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Jewish Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump (4): Neocon Angst About A Fascist America

Kevin MacDonald


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Previously posted at VDARE.com 

The reactions of anonymous people on Twitter criticizing Jews are now fodder for news stories by both “right wing” Jews like Ben Shapiro and more liberal journalists like Jonathan Weisman.  [Trump’s supporters unleash anti-Semitic attack on New York Times editor, by Sophia Tesfaye, Salon, May 20, 2016] Somehow, all the death threats,  vulgar criticism, and actual violence  conservatives have received over the years never become  a source of sympathy from the Main Stream Media!

One of the more spectacular examples of an MSM frenzy over supposed anti-Semitism: the reaction to the attack by David Horowitz against his fellow Jew Bill Kristol, leader of a campaign to destroy Donald Trump [Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Jew, May 15, 2016] The headline, written by Horowitz, alluded to Kristol being Jewish.

As Jonathan S. Tobin [Email him] notes in Commentary,

[T]he real offense here is … his attempt to wrap him in the Star of David and to somehow brand his opponents as traitors to the pro-Israel cause. …

[H]is invocation of “America First” and the use of a term like “renegade Jew” in the headline (though not in the text of the article) seems to echo the smears of the pro-Trump alt right racists who have attacked conservative critics of the candidate with an avalanche of anti-Semitic invective.

[Breitbart’s ‘Renegade Jew’ Disgrace, May 16, 2016]

Horowitz’s offense was not simply criticizing Kristol’s campaign against Trump. Lots of people have done that without incurring the wrath of Commentary. And even saying that Kristol’s views are not good for Jews and Israel is commonplace:  Mondoweiss, J Street, and Mearsheimer and Walt in The Israel Lobby argue that neoconservatives and the Israel Lobby have a tragically mistaken view of Jewish and Israeli interests—also discussed in Charles Bloch’s and Steve Sailer’s VDARE posts.

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The unforgivable offense: implying Kristol’s being a Jew had something to do with his opposition to Trump. After all, there would have been exactly zero upset if instead the headline was “Bill Kristol: Republican Spoiler, Renegade Republican.”

But putting ‘Jew’ in the headline was guaranteed to bring out immediate charges of anti-Semitism by the likes of Michelle Goldberg [Email her] in Slate :

To define someone as a ‘Renegade Jew’ in a column about scheming elites written for an audience full of white nationalists is to signal to the sewers. … A narrative is taking shape, an American Dolchstoßlegende that will blame a potential Trump loss on conniving Semites.

[Breitbart Calls Trump Foe “Renegade Jew.” This Is How Anti-Semitism Goes Mainstream, May 16, 2016]

Of course, we are supposed to engage in the fiction that the opinions of Bill Kristol et al. have nothing to do with being Jewish or what is good for Israel, but everything to do with their perception of what is good for America.

And of course, this goes well beyond neocons to include Jews in the media generally. For example, the ADL condemns the idea Jews have an outsized influence in Hollywood by claiming that Hollywood Jews just “happen to be Jews”—that their Jewish identity does not affect the content of movies or television. [Alleged Jewish ‘Control’ of the American Motion Picture IndustrySeptember 1999] As I’ve painstakingly documented over the course of my career, this is patently absurd. In fact, the Jewish identities and sense of Jewish interests of the neocons are obvious from a close reading of their careers [Understanding Jewish Influence III: Neoconservatism as a Jewish Movementby Kevin MacDonald, The Occidental Quarterly, August 2004].

While it’s obviously true that Trump has support among some Jews linked to the GOP, there is one Jewish faction that is all but apoplectic he might win [Where Jewish conservatives stand on Donald Trump: A running tally, by Ron Kampeas, Jewish Telegraph Agency, May 6, 2016]. And there can be little doubt that their opposition is fueled by their Jewish identity.

This is mystifying to some. For example, Bill O’Reilly seemed genuinely bewildered when he interviewed (at 3:00) Charles Krauthammer—another ardent neocon opponent of Trump— about a Bret Stephens article in the Wall Street Journal.

