Writing in The Guardian, Charlie Skelton has produced a remarkable piece of journalism aimed at unearthing the connections among the Syrian opposition and their friends in high places in the West ( “The Syrian opposition: who’s doing the talking?“). The take home message is that there are two groups of non-Syrians who are promoting regime change: globalists and neocons—two powerful forces indeed. One can certainly understand that there would be disaffected Syrians—there are dissidents in every regime, and especially so in a society riven with religious and ethnic divisions with a government dominated by an ethnic and religious minority, the Alawites. But the ever greater success of the insurgency seems unlikely without powerful allies in the West.
Among the globalists, there is Bassma Kodmani of the Syrian National Council and her ties to the Bilderberg group and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and in particular, the CFR’s US/Middle East Project headed by Brent Scowcroft. Skelton also notes that Zbigniew Brzezinski and Peter Sutherland are on the board of the US/MEP.
Sutherland is chairman of Goldman Sachs International and is a major player in the Bilderberg group. He is particularly loathsome character who, as “UN special representative on migration,” has been a strong advocate for the dissolution of all traces of European national identity based on a common peoplehood and a common culture (“EU should ‘undermine national homogeneity’ says UN migration chief.“) Sutherland cynically argues that the EU must have high levels of migration in order to care for an aging population, in the belief that that might be appealing to native Europeans. But it’s clear that he sees multiculturalism and the dissolution of European cultural and ethnic identities as intrinsically positive goals. As indicated in the article, these goals are to be pursued even if the migrants take jobs from natives.
Scowcroft’s US/MEP is quite critical of Israel. For example, it now features an article, “Israel in peril,” discussing Israel’s “irrational” and “suicidal” policies in creating “Bantustans” on the West Bank. This puts them at odds with the neocons. Indeed, Bill Kristol recently boasted about how a major accomplishment of the neocons was to get people like Scowcroft and other “old-fashioned Arabists” out of the Republican Party.
Centered mainly on pro-Israel advocacy, the neocons mentioned by Skelton are an influential contingent in the opposition to the Syrian government. The most obvious motivation is that Syria is allied with Iran, Israel’s arch-enemy. (Dennis Ross, a longtime pro-Israel activist [he was head of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy], should be included in this category.) Prominent neocons mentioned by Skelton include Michael Weiss (“the director of communications and public relations at the Henry Jackson Society, an ultra-ultra-hawkish foreign policy thinktank.” Henry Jackson is a sainted figure in neocon lore (see here, p. 27ff), hiring figures such as Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz as foreign policy aides well before they became synonymous with promoting eternal war on behalf of Israel. Other luminaries of the Henry Jackson Society mentioned in the article are a Who’s Who of neocons: Perle, Bill Kristol, Joshua Muravchik, and Robert Kagan. In a manner quite analogous to the role of Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and Abram Schulsky in creating the WMD myth in the lead up to the war in Iraq (see previous link, p. 48ff), Weiss’s function seems to be to produce atrocity propaganda for the media. For example,
On 1 January, Nick Cohen wrote in the Observer [in an op-ed titled, “The west has a duty to intervene in Syria; Those who continue to appease President Bashar al-Assad also have blood on their hands”: “To grasp the scale of the barbarism, listen to Hamza Fakher, a pro-democracy activist, who is one of the most reliable sources on the crimes the regime’s news blackout hides.”
He goes on to recount Fakher’s horrific tales of torture and mass murder. Fakher tells Cohen of a new hot-plate torture technique that he’s heard about: “imagine all the melting flesh reaching the bone before the detainee falls on the plate”. The following day, Shamik Das, writing on “evidence-based” progressive blog Left Foot Forward, quotes the same source: “Hamza Fakher, a pro-democracy activist, describes the sickening reality …” – and the account of atrocities given to Cohen is repeated.
It turns out the Fakher is deeply enmeshed in the Henry Jackson Society.
Given support from both the US/MEP and the neocons, it’s not surprising that the US government is deeply involved in supporting the Syrian opposition. For example, Skelton notes that the US State Department has funded the Democracy Council which supports opposition propaganda programs and exile groups. It is not at all surprising that there are credible reports (see also here and Skelton’s article) that the CIA is involved in providing military aid for the rebels.
Facing the Future as a Minority
My question in all of this is how does Israel benefit from toppling the government in Syria? I doubt the west will have any luck installing a puppet regime there; most likely, Islam will come to power as it has in Egypt, so it makes no sense for the neocons and Israel to topple the devil they know in exchange for one they don’t. What part of this am I not seeing? There has to be something else to this, but I just don’t see it.
It’s the same thing with Libya. What good does it do the west or Israel to have Ghadaffi out of power? Yeah he was brutal to his own people, but it’s not like Israel cares about that. All Israel cares about is it’s own hegemony in the region, and Ghadaffi was certainly no threat to that. The same with Assad. He might be an annoyance to Israel, but he’s certainly not the threat that an Islamic fundamentalist government in Syria would be. I just don’t see what the gain is for the neocons to overthrow a person like Assad. They don’t have anyone lined up to take his place. Is it just to simply cause total instability in the region so that Israel can continue to stay at the top of the chaotic heap?
I think the most obvious and immediate reason is that Syria is allied with Iran, Israel’s arch enemy at the moment. When Syria goes down, Iran loses power in the region.
@Fenria:
Is it just to simply cause total instability in the region so that Israel can continue to stay at the top of the chaotic heap?
You are a bright woman, you got it in one.
Read the PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, there was also another white paper from JINSA, I can’t recall its title just now perhaps Dr MacDonald will be able to tell us, they both spoke of destabilizing the governments of Iraq and the others so that it would dissolve into tribal warfare and sectarian violence, this way there is no organized and effective threat to Israel. They told us all long before they did it, and the whole Arab Spring was directed from Washington DC and Tel Aviv.
My Arabic is even weaker than my English: Is “Fakher” pronounced like, say, “FAY-cur” or the like?!?
@Shiva: Exactly. Israel views itself as secure only when all of its neighboring states are either enslaved by compliant puppets (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt until recently) or destabilized and thrown into chaos (Iraq, Lebanon, Syria). But additionally, Israel wants the West to destroy Iran and sees war in Syria as a way to provoke Iran.
Israel’s view of the conditions that favor its survival (its neighbors’ atomization) parallels Judaism’s view that non-Jews should be psychologically, morally, and genetically destabilized.
Whilst it is obvious that there are major Arab players pushing their own agenda, like those “democracy and freedom” advocates Saudi Arabia and Qatar, in Syria (who by their actions provide convenient cover for the agenda of those in the West) the only interest that a neo-con sock puppet like “British” Foreign Secretary Haigh has in promoting internal war in Syria are the interests of Israel.
Promoting internal strife and mayhem in Syria is just the latest neo-con export enterprise.
Haigh was at the centre of the promotion of the previous “regime change” overthrow of Ghaddaffi in Libya with the outrageous use of British Armed Forces as a proxy mercenary tool for creating another backward wilderness of competing ruled by the gun rife-striven Islamic warlord chaos and consequently weak as regional players and thus the aim being to benefit Israeli hegemony.
All the usual loud mouthed “Leftists” did at the time of Libya was to cry their “It’s the OIL stupid” routine but still the oil does not flow and nothing works but when, as is obvious is in the long-running case of Afghanistan and now Syria, there obviously isn’t any OIL to be “stupid” their cupboard is bare and they can only talk in vague terms about other mineral wealth up for grabs but never mention, it is totally taboo to do so, that Israel as a vested interest in divide and rule.
It suits the extremists running Israel to have these chaotic and backward Islamic “states” which, whilst they might seem more dangerous in promoting random acts of terrorism, are not a danger to the State of Israel and are thus handy tools for keeping their own population in line.
Thus we see that the latest random act of terrorism like the one which has recently taken place in Bulgaria then used to internalise and enforce a “beleaguered” Jewish siege mentality especially whenever there are signs of civil unrest (which is currently at a high point in Israel) and terrorist acts also rallies support for Israel among the Diaspora.
To have Tribal chaotic divided strife ridden societies as their neighbours is considered far more in Israel’s interest than strongman centralised States like Saddam Hussein’s Iraq or Assad’s Syria or a federalised one like Libya (the very different way Israel’s ideological enemy Ghaddaffi kept his hold on power in Libya for so many years until overthrown by the Israeli proxy of the “West” and and subsequently tortured and murdered by Islamic extremists ) as random acts of terror only consolidate Israel whilst strongman States are considered dangerous and curtail the aim of Israeli hegemony and expansionism.
A major part of the U.S. media’s propaganda effort has been to downplay the lead role played militarily by the Muslim Brotherhood (with its history of terrorism) in the fighting against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The Muslim Brotherhood is abetted by al Qaeda. This is, of course, embarrassing for Washington. However, so great is its — along with Israel and the Sunni dictatorships of the Persian Gulf — desire to weaken Iran and Hezbollah, the price of support is seen as worth it. The Alowites (an offshoot of Shia Islam) do have support from different Syrian minorities — Christians, Druze, Ismailis, and others — who fear the Sunnis of the Muslim Brotherhood.
@Hedgerow: Make that “Alawites,” which is the more common spelling.
@D. K.:
Fakher is pronounced as Fah-kher ( the ‘kh’ sound is pronounced as the ‘ch’ in Loch Ness ). It is derived from the Arabic word fakhr, meaning “pride”.
@Dr. Faust:
As the turkish jet downing showed, Syria has some capable anti-aircraft systems. If these systems are neutralized, the “flyover” path from Israel to Iran lies open.
No question the West is arming and financing the Wahabi legions that are creating mayhem in Syria.
As to Libya, glib talk of the “brutal” nature of the regime conveniently bypasses certain facts: Libyans enjoyed the best standard of living in Africa–complete with lots of government support for young families, oil subsidies, etc, etc. Oh–and they not only were not tied into the worldwide Rothschild/central bank octopus (cf Sutherland’s resume above), but also they were advocating a gold-based African Dinar currency that would have likewise bypassed the central bankers. Ever wonder why one of the first acts of the “reformers” we installed in Libya was to create a Rothschild-system central bank? And this was done very early to establish bona fides–I think Gadafi was still alive at the time.
Prof MacDonald is astute to show the footprints of the globalists and neo-cons in all this. But the funding ultimately comes from the central banking system–and the families who own it.
@Shiva
Another analysis is that establishing radical muslim gouvernments in border states of Israel will legitimate “defensive” wars of expansion in order to grow to the Great Israel, from the river Nile to the river Euphrates.
@Fenria: Your confusion is well warranted, Fenria. The very same questions could apply to why the jews are turning America and every other historic White Western European nation into a mult-racial, multi-cultural cesspool – all of which are 100 percent guaranteed to eventually erupt in bloody and horrific ethnic violence. Which will destroy the White West, who have been the biggest, most nutritious, and most gullible victims of jewish vampirism of any nation in world history.
Perhaps Maurice Samuels gave us the answer in his book titled ‘You Gentiles’:
“We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.” (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
Its been a long term Israeli objective to destabilize Syria. Bibi had a group come up with a plan called “A Clean Break” in the 1990s.
The reason to invade Iraq was part of a report of a Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000, for Bibi Nethanyahu.
Former United States Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle was the “Study Group Leader”, but the final report included ideas from James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Robert Loewenberg, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser.
The plan proposed new policies:
1. Rather than pursuing a “comprehensive peace” with the entire Arab world, Israel should work to “contain, destabilize, and roll-back” those entities that are threats.
“SYRIA challenges Israel on Lebanese soil. An effective approach, and one with which American can sympathize, would be if Israel seized the strategic initiative along its northern borders by engaging Hizballah, Syria, and Iran, as the principal agents of aggression in Lebanon,
That given the nature of the regime in Damascus, it is both natural and moral that Israel abandon the slogan comprehensive peace and move to contain Syria, drawing attention to its weapons of mass destruction programs, and rejecting land for peace deals on the Golan Heights.
That Israel can shape its strategic environment, by focusing on removing Saddam Hussein from power in IRAQ.— an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.
The plan was prepared before GWB got elected and all those involved worked for Donald Rumsfeld at one time.
For an in depth review: http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/clean_break.htm
@Fenria:
Bibi Netanyahu is on Fox News this morning announcing that Israel must take control of Syria’s chemical weapons as the country falls into chaos. Chaos seems to be the goal in everything they do.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
[Pssst! I actually knew that, Franklin. I was intending to make a ('Curveball'-inspired) joke about such predictable claims of one-sided attrocities-- although, in retrospect, it would have been rendered somewhat better as "FEY-cur" rather than "FAY-cur," methinks!?! Ah, pues.... Please, keep it under your fez! ;-)]
It seemed that the government had the insurgency dead to rights not that long ago. There must have been a truly massive influx of weaponry via Turkey to cause this w/o direct intervention. Syria’s army has many problems in terms of internal divisions and their Russian equipment may be aging, but they are far removed from the Libyan “army”.
Remember the history of Syria! It is closely allied to the Crusades. Many Crusaders stayed behind and settled in the territory we know today as Syria. More recently, Syria (like Lebanon) came under French influence and more Euro-Arab-Turkic breeding took place.
Thus, Israel (and Amerika) are yet again seen to be brutally attacking people with European blood.
Something similar could be said about Libya. I have worked in Libya, and know the place well. From the 1970s onwards, many Libyans took British wives. Heaven knows what their fates were when the NATO sponsored Wahabi scum took over the place.
This is not going to end peacefully or pleasantly for our Jewish diaspora. More and more I see the prophecy from the Koran coming true … that even the trees will whisper, “look behind me, there hides a Jew”.
With nowhere to hide, the real and final slaughter will begin and it won’t end until this endless problem is finally eradicated.
