A recurrent theme here is the contrast between the moral universalism of the West versus Jewish moral particularism. Moral universalism is a corrollary of individualism: Groups have no moral standing. Stealing doesn’t become right depending on what group the victim belongs to.
But Jewish ethics is based fundamentally on the group status of perpetrator and victim. It’s okay if the victim is from a different group. And within the group, ethics is structured so that the group as a whole benefits: What’s good for the Jews.
Dennis Praeger has a nice column on traditional Jewish moral particularism (“Can Halachah ever be wrong?“).
Suppose you ordered an electric shaver from a store owned by non-Jews, and by accident the store sent you two shavers. Would you return the second shaver?
Nine said they would not. One said he would.
What is critical to understand is why they answered the way they did. The nine who would not return the second shaver were not crooks. They explained that halachah (Jewish law) forbade them from returning the other shaver. According to halachah, as they had been taught it, a Jew is forbidden to return a lost item to a non-Jew. The only exception is if the non-Jew knows a Jew found the item and not returning it would cause anti-Semitism or a Khilul Hashem (desecration of God’s name). The one who said he would return it gave that very reason — that it would be a Khilul Hashem if he didn’t return it and could be a Kiddush Hashem (sanctification of God’s name) if he did. But he, too, did not believe he was halachically bound to return the shaver.
The nine were not wrong, and they were not taught wrong. That is the halachah. Rambam (Maimonides) ruled that a Jew is permitted to profit from a non-Jew’s business error.
Traditional Jewish law had different penalties for a variety of crimes—theft, taking advantage of business errors, rape, and murder (reviewed in Ch. 6 of A People That Shall Dwell Alone, p. 148ff). Even proselytes who had converted to Judaism had a lower moral standing than other Jews—a fact that has doubtless weighed heavily with prospective converts.
So now that we are living in an enlightened age in the Diaspora West, surely it’s time to change the law of the Talmud. But, as Praeger notes, even though the law on appropriating the results of a business error by a non-Jew seems immoral, “we have long been in a period in which rabbinic, that is, man-made, halachah just cannot change.”
Rabbinic law is set in stone. Contrast that to the teachings of the Catholic Church which were completely overhauled as a result of Vatican II, including traditional teachings on the Jews, and not without Jewish pressure.
In 2007 Cardinal Francis George of the Archdiocese of Chicago had the courage to bring up the topic with a call of a more two-sided approach, mentioning as particularly offensive “descriptions of Jesus as a “bastard.”
It does work both ways. Maybe this is an opening to say, “Would you care to look at some of the Talmudic literature’s description of Jesus as a bastard, and so on, and maybe make a few changes in some of that?”
It didn’t happen, of course.
Facing the Future as a Minority
The Roma, (gypsies), with their clanishness, anti-social behaviour, moral particularism and ability to survive despite harsh persecution, are quite similar. In fact, but for their different origins and the almost universally low social status of the Roma, studying the behaviour of one group can give one insight into the behaviour of the other.
I just read the article about Cardinal George’s call to reform the liturgy to prevent it from being offensive to Jews.
As regards the Jews being the ancestors of Christians in the faith, Cardinal George is stooping to an intellectual dishonesty, which, though I am no longer a believer, I still find deeply offensive. Christians have at least as much right historically to claim for themselves the status of being the true chosen people. If Christ really did establish a new covenant, then the old one is now, at best, second rate, and the people who claim to be the heirs to the Abrahamic are not “ancestors in the faith but, at best, distant cousins, at worst, usurpers. Christians are, if you will, “completed” Jews, and Jews are, conversely, just embryonic Christians.
How does Cardinal George imagine that the faithful, (or people in general for that matter), can arrive at the truth, if they can’t even speak their ideas honestly and openly for fear of making someone “uncomfortable?”
So basically, Rabbinic Jews are the complete opposite of Quakers.
Coincidentally, the industrial revolution and unprecedented prosperity made their first appearance in England, while Poland and Moldavia became mired in ever more abject poverty.
So, in the space of a few paragraphs, KMD summarizes the nature of jewdaism.
No need to spend $25 on a book that ponders the question of race or religion – it’s irrelevant.