Stephens was triggered by Trump’s use of the phrase “America First” and decried  “the Republican descent into populism” [The GOP Gets What It Deserves, May 2, 2016]. O’Reilly couldn’t help but observe, “he’s really teed off, he’s really angry.”

maxbootcfrStephens’ outburst was nothing compared to the anti-Trump invective spewed by neocon stalwart Max Boot [email him]

Boot said:

I would vote for a conservative third-party candidate or for Hillary Clinton. I regard Donald Trump as an ignorant demagogue who is one of the most dangerous candidates ever to run for the American presidency and one of the least qualified. … He has shown that he doesn’t understand the basics of policy, he has shown that he is erratic, he is xenophobic, he is guilty of sexist and racist comments …

Let’s remember, this is the guy who wants to ban all Muslims from the country, he wants to send the police breaking into American homes to round up 11 million undocumented migrants; … He has hijacked the party. … He is not remotely conservative. He is a populist demagogue, xenophobic…[BBC NewsNight (YouTube) May 9, 2016]

This sort of anger is hardly likely to come from Trump’s supposed lack of concern about “limited government,” or “commitment to the Constitution,” “true conservatism,” or even his personal qualities.

In unpacking these talking points, it’s useful to separate the red herrings from more fundamental concerns. For real conservatives, such as Mike Huckabee, Rick Perry, and Newt Gingrich, this election is a simple choice between someone who would be far better than Hillary Clinton on fundamental issues conservatives claim to hold dear. There is in fact a long list of Trump policies and proposals that are conservative by any reckoning—promising Scalia-like Supreme Court appointments, securing the border and deporting illegals, supporting the police against the Black Lives Matter movement, promising to end Obamacare, doing away with Common Core, taking strong pro-life and pro-Second Amendment stands, and supporting the military and veterans. [Trump unveils his potential Supreme Court nominees, by Jeremy Diamond, CNN, May 28, 2016]

Neocons never threatened to run a third-party candidate against “compassionate conservative” George W. Bush even though he was far more liberal than Trump—proposing Amnesty for illegals, expanding Medicare entitlements, signing No Child Left Behind, and racking up huge budget deficits—what some have called “Big Government Conservatism” [The liberal leanings of George W. Bush, by John Ibbitson, The Globe and Mail, April 3, 2009]. Nor was Mitt Romney a small-government candidate. [Back to Bush’s Big-Government Conservatism, by Michael Tanner, National Review, November 30, 2011]

For neocons, the huge expansion of entitlements, promotion of culture-destroying immigration, and rampaging budget deficits were not offenses against “conservatism.” These policies didn’t even register as a problem. It was more important that Bush carried out their (disastrous) neoconservative foreign policy.

It’s impossible to take the dedication of self-styled “conservatives” like Stephens and Kristol to conservative principles seriously. After all, they refuse to acknowledge that unless we deal with the problem of importing millions of Third Worlders who both vote for and utilize welfare and “big government,” any kind of “limited government” will be impossible.

Another very basic principle actual conservatives support is freedom of speech. Immigration threatens this as well. Universities throughout the West are under siege by the intolerant Left, and one more liberal appointment to the Supreme Court could well be the end of the First Amendment. Intellectual rationales for curtailing First Amendment freedoms, and in particular speech critical of the multicultural ideal, are already common in liberal academic circles [Why we should ban “hate speech,” by Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, August 24, 2012]. Continuing to import millions from intolerant Third World cultures does not bode well.

Yet Stephens and Kristol soft-pedal the effect the catastrophic impact of a President Hillary Clinton. Indeed, Kristol [Email him] is given to Pollyannaish  tweets that a Third-Party candidate would actually win.

There is a viable path to victory for a credible independent candidate. Not easy, but doable.http://datatargeting.com/POTUS 

This is presumably to avoid the charge that he is really quite happy with Clinton and her pro-Israel donors, notably Haim Saban [Jane Harmon, Haim Saban, and AIPAC: The Disloyalty Issue in Multicultural America, by Kevin MacDonald, The Occidental Observer, April 25, 2009].

Indeed, it’s hard to see why Kristol would disapprove of Hillary’s neocon foreign policy advisers like Robert Kagan,  [Email him]who advocates military intervention and democracy creation throughout the Middle East as a moral imperative [Neocon Kagan Endorses Hillary Clinton, ConsortiumNews, February 25, 2016]. Needless to say, this doesn’t stop Kagan from portraying Trump as a fascist [This is how fascism comes to America, Washington Post, May 18, 2016].

So why are neocons so upset? Two reasons:

1.) Trump has rejected basic neocon foreign policy positions on the Middle East. Trump opposed the Iraq war which was promoted by the neocons, calling it a “complete disaster.” Amazingly, he stated:

“They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction and there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.”

