Lee Siegel: The Horror of Implicit Whiteness

Kevin MacDonald

Lee Siegel

At TOO we often use the phrase “hostile elite” to describe our new, predominantly Jewish elite that has become ensconced in all the media high ground in America. Examples are legion, but it is hard to imagine a more blatant recent example of fear and loathing of White America than Lee Siegel’s “What’s race got to do with it?” (Well, maybe Rabbi Hammerman’s outburst against Tim Tebow comes close.) Published in the most mainstream of the mainstream media, the New York Times, Siegel is horrified by Romney’s Whiteness:

 The simple, impolitely stated fact is that Mitt Romney is the whitest white man to run for president in recent memory. Of course, I’m not talking about a strict count of melanin density. I’m referring to the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he telegraphs to a certain type of voter that he is the cultural alternative to America’s first black president. It is a whiteness grounded in a retro vision of the country, one of white picket fences and stay-at-home moms and fathers unashamed of working hard for corporate America.

Mitt Romney the candidate of implicit Whiteness.


Romney reminds Siegel of the bad old 1950s when White people like Romney ran the country and supported Joe McCarthy, worked hard and had lots of babies. The new elite hates the old America with a passion. Here’s the photo accompanying Siegel’s piece:

NYTimes caption: Mitt Romney, a Republican presidential candidate, with his extended family in 2007.

Way too many White people. Good looking, healthy, rich White people. It’s enough to make a Jewish writer think pogroms and expulsions. Siegel longs for the day when the power of Whites is way less than it is now–when Whites don’t have the clout to matter much in presidential elections.

White America is retro. Obama is the personification of the new America. And the only trait that matters is that he is non-White.

On the other hand, retro America is racist to the core, and Romney’s Mormons  are a “bastion of pre-civil-rights-America whiteness.”

Yes, since 1978 the church has allowed blacks to become priests [the link directs the reader to the LDS home page which features Jesus with non-White children]. But Mormonism is still imagined by its adherents as a religion founded by whites, for whites, rooted in a millenarian vision of an America destined to fulfill a white God’s plans for earth.

Sort of like Judaism as imagined by its adherents: founded by Jews, for Jews, and rooted in a millenarian vision of America and the rest of the world as destined to fulfill a Jewish G-d’s plans for His favorite (Chosen) people.

Siegel hates everything White, down to clean shirts. To be authentically White is to be overly clean, robotic, insincere, bland, sentimentally patriotic, and living in the time warp of small-town America—the bogeyman of two generations of Jewish intellectuals—and to believe that the Founding Fathers (those dead White guys who established the hopelessly evil White America before it was redefined by our hostile elite) may have had some good ideas that should inform how we do things in the contemporary US:

 Mr. Romney’s meticulously cultivated whiteness. He is nearly always in immaculate white shirt sleeves. He is implacably polite, tossing off phrases like “oh gosh” with Stepford bonhomie. He has mastered Benjamin Franklin’s honesty as the “best policy”: a practiced insincerity, an instant sunniness that, though evidently inauthentic, provides a bland bass note that keeps everyone calm. This is the bygone world of Babbitt, of small-town Rotarians.

Mr. Romney does not merely use the past as an inspirational reference point, as the other candidates often do. He conjures it as a total social, cultural and political experience that must be resurrected and reinhabited. He speaks of the founding fathers and the Declaration of Independence as phases of national creativity that we are destined to live through again. He frequently accompanies his recitative with verses from “America the Beautiful.”

Siegel as exemplar of the new hostile elite still fears the old America. But despite all the best efforts of Siegel and his ilk, he understands that the beast has not been slain–yet. He claims that had it not been for the economic calamity that occurred right before the 2008 election, McCain would have been president (probably true). And it could happen again:

Whether he means to or not, Mr. Romney connects with a central evangelic fantasy [nothing terrifies serious Jews quite like serious Christians]: that the Barack Obama years, far from being the way forward, are in fact a historical aberration, a tear in the white space-time continuum. And let’s be clear: Mr. Obama’s election was not destiny, but a fluke. …

[Romney is] the white solution to the problem of a black president. I am sure that Mr. Romney is not a racist. But I am also sure that, for the many Americans who find the thought of a black president unbearable, he is an ideal candidate. For these sudden outsiders, Mitt Romney is the conventional man with the outsider faith — an apocalyptic pragmatist — who will wrest the country back from the unconventional man with the intolerable outsider color.

I do think there is a lot of implicit Whiteness going on in this campaign, but the most noticeable thing so far is the lack of enthusiasm for Romney among the Republican base. Indeed, in a previous blog, I wrote

I also suspect that the lack of enthusiasm Republicans have with Mitt Romney is precisely because they don’t sense that he is an implicitly White candidate but rather someone who is finding the best way to get elected and who will then carry on the dissolution of White America under the banner of the Republican Party. (And the flag of Israel…)

Siegel is probably right that once Romney becomes the candidate, there will indeed be a great many Whites who see him as the White alternative to the candidate who is very much favored by the hostile elite. Nothing wrong with that. If only White voters voted for a White candidate the way Blacks (95%) or even Jews (83%) vote for Obama.

Not living in the New York-Hollywood culture machine, I was unfamiliar with Siegel. Looking him up on Wikipedia is revealing. Siegel’s page looks like it was written by his press agent, or better yet, by himself given that in the past he has apparently written glowing anonymous comments about his writing. The page features flattering comments by The New York Times Magazine  (“one of the most eloquent and acid-tongued critics in the country”) and The New York Times Book Review (his “drive-by brilliance”). There are also lavish compliments from other Jews, David Rieff and Janet Malcolm.  Siegel lives is at the very pinnacle of culture production, writing for the elite media (The New York Times, The New Republic, Harper’s Magazine, The Atlantic Monthly).

The terrifying thing is that in that world, his attitudes about White America are definitely an asset.

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177 Comments to "Lee Siegel: The Horror of Implicit Whiteness"

  1. allovertheplace's Gravatar allovertheplace
    January 26, 2012 - 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Nice commentaryFenria, Anon, Luke, Jeb, Armor, Marcus.

  2. TabuLa Raza's Gravatar TabuLa Raza
    January 24, 2012 - 2:54 pm | Permalink

    All races the same? Then all members of a race should also be the same. Everyone should be a clone of everyone else, with an IQ of 100.00. But wait, no sexual differences allowed. Everyone should have the same thoughts. But. . . There is a place of complete equality of results: cemetery. Entropy.

    I can argue that egalitarianism is evil, and vice-versa, and that this the the female principle. Life feeds on differentiation/inequality.

  3. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 8:24 pm | Permalink

    What I believe to be a healthy religious outlook has been best summarized by writer James Allen in the classic (almost 100 years ago) As A Man Thinketh

    And this is ALL that I will have to say on religion! :)

  4. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Here is a “neutral” site giving general and unbiased information on Calvin and Calvinism:

    History Learning Site — John Calvin

  5. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 7:48 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: Perhaps the multicultural dogma is like alcohol — a poison that, at the first, produces more pleasure than pain. After all, it would be pleasant if all races were totally and radically the same and if everyone could live in perfect harmony and love. These ideas sound so pleasant, so agreeable, to the average White, that the “freedom” and “equality” that Jews promise us is difficult to argue against. Most people do not have the ability to look far down the road to consider the most likely destination.

    The most dangerous thing is a half-truth — far more destructive than an outright lie. On the surface, liberalism sounds wonderful — until one discovers that the true motives which underlie it are concealed and that the final picture isn’t so pretty.

  6. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    January 21, 2012 - 7:22 pm | Permalink

    I spelled Lee Siegel’s name incorrectly above. Not that it matters.

  7. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 6:57 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Here are a few other opinion pieces I found using a search engine:

    Calvinism and Mental Health – Have you been exposed?

    John Calvin — an outline biography

    Finally, as an antidote, here is Shiller’s “Ode to Joy”!

    Schiller’s Ode to Joy (first translation)

    Ode to Joy (Schiller) — Original German side by side with faithful English translation

    Now this attitude fosters mental health. Beethoven set much of this verse to music in his 9th Symphony.

  8. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    January 21, 2012 - 6:54 pm | Permalink

    I have just noticed I accidentally posted an early version of my contribution on Seigel’s publicity piece on Romney. I copied a draft by mistake. (I write in Word because I can see more of the page and then I copy it over to the comments section.) Whoops.

    Here is the finished version I should have posted:

    Bill Moyers: “As one of my mentors said, News is what people want to keep hidden; everything else is publicity.”

    My point?

    Lee Seigel is a paid propagandist writing junk designed to manipulate us. He deliberately ignores real news and instead plays his part in our elaborate deception by playing a bad guy in the black comedy, “American Politics” we all suffer through almost continuously now because it’s a good way for some greedy people to make a lot of money.

    Our outraged reaction to his hubris and racist conceit was the intended purpose of the article he scribbled. We’re supposed to dislike him and his low voltage racism. That’s how he and his handlers have decided they can best push certain citizens into Romney’s corner in this sham election that was decided months if not years ago – an election that will be tabulated by suspect and secret computer programs installed in hackable Diebold and similar machines, I might add…

    Others posting here have already brought up Romney’s preference for placing Jews in critical positions within his election campaign staff and as his advisors on almost everything important.

    Seigel’s article is designed to support the narrative that Romney is the last “Great White Hope” for the embattled, threatened white citizens of the United States of America, when in fact, he’s just another interchangeable, rich, greedy, suave, smooth (even greasy), snake oil salesman enamored with the sound of his own voice and willing to do anything to anybody if it will make him President of the United States of America.

    He was bought and paid for by the enemies of America years ago or he wouldn’t be the Republican front runner in this ridiculous primeval farce Americans call “an election cycle”.

    Romney is as much their “boy” as Obama is.

    Lee Seigel is doing his job – fooling us into thinking black is white, up is down, in is out.

    The fact is: Romney is no friend to anyone who respects Professor MacDonald’s courage and/or perspective, no matter how negatively Lee Seigel paints Romney and his family for the effrontery of being mythically white in this article designed to hide Truth ie NEWS from us all.

  9. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 6:32 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Here’s a brief summary:

    John Calvin

    For a detailed study (don’t do this unless you really need to!), read “The Other Side of Calvinism” by Dr. Laurence M. Vance.

    If a Jew were really daring and audacious, he’d make a vivid motion picture about the take-over and subsequent career of John Calvin in Geneva, Switzerland. It would make a great, blood-curdling horror film about tyranny and astonishing human cruelty. But I suppose this would detract from the image of Hitler as the supreme evil man of all time?

  10. arthurdecco's Gravatar arthurdecco
    January 21, 2012 - 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Bill Moyers: “As one of my mentors said, News is what people want to keep hidden; everything else is publicity.”

    My point?

    Lee Seigel is a paid propagandist writing junk designed to manipulate us. He deliberately ignores real news and instead plays his part in our elaborate deception by playing a “bad guy” in this black comedy we call American Politics.

    Our outraged reaction to his hubris and racist conceit was the intended purpose of the article he scribbled. We’re supposed to dislike him and his low voltage racism. That’s how he and his handlers have decided they can best push certain citizens into Romney’s corner in this sham election that was decided months if not years ago – an election that will be tabulated by suspect and secret computer programs installed in hackable Diebold and similar machines, I might add…

    Others posting here have already brought up Romney’s preference for placing Jews in critical positions within his election campaign staff and as his advisers on almost everything important.

    This article is designed to take our eyes off those balls and, additionally, to support a narrative that Romney is the last “Great White Hope” for the embattled, threatened white citizens of the United States of America, when in fact, he’s just another interchangeable, rich, greedy, suave, smooth (even greasy), snake oil salesman enamored with the sound of his own voice and willing to do anything to anybody if it will make him President of the United States of America.

    He was bought and paid for by the enemies of America years ago or he wouldn’t be the Republican front runner in this ridiculous farce Americans still call “an election cycle”. Romney is as much their ‘boy’ as Obomber is.

    Lee Seigel is doing his job – fooling us into thinking black is white, up is down, in is out.

    Although I bet you won’t be reading an article written by Lee Seigel for the New York Times explaining any of this 2 U, will ya?

  11. Doug's Gravatar Doug
    January 21, 2012 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay: Wrong, Sanjay. Romney is doing what he has to do to be elected, but he is not a Jewish mouthpiece – I hope!

  12. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 21, 2012 - 1:33 pm | Permalink


    That doesn’t explain why the Whites of both countries don’t fight back or defend themselves from African savagery.

  13. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 21, 2012 - 12:54 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: My fear is that we won’t get to the point of eating rats, at least for several generations. Even though we are being flooded with low IQ Mestizos and Third World people, there are still enough Whites (and Asians) to keep the system working.

    But, Whites may be outvoted at the national level soon. If 10 to 15 million Mestizos are added to voting rolls with amnesty, along with other demographic changes, it may get almost impossible for Whites to win Presidency. This may have a psychological impact. It’s important for Whites (especially conservative Whites) to realize this is not a “battle of ideas”, in which they convince Jews, Mestizos and Blacks that their ideals of small government and self-reliance are grand! Rather, it is an ethnic and racial conflict. The sooner Whites see the hopelessness of “conservatism”, the quicker we can move on.

    Right now, the professional conservative pundits are more race-stupid than the Left.

  14. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 21, 2012 - 11:05 am | Permalink

    @Jason Speaks: Well, Dr. Pierce used to say that he thought that whites were so stupid and blind and clueless that they would have to be reduced to the level of fighting with rats and maggots for the scraps of moldy and fungus covered food in the bottoms of dirty, bacterial and cockroach infested garbage cans, and be covered with oozing, gnat infested sores on their bodies, before they would finally be forced to wake up and remove their heads from their nether regions and decide it was time to fight back.

    I always got pretty depressed and dispirited whenever Dr. Pierce would repeat that prediction, but based on my own experience with hard-headed white numbskulls who’ve been deracinated by the jewish enemy, I am afraid that maybe Dr. Pierce was right.

  15. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 21, 2012 - 5:32 am | Permalink

    @Luke: I think you should get more White people on your side, then you can discuss strategy, because the more people that support you, the more options you have. Alone, you have virtually no options.

    I’m not a babystep-ist. If you have a magic amulet that will return White countries to their former selves, say 50 years ago, then please use it. However, I’m not into “White Nationalism” as some form of street theater done for fun or to show off. Nor am I end to just going out in a blaze of glory for the heck of it. Right now, the numbers are just not there to do anything.

    I don’t know how to grow the numbers. I think a message has to be crafted that is solid, firm and healthy (from a White perspective).