@Everyone
The idea behind the attacks on Syria is like Kevin MacDonald pointed out; they are Iran’s allies. As Anglo Saxon rightly pointed out, Syria has a good dose of European blood, but I might also add, so does Iran- the leftovers of the “Aryans” or as I would call them- Northern Israelites that did not take the second exodus into Europe proper like the majority of their racial kin did.
These ongoing wars in the ME are of course for the benefit of “Israel” because the material Zionists MUST extend the borders to mimic OT prophesy and scriptures concern old and united Israel from some 3000 years ago. Only then can one stand up and proclaim “The prophesies have been fulfilled” setting the stage of the New World Government that needs to have the 3 monolithic religions in agreement before it can effectively rule.
The man who will head this must be the “Chief Priest” of a new world religion and the “Chief Executive” for the New World Government. The first one will be a bad guy propped up by the “Jews”, the second, the true Lord’s return.
This is why I proposed a 3 step solution as I did before.
For all the WN’s out there that simply want the illegal, “Jews” etc out of our lands- this will not work. We are global world now as we are being pushed out of our National Homelands and this designed by the “Jews” who control our immigration. We will have to win on our home fronts but then switch the tables on the “Jews” at the last minute.
For those who desire a total return to non interventionism- that gig is up. It is a battle now whether you or I like it for control of the West and the World Government being erected, controlled and directed by the “Jews”.
For those who want to dismiss “religion”- you can’t without cutting your own throat. Add up the number of peoples who subscribe to Christianity, Judaism or Islam. That type of view is completely unrealistic.
If we are to ever have peace and security- it will have to come by way of the will and good graces of the creator/savior. Prophesy will indeed by fulfilled, but not by those imposters from Esau-Edom. They are prophesied to be destroyed.
Recently a high ranking “Jew” said that “Israel” was the white mans. I agree and they are not the “white man”- we are. They are not true Judah/Israel- we are!
Solution:
Step one. Take back America by way of re-inhabiting our lawful Governments which trump under law, the de facto Corporation UNITED STATES run by the “Jews” and their cohorts. Kick out all with dual loyalties and then all the illegals. This can happen peacefully or by way of force. Let’s hope for the peaceful solution to this first step.
Where will the “Jews” running from America go? Why of course- to “Israel” that’s where! Perfect!
Next, Step 2- continue to watch these lunatics attack everyone in the ME. We cannot stop them. They are doomed anyhow. The fake state of “Israel” is on the way down just as the US Corporation is. When the time is right, make our lawful claim to inhabit our forefathers land and if need be, execute it with force. It may not be necessary because before too long, the “Jews” will be calling upon our aid in the region to fill up the lands they have ethnically cleansed. It will be either that or die. It would be good if all White nations in Europe, Australia, SA, New Zealand, Russia, America etc etc, joined in when the call goes out. The “Jews” will need us because there is no way on earth they can take on the entire ME and then the aspirations of the Asian powers alone with their piddly population of psychopaths.
When this happens, when we flood the lands-we make it our joint first priority to “ethnically cleans” the state of “Israel” of all Esau “Jews”, sending them home to their countries of origin. The few that might remain- the few decent ones who opposed their psychotic leaders- we can consider if they can stay.
Step 3-
Once the Esau “Jews” are out of the way we return power to our brother nations worldwide. Then they all (if they have not already) can set things right in their neck of the woods. We make it crystal clear to the Asian powers and what is left of the Arab/Islamic nations that we want to peace. Holding the reigns of the ME and our homeland’s again, I doubt any of them, save maybe the Chinese, will think of challenging us. If they do, we make them pay until they submit to accepting the fact that they are allowed to only control their own nation- not any of our nations or regions we influence-control.
Step 4-
Have a fair trial for the world to watch as we bring the criminals in high places (mostly the “Jews”) up on charges for all of the crimes they have committed against humanity.
I think this scenario is how it will boil down whether or not people in this forum like it. This is how it will go- wait and watch.
When debating (as much as one can debate the insane) Christian Zionists/Neocons I ask them one question: “Why pour money and time into Israel when you could directly aid Middle Eastern Christians? ” This inevitably is met by a blank stare (or no reply online) or weak equivocation. Our goals of White racial enhancement are secular but I’ve found this is a good wrench to throw in enemy equipment.
@Snake:
Well, I am not a Chrisian Zionist nor do I support the so called Jews. I have asked Christian Zionists the same question as you posed above and they cannot answer it-true. True Christians should not be supporting the enemy of God and Man- the Esau fake “Jews”, end of story.
You said:
“Our goals of White racial enhancement are secular ”
Answer:Do you have a mouse in your pocket? The “Jews” run the secular movements. The “Jews” also run main stream Christianity that is presently apostate. Hence, the goal of white racial enhancement is not a “secular cause” although some secular people do indeed support it. It needs to be religious cause first and foremost because lawful claims to the land that will be needed to kick out of the “Esau” Jews and bring these imposters up on charges (something that must be done) are based upon biblical law- not legal fictions that secularists control. Like I always say “law trumps legalities”.
Secular thought is the vehical that broke down the white family, national unity. Up until the 50′s bibles were in all schools. When the Jewish secular and communistic counter culture war happened, secular ways and thoughts wreaked havoc upon White Christian solidarity. It F-CKED our nation and our people!
So when I go about advocating what I did above, make not the mistake of putting me in the camp of the “Jews” or “Zionists”. To do so is being completely ignorant of the defintion of both terms. True Christianity- true Judah/Israel “European”/white peoples have been fighting the so called “Jews” for 2000 straight years. Once evolutionary beliefs-secular beliefs-atheistic beliefs came about did the white man see his decline.
Darwin has nothing to do with it. The peeling of quotas to elite universities was a mega error.
Doc McDonald and others might find this interesting.
Israel’s external security service Mossad are also thought to have sent a team of agents to Europe to hunt for a group of WHITE Europeans who have converted to Islam and are working with the Iranian Quds force and Hezbollah – the terrorist group backed by Tehran.
Any reactions Dr. McDonald’s?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177160/Bulgarian-bus-bomb-attack-Terrorist-target-security-officials-Olympics-fear-strike-again.html#ixzz21Mite8TW
From the Department of Selective Indignation:
Western leaders met in Paris last week to discuss possible intervention in Syria where almost 10,000 people have died over the last year of internal conflict. The West has never even considered holding such a meeting on Israel’s murderous behavior, however, despite a July 5 UN report that claimed that over the last five years Israeli forces have killed nearly 2,300 Palestinians and injured 7,700 in Gaza (statement from UNOCHA, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.)
The UN agency said that 27 percent of the fatalities in Gaza were women and children in a report highlighting the effects of Israel’s blockade.
– Saul Landow in Counterpunch (July 20, 2012)
The Alawites are a minority in Syria, but they still rule with iron hand.
Turkey have the donmeh, sabbateans crypto-jews that form the liberal elite of that country.
Powerful minorities are something common in the middle-east.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6nmeh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawite
@omop:
Israel to kill on U.S., allies’ soil
By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
From the Washington Politics & Policy Desk
Published 1/15/2003 4:17 PM
Judaic survival presumes there is no GOD.
That may be the biggest assumption of all.
Michael A. Hoffman II, Sorting through the Shuttle Debris, Feb. 2, 2003
@Snake: I think it’s something deeper than reason; it’s human nature. People by nature yearn for a struggle. The Crusades are a case in point, and modern Zionism might be seen as modern crusading. The movie Kingdom of Heaven deals with this theme, and has a lot of subtext about Zionism in it. People don’t like to “help Christians”, they like to go out there and whip some ass.
The Syrian government cut off thirteen year old Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb’s penis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Hamza_Ali_Al-Khateeb
@Alfred:
Excellent post!
@White Realist: “The Syrian government cut off thirteen year old Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb’s penis.”
Bullsh-t!
Reminds me of the story disseminated by the Washington Post during the firs Gulf War where it was claimed by a bad actresss daughter of a Kuwaiti official that Iraqi soldiers had thrown babies on the floor after removing them from incubators.
How drop dead stupid do you have to be to believe this crap?
FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH:
Had Syria paid attention to Gaddaffi, they would not be in this position they are in now!
WIth all the Zionist media going on about the Arab league said this and that, the Arab league being a bunch of controlled muppets in any case, it surprises me that only i went public and said that an African problem had nothing to do with what Arabs think!
Bearing that in mind, Gaddaffi was obviuosly envied and a threat to Jew controlled IMF and most probably would have been seen as the Arab King of Africa, which for those Arabs who care less about Jews murdering Africans, it comes to those who dither for what ever vain reason.
Syria stood by and now the war has come to them and there’s. I suspect if things get bad, the smart Russians and Chinese will know that the war will come to them, so they may well opt to jump in now and fight a war on other peoples streets.
Iran is a threat so long as a danerous and unpredictable Syria is not neutralised. The Jew care not if toppling Assad brings about some Muslim brotherhood, they would just mean false flag and nuke Syria end of!
The Olympic stadium is a huge white elephant and i’m sure i heard it was built on some nuke site, so i suspect if the hidden grubby hand does not get a war now, it will use the Olympics to carry out some attack.
Personally, i would be happy to be wrong on all issues i have openly considered.
NOT EVERYONE RECOGNISES AND APPRECIATES A GOOD DAY!
Scowcroft opposed the attack on iraq and he is opposing military intervention against the Assad regieme. As you point out neocons hate Scowcroft, that is the very best of recommendations. Sadly, Scowcroft does not have any influence, Stephen Walt mentions him in a piece called What if realists were in charge of U.S. foreign policy?
I think the neocons want Syria toppled because they know it will resut in what Walt describes in his latest blog:
@Fenria:
Change of regime in Syria will expel Russians from Tartus. It will also help bleed and bankrupt America.
Yes the Islamists will replace Baath party but that will be all the more reason to bomb them.
All these are gains for Israel and loss to Whites. I dont care much about Muslims.
Israel’s interest in Syria is much simpler than you think. Syria is part of Eretz Yisrael as seen by the Zionists.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Eretz_Yisrael_Hashleima.htm
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/map.htm
Lenin: The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.
@Someday: STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI hit the nail in the head, is quite obvious for anyone who wants to see.
@Curmudgeon:
FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH:
Your post was an apt reminder of this “Greater Israel” ambition and Someday’s posting of a commentary by Steven J Sniegoski gives me the impression, the ambition will resemble an scenario similar to that T E Lawrence would have encounrtered.
However, outside of that Greater Israel, it would surprise me that any attempt to unite will be met with the nuke proposition and that would be their buffer zone of safety.
These intrigues and plans have been fashioned decades prior to our outrage and concern, thus we can only speculate and observe.
@White Realist
“The Syrian government cut off thirteen year old Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb’s penis.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Hamza_Ali_Al-Khateeb
Sounds like the Free-masonic fairytale involving Osiris and the whole bit..
It’s pretty obvious to any thinking person that the Freemason/Jew Hidden Hand power is fomenting death and destruction in the middle east.. Syria in particular. From a WN perspective this is nothing to celebrate.
@Rolf Kraki. Unfortunately, “Kingdom of Heaven” was a perfect example of the anti-white, anti-European multicultural hooey that is force-fed to our young people to the point where they have no pride in their EUROPEAN and Nordic heritage. The film depicted Europeans as ignorant slobs with no nobility whatsoever and Semites as a noble and enlightened people. “Kingdom of Heaven” is just another anti-Europeans anti-Nordic psyop!
Europeans are a non-Semitic indigenous people with a great heritage.
Even if Jews are promoting and creating anti-white psyops and also wars against certain of the Muslim countries, they also promote Muslim invasion of Europe, North America, New Zealand, Australia and everwhere else in which Nordic Europeans used to live happily.
Do the opposite of what they want. Oppose foreign wars against the Muslims but also oppose Muslim invasion of our lands. Recognize the freedom crushing nature of Islam. Reject Near Eastern spiritual imperialism in the form of Semitic religions, totalitarian religions. Stand-down orders!
P.S. European indigenous people are just that, indigenous. They are not the real Hebrews. Why would any European want to be a Hebrew? It’s like that woman who wants to claim that she is American Indian.
By the way, Anglo-Saxons are an indigenouse European people and they are of Nordic and Cro-Magnon descent primarily. Anglo Saxons are not Hebrews.
The last two addendums are for those pathetic fellows who have so little understanding or pride in real European heritage that they have to claim to be the real Hebrews.
That probably comes for too much respect for the Old Testament which was written by humans! Some of them were mentally ill, apparently. It apparently triggers illness in its advocates!
I think the Jewish directed nature of the the United States may become salient to a far wider audience through Middle East policy.
Iran now has no real allies and knows it is the next in line. If Iran wants to survive it has no choice but to try for a nuclear weapon capability, but that’s the one thing that will make a US attack on Iran inevitable. So the US is going to attack Iran after the election. Hopefully Obama will be the one to order Iran crushed as Romney’s motivation would be thought similar to Bush’s supposed influences (big oil, military-industrial complex, and Apocalyptic Christianity) . The Palestinians will then face Israel alone and have no chance of getting a state, they’ll be penned up in the west bank’ Bantustan’. These events will give everybody a chance to see who pulls the strings of US policy, irrespective of the administration. Obama is going to be shown for what he is, a glove puppet.
@Connor McNessa:
You are right about one thing. There has been a massive psy-op, so effective that they have convinced the actual Israelites that they are not the actual Israelites while simultaneously convincing the entire world that a bunch of Turkish-mongrels mixed with Esau are.
To say that the Europeans came from Europe is like saying the American Indians came from America. ALL peoples originated in the ME area. As peoples spread out they occupied different lands, many, the real Israelites trekking from what Saudi to Egypt to the land of Israel- then to Iran and as far east as India through the Caucasian mountains to the 4 corners of the earth today. I suggest you watch this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi21Yi7dhKg
Any country which does not support the globalist agenda is a candidate for regime change. There really aren’t that many holdouts. Once a country is “plugged-in” (as Thomas Friedman put it) to the globalist economy, the global village power lords basically run the show. A perfect example is what happened to Austria around 2000.
