We Westerners, uniquely I think, are especially prone to establishing morally-based ingroups. In his book, The Righteous Mind, Jonathan Haidt, whose work on academic societies as “tribal moral communities“ of the multicultural left, links the tendency to form moral ingroups to a hunter-gatherer past, when those who transgressed the moral standards of the group were shunned and ostracized. (I agree; see here, Discussion section).
It’s interesting that all the utopias promised by the various intellectual and political movements discussed in The Culture of Critique involved moral indictments of the West, thus in effect attempting (and succeeding) to create moral communities. In the end, these moral communities created disastrous nightmares, but much of their power derived from their ability to create moral communities.
For example, the Freudian sexual utopia that became mainstream in the 1960s promised to rid the world of neurosis and the evils of anti-Semitism, but ultimately encouraged callousness in sexual relationships, the de-emphasis on love and affection, and resulted in declines in all of the markers of family stability and functioning (e.g., dramatic increases in teenage unwed mothers). The Political radicalism that promised to rid the world of class divisions resulted in the deaths of tens of millions in the USSR and elsewhere. And now we have the multicultural utopia that has promised that all peoples and cultures will live in peace and harmony together (within Western and only Western societies).
It’s not hard to find examples of dystopic nmulticulturalism. Indeed, readers of TOO are well-acquainted with the costs of multiculturalism. But I thought that Ingrid Carlqvist’s speech “I want my country back” is a particularly great description of a Western country that has become a moral ingroup enforcing multiculturalism, while at the same time illustrating the predictably dystopic, immoral effects of multiculturalism.
In Sweden there is enforced silence on any criticism of multiculturalism in the above-ground media. Discussing the cancellation of a talk because it was sponsored by a politically incorrect newspaper, she comments, “That’s the way it works in the New Sweden, the country I call Absurdistan. The country of silence.” Violating the silence is met with moral outrage intended to produce shunning and ostracism:
The situation in Sweden is far worse than in Denmark. In Sweden NOBODY talks about immigration problems, the death of the multiculti project or the islamisation/arabisation of Europe. If you do, you will immediately be called a racist, an Islamophobe or a Nazi. That is what I have been called since I founded the Free Press Society in Sweden. My name has been dragged through the dirt in big newspapers like Sydsvenskan, Svenska Dagbladet and even my own union paper, The Journalist.
While criticizing multiculturalism in Sweden results in moral ostracism, the consequences of multiculturalism to the Swedes are a moral disaster:
In this New Sweden we have more reported rapes than any other country in the European Union, according to a study by professor Liz Kelly from England. More than 5 000 rapes or attempted rapes were reported in 2008 (last year it was more than 6 000). In 2010 another study reported that just one country in the world has more rapes than Sweden, and that is Lesotho in South Africa. For every 100 000 inhabitants Lesotho has 92 reported rapes, Sweden has 53, The United States 29, Norway 20 and Denmark 7.
In 1990 the authorities counted to 3 exclusion areas in Sweden, suburbs where mostly immigrants live, where very few have a job to go to, almost all of them live by welfare and the children don’t pass their exams. In 2002 they counted to 128 exclusion areas. In 2006 we had 156 and then they stopped counting. In some cities, like Malmo where I live, a third of all inhabitants live in an exclusion area.
We Westerners who wish to battle the current regime will not be successful unless we believe that our cause is moral. And it is. The consequences to Sweden of this onslaught are horrifying and must be seen in moral terms—as warranting moral outrage. (See also “The morality of Majority Rights and Interests.”) We must create our own moral ingroups and appeal to others in moral terms. And we should shame those who continue to carry on in silence, watching the destruction of their people and their culture and just going along with it.
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Sweden is indeed an extreme case of political correctness. One of the reasons has to do with jewish ownership of swedish media, especially the Bonnier family and their grip on numerous printed publications and TV-stations. Compared to neighbouring countries Norway and Denmark, Sweden has a rather large jewish population, and when given the opportunity the jews will thank the host nation for their hospitality by promoting mass immigration and degenerated culture.
But it looks like the Swedes have finally had it now: Swedish youths have started to literally chase unvelcome somalis out of a small rural town. And the conflict is escalating:
http://www.nationell.nu/2012/08/21/somalier-jagas-ut-ur-svensk-by-de-flyr-i-skrack/
Good article. Thank you professor.
Europeans produced the Enlightenment. They are capable of producing an ethno-nationalist movement.
They will never be able to take these nations from us. The Soviet experiment fell apart on its own. But the ethno-nationalists who created all these great economic superpowers have been ignored.
It really is a hatred, isn’t it? It is a hatred for the healthy and civilized, dating back to the Roman empire.
That’s okay, nature will get the last laugh. Nature, of course, is our God.
Mass migration = genocide.
Its not that hard. Why cant Swedes & the West get this simple 2+2 =4 reality?
China is doing this to Tibet. Cant the Swedes see the parallels?
Multicult kills host cultures.
@Norwegian: The Youth are the real hope of Western Nations. The oldest generations are too old, the boomers are, as a rule, narcissistic materialistic morons, too invested in a system so corrupt it’s surreal, and generation X might change only because of the hopeless that has now befallen Western Nations. It’s the teenagers, that have nothing to lose, that are the hope. They haven’t yet been brainwashed and tainted by the present decayed paradigms we are living under.
FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH:
I agree, unless the population of these Nordic countries agree with some immigration from Africa, Asia, or the Orient, it is rather a ridiculous idea to force it upon those people.
It is even more agregious when those peoples have nohad any active role in the subdugation of these people by way of Empire, or Colonialism.
One has to wonder, how it is that the Jew has any footing in these countries to the point they they may be directing domestic policy.
Could it have anything to do with WWII, neutrality and money?
It’s the same play book over and over again, the hapless immigrant being put upon by the enraged youth, suitably wound up by their Jewish leaders and all it does is cause racial strife and never a focuss on the Jew!
The problem is filthy lucre, a bought silence, an encouraged involvment in the caper, only at a later date to pay the price!
What the Swedes need is eduated youth, who will explain to the immigrants why their countries are destroyed and their leaders betrayers and show them the evidence pointing to the Jew.
No matter how you mix this cake, it comes out the same, all hands to the deck!
Incidentally, was it not a leader of a Hungarian “anti semitic” party who allegedly juuuust discovered he is actually Jewish?
The same play book, Jews running white organisations, pretending to be ethnically white and rabble rousing, thus causing ethnic divisions.
In the Hungarian case, his job was to blight the genuine concerns of the Hungarians, snookering them into a party of obnoxious haters!
Let’s see if the Hungarians have the common sense to deal with this character and others who would do the same.
Me thinks, they will do absolutely nothing and allow him, just as Hitler did, destroy their country, or in this case re enslave Hungary.
@Norwegian:
Norwegian: That article has the last few days been proven to be( like so often in swedish media) somewhat of a missrepresentation.
Yes there is a gang of teenagers who are harassing peope in that town. However lots of people have been harassed, not just somalis. Nothing infact points to that the crimes have an element of racism in them. Also we don’t know the ethnic makeup of this gang. It could for all we know be non white youths.
Also before the first incident happened in December a large portion of the somali population in this little town had already moved. The swedish immigration office often times try and place non western immigrants in smaller towns since it is much easier to find housing for them there. However most immigrants after a while prefer to move to an urban town and not live on the “countryside” so to speak.
What is also noteworthy is that there have only been a total of three(!) reports to the police since December. Two of which have come from the same person.
The info I have provided can be read here: http://www.friatider.se/riksmedias-bild-av-forserum-ifragasatts-av-lokaltidning
It is a swedish alternative news site which have summarized information from the local papers in that area. So it is not information from people with a particular agenda( nationalists).
@Swede:
To clarify: The big swedish newspapers and media have the last few days reported about an almost lynching attitude towards somalis in a small town. But by reading local papers and hearing what local politicians have to say it seems like the situation is not what it seems.
Unsurprising now our big media have dropped the reports about the somali situation without saying anything about the conflicting information that has been brought up. Leaving an impression that their original story was true.
YES! We have to INSIST on the moral correctness of our position! This is how we bring the doormat Christians into the fold. It is not only our right but our moral DUTY to protect and love white people, especially now that whites are clearly suffering oppression. We have to awaken the dormant self love and instinct for self preservation that all whites must have somewhere deep down. Let’s agree that it’s not “hatred” of non-whites that propels us, but simply the love and appreciation of our own worthy people. Love and caring for our own is MUCH harder to criticize. That’s why Stormfront is not generally palatable. We have to shift gears and present a positive movement that emphasizes love for whites instead of hatred for non-whites.
A lot of this is like that old punch line from the Peanuts cartoons—”we have met the enemy and he is us.”
A lot of people get their nose out of joint, whenever I mention that we have 40 million Roman Catholics from Mexico & Latin America here in the US that don’t belong here! It’s the old story how did the turtle get on top of the fence post—someone had to put it there.
If we are going to turn things around, we have to identify who is pushing immigration and their motivation.
Dr. MacDonald has done a wonderful job identifying the Jews behind immigration, but, there are “others” who need identified for us to fully understand the immigration invasion of the United States.
Last night after dinner I was sitting at a busy interesection in an upscale shopping area in an upscale area on the fringe of a major city. No matter where in the US I do this…it’s like watching the United Nations! It’s really weird when you think about it. All of thesae obvious immigrants many in mufti wandering around here in the heartland. What are they doing here? Who brought them here? Schools? Hospitals? Corporations? Churches? Chain migration? Green cards? Other work or business visas? Maybe we should start engaging immigrants, and finding out who, why and how of how they got here?
I think a lot of that went on, in a friendly way, before the immigration restrictions of the early 1920′s.
Since my earlier post it dawned on me that my great epiphany has already been tried by none other than David Duke, and for his relentless positivity he’s been vilified and labeled a white “supremacist.”
The Jews own all of the communications networks, so they control the message. Truly….antisemitism is the result of semitism. We have a long battle ahead.
Kudos for another flawless article, Professor MacDonald.
I agree, we are moral creatures who respond to moral stimuli. The Marxists have figured this out. The ironic part is that Athiests or those who do not believe in God-cannot speak of morality since morality only comes from an objective moral law giver…aka God. Chemical reactions operating on a biological level(evolution) do not follow moral or ethical paradigms. How can they? Christianity breeds European unity, bottomline.
This is something that white advocates must always keep in mind; that it is good and moral to fight for your own kind.
Just like THEY do.
Also, many people are not aware of how multi-culti is so global in terms of it being all western nations being swamped with non-whites.
I bet that it would shock people to know that even countries like Sweden are being over run with foreign dark people.
It’s good to illustrate the big picture to people in that it shows that ” there is something wrong with this picture” !
@John hearns: You are so right. Americans and Canadians and Australians can easily be duped into thinking multiculturalism makes sense for their own countries because of history, but I don’t think they understand the global scale of white race replacement. That is truly what radicalized me.