  16. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 5:19 am | Permalink

    This is especially for Dr. Mac:

    Calvin would certainly have condemned Darwin as a “free-thinker,” a “heretic,” a “blasphemer,” and who knows what else! He would have wished to have the man burned at the stake, if this were in his power — along with burning his books in the hope of eliminating them from the Earth; and through all this, Calvin’s doctrine would be maintaining and insisting that Calvin’s “God” had predestined Darwin to write his books and publish them!

  17. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 21, 2012 - 12:37 am | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: Excellent point. A certain Monsieur Castellion put the following question to Calvin, who had falsely accused him of stealing firewood:

    “Let us assume that the charge is true, and that I really stole wood because I, in the terms of your doctrine, was predestined to do so. Why should you revile me on that account? Should you not rather have compassion on me because God foreordained me to such a fate, and therefore made it impossible that I should not steal? If that be so, why should you fill the heavens with outcries and denunciations? To prevent my stealing any more? But if I am a thief because of divine predestination, you must in your writings acquit me of blame, since I act under coercion. On your own showing I could as little refrain from theft as, by taking thought, add a cubit to my stature.”

  18. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    January 20, 2012 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: I support you!

  19. Bejamen Castro's Gravatar Bejamen Castro
    January 20, 2012 - 7:49 pm | Permalink

    @Hedgerow: Where else but white countries people were so morally degraded that jew can openly steal, torture, butcher tens of millions , assasi-nate on industrial scale, extract absolutely unimaginable fortunes, destroy cultures and religions – everything in open-without any repercusions to themselves, always finding people-scapegoat, and eliminating it. This is tens (or 100’s) of millions tribe with special gift of sadism, masochism, bloodthirsty chameleon ability to camouflage, and to instill everything negative to any host people.

  20. A Swain's Gravatar A Swain
    January 20, 2012 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    January 19, 2012 – 12:32 am

    “It has always amazed me about the Jews that they can steer an agenda through centuries of time. How the hell is that even possible? “

    It’s pure hate, loathing and revenge-seeking against one’s perceived enemy or enemies that enables such steering of an agenda through centuries of time.

    Muslims embody the same hate, loathing and revenge-seeking against the other or others which is the reason for their particular enduring and unremitting centuries long agenda too.

    For example, Saudi Arabian Wahabism is actually Jewish inspired, not Muslim. (Take a look at the mutual relationship between the Zionist Ashkenazi-controlled West and the Saudis for a greater understanding of the Jew/Sunni agenda, and their twin designs against Shiite Iran as just one aligned example of intended eventual total global domination by both).

    The solution is, of course, to unleash their own tactics upon themselves with ruthless resolve and absolute relish whilst simultaneously working to rid one’s population of traitorous blood brethren and their supportive alien breeds.

  21. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    January 20, 2012 - 5:51 pm | Permalink

    @Adeimantus: Another proposition that the calvinists cannot answer is this:
    If Calvinism is correct, and we have no free will, it is immaterial if we believe it or not, and whatever we do or say matters not.
    If it is wrong, and we have free will, it does matter. Therefore, it only logically follows we should try to exercise our free will in case we actually possess it!

  22. anon's Gravatar anon
    January 20, 2012 - 3:28 pm | Permalink

    “They will accept their own destruction, as they did in Zimbabwe and South Africa, as they’re doing in Europe.”

    Zimbabwe and South Africa were destroyed because of America’s superpower status being used a a golem. If the Jew’s golem is destroyed the game changes. They will destroy their golem themselves because it is their nature.

  23. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 20, 2012 - 12:46 pm | Permalink

    @Joe Webb: Whites have approximately 31 years left, before our #1 enemy succeeds in reducing us to a racial minority inside our own historic homelands.

    What I am looking for, Mr. Webb, is an end to this habit of taking baby steps in the direction of saving our race and our civilization. Those who insist upon taking baby steps, from all outward appearances, do so because they are terrified of offending, or of raising the ire of, a hate filled enemy who openly lusts for the extinction of White European people.

    I compare this approach to a boxing match where one of the two boxers is so terrified of his opponent that he expends nearly all of his physical energy dancing around the ring trying to duck and avoid being punched, then if an opportunity arises where his opponent’s chin becomes a clear and inviting target – the cowardly fighter will first ask for permission to connect his fist to the jaw of his enemy.
    In otherwords, I don’t believe in playing defense. I believe in going on the offense and taking the fight directly to the enemy. In our case, time is not on our side and therefore there is a certain urgency which all of us should recognize and clearly understand. This does not mean that we should throw all caution to the wind and act foolishly; quite the opposite. Our side should study the enemy, learn where they are weak and then go for the jugular.

    As opposed to tapping them on their ankles with a twig. I want to see some crushing body blows on the opponent, Mr. Webb. I want to hear and feel rib bones snap under the impact of those body blows. I want to hear this enemy say ‘ouch’, that hurts.

    Who’s with me?

  24. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 20, 2012 - 12:11 pm | Permalink

    @wattylersrevolt: For those of us who’ve spent any amount of their free time watching football – there is a strategy known as ‘running out the clock’.

    This is what Steve Sailer is attempting to do; keep those racially wake, and racially concerned Whites distracted by constantly shoveling mountains of mindless and useless statistics at them under the guise of pro-white commentary, but all that is supposed to accomplish is to keep Whites preoccupied with nonsense that in no way helps ensure the survival of their race and a future for white children. How many years has Vdare and AmRen been online and pushing this same agenda and following this approach? Has there been one iota of discernible, concrete progress accomplished by it that anyone can point to at the national level? Have Whites by the millions stopped apologizing for being White and have Whites by the millions stopped calling each other ‘racists’ if a legitimate and unapologetic pro-white spokesman or woman stands up and declares that Whites have legitimate, perfectly justified ethnic specific interests and that Whites are under no obligation to stand by and allow their race to be reduced to minority status inside their own native homelands and then hold up copies of Steve Sailer or Jared Taylor’s articles or books as the justification for their beliefs?

    Answer: Not that I’ve noticed.

    Observe the troll who calls himself ‘WP Tepes’ inserting criticism of my reflections on the ineffective approach being used by Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow and Pat Buchanan. Pointing out that this wing of the supposed pro-white community are either naively or deliberately wasting time, and helping our enemy run out the clock by steering the focus of their followers down non-productive, dead end roads that bear absolutely no edible fruit.

    Perhaps this is the consequence of a pro-white individual seeing through the various schemes and tactics of the enemy and then sharing his vision with his fellow pro-white community? We get insulted by enemy moles who come to pro-white websites and post comments that are designed to cast suspicions and aspersions upon those of us who are reading the laces on those jewish fastballs.

    Too strindent, indeed, Mr. WP Tepes.

  25. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 20, 2012 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:

    Thanks for your comment, Mr. de Craon. I’ve mentioned it before, and I’ve seen others mention it; you’re ability to express yourself is very admirable. You’re blessed in that way. I’m thankful you use that talent for good purposes.

    When it comes to history, I’m relatively uninformed. Whatever I learned in school is probably buried deep in my mind and muddied by other stuff.

    Your comment, along with giving me an important historical perspective regarding the issue of church and state, gave me a beautiful, hopeful thought, a little moment of heaven. I imagined how beautiful a Christian state could be; one in which its members really love God and each other. Every moment in that Christian state is beautiful like a sunset or sunrise with a gentle, cool breeze. Of course in my mind this Christian state is White. It’s a thought similar to ones I’ve had before, but your comment gave me hope that it can be a reality somewhere someday.

  26. Bannister's Gravatar Bannister
    January 20, 2012 - 12:44 am | Permalink

    @fender: Ya, he doesn’t really look Jewish, but when you watch a a video of him he turns into George Costanza from Seinfeld!

  27. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 19, 2012 - 7:57 pm | Permalink

    @Celtic_Heathen: Sir, read the quotes’ sources again, read the Constitution again, read the Articles of Confederation again, and most of all, read further in the huge mass of documentary material—formal writings as well as correspondence—created by the movers and shakers of the Revolutionary and Federalist epochs. The only ”separation of church and state” that interested them was that involving the relationship of the new central government of the confederation of free and still almost completely independent countries, or states, and those free states themselves.

    At the time the quoted statements were written, almost every single state had its own “establishment of religion”—which is nothing more than another way of saying “established church” [Christian, of course]—and the Jefferson and Madison statements that you quote (with a misunderstanding of their true intent) were nothing more nor less than assurances that it was the intention of the federalizers never, ever, to allow differences of opinion among Protestants to lead to a repetition of the English Civil Wars or of Calvin’s campaign of human torchings and somewhat less brutal forms of murder aimed at literally everyone who disagreed with him. Not coincidentally, neither TJ nor JM ever expressed the slightest displeasure with the legislatures of Virginia, Connecticut, Massachusetts, or any other state for establishing a church of their choice. (I haven’t checked my sources, but I believe that Massachusetts was the last state to disestablish a church, the Congregational Church, and that was only in the 1830s.)

    Think for a moment about the opening words of the First Amendment: “Congress [i.e., not a state government or legislature] shall make no law respecting [i.e., with regard to] an establishment of religion. . . .” The wording is precise. Note especially that it makes no attempt to limit or otherwise regulate a state’s right to designate or not designate an established church. Nor does it deny or abridge the Congress’s authority to make laws regarding religion that concern matters other than establishment (of course, it doesn’t encourage the Congress to make any such laws either). The language employed is legal because the matter is legal, not social or even for the most part religious!

    I wish it understood that I am not suggesting that you are deliberately twisting the plain intent of the Framers and others. The “twisting” has been taking place in American education, both public and private, for almost a century. My parents, whose secondary schooling was completed by 1930, both knew what the language of the amendment meant because that is how they were taught to understand it. By the time my older brother and sister finished high school (1950 and 1951), however, the new, improved, Judaically influenced “meaning” of “separation” was the only one taught anywhere in this country outside the occasional graduate seminar, where presumably those in the know agreed not to upset the apple cart. This wholesale rewriting through “reinterpretation” of both the Constitution and the documentable facts of early American history was as much a facet of the culture of critique as the “nation of immigrants” and “proposition nation” rubbish that today only Nazis, white supremacists, and other haters contest. (I suppose those categories include me, you, and most other TOO columnists and commenters.)

  28. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 19, 2012 - 7:54 pm | Permalink

    @Celtic_Heathen: Yes, of course. I agree 100% My words against Calvinism were intended as a warning against Theocracy, even though I may not have stated that explicitly. For the record, I am totally and unequivocally in favor of separation of church and state. I make no demands of religious or theological allegiance to anyone supporting white nationalism. Be an Atheist, a Buddhist, or anything you like — just do not be a religious fanatic or a zealot! In my opinion, religious zealots, such as Calvin (or any other cult leader), have no place in mainstream politics — including “mainstream” White Advocacy!

  29. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 19, 2012 - 4:37 pm | Permalink


    Christianity is contradictory because the Bible was written over the course of many years by many different people. Parts were added in, parts were deleted, parts were changed. Trying to come up with a coherent message when it comes to national or political matters is quite futile. If I had my way our Bible would be The Republic, The Iliad, or Thus Spoke Zarathrustra.

  30. Jeannon Kralj's Gravatar Jeannon Kralj
    January 19, 2012 - 4:26 pm | Permalink


    Well, George, I am a Catholic so I am not the greatest expert in the bible or biblical apologetics, but I will give this a shot.

    First of all, suggest you read

    The Erroneous Teachings of “Catholics for Israel”


    Robert Sungenis

    There are very few Catholics who know how to properly interpret the bible and correctly understand Christ and the Jews, but Dr. Sungenis is one of them.

    Here is the pertinent part of that document…

    CFI (Catholics for Israel) said…
    CFI: affirm the Church’s faith that Israel’s calling, destiny and salvation can only be accomplished in union with Jesus, Messiah of Israel and King of the Jews, who was sent first and foremost to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Mat 15:24) and wept over Jerusalem’s rejection of Him (Luke 19:41), and that union with Jesus is most fully attained in the Catholic Church.

    R. Sungenis: If the author is implying by his grammar that Israel has a special calling and destiny over and above the Gentiles or any other race or ethnic group on earth, and that this special calling and destiny is to be accomplished as a solitary blessing for Israel, he is not teaching Catholic truth. In the New Testament, Israel’s calling and destiny does not begin anew, making Israel the pinnacle of God’s work, when the Jews accept Christ as Messiah. Rather, the Jews are assimilated into the Catholic Church and become its ordinary members just as everyone else in the world who joins the Catholic Church. There is no special place or extra divine blessing in being Jewish or being a convert who is Jewish. If anything, the Jews should more fittingly assume a posture of humility when they join the Catholic Church considering that their ancestors killed the Messiah and disbelieved and ridiculed his Church for the past 20 centuries.

    I would add that the New Testament seems to indicate in about three verses that, BEFORE CHRIST’S RESURRECTION, the gospel was FIRST to be preached to the Jews. (Romans 1:16). (Another thing to consider is that like 99 percent of the people around Jesus in His time were Jews so it is natural to preach the gospel to them first.)

    The important thing to remember is that Jesus did heal that woman. The gospel is for all. This woman sort of seemed to receive the overflowing extra grace of the gospel at that time when it was mainly being preached to and for the Jews before the resurrection.

    On the one hand, St. Paul clearly says that because he, a Jew, received salvation in Jesus Christ, then it can be concluded that “God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew” (Romans 11:1-2). But we must immediately add that Paul is not saying that God’s openness to the Jew is because of his Jewish heritage, that is, God does not save him because of his national, ethnic or religious standing as a Jew. The New Testament is clear that, in regards to national, ethnic or religious identity, the Jew is no more favored than anyone else in the world, since God is no respecter of persons (Romans 2:11, 28-29; Galatians 3:28-29; Acts 10:34-35; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 3:25; 1Peter 1:17). In fact, as a national, ethnic and religious entity, it can safely be said that God, indeed, rejects the Jews. Legally or covenantally, He replaced them with the Catholic Church, an entity which now includes both converted Jews and Gentiles. As such, all the national, ethnic, and religious privileges and distinctions the Jews had in the Old Testament were terminated when the Catholic Church superseded Israel as God’s official ambassador on earth.

  31. Celtic_Heathen's Gravatar Celtic_Heathen
    January 19, 2012 - 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Once again this is turning into a Theological debate and ultimately obfuscating the bigger picture. The plight of Christianity and that of White people as a whole are NOT mutually inclusive and in fact, it only turns away many potential supporters, particularly among the younger generations who are so vital to our victory.

    I implore you all to remember that the Founding Fathers of the USA explicitly advocated a Constitutional Republic, with complete separation of Church and State, NOT a Christian Theocracy.