@Someday:
I had exposed you as the Zionist Jew that you are already long ago with your endless denials of Jewish misbehaviour during WWI and WWII and your endless incitements to us WNs to support Israel, but you begun to be more critical of Jews and I wondered what you were up to. But now I understand : you try to appear to be anti-Jewish and under that guise to promote Jewish interests, in this case a war with Iran, an innocent country that with typical Old Testamental cruelty you want to be “crushed”. We all should be for a war with Iran because that would “expose” the power of the Jewish lobby! This idea is as insincere as it is ridiculous and it shows the typical Jewish arrogance that takes the stupidity of Goyim for granted. Nice try Jew boy, but we don’t fall for it. Report that to your paymasters at the ADL and the IDF!
@Franklin Ryckaert:
I agree with you on your statements concerning Someday!!
@TyronRobertParsons:
Yes, according to the infantile fairy tale book you still believe in, with its silly stories about Noah and the ark an his sons Sem, Ham and Japheth from whom all human races would have been descended ( and that a mere 4382 years ago!). When at last will you grow up? Do you still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?
Besides, the correct term is Caucasus Mountains and the earth being a globe has no “four corners”.
Nothing we can say here will alter what happens. I do think it will be good if it happens the way I’ve said as it might make a few people think White nationalists are on to something. Predicting it will add credibility to TOO.
@Someday:
Yeah, we will “fight the Jews” if we destroy Iran for them because that will show the world that we are their puppets!
Your chutzpah incorrigible, Jew boy!
@Venona: No, the WASPs such as Bush the elder and his adviser Scowcroft are globalists, along with their European allies such as Sutherland they want to weaken European and other national identity, but they don’t want to go to war with any more countries in the Middle East unless it’s necessary.
It is only the Jews and their glove puppets like Bolton who have been advocating attacks on Syria and Iran. Several years ago the military objected to a proposed statement of Bolton which would have branded Syria as a danger to the US.
Only the Israel lobby want war with Syria and Iran.
@Someday:
Only the Israel lobby? What about Someday?
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Wasn’t he advocating Obama be the one to bomb iran, only on the premise the lobby was going to get its way one way or the other?
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Tell us oh “omniscient one”— tell us- since genetic studies show everyone on earth came from ONE FAMILY- where did that family originate from?
@TyronRobertParsons:
Omniscient one answers ignorant one : Mitochondrial Eve – East Africa – 200,000 years ago. So NOT the Middle East, NOT 4382 years ago – NOT the wife of mythical Noah, bungler “Jahweh” and his “revealed scripture” be damned. Sorry.
@Mickey Meadows:
Yep, to say that is his present assignment by the ADL / IDF.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Addendum : we are talking about Neanderthalers here, the later human races of Negroides, Australoids, Mongoloids and Caucasoids did not yet exist.
@Someday: Iran now has no real allies and knows it is the next in line. If Iran wants to survive it has no choice but to try for a nuclear weapon capability…
So Russia and China, who have unequivocally stated that to mess with Iran will mean WAR, are not Iran’s allies?!?
What scary, messing-up-your-brain drug are you self-administering?
We are staring down the barrel of WW3 because of the sociopathic acts of our bought and paid for western politicians and you continue to discombobulate? What kind of a person disseminates ridiculous nonsense like that?!? And for what reason?
…And as far as your opinion that Iran has to develop nuclear arms to prevent their destruction at the hands of the psychopaths presently in control of things here in the west goes:
PHFTTTTTTT!!!!!
There are better words or phrases I could have used to respond to that utter nonsense but they aren’t allowed on this site.
@arthurdecco:
I don’t know about China, but don’t expect Russia to do a damn thing if Iran is attacked. Russians are all talk; they’ve been a paper tiger all throughout their history.
@fender: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)
@Franklin Ryckaert:
You said:
Omniscient one answers ignorant one
Answer:
If there is anyone who listens to this bonehead anymore here after calling himself omniscient one, you deserve the fate you get.
You said
Mitochondrial Eve – East Africa – 200,000 years ago. So NOT the Middle East
Answer:
Even if you believe that nonsense, east Africa is the ME AREA, which is what I said. And still, even if you buy this out of Africa drivel, which more and more do not today- this STILL does not discount the fact that we ALL came from one originating family-dingbat.
You said:
NOT 4382 years ago
Answer:
Who said 4382 years ago? Do you get a hard-on by making up crap about what others say in order to shoot down your own claims and this because in truth you cannot your opposition’s actual claims? Seems so. Why don’t you – “omniscient” one, POST MY WORDS THAT CLAMED 4282 YEARS AGO. Oh, that’s right- YOU CAN’T, you pathological liar. If anyone here believe that this guy is “good for the movement” you’re as delusional as he is.
You said:
NOT the wife of mythical Noah, bungler “Jahweh” and his “revealed scripture” be damned. Sorry.
Answer:
You’re not sorry liar. Stop your nonsense. We all know that EVERY ancient religion and people claimed there was a flood from every sector of the planet (something impossible if anyone believes your side of the fences ever changing claims of “truth”) so stop trying to demonize my position which is backed up by plenty scientific evidence such as clam shells the size of small cars on Mount Everest. Not to mention, your methods of dating are so screwed anyone can disprove your claptrap by simply filling a glass of water with some dirt from their back yard. Shake it up a little and guess what? It settles on the bottom of the glass in LAYERS- thus proving the flood YET AGAIN.
Why can’t you simply discuss, refute or debate like practically everyone else on this board? Why must you CONSTANTLY slander me with your doltish claims? Could it be that you are full of hate and lies? Could it be that you know inside you’re a Jew tool but your false ego is so monumental that you cannot confront the truth about yourself? Me thinks
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Addendum : EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE HERE WHY Neanderthalers teeth rings show he hit puberty at 40 and lived to be 300 years old. Oh, thats right, YOU CAN’T oh “omniscient one”….
I recommend this article by Engdahl.
“Putin’s Geopolitical Chess Game with Washington in Syria and Eurasia” (FW Engdahl)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32019
Dr. McDonald makes many convincing arguments in his books and articles. There is reason to defend ourselves.
However, indigenous Europeans are not Jews or Hebrews. Pike makes a good argument against the Hebrew hypothesis: http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/IsChristianIdentityTrue.html
P.S. Who cares who is a Turkic person (not Turkish which refers to the people of the nation of Turkey). No outsiders welcome to lord it over us no matter what their ancestry.
I do not agree with Pike on everything but he is spot-on about the rationality of Christian identity. He is also correct in his opposition to the unconstitutional communist ADL sponsored hate crime atrocity and attack on Americans.
The old testament is a psyop. It is so successful that foolish Europeans feel inferior to Hebrews and had to make up a bunch of malarky to pretend to be Hebrews. How pathetic!
@Shiva:
Are they the subject of this article?
Which is one I consider ‘Great’!
STEVE JOBS’S GENES
http://WWW.ALTERNATIVERIGHT.COM
THE ‘NEW AMERICAN’ FORTUNE 500
EL PASO – THE ONGOING IMMIGRATION REFORM DEBATE – EITHER IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST ANY DRASTIC LEGISLATIVE CHANGE, – USUALLY FOCUSES ON THE INFLUX OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, WHILE IGNORING ITS EFFECT ON THE U.S. ECONOMY.
THE WAY CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE WRITTEN AND EXECUTED IS MAKING IT HARDER FOR COMPANIES TO COMPETE, ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT PUBLISHED BY THE PARTNERSHIP FOR A NEW AMERICAN ECONOMY (PNAE), AN ORGANIZATION CREATED TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY FOREIGN ENTREPRENEURSHIP IN FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, 40 PERCENT OF WHICH WERE FOUNDED BY IMMIGRANTS OR CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS.
“WE ARE HAVING THE WRONG IMMIGRATION DEBATE,” SAID JEREMY ROBBINS, OF THE PNAE AND SPECIAL COUNSEL TO NEW YORK MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
@Connor McNessa:
Could you explain to me why the old Welsh and old Saxon languages are 80 and 50% hebrew? Can you explain to me why genetic studies have confirmed that white folks in England have a 80% genetic match with the Egyptians and those from Germany 50%? The further one moves east the less Egyptian genetic matches. (The Israelites came out with the mixed multitude of Egyptians to form the 12 tribes of United Israel. Ephriam and Manassah’s mother was Egyptian- their father Joseph. NO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THESE GENETIC LINKS TO EGYPT.
While I agree with Pike on a number of things how in the hell can he claim that Europeans are from Japeth with NO Japeth genetic control sample. If one wants to find a control sample of Japeth all they need do is take a genetic sample from the Ashkenaz whose own King (Khazar Empire) admitted outright that they were from Japeth?
I get really sick of these Christians stupid arguments against their true Israelite/Judaite lineage. Sometime I wonder if they even read the scriptures let alone studied these issues in depth from a scientific angle. Makes me wonder if some of them (like Pike) are not a controlled opposition (jew tool) agent.
Scriptures are CLEAR!
1) Have the Jews blessed all the nations of the earth? Gen. 12:3; 22: 18.
2) Are the Jews circumcised in heart? Deut. 10:16; 30:6; Romans 2:28 and 29; Phil. 3:3; Col. 2:9-11.
3) Have the Jews ever glorified Christ and has He been recognized by the Jewish nation? Isa. 41:16; Luke 1:32 and 7:16.
4) Do the Jews declare that Christ is the Lord God of Israel of the old Testament? Isa. 43: 10 & 12; 44:8; 49:3-6; 52:6; and Acts 1:8.
5) Do the Jews show forth the praise of Jesus? Isa. 43:21
6) Have the Jews carried the gospel to all the world and witnessed for Jesus Christ and held the Bible open? Gen. 28: 14; Isa 43: 10; 44:21; and look at Isa.49:3,6 and Acts 1:8 again
7) Do the Jews have God’s Spirit and the Word of God in their mouth and their uttermost being? Isa.59:21.
8) Was the New Covenant written only to true Judah? The Bible states that it was made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. Jer. 31: 31-33; Heb. 8:8-10; Matt. 26:28. Dd not Christ also confirm they were from Esau and Satan was their father when he acknowledged they were from Abraham as they admitted they have NEVER been slaves of anyone (Israelites-Judaites were slaves in Egypt).
9) Are the Jews the sheep of Israel? Ezek. 34:11,12; Psalm 78:52; 95:1,6,7; Isa. 53:6; John 10:22-27; Matt. 15:24.
10) Are the Jews the Children of God scattered abroad? St. John 7:35; 10:16 and 11:52.
11) Is Jesus Christ glorified in the Jews? Isa. 49:3; Romans 8:29,30; 11:1,2 and 9:4.
12) Are the Jews the servants of God? Isa. 41:8; 43:8 and 49:3.
13) Are the Jews a holy nation, a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a peculiar people? Ex. 19:5,6; Deut. 14:2 and 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9,10; and 1:1,2.
14) Are the Jews the great characters mentioned in the great faith chapter of Hebrews 11? (Not one was a Jew.)
15) Are the Jews a “righteous nation?” Isaiah 26:2.
16) Are the Jews bringing forth the fruits of the kingdom? Hosea 14:8; Matt. 21:43.
17) Are the Jews kind to strangers? Lev. 19:33,34; Matt. 25:31-46.
18) Are the Jews called the “sons of the living God?” Hosea 1:10.
19) Have the Jews EVER claimed to be “not God’s people” and then again God’s people by way of remarriage at any point in their history? Hosea 1:10.
20) Do the Jews have all of God’s Word? Deut. 33:4; Psalm 147:19&20; Romans 9:3-5.
21) Are the Jews a great and mighty nation? Genesis 18:18.
22) Are the Jews today innumerable as the stars of heaven and as the sand of the seashore? Gen. 22: 17; Hosea 1:10.
23) Do the Jews possess the gate of their enemies? Gen. 22:17; 24:60.
24) Are the Jews a nation and a company of Genesis 48 and 49,
25) Will the Jews push all the people together to the ends of the earth? Deut. 33:17.
26) Are the Jews above all the people on the face of the earth? Deut. 7:6; & 12:2; Psalm 135:4; Amos 3:2.
27) Have the Jews ever dwelt alone in a home appointed by God? Num. 23:9; 2 Sam. 7 :10; 1Chron. 17:9; Deut. 29:28; Jer: 16:13 & 3:18; Ezek. 36:24 and Acts 17:26.
28) Have the Jews a navy or naval power? Num. 24:7; Isa. 60:5,9,
29) Did or will the Jews eat up the nations, their enemies? Num. 24:8.
30) Are Jews God’s battle axe? Num. 24:8,9; Isa. 41: 15,16; Jer. 51:20-23.
31) Are the Jews feared by all nations? Deut. 2:25; 28: 10.
32) Are the Jews a mighty nation, crushing and grinding to powder all who oppose them? Matt. 21:44 and Daniel 2:44.
33) Have the Jews inherited the gentiles? Isa. 54:3.
34) Is it possible to count 1/4 of the Jews, or all of them? Num. 23: 10.
35) Are the Jews the rod of God’s inheritance? Ps. 135:4; Isa. 19:25.
36) Do the Jews today have an earthly king of the lineage of David ruling over them? If they are Israel then a Davidic king must be among them somewhere. Ps.89:27-29 & 35 to 37; Jer. 33: 17.
37) Are the Jews called today through Isaac? (Isaac’s sons, or Saxons) Gen. 35:11; Amos 7:16; Romans 9:7 and Heb. 11:18.