@Tom:
@Aquilax: Argh, made a mistake using the blockquote thing. Sorry.
@JustaWhiteMom:
Bruno Mégret, Jean-Marie Le Pen’s old friend in the Front National, wrote a book 20 years ago (La Flamme, The Flame) and he said in simple words what happened to western populations : their immune system was attacked and the globalists shut it off, so now any foreign element can penetrate the body without any resistance.
Of course, the “immune system” he was talking about is ethnic/racial solidarity but he couldn’t use those words.
This is how the political police in the UK are trained to deal with white dissidents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veda-JRXczs&feature=player_embedded
All over some apparently bogus charges of electoral petition fraud. Of course there’s no need to break into someone’s home over such an allegation-which was based on a newspaper story!
@JustaWhiteMom:
You are so right. Americans and Canadians and Australians can easily be duped into thinking multiculturalism makes sense for their own countries because of history, but I don’t think they understand the global scale of white race replacement. That is truly what radicalized me.
Yes , those three have land a plenty,
but England???? etc etc ?
Although many people could not point out many countries on the map. They should have pictures drawn for them with a big brown paint brush swashing out the white areas.
I just wanna comment a bit about the media situation in Sweden, and how it actually is a good thing.
Because of it’s extreme one-sidedness, they, the Swedish mass media is starting to lose ground, having almost no credibility left (especially not among the younger generations). This of course leads to the growth of alternative media here in Sweden. We have nationalistic news sites that generate more traffic than a lot of “regular” news papers. And this is a trend that just keeps growing. The mass medias tactic of shutting out every non-cultural marxist and/or liberal view and opinion is starting to backfire hard. So I rather have this situation that we do here than let’s say in Denmark where their media do report the correct ethnicity on immigration related crimes (but are still very much leftist and liberal) because that let’s their mass media to still have a firm grip on it’s people.
And Sweden is unique in whole of (western) Europe in this sense.
@Swede II:
That is very interesting indeed. There was a spot on Sun news in Canada the other day about a guy who was arrested after getting into a spat with a Muslim who was offended by his dog. The interesting thing about such center-right news coverage is that it allows discussion of ethnic conflict that results from diversity, but then will not allow discussion of the fundamental question, which is whether mass immigration is a threat to Western folkways and therefore should be stopped. I mean, what is the point talking about a spat with a Muslim over a dog but then refusing to talk about why Muslims are in Canada in the first place? If immigration continues, Canadians will eventually be unable to walk their dogs on Canadian sidewalks and that is the end of the story. So why talk about the symptoms if naming the disease is verboten?
Also, I wonder if a pan-Scandinavian Nordic consciousness is developing in your woods, or are nationalistic sentiments still pretty much focused on individual countries?
@John hearns: @Naomi Wilson: I hear ya but I’m not sure its as easy as all that. If non-whites express ethnic concerns to whites, we hear them out. I have not found the reverse to be true. Non-whites are usually, but not always, hostile to expressions of white interests. This hostility of course breeds counter-hostility. Of course, non-white sympathizers are much appreciated.
I disagree with the article. If we as Whites cannot break the shackles of morality we will forever be the slaves of the Jews who hate us, because it’s the jews who define morality to us.
As long as White peoples’ thoughts revolve around illusory things like “morals” then they will never be in touch with the vital natural forces that guide all biological beings, the forces that tell us to care for our own and crush our enemies without a second’s thought as to their feelings or interests.
Morality is what got us into this mess, and morality won’t get us out. Only by doing what is in line with nature will we be free. We’re White. Africans and Jews aren’t. That’s the only reason we need to kick these people out of our lands.
I am glad that Professor MacDonald linked his 2009 article “The Morality of Majority Rights and Interests.” It’s an excellent, well-thought-through piece with continued relevance to our problems—perhaps even to the way out of them.
One sentence and one alone in the article seems to have dated badly or has at least passed from reasonable assessment to dashed hope. It is this: “Spurred by the Obama presidency, large numbers of Whites seem to be questioning their future.” I see no grounds for thinking that the number of the questioners has grown significantly if at all; indeed, I can’t help thinking that its leveling off may be the most we can charitably assert.
If I am correct, some credit must go to the Jewish controllers of the Republican Party and their obedient, well-paid white servants. Their handing the nomination on a (badly stained, corruptly obtained) silver platter to yet another Stepford candidate, the true successor to Wendell Willkie, Gerald Ford, Bob “Viagra” Dole, and John “Killer” McCain, has almost certainly assured Obama the reelection that his stupidity, venality, sloth, anti-white racism, anti-Christian bigotry, and sheer incompetence had seemed even a year ago to irredeemably exclude him from.
@JustaWhiteMom:
Exactly, you described my point very good.
As for a pan-Scandinavian Nordic consciousness, such thing has always been deeply rooted among us and I’m sure it will get more intensified as the situation gets more extreme, and we are today seeing more and more collaboration and dialog between different political organisations. This is something that you also see throughout Europe as a whole. We do share the same boat, after all.
@fender:
If we as Whites cannot break the shackles of morality we will forever be the slaves of the Jews who hate us, because it’s the jews who define morality to us.
As long as White peoples’ thoughts revolve around illusory things like “morals” then they will never be in touch with the vital natural forces that guide all biological beings, the forces that tell us to care for our own and crush our enemies without a second’s thought as to their feelings or interests.
Jews took advantage of natural white tendencies. Jews did not create them.
It is natural and moral to take care of your own people. White people will come around when they start to get it. White people simply don’t know what is going on , but they will.
This isn’t merely rubbish; it’s contemptible rubbish. Any claim to speak for “us” and, what is both more and worse, to define and characterize morality for “us” in such a noxious way borders on the megalomania normally and rightly associated with the Tribe.
From one who makes and preaches such a doctrine, any intermittent insights into causes and effects, tonics and toxins, as helpful as they might sometimes be, give over their worth in having become integral to an outlook that would transform white people into Jews in all but name.
The surest, swiftest, and straightest path to white self-destruction is to swallow the poison that fender offers us—and by “us” I mean all white people, not just those as “hip,” “cool,” and “edgy” as he is.
@Pierre de Craon:
If I am correct, some credit must go to the Jewish controllers of the Republican Party and their obedient, well-paid white servants. Their handing the nomination on a (badly stained, corruptly obtained) silver platter to yet another Stepford candidate, the true successor to Wendell Willkie, Gerald Ford, Bob “Viagra” Dole, and John “Killer” McCain,
It’s almost comical. It’s like a contest to find the very worst candidate. It is so fake .
And people get all worked up about conventional TV politics, like as if it is real? You gotta roll the eyes.
Yeah , I would add :
Jews took advantage of natural white GOOD tendencies.
Jews did not create them.
@Pierre de Craon:
From one who makes and preaches such a doctrine, any intermittent insights into causes and effects, tonics and toxins, as helpful as they might sometimes be, give over their worth in having become integral to an outlook that would transform white people into Jews in all but name.
I am guessing that fender is just po’ed and frustrated.
I think that is very understandable.
@fender:
Nonsense.
Most of our problems have been caused by the destruction and perversion of our traditional morality. This has been accomplished by decades of propaganda and cultural manipulation. It has been a multi-pronged attack using: the mass media; both public and post-secondary education; popular culture, especially popular music and Hollywood movies; numerous well funded “social activist” groups comprising both knowing culture destroyers and “useful idiots”; and more recently the use of police power and quasi-judicial human rights kangaroo courts.
We have now had at least 2 or 3 generations of whites raised from infancy subjected to this system of mass indoctrination. Looked at in this light, the wonder of it isn’t that the situation is so bad, but rather that the situation isn’t much worse!
Your argument is self contradictory. You denounce morality as the problem, then propose what is in effect an alternate “natural” system of morality.
What we need to do is to shake off or develop cultural immunity to the propaganda and cultural degradation. We have to return to the traditional western moral systems and cultural norms that have been proven to work and have guided western culture through 2000 years of almost continually increasing cultural heights, material prosperity and security.
@JustaWhiteMom:
I haven’t watched very much of Sun News Network, here in Canada, so I am only speculating.
However, I do wonder if it might some form of “controlled opposition”. Ezra Levant is a prominent journalist with them, as is Charles Adler. It is a common tactic for jews to lead both sides of a controversy. This allows them to control the discourse, only allowing “acceptable” dissent.
@John hearns: Hope you’re right!
@Starets:
However, I do wonder if it might some form of “controlled opposition”. Ezra Levant is a prominent journalist with them, as is Charles Adler. It is a common tactic for jews to lead both sides of a controversy. This allows them to control the discourse, only allowing “acceptable” dissent.
I would say that they are somewhat sincere but as you say they are also “kosher”
Let’s just say that the Sun is not going to be doing editorials by David Duke just quite yet. haha
So you guys want to go up against the jews in the arena of dialectical babble and moral rhetoric? Yeah, good luck with that. They have 2,000 years’ worth of training in the realm of argument; we have none because it’s not in our nature to be bullsh*tters.
Every argument of yours, no matter how well-founded, will be countered with “racist,” “n*zi,” and “evil.” The jews are the gatekeepers of what is “right” and “wrong,” and they will not let you disagree. You won’t win against them with moral arguments.
Why should the survival of Whites depend on whether we are “moral” or not? Was slavery moral? Conquering North and South America? Is it even about morals, or is it about interests? Is it “right” or “wrong” or “good for us” vs “bad for us?” Personally I could care less about black slaves or the plight of the aboriginals. One group of people conquers another: this is history.
The best ally we have is nature and reality. Nature, not morality, demands that Whites protect their racial interests regardless of whether others see it as good or bad. Now, if you want to re-define morality as benefitting Whites, that’s fine…but that’s a REALLY tough goal, especially with the jews in the way.
@fender: The thing is that we can USE the morality that the Jews have created to our own advantage. Their anti-whiteness is evident in the contradictions of their own moralizing. Whites are attuned to unfairness and double standards.
That is not to say that we shouldn’t critique Jew moralizing. The fact is that Jew morality, consistently applied, means the end of white people. I don’t think it hurts to point this out to white people and ask them why they should subscribe to a morality that dooms them to oblivion.
Its not necessarily an either/or thing.
@JustaWhiteMom:
How did past peoples defeat the jews? Look at what they did, and then do that.
When Jews commit crimes, point the finger at them. Hammer the masses with facts about jewish hypocrisy in regards to race, jewish media control, and jewish financial crimes. This tribe has been at the center of every global financial calamity since the Great Depression.
What the masses need to understand is that the jews have made themselves the enemy of all peoples, but particularly Europeans. It is not that jews are evil, it’s that THEY HARM US, and they ENJOY harming us.