    Remember the following quotes:

    “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
    ~Thomas Jefferson, as President, in a letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802

    “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.”
    ~James Madison

  32. George's Gravatar George
    January 19, 2012 - 3:31 pm | Permalink

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galations 3:28″
    If therefore Christianity is for “all the people of the world” as this seems to imply, why then does Jesus himself say in Matthew chapter 15:24 (speaking here about the Canaanite woman – that is, a non-Jew- who wanted help for her demon posessed daughter) ” I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”? He is here clearly stating that his ministry applies to Jews and only to Jews, even if he did relent and allow the Canaanite woman’s daughter to be cured of her demon possession.

  33. Jeb's Gravatar Jeb
    January 19, 2012 - 2:18 pm | Permalink

    I have come to see “rabbis” as mere shamans of a tribal religion. These hostile Jews will have less power over you when you realize how shallow their legitimacy is.

    The arrogance of the Jewish shaman Fischer (who rails at Europe yet probably has pilfered God knows how much White DNA) is really amazing.

    Jews it seems never ask “Why are we hated”? Their only response is that “we are always right”.

    It is plain to anyone who has read history and knows anything of human nature that Jews have been booted out of countries not because they are these great and holy people, but for the simple reason that they have made themselves odious to their hosts.

    The line about European crops being sprinkled with Jewish blood borders on self-parody. Not only is this a hateful blood libel against Whites that would never be allowed in this country against Jews, but since when have Jews done a task like farming? Jews are money lenders, not farmers. Only recently in modern Israel has this changed. Jews in Europe were killed and sent out for the same reason Jews in Arabia were killed and sent out. What Jewish madman today is railing at the Arabs “our blood is on your crops”? What a sick joke!

    It is, as many posters here have noted, a case of parasitism. They hate us truly but they don’t want to be away from Whites. Whatever it is, genetics or something, we have what they want.

    I wish to God they’d move to Israel and leave us alone, taking with them their third world baggage they claim to love. As for Israel’s size, who cares? Not a White problem. Let them duke it out with their Semitic cousins. We’ll see who the real “anti-Semite” is.

  34. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2012 - 2:15 pm | Permalink


    I want to apologize for taking up space to clarify something I wrote earlier.

    That’s my idea of heaven — a community of beautiful White people serving God, always joyful and peaceful, expressing their love in many different beautiful ways.

    When I wrote “expressing their love”, I was not referring to anything sexual, or homosexual. Homosexual activists and their supporters often talk about homosexual behavior as just another expression of love or something like that. I think homosexual behavior is wrong, and I’m opposed to the homosexual agenda.

    I’m not bringing this up to insult any members of this community who might consider themselves homosexual or “gay”; I just felt a strong need to clarify that point.

    Again, please forgive me for taking up more space.

  35. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2012 - 1:57 pm | Permalink

    @Jeannon Kralj:

    I appreciate the clarification, encouragement, and kindness in your response to my comment.

  36. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 19, 2012 - 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Welll….. true Christianity is Not the OT. Thus Judeo-Christian tradition is a misnomer. True Christianity is the NT, per the Catholics.

    However, we are stuck with the Protestant churches that went back to the OT during the Reformation. Since we are stuck with it, endless denunciations of “Christianity as Jewish” is way off the mark. However, since our Protestant kin, many of them. hang onto the jews like nicotine , so we just have to let the drug run its course….as the cliche goes in drug rehab, one just has to hit bottom before one can turn around, if ever. Bottom might be world war 3 for the jews.

    As for a True Christian Community where there is neither Greek nor Jew, etc. some folks can hang onto this myth but it runs 100% against sociobiology and its claims about the way all animals behave. It really is Darwin, OR, God, although some religious folks manage to conceive of God’s Plan including Evolution per Darwin. If and when so, we are safely in Natural Selection territory.

    You may recall that the Greek nor Jew thing was the Macabbees’ fanatic and murderous genocidal attack on jews who were getting too close to Aristotle and Company.

    The Jews are still here and Aristotle is fighting a rear-guard action in the few universities that have not succumbed to the jews , multi-racialists, and anti-fas.

    IF we are not Darwinian, we are nothing. And that does not mean Survival of the Fittest Individual. It means survival of the Fittest Group/Race. If your Christianity invites Blacks and Browns and Jews to lie down with us lambs, you are on the wrong list. White Nationalism means a fighting spirit to separate from the untermenschen.

    Jews know this, but for themselves, their group survival strategy is parasitic on other races, and because they are small in number they must include serpentlike cleverness to enchant their multitudinous enemies. Thus Jew psy-war, etc.

    A Jew almost always wears a smile.

    The facts per above with regard to Jewish behavior results in a particularly venemous personal psychology: paranoiac, hostile, and predatory…always hidden by a smile.

    Our task is to rip the veil from the Jew, wipe the grin off his face, and expose him to , among other things, the idiot Protestants and some Catholics who think they are just swell.

    Ours is a fight , if not to the death, then to complete separation. Let the Blacks lie down with the Jews in some other place than in our racial homelands.

  37. Jeannon Kralj's Gravatar Jeannon Kralj
    January 19, 2012 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

    No, Richard, my comment was not directed at anyone in particular. It is just that I know and you know that Jesus is not respecter of persons and is no respector of skin color. It’s about “who do you say that I am?”

    I heard Pat Buchanan with Mr. Arroyo on EWTN a few days ago going over his pros and cons of all the Republican candidates. It sort of turned me off big time though I do respect some of his opinions. I am afraid he is trying desperately to hold on to his job at one of the big TV networks and therefore he has sold his soul for Jewish media rock and roll. He said lots of nice thinks about Ron Paul but one of the things he disagrees with him, and I do too, is that people of the same ethnicity or religion ought to be able to live together (like the Amish, etc, and the old Polish, Italian, and Irish areas of the old large northeast urban centers etc) and have their interests and rights protected under the Consitution just as any other Americans. Now many of the old Catholic enclaves were “White” but in Europe where they all came from, they were all “White” and the term “white” as defining themselves was not even in their thoughts much less their vocabulary. They only decided defining themselves as “Whites” when the African Americans were herded up North for Louis Wirth’s and Seargeant Schrivers “urban renewal scams”. They started seeing all this in terms of “White” versus “Black” and that is just what the Jewish social engineers desired and planned.

    Richard, I hope and pray you find Christ. In fact I pray that each of us find Christ and hold fast to him the rest of our days and that we all see each other on the right side of the next world. “Racial Mixing” and busting up ethnic/religio communtities is the stock and trade of those we speak out against here. I think that each one of us possibly might have a better shot at heaven if we did not have the hurdle of trying to overcome great cultural differences in our relationships, but Christ can make it easy for us no matter what our relationships are. We just need to hang out with those who love Christ too.
    A little present for those who want to know more about the bible.
    Where Did The Bible Come From? Part I

    Where Did The Bible Come From? Part II

    Where Did The Bible Come From? Part III

  38. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2012 - 12:19 pm | Permalink

    @Jeannon Kralj:

    True Christianity is not exclusively “White.” Period!

    People should mainly stick together and live together in communities because of true faith in Jesus Christ.

    There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galations 3:28

    Is your comment directed at me, or my comment above?

    I never said Christianity is exclusively White.

    People should mainly stick together and live together in communities because of true faith in Jesus Christ.

    Maybe you are right, maybe not.

    Regarding the Galations quote attributed to Paul:

    For starters, Paul (the main writer of the New Testament) is not Jesus Christ. Maybe some (or all) of his writings are God-breathed or inspired by the Holy Spirit. I do not belong to any denomination, so I’m not sure about that kind of stuff. (I’m not trying to weaken anybody’s faith in the epistles. I’m sort of new to Christianity, and I’m trying my best to be an honest Christian and search for the truth.)

    I want to be clear: I don’t hate non-White individuals or groups or non-Christians, and I’ve expressed that several times here on this site.

    Non-Whites are free to be Christian.

    I would love to live in White Christian nation, and that is a beautiful thought. It’s not a hatred of other groups. It’s just the purest love in my heart.

  39. Crystal's Gravatar Crystal
    January 19, 2012 - 11:53 am | Permalink

    @Richard: I had the same thought, too!

  40. omop's Gravatar omop
    January 19, 2012 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    Dr. Mcdonald’s comment about the Jews not “seeing themselves” as white is in line with the following excerpt;…….

    The Jewish sense of alienation from, and abiding distrust of, non-Jews is also manifest in a remarkable essay published in 2002 in the Forward, the prominent Jewish community weekly.

    Entitled “We’re Right, the Whole World’s Wrong,” it is written by Rabbi Dov Fischer, an attorney and a member of the Jewish Community Relations Committee of the Jewish Federation of Los Angeles. Rabbi Fischer is also national vice president of the Zionist Organization of America. And this piece did not appear in some marginal periodical, but rather in what is perhaps the most literate and thoughtful Jewish weekly in America, and certainly one of the most influential.

    In his essay, Rabbi Fischer tells readers: “If we Jews are anything, we are a people of history … Our history provides the strength to know that we can be right and the whole world wrong.” He goes on:

    “We were right, and the whole world was wrong. The Crusades. The blood libels and the Talmud burnings in England and France, leading those nations to expel Jews for centuries. The Spanish and Portuguese Inquisition. The Holocaust. Each time, Europe stood by silently — or actively participated in murdering us — and we alone were right, and the whole world was wrong.

    “Today, once again, WE ALONE ARE RIGHT and the whole world is wrong. The Arabs, the Russians, the Africans, the Vatican proffer their aggregated insights into and accumulated knowledge of the ethics of massacre. And the Europeans. Although we appreciate the half-century of West European democracy more than we appreciated the prior millennia of European brutality, we recognize who they are, what they have done — and what’s what. …

    “We remember that the food they [Europeans] eat is grown from soil FERTILIZED BY 2000 YEARS OF JEWISH BLOOD they have sprinkled onto it. Atavistic Jew-hatred lingers in the air into which the ashes rose from the crematoria… Yes, once again, we are right and the whole world is wrong. It doesn’t change a thing, but after 25 centuries it’s nice to know.”

    Time and again in history, Jews have wielded great power to further group interests that are separate from, and often contrary to, those of the non-Jewish populations among whom they live. This creates an inherently unjust and unstable situation that all too often has ended tragically in violent conflict between Jews and non-Jews.

    In our age, the seemingly intractable Middle East conflict is more than just a problem of Zionism or politics, or a dispute over land. Israel’s often arrogant policies, and especially its inhumane treatment of non-Jews, have roots in centuries-old attitudes that are laid out in ancient Jewish religious writings.

    In dog-english…..were above all of you sons o beet*^es.

  41. Jeannon Kralj's Gravatar Jeannon Kralj
    January 19, 2012 - 10:58 am | Permalink

    True Christianity is not exclusively “White.” Period!

    People should mainly stick together and live together in communities because of true faith in Jesus Christ.

    There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galations 3:28

  42. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 19, 2012 - 9:59 am | Permalink


    I don’t know enough about Calvinism to have a strong opinion either way.

    I’ve come to realize there is so much I don’t know about Christianity and Christian denominations. It’s like that classic realization that people talk about: the more a person learns, the more he realizes how much he doesn’t know.

    As of now, I’m not really a member of any denomination or physical church. Although I do love the idea of being a part of some kind of physical Christian community. That sounds like heaven to me; a community of true believers, seeking to grow in truth and love and a desire to bring about God’s kingdom here on Earth. I often have beautiful thoughts about a White Christian nation, where everyone truly loves God and each other. That’s my idea of heaven — a community of beautiful White people serving God, always joyful and peaceful, expressing their love in many different beautiful ways.

    Have a good day, Adeimantus.

  43. Jeannon Kralj's Gravatar Jeannon Kralj
    January 19, 2012 - 8:33 am | Permalink

    I’m with you, Fenria.

    I would say however that all capitalism is predatory, not just the [Ron Paul, Mitt Romney] Ayn Rand kind. Capitalism is state-sponsored usury. Chistians need to read up on usury. It destroys and kills just like Romney’s Bain Capital destructive killing ways.

    “totally jewish way of thinking that it’s ok to trample traditions and your own people in the process as long as there’s money to be made. ”
    Very true. Racial mixing and busing up ethnic/religion communities is their stock and trade. Speaking of trade, will closely paraphrase Dr. E. Michael Jones…
    Free trade “means enmeshing the nations of the world into larger and larger trading blocs, which destroys the economies of both advanced nations like the U.S. and poor countries like Nicaragua, sending good-paying jobs to Third World countries and millions of impoverished farmers to el Norte as their traditional way of life gets destroyed in the globalization process. Anyone who objects to this process on a nationalistic or religious basis, whether from Islamic, Catholic, or Orthodox principles is, to the devout Catholic Senator Rick Santorum [and “serious Christian” Romney NOT and Ron Paul who says Republicans should not criticize Romney’s conservative free-market principles [see http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/10/paul-backs-romneys-record-bain/ , an enemy of this country and must be destroyed.”
    Just for the record. Mormonism is not Christian by any definition and no matter how conservative and moral one may think them, they are not going to end up in the right place because they have consciously rejected Christ. Rick Santorum is not a true Roman Catholic and no matter how much he touts that label, he is totally in the clutches of the American Enterprise Institute and neocons of that ilk. As for Ron Paul, who knows what his religion is. I guess it is some generic Protestant / Freemasonic style brand of American Protestantism.

    Our constitutional republic is a thing of the past. The right thing to do is not vote in the presidential election. Christians are not about choosing the lesser of evils. It is all such a manipulated farce. The whole thing is owned and operated by one owner and we know who that is.
    Best we can do not is try to expose their evil deeds and seek and speak as much truth as possible and be not conformed to this world system.
    What I am sick of is all the “patriot” website site hosts and Internet radio shows constantly pushing Ron Paul who thinks Romney’s Bain Capital ways are fine Republican conservative free-market principles. This is what makes me want to empty my stomach.

  44. Mickey Meadows's Gravatar Mickey Meadows
    January 19, 2012 - 8:07 am | Permalink

    Re: Ram0zPaul is brilliant.

    Would I be right in saying that many/most of us discovered RamzPaul from his reply to the “My Tram Experience” viral tube?
    Which just goes to show….wherever you stand on the merits of a woman going foul mouthed on a tram….it looks like it could be true that in the Youtube age, any publicity works out good publicity for a cause at the stage that ours is in.

  45. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 19, 2012 - 5:58 am | Permalink

    @Trenchant: Yes, we can all agree on Ramzpaul. Please tell everyone you know, especially younger White guys about this. Send them a video. He has so many excellent videos that if there is a small chance of anyone being open to WN or White Advocacy or just opposing White Genocide(!), they will respond to this.