38) Will the Jews say they have lost their lineage or identity? Hos. 1:9 & 10; 2:6; Isa. 1:3; 42:19; Deut. 32:26; Jer. 50:6,7; Hosea 8:8 and 9:17.
39) Do the Jews have a new name today? Isa. 62:2; 65:15; Hosea 1:10; Romans 9:25,26; 1 Pet.2:10; Acts 11:26.(New Language too -Isa. 28:11).
40) If the Jews are Israel how can the blessings promised to specific, and separate tribes in Genesis 48 and 49, and in Deut. 33 come about? Wouldn’t they have to be separate nations? Note the time of fulfilment: Gen. 49:1. (Also 1 John 2:18; Acts 2:16,17; 1Peter 1:3, 5, 18 & 20; Jude 17-.19 and Hebrews 11:1 and 2)
41) Are the heathen nations aligned against the Jews only? Joel 3:9; and Psalms 83.
42) Are the Jews a hidden people? Psalm 83:4 and Isaiah 3:9
43) Are the Jews described nationally as a great lion? Gen. 49:9 and Numbers 23:24; 24:9.
44) Did the Jews deliver Jerusalem in 1917? See Luke 21:24; Hag. 2:18, 19 and 22; Lev. 26:18 to 28; Ezek 4:6; Rev.2:3 & 12:10-14.These refer to”times” predicted, and along with many more that are too long to be discussed in this addendum. However Daniel 12:11 & 12; Psalm 95:10; Heb. 3:9 & 10 and Matt. 24:34, are of interest of time element.
45) Are the Jews the house of Israel and the house of Judah-two nations and families? Ezek. & Jer. 3: 18; 31:31; 33:24.
46) Are the Jews called “Great?” Gen. 12:2.
47) Have the Jews released those in slavery? Isa. 42:7 & 58:6.
48) Have the Jews colonized any people? Isa. 35:1; 49:8; Gen. 28:14.
49) Are the Jews an Island people? Isa,. 24:14; 41:1; 43:4-10; 49:1,19; and Jer. 23:8; 31:10.
50) Do the Jews recognize Jesus as God? (God said Israel would: Isaiah 43:10,12; 52:6; Matthew 1:23; Luke1:68; 1 Timothy 3:16; Acts 3:14 and John 9:28
Of the fifty questions concerning the Jews – a people regarded by so many as “God’s Chosen People.” And with more than three times this many Bible references
to these questions I cannot find even one Scripture to substantiate the people’s claim that: “the Jews are God’s chosen people.” Friend, can you???
Taken from http://www.ensignmessage.com/50reasons.html
The “jews” outright admit they are from Ashkenaz (Genesis 10:3 shows they are from Japeth) and from Esau (which was prophesied to rule at the end of the ages just before the coming(s) of Messiah and their destuction).
@TyronRobertParsons:
My reactions to Mr. True Believer in Nonsense :
1) You yourself called me “omniscient” mockingly, and I repeated it , also mockingly, and now you take umbrage at that! People with minimum intelligence understand humour.
2) “East Africa is the ME “. Have you ever seen an atlas?
That one family from whom all humanity descends were East African Neanderthals, not the family of the mythical Noah.
3) The deluge according to Biblical reckoning itself happened 2370 BC. Add to that our present year of 2012 and you get 4382 years ago. Though you yourself did not mention it, that must be the time frame you think in, and not the 200,000 years science attributes to Mitochondrial Eve.
4) I have already mentioned before the existence of “Flood” stories all over the world. These can be ascribed to a worldwide flood that actually took place at the end of the last Ice Age 8000 BC, when a huge lake in the ice cap of the Wisconsin Glaciation in North America suddenly found an outlet into the ocean. The Biblical Flood story was adopted by the Jews during their Babylonian captivity.
5) “Clam shells on the Everest”. You should do some elementary study of geology. Such things are fairly common. Earthlayers can be displaced due to pressure of the continental drift. Thus layers with fossils from the ocean are found on mountain tops. But you are talking here about processes that take many millions of years, not the few thousands of years of the Noah story.
6) “Neanderthal teeth show that they hit puberty at 40 and became as old as 300 years”. Is the source of this information a scientific periodical or some crazy preacher from a CI church?
7) As for “Hebrew elements in Welsh and Anglo-Saxon”, Anglo-Saxon is a Germanic language, closely akin to Frisian but it may have absorbed some Welsh elements. Welsh is a Celtic language but it may have absorbed some elements from the language of the pre-Celtic population. If those elements show semitic characteristics, then that might throw some light on prehistoric migrations. There is a racial element in the Mediterranean and in Western Europe called “Atlanto-Mediterranean”, a more sturdy type of Mediterraneans who are probably associated with the spread of megalithic culture as found on Malta, the coasts of Spain, France and the British isles ( good example : Stone Henge ). These people could have spread a semitic language, but then you are talking about a time long before the formation of the Israelites. Radiocarbon dating of Stone Henge estimates a date between 2400-2200 BC. Compare that with the estimated date of Abraham ( if he was no myth ) of 1750 BC and you see that the pre-Celtic Atlanto-Mediterraneans of Britain could never have been the descendants of the Israelites. But you don’t understand simple chronological reasoning since you still believe that the 35,000 years old Europeans are descendants of a group of Israelites who left Palestine 722 BC.
You show yourself imprevious to logic and rationality. Is there a cure for religious mania? I sincerely hope so!
@Franklin Ryckaert:
I’m not seeing it Franklin. If all he is saying is that if it is going to happen anyway he can see some advantage to us in it being Obama to give the order, then he’s still thinking of what is best for us.
@Shiva: Yes Shiva is absolutley right about this. This follows the plan laid out long ago but jewish/zionist thinktanks wanting to destabilise countries around Israel to make the area safe for Israel. Its been written about in 2 different reports that say that the goal is to take out or change gouvernments in several arab countries, among them are: Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran.
The first report was created in the early 90′s by an organisation in Israel called IASPS.org.
The report was called “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for securing the realm” short for the ACB doc.
It was essentially duplicated and written by many of the same authors in the form of the report: “Rebuilding Americas Defenses” published by the neocon think tank, “Project for the new American Century” or PNAC. It was published in the late 90′s or in 2000.
@ Mickey Meadows, July 25, 9:17 am.
“…then he’s still thinking of what is best for us.”
My idea is exactly that he’s only pretending.
@ the Swede, July 25, 9:27 am.
There was an article published before the Clean Break paper which describes a detailed plan for the break up of all of Israel’s neighbours along ethnic and religious lines, from Morocco to Pakistan, including of course Syria. That article appeared in the Hebrew magazine Kivunim (“Directions”) in 1982. It can be read on http://www.freearabvoice.org/zionist conspiracy.
Being the destructive people that they are, Jews cannot imagine coexistence with others without destroying them. That is in fact also the meaning of their “Culture of Critique” ( here the destruction is cultural).
A definitely “white” American woman foresees the destruction of America.
Some months back and while running for the Presidency of the USA. Rep. Michele Bachmann offered a candid view of her positions on Israel:
” Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist.”
@Franklin Ryckaert:
You said
1)You yourself called me “omniscient” mockingly, and I repeated it , also mockingly, and now you take umbrage at that! People with minimum intelligence understand humour.
Answer
I would normally believed just that but since you DEMAND to scientifically know exactly how and when the world and mankind was created- you must have been there yourself to see it per scientific rules and this falls in line with your omniscience complex. Besides that- everyone knows radiocarbon dating has been proven to NOT be accurate- as well as when you try to date bones in the layers of earth made by the flood or when that doesn’t fit your ever changing story, you date the layers of earth created by the flood by the bones as they appear in them (circular reasoning is NOT scientific)
You said
2)“East Africa is the ME “. Have you ever seen an atlas?
That one family from whom all humanity descends were East African Neanderthals, not the family of the mythical Noah.
Answer
Yes, have you? Is it not true that Egypt is also technically east Africa yet it would be considered the ME area? I was being liberal with the term to include east Africa hence the word “AREA”. Why do you dispute this stuff?
You said
3)The deluge according to Biblical reckoning itself happened 2370 BC.
Answer
I did not say this but now Mr. bible interpreter, please present the biblical evidence to back this claim up. Or are you just taking what someone else proclaimed and then trying to pin me with their conclusions?
You said
4 )I have already mentioned before the existence of “Flood” stories all over the world.
Answer
Oh I see omniscient one. So you admit that there was a worldwide flood now.
You said
These can be ascribed to a worldwide flood that actually took place at the end of the last Ice Age 8000 BC, when a huge lake in the ice cap of the Wisconsin Glaciation in North America suddenly found an outlet into the ocean.
Answer
According to you, a LAKE around Wisconsin suddenly found an outlet to the ocean. It must have been one huge lake to flood the ENTIRE world and so much so that Mount Everest on the other side of the globe was covered in water. LOL
You said
The Biblical Flood story was adopted by the Jews during their Babylonian captivity.
Answer
Gee, I wonder how human kind survived this flood since the PLANET WAS UNDER A MILE OF WATER. Noah possibly? According to you- all the other peoples of the earth who tell the same story as the bible are recalling past event but when the bible explains it, that was just a “Jew” story out of Babylon even though the bible was translated into Greek during this period (Septuagint) and the only thing taken out of Babylon was the evil Talmud. In otherwords, the bible predates Talmud.
You said
“Clam shells on the Everest”. You should do some elementary study of geology. Such things are fairly common. Earthlayers can be displaced due to pressure of the continental drift. Thus layers with fossils from the ocean are found on mountain tops. But you are talking here about processes that take many millions of years, not the few thousands of years of the Noah story
Answer
If it would take millions of years for this to happen- why couldn’t it have happened 8000 years ago when you claim the worldwide flood took place? Oh, that wouldn’t fit your hate the bible narrative now would it.
You said
(Neanderthal teeth) “Is the source of this information a scientific periodical or some crazy preacher from a CI church?”
Answer
It is taken from X RAY evidence presented by Dr. Jack Cuozzo in his book BURIED ALIVE. Maybe this time you will actually examine the evidence instead of mocking what you have not even considered. http://www.jackcuozzo.com/
You said
As for “Hebrew elements in Welsh and Anglo-Saxon”, Anglo-Saxon is a Germanic language, closely akin to Frisian but it may have absorbed some Welsh elements.
Answer
http://www.british-israel.us/19.html
Besides all of this I am still waiting to learn from you WHY and HOW is it that the Western European peoples (the only peoples on the globe) have a GENETIC MATCH to the ancient Egyptians if they are not of Israelite origin? England has an 80% and Germanics 50% match. (The Egyptians came out of Egypt as the mixed multitude with the Israelites. Both Ephraim and Manasseh’s mother was Egyptian-father being Joseph.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Part 1
You said
1)You yourself called me “omniscient” mockingly, and I repeated it , also mockingly, and now you take umbrage at that! People with minimum intelligence understand humour.
Answer
I would normally believed just that but since you DEMAND to scientifically know exactly how and when the world and mankind was created- you must have been there yourself to see it per scientific rules and this falls in line with your omniscience complex. Besides that- everyone knows radiocarbon dating has been proven to NOT be accurate- as well as when you try to date bones in the layers of earth made by the flood or when that doesn’t fit your ever changing story, you date the layers of earth created by the flood by the bones as they appear in them (circular reasoning is NOT scientific)
You said
2)“East Africa is the ME “. Have you ever seen an atlas?
That one family from whom all humanity descends were East African Neanderthals, not the family of the mythical Noah.
Answer
Yes, have you? Is it not true that Egypt is also technically east Africa yet it would be considered the ME area? I was being liberal with the term to include east Africa hence the word “AREA”. Why do you dispute this stuff?
You said
3)The deluge according to Biblical reckoning itself happened 2370 BC.
Answer
I did not say this but now Mr. bible interpreter, please present the biblical evidence to back this claim up. Or are you just taking what someone else proclaimed and then trying to pin me with their conclusions?
You said
4 )I have already mentioned before the existence of “Flood” stories all over the world.
Answer
Oh I see omniscient one. So you admit that there was a worldwide flood now.
You said
These can be ascribed to a worldwide flood that actually took place at the end of the last Ice Age 8000 BC, when a huge lake in the ice cap of the Wisconsin Glaciation in North America suddenly found an outlet into the ocean.
Answer
According to you, a LAKE around Wisconsin suddenly found an outlet to the ocean. It must have been one huge lake to flood the ENTIRE world and so much so that Mount Everest on the other side of the globe was covered in water. LOL
You said
The Biblical Flood story was adopted by the Jews during their Babylonian captivity.
Answer
Gee, I wonder how human kind survived this flood since the PLANET WAS UNDER A MILE OF WATER. Noah possibly? According to you- all the other peoples of the earth who tell the same story as the bible are recalling past event but when the bible explains it, that was just a “Jew” story out of Babylon even though the bible was translated into Greek during this period (Septuagint) and the only thing taken out of Babylon was the evil Talmud. In otherwords, the bible predates Talmud.
You said
“Clam shells on the Everest”. You should do some elementary study of geology. Such things are fairly common. Earthlayers can be displaced due to pressure of the continental drift. Thus layers with fossils from the ocean are found on mountain tops. But you are talking here about processes that take many millions of years, not the few thousands of years of the Noah story
Answer
If it would take millions of years for this to happen- why couldn’t it have happened 8000 years ago when you claim the worldwide flood took place? Oh, that wouldn’t fit your hate the bible narrative now would it.
You said
(Neanderthal teeth) “Is the source of this information a scientific periodical or some crazy preacher from a CI church?”