Jewdaism is simply an age-old, worldwide syndicate of influence peddlers.
Regardless of the type of government people choose to use, there are always those who, after some time, gain disproportionate influence, due to their networking.
Even in the former USSR, wherein 90% of the people had the same standard of living, there was still that 10% who had it better, due to their party membership and/or other connections. Jews were disproportionately represented among that 10%.
It goes without saying that in the “freer” (capitalist) societies, it is even easier for jews to become influential.
Jewdaism is ethnic networking, nothing more, nothing less.
I believe that thousands of years ago, some of these influence peddlers had the clever idea to simply label their associations as a “religion” – thus jewdaism was born.
It certainly doesn’t have anything to do with deity worship. That’s for gullible people.
It is vitally important to share this information as widely as possible. It is clear that the paralysis that our country faces today is that we have become mired in the same mess. Jews seem to have a compulsion to make rules, elaborate on rules and then talk about the elaboration. The real reason we do not have an entirely new, simplified tax system is because too many Jews make their living by claiming to be the high priests who can navigate the secret language for you. Every where you tune you run into the absurdities of this system. And everyone knows it.
I think there’s a subtle mistake here. The West didn’t quite have ‘moral universalism’. When there were clashes between nations, i.e. wars, the rules were different within each nation from the rules, such as they were, applicable to rival people outside. This is part of the way Jews dig at whites – there are sufficient cases of white misbehavior to allow Jews to ridicule the pretensions of e.g. Christianity. However, many people within each nation must have felt that there were fairly fixed rules for everyone they knew personally.
“there are sufficient cases of white misbehavior to allow Jews to ridicule the pretensions of e.g. Christianity.”
Yes, Jews today play the role of Satan from the Book of Job ie. Chief Prosecutor; where every failing is put to the ultimate test and exploited. This is made easy by controlling the jew-diciary and media power where every hypocrisy is thrown back in the white man’s face without ever providing a fair comparison to others.
RE: Ethics. When I was young, the Good Samaritan tale basically was the entirety of Christian (Catholic) teaching. That story alone makes clear the difference between the two groups.
Why can’t we be more like Germany?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDnbUR-yXpg
In the NT we find Jews discussing ‘Who is my neighbor?’, which I think is debating particularism by another name; whilst amongst Gentiles there has long been a law of nations that was deemed applicable, though not enforceable, in time of war. So we can’t be totally black and white, so to speak.
Frlix, I agree with you . From a Traditional Catholic point of view the Jews are the fallen people and Catholics the new chosen ones
@hhold:
All ‘chosen’ are not equal, like all religions/faith/ideology etc are not equal. Jews always use this ambiguity to lessen the focus on their own practices/ideology. eg. There’s no equivalent to catholic guilt or protestant work ethic in Judaism, and their God isn’t universal in spirit.
Put it this way; No-one is going to read Dante and think they won the jackpot when it comes to being God’s chosen people.
@Alice Teller: “simplified tax system”
simplified legal system
simplified education system
simplified entertainment system
simplified government system
simplified corporate system
simplified information system [oops, the internet, how long can it continue... consider it, everyone who is sitting there reading "http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/07/traditional-jewish-ethics/"]
In the mindset of many Jews, it is almost as if scamming people is evidence of how smart one is and not to do so when the opportunity presents itself is foolish. I remember a Jewish guy who lived next door to me in the dorms years ago telling me how his sister, who had just been admitted into Stanford University’s MBA program, had bought expensive stereo equipment to transfer her music records onto audiotape. She then returned the stereo equipment to the store. He was not embarrassed; he took pride in his sister’s cleverness. It is hard to see how a society can function well if this should be the general attitude.
I know very well that adultery and fornication with non Jewish women is perfectly acceptable in traditional Judiasm.
That is because all human non Jews are not really humans at all. We are all goyim, sub human beasts of burden put on earth to serve Jews. Bestiality is against Jewish law, but sex with agboy woman is not because the goys are lower than animals.
I wonder if it applies to rape as well? I am sure those laws are the reason secular Jewish men are known far and wide for being unfaithful husbands who manage life long marriages.