  46. Armor's Gravatar Armor
    January 19, 2012 - 5:48 am | Permalink

    We’re used to people like Siegel attacking the WASPs, the trailer trash, the “racists”, the “antisemites”, the upper class, the Tea Partiers, Europe, America, the West, Hungary, Putin, Ron Paul, people who like SWPL, and so on. But in this article, he is kind enough to save our time and say straight out that he has a problem with the whiteness of White people. I think the solution isn’t more race-replacement, but ethnic separation!

  47. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 19, 2012 - 5:19 am | Permalink

    @Alfred: Your bracing comments seem like sunshine on the screen. I hope you’re right, Alfred; certainly you have history on your side—make that our side. Still, I remain somewhat leary of embracing optimism. Nothing would make me happier, however, than to be proved dead wrong about being gloomy.

  48. Jason Speaks's Gravatar Jason Speaks
    January 19, 2012 - 3:52 am | Permalink

    @A Swain: Most Jews will commonly attack Whites for the holocaust in such a way as to imply they themselves are not White. I heard a Jewish woman recently talk about how her relatives were persecuted by “white people”. They can’t have their cake and eat it too. Are they or are they not White on their own terms? Obviously, they deny race and Whiteness when it suits their ends, and a few words later assert the existence of race when it does. I am talking about the majority of Jewish activists here, not every last Jew.

  49. Bigmo's Gravatar Bigmo
    January 19, 2012 - 3:04 am | Permalink

    January 18, 2012 – 8:58 am | Permalink
    This is why it is asolutely crucial that the celebrities in the Native Born White Amerian Patriot movement to get to the heart of the issue in all of their public appearances..make race-replacement the fundamental issue..nothing else should be discussed..only one question:why should Native Born White Americans in favor of it?

    This is why I never attend any of the American Renassaince conferences…Jared Taylor wastes enormous amounts of time attempting to esatablish the intellectual inferiority of certain racial groups..including White Americans…when all he should be doing is focusing on the consequences of race-replacement for Native Born White Americans..this is the winning issue for our side.

    If movement celerites such as Jared Taylor,Peter Brimelow and Pat Buchannan raise the IQ and race issue..with 100 percent certainty..a “debate” about race-replacement will be terminated immediately replaced by a mind-numbing-the eyes-glaze over discussion about psychometirc..monumental foolishness End Quote

    Excellent comment. I agree 100%.

  50. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 19, 2012 - 2:34 am | Permalink

    What’s funny about “Hispanics” and their ethnic pride is how, at least in my experience, they really have no tangible identity that survives exposure to American life. They either adopt black victimization politics, gang culture, etc. in their own ghettos or become get mixed in with the lower rung of whites, shopping at Wal Mart, watching NASCAR, etc. They still talk about “raza”, brown pride and all that but it’s no more convincing than the 1/16 Cherokee Ward Churchill type.

  51. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    January 19, 2012 - 2:20 am | Permalink


    Art critic? Wow, just about anyone with a opinion can be one of them. Sure he offers ill informed opinion on a wide variety of subjects, but I can get the same quality from guys down at the local sports bar.

    The only difference between Siegel and the drunk down at the local bar, is that Siegel has lots of Jew money giving a otherwise flabby, florid, non-entity a platform.

  52. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 19, 2012 - 2:07 am | Permalink


    No, no, no. Whites will not do anything. Ever. They will accept their own destruction, as they did in Zimbabwe and South Africa, as they’re doing in Europe. After all the crap that Whites have put up with for five decades, what on earth makes you think they’ll suddenly start to understand what’s happening to them if the Chicago Messiah gets re-elected?

  53. Wiggy's Gravatar Wiggy
    January 19, 2012 - 2:07 am | Permalink

    I read the Huffington Post, and CBS news and a few other Liberal web media. They both seem to allow quite a bit of dissent from the moronic articles they post. People here should check out Huffington, just so you can actually argue with the few moronic liberals, if you care to. Democratic Underground will not allow any dissent, and its impossible for an honest person to ‘fake it’ over there, although my record was 35 posts or so before getting the boot.

  54. pessimist's Gravatar pessimist
    January 19, 2012 - 2:04 am | Permalink


    Cites please.

    The LA Times just did a article on the health and fitness of hispanic kids vs. white kids in two different public schools and the results were not surprising. The Hispanic kids were far less fit, watched much more Television than whites, ate fast, fatty foods, had no interest in reading. It’s so bad that the school has assigned state nutritionists to help these Hispanic families out. But have had a very difficult time of educating them about proper nutrition and fitness due to their ignorance and ethnic pride.

    And go to any dialysis clinic, especially in CA and all you will the majority of patients are fat, illiterate, diabetic Hispanics followed by Blacks and a perhaps a couple of whites. And it gets better, the doctors are routinely frustrated by the Hispanics(who often need a interpreter) who routinely eat foods that are proscribed by the doctors and nutritionists.

  55. Hasbara Matata's Gravatar Hasbara Matata
    January 19, 2012 - 2:02 am | Permalink


    Because Christianity is proxy-Judaism, Judaism for the Goyim– even if it is, as it is in Romney’s case, a newfangled sham cooked-up by the charlatan Joseph Smith.

    As healthily white bread as the Romney’s in their family photo appear, it’s useful to remember that they believe they are the Lost Tribe of Israel.

    And as much as the Jews hate Christianity, they know, deep down, that the Goyim who believe that the creator of the Universe is a Big Jew is a very useful group of fools indeed, not at all unlike the Uncle Toms of the world who naively worship the White man knowing not what’s in his heart, and not least because the Christians will someday give the Jews the persecution that their ethno-mythological ontology requires.

    Let’s also not forget that Mr. Romney recently appointed something like forty advisers, over half of whom are your typical think-tanker court Jews, before we extol him as a paragon of Whiteness at odds with a hostile elite, or before we assume that Mr. Siegel, like the rest of his Tribe, isn’t hiding an ambivalence of profound import, and that his game isn’t more complex than it appears.

    Professor McDonald gives Mr. Romney something of a pass, as he is a fellow Christian– however much he has practiced his politic and mask of disingenuousness in this regard.

    And he does so to his own peril.

  56. Clytemnestra's Gravatar Clytemnestra
    January 19, 2012 - 12:57 am | Permalink

    While I agree with Joe Webb that a Mitch Romney presidential win is undesirable to White Nationalists, I believe Obama getting a huge White vote would be equally bad as a Romney win.

    I believe history is going to repeat itself and the Neocons and their Diebold machines are going to shut out any true patriot, i.e. Ron Paul, from taking the nomination. Moreover, true Conservatives are going to be stuck with a RINO Neocon, like John McCain, that they instinctively distrust and the talk shows will, in the end, tell them they must hold their nose while voting … AGAIN. Because the Obama alternative is too terrible.

    While I cannot abide Obama and his cronies like Eric “My People” Holder, he has kept us out of war with Iran. He is getting us out of Iraq, and I think it is only a matter of time before he gets us out of Afghanistan.

    However, I think the wisest thing that White Nationalists can go for is to encourage any White who can’t stand Obama OR whatever empty suit ends up with the Republican nomination to not only vote in the 2012 elections but vote for a third party.

    Yes, that would mean the defeat of the Republican candidate and guarantee Obama another four years in the White House, but if the majority of people vote for a third party candidate, even if it is scattered among the A3P, Libertarian, and Constitutionalist Party candidates, etc., but it would send a loud message to the duopoly.


    Better for Obama to retake the White House because the largest minority of votes went to him. But it will still mean that the majority of votes did not go to him OR his tightly controlled opposition masquerading as the Republican Party.

    This is a win-win situation for White Nationalists. With a Negro face in the White House implementing the Jewish domestic agenda, it will wake up and radicalize more White people than even a President Chosenstein ever could. In the meantime, this crypto-Muslim will basically be in a position to tell AIPAC to kiss his ass and will no doubt do precisely that.

    If dissatisfied Whites can be induced to vote for NONE OF THE ABOVE – anybody but the duopoly, we will effectively see the Republicans go the way of the Whigs. That will leaven an opening for a real White party to move in.

    If that replacement can cobble together a coalition of working class Whites, protectionist Whites, anti-immigration Whites and the others, it will be a formidable party indeed.

    As the economy tanks and the money runs out for welfare entitlements, the Democrats, who are no slouches, are going to quickly snap to the fact that the coalition of freaks and losers they have put together are a liability and will be ruthless about purging them from their midst.

    This 2012 election is crucial to Whites. They need to come up behind the establishment candidates and ambush the duopoly for all they are worth.

    We need to seed the ground NOW for unhappy Whites to make this election reflect their protest against the anti-White agenda in both parties by voting third party.

  57. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 19, 2012 - 12:35 am | Permalink

    I just read Kurtagic’s review of Buchanan’s Suicide of a Superpower. It is a very good review (Alternative Right).

    Buchanan says that the loss of Faith results in the death of a nation, a culture, a people, and persons.

    But Europe much farther down the path of loss of Faith…religious faith, than the US. As I recall, about 90% of American Whites identify as Christian. In Europe that is probably around 20%. Please correct my numbers if needed.

    I recall the Stephen Daedelus (Sp?) line in Joyce’s Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (I think it was) where he responds to his Priest who is telling him what God is…Stephen : God is a shout in the street! Kids were playing in the background.

    Funny how little things stick in your mind. Anyway, Buchanan might be similarly reproached and that God is any Belief Gestalt that celebrates one’s place in a social order that too is celebrated and for which one is grateful.

    In that sense, Belief is not necessarily any particular belief, from a psychological point of view. Btw, Buchanan is certainly a great and courageous man.

    This jew, Siegel, Believes in Jews. Nowadays, secular jews, as Israel Shahak wrote in his Jewish History: Jewish Religion, have osmosed the
    Talmudic chosen people into a secular version that has no need of G-d.

    This is called Race Consciousness. All primitives call themselves The People. Ancient Greeks called barbarian any non-Greek speaker. Today, of course, Whites call themselves nothing in particular in an Age of Equality. And some of course hate Whiteness.

    So, getting back to Buchanan and Kurtagic’s able review, I would remark that Kurtagic gets a little too ecumenical in his musings on the Future, that History is always more or less wide open. I don’t think it is. K. says that we were all surprised or caught flat-footed by the Fall of the Wall in Berlin. Not so. Some could see it coming. Even Western Marxism saw it coming in its refusal of Stalinism and the totalitarian state…seen theoretically as impossible to continue. As a generic Leftie and anti-communist at the time, I was not surprised espec because I had an acquaintance who had travelled widely in Eastern Europe in the 70s and brought back stories.

    So history is not one damned thing after another, or, determined by one factor. However, it has continuity. There is nowhere to go now except to follow the breakdown of the LIberal Faith. That Faith is shared, as Kurtagic correctly points out by both political parties but he also says that the “conservative” Buchanan is also a liberal.

    I disagree. First , traditional Catholics are not liberals. They are social corporatists, and seriously religious. That means they have a point of view, a solid point of view, which is anti-liberal and anti-ecumenical. Buchanan has even broached the subject of race, and in his book a couple years ago, I forget which one, he is clearly speaking in code about race, particularly with regard to Mexers.

    However, this is just a small criticism. I think we are safe in taking our bid from biology and science and basing a new Belief in White Superiority, Accomplishment, liberality (not Lliberalism), History, sociability, and Faustian mission for a Future of More accomplishment and even better social relations than we have now because of our White Civil Wars, brought on in part by Jewish subversion, and by our own hyper-rationalism and hyper-Individualism .

    We either go down, or we go Up. There is no middle way of accomodation with our Enemies. Our Future is therefor fairly predictable. AFter the counter-revolution which if successful and we are still here, the Future is less clear, but our genes and history will guide us.

    We will have survived our White Generosity genetic tendencies and will have left Lberalism, Globalism, Libertarianism, and assorted bad ideas behind us.
    Whether belief in God will endure is not at all clear. It seems that part of such belief is rooted in Hope for a better life, a great after-life. A much better lived life with ourselves, our own race, and with a certain level of prosperity, should be enough. As an old fart, I don’t fear death in the usual sense. I just want to live long enough to see an Opening for us. I think it is coming.

  58. George's Gravatar George
    January 19, 2012 - 12:32 am | Permalink

    Those blue bloods from New England used to be the gentry here in the US.Somewhere along the line they sold out and stepped aside to let the Jews assume the helm here. Same thing happened in Great Britain- the royalty intermarried with the Jews (for their money-always for their money) and became so entangled with them that for all purposes the England’s royalty and Jewry came to have the same interests and agenda. It has always amazed me about the Jews that they can steer an agenda through centuries of time. How the hell is that even possible?

  59. Marcus's Gravatar Marcus
    January 19, 2012 - 12:22 am | Permalink

    The funny thing is how these white, blue-blooded all-Americans with impeccable WASP backgrounds and Sons of the American Revolution memberships are usually the biggest allies of the Jewish elite that so despises them.

  60. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    January 19, 2012 - 12:17 am | Permalink

    If you read about Ms Obama at FC it says she had a distinguished career as a lawyer [ yeah right neither of those
    negroes ever tried a case, let alone won one!!!]

    HERES FROM AMAZON……………………………..

    Siegel, a controversial former NewRepublic.com blogger and past Slate.com art critic, provides a fascinating look at how the Internet is reshaping the way we think about ourselves and the world. Siegel explores how the Internet affects culture and social life, particularly the psychological, emotional and social cost of high-tech solitude. Arguing that the Internet’s widespread anonymity eliminates boundaries, Siegel discusses the half-fantasy, half-realism of online personas. Internet pornography, Siegel intones, collapses public and private, transforming others into the instrument of the viewer’s will. By experiencing virtual selves rather than other individuals, a danger arises: people run the risk of being reduced to personas that other Internet users manipulate toward their own ends. Insightful and well written with convincing evidence to support Siegel’s polemic, this book is a welcome addition to the debate on the personal ramifications of living in a wired world. (Jan.)
    Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
    Acclaim for Lee Siegel

    “Mr. Siegel is a zigzagging cultural omnivore…a confrontational enthusiast… an expert demolisher of critical group-think.”
    –New York Observer

    “One of the country’s most eloquent and acid-tongued cultural critics.”
    -Deborah Solomon, New York Times

    “To read him is to be reminded of what criticism used to aspire to in terms of range, learning, high standards, and good writing and–dare one say it?–values.”
    — David Rieff

  61. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    January 19, 2012 - 12:10 am | Permalink

    YOUTUBE, Hes funny!!!

    conversation between Ron Rosenbaum and Lee Siegel, contributors to “New Threats to Freedom,” and Michael Goodwin, the New York Post.

  62. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 18, 2012 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Dear readers, please forgive this change of subject.

    I oppose Calvinism for several reasons (most especially its totally negative view of human nature), and one of them is its division of all human beings, of all races and nations, into two categories, the “Elect” and the “Reprobates.” This view of the world makes race and ethnic interests trivial side-issues of no real account.