The NSDAP didn’t sway the masses of booze-saturated Germans to their side by argumentation, but by OUTRAGE. There needs to be ANGER at what the jews and traitorous White elites have done to every White country on earth. Without outrage, there’s no hope for us.
And I’m sorry but “nice” and “moral” people like the British, French, and Scandinavians are hopeless. They have no fire in them, no spirit, no vision. All of these peoples are finshed. Focus on the parts of Europe where’s still racial fire and you’ll have a better chance of establishing an intellectual base.
@fender:
You are missing two important issues. The first is that what is truly moral is generally not in opposition to nature or reality. I daresay from other posts you have made that you have no problem with homosexuality. I have little but pity for those few people who have little choice. However, the celebration of homosexuality is against nature and morality. It is precisely because it promotes a sterile relationships of two separate adults, each pursuing their own selfish interests, who enjoy sleeping together as the hip norm.
Feminism insists that women ignore or suppress their natural desire for a home, husband and children, in order to make them better consumers. Far too often, by the time she fights her way out of this mental harness she is infertile, too deeply in student debt, or otherwise ineligible for marriage and motherhood. That is unnatural and immoral.
The second issue is that we are not liars, as you state. That is in part because it is in our DNA to think well of ourselves. For countless generations, this was dependent fulfilling a few simple demands that life made on us. Supporting ourselves and our offspring, demonstrating some level of sexual self control, not becoming a burden on the community, helping the less fortunate. All of these have been transmutted into ‘pay your taxes and never criticize anyone else.’ The consequences of this distortion is all around us. We need our own, real, morality based in reality. The alternative is self-destruction.
@JustaWhiteMom:
good insight
That’s what truly boggles me. For years I’ve raised my concern to family members about the perils and moral decay while the Jews make inroads towards more control. As a recent example, the new Atlanta Symphony Orchestra president, Jew Stanley Romenstein, wasted no time to attack whites by banning two high school choirs for this years
Christmas concert because they weren’t diverse enough. But alas, no one could care less and even ostracize me for bringing up the issue. Too many people are conditioned by the mass media beyond all reason.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2190143/Atlanta-orchestra-Two-high-school-choirs-banned-performing-DIVERSE-enough.html
so the swedes, who protected the jews from the german death machine in ww2, and who welcomed countless jews into sweden, those same swedes are now being destroyed by jewish policies?……amazing, simply amazing!
@fender:
You are arguing a false dichotomy here.
The choice is not limited to morality on the jews’ terms or no morality whatsoever.
Traditional European morality safely shepherded European culture for over 2000 years. The jews really had minimal influence, and no point of leverage to attack society until the disasters of the 20th century (maybe 19th?) and the use of mass propaganda and indoctrination.
The ethics of Aquinas, based on and extended from those of Aristotle, are rooted in Aristotelian metaphysics. There is a strong argument to be made that it is thus based on the underlying nature of reality, and therefore a “natural” morality. (Edward Feser’s book “Aquinas” provides an excellent introduction to anyone who is interested.)
The return to nature you argue for has been tried and has led to todays’ social disaster. It is the siren call of the 1960′s, the hippy-dippy urge to “do your own thing”, and “if it feels good, it is good”. No doubt cultural memes that were implanted by YKW. The results can be seen throughout western society; unwed teen mothers, miscegenation, a culture that is toxic to our young, the Jerry Springer show writ large across western society. All “following nature”.
We have to figure out what made us strong in the past (and we were strong in the past, history shows that is so), and figure out what has made us weak in the present, and act accordingly.
@Alice Teller:
I don’t have a problem with homosexuality the way I don’t have a problem with people who have physical or mental defects. I don’t believe in glorifying homosexuality, but I also don’t believe in pointing the finger at them and calling them evil. They’re not evil, they’re just abnormal. Generally speaking I think, when dealing with gay Whites, we should ask ourselves two things: one, are they pro-White, and two, are they more loyal to their White identity or their gay identity? I see no reason to exclude White homosexuals who want to help their fellow Whites. We need to have as little division as possible.
You’re right about feminism. One added point though: women don’t just want husbands, they want dominant husbands who earn more than them and basically run the family. Feminism wasn’t just about ruining women, it was about ruining men as well.
Going back to the whole morality thing, again, I would not be opposed to a moral system where the focus is on our interests. i.e. moral and good Whites are Whites who support their race own race and attack those who do not. But we need to get rid of this universal morality, this general “good” and “evil” nonsense. Liberal Whites think they’re “good” because they’re allowing non-Whites into their lands, but it’s only good for those non-Whites. It harms their fellow Whites and even their own interests.
When I think of Ancient Rome I can’t possibly imagine Romans objecting to Julius Caesar because he oppressed non-Romans. Objections to Caesar would have been raised on the basis of whether he harmed Roman interests or not. That was what his “good” or “bad” would have been based on. Does he improve Rome or does he bring it down? If we had this mentality today we’d have nothing but contempt for virtually every American president and every Western leader apart from Napoleon and Hitler.
@fender:
The problem is not “good” and “evil” as such, but the definitions of good and evil.
Again, following from the modern propaganda onslaught, we have allowed “the Other”, outsiders foreign to our culture, to define for us good and evil.
I think a significant number of people are in fact starting to realize that what our hostile elites define as good and evil are in fact not so. We just have to start to re-frame the argument in our own terms.
@Starets:
Morality has always been the weapon of the jews. Twisting a people’s values and ethics has always been their method of waging war, along with pathological lying.
The insanity of the 60s was anything but a return to nature. Nature demands that beings improve themselves, not revert to nihilistic barbarism, which is what happened in the 60s. Like everything else, the jews distorted and lied. They defined nature in such a way that harmed Whites. Just like how they take a good thing- the theory of evolution- and turn it into BS like you find in Gould’s writings.
What made us strong in the past (Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, and NS Germany) was adherence to aristocratic values: the joy of increasing strength and an appreciation of beauty. True we had some in Christian Europe in the 17th and 18th Centuries, but it wasn’t strong enough to prevent the coming catastrophes in the following centuries. We need to value our own race and not care what those outside of our race think of us.
@Naomi Wilson:
(My comment here is for anyone who reads it.)
The media (and schools and maybe other things, too) have succeeded in brainwashing most (?) people to believe that pro-White people are “ignorant” “hateful” “racist” “nazis”.
(I think much, maybe all, of this brainwashing can be undone.)
Perspective is important. Maybe we could adjust the camera angle and the lighting.
Maybe within the larger pro-White movement there could be a group of pro-White “hippies”, with blissful smiles and happy-colored clothes and positive pro-White phrases/signs. They could even have flowers in their hair.
Maybe not. I don’t know.
My point is that the pro-White movement could do many things to help change its image and make people question the stereotypes of what it means to be pro-White.
Thanks to Dr. MacDonald (and everyone else) for helping White people in a big way.
@fender:
Universal values work just fine in a society which really observes them. The only universal value we follow now is ‘thou shalt not hurt the feelings of a designated victim’. This is our highest public good. We do not demand reciprocity for instance. As Orwell predicted, All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others.
If we want a genuine meritocracy, let everyone have at it and the only measure will be accomplishment, real world accomplishments. We now define accomplishments as pleasing the right people and getting into the right schools who will award the right credentials. That is a corruption of morality.
The feminist movement has gone from ‘a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle’ to the head of NOW announcing that women need government to force others to pay for her reproductive choices.
Tolerance has moved from live and let live to no coverage for infertility treatments but the transgendered have a right to be mutilated in accord with their metal disorder. This is neither natural nor moral.
Getting a clear head on these issues will help our people far more than either of your heroes did.
@fender: I agree with you about gays. Gays have a short term conflict of interest with racialist whites. Racialist whites have an interest in a pronatalist culture, while gays have an interest in an antinatalist culture. In the long term, of course, our interests coalesce, and if gays want to work for a healthy white society so be it.
@Steve:
My first response is to point out that by that standard the Harlem Boys Choir should be banned from performing. We can and must, at the very least, demand equality.
@Richard:
I want to add something to my previous comment, which is in moderation because I used the word “n*zis”.
(I don’t mind the moderation system, especially if it serves its purpose.)
When I use the word “people”, I’m mostly referring to White people, getting them to question the Hollywood version of a pro-White person, which is often an unattractive, angry, violent, tattooed, shaved-head person.
(Not that those qualities are necessarily bad.)
I had a thought just now, and I hope it’s worth sharing because I’m about to share it.
Has anyone seen the videos on the Church of Scientology’s YouTube channel?
They feature normal-looking people who state who they are and what they do for a living, etc. And at the end (?) of the clips, they say something like, “I’m Bill Smith, and I’m a Scientologist.”
The point of the commercials is to let viewers know that Scientologists are just like the rest of us; they come in all colors and have normal jobs and normal families, etc.
Maybe we could have a similar campaign for pro-White people. It could be done using very little money. (YouTube is free.)
At the end of each one or two-minute commercial, the individual says something like, “I’m Bill Smith, and I love White people.” Or maybe something edgier. “I’m Bill Smith, and I’m a racist”.
If we could have even just a dozen short clips featuring normal White people using their real names and being proud to be pro-White, that could really make some waves and connect with brainwashed White people on a deep level.
@Alice Teller:
Exactly. Use their own techniques against them. Fight fire with fire. I did exactly that last year and called Fedex to complain about the anti-white commercials. I allowed them to record my complaint, and provided Fedex with my address and home number. In the complaint I also explained in detail which commercials I contended . Two days later, all Fedex commercials were removed from television for months on end. I gave myself credit for that one. It does pay at times to raise your voice and be heard.
@Richard:
One more quick clarification regarding something I wrote in my previous comment.
Maybe I was thinking of the Mormon commercials.
Both the Mormon Church and the Church of Scientology have official YouTube channels with many clips featuring normal-looking people/families.
@fender:
Hi Fender
You wrote:
In the past you said that you are neutral on the issue of homosexuality. (I’m paraphrasing, but I think you did use the word “neutral.”)
And that seems disingenuous to me.
I think homosexual attraction / behavior / relationships are seriously messed up. And there are probably serious physical/mental/social consequences for the individuals involved and for those around them (society).
(To be fair: I think a lot of things that heterosexual couples do in the bedroom are messed up, too.)
Regarding the use of the word “evil”:
Do you believe evil exists?
Your previous comments over the past months leave me with the impression that you probably don’t. And if you don’t, I’m not saying that that’s necessarily bad. I’m not sure I have the answers. I haven’t given it much thought.
But I’m curious if you believe evil even exists.
You don’t have to answer. My question might be too personal or inappropriate or something.
@Richard – That is a good idea. I immediately thought of those free animation software web programs that are popular nowadays (ex: goanimate.com) since it may be hard to find people that will use their real identities right away.
Someone could write out several similar scripts, some for men, some for women, and storyboard how the videos could be sequenced and put together.