Answer
It is taken from X RAY evidence presented by Dr. Jack Cuozzo in his book BURIED ALIVE. Maybe this time you will actually examine the evidence instead of mocking what you have not even considered. http://www.jackcuozzo.com/
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Part 2
You said
As for “Hebrew elements in Welsh and Anglo-Saxon”, Anglo-Saxon is a Germanic language, closely akin to Frisian but it may have absorbed some Welsh elements.
Answer
http://www.british-israel.us/19.html
Besides all of this I am still waiting to learn from you WHY and HOW is it that the Western European peoples (the only peoples on the globe) have a GENETIC MATCH to the ancient Egyptians if they are not of Israelite origin? England has an 80% and Germanics 50% match. (The Egyptians came out of Egypt as the mixed multitude with the Israelites. Both Ephraim and Manasseh’s mother was Egyptian-father being Joseph.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Correction
Answer
I would normally believed just that but since you DEMAND to scientifically know exactly how and when the world and mankind was created- you must have been there yourself to see it per scientific rules and this falls in line with your omniscience complex. Besides that- everyone knows radiocarbon dating has been proven to NOT be accurate- as well as when you try to date bones in the layers of earth made by the flood by those layers, and when that doesn’t fit your ever changing story, you date the layers of earth created by the flood by the bones as they appear in them (circular reasoning is NOT scientific)
Wes Clark – America’s Foreign Policy “Coup”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8
@TyronRobertParsons:
Franklin – isn’t it time for a review of whether it is worth interacting with Tyron?
@Mickey Meadows:
Yes, right you are, I’m wasting my time with this idiot.
@Mickey Meadows: and Franklin
to quote Bernstien concerning your present tactics/ MO which fit PERFECTLY:
First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution.
If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the persons giving the information.
If that doesn’t work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn’t been involved in sufficient scandal you are adept at fabricating scandal against the person or persons….
But, NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Your quack theories which are NOT scientific but are RELIGIOUS are so full of holes, even your own theories (as they change) blow holes in them. Talk about shooting one’s self in the foot. LOL
@Mickey Meadows:
You better try to come in and save him Mickey- God knows he is getting the snot beat out of him… ;) LOL
@TyronRobertParsons:
Bernstien > Bernstein.
Hail Esau!
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Franklin corrects a typo of mine and thinks that this somehow means that he can refuse to prove the information I have given and he requested, wrong, and that somehow this typo correction equals to meshing these contradictory statements of his theory to mean anything other than a doltish- self delusional religious belief.
“Omniscient” Franklin proclaims in his fairyland world where monkeys ride pigs- that…
1. I have already mentioned before the existence of “Flood” stories all over the world.
2. These can be ascribed to a worldwide flood that actually took place at the end of the last Ice Age 8000 BC,
3. The Biblical Flood story was adopted by the Jews during their Babylonian captivity.
*And then this gem of gems….
4. But you are talking here about processes that take many millions of years, not the few thousands of years of the Noah story
And you folks ignore me while taking this bozo’s word on the “Jews”?
I keep telling you Franklin is a JEW TOOL and here is PROOF out of his own mouth.
The omnipotent one says “Hail Esau!” when the “Jews” say “Edom (Esau) is modern Jewry.” – “Encyclopaedica Judaica”, 1925
Bip-Bing-Boom-Bang-Pow!!
And he is OUT FOR THE COUNT! Bwhahaha
@TyronRobertParsons:
Yes, you busted me! I’m indeed a member of the International Sinister Esau Society, which has as its aim to hide the SECRET of the true Israelite identity of Christian Europeans.
Nevertheless I say : Hail Esau-Edom-Khazar, down with the sons of Jacob, the Isaacsons (Saxons ) and the Berith-ish ( British ). The Baals will win, Jahweh will lose! And now stop it, I won’t talk with idiots anymore.
To Tyron Robert Parsons. I have clam shells in my refrigerator. I also have mitochondrial DNA. Does that mean I am CHOSEN???
@arthurdecco: Russia and China won’t be able to stop the US smashing Iran any more than they were able stop the US smashing Iraq. Assad ‘s regime is friendly to Iran, Assad is on the way out; Iran is going to be isolated. Iran is Persian and distrusted by Arabs. When it is isolated, Iran curries favor with Arab countries by backing the Palestinians in holding out for a substantial Palestinian state. The Israelis want Iran and the Arab states crushed mainly because they back the Palestinians in holding out for a substantial state, not because there is a military threat to Israel from these states. All Arab counties that Israel dislikes are going to be crushed, including Saudi Arabia eventually.
The globalist New Wold Order internationalists, and the realists like Walt and Mearsheimer are dead against military intervention unless it is the interests of the USA. Walt says
The foreign policy establishment are going to be ignored, and the US is going to attack Iran. The tiny minority who can think for themselves might start to see some merit in a White nationalist perspective through observing how the organised Jewish community is able to steer US foreign policy.
Someday? Have you heard of that eternal pair….Hubris and Nemesis? Lovely girl, Nemesis, with an unmatched sense of justice….
@Franklin Ryckaert:
No, you seem to be just a useful oblivious jew tool that you have proven yourself to be….keep tryin ;) BTW- I’m sure you talk with yourself. You’re still on the canvass pal- stop blubbering LOL
@Solly:
Chosen Solly, is a completely spiritual term. Scriptures says that Israel is chosen- but that is not either physically or spiritually the “Jews”. The so called Jews are from Esau and Ashkenaz physically and spiritually they are ANTI CHRIST. The Europeans are physically Israel/Judah but that physical denotation is not enough. They MUST believe, with faith in Jesus Christ- this makes them ELIGABLE for being considered “Chosen” and this population will be revealed when Christ comes back-again
@Someday: Thank you for your thoughtful and pragmatic response. I’m thinking now….
To Tyron Robert Parsons: You are sweet. I was making fun of you, and you answer me in such seriousness! There IS something sweet about ‘sancta simplicitas’. See, Tyron, for you the ‘scriptures’ are unquestionable, axiomatic truth. Every subsequent proposition is built upon these axioms. For you and those who think like you. But, as someone here pointed out earlier, maybe the ‘scriptures’ are a clever set of psyops, written some 3000 years ago and designed to subvert freedom and independence from the yoke of the psyops authors? Think about that. I doubt that you can wrap your mind around a concept so free and unfettered, though.
Very informative and useful. Commented and linked here:
http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/07/syria-our-next-quagmire.html
@Solly:
Yea, ok and that is why countless people (including 11 apostles) allowed themselves to be brutally murdered.Believe as you wish Solly. I will not argue such silliness as that. If you cannot see it, then that speaks directly to your fate.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking that the CFR is some kind of gentile-dominated anti-Zionist organization.
The CFR president is Jewish, the CFR board of directors is 60%+ Jewish, and the CFR think tank is 50%+ Jewish.
Revilo Oliver wrote a great essay debunking the insane Christian Identity religion.
The Lost Ten Tribes
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/Lost_Ten_Tribes.html
by Professor Revilo P. Oliver (private correspondence, December 1989)
@Z.O.G.:
THE BRITISH ISRAEL nonsense has its origins in the Jews’ myth about the “lost ten tribes,” who were the Sheenies who had scattered throughout the civilized world and set up their colonies wherever the natives were sufficiently industrious and prosperous to be fleeced. In the Middle Ages there were all sort of tales about where the ten tribes were living, and this drivel was given a great impetus in the time of Cromwell, when a Kike turned up with the story that he had found in Peru a tribe of Indians who understood and spoke Hebrew and so must be descendants of the “ten tribes.” This eventually produced Joseph Smith’s variety of Christianity, which I mentioned in the December 1989 issue of Liberty Bell.
The Puritans of the Commonwealth and perhaps Cromwell himself (unless he was cynically repaying the Yids who had financed his revolution) were suckers for propaganda to the effect that the kindred peoples, God’s Race and the English, if united, would rule the world, but so far as I know, the specific statement that the “ten tribes” had migrated to Britain was first made by a Huguenot refugee in England named Abbadie around 1688; the only edition of his book, Le triomphe de la providence et de la religion, known to me was published at Amsterdam in 1723, but may not be the first.
The “British Israel Movement” was begun by an English lunatic, Richard Brothers, who, in 1793, discovered that he was God’s Nephew, because God = Jesus, and he was the son of Jesus’s brother, Jakob (James); there were, of course, some chronological difficulties in fixing his birthday, but with God all things are possible. Brothers, therefore, was by his glorious heredity, the “Prince of the Jews” and the destined ruler of the world, and therefore the true King of Great Britain. George III did not agree, and Brothers accordingly was locked up for a while, but there were in England persons no more intelligent than he, including at least one an influential Whig in the Parliament; they procured his release and censored his ravings so that they could be published without exciting derision. The only one I have seen is entitled A Correct Account of the Invasion and Conquest of this Island by the Saxons,…the Descendants of the Greater Part of the Ten Tribes.
This kind of hogwash, doubtless financed by the Yids, was especially popular as justifying the admission of undisguised Kikes to full British citizenship, and as fostering the comforting dream of British-Jewish dominion over the world, as decreed by old Yahweh.
Thousands of English and Scots developed a thirst for this sweet swill, which seemed to provide an historical justification of Christianity apart from the more or less incredible tales in their holy book. No one, so far as I know, has ever tried to compile a complete bibliography of the hundreds of books and booklets published on this subject, which was officially known as “British-Israel Identity.” The first two words are commonly omitted by epopts of the cult in this country. (I remember having heard, years ago, the beginning of a quarrel between two female crackpots, who differed on the question of whether Americans were descended from the same Israelite tribe as the British or a different one. I left before the hair-pulling started.)
There are all sorts of amusing incidents in this carnival, e.g., one book was translated into Italian by an Englishman eager to tell the Italians who owned the world.
A. F. R. A. Glover (not, I devoutly hope, an ancestor of the well-known Classical scholar!), constructed an elaborate genealogy, showing, step by step, the descent of Queen Victoria from a bandit chief named David, who is conspicuously mentioned in the Jew-Book. No one seems to know whether the Queen was amused. One wonders also whether she knew whether or not her adored husband, Prince Albert, was half a Jew. (There was a rumor that his royal father’s Yiddish treasurer consoled the queen for her husband’s insuperable aversion from women. Frank Harris, somewhere in his voluminous memoirs, says that Victoria’s son, King Edward VII, spoke German with the accent of a Bavarian Jew, but refuses to discuss the scandal, well-known in his day.)
There was a certain amount of truth in the claims of the votaries of British-Israel Identity. Remember that even in the time of the great King Edward I, who tried to clean up England in 1290, any Sheeny who was not a notoriously criminal usurer could scurry around to the nearest church and persuade or pay a credulous or venal clergyman to sprinkle him with magic water, which instantly made him an Englishman and beyond the King’s power. A large number of Jews did precisely that, accumulated large fortunes, and married their lavishly dowered daughters to the sons of necessitous or greedy members of the landed gentry and not infrequently even to sons of peers. This calculated pollution of English blood had gone so far by the first decades of this century that Hilaire Belloc was sure that none of the great territorial families was without a Jewish admixture that was evident in the features of their young men.
The British-Israel poppycock greatly facilitated the rise of Jews to political power in the train of D’Israeli, whom Victoria made a British earl (!) and, for a time, her Prime Minister. The recent ascent of a rabbi to the House of Lords is only the natural result of the growing corruption of the preceding century.
The British-Israel agitation had a disastrous consequence. Men like Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner were too intelligent, of course, to take the genealogical drivel seriously, but they were so gullible that they did believe in a permanent alliance between Great Britain and Jewry. That sealed the doom of Britain, for the Jews, with their fixed and instinctive policy of “first defile, and then destroy,” naturally ruin first the nations, such as Germany and Britain, that were most hospitable to them.
To Tyron 12:37 No personal offense intended, Tyron. Sorry, if that is what happened. I just get irked when people of good intentions, such as yourself, are exploited by con men.
@Solly:
No offense taken. Both you and “ZOG” are blind so why should I be offended if you’re ignorant about biblical, archeological, linguistic history and the established fact of where the Modern European peoples came from?
For further study I suggest the following books, most of which can be found online.
The Declaration of Arbroath 1320
“…Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner. The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory enough from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles — by calling, though second or third in rank — the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter’s brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron forever….”
- Scottish Declaration of Independence, 1320 http://www.constitution.org/scot/arbroath.htm
The Story of Celto-Saxon Israel – W.H. Bennet
The Origins and Empire of Ancient Israel – Steven M. Collins
Israel’s Lost Empires – Steven M. Collins
Israel’s tribes Today – Steven M. Collins
Judah’s Scepter and Joseph’s Birthright – J.H. Allen
King Solomon’s Temple: A Study of its Symbolism – E. Raymond Capt
Jacobs Pillar a Biblical Historical Study – E. Raymond Capt
The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. . .Found! – Steven M. Collins
Lost Israelite Identity / Hebrew Ancestry of Celtic Races – Yair Davidy
Struggle for the Birthright – Dr Stephen Jones
@TyronRobertParsons:
Well Tyron ( tiresome ) seeing that long list of “intellectuals” who subscribe your idiot theory, we conclude that you’re not alone in your delusion. In fact we can fill an entrire ward of a Psychiatric Institution with you and your congenial spirits.
Perhaps the best solution for us all!
I remain, as always, – in Esau – yours un-faithfully,
Franklin Ryckaert
M.E.B*
C.E.J.**
*) Member of the Esau Brotherhood.
**) Chief Enemy of Jahweh.
@tyronparsaons
I told you that I do not agree with Pike about everything. One difference is that I recognize that scriptural genealogies are hogwash! There may be some kernel of truth in them, about as much as in the Hercules myths or the other Greek myths. The Greeks said that the Celts were descendants of Heracles (Hercules). Does that constitute proof? The Old Testament is no more credible than the Greek myths. The Old Testament myths are not even close to accurate portrayals of history and prehistory. THEY ARE THE RANTINGS OF CONMEN AND MADMEN!