    I find this doctrine of Calvin both exasperating and amusing.

    I once asked a Calvinist clergyman where God ends and human agency begins? He was totally silent in his inability to answer the question. You see, the Calvinist view has “God” as a chess-player who is playing both sides of the board — playing chess against Himself.

    Calvin taught that absolutely everything that ever happens in the Universe is predestined and fore-ordained of “God” — “God” in quotes here because I’m speaking of Calvin’s idea of God. Calvin’s “God” is both the head and the tail sides of the coin. When He’s good to you, He presents Himself as “God,” and when he’s NOT good to you, he presents himself as Satan. The Universe is his chessboard and we are merely his pawns.

    Calvinists will balk at this conclusion and “deny” it, but it is demanded by Calvin’s strict logic, in which the ONLY agent and cause of events in the Universe is the omnipotent and sovereign “God.” There is no kind of free-will whatever in this theology. Everything that ever happens is “God’s will.”

  63. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I’m glad I was able to help Faith and Heritage find a few more grateful audience members. I love helping White people, and I think the “small” things like sharing useful articles are actually big things.

    Only God knows how a seemingly small pro-White thought or action can blossom into something big and beautiful.

  64. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    January 18, 2012 - 11:48 pm | Permalink

    January 18, 2012 ……….
    Conservopedia is in reaction to WIKIs left slant…


    check Elaine Supkis blog..’Culture of Life news’
    [she regularly takes on the dread NYT [if you havent seen it already]

  65. Floda's Gravatar Floda
    January 18, 2012 - 11:37 pm | Permalink

    If I were Ron Paul I’d be having conversations with Pat Buchanan about him being my running mate and I would probably have begun these meetings some time ago. I think these two decent, right thinking old timers would be unstoppable and change America forever.

  66. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    January 18, 2012 - 11:35 pm | Permalink

    ‘A great example of his self-defined exclusionary reality:
    “I’m referring to the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he [Romney] telegraphs to a certain type of voter that he is the cultural alternative to America’s first black president.”

    Note that the white candidate is the “alternative” to the black candidate’
    Please got to COTT blog and read about the HipHop genius
    and compare to what I quoted here…
    Also KMD..what about writing about KCRW and how Seymore took it over for zionist interests..
    its such a closed shop…get this


  67. 90404's Gravatar 90404
    January 18, 2012 - 11:28 pm | Permalink

    KMD…………..what about interfacing with Crimes Of The Times Blogspot? [if you dont already]…COTT wrote this up and previously wrote about a ‘Black Artist [cough] hip hop genius and how whites are so y’day’…………………………………dig boy?

  68. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 11:10 pm | Permalink

    @ Alice:
    I see that you learned that hyperlink thing fast, Alice! Bravo!

    “I understand the passion of your convictions, but I urge you to consider that underneath the brainwashing we are still related to each other and in many ways have the same sensibilities. ”
    – Not so much convictions, Alice as “observations”. I know that we are all related, with the same sensibilities, and it is really not so much despair as it is frustration that the “Elephant in the room” is not self-evident to our people. It makes me wonder, just what IS it going to take for them to realize that we are in the 59th minute of the eleventh hour?
    As was pointed out in “Less IQ than a Jew’s” first link above, this is South Africa II. And trust me, I HAVE reached out to associates (even though doing this can be dicey, what with all the Sabbats Goyim we have among us).
    Being naturally verbose, I could have condensed what I wrote to “Less IQ ” by saying that until Whites can acknowledge the reality around them, that everything taught to them is a lie and that they need to pay attention to their people, then nothing can be done with or for them. This, and the need to wrest education away from the government are the two main points. When this occurs all the rest of “less IQ’s” plan is a possibility. I don’t know how that is to be done though.
    Thanks for the link to “rowdygirls”. I am going to look it over tomorrow after I sleep.

  69. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 10:24 pm | Permalink

    I understand the passion of your convictions, but I urge you to consider that underneath the brainwashing we are still related to each other and in many ways have the same sensibilities. Rather than despair, we must learn to reach out to close associates, who may not agree with every last platform we would call for.
    Let me provide an example. This website mentions nothing about race or Jews, but in his own way, this man is reclaiming paternal authority. That may be a vital first step. It is certainly implicitly white. Can we learn to form alliances again?


  70. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 10:12 pm | Permalink

    I spent some time on Faith and Heritage and it looks very interesting. I really want to look in depth at the American history section. We all have a duty reclaim our own heritage and not permit it to be written by our opponents. Thank you so much.

  71. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 10:12 pm | Permalink

    @Vlad Writes: @Adeimantus:

    I’m glad you both found that article useful. It makes my evening to know that I’ve helped a couple fellow Christians in a “small” way. Thanks for being Christian and pro-White and for coming here and sharing your thoughts and knowledge.

    Take care.

  72. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 9:41 pm | Permalink

    @ Trenchant:
    “Anyone familiar with the grubby origins of copyright (Statute of Anne, 1710) knows it was always designed to control, not foster free speech.”

  73. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 9:38 pm | Permalink

    I should hasten to add that when I said “imagined differences like this such as religion” above, I mean “imagined” in the sense that this should not divide Whites against one another- that different religious outlooks are matters of interpretation in most cases and that this constitutes a difference in belief or outlook, not one of physical and genetic difference that makes us unable to live with and cooperate with one another for our mutual advancement.

  74. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 9:29 pm | Permalink

    It was hard earned knowledge. As the daughter of a WWII vet, it took me years to see that this made very little difference to them. To them, the history of Christianity is the history of Jewish persecution.

  75. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 9:28 pm | Permalink

    @ Less IQ than a Jew:

    All four of the things that White people should do, that you mention are excellent and would be necessary for us to gain ascendancy again (in effect, using the Jewish game plan) except that as William Pierce stated in one of his essays, one thing stands in our way:

    “a Gentile population that has been so thoroughly brainwashed by the media that it simply lets itself be fleeced repeatedly by these avaricious Jews without even a peep of protest lest it be accused of “anti-Semitism.”
    The Jewish boob-tube is our biggest enemy IMHO in that it acts as a kind of escape route to a make-believe world (as does the internet and computer games). This digital tool from our enemy which our people embrace alone is enough to strangle point #2 that you made; “Find ways for White racists to network and help each achieve wealth and political power.” Getting White males to stop watching Negroball and pay attention to the plight of their race instead has proven impossible for WN groups for the past 60 years.
    Your point #1 “Create a million virulent White racists with an IQ of 140″ can only be possible after point #2 has been made a reality (and also requires cooperation from White women – and only the best and brightest of them at that because this involves a eugenics program). Additionally, our women have been militarized against us by the Feminist agenda (another present from the Jews) and possibly by creating the illusion that coupling with a black and thereby producing offspring that cause her to have more in common with any passing White person than with her own offspring (genetically) is a way to absolve the guilt that has been programmed into her for being White.
    Personally, I would love nothing more than to see: “White racists to network and help each achieve wealth and political power”, but can’t even imagine it happening in reality due to the inability of Whites to unite under one banner. I never know whether to laugh or to cry when I see sites (from the Southern US, of course) promoting “Kinism”, and unity among White Southerners and crying nostalgically for their Confederate past. But they are not alone in this- Whites have traditionally looked askance at one another do to imagined differences like this such as religion (this one is a big divider), and culture which is tied in with nationality and language barriers (the last being the only one based in reality IMO). Note that the Jews overcame this by adopting “Yiddish” as a language that they all could speak and communicate to one another with across national boudaries.
    Your last point, #4 is key. Definitely the government-subsidized schools need to be eliminated. This is where our enemies have 8 hours out of every day to inculcate their marxist trash into our children’s minds. This is where most of the disinformation is instilled into them.
    Thank you for the link to the vids, especially “A Warning to the United States from South Africa (NeoSpeech Julie. With C.C”
    This is the way that the US is going now, and it is terrifying.

  76. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2012 - 9:27 pm | Permalink

    @ Admin: Great Ramzpaul videos. Thanks.

  77. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 18, 2012 - 9:07 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Exactly! Even if Siegel believes that ‘the game is up’ for White America, he still relishes the rhetoric that led to its demise and cannot let go of it. There is something positively startling about this kind of race-hatred against European Whites.

  78. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 8:38 pm | Permalink

    I have hopes of Taki making us cool.

  79. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2012 - 8:37 pm | Permalink

    @George: No surprise to me, firm believer that IP is a misnomer, and in fact is antithetical to real property.

    Anyone familiar with the grubby origins of copyright (Statute of Anne, 1710) knows it was always designed to control, not foster free speech. The controller has changed, but the game stays the same.

  80. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 8:32 pm | Permalink

    You are underestimating the sheer pleasure they take in lording it over us. It is not that much fun to be a rich. arrogant Jew without an audience. If you look at their history as they do, this is the sweetest revenge of all. It is truly a mentality and sensibility that we do not understand. They are not nice people.

  81. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 8:32 pm | Permalink

    no problem. btw, trying all this without a mouse is probably going to be hard or well nigh impossible. I suggest that you buy a mouse for your laptop if you don’t already have one. Also, I forgot to add that I believe some older PC’s and laptops may not be able to handle more than one task at a time-like having more than one webpage open at a time.
    There are some excellent web sites that give instruction on this stuff- here is a good one: http://www.lollie.com/happy/cutandpaste.html
    YouTube has some good vids on this topic too. Hope that helps!

  82. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 18, 2012 - 8:27 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: I truly appreciate the link you have provided. Sproul is a leading hardline Calvinist of our times, and, it seems to me, this doctrine, with its emphasis on universal human “depravity,” is not usually friendly to the philosophy of Racial Loyalty. According to Calvinism, all races are indeed equal in their “total depravity.” In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if mainstream Calvinism offered little defense of Whites in South Africa before the fall of that nation.

    (I am sure that there are a few Calvinists who do oppose miscegenation, just as there are some Catholics I’ve known who feel the same way. But, in the main, this is contrary to the spirit of the “doctrines of grace.”)

  83. John hearns's Gravatar John hearns
    January 18, 2012 - 8:18 pm | Permalink

    It’s good that the self chosen supremacist tribe leaves mountains of evidence of their hate for white gentiles.
    Millions of hours of print , TV, and film and it’s there on the record for all of time.

  84. Vlad Writes's Gravatar Vlad Writes
    January 18, 2012 - 8:14 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: Thank you for that link! The biblical defense of ethnonationalism is excellent.
    The main problem I have with this site is not the non believers who are sincere, or those who respectfully point out the philo-semitism that unfortunately is dominant in evangelical Christianity, but the hatred and blasphemy some show for Christianity. That is hard to take.

  85. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 7:34 pm | Permalink

    How very kind. I hope it was not too much like trying to write out instructions on how to tie a shoe! Now I have to go practice. Thanks!

  86. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 7:08 pm | Permalink

    @ Alice,

    Also, if you were wondering how I put the hyperlink (to Google) into the above paragraph, here is how it is done:
    Let us say that you are at a website that you want to link to and copy that to another website. So, you would move the cursor (the arrow that follows the mouse movements) and point it to the top of the screen and to the left, which is the internet address of the page you are on (for example, this page is http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/01/lee-siegel-the-horror-of-implicit-whiteness/?show=comments#comment-59251) and right click on it which opens a drop-down box with choices, and you click on
    “copy”. Then you can minimize that page (click on the “hypen” at the top right of the page to drop the whole page down to your toolbar IOW; “make it dissappear”). Now you can click onto Internet Explorer (or other search engine) and go to the website and page where you want to insert the hyperlink. Once found, if it were TOO for example, you would come down to this dialog box where you write your commentary and left click here which opens another drop-down box, and you click onto “paste”. That will insert the hyperlink of the webpage that you copied into the dialog box here.
    You can do the same thing to take a quotation from another webpage but the procedure is just a little different;
    LEFT click on the text you want to copy and HOLD the left button down while you move the cursor over the text you want to copy. Then, you RIGHT click that highlighted text, click on “copy” in the drop-down box and then minimize your screen for that website, use IE to go to the other website and page you want to copy the text to, then click onto the dialog box, right click with your mouse, click “paste” and insert the text like so:
    “Excellent reminder, thank you. The web is our only hope short of all out war”. That is all there is to it, and your welcome, btw.

  87. A Swain's Gravatar A Swain
    January 18, 2012 - 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Siegel the Ashkenazi is thick enough to believe that HIS whiteness is going to somehow get overlooked or be excused by his non-White pet projects particularly the Blacks when Whites fall into overall minority status and consequently lose America entirely to the invading non-White Third World.

    Such an idiot viewpoint is also held by the majority of his Ashkenazi brethren too – everywhere.

    Thank God, I’ m one of the brethren that have the intelligence to recognise the stark REALITY of the real danger that the White West is in and have subsequently engaged myself in political counteraction too.

    It is becoming increasingly obvious that the West is way out of time to turn things around and is not going to make it without taking her back five decades at least, and that can only be done by all-out internal warfare involving the use of highly toxic weapons of mass destruction.

    Personally, if it were up to me, I would sanction this.

  88. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 18, 2012 - 6:53 pm | Permalink

    @wattylersrevolt:There’s not going to be one way alone to reverse the trend. Populist approaches need not preclude intellectual ones, in any case.

  89. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    @ Alice:
    “Is it possible to protest this policy? Thanks.”

    Go to Google’s website here: https://www.google.com/
    and click onto the phrase “Tell Congress: Please don’t censor the web!”
    That will take you to another site that tells you what you can do, and allows you to “sign a petition”. And btw, you can use another search engine, but simply phrasing your questions in “PC speak” where possible (eg; use “Jewish” rather than “Jew”) will help to circumvent problems.

  90. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 18, 2012 - 6:45 pm | Permalink

    In fact, I wonder if Siegel’s piece isn’t somewhat facetious. Surely the hard evidence is not in favor of his theory. Might he simply be mocking Whites for the sake of “old times”?

  91. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I know that Google will block some websites, filter results, etc. I believe Google is largely Jewish-owned, but don’t know for certain. Thus I fully expect Google to be very PC “concerned”. So, if I am looking for the name of a particular Jew, I simply type (as an example);” is Hailee Steinfeld Jewish”, and circumvent the filter that way. Google has shut down “anti-semitic” web sites in the past. Nothing new there, but Google is concerned about this legislation (perhaps it will cost them revenue? That would certainly explain the concern of a Jewish owned franchise about legilation such as this). My concern is that we will get yet a new government agency with draconian censorship powers and find a lot of once-accessible websites now blocked or banned altogether. This has evidently already happened in Great Britain. It was only a matter of time till the heros of freedom of speech in D.C. decided to attempt the same here in the US.