[Trump vs. Bush: They Said There Were Weapons of Mass Destruction And They Knew There Were None. They Lied, Real Clear Politics, February 13, 2016]

Trump has also supported friendly relations with Vladimir Putin’s Russia and supported an effort to achieve stability in the Middle East by propping up the Assad government in Syria. Assad and Putin are very high on the neocon hate list.

And Trump has given mixed signals on Israel, speaking about neutrality in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and avoiding money from the Republican Jewish Coalition. His most recent speech on the topic, at AIPAC, was intended to quell Jewish fears and mend fences, but the Washington Post’s token (neo)conservative Jennifer Rubin [email her] emphasized that this speech was recited from a teleprompter, implying that it didn’t reflect his real views [Trumpkins and the Jews, Washington Post, May 16, 2016]

Of course, Trump has received promises of support from Sheldon Adelson. He also hired ex-AIPAC official Michael Glassner and other prominent Jews to high positions in his campaign [Trump names Jewish financier, fixer to major campaign positions, by Nathan Guttman, Forward, May 7, 2016]

But Trump has given no indication that he would appoint any neocons to his administration. And, unlike George W. Bush, Trump is not a babe in the woods, ready to be dominated by a coterie of neocons. This would mean that the neocons would be deprived of their primary power base, with no choice but to defect to the Democrats (whence they came).

2.) Trump represents the undoing of elite consensus on immigration, multiculturalism, and the moral imperative that white Americans become a minority in a country they created.

All of these radically Leftist positions have now been subsumed into “conservative” dogma.

The fact is neocons have never been true conservatives. They adopted conservative positions of convenience in order to appeal to the GOP base. The problem for them now: the base, energized by Trump, is finally ignoring the moral pronouncements coming from on high and voting on the issues that really matter to them, trade, jobs, and immigration. And yes, they also love Trump’s disdain for Political Correctness.

Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal is well aware that what he calls “modern conservatism” is a departure from older conservative traditions, which have been the prime target of Jewish intellectuals throughout the twentieth century, including the neoconservatives (labeled as “modern conservatives” by Stephens).

Stephens [Email him] wrote

[Trumpism] is a regression to the conservatism of blood and soil, of ethnic polarization and bullying nationalism. Modern conservatives sought to bury this rubbish with a politics that strikes a balance between respect for tradition and faith in the dynamic and culture-shifting possibilities of open markets. When that balance collapses—under a Republican president, no less—it may never again be restored, at least in our lifetimes. [Emphases added throughout]

[Hillary, the Conservative Hope, May 9, 2016]

Or Jennifer Rubin, cited above:

Trump’s nativism and xenophobia make him toxic with a good deal of the American Jewish community for whom such sentiments have invariably been associated with governments hostile to Jews.

Or Robert Kagan, cited above:

[Trump’s] public discourse consists of attacking or ridiculing a wide range of “others”—Muslims, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Mexicans, Europeans, Arabs, immigrants, refugees—whom he depicts either as threats or as objects of derision. His program, such as it is, consists chiefly of promises to get tough with foreigners and people of nonwhite complexion. He will deport them, bar them, get them to knuckle under, make them pay up or make them shut up.

Contra Stephens, the neocons never respected tradition and gave only lip service to faith. Their only outreach was recruiting Evangelical Christians to the cause of a rabidly pro-Israel foreign policy.

Stephens is correct in that there was an older tradition of conservatism based on the ethno-national interests of the traditional American majority. This was purged by the neocons. They are now afraid it is returning, perhaps in the form of the Alt Right—the only recognizable intellectual constituency that supports Trump.

In fact, the intellectual antecedents of the Alt Right go back much further than the conservatives of the 1980s who were purged by the neocons. Their roots go back to Madison Grant, Lothrop Stoddard, Henry Pratt Fairchild, William Ripley, Gustave Le Bon, Charles Davenport, and William McDougall. The Alt Right is an updated version of this intellectual milieu of the early twentieth century when America was self-consciously a European, Christian nation and proud of it [Enemies of my enemy, by Kevin MacDonald, KevinMacDonald.com, Accessed May 20, 2016]. They go back to Charles Lindbergh and the America First movement that has received so much attention since Trump began using the phrase. Significantly, the ADL was among those urging Trump to abandon the phrase [ADL urges Donald Trump to Reconsider “America First” in Foreign Policy Approach, ADL, April 28, 2016]

This early conservative tradition was eradicated by the rise of Franz Boas and the other Jewish-dominated intellectual movements of the left discussed in The Culture of Critiquean intellectual framework that has been embraced by the neocons.

