAC. Maybe they recognize what you don’t want to say, which is that he is a fringe-figure in WN.

  61. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 11, 2012 - 5:30 pm | Permalink

    @george wells:
    Wonderful. Thanks.

  62. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 11, 2012 - 5:26 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:
    I don’t think Gregor intended to be rude. It seems to be a function of comments section that we begin by addressing one person and wind of expressing our frustration at others. I do not mean to speak for him, but Gregor has, quite rightly, urged us all to stop talking and take action, for some time now. I’m afraid that it is a reminder that I, at least, need from time to time.

    I certainly agree with you that we should all take more care to address each other more respectfully. It seems to me that we are in far more danger of appearing to be irrational, hateful souls in our comments, than in any novel we might promote. If we cannot bring ourselves to be civil to each other, why should anyone else want to join us.

  63. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

    @Armor: OK, so again, I am hearing that Irving challenges the Holocaust, and then I hear that he never challenged it, and sometimes I hear that he used to challenge it but now accepts it.

  64. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 5:02 pm | Permalink

    @Solly:

    If a Rh – mom carries a Rh + baby (factor inherited from father), she may form antibodies to her child’s red blood cells and destroy them, causing harm to the baby ranging from mild to lethal. So, in a sense, being Rh – is a liability in certain situations! Soooooooo – the next time someone tries to tell you his/her ethnic group is especially blue-blooded and noble because it has a high percentage of Rh – people, tell them you know better…..

    Thanks for response. It’s a thought, and I’ll copy/paste for future use.

    But it seems to me that RH- is a means to keeping a bloodline pure. That Celtic guy had me convinced the Celts had the purest bloodline since Celtic women who have RH- (meaning those that don’t throw their Heritage away) only mate with Celtic RH- males. The idea sounded plausible to me.

    OTOH, the only evidence so far that I’ve read was from a TOQ poster on another blog. He said the Jews that wandered in the desert for 40 years, weeded out the RH+ until the remnant made up of only the RH-, which became the sacred bloodline, most especially that bloodline that became the kingly bloodline, later the monarchies. Another plausible idea how the notion of why monarchies are considered ‘sacred’, and explains why the Jews from ancient times on have had and still do have such intense interest in ‘blood’.

    However, thinking about all this, the ancient Hebrews would have had no ideas of RH- or RH+, yet their god yahweh did tell them to keep themselves a separate nation (which turned out well for them).

    But anyway, it is an interest of mine, and it is off-topic, so I’ll just go with your explanation. Thanks.

  65. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 4:36 pm | Permalink

    @george wells:

    So little racism, so much anti-racism. Anti-racists need a lot of racism to justify their anti-white bias and hatreds.

    Those two sentences fit very nicely as memes. The last sentence goes very well with the one that says: Anti-racism is a code word for anti-white.

    I hope you don’t mind if I use your two sentences in future.

    So little racism, so much anti-racism is amusing. I’ll keep that one as well.

  66. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 4:30 pm | Permalink

    @Gregor:

    @blue rose: I’ll make it really easy for ya Blue Rose (and everyone else here who wants to do more than whine about the JQ) ….

    Don’t mean to be rude here folks, but as you see Gregor has just accused me of ‘whining’, and I certainly have not been ‘whining’, I won’t say what I’d REALLY like to say to him:

    So….Gregor, if I’ve been ‘whining’, then what the hell are you and the rest of you doing? You know what you can do with your POS link.

  67. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    February 11, 2012 - 3:56 pm | Permalink

    LATimes: “David Irving, an internationally known writer who challenges the Holocaust, and Paul Fromm, a well-known Canadian white supremacist.”

    It is possible to challenge the holocaust story told by the Jews, but you can not challenge the holocaust itself, as if you were challenging it to a duel. Jewish supremacists unfortunately do not care about the proper use of words!

  68. Farnham O'Reilly's Gravatar Farnham O'Reilly
    February 11, 2012 - 3:54 pm | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall: Yes, you’re right, Ward.

    But still, even if Mr. Covington never wrote his delightful Quartet, the Enemy would still find SOMETHING to hit us with. Heck, if nothing else, they could just tell lies (which they are very, very good at), dredge up more Holocost, er Holycost… darn, it’s Holyhoax, no… HOLOCAUST stories, or even write a spurious book themselves (they have the media to make it stick).

    I think in the long run the more negative media coverage is given to the Quartet, the more it will backfire on them, since the Quartet is one of those things that everyone will deplore in public but will immensely enjoy in private.

    As we all learned in Tom Sawyer, the best way to make someone want something is to tell them they shouldn’t have it, and shouldn’t like it.

  69. george wells's Gravatar george wells
    February 11, 2012 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

    White racism and other urban legends.
    DEFINITION:An urban legend, urban myth, urban tale, or contemporary legend, is a form of modern folklore consisting of stories that may or may not have been believed by their tellers to be true. As with all folklore and mythology, the designation suggests nothing about the story’s veracity, but merely that it is in circulation, exhibits variation over time, and carries some significance that motivates the community in preserving and propagating it.
    So little racism, so much anti-racism. Anti-racists need a lot of racism to justify their anti-white bias and hatreds. They must find racism where it does not exist. Its just about controlling and manipulating white people and supporting the ongoing program of white genocide.
    Anti-racists confuse their opinions with reality.

  70. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Jason Speaks: “I don’t get why so many WN like to associate with this blood splattered, bone crushing, bullet ridden, survivalist fantasy stuff. First off, it is never going to happen.”

    As I mentioned to another poster, my original comments were not intended as negative criticisms of Mr. Covington’s novels, but merely a way of citing why our enemies can point fingers at our side and screech, “Look! Told ya! There thinkin’ of making bombs and killling Federal troops! It’s all right there in those Northwest Quartet novels!”

    Hey, it does say those things. And when you write a New York Times hit piece all you need to do is take a quote or two from those books and toss it into the gullible faces of the white American public. Bingo – our own words have now been used to smear us as home-grown, in-your-own-backyard terrorists.

    Even so, we should not shrink from our own words, but stand by them. That is why propaganda pieces by the LA Times shouldn’t bother us. Amuse us, perhaps. Elicit a chuckle or two. But that’s about it.

  71. ethnonationalism's Gravatar ethnonationalism
    February 11, 2012 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

    A3P should promote, if not the creation of an independent Anglo-White state in North America, than at least Anglo-White autonomy in the USA.

    You should also support the secession of Quebec from Canada. Quebec is still by far the most ethnically and culturally homogeneous area in North America (about 80% of the population are French Catholics).
    I think that they need to get out of Canada as soon as possible.

    Secession of Quebec could open the Pandora’s box of ethnonationalism in North America.

  72. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Farnham O’Reilly: “Thanks, Ward, for your comments. All well taken. Still, and I hope this is not a disappointment to anyone out there, but all the WNs I know in the PNW (including myself) really aren’t bomb throwers. Most of us have firearms, but only for hunting (nonhumans). I personally went to bow and arrow before I gave up hunting altogether – didn’t like the noise guns make. All us WN up here like making a decent (if not sometimes skimpy) living, our families, good food, peace and quiet, and Nature and all She offers.

    My original post might have been misconstrued by some readers. I was not suggesting that most supporters of the Northwest migration project were wild-eyed bomb throwers but that books like the Northwest Quartet could be cited by our enemies and shown to the public at large that bomb-throwing might well be on our minds. That’s the point: that there is concrete evidence our enemies can point to that can be used to incite and enflame public opinion against us.

    My contention is that we shouldn’t pretend that there isn’t. We should never be seen as liars, or distorters of the truth, even when our enemies practice the same tactics.

  73. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    February 11, 2012 - 2:41 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: I’ll make it really easy for ya Blue Rose (and everyone else here who wants to do more than whine about the JQ) ….

    Goto the following link and copy/paste all the sections into a text file on your desktop. It’s a huge collection of “pre-fab” responses that are useful in SMACKING DOWN the anti-Whites and the anti-White narrative, wherever it raises its ugly head. This is a tool to USE, not discuss:

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/mini-mantras/#post-13762

  74. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Hadding: “My question to you is, since you obviously disapprove of Mr. Covington, are you going to ask Greg Johnson to omit Covington’s endorsement in future from the cover of your book?”

    My comments about Mr. Covington’s novels were not intended as a negative statement against his literary works. Violent events are frequently depicted in countless novels, as you know. I mention Covington’s Northwest Quartet only to illustrate that there is evidence within our own camp that the general public could point to – evidence indicating that “bomb throwing” might well be on our minds, thus lending credence that some of us might well be closet terrorists.

    As for Covington’s quote on my novel, I had nothing to do with that. It was the publisher who designed the cover, along with the addition of various quotations.

  75. Solly's Gravatar Solly
    February 11, 2012 - 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, Blue Rose 11/2 12:44 am, not 12/2

  76. Solly's Gravatar Solly
    February 11, 2012 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    To Blue Rose 12:44 am 12/2 re Rh factor. There’s no superiority or inferiority to being Rh negative, whether in Celts, Jews, or any other group. If the membranes of your red blood cells have a certain molecule, you’re Rh +, if not, you’re Rh – . If a Rh – mom carries a Rh + baby (factor inherited from father), she may form antibodies to her child’s red blood cells and destroy them, causing harm to the baby ranging from mild to lethal. So, in a sense, being Rh – is a liability in certain situations! Soooooooo – the next time someone tries to tell you his/her ethnic group is especially blue-blooded and noble because it has a high percentage of Rh – people, tell them you know better…..

  77. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 11, 2012 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

    @Julian Curtis Lee: Mr Lee, you have a good idea about hitting them with numbers. It is hard for them to keep up with us all. I try for instance to only patronize white run establishments, avoid places that promote things I don’t like, avoid most television shows, and keeping up with all the people cramming their anti-white crap down my throat, but it isn’t easy. Since jews are busy raping and pillaging, they can’t possibly keep up with everyone brave enough to speak out, so cultural control is their only weapon. Numbers could break them.

  78. frambue's Gravatar frambue
    February 11, 2012 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    How will this future homeland defend its borders? what amrmaments will its armies have? will it have a nuclear arsenal and billions in annual income for its military?
    you do realize that its enemies are already salivating at the prospect of wiping them off the face of the earth, right?

  79. February 11, 2012 - 1:04 pm | Permalink

    @Jim: The subject of openness of our beliefs is something that has been on my mind too.The argument against it usualy is that people of WN would lose their jobs,would be ostracised,shun by friends and have to hide under pseudonyms .There is something demeaning and admiting defeat when we agree in our conscience to have firm set of beliefs but not strong enough to state them with open face and without blushing appologies to our enemies.They don’t make any obones about their outrageous convictions,destructive ideologies.They declared them politically correct without asking for permission simply because they are so used to being our Instructors while we are so used to keep meek silence and anonymity.Just imagine if we ALL would come out of the closets!!!

  80. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 11, 2012 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Brother Luke, you make excellent points. The indians who fought against us and lost “their” land (indians didn’t believe in land ownership, per se, as we understand it) had their shot, but we were pretty gentle victors and treated them to reservation after reservation that is treated as sovereign territory, foreign nations on US soil. They get to do all matter of stuff on their land that the US wouldn’t allow. I hope when or if we fight to the last dying breath, our surviving women and children and few men get land set aside and get treated as a nation where we make our own laws, have our own courts, and live according to our cultural and moral code. I feel more sorry for the white men cheated out of jobs, positions at universities, political appointments, loans, grants, scholarships, and liberty due to affirmative action than people who get rich (or at least a no work salary) off casinos and tax free cigarette sales, and guzzle massive amounts of alcohol as they sit around compaining about how much their life sucks on the rez because of the palefaces like me.
    Any white guy who tells me he feels sorry for the indians gets the following comment from me: “Why don’t you give them your land and house to make up for your sins?”
    Personally, I think some of those 40,000 SF jew owned mansions are also on stolen indian land, come to think of it!

  81. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    February 11, 2012 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald said: “But what is really terrifying to the multiculturalists is that the new settlers are being open about their beliefs.”

    This statement makes me think of an interesting paradox. Several years ago, I was acquainted with a rabbi who was moving to Boise to establish Idaho’s first synagogue (or so I was told). It sounded benign enough at the time, but I think there was more to it than that.

    He quickly became a columnist for the Idaho Statesman, his articles dealing mostly with jewishness, “tolerance”, environmentalism and advocacy for Israel. I found it odd that a religious figure who represents such miniscule portion of Idaho’s religious population (jews are “less than half a percent” – how much less, wiki doesn’t say) was given such a prominent voice in the community.

    Anyway, it seems to me that he’d be the textbook example of a “new settler being open about his beliefs.”

    Here’s his column:

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/08/1830606/rabbi-dan-fink-yom-kippur-reminds.html

  82. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 11, 2012 - 11:34 am | Permalink

    @mark: Yes, Brother Mark. I certainly can. Not to sound ‘sympathetic’ to the stolen piece of real estate that goes by the name ‘Israel’ – but, since I am an ethnic nationalist, I support ethno-nationalism for all races, including the jews. Israel provides a good example for our discussion of this topic, although I will drawn some very important distinctions before I proceed with my comment.

    Whites fought our competitors for the land in North America, shed many gallons of white blood and lost many white lives, before we finally prevailed and laid our claim to what would become the United States. I, unlike far too many disgusting, self-hating, self-loathing, guilt-ridden whites – do not feel a need to apologize for the military victories of my ancestors against their racial competitors. In fact, I cherish and admire those victories and I’m proud that Whites won those battles.

    Israel, on the other hand, did not send an army of colonizers or settlers into the Middle East, meet and defeat their ethnic competitors on a field of battle, shedding their own blood in the process – and then lay claim to ‘Israel’. Instead, they resorted to connivance and deceit and manipulation of White European nations – orchestrated two catastrophically destructive and dysgenic (for White Europeans) World Wars, which resulted in the horrible deaths of at least 100 million of our White European kinsmen and women, and then had the UK and USA basically steal a piece of land that belonged to neither of those nations and give it to the jews, so they could have a homeland. Whereupon, jewish terrorists then proceeded to attack and murder and terrorize the hapless and nearly defenseless Palestinian inhabitants and run them off their own property.

    At any rate, regarding the idea that Whites must be trained to fight and defend their White Ethnostate – when they find themselves surrounded by hostile non-white ethnostates on the same continent? This is where the Israel analogy comes into play. We will be in the same boat that the jews are in now; surrounded by hostile enemies who really don’t like us very much.

    Thus, Whites will need to be prepared to defend their piece of ground. And, make no mistake about it – race treason and racial betrayal by members of our own racial group must be dealt with in the most ruthless and conclusive fashion. We cannot allow enemies of our people’s survival to exist inside our homeland.

  83. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 11, 2012 - 11:03 am | Permalink

    @blue rose: I’ll do my best to sanitize what can only be described as a totally unsanitary, nauseating, vomit provoking account of how Klum latched onto her negro Seal. This will be a challenge.

    According to several accounts I’ve seen, Klum evidently gave an interview to some magazine reporter several years ago, and the subject of how she met Seal came up. She supposedly told the reporter that she first met Seal while staying in some fancy motel and he came strolling out of the exercise room, dripping sweat and wearing a pair of really skin tight spandex shorts that apparently appeared to be where he was storing & transporting a rather large cucumber, which I assume meant he had been grocery shopping just prior to his workout.

    Anyway, Heidi’s pants evidently ignited over that visual and the next thing the White world knows – we have another white genocide criminal on the loose, doing her level best to help destroy whatever great DNA that her two White parents managed to combine in order to create her in the first place.

    Please forgive me, if I failed to be sufficiently delicate in my description of the events as I am aware of them.

  84. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 11, 2012 - 10:45 am | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: This is a movie that the entire world should have already seen before and, therefore be familiar with the script. A few of us appear to have slept through the horror movie.

    Let me briefly recap the storyline, which is almost identical to the one which the jews followed in 1917, after they had orchestrated the murderous Bolshevik Revolution and seized the Russian people and their nation by the hair of their heads.

    From my reading, one of the very first laws that the jewish Communists passed after taking power – was to make ‘Antisemitism’ a capital offense, punishable by death in most cases. Also, any resistance or opposition to the jewish controlled Soviet government and it’s Communist agenda was categorized as clear evidence of mental illness – and those dissidents would be rounded up and sent to assorted psychiatric hospitals, where demonically evil and sadistic jewish ‘doctor Frankensteins’ would be able to perform all kinds of unbelievably horrific experiments on them – in an attempt to find out why they were ‘mentally ill’ and why they were opposed the evil Communist system.

    This is the exact same template that has been unfolding here in the United States, beginning in earnest after WW2 ended, when the Frankfurt School trained, mostly jewish, Cultural Marxists began to spew their anti-white, anti-Western, anti-Christian vomit and poison into every corner of American society, using their media control to present all of their destructive and subversive agendas as being ‘cool’ and ‘hip’ and ‘fashionable’. Since the false flag event of 9-11, however, these genetic totalitarians are pushing to recreate the USSR right here in North America at the speed of light.

    So, while Dr. Kevin MacDonald and many others have carefully and studiously documented the existence of countless strains of mental and psychological pathologies that seem to permeate and actually thrive within the jewish race – pathologies and mental diseases that are fairly well documented by medical experts, there is an ironic and potentially fatal aspect to the situation that we see unfolding in America.

    These extremely aggressive psychopaths, with their almost supernatural, hyper-active, super human levels of destructive energy are on the verge of seizing absolute, unchecked, supreme power over a second White European, Christian nation — within a short span of a mere 100 years. And, when the true and legitimate psychopaths are in power – they immediately seek to define sanity and normalcy as a form of ‘mental illness’. A complete reversal of the actual truth.

    Any resistance or opposition by a non-jew to jewish power and jewish rule is, in the warped and twisted, racial supremacist, diseased mind of the jew, equivalent to ‘AntiSemitism’ at a minimum, and a clear indication mental insanity, because to these jews – gentile insubordination is evidence of insanity.

    Do not discount the depth or intensity of jewish narcissism and jewish conceit, people.

    To conclude: The reason I used the expression ‘on the verge of seizing absolute, unchecked, supreme power over a second White European, Christian nation’ – is because of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution. Private ownership of firearms is, perhaps, the last major obstacle to the jews putting the finishing touches on USSR The Sequel.

    Do NOT surrender those weapons of self defense, my fellow White brothers and sisters. Draw a line in the sand on this issue and do not retreat or surrender, or you will wind up the same way 65 million plus Whites did when the jews had totalitarian control of Russia and half of Europe.

  85. HarryO's Gravatar HarryO
    February 11, 2012 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    @wattylersrevolt:

    Your argument is sound, your points well-taken. Ceding large portions of the contiguous states is indeed potentially suicidal. Ideally the nation should have remained 89/10/1 as per six decades ago. Whites SHOULD have maintained a robust Christian culture and a sane racial perspective. That ideal is demolished and you can’t go home again. I say ideal qualifiedly as a fully homogeneous nation would be the Platonic ideal – but the negro presence is ancient for America and perfection is never to be had. As is true of any people a realistic and self-preserving state-of-mind is foundational to survival and then forwardly to a prospering, wealth-acquiring and peaceful land.

    That said, some sort of partitioning and thorough separation is an existential necessary. And let’s stop (not you but to others on this thread) with this milquetoast self-serving drivel about not wanting harm for others, just a nice place of your own, etc. etc. All successful and ascendant peoples must be martial people. With a Christian perspective a just consideration is to be brought to any decision for war but a readiness and decisive willingness to such is a must for any prospect for separation and a reconstitution of a people and and a homeland. And let us not imagine that any scheme of such grand design as a carving out a nation from a nation will not entail war in some measure, large or otherwise. Naivete and failure to cognize the cost is a fatal disposition.

  86. Farnham O'Reilly's Gravatar Farnham O'Reilly
    February 11, 2012 - 9:41 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall: Thanks, Ward, for your comments. All well taken.

    Still, and I hope this is not a disappointment to anyone out there, but all the WNs I know in the PNW (including myself) really aren’t bomb throwers. Most of us have firearms, but only for hunting (nonhumans). I personally went to bow and arrow before I gave up hunting altogether – didn’t like the noise guns make. All us WN up here like making a decent (if not sometimes skimpy) living, our families, good food, peace and quiet, and Nature and all She offers.

    Our little website (www.familyhomenorthwest.com) is hardly what I would call the Weathermen Revisted.

    Our part of the world is a good part of the world. Even if you are not racially conscious, it’s still a good place to move to just for reasons of physical and mental health.

    Northwest best to y’all!

  87. Less IQ than a Jew's Gravatar Less IQ than a Jew
    February 11, 2012 - 9:01 am | Permalink

    “The idea of a White homeland in the Northwest is certainly one strategy that should be on the table … “ – Kevin MacDonald
    “With the rise of female voters, we have seen the transformation of the President to a surrogate husband and father.” –ramzpaul
    http://www.ramzpaul.com/2009/01/wedding-day-obama-marries-american.html
    “I get so tired of this lie that the United States was built on free trade — it’s not true at all.”
    http://www.ramzpaul.com/2009/02/free-trade-myths.html
    Jews and their wealthy allies have been using non-whites and Moslems to destroy the races of European descent. How can the message be spread and what action should be taken?

  88. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 4:40 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall: By the way, when I say it isn’t going to happen (bloody race war), I mean in our lifetimes. Now, many decades from now when Blacks and Latinos outnumber Whites several times to one, it is impossible to know what will happen. But it won’t happen while any of us are alive, even if someone is in their early 20s now.

  89. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 4:26 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall: I don’t get why so many WN like to associate with this blood splattered, bone crushing, bullet ridden, survivalist fantasy stuff. First off, it is never going to happen. And if the federal gov’t ever does decide to target these people in a lethal manner, it will end like every other conflict the US federal gov’t has had with anyone over the last 150 years – the US Gov’t will win, the other side will be massively dead. Why people think that they’re tiny huddled groups with their shotguns and food preserves are going to be a match for cruise missiles is beyond me.

    The federal gov’t isn’t going to “collapse”. This is just a secular version of the End Times.

    And yes, of course it feeds the narrative that WN are blood thirsty killers spoiling for a fight. Again, not in the mind of our opponents but in the minds of those reachable Whites who come across this site

    Why MacDonald in any way associates with it is beyond me.

  90. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 4:16 am | Permalink

    @fender: Just remember, this isn’t about winning over our opponents. We keep getting sidetracked by that issue. Of course, we can never “win over” our enemies. The point is, we have to reach Whites, how ever many are reachable. And for them, they are so conditioned to think of us as sociopathic killers eager to shove children in an oven, that they run in fear from even reading our material. We do need to have a responsible, grown up, civilized tone, to get those people to listen.

  91. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 11, 2012 - 4:11 am | Permalink

    @fender: Yes, but bear in mind, there are a significant number of Whites that search for things on the internet without any filter with regard to race. So, if you are talking about the mass media outlets, I agree. But when it comes to blogs, websites, YouTube videos, etc., a white person may come to them unfiltered. If we present ourselves as serious men, we have a chance to win them over.

  92. February 11, 2012 - 3:53 am | Permalink

    “With Kevin MacDonald and Jared Taylor you have two well-educated, well-spoken, and intelligent individuals and they still get treated like hood-wearing Klansmen.”

    True. I got to the point of saying, Let’s just speak the truth and to hell with whatever slurs they throw. It’s too late to allow ourselves to be controlled by them anymore. I was listening to a VOR (Voice or Reason Radio) archive tonight, and a fellow was listing all the men who “named the name” and were thereafter “disappeared” from the media, or villified. It included Charles Lindburgh, Henry Ford. Sort of like, “See how much power they have, how they’ll ruin ya.”

    Much better, I say, to say all the dangerous things here and now before a man rises. Let them see it right out on the table from the start. Then there is no “denouement” possible by our new “gatekeepers of fame.” You were naming the name from the very beginning; any progress you make will be on those terms.

    I think Kevin M. likely came to similar conclusions at some point. Fear and silence are our enemy. They grow by it. So turn it the other way: Give them so many Rumplestiltskin-namers and so-called “supremacists” that they can’t even count them much less make hyperbole over them, and somebody like Kevin MacDonald tame as toast by comparison. There are enough of us to teem.

    I am tired of being psychologically manipulated plus seeing it done to all who I love.

  93. February 11, 2012 - 2:56 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall:

    Do our enemies see us as “basically bomb throwers” and – if so – have the proponents of a white homeland in the Pacifice Northwest given them any reason to think so?

    Actually, yes.

    For anyone doubting this, one need only read Harold Covington’s “Northwest Quartet” of novels – and read them through the eyes of our enemies – to conclude without any doubt at all that “bomb throwing” Writ Large is the theme of these works of fiction.

    Ward, you are half-right.

    You are right to say that Harold Covington promotes an image of violence that will tend to get White racialists into trouble.

    I recall especially when Covington posted a video advertisement for his novels composed of IRA terrorist footage, that there was a lot of negative reaction. April Gaede in particular expressed discomfort about the image that Harold Covington was creating for her cause.

    April Gaede, 23 January 2011:

    I have complained to HAC about this video from the first time I saw it, as have several other members of the Kalispell PLE group. Our argument was that we are trying to attract families and businesses to the Pacific Northwest and showing a video of IRA types shooting people is not good PR. Also we all made the point that showing videos of activities that we are NOT capable is stupid, only slightly less stupid than showing the video if we WERE capable of pulling off that sort of ” attack”. Other than being some pissed off old white guy’s wet dream, what POSSIBLE positive effect could it have? I sent this question to him via email as well as facebook with no response. Others in our group also wrote to him, independent of my knowledge and complained to me that he told them to ” read my books”. At that point I removed myself from that facebook page and patted myself on the back for not having ever agreed to be part of the “Northwest Front” but my own group Pioneer Little Europe. This whole situation upset me, and once again made me realize that the best thing for our group in Kalispell would be to stay separate from any of the NW Front fantasy. Darn it, I am so tired of idiots who are playing games with our future and living out fantasy scenarios while they remain disconnected from real life and real people.

    So, Ward, it seems that you and April Gaede are on the same page here, in regard to the lack of wisdom in this kind of publicity and the need to keep distance from people that do this.

    Where you are wrong is to identify the egregious Harold Covington with “the proponents of a white homeland in the Pacific Northwest” as a group. April Gaede obviously would be the most noteworthy counterexample to that generalization. I believe that the amount of noise that Covington makes (often using sockpuppets) is far out of proportion to his real-world support.

    The problem about which you complain is not specific to the Northwest Migration idea; it’s specific to Harold Covington (and whatever few loosely-wrapped followers he is able to attract). Covington has always been a publicity-seeker that went out of his way to associate himself with violence, as far back as 1981 when he made the false claim that would-be presidential assassin John Hinckley had been a member of the “National Socialist Party of America,” of which Covington had succeeded Frank Collin as leader.

    My question to you is, since you obviously disapprove of Mr. Covington, are you going to ask Greg Johnson to omit Covington’s endorsement in future from the cover of your book?

  94. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 11, 2012 - 2:00 am | Permalink

    Alex Jones, megaphoned husband to a Jewish wife, father to Jewish children, hosted by a network owned by J.H. Smulyan. If one can’t quash scepticism, or hospitalize those “afflicted” with this malady, then best to own it and make it your friend.

  95. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 11, 2012 - 1:57 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall:

    Our image is filtered through the media before it ever reaches the minds of the goyim at large. Our image is what the tribe wants it to be. We could write books about White children playing with puppies and kittens in a White utopia and it would be banned just the same as the Turner Diaries or whatever other nonsense WN authors come up with.

  96. Ward Kendall's Gravatar Ward Kendall
    February 11, 2012 - 1:14 am | Permalink

    @fender: With all due respect Fender, you lost me from the first word. “Self-examination” is not for the benefit of our opponents but serves as a touchstone of reality for our side.

    In regard to “image-improvement” can you quote where I discussed that in my previous post? Then I can address it.

    In either case, “image-improvement” is not intended to be used against our enemies, but – if it is utilized – as a means to clearly radiate to our own people what we are truly about – rather than relying on the enemies’ media distortion of us.

  97. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 12:44 am | Permalink

    One last question please to any who know. This question of RH- and RH+ blood. Obviously the Chosen Tribe claims its uniqueness due to RH-. But not only the Jews do this. So do the Celts. I exchanged a few posts online with a Celt and he had me convinced the Celts were the Chosen Ones because Celtic females have RH- and could only breed with RH- males, keeping a sacred bloodline. Pouring over websites dealing with blood types, RH-is something like only 18% of the world population.

    So my question is, is there any validity to a sacred bloodline, be it the Jews and/or the Celts?

  98. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 11, 2012 - 12:41 am | Permalink

    @Ward Kendall:

    Self-examination and image-improvement only works against opponents who are reasonable. The tribe is not reasonable, they are hellbent on destruction and genocide. With Kevin MacDonald and Jared Taylor you have two well-educated, well-spoken, and intelligent individuals and they still get treated like hood-wearing Klansmen. Nothing is going to change the mind of the tribe. The only thing that matters is our image to ourselves and our own people. Are we actually supposed to ask permission for us not to be genocided?

    How did the tribe take Russia and then Palestine? They ruthlessly massacred millions in acts of outright racial cleansing in both countries. They didn’t care what anyone thought of it, they just did it. This is the type of people we’re dealing with. Outright fanatics, as Voltaire rightly saw them. We could all be Harvard-educated and it wouldn’t matter one bit; they’d see us as evil and do everything in their power to wreck us.

  99. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 11, 2012 - 12:34 am | Permalink

    @fender:

    Whiteness is a mutation then it makes sense that when a White person mates with a non-White person, that mutation gets easily wiped out. The word mutation, however, should not be seen as a negative; evolution is based on the adaptation of genes, and the one of reason why Whites have a higher IQ is because of this mutation. This is why eugenics is so important; our DNA is what defines us as a people.

    Ahh now I understand ! It’s based on a mutation ! And Evolution ! Adaption of Genes, higher IQ, Eugenics.

    Thanks so much for explaining this so easily. No wonder I never could understand. The field of Genetics would make my eyes glaze over trying to understand from that angle wherein did the problem lay.

    Yes! Thank you! I’ve cut and pasted your reply so I’m never without it.

    Finally, one mystery solved ! Thank you! It might be interesting to read O’Reilly’s Hyperborean novel mentioned in the article now. I needed a foundation to understand Hyperboria. Mutation, adaption of genes, IQ, Evolution, and most of all – Eugenics.

    Thanks ! :)

  100. February 11, 2012 - 12:26 am | Permalink

    Dr. MacDonald: “What Harpham has to do with setting up a White homeland in the Northwest is left up to the reader’s conjecture, but I guess we are supposed to think that Whites who are motivated to have a place to call their own are basically bomb throwers at heart.”

    I believe it is always a wise policy to examine an enemy’s perspective of us, in order to determine why they see us they way they do. Do our enemies see us as “basically bomb throwers” and – if so – have the proponents of a white homeland in the Pacifice Northwest given them any reason to think so?

    Actually, yes.

    For anyone doubting this, one need only read Harold Covington’s “Northwest Quartet” of novels – and read them through the eyes of our enemies – to conclude without any doubt at all that “bomb throwing” Writ Large is the theme of these works of fiction.

    Oh, did I say “fiction”?

    Well, yes – the novels are fiction. And they are entertaining as fiction. Even so, it is clear that the novels are clearly intended to dramatize the kinds of real-life events, people, and actions necessary to bring about such a Northwest homeland. Yes, we can say – with a wink and a smile – “it’s only fiction!” But few among us would be so dense as to believe that such novels aren’t trying to give WN’s a foretaste of the physical struggles creating such a homeland would take.

    Honestly, does anyone here (who has read all four novels, as I have) seriously doubt that our enemies, also familiar with the extreme “bomb throwing” events depicted in these works of fiction, don’t see them as a stealth blueprint for real-life action?

    Are we surprised?

    Clearly, self-examination is the hardest thing for we white nationalists to conduct. We can scope out our enemies weaknesses and intents with laser-like intensity and accuracy, yet we can’t – or won’t – do it to ourselves.

    But we need to.

    Many refuse to, however, because they feel such brutal self-examination damages morale. I feel it damages only one thing, however: delusional thinking on our part.

    To advance our Cause, we need to see and understand how our enemy sees us. Mindless though many of them are, they are not all so. If they call us “bomb throwers”, we have to ask ourselves if there is any thing out there they can point to (and show the public) that we harbor even the thought of doing. In my judgment, there is.

    Okay. Let’s live up to it. As we do, let us also remember the famous quote: Fortune favors the brave.

    Let us fight for the truth we know is ours, but let us also not pretend with a “who, me?” attitude that some things said about us are not true, when clearly they are.

    Respectfully,

    Ward Kendall

  101. Expat68's Gravatar Expat68
    February 11, 2012 - 12:12 am | Permalink

    If whites think their gonna get a “White Homeland” diplomatically then they have another thing coming. In my opinion America is too far gone and it’s way too late to even consider such a thing. I sincerely wish it could happen but America- all of it, will have to utterly collapse economically and whites would have to find themselves in a very desperate situation before they would be willing to take the necessary actions for such a “White Homeland” to become a reality. Also, whites would have to be willing to sacrifice everything- even their lives if need be, and become strong again like they once were. Do they have it in them now? Most do not, in my opinion.

  102. February 11, 2012 - 12:10 am | Permalink

    @fender:
    Not so, I’m afraid. We don’t know what colour eyes were 10,000 years ago. They don’t even know what colour the 5,200 year old Ötzi’s eyes were. At this time, it is believed that his “tribe” is extinct.
    There are other things that run against the common genetic theory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_56y2goiQ0

    http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2008/07/17/4380054-black-and-white-twins-brothers-from-the-same-mother

    Genetics is infinitely more complicated than what we are led to believe. If we are all out of Africa, does that mean all of the smart ones left?

  103. February 10, 2012 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    @tadzio:
    There has been a large black population in Nova Scotia for over 150+ years.

  104. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    February 10, 2012 - 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Re: Kim Murphy

    She used to cover Israel for the Zionist Los Angeles Times. However, it turns out some homelands are more equal than others.

  105. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 10, 2012 - 11:18 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    The genes that produce Whiteness are the result of genetic mutations which occurred millennia ago. Apparently, before 10,000 years ago, everyone had brown eyes, for example. Due to evolution, at one point a child was born with blue eyes, and everyone today with blue eyes is a descendant of this single human. When you realize that Whiteness is a mutation then it makes sense that when a White person mates with a non-White person, that mutation gets easily wiped out. The word mutation, however, should not be seen as a negative; evolution is based on the adaptation of genes, and the one of reason why Whites have a higher IQ is because of this mutation. This is why eugenics is so important; our DNA is what defines us as a people.

  106. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 11:12 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    Oh I see. Klum’s white child was by a former husband. Odd that she picked up with a black celebrity. There’s definitely more going on behind the scenes why she would pick up with a black. She’s certainly accomplished. I can’t imagine what she would want with a black singer.

  107. BUGSer1's Gravatar BUGSer1
    February 10, 2012 - 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Kevin McDonald says
    “But multicultural elites have managed to persuade huge numbers of Whites that they have a moral obligation to allow themselves to be displaced and to lose political and cultural control.”

    As an experienced BUGSer I know the last part is false.

    Forced Integration is the Demand.

    They want to mix and blend ONLY White people out of existence – genocide. They will not let Whites move to a place peacefully and leave us alone to be White. They will pursue us with non-Whites endlessly where ever we go and force us to integrate, because their goal is genocide.

    Kevin McDonald says
    “No one argues that Korea, say, should import millions of Africans so that Korea can become a multicultural society in which native Koreans are a minority”

    In my experience arguing with anti-Whites almost every day, I know this is correct. I have never got them to answer this question:

    “Which Asian or African country would you like to see flooded with non-Asians or non-Africans and the natives forced to integrate, assimilate and produce children with the immigrants?”

    Their refusal to answer this question, while advocating exactly the same genocide for Whites, proves they are anti-White.

  108. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 10:21 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    Interesting how he automatically decided you were WN, when your tweet was neutral at best. Shows how racist he is against the white race.

    Anti-racism is a code word for anti-white.

  109. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 10:01 pm | Permalink

    By the way, I wrote a twitter response to a person named Alex Pareene who wrote an anti-White piece for Salon.com. This is what I wrote:

    “Why does Alex Pareene write anti-White hate articles? I hope you can find it in your heart to find love for all people. Peace”

    Just having fun, being a little smart alecky but hopefully making a point. Anyway, he retweeted it to all his followers. Someone asked him why and he said:

    “every time I write about white nationalists their weird corner of the internet reaches out. It’s weird.>

    Now I find that very encouraging! Our numbers are growing, brothers and sisters. Our impact is being felt.

  110. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 9:49 pm | Permalink

    @jason speaks:

    In other words, the troll was arguing in favor of race-mixing because white genes were ‘recessive’ (in case I wasn’t clear). Anyway I’ll know what to say next time.

  111. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 9:44 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: The details of genetics is very confusing. But what’s interesting is how in one area, the Left will say we need to oppose nature (feed the hungry, take care of other races children), yet in another area we need to let nature run its course (letting Whites die out).

    It’s hypocrisy. Or maybe it’s simpler to say they are just anti-White and grab onto whatever argument advances their cause at the moment, without regard to the fact it contradicts what they said 10 minutes ago.

    I am not a genetics expert, but just because something is fragile (in some sense) doesn’t mean it is weak or disfavored by Mother Nature. Life itself is fragile. And clearly all mammal life is more fragile than say, bacteria. Like they say, in an atomic war maybe only the cockroaches would survive, but that doesn’t mean they are “favored” by nature. It just means they are less complex and therefore require less protection.

    Many beautiful things require special attention, yet they are better. A high end Mercedes requires more maintenance than say, a bicycle, but it doesn’t mean the future belongs to bikes.

  112. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    He or she wasn’t a friend, Jason. Just some troll that attacked me on something I posted on probably some pro-white or conservative youtube having to do with the white race or something similar. I never bother posting on any liberal youtubes. The ‘opposition’ is way too overwhelming, and immediately the flash mobs, gang-bangers and cliques show up (if you know what I mean).

    But I will definitely try to remember in future your suggestion (“Doesn’t your friend think the beauty and uniqueness of every race is worth preserving?”).

    But wait…that was the troll’s point about white genes being ‘recessive’. Why is that? The troll’s implication was that Mother Nature was weeding out the White Race. I know THAT could not possibly be true, so why are white genes recessive? It’s confusing.

  113. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: I think the Whites genes do get “overwhelmed” in mix marriages for the most part. But tell your friend that this is all the more reason to protect White genes. Doesn’t your friend think the beauty and uniqueness of every race is worth preserving? (Throw that at them if they are liberal!)

  114. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 8:21 pm | Permalink

    4 kids, I meant. I was focussing on the 3 black ones. The little lone white one … well, what can I say? I wonder when she fills out census forms in the future, what race she will indicate for herself?

  115. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 8:17 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    omg. That picture of the 3 kids is beyond words. I don’t understand these white women. Don’t they even see what’s in front of their face (when it comes to their offspring)?

    Someone attacked me once saying white genes were recessive, and they meant white genes are dying out anyway. The person gave a link to a genetic website, and yes it did say certain traits that define whiteness (most were located in the ‘white column’) were recessive. I can’t say I know anything about genetics, and the language is confusing trying to figure out what ‘recessive’ meant, ie. did it mean literally that white genes are recessive?

    I wish someone would do me a favor and explain what ‘recessive’ means. My only counter to the attacker was to say that unless he meant that Mother Nature was trying to eliminate the white race, that I highly doubted that, and dropped the matter.

  116. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    February 10, 2012 - 8:08 pm | Permalink

    A change of place cannot save our race; only a change of mind can save our kind.

  117. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 8:05 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Scary picture. Well this may be one reason for the “one drop” rule that used to be in place in the US. If you had one drop of black blood, you were black. I believe (not certain) that Thomas Jefferson had worked out a scheme that by the time a person was only 1/32 black, they could be considered White.

  118. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 7:52 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is a diagnosis described by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as an ongoing pattern of anger guided disobedience, hostilely defiant behavior toward authority figures. . .

    Synchronicity. I heard that phrase just this morning on the radio during some news segment, and wanted to bring it up along with the other comments about the government and survivalists, but could not think of the phrase that I heard.

    When I heard that phrase on this radio this morning I got alarmed, because sure as shootin’ — I’ve got it !

  119. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 7:31 pm | Permalink

    @Gregor:

    More importantly he [KMD] GIVES US something to say, a talking point that counters the anti-White narrative embedded in that LaLa Times article. What did he give us? The following two lines near the end of the article

    Thanks, Gregor! I never thought of it like that. One of my problems is that more often than not I find I cannot be succinct in making a comment, i.e. on the LA Times open comments, and usually I cannot think of anything to say, especially when the ‘opposition’ is in view.

    You’ve given me an approach how I can add my 2 cents like
    “anti-racism is code word for anti-white”. As long as it enrages them — it’s good enough for me! :)

  120. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 10, 2012 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    The only child of hers that will suffer is the White girl she had with her first husband. Growing up with three unruly black kids is going to be punishment without equal; and yes, they are fully black. They will have no identity crisis, because White genes are recessive. Just look at pictures of them:
    http://celebkids.whyfame.com/files/2010/11/heidi_klum_children.jpg
    I already feel sorry for the girl and the dysfunctional upbringing she’s going to receive due to her mother being a skank.

  121. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 7:20 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    Kiryas Joel NY: Say what one will about these Hasidics/Orthodox, but just goes to show they sure as hell have it together. Interesting article. I imagine Kiryas Joel is off-limits altogether to non-Jews. They have it so much together that these communities would be ultimately 100% safe places to live. I have no doubt they are armed too.

  122. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    @Richard:

    Amazing. I had no idea Heidi Klum, who I often see on the QVC network showing her jewelry line, was married to ‘Seal’. I can’t imagine what she saw in him. This explains why her jewelry line has distinct African patterns.

  123. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    February 10, 2012 - 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Mexican (or Colombian) cartels are in business because the banking cartel that runs America launders by most modest estimates upwards of ½ a trillion dollars of their profits per annum.
    What would possess bankers to get the Feds to choke off the torrent of illegal pedros pouring across southern border ?
    Ignore the tired deflection show from the usual SPLC Khazars pitching their pseudo-humanistic banalities and uninvited advocacy.
    Folks, we are talking here about SERIOUS shekels – pun intended.

  124. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 7:06 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    Hadding Scott
    February 10, 2012 – 1:59 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    There doesn’t seem to be much hope really….

    Pessimism like this comes from expecting other people to do the right thing. Make up your mind to take a productive path yourself and at least you can feel good about that, and you’ll very likely influence others.

    Excuse me, but I don’t need your back-handed criticism directed at me. I was responding to two posters here who said the idea of a WN homeland would not work. Go and criticize THEM first — before you single me out for your back-handed remarks.

  125. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 6:57 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Seal and Heidi created three mixed-raced human beings that will no doubt suffer identity problems their whole life. Very selfish on their part. Of course, for Seal, his progeny have the advantage that they will have White genes. But Heidi as truly committed the greater sin. She has forever mixed her beautiful genes with African genes, and her children and grandchildren will suffer for it. They could have had a White father.

  126. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 10, 2012 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: I am glad I could brighten your day, kind sir. I agree Jason is a good contributor, and I understand his fear. The trappings of being President, such as costing the taxpayers 10 million per day (if not more?) to fly in limos and such on 4 transport planes plus Air Force One, plus the cooks, advisors, PR agents, golf instructors/coaches, ball shiners, shoe shiners, stewards, waiters, bakers, speech writers, official photographers, Secret Service, etc. when you want to bop on out for a little vacation does look impressive to kids. I just tell my kids he is setting records for spending, and they are going to pay for the debts he has created. That takes some air out of the bubble.

  127. HP's Gravatar HP
    February 10, 2012 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

    The fact that somebody would even take the satirical “Anti-Government Phobia” piece seriously is overshadowed by the fact that others think it needed “checking” (among them Alice Teller, who once proposed that multiculturalism was an example of the “scientific method” — is she for real, or what?) when the piece starts off with the legend “Dr. Ivor E. Tower” — well. What can I say? White people really seem to have devolved to the level that I have long feared. It’s sad; truly sad.

  128. February 10, 2012 - 6:46 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: No, not even close.

  129. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 10, 2012 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    As prominent an anti-white Judaic number cruncher as Ben Wattenberg has confirmed your impression. In fully 93 percent of black-white marriages, it is the wife who is white.

    One of the most high-profile Black male/White female marriages is now over. Singer “Seal” and his model wife Heidi Klum, with whom he had three children, are now divorced or in the process of divorce. This happened fairly recently.

    I thought I’d mention it since your comment sort of provided an opening.

    I’m not making fun of Seal or Heidi Klum. But at least they can no longer parade their unnatural relationship in front of millions of impressionable White adolescents and young adults via magazines and entertainment-news shows and websites.

  130. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 10, 2012 - 6:20 pm | Permalink

    It seems to be a hoax. But it is so close to official policy- survivalists and constitutionalists being labeled as terrorists (see “Investigating Terrorism and Criminal Extremism — Term and Concepts” DOJ). Then we have diagnoses like-
    Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is a diagnosis described by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as an ongoing pattern of anger guided disobedience, hostilely defiant behavior toward authority figures. . .
    Then we have “diagnoses” of the Soviet Union such as “sluggish schizophrenia”
    used by KGB to place recalcitrants in “mental hospitals”.

    “Of course the same mentality that accepts unsupported conspiracy.” There is nothing wrong with my mentality. I made a mistake. However, there IS something wrong with advocating socialism- like utter disdain for facts. (It’s all based on magical thinking. The originators like Shaw and the Fabians openly said the purpose of socialism is to enslave the masses.) We are all using the first amendment from the glorious enlightenment. Scott- ain’t you the weenie who denies jew involvement in 911?

  131. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 10, 2012 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: “White guys almost never go for a ‘relationship’ with a black girl. . . .” Just so. As prominent an anti-white Judaic number cruncher as Ben Wattenberg has confirmed your impression. In fully 93 percent of black-white marriages, it is the wife who is white.

  132. February 10, 2012 - 5:54 pm | Permalink

    A white homeland in the Northwest? Hey, it sounds like Portland!

  133. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Thanks for the feedback, that is a relief to hear about the kids and Obama. I still fear that it will have a bad impact on many kids, but it sounds like many of the smarter kids aren’t taking him that seriously.

  134. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 5:04 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Yes, of course, I’m very against miscegenation. Generally, I don’t see much of it. I keep hearing WN talk about it as if it were around every corner, but at least until recently, I seldom saw it. And very very very seldom have I seen black/white couples. When I do see it, it is usually a Hispanic and White. It’s a very bad trend, and it’s the ultimate threat over the very long term – over many generations or centuries.

    I’ve found that the White women who are with non-White guys are usually pretty unattractive and have serious issues. Especially if its a black guy – they are so bad off that they are often little more than prostitutes and criminals anyway. White guys almost never go for a “relationship” with a black girl – its usually Hispanic or Asian.

    So, I don’t know what you want? I’ve thought some of the guys were overblowing how common it is. The stats show that Whites still marry each other something like 98% of the time. So, when I see “WN” post something claiming that White girls are going for black guys in a big way, well, it’s simply not true.

  135. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    February 10, 2012 - 4:35 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Since I have tended to agree with Jason Speaks about the danger of another Obama term upon the character formation of young white kids, your comment has the pain-relief impact of three or four ibuprofen on a bad headache. Thanks for brightening my day.

  136. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 4:31 pm | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:
    Indeed. If we are going to claim intelligence, we ought to use it. One of the great things about the web is the ability to check and double check. It may not be foolproof, but it worth the effort.

  137. February 10, 2012 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    The site with this info looks unreliable. Do you have a link to the original journal?

    Here’s a forum where somebody asked that same question in 2005. The seem to have come up empty-handed.

    Of course the same mentality that accepts unsupported conspiracy-claims about the government (think Alex Jones listeners) would also repost a conspiracy-claim about psychiatrists without checking it.

    The U.S. Government does some nefarious and highly dishonest stuff, especially in foreign policy. But let’s have a little care for our credibility and for not wasting our time, energy, and resources chasing chimaeras.

  138. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 3:12 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:
    The site with this info looks unreliable. Do you have a link to the original journal? Thanks.

  139. torgrim's Gravatar torgrim
    February 10, 2012 - 2:52 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza: Yes, what constitutes unfounded fear? How about past gov’t policy, such as the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, with the 33,000 draftees per month and the ensuing death of 55,000 US soldiers, mostly 19 and 20 year old rural White kids, thrown into the meat grinder? Now there’s something to fear.
    I almost thought that this new “mental” disorder was a joke, a bad one, but someone was just kidding…unbelievable!

  140. mari's Gravatar mari
    February 10, 2012 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

    ” Jason Speaks
    The main problem with any collaboration with Hispanics or Africans is that our interests aren’t really aligned. For the most part, they don’t really want to be totally separate from us, what they really is to exist as parasites on Whites. They want access to all the great things White produce. ”

    Jason is so absolutely right on this. Look at any goverment agency. Now that the Whites who were hired before 1970 have retired you will see no Whites at all.

    Affirmative action requires anything but a White, even someone with an IQ of 70 who cannot speak English. It’s true, I’m not talking about heavy accents, but here in S. California it’s often no English or even Spanish at all. Many of the hispanic immigrants are stone age Indians from remote areas that speak no Spanish.

    Whites create businesses, work at them and pay the taxes. The affirmative action jumped up ghetto trash blacks and hispanics are either affirmative action goverment employees or on some form of welfare.

    Lolling about in prison being fed and cared for by the taxpayer is a form of welfare.

    I’d love to establish a White homeland. Problem about the northwest is that about 80 percent of the land between Minnesota and the Pacific ocean is owned by the federal goverment.

    Maybe Whites could get long term leases on some of the Indian reservations. But I doubt the feds would allow the Indians to do this on “their” land.

    If we tried the feds would slaughter us.

    The United Nations has something about genocide called the stages leading to total genocide. Mass replacement of native peoples is one of the first steps. That is happening now with immigration of non Whites.

    One thing I have always been aware of is affirmative action since it ruined my life. The very first action Hitler took against Jews was affirmative action for non Jews. That was in April 1933 just shortly after he became chancellor and dictator.

    Another aspect of planned genocide is what the Russians used to call hooliganism. It is unpunished and condoned
    rapes, murders, robberies and assaults by goverment front groups against the group designated for genocide.

    Whites have been victim of this for almost 100 years, since the blacks migrated to the northern cities.

    Just as thugs were encouraged to attack Jews in Nazi Germany so for decades blacks have been encouraged and allowed to attack Whites with impunity.

    The only solution I can see is to go begging to China or the Saudis for vast amounts of money to finance our revolution. Russia is presently in the hands of the Jews who created the revolution a century ago and ran the communist party and the communist goverment during the soviet years. So Russia is out as a White ally.

    Revolutions have never in human history come from the bottom. It is always the upper classes who finance a revolt against other elites using the masses as cannon fodder.

    Without the billions at the disposal of Soros, Bronfman, Annenberg, Foxman , Morris Dees, Bill Ayers types and most of all our own goverment, we are doomed.

    On an individual level, I think the only thing to do is to follow the example of English Catholics from 1533 to 1832. Go underground.

    If you are young, change your name to a Spanish one. A Spanish name and the average White IQ and abilities will get you a free ride to college and a plethora of job offers starting in junior year.

    If you have children, change their names to a Spanish one before they enter high school. They will be affirmative action aristocrats.

    “Sauve qui Peut” Save yourself if you can.

  141. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    February 10, 2012 - 2:28 pm | Permalink

    In this article, Kevin MacDonald does something VERY SPECIAL and important.

    In a comment he suggests readers here go and DO something on the LaLa Times article/comments.

    More importantly he GIVES US something to say, a talking point that counters the anti-White narrative embedded in that LaLa Times article. What did he give us? The following two lines near the end of the article:

    “No one argues that Korea, say, should import millions of Africans so that Korea can become a multicultural society in which native Koreans are a minority, even though they have dominated the Korean peninsula for thousands of years.”

    “The leftist multicultural elites would be horrified if someone suggested massive European immigration into African societies so that Africans would be a minority and their culture lost.”

    The only thing I would have added is … “Multiculturalism is just a code-word for anti-White”

    I applaud Kevin for both giving us some lines which are capable of utterly DESTROYING the anti-White narrative, and for encouraging those here to go DO SOMETHING.

  142. Gregor's Gravatar Gregor
    February 10, 2012 - 2:20 pm | Permalink

    @Bill Yancey: Bill, we ALWAYS take advantage of open comment threads on anti-White articles. Before even reading KMac’s excellent article, I went to the LaLa Times and posted ….

    Anti-Whites say there should be no White Countries ✓

    Anti-Whites say there should be no White Towns ✓
    
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Neighbourhoods ✓

    Anti-Whites say there should be no White Schools✓
    
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Classes ✓

    Anti-Whites say there should be no White Sports ✓
    
Anti-Whites say there should be no White Anything ✓

    Anti-Whites say there should be no Whites
    
Anti racism is a code word for anti White.

    —–

    It’s easy and it’s fun. It ENRAGES anti-Whites: What could be more fun than that!

  143. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    @Fenria:

    It is a lovely life. My husband and I fled multiculturalism for the Blue Ridge many years ago. My husband was recently hospitalized, and everyone who cared for him was white, polite, and spoke English. I am certain that this reduced the stress involved in any surgery.

    It is also an area that can easily be cut off from access via major Interstates very easily. I an not waiting for societal collapse, but I will not be shocked if we sustain a blow that we cannot cope with quickly enough to prevent urban violence.

    I do make one plea. If you move to the country, please leave multicultural manners behind. Lay low for a while and remember that in some sense you are the invader. This is a wonderful place to live because of the people who have maintained it for decades. Show some gratitude.

    If it works for Kiryas Joel NY why can’t it work for us?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/nyregion/kiryas-joel-a-village-with-the-numbers-not-the-image-of-the-poorest-place.html?pagewanted=all

  144. February 10, 2012 - 1:59 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    There doesn’t seem to be much hope really….

    Pessimism like this comes from expecting other people to do the right thing. Make up your mind to take a productive path yourself and at least you can feel good about that, and you’ll very likely influence others.

  145. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 10, 2012 - 1:32 pm | Permalink

    I think even islands are out of the question, except for the rich. Today’s comments are depressing, though they do have some points (i.e. what to do about the lower 48, and ecological factors, which I take to mean overcrowding in a N.W. Homeland, etc.)

    There doesn’t seem to be much hope really, except whites looking at the demographics for majority white areas, move there, and bring up the numbers.

    Networking with the Survivalists might be useful in the meantime. I sat up late the other night watching two episodes of a new program called ‘Doomsday Preppers’ on the National Geographic Channel. In each episode four or five Survivalists explained what they are prepping for, like an EMP event, or the North-South poles switching causing, some think, a shifting of the tectonic plates, to oil collapse, to a complete financial collapse, food shortages, all things involving a destruction of civilization. I was impressed how many people are actually preparing in very well thought out ways, in regard to stockpiling, defense, etc. At the end of each individual presentation, Survivalist experts give their opinions on how well each person’s (including whole families) preparations were thought out, with suggestions for improvement. It was also noted at the end of each presentation what the chances are of said event happening. The percentage was low for each scenario.

    Yet, the skills involved were terrific in many cases, like a knowledge of botany for food and plant medicines, self-defense for women (where women would be most at risk for rape in a civilization collapse event), methods of stockpiling food (even cheeses by dipping into melted wax), woodworking, metalworking skills (one expert metalworker was a woman who was taught by her father). I didn’t like the idea of having to kill any animals for food, but that’s another story.

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/meet-the-preppers-pictures/

    Meet the Preppers Photo Gallery

  146. February 10, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    @TabuLa Raza:

    The problem here is how do you define “unfounded fear”? What constitutes something as being “unfounded”?

    It is very clear to me that there are some people that take conspiracy-theorizing too far, since they really just assume conspiracies without evidence. I think it’s pretty clear for example that William Cooper had some kind of mental disorder, and he was quite influential (but anti-racist).

    My experience has been that serious racialists are much less interested in all that conspiracy-theorizing. Racialists have their eyes on too many real evils that are going on out in the open to worry much about goofy rituals at Bohemian Grove.

  147. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    February 10, 2012 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    There is only one game in town:reclamation of lost Native Born White American living space..failure to do so will result in encirclement and eventually ecological collapse..enough with this nonesense about fantasy Islands and White Homelands in Montanna and Idaho..these two states will fill up very fast and reach and then overshoot carry capacity. Our only hope are massive catastrophes in the very near future…strong signals.

  148. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 10, 2012 - 12:58 pm | Permalink

    @mark:

    That’s why an island would be a better idea. Everyone should take a look at Japan, because that’s the model we should use: geographic isolation, political neutrality, ethnic homogeneity, and focus on science and technology.

  149. Banshee's Gravatar Banshee
    February 10, 2012 - 12:39 pm | Permalink

    The LA Times is irrelevant. I encourage any and all Whites I know to end their subscriptions immediately. It is a shill for illegal immigrants, White hatred and non-White criminals.

    I walk my dogs in the early mornings through my upscale, mostly White So Cal neighborhood and notice that maybe one in 20 homes subscribe to the LA Times.

    Two decades ago, 90% of driveways sported an LA Times on its driveway in the early morning. I used to wake to the sound on Sunday mornings of the thunk thunk thunk as the paper was thrown on almost every driveway down the block and around the corner. Now, the paper has shrunk so much that there isn’t even a thunk sound on Sundays when it is thrown on the driveways of the few subscribers left.

    I will rejoice and sing “Happy Happy Joy Joy” when the LA Times and other White-hating papers of its ilk are put out of business forever.

    Dec, 2011:

    The Los Angeles Times was rocked by more turmoil Tuesday when editor Russ Stanton resigned in advance of another round of cutbacks.

    Stanton, whose last day is Dec. 23, has presided over a tumultuous period of near-continuous layoffs since becoming editor in 2008. He is the fourth editor in a row – after John Carroll, Dean Baquet and James O’Shea – to leave amid demands for cuts. Deeper cuts may well follow after the final numbers for 2011 are in.

    Good Riddance LA Times!

  150. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    February 10, 2012 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Opposition to government now called mental illness:

    Fri Feb 10 2012 08:46
    A disturbing piece was published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry. In it is a study that claims people who are anti-government or believe in conspiracies around the government are suffering from a condition called Anti-Government Phobia (AGP). Meaning that anyone who has a distaste for the government, the way it operates, its polices and believes there is a particular force behind it, must be mentally ill. The implications here are frightening, if you feel the government is doing something that will harm you and that it is a part of a bigger plan, you are sick. Thus the government can respond as though you are a a threat.

    This is what the study actually claims:

    “This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch “us against them” mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often religious fanaticism.”

    The problem here is how do you define “unfounded fear”? What constitutes something as being “unfounded”? Is the belief that the government is doing things we don’t know about “unfounded”? Or seeing that it puts forward policies that reduce health care and education “unfounded”? Or is thinking the government lies in order to justify war “unfounded”? What is unfounded , is whatever the government says is. Its one of those vague definitions that can be used to cover anything, like the definition of terrorist right now. The blanketing statement is the ‘”us against them” mentality’, as it is the cornerstone of every conflict. This can be interpreted in almost an infinite number of ways. This will cover any criticism you have of the government.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1745/614/Anti-Government_Mental_Illness_According_To_Study.html

  151. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    February 10, 2012 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: I don’t think Obama as an authority figure is having too much of an impact on white kids, because they go to school with black and hispanic kids and they are totally unimpressed. My son is in an accelerated class, and they of course put a few minorities in there to make it look good. The black kids just want to copy off of his tests and homework, and the Hispanics let him do the work in their group projects.
    I took some of his friends to an event and they were telling racial jokes in the back of the car, hoping I wouldn’t hear and punish them, no less.
    They are not impressed by black men who don’t measure up, and I suspect they hear their parents’ frustrations at home.
    As you mentioned earlier, we should keep pounding the drums about the hasidic and sharia communities. The high hasidic birth rate means those ultra orthodox jews are going to come to dominate Judaism, and they don’t blend in any better than Sharia law adherents. Shining the light on those radicals will put the “benefits” of multicult out there for even idiots to see.

  152. mark's Gravatar mark
    February 10, 2012 - 11:15 am | Permalink

    If Whites establish a homeland, what are they supposed to do with the rest of the lower 48 States—just allow them to be more heavily populated with non-whites?

    You can see the need to prepare Whites for an eventual confrontation, right?

  153. south jersy's Gravatar south jersy
    February 10, 2012 - 10:42 am | Permalink

    I’ve been coming to TOO every day for a couple of years. In fact, it’s the only WN website I’ve visited in over a year. It has given my wife and me hope to witness a pro-white intellectual movement gaining steam. We always felt that the old vangaurd, KKK type groups did more harm to our cause than good. I was moved to comment today due to the topic of relocating. I met my racially conscious wife in Philadelphia. We married and had two children while living in that cess pool. We moved to the country when we became pregnant with number three. We now have four children. We live in a rural township in South Jersey that is 99% white. We checked the demagraphics before moving here. I commute over an hour each way, everyday. It’s worth every second and every drop of gas. You can’t put a dollar sign on the peace we now feel. When we go to a school play for one of our children, every single person in the gym is white. The tension that I used to feel just driving to the store while living in Philly is completely gone. Simplify your life, move to the country, and have as many children as you can afford. Do those three things, and we will succeed within a matter of two generations.

  154. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 10, 2012 - 10:01 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott:

    They are implying that this concentration of racially conscious Whites is really a criminal conspiracy, a secessionist movement with accompanying terrorism as exemplified supposedly by Kevin Harpham. The perception of such a conspiracy could justify draconian action on the part of the Federal Government. It’s important to avoid that that appearance.

    That is one of the reasons why some people under the “Only Whites are Racist in Duluth” article were concerned about one commenter’s serious proposal to behead White women who race-mix.

    The comment policy in red font above this comment box here states, “Comments that promote or suggest illegal activities will be censored.”

  155. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    February 10, 2012 - 9:53 am | Permalink

    The White Homeland proposal is complete nonesense..in the final analysis it means the complete physical extinction of Native Born White Americans.

    White Homelands=a remnant Native Born White American population surrounded by a heavily armed and rapidly expanding nonwhite population.

    White Homeland=China’s genetic borders extending right up to the borders of the new White Homeland..think about this deeply…is this the point in time that Whites finally resist invasion?..it would be way to late for this..it should have been done between 1965-2000.
    In the end, the ecological destruction and pollution of the nonwhite areas will-with 100 percent certainty-make its way to the White Homelands..the remnant White Population collapses.

    By the way, before ecological collapse occurs in the White Homeland..it will feel very overcrowded in the White Homelands..very expensive housing..very serious carrying issues will be experienced.

    Chuck Baldwin is living in a unviable fantasy land..as are every other magical thinking White Homeland enthusiasts.

    It is shocking to me to see the complete lack of an ecological sensibility in the Native Born White American Patriot Movement(Jared Taylor,Peter Brimelow,Richard Spencer,Dennis Mangan and Kevin McDonald).

  156. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 10, 2012 - 9:36 am | Permalink

    @blue rose: I concur. Far too many Whites in our race realist community seem to be unable to unplug their brains from the jewish brainwashing matrix that has programmed them to crave & seek the approval, blessing, and cooperation of non-white races in the struggle for White survival.

    News Flash: Non-whites do not care one whit about whether the White race survives or not, aside from the lust of most non-white men to grab one of our pretty white females, so they can make a fancy hood ornament out of them and show them off to their non-white pals.

    But, believe me when I say that these non-white men who lecherously pursue White females do not burn a single brain cell calorie thinking about how that beautiful white female can only be created by a White man and White woman. IQ limitations kick in faster than normal, when animal urges are driving the disadvantaged brain.

    So, to my White brothers and White sisters – please stop asking non-whites for their permission for us to take the necessary steps to ensure our survival. This is our decision and our business and we do not need or want their approval.

  157. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    February 10, 2012 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Brother Jason? May I ask why should a White man get his hands dirty with such a gruesome task, when the black boyfriends of these race mixing white females are already pretty reliable in their predictable tendency to give their ‘conquests’ an early trip to the cemetery, once they’ve used them for pin cushions?

    And, how come we never see you posting any criticisms about these kinds of miscegenation horrors?

  158. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    Excellent point. The vast majority are far too busy with careers, family and so on the spend much time researching the fine points of the Frankfurt School. They also do not hate anyone, merely recognize that our current system is not working for the majority. New Orleans after Katrina hit home with many. Reality keeps intruding. Our task ought to be offering an intelligent, calm voice that has a vision of an alternative way of life.

    Americans are often all the foolish things that so many here take joy in highlighting, but we are also a pragmatic and revolutionary people.

  159. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    February 10, 2012 - 7:59 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows:
    Good advice. Good fortune in all your endeavors!

  160. February 10, 2012 - 7:07 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Generally, mountainous regions are overwhelmingly White, except where there is a city of some size like Little Rock, Arkansas.

  161. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 6:58 am | Permalink

    @Hadding Scott: This is a good point. It might be wiser, especially at this point, to use more subtle means of identification. By the way, moving to the Whitest area you can is a great, if not for the future, just for your psychological health. Beyond that, if you have kids, you have to think about who they will grow up around.

    I am stuck in a somewhat vibrant (i.e. multicultural ghetto) city at the moment – a mix of many types. It wears you down. You don’t run into that many people you can relate to, nor do most Whites feel free to talk even privately about race. I believe the census bureau has a site that breaks down counties by race. Might be worth looking into. If anyone has a better site that shows information, please forward it.

  162. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 6:49 am | Permalink

    @Mickey Meadows: try to return regularly to the sort of insights/expressions of frustration that an ordinary person out there in the world might be feeling just prior to that time when they seek out a site like this for the first time.

    Great point for all of us (at least me) to be reminded of. We should always be thinking of what a new, perhaps somewhat skittish and recently disillusioned White person is looking for when they come to this site.

    Just the gross unfairness of not being allowed to be a part of anything bigger than oneself, while all around other people from other groups can.

    Another great point. I think deep down the loss of meaning is affecting many Whites. They try and avoid it by burying themselves in mindless consumerism or pornography, but I do think, at least in the cultural sense, we may be approaching a break down of values and meaning that is actually recognized by large numbers of Whites.

    We need to be ready to explain to them the reasons for their angst. Why amongst all the wealth and material progress of our age, they may be less happy than the average villager in the Middle Ages.

  163. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    February 10, 2012 - 6:21 am | Permalink

    it’s good to have a moment of feeling hopeful and optimistic in a totally unforced and natural kind of way. This is such a moment, so thanks for the article Prof.KM.
    I’m not around so much in the comments now as I am more focused on my personal mission which is mainly to add value in the finance dimension, which is time consuming given already have family/work commitment.
    But keep it up all yous…what I notice is that when I come back to read the site after being away, my eyes are closer again to the person who comes for the first time. Some feedback for commenters would be….try to return regularly to the sort of insights/expressions of frustration that an ordinary person out there in the world might be feeling just prior to that time when they seek out a site like this for the first time.
    There’s not point worrying about people who are totally asleep because they aren’t coming here anyway. But those other people who tentatively make the first steps should be a major consideration. What is in their minds is most likely very much along the lines KM writes in this article (and gets mentioned a lot in many articles). Just the gross unfairness of not being allowed to be a part of anything bigger than oneself, while all around other people from other groups can.

  164. February 10, 2012 - 6:13 am | Permalink

    I think “Northwest Homeland Movement” is probably a misnomer. “Empty Quarter Homeland” might be more accurate. Spokane, where Kevin Harpham lived, is so far east it’s almost in Idaho. I don’t think coastal Washington and coastal Oregon have much to do with this. Many refugees from Mexifornia have moved to Idaho and Montana, but many also have moved to Colorado.

    I thinkJoel Garreau’s regional divisions of the USA leave something to be desired, though. For one thing he ignores the importance of mountains in making a region different. Mountains tend to define a place of retreat, and they are in various parts of the USA. I suppose that racial refugees from the Southeast in general would be more likely to relocate to Appalachia or the Ozarks than to move to the other side of the continent. Some people like the Dakotas too.

    The fact that some of the more racially conscious White people are congregating and overtly advocating White interests is a wonderful thing, but I would be wary of the label “Northwest Homeland” that the LA Times seems only too happy to bestow. They are implying that this concentration of racially conscious Whites is really a criminal conspiracy, a secessionist movement with accompanying terrorism as exemplified supposedly by Kevin Harpham. The perception of such a conspiracy could justify draconian action on the part of the Federal Government. It’s important to avoid that that appearance.

    There are de facto White homelands scattered around the country; no need to wave a flag and invite a cruise-missile.

  165. Franklin Ryckaert's Gravatar Franklin Ryckaert
    February 10, 2012 - 4:16 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:
    The image of a black man as an authority figure has an enormous influence on the white mind. That’s why you see it so much in films,TV and advertizement. The simple fact of a Black reading the news on TV already has this effect. It is all used to condition the White man to accept his own humiliation, marginalization and eventual demise. Another image often used is that of interracial relationships and that of the “happy mulatto child”. This is of course meant to promote miscegenation, the “soft” form of genocide. Jews are behind this all.

  166. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 10, 2012 - 3:24 am | Permalink

    @Steve: I worry about the impact of 4 more years of Obama. That will make 8 years of children growing up under a black man as the ultimate authority figure, the highest Alpha Male. “White Nationalists” seem rather blasé about it, because they hate all candidates equally as tools of “ZOG”. But I suspect that White kids who were 10 when Obama was elected and will be 18 when he leaves will be quite comfortable with black males having ultimate authority over them. They have seen this black male President issue death warrants against several high profile individuals who were deemed enemies of the state. Don’t minimize the psychological and cultural impact of this.

  167. tadzio's Gravatar tadzio
    February 10, 2012 - 2:34 am | Permalink

    Atlantic Canada is White. Its real estate is low cost. Prince Edward Island as a province has extensive law making powers. Its population is about 140,000. It is ripe for the picking.

  168. Dirk's Gravatar Dirk
    February 10, 2012 - 2:17 am | Permalink

    The idea of Europeans immigrating to Africa and displacing the locals is a thrilling idea: we will propose to trade Europe for Africa. The negro’s will have the cold continent and we will have the continent full of resources!

    Just a joke of course.

  169. Fenria's Gravatar Fenria
    February 10, 2012 - 12:26 am | Permalink

    If you live in a 80% – 90% white town, YOU MUST HOLD THE LINE THERE! We HAVE TO protect these places all over the country. These are our last refuges where we can raise children and avoid violent crime. We MUST keep these small towns majority white!

    We can’t allow developers to move in and build low income housing. We can’t allow block busting, forced busing, forced integration, and non white invasions into these small towns. These places are where white America still lives. They’re all we have left, and we have to hold onto them!

    Buy up land. Get your friends to do the same. Congregate in locations designated as PLE’s. Gaede’s Kalispell PLE is a great start. We can start these small PLE’s all over the country, anywhere there is a majority white population and the geographic network allowing the town to stay majority white.

    Get out of the big cities! They are lost and your talents are wasted on them. Concentrate on saving the small, majority white towns.

    One of the biggest problems with our movement is that we’re too spread out. We have to come together in places designated to become white homelands. We have to make our presence known on the streets, not in a violent way, but in a confident, “we are here to stay” way.

    Turn off the tv. Buy land. Protect and save the small towns. If we lose them, we lose the only last refuges that we have.

  170. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    February 9, 2012 - 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Kevin, you are absolutely right. Anglo-White America does indeed need a revolution, an ideological revolution in thought! Nothing more, nothing less. The LA Times is, of course, the major newspaper in the L.A. basin, and, for the last 50 years has been nothing but a font of liberal/Judeo anti-White propaganda. I wouldn’t clean up dog shit with that despicable rag.

  171. Steve's Gravatar Steve
    February 9, 2012 - 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of the Jewish media trying to keep Whites in check, there has been a dramatic increase of anti-White propaganda throughout the entire spectrum of the mass media since Obama took office; whether movies, sitcoms, or commercials. I don’t know which is worse, the shows or the commercials. In any case, Whites are usually portrayed as racist, dumb, or incompetent while minorities are the new sacred cow. I’m sure the Jewish media owners saw blood when Obama was elected and went into full propaganda mode against the White majority.

    I’ve noticed that prior to the mid 1960’s, most movies were made for simple entertainment with a few exceptions. The real change started in the mid 1960’s when Hollywood started creating movies with slapstick humor and interracial scenes. Some of these movies are; Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, Hurry Sundown, Sunday in New York, Repulsion, 100 Rifles, The Happy Ending, etc., to name a few.

    I believe the Hollywood elites coordinated their efforts against Whites with other Jewish achievements such as the Civil Rights movement, the 1965 Immigration Act, and the Kennedy assassination. And since that time the mass media has methodically and consistently engaged in the “culture of critique” by airing anything and everything to systematically attack the White majority through diversity, feminism, gay rights, depravity, anti-White themes, and anti-Christian themes. Over the last four decades the Jewish media owners have slowly chipped away many cultural safeguards that were in check, working in tandem with their Jewish colleagues in politics and banking.

    And just in case you didn’t know, most of these anti-White advertising commercials you see on television and in print are created by the world’s largest advertising agency called WPP. Two Jews run the company; Chairman Philip Lader (Council on Foreign Relations), and CEO Martin Sorrell. Phil Lader even hosts annual meetings for future world business leaders at his mansion in North Carolina. My instincts tell me he’s a buddy of the Rothschild dynasty.

  172. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 9:18 pm | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks:

    @blue rose: The main problem with any collaboration with Hispanics or Africans is that our interests aren’t really aligned. For the most part, they don’t really want to be totally separate from us, what they really is to exist as parasites on Whites. They want access to all the great things White produce.

    Absolutely. The only solution at this point in time is when Northwest or any White Separatist is called before the MSM podium for an ‘explanation’, to just keep pounding it into the face of the public there are Hasidic /Orthodox communities all over the country, tightly contained and self-sufficient, and the same will be for Sharia Law Islamic neighborhoods. Let the speakers do demographic research and show pictures of these neighborhoods — specifically like the one posted about the 3 ‘youths’ that slightly hit an Hasidic on the head, where the police were there in 3 minutes flat, and the group rounded up before they ever got a chance to leave town. Did you notice the neighborhood those Hasidics lived in? A rurual country setting. I forget what state though. But it’s there in the video clip.

    Then, a few choice statements a la William Pierce perhaps, of the Jewish modus operandi on the Jewish demographics, and in time Jewish secrecy is exposed, and that will be at least 90% of the battle.

  173. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 9:09 pm | Permalink

    @icr:

    The fact that the Mexican Nats are partially state-sponsored makes the idea even worse.

    GREAT POINT, icr.

    @ Bannister — you paying attention here?

  174. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 9:05 pm | Permalink

    @Bannister:

    My larger point: If the media suddenly descended upon a Northwest White Nationalist group, why not have a LaRaza spokesperson also there, sitting beside the white nationalists, saying “Yes, we agree with them. We share the same goals of racial separation.”

    Nope. EPIC FAIL.

    Northwest needs LaRaza holding its hand? I don’t think so. It’s because of LaRaza’s demands all Mexicans be allowed in, along with their drug cartels, and their network of getting these illegals on to the public taxpayer dole that LaRaza is one of the main problems as it is.

    And when Northwest needs an non-white ethnic daddy to hold its hand in front of the MSM podium, that’s when I turn away. It will just turn into the same-old, same-old, with Whites on the bottom.

  175. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 8:55 pm | Permalink

    @Bill Yancey: Yes, if some extra people could take the time to post pro-White statements, that would be great.

  176. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    February 9, 2012 - 8:49 pm | Permalink

    @Bannister: There is a way that is respectful of elemental human rights and that is the privatization of property. In the same way I can exclude tramps from my lounge-room without challenge to any moral legitimacy, if public spaces were privatized, interlopers could be denied entry.

  177. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 8:48 pm | Permalink

    @Bannister:

    Along these lines, this is why I am not opposed to networking with LaRaza groups, Hasidic Groups (who have orthodox communities) Blacks (who have Howard Univeristy) and Asians (who have “Chinatowns” in every major US city) .

    What a helluva vision for the US — broken up into all manner of ethnic communities like this.

    But you are missing my point. ‘Networking’ with these groups only invite infiltrations into the Northwest Homeland. Many of them look white as it is. Networking will allow them to be privy to Northwest plans, how it operates, things like that. If you think just because all these other non-white ethnicities would be playing fair on any level with Northwest, you’d best rethink all that. No ‘networking’ is what I say.

    My point being: at this point in time when Northwest is called to the MSN podium to ‘explain itself’ or ‘apologize’ whatever — all main talking points should stay on focus in the public’s face that all these ethnics already have their own communities, most notably the Jewish/Hasidics/Orthodox and the newest arrivals, the Sharia Law enclosed neighborhoods. Let it be known if you are hellbent on bringing down Northwest, the rest of your ethnic communities are coming down too.

    To hell with ‘networking’ and kissing the ethnics’ ass. Sorry for the vulgar.

  178. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 9, 2012 - 8:43 pm | Permalink

    I honestly think the PW is a bad idea. Nothing short of an island would keep us safe from the violent third world masses. Think Greenland, Iceland, or maybe one of the Alaskan islands. Somewhere north, where it’s cooler and geographically isolated.

  179. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 8:40 pm | Permalink

    @icr:

    Not to mention they bring in the ENTIRE Mexican drug cartel along with their families. And if it weren’t for LaRaza and all these other non-white ethnic organizations pushing for their own, well there wouldn’t have been a thought for a need for a Northwest Homeland in the first place.

  180. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 8:03 pm | Permalink

    @Bannister: …why not have a LaRaza spokesperson also there, sitting beside the white nationalists, saying “Yes, we agree with them. We share the same goals of racial separation.”

    I don’t think you would ever get a La Raza spokesmen or NAACP person to do that. If La Raza really wanted to be separate, well, couldn’t they have just stayed in Mexico? However, if you could get people from several different races to say they each agreed they preferred to live among their own in a public forum, that would certainly be noteworthy.

    But, my impression is, La Raza has no reason to help us. They are getting what they want, why would throw us a bone?

  181. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 7:56 pm | Permalink

    @Bruce: Well said, and it’s as simple as that. We just want some land and people we value like ourselves, to build an authentic community. It’s not about hurting anyone, genocide or cruelty.

  182. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    February 9, 2012 - 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the article, Dr. MacDonald.

    Thanks to all the White men and women who have given time, effort and love to the Northwest homeland.

    What a beautiful vision. That’s a heavenly thought, a place for White people. Whenever I imagine that kind of place, my soul feels nourished and rejuvenated. I believe multiculturalism is toxic for our souls, in so many ways.

    I’ve never been the Northwest, but it sounds beautiful.

    Thanks again to those who decided to do something good for White people.

  183. Bannister's Gravatar Bannister
    February 9, 2012 - 7:51 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: Blue Rose – I just read this post, I think that calling attention to other “nationalist” groups like the Hasidic community is a GREAT SUGGESTION because it 1) exposes Jewish hypocrisy and 2) because it provides an real-life example of peaceful ethnic communities to the media.

    Along these lines, this is why I am not opposed to networking with LaRaza groups, Hasidic Groups (who have orthodox communities) Blacks (who have Howard Univeristy) and Asians (who have “Chinatowns” in every major US city)

  184. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 7:46 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose: The main problem with any collaboration with Hispanics or Africans is that our interests aren’t really aligned. For the most part, they don’t really want to be totally separate from us, what they really is to exist as parasites on Whites. They want access to all the great things White produce.

    Second, neither Mestizos nor Africans can really speak on their own behalf. Their place in the sun is really made possible by Jews, not themselves. If this was just a battle of Whites vs. blacks or Whites vs. Mestizos, it could be wrapped up over Spring break. No, they are ultimately both pawns. Now, they are a threat, they are opponents and they must be countered. It’s just that without their Jewish brain (and the help of White liberals like Bill Moyers, Phil Donahue and Robert Wright), they wouldn’t get very far.

  185. Bannister's Gravatar Bannister
    February 9, 2012 - 7:43 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    Even in outright war, enemies communicate to each other, they negotiate peace treaties, surrender treaties, etc.

    I regard Multiculturalist to be the TRUE enemy, but I do not regard Black or Hispanic nationalists to be “the enemy” in the same way. I see them as merely another nationalist group. As long as they seek separation, we are on the same page.

    My larger point: If the media suddenly descended upon a Northwest White Nationalist group, why not have a LaRaza spokesperson also there, sitting beside the white nationalists, saying “Yes, we agree with them. We share the same goals of racial separation.”

    That would throw the media for a loop – and believe me, seeing White Nationalists and Hispanic Nationalists cooperating would be the LAST thing that Jews and multiculturalists would want to see….

  186. icr's Gravatar icr
    February 9, 2012 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

    @blue rose:

    Right. La Raza/MECHA types are seriously dumb-consulting with them will only worsen whatever difficulties you already have. I knew some Marquette park Hollywood Nazis in the old days-at least those guys were capable of a bit of abstract thinking.

    The fact that the Mexican Nats are partially state-sponsored makes the idea even worse.

  187. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 7:16 pm | Permalink

    @mari:

    That was good insight, mari. Thank you.

  188. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 7:12 pm | Permalink

    In many places in the US one finds communities set aside for the Hasidics/Orthodox and now Islamic Sharia Law neighborhoods, even in places one would least expect to find them. The Hasidics have their yeshivas (Jew-only schools), probably Muslims have something, and Jewish doctors probably have their private medical practices located in the Hasidic neighborhoods, plus their own stores for clothes and food. In other words these invisibly enclosed Hasidic/Orthodox (and now Islamic) communities are self-contained.

    All the Northwest Homeland front needs to do when ‘called to the podium’ is to continually put before the public just what these Hasidic/Orthodox Jewish communities are all about (and throw in the Islamic communities for good measure) — little (or fairly big) parcels of land set aside for their own kind. Keep THIS in the public face, and you will have unmasked a great deal of Zionist/neocon/Hasidic expanse in the US that most of the public have never saw or thought about before, and exposed the Jews for hypocrticial two-faced B-S artists. Emphasize how self-contained these neighborhoods are, and mention how when the 3 black ‘youths’ slightly mugged an Hasidic (video on ‘Only Whites Are Racists in Duluth’, note how the police were there in 3 minutes of the incidents and all 3 perps were caught before they even left town. How often do things workk so seamlessly for White communities these days?

  189. mari's Gravatar mari
    February 9, 2012 - 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Thsi is my standard reply to any and all hysteria about White supremacists.

    ” Every 10 man White supremacist Aryan Nation cell consists of 2 FBI agents, 2 ATF agents, 2 ADL provacateurs, 2 SPLC provacatuers, 1 Israeli fundraiser and 1 White Christian goy from the local home for developmentally disabled adults.

    The reporter whose name is attached to this anti White racist smear piece did not write it. This is a standard SPLC ADL press release.

  190. blue rose's Gravatar blue rose
    February 9, 2012 - 7:00 pm | Permalink

    @Bannister:

    Can we collaborate with LaRaza people who want to establish a homeland in LA? (let them have it)

    Collaborating with the enemy? California is already a mess. How soon will LaRaza be threatening a Northwest Homeland after California is thoroughly destroyed? And why even pay LaRaza a compliment by going to them in the first place? Seems one is simply legitimizing them by so doing.

  191. Bruce's Gravatar Bruce
    February 9, 2012 - 6:57 pm | Permalink

    If Israel can be a country for ethnic Jews why can’t White people have their own territory ?
    I don’t want to steal land from anyone else or commit genocide. I just want to live with people like me.

  192. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    February 9, 2012 - 6:48 pm | Permalink

    …but I guess we are supposed to think that Whites who are motivated to have a place to call their own are basically bomb throwers at heart.

    No, no, just a few guys that want to behead White females that race-mix, and of course, we can’t challenge them, that would be divisive. Sorry couldn’t resist.

  193. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    February 9, 2012 - 6:35 pm | Permalink

    The LATimes is not taken seriously by any White who is the least bit conservative. It’s pretty much regarded as a joke in terms of real reporting. John and Ken at KFI-640 regularly use the paper as a punching bag being incompetent and even deliberately lying. Think print version of CNN.

    And Media Matters, the only people who take that seriously are Leftist college students still living off mom and dad’s dime.

  194. Bobby's Gravatar Bobby
    February 9, 2012 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

    @90404: Once again, I must repeat the interesting phenomenon, created by the Los Angeles Times about 15 years ago. For people who might not live in Southern California, there is a Beach here called Huntington Beach. About 15 years back, some white surfer type teenagers around 19 years old that lived in Huntington Beach, decided to beat up on some old guy. I can’t remember if he was white, black, hispanic,etc. but most likely one of the last two. While this was shear stupid teenage hooliganism, the man just wasn’t that hurt, certainly not like the Times nows how badly people get hurt when many of Los Angeles’ fifty two thousand gangs get a hold of them. But, the Los Angeles Times got wind of the story, and immediately labeled those white punks “skin heads”, which they weren’t. In true Los Angeles Times leftist fashion, they kept repeating this story as if some kind of follow up was needed ten or twelve times, each time emphasizing that the punks were “skinheads”, rather than idiotic bored teens with nothing to do. So a friend of mine, aware of how insane the whole repetition of the story was becoming, decided to do what is often done in psychological laboratories around the world, create a New Concept CALLED THE HUNTIINGTON BEACH SKINHEAD PHENOMENON, which refers to bored white teenagers that become slightly physical towards people. The Huntington Beach “skinhead” concept, is the slight physical aggressiveness sometimes perpetrated on people by skinny white kids, that do not neccessarily have to live in Huntington Beach. The Los Angeles Times and the society of American Psychologists, havn’t yet used the term Huntington Beach Skinhead, being satisfied with calling them white SKINHEADS instead, even if their hair is shoulder length. It’s just the typica crap that the Los Angeles Times has been doing for years. The very existence of the black and hispanic gangs could be verified by the Times reporters, if they’d just look out the window of their building, which is in true gang territory, but I guess it would be a reality too blindingly true to those leftists on the Times staff.

  195. icr's Gravatar icr
    February 9, 2012 - 6:26 pm | Permalink

    @fender:

    TOQ contributor won James Russell 32% of the vote in the NY 18th Congressional District race in 2008. He ran gain in 2010. About one month before the 2010 election he was widely outed (http://tinyurl.com/7j2nd57) as a “racist” and “anti-Semite” by the MSM. The NY GOP even attempted to get “their” candidate removed from the ballot.

    Come election day Russell increases his share of the vote to 38%. This in a district that is one-third non-white (2010 census) and, given its location (just north of NYC), is certain to have a large Jewish population. It’s true that he benefited from the GOP bump of 201O- but all the voters were informed that he was a racist pariah and he increased his share of the vote anyway.

    So, I guess, forget the PNW and shift the focus to suburban NYC. :)

  196. Bill Yancey's Gravatar Bill Yancey
    February 9, 2012 - 6:09 pm | Permalink

    OOPS! The LA Times forgot to turn their comments section off.

  197. fender's Gravatar fender
    February 9, 2012 - 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Isn’t the Northwest full of hippies, socialists, and hipsters? There’s a statue of Lenin in Seattle for God’s sake. Any pro-Whites who move there better be ready to take on a whole bunch of dopey anti-fas.

  198. Bannister's Gravatar Bannister
    February 9, 2012 - 5:24 pm | Permalink

    A big part of our challenge is developing an intellectually viable and morally defensible vision that can be shared with hostile media. For example, Kevin Macdonald states that:

    “The U.S. government and the entire political and cultural establishment loves the idea of Israel as a Jewish state, and isn’t bothered in the least by the fact that it is an apartheid state actively engaged in ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians—a far more radical and violent program than proposed by those who want a White homeland in the already White Northwest.”

    Okay – but how is a “White homeland” that keeps out Blacks and Hispanics much different from a “Jewish homeland” that keeps out Palestinians? By definition, both must involve 1) Laws to keep certain people out and 2) Walls and police to enforce those laws. Legally speaking, those things WOULD BE ILLEGAL in America because of the Civil Rights Act which permits anyone to live anywhere.

    Don’t get me wrong – I like the idea of a “White homeland” in the United States and I like the idea of “mini-homelands” such as small towns that remain majority white. But where are the ATTORNEYS who will put up a viable defense of such a plan? Can we collaborate with LaRaza people who want to establish a homeland in LA? (let them have it) If White Nationalists had a JOINT CONFERENCE with Hispanic Nationalists, that may neutralize the media somewhat.

    In any event, we need smart, legally minded Public Relations people who will speak to the media when they come asking legitimate questions. Otherwise, they will assume the worst.

  199. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    February 9, 2012 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

    This is the same paper that
    1…put a black indigent 500 pound drag queen on the cover
    [human interest story?]

    2…did another cover story ‘ MORE IMMIGRANTS ARE GOING HUNGRY’

    I live in lala land so I know that paper well…
    also,,,The Unfair campaign poster..if you facebook PLEASE
    put it on yr page and label it hate speech etc.

    more sh*t from huffington..KMD care to comment:

    political leanings and how you see reality are influenced by evolution and biology.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-moo … r=Politics

  200. KingTut's Gravatar KingTut
    February 9, 2012 - 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Jews can have their homeland, Whites cannot. Strange thing, indeed.

    That would certainly give weight to an old European adage, maybe of Jewish origin: “Success legitimates everything”.

    If you’re the strongest, you can push whatever agenda you want. Morality and law become irrelevant because you create them.

  201. Tommyboy's Gravatar Tommyboy
    February 9, 2012 - 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Great reporting, Dr. Mac. The irony of a Jewish minority transmogrified into a ruling hostile elite is apparent for all who wish to see the truth. What is it this group fears? The main thing that contradicts and confounds their constantly conjured up utopias–Christianity. In their utopias, they envision themselves as an enlightened ruling body, but the reality of the socialist systems they’ve foisted upon a gullible world is gruesome in its horror, depravity and scope. Whites; however, can’t escape to some Northwest redoubt and expect these hostile elites to leave them be. No, they better plan for
    a visit by the some special ops forces currently in Syria.

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