  92. Hans's Gravatar Hans
    January 18, 2012 - 6:43 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Pierre, I have read this “matthew” character posting here, and I am glad you confirmed my suspicions about him. Either a Tribesman or a collaborator.

  93. Adeimantus's Gravatar Adeimantus
    January 18, 2012 - 6:40 pm | Permalink

    I do not think that Siegel’s dread of a White backlash is founded in reality. First, the election of Obama was not a “fluke.” The Republicans had ruled so poorly — the unwanted war with Iraq and the loss of jobs and wealth — that a gorilla could have run against them and won. Second, the racial attitudes of many White Americans — especially the evangelicals — have sincerely changed. Very many more Whites smile approvingly on miscegenation and inter-racial adoption — and PRACTICE it.

    So, in conclusion, this Jew, Siegel, comes close to being “paranoid.” (Not technically speaking, of course.)

  94. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 6:16 pm | Permalink

    @m: Do you advise use of another search engine? Is it possible to protest this policy? Thanks.

  95. m's Gravatar m
    January 18, 2012 - 5:25 pm | Permalink

    @George: Regarding Google and censorship. It is one thing for Google to be concerned about government interference, but Google has a policy of “warning” about “offensive results.” How long before they simply start filtering their search engine by eliminating ANY references to Jews that could be deemed “offensive?” For instance, if you search a name along with “Jew” you receive:

    Offensive Search Results :www.google.com/explanation
    We’re disturbed about these results as well. Please read our note here.

    If you recently used Google to search for the word “Jew,” you may have seen results that were very disturbing. We assure you that the views expressed by the sites in your results are not in any way endorsed by Google. We’d like to explain why you’re seeing these results when you conduct this search.

    A site’s ranking in Google’s search results relies heavily on computer algorithms using thousands of factors to calculate a page’s relevance to a given query. Sometimes subtleties of language cause anomalies to appear that cannot be predicted. A search for “Jew” brings up one such unexpected result.

    If you use Google to search for “Judaism,” “Jewish” or “Jewish people,” the results are informative and relevant. So why is a search for “Jew” different? One reason is that the word “Jew” is often used in an anti-Semitic context. Jewish organizations are more likely to use the word “Jewish” when talking about members of their faith. The word has become somewhat charged linguistically, as noted on websites devoted to Jewish topics such as these:


    Someone searching for information on Jewish people would be more likely to enter terms like “Judaism,” “Jewish people,” or “Jews” than the single word “Jew” In fact, prior to this incident, the word “Jew” only appeared about once in every 10 million search queries. Now it’s likely that the great majority of searches on Google for “Jew” are by people who have heard about this issue and want to see the results for themselves.

    The beliefs and preferences of those who work at Google, as well as the opinions of the general public, do not determine or impact our search results. Individual citizens and public interest groups do periodically urge us to remove particular links or otherwise adjust search results. Although Google reserves the right to address such requests individually, Google views the comprehensiveness of our search results as an extremely important priority. Accordingly, we do not remove a page from our search results simply because its content is unpopular or because we receive complaints concerning it. We will, however, remove pages from our results if we believe the page (or its site) violates our Webmaster Guidelines, if we believe we are required to do so by law, or at the request of the webmaster who is responsible for the page.

    We apologize for the upsetting nature of the experience you had using Google and appreciate your taking the time to inform us about it.

    The Google Team

    P.S. You may be interested in some additional information the Anti-Defamation League has posted about this issue at http://www.adl.org/rumors/google_search_rumors.asp. In addition, we call your attention to Google’s search results on this topic.

  96. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    January 18, 2012 - 5:14 pm | Permalink


    I am 100 percent certain that Emma West has never read or heard of the Bell Curve. But she was able to bring enormous attention to the race-replaement issue in England…the Emma West You Tube Video has well over 12 million hits.

  97. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 5:06 pm | Permalink


    I’m sorry, techie is not my native language. I have been learning for a long time now, but it seems to change faster than I learn.
    You have answered the question I was unable to ask correctly. Thanks!
    I am so slow I will have to print them out and follow them step by step. I think I can manage that on my desktop. Can I do it on my laptop -it doesn’t have a mouse. I am sorry for all my typos, I am not very good at editing on this comments section either.

  98. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 4:40 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    That was very kind of you, Richard. Can you instruct me on how to capture quotes from other posts and change colors and such? I’m afraid that I know very little techie, and it seems even the instructions are either written in techie or presuppose knowledge I don’t have. You seem to be very good at it. Thanks!

    Hi Mrs. Teller

    I’m not 100% sure I understand your question. When you write “posts” do you mean comments under TOO articles, like mine or yours, or do you mean something else?

    Here is how I usually copy quotes from other comments or from the article. I find the text I want to copy, and then left click with my mouse (and hold it down) and drag it across the portion I wish to copy (which sort of highlights the words) and then I right click on the highlighted portion and select “copy”. Then I just paste it into the comment box here, the place where you, me, and everyone else write our comments, by right clicking and selecting “paste”. You can also hold down the “Ctrl” button (on the keyboard) while clicking the letter “C” in order to copy text, and “Ctrl” and the letter “P” in order to paste.

    That explanation might not be clear enough or answer your actual question, but it’s a lot simpler than it looks.

    Regarding the changing of the text color; I assume you mean the links (in red) to the outside websites? I just type them in as they appear, and that’s how they show up. I don’t format them in any way. I think it needs to have the “http://” in front of the address, though, and not merely the “www” part.

    Hope that helps some.

  99. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 4:34 pm | Permalink

    I think it would make a good sociology test of how brainwashed or poisoned we are. Show subjects the video and ask what they see. When I first saw the video I viewed a triumphalist Jew humiliating us, our honor and our defeat. Rather like dragging a general through the streets of Rome. One of my sons saw Jon Stewart giving a boost to Ron Paul. Which of us is right?

  100. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Excellent reminder, thank you. The web is our only hope short of all out war.

  101. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 4:10 pm | Permalink

    That was very kind of you, Richard. Can you instruct me on how to capture quotes from other posts and change colors and such? I’m afraid that I know very little techie, and it seems even the instructions are either written in techie or presuppose knowledge I don’t have. You seem to be very good at it. Thanks!

  102. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 4:04 pm | Permalink

    From your lips to God’s ears. Do you think there is any danger of getting us into war with Iran to distract everyone and demand that we all “support the military” – as though it were we who had scorned them to begin with?. Personally I think that if they do it will snap everyone awake and it will be the end of the reign of Jews in America. But I’m just guessing.

  103. thm's Gravatar thm
    January 18, 2012 - 4:04 pm | Permalink


    I recall one NPR story where there were a lot of insightful comments, that were well ‘liked’ by other commentators (the comments were criticizing the article for pushing race mixing) a few days later i check back, comments were closed and all the very insightful criticism were deleted.

    Be great in the future to make copies of such pages before and after the non-pc comments are deleted to document NPR bias.

  104. George's Gravatar George
    January 18, 2012 - 3:34 pm | Permalink

    My comment has little to do with the content of the article here, but it does have a tangential bearing on it in a way- in that this website and others like it and the message that is put out may come to an end soon. When I first logged in today I noticed this link https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
    along with the message “Please don’t censor the web!”
    Legislation is pending in Congress to pass the “IP Act” (censor the Web). Surely everyone here knows what group is behind that legislation. I hope we won’t be saying a permanent “goodbye” to this and other sites like it, few as they are. At the very least, the content of such sites once that legislation is passed will be closely monitored.

  105. me's Gravatar me
    January 18, 2012 - 2:24 pm | Permalink

    @Joe Webb:
    I think Kev. Mac called the International Jew ‘uneven’ – some very bad research – citing the protocols of zion, with some very good verifiable ‘hate facts’ .

    As a side note, I recall reading articles on Sen. Dobb’s father’s diary that was ‘anti-semitic” (but was it true?) for pointing out that jews (as they did during the civil war) raced ahead of allied troops and tried to buy up jewelry, gold, on the cheap from panicked germans. So much for fearing the evil nazi war machine eh?

  106. Less IQ than a Jew's Gravatar Less IQ than a Jew
    January 18, 2012 - 2:20 pm | Permalink

    “Siegel hates everything White …” The liberal Jews are a hostile elite. The neocon Jews are less hostile but want to use White armies as their tools. My impression of Lee Siegel is that of a culturally Marxist, agnostic Jew who idolizes MLK and Obama. IMHO there are 4 international conspiracies: 1) Jews against non-Jews, 2) cultural Marxists against Whites who are pro-White, 3) rich against poor, and 4) lawyers against non-lawyers. Think about 3 pieces of evidence: 1) On the 9 member U.S. Supreme Court, there are 3 Jews even though Jews are no more than 3 percent of the U.S. population. 2) The billionaire Michael Bloomberg is the mayor of NYC. 3) MSM reporting covers up the prevalence of crimes by blacks, mulattos, mestizos and Moslems against White people in the U.S.A. and western Europe. What is wrong with White people? Jews control media, finance and academe – the evidence is everywhere. When you step on the boss’s toes, then the boss kicks you out the door. What should White racists do? IMHO 4 things should be done: 1) Create a million virulent White racists with an IQ of 140. 2) Find ways for White racists to network and help each achieve wealth and political power. 3) Get ideas from White racists for White solidarity, White power, White racist democracy and alerting White people who are brainwashed by cultural Marxism. 4) Eliminate government-subsidized schools wherever White people live.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwprWHgsJE A Warning to the United States from South Africa (NeoSpeech Julie. With C.C.)
    http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/ Free Speech
    Remember some words from Enoch Powell:

    She is becoming afraid to go out. Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letterbox. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies. They cannot speak English, but one word they know. ‘Racialist,’ they chant.

    Are cultural Marxists on a warpath against White people?
    What if Public Schools Were Abolished?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/science/19watson.html James D. Watson Issues Apology for Comments About Blacks
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/009040.html Watson gets the Larry Summers Prize
    Anti-racism is anti-White. White GeNOcide.

  107. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 18, 2012 - 1:58 pm | Permalink

    btw, thanks for you folks who took the time to read the responses to Siegel’s chutzpah. Pride goes before a fall, so let the bad times roll. J

  108. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 18, 2012 - 1:56 pm | Permalink

    @me: The Balfour Agreement and Henry Ford’s reasoning… had something to do probably with the US entry into WW1. However, the reasons for the war were fundamentally European Nationalisms.

    I confess I have not read The International Jew but I have read around in some of the revisionist history, like Barnes. Joe

  109. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    January 18, 2012 - 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Excellent observation, Brother Wattylersrevolt. I also have a significant degree of suspicion regarding the Jared Taylor – Peter Brimelow and Pat Buchanan wing of the so-called ‘white nationalist’ or ‘white race realist’, pro-white community or movement.

    This is unfair. Taylor knows that race replacement is the issue for whites. The problem is that whites will not resist it as long as they continue to accept the philosophy of race denial. How will you get whites to resist their own replacement if they believe “we’re all the same”. Indeed, racial egalitarianism actually demoralizes whites. It suggests that minority failure is the result of “racism” and “white supremacy”. I don’t understand how you intend to get whites to resist without Taylor’s race realism.

  110. me's Gravatar me
    January 18, 2012 - 1:36 pm | Permalink

    @Joe Webb: Joe. what about the balfour deceleration during WWI? didn’t jewish financial involvement in WWI prompt Henry Ford to edit/write the international jew?

  111. me's Gravatar me
    January 18, 2012 - 1:34 pm | Permalink

    @cecil Henry: keep in mind that the NYT and NPR for that matter, routinely prune comments to make it look like people agree.

    I recall one NPR story where there were a lot of insightful comments, that were well ‘liked’ by other commentators (the comments were criticizing the article for pushing race mixing) a few days later i check back, comments were closed and all the very insightful criticism were deleted.

  112. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 18, 2012 - 1:34 pm | Permalink

    @Luke: I think it was Thomas More who stated that one has to “rave along with the others” to succeed in politics.

    Not that the folks you name have raved along with the other idiots, but you seem to demand the Impossible. All or Nothing. If you have read Buchanan’s recent books, he has taken a racialist stand, and has gone past what the Establishment (don’t hear that word anymore) permits.

    So, now Buchanan has been sent to the corner indefinitely. What do you want anyway?

  113. cecil Henry's Gravatar cecil Henry
    January 18, 2012 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

    I cant believe the comments in the NY Times article.

    How long before they just come out and declare ‘kill all whites’ or ‘we hope white people and their culture completly disappear’ (this attitudei s around)

    Why?– because the presence of whites makes elites and non-whites alike jealous and envious. Nothing so infuritating as an envy you have difficulty hiding- hence the hate and racism racket.

  114. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 18, 2012 - 1:28 pm | Permalink

    @WP.Tepes:In brief, a vote for Repugnicans is a vote for war. A vote for Obongo, is a vote for peace, maybe, and more official hostiity toward Israel.

    A vote for A3P is fine if you want to, but returning to actually existing politics, we should realize the above remark.

    More war will certainly up the contradictions probably faster than a vote for Obongo. However, a vote for Obongo will avoid war probably, give the Arabs time to sort things out with political Islam, figure out a common front against Israel and the US. It will also let Obongo up the contradictions with regard to race.

    Neither party understands the economy. Jobs is the key for electoral success as well as good paying jobs. The economy is in a tepid recovery which would be squashed by more war, or more social spending that does not work. (Social spending that works is a good idea espec in a time when more Stimulus in needed. What that would be is beyond me, except for a state subsidy for White babies. I don’t think that would fly just yet.)

    So, war would be more dramatic, especially dropping the Big One with which Israel may brighten the day over Persia and further damage the economy.

    Globalization will continue one way or the other, and further the decline of jobs, wages, and Confidence.

    Given that the economy is always the First and Second factor in elections. we should be thinking about where the trends are. From what I have said , the economy will continue to be in trouble regardless of which party is in power.

    So, then the next question is: what are the political trends going to be, say, after another term of Obongo or the Repugnicans. I will post an email that I did a day or two ago in this regard. J

  115. Joe Webb's Gravatar Joe Webb
    January 18, 2012 - 1:10 pm | Permalink

    @Sanjay: 120 million?? Please explain.
    WW1 had no jewish content WW2 had substantial jewish content, espec if one holds the jews responsible for communism, which, with the Versailles Treaty was responsible for WW2, for the largest part. Then there are the numbers contributed by Japan…not to count for killing Whites. j

  116. Alfred's Gravatar Alfred
    January 18, 2012 - 12:45 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon: Dont worry Pierre….they already lost the game…2008 will be remembered as the year when they bled themselves by their own making….so arrogance is a terrible sin..it leads you to self destruction and nothing can stop the self inflicted tragedy that they enacted…greed was the main culprit for their defaults and posterior financial mayhem that they are bringing onto themselves ..thus they re repeating the same fate that their ancestors suffered without noticing….their scheming based upon the financial bubble that I think has ongoing for 200 years and being built slowly with new tricks to inflate their way through the dominance is now bankrupt and it lasted much much less than anyone could imagine…their grasping of the american culture and politics is coming to an end..and as RP already pointed out …it is the ECONOMY stupid…their sensible alternative would be quitely get out from the stage and go back behind the scenes …but i am sure that at this very peak(from where always the only path is down the hill as Heraclithus taught) of their selfishness they are going to keep themselves under the limelight and at the centre of the stage …which will inevitably bring their fate onto their heads…

  117. omop's Gravatar omop
    January 18, 2012 - 12:35 pm | Permalink

    All you people still do not want to accept the Siegel’s belief in being “God’s chosen race”.