As Robert Kagan writes of Trump:

If he wins the election, his legions will comprise a majority of the nation. Imagine the power he would wield then. In addition to all that comes from being the leader of a mass following, he would also have the immense powers of the American presidency at his command: the Justice Department, the FBI, the intelligence services, the military. Who would dare to oppose him then? Certainly not a Republican Party that laid down before him even when he was comparatively weak. And is a man like Trump, with infinitely greater power in his hands, likely to become more humble, more judicious, more generous, less vengeful than he is today, than he has been his whole life? Does vast power un-corrupt?

This is how fascism comes to America.

But perhaps fascism is in the eye of the beholder. After all, it’s in the West of today that certain ideas are illegal, certain political parties are banned, and the majority populations of white nations are openly despised, dispossessed, and have their public policy views dismissed by unelected judges.

How is resisting such tyrannical and genocidal policies “fascist?

It’s not that Trump is bringing “fascism,” it’s that there’s a chance he might be bringing freedom for European-Americans. And for all their talk of tolerance, that’s one thing the Culture of Critique will never allow.

Kevin MacDonald [email him] is emeritus professor of psychology at California State University–Long Beach. His research has focused on developing evolutionary perspectives in developmental psychology, personality theory, Western culture, and ethnic relations (group evolutionary strategies). He edits and is a frequent contributor to The Occidental Observer and The Occidental Quarterly. For his website, click here.

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29 Comments to "Jewish Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump (4): Neocon Angst About A Fascist America"

  1. Ingrid B's Gravatar Ingrid B
    May 25, 2016 - 7:51 am | Permalink

    If Trump becomes the next POTUS, Trump, like all the others before him, will toe the jewish line.. However, the next POTUS was decided on a long time ago. I cannot understand why Americans still believe that their votes matter..

    • mari's Gravatar mari
      May 26, 2016 - 10:58 am | Permalink

      I feel the same. it’s like some medieval dynastic struggle. Will the next King be the 5 year old son or 30 year old brother of the king that just died.

  2. Avi Marranazo's Gravatar Avi Marranazo
    May 24, 2016 - 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Bravissimo Doctor MacDonald!

  3. Mari's Gravatar Mari
    May 24, 2016 - 7:51 am | Permalink

    Luke,
    I read Jewish publications all the time. Moving the Anerican embassy to Jerusalem is a major, major Jewish goal. Our state department is adamently opposed to moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Jews hate the state department because unlike our Presidents who have only to please Jewish overlords, the state department’s concerns is all the countries on earth not a tiny freckle on the face of the earth

    If Trump moves the embassy to Jerusalem the Jews will dance in the streets to celebrate their victory over the state department which Jews hate passionately as anti Semitic

  4. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    May 23, 2016 - 3:44 pm | Permalink

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  5. mari's Gravatar mari
    May 23, 2016 - 10:43 am | Permalink

    Trump has said he is totally pro Israel. He will make the pilgrimage required of all presidential candidates soon. It’s like the oath of fealty medieval nobles made to the King or grand duke or whatever warlord was in power.
    Adelson supports Trump. Soros and the majority of Jews support Clinton. SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?

    • Sam J.'s Gravatar Sam J.
      May 30, 2016 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

      “…He will make the pilgrimage required of all presidential candidates soon…”

      The question is, will he wear the stupid Jew beanie hat? If he wears the hat it’s a bad sign.

      I’m stuck between believing that Trump is a true America First White guy or he is a propped up pseudo Hitler to fool us all. After all it’s about time for a Hitler type character because of the Jews provocations. Why wouldn’t they get their own this time?

      If he prosecutes Bush for 9-11 and doesn’t touch the Jews you’ll know he’s the Jews’ shabbos Goy. If he doesn’t prosecute anyone for 9-11, you’ll know he’s the Jews’ shabbos Goy. I don’t think there’s anyway to tell until he’s elected. If he has flaws the press will not tell us what they are. The only flaws I know of are his relation with Epstein, his close work with Jews and his presence at Studio 54 when various decadent things were going on. All of the above mean nothing. We have essentially no well financed independent news.

  6. Gary Cowson's Gravatar Gary Cowson
    May 23, 2016 - 8:15 am | Permalink

    “It’s not that Trump is bringing ‘fascism,’ it’s that there’s a chance he might be bringing freedom for European-Americans. And for all their talk of tolerance, that’s one thing the Culture of Critique will never allow.”