Furthermore, if you really look at the Old Testament, it is plain to see that the supernatural beings described are mostly evil. They were not God nor were they His servants.
As for the DNA of the Egyptian mummies, they were Europeans, maybe of Indo-European origin. Their subjects were not primarily! If you go to Latin America you will learn that the upper classes are generally much “whiter” than the lower classes. Does that make them British or Hebrews? I do not think so. Who knows, maybe it had to do with the Hyksos invasions. The Hyksos are thought to have been a mixture of Indo-European (“Aryan”) people and some Semites. They had a military advantage at the time because they used composite sinew-backed reflex bows and chariots.
Another reason for the DNA similiarity of SOME OF THE PHARAOHS is the well established and long-known CRO-MAGNON racial element in the Berber peoples. It is a part of Berber ancestry. The ancient Egyptians were a Berber people. The people of the British Isles and other parts of Northern and Nortwestern Europe also have a large Cro-Magnon ancestry.
Any arguments that Pike makes against the Christian Identity hogwash Hebrew Wannabe nonsense that are based on scriptures are also hogwash. His arguments about no archaeological or historical evidence are good, though. That there were other mislead wannabe victims of psyops like you who were also Christian Identity dupes is merely evidence of how far back such nonsense goes, especially in Masonic circles! All people claiming to be descendants of Hebrews are charlatans!
I know that this is off topic (regarding the article) but your rantings are harmful to the cause.
@Connor McNessa:
You said
“I told you that I do not agree with Pike about everything. One difference is that I recognize that scriptural genealogies are hogwash! There may be some kernel of truth in them, about as much as in the Hercules myths or the other Greek myths. The Greeks said that the Celts were descendants of Heracles (Hercules). Does that constitute proof? The Old Testament is no more credible than the Greek myths. The Old Testament myths are not even close to accurate portrayals of history and prehistory. THEY ARE THE RANTINGS OF CONMEN AND MADMEN!”
Answer:
This is the position of people, most of whom are completely biblically illiterate. Why don’t you explain to me how it is that Neanderthal man hit puberty and 40 and lived to be 300 years old if the bible’s claims are myth?
You said:
“Furthermore, if you really look at the Old Testament, it is plain to see that the supernatural beings described are mostly evil. They were not God nor were they His servants.”
Answer:
Give me an example.
You said:
“As for the DNA of the Egyptian mummies, they were Europeans, maybe of Indo-European origin. Their subjects were not primarily! If you go to Latin America you will learn that the upper classes are generally much “whiter” than the lower classes. Does that make them British or Hebrews? I do not think so. Who knows, maybe it had to do with the Hyksos invasions. The Hyksos are thought to have been a mixture of Indo-European (“Aryan”) people and some Semites. They had a military advantage at the time because they used composite sinew-backed reflex bows and chariots.”
Answer:
You are ignorant of the bible so you discount this. You are completely ignoring the linquistic facts established concerning both the Welsh and Saxon languages and ancient Hebrew and then you make false assurtions that my statements concerning the ancient lineage of the European White peoples means that Latin American whites are English. After this you proclaim you own theory when contradicting yourself about the bible being a myth when you say some Indo Europeans mixed with the Semites-a biblical lable of a racial people. To top it off you are totally ignorant of that fact that the Aryans are really a branch of the northern Israelites pushed out of Ancient Israel by the Assyrians when they went as far east as India before they turned and crossed the Caucasian (named after them) mountains to flood into Europe.
You said
“I know that this is off topic (regarding the article) but your rantings are harmful to the cause.”
Answer:
I REFUSE your false judgement! Sun Tzu rightly said
” If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
Nuff said
@parsontyrannis
You are obviously a self-aggrandizing cult leader.
I am not ignorant of the Bible. It was written by humans, mostly cult leader con-men like you. Citing the Old Testament as proof of anything is ludicrous! It is one cult leader conman lunatic citing another!
The Welsh and Anglo-Saxon languages have nothing whatsoever to do with Hebrew. The Welsh and Anglo-Saxon languages are as related to Hebrew as they are to Chinese! Your claim is ludicrous! All of your arguments are based on false premises.
You don’t know yourself and you don’t know the enemy. You are trying to be your enemy! You are insane!
P.S. You do not have the intellectual acumen to understand, let alone expose any truths whatsoever. I am not going to continue arguing about your ridiculous, pathetic wish to be a Hebrew because you place so much faith in a piece of mythology written by dishonest cult leader power grabbers (like you) who prayed on the ignorance of their audience.
You are playing into the hands of your enemies! You are trying to mislead others into falling into the hands of your enemies! Your entire organization is nothing but a cult foisted upon you by your enemies.
Hebrews were and are not God’s chosen people. The Old Testament is hogwash! Indo-European and Hebrew are very far apart indeed!
There are two sets of mentally ill imposters claiming to be Hebrews.
@Connor McNessa:
You said:
You are obviously a self-aggrandizing cult leader.
Answer:
Wow- is that what I am while I raise my two children in a small town of Maine as old vet? Sheesh- I need to tell all my “followers” whose number is exactly 0.
You said
I am not ignorant of the Bible. It was written by humans, mostly cult leader con-men like you. Citing the Old Testament as proof of anything is ludicrous! It is one cult leader conman lunatic citing another!
Yea, and that is why you still refuse to give me an example of the “evil” God.
You said
The Welsh and Anglo-Saxon languages have nothing whatsoever to do with Hebrew. The Welsh and Anglo-Saxon languages are as related to Hebrew as they are to Chinese! Your claim is ludicrous! All of your arguments are based on false premises.
Answer
“From the list of Charles Edwards, L.G.A. Roberts (1919) made a selection and we have selected examples from Roberts after slightly modernising the Hebrew transliterations: It should be noted that when account is taken for likely and known dialectical changes of pronounciation the examples given in effect show identical Welsh parallel phrases for the Hebrew original.
In Welsh: Gael hedd (Gen.31;47) meaning Geledd i.e. heap of testimony=3D in Hebrew (=E2=EC=F2a) : Galaed.
In Welsh: Bagad meaning “A troop cometh y” (Gen.30;11) =3D in Hebrew ( :=(=E1=E2aBagad.
In Welsh : Anudon meaning “Without God” =3D in Hebrew (=E0=E9=EF =E0a=E5=EF=) : Aen Adon.
In Welsh : Yni all sy dda meaning “I am the Almighty God” (Gen. 17;1) =3D in Hebrew: ((=E0d=E9 =E0=EC =F9a=E9 : Ani El Saddai.
In Welsh : Llai iachu yngwyddd achau ni meaning “Let him not live before our brethren” (Gen. 31;32) =3D in Hebrew ( =EC=E0 =E9=E7=E9=E4 d=E2a =E0=E7==E9d=E5 ) Loa yichei
neged acheinu (Gen.31;32).
In Welsh Ochoren ballodddi hoc-dena meaning “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure?” =3D in Hebrew : (=E0=E7o=E9 =E1=EC=FA=E9 =E4=E9=FA=E4 =EC=E9==F2ad=E4 ) Acharei belothi hedenah (Gen.18;12).
In Welsh Bebroch fra am beneu ach ef, dyfet Deborah mam ianceth Ribecah meaning “When he fled from the face of his brother . But Deborah Rebecca’s=
nurse died” (Gen. 35;7-8) =3D in Hebrew : (=E1=E1o=E7=E5 =EE=F4d=E9 =E0=E7==E9=E5 =E5=FA=EE=FA a=E1o=E4 =EE=E9d=F7=FA o=E1=F7=E4) Beborcho mpnei achiv vetamath Deborah mayneceth Ribecah.
In Welsh: Yngan Job yscoli yscoli cynghaws i (Job 6;1,2) meaning “Job answered, O that my grief were thoroughly weighed” =3D in Hebrew: (=E5=E9=F2==EF =E0=E9=E5=E1…=F9=F7=E5=EC =E9=F9=F7=EC =EB=F2=F9=E9) Veya(g)n Eyub ….s=hocol yishocal ca(g)si
In Welsh: Amelhau bytheu chwi a bythau holl ufyddau chwi meaning “And they shall fill your house and the houses of all your servants” (Gen. 10;6) =3D=in Hebrew (=E5=EE=EC=E0=E5 =E1=FA=E9=EA =E5=E1=FA=E9 =EB=EC =F2=E1a=E9=EA) : =Umalu bathechoh and bathei col avedochoh.
In Welsh Iachadd ni meaning “Thou hast healed me” =3D in Hebrew ( (=E4=E7=E9==FAd=E9 : hechiyatni.
In Welsh Nesa awyr peneu chwi meaning “Lif thou up the light of thy countenance” =3D in Hebrew (d=F1=E4 =E0=E5o =F4d=E9=EA) : nasa aor panec=hoh.(Psalms 4;6.).
In Welsh An annos meaning “None did compel” =3D in Hebrew ((=E0=E9=EF =E0=d=F1 : ain ones. (Esther 1;8).
In Welsh As chwimwth meaning “an angry man” =3D in Hebrew (=E0=E9=F9 =E7==EE=F1) : ish chamas (Psalms 140;12 Proverbs 16;29 meaning a wickedly-violent man).
In Welsh Be heulo, luerferfo (Job 6;4) meaning “When his candle shined ….. and by his light..” =3D in Hebrew (=E1=E4=E9=EC=E5 ..=EC=E0=E5o=E5) =: behilo, leoroe.
In Welsh Bwgythieu in gwarchaeni (Job 6;4) meaning “The terrors of God set themselves in array against me =3D in Hebrew (=E1=F2=E5=FA=E9 =E0=EC=E5=E4= =E9=F2o=EB=E5d=E9) : Biu(g)thi elohai ya-a(g)rchuni.
In Welsh I far meaning “Shall be cursed” =3D Hebrew (=E9=E5=E0o) : Yu-ar,=yuv-ar. (Numbers 22;6).
In Welsh Am geryddo fo meaning “At his reproof” =3D in Hebrew (=F2=ED =E2=F2=o=FA=E5) : im ge-arato.”
You said
You don’t know yourself and you don’t know the enemy. You are trying to be your enemy! You are insane!
Answer
And you slander and demonize for lack of any ability to retort intelligently.
@Connor McNessa:
Here is a list (besides Robert the Bruce and all of those brave men who were a part of the Scottish Declaration of Independence) of some more “crazy” “insane” “cult leaders” as you put it…..
From Wikipedia (Btw, that’s Franklin’s favorite source) ;)
Numerous prominent scholars, academics and other notable figures have supported British Israelism including: the Canadian geologist and Bible scholar Edward Faraday Odlum, M.A. B.Sc. F.R.F.S. (1850–1935); Roger Rusk the brother of US secretary of state Dean Rusk, Hebrew scholar and professor in physics for 28 years at the University of Tennessee, British General Sir Walter Walker, KCB, CBE, DSO & bar (1912–2001); William Ferguson Massey, Prime Minister of New Zealand 1912–1925; Patience Strong (1907–1990), English Poetess; John Fisher, 1st Baron Fisher (1841–1920), GCB, OM, GCVO, Admiral of the Fleet; C. A. L. Totten, professor of Military Tactics at Yale University (1889–1892); John Cox Gawler (1830–1882), Keeper of the Monarch’s Crown Jewels; John Bracken, PC (1883–1969), 11th Premier of Manitoba (1922–1943) and leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada (1942–1948); Thomas Bavin KCMG (1874–1941), 24th Premier of New South Wales; Robert Randolph Bruce,Lieutenant Governor of British Columbia (1926–1931), Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich (1858—1926); Sir Standish G. Crauford, Brigadier-General, Bart., C.B., C.M.G., C.I.E., D.S.O, author of Our Celtic Heritage (1867); David Davidson, Esq., C.E., M.C., F.R.S.A., (1844–1956), famous British structural engineer; Sir Errol Manners K.B.E (1883–1953), distinguished Royal Navy admiral; Lt.-Col. J.A.McQueen, D.S.O., M.C. Military Intelligence; Joseph Cockfield Dimsdale PC, KCVO, Bt, Lord Mayor of London (1901–1902); William Henry Fasken, Brigadier-General, author of Israel’s Racial Origin and Migrations (1934); James Bernard Nicklin, (b. 1881); inventor and author of Testimony in Stone (1961), Sir George Grey, KCB (1812–1898), Governor-General of New Zealand; Reader Harris, K.C. (1847–1909), barrister and King’s Counsel; George Jowett (1891–1969), world-class gymnast, author of The Drama of the Lost Disciples (1961); Oliver Lodge FRS (1851–1940), prominent British physicist; Rev. Lawrence Graeme Allan Roberts (born 1844), Commander of the Royal Navy, author of British History Traced From Egypt And Palestine (1927); Herbert Aldersmith, F.R.C.S M.B. LSA (1847–1918), renowned English physician, Adam Rutherford, F.R.A.S., F.R.G.S.; founder of the Institute for Pyramidology and E. Raymond Capt.
As late as the 1860s and 1870s, several highly-educated men such as Professor Charles Piazzi Smyth, Astronomer Royal for Scotland, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, and Fellow of the Royal Societies of London and Edinburgh, Dr. George Moore, Member of the Royal College of Physicians, John Pym Yeatman, Esq., Fellow of the Royal Historical Society, C.O. Groom Napier, geologist and Fellow of the Royal Statistical Society, Dr. Herbert Aldersmith, Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons and others – though not professional anthropologists or ethnologists – were able to authoritatively voice the British-Israel message, which won over many converts. Charles Marston, Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London who funded major archaeological excavations across Palestine between 1929-1938 was also a notable academic proponent of British Israelism.