@fender: Those were times when we could trust the aristocracy, or let’s just call it the “elite”. The problem as everyone knows is that we currently have a “hostile elite”. The goal is to persuade the elite that there is something to gain by having a more ethno-nationalist government.
“We Westerners, uniquely I think, are especially prone to establishing morally-based ingroups.”
The problem White multiculturalists have, I think, is they cannot see those of other ethnicities are not similarly motivated. The loyalties of other ethnicities are more oriented toward their ethnic group, kinship group, etc. They are interested in what White multiculturalists have to offer them, but they are not going to sacrifice their own genetic loyalties for such a project. White multiculturalists, despite their claim to multicultural insight, have a hard time acknowledging and accepting this. In effect they reject the very multiculturalism they claim to champion.
@Robin:
Hi Robin
There are lots of people who are already open about their pro-White views, using their real names. Some even make videos. Julian Lee, who happens to be a regular T.O.O. commenter, comes to mind.
I think we could get a dozen (or maybe many more) to participate in some kind of pro-White commercial campaign, especially if the people are saying something positive like, “My name is Bill Smith, and I’m a White person who loves White people.”
Most people know that is a pro-White “racist” statement, but they would have a hard time criticizing it since it is a positive, loving statement. It doesn’t express hatred toward anyone.
I’ve never heard of that program, but animation sounds like a huge area that we haven’t really explored.
Sure, why not give it a try? I don’t see it as an either/or situation. We can do “my” idea (it’s not really mine since I’m just copying the Mormons/Scientologists) and your idea, too.
I didn’t even think about animation, but it seems like there is a lot that could be done in that area. So many possibilities. So much potential.
We could be doing so many things to help White people.
Anyway, thanks for responding.
“We Swedes live in a so infinitely happier situation. The population in our country is homogeneous, not just according to race but also in many other aspects.” — Tage Erlander, Swedish Prime Minister, 1965
Little can be added to that statement in terms of the foundational necessity for a properly functioning, psychologically healthy nation.
Multiculturalism, or more precisely multiracialism, introduces a host of pathologies into a nation. The dramatic increase in rapes of Western women by non-white immigrants is one such instance. The formation of no-go zones for whites within their own countries is another.
I see no morality in multiracial societies. Only conflict. I see nothing moral about a white woman on the arm of an African.
Morality is a culturally derived system of beliefs, principles, and judgments based on religious and philosophical concepts. These concepts are generalized and typically codified in order to regulate behavior.
The primary purpose of morality is to ensure the well being and survival of a society and its members.
Incest, pedophilia, and miscegenation have been considered immoral in the U.S. for centuries. If these behaviors were engaged in by large numbers of people and followed to their logical conclusion society would eventually cease to exist. Therefore, laws were written to prevent these behaviors in order ensure the well being and survival of our society.
What effect does massive Third World immigration have on our society? Should we consider this a moral thing? Of course the Left would have us believe that these immigrants have a beneficial effect on society — “diversity is our strength” and so on. Common sense and direct observation speak otherwise.
Preserving one’s race through homogenous nations with well defined borders is highly moral. I recommend it for all nations.
Speaking of Multiculturalism and Nationalism, there is apparently some speculation on a very interesting topic:
Were the Israelis really Slaves in Egypt?
I find this speculation fascinating (because it is based in fact and logic, as opposed to Lizard People stuff). Apparently one scholar (he could be Jewish, I don’t know) says the Jews were not slaves in Egypt, and others agree. Many Jews were apparently mercenaries who were supposed to defend Egypt, but if you read between the lines, apparently the ruler of Egypt did not feel he could trust them (sound familiar?).
They were a nation living within a nation, whose loyalties were in question (sound familiar?). In just the last century, we saw many American Jews put loyalty to the Soviet Union first, and then later, they put Israel first. Seems to be a recurring theme throughout their history that everyone here is well aware of, but this Egyptian angle is new to me. Here is a link:
http://www.wheatandtares.org/2011/04/18/claim-ancient-israelites-were-not-slaves-to-egyptians/
@Pierre de Craon:
McCain gets it from Jeff Gates, author of Guilt by Association, essentially a chronicle on the Jewish crime network. Schadenfreude to perk up flagging spirits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LYhmc2VD-0
@Trenchant:
Thanks…led me to this interesting speak by Gates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZoTccmMWyY
@fender: This might be the way out of your blue funk. At least the kids get to be winners.
http://www.jdate.com/
@Mickey Meadows: John McCain, hero, Senator, son of John McCain, patriot, Admiral. Apple didn’t land far from tree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VYNWAqn7o
Notice the historic pattern involved in these situations. Caucasians have control of their countries through their governmental officials who are then approached by the cultural Marxists and sold a bill of goods about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, and so on. Having given no thought to the eventual problems of multiracial societies and how they must end according to Gause’s Law, they are unable to provide a moral defense for homogenous societies and give in to the multicultural nonsense supposing themselves to have taken the moral position.
Christianity is often scapegoated in all this as if Christianity requires this inclusion and diversity by its practioners
practitioners. This is a falsehood. True Christianity as practiced by the founding fathers of this nation and correctly understood says nothing of allowing your country to be taken over by racial aliens for God Himself established the differences among peoples and nations and set them apart by divine providence.
Forged in the furnace of trial and error, the founders were well acquainted with the racial differences among people and acted accordingly. Even to the point of ethnic differences.
Christianity as practiced today would be unrecognizable to the founders.
I typically post comments at a single website and have done so for years. The topic of the rightness or wrongness of miscegenation came up. I was stunned at how nobody could provide a reasonable and moral argument against it. Some felt it was wrong. Some had a gut feeling that it was wrong. But nobody seemed to know WHY it is wrong.
Such is the state of our current condition.
I did not see anywhere in Carlqvist’s article that 4 letter word “JEWS”.
That is the problem with self-styled nationalists of all races.
The Jew is the problem. Everything else is ‘whistling Dixie’ (Owtlaw Josey Wales).
White Nationalists need to read and digest the superjew Marcus Eli Ravage in his The Teal Case Against The Jews.
The Jews have no power over me. Who gave them any influence at all in Western nations? That would be Westerners through ignorance and/or greed. I hold them more accountable for these things.
Kevin and others have done a remarkable job at detailing how Jews have plied their influence in various ways and through various means. That should be acknowledged. People should be aware of it but non-Jewish white people must hold our own race traitors’ feet to the fire.
A final word on this, any idea or philosophy put forth by Jew or non-Jew should stand or fall on its merits. That so many of our leaders have instantly agreed with incorrectly formulated Jewish ideas on morality is disgusting.
I don’t give Jews the kind of all encompassing power of mind and will that some here do. Anyway, those are my current opinions.
@Athling:
We must look farther for responsibility – to ourselves. I am reminded of the old saw that only a greedy person is duped by a scam artist. The truth is that the good life and freedom require a people who are willing to struggle for it. We all want to find the single enemy who we can lay hands on and eject from our midst. That will help, but we must rebuild in our own culture tiresome old concepts such as loyalty, discernment, discipline, sacrifice, courage, integrity on and on……
We all want to claim cheap virtue from diet soda to safe sex to imagining that we are truly serving the poor because we are forced to pay taxes. This is not merely a Christian concept. We have known since Virgil’s day that “facilis descensus Averno (It is easy to go to hell)”. The sad truth is that few of us want to face these facts much less correct them.
@Trenchant: Laugh-out-loud funny pictures.
I am reminded of some words of popular wisdom, words evidently taken to heart by all the boys and girls in these pictures, from a calypso-influenced song of the late fifties recorded by Harry Belafonte:
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
On second thought and having taken another look at the pictures, maybe these kids are living the dream just a bit too much.
@Trenchant: Apropos Gates, you probably know that the book you mention was positively reviewed here back in 2009 by Edmund Connelly. He links to an equally timely and relevant article by KM from a year earlier, when some readers and commenters of today were probably still in nappies.
@Alice Teller: The first sentence of your second paragraph is as compendious an analytic summary of the successful program of the Jewish/atheist Left as I have ever seen. I shall be shamelessly quoting it (probably without attribution) for the foreseeable future.
Unlike the felix and pius Aeneas, others who make the easy descent do so sans his option to return. Odd that they haven’t figured that out after all this time.
@Pierre de Craon:
Who says Yankees can’t sweet talk? I am honored, Sir.
Readers might recall the Bishop Richard Williamson scandal a few years back. He granted an interview to a Swedish documentary maker in Germany where he denied the existence of gas chambers during WWII. I do not speak Swedish but with some English and German I was able to follow the entire documentary on line. It was an extraordinary to see the PC agenda which underpinned the entire production. Truly frightening.
You are a wise woman Alice. A thoughtful and measured response is a true mark of intelligence.
@Alice Teller: Thank Alice. I don’t remember how many times I’ve made this point on various blogs. You can’t hire illegal aliens to do your painting, lawn, pool cleaning, tree trimming,……….etc.etc. and complain at the same time how illegal aliens are overrunning our social services, and commiting document fraud and all the rest. But this is the contemporary American mindset. “It’s not my fault, I didn’t take part, let me look around and see if I can blame someone else.” It’s fantasy, it’s self-deception, and it’s not serving American citizens in any positive way.
@Alice Teller: P.S.
The reason I used the illegal alien issue in my above post, is because it’s one of the glaring examples of the hypocrisy of millions of Americans. I’ll complain about people in the nation illegally, but not those who I can exploit,etc. In this way, those who knowingly skirt the law for their own benefit are not one bit different from the greedy elite that want open borders, regardless of what that implies, (lawlessness, culture shock, displacement, environmental ruin, social services ruined,etc.) The duplicity and hypocrisy of many American citizens knows no bounds. It literally sickens me.
@Athling: @Bobby:
Thanks. I don’t think of it as hypocrisy as much as I do tunnel vision. It is everywhere we look from people shopping at Walmart and complaining about the loss of American jobs to the woman who can’t be civil enough to her ex-husband to allow her children a little peace of mind but is convinced she is morally superior because she just loves all her gay friends.
KM is completely right in pointing to the necessity of passionate moral rightness. Fender – who I see as a good thinker and potentially great communicator – complained that morality is what got us here in the first place, before then prescribing approaches that were intensely – if implicitly – moral.
We need some pragmatic intellectual compartmentalization here. On the one level – if you like academic – it is in our nature to analyze the nature of successful group characteristics such as in-group moral intensity. But thinking on such levels do not help us in the actual struggle itself because they are necessarily open minded, skeptically driven, and highly receptive to criticism.
Which is no good.
So there needs to be another level, fairly independent of that higher intellectual level, wherein we immerse ourselves in the traits – the very best traits – of successful groups, and we exhibit those traits to our very best advantage.
Moral intensity, moral right, in the lower level form of group immersion, is the unshakeable belief in a moral right to prevail at all costs, and as a source of infinite energy to make it so.