    There is this fantastic Far Side cartoon which cracked me up so much (long time ago, I know…). It stays with you for ages, making you sort of mull it over in spite of yourself… It’s that one in which one cow among the herd suddenly pops its head up from the pasture — startled, surprised, in shock even — and says: “Hey, wait a minute! This is grass! We’ve been eating grass!”

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/130182245451692296/

    Well, dear fellow cattle, who has been feeding us this poisoned grass-for-goyim? Readers of the incomparable Kevin MacDonald know full well. But what happens next, after one cow jolts up? What happens when hundreds, even thousands of cows pop up their heads from feeding on the grasslands of deceit? What happens when it suddenly dawns on the herd that it can be… free?!

    You all know very well what happens: a stampede! A full-blown all-out livestock blitzkrieg!! Be truthful and think back to your own awakening: after the initial surprise and shock, weren’t you enraged? Didn’t a surge of uncontrollable anger flow through your veins until it boiled your blood? Didn’t you want to crush and maul and stamp out those who tricked you for so long, who put you out to pasture, who conned you into eating grass?

    That’s what the Culture of Critique Crowd (((CCC))) is really worried about: the rage and rampage that will come soon after The Trumpening, after the REAL Trump Awakening, not this sort-of, half-way, fake-awake that’s supposedly happening right now. And we can’t have that, can we? We’ve had too many of those already, in our dark past, have we not? It’s obvious what must continue to happen: ruminants shall remain ruminating! After all, that’s where we belong – grazing — lest we break free and cause chaos and havoc, especially for said Crowd.

    So, please, goyim – keep chewing the cud, and, above all… stay away from the pitchforks!!!

    http://giphy.com/gifs/StYFyOLYpGdKE

  7. kikz's Gravatar kikz
    May 23, 2016 - 6:31 am | Permalink

    the whole lot of them, should hora onto an el al flight and return to THEIR OTHER COUNTRY.

  8. May 22, 2016 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Will read this right now. Have been redpilled again, second time in a few months. It seems like fun to the outsider, it is a wretched pain for a person who has some shred of empathy. Watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mjwfMfdsKo

    Until now was debating with my Jewish “friends” about who they are. Now I stop FOREVER, for good. I know to whom I am talking now. And yes, nature is not after creating something noble, graceful, intelligent, reaching to the stars. A wretched race that subjugates everybody else through deceit and brutality would do. Then wait for an asteroid to hit Earth. Or hang your hopes on Jewish achievement. Or hope that the Asian is smarter than the Arian, and that Arians were a failed experiment of nature, just intended to pave the way for the better Chinese. Hope the Asian know the Jews too well by now that they have seen the white man fall.

    Twice redpilled not fun. And nobody to talk to. Risk my mental soundness. Well, my Jewish “friends” were recommending me to go and have some fun while they are exterminating me. It won’t hurt.

  9. Ilena's Gravatar Ilena
    May 22, 2016 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

    A very related article:
    The Dreadful Kagan Clan – Hillary’s Warmonger’s in Waiting:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-22/dreadful-kagan-clan-hillarys-warmongers-waiting

  10. Curmudgeon's Gravatar Curmudgeon
    May 22, 2016 - 5:02 pm | Permalink

    “To define someone as a ‘Renegade Jew’ in a column about scheming elites written for an audience full of white nationalists is to signal to the sewers.”
    This says so much more about the “scheming elites” than the author realizes. I have met scores of Jews in my lifetime. Virtually all of them are renegades in some way, shape, or form. Maurice Samuel acknowledges this in “You Gentiles” 90 years ago. Where the word “Jew” is used, “renegade” is redundant.

    The US and other European derived countries, where we find ourselves in a struggle for survival, were created by Whites. Nationalism requires loyalty. The Jews and useful idiot White goyim who have signed on to the diversity/multicultural bandwagon, can never be nationalists. Non-Whites, other than Amerinds, by nature embrace multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is designed to create dual loyalties. If you accept dual loyalties you cannot be loyal to your race or country. As the old saying goes, a slave with two masters is truly free. The use of the term White nationalist more than implies White supremacist, thus “signal the sewers”. The statement is openly anti-White, because the neocons know all about dual loyalty. It frees them to deceive, and it frees the multi-culti Whites from thinking about the disastrous consequences of their actions.