For@Connor McNessa:
For some reason all of my posts that list the famous company of people who believe as I do, keeps being “moderated”, so here is a link to Wikipedia (Franklin’s favorite source) that has a partial list half way down the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
This list does not include all those brave Scots who were a part of the Scottish Declaration of Independence in 1320 such as Robert the Bruce.
@TyronRobertParsons:
The good news is that tiresome Tyron lives in a small village and has zero followers. The bad news is that he has a computer.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Franklin- you are the most pathetic excuse for an “intellectual” I have EVER met on the net. All you do is throw insult after insult- slander after slander always refusing to debate issues or disprove your opposition’s contentions. Besides that, you’re coward of the first order refusing to ever meet me in person while taking the offer as a backhanded way to imply I was “threatening” you so as to have me booted from here. Anyone who takes you seriously and cannot see that you are a false opposition Jew troll should be dismissed as a fool. And I am not exaggerating one single bit.
@Connor McNessa:
@Solly:
I should also take this opportunity to point out for about the 50th time that the so called “jews” are neither of Judah or Israel, spiritually or physically. They outright admit they are from Ashkenaz and Esau (Edom)-otherwise known in the bible as Gog and Magog.
It’s a little conspiratorial: but I have to wonder if the purpose in facilitating these uprisings which puts Israel-unfriendly governments in power is so that Israel can, in the future, make war against them. Moderates and Western puppets can’t be destroyed outright. If, however, the worst of the Muslim barbarians are helped into power, that would perhaps legitimize taking military action against them.
Is Israel working currently to create its future “persecutors”?
“The bad news is that he has a computer.”
Amen to that. Do they ban cranks around here? If they don’t, they should.
@Solly:Hubris and Nemesis?
Have you ever wondered why a deus ex machina is resorted to. It’s because pure morality has no reward in this world. White intellectuals are infuriated by Israel’s successes because Whites espouse pure morality that is devoid of self-interest, but they also think it’s intolerable if virtue is not rewarded. As the reward in the next world is no longer believed in, White thinkers have to say that Israel’s actions are counter-productive (for Israel) in this world. Not a chance, Israel is going to crush the Arab enemy states. The Palestinian people will realize they have lost and be absorbed into the neighbouring Arab statelets. All this will be instructive for Whites. One might think Whites’ displacement in their own countries would show them the way the world works without any need for the example of Israel vanquishing the Palestinians.
@Someday:
Is this piece of Realpolitik meant as an objective statement or the expression of a secret ( Zionist ) wish?
@Someday:
I maintain that as we see the world being divided into West vs East camps- the Asian powers will come to the aid of their Arab neighbors because after all, the real prize is who is going to control “Israel”. It is the center for the 3 monolithic religions which comprise the majority of the world’s belief systems. It is also the center of world trade and water ways- allowing also one’s military to easily strike almost anyone on the globe very quickly. So if one wants to control the world they must control both America and “Israel” because they are exactly opposite one another on the globe (America can strike at central and south America easier than a power in the ME. One could argue that the same thing could be done by controlling both poles, but as of now, no large population of people could inhabit such a climate.
“Israel” and I think this is undisputed here, is trying to destroy the west and his empowering the east. Why? Because they need a WW3 scenario to complete their rule. What I think you are not seeing is that white people are being pushed out of their nations in the 4 corners of the earth. This will allow for the “Jews” to maintain false sympathy for their fairytale history because what happened to the “Jews” in Europe (constructed by the “Jews” themselves) is now happening the native whites in their homelands.
It is not the “Jews” who will crush the Arab states. They do not have the power to do so and when the Asian powers step in make their bid for center earth (ME) the “Jews” will suddenly see that in order to hold the area, they must flood their own lands with whites. This will give us the advantage we have been looking for. This will allow us to finally deal with the psychopaths- but we will also have to deal with the Arab/Asia alliance.
For those who think we can somehow go back to the structure of old, they are kidding themselves. A new type nationalism will have to be born out of the semi globalist structure and we cannot begin this project until we have both dealt with the “Jews” and the Arab/Asian alliance.
@fender:
Right, except that time when they defeated Napoleon and then saved the world (almost single-handedly) by destroying the Nazis. Paper tigers, right.
@Shiva: I heard that Israel were arming and funding Kadafi during the uprising in Libya. Was Israel playing both sides? or is there in-fighting within the US and Israeli governments?
The US has an interest in preventing radical nationalism in the Middle East .
Because it lacks strategic importance and is alienating other countries in the region from the US, Israel is a liability rather than an asset.
@Someday:
You said
Israel is a liability rather than an asset
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I think that is the understatement of the year.
@Pavel:
Was it not, in both cases, some old man, named Winter, that defeated the foreign invaders of good, old Mother Russia?!? Regardless, the world was hardly saved by ‘Uncle Joe’ Stalin’s Bolshevik regime’s surviving the Barbarossan onslaught of the Nazified Huns, under their Austrian pretender!?!?!
To Someday 6:44 Nihilism. Acceptance of the lowest, most sordid denominator. I don’t think Whites WANT to do things your way. They would not be happy.
Dr. McDonald, why is crazy Tyrone Parsons allowed to hijack every thread with his theories? Even if one arees wholeheartedly with his ideas, it must be admitted that his theories are totally irrevelevant to the articles being discussed.
For instance this article is about summer of 2012 Israel and American Jews pushing the US into invading Syria and destroying it as we destroyed Libya, Iraq etc.
What does Tyrone Parsons theories about E Africa cerca 1million years ago have to do with anything? Or whatever was or was not going on in what is now known as Palestine
in 5,000 BC?
The problem with Tyrone is that his postings are soooo long, numerous and garbled.
Perhaps if everyone just ignored him he would stop posting his incoherent bible blabbling. Any time anyone replies to one of his lengthy postings, he replies with something even longer and more fraudulent, false and fantastic.
Most of his postings on this article are responses to comments made on his postings.
I once asked him to explain exactly how, almost 600 years after HenryVIII confisticated every inch of Catholic church property and real estate in England the Vatican still “owns” the City of London.
He never did. So why do we encourage him by asking questions. He just clips and pastes his incessant bible babblings.
If he is ignored, maybe he will not overwhelm every discussion with his theories.
Dr. McDonald, why is crazy TR Parsons allowed to hijack every thread with his theories? Even if one arees wholeheartedly with his ideas, it must be admitted that his theories are totally irrevelevant to the articles being discussed.
For instance this article is about summer of 2012 Israel and American Jews pushing the US into invading Syria and destroying it as we destroyed Libya, Iraq etc.
What does Tyrone Parsons theories about E Africa cerca 1million years ago have to do with anything? Or whatever was or was not going on in what is now known as Palestine
in 5,000 BC?
The problem with Tyrone is that his postings are soooo long, numerous and garbled.
Perhaps if everyone just ignored him he would stop posting his incoherent bible blabbling. Any time anyone replies to one of his lengthy postings, he replies with something even longer and more fraudulent, false and fantastic.
Most of his postings on this article are responses to comments made on his postings.
I once asked him to explain exactly how, almost 600 years after HenryVIII confisticated every inch of Catholic church property and real estate in England the Vatican still “owns” the City of London.
He never did. So why do we encourage him by asking questions. He just clips and pastes his incessant bible babblings.
If he is ignored, maybe he will not overwhelm every discussion with his theories.
@mari:
Franklin aka Mari
I could piss and moan to KM about your constant use of multiple accounts and names to harass and stalk anyone who doesn’t fall into your prison of Marxist matrix thought and speech, but I know that would do no good.
KM has a guideline for his rules concerning speech here and he is well aware of the MO you Jew troll’s use to constantly accuse others of what you are presently guilty of.
I speak about the subject matter that is in front of me, and as everyone else here, I add to the post I respond to, normally from a WHITE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CREATIONIST IDENTITY perspective.
Boo freakin who jew troll…
You Jews are the biggest complainers on the planet and if there is one thing you hate more than anything, it is the white/European peoples coming to the truth of whatever matter is being discussed and then dissiminating it to other whites of the same or different belief system.
So-piss and moan all you like- keep crying your crocodile tears; the facts are, people are coming to deeper and deeper understandings of the truth, whether that be the evolution of Jewish psychology or the WHITE Christian perspective on these matters which interestingly enough, often back up the conclusions drawn by the other.
The reason your ilk hate the white Christian identity perspective so much is because it completely annihilates every pretense of your bogus biblical claims that are used as the foundation of your so called justifications to occupy Palestine toward your ultimate goal of ruling the world on the white man’s ashes.
Nuff said… ;)
@TyroneParsons
I just took a wild guess that you are a cult leader. The Christian Identity movement is a loony cult. If you are a leader in it, even a minor leader, you are a cult leader. If not, then I stand corrected. You are just a member of a cult or a cult believer. Your cult is at least as insane as the scientologists’ cult.
There are all kinds of charlatans claiming that totally unrelated languages are related and they constantly bring out word lists claiming that they are identical. They are usually not linguists and not experts and fluent in the languages that they are comparing. Are you fluent in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek as well as Old Welsh. You really need the first three to even claim to be a first-rate Biblical scholar. You need fluency and expertise in Old Welsh and expertise in linguistics if you claim expertise or even knowledge backing your claims.
As for your quotation of biblical genaeologies, I put no store in that nonsense at all. Also, if Europeans are Hebrews, they should look like and have similar genetics to Middle Eastern Semites, especially the Assyrians, and Caanaitic populations. They are quite a bit different, for the most part. A Norwegian doesn’t have much in common with and Assyrian in phenotypic appearance or genetics. They belong to the same major race, though.
As for your veteran status, how does that prove that you don’t belong to a cult or that you are correct about your Christian Identity claims. How does that prove that you are a Hebrew? Well, granted, you may have supported Zionist wars or military intervention. I guess you worked for Hebrews. So you are at least a servant of Hebrews.
I am not going to kowtow to you for your veteran status or for having kids. Was it difficult creating those kids? You want kudos for it?
As for my passing mention of two identifiable entitities that are claimed to have been divine (based on the work of real biblical scholars), well you mentioned one in your word-list. El Shaddai, the Lord of the Mount. Look at the behavior of that entity and see if it doesn’t look like the behavior of a malefactor, an evil-doer. I do not accept that that is the True Good God. You decide for yourself. If you want to follow El Shaddai, it’s your soul, not mine. I do not care to try to tell you who to worship. The One True and Good God has given all of us free will. I do wish that you would quit preaching that nonsense at us here, though. You seem to be at least trying to be a cult leader. Maybe you are just a wannabe, just like you are a wannabe Hebrew Israelite.
I am not and do not claim to be a Biblical scholar. I do not put any store in it, can you get that through your thick Hebrew skull? Maybe you are a Hebrew after all, you are sure stubborn enough to pass. I used to know a dog named Setanta who was as stubborn as you:) He was admirable, though.
As for the Masons, especially the Scottish Rite Masons, they have done good but they are also and have been involved in a lot of malfeasance. I do not care for secret societies. There were some great Masons but I am convinced that at the very highest secret levels they are more harmful than good, for all of mankind. They are not the only ones. There are a lot of wicked evil-doers and a lot of evil secret societies who’s lower orders often are not really aware of the real thrust of their organizations. The members are extremely arrogant from the bottom to the top or from the top to the bottom. That is where the somewhat unaware lower orders are still evil-doers, they have the same hubris and disdain for humanity as the highest members. Take the Council on Foreign Relations and their Fabian Marxism, for example. Unmitigated hubris from top to bottom.
That is why I mentioned the Masons previously. Speaking of the Masons, don’t they support Isreal and Zionism and haven’t they from the get-go? Don’t they support who you claim are false Hebrews?
@Connor McNessa:
Tyron is no cult leader, he himself denied that, but he is a fervent believer in Christian Identity and is absolutely impervious to rational arguments against it.
As for his claim that Welsh is related to Hebrew ( thus proving his CI idea ), I know nothing about Welsh and only a little about Hebrew, but I have studied many languages and know something about comparative linguistics. I have checked his examples of socalled Welsh-Hebrew similarities against on-line dictionaries and found them entirely unconvincing.
Following is a list of his socalled kindred Hebrew-Welsh words ( from his comment on July 26, 6:47 pm ) with the REAL Welsh words I found on the web, written in capitals :
English – Hebrew – “Welsh” – Welsh :
house – beith – byth – TŶ
light – or – awyr – GOLAU,GOLEUAD
face – pni – benen – WYNEB
brother – ach – ach – BRAWD
not – lo – llai – DDIM,NI
I – ani – yni – I, MI, MYFI
lord – adon – don – NAF, NÂaR, UDD, UNBEN
I am afraid that these Welsh “similarities” are wholly made up by the author of this “text” to prove his CI idea. In short his source is fake.
To believe in the CI idea you need to be completely ignorant about the racial and cultural differences between the peoples of the Middle East and Europe and their history and prehistory. Tyron meets these requirements perfectly.
@Connor McNessa:
You said:
There are all kinds of charlatans claiming that totally unrelated languages are related and they constantly bring out word lists claiming that they are identical. They are usually not linguists and not experts and fluent in the languages that they are comparing. Are you fluent in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek as well as Old Welsh. You really need the first three to even claim to be a first-rate Biblical scholar. You need fluency and expertise in Old Welsh and expertise in linguistics if you claim expertise or even knowledge backing your claims.
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This is why I was listing a number of linguistic experts who maintain what I do.
You said
As for your quotation of biblical genaeologies, I put no store in that nonsense at all. Also, if Europeans are Hebrews, they should look like and have similar genetics to Middle Eastern Semites, especially the Assyrians, and Caanaitic populations. They are quite a bit different, for the most part. A Norwegian doesn’t have much in common with and Assyrian in phenotypic appearance or genetics. They belong to the same major race, though.
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No not at all. You assume this because you are taking at face value what certain people in the ME look like today without considering the migration factors of a host of people.