@Athling:
Alice is a darling
@Mickey Meadows:
My point is that the leaders of any WN movement will necessarily have to see morality as a man-made illusion, and therefore tailor morality to fit WN needs, and not try to connect morality to facts or objective reality. Yes, the masses need objective good and evil, but the leaders don’t.
@fender:
“and not try to connect morality to facts or objective reality. ”
I meant universal morality.
@fender:
fender – with you I intuit we’re on the same page, so mostly the differences are about nailing down language.
It’s true that the extreme repression in Sweden has helped alternative Internet news sites grow. Some of them even occasionally publish articles in English. One good example is Fria Tider who recently published a series of articles on the Assange case:
http://www.friatider.se/swedish-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-explains-why-assange-is-not-questioned-in-london-you-do-not-dictate-the-terms-if-you-are-a-suspect-get-it
http://www.friatider.se/swedish-prosecutor-assange-must-come-to-sweden-but-we-wont-say-why
http://www.friatider.se/swedens-minister-of-social-affairs-calls-assange-a-coward-and-a-pitiful-wretch
http://www.friatider.se/the-swedish-media-war-on-assange
@Alice Teller:
The issue of morals is a red herring. The only losers who went without morals were the Nazis and that idiot Hitler and look at the damage those fools caused the White race. Stalin and his commie buddies weren’t far behind.
Just take a look at the American Nazis and Ayran nation types. Criminals, tattooed low lives and losers. White trash. Nobody takes them seriously. That’s what where no morals, no brains and no self-respect will get you.
BTW the only other people promoting the non-sense that morals limit people are cultural Marxists in our universities
So be careful with those who promote either moral relativism or amorality. You are dealing with dangerous people.
Look up until the Kennedy sponsored Immigration act of 1965, every thing was fine. When Chappaquidick Ted rammed his act through it opened the flood gates.
The reason people didn’t fight back then, is a matter of perception. Most change didn’t become noticeable until decades later. Think of frog in a pot of water, he doesn’t realize its getting too hot until it’s almost too late. Don’t forget during this time, the Leftist controlled MSM and Hollywood pumped out lots of agit prop to keep Whites from thinking about what was happening.
He who controls immigration policy and welfare controls the fate of the country. The Democrats and Jews understand that. WN’s apparently do not.
BTW on illegal aliens, 70% of the people want them out and strong border controls. If people want blame look at the cheap labor loving businessmen and Democrats(for a multitude of reasons, including ethnic cleansing of Whites). Don’t blame ordinary Whites. The GOP politicos too often renege on promises of reforming immigration policy.
@fender:
Ahh a Bernays/Goebbel’s man. Lie to the people, cheat the people, do as you please.
Wunderbar Herr Fender.
@Alice Teller:
I noticed that Pierre gave you a compliment on your August 26 2:37pm comment.
And it impressed me, too.
If you haven’t already considered making your own blog, it seems like something you might want to think about.
You don’t have to tell me or others if you already have a blog or not. I’m not trying to put you on the spot. I’m just saying that a lot of people seem to think your comments are valuable.
It’s free and relatively simple to set up an attractive blog. Blogger and WordPress seem to be the two most popular blog host sites.
Anyway, I thought I’d put that idea out there in case you haven’t considered it.
I’m thinking about starting a new blog — just to get some of my thoughts out.
Have a good week, to you and anyone else reading this.
@Richard:
What happened to your blog…I went there but it was gone. Or did I get the url wrong? From memory I thought it was RichardLovesWhitePeople.blogspot.com
The most interesting part of this thread which sadly got bogged down into predictable and scrollable reiterations of the morality debate, was the snippets of ‘on the ground’ information from folks in Sweden.
Sweden, which has gone further down the destructive path of multi-culturalism than any of the rest of us, could be a bellweather of increasing resistance. My not-very-informed impression is that the political correctness has lost its virility. Sure, they still have the old emotional patterns which have been driven in with a jackhammer since birth, but they seem to defend their ‘open’ societies more out of habit and fear than true conviction.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next 10-15 years witnesses the washing away of multiculturalist morality among the masses (not the elite, of course) with the same grassroots passion that the 60s kids went about overthrowing the old, conservative order. Of course it will manifest itself very differently — but I have in mind the same sweeping transformation of a society.
Eras change and the ideas that the baby-boomers were able to get to their hefty pension checks with won’t fly with a generation facing stiff competition for increasingly scarce resources, a decade or more of economic stagnation + the slow bankruptcy of their countries.
Thanks to Swede and Swede II for a snapshot of what’s going on over there. I would love to hear more. Question to you folks:
Is the alternate media that was mentioned gaining a certain chic among young people, sort of along the lines of ‘fair trade/local/indy’ and all that stuff in the States? Is it starting to be cool to be a little more ‘edgy’ about things connected with identity/immigration? Are there signs of a more renegade, underground intellectual cafe/online/underground culture springing up, which perhaps, while not explicitly nationalist, is more willing to push the envelope a bit? All things I am very curious about…
Letter from Sweden
When you look at Swedish political history in the 1920-1940 you see that Swedish policy in the area of “integration and immigration” was cultural nationalism was combined with ethnic separatism. The minorities was supposed to culturally and religiously assimilate but it was not clear if the society wanted them to genetically blend in by interethnic marriage. Though, many actually did assimilate and that is very significant for the Sámi people that today at least have ethnic Swedish phenotypes.
In the 1940s Sweden was the closed neutral country for Jews fleeing from Nazism. At the end of the war there were more than 6000 Jews living in Sweden. Short after the war this small but vocal group needed schools. In the end of the 1940 and in the beginning of 1950 Sweden adopted new policies as full freedom of religion, abolishment of the eugenics institutes (which still remain in Uppsala but under a different name and ideology) and abolishment of laws regulating immigration policy on the basis of race. These opened the door for Romani people – which later come in significant numbers from Finland.
Because of the number of Jews living in Sweden they demanded a school. A Jewish school that took the name Hillel School was founded in 1953 and it was the first of its kind. It was not non-controversial at the time. Famous socialist career-politician and sociologist Alva Myrdal (1902-1986) argued against this step. There had been alien schools before in the Swedish School system but those were created for foreign children that were in Sweden temporary. Myrdal was afraid that such schools would lead to balkanization and the impossibility of assimilation of minority groups. Of course she was right. After the opening of the Hillel school in 1953 Sweden saw more and more new policies and a change in attitude among politicians.
In the end of 1960 Sweden open her borders for a larger number of European work-force immigrants for Swedish factories that sought cheap skilled labor. These came from Greece, Yugoslavia, Finland and Spain. Swedish politicians understood that there would be friction between ethnic Swedes and immigrants and a policy of separation was issued. These immigrants were to be placed in ethnic enclaves. Of course crime was going up and Swedish workers were afraid of seeing their wages dumped.
In the 1968 Sweden took it second steps towards multiculturalism by introduce “home language” as a part of the welfare services. The idea was to help immigrants keep their language and cultural heritage. The elites sold this idea to the people by saying that the immigrants were just here temporarily and would leave when they earned enough money to return home. Of course very few of these immigrants ever returned home. These southern European and Finnish immigrants are still not fully assimilated almost fifty years later.
In the 1950 there had been fifty Muslims and in the 1970 they were thousands of them. The assimilation into “civilized” socialism of the Romani people had also failed which can be when you look through the extensive reports written to the socialist government. Even though they could see no argument for multiculturalism or for assimilation – multiculturalism was introduced in 1975.
In the middle of the 1980s the reality of these failed polices had caught up with the Swedish elite class. It was the socialists and their affiliated unions that saw that something needed to be done but it had to be done silently. There were broad coalitions of all political parties that supported the Lucia Agreement. It would close the borders for all immigrants except people protected by the Genève convention. Only the liberals were against it under Bengt Westerberg.
Short before the 1991 election a new party was introduced. It was called “New Democracy” and was headed by a conservative count, a fellow with the King and a president of a Record Company. They were both well founded and both held conservative ideals and partly xenophobic ideals. They were elected to the Swedish Parliament. Because of them entering in the Swedish national politics and the Conservatives could not gather enough votes. The Conservative Party was forced to cut a deal with the Liberals and the Lucia Agreement was never realized.
Parts of the conservative and (classical) liberal media had helped the New Democracy to office by highlighting them. There had also been a large wave of refugees from Yugoslavia from 1991 well into the late 1990s and Swedes was scared. Now the large media corporation wanted them out. Journalists and editors that were not up to date with this new policy were fired.
One of the more famous cases was the firing of the editorial head of second largest Bonnier owned newspaper Expressen. He was fired in 1993 after he published a front headline supportive the people’s sentiment towards immigration. All journalists were faced with the alternative of keep quite or leave their jobs. No real discussion about immigration was allowed. In the election of 1994 the New Democracy left the Parliament and this new policy of silence went into effect.
So were did all these hundreds of thousands immigrant go? Well, they all went to the public housing program built in largest cities between years 1960-1980. In the same time the unions and the socialist did not want all these people seeking work. That would put pressure on the working class so they put up strict working laws for immigrants forcing them to live on back of the welfare state. These public housing areas was turned from working class areas into ethnic ghettoes.
Instead of addressing the issue of immigration after 1994 election the elites turned to new projects. One of these was western feminism. The Liberals did their worst election in history in 1998. People were fed up with their globalization polices. Something had to be done. In the end of 1999 it was discovered by social workers and social scientists that all these immigrants did not apply to these new exciting liberal standards.
The liberals had now their chance to gain more support. They engaged in a discussion about the Islamic veil and these oppressed non-white women (mostly Muslim) was the center of the political discussion. The discussion became more Islamophobic and then come 9/11.
Now were all eyes on the Islamic community. In 2002 one of these more famous oppressed young women was murdered by her family and she had a state funeral in the Swedish Church, though she was a Muslim. Just before the election of 2002 the Liberals introduced a “language test” for immigrants that wanted to receive a citizenship and they opened a debate with the Swedish Democrats – which after the election of 2002 became the largest party outside the parliament. It was all for show.
In the same time the Social Democrats (Socialists) understood that they could gain a lot of support from the immigrant community by joining hands with them. The most radical post-colonists and professionals with interest in identity politics gathered in the Social Democrats.
The Minister of Integration Mona Sahlin tried to sell “structural discrimination” as the only cause of the immigrant unemployment through a series of state founded reports that by law should not be controlled by politicians. One of her reasons was just “plain” ideology but another part of her wanted to tell the people that it was not the socialist policies that had created all these unemployed immigrant but the “racists ethnic Swedes”.
Of course it was a scandal from the beginning to the end. Sahlin fired the first Uppsala professor because he did not get the results she wanted. She replaced him with a radical professor (with Iranian background) and the topic was changed to “What to do about structural discrimination?” instead of the former “Does structural discrimination exist?”