    I have asked people who are “conservative” multi-culti fans what they find offensive about Trump’s statements. The usual media mantra supplies the answers. When I ask what is so offensive about saying you are going to apply the existing immigration laws?, blank looks begin to appear. When I state xenophobia is an irrational fear of foreigners, and ask what is irrational about stopping any group, with a track record of internal attacks, from entering your country until you can figure out what is going on?, more blank looks. No hope of nationalism there, a country’s best interests can’t get in the way of their emotions.

    • May 23, 2016 - 4:49 am | Permalink

      I think some Jews would say: “You claim ‘your’ country was created by whites. In fact, our money, under our wise direction, built everything.” (I first noticed this argument in Hilaire Belloc; he quoted some Jew as saying ‘cathedrals were built with our money’).

  11. Greekman's Gravatar Greekman
    May 22, 2016 - 2:30 pm | Permalink

    On the subject of Jewish people, I’ve noticed something with the secular Jews. Secular Jews such as Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein, reject the idea that Jewish people hold a great amount of influence and power that is disproportionate to the Jewish population. When it comes to Israel, coincidentally, Noam claims that it is not the Jews in Israel that’re responsible for the oppression and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, but it is the US, and the American tax payers fault. Noam and Norman peddle the idea that we (the US) use Israel to protect our “oil interests” and that’s why we support them. They reject the Neo-Con influence notion (Noam claims to love facts, but when it comes to questions relating to Jews, suddenly, he opts for blurring the lines). The game being played is obvious. They don’t want the actions of the Jews in Israel to reflect badly on the entire Jewish collective, so in this way, Noam and Normal are looking out for the tribe. I know this is inherently irrelevant to this article, but I truly believe more attention needs to be paid to people like Noam and Normal, as they’re praisedas being “great” intellectuals and what Noam says is law for some people. Kevin, perhaps you could do an analysis of how secular Jews attempt to divert attention from Jewish wrongdoing and how they attempt to switch the blame unto others. I know you’ve wrote tons and tons of work on the analysis of Jewish wrongdoing being pinned on others, but the secular Jews, in my opinion, play a very different game than what is normally talked about.

    • Greekman's Gravatar Greekman
      May 22, 2016 - 2:37 pm | Permalink

      http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/50260/qa-noam-chomsky (Interview where Noam attempts to pin the crimes of Israel on the US and the American tax payers)

      http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/102054/qa-norman-finkelstein (Intevirew where Norman mocks the Neo-Conservative influence idea)

      Noam and Norman attempt to “debunk” the Jewish Neo-Con ideas but they do nothing of the sort.

    • FKA Max's Gravatar FKA Max
      May 22, 2016 - 3:33 pm | Permalink

      Greekman,

      Guillaume Durocher wrote a piece on this dynamic here at TOO:
      Glenn Greenwald as Ethnic activist: The “constitutional crusader” demands lawlessness on immigration

      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/09/ethnic-activist-and-constitutional-crusader-glenn-greenwald-demands-lawlessness-on-immigration/

      This is sound moral reasoning. But there is a problem: It appears to consider the U.S. as a homogeneous mass equally “responsible” for the crimes of the U.S. government. “Us” is the U.S. as a whole. But “us” could just as easily be one’s economic class or ethnic community. Chomsky and Greenwald never think of themselves as part of an astonishingly influential Jewish elite which, concerning immigration, multiculturalism, and policy towards Israel, has undeniably had a critical impact. In the case of Chomsky, this ethnic blind spot is so great that he has even denied the impact of the copiously-documented Israel lobby, instead ludicrously arguing that U.S. support for Israel is grounded in imperial self-interest.

      Chomsky and Greenwald spread the blame for the evils of American foreign policy over White America as a whole, rather than restrict it to the particular ethnic and political elites responsible. There is vituperative denunciation of “Western tribalism,” “Evangelicals,” and “our” selfishness — which may all be factors — and yet complete silence on the elephant in the room that is Jewish-Zionist money and media-cultural bias. This is a blind spot Chomsky and Greenwald seem to share, even though both men are indeed highly critical of Israel.

      • Ilena's Gravatar Ilena
        May 22, 2016 - 10:39 pm | Permalink

        Same goes for Amy Goodman. She’s on par with Chomsky and Greenwald.

  12. gubbler chechenova's Gravatar gubbler chechenova
    May 22, 2016 - 12:47 pm | Permalink

    White Progs are a funny-wunny bunch.