Since the girl friends are sub human goys, why not.
It definitely accounts for the NYC spectable of all those hasids
picking up prostitutes and being serviced in their cars 4 to 8 pm on their way home to Williamsburg from Manhattan.
There are accounts of eastern European girls being invited to Israel, having their papers destroyed, and being locked up and forced into prostitution. (I don’t know how true this is; but it appears to be legal in Israel). Much of Michael A Hoffman II’s work is in throwing light on this sort of thing, and analogies through the ages.
The nine who would not return the second shaver were not crooks.
LOL Praeger. Of course the nine would be crooks.
Oh, wait, is Praeger just summarizing someone else’s story? Summarizing the Rabbi’s story? Summarizing the Rabbi’s explanation? With approval? In concurrence? Just asking? What, exactly, is the point of Praeger’s essay?
@Hedgerow:
You wrote: “It is hard to see how a society can function well if this should be the general attitude.”
If that’s the general attiude, a society can’t. (Truly, we should hope that most people are too moral to cleave to Jewish values.)
If all the people in a society are good and honest, it can function well. If most of society is good and honest, with only a few miscreants, the society can still function. If the entire society, or at least a critical number, behaves like a band of miscreants, the socity collapses.
Jews depend on healthy societies to survive. Their scams only work on honest people, who’ve never encountered their chicanery before. They need people who are trusting, who believe that most people are honest and don’t know of Judaism’s double standard.
Their social fit into a society at large is a bit like that of the dysfunctional member of a family who, consequently, makes the family at large dysfunctional. The family still survives, because there are healthy members of the family to offset the behaviour of the dysfunctional member, and the dysfunctional member depends on the rest of the family’s normalcy to give him/her a matrix in which to operate.
I once deeply respected Judaism, until I studied it. Then I came away a sad realist, horrified at what I’d learned. Non-Jews who still respect Judaism, I have found, are intellectually or morally dishonest or lazy, or they really know very little about it.
The 9 would not be crooks because they had not stolen. They would, however, be dishonest for not returning the shaver. It’s not the same thing. The mindset of being prevented from returning to a Gentile is most telling.
Byzantium had it right: keep Jews out of finance, education, and government and you will not be influenced by them.
Perhaps this Praeger article (and the Halacha ethics its reveals) sheds some light on the final plight of the late Bobby Fischer, the chess genius. Fischer claimed that he entrusted his belongings — memorabilia from his career, worth millions because of their historical value — to a Jewish safe-storage company, only to have the Jew in charge refuse to acknowledge Fischer’s faithful and on-time payments as an excuse to confiscate the treasure. Jewish media commentators never address these assertions Fischer made, so as to falsify them and prove Jewish innocence in the matter.
One must wonder if the right by “holy” writ to wink at chicanery and criminal collusion isn’t what finally metastasized into the criminal collusion that we now see on Wall Street and around the world.
It’s the broken window effect. You sanction behaving less than honestly with the goyim and from there it’s easy to rationalize the wholesale theft from entire countries. Look at Russia. It’s not that they’re smart that 8 out of 9 of the oligarchs are Jewish. It’s because their moral ” code doesn’t restrain them to the degree an orthodox Russian’s or even a Muslim’s does. Take away an honest moral code from a person and he’s just a deed away from becoming a criminal.
Remember Michael Milkin and Ivan Boesky? Jewish writers tried to excuse their crimes by claiming they were locked out by WASP traders and, so, felt compelled to prove they could “play with the big boys” by stealing.
Yeah, you know why Madoff was the only scumbag on Wall St. to get bit by the media? The media slayed him because he shit on his own tribe. There were/are hundreds or maybe thousands of despicable thieves on Wall St. who sold bad paper to pension funds while shorting those same funds, and those guys got bonuses because they cheated gentiles. They’re above the law. I will forever hate Obama for not doing what needed to be done, because he wouldn’t/couldn’t prosecute the people who put him into office.