The report came out in 2005 just before the election of 2006. The report accused media, Zionists, liberals and I guess the entire white and Judeo-Christian establishment for “racism”. The professor and his work group even named people they accused of racism and used words like “House negroes” of non-white liberal careerists not sharing their post-colonial politics.
Another of example of the controversial report was the notion that one way of redeem our “white skin” was too support Palestine instead of Israel.
This was of course not going to fly among the Swedish political or media establishment that is heavily Zionist. The professor and Mona Sahlin was promoted and put out from lights. The Social Democrats lost the 2006 election heavily to the new formed alliance consisting all of the four bourgeois parties. Of course the liberals lost much of what they gain in the 2002 election. They had not even raised the idea of “language tests” in the parliament. Votes understood it was all for show.
After the 2006 election the liberals understood that they cannot play “hardball” and still have the support of media. The liberals fired the former spokesman for immigration policy, a professor from Chile and replaced him with a soft spoken, though a bit controversial among the radical left, Burundian woman. She was not only more black then the professor but a career politician as well. So the liberals would not have the end up with her saying truth about the immigration policy as the former spokesman did. He was later kicked out from the liberal party and was abused in every way possible by the media and political establishment. He later moved to Spain to pick up a career as the headmaster of a private liberal art college.
In the 2010 election this bourgeois alliance was pretty much screwed. Yes, the left was crossed but it was only the conservatives that grow. The other three parties in the alliance lost even more support.
The Swedish Democrats gained more the 4 percent (which is the limit to enter parliament) and entered the parliament for the first time. The party was founded in 1988 and the party leaders have gone to hell and back just to sail the party to the parliament.
The first year the Swedish Democrats began a wave of politically correctness but some elites had to back down for awhile. They did not know if the Swedish Democrats would be offered a communion with the bourgeois alliance. Some of the hardest conservative’s newspaper and magazines in mainstream media did start to challenge multiculturalism from a soft conservative and libertarian perspective.
After the Breivik killings all the right in establishment had to back off. Now the “hard right” in the establishment has opinions that are more like those of Abraham Foxman or a native San Francisco teenager. You hear the most naïve arguments from adults with a PhD and professors. They would fail you at their universities for arguing in such a way but they do it freely in the media. The intellectual debate in the “hard right” in mainstream media is pretty much over after the Breivik killings.
Ingrid Carlqvist was one of those in the mainstream media that went a bit too far not realizing that you get fired for very little if you are a writer or an editor for an establishment newspaper or magazine. She got fired as an editor for a little magazine about houses after she wrote positive about single fathers and their right to see their children. This was in 2009. Then she got fired two years ago from a conservative magazine for criticizing the immigration policy. Now she is an outcast. In America she would be well within what is okay in mainstream media you get fired for nothing. The policy from the early 1990s is still in effect.
So what will happen? Well, the media is now putting hard pressure on the politicians to create laws that would close bloggers, erase the anonymity of the internet and tax people for using internet. There is a discussion about making internet more like an Ipad or an Iphone. Then a company can control everything you read and politicians and media would control that company not to let people be “free”. This actually what you hear journalist talk about on TV or Radio every day. More extraordinary is that things we did not see before is getting out there.
Today the communists vote together with the neo-conservatives and classical liberals in the parliament. The communists even vote on classical liberal policies to be supportive of the establishment. The Swedish Democrats was the only party that voted no to the intervention on Libya. Today all establishment parties in Sweden say yes to the European Union – they even wrote the membership into the constitution. Only the Swedish Democrats voted no on that bill including saying that Sweden should leave the European Union. Even in the time of the failed EMU union you see both the liberals, conservative, socialists and communists supporting it and argue for Sweden to both join and borrow money to all these failed EMU states.
These stone throwing anarchists that you thought would read Marx are not supportive of Marx but supportive of neo-conservatism and large corporations. The left wing has lost it.
Yesterday the new Social Democratic leader held a speech were he argued for intervention in Syria and called Syrians for Assyrians. He is the third leader in two years. The former one held “dangerous” conservative views so he was fired after a year including the fact that he did not play his cards well.
If you look at the Polls the Swedish Democrats is rising. If you look at the internet you see nationalist and alternative press. Some of these are among the 15-25 most visited news sites in Sweden. Among the political incorrect press we find:
Contra-Jihad and anti-immigration site Avpixlat, 63th largest site in Sweden
Paleo-Conservative site Free Times is the 81th largest site in Sweden
The Anti-immigrant Site Sweden Confidential is the 116th largest site in Sweden
The white Nationalist newspaper The Realist is the 165th largest site in Sweden
The neo-nazi site The National is the 183th largest site in Sweden.
The white nationalist newspaper National Today is the 339th largest site in Sweden
The numbers is from Alexa.com. All these sites are called racist and dangerous from all parts of the establishment – still these kinds of sites are getting more room. In fact, nationalists and non-establishment people are dominating the Swedish internet. What you can see in Sweden is that there are a growing number of people that are getting to know how things work.
Today they do not only get the Contra-Jihad ideology sent from David Horowitz but also information from Occidental Observer and people that is critical of Jewish elites.
More people are getting angry with the Jewish elites. The reason is that Swedish Jewish elites are not very tolerant – and not very “liberal” at all. Rather they are chauvinists and openly ethno-nationalist Zionist. That makes all these liberal Swedes worried about Muslim fundamentalism also worried about Jews.
To end this long letter: Bengt Westerberg, the former leader of the Liberal Party and the one that said NO to the Lucia Agreement was stabbed in the back a couple of months ago by his Jewish friends when he proposed a ban on non-medical circumcision on male children. Now, this pro-open border and pro-Israel hack was a neo-Nazi and a threat to Jews in Europe!
It is quite exciting to see all these liberals that wanted global liberalism now is stabbed in the back by the Jewish elites that care nothing for liberalism if it not in line with their ethnic and religious identity.
I had a laugh. Now we see multiculturalism continuing on but the elites, especially the Jewish elites are quite scared now that Swedish are about to wake up and defend their way of life.
@Richard:
My tuppence on your next blog, would be to build on what you do best. You empathize and have that honesty about what you’ve been through and how you have prevailed. Stuff like how to live better…not be destructive.
I think a lot of awake whites must be incredibly up and down. The situation can seem really awful, and very often people have absolutely no one in their life who has woken up so there’s real isolation.
The enormity of the situation, the isolation, the feelings of impotency, the sense of duty to do something and be positive…the weight of feelings of responsibility. It’s enough to threaten the mental health of even the strongest most stable of people.
Then there is the problem of how to somehow take on board that the most horrific conspiracy of all turns out to be true and even worse than worst imaginings, without becoming vulnerable to the ocean of other conspiracies and paranoid fantasies that have always liced the world and are no more true – or sane – than they have ever been.
How to navigate all that. How to maintain good judgment, to discern the real from the unreal, when one’s previous world view has completely collapsed. It’s very difficult.
How many of us hit the bottle or drugs and have other relapses as a result? Become porn addicts, or find that a couple of years into being WN our habits and standards have slipped. It’s so easy to become cynical…to stop caring…stop looking after ourselves, become lost to land in that sea of fantasy and conspiracy, unable to tell the difference, drowning not waving, going down.
There’s a lot of psychological stuff you could anticipate in common to WN’s out there, particularly the newbies and isolated souls. You could do good with a blog anticipating some of that…you’d do it well in way most of us couldn’t.
@fender:
Yes, the masses need objective good and evil, but the leaders don’t.
Sounds borderline Straussian (Leo Straus the NeoCon). Careful. Of course, that the concept that the masses are asses is old, indeed. But remember, Whites really are not some Oriental mass to be commanded about like slaves. I don’t just say that out of vanity. Whites have always had an unusual desire for freedom and independence.
The original Aryans were more cowboy than N*zi.
@Mickey Meadows:
Hi Mickey
I can definitely relate to what you wrote.
People seem to respond differently to being pro-White, to the awakening process. And for some, it’s a bumpy ride. (Which is not necessarily a bad thing.)
Some people probably really enjoy it and it gives their life meaning.
Some people might not be affected much, good or bad.
Others experience something like what you are talking about — serious mental problems/suffering.
I’m not sure if I (or anyone else) belong to a single category.
Sometimes I have so many thoughts I don’t know what to do with them. So I’d like to create a window into my mind in case anyone finds my thoughts helpful. And, on a more personal or possibly selfish level, it feels good to know that others are seeing my thoughts, seeing me; that my love and concerns and maybe even fears are being heard and processed by others.
Anyway, thanks for the kind words.
@STARSCREAM:
Christianity is jewish mind control, NOVUS ORDO and all that, those whom the jews wish to destroy they first make christian.
“We don’t really have a Jewish problem. We have a Christian problem.
Ordinarily, we would have no problem dealing with a band of hateful con-artists and liars whose favorite prayer is a license to lie and cheat us. But you can quote the Kol Nidre to a Christian and he won’t bat an eye. He’s programmed to excuse any and every filthy trick played on him. We really have only one problem and that is Christianity. Christianity is the most basic Zionist Jewish mind control program of all time, their greatest crime against us. Read Commissary to the Gentiles by Marcus Eli Ravage.
Christianity has ruined our minds.
It is Judaism for Gentiles and it has made us schizophrenic, because we can’t operate as liars without going crazy. Zionist Jews can, but we can’t. It allows us to be dual-minded. Christians are taught to think of themselves as benign and humane while practicing the most shocking behavior such as keeping slaves, slaughtering Indians, slaughtering our own countrymen, slaughtering foreigners, torturing foreigners, torturing our own prisoners. George Patton was a devout Christian but reveled in slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Germans. That’s dual-minded. The Civil War generals were of the same insane mind, sending thousands of their men into walls of hot lead and shrapnel – for what? A Christian American Union? The Confederates were even more devout than the federals. And just as kill-crazy. The military still uses chaplains to assure their young killers that they’re doing God’s work because doing all that killing just wouldn’t be possible without Christianity making it seem holy. Without the Christian imprimatur, a normal human might see it as wicked murder and lustful destruction for its own sake, which it is.
Christianity must be recognized for what it has always been: Jewish mind control and behavior modification. Those whom the Jews destroy they first make Christian. Christians will not resist Jewish murder and theft. Neither have the Moslems, who are also controlled by their version of Judaism. Did the Christians resist the Bolshevik Jews after 1918? There were so many more of them than Jews but they died in their millions at Zionist hands. A total disgrace, thanks wholly to Christianity.
Again, the root problem is neither Illuminati nor Jews, it is the Christian faith, which is an agreement to surrender and be rewarded in the next life. Our goal should be to root out this self-destructive belief system by showing what it is. Imagine a faith the symbol of which is the instrument of torture and death of its main character! This is morbid, bizarre and obscene.
Does Christianity offer a program for victory over Satan in one’s lifetime? Over the enemies of Christ? Over the enemies of humanity? Or is it just pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye? It’s the perfect con job because you don’t find out if you’re going to heaven until you’re dead.