    Even though they pontificate about equality, their world-view is predicated on white superiority or at least the herculean effort on part of whites to be superior.

    Progs are sort of like vegans.

    Vegans won’t eat meat cuz they see animals as equally precious as human lives.
    But… but… but… animals kill and eat each other all the time. Animals live by feeding on other animals. And even herbivores depend on predators because, without predators, herbivores will eat up all the plants and they will die of starvation.

    So, if vegans love animals so much and see them as equally precious to humans, why do they reject the animal way? The animal way is for animals to kill and eat animals. If vegans see animals as equal to humans, shouldn’t humans act like animals and eat meat? If animals are so wonderful, the animal way must be wonderful.

    This is where veganism gets weird. Even though veganism sees animal life as equal to human life, they believe humans must be judged by higher/superior standards. You see, animals can’t help themselves since they live by beastly instinct. They are not intellectually, morally, or spiritually capable of rising above their instinct. But humans do have such ability. So, humans must rise above instinct for meat-eating and be vegans.

    So, vegan view of animals as equal to humans is contradicted by vegan view that humans must be judged by higher standards since humans are SUPERIOR in intellect and soul.

    Same logic applies to Progs. They see non-whites as equal to whites in worth. Therefore, non-whites should be allowed to come and live in white lands without restriction. Non-whites should use white wombs to produce non-white babies.

    But Progs don’t judge non-whites for their tribalism, militarism, violence, machismo, anti-gay attitudes, infantile behavior, and etc. Even though non-whites are seen as equal to whites, they are also seen as beastly folks trapped in tradition and/or instinct and cannot break out of their natural/cultural shells. So, the moral criteria that apply to whites cannot be applied to non-whites, especially savage Negroes and reactionary Muslims.

    So, Progs say whites must see non-whites as equal but only whites must be judged by higher moral standards since only whites are intellectually, morally, and spiritually capable of higher ideas and values.

    It’s like Jesus said, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

    Well, Jesus died in a bad way. If whites wanna go that way, they can play the Prog game and forgive non-whites who destroy white civilization for ‘not knowing what they do.’

    Christian Westerns rose in power and wealth because they chose to be Forgiven than to be the Forgivers. They did badass stuff to gain power and wealth and then asked forgiveness from God and Jesus.

    Now, each Prog wants to play Jesus and forgive non-whites who are invading and raping the West.

    • L Tamburello's Gravatar L Tamburello
      May 23, 2016 - 12:21 am | Permalink

      gubbler: Excellent analogy!

  13. buckle's Gravatar buckle
    May 22, 2016 - 11:26 am | Permalink

    News reaches us from across the pond that Trump is about to be bought for a hundred million bucks. It this proves to be the case then this confirms the suspicion that he’s broke.

    I always thought the best outcome would have been a convention stitch up rather than a sell-out. I hope I’m wrong but good luck America in any event!

  14. Ilena's Gravatar Ilena
    May 22, 2016 - 10:59 am | Permalink

    If Ron Paul was running I would vote for him. But, since he’s not, I will likely vote Trump. I did vote in the Washington State primary for Trump, after seeing him at a Rally here. What sold me on Trump was exactly what Mr. MacDonald says about his views on foreign policy. And let the Neo-cons blather on, because they only make the case for Trump stronger. I know there is a chance a Trump presidency may not work out, but I am willing to give him a chance and hope at the very least he can make a large dent into the Zionist-Neo-Con-Israel-firsters agenda.
    If the Jewish-Zionists maintain their ZPC (Petras: “zionist power configuration) via their beloved but hated Hillary, they will only need 8 more years to seal the destruction they have been doing all over Europe, Middle East, America, and the Caucasus regions.

  15. Someday's Gravatar Someday
    May 22, 2016 - 10:24 am | Permalink

    Knocking over countries like Iraq and Iran does nothing for Israel, because the Jewish state’s problem is an internal one that cannot be transcended by any political arrangement.

    T]he real offense here is … his attempt to wrap him in the Star of David and to somehow brand his opponents as traitors to the pro-Israel cause.

    Let us see what the alternative to Trump is for those committed to the Jewish state of Israel over their own careerist greasy pole climbing, unlike Boot and company. http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/clinton-palestinian-state-achieved-through-negotiations-is-inevitable-1.330001 That is why the neocons and Clinton are every bit as bad for Israel as they are for America.

    The promises of support from Sheldon Adelson despite Trump rejecting basic neocon foreign policy positions on the Middle East are easily explained. Adelson understands that the democratic transcendence of Israel’s occupied territories ethnic problem, as advocated by the bipartisan US foreign policy establishment with neocon acquiescence is almost entirely ineffective at securing Israel’s future. Clinton is clearly going to intervene to keep the Middle East calculus as it is, which means no opportunity for population movements, while Israel inexorably proceeds to the denouement that John Mearsheimer has outlined. Trump is signalling that he will (1) not intervene in Arab countries to keep Israel from having to. (2) cease trying for a solution and accept an outcome whereby war leads to population movements.

    • HBM's Gravatar HBM
      May 22, 2016 - 1:00 pm | Permalink

      If you turn the countries surrounding Israel into a balkanized bloodbaths, it most certainly does do something. Perhaps foremost, it satisfies their mytho-ontological need for goyishe dupes to do their dirty work and for them to be able to keep up the appearance that they are merely observers of what those wacky goyim do. Muslims ignore Israel to slaughter one another. And also, as we’ve learned recently– and as will happen every time there is any conflict in Africa or the Middle East from here on out– Neocon-occupied Washington’s destabilization of the region sends millions of Muslims running to Europe to teach them diversity and as punishment for thousands of years of anti-Semitism and the Holocaust.

      A civil war in Europe would give Israel the moral authority to conduct its own long-desired ethnic cleansing (European Jews will howl and stoke the fires and help the Muslims in Europe even as Israel itself will defend itself by claiming just to be following Europe’s lead), or if the “Enlightened” (literally and metaphorically) Islam that is another possible outcome of an Islamified Europe comes about, paradoxically that could eventually produce the climate necessary to allow it, too. It also empties-out areas of Greater Israel for expansion.

      Assuming Trump isn’t overcome with Jewish advisers and money– and we can believe the message he appears to be telegraphing, it looks to me, for now, his plan is to tell Israel that we won’t be giving them any more money because they are rich and powerful enough without us, and that they can do what they want as long as we aren’t involved. This alone is enough to begin Jewish howling about “fascism”, as it means Jews would have to fight their own battles and face the consequences of the things they do.

      • Someday's Gravatar Someday
        May 23, 2016 - 11:04 am | Permalink

        Israel is consolidating, the border with Jordan is so peaceful that it is where they send women soldiers to serve, but inside Greater Israel there is an internal border along the 1949 Armistice Line which has the Israeli West Bank barrier along it because of the unassailable Arabs. I don’t think there is any appetite for further conquest, which would merely add to the problem of the West Bank.

        The wall shows that they are concerned to keep what they already have rather that expand and have to deal with millions more Arabs who hate their guts.

        If Israel is allowed to solve its problem, Europe may be allowed to do the same.

    • Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
      May 22, 2016 - 5:56 pm | Permalink

      @ Someday:
      Are you saying that Trump will acquiesce to a mass expulsion/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Israel?

      • L Tamburello's Gravatar L Tamburello
        May 23, 2016 - 12:12 am | Permalink

        Trenchant:
        “population movements” could very well mean stopping Israel’s current land grabs in Palestine and perhaps begin the reversal of her near total confiscation of that land and complete eradication of the Palestinian people by the residents of the Middle East themselves. Stopping or at least significantly reducing American aid to one side of the equation would do wonders for that scenario to develop.

      • Luke's Gravatar Luke
        May 23, 2016 - 12:55 am | Permalink

        Well, if you need a clue as to what Trump might think about the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, just remember what he said to the audience full of jews when he gave his nauseating speech to AIPAC.

        He said he would move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Which symbolically represents the US endorsement of Jerusalem as being officially recognized as the capital of Israel. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe that the original UN mandate specified joint ownership of Jerusalem between the Israelis and the Palestinians, since this particular city holds deep rooted, historical and religious significance to both sides of the argument.

        So, in essence – promising to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem is effectively giving the Middle Finger to the Palestinians.

      • Someday's Gravatar Someday
        May 23, 2016 - 5:03 am | Permalink

        Trump is against intervention in the Middle East,, and yet he is being backed by Adelson. There must be a reason. Right now the US is moving heaven and earth to halt a radical Sunni overthrow of ME states ruled by family dictatorships, Clinton would continue that policy. However, If ISIS or something like it was able to control Jordan, an Israeli intervention and revolt of the Arabs in the West Bank is likely to follow. There is no such thing as a limited liability war.

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