@Whites Unite:
Indeed. But the Jews had got the power over these people from the very hands of the Romanovs and the Habsuburgs. And Indeed the ferocity of the WWI sprung exactly from this. This is a serious but usually overlooked issue – some even decry the dissolution of those Empires – overlooking that the Emperors used the jews to do the dirtiest jobs against the occupied peoples, peoples the Emperors wanted to destroy.
Like the famed pogrom in 1905 in Chisinev. How many jews died? None. How many Romanians? Few hundreds killed by the Russians army and police. For whom Britain and France intervened? For the poor jew of course. What a disgrace. Now the scholars are searching how serious were the jewish complaints. Still nothing about the gentiles killed.
When the jews wanted to exploit only for their benefits, the emperors died in revolutions and someone starts to talk about backstabbing.
This is the jewish morality and the outcome for the gentiles embracing it – the Romanovs being a premier example.
To cite Prof. McDonald, they should be left to dwell alone – or at least no gentile should be doing business or have any kind of contact with a jew or a gypsy. No contact with them and they will not be able to steal, cheat or lie. They would be powerless.
@Adeimantus:
Bobby Fischer renounced Judaism and converted to Christianity. As an apostate Jew, he became a target for the chosen. That led Fischer to become an “anti-Semite”, like Benjamin Freedman, because he chose to speak the truth about the tribe.
@Felix: “It’s not that they’re smart that 8 out of 9 of the oligarchs are Jewish. It’s because their moral ” code doesn’t restrain them to the degree an orthodox Russian’s or even a Muslim’s does.”
In this case, it had nothing to do with a moral code. It had everything to do with a fellow tribesmen ponying up the cash so that the fire sale of Russian assets could be fixed.
Jews are highly intelligent, but with far too many of them it is a vitiated intelligence.
@Curmudgeon: It had to do with, more precisely, a lack of a moral code or, if you will, a highly attenuated one.
When you believe you’re “the chosen” above all creatures in the universe, everyone else and everyone else’s needs, consequently becomes secondary. There’s nothing in this kind of code of “ethics” to restrain one from robbing old women and orphans.
I actually had a Jew tell me to my face that he thought Jews should rule other people. I said all are children of God but he said the rest are to come under the Jews, with Jews between them and God. I couldn’t believe it. I could see that this person had learned nothing from Western thinking. He was not at all a high-ranking Jew, and quite the contrary. So this along with ethical differences clearly makes our clash with them fundamental, not just a matter of difference of opinion but of some basic values and viewpoints. Sometimes I think Asians have values more like ours than they do.
Good for you Felix. I have always thought that Jews were just another version of Gypsies. Only difference is intelligence, average IQ of 70 vs average IQ of 95 for Sephardi and 105 more or less for Khazars. Both parasites and predators all for one and one for all agains the rest of the world.
Christianity held that all men were equal, and that the reward for obeying God came in an afterlife. Judaism looked forward to the establishment of an earthly kingdom where the world would be ruled by Jews.
Secular Western culture, subscribed to by the white elites, insists that we have a categorical duty to behave morally toward everyone on the planet, and that there is no afterlife. So by doing ourselves in without a self interested reason (going to heaven) we can be more moral than traditional Christians. Jews encourage others in the Puritan style of thinking that holds pure morality to be an end in itself.
But how much do Jewish ethics have to do with the behavior of Jews? Haven’t they just adopted a religion and ethical system that matches their mentality in the first place? And don’t we see what we would call “Jewish behavior” from Jews who never went to Temple or whatever they do? The most fundamental issue is a set of biological traits they possess, which cannot be altered by mere culture.
@Jason Speaks:
I am not sure we can ever discern the relative power of nature vs. nurture, but this article does a great job of exposing the rules Jews live by. We must spread the word that we are different, very different.
The fact is, Jews are never going to stop unless Whites become absolutely hard and cold-blooded. Whites need to become impervious to jewish screeching, jewish rhetoric, and tall tales of jewish suffering. We need to put their race under the whip and never, ever let them go free again, because they are hellbent on enslaving the entire world. We need to deny them all rights wherever possible and generally speaking, make life impossible for them (as they have for us).