The Zionist Jews should be congratulated for imposing on us this H-bomb of bad ideas and mind control. It has given them a victory over us without any resistance whatsoever via the spell they’ve cast over us with their witch doctors we call priests, ministers and preachers.”
JB Campbell
@Pessimist: Actually, the Nazis did have morals. Camp Commandants were executed for abusing prisoners. They understood the power of the Jewish press, and insisted that behaviour be beyond reproach. That is one of the reasons they lost.
@fender
Just notice who jumped down your throat – the Catholics, and Jason Speaks (who wanted to distance us from the “n*azis”).
“Morality” is indeed a man made construct, and Jews (and their sister Christians) base their morality on the Jew bible and Jew mythology about “Abraham” “King David” “Jesus” and other mythological, literarary inventions.
Never forget that the Catholic/Christians here worship a Jew god, follow Jew prophets, and spend their time with their noses stuck in Hebrew scriptures, and the New Testament, written in what is essentially Greek “ebonics.”
We’ll have to reclaim the term “morality” however – what is moral is what leads to vital life – we need the morality of the strong and alive, not the Jew morality that worships the weak, the meek, the poor, and the sick.
We are moral, the Judeo-Christians are immoral. They are the haters of life, those who seek our survival and our success are the lovers of life. Christianity is the religion of women and slaves.
To the mouse, the hawk is an evil demon swooping down and eating their little mouse babies. To the hawk, the mice are just dinner. Which is more majestic? Which is more beautiful? Which is the most vital?
@Norwegian:There is a wikipedia article about the Bonnier family: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnier_family
This Bonnier became a Lutheran Priest, look what his doing with the Church:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85ke_Bonnier_d.y.
As editor of Sthlmsliv published Åke Bonnier an interview with Niklas Olaison , who claimed that one of Jesus’ parables about a man who had a sexual relationship with a boy, which Jesus would thus legitimize. It led to a Sten-Gunnar Hedin , prominent figure in the Pentecostal movement , urged the two connected Pentecostals to leave the Swedish Church . Bonnier admitted in an open letter that the publication was a mistake, but did not agree to withdraw edition, why Hedin stood by its invitation. [6] Bonnier became, along with Olaison, notified to the cathedral chapter who found reasons to criticize Dean for sidedness in the interview, which was established not conform to the church’s tradition of interpretation. Bonnier admitted that the criticism was justified, while Olaison left his work. [7]
Bonnier has been involved in controversial events like Pride 2007 [8] and the Parliamentary opening worship that same year – the Cathedral parish initiative – was changed to a multi-religious holiday with Muslim and Jewish elements. Bonnier grounds that these religions, in his view, worship the same God. [9]
He participated in 2008 in the ecumenical Jesus Manifestation , where he sat in the management team. He dropped out of the team, however, because he felt that his theological views would lead to fragmentation [10] [11] .
From the Swedish Wikipedia.
Unbelievably hateful comment two above this one. I encourage everyone to click on the Contact section above and send an email, referencing the comment. Actually, the email is editors@theoccidentalobserver.net
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@Hooper
Fair enough; for my own part in that, mea culpa.
Agreed; I have thought much the same about your own occasional Russian-based remarks. I also commend to your attention the very interesting albeit lengthy comment from Daniel, which followed hard upon your own.
@Richard Pierce: I lose no sleep over having “failed” you, Mr. Pierce (fender has shown himself quite adept at speaking for himself—or haven’t you noticed?). If only I could have failed Lenin, FDR, and Napoleon to a similar extent!
As for my dying soon (how extraordinary your powers of observation must be!), you are, I fear, already deader than I shall ever be. To use a Blakean image, you wear shackles your own mind has forged. Throw them off while you still have time.
Jason! Am I to conclude that you are exempt from death??? LOL!
@Jason Speaks: It’s commendable of you to speak up.
I can’t help wondering when the open and public expression of contempt directed at a woman or at women became a part of the WN armamentarium. Could this be a fragment of the Odinist revival, about which we haven’t heard much of late? (Perhaps the neo-Odinists were washed away in the recent “Christian Identity” deluge that has left many of us struggling to reach the high ground of sanity.)
I am sure it’s the merest coincidence that Jews and Muslims have publicly abused women in precisely this fashion for uncountable centuries. It’s a great way of letting the world know how impressively sized your third leg is, and it’s a lot cheaper than buying a red Ferrari to tell the same tale.
@Pierre de Craon:
Loved your response. Yes, I guess it provides a Ferrari for the common man. We can’t all be leaders of men or flash about in a Porsche 911, but any of us, and I mean any of us can hurl insults at a mere woman, at least online.
Of course, in my experience, such characters immediately wilt in the presences of a real life woman. Visible heart palpitations are the general rule. And if she smiles at him, the torrent of repressed emotions that erupts from the poor guy makes him run for the exit. No wonder they hate women so!
I guess it is inevitable that leftist feminism, with its hatred towards males (and that often includes young boys), would create a reaction of utter misogyny. Of course, when it comes to that kind of hate, the hater destroys himself. It’s just tragic to see people playing the role of wind-up toys – each playing their roles to destroy any sense of community, as desired by our elites.
Well, sigh… somebody needs to do this. I’ve wanted to do it for a long time but I can’t find the time to do it. I suppose I could do it in pieces…
From its beginning and up to the present the U.S. is by far the most religious Western nation on the planet. Why is that?
Some of the most brilliant minds that have ever existed on earth were Christians. How many can you name? How did they affect Western civilization?
Christianity had a profound impact on the development of the West and set the West apart from non-Western nations in terms government, law, education, and a host of civilizational advancements unknown to other nations.
Even if you are not a Christian, have no intention of becoming one, or even hate Christians (as many Jews do), we need to know how Christianity formed our civilization into what it is today. No education of who we are as a people can be complete without knowing these things.
Christianity as it is typically practiced today often gets a bad rap. Deservedly so in many cases but to have it scapegoated into some kind of pacifist philosophy created by Jews to warp and control the minds on non-Jews is ridiculous. How any Westerner can make comments like that is embarrassing. It shows a profound lack of historical knowledge.
So few have written on this important topic and how it relates to ethnic nationalism. I would like to if I can get some time…
@Pierre de Craon: @Jason Speaks:
Gentlemen, I should be the last one to object when you come to the defense of a lady, but since I am, indeed, very old and have seen much, I must point out that rude, whiny little boys who blame mommy and daddy for not bequeathing them perfection are not limited to WN’s.
His real grievance is that we have enough respect for fender, despite his blue funk, to call him to his better self, while Mr. Pierce can be safely ignored.
@Tom: I think we should frame immigration as an economic issue. Pay us 250,000 USD, prove you are young and healthy, then you can come here if you create and not take jobs. Otherwise, go somewhere else.
@buckle: I believe this is the Bishop Richardson segment that brought such wrath down on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM&feature=related
@Jason Speaks:
“Whites really are not some Oriental mass to be commanded about like slaves.”
The jews do a pretty good job of it.
(Note this post is ON topic, considering the original post about moral community.)
@Athling
The “Germanization of Christianity” has been discussed quite a bit in these circles, and the fact that the Roman Catholic church, being both Roman and Judeo-Christian, preserved the traditions of the Roman Empire.
Of course, Christianity is a part of our heritage, our past, and we are who we are because of it, for both good and ill. It had a biological, genetic effect on us, because of the imposition of monogamy and the prohibitions of inbreeding, etc.
However, the modern scientific age has simply made Christianity moot. Even our limited understanding of evolution and physics has rendered biblical cosmology irrelevant. Alchemy was an important stepping stone to developing chemistry; astrology an important step towards developing astronomy. But what would we say to a modern person suggesting that alchemy and astrology are somehow important in the modern age? We would call them a kook.
For the record, the idea that Christianity was a “Jewish plot against the West,” is ahistorical. Christianity instead looks a lot more like a Roman plot against Jews, one that was successful for a time, but backfired on us in a profound way. It’s also an inconvient fact that the Church has tended to work hand-in-hand with Jews to exploit the mass of Europeans – the Court Jews, and the fact that the Catholic powers gave Jews a monopoly on finance. Anti-Jewish pograms were an exception to this long partnership. Rome is closer to Africa than Scandanavia.
The facts of Christianity in the modern era cannot be disputed – it’s a majority non-White religion, its future growth clearly among non-Whites, its metaphysics are non-scientific, and its institutions are actively anti-White. The Catholic church is one of the major proponents of non-White immigration to the US, and the Protestants are increasingly Zionist and non-White. Christianity, essentially a universalist, anti-racial form of Judaism, is at odds with White survival.
The Christians in pro-White circles clearly care more about their religion than their race – in fact, they must, if they take their religion seriously. A serious Christian must be more concerned with the “after-life” (itself a primitive superstition) than actual existing life here on earth. Anyone who takes the Beatitudes, or the writings of Paul, seriously, treasures the weak, the poor, the simple minded, the foolish.
Whites should not go back to the Jewish and Judaic-Hellenic superstitions of the past for moral guidance. Our moral community can instead be based on what is good for us, in the here-and-now.
@Vlad Writes: Isn’t this the immigration policy of Australia for some people? Isn’t something similar in place in Canada? Only the U.S. because of some elitist agenda do we allow more immigration than all other nations combined!! Someone had better start asking who exactly controls U.S. immigration policy.
@cogito: cogito, there was no ‘German death machine’ in Sweden. You’ve been deceived. Sweden is more or less next door to Germany. Sweden’s crime as far as Jews were concerned is that they supplied Germany with good quality iron ore. Sometimes you see Youtubes of Jews in Sweden, and in effect this sort of thing is all they focus on. I think it’s genetic. They cannot see other peoples’ point of view. They cannot understand that other people have traditions and culture. Sweden’s vast history, its towns, villages, trade, military history, landscape, language seems to have no meaning for Jews, any more than a monkey understands where its zoo food and buildings come from. They are rather like simple people breeding fast despite having no resources – they will simply go ahead, blinkered (blindered in US?) by their insanely narrow range of fixed ideas. Thanks by the way to the commentators from Sweden (and Norwegians – NB Sweden and Norway separated in about 1900 – I don’t know how many people know that).
How do you craft a message of the morality of White survival when your White audience already believes that notion of White survival sounds to them like “Heil Hitler” and will only lead to more lynchings and cross burnings?
The idea of explicit Whiteness has be so continuously merged with Klu Kluxing that nobody dares respond to their own genocide for fears of being called a racist by the SPLC.
A people as weak as us deserves the horrors to come…
@fender:
The Jews have never explicitly commanded Whites around like Oriental masses and neither has anyone else for any length of time. The power Jews exercise is always hidden from the general public. That is why Jews go ballistic at the thought of public discussion of Jewish influence. The moment Whites become aware of it, the game is over.