    Only God’s chosen [white] can discriminate against {God’s chosen non-whites.


  118. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 12:25 pm | Permalink


    I want to clarify that my previous comment to you was written in a friendly tone.

  119. Anonymous's Gravatar Anonymous
    January 18, 2012 - 12:22 pm | Permalink

    The problem with what you are saying is that whites see no reason to resist race replacement if there are no racial differences. Whites have been convinced they are nothing special, not particularly intelligent, or beautiful, or creative. If anything, they’ve been convinced they’re particularly wicked. That is why without Taylor’s race realism whites will continue to accept replacement.

  120. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 18, 2012 - 12:17 pm | Permalink

    It is unbecoming to hide behind screen names and hurl criticism at brave men who have publicly risked professional suicide to speak on our behalf. Certainly none of them say exactly what I want them to say, but at least they speak up. Jared Taylor, Steve Sailor, Peter Brimlow and Pat Buchanan have all advanced our cause. This kind of ingratitude is unworthy of us.

  121. January 18, 2012 - 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Stopped caring what the members of the synagogue of satan had to say about anything a long time ago.

  122. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 11:58 am | Permalink


    Luke, Are you jewish (a ADL or SPLC troll perhaps)?, or a confidential informant of some government agency?

    I don’t mean to insult you, but parts of your comment are way too strident, and trolls lurking on this site and posting comments that can later be used by our enemies to malign and defame are a constant problem, that we as a community need to expose, and defend against.

    I’m not omniscient, but I’m pretty sure Luke is not a so-called troll or anything like that.

    Anyway, I like Luke’s presence on this site.

  123. Sanjay's Gravatar Sanjay
    January 18, 2012 - 11:52 am | Permalink


    You are right. Unless Whites recognize that Jews murdered 120 million Europeans from WWI to WWII, the White guilt will remain.

    Whites are on the road to complete suicide.

    But I disagree with you on Buchanan and Brimelow.

    We need a full spectrum struggle from most mainstream like Ron Paul to Pat Buchanan to Kevin Macdonald.

    I know it works.

    Always start with Ron Paul to detox them. Then direct them to Pat Buchanan and finally Kevin macdonald.

    Many times they will be shocked and repulsed, but quite a few come around to Professor Mac’s way of thinking.

  124. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    January 18, 2012 - 11:51 am | Permalink

    What I want to know is how many more American Renaissance Conferences will there be where Jared will waste time and sidettrack away from the fundamental issue of Native Born White American race-replacement with some psychometric expert blathering on about some new psychometric number crunching. Why do we need the approval of academics before we can engage in full-blown race-revolt against rce-replacement? I’n not saying that genes-phenotype don’t matter..I wouldn’t be a Native Born White American Patriot if they didn’t matter. Like myself,millions of Native Born White Americans already get it at the racial gut level..this why they have been using the safety valve of the American Frontier since the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act to flee the high fertility post-1965 nonwhites.

    Why does Brimelow post Sailer on vdare.com?..90 percent of what Sailer writes is irrelevant to the race-replacement issue…its nonstop policy wonk stuff about somes new study on genes…IQs of black NBA point guards versus black NBA forwards? I mean, its nonesense.

    Native Born White American Patriots must amplify the growing Native Born White American fear about racial minority status…it can be done with dramatic results.

    Jared Taylor and Pat Buchannan should have done this in their new books. Jared Taylor should tone down the “clever” debating tactic approach, and be in-your-face-pugilistic with the race-replacement enthusiasts..Buchannan advocated the Brimelowian immigration time-out strategy..which is just another form-policy of White race-replacement.

    Have a look at my comments over at Alternative Right in Spencers “Even his White Sleeves” post….I listed the type of questions that the celebrties in the Native Born White American Patriot Movement should be asking the race-replacement enthusiasts in debate.

    I declare that Steve Sailer is irrelevant.

  125. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 18, 2012 - 11:46 am | Permalink

    @Alice Teller:

    I found a great pro-White website similar to TOO, but with more emphasis on Christianity’s role in our past, present, and future.

    It’s called Faith and Heritage (http://faithandheritage.com)

    In case you or anyone else is interested, here is a link to an article that I found enjoyable, something to give y’all an idea of what the site is about: http://faithandheritage.com/2011/12/a-response-to-r-c-sproul-jr-is-interracial-marriage-a-sin/

    Have a good day, all.

  126. WP.Tepes's Gravatar WP.Tepes
    January 18, 2012 - 11:11 am | Permalink

    To All,

    I would like to recommend that all of you join me in voting for the American Third Position (A3P) Party if this choice is available to you on your November ballot.


    This recommendation is based on the following rationale:

    1. Assuming Romney, or Newt Gingrich, or Rick Santorum, is the GOP candidate, voting either for the GOP or Obama will not change the direction this country is headed (over the precipice) – however, not voting for the GOP and letting Obama go on to wreck America with another term will be the best way to force the fence-sitters among your friends, family, and neighbors to have to choose WHAT LEGACY that they want to leave to their grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Then will be the time to recite our 14 word statement of purpose, and discuss what this means for our future.

    2. If a statistically large number of white Americans vote for the A3P, the jewish controlled America media may be able to ignore it, but hopefully the foreign press will not. Hopefully this will encourage the Zionist state to be even more brazen in their contempt for their failing host and protector USA, and allow us the opportunity to engage the fence-sitters in a conversation about the “Culture of Critique” sociopolitical-economy theory of our decline.

    3. With increased visibility and respectability, the A3P may become a viable third party alternative at the local, county, and state government level – hoping that the tribe will allow a third party to break into the Political-Economic-Cultural centers of power and influence on the NYC-DC-LA axis, is wishfully thinking. All of us will eventually have to face the hard facts, and decide for ourselves the path we must take.

    The single danger of this strategy is that the leadership and rank and file of the A3P MUST be able to withstand the slander, defamation, and entrapment that will surely follow a strong national showing. The Tribe and their lackeys will do everything (criminal activity included) to make the A3P marginalized following a statistically important November – so expect a sudden influx of FBI, ADL, and SPLC informants and plants, and other convicted felons recruited explicitly to discredit us, etc. – all of them ready to chat you up with bold talk of criminal activity (P.S., you are being recorded, and the government probably later claim that their informant was posing as “an Al Qeada terrorist”, the ultimate bogeyman for the docile masses.)

    The Tribe understands that in modern America, IT IS ALL ABOUT BRANDING, and they will stop at nothing to delay the inevitable awakening of white self-interest.

  127. WP.Tepes's Gravatar WP.Tepes
    January 18, 2012 - 11:06 am | Permalink


    Luke, Are you jewish (a ADL or SPLC troll perhaps)?, or a confidential informant of some government agency?

    I don’t mean to insult you, but parts of your comment are way too strident, and trolls lurking on this site and posting comments that can later be used by our enemies to malign and defame are a constant problem, that we as a community need to expose, and defend against.

  128. Luke's Gravatar Luke
    January 18, 2012 - 9:53 am | Permalink

    @wattylersrevolt: Excellent observation, Brother Wattylersrevolt. I also have a significant degree of suspicion regarding the Jared Taylor – Peter Brimelow and Pat Buchanan wing of the so-called ‘white nationalist’ or ‘white race realist’, pro-white community or movement.

    With Taylor, it’s endless harping on IQ and about black crime statistics. With Brimelow, it’s an endless amount of hair-splitting about how the GOP needs to try to dance around in vain, redrawing the congressional districts in hopes of clinging to their rapidly disappearing ability to keep winning a few elections in majority white districts, when the GOP at the national level are eagerly on board with the jews plans to genocide White Europeans and reduce them to subjugated minorities inside their own nations. News Flash for Peter: Whites who are concerned about their survival will be MUCH better off when the GOP is destroyed and rendered extinct – they have been our worse enemy. As for Buchanan, he likes to write books that panic stricken Whites will rush out to buy, to read about how dire their future and the futures for their white children are going to be when the jews and their GOP neo-con allies finally succeed in reducing them to minorities. This helps the Buchanan household increase their personal net worth, but hasn’t seemed to have any noticeable affect that could be considered positive on the thinking of the Anglo elites, most of whom are too busy licking the toes of the Cultural Marxist enemy.

    It is worth mentioning that none of the above ‘supposed pro-white’ characters will dare to mention the words ‘white racial genocide’ to describe what is going on, and neither will any of them dare to pin the tail on the kosher donkey who is behind this crime of historic proportions. If not for Kevin MacDonald and a few others who are brave enough to speak the truth on this matter, we’d all be running around like Frosty Wooldridge, and blaming Ted Kennedy for the whole mess we’re in.

    So, this poster is right. Race replacement is the key issue here. Every discussion, every forum, and every debate opportunity that arises – the policy of our hostile and enemy jewish elite power structure to deliberately, maliciously, and diabolically promote the clearly genocidal, racial and cultural dispossession of White European people – inside our own native homelands – this MUST become topic #1 and talking point #1. Force our evil enemies to defend GENOCIDE against White European people – and, since White people are as brain dead stupid and clueless as they seem to be these days, make sure that these white numbskulls are treated to a repeated explanation of the official definition of what genocide is, based on the verbatim reading of the 1947/1948 Convention on the Crime and Punishment of Genocide, specifically the contents of Articles 1, 2, 3, and followed by a reading of Article 4, which explains who can be charged under this Internationally agreed upon law.

    Meanwhile, I have said it before , and I’ll continue to repeat it: Ethnostates are the only solution that will ensure the survival of White European people. The time to begin this dialog is NOW, while Whites are still a slim majority and while our numbers are still sufficient to force our will upon our enemies. Waiting 30 or 40 more years, and being a minority – subjugated to hostile rule by non-whites who view Whites through the eyes of a parasite-host relationship and then expecting to bring this ethnostate subject up – and expecting our parasite rulers to agree to let us go peacefully – is a guaranteed recipe for rejection. At that point, bloodshed will be the only option left to White European people.

  129. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    January 18, 2012 - 9:22 am | Permalink

    @Fenria: Well said, Sir.
    Just because a picture shows a lot of White faces, it does not mean that any of them really represents White racial interests explicitly. This issue is very representative of our ongoing collective racial dilemma. In the long run, large demographic numbers will count, but short term, racially awakened Whites are the vital key to these long term consequences. We currently have large numbers of deracinated Whites, who despite their White racial genetics, are basically race denying ‘Zoglings’. To repeat, it’s not the number of Whites out there that currently counts, it’s the number of explicitly racially aware, and politically active Whites that really counts. We are currently a race without a real effective racial leadership. Support of White racial organizations like this website is a step in that direction.

  130. me's Gravatar me
    January 18, 2012 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    @Eric Hale: what is ‘anti semitic’ in the new testament? In the Talmud, Jews actually take more credit for killing christ and call the Virgin Mary a harlot and that Christ is boiling in excrement in hell. – That’s why I always have a bitter laugh when some Christian group bows the ADL’s demands and rewrites a passion play or, even more outrageously, the bible!

  131. wattylersrevolt's Gravatar wattylersrevolt
    January 18, 2012 - 8:58 am | Permalink

    This is why it is asolutely crucial that the celebrities in the Native Born White Amerian Patriot movement to get to the heart of the issue in all of their public appearances..make race-replacement the fundamental issue..nothing else should be discussed..only one question:why should Native Born White Americans in favor of it?

    This is why I never attend any of the American Renassaince conferences…Jared Taylor wastes enormous amounts of time attempting to esatablish the intellectual inferiority of certain racial groups..including White Americans…when all he should be doing is focusing on the consequences of race-replacement for Native Born White Americans..this is the winning issue for our side.

    If movement celerites such as Jared Taylor,Peter Brimelow and Pat Buchannan raise the IQ and race issue..with 100 percent certainty..a “debate” about race-replacement will be terminated immediately replaced by a mind-numbing-the eyes-glaze over discussion about psychometirc..monumental foolishness.

  132. monte's Gravatar monte
    January 18, 2012 - 4:40 am | Permalink

    As to the fabulously objective and evenhanded NEW YORK TIMES, here a refreshing little barb by old Takimick of TAKIMAG. It seems his webzine is not yet entirely in the hands of the opposition.


  133. pictorex's Gravatar pictorex
    January 18, 2012 - 3:37 am | Permalink

    It is remarkable how amid all the whining about anti-Semitism, Jews feel no compuction about insulting native Europeans. See for example this recent article in the Jerusalem post and my reply (comment by Pictorex)

  134. anon's Gravatar anon
    January 18, 2012 - 3:30 am | Permalink

    “But the truly said aspect is that our ruling goyim elite”

    We have a Jewish elite with white (and black and brown) frontmen as camouflage. The simple proof of this is the Jewish media’s relentless anti-white racism.

    “Despite the views expressed by Jews, you would have a hard time prying them loose with a crowbar from largely White countries.”

    This is the thing.

    White people have been trying to get Jews out of our countries for millenia. Twisted Jewish gargoyles in the media relentlessly screech out their hatred for White people and how much they despise living among us – and yet they won’t leave us alone – why?

    Because they’re a parasite and white people produce the most wealth. They hate us but their greed won’t let them leave.

  135. anon's Gravatar anon
    January 18, 2012 - 3:03 am | Permalink

    NYT: highbrow Jewish racial hatred.
    MSNBC, CNN: middlebrow Jewish racial hatred
    ABC, NBC etc: lowbrow Jewish racial hatred

  136. Barkingmad's Gravatar Barkingmad
    January 18, 2012 - 12:50 am | Permalink

    That’s a right interesting video, Bantam. They may be Mexicans, but somehow the Romney bunch south of the border don’t much resemble what we think Mexicans ought to look like.

  137. Fenria's Gravatar Fenria
    January 18, 2012 - 12:27 am | Permalink

    Don’t, for a minute, think that a slick corporate panderer like Mitt Romney speaks for all white people. I can’t stand that idiot. He represents the predatory capitalism made so popular by the jew Ayn Rand and her group of neo liberals, the Frankfurt school and the lot. Mitt Romney is just a graduate of that totally jewish way of thinking that it’s ok to trample traditions and your own people in the process as long as there’s money to be made. He kneels to mammon. He’s a corporate puppet surfing on the ever cresting wave of popular sentiment. A pure phony. A poser of epic proportions.