I don’t believe it’s possible to go too far with them, because they themselves are complete sociopaths. When the Soviets invaded Estonia, Jewish doctors and dentists became torturers and executioners practically overnight, as if someone flipped a switch with them. This is what so many Whites don’t understand: your jewish accountant or dentist, no matter how friendly he is to you, will cut your throat (and those of your children) in the middle of the night if he felt he needed to. He wouldn’t think twice about it.
Think this is hyperbole? Look at the movies jews make in hollywood, of people getting tortured and murdered for the sake of entertainment. Look at how they mutilate the genitalia of their babies on the eighth day. Look at what they did to millions in Russia and Ukraine, then later in Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Hungary and a dozen other places. Look at what they do to Palestinians and Ukrainian sex slaves. The jew is the torturer of humanity, and he greatly enjoys this role. It’s in the jew’s blood to cause pain to those around him.
Jews’ particularistic ethics are only a problem because White elites are now totally universalistic, but not motivated by Christian prudence. (A believer in the afterlife thinks it prudent to be totally universalistic.)
Whites seem to me to espouse a kind of Kantian virtue, one where there is no reward in this world or the next for being universalistic. White secularists think the traditional Christians are less moral because Christianity posits a reward for behaving ethically. I think White elites know that they are doing their own people in in the name of pure (unrewarded) morality, and they’re proud of that because it demonstrates that they have transcended particularism.
@Rerevisionist:
The jew who killed or trafficked Natalee Holloway was luring girls from Asia.
Also with regards to Bobby Fischer, his mom was goy, yes?
@Dane Wise:
Leona Rubinstein Helmsley went to jail.
Just to remind people of where a lot of Western universalism and egalitarianism originated:
http://christianitydebunked.wordpress.com/christianity-is-radical/
For many of the comments, I felt like they had not read Dr. MacDonald’s superb books, and / or did not know much about evolutionary psychology. It is important to understand that social-strategy tendencies in gene-pool populations are genetic, and feed-back into even greater genetic selection for those patterns. Laws and mores reflect underlying genetics. That is why Jews erupt into virtually the same types of behaviors in every country they enter — even though they adopt different surface features like what particular language they use or how they dress. Their laws reflect how they already feel — it is written in their behaviors across their history, then it gets written down too. Gypsies and other diaspora groups adopt similar strategies because that is what defines them and what they do and how they operate as a sort of “hunter-gatherer” of stationary civilizations and their wealth. Civilizations are their prey, their bush from which to pick their fruits. All the wealth of the world is theirs for the taking. Theirs is a morality of hunters. Camoflage, Kill, reap, but avoid the defenses. That’s why Goyim are classed as animals. What they really want is to domesticate US as their permanent slaves for bodily and Earthly desires. The strategies of different gene-pools are like trajectories through time and space — going somewhere, will logically lead to an end-point. The European one is MUCH different than the road the diaspora peoples follow. All flows from that. Part of the problem is that we don’t look at the slow processes of evolution over time, and how niches with “riches” become selectors and forces in evolution. Jews, Gypsies, and even some non-jews and non-Gypsies fall into these patterns. The genetics and the resulting behaviors are the thing. Like Dr. Martin Luther King said — judge people by the “content of their character” . I have to agree (lol). We as Europeans have to work hard to keep these other patterns from overwhelming ours — and so we have mores, religion, and laws to do this and reduce or remove those genes with those tendencies from our midst — like an immune system removes those cells (and viruses) from our midst not sharing our collective strategy. Our becoming aware of evolution, our sciences, even our computers may very well have been invented as a part of this strategy of OURS — to break out of these mindless and dead-end patterns of blind evolution and selection. Our way of breaking out entirely is an understanding of the truths of genetics and evolution toward EUGENICS. The Jews instinctively know this means the end for their ways — the ultimate blowing of the hunters cover — and so we are their #1 mortal enemy. So is any organism that seeks objective truth and / or self-selection according to objective standards. The JEWS are why we no longer speak about or practice eugenics directly anymore — the very backbone of the next stage of our long-coming strategy, the next stage of not only humanity, but life itself in the universe as we know it. Along with Dr. MacDonald’s books, see the book “The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God” which discusses this “trajectory” idea in-depth.