“Morality” is anything that I say it is. It is just a matter of a person’s opinion, usually backed up by a gun(per Chairman Mao paraphrased). What can not be denied is DARWIN. The laws of nature(which is also the laws of the CREATOR) state that doing whatever is necessary to preserve the tribe is the thing to do.
I have been successful in convincing progressive Jews not to support the radical right government of Israel. The rabbi Yosef that is a member of the government is an extreme racist and crazy person like the Iranian leader. One crazy telling the other that they should be destroyed. America should not get involved in this. IT is just too crazy. American tax dollars should not support a radical right racist government of Israel.
Check out The New Commandments by the late Christopher Hitchens. I suspect that there’s enough moral universalism in these to make the Jewish Multicultural Agenda in the West succeed, since these commandments are not actually immoral in and of themselves. The rule “Do not be a racist” is his # 1, and therein lies the Achilles’ Heel of the thing.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/04/hitchens-201004
Here they are — the Hitchen’s Ten Commandments: Do not condemn people on the basis of their ethnicity or color. Do not ever use people as private property. Despise those who use violence or the threat of it in sexual relations. Hide your face and weep if you dare to harm a child. Do not condemn people for their inborn nature—why would God create so many homosexuals only in order to torture and destroy them? Be aware that you too are an animal and dependent on the web of nature, and think and act accordingly. Do not imagine that you can escape judgment if you rob people with a false prospectus rather than with a knife. Turn off that ******* cell phone—you have no idea how unimportant your call is to us. Denounce all jihadists and crusaders for what they are: psychopathic criminals with ugly delusions. Be willing to renounce any god or any religion if any holy commandments should contradict any of the above.”
Sadly, prominent modern evolutionists, such as Richard Dawkins, attach no importance to racial or ethnic interests and are very multicultural. I’m all for Evolution, but modern experts on the subject disappoint me in this Culture War, as they support the Jewish Agenda.
This article rings the bones. Mr. MacDonald is a hero of the White peoples. We need to rally around him and all like him and network IRL in all possible ways, for total regeneration and cohesion-building.
Moral Outrage. It rings my bells of truth.
According to the late Christopher Hitchens, the #1 MORAL COMMANDMENT for our modern age should be (replacing the Biblical Ten):
1. Do not condemn people on the basis of their ethnicity or color.
This is a new “religion” for a new world order.
Since Christopher Hitchens once called all those who would preserve or favor the survival and interests of the White Race “White Trash,” we know the true meaning of his “commandment.” (After all, I myself would not “condemn” anyone merely on his color or ethnicity.) No, the real meaning of this NWO command is, “Do not love or prefer your own ethnicity or race — especially race.”
This is a bit interesting. This website is the Jewish Task Force, which I take it to be a right wing organization (not 100% sure). Someone there quoted bits of the Mantra and complained about it, however, what’s interesting is how many of the posters, who are Jews, agreed with it. They are deeply distrustful of N*zi affiliations, obviously, and they try and link Whitaker to that (very untrue, he is not sympathetic to NS).
Unlike some posters here, I find the right wing Jews less Anti-White than the regular or leftwing Jews. There are exceptions, like elite NeoCons, but several of these posters actually made pro-White points.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=63508.0
@Jason Speaks:
Oh, the part these Jews agreed with is that it is not good for White countries to be destroyed, that White genes need protection, and that it is unfair for White countries and ONLY White countries to be targeted.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=63508.0
To those who say that we don’t have a “Jewish” problem but a “Christian” problem- you don’t know who you are and what true Christianity is.
The problem is not Christ or the scriptures. The problem is that mainstream Christianity has been infiltrated and corrupted.
The solution is a return to your true physical and spiritual identity as a physical Israelite Christian.
Just because the “Jews” and their cohorts have twisted the scriptures to judaize Christianity does not mean that Christ and his word are not the ultimate definition of truth.
Only truth defeats lies and the truth is the white/European peoples of the 4 corners of the earth now are the real Israelite/Judaites- not the so called Jews who are from Esau-Ashkenaz.
I find it interesting that those who continually claim that the Christian scripture are the problem NEVER know jack cr-p about what they actually say.
To add to the above, Christian European nations of the past kicked out the “Jews” 109 times in the last 2000 years. What has the macro evolutionist, secular etc done? NOTHING but aid the “Jew” in destroying our nations by facilitating the separation between the white man and his creator!
If you nay sayers have any legitimacy in your criticisms of Christ then you would be able to explain WHY it is that the New Contract, if broken down, is a blueprint to how to defeat the Satanic “Jews”. This New Contract is the ONLY blueprint that has EVER worked. You naysayers would have to explain why it is that the New Contract- Christ’s words are the largest truth laden condemnation of the “Jew” the world has ever known.
Can you explain these things- these truths? Nope…so please do us a favor and shut your anti Christ which by default is pro “Jew” mouth!
@TyronRobertParsons:
These 109 times expulsions of the Jews from European countries do not “prove” your interpretation of Christianity at all. Whenever Jews were expelled, they were expelled because of their misbehaviour ( mostly usury) and not because according to some interpretation of Cristianity they were seen as undesirable citizens. In those times “political correctness” didn’t exist, nowadays Western nations cannot expell even robbing and gang raping Somali or Latino gangs from their countries, let alone Jews. But with Christianity, in whatever form it has nothing to do.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Were they or were they not expelled from Christian nations those times they were? Answer- YES
Is usury against Christian/Common/Constitutional law? YES
Were they forbidden to even sit in Government under Christian peoples rule? YES
Did you dupes allow Christian oaths to be nullified? YES
This is opening of the gate allow them to have practical rule of white peoples? YES
Are the other things the “Jews” engaged in against Christian law? YES!
Your Secular- Macro Evolutionary fairytale mindset is what presided over the Jews mass invasion of Christian Europe and Christian America esablishing the complete disaster we see today-why? Because you SHARE the belief system of about 95% of those who claim to be “Jews”. This is what allowed the “Jews” to infiltrate ALL of our Christian institutions that previous to you suckers, DOMINATED all European nations.
Anyone who denies this is either an idiot or blind as all hell.
Like Stalin the “Jew” (name was Jewman) said of America:
“America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.”
And you Franklin along with your ideological cohorts acted as the cannon fodder to bring this about for the “Jews” – you know- those you CLAIM falsely to oppose.
@TyronRobertParsons:
You are even worse : you claim to be Jews yourselves. If there is any people locked in the box of Jewish thinking it is you Christian Indenticists. Not only is your whole worldview restricted to the Old Testament but you even imagine to BE the people of the Old Testament! As if that is not bad enough, you see it as the fulfilment of history when the European peoples will settle in the Middle East, because that is their original homeland! And all that because you claim to be descendants of a cunning Hebrew bedouin called Jacob ( but not of his honest brother Esau) who had his dishonesty rewarded with the “blessing” of his tribal god Yahweh. What a nonsense.
BTW, American Christians are the people most ready to fight and bleed for the Jews. I don’t think your despised Darwinists would be that foolish.
JTF is two guys in Brooklyn and a youtube channel. They have no influence in the Jewish community, and their entire purpose is to get conservative Whites to support Israel. They are Kahanists. I’m hardly surprised they are being promoted here by the usual suspect – a consistent pattern – as if the “good Jews” are really “on our side.”
Oy vey.
@Franklin Ryckaert:
Shut up Franklin. All you ever do is slander the truth for your buddy, the “Jews”. I have ALWAYS delineated between a “Jew” and a true Judaite/Israelite-and have done so from the very beginning here, just as scriptures and Christ do. You know this- liar!
My view is not locked in the OT- it is locked on the NEW CONTRACT and Christ Jesus- the most successful enemy of the “Jew” the world has EVER known. The old Contract explains the history of ALL the peoples of the earth from an ethnocentric and creator driven view of REAL Israel/Judah- the narrative and identity being stolen by the so called “Jews” of Ashkenaz and Esau.
I have repeated this endlessly as well. You know that too.
Lastly you bibically illiterate DOLT, Esau was and is a mass murdering psychopath with no concern for his Brother, family or humanity as a whole. This is why God hated Esau in the womb. This is WHY Esay sold his first birthright to his brotherfor a bowl of soup, and had his second taken from him through the forced deception of THEIR MOTHER who INSTRUCTED Jacob to do as he did- taking full responsibility for the act herself while exempting her Son Jacob from ANY and ALL responsibility. Jacob even tried to make peace with Esau afterwords and explain what happened. He gave Esau the choice of all the material blessings (land-animals etc) after Isaac’s death and Esau took the best thereof, leaving nothing of value, so he thought, for his Brother.
Furthermore you biblically illiterate dunce and anti Christ- “Jew” lover to boot- the “Jews” ADMIT THEY ARE ESAU AND YOU, you fake, you imposter, you enemy of the whiteman and his creator/savior- SUPPORT HIM!
“Edom is modern Jewry.” – “Encyclopaedica Judaica”, 1925
As Rosenthal said”
“Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer.” – Harold Rosenthal, aide to Senator Jacob Javits – 1976; So go back to your father you fake- you slandering hypocrite!
Go back to lucifer and his chosen the “Jews” whom you service here continually because God knows you can’t defeat the logic I posted above concerning your continuing role being the front line useful idiots for the “Jews”.
Nuff said…
@TyronRobertParsons:
Sometimes idiots are amusing, sometimes they are annoying. When they keep repeating their delusions, they definitely become annoying.
And yes, Yahweh is Lucifer, that is your “God”.
Love Esau,hate Jacob!
@Franklin Ryckaert:
“Sometimes idiots are amusing, sometimes they are annoying. When they keep repeating their delusions, they definitely become annoying.And yes, Yahweh is Lucifer, that is your “God”.Love Esau,hate Jacob!”
Answer
Here is Franklin, coming clean about who he really supports YET AGAIN.
“Edom (Esau) is modern Jewry.” – “Encyclopaedica Judaica”, 1925
Franklin LOVES Esau “Jews” and hates Jacob (white man- Christianity)
@Pierre de Craon: Pierre, the election of Barack Obama put me on watch. What finally truly activated me was watching how the coverage of the Trayvon Martin case unfolded in the U.S. media. Their Antiwhite bias was SO over the top and unbridled a person would have to be WILLFULLY blind to miss it. Add to that a couple of black on white crowd chimp outs at public events that were barely publicized and it all fell into place for me. In addition someone had posted a copy of the video entitled ‘How whites Took Over America’ which put me on the trail of Bob Whitaker’s work and a podcast called ‘Follow the White Rabbit’ put out by ‘Horus the Avenger.’ I have been warning against and fighting white genocide ever since then. In the process I have become estranged from my four (white) children who’s futures I am in this fight for in the first place but it does not matter to me. I don’t care if they NEVER accept what I am doing as long as I can play my part in securing a future for them and their children.