    I don’t care how many white kids he’s had, they’re not worth a single damn if any of them grow up to be like him, with his vulture capital business devoted to putting working class “nobodys” out of work while playing his corporate raiders game with fantasy fiat currency money that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, charging the debt to the taxpayer. It’s classic jewish “money changers” stuff.

    Mitt Romney is a classic snake oil salesman who will tell you ANYTHING he thinks you want to hear. He’s a used car salesman in the most expensive suit. Everything he and people like him do is for show. He probably isn’t actually a real person at all. They have a name for people like him: sociopath.

  138. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    January 18, 2012 - 12:09 am | Permalink

    I feel there’s less finesse to the way Team Yitzhak traditionally acquires, applies and extends its clout in a relationship with influential non-Jew players than appears on the surface.
    Whenever AIPAC snaps its fingers, congressmen can be counted to begin to resemble French poodles jumping through circus rings. Yet to ascribe their vigor to serve a technically unregistered foreign agent to mere venality will only scratch the surface .
    A fair number of these – gasp – ‘public servants’ are degenerate, treasonous perverts on whom Team Yitzhak maintains thick individual files courtesy of a vast Judaic spy network in D.C. and beyond.
    Last thing the reps need is to see them being leaked to the piss-stream media, pardon the pun.
    Though, I don’t mean to underplay the aspect of overt/covert bribery, media flattery, femme fatales (see above) or tribal plants (read: advisers) all of whom constitute a suite of influence projecting tools ultimately geared toward achieving pre-set Judaic goals.

  139. Sanjay's Gravatar Sanjay
    January 17, 2012 - 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Romney is in the pocket of Jews. All his foreign policy team members are Jews.

    I would prefer Obama a million times more than Romney.

    At least Obama will keep reminding Whites that they have lost the country.

    With Romney, Whites will lose the country and won;t even know it.

    Romney will start news wars with Iran and Christian Russia.

    White soldiers will bleed and bankrupt to death.

    Romney will bailout Jewish banks and keep looting White America.

    At least Obama will remind the white voters what is going on with banks and wars.

  140. me's Gravatar me
    January 17, 2012 - 11:26 pm | Permalink

    I knew you’d like it. I wonder if one of the two Ari Shaprios at NPR will pick up the story..or perhaps wolf blitzer or if we want something ‘edgy’ jon “stewart” can have a symposium with Tom Friedman, ‘cultural critic’ l. seigal, lawyer alan dershowitz, ‘science’ writer steve pinker, about WASP “privilege”

  141. Bantam's Gravatar Bantam
    January 17, 2012 - 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Mitt Romney’s Mexican relatives are not bad looking, either.

  142. krak's Gravatar krak
    January 17, 2012 - 9:23 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Hispanic birth rate in US is nose diving. Mexico fertility rate is same as US and dropping. Brazil’s is already under replacement level. Blax in US have huge abortion rate and hardly make replacement level. Demographic situation is slowly turning in the right direction for Whites.

  143. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 17, 2012 - 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Well said!

  144. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    January 17, 2012 - 8:07 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Yes, they certainly do. They have us psyched-out big time. That’s how they have been able to subvert us, domesticate us, and make us a captive nation, or a ‘Golem’ [proxy] as they call it.

  145. MOB's Gravatar MOB
    January 17, 2012 - 7:31 pm | Permalink
  146. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2012 - 7:28 pm | Permalink

    @Jarvis Dingle-Daden:
    Indeed. I once heard him described as best able to manage the decline.

  147. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2012 - 7:20 pm | Permalink

    I have always suspected that in some ways they know us better than we know ourselves. I am encouraged by anything that really invokes their wrath. If only we could encourage and develop the ability to ridicule that wrath. Are there any young comics on You Tube mocking Jewish arrogance?

  148. WP.Tepes's Gravatar WP.Tepes
    January 17, 2012 - 6:56 pm | Permalink


    Well said,

    The problem will always remain that the Jews have mastered the “power behind the throne” gifted intellectual/strategic advisor (i.e. Wormtongue of Rohan in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings trilogy), while simultaneously tirelessly supporting the networking and advancement of fellow chosen ones.

    This is a hard concept for us to understand, and even harder to imitate, based on our very different northern/western European cultural and social development.

    But the truly said aspect is that our ruling goyim elite, of which Romney – although outwardly white – is a prime example, will always surround themselves with Jewish advisors, sources of capital (at interest) and intellectual /cultural flatterers.

    This would even be the hidden cancer at the heart of any whites-only homeland – the temptation of easily available Jewish money and cultutral flattery is just too great for most goy leaders to resist, proud white Aryans included.

    And this is completely ignoring the temptations of the flesh that are the seductive jewesses, e.g Esther and Judith from the OT.

    This is why “The Strong Leader” principle is fundamentally failed as a basis of political organization – the Jews have long ago mastered all of the skill sets necessary to turn any goy leader against his or her own people, nation, and culture.

  149. Eric Hale's Gravatar Eric Hale
    January 17, 2012 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Serious Jews are terrified of serious Christians because of this picture: serious Christians have lots of kids. Lots of white kids who might just take some of the antisemitic remarks in the New Testament seriously one day.

  150. Trenchant's Gravatar Trenchant
    January 17, 2012 - 6:36 pm | Permalink

    S9rt of like Judaism…”. ☺

  151. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 17, 2012 - 6:24 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Every minute of every day [sigh].

  152. ps79's Gravatar ps79
    January 17, 2012 - 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Is this a case of liberal Jews vs. Ziocons? Otherwise Romney scores high in kosh-o-meter or Yarmulkometer.

    (Jon Stewart’s Yarmulkometer Readings)

  153. Jarvis Dingle-Daden's Gravatar Jarvis Dingle-Daden
    January 17, 2012 - 6:03 pm | Permalink

    But for inherent Judaic phobias vis-à-vis Caucasians in general, Lee Siegel’s discomfort with Romney would’ve been completely misplaced.
    The man is, in essence, a republican version of Al Gore. Utterly phony as a $3 bill; globalist; climate change peddling; corporate whore of a politician whose resume building stint in the MA governor’s office was about as eventful as watching a pair of fruit flies shag.
    The fact that the loopiest among zio-cons were tapped as his key advisors, alone oughta make you want to empty your stomach.
    I won’t even get into the issue of a bizarre cult he’s proud part of.
    BTW, the word Khazaria is practically stamped right there on Siegel’s forehead.

  154. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2012 - 5:46 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    Thanks, I thought it wise to check since I am traveling in a strange neighborhood where Jesuits are unreliable and white nationalist seem to think Christianity is their greatest enemy. Do you ever have the feeling that we no longer share a language or any frame of reference?

  155. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 17, 2012 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    @Alice Teller: Yes, and yes. I’ve not read any of his books, but I have seen and read many of his articles and other occasional pieces, all of which are marked by depth and clarity of thought, erudition, and eloquence.

    He is best known today less for his general philosophical and theological writings than as one of the original voices raised in indignant opposition to the Vatican II revolution. Because of the qualities listed above, Traditionalists frequently cite, draw upon, and link to his work.

  156. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2012 - 4:53 pm | Permalink

    @Pierre de Craon:
    I’m sorry to be so off topic, but are you or anyone familiar with Dietrich von Hildebrand? Do you recommend him?

  157. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 17, 2012 - 4:50 pm | Permalink


    Of course the members of the lower part of the bell curve of any race would have worse nutritional habits, but since Hispanics have an overall lower IQ than Whites, it’s just going to make a bad situation even worse. And Zeus help us if the blacks ever start outbreeding the Hispanics.

  158. Pierre de Craon's Gravatar Pierre de Craon
    January 17, 2012 - 4:32 pm | Permalink

    @Richard: If you didn’t already know that “matthew” is a Jewish infiltrator or one of the Tribe’s “righteous” goy stooges, you do now, Richard. Note, too, that he and Lee Siegel are working together to focus readers’ attention on two candidates and two alone: Obama and Romney.

    Say what they like for public consumption, Tribal bigwigs have no fear that either of these men will disobey their masters. The task that Siegel was handed, I believe, was to further divert attention from Ron Paul, who is the only candidate since the 1996 version of Buchanan to concern them. Paul, of course, is infinitely more dangerous to Jews and their interests than Pat ever was. Remember, too, that were RP to win the election and were he to ask PB to become a member of his cabinet—not at all an impossibility—Buchanan would become far more effective a disrupter of the Tribe’s scheming perfidy than he ever has been to date.

  159. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    January 17, 2012 - 4:29 pm | Permalink

    @fender: Just so you know, Hispanics have a longer life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate than whites. Also, you do realize that in an all white society those at the lower half of the bell curve would have less healthy habits as well? There will always be a group that you can exclude on the basis of their behavior- all you’re doing is using your reptilian cortex to mark them off on the basis of race.

  160. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 17, 2012 - 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I like the photo; it’s nice to see a beautiful White family.

  161. Richard's Gravatar Richard
    January 17, 2012 - 4:18 pm | Permalink


    Dr. MacDonald, in the article above and in a previous article, clearly stated his belief that Mitt Romney is probably not the ideal candidate for people with strong pro-White views.

    “I also suspect that the lack of enthusiasm Republicans have with Mitt Romney is precisely because they don’t sense that he is an implicitly White candidate but rather someone who is finding the best way to get elected and who will then carry on the dissolution of White America under the banner of the Republican Party. (And the flag of Israel…)”

    Thanks to Dr. MacDonald for this article and for all he has done for White people. I love him, and I’m sure many others feel the same.

  162. Alice Teller's Gravatar Alice Teller
    January 17, 2012 - 4:01 pm | Permalink

    @1rw: @Jim: Thanks for the mention of the commenters in the Times. They were heartening indeed.

    How soon will it be before not merely white families will be scorned, but any mono-ethnic family. Will we only be permitted candidates like Obama with African, Asian and European family members to ensure that they look like America?

  163. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 17, 2012 - 3:57 pm | Permalink


    “who has sought to assure universal healthcare for all people”

    Which means that Whites will have to par for the expenses of blacks and Hispanics who eat junk food, smoke, drink, and generally neglect their health far more than us. If we were living in an ethnically homoegenous White society, where people’s biological makeups were similar, and where people knew how to care for themselves, I’d support universal healthcare. But instead we’re being swamped by the lowest forms of humanity, so I don’t look forward to paying for their bills.

  164. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    January 17, 2012 - 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Despite the views expressed by Jews, you would have a hard time prying them loose with a crowbar from largely White countries.

  165. Junghans's Gravatar Junghans
    January 17, 2012 - 2:56 pm | Permalink

    If that disconcerting implicit ‘whiteness’ ever became stridently explicit, then the ink stained Mr. Siegel would have something to really carp about.

  166. matthew's Gravatar matthew
    January 17, 2012 - 2:56 pm | Permalink

    It’s pretty sad to see Kevin, twenty years into his idee’ fix, spewing out such dreck. All you have done is confirm Siegel’s analysis. The fact is the matter that Whites are going against their best interest by voting for Romney, a free trader, Israel firster, Corporate hack. If people here actually cared about the well being of white people, they would vote for Obama, who has sought to assure universal healthcare for all people, delayed trade agreements and implemented worker adjustment assistance, raised taxes on the super rich to pay for social programs, and held back on Israel.

  167. Dark Henry's Gravatar Dark Henry
    January 17, 2012 - 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Romney connects with a central evangelic fantasy [nothing terrifies serious Jews quite like serious Christians]

    That Jews (“serious” or not) are afraid of real Christians is true of course. It is surprising that this is stated so openly in the allegedly “fair and balanced” NYT. Or maybe not that surprising after all now that they think they have almost all under control.
    On the other hand it is hard to see how the “christian”-zionist Evangelicals, the lackeys of Jewry per excellence, may pose any trouble to the Tribe. If we had been talking about Christian Orthodoxs, Traditionalist Catholics or some variety of pre-WWII Lutherans I would agree, but ignorant judaized brainwahsed Evangelicals? No way. The Siegel types are irrational.

  168. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    January 17, 2012 - 2:09 pm | Permalink

    What is of interest about articles such as Lee Siegel’s is not what they reveal about White people but rather what they reveal about the psyche of the Jews who write them.

  169. fender's Gravatar fender
    January 17, 2012 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    I’ve seen videos of this guy. He’s typically semitic: flabby, nasal-voiced, clammy, always tossing his hands around when he talks. If we were a stronger people we’d pay no mind to these peddlers of resentment.

  170. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    January 17, 2012 - 1:49 pm | Permalink

    1rw, didn’t mean to copy…We posted about the same time and I missed your post.

  171. Jim's Gravatar Jim
    January 17, 2012 - 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Great article. It’s important to note, however, that white advocates aren’t the only ones who are put off by this stuff. Of the first hundred or so comments that I viewed on Siegel’s Romney editorial (at the NYT), almost all were negative. Here’s an excerpt from one, and it was typical:
    “Oh man….give it a rest. Still about 10 months to go and the looney left has already started with this garbage?”

    Many were also from liberals who accused him of creating racial discord. Only a few were positive, and even then, not to the specific points of his commentary.

    People like Siegel are turning out to be our greatest unwitting allies, giving white people on the sidelines a glimpse of the oppressive social and racial piety that awaits them in the future. Since liberalism/socialism is a top down ideology, the Siegels of the world pay no mind to the dissenting masses. They only care what their journalism or university professor friends think.

    A great example of his self-defined exclusionary reality:
    “I’m referring to the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he [Romney] telegraphs to a certain type of voter that he is the cultural alternative to America’s first black president.”

    Note that the white candidate is the “alternative” to the black candidate.

  172. Hedgerow's Gravatar Hedgerow
    January 17, 2012 - 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Lee Siegel’s problem with the Romney family: Why can’t they look more like West Bank settlers?

    I used to live in Las Vegas, where there is a considerable Mormon presence. Back when the Mob ran casinos, they used to like to hire Mormons, not Jews, to work in the count rooms because “Mormons don’t steal.”

  173. 1rw's Gravatar 1rw
    January 17, 2012 - 1:38 pm | Permalink

    The encouraging thing about Siegel’s article are the comments. There are over 400, and though I haven’t read all of them, the preponderance that I did read show disgust or indignation at Siegel’s attitude. People are realizing that anti racist is a code word for anti white.

    Thank you mr. Siegel for doing what no amount of WN pamphlets or Internet chatter can accomplish. Thank you for exposing the blatant hatred of the establishment for white Americans in the New York times.

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