You said
As for your veteran status, how does that prove that you don’t belong to a cult or that you are correct about your Christian Identity claims. How does that prove that you are a Hebrew? Well, granted, you may have supported Zionist wars or military intervention. I guess you worked for Hebrews. So you are at least a servant of Hebrews.
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Yes, I am a old vet living in a small down in Maine. This is what I am which is pretty damn far from any “cult leader”- which is a typical slander toward anyone who believes in CI claims.
You said
As for my passing mention of two identifiable entitities that are claimed to have been divine (based on the work of real biblical scholars), well you mentioned one in your word-list. El Shaddai, the Lord of the Mount. Look at the behavior of that entity and see if it doesn’t look like the behavior of a malefactor, an evil-doer. I do not accept that that is the True Good God. You decide for yourself. If you want to follow El Shaddai, it’s your soul, not mine. I do not care to try to tell you who to worship. The One True and Good God has given all of us free will. I do wish that you would quit preaching that nonsense at us here, though. You seem to be at least trying to be a cult leader. Maybe you are just a wannabe, just like you are a wannabe Hebrew Israelite.
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You said he was an evil God- I said GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE. This means you must directly quote something to try and prove your point.
You said
I am not and do not claim to be a Biblical scholar. I do not put any store in it, can you get that through your thick Hebrew skull? Maybe you are a Hebrew after all, you are sure stubborn enough to pass. I used to know a dog named Setanta who was as stubborn as you:) He was admirable, though.
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Yes, I know your not a bible scholar and I would bet you have read less than a couple pages of it with the comments you make. See, this is the point. You have NO CLUE about what you are trying to make yourself a judge on. Get it? READ IT FIRST and then come here and make an informed post.
Concerning the Mason’s/Jewish Zionists- yes you make a valid observation. What one must understand though is this. They are setting up a false world Government with their anti Christs FIRST by mimicking scriptural prophesy etc. Then the TRUE Kingdom comes into being as these anti Christ- fake “Jews” and their cohorts are destroyed. One must understand scriptures to be able to seperate the two- otherwise they will be completely lost concerning the events that are unfolding- even today.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Shut up fake Jew troll- you have already been addressed and exposed as the anti white Jew that you are.
@Connor McNessa:
This little video by Dr Capt might help you understand some more of what I am trying to relay. OLD Welsh and OLD Saxon have 80 and 50% identicial rates to ANCIENT Hebrew- not modern “Hebrew” which is a fake Jew invention if Esau and Ashkenaz.
Check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0wG0EVG5Ec
This is just a small portion of the evidence. We also have genetic evidence- ship structure evidence- other archeological evidence- admissions from the old Europeans in their documents- bibilical evidence and it ALL lines up PERFECTLY.
@TyronRobertParsons:
It all lines up perfectly for perfect fools only. That video is typical nonsense by “believing” Christian Identity idiots. All their statements can be easily refuted by real scholars.
The Scythians are Israelites because “Scythian” sounds like “Isaac”, that is the proof! The Iberians are Israelites because their name sounds like “Hebrews”! The Romans called the “Scythians of the North” Germani because they were the “true” ( “germane”) Israelites, and so on.
This is a type of clumsy amateuristic “science” that makes even children laugh. Your “proofs” are either quotations from the Book of Fables, the Bible itself or from charlatans. You’re incurable!
There are thousands of Classical Greek and Classical Roman Latin words in the sciences, religion, government, medicine, etc. That constitutes absolute proof that Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Dutch, Germans, English, Irish, and Scottish people are 50% Greek and 50% Roman. The Italians and Greeks are fake Italians and Greeks. They are really Huns.
@TyronRobertParsons
My last comment was to you.
Kudos to Franklin Ryckaert for having the patience to wade through you CI propaganda in order to expose your irrational intellectual bankruptcy.
I’ve read a lot more of it than that. I am not going to waste my time digging up passages from a foreign, Near Eastern work of lunacy to try to convince a lunatic who worships a book and a fallen angel.
How dare you claim to know how much I have read of the Bible or anything else!? You do not know me. How dare you preach to me!?
The bottom line is this: I am not going to throw in my lot with any of you “Christian Identity” clowns. Never. I will never ally myself with any of you. Not the ones in Maine, not the ones in Elohim City, not the ones in Idaho, or South Carolina, not any one of them TyronRobertParsons.
@Connor McNessa:
Ya, there ya go, don’t watch the video just slander and say you don’t have the time. Humm…could this be yet another Franklin (Jew name) Ryckaert (Jew name) account? lol probably…
@TyronRobertParsons:
Hey I got an idea. If you do not believe me…OK..fine…I don’t really care so why don’t you and Frankin the jew troll NOT ADDRESS me anymore. Is that possible? Don’t ASK ME QUESTIONS- how about that? You believe what you want and I will what I want and then we can simply speak to other people. Deal? (any bets this will happen when hell freezes over folks) As of right now, I will not address Franklin anymore, unless of course, he continues to disrupt my conversations with other people.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I Yahweh do all these things.
- Isaiah 45:7
Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?
- Lamentations 3:38
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and Yahweh hath not done it?
- Amost 3:6
Just to set the record straight, I am not, as I am sure the moderator knows, Franklin Ryckaert. Franklin and I share a disdain for the CI rants and pathologies that are common in the comments section here. I commend Franklin for spending the time on fact checks concerning Parsons’ bizarre claims. I do not have the patience for it and Parsons is not worth it. Let him waste his life away on his nonsense. I will ignore him in the future. He will eventually learn the error of his ways.
I am going to endeaver to stay more on-topic in the future.
Connor McNessa signing off!
Tyron! You said you are an old vet. Didn’t you say a short time ago that you were busy preparing for midterms? Stimmt nicht, as the Berliners would say. But I am sure you will now say that you are a superbly intellectually ambitious 82 year old ex-marine studying theology.
@Connor McNessa:
Yea Conner, we get your claim now would you mind not speaking to me anymore with your camps typical slanders concerning things you simply do not understand? Let’s part…you go your way and leave me alone. I will go my way and leave you alone…kapeish?
@Solly:
I am a 44 yr old Vet having served on the Czech border standing guard against the Soviet “Jewish” horde. I am an ex publisher, sales person and now I plan on working in the up coming Christian/Common/Constitutional courts that will be opening nation wide so I am getting my legal degree to help facilitate the transfer of some personnel that swear back onto the Constitution forging their foreign title status as BAR (British Accredited Registiry) lawyer. I also with the Maine Reinhabited Republic (Free State) that recently served papers in the Hague toward world recognition of our lawful Articles of Confederation Governments.
@Z.O.G.:
I do not expect you to believe this and that is okedoke with me. None the less, here are the understandings you ought to have.
Amos 3:6
3 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying,
2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
4 Will a lion roar in the forest, when he hath no prey? will a young lion cry out of his den, if he have taken nothing?
5 Can a bird fall in a snare upon the earth, where no gin is for him? shall one take up a snare from the earth, and have taken nothing at all?
6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?
Yep, and just like in America as we see these fake Jews running amok, you can say to yourself, this is indeed God’s punishment and YOU should be afraid (least you are in his graces) because this has been brought on the people of Israel due to their turning their backs on the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob- the one who had given them dominion over the entire earth- part of the NT Contract- to preach onto the whole world and set an example of how to be. This is not “evil” this is called JUSTICE but to those it is happening to, they will consider it evil because they know not the Creator/Savior; they do not know that his punishments are designed to (like a good father) for the betterment of his children.
@Z.O.G.:
Lamentations 3:38- Lets look at this in context:
31 For the LORD will not cast off for ever:
32 But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies.
33 For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.
34 To crush under his feet all the prisoners of the earth.
35 To turn aside the right of a man before the face of the most High,
36 To subvert a man in his cause, the LORD approveth not.
37 Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?
38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?
39 Wherefore doth a living man complain, a man for the punishment of his sins?
40 Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD.
41 Let us lift up our heart with our hands unto God in the heavens.
Again, from man’s perspective, whatever “bad” happens- whatever sufferings he endures, to him this is evil. This is the context you should be understanding 38 but as you can see, King David corrects their thinking on the matter.
@Z.O.G.:
Isaiah 45:7 Again, lets look at it in context;
4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?
11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
What you should understand is that the Creator/Savior created Lucifer. This was his number 1 angel and he had 3 primary gifts, beauty, intelligence and music. At the creation of Man who was made in the Creator’s imagine, Lucifer became jealous because he understood that this ALL the angels would have to bow to this new creation. He rebelled, tricking 1/3 of the angels to war against the creator and his angels in heaven. Lucifer, now called Satan (enemy) was cast from heaven into the earth with his angels. Because the new creation was based upon free will, the Creator decided to give Satan one place in the garden, warning both Adam and Eve that everything was for them and their use except this one “tree”. You know the rest but I explained this to show you how the Creator is even in control of Lucifer (Satan) and uses him to bring about his own will for the good. Again, when one hears statements like Isaiah 45:7, they ought to ask from what perspective is the speaker talking from or about.
@TyronRobertParsons:
In short, you are busy in a totally imaginary project, what was to be expected.
Are you also an active member of the Hollow Earth Society, or a minister in your local Christian Identity Church, or a salesman in castles in the air?
Who has killed more, Satan or God?
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/who-has-killed-more-satan-or-god.html
@TyronRobertParsons:
“Ha Satan”(the Adversary) is not an evil character in the Jewish Tanakh. He is portrayed as good and/or neutral.
The same cannot be said of Yahweh. Yahweh is portrayed in the Tanakh as a malovolent figure. In fact, it could be argued that the character Yahweh is the most evil figure in all of world literature.
@Z.O.G.:
How many has God killed? (Complete list and estimated total)
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html
@Z.O.G.:
Drunk with Blood: God’s Killings in the Bible
http://drunkwithblood.com/
@Z.O.G.:
You said:
Who has killed more, Satan or God?
Answer
This is an ignorant question. Satan has the power of death, God, the prime creator has the power of death and life hence whatever is made dead, can be made alive again ONLY by him. To bitch about this is to war against God because of the fact that all things die- and this will include you one day whether you like it or not.
You said:
“Ha Satan”(the Adversary) is not an evil character in the Jewish Tanakh. He is portrayed as good and/or neutral.
The same cannot be said of Yahweh. Yahweh is portrayed in the Tanakh as a malovolent figure. In fact, it could be argued that the character Yahweh is the most evil figure in all of world literature.
Answer:
This is a FAKE JEW Talmudic interpretation of the OT.
Lastly, God, as the prime creator, has property rights over all that is which is all that IS IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE and beyond. He can do with it as he pleases just as a person can make a clay pot and dash it to pieces- so does the creator of all have these supreme rights. Who are you to bitch? You arguments are leftist, atheistic, Marxist and Bolshevik “Jew” in nature.
You said:
@TyronRobertParsons:
Yeah, and just as this “god” Yahweh, like any other “god” in the world, is a creation of the human mind, so can an enlightened human mind dash such projections to pieces. Bye-bye bubble Yahweh, you’re burst now!
malovolent > malevolent ( repeated from Z.O.G. )
the creator have > the creator has.
Sorry, Tyrone, but it is clear from any reading of the Jewish Tanakh that your imaginary spook Yahweh is a completely despicable character. Of course, this isn’t surprising, since Yahweh is the collective psychological projection of that special little ancient tribe of cutthroat desert bandits.
@Z.O.G.:
You cannot explain the idea of “psychological projection” to a religious fanatic.
It would be similarily impossible to convince a fundamentalist Muslim, who is ready to blow himself up for Allah, that “Allah” is only a psychological projection. Instead of making him think about it, he would become aggressive toward you, trying to defend the “honour of Allah”.
Tyron is absolutely impervious to any criticism of Yahweh’s primitive, tribal and even “demonic” character. For him Yahweh is the real “God” and any criticism of this “God” makes you an enemy of “Him”, or a “Jew”, descendant of Esau instead of swindler Jacob the ancestor – as he believes – of all white Europeans.
Religion and reason are two mutually exclusive terms.
“The CER is overseen by Lord Kerr, the deputy chairman of Royal Dutch Shell.”
Interestingly, Shell was founded by Marcus Samuel (Jew), who helped fund the Sino-Japanese war.
Given the different languages used in the “old” as well as “new” testaments [ hebrew, aramaic, greek, latin, as well as english] and attributed to names such as Genesis, Romans,Corinthians, Revelation, Galatin, et al at different times from say around Moses’s time [circa 1400 B.C.] to 90 A.D. by some estimated 40 authors how relevant can that be to being God’s will/words?
Look forward to responses!
For some time there has been a split in Israel on the Iran issue. It is known that there is considerable opposition to attacking Iran from people like Meir Dagan (Mossad) and Gen Gabby Ashkenazi (the military). They are opposed by Netanyahu, who seems to be very keen to attack Iran. Dagan and Ashkenazi know that Israel will get a bloody nose if it attacks Iran, so they can be seen as nationalists. Netanyahu on the other hand is a globalist – so he follows the Rothschild line. It is known that the Rothschilds have accounts to settle with Russia and China, and that one way of settling them is to attack their protege, Iran. Let us not forget that the Russians clawed back control of their economy in 2003 when they jailed Khodorkovsky and ignored his mentor Jacob Rothschild. In April 2005, the Chinese announced that they would protect their banking system from the WTO, thus slipping out of the trap laid for them by the Rothschilds. Israel needs to be seen in the light of the conflict between the globalists and the nationalists. What is being played out in the Middle East involves both, but in the last analysis, Israel is a pawn that may well be sacrificed if the globalists prevail.
@Dr. Faust:
Would it then not follow that the USA should also be destablized to keep zionist control…..with dangerous Hillary doing